aic-factory

[nova osprey]

idm

[lofty hedge]

lvl 2 and lvl 1 stock depot is well

low isnt it

[nova osprey]

yeah gotta upgrade them to max

[nova plover]

Hello, wanted to ask, is there a better way to increase my production? This is how it is atm

[oblique pendant]

the price of everything is actually ludicrous once you buy out the cheap things

[lofty hedge]

i spent all my bills on

stock redist

[nova osprey]

oh i should promote some more operators to level 60

[oblique pendant]

the real money sink

[trim star]

remember chat the harder your player model clips into random objects when ziplining the more optimal they are

[nova osprey]

how about the v4 side i mean

[foggy arch]

bigggg

3 artifice

[nova osprey]

the annoying part is how you have to wait for the raft to finish

i guess i might as well just buy out the progression items before buying the motorcycle

[oblique pendant]

v4 moneysink

[nova osprey]

i mean once you get the one you want, is there any use for it

[obtuse raven]

Ok, factory remodeling done, and I have 2 extra grinders to produce more complex medicine in the future

[lofty hedge]

is sending ore to wuling from v4 needed? or more like is it a needed automation

[nova osprey]

better to send bottles

and since you're still working on your PACs, im assuming you dont have metastorage transfer

[oblique pendant]

just use the metastorage transfer once u unlock it for ferrium and u should be good

[nova osprey]

it's basically an item duper

but only of products your facility can make

[foggy arch]

What if u ran out of bottles in wuling

[cold jacinth]

metastorage sends 750 per hour anyway

if you have them or not

[nova osprey]

you're transferring ferrium over for medicine in the first place no?

so like it doesn't really matter if you run out of bottles, you just hook up a bottle line to your filler

[foggy arch]

Yeah how long is process anyway

[oblique pendant]

bottles are a non issue u won't need more than 50/100 since you get the empty ones when you use them

[foggy arch]

Like the filling unit

[oblique pendant]

and using a filler for a ponctual item is kinda eeeh

[foggy arch]

2s

[oblique pendant]

just setup and tank and fill them by hand when you run out while exploring

[nova osprey]

so what are you transferring your ferrium over for then? batteries?

[oblique pendant]

medecine wdym

[nova osprey]

same??

[cedar phoenix]

do anyone kown how to make a 7 to 8 belt splitter ?
I would need one for maxing out Valley and still have about 1 belt of ferrum to give to Wuling, but idk how to do belt splitting properly like that..

[nova osprey]

i transfer my bottles over for medicine too

[exotic aurora]

Worth it to just make Valley batteries in Wuling, and use the rare Xiranite for something else?

[nova osprey]

it's the same shit less machines lmao

[foggy arch]

U don’t get back bottle bro

[short furnace]

It doesn’t matter where I place the PAC right?

[nova osprey]

when you use the botttles outside yes you do, like for the sprayer

[foggy arch]

Yeah but not in the machine to make medicine

[nova osprey]

yeah of course lol

i don't care

[foggy arch]

[round sun]

wait in valley IV, what else do I need to output other than HC battery and buck capsule A

[foggy arch]

Buck/Citrome C for max profit

[oblique pendant]

nothing those are enough to cap you out

[nova osprey]

i have two buck c for amethyst storage, and then the rest into amethyst parts

[oblique pendant]

parts shouldn't be taken into total even if they count for the theoretical

[obtuse raven]

You can just leave a splitter at the bottles to send some to bottle xiranite and disconnect it when you feel like you are auto sustainable

[oblique pendant]

since you cap them and then they're clogged

[nova osprey]

that's why you only run two buck C, so you only need to sell once every 11 hours, or make 3 buck c to only have to sell every 22 hours

if you want to leave it for a week make 4 buck c i guess

[nova osprey]

i feel like this is a bomb type situation

[round sun]

why citrome C?

[nova osprey]

citrome or buck, both sell same price, machines are the exact same. people say buck A for simplicity but you could have triple citrome A and there would be no difference

[obtuse raven]

[foggy arch]

Alternative

[nova osprey]

[fallow rover]

What do you need so many explosives for

[nova osprey]

yes

[obtuse raven]

We are blowing up the final boss with all this

[round sun]

should i purposely have buck/citrome C just to make use of my amethyst?

[nova osprey]

no they're trying to blow up all of talos II with this

[calm flower]

any clue what im missing? i have all ferrium mines as well as RDL lvl 11, but somehow still at 1040/min

[foggy arch]

Use 1>cannot perform action while in combat

[fallow rover]

More like nuking the Landbreakers and Aggelois

[foggy arch]

Missing 1,check again

[nova osprey]

turning into parts is the cheapest way to process amethyst, but you cap out in 5 hours if you put all amethyst into parts. 2 C med machines will make it so your amethyst caps out in 11 hours, and 3 will make it 22 hours

C med is more for storage, because you dont gain anything from making them. you only lose power

[jaunty epoch]

some of the outpost level added new mines so you probably forgot one

[nova osprey]

i recommend at least doing two C med factories, so you can run amethyst overnight and not have it clog

[round sun]

is buck A the best tactical

[fierce hill]

anyone got a full factory blueprint for infrastation and temp chelter

[calm flower]

i swear i must be going crazy, ive gone over all the ferrium mines several times

[foggy arch]

U can sell both C med no?

[nova osprey]

you can

depends on level actually, but yes you can

[ancient zinc]

[foggy arch]

No need to go over again just click on the mine icon on map and u’ll see which one is broken

[nova osprey]

actually wait, technically citrome c is better bc all 3 buy, infra station and reconstruction HQ dont buy buck A

[calm flower]

i mean, ive been going all over the mines using the map, and checking if all rigs are powered, but they all are????

[obtuse raven]

Not really, the best ones would be jincao drink or yayhen syringe

[foggy arch]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

[jaunty epoch]

well the max is definitely 1080 so its on your end

[quiet elm]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nxfZAGx3IZamJw7JY_2yb6RnJyWkrVQTdKYwIWyDL3Q/edit?usp=sharing From my new testing:

[calm flower]

i mean, it'll just go red and say not powered or somethign right? if one of the mines arent working

[thorn garnet]

Are engravings reusable?

[foggy arch]

Yes Or u don’t have a rig on there

[calm flower]

im going to sacrifice my first born child, i literally for the life of me cant find this one ferrium spot

[nova osprey]

they're equippables essentially, so yes. you can upgrade essences though, which consumes essences. as far as ive seen, there is no benefit to using the same exact essence on upgrading essences

[jaunty epoch]

rip child

[thorn garnet]

Niceeee. I was dreading farming them if it was a single use

[obtuse raven]

Oh, true... Well, time to change my production line

[nova osprey]

you honestly dont even need that many engraving permits, since the drop chance should be 1/40 if i calculated it right, and you get 3 per clear

[jaunty epoch]

engravings arent reusable, once you apply it to your run it gets used for that run

[untold pulsar]

[spring elm]

I just made a really long power line route

[nova osprey]

wait do you mean the engraving permit btw? or the essence themselves

[stable fulcrum]

guys, one question. Im trying to make buck capsule A, and that takes 10 steel bottles + 10 g. buckflower powder. Could someone help me understand why it says im using too much of those two? (in theoretical data)

[calm flower]

checked online, i found the spot, apparently there's a ferrium spot there.. question is how do I unlock this? (dont tell me i have to do surtr's quest)

[finite trout]

The yield doesn't match the theoretical. Sometimes the theoretical can be wrong. If you routed intermediate through depot and still have stock in depot then it can mean that Usage is being fufilled despite theoretical saying otherwise.

[obtuse raven]

It uses 10 steel bottles and 10 powder per 10s, so it will consume 60u/min of each in total

[foggy arch]

walk there, gate should be open for u

[late zodiac]

One buck capsule A farm has a theoretical intake of 60 bottles per minute. 10 every 10 seconds. you need two belts constantly feeding the machine bottles to keep it going at full speed

[nova osprey]

you're talking about theoretical yes?

