#aic-factory
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oh it wont let me put anything down....it said they have their own stuff
fck this stupid shit factory gameplay

Behold a very not so good ratio Note i can get 18 but im out of ferrium and need to get more lvls for the explorationg thingy
less space efficient
towers yeah you gotta use their towers but the rest should be the same
fck this stupuid shit genshin gameplay
just gimme factory gameplay
"You can use blueprint from other people"
"Yeah no shit dogark devs"
Woah what’s the blueprint for that?
bane of my existence
guys what is recommended to build in wuling? my aic base, has expo +1 and depo +1
but you have the capability to easily add more
I feel like you're not understanding my goals here
alongside other builds
I'm not restricted by space, I'm restricted by my autism
oh youre right. It just made me reequip it to the hotbar.....weird lol
2 lc batteries and maybe a jincao drink
thank you
jesus cracktorio
how much maximum ores i can get when depot nodes are fully maxed out?
currently at 46k (3/3/2)
80k something
80k
is there like, a current BiS factory for Valley IV, all outposts? I know there's sites like endfieldtools and talospioneers, but they have several different "optimal" setups and some of them don't include the outposts
the "bis" is 3 hc battery + 3 buck capsule a production lines (= 18/min for both)
then whatever you want honestly, it doesn't matter
Thank you dear aic for giving me my first endfield trimmed medal, when it took me ages to fully complete an event and get trimmed medals in og arknights
aw man there's a medal grind
hi, may i ask, is batteries required for use in WuLing?
I want to note that 3 HC batteries is optional since there is a Ferrium shortage in Wuling, so it might be ideal to opt for 2 HC batteries so you have positive Ferrium gen in V4 to transfer over to Wuling 
Depends on if you want V4 or WL money more tho
you can sell them
Which batteries? lmao
for stockbills or credits?
stock
Some people are bringing blue batteries because they wanna fuel banks while they do their work, and Wuling batteries are used for Wuling money via trading
any batteries, not sure what to farm with factory
ok thank you
ok thank you
you can, but manualing factory stuff seems very tedious imo
The medals in endfield are much much easier than arknights,
only the wuling lc batteries tho
thanks!
Wdym "manualing factory stuff"? The only thing you manually do is go to Dijiang and transfer several thousands of Ferrium every couple days
Are there any recommended blueprints for the hub? Asia server
are you sure it's every couple of days? seems like a daily thing to me (though i never tried it myself)
@void hornet FYI in case you missed it. Both are up to preference
hmm is there a blueprint for wuling that has following
- lv 70 gear farm
- power supply
- somewhat supply bill generating
currently the blueprints are either super tryhard to maximize efficiency, but i wanna try find something that i can upgrade my base with
anyone know what's the max yield you can get for ferrium ore after the regional level is all maxed out and every mineral bed is unlocked in valley IV
if you turn on meta transfer for Ferrium, Ferrium usage goes down to 5/min
1500/60 min= 25/min yield
ah so that's why you sacrifice a hc battery line
You can do it sooner if you wanna reduce how much time it takes per refill, but refilling takes at most like 3-5 minutes. I just turn on a video in the background and do it aimlessly
fair
this mode is so boring bro 😭
Where i got my ginseng hmmz
yoooo thanks a lot
yeah lmao, it's either sacrifice V4 money or sacrifice WL money. Atm, all my facilities in V4 are maxed so I'm prioritizing WL. It's also the only place to get artificing mats
bruh it's only been a week since release and you've finished the endgame mode
its not endgame unfortunately. the enemies in it are level 45 max bro
the last boss is level 45
i mean endgame as in
Yeah, it's not really endgame lmao
that's what you do after everything else is done
It's the only thing to really do after all the content's dried up
also finally this is done too
well yeah ive done pretty much everything else
aside from some small side quests
i don't feel so good
That's a mood. I'm just choosing to take it slowly now and play other games now
ok making it vertically asymmetrical saves 1u, which is a pretty good optimization imo
not even maxed out 
Why are you spending so much on gear? Artificing? lmao
If it had tarkov pve level of depth, would be fire
there's nothing else to spend on
the outpost doesn't gain enough money for me to sell my sstuff help
wdym
Might be the trickiest mining spot
do the tower defense stuff, it boosts income
i sell and produce more than they could provide
oh i guess i could collect all the aureylene
ah
You need to jump to the cliff near the teleporter
I still need to buy out my facility upgrades, but I don't really need the space or the extra 10 depot busses so I feel that
What are y'all using your amethyst on?
Buck C
Cause I feel like after building HC and Buck A, I don't see a use for amethyst
Buck C is free money
is there any way that we can produce xiranite faster?
nope, you get two forges and that's it
😭
What does buck C need again?
lol. lmao even. You need to stop the production of one of your factories
you can check item recipes by going into the esc menu and into the database
amethyst has basically no use other than cryston in late-endgame
If you use metatransfer you can produce Xiranite 750/hr (12.5/min), which doesn't solve any of your shortage issues but you'll gain a net positive amount of Xiranite if you're at 60/min usage 
does cryston have a use though
ahh right
purple gear for milestone missions 
i mean you only need 4 for that
you only need 200 comps for that anyways
i use it just to make these 2 and xiranite component actually...
