aic-factory

[scarlet cipher]

Which area is the farm in again? I may bother to go engage with that... Just because

[sweet mantle]

Can I sell batterys?

[blazing oar]

wait I found it, I had an entire node in valley pass unbuilt but I had the relay set up and the electrical pylons, wtf was going through my head

[crude plank]

whats the absolute max items

[dreamy zephyr]

i genuinely have no idea what im doing does anyone know how to play this game

[blazing oar]

80k i believe?

[ocean cloak]

80k in depot for Valley IV
40k in depot for Wuling

[crude plank]

kk ty

[blazing oar]

ahhhhhhh finalllly

this has fixed every issue I had

[scarlet cipher]

And wow, I still have 240 Ferrium to use... How much does it take to make Buck Cap A again?

[crystal herald]

change to buck A as soon as you get sand leaf

[wild canopy]

Science Park

[scarlet cipher]

Maybe I just do a low output Buck...

[rare cobalt]

alright im getting somewhere

[dreamy zephyr]

what does stash do? back to inventory? or like trash permanently?

[rare cobalt]

inventory

into the PAC i believe

depot

[nova osprey]

wait apparently if you get stuck in falling position the game will just tp you out lol

[spring linden]

bruh why do we need a million components to make a buck capsule A

[dreamy zephyr]

i genuinely have no idea what im doing and hardstuck on this quest, is there a yt video for learning factories 💀 im new to these type of games

[sweet mantle]

Is blue one worth using instead of green?

[crystal herald]

same thing but mk2 takes more power

[jade hare]

only use the blue on ferrum

[sweet mantle]

I see

[nova osprey]

set the outputs of the PAC to match, that's all

[solid arrow]

anyone knows in which part of research is this??

[scarlet cipher]

Can you automate teh garden or do you have to manually do everything?

[atomic snow]

is there a better version than 18/18 so far?

[scarlet cipher]

Oh, there's a sprinkler at least...

[crystal herald]

18/18 and 24 buck C

[atomic snow]

ayo i see thx

[scarlet cipher]

Oh you can't even put sprinklers in Valley, haha, ok, I'm done with the garden already

[nova osprey]

better to go for 18/18 and 12 buck c, dump remainder into amethyst parts imo

[crystal herald]

u can make 24

[nova osprey]

sell once every ~11

[nova osprey]

i know you can but you're running a loss

you're consume more power for nothing

[crystal herald]

no?

[nova osprey]

yeah? buck c is 10 amethyst per 1 buck c, which is the same as turning 10 amethyst into 10 amethyst parts

[little night]

is there a way to prioritize where I get my powerfrom?

[nova osprey]

only thing you're doing is taking more power

[scarlet cipher]

Oh lulz your temamates help you with gardening, that's funny

[jade hare]

lets go, shes finally max level :)

[dreamy zephyr]

am i doing it correctly? im not sure either, it gets pretty fun when i get it working tho

[little night]

is there a way I give my power to specific facilities priority

[crystal herald]

look at my ss 🙂

[nova osprey]

no you dont understand my point

it takes 10 amethyst to make 1 buck c, and it sells for 10

10 amethyst sells for 10

you spend more power to make the plants etc to get the same amount of money

[trim star]

^^^

[dusty bluff]

anyone have tips for optimizing space?

[little night]

is there a way to bulk action turn off everything?

[meager panther]

You can get slightly more HC battery

[trim star]

when you're making spare buck capsules the only upside is that they store for more value

but you know what's a better idea is that situation

instead of making 18 capsule a, make 9 capsule a and 9 canned citrome a or similar

[nova osprey]

i saw your post, but im wondering what the power efficiency on your machine is in comparison to the price gain

[trim star]

and it will just let you store double the amount of money

[nova osprey]

exactly

so i only make 120 bc it lets me run amethyst 11 hours without filling to the cap

if i want to make it slower, i can

[rancid blaze]

What should I transfer to wuling?

[past falcon]

careful, there is no benefit in using the mk 2 mining rig for amathyst and originium, it does not mine faster, it takes double the energy so you would just wind up wasting energy if you swap all your mining rigs over thinking its faster/better, it's not, only use where needed.

[nova osprey]

indeed

[crystal herald]

2 amethyst for 1 buck C

[trim star]

grinding etchspace salvage rn

[nova osprey]

bring over some batteries

[trim star]

dead

[trim star]

i got lazy swapping them around so i just dropped it on every node

it doesnt end up mattering that much

but it is like

[meager panther]

it's a 95 increase in power from the 18 18 24 version

[trim star]

+150 power usage or smth like that

[past falcon]

it uses more energy - so if you care about wastage then it matters

[rancid blaze]

nah this useless..

[crystal herald]

but last one will not be efficient and you are running -10 net loss if you count wuling as well

[patent breach]

anyone know any widely approved steel and cryston blueprints?

[little night]

des anyone have blueprints for subpac battery powerhouses?

[nova osprey]

if you mean meta transfer, do ferrium bottles for best money

[meager panther]

Any setup running 18 18 will have the same issue, the last 1/3 is not that inefficient because you only need to run 1/3 of a line

[spring linden]

hi, is it safe to assume that the next tier C->B->A should always be preferred no matter the count efficiency-wise?

[nova osprey]

i wonder how it compares to running the 20 into a refinery though

[trim star]

is ferrium bottles 2 per transfer btw

[nova osprey]

yes

[trim star]

if so im just gonna stick to ferrium cause conversion is weird

[rancid blaze]

Hmmmmm, my ferrium is at max usage rn, but I guess I could pause production to make some bottles

[crystal herald]

hmmmm but still storing buck C is still easier

[nova osprey]

yes, i meant bottles my bad

[nova osprey]

yes it is easier storing, i just prefer 120 since it's on a 11 hour cd before i have to sell

[trim star]

selling amethyst bottles method

[nova osprey]

could make another machine and have it on 22 hour cooldown though

[rancid blaze]

are there any blueprints that give better?

[crystal herald]

hmmm true

[meager panther]

It costs 90 more power and produces extra 23.33 stock per minute so it seems worth

[meager panther]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466043358509273349

[ocean cloak]

Doesnt really matter too much anyway if you pause production once a while and manual transfer ferrium
And once gold gear hit 40k, full battery production already max out wuling outpost too anyway

[crystal herald]

I should have known sooner lol

[nova osprey]

honestly at that point i'd just turn the 20 remaining originium into origicrust, it's about the same

[rancid blaze]

yeah I will settle here lmao

[nova osprey]

it do be like that

[meager panther]

Not dedicated to the min max smh

[nova osprey]

i mean, did you factor in the comparison to origicrust?

[scarlet cipher]

Uh oh, I broke something somewhere... Power outage

[nova osprey]

because if you didnt, it's onle 3.33 stock / min better than just running orignium through a seperate line

[meager panther]

Yeah, mine takes 90 more power but produces 23.33 more than if you converted it to origicrust

[trim star]

the origocrust machine is aura though

you cant lie

[nova osprey]

no that can't be right

you're only gaining 0.33 more per minute

which is 23.333

running the origicrust through a seperate machine gives 20 a min

so your machine only produces 3.33/min better

[meager panther]

Ah you're right, I didn't actually add lol

Probably not worth it unless you're not hitting a power threshold then

[nova osprey]

maybe not, but it is a cool optimization you did

[jade hare]

anyone wanna add me?

[nova osprey]

actually impressive

[spring vessel]

im already dreading having to redo my ENTIRE factory for wuling

[nova osprey]

every major region update is going to be like that from now on

[spring vessel]

Endmin found dead in the bridge tuesday morning

note found blamed the recently uncovered region having new ores

and something about "spaghetti"

[scarlet compass]

how do I delete this bit? I don't see any keybind written as delete and I can't complete the tuto because of it even tho i've done all the objectives

[spring vessel]

and "no conveyor belt upgrades"

[uncut rock]

What should I upgrade first main base or outposts?