[untold pulsar]

I just dedas climbed that shi and colonized that spot

[calm flower]

LMAO

[calm flower]

oh nice, it is open, back then there was a big ass gate over here. anyways, thanks!

[stable fulcrum]

yes

[stable fulcrum]

Ooh i see

[round sun]

ideally how many buck A and hc battery should I be producing per minute

[nova osprey]

taking a quick look at your setup, it looks like you just dont have enough lines going into the packaging unit

keep in mind that it takes up 10 bottles and powder every 10 seconds

each belt transfers at the rate of 1 item every 2 seconds, or 5 items every 10 seconds, which isn't enough to keep up. Your data is saying that your packaging unit is running only half of the time because right now, it's 5 per 10 seconds instead of 10 per 10 seconds

[obtuse raven]

18 of each

[late zodiac]

And the moulding machine makes one bottle per two steel every 2 seconds, so you need two belts sending steel into the moulding machine at full speed to produce bottles at full speed

Four steel refineries > two moulding machines > one packaging unit

[nova osprey]

their steel looks okay tbh, just need more bottles and powder

[late zodiac]

I just wanted to lay out the assembly line for clarity

[stable fulcrum]

only bottles in this case? i though i also had to increase g. buckflower powder

[nova osprey]

yes you need both

[reef cobalt]

Does the Power Plateau get to have its own factory? Or am I gonna have to cable this shit again all the way up the mountain?

[stable fulcrum]

im gonna try what you guys said, thanks

[nova osprey]

it has its own

[late zodiac]

I was focusing on bottles but yes you need the same amount of both

[reef cobalt]

Awesome

[stable fulcrum]

you mean filling unit?

[obtuse raven]

You will need to set up 6 grinders to produce Buck A at 100% efficiency

[late zodiac]

Sorry yes

Two belts each supplying a constant stream to the filling unit

[obtuse raven]

The only production line that I was able to make symmetrical...

[violet geyser]

thoughts? 40x21 so perfect to put on to your subpac x3. the rest of slots can be for the seeds (7)

[calm flower]

Question, Valley 4 is fully consuming 1080 ferrium per minute, but i want to transfer 1200 per hour (about 20 per minute) to wuling, will i be able to sustain it? from the looks of it, it the current data or even the theoretical data doesnt take into account the transfer rate from regional transfer.

[foggy arch]

regional 12?

if not get to regional 12 quickly for meta transfer which just dupe item out of thin air when transfering

[calm flower]

what in god's green earth

[novel nest]

metastorage transfer doesnt consume depot stock

yeah

[calm flower]

so thats what that was, saw meta transfer thing but didnt know what it was

[novel nest]

unfortunately idt theres any way to just... normally transfer stock

[cold jacinth]

meta transfer is great

[calm flower]

thanks! welp, wont be able to get it since I just got to RDL 11..

[cold jacinth]

alternatively you can sit in the dijiang and manually transfer stock

[calm flower]

thats what im actually doing right now... just once every few days i transfer several thounsands of ferrium ore from valley to wuling lmao

[foggy arch]

what if ur valley ran out

[calm flower]

we'll cross that bridge when we get there

[cold jacinth]

i produced packed origocrust in v4 and then manually transferred the amount i needed for gear to wuling for the parts

[foggy arch]

well u will still need to manually transfer ur valley stock to wuling even with meta transfer, once in a while

[cold jacinth]

by then you'll have regional 12 and metatransfer

[fallow rover]

I don't have it unlocked but how does Metatransfer work

[cold jacinth]

the exact same as regular transfer except that you don't even need to have the item

[calm flower]

will i get to regional 12 if i just max my depot levels?

[cold jacinth]

it spawns it out of thin air

and moves it into the wuling depo

same speed same amount

[foggy arch]

yeah but it will take a while for u, since u dont have resource to sell to power plant

[calm flower]

[cold jacinth]

recycling stations, traders, outposts, depots

[foggy arch]

power off one of ur farm and make B tier farm to sell

[cold jacinth]

i maxed everything for it

[fallow rover]

[craggy lava]

Is it bad I'm dreaming about streamlining my production lines (this is giving me Dyson Sphere Program levels of addiction)

Only on Chapter 1 part 3 atm LOL

[foggy arch]

just buy factorio atp

[obtuse raven]

We are all living that XD

[late zodiac]

Only bad because it might be like a month plus until they give us new production line content

[craggy lava]

Factorio doesn't have waifus

[calm flower]

As a crippling factorio addict.. I get you (i bought dyson but never played the game lmao, curse your satisfactory)

[late zodiac]

Guess we'll see though

[obtuse raven]

Satisfactory is another good one

[calm flower]

https://tenor.com/view/factorio-gif-25571484

[craggy lava]

They're both good XD

[craggy lava]

[cold jacinth]

the actual info box

[toxic mural]

uhhh why it all red.... i have enough power and made sure they are within 80m.....

[obtuse raven]

I need to try Factorio, and play Dyson Sphere because it just sitting idle in my library...

[cold jacinth]

did you connect it to something that had power

[fallow rover]

Make sure it's connected to the PAC

[toxic mural]

probably

[cold jacinth]

wait no thats wuling mb

[craggy lava]

You can make a giant fleet of spaceships to nuke your enemies

tbf I'm dead impressed about the factory options from a gacha game

Reminds me a bit of Mindustry

[lapis patio]

I’m guessing I need to make more buckflower setups if my usage rate of them is beyond my out put of them? Idk, I just feel like stockpiling buckflower bushes.

[calm flower]

I love how, people who got introduced to automation game through endfield, learning about factorio or other popular automation game. It's like having a first taste of sugar then immediately jumping to heroin.

[silent violet]

does anyone think 18 buck cap a + 12 hc valley in just core is possible?

[ancient zinc]

What’s next? Max operators?

[calm flower]

current max production is 18 per minute of each

(limited by the amount of resource nodes)

[craggy lava]

What's next? Multi-story vertical belts & belt beeders? (gonna nuke mobile performance)

[silent violet]

i know but you literally cant have enough depots even if the machines would fit

[calm flower]

oh you mean in just core

[silent violet]

ye

[calm flower]

sorry misunderstood, afaik, I dont think so?????????

the CN bro's might have found a way, idk

[obtuse raven]

Nah, I already knew about them, in any case because of my interest for those games I found about Endfild factory system. At first I thought it was just another Hack n Slash gacha game and I didn't even think about giving it a try

[foggy arch]

nope

[silent violet]

im gonna do some math and figure out see what the building coverage efficiency has to be

[toxic mural]

mk yeah one of them wasnt 80mmm took awhile too find that...

[eager totem]

Metastorage transfer is better than Regular transfer for Ferrium right? Regular was 1200 and Meta is 1500 or am I missing something

[calm flower]

we need better belts, better splitters, mergers, underground belts, belt stacking.. gdi just import factorio dlc on endfield

[lapis patio]

Sorry if I sound a bit vague on my question. I’m trying to balance out output and usage rates.

[foggy arch]

u mean like every chain recipe in core right?, no stuff like blue cube and stuff in subpac?

[silent violet]

yeah everything in core

planters, everything

only ore input

[foggy arch]

hmm

[silent violet]

the issue is going to be making use of the space away from the depot wall

[foggy arch]

#1464951236003369214
this is what im currently using with 2 extra blue cube inside

[silent violet]

wym 2 extra blue cube

[round blade]

somehow while reworking my wuling battries prod, i ended up with this design, i swear it was by accident lmao

[foggy arch]

nvm no extra cube, since the buck is 4 cube each and the main have 14

[gentle glacier]

can someone send me a legendary gear blueprint

[torn sedge]

?

[silent violet]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465878525038035118

[torn sedge]

Got a question

Content Creator RENEGADE's "Mega Base Blueprint" for V4. What do people think on it?

[round blade]

RAAH

[lofty rapids]

[foggy arch]

[ornate sorrel]

am i doubg something wrong here?