Hey, I didn't say it was a long lasting goal
Yazhen doesn't take Xiranite tho wut
You must be making double of something or you're making xiranite water bottles
finally
i made 2 battery and 1 component
my first level 4 camp
yeah I'd turn off one battery lmao
you need comps for gear
ok I feel a bit dumb because it turns out that you can just use 1 depot input per line and it ends up being more space efficient
also this is a lot more modular
best thing to do for wuling is 1 battery, 1 heal and 1 comp
right.. thanks for advice 
What's the best thing you can produce to fill delivery boxes? I was thinking amethyst components?
carbon dust

Can i dm someone about wujin base building i'm getting absolutely stupid over here overthinking it
they don't matter
Ooo ok, didn't think of that one! Thank you
just fill it up with whatever lol
Literally whatever you have an excess of. I personally use Sandleaf powder
I don't wanna use ferrium/amethyst that could be going into batteries ngl
whats the max yield for originium in valley 4? i at 460
They may bit higher the more rare your items
if you have the depot limit of that item for it to be automatically doing that then you can
after a while you'll be drowning in crap to fill em with, just use whatever you have an excess of
560
Just make 2 Forges, 1 xiranite battery, 1 xiranite comp, 1 syringe
We don't really have the resources to make much else
Do note that you might have to do some Dijiang transferring for Ferrium
im at 560
Are the blueprints only for PAC in the hub?
Because the valley 4 one (sub pac ) is so much smaller than the pac
Or can u use them in any pac if the size is enough?
the game won't let you deplete it completely unless you intentionally do so anyways
wtf pls teach me bricked at 460
regional development
but my exploration level is 11, maybe that's why
QoL upgrade
ability to mirror facilities with water ports
like you can decide which side to have the water ports on
nah, Wuling is maxed at 6. You're thinking of V4
see that's the part im stupid at, a xiranite comp is that the 60/min blueprint, if i make syringe, and xiranite battery where do i generate power?
he asked for v4
he said valley 4
you can't get 560 in wuling
can carbon be put through a moulding unit? if so what does it give? cause i copied someone's code but apparently i'm missing the auto-production formula
oh, I'm stoopid then 🥀
?
@karmic coralnah but do help out i'm the stupid one
hey chat how can i make the conveyor only send 1 battery at a time in my heat generator ? cause control port just completely stops the conveyor and otherwise it just unload every ssingle battery in my storage into the generator
is there any originium ore veins in the quarry?
just let the thermal bank clog
deleted my entire base and only left the batteries but still insufficient power.. jesus christ I want to play the stupid game not this bullshit
you can put them to make pipe longer (pipe have lenght max)
@karmic coral i can make this one #1465737008017313862 in main base
genius
1 thermal bank can never eat enough to deplete your battery production
but then i don't have battery syringe or gear
The pipe bridge, splitter, converger work too

hmm didnt test xd
I don't have sand leaf rn and my main aic was kinda productionless so I did little bit of everything 
1 Xiranite battery+1 Xiranite comp = 60 Xiranite/min usage
2 Forges generate exactly 60 Xiranite/min
You'll be net neutral for Xiranite unless you halt one of their productions
As for Xiranite batteries, you can just make something like this, but replace 2 of them with protocol stashes. The way the belt functions will send a battery to a bank every 40 seconds, which is the exact amount of time for a battery to run out
FYI, these BPs are unoptimized. Yazhen generates 2 carbon, so use those instead of Sandleafs
can i do all this in 1 base?
Probably, but I make Syringes in the sub-PAC
bruh
Too much power 4 thermal, wuling just need 2
why specifically in my backpack
uh does anyone know what to farm in jinyu valley aic i am so lost on what to do there
yes
Can someone tell me the difference between building factories in different areas?
Like the valley 4 one appears much smaller ( sub pac ) than the hub ( pac) are the shared blueprints common or only for specific areas?
Reading comprehension check failed
As for Xiranite batteries, you can just make something like this, but replace 2 of them with protocol stashes.
I have to clear out 20 slots
@karmic coral thank you i'll try
there's no difference except space
quite literally empty rn
are u by any chance on eu and can share bp
asia sadly
just more space
Alr
Quick question: should I worry about theoretical data being on the red?
if i'm understanding wuling right, i'm basically maxing out xiranite usage with 1 battery production line and 1 gear production line, is that right
absolutely
yes
Atleast one thing is being produced and used properly 
depends
Try to make the both data same
you're using more than you're producing/mining
I have theoretical data in the red in wuling, but thats because I'm making 10.5 batteries and 1.5 components per minute
no i know that i meant, what is that guy's thing that's red
Yup. I do suggest halting comp production for a while to generate a couple of Xiranite water bottles for exploration, but that's basically correct
What's the most compact way to place feedpack loop planter?
you're using more originium than you mine and using more xiranite than you produce
Like this one I am using as much as bottles produced in the same time 
either delete some factories or setup more mines/xiranite production
if this is wuling then xiranite is capped at 60/m and originium at 360/m
If both theoretical and current data matches properly it means u are efficient in that thing 
if you're at that then start deletingu
I already rigged all orig mines on wuling and got 2 forges, I need to stop that gear production
nice route
Sucks cause I got a nice blueprint with everything setup
what to farm in wuling jingyu factory?
cuz my main aic already doing battery /syringe/component
hang on, I have a decent Syringe bp. I'm not sending my Xiranite stuff tho cuz that's pretty unoptimized
nothing, you don't have the resources to do anything in wuling
well you can make more plants ig
wuling is just weird, you'll have red theoretical data by default because the syringes consume 120 ferrium per min and there's only 90 in the map
but thats not really a concern
Ginseng
I don't understand why the current data is ok but theoretical is red tho, but I'm too small brained anyway

so basically main aic doing everything while sub just there?
yessir
whether or not theoretical being red is bad just depends on your setup
it is always bad
just manageable or nah
thanks for the help
theoretical output is red when you sometimes use half input
Means it's not efficient but working
U have to worry if your current data is on red 
not bad, just means some machines aren't working at 100% efficiency and sometimes you do that deliberately
Hello guys just a small suggestion to post depot less blueprint for wuling since many users don't know what to do to get more stocks at the start
Ah well that seems fine to me, I'm not in a rush, I'll just let the factory do enough to gear up my other 3 teammates (last rite is already at max) and then I'll just turn off gear and let it only run for batteries. Thanks guys!