[spring vessel]

main base

[spring elm]

You "delete" it via stash

[spring vessel]

but you will use your outposts also

[ancient zinc]

Since u ask that silly question..

Why not BOTH

[spring vessel]

how do i tell someone they are gonna have to upgrade everything

[scarlet compass]

oh, ok... I thought it was in the menu you have when you place them T-T
ty

[dreamy zephyr]

how do i store in depot?

[uncut rock]

Which one do i prioritize?

[spring vessel]

I still need to max out my outposts

gotta up my production of selling mats

[nova osprey]

if you have power plateau, upgrade one sub pac, get a HC battery layout, copy paste it there, then upgrade main PAC, then start pasting buck As

then upgrade other sub PACs, dupe your battery to those sub PACs, boom, setup done

[uncut rock]

Got it

[nova osprey]

that is if you dont want to do any factory work at all

[nova osprey]

actually dont listen to me im wrong

[uncut rock]

Okay

[nova osprey]

i forgot, you cant sell buck A when you're low outpost level

[ancient zinc]

Ofc main

At early stage ur main has bit cheapest Depotbus and expansion vs outpost

[nova osprey]

or HC batteries

[uncut rock]

Noted Ty

[trim star]

you just have a green battery setup a blue battery setup (super dense) and then just your normal super wide simple purple machines

that's all you need

[nova osprey]

yeah smth along those lines

[scarlet cipher]

I did not realize this was a legal way to build...

[trim star]

it isnt

[uncut rock]

Bet

[trim star]

the unloader/loader works, but the refining unit doesnt

[nova osprey]

it wont let you run lines through

[trim star]

because it's outside the base

[uncut rock]

Damm

[scarlet cipher]

None at all? Or can I run lines out of the rightmost ports still?

[ancient zinc]

U can but it won’t run later

[trim star]

depot unloaders work anywhere

[scarlet cipher]

Oh wait, I see, the ports don't even show up...

[nova osprey]

none at all, you can see that the white and green arrows on your machine aren't there

[trim star]

you just have to be able to put a belt on them

[nova osprey]

yeah

[trim star]

machines dont

machines only work in the aic area

[uncut rock]

Oh what is the best place to put the main aic?

[trim star]

in fact if you offset an unloader outside of your base it actually takes up the regional building limit

[nova osprey]

wdym

[rancid blaze]

What should I use my amethyst for?

[true sequoia]

Got tired of needing energy and since I have so many rocks this is perfect.

[uncut rock]

You can move it so it's not in the middle

[nova osprey]

if you got everything done, 120/180 into buck c, rest into part

[trim star]

i feel this

[ancient zinc]

Or start making green batteries

[nova osprey]

ah i have mine in the corner

[trim star]

edge of the map is optimal for pac core

[uncut rock]

Copy

[trim star]

smile

[true sequoia]

Not enough purple rock

[rare cobalt]

that usage is a problem for future me

[jade hare]

how long does it take for sanity to regen?

[spring elm]

The PAC is linked to the depot, so any production facilties you make that have transport belts linking to it's input slots will put the item into the depot.

[nova osprey]

believe it's 7:12 per

[wise wagon]

What are good ways to increase regional development? I've already have energy mineral node ming, upgraded most depots, stock exchange and recycling to the max or close to it but im still lvl 10 almost 11

[lusty juniper]

this is my current main base im only rank 28 and exploration rank 4 so what to do now :(

[round vine]

Am I doing this right

[unique nebula]

is there a way to mass produce flowers the same way we mass mine ores in this game?

[ancient zinc]

Well if I were u

Just take ur time and rush don’t things

[trim star]

planting unit for white plants, farms for green

[nova osprey]

if all those are upgraded, need to upgrade your outposts next. each upgrade is ~2k

[ancient zinc]

Look at us lvl 43+ at Wuling FACTORY PROGRESS STOP

[spring elm]

Not if past and present you already knows about it 😛

[wise wagon]

all my hubs are lvl 3 as well

[nova osprey]

is that your own or is that a sim

[wise wagon]

im kinda stuck at what to do

[rare cobalt]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hush-creepy

[nova osprey]

upgrade more depots and stock exchanges

and recyclers

[true sequoia]

I spend a day on building.... I just unlock the bus ... Lol

[ancient zinc]

But at the same time do your main missions

[rancid blaze]

Is that 2 amethyst, 2 berry outputs?

[scarlet cipher]

Ok... What can I do with 120 Ferrium output? ;P

[rare cobalt]

should i bank on my friend's highest or wait

[spring elm]

once you get the electric mining rigs, you will have more purple rocks than you know what to do with

[true sequoia]

I made this farm just now those Some one have a better early med farm for selling .?

[round vine]

my own also wdym sim

[ancient zinc]

Dew it

[nova osprey]

wait for 4.2+

[nova osprey]

simulation (tutorial)

[wise wagon]

It just sucks ass that metastorage is unlocked at lvl 12 as im already consuming 240 ferrium in wuling but i only generate 90 with the nodes, so i have to manually move mats over just to keep the process going

[rancid blaze]

Wth

[round vine]

Ah, so how do people expand on their modular builds

[true sequoia]

Already have it is the output is to juch I need more

[nova osprey]

yours isnt efficient, but if you just need some steel that's fine

[nova osprey]

a lot of experimentation tbh, and also practice

the more you do the factory the easier it will be to see possible optimizations

[ancient zinc]

Would be funny if END had co op and ur friend doing the mine drill set up for u

[nova osprey]

and typically, make smaller machines work around bigger ones, i find that helps. it goes both ways though

[ancient zinc]

Definition of I MAKE U MINE

[round vine]

Huh how do i make it more efficient, the factory system here is odd compared to factorio so my prior knowledge isn’t working

[ancient zinc]

I sound cringe

[round vine]

can’t make a main bus in here like factorio

[ornate rune]

anyone know of a 9 or 12/min buck a blueprint that fits into a sub pac

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/622869996908838952/1359570600791773264/rq00ny.gif

[ancient zinc]

Would be best to look for references or BP #1461542035617091681

[ornate rune]

i did

i'm asking bc what i'm looking for isn't there

lol

[nova osprey]

uhh so a number to keep track of is that each line is 30/min or 1 per 2s

you want your factories to be running at full capacity if they're taking power, so making sure ratios are correct

(i.e: dense ferrium is 10 ferrium : 5 sandleaf, and operates every 2s. To be optimal, it should have 2 lines of ferrium and 1 line of sandleaf powder)

[nova osprey]

don't think there is, not enough space. put buck A on main, batteries on subs

[ancient zinc]

Keep looking LOL

I got mine from there

[keen badge]

Just can't seem to get this right @.@
1 or 2 belts of Ferrium - the packager starves (buck powder clogs)
3 or 4 belts - packager runs but then I've got too many bottles?

[vagrant sky]

making dense ferrium powder in two sub PAC areas to then transfer into the hub main PAC for purple battery production, finally finished making the first of the two dense ferrium powder sub PACs

[lethal meteor]

oughh idk what to make for the wuling aic

[ornate rune]

cooked!

[lethal meteor]

because of the low max energy

[ancient zinc]

Back to basic 101

Thermal bank + Ori ores = cheap savior

[obtuse nacelle]

wonder what’d be most space efficient to manufacture for mass money printing at outposts

[nova osprey]

batteries 100%

[shrewd umbra]

[nova osprey]

specifically HC batteries once you get there

[ancient zinc]

Unless before getting Wuling u already prepared everything for BIG PROGRESS JUMP

[nova osprey]

what's this

[ancient zinc]

Waste efficiency

[shrewd umbra]

this is

the wuling tax

[lethal meteor]

guess youre right

but i still gotta get to the other mining spots in wuling

[ancient zinc]

It only took 1 sec and u made more slower by separating

[obtuse nacelle]

don’t they need more outputs than Buck Capsule A?