[torn sedge]

I'm asking because I'm thinking of doing a V4 Overhaul on my base

[silent violet]

bro is gonna be broke on xiranite and originite in about 15 mins

[ornate sorrel]

no component factory, double Wuling battery production

[torn sedge]

One of your inputs going into Xiranite is not 100% efficient

[hard kayak]

Maybe you forgot to have two lines coming from the shredder

[round blade]

shit i got exposed

[obtuse raven]

You end up with funny designs while trying things out

[torn sedge]

Its only funny if you want it to be funny

[round blade]

bridges suck tho

[lofty rapids]

Do they slow things down?

[round blade]

yes

they half the production

[lofty rapids]

MY OPTIMIZATION NOO

[obtuse raven]

Um?

[hard kayak]

Required for sandleaf though when feeding 3 efficently

[round blade]

they are fine to use if you are placing it on belts that have slow production(not transporting something back to back)

[cunning mortar]

I tried factorio and realized it ain't hit nearly as smooth as the aic

Wish we had more to do than endlessly be capped by ores

[torn sedge]

Hmn?

[obtuse raven]

My factory is running at 100% with bridges

[torn sedge]

wait, tell me, what do you mean by "bridges"?

[lofty rapids]

Belt bridges

[obtuse raven]

This things

[ornate sorrel]

yeah ok turns out i accidentally had one broken carbon conveyer lol

[round blade]

thats weird, a bridge only allows 1 item to pass through at a time,thats why it slows production

[torn sedge]

Oh those things

Huh?

[lofty rapids]

Are u thinking about a merger?

[torn sedge]

Time to observe my factory then

brb

[obtuse raven]

It shouldn't, the main attractive of belt bridges is that it doesn't affect the flow of the items from both belts

[round blade]

the bridge will NOT slow production if belts are like this

it would slow these however

[foggy arch]

are we deadass

[torn sedge]

sigh

[snow crown]

is it worth to put miners on all nodes or is that overkill?

[torn sedge]

this is easily solved by looking at things properly

[torn sedge]

You are expected to

[snow crown]

ight bet

[cedar crypt]

[lofty rapids]

[foggy arch]

😲

[unborn jackal]

do we know the end amount of mining beds/yield amount should be?

[round blade]

we do, and it's not enough xd

[torn sedge]

Yes

[cedar crypt]

Those ore yield

[unborn jackal]

cheers imma save this

[round blade]

@hard kayak im i mistaken?

[lofty rapids]

Ur missing 40 originium

[torn sedge]

From my observations, bridges don't interfere

[cedar crypt]

U have to level up your exploration level as well for it to be max

[obtuse raven]

If belt bridges would half the flow of the belts, this wouldn't be working at all for me

[cedar crypt]

Eh?

Really?

[torn sedge]

This is a fully tapped V4

[unborn jackal]

word I'll try and crosscheck

[cedar crypt]

Oh fk where is that

[round blade]

thats impossible why do they visibly slow things up for me ????

[unborn jackal]

ayo 560 orig ore? Wait this is even higher

[foggy arch]

"dont judge a book by its cover" or sth

[cedar crypt]

I am missing 1 bed

[torn sedge]

560 Originium, 240 Amethyst, and 1080 Ferrium is Fully Tapped V4

[cedar crypt]

[hard kayak]

The best way to understand it is to try it yourself

[cedar crypt]

Where the hell is that

[torn sedge]

Also, I'm looking at my bases

[lofty rapids]

Im like 90% sure ur mixing up mergers and bridges

[torn sedge]

and Belt Bridges do as advertised

[steep cipher]

Does anyone have a good resource for builds for the base defense

[torn sedge]

most likely you messed up when putting in Bridges with Mergers or Splitters

[cedar crypt]

Spam surge tower and the sniper looking tower

[torn sedge]

Youtube should have something. I hadn't looked yet

[round sun]

do I just craft one of buck A or canned A or should I be crafting both

[silent violet]

hmm 18 buck cap + 12 HC is probably possible, it needs to be about as space efficient as the 60/min xira overall. It will be harder to reach that though since a lot of the usable space is very far from depots...

[steep cipher]

Okay thanks

[silent violet]

oh i also forgot to add the space the aic itself takes up

[lofty rapids]

Buck is technically better for leveling bc the greedy outposts refuse to take canned until maxed

But after they're all level 4 doesnt matter

[obtuse raven]

Oh sht, maitenance warning, time to zipline around the map and collect everything

[topaz dragon]

I can’t figure out how to find good blueprint bases for the smaller bases
Like refuge camp in valley pass
Or infra-station in science park

[torn sedge]

THE FACTORY MUST GROW.

However, there will be a quick update soon. So be warned

[unkempt coral]

Hello everyone, I took the blueprint from the Internet, asks the depot unloader need to connect to the depor bus but I don't see it anywhere

[round blade]

holy shit, bridges dont slow things down??? i swear yesterday i had to scrap using bridges because of that, could it be a bug or something?

[snow crown]

is the update at 7:00 PM?

[torn sedge]

Don't see what?

[topaz dragon]

It keeps saying the planet but not for what base

[hard kayak]

Did you buy the depot bus yet?

[lofty rapids]

All outposts are the same size and layout

[torn sedge]

No idea. But I can confirm it doesn't slow anything down

[lofty rapids]

So just chuck it in the place u can max first usually

[torn sedge]

Technically speaking, the only difference is the amount of Size + Bus you buy for the different outposts

once everything is max, then you can assume uniformity

[plush steppe]

for an item that has 2 or 3 outputs per 1 input (like buckflower or sandleaf to their powder version) does having 2 output lines from the shredder actually increase the production rate at all?

[unkempt coral]

oh. i need to buy. OK, where i can buy?

[hard kayak]

Aic assistant, same place with the area expansion

[finite trout]

Man imagine if the game had fluids like Factorio that's when people would get confused

[plush steppe]

specifically like the yield stat that I would see

[torn sedge]

It doesn't increase production rate, but it increases your output rate towards belts which stops the clogging of your module

[lofty rapids]

Yes belts can only move 30 /min so if its turning 30/min into 2 outputs, itll be 60/min which needs two to ferry it out

[unkempt coral]

ok, thank you

[torn sedge]

ok, time to actually just set up this thing

[cedar crypt]

Yeah..@unborn jackal make sure to double check your mineral after upgrade exploration lv

[torn sedge]

high time for me to just totally switch over to fully utilize my V4 outposts

[plush steppe]

so an optimal sandleaf powder unit would output 90/min running at full capacity and w/ 3 belts?

[lofty rapids]

Yes

Otherwise it will clog and only give 30/min with 1 belt

[stone elm]

How

[torn sedge]

Wuling? you still need to buy the Depot upgrade

[lofty rapids]

U need the square first

[torn sedge]

then you need the square

[cedar crypt]

U need to upgrade and place the square looking depot first

[torn sedge]

to connect to rectangle

[stone elm]

i forgor that exist

[lofty rapids]

Funny thing is u can put unloaders on the square

[cedar crypt]

Seem like someone skipped tutotial

[lofty rapids]

:3 more outputs to use

[obtuse raven]

You can even put them of both sides

[rancid blaze]

how do I use megastorage? i just unlocked it

[ancient gyro]

Is Dev lv 12 reachable in Valley4?

[lofty rapids]

I managed to max out my wuling with only 3 of the rectangles by using the square

[obtuse raven]

I when I saw that, my brain jumped instantly to try to make a cross design to maximize the number of outputs I can have

[pastel mason]

hi quick question about the electric mining rig: is there an extra benefit to using the MkII version on originium/amethyst? Or is it purely made to just mine ferrium

[lofty rapids]

If ur already transferring something, u need to cancel it first, then swap over to metastorage

Its like a slider thingy

[cedar crypt]

Havent seen anyone with lv 12

[lofty rapids]

It is

Im lvl 12

[cedar crypt]

[foggy arch]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-monsters-vs-aliens-bob-meme-bob-stare-are-we-deadass-bob-meme-hd-gif-7915769545313185430

[rancid blaze]

whats the difference between that and the regular stockpile transfer?

[lofty rapids]

It uses magic and doesn't affect the place ur taking it from

[rancid blaze]

thanks

what should I transfer?

