team-build

[distant carbon]

i have both thermite and never rest, i just change depending on if i lack physical bonus or atk more

[winged mesa]

or rly in other comps too

[livid mirage]

[supple pollen]

in terms of gains it's the lowest unless we're counting like aspirant chen as chen sig in which case that might win out as a bigger loss

nr is like fine though don't misunderstand, just worse than thermite is right now

long term might end up winning over therm but doesnt right now

[livid mirage]

Thermite is so powerful that never rest ends up suffering

No other sword comes cloee to thermite in terms of support

[dim ridge]

Never rest should give phys dmg taken instead of phys dmg bonus

[slow timber]

i just gotten gilberta im planning on including her in a team consist of rossi, wulfgard and dapan,

is there a recomended weapon for my gilberta other then her sig

[supple pollen]

stanza

[winged mesa]

breach:

[distant carbon]

i am planning for long term because pog as a sp battery + breacher will have higher value than chen/endmin/lifeng, future physical dpses likely benefit from him and the sig, just like rossi

[dim ridge]

More multiplier 👅

[supple pollen]

p easy for devs to force obselete him so trying to future proof is a pure gamble
if you're happy though who cares

[winged mesa]

well damn thats a.., bold claim lol

[livid mirage]

Power creeping pog will powercreep every other unit

That’s how powerful a pog powercreep will need to be

Same for zhuang

[supple pollen]

this is simply not true but have at it

[dim ridge]

Once flag bearer release every vanguard will get powercrept

[livid mirage]

They will be power crept but after everyone else

[livid mirage]

Pog power creep will not push pog out of team, we just ditch Chen and welcome unlimited sp

[dim ridge]

Lifeng upscale

[distant carbon]

well the only sigs im pulling will be support ones anyways, rn i only have the sigs for pog and gilberta since these 2 are high value support units that will last long in the meta, while dps sigs arent too different from other 5 star/bp option other than fangyi's 25% increase

but pulling fangyi sig might still not be ideal because she might be powercrept in a few patches time

since weapon currency is so limited for f2p players like me, i like to plan ahead and only get those with the most value

[supple pollen]

fangyi is already not optimal in several pieces of content and didn't push the barrier in speedrunning for others.
She excels are ult start casual content

pog is shoehorned into phys teams so a better phys vg just means replacing pog. if you really think chen is the first to go in phys then that might explain your takes

chen is currently either the highest damage share or a close second in phys

[dim ridge]

Make them generate sp when doing dmg trust

[odd blaze]

can these 4 actually make a usable team?

[dim ridge]

Birth of bagpipe

[distant carbon]

honestly if they release another phys vg i dont see why you cant play both them and pog since sp is quite limiting still even with pog on the team

[supple pollen]

as with pog devs could very easily force obselete chen but if we're trying (and failing) to predict things then chen is arguably the long term safest

[livid mirage]

Chen is free vuln

[distant carbon]

which sigs would you guys say have the most pull value? i like to see what you guys think

for me im still thinking value wise:

1. gilb sig
2. tangtang sig
3. pog sig

[supple pollen]

Tangtang, Rossi probably in that order

[winged mesa]

what good would unlimited sp do when you wont have vuln stacks?

[supple pollen]

Fangyi and Rossi sigs interchangeable based on rossi team i guess

[undone coral]

Pog and Gil are supporters so pull their sig (probably the two most replaceable sigs in the game rn)
Chen will be the first to go if a new phys vanguard comes around

What did I walk into

[livid mirage]

Spam yifeng with that sp

[dim ridge]

When mountain crush striker

[livid mirage]

Idk, people defend Chen too much

She has her limits

[undone coral]

for good reason 😭

[rich canyon]

Spam the most slow skill to stack vuln

[livid mirage]

I mean she good but….

[distant carbon]

tell me how you replacing gilb sig in a nature team

[supple pollen]

People hate the fact a 5* is that good I guess

[winged mesa]

to.. sustain 2 vuln consumer..? thats ceazy

[undone coral]

detonation unit

And there’s the fact that p0 delivery’s buff is diluted as hell

[winged mesa]

deto unit opus all might be a feasible option

[distant carbon]

i dont think gilb does the burst 🥀

[undone coral]

it’s good no doubt. But picking it over DPS sigs is, questionable

[cold cargo]

Wtf am i reading

[supple pollen]

arts burst is when you reapply an infliction already on the enemy

[dim ridge]

Now that I think about it only source of dmg taken buff in physical team is susc breach and endmin combo

[undone coral]

You’re reading this
And vibes. Too many vibes.