[crimson inlet]

trying to miniaturize carbon production

[ocean cloak]

18 Buck+18 HC setup already make more than you can sell anyway

[shrewd umbra]

ok so just to be clear, the point of this mechanism is to siphon off 5 ferrite/minute

[serene nest]

there's not enough resources in wuling to do anything too creative. make 2 lines of batteries or 1 line of components and you're out of xiranite

[nova osprey]

buck a needs more space

even though less outputs

wait no

batteries take less inputs and less space

[lethal meteor]

what should i transport from valley 4 to wuleing? any recommendations?

[silent jacinth]

How to unlock this?

[nova osprey]

for transfer? no meta transfer yet i guess

[shrewd umbra]

ferrite

[nova osprey]

if meta transfer, ferrium bottles

[shrewd umbra]

metatransfer makes you lose 5/minute

no?

[nova osprey]

no you lose nothing

[obtuse nacelle]

not gonna make that much

[worn vapor]

I rawdogged Wuling personally (it sucked for the first day or so before I got more optimized setups going and a second forge and figured out what I was doing) but now i'm running the entire place on two thermal banks and am producing LC Wuling Batteries, Yazhen Syringes and Xiranite components now.

[serene nest]

transfer dense originium powder

[ancient zinc]

Dang ur having Power problem?

[shrewd umbra]

i should reword

even WITH metatransfer bottles, wuling still uses more ferrite than can be input automatically no?

[serene nest]

you can send exactly 25/min, which is the exact shortfall in wuling to make 2 lines of batteries

[lethal meteor]

nono it works i was just agreeing with your statement

[nova osprey]

yes by 5/min

[shrewd umbra]

hence

[nova osprey]

i see your point

[limpid pagoda]

No batteries?

[nova osprey]

not sure if it's worth though, you still make more than enough to meet stock bill requirements

[ancient zinc]

[nova osprey]

manually moving seems like a pain too ngl, i'd rather run at 96% efficiency for meds

[lethal meteor]

there's supposed to be a sub pac in jingyu valley right?

[shrewd umbra]

eventually with the heat death of the universe you will run out of ferrite

[desert creek]

No point transferring bottles over ores

[nova osprey]

unless your ferrium is going into batteries, i don't see how that's an issue

[lethal meteor]

?

[nova osprey]

there is a point, saves you the processing

[desert creek]

you mean space?

[worn vapor]

yes, it unlocks after the story

or at least, near the end of it.

[nova osprey]

space and energy, no point turning 1500 ferrium into 750 bottles when you can just transfer 750 bottles

[lethal meteor]

oh

[desert creek]

I don't think you are saving that much energy lol

space, if you really need to squeeze it out

[shrewd umbra]

hmm

how many xiranite cmoponents do you need to make to max out artificing/week

[nova osprey]

whats the point of doing ferrium over bottles when you're going to turn them into bottles anyways

[desert creek]

simplicity

[shrewd umbra]

might as well do it in valley 4

its just way easier

energy is inherently more valuable in wuling

[limpid pagoda]

Okay just unlocked AIC for Wuling, seems like water is the big thing for Wuling factories. Do i build water related stuff for my wuling factories

[desert creek]

Aren't you feeding the battery into the bank anyways

[twin crow]

can you connect power lines across areas?

[scarlet cipher]

Is there anything good to build with 120 Ferrium/min?

[desert creek]

Two refiner and one moulding uses total of 20 energy

[shrewd umbra]

if you're not maxed out on energy sure, but if you're near cap then it matters and you might as well hit cap

[limpid pagoda]

You can. But some are harder than others.
One example is the Lodespring. It has no sub AIC so you have to manually connect a power grid from the Science Park. It is possible but will feel annoying cause the border between it is narrow

[desert creek]

how much energy are you at in wuling

[still harbor]

you only need like 1.8k energy in wuling for now

[limpid pagoda]

The other region that lacks a sub AIC is the quarry, meaning you should have a power line from the Hub if you wanna power up stuff in the quarry.

[shrewd umbra]

i am running a single thermal generator and am at 1.78k/1.8k i think

[desert creek]

ok, im at 2.6k

maybe that's why lol

[shrewd umbra]

tbh im like

[limpid pagoda]

Dont know about Wuling since i just unlocked it hours ago

[shrewd umbra]

considering cutting off wuling battery entirely and powering from manually transferred HC batteries lol

[desert creek]

do you not have ziplines ?

[nova osprey]

i throttle my batteries, so every ounce of power is money for me

[median hinge]

once you get 100% uptime on purple battery production you can get ~4.2k off only 1 packaging unit production and 4 generators

[desert creek]

don't you craft enough products to max out anyways?

[serene nest]

2600 seems really high, are you using valley 4 plants to make carbon?

[shrewd umbra]

i really only have one line for depot missions and then maaayybe some for resources

[shrewd umbra]

yes but i can sell the batteries

[desert creek]

no, i mean to 0 out the generated bills

[nova osprey]

i like to min max call it an autistic fixation

[solid arrow]

guys how can i see how much mats im making per min?

[tepid rain]

ME HEAD BURN

[still harbor]

aic report

[limpid pagoda]

Tip: When you build power lines, first start connecting a wire from the relay tower and then place a relay tower once you reach around the limit to an appropriate spot. So this happens less

[shrewd umbra]

let me calc

[limpid pagoda]

I know its a meme and I do find it 100% relatable

[desert creek]

Can you also calculate if trasnferring battery is more efficient than ores

[solid arrow]

where is that? sorry im slow

[desert creek]

😂

[jade hare]

is the quest "Freedom of Expansion" the last available story quest?

[hard kayak]

Click the aic, then reports

[limpid pagoda]

and the connection line system is really weird. Like one milimetre farther and it says nope, cant connect lines.

[nova osprey]

let me check, need to boot up my game though

[still harbor]

esc>aic report at the bottom

[ancient zinc]

AIC= your big tower

[worn vapor]

i'm running my wuling on two thermal banks fed with the wuling batteries, making 6 per minute and it only uses 2.5 a minute. You may have to look at your battery line and optimize it a bit, thats what I had to do and it made a big difference.

[desert creek]

I'm at 4.5 syringe, 6 (9 - 3used) battery per min in wuling

[foggy arch]

12/m bat and 6/m syringe is achievable

[serene nest]

without manually transferring?

[scarlet cipher]

Is there a way to split max production HVC battery into only one thermal and put the rest in storage? How many lines into storage do you need to not over or underfill the thermal?

[desert creek]

show me the magic

[shrewd umbra]

i think im running 6 syringe 6 battery off 1.5 battery

thing is that the outpost gains 16770/hr

[foggy arch]

Yeah, after ur valley regional lvl is 12 u unlock meta transfer that just dupe ferra to wuling also need like regional 4-5 for this

[still harbor]

im also doing 6 of each ye

[desert creek]

I think I am in the negative

😭

[serene nest]

you can only transfer 25 ferrium/min, you're missing 30 ferrium/min and 60 originium/min

er, 50 orginium/min

[desert creek]

12 bat and 6/m syringe doesnt sound right

[foggy arch]

U only lose like 5/min

[serene nest]

you can only do 1 of those transfers

[foggy arch]

Ferrarium ore

[nova osprey]

the batteries definitely cant keep up with your output to increase wuling battery, if that's what you're asking

the only thing it could be good for would be to bring it back to sell o.o

[desert creek]

Are you completely giving up on crafting xiranite comp?

[foggy arch]

Yeah I’m stockpiling on stuff to sell first

[shrewd umbra]

9 battery is crazy

[desert creek]

Maybe I need to go back down to 1.8 power somehow

[ancient zinc]

For gold artifacts?