[lofty rapids]

Aka if u are maxxing out i/o in V4 for ferrium and have no ferrium, u can still transfer it even if it doesnt exist

[foggy arch]

https://tenor.com/view/paypal-30000-arknights-arknights-endfield-perlica-gif-604696076763371309

[sleek elbow]

the factory has grown

[lone sapphire]

Give factory making tips

[lofty rapids]

Only thing that really matters is ur ore input tbh, its the main rate limiter

If u divide whatever your yield is by 30 u get the number of unloaders u can use without over using it

[ancient gyro]

M

[sleek elbow]

yeah honestly most if not all of my stuff comes from the main AIC factory but i cant get more ore to justify more production of stuff like batteries and the like

[lofty rapids]

[echo portal]

Im so lost with the factory

I dont know what im doing

[inner imp]

question, anyone got a EU Wuling Base blueprint for very early? I just arrived and wanna go to sleep and get some value

[spring edge]

me too girl me too

[zealous grove]

[lofty rapids]

I got a xiranite bp

[echo portal]

Girl send help ahahaha

[spring edge]

its genuinely melting my brain but im just trying my best w the blueprints 😭 🙏

[sleek elbow]

Holy plant production

[pastel totem]

More MORE

[echo portal]

For example wtf is that 😭

[lofty rapids]

is the factory that hard? Its just a balancing game of inputs and outputs and then connecting em

[round blade]

farming inc

[echo portal]

.....

Is this bullying

[lofty rapids]

IM GENUINELY CURIOUS

[spring edge]

LMAOO

[fallow rover]

You know what sucks

Having stick drift when trying to place a blueprint

[torn sedge]

If you break it down into its base, Endfield's factory building is not hard at all

[lofty rapids]

Like i keep hearing people talk about how difficult it is but like everything is balanced so perfectly, i didnt even have to bring out any spreadsheets to min max everything

[zealous grove]

bro, enjoy game

[lofty rapids]

i enjoy factory builders

[zealous grove]

if its work, its work

[spring edge]

for me, minmaxing and optimizing stuff is difficult yeah

i can make things work but its not efficient LOL

[echo portal]

You good im probably just dumb hahaha

[short eagle]

Its not really that hard it just gets confusing trying to manage it cause of the sheer quantity in the recipes

[stone elm]

@torn sedge All fine now

[pastel totem]

[scarlet cipher]

Oh man, I'm gonna need more Wuling parts for artificing... Is there an easy way to swap over some of the production to this end without borking things if I'm doing a 1.5 battery setup with 0.5 of the xiranite just going to stash?

[torn sedge]

Endfield Factory building is not as complex or convoluted as some dedicated factory building games

[lofty rapids]

I just have 1 of my dense originium and 1 xiranite in my battery chain lead to a depot bus stash thingy so that i can just turn off the packager and when the belts clog bc the packager isnt working it auto ports the mats back to the depot for use in a gearing loop

[torn sedge]

You don't even have to think of a 2nd floor to things

nor are you even thinking of transport logistics

beyond belts

and the handful of tools like mergers, splitters, and bridges

a lot of transport logistics is handled by the system

You don't have to build train tracks

or hubs

[lofty rapids]

Imo splitters in this game are useless except for battery sushi belts

[torn sedge]

or actual vehicle transport routes

[round sun]

do I need to produce both buck A and canned A?

[lofty rapids]

No

[round sun]

if one of them, which do I produce

[torn sedge]

also, with one speed on belts, the maths are comparatively simple than dedicated games

[torn sedge]

That's player's choice

[sleek elbow]

I feel like most the difficulty just comes optimizing the limited space in the factories . Other factory/systems engineering games like factorio don't have the limited space requirements.

[torn sedge]

I prefer the Citron recipe for its HoT

[round sun]

what was your choice

ah ok

[zealous grove]

i think you prob just need battery..........

[lofty rapids]

U can produce either, buck is better early on bc outposts dont buy citron until maxed

[torn sedge]

a lot of people go for Buckflower Recipe because its simple

[lofty rapids]

They do buy buck tho

The recipes are the same

[torn sedge]

Ok folks

time to shut down the factory building for a bit

[zealous grove]

[trail mirage]

what should i do for this space

[shrewd knoll]

touch the grass

[scarlet cipher]

Wait, I think I figured it out, I stole the stash xiranite line, obviously, then stole one of the three originium powder lines to make the parts... I don't THINK it'll cause energy issues, might slow my battery stockpile production, but that's ok.

[lofty rapids]

Yep it doesnt affect ur battery

[scarlet cipher]

Wait, I might even have enough originium without stealing that line... I forgot I'm doing regional transfer on it ;P

[torn sedge]

Considering how constraint Wuling is right now

you can't really 100% efficiency things yet

[shrewd knoll]

Who is burning more than 2 wuling batteries with the current version anyway

[torn sedge]

You're better off doing the healing item

so you can trade it

[scarlet cipher]

I've got one of those going too

[lofty rapids]

U can do both

[torn sedge]

going raw Xiranite for trading is a MASSIVE NO NO

[lofty rapids]

Healing only uses ferrium, batteries use originium

[torn sedge]

(seems obvious, but it needs to be said)

[obtuse raven]

You can do a 100% battery factory + another 50% battery factory + syringe factory

[torn sedge]

actually

how long till maintenace?

[wraith vector]

Now
It's done for me

[torn sedge]

ok, good

[round blade]

3mnts ago

[torn sedge]

I got out in time

[shrewd knoll]

I just run 2 xiranite belts into a protocol stash and then split them 3 ways on the output, so if one maxes out, the other lanes gets the full amount

[torn sedge]

I had my BPs ready once they're back online

[obtuse raven]

You will not max out the generation of stock bills, but it will not max out until like a month, enough time for them to release full Wuling story (hopefully)

[wraith vector]

Also my brain isn't working and I need help
I'm trying to get those 3 white blocks into a storage unit before doing the next step
Anyone have a good idea on how to do this elegantly?

Wasting as little space as possible

[torn sedge]

?

are you going to be using the protocol as local storage?

[shrewd knoll]

why would you want to store the crushed ame anyway

[torn sedge]

or is it going into the whider depot?

wider*

[round blade]

the real question is, why building 3 of it?

[lofty rapids]

Do those turn into anything useful? Isnt cryston only for ziplines?

[wraith vector]

Yeah I feel like the correct answer is to just not store it, since the white blocks can't be used for anything else

[rapid sierra]

When making carbon powder from sandleaf is there any functional difference between burning it into carbon, then shredding it into carbon powder versus shredding it into sandleaf powder and burning it into carbon powder?

[lofty rapids]

And the bottles that have no use

[torn sedge]

cryston parts is zipline towers

[wraith vector]

Oh my, yeah I might have produced too much

Oh well

[torn sedge]

Can't use sandleaf powder to carbon, iirc

[lofty rapids]

There isnt a recipe for that yea

[rapid sierra]

You can. 3 to 2 ratio.

[lofty rapids]

did i miss a recipe??

[round blade]

what

[viral nacelle]

do you guys trade batteries with the first outpost in wuling or should I just make the syringe to trade

[rapid sierra]

Through sandleaf powder into a refiner.

[shrewd knoll]

you can carbonize most of the farm intermediaries as well

you just need to dump them into a refinery

[nova osprey]

syringe can't keep up, need batteries

[lofty rapids]

U usually just send it directly into a refiner tho

[viral nacelle]

alright guess I'm trading some batteries

[torn sedge]

Its fine. you learn. These limited use items can be done on inefficient lines until you get the amount you need and deleted

[lofty rapids]

Saves on like 50 energy that is wasted on the shredder

[wraith vector]

Yeah, I really want to at least fill my storage to the limit before stopping the production

[scarlet cipher]

Which is better to use in combat, Buck A or the Yahzi syringe?