Where I can find xiranite blueprint?
Like Idk if this is gonna be efficient once I get sandleaf for this to start but as long it works it's fine 
Remember to make a Yazhen farm and plug in the water for both facilities
Syringe: EFO01u1I61iE920a3AoOU
Water Farm: EFO0136u96AO0Eauu0579
As a reminder, I'm not sending Xiranite stuff cuz my stuff is unoptimized
i don't see why you would do that unless you're forced to like the wuling syringes
Nothing found
Chat how's this
why wouldn't you want it at 100% productivity
When u play main mission they give u stock that can buy depot
U need area 2 expansion to unlock depot for wuling that costs 160k stocks
I am level 52 n completed all missions except wuling outpost
Just don't bother seeing mine 
Now I see, thanks
I will stash all of things on my main aic once I get sandleaf and start my valley outpost power plant 
here's my example
hyperminmaxxing wuling you only need 5.75 syringes (the 115 ferrium/min) and 10.5 batteries to reach the hourly outpost bill.
this means you can feed the excess 7.5 xiranite into 1.5/min components.
Theoretical data will be in the red because both the battery building and the gearing build are running at 75% and 25% respectively but thats by choice
This is so unefficient wth 
hey as long as it's working
ahh i see
maybe i'm just looking at 100% productivity without being limited
That's what I did with my main base just gotta do something till I can produce something useful with my main aic I rushed upgrades 
you infact don't want to do this if you're not forced to
is this supposed to be like this?
Too much thermal
building in advance xdd
great, now i just need to remember what i wanted to put where
last time i tried that i can't even place it outside wuh
what's going on here
Yeah I somehow had tons of thermals so just placed them 
the depot is bigger than the zone
how
did you upgrade in the wrong order somehow
it's like that naturally i think
anyone with max valley regional level can send the sources to see what im missing at
oh now i see
it can also be red for 'all in one' prints thats specifically for building materials
like you don't need 30/min amethyst parts it could just be 7.5/min and still be fine
yes you can put factory buildings outside the zone but you can't build belts
1080 ferrium, 560 originium
tbh just click on the mining nodes to see which you are missing
also you need to be regional development level 11
no no not that
what upgrades and mission i have left to do
Should I laugh chat 
ahh i misread
just upgrade all the owls, rabbit mascot guy, depots
and do the missions
i have already connected every mine
yeah i need the mission list to see if im missing anything
mm i don't have the list, maybe someone else can help
RDL 11 LET'S GO!!!
or you can try google
do u have rdl 11?
i have 12
use this is comparison
welp
yep this thank u
if you have a lower number you're probably missing that
looks like theres some "others" im missing at
@raw hemlock If you want my unoptimized Xiranite facilities, just drop replace the Sandleafs with Yazhen and figure out how to save space cuz Yazhen generates 2 Carbon
EFO01eE7U8a2U042oAi8
maybe pin this
wuling only has 200 org ore and 90 fer ore yield? so less
what logistic level should i be to be able to buy artificing crystal bottle thing..
360 for originium
cuz i dont see it in the current shop
ah my powerlines got cut, no wonder something feels odd
what lv are you are now the max lv is only 2\
if its still not there and you have distribution lv2, have you completed the artificing quest
Is this enought, or can get better?
that's all you can do yes
Does RDL11 unlock any new Ferrium nodes, or just upgrade existing ones? I can't find any I'm missing...
it upgrades
Its red because my xeranite water machine get limit
Are there any blueprints for the Valley that are set out for specifically leveling my headquarters? Currently I have a full setup for all alrounder stuff and future sandleaf production, but I don’t have a specific setup for efficient item production for headquarter deliveries yet
ohh
honestly just make batteries / capsules that the outposts buy at your level
How tf are u supposed to get more iron in Wuling??
welcome to the 90/m ferrium town (you can't)
Theres literally a SINGLE resource spot for it
oh ye there's that
you can't, you're hard limited to 90/min or 115/min with metastorage transfer
for the moment
Hahahahah real, thats the pain in this place, of course get better next update
21k ferium lasts for 3 days btw
Okay, I’ll set that up then. I have Wuling unlocked but didn’t progress there yet, should I unlock that factory first and then focus on fixing up my current factories efficiency, or move on as fast as possible to gather higher level stuff faster
How much production is necessary/which plot is the best to build said farms? I assume the main hub as it has the most space for specifically delivery items, and others for excess items/power/batteries?
you build in all of them
Meta storage is auto ,right?
do what you want bro, it's a game, if you wanna max valley4 first do that, if you wanna do both at the same time do that
there's not much content to catch up on anyway
metastorage will dupe items for transfer as long as you have a production running of that item
so its not really sipping in your depo
chat if you have 3 xiranite depot unloaders with 60/min xiranite prod. it will split evenly 20/20/20 for each unloader right?
wuling time!
just got 312% on my friends elastic stocks, what is the max you guys have seen so far?
i think i saw one online with 700?
dunno if it's fake tho lol
700 something
not 700 whole
it's probably possible in theory
if you're sending xiranite back to the depo via cache then each belt will send 30/min everytime the storage cache sends xiranite to the depo and then stop. So no but yes?
someone was flexing 1300 here yesterday
ive had 600 multipletimes
the bad part about rushing to wuling is that there's no ferrium deposits yet 😔
does this mean i gotta produce more or nah
w8 where
1000%
there is basically the exact amount you need
i thought i looked everywhere :/
that's definitely something. regardless,thanks for answering
almost the exact amount
man the highest I've seen is like 430% or smth :((
that's just how the stock market rolls, just get more friends ig
no need to grab a relay to bring over there you have the range to just place it and it will connect with the AIC
you get 115 per min with meta transfer nd you need 120 for 6 yazhen syringe/jinzhao drink
I'm alr capped on friends so now it's all just luck
does anybopdy have a good setup for the final defnse of temporary shelter? I have all the turrets unlocked
30 minutes of transfering over 40k ferium feeds you for 6 days btw
dumb question, but do higher tier batteries give higher power outputs?