[desert creek]

ye

[foggy arch]

Already got like 8k something component

[desert creek]

Duck is saying 12 per min is possible for batteries

[shrewd umbra]

i wonder how many components you need for artificing per week

[ancient zinc]

Me yes but problem is idk what set will shine for my operators

[worn vapor]

it should be afaik, you def will need the second forge though

[desert creek]

That would mean all the xira are going to battery, 0 to xira comp

[serene nest]

yeah, you can do 12/min batteries if you transfer dense orig powder, but you can't do both syringes and batteries

[nova osprey]

no, the plan is to minmax enough so i can turn it off at times, plus, i also have other things that i need to spend my sanity on so it evens out

for now that is

[vapid granite]

Just because i hear lots of people struggle with outpost tower defense--

Tesla towers are your best friends

[ancient zinc]

I’m running 1 Wuling battery and 1 Xira comp

[jade hare]

can someone help me set up Wuling?

[still harbor]

i just have 1 farm for each item in wuling lmao

1 bat 1 comp 1 med

[nova osprey]

i actually dont use them lol

[desert creek]

that would prob generate 6 batter per min?

[vapid granite]

This shit gasses on grenade towers

[nova osprey]

but that's probably bc i got to wuling before i started all that

[ancient zinc]

Not optimal but better than nothing

[obtuse nacelle]

what’s the max amount of originium I can mine in Valley IV?

[nova osprey]

the grenade towers are the best ones

[nova osprey]

560

[ancient zinc]

Nah I have to ON and OFF due to resources limits

[obtuse nacelle]

ah, so i’m over consuming at 690 needed

terrible

[worn vapor]

do you even need to transfer originium? I feel like there is more than enough income from the nodes once you have the region levelled no?

[nova osprey]

3 HC batteries and 3 buck A is the way to go when you can start trading those

[foggy arch]

im transfering ferra ore for syringe, net loss is 5ore/min

[ancient zinc]

Even transferring at my Valley resources can’t spare anything..

Since it’s been using fer ores hard

[nova osprey]

transfer bottles, i rest my case

[tepid rain]

Hello, can you recommend some midgame blueprints for me because I haven't unlocked the last outpost?

[desert creek]

how many set ups for syringe? 2?

[still harbor]

ya my v4 ferr is used 1:1 so transferring to wuling ill run out eventually

[nova osprey]

it's 1

[serene nest]

I must be missing some originium patches if there's 360 available in the region then

[nova osprey]

2 would be 12/min theoretical

[dawn glen]

can you setup all the ziplines in wuling with just 1 LC wuling maker?

[nova osprey]

dont think so

[foggy arch]

is it worth it

[dawn glen]

because im afraid to setup the city ziplines im at 1.55/1.8 but i have south zone wired up and ziplined

[nova osprey]

i mean it's 750 bottles, you just save the trouble of refining and moulding, less machines

[obtuse nacelle]

the issue was I had a SC battery plant so that I didn’t run out of power, so I hooked up a thermal bank to my HC batteries so that i’d have power

[desert creek]

it saves some power

[worn vapor]

I refuse to use ziplines because the game is so pretty esp Wuling I'd rather just walk

[desert creek]

it has a point for some minmaxers

[foggy arch]

no saving power on my watch

[still harbor]

💀

[dawn glen]

wuling south is aids without ziplines

[foggy arch]

im putting my 2 battery to work

[desert creek]

bro, how are you at 3.4k if you are only using 2 bat per min

why is mine at 3

[scarlet cipher]

Are gifts in the ship the only way to increase trust?

[ancient zinc]

Hmmm

[worn vapor]

I love the giant lily pads

[foggy arch]

if u are using 2 battery it fluctuate from 2-4/min

[worn vapor]

they're so fun

[nova osprey]

classic meta transfer

[primal oak]

Also put them in the control nexus does as well, but those are the only two options.

[ancient zinc]

Nope..basically it sustains itself without Me doing anything

[desert creek]

Is this your set up too?

[round vine]

Ahhh thanks a lot! And what’s the general setup people go with for optimizing space? Like do people treat depot like you would a main bus in factorio?

[solid arrow]

guys how do i place auto production formulas in my machines?

[dawn glen]

LMAO you guys are using 2 thermal banks?

[desert creek]

Wait

Don't you need two

💀

[dawn glen]

i dont lol

[desert creek]

Are you sub 1.8

[foggy arch]

depend on ur build lol

[dawn glen]

i make yazhen, components, and battery

[desert creek]

I guess you aren't making much other stuff

[foggy arch]

im at 3k

[dawn glen]

ziplines all over south

thats it

i dont need anything else LOL

[still harbor]

im not using that much power either

[desert creek]

Am I just a zipline enjoyer

[dawn glen]

i dont have ziplines on north

[still harbor]

i have never placed a zip in my entire playtime

[dense heath]

you don’t just put the item

[dawn glen]

my valley 4 is running 2 HC factories eating with 1 thermal bank each

[desert creek]

you monsters aren't running your depot orders, are ya?

[dawn glen]

but its supported by a full speed SC factory

[dawn glen]

i dont get any depot orders, i just sell mine off LOL

[still harbor]

i share them. sharing is caring

[foggy arch]

what im doing with my 2 battery

[desert creek]

playing a different game

[dawn glen]

[nova osprey]

not sure, i haven't played factorio all too much, but people typically take things out of the bus here in arknights since there's not other way other than the PAC to do so, but there's also another machine to put things into depot outside of the busses/pac

[dawn glen]

its more money to sell off the depot orders

my inbox is empty most of the time so i dont get any order i can personally do

[still harbor]

you have to camp it and spam refresh to find orders

[nova osprey]

like transfer them?

[dawn glen]

yeahhh i dont care enough

[nova osprey]

oh i see

you mean mat to stock efficiency

[dawn glen]

oh yeah i am making a metric shitton of buckwheat to sell to the delivery boxes lol

[desert creek]

Seems about right

[primal oak]

You can sell off and take jobs of 3 other people's for 7 delieveries worth of bills each day.

[dawn glen]

...? okay?

did you miss the part where i said i dont feel like camping the terminal?

[desert creek]

By that metric, I should be able to 0 out the stock every day

[ancient zinc]

👌

[shrewd umbra]

here we are again

[nova osprey]

okay but fr though why is your product going like that

[nova osprey]

now that i understand

[shrewd umbra]

10/minute going into components 💀

[upbeat coyote]

Hey guys , I was wondering if anyone can advice a blueprints guide from the blueprint section , for Valley 4 , I Have everything maxed out , just need to upgrade the last area to max , thanks in advance :)

[dawn glen]

3hc 3 buckwheat A

go ham

[ancient zinc]

#1461542035617091681 go look here

[ancient zinc]

idk…since I copy this BP from someone

[nova osprey]

can i see up top? the plant maker?

[upbeat coyote]

SubPac is all the zone except the main one right?

[desert creek]

Splitter life

[upbeat coyote]

my game is not in english so i don't really know

[ancient zinc]

[desert creek]

I want only 1/4 of xira to go into gearing for component

[nova osprey]

im saying it's not efficient

[crimson inlet]

fellas, there's a possibility in this

[nova osprey]

you have meta transfer yes?

[ancient zinc]

Which part? Coz I got for syringes and for my Wuling battery

[nova osprey]

syringes

[desert creek]

It's probably because you have more production than resource

[ancient zinc]

Well it’s not optional since I haven’t unlock area expansion

[crimson inlet]

since one jincao powder produces 2 carbon powder, and 1 jincao plant produces 2 jincao powder

[nova osprey]

kk

[karmic idol]

Does anybody have any auto farm codes?

[vapid granite]

Im still in valley IV finally grasping the factory system and seeing new shit like that is pissing me off

[dawn glen]

does tower defense level regional development

[ancient zinc]

[desert creek]

Welcome to the forge of the sky

[vapid granite]

If you mean the factory credits yeah, level 1 gives 5% increase and level 2 is 15%

level 3 idk i forgot to look

[dawn glen]

..regional development

[tall dawn]

how much usage is 1 depot unloader for xiranite?