[torn sedge]

shrug valid. I know the feeling

[shrewd knoll]

is it really a syringe, i thought it was like a spray

[round blade]

it looks like an inhaler to me

[torn sedge]

Considering that you kinda want/need the Syringe for trading, just use Buck A

[lofty rapids]

It says its a syringe but yea it doesnt look like any syringe that ive seen before

[torn sedge]

It might be an air needle type

who knows

[obtuse raven]

You need both syringe and at least 2 battery factories (1 at a 100% and another at like 50% efficiency) to keep up with the stock bill generation at Wuling

[round blade]

its literally this, but futurstic

[torn sedge]

As for Powder->Carbon, I'll have to verify it later

once the game is up

[obtuse raven]

And even with that you still will not max it out if you have the perk that generates more stock bills

[shrewd knoll]

because the other non factory recipe is an actual spray

and they call it a spray

[round blade]

its real,

[torn sedge]

but I think it adds too much complexity and footprint

and mucks up the ratios

[wraith vector]

Eh, good enough for now
I'm still in the middle of a warzone (ch1), Pelica would be angry
Wonder how many people also just ran away mid warzone and begin factorying

[viral nacelle]

think they inhale the syringe twin

[obtuse raven]

Nice freebies

[lofty rapids]

Thats an inhaler no?

Also where is this 50% number for the second battery factory coming from

[viral nacelle]

yea, but the syringe in wuling despite looking like an inhaler is a liquid meds afaik

[round blade]

well

[cloud mica]

Is there a Depo unloader building that can be like placed anywhere

[torn sedge]

No

[lofty rapids]

I think the inhaler makes sense since it uses parts(which im assuming are circuits of some sorts) and bottles? Maybe its aerosolizing the liquid

[torn sedge]

Depot Outputs are limited

[cloud mica]

Awww unlucky

[trail mirage]

finaaly done 😭

[cloud mica]

Guess no mass producing batteries like forever

[plucky plank]

i dont even understand this

[trail mirage]

which part done you understand

[viral nacelle]

your generator is probably not getting a steady flow of batteries

[obtuse raven]

You are refering to what I said? If so, basically input at half of the rate of what the machine asks (half xiranite, originium powder) so that you can have a xiranite part factory on the side

[torn sedge]

Back to making the Factory Grow?

[plucky plank]

how does it go from 0 to 3,4k again

[torn sedge]

Most likely a non-stable source of your energy source

[trail mirage]

thats how much your using

[pure egret]

blueprint didnt save properly😭

[lofty rapids]

o i just toggle one my batteries every now and then to make my parts when i need em

[pure egret]

need help setting up again

[viral nacelle]

ngl speaking of batteries, wuling putting forge of the sky cap to 2 is really limiting so far

[lofty rapids]

Im guessing it's to prevent people from going crazy, since its technically not capped by anything

[torn sedge]

?

[shrewd knoll]

its capped by the amount of water pumps you can pull otherwise

[torn sedge]

Technically speaking, the entire Wuling Region is not yet fully out

[lofty rapids]

Theres so many streams to pull water from tho

[viral nacelle]

yea, one of my forge is just making batteries and the other is for the armor disk thingy

[plucky plank]

yo guys what do i do against my sandleaf powder stacking too much in my depot

[lofty rapids]

Its practically infinite

[torn sedge]

and it would be weird for Wuling Region to only have 2 areas when V4 Region has 6 in total

[shrewd knoll]

why would you store the powder form, the throughput is horrible

you can use one depot to unload a sandleaf or 3 depots to load what it grinds into

[craggy lava]

you sniff it

[raw nest]

There is a way to reduce a usage of the originium, my aic use all od them in matter of hour or 2. Lvl 10 valley.. i tried emdgame build, but god my brain fried..

[obtuse raven]

Yeh, if we are to use the V4 AIC tree as a reference, we only progressed a third of the content

[torn sedge]

Storing Sandleaf powder is a losing proposition

[vale cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732099596980846592/1466584454117064796/image.png?ex=697d46b5&is=697bf535&hm=f22ff0311477e2c253e64acb0ce892826af738624128aa5458e53aabadd534fe&

Number gotta go up, can’t let ferrium go negative

[plucky plank]

idk i used a bp and the powder goes into the protocol stash

[torn sedge]

Ok

[viral nacelle]

remember that 1 sandleaf yields 3 dust, you can output 3 conveyor belts from it

[torn sedge]

time for me to redo my V4 stuff

[lofty rapids]

The only time u store sandleaf is if u physically cant use it anywhere else

[heavy wyvern]

i feel like im being lobotomized looking at this

[untold pulsar]

Try using other sandleaf for carbon

[shrewd knoll]

it's just not worth storing those intermediaries that has no value or less throughput value.

[lofty rapids]

I hate the factory in 3d view so much

[plucky plank]

so i just cut the belt?

[shrewd knoll]

yes

[indigo otter]

If my yeild is 1080/1080 does that mean my base will not save any ore I can transfer manually to wuling?

[plucky plank]

alright thanks

[lofty rapids]

Yes unless u have metastorage

[severe swift]

PLEASE help. why does this keep happening?

[ancient zinc]

You know this discord page is strict at their rules right?

[brave vapor]

yes, the depot will take the ore

[ancient zinc]

Unless u post this on off topic instead

[shrewd knoll]

because you move your AIC core

and it becomes farther than 80m from the nearest relay

[severe swift]

i didnt though?

[cloud mica]

How many thermal banks do you normally want assuming you are using HC batts or whatever is the highest energy output

(I just unlocked wuling region)

[untold pulsar]

Aw

[brave vapor]

splitter> place down more if i'm in the red

[shrewd knoll]

or are you just out of power? It looks close enough to link

[lofty rapids]

Is one of ur splitters facing the wrong way

[cloud mica]

So its like
Thermal T Thermal
(T being the splitter)

[lofty rapids]

Bc in wuling u only need 2

[severe swift]

wth yea,. i guess i ran oput of power? idk how though. LMAO i think cause i sold all bateries before they made more? idk

[cloud mica]

Idk i never used splitters before

I should do the tutorial for it

[severe swift]

im cooked

[shrewd knoll]

just transfer some HC batteries

[lofty rapids]

^

[shrewd knoll]

manually into them

[severe swift]

i sold thouse too XD waiting to make some

[lofty rapids]

If u let em fill before u start selling it should be fine, since it will take 33 minutes for a full thermal bank to run out a fuel

[brave vapor]

the thermal bank is one of the few machines that doesnt need a full belt feeding it, and the splitter does exactly what the name implies

[bleak copper]

i made 6/m capsule, idk if it's small enough though 30x40

[trail mirage]

too big

[bleak copper]

which part/s are big

[trail mirage]

can only fit 1 in sub

[ancient zinc]

Coz his using outpost not his main PAC

[bleak copper]

i should've said that in the first place lol

[ancient zinc]

[trail mirage]

my outpost is currently making 6 battery and buck but need 1.5 sandleaf 1 dense origin and ferr power

took way too long to make

[brave vapor]

the fun of a factory game is designing your product line, then it fails and you have to rebuild it

[misty grotto]

Anyone have a good buck capsule B farm? Mine sucks rn

[bleak copper]

most of the time me going "wait is this 2 per 2 second or 1 second" and messing up the plants lol

[trail mirage]

not to hard to build but insane to minmax

[severe swift]

check bluyeprints tab right under this

[fervent hornet]

Did some trial and error and I think I've finally found a good balance.. 18 meds+Citrome and 18 batteries per minute.. with some extra Citrome C with all the amethyst I have

[lost yarrow]

everything about the factory in this region is so scuffed

[misty grotto]

It's all wuling stuff I already have lol

[trail mirage]

whats the max amount of amethyst per m

[lost yarrow]

240

[trail mirage]

gotta fine the last 40

[bleak copper]

we need more forges lol

[lost yarrow]

this this this

and more ferrite

[bleak copper]

i think it's just region being new

very limited resources

[lost yarrow]

yeah, it just ends in an uncomfortable spot

basically everything I need for progression is in Wuling

Surtr weapon essence only drops in Wuling

gold gear needs Wuling bills and Xiranite components

[shrewd knoll]

twilight drops in valley too

[lost yarrow]

where

[bleak copper]

in valley

[shrewd knoll]

think it was the mining area

lodespring

[shrewd knoll]

I do the double factory, it looks better but I know we don't have enough ferrium yet

[hollow rose]

isnt this supposed to produce seeds infinitely?