[supple pollen]

apply nature to an enemy with nature you get nature arts bust

[dim ridge]

Never rest buff should’ve been dmg taken fr

[supple pollen]

hence in a 'nature' team proccing arts burst is pretty accessible

[winged mesa]

we wont know until we have the team, arts burst is simply applying an infliction when theres already a similar infliction applied

[supple pollen]

theoretically ofc

[cold cargo]

Fell asleep doing is3, woke up to this

[glass ruin]

i pulled nr because i opened the thermite box and didnt pick thermite

[undone coral]

Go back to IS3, the dice rolling RNG makes more sense than these vibecrafts

[livid mirage]

Only last rite needs her sig….maybe zhuang?
Everyone else can work with what they got afaik

[supple pollen]

something something ask for mods to actually moderate help channels for the 10th time

[livid mirage]

Last rite will cry without her sig

[winged mesa]

what does 'work' mean because either of them can work without

[distant carbon]

fangyi still works with bp weapon tbh

[cold cargo]

Rn last rite doesnt have any good alternatives to her sig, but that doesnt mean she doesn't work without her sig

[undone coral]

not even LR or Fangyi “need” their sigs
but still, thats different from pulling two literally half-unused signature weapons just because “their operators are supporters”

[supple pollen]

Sundered and Exemplar aren't so far behind that it would ruin the team

5-15% or so team damage gap

[undone coral]

as a delivery haver I won’t deny its use cases
But if I were forced to speedrun with only a few 6* choices, it’d be among the first to go

[supple pollen]

not that much different than a lot of modern sigs, less of a gap than some like tt sig can cause

[distant carbon]

also you arent going to touch their sigs once fangyi gets crept, just use them while theyre still meta and save weapon pulls for whats valuable

[supple pollen]

you pull delivery to cover the rots that need its uge without having to use bad arts units like monaihe

also has higher uge than said monaihe which matters in some cases

[undone coral]

Ironically I made a corromax rotation for tidal where monai > delivery

[winged mesa]

gacha players are so obsessed over units getting crept this is like, funny as fuck

[undone coral]

So “it’s situational” is probably the best answer for supporter weapons

[glass ruin]

my pulling principles for sig will prob be like

1. i like the unit firstly
2. the unit is a dps who has a good dmg share in the team and the sig is a decent enough increase over alternative eg zhuang
3. the unit is a support and their sig is something that the f2p doesn't provide eg tangtang

[livid mirage]

Uhhh, bring out a significant part of their potential?

[supple pollen]

id be shocked if the AI matters that much over the stat loss and buff loss

maybe a few % deviation

[livid mirage]

I pull zhuang cos aoe is a pain and I can’t afford 120 pulls for lava

[winged mesa]

what does that even mean bruh

[undone coral]

Deliv v monai not a huge difference ofc, but just to illustrate a point
also in that rot the uge breakpoint was sorta awkward so, arts inten was pretty much undiluted, hence monai winning

[winged mesa]

its a gacha game if you have bad options you cope with it until you have better options

[livid mirage]

If you use a substitute weapon, are you gonna miss it?

Like lifeng not having a 6* spear
It sucks…..

[winged mesa]

whats next having p0 khrav shs just bench lr because its not bringing out the potential that a p5 can do?

[winged mesa]

ive seen ppl running chimeric lifeng just fine though

[supple pollen]

p5 prince beats p0 khrav iirc

[livid mirage]

Stat mismatch

[winged mesa]

its called make do with what you have

not like that uge is dogass

sure dps loss here and there thays expected

[livid mirage]

4* spear better than chimeric for him

[winged mesa]

chimeric js a 4*??????? 😭 😭 😭 😭

[livid mirage]

(Iana suggested and I tried)

[dim ridge]

Do you think if 13th adopted sibling be first 6 star limited defender

[livid mirage]

Isn’t it 5*?

[dim ridge]

[livid mirage]

Chimeric justice? Or did I confuse the name?

[winged mesa]

oh nvm it is 5 ig

oop confused it with smth else

[supple pollen]

chim is better than pathfinders

you just reroute around chim uge

[livid mirage]

Ehhh

[supple pollen]

does a faster rot

[winged mesa]

idt neither pathfinder and aggelo would perform any better than chimeric honestly

[supple pollen]

444 p comfy too instead of 434 or 433

[jade basalt]

how good is Avywenna 👀 ?

[supple pollen]

good enough to clear everything

[undone coral]

good enough to clear

[winged mesa]

good enough

[supple pollen]

not as good as better units

[livid mirage]

Will suffer in aoe without gilberta

[jade basalt]

good enough to replace chen and use electro team?

[livid mirage]

so many units suffer in aoe without gilberta

[undone coral]

why is Chen in an electro team at all

[winged mesa]

in what team is this chen in

[livid mirage]

Physical is peak

[jade basalt]

Physical, Endmin, Chen, Pog, Lifeng

[livid mirage]

Physical is peak

[jade basalt]

she that mandatory? DAMN

[supple pollen]

monophys performs better than avywenna hyper in most metrics but both are viable

[winged mesa]

whys.. what.. just make a new elec team lmao

[jade basalt]

ABSOLUTELYYYY

[supple pollen]

if you want to play something new then play something new

not like your old team vanishes when you stop using it

[livid mirage]

Aoe sucks with physical tho

That or I have skill issue

[dim ridge]

Just make team for all archetype

[cold cargo]

No, the team performs better if you have her, but will work fine without her

[dim ridge]

[jade basalt]

[glass ruin]

lifeng ult and pog ult has some grouping for aoe

[livid mirage]

Isn’t aoe hell without grouping?