[dawn glen]

level

this thing

[nova osprey]

not that i know of

[dawn glen]

kk

[undone ether]

The turret only mode might? There should be a list of what gives regional development

[dawn glen]

yeah i dont see it, idk if its listed as something else

is anyone lv 12 in valley 4 show me theirs? idk what im missing

[dawn glen]

stock redistributer and recycling station apparently

[tall dawn]

HELP!
I cannot figure out how im using so much Xiranite! I only have 3 depot belt unloaders (1 going for LC batteries), 2 going for (Xiranite component)

[vapid granite]

no

[serene nest]

each unloader is 30/min, that seems right for 3 unloaders

[nova osprey]

it's a lot per upgrade, like 750 per

[ancient zinc]

It’s just temporary once I get my area expansion upgrade I will increase production

@nova osprey @desert creek

[woeful tartan]

All this just to get 1 Buck Capsule A every 15s

[nova osprey]

yeah it was the planters on the right causing it, need one more

not duping properly

[vapid granite]

When you become more experiences youll figure out new ways to compact everything

[ancient zinc]

Noted

[woeful tartan]

Id say this is already pretty good

God bless belt bridges

[undone ether]

Use bus depots

[woeful tartan]

Havent unlocked yet I think

[undone ether]

Its like 20k stock bills

[woeful tartan]

What do they do

Are they like the exports in the PAC

[ionic salmon]

is there anyway to transfer say like, amethyst from my depot, to my storage nodes without manually doing it myself, and without like.... connecting them to the depot? I noticed it can remote transfer stuff to the depot but can it do it the other way around? depot transfer stuff to the storage nodes?

[tall dawn]

HELP!
I cannot figure out how im using so much Xiranite! I only have 3 depot belt unloaders (1 going for LC batteries), 2 going for (Xiranite component)

[nova osprey]

each depot unloader is 30/min, that's your answer

[undone ether]

Every unit thats refining Xiranite at 2s each is 30/min

[dawn glen]

there is 3... stock redistributors in valley 4?

[tall dawn]

so there is no stable way to get 6 per min on both components and batteries?

[nova osprey]

nope

but do you even need that many components

[tall dawn]

lol

[nova osprey]

cant even get that much stock bills to make it gear 24/7

[tall dawn]

im at 2.51k of them

i guess i can turn it on if i ever want more

[nocturne fractal]

how to rotate view in top down mode?

[nova osprey]

yeap

[tall dawn]

ok i turned that off

[nova osprey]

should be ctrl + r on pc

[delicate lagoon]

how many batteries per minute do we need to be positive income on wuling meaning i can clear out the outpost everyday?

[undone ether]

1 in the hub (Worker Dorms)
1 in Originium Science Park (Mountain Path Slope)
1 in Lodespring (Mining Area Clinic)

[dawn glen]

kk cool got them all upgraded, wooo time to figure out what meta storage is because i clicked too fast

[undone ether]

Turns your transfers between regions into generation

As long as you have that much resource already

[dawn glen]

generation....?

[undone ether]

Extra yield

[dawn glen]

as in i just pull the ferrite im transfering to wuling out of my ass instead out of my storage?

[undone ether]

pretty much lol

[dawn glen]

lmfao

amazing

[undone ether]

as an example; if you transfer 1500 Ferrite to wuling it'll generate that ferrite over time instead of using your storage

[dawn glen]

ohhhh cool so i get 1500 ferrite/hr in wuling for free

[mortal socket]

i hope they add placeable decoration stuff in the AIC area so i can feel less bad about unoptimized space

[serene nest]

er, woops, 16,770/60/25 = 11.18

[undone ether]

STONKS! (3700 Profit per)

[delicate lagoon]

ehhh wuling one makes 15480 per hour

so it would be 15480 huh

[dawn glen]

ahh im glad i dumped 8k ferrite onto wuling, everything runs at max speed now and its great

[undone ether]

Woo

[serene nest]

mine shows:

[delicate lagoon]

whatttt

[nova osprey]

lvl 2 and also tower defense

[delicate lagoon]

ohh tower defense

[undone ether]

Tower defense is nice

[delicate lagoon]

okay good to know

so 11.18 huh...

[undone ether]

I should go back to valley IV and upgrade my AIC areas and depots again lol

[mortal socket]

noice, yesterday i got an item at -80% price and then sold it at one of my friend's market where the item was at +80%, so the markup was something ridiculous like 850%

[shrewd umbra]

[nova osprey]

and operators

forgot to mention operators

though idk you probably have that already

[shrewd umbra]

incredible power usage

[delicate lagoon]

rn im making 15 per hour let me see how i can remove some to make them into components lol

well 18 but 3 battery usage

[serene nest]

I'm guessing you're using a buffer of xiranite, you won't be able to sustain 18/min

[true nebula]

efficient pylon usage for sprinklers

[serene nest]

you pretty much have to supplement bill income with syringes

[true nebula]

how am i supposed to share a BP like this lolol

is it excel time

[delicate lagoon]

i meant 12 battery and 6 syringe my bad

i wonder how i can remove some of that to be able to make components

maybe remove some production

[undone ether]

woop. All depot nodes upgraded now in Valley-IV

[mortal socket]

man it really annoys me that the PAC and most of the basic facilites take up an odd number of tiles, while the advanced facilites and build space are all even

[round vine]

What’re the ratios for a hc valley battery?

[edgy burrow]

I don't understand why would my buck capsule A production crumble later on?

[nova osprey]

4 ferrium 6 originium

[nova osprey]

cant tell with just these, whats your base like

[quartz socket]

In order to get Buck Capsule A to 6 per minute this is how big it needs to be, absolutely ridiculous

[mortal socket]

get those lodespring mines going

[edgy burrow]

I should screen shot my entire factories?

[mortal socket]

670 ferrium/min is pretty low for sustaining buck A production

[round vine]

Thanks! So I’m guessing I’ll put 10 depot unloaders and then get those out?

[nova osprey]

yes

[nova osprey]

yeah

[desert fulcrum]

do you have a blueprint for this?

[edgy burrow]

Is there more? I am pretty sure I got every mine in valley 4

[dawn glen]

how do i get access to the sanity usage permit that restocks? is that V4

[edgy burrow]

Alright I will do it in a bit thanks for your help already

[mortal socket]

you're probably missing quite a few or need to up your development level

max ferrium income in valley is 1080

[quartz socket]

Im losing ferrium running my Buck A capsule but evrrything else im yielding more

im tired boss i dont wanna connect relay towers all the way to Lode spring

[mortal socket]

the sooner you get it done the easier your life will be

[edgy burrow]

OH YES
Omg some mining spots are not available for me for that reason yeah? FUUUUUUCK

[mortal socket]

you'll also need to bring power for ziplines if you intend on doing the depot deliveries

[unreal sundial]

do expansions give region lvl exp?

[edgy burrow]

Plus there's the wolfguard quest

[quartz socket]

Im tired boss can i stop working

[edgy burrow]

Alright thanks
Ah man the factory broke me in so many ways

I feel so stupid now damn

[mortal socket]

you'll get to rest when that factory is running at perfect efficiency

[serene nest]

no

[mortal socket]

yeah wolfguard quest gatekeeps a huge ferrium vein

[unreal sundial]

Alright thanks

[edgy burrow]

This statement makes wanna cry cuz it's true

[brave edge]

i think i can probably make a steel part set up on my own but thats also a lot of stuff i need to wire together, does someone have a blueprint for it that i can see/use?

[plucky plank]

why is my theoretical data showing 6 yield per min but my current is actually 1 per min

[desert fulcrum]

Do you have a link to this blueprint? for 12 bat 6 syringe

[edgy burrow]

I guess I will do them tomorrow my factory can sustain itself for at least two days....... Efficiency is a bitch sometimes yk

[tiny egret]

So are mining rigs usually clogged(with transfer still ongoing) or do i have to add a facility to speed up depot transfer?

[serene nest]

to whoever was asking earlier, 5.5 syringes/min gives 88 bills/min, batteries will need to make up the rest of 191.5 bills/min, which is 7.66 batteries/min

[edgy burrow]

And just to be safe a 6/min buckcapusle A is efficient yes?