[shrewd knoll]

mostly because you can funnel the items through the reactor crucible

[obtuse raven]

I hope this are still useful in the future

[bleak copper]

change plant with seed machine and vice versa

your seed machine needs 1 input 2 output

[lofty rapids]

I wish there was a way to zoom out further

[lost yarrow]

yeah, I was in the middle of designing a double layout because yazhen makes 2 powder, but I wouldn’t be getting ferrite quickly enough

[foggy arch]

use a 50or40x1 belt bp

[obtuse raven]

You need two planters, one connected back to the seed picking for infinite loop

[brave vapor]

i see 3 belts going out so no, 1 plant makes 2 seed, 1 seed makes 1 plant so you need to only output 2 belts else the seed picker doesnt get any plants

[mellow musk]

Wanna ask, do i need to manually gather for these milestones or can i just use a planter machine to achive it?

[brave vapor]

you can

[obtuse raven]

I still fcks my head up that in Wuling it is viceversa the planting process

[brave vapor]

some stuff cant be planted through aic, but if you want to you can do it

[foggy arch]

u can plant it in the field which is in science park and wuling city, locked behind quest

[hollow rose]

oh so i need another device?

[bleak copper]

yes

[lofty rapids]

how does this work?

[bleak copper]

game increases fov, to see the bigger bp picture

[hollow rose]

planting or seedpicking?

[trim star]

opinions

[bleak copper]

1 seed pick, 2 planting

[vale cairn]

If the battery number reads 2.4k/3.4k how many purple batteries am I burning per hour?

[brave vapor]

the factory must spagetti

[trim star]

1.1k per purple battery

[lost yarrow]

Yeah, it drops Twilight, but not ATK boost, so I have to skip

[trim star]

each battery lasts 40s

[trim star]

i love doing sims

[bleak copper]

stroke of genius, emphasis on stroke

[old ice]

wip symmetric base

[bleak copper]

wuling design ah factory lol

[halcyon radish]

she stroke on my genius till i spaghetti

[trim star]

yoooo finally someone did the thing

[normal prawn]

how much percentage recommended before you sell or buy

[trim star]

it's not about the percentage

[trim star]

it's about the actual margin you get from buying -> selling

[rancid blaze]

click the item, and check your friend prices

[hollow rose]

@bleak copper

[bleak copper]

nice

[rancid blaze]

the space between them is killing me but you got it

[hollow rose]

so just need to get a few plants and sit back and wait for the stock bills

[halcyon radish]

ain't that just the tutorial blueprint lmaoao

[hollow rose]

im planning a full on makeover once i get all the upgrades

[bleak copper]

no it's this

[halcyon radish]

good work though love to see ppl try it for themselves

[halcyon radish]

somehow even worse ewww

[rough stream]

can one full productive packager making batteries feed 5 thermal? or just 4

[willow beacon]

the default blueprints are so comically bad

yeah thanks for the 3 length conveyor for absolutely 0 reason love you for that

[bleak copper]

4,
1 battery per 10s
thermal uses 1 per 40s

[atomic river]

For blue batteries (10 ferrium parts 15 originium dust) do I do 1 ferrium 2 dust input into packager?

[halcyon radish]

i do feel like it's on purpose

[obtuse raven]

Ah, so beautiful... Still, I know that I will somehow find another excuse to remodel my factory...

[halcyon radish]

since using blueprints means you interact with the game less

[willow beacon]

the factory doesn't give them any money, they don't care if you interact with that part of the game less

[halcyon radish]

the factory is part of progression

[crude plank]

gotta maximize every possible depot unloader

[bleak copper]

factory is literally the story

[rough stream]

i just spent 30 minutes trying to get rid of 2 wasted columns in my blueprint

[atomic river]

For sc batteries do I put 2 inputs of dust and 1 ferrium parts for most packaging efficiency?

[rough stream]

also are there upgrades that make refining more productive

[halcyon radish]

no

[hard raptor]

Hello I am about to enter Wuling and wanted to optimize my stuff but I am running out of minerals and did not even touch the 3rd outpost .-. am I missing something and is there like a guide? I could list what I have if that helps I am at a loss why I keep running out ngl

[halcyon radish]

if you're running out of materials that means you're using more than you have

[brave vapor]

you can make them go faster by placing down more and let them run side by side

[pure egret]

does this look better?

[hard raptor]

I know but I don´t even use all Depos

[halcyon radish]

open your protocol management and find the reds in your theoretical yield

[crude plank]

whats the point in the spit into a stash

[pure egret]

loop?

[hard raptor]

Already did that I managed to get it where my output = input

[rough stream]

why do we need 8 compressed iron cubes to make 1 medicine

[bleak copper]

leveling up your regional developement level increases the ore mining rate, that might help

[hard raptor]

But I still have 1 empty outpost

[brave vapor]

wuling's ferrium is limited rn, the only other way is to increase region development to unlock more spots

[hard raptor]

it is at 9, close to 10

[halcyon radish]

resource gain is maxed at 11

2 more levels

[scarlet cipher]

Hah, that realization that not everything has to be a production line. I can just have a lone packaging plant to manually insert materials to make things like bombs as needed without sucking constant resources.

[brave vapor]

outside of that, if you like manual labor you can mine them yourself

[hard raptor]

I am not at wuling but don´t I have places there to build too? so I just need more xD

[halcyon radish]

need more what exactly

wuling has its own resources

not a lot but it's there

[bleak copper]

lads, i'm in debt

[hard raptor]

No I have more space to build then too so I don´t think that solves much xD

[hard raptor]

R.I.P

[halcyon radish]

i'm ngl i don't even understand what the question is

what exactly is the deficit

[atomic river]

is this the right input for sc batteries? wanna make more just wanna know if this is efficent

[cold jacinth]

you can transfer the new plants through metastorage

that's interesting

[halcyon radish]

it works but it's not efficient, needs more ferrium eventually

[cold jacinth]

even though you can't find them in v4

[atomic river]

2 dust 2 ferrium? thats all I need to know thought 2 dust 1 ferrium was fast

[cold jacinth]

or am i tweaking

[lofty rapids]

they just need to be produceable iirc and since there is technically water sources in V4, u can produce em as long as u have 1 to start out with

[hard raptor]

I have an empty outpost and space on the HUB but if I build anything there I am loosing ores so I can´t use the third outpost at all rn

[brave vapor]

1 belt moves 1 item every 2 second, so that recipe actually needs 5 input to be optimal

[bleak copper]

idk

[halcyon radish]

screenshot your ore yield

[atomic river]

would it be optimal to do 5 inputs or just make multiple

[hard raptor]

sec

[cold jacinth]

would be great if it worked like that for xiranite LMAO

[bleak copper]

i still don't know how it works, are these just freebie items?

[cold jacinth]

yea

[bleak copper]

that's funny

[atomic river]

I could do 3 from both sides of base and 2 depots and have two packagers

[brave vapor]

endfields machines are rather big and you can only build in a confined space so your better off trying to fit 5 input

[cold jacinth]

for being a good endmin and getting region development lv12

[obtuse raven]

Well, you can actually have a production line for every single useful material/item in the game while also running the selling products, but you better do the math to see how much time it would take for them to deplete the resources and what will happen first: Will the ore run out or the material max out?

[halcyon radish]

just fo all from depot unloaders

the actual pac is hella inconvenient

[brave vapor]

the most optimal way is make a line that proccess the raw ores straight to what you want, even then theres alot of room to place down, so you can just b urself

[slate minnow]

Can u upgrade main PAC or storage space. Cus i only can store 14k items

[halcyon radish]

yes

upgrade the depot by upgrading the depot nodes

[slate minnow]

Where 🤔

[slate minnow]

Ohhhhh

[brave vapor]

perhaps endfield needs more tutorial...