... huh.
well thing is I'm now ferrium neutral in valley IV so I can't rlly do manual transfer anymore
oh my i'm actually dumb, i even have it powered already wtf
other than this one time I still have excess but does that even count-
lowkey same but idk why it still excesses it somehow
dementia kicked in
I've been massively upgrading and I've been thinking of upgrading to SC batteries, so... yeah
ive had neutral since like, yesterday and somehow it went from 4k to 78kl
i've been transferring from dijang soo much 😭
so i just transfered a bunch over to wuling
Check it in the thermal bank recipes to see them all at once.
how does that work lol, well I guess I'll sleep tn and see if ferrium will magically spawn or not
i guess maybe some small clog from belt timings made it so its 1079 ferium per minute or sum
every once in a while
does anyone know when next patch update is? im curious when wuling will expand for more resources or how long we will be stuck with this
there will be a new place in wuling when gilberta comes. is what the wind is saying
is she after yvonne?
In Wuling, i've 3 farms rn, 1 wuling Battery, 1 Xiranite one, and 1 Yazhen Syringe one.
what other farms should i make there?
you cant
lol
not enough resources for anything else
thats why i was asking when wuling will expand
Hi can I build Wuling structure in the Valley ? Like the Xira Pylon or hydro system and other things like that ?
Now i feel stupid to expand it. though that's how i got depot so it's not that bad..... i think
jincao drink is one you'll want for stock bills (idk if that's at lvl 2 outpost or not)
i mean you have nothing else to do with the credits unless u spend em on resource consumables in stock market, i have everything maxed now so nothing to spend on
the 12th btw, cant wait
how the hell does this work
yazhen syringe and jincao is same yield no?
whats this?
it costs the same to make, why would it sell for more
they use the same resource and sell at the same price
endgame content
Anyone got a BP for thermal banks? Bc my thermal banks keeps running out of power-
The problem is that it needs Ferrium bottle.... and.. well.... it's scarce af
so no difference with selling the juice or syringe
and i'm also making syringes, so there's that
syringe is also a better healing item if you're skill issueing,which I am
i made both farms, but now i'm realising i coulda just made the same of the same one lol
yes, we cant do much until we get more ferrium. however with the new depots being movable, the potential for wuling endgame factories is insane
True, welp, let's wait for the next patch
It keeps getting annoying that I have to keep putting batteries in my thermal banks so anyone got a BP so they can keep running while also making them-?
What should I setup on my main base and 3rd Sub-base (Power Plateau)?
I just only having Buck Capsule A, HC Battery and Seeds for both of them
#1461542035617091681 has several
the reactor crucible being able to process two different recipes at once and output two different fluids is gonna make some very wild prints
i also do both in case the farms reach cap in the future
depending on what new intermediate we need to make
the machines also being able to output their inputs can lead to interesting designs
guys is max limit of cable pylons 12 in valley IV ? does this ceiling rises ?
it should be different per area but it should be in the hundreds
U have the links to them? Bc there's too many to scroll to look for them- and idek what the name of what I want is called
anywhere i can get sandlief seed
all this for 4 TPBs
are you looking for valley or wuling

there's a limit....
no way to raise it beyond 12 ?
i mean, i had no idea that there's a limit
yes so im assuming valley, the first region
Ye
It's Regional
do you have a sub PAC unlocked yet?
Also try connecting at maximum cable length to limit relay count
im level 30 right now, what stuff should i be producing in my factory? rn im just producing stuff to sell for bills


that's fine
also make bombs if you don't have them yet
are you new?
Kinda
Is there something in wuling to sell that isn't ferrite based?
do you have ferrium ore deposits set up yet?
Oh yeah I do
batteries
EFO011ea01iEeAUo34O7
? Its either ferrite or skyforge stuff
go to blueprints and copy paste that
yup
Alrighty
Does Buck C have any use if making 18 Buck A and HC valley battery?
it gets you a bit more extra money
Haven't unlocked
Yea so not really
you can make it to prevent amethyst from getting filled at night, it's a loss if you're micromanaging your products though
then you got to keep playing mq until you hit power plateau
18 buck a and battery caps the hourly bill so not really
Seriosly everything you can sell is ferrite or xarintiun?
just barely caps it
yes in wuling
and that is if you aren't using 5 thermal banks
Ohh...
if you're using 5 thermal banks you aren't capping, but slightly 
How do you open aic resource usage page?
Valley 4 is complete 🙂
i came across this and i'm debating just deleting my entirety of today and yesterday's manual progress to get this
on the menu the center down yellow button beside the aic plan
three ways:
- go to PAC and press protocol management
- press on your PAC in 2d mode
- press AIC report from the watch menu
@hexed spruce it won't let me type it all out for some reason- I cant do the numbers at the end of it
can you just copy paste?