[whole whale]

Y'all I made a system to make purple batteries in the valley pass outpost, is it normal for it to take the entire godamn depot belt??
it runs at max efficiency but it's unbelievable it uses up the whole belt

[quartz socket]

Back to the factory before i run out of ferrium 😭 ima need alot of relay towers and my power bank is cooked

[mortal socket]

damn it

[true nebula]

clearly a reasonable blueprint

[serene nest]

7.66 + 3(for use) batteries a min takes 53.3 xiranite/min, so you're left with 6.7 xiranite/min to make components

[whole whale]

sprinklers??

[placid abyss]

Is this a mess

[whole whale]

oh wait is that wuling stuff

[nova osprey]

can make it smaller by feeding auto planters directly in, instead of going into depot and back out

[worn vapor]

mine also takes up the whole belt, but uhh, there has got to be a better way I refuse to believe that this is at all efficient xD

[mortal socket]

i was planning on optimizing some productions on my valley sub-pacs but i forgot about the limited ammount of output gates

[true nebula]

ye for the farming area in wuling

[whole whale]

i have the auto planters in other outposts, so i can feed sandleaf directly then going into a shredder

[desert fulcrum]

Do you have a link to the 12 bat 6 syringe setup? I know it requires regional transfer. I'm glad to do that

[nova osprey]

imagine farming

[crimson inlet]

I'm preparing for the update

[gentle ember]

Question regarding the Miners as I've heard conflicting details about this

other than the ability to mine Ferrium is there a difference between the MK1 Miner and MK2?

[nova osprey]

yeah, im just saying if you put the auto planter here, instead of there, you can use less depot bus space

[desert fulcrum]

endgame food is big. farms are no joke

[gentle ember]

Like does the MK2 get more materials than the MK1 for originium and Amythyst

[whole whale]

ah i see what you mean

[crimson inlet]

wuling and valley shared its resource when building stuff

[whole whale]

on the other hand my purple battery setup is so fucked i think it would implode if i add an autoplanter

[serene nest]

mk2 uses 5 more power, it does not give more originium or amethyst

best to use mk1 for orignium and amethyst

[nova osprey]

it do be like that

[gentle ember]

God damnit, Now I need to go back and replace a bunch of stuff

[worn vapor]

does anyone know how many HC valley batteries you should be getting a min per packaging unit at max efficiency??

[nova osprey]

18

oh per packaging unit? 6

[mortal socket]

yeah 6

[crimson inlet]

imagine it has a hidden feature when higher quality in mk2 multiplies it more

[worn vapor]

6? ok, i'll have to do some reorganizing then ty

[dawn glen]

how do i get more sanity spending tickets that arent from BP?

[nova osprey]

as a rule of thumb, theoretical is max output

[serene nest]

just run the dungeon twice

[nova osprey]

stock exchange has some, but they are expensive

[dawn glen]

do they ever restock?

[nova osprey]

no

[dawn glen]

😭

[mortal socket]

belts carry items at a 0.5/s rate, so to know if you're working at full capacity just compare that to the production time

[dawn glen]

i dont wanna do deep dives 900 times

[minor hill]

well, for now it should be enough, factory so bad that i dont want to show it :c, ill improve it later ig

[dawn glen]

1/min

[serene nest]

you're only going to run a couple per day cause of stamina, it's the gacha long grind

[minor hill]

😭

[crimson inlet]

if you want sandleaf, use my overkill setup

[mortal socket]

for example if a production takes 10s and uses 10 of any given material for full efficiency you need 2 inputs of that particular item

[minor hill]

i should be fineeee

[minor hill]

ill use it!

just need to expand factory area

[slate minnow]

I made a Buck cap C farm but i want Buck cap. B farm. The fitting unit keep making C type sooo is there any solution. Like pin the recipe or focus it. Or i gotta insert 10 buck so it can produce B type. If so, how would i do it 🤔

[inland perch]

How do i connect the mineral beds located in abandoned trails? I wanna connect it to valley aic

[indigo hamlet]

guys is there a way I can move items from valley IV to Wuling factory automatically ?

[serene nest]

what's that 2D | 3D thing on your topview?

[quartz socket]

Bruh

[fossil dew]

[indigo hamlet]

where can I find ts 0-0

[minor hill]

open the aic core

[slate minnow]

If i remember its depot

[mortal socket]

lmfao i hate that so much

you gotta go all the way around

[fossil dew]

Its not worth it gng

[minor hill]

ong

[mortal socket]

metaspace makes it free resource income

[indigo hamlet]

thats too much Ill do it manually XD

[serene nest]

regional transfer/metastorage is very limited, don't get your hopes up, you can't even transfer a full belt of raw materials

[minor hill]

think about it, it needs to travel all this distance

[fossil dew]

You know that putting stuff into your inventory then moving it is more efficient than that right

[mortal socket]

well yeah but that requires me to do things

[minor hill]

thats what i did to get a few seeds

[minor hill]

everything for factory

is worth it

[ocean cloak]

You can do both

[minor hill]

i wish i could move it all at once to wuling 😭

[fossil dew]

Its a waste of time, you’re technically losing profits for having to wait for the shipping to another region

[ocean cloak]

Since Metaspace transfer work while you are offline

[ocean cloak]

Metastorage doesnt consume the product from your other region...

It just free 1500 ferrium every hr

[lone shore]

how do i do this ?

[vestal moat]

decent stock today

[fossil dew]

Raise a depot node to level 2

[minor hill]

i still to this day dont understand stocks

[lone shore]

what depot node ?

[vestal moat]

not game breaking but at least nice

[vestal moat]

buy low sell high on friend

[shrewd grotto]

are u able to choose which side products/inputs come in and out of the crucible and other stuff requiring pipes? its kinda annoying having to direct certain stuff in from certain directions

[ocean cloak]

Best you can is just rotate the machine

[royal raft]

I logged back on, and all electricity ran out. Do i have to demolish everything and start over 🙁

[mortal socket]

input and output are fixed, but you can change out of which pipe it comes out

[ocean cloak]

Do you have battery in your depot

[mellow jungle]

Couldn't you just make a sandleaf farm in wuling instead of importing them?
Idk i haven't been to wuling yet

[mortal socket]

you can

[true nebula]

(you should use batteries if you have them)

[shrewd grotto]

its in origium science park kind of close to the first tp point u unlock there

[true nebula]

if not you should have OOre stash

[random beacon]

n just chuck in enough batteries

[true nebula]

if not, go mine OOre by hand :^)

[meager panther]

Proof of concept: create batteries if originium block exists (imported from wuling), else makes Buck capsule A

[shrewd grotto]

the icon on the map looks like a cube

[mellow jungle]

Easy 600 power there

[true nebula]

alternatively, get to wuling and steal lc wuling batteries

[lone shore]

what where in there, a depot node ?

[plucky plank]

yo guys why is the theoretical data always higher than the current data on my HC batteries

[mortal socket]

wait how does the logic gate work?

[shrewd grotto]

yeah depot nodes look like cubes

[split sky]

A viable battery cycle finally

[gentle ember]

Follow up question to this, Do we get a better mine at any point? like one that mines at a faster speed?

[ocean cloak]

No

[gentle ember]

Ok good

[ocean cloak]

Just low purity vs high purity

But that just base on development lvl

[shrewd grotto]

i assume there's a bottleneck somewhere down the line. Are all of the machines before the packaging unit running at max capacity? Like there's no downtime in crafting steel parts or dense origium powder

[ocean cloak]

Only thing MKII can do is mine ferrium+old ore

And cost 10 energy instead of 5

[plucky plank]

uhmm i dont really have a clue i just copied a bp

[pliant breach]

Can I use wuling batteries in valley?

[ocean cloak]

Yeah but you shouldnt

Suppose to sell them for credit

[pliant breach]

Oki

[quiet hemlock]

Greetings Edministrators. I absolutely suck at reclamation algorithm. I will be asking about The Factory. But I also know that to Expand The Factory I have to first crash the stock market. Is the "how to crash the stock market" something to ask here, or in Help

[high mural]

Yes and no

[quiet hemlock]

I also don't know material craft distribution, if only highest tiers should be produced, how to increase development of settlements ...