[lofty rapids]

i got too efficient

[steep cipher]

I am making 18/A and 18/HC a min, should I do anything with my amethyst or is this enough for lots of money

[halcyon radish]

first tutorial should be the baby shape matching game

[lofty rapids]

i have like 300k in good to sell but all my outposts are too broke to buy em

[halcyon radish]

i personally make amethyst parts to use for depot

bombs too ig

[obtuse raven]

You can use it to produce C

[halcyon radish]

also cause you need amethyst to build factory units so i never run out

[obtuse raven]

Not necessary, but you can do it

[steep cipher]

OK i will look at the options thanks

[hard raptor]

1. Outpost for Blue and Green Batteries
   2&3 Batteries & Capsules
   Rest: HUB Base

[bright wyvern]

Put of curiosity has anyone been able to get import blueprints on ps5? Everything I try, I'm never able to input the entire code.

[low obsidian]

Ok what is meta storage?

[lofty rapids]

U can transfer 1500 worth of materials to wuling at no cost to your coffers in V4

[halcyon radish]

bro

[lofty rapids]

With the more expensive materials like batteries counting as 5 worth of materials each

[halcyon radish]

you are literally yielding more than you're using

level up the region and you'll have enough

[frigid breach]

Which defense tower should I use

[brave vapor]

you spam down the tesla then figure out the enemy pattern as they slip

[craggy wedge]

what's the maximum rates for orignium/ferrium in wuling?

[unborn topaz]

just producing C with amethyst just in case. and i use extra sandleaf powder for depot

[hard raptor]

I build 1 more fac and hat to shut it ´cause I made loses xD rn I do but I still have space to build stuff. I did not know leveling up gives that much of a boost I´ll try, thanks (:

[unborn topaz]

there is always extra sandleaf

[halcyon radish]

560 originium, 1080 ferrium is the max

[woven vessel]

this looking good

just gotta get the lv 12 regional

[indigo bramble]

Ferrium is like 90 in wuling

[dull flicker]

Not me just realizing you can plug these defense towers in to make the farming faster

[scarlet cipher]

Yeah, I have some spots where I just delete a single belt or reroute to refill something like amethyst parts, but manual placement for bombs works nicely. Guess I could just turn the gearing unit on and off too

[craggy wedge]

yeah no, I get that the intent is to strongarm you into factory complexity via steel, and I'm fine with that. I want to know what the max rate for orignium is, mainly

[halcyon radish]

bro skipped past the explanation

[indigo bramble]

There’s nothing to use steel for in wuling

[craggy wedge]

batteries

[indigo bramble]

Batteries in wuling use xiranite twin

[craggy wedge]

you talking about wuling batteries?

[halcyon radish]

wuling batteries 💔💔

[craggy wedge]

I'm not

[dull flicker]

The only thing you transfer into Wuling is Ferrium cause you're hardcapped

[distant cedar]

how are folks keeping up with the fund exchange? I have each outpost in valley making buck A 6/min that uses the entire field and it isn't enough to buy the funds faster than they generate so I have to use the hub to make batteries and sell those

[dull flicker]

And its the only thing that actually makes a difference

[halcyon radish]

full field? an entire field of fully upgraded subpac?

[distant cedar]

ya

[dull flicker]

I think you need a better factory

[craggy wedge]

anyway, I'll ask it again since nobody answered: what's the maximum rate for orignium in wuling?

[halcyon radish]

gotta refine your factory

[halcyon radish]

6/min is less than half a subpac

[distant cedar]

lemme log back in and I'll show production screen

[halcyon radish]

my subpacs are 60% empty 40% production

[dull flicker]

I dont even know what to spend these bills on, its so criminal that the engraving permits in Valley arent usable for Laev weapon cause its in Wuling

[lofty rapids]

😭 wuling so broke i just realized i maxxed out production with only 1 base upgrade and unlocking depot busses

i thought i bought out everything

[woven vessel]

i guess just stock pile stuff from store

[oblique pendant]

just buy permits wdym

[dull flicker]

They dont work with Laev tho and essences for non main dps is basically pointless

[oblique pendant]

just hoard them for later

[distant cedar]

here it is, this is barely enough to keep up with funds, there has to be a better way right?

[dull flicker]

Like every new unit coming out is gonna be from Wuling

[woven vessel]

u can get decent production in wuling with no upgrades

[halcyon radish]

where is your capsule a

why are we producing

canned citrome

[woven vessel]

hipster

[dreamy zephyr]

does anyone have a blueprint for beginner (asia)? im not sure if my factory is quite optimized 😭 this is my progress so far, no blue ore yet

[distant cedar]

they're the same ?

[hidden radish]

wirr your amethyst krk

[halcyon radish]

...

[hidden radish]

kek

[shrewd knoll]

I dont think your factory is the problem

[woven vessel]

💀

[halcyon radish]

how much does canned citrome sell for in valley pass and power plateau

[shrewd knoll]

time to play pylon cable guy simulator

[atomic river]

mmm batteries for selling

[lofty rapids]

anyone else filling up random pools with liquid xiranite for the goofs

[oblique pendant]

this must be ragebait

[dreamy zephyr]

what is problem then?

[distant cedar]

they're the same recipe just different plants red vs yellow same price

[shrewd knoll]

you dont have enough mining areas powered

[dreamy zephyr]

i am genuinely new please forgive me 💔

[woven vessel]

we all are new

[shrewd knoll]

so grab those pylon cables and go cable guy simulator

[dreamy zephyr]

and i have no idea what im doing with my factory

[brave vapor]

i'm telling ya, endfield NEEDS more tutorials

[atomic river]

I wish valley 4 pylons were like wuling's

[forest thunder]

uhh, why can i only type and input 17 letters while every code i see is 21

[atomic river]

dont need to constantly fight it

[atomic river]

because they include letters too

[halcyon radish]

I'm not at my computer rn screenshot the trade options for valley pass

[indigo bramble]

filled mine with jincao
it heals you know

[brave vapor]

wuling's pylon is more comfy to use, but i like valleys pylon more, it promotes you trying to min max the cable length through knowing the route

[halcyon radish]

the greentooth device is ready to pair

[obtuse raven]

Surely they will unlock it for us to freely use it in every region after Wuling story

[forest thunder]

its the same for letters

[shrewd knoll]

But then adding those pylons to the high up ziplines are a pain

[atomic river]

ft me trying for 5 minutes to reduce cable length by .1

[indigo bramble]

clearly superior space chinese wireless technology for space china only

[small totem]

I;ve it off, then why is it still filling??

[brave vapor]

place the pylon on top, then drop down

[atomic river]

next region the pylons will just be volcanoes or something lmao

[indigo bramble]

quantity allowed off just means any number of fluids can go through it

[brave vapor]

next region they're just gonna make the machines wireless

[obtuse raven]

Surely there is some sort of overclocking system and T2 belts down the line with all this xiranite miraculous material, right?

[shrewd knoll]

most of the time, you wont find another 3x3 spot to place a big relay

[indigo bramble]

[distant cedar]

so we have the same rates 18 & 18 but it's not enough to keep up with the fund exchange when you max all three outposts, you will drain all your batteries and won't have any to fund wuling
it's important to send HC batteries over to wuling because you'll be doing the same thing there
making the syringe and selling wuling batteries

[dull flicker]

huh

[small totem]

HUH..... ughhh.... is there a way we can make some kind of switch?? like to switch between 2 containers?

[jolly notch]

Does anyone have wuling battery 12/min??

[thorn flare]

Is there a way to increase liquid flow rate in wuling ?

[indigo bramble]

not really i think

[indigo bramble]

just use more pipes

[brave vapor]

nothing in the aic factory is upgradeable outside of the depot buses and area expansion iirc

[distant cedar]

nvm ig seems like nobody has a better recipe

[obtuse raven]

Next region will insert inputs that are not whole numbers

[thorn flare]

ain't helping me tho

[dull flicker]

I keep the outposts broke permanenty

[thorn flare]

since flow rate is only 2/s

[indigo bramble]

2 pipes = 4/s, simple

[dull flicker]

if you're asking bout Wulings outpost, you cant keep them broke

[indigo bramble]

you can

[distant cedar]

you can if you send the hc battery to wuling

[sudden crow]

Tbh, should i worry if red is poping up. I do have 3 buck A now

[halcyon radish]

your batteries are getting drained? how

[thorn flare]

bro I got like 10 pump and flow rate is still 2

[indigo bramble]

you dont even have to send HC to wuling for them to stay broke

[trail mirage]

why is my bottle filling up faster than my powder when they both have 2 output

[halcyon radish]

slower output

[brave vapor]

at high enough regional development you get exactly 1080 ferrium

[indigo bramble]

have you tried using separate pipes instead of chaining them all into one pipe

[trail mirage]

whats the meta ratio?