this game is wild
- finally got like 20k wujin credit
- upgrades node -12k
- accepts delivery mission +20ish k
- upgrades restribution to lv 2
- broke again
- stock trades with left over creds
- back to 85k (wait i started with 20k and upgraded node + restrock)
not being able to flip or mirror blueprints is kindof a pain, now i've gotta go to my my AIC, move stuff around so i can place this, and move the seed unit
or could just wait until you upgrade your PAC again
the total hourly bill in v4 is 119,532 bills per hour (max everything and appropriate operators)
18 buck a and 18 batteries with 5 banks is 119,700 bills per hour
No im on ps5
You can rotate, but yea no flipping, i would want that as well
even with 5 batteries you're still above the hourly cap with some extra
chat is there anything to do with the 20 excess originium in valley IV?
oh wait yeah you're right, by 0.04 items per minute
Refine as is
i got it the other way around
idk. but just make sure its this screen
pretty sure there's a way top connnect to your PS5 with mobile app and then copy paste that way
you’ll need to find an optimal way to copy paste them anyways, you’ll likely use a lot of blueprints
different server ig
code could from from asia

in the process of completing every simulation this is pain
any recommended layout with these towers that works for majority of the auto defense missions?
Doesn't work
depends on the mission
What's maximum transfer TTV amount?
I have a question I was following a google doc guide for AIC progression turns out the blueprint codes dont work, can code expire?
make sure you arent mixing up O and 0, but tbh you need to figure out how to copy paste somehow
capitalization matters as well
yeah u prob made typo
Surge tower spam some beam towers and 1 to 2 sentries works for all of em
you can put all cc towers to get maximum slowing, which helps a lot. it's usually not necessary to go that crazy though, then nade turret to blow them up. sentries on pathways where there's heavies.
gas + nade is a strong combo
Like i said, pretty sure PS5 mobile app lets you copy paste from phone
prob an asia code, or a NA code. they arent cross region
I don't understand why my power is so inconsistent. It'll go from 1k overflow, to underpowered (usually only for a split second) then back up to 1k overflow... This makes me nervous.
send a screenshot of your factory
your battery production isnt consistent then
can't diagnose without taking a look
you are using too many resources that you dont have or something is mixed up
Whats the best operator for infra station

may i ask, did you max your local depot thingy for 80k local depot, mine is still small 18k
O.O
If your power has issues that means something in your production for battery can't keep up.
Show charts for raw resources and batt production
gyatttt
gang done just scammed the entire market
What the actual hell
How the heck its that price
Whats the best operator for infra station
1000%
chen when you're gathering resources, then any operator with "technology" when you trade. Xaihi and Ember have technology
Best i got is 240% and its usually like +60% lmao
this isn't mine, it's a video. Mine's around 40k rn with all lvl 3 depots(i think all are lvl 3)
damn you about to be rich
This is current resources (I just hit RDL11 and haven't tried to utilize new production yet)
Is there an operator that activates all 3?
Imagine that with -90%
honestly, the percent values are very much bait
is there 2 depot ? or moore ?
Why?
you're missing amethyst and ferrium ore nodes, you should cap at 240/min and 1080/min
if you have ~800 buy and then a ~4500 sell, you make more than that 1072%
but the percentage is lower
Yes there's 3 depots total in valley 4
its compared to baseline, not to ur current price
I know, but I can't find them anywhere...
the gain is 3531 per item, 4600-800 is 3800 gain
?
Well, I know where the Ame is (Quarry), but no idea on the Ferrium
That's 500% still at base price
have you done wulfguard's story quest? there's 5 ferrium nodes locked behind it
it depennds on which PAC
yeah, i just mean that even if the number looks insane the gain isn't as huge as it looks, considering there are lower % that give more
Infra station
That's 350 vs 3500
not to my knowledge, maybe ardelia or gilberta, but the rest definitely no
oh god it's 2 AM
Pretty sure I have... I did most of it, at least, will have to check. This is my main power plant line, can't quite see all of it, but it's pretty standard?
y'all factories looks so orderly
Hmmm, actually it looks like my sandflower output might be too low...
OK i got it working from my ps app lol
introducing: the world's most inefficiently designed packed origocrust 20 originium/min consumed factory. 😭 ts got me cackling
it is, you're splitting a shredder in 3. shredders are always 2
All starter factories look like that so ur fine
research right side
not sure, i know Laevatain is all three for the Refugee camp, Chen is two of them for Infra
You need the research
expand your basic AIC module,or smth
yeah it's the research
wdym? I thought they were 3?
it's 1 sandleaf to 2 powder
is there a class above cryston components because holy shit this was a thing to plan.
literally just move this and then you can deposit in the PAC on that side 😭
is it this one
1 sandleaf 3 powder 100%
thing is this is actually just the last piece to my endgame build,I just did not make it compact at all bcs I'm genuinely too lazy to think
??
I HAVE DONE IT
no,it's the t button on pc, top left beside that one
screw me, time to go fix everything
how does one get 1080 ferrium ore yield
Every single Mining node in Valley 4
One node is locked behind Wulfgard quest
lvl 11 regional development
for ore purity
and this
i'm never understanding this when i need to make modifications again
Lol im done with my valley build as well and i still have space space in all my subpacs to slot in a planter loop or 3
that looks fine then, hows your steel section then
just delete everything then
me when 0 power
yeah that's why I didn't make it compact bcs there's genuinely just all the space in the world for nothing at all
Thats why you keep spare batts to jumpstart
literally the thing running my whole region
well,atleast I'm using my 20 originium/min for something
i dont wanna imagine a blackout with no batteries in stock
PSA when you get splitters for power, this in expandable to how ever long you want
do you actually just get stuck atp
this is the minimum sized HC Valley Battery (purple), I make 18/min (x3), 1 per outpost, 2 of the outposts can be minimum size, 1 is maxed out,
Outpost L x1: EFO01Iao8U17eU9735o08
Outpost S x2: EFO01893ui0AUi12aUI73
making HC batts are so fucking convoluted i don't think i keep more than 1 packager runninga t once
hahaha same i have 1 battery thing feeding 4 that powers everything
but i had like 4.7/4.6 so i put 2 gens with Orginim going into them for the last 100 power 😄
or you have to turn off every facility nd only make batteries
i think so if even lots of originium heat sinks dont work
conveyers still work, but everything else is shut down
yeah
sounds like an absolute nightmare
how much power are you using?