[high mural]

Cause you either have to manually transfer or do the transfer that takes 1 hour

[ancient zinc]

I suggest depot must be in ur priority list to max

[shrewd grotto]

if you click on the grinding unit or steel unit you can see if it's constantly crafting something. if not, then you either need more shredding units for the originium powder or fitting units for the steel parts/shredding units for the ferrium powder

[quiet hemlock]

I suck at base building

[high mural]

Buy low sell high

[high mural]

We got blueprints

[unique nebula]

how do i get ferrium ore?

[high mural]

Mines

[quiet hemlock]

I studied economics and it was stupid

[crimson inlet]

I give you, my wuling factory min-maxxed

[high mural]

Buy low and set high on friends world

[ancient zinc]

Yes yes YES

[unique nebula]

i dont see it anywhere im level 18 rn so am i too low?

[high mural]

I studied eco

[serene nest]

add friends, use the "Friend's Price" button to find the best per item profit

[quiet hemlock]

I know but that's the hard part over with. I don't know how, or what types there are, what recipes should be prioritized, stock market crashing

[high mural]

Today's price looks good

[ancient zinc]

Imagine if it was Wuling

[serene nest]

don't think of it as stocks, think of it as arbitrage once you have enough friends

[high mural]

Nothing you just need upgraded stock redistribution

[crimson inlet]

I wish wuling got this prices man

[serene nest]

you wan tto buy and sell on the same day to reinvest the profit into upgrading the distribution center to be able to buy more items/day

[crimson inlet]

instant millionare

[high mural]

I would 100% use it for artificing

[quiet hemlock]

I'm logging off endfield for the day anyways so uhhh I should probably come back to ask tomorrow

[high mural]

Gl

[ancient zinc]

Also elastic limit at Wuling is 15/15

[quiet hemlock]

Stock redistribution was the "sell item get credits" part?

[high mural]

Yes

[crimson inlet]

I thought it was 100?

[plucky plank]

uhmm i have 50 originium powder and the sandleaf powder is used instantly inside the grinding unit

[crimson inlet]

since refresh count is at 50

[quiet hemlock]

I believe I had heard batteries were good at crashing the stock market

[high mural]

50/100

Every day

[high mural]

I think your confusing infra station and stock

[quiet hemlock]

For now I'm focused on MSQ (just finished the Meeting Yvonne part), exploring every inch of the map for tech trees, and planting mining machines (though still unpowered) across the world

[high mural]

Stock is something you can buy limited of everyday

[quiet hemlock]

I will come back tomorrow, then

[high mural]

While batteries are something your production will affected

[shrewd grotto]

wait is the packaging unit constantly crafting stuff? or is there a bit of downtime inbetween each HC battery?

[high mural]

It's in valley pass

Unless you haven't gotten to that point

Oh wait

Ferrium

[serene nest]

what's the highest price you guys have ever seen an item sold for? I've seen a couple in the 5200 range, anyone seen higher?

[plucky plank]

about 10 secs downtime

[high mural]

It's from oroginium science park

[high mural]

Till now I have sold for 415%

5.7k

[royal raft]

oh what originium ore gives electricity?

[high mural]

Yes

But tiny amounts

[serene nest]

5700 is really high. never seen that

[plucky plank]

dense originium powder takes longer, steel parts are at cap (50) constantly

[royal raft]

oh that's insane, i didn't know that haha thank you!

[high mural]

Friends

[serene nest]

I have 100, I think the high rolls are rare

[haughty coral]

the factory system is making me slow and behind, whats the optimal way to grind in factories?

[serene nest]

I don't even see a 5k+ every day

[high mural]

Np it's a small amount tho good for early but not that good in later useage

[high mural]

Weird to run into 5k+ lol I was shocked

[royal raft]

yeah i have to go with that for now sadly, i don't wanna stash everything to restart. ran out of everything when I went off line 🙁

[delicate lagoon]

can someone explain me how is this not enough water for the water plant in the right

its 3 pipes and they go to 3 sides through splitters

each one is connected to 2 machines

that plant is the only one running out of water

from the whole setup

[serene nest]

one pump can only supply 2 machines

it generates 60 water/min

[high mural]

Water gets less water the more you water the split water

[delicate lagoon]

i think i get it

[high mural]

[shrewd grotto]

yeah so if you want the hc batteries for that packaging plant to run at max capacity you're gonna need to produce the dense origium powder and steel at a 2:3 ratio of steel parts:dense origium powder meaning 2 fitting machines and 3 grinding machines for 1 HC battery packaging machine. I honestly don't think it's worth it cause it takes up so much space but who knows 🤷. The theoretical yield doesnt take into account the bottleneck from the dense origium powder

[delicate lagoon]

i had 1 extra splitter let me see

ill remove it

[serene nest]

of splitters doesn't matter if nothing is consuming it after the split

er, # of splitters

[plucky plank]

ahhhh alright appreciate it

thanks a lot

[zenith seal]

it splits evenly so you just need to rearrange the piping a bit instead of converging then split spamming like that

[safe jasper]

https://tenor.com/br7dymaQPGX.gif

[delicate lagoon]

i think i got it thanks guys

[chilly solstice]

did the stuff i gave you work out? at least for the lc batts?

[minor hill]

is it possible to make it more compact?

[fathom wedge]

I don’t know why you would do things like this, it forces you to have an excessive number of i/o slots. Also there’s a better carbon producing plant from wuling.

[minor hill]

i dont have it

idk where it is

but i have a ton of sandleaf so

[serene nest]

put one of the common wuling plants into a refiner, it'll start showing up in the recipe list after that

[random beacon]

i have min maxxed wuling i have the whole base empty gotta love it

cant wait for gilbertas banner I saved 30 pulls plus the 10 pull dossier gonna be huge

[chilly solstice]

if you were to rotate the grinding unit you may be able to get away with two less width... besides that i'm not sure

[strong shadow]

lets see... uhh its pretty compact already, id rotate the refinery near the middle to face right, move it one to the left, then rotate the grinder facing left

[fathom wedge]

My wuling base is awful, the amount of iron I need for batteries and it competes for production with it…

[fresh cradle]

I bet there is a billion ways to make it better but I'm just happy I made the purple tier pill recipe in one map self sustainable (minus the ferrium). never played a factory game before but this stuff is so much fun and now i can reach wuling in peace

[random beacon]

u need to make a wuling factory farm

for batteries make the LC wuling variant it will help your woes

need 5 extra ferrum ore from someplace lol

[fathom wedge]

If I swap to these it may help tbh

[strong shadow]

Lookin nice lol. It helps to produce some of the materials in the smaller outpost AICs too if you happen to have spare room. Those things are too small for anything big. so you could move the steel production elsewhere, and just port over the bottles, if you feel bothered to do so anyways XD

[random beacon]

its 1600 power per battery instead of the purple battery which gives only 1100

[strong shadow]

Wuling batteries are king, pretty cheap too

[fathom wedge]

Yeah, but I kinda want my magic dust for components right now :(

[chilly solstice]

is that too big to turn into a bp or would that be able to be copied? (though i could just build it similarly i suppose)

[strong shadow]

Realistically running the components at half speed is more than enough

you'd run out of stock tickets faster lol

[fresh cradle]

its 40x40 so you can copy it but there are probably a million better designs out there

[chilly solstice]

yeah i might augment that to have a more compact planter setup that doesn't require the unloaders if ur cool with it, i'll send u a ss if i do

[stoic coyote]

Buck A we already has one compact posted

[strong shadow]

Instead of using 3 sandleaf powder for the steel you could use one output into a shredder

[nova osprey]

nah wulling's produces carbon at same rate

[stoic coyote]

1 sand leaf = 3 sandleaf powder

[fresh cradle]

i was thinking that might be more space efficient but once i started this i got so invested to make it fit lol

[quartz socket]

Congrats! This is mine which is prob the smallest you can make it

[fathom wedge]

… wuling’s produces 2 belts per plant, sandleaf is 1 per plant.