[indigo bramble]

[shrewd knoll]

a single pipe will always be 2 per 2 seconds, so you add more parrallel pipes

[small totem]

i mean, have both items output with 1:1 ratio

[woven vessel]

why 9 batteries usage

[halcyon radish]

that's correct but your buckleaf bubble thing isn't max efficiency

[trail mirage]

yea but somehow the bottle slot is filling up faster

[sudden crow]

I'm at lvl 11, so idk if thats enough or i am missing something lol

[brave vapor]

placing down more depot doesnt make the belt faster, same goes for pipes

[trail mirage]

its not?

[small totem]

that means you're overproducing bottle, or underproducing the healin material

[dull flicker]

Sending batteries to wuling is sustainable ?

[obtuse raven]

But what do you need the higher output for? Iirc, all the machines only use half of the pipe flow

[woven vessel]

how ppl are needing more than 6 batteries

[brave vapor]

you mighr be missing a mining spot then, i got 1080

[dull flicker]

defense towers and ziplines

[severe swift]

which blueprint are you using?

[woven vessel]

own

[trail mirage]

it should be normal

[strong magnet]

Compact SC/LC battery setup, feel free to give ideas for improvement.

[small totem]

@trail mirage can you check both production rate in AIC report

if you're not making it somewhere else too that is

[indigo bramble]

idk why you have to send batteries to wuling to break even it can quite comfortably self sustain

[severe swift]

nice

[jade hare]

anyone got a LC wuling battery bp?

[dull flicker]

whats your output

[halcyon radish]

buckpowder shredding sleeping so not max efficiency

[woven vessel]

yes

[thorn flare]

so you mean doing something like that ?

[trail mirage]

wheres the 5 comming from 😭

[brave vapor]

yes.

[steep cipher]

OK i used the amethyst

[thorn flare]

that's dumb ngl

[obtuse raven]

What do you need all that water for💀 ?

[jade hare]

can i get it

[sudden crow]

yeah i found it, i miss 2

[distant cedar]

what is your question? I'm using more production than you?

[small totem]

Yeah, that miner extra yield is causing this problem

[halcyon radish]

this is 18 pack a and 18 batteries?

[brave vapor]

you cant cram more gas onto your car and make it go any faster

[indigo bramble]

im telling you its not that hard to eat wuling bills from outpost

[dull flicker]

bwo what, im not sustaining with this

[indigo bramble]

yeah idk how you're managing to not sustain lol

[sudden crow]

also, since im going to wuling next, what should i take notes of?

[trail mirage]

nvm i see the problem

[unique terrace]

Are Mark 3 mining rigs better then mark 2 for mining Origium and amythesy nodes?

[brave vapor]

no

[halcyon radish]

have fun and try stuff out before looking for blueprints

[unique terrace]

Ok good to know ty

[indigo bramble]

this is like my 3rd day selling to the outpost and i havent ran out a single day

[dull flicker]

Why do I have to run a fucking marathon to deliver Wuling depot goods , it doesnt even feel worth not using the teleporter

[trail mirage]

how do i fix 😭

[thorn flare]

but making pipes upgradable is possible tho

[vagrant badger]

whats the benefit of also making it use water instead of normally planting it

[halcyon radish]

wuling plants

[indigo bramble]

no benefit, water is to grow wuling plants

[shrewd knoll]

water is required for the recipe

[vagrant badger]

oh

[dry igloo]

Hi, is there a table of min-maxing building ratio ?

[halcyon radish]

building ratio?

[dry igloo]

Example, making a blue component

[woven vessel]

I was wandering why ppl were getting more than this for 18+18 production

And also if u need energy for turrets, why not drop them amethyst batteries?
Space is plenty

[trail mirage]

ok fixed

[dry igloo]

How many building/material to maximise production

[small totem]

Nice

[obtuse raven]

That should yield 19800 bills and the outpost at max bill efficiency generates around 16770... How are you not self sustaining?

[halcyon radish]

ehh prolly not

just blueprints

[gentle glacier]

I’m lf a self-sustaining Wuling base

[dry igloo]

Sigh, I'm trying to min-max building production

Ifs pretty hardcore tbh

[jade hare]

can i get a bp for a LC wuling battery please

[dull flicker]

idk...

[woven vessel]

U don't minmax blues

U're getting to lategame In 2 days

There's no point in minmaxing stuff that's gonna last half a day and be temporary

I only minmaxes wuling base, but that's bc I didn't do any upgrades but wanted batteries and artifacts

[halcyon radish]

you can do the math yourself to find the min

also why minmax blues

is blue gear that serious

[forest thunder]

mb, its called characters, not english person

[obtuse raven]

And how are you making them run out of bills with that amount? It should only yield you 11340/h with that

I am so confuse

[indigo bramble]

Sure hope you aren’t shipping your goods off site or something cuz idk whats going on here lol

[obtuse raven]

[indigo bramble]

Idk, but i am running out

[dry igloo]

I want the blue medic and blue battery

For the settlement upgrade

[distant cedar]

no space to craft amethyst batteries
an outpost requires the full field to setup buckA/citA to be self sufficent with seed/planting
hub uses all space to make batteries and there is a little extra room for small pipelines like misc farms/intermediate materials

[woven vessel]

Just do whatever set-up

[dry igloo]

The blue gear not important, not good

[fallow rover]

Finally got the last Depot upgrade for the Hub

[woven vessel]

I mean u're doing 18 batteries and 18 of the healing stuff for sell

What else do u make?

Like only this leaves plenty of space if u have upgrades

[fallow rover]

I really need to get RDL to lvl 11 because man running out of Ferrium is annoying

[brave vapor]

atleast the ores are permanent and you dont need to find another ore vein to mine

[fallow rover]

True

I already have the Mark 2 placed on all my ore veins in Valley 4

[distant cedar]

too bad we can't zoom out more, show me what I could do with this small pocket of space
the only free slots are 3 depot unloaders that have enough room to squeeze in some refiners

[woven vessel]

I need to go to 12 cause I'm using 1080 but didn't had cash for upgrades.
Hopefully my stash of it will last till tmr
Tho even worst case I shouldn't run out of energy

[fallow rover]

I'm at 10 currently

Only took 95+ hours

[zenith seal]

I've finally been blessed with good prices

[fallow rover]

Well on the plus side I was able to get my science park depot to max lvl

[halcyon radish]

you can't even craft green batteries you don't have enough originium

[fallow rover]

Never noticed how broken Capsule A was to sell

[woven vessel]

I'm rn making 2 batteries and 1 pill in hub

1 battery and 2 pills in side bases
(1 = device = 6 per minute)

In sub bases yes, not that much,
Got only 3-4 belts free in one of them

But then in hub I have a lot of free space and whole aic (6 outputs)

[zenith seal]

its always the standard in valley alongside HC batts.

Its so you can make use of all available resources better

[fallow rover]

But seriously they gotta remove the cap on Forges because I need more Xiranite going

[halcyon radish]

next update

maybe

[zenith seal]

cap on everything in general, lvl 2 cap on everything is sad

[distant cedar]

if you want to drag storage around in the dijang it's good

[obtuse raven]

We surely will get at least another 2 forges given that there should be 2 more tiers in the AIC tree of Wuling if it follows V4

[fallow rover]

But tbh before I started looking for some blueprint codes I just used the system blueprints

[zenith seal]

its to maximize wuling bucks but involves a periodic manual labour.

its worse than transferring ferrium due to risk of complete factory shutdown if you can't do it for wahtever reason

[brave vapor]

figuring it out yourself is always more fun than copying someone else's homework