okay thanks
i think you can somewhat alleviate it by saving the stuff you built as a blueprint and reuse them later
oh god, transport lines can't interesect, this will be interesting
havent tried it though
there's a research for conveyer bridges
here's my ridiculously convoluted design which keeps all 4 TPBs powered with HC batts
its locked behind an upgrade
No, I figured it out... There were bus outputs feeding sandleaf, but I didn't have enough planter/picker loops to feed the stash.
ahh
When taking the screenshots I noticed that the plant belts were running slow, and was like "oh... huh, there's the problem" haha
bro i do not want to fix all my machines rn, i could be saving 200 power though 
What should i use Originium for in Wuling when there isn't any Ferrium?
i've mini-fied HC Valley Batterys, uses 26x24 space #aic-factory message
lemme see
just make more power banks 👺
4.8k
iirc xiranite battery uses originium
the more batteries you use, the less you get to sell
what in the
100% efficient valley 4 will use 5 HC Batteries
/min or 5 thermal banks
how are your stash and thermal banks connected
are batteries even worth it to make for selling
yes
where do i get yazhen plants to sustain the factory?
very much so
it's just directly from packager to tpb
augh
yazhen is found around the waterside, but if you find jincao first they're basically the same thing
or be me and rate limit one of your banks to 0.2 batteries/min 
i'm on JP server
5 thermal banks, you're making 18/min
other than the healing potency of yazhen syringe being better than jincao drinks but that doesn't matter
i am playing with fire here lmao
so no bp code for me
but i need yazhen solution not jinaco solution
Is it normal for my self sustaining all base to deplete my ores fully ? Like originium ?
at outpost level 1 this is true, just keep looking. yazhen is typically found in more open areas i found
yeah, helps to get higher quality products over time
how much do i need in a single seed picking unit to sustain?
you're supposed to be net neutral(same theoritical yield and expenditure)
just pick one, then start duping it before you use it
you can make a seperate infinite plant farm nd just get a stack
Figures
Like my originium went from 18k to 15k while i got 1000 batteries
but for minimized you need 10 on a planting unit
anyways i got my HC batteries, i got my Cryston components
it's also 2:30 in the morning
i'm going to sleep
oh wait that? that's not normal. it should stay the same number. what are your yields and usages
goodnight fielders
but it only gives 1 seed i think?
let me check
You’ve gotta be kidding me on the ferrite amounts in wuling…
a plant gives a seed a seed gives 2 plants
300/min yield and 338/min usage
1 seed, 2 plants grow
waitingg
😵💫
it's because you're lacking ore purity/ missing some ore veins
ore purity is from levelling regional development so that can't be helped but
why draining 40k water take hours on this game
not sure if your base is self sustaining then, which ore is this, originium?

On wuling I've got all of them
its alr 1 hour and its still 27k / 40k
Build more pumps, 3 pumps takes it down to a few hours
Early game ore
so originium, the orange one
in wuling you're supposed to have 360 tho hmm
Yeah
i alr build 4 pump
p sure this is v4
how come these two belts arent going into my inputs, theyre getting clogged?

what are you making with it?
nvm ik y I have max steel parts
originium being at the center of the game
the real valuable resource:
Hmmm in wuling I'm using it to make sc batteries which help me run my all base, i had a lot of originium powder i just noticed, due to me using two shreeders to increase production thus it started clogging
Woops, made some canned food factories to make use of amethyst and went over. Guess it's time to go mine the quarry
what do i build in this game i dont get it
Oh wait, my amethyst in Quarry is already mining... Which ones am I missing? wtf?
Is this enough for two thermal banks ?
making sc batteries? make wuling batteries, you need the ferrium for bottles for meds, so you can actually deplete the stocks
Oh snap, one entire section of ame lost power somehow
and no you do not have all of the originium node points activated, make sure none of your networks got disconnected if you really did get all nodes
My all base is making wuling batteries
I've 304 of those
Me who silently transferring materials I need to make BIG JUMP at Wuling
dont think you'll have enough production output to match the stocks gained
anyone know if there is a way to check your playtime on akef?
yeah, i did that too, brought a stack of batteries to jump start my factory 
Not even unlocking Wuling HUB upgrade I was already making batteries
damn, honestly that's a plan 
Would it help if i also put mining rigs on the few low purity mines as well?@nova osprey
why the belts keep overlaping when i try to connect to the second port? no matter how far i go from the first belt
damn you're going to run out eventually
click once above the first belt, it will make a pivot point
because your other belt is a closed loop
or idk
left click on every corner cuts
yeah
wait bruh 
sadly
3 hours for a semi-decent base 
when you confirm endpoint, you can continue from that endpoint. you can do this to prevent overlapping too btw
ah, level 2 for wuling lets you turn in drinks... but its same cost as syringes...and i aint got that much metal
2/2 cap atm anyways
👍
Do we have a map for all AIC Index locations? Because the interactive map doesn't seem to provide this information
anyone have like a blueprint for a whole factory? would love that tbh
Index locations?
saw one on reddit for entire vally 4
btw how are people saying there's 240 pulls. I'm done with everything except the few chests here and there and so far my currency amounts to 150 pulls.