[nova osprey]

can make it smaller

[nova osprey]

eh wait

[strong shadow]

idk man i see a lot of empty space XD

[nova osprey]

ah yes

[fresh cradle]

i thought about this too but my plant x2 machines dont need outputs so i put them in the top right so i would have to get 3 lanes into the bottom left machines to make that work

[nova osprey]

you're right

[stoic coyote]

1 Wuling plant Refined into 2 carbon

[zenith seal]

bring batts over from valley to jumpstart your wuling factory.

There isn't much to do in wuling however as its very limited by raw resources

[plucky plank]

yea a lot

thanks

again

[delicate lagoon]

Ok so my wuling base is done, 6 syringe and 12 battery. now how tf do i add components to this

[plucky plank]

u carried me

[fathom wedge]

I was looking at how long manual shipments could power my base for hahaha

[strong shadow]

an example of what I did, this is for my battery, but you can tile it like a checkerboard to get more room

[delicate lagoon]

without going negative income

[delicate lagoon]

to this

[slate minnow]

Is buck B cap worth it

[zenith seal]

a long while but that's a hassle and a half, wuling batteries are incredibly efficient anyway, just 1 is enough to power the whole base atm

[zenith seal]

decent as a transitioning mat for extra sales till you develop further

[slate minnow]

I dont see any bp for bucl B

[serene nest]

how do you zoom out far enough to take a screenshot of your entire outpost?

[fresh cradle]

oh yea that looks nice, ill use that for when i make the purple battery (which is what i plan to do next)

[zenith seal]

if you don't want to think much, just keep making blue batts and sell that till you can start making purp tiers

[spring linden]

hey guys, what is the minmax energy range for supporting max income too (aka 6ish Buck Capsule A). I'm trying to figure out if I can redesign for better battery support

[fresh cradle]

make a blueprint with all the depots of the main AIC,it will be 50x1, then try to place it

[delicate lagoon]

Can you somehow choose to only make 3 syringe

or only 9 battery

[latent junco]

How does my build look (ignore the carbon thing to the side thats for a different thing)

[vocal monolith]

All these farms and my AIC base full of planters just to sustain 2 xiranite forges 😭

[plucky plank]

should i be worried?

[delicate lagoon]

give it a bit more time

seems like you just made the base

[vocal monolith]

Check back in 30 minutes and see if number in depot go down

[delicate lagoon]

they take a bit to kickstart

[plucky plank]

alright

[zenith seal]

technically you can, just cut down 1 of the raw resources to make the ratios uneven and make it take longer to produce lol

[delicate lagoon]

Lets see...

Cuz i want some components in my base

[slate minnow]

Is there any bp for buck. B capsule

[delicate lagoon]

but i want to still be able to clear the outpost

[chilly solstice]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1461542035617091681

[vocal monolith]

I literally got no spaces left for the new consumables

[crimson inlet]

guys, wuling prices are crazy

i bought 1400 ish and sold it for 4501

[plucky plank]

this is for asia, can anyone help me recreate this

for eu

[strong shadow]

Ima making a mock up rn, tryin to see if i can tetris something for ya

[serene nest]

thanks

[vocal monolith]

I am running 8 plant farms for carbon
And 5 for sand leaf

[zenith seal]

why bushflowers?

[chilly solstice]

you should be able to just place them manually, we can dm if you want

[true nebula]

Use this instead? #1464237033852764339 message

[serene nest]

my outpost with buck a and citron c:

[zenith seal]

start using yazhen for carbon, it produces twice the carbon

[fresh cradle]

oh dw for me, i like figuring this stuff out myself, but i will take inspiration from that sandleaf shred system, looks nice and efficient

[spring linden]

Is Cryston component the best for now for gears?

[vocal monolith]

[quartz socket]

Bro i havent even got to wuling and my Factories in Valley 4 are not fully done, endless amount of quests & my sanity is full cause i forget to use it, this game is not for the employed 😭

[latent junco]

this is amazing

[plucky plank]

sc battery is not included in that one

[true nebula]

Oh hhh

It has sc too

[plucky plank]

i need both to get them up

yea im a bit slow

[true nebula]

I was wondering what the BAT was

[chilly solstice]

for that asia bp, make sure you have the listed facilities and we can figure it out. start with placing the 8 unloaders and we can work from there

[plucky plank]

alright ill dm u

[true nebula]

um it looks like the SC is independent of the CapB

just find a SC BP and you can paste them side by side

[mint vector]

Anyone got a link to some good wuling blueprints? I'm looking for maximum output xiranite batteries, 1 blue print using 1 forge and 1 blueprint using 2 forges. And also a xiranite component blueprint using 1 forge. Maybe one for the jincao drink or yaxhen syringe too, not that those can do maximum output cause of the lack of blue mines

[plucky plank]

ohh

smart

ill do that

im lazy

[fresh cradle]

i beat one of the bosses, the one that unlocks not-surtrs story and just have gone back to fk around with the factory so much i forgot to continue the story lol

[meager panther]

it's statistical, only 1/8 make it through normally, but even less for some reason in practice. There are a bunch of splitters that try to force it into the batteries. If the batteries stall because originium cubes are missing, then they will be sent directly through cause they can't get split to the side

[halcyon radish]

i just borrowed some from #1461542035617091681 yesterday, although i had to replicate them because there was no code for me

[unique nebula]

i have 13 of these in my backpack so why is it still showing that i have 0?

[zenith seal]

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You can have my old BP though there's probably better ones around

[shrewd grotto]

what im using rn EFO01eE7UUa7o24I0oAi8

[mint vector]

I'll take a look, thank you

[jaunty epoch]

you think well get wuling update on the 7th

[mint vector]

Awww thank you, what's this one for?

[mortal socket]

the depot doesnt have access to items in your backpack

[true nebula]

yo this BP might be cursed

[shrewd grotto]

wuling battery

[strong shadow]

something like this

[true nebula]

Make ferrium and send it nowhere

[shrewd grotto]

i just finished making it

[mint vector]

Using 1 forge or 2?

[plucky plank]

oh....

[strong shadow]

youd still need a sandleaf powder output for the fourth one

[shrewd grotto]

it uses 1 forge i just dupe the setup

[untold moon]

Does anyone know how to get the aic upgrade next to the wuling main PAC?

[shrewd grotto]

so im running 2x of this one blueprint

[quartz socket]

0 in depot, it checks your depot not your backpack

[zenith seal]

uhh which one is that?

[mint vector]

Perfectionnn thank you. I'm gonna run one for now I feel like I don't have enough components yet

But I really need some wuling stock maybe 2k components is enough for now

[fresh cradle]

you have 3 ferrium shredding per grinding here and it should be 2 i think, and you need 4 grinding total to make 2 stars then 2 bottles

[delicate lagoon]

wuling base came out cute

max upgraded it just to put everything together Q_Q

[zenith seal]

there should be a crate behind one of the buildings and a jump pad on it that takes you to it

[shrewd grotto]

i'll admit there's a chance you might need more sandleaf auto planters there's 2 included in the build but im not sure if t hat's enough (I have some more not included in the blueprint)

[zenith seal]

I hate how we have so much free space in it now lol

[latent junco]

apparently wuling cant handle it 😭

[minor hill]

there is a thing you can use to get up (on the back of the house)

[zenith seal]

yep, transfer from valley depot or just let it cough up once in a while

[latent junco]

what are yall doing to produce yazhen syringe c

[plucky plank]

should i be worried now

[strong shadow]

EFO011ea051Ae1UU34O7
Code for ya, the middle shredder is for sandleaf

[shrewd grotto]

probably yeah

[strong shadow]

and yuh youd need a sandleaf output for the fourth