Is there some secret stash somewhere or are they being disingenuous and that 240 actually includes both limited and standard.
my build kinda equals out atm
offical subreddit?
i don't recall anyone saying 240, i saw 120+ but not 240
alright, i've created the end-all guide for valley 4 100% efficiency setup, can someone help me review it so i can clarify anything that doesn't make sense? https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466125655941976135
damn okay
Hmmm... What can I use 180 steel for, when I don't have any originium to use with it...
yeah its called like 4,170,000 HC Valley Credit A Day Factory Setup i think
your indexes are already on the global map though
How does one lack originium
Master teach me your ways I have way too much of ts
Batteries and the purple tier healing item use kind of a lot.
stockpile regional transfer
can i only do a single material at a time?
can i not do like eg 450 buckflower + 450 sandflower at the transfer?
Yea ik but like the sheer amount of ori mines on this map is insane
does anyone have an efficient explosives factory blueprint for asia?
lowkey just base building the whole day as I finished 100% exploration in both maps🤣
you got all orundumbs?
oroberyl*
even with this ticked, I can't see them
if you go to your spaceship you can manually mass-transfer items over as a 1-time thing
from exploration, yes but kinda lazy to do simulations and training
env monitoring is a wuling thing, it should be on by default though, it's the round rectangles
woww, that's crazy
i havent 
how many explosives do you need? i made a super simple one, let it run for an hour and had like 1k explosives, should last for a long time
dead corner stacking
These things ye?
me
yes those are your indexes
Thx
honestly though? probably the best layout until you max stuff out and try to shrink everything
Hybrid power 🤪
( don't have the ferrium yet to switch both battery factories over, but they complement each other nicely and build a surplus )
sorry if its a dumb question, but how do i do that
i already maxed the control nexus and all the rooms, if it helps
Finally everything is complete, now I've higher ore yield now 🤣
bag -> shift click items from depot to your bag -> click switch depot -> quick deposit
ahhhh got it
thank you ❤️
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465179177220050975 3 of these on main factory(fully expand), https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465963332539387954 one on each sub PAC( connect 5 thermal banks out of the 18 production lines) nd you should only be left with 20 origocrust/min and 240 amethyst/min which you can figure out what to do with yourself
My factory is a mess. X3
im feeling blind. Where did they put the regional transfer menu at again?
honestly this is what I did bcs I'm a lazy piece of shit 😂 all credits to leander for these insanely space efficient builds it's genuinely just madness
open V4 -> put items your inventory. open wuling, your inventory -> wuling
imma use these, mine is not functioning as well as i would have liked to, because i can't read 
how do i get bombs lmao
It does nto mention RDL requirement ;P
aketine+ amethyst parts if I'm not wrong
aketine powder*
Which is better for stockbills yenzen syringe or batteries ?
what are they named
like the
uh
bomb thingi
the akatine and parts in a packing unit
you need one akatine, then seed and planting unit to get infinite aketine
industrial explosives, locked behind a quest, forget which one
you can actually make it before the quest, i did
Optimally you'd get both running at the same time because they consume diff resources anhways
ah thanks, you need RDL 11, otherwise you remove 1 Core CapA
But just for fastest money prob batteries
chat are valley pass, science park, power pleateau outpost size same? [when fully upgraded]?
i see thanks
thank you! edited 🙂
Am i doing good or nah ?
Will I get AIC in science park? I really need Ferium but I can't drag a cable from Valley IV to there
Aah, from batteries i get ( 10800/hr ) stockbills
yes
And 3 xiranite components per min
this right?
Bombs yes
I JUST figured out that you can delete other players ziplines... Winning
Pretty handy
in the pac
If you have the space to afford a yazhen/jincao production you should get to doing that asw
I dont think there's a way to access it in your own menu
any other questions on https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466125655941976135 post directly on the blueprint, i'll edit it there 🙂 FYI this lets you completely drain the stock savings every day
no blueprints just raw trial and error,🙏 I love the factory
how much capsule A is ideal to make? i have 2 setup and it makes to 9/min (cause i kinda ran out of space and sandleaf keeps running out)
18 (3x producers) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1466125655941976135/1466125656386568213/V4_OUTPUT.png?ex=697b9b6b&is=697a49eb&hm=4f0d950f167102012ec9c0db7fc0dfe04c988f8df2e0a80d75df0c3d32d84df2&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1485&height=1160 https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466125655941976135
what most people consider the "endgame" of factory is to produce 18/m of buckA and HC battery + all the amethyst worth of buck C
I've like 3 pac outpost outlets empty on my tiny outpost
And half the space, area hasnt been expanded fully
for the batteries in particular there's an argument for creating slightly less than 18 (15-16) because you need to have some ferrite fed into wuling to supply for syringes
Ok, I definitely completed Wulf's quest, I cannot for the life of me find my missing Ferrium node(s)
for sure, i'd -1 entirely because i'm already over-capping on stock savings, but early on i wanted to create a stockpile
Hm
how do i get more ports from my AIC, i've used all 6 ports but i want to add more refining units to help the flow
100k for 10hrs, only if it was irl instead of stockbills
Sadly this is only 99.16% efficient
Bus depot, unloader and protocol stash
Would help just manage ports wisely after using these in layout
Finnallyyyyyy i have sandleaf 
noooooom not like this
Ty
Having that 1 sandleaf feels good
To get max efficiency you need to make 18.67 batteries and 17.67 buck capsule A
bet, thanks
Anyone got a valley Buck capsule B BP, that is on NA?
I see plenty of people at 18/min HC battery use, but I am running out of power and can't use any more originium. how do people handle this power discrepancy?
chat anyone has 18/min buck capsule and 18/min hc valley battery blueprint ?
what did you do?... lol
how much power are you using?
ahh gotcha
Mine is 18.67 hc battery 17.67, buck capsule A, 24 buck capsule C, but you need to have bought all the expansions
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466043358509273349
Yeah, yk my base was imbalanced as all my sandleaf was drained from inventory cus i forgot to add planting loop on my wuling all factory base, now its fine since I'm using stash transfer sandleaf, it's helping with space and also battery production
omg nvm I got the issue
I haven't dismantled my cryston component line because I like having it there if I need it, but I can just turn it into a blueprint and store it when I don't need it
all this for one efficient purple battery
I'm happy with blue ones 
They get used to quickly imo
Well i don't mind as they are providing enough power to make 360 lc batteries per hr
Wuling batteries
time to never touch this ever again
Fair enough
it's an all factory base for batteries and components
Is there a more compact design for the infinite seeds than the basic Planter|Seeder|Planter loop?
putting sandleaf in the middle of what is supposed to be the climax of the first area was certainly a choice
I literally dropped the msq and ported back to base and tinkered in the aic for the next 3 hours because of the stuff you can make with sandleaf
are they used for anything other than the occasional exploding to explore or did i just make a factory producing a shitton of them for no reason
should I be worried?
yes
You can get away with just one of each if you really need to, but it has like half the efficiency because one machine needs to process two seeds then
I was implying with the same efficiency
That wasn't implied and then the answer is no, that's the only way
@hexed spruce hey vilin im having a bit trouble with it how am I post to place it?-
Me too started my previous made hc battery production factory rn 
anyone know how to connect this relay tower to the mineral bed up north of it
when do u unlock the thorny yazen recipe?
What product do you guys use for depot packaging?
ok, i can't understand this now.
The power of my entire base just goes Poof randomly. i went afk for half hour and when i came back, the power was gone back to 200.
it happened twice now, the farm i had before was made by me, and i didn't made a backup battery service so i copied a youtuber's design and using it, it's working perfectly, but now this happened again.
i did put my backup batteries which were made alongside, and now everything is working as if nothing was wrong....
What is Happening?
Whatever i have extra
doesnt matter
Shredded buckflower/sandleaf
Nah, i'm good with batteries.
check your graphs
need more ferrium mines
this?
either import purple batteries or using wuling batteries
make wuling batteries, bring some hc batteries from valley to power your initial setup
check for production tho
something is being either under or over utilized
causing batteries to be made slower so u eventually run our
hey gang, whats the max income of ferrium in Wuling? I swear to god earlier today it said 120/min but now its 90/min
go to the ship and transfer batteries from valley to wuling
initially then use both batteries to power the base without management to make other products
you can switch depos on djang
well u can always import extra lol but no 90 is max rn
just bring enough to jumpstart wuling battery production so you dont have to import batteries anymore
Im confused on something and I think I screwed it up can anyone tell me how this BP is post to be placed?
I used 3 originium ore belts to make 600 power lol, once I had the forge and batteries going, I removed them
if you're talking about the blight thing u gotta explode the core
like this, you place have to place the line of unloaders next to the depot bus
time to build a mega base in wuling
i checked, Yield is higher or equal to the usage rate
hello
Do you ever get the option for a second forge of the sky?
thats odd. should be going to 0
unlock in the wuling tree
2 is the cap on forges right now
its upgrade from tech tree
Anyone have a Buck B bps?
ok I guess ill use 1st base for production and second base for raw materials
I think I did it?-
for making it future proof imma do the cross method
i did let it run while i was figuring out the problem, so the figure might have changed
put depot in the centre and run a cross
Just stock up on 1k you should be good for the whole game for now.
reserves died lol
so u need to place batteries manually in the banks after
cause ur battery supply might have run out
i love solving problems like these ahah
its what makes factory games fun
stonks
Sry for so many images but is this a good factory for where im at (Lvl 22), and is there anything i should add or change?
oh wow thanks
is it working?
HOLY LOL
it's the one along the narrow path
need that in wuling
yeah
youre only running one refinery into bottles
you should be running 2
since it requires 60/m
basically youre at 50% efficiency right now
only making 3 meds/m
I think I got it working lol so yes?
EFO01893u6o9o91iUI73
you’ll need buckflower farms set up elsewhere tho but thats easy
how do you increase capacity in depot?
im not sure i have enough amethyst income/ ferrium income to do that tho
wont i run out?
if you dont have an extra 30 per minute then dont bother doing it until you have enough throughput
youll just run yourself into the ground
base is too bloated without full efficiency
amethyst is at 110/min yield and 120/min usage, and ferrium is at 90/min yield and 90/min usage
yeah i can probably stop the valley pass lc battery one for now and be fine
this isnt rlly doing anything either
ok, i just removed that one
Decrease the distance:3
the amethyst refining unit and fitting unit into storage
FYI belt distance doesn't matter once the factory has gotten going, but it does waste space if you care about that, when you upgrade your base you'll have abundent space, but the blueprints i made don't require upgraded space as it costs extra stocks that go to waste otherwise https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466125655941976135
Need help pls, why is my HC battery the only thing looking like it’s having a seizure
also it's cheaper to upgrade hub > refugee > science > power, so upgrade in that order
How many lines of steel bottles do I need to feed into the filling unit for buck capsules A to get maximum output? It looks like it's 3-4
i dont care about space since i cant run enough stuff to fill that space anyway, ill redesign the entire factory when i can but i just want to make something semi decent while i level and progress
Both ferrium steel and originium is at equal yield usage ratio too
because battery outputs are 1 per 10s, but are used 1 per 40 seconds
The usage is always at a steady 3/min, but the yield is fluctuating like crazy
change the time to 30min or 2h and you'll see it average out