[jade basalt]

yee, makes Crush easier for endmin

[winged mesa]

[merry token]

I think Ake over pog for aoe content

[livid mirage]

Ahh my uge was low

[dim ridge]

I think we just spam gilberta skill in aoe content

[jade basalt]

akekuri over pog? 💔

[dim ridge]

[merry token]

I do not see a reason to use pog without using his breach and you don't use breach in aoe

Because the mobs just die to crush

[winged mesa]

thermite uptime, grouping capability

[jade basalt]

that kinda makes sense, it's like a Single unit typa shi

[cold cargo]

You can position around it

[jade basalt]

i gave him never rest 👉👈

[dim ridge]

If mob just die to crush you don’t get much from ake either anyways

[winged mesa]

have fun trying to keep thermite up with ake ig

[merry token]

Ake has thermite Vs aoe because you can constantly stagger

[brisk current]

I'm so goddamn conflicted good lord

[dim ridge]

But my dmg too high

[winged mesa]

when they die first you aint getting that stagger

[livid mirage]

I remember the time we use fort maker on pog cos his uge was low

[brisk current]

Should I get Delivery Guaranteed or Forgeborn Scathe 😭

[supple pollen]

that was never why we ran fortmaker what

[merry token]

I feel like you are more likely to get the stagger than to proc breach and have breach be useful

[dim ridge]

Forge if you really want to play lae

[winged mesa]

never mentioned breach in the first place

you dont do a st oriented debuff when its mobs

[dim ridge]

Pog have ult

[supple pollen]

fortmaker has AI and UGE both desired stats
higher uge means less uge in gear and can get ai gear pieces

if you lack thermite and nr then fortmaker beats any other options easily

[dim ridge]

Pog ult give sp and proc his passive

[rare kettle]

Pookie!

[merry token]

Literally just pog ult I guess, feels like a waste but sure

[dim ridge]

Fweddwy

[cold cargo]

Hunbun

[brisk current]

Unless we get a multi-team endgame mode I don't think I'll ever play Laevatain in endgame

[winged mesa]

ake isnt just ult too? wut

[brisk current]

I already got Fangyi with her sig so she's kinda redundant right now

[livid mirage]

You could save your currency?

Weapon pulls are rare

[rare kettle]

Can i give u my skport and have u yell at me if theres sum wrong

[merry token]

Idk, I feel like I was constantly staggering mobs in aoe content

[winged mesa]

at least its better than some dude recommending obj to pog

[jade basalt]

hold up, isnt gilberta the one thats currently in the banner

[dim ridge]

Delivery only really useful if you wannna do 2 ult gil with fangyi

[brisk current]

Should I?

[cold cargo]

Sure @undone coral finally someone worth to teambuild for

[merry token]

Physical has insane stagger in general to proc Ake combo skill

[rare kettle]

[brisk current]

Can Gil work with only Stanza and can Laeva work with Umbral Torch?

[merry token]

But I guess it depends on your damage ceiling if you kill before stagger or not

[livid mirage]

Fort was recommended over thermite cos his ult lagged behind rotation

[winged mesa]

both works just as fine

[cold cargo]

Also i can never yell at you pookie

[supple pollen]

who was recommending this?

[livid mirage]

Iana and a lot of others

[winged mesa]

ill do the yelling

[dim ridge]

Wow you ignored me

[winged mesa]

dm me what you want me to yell

[brisk current]

So, I guess... save?

[supple pollen]

Iana 100% was not recommending fort over therm
you either misunderstood what they said or misremembered

[rare kettle]

https://game.skport.com/endfield/game-data?header=0&hg_media=skport&gameUid=994860803&roleId=6186728509&s_c=N1TAc8wDMFD8IBzCMBD5UB0BO8D1ED14N1g2=D=E4B64C77DC=

[cold cargo]

[rare kettle]

[brisk current]

I got like 26k Arsenal Tickets right now

[livid mirage]

They did
It was back in the day tho

[supple pollen]

they might have suggested a rot or two existing where fortmaker uge was required but they were never suggesting it generically

[livid mirage]

Gimme some

[brisk current]

More than enough to pull for 1 sig and maybe 2 if I'm lucky

[winged mesa]

yes, although umbral torch p5 vs forgeborn p0 will have about 10~15% difference in team dps if you care enough

but they will perform just fine.

[brisk current]

Datafield says that DG only gives like 3-5% effectiveness increase while Forgeborn gives like 20%

[brisk skiff]

whats the best team for the stage iam on? i just got to authority level 20 and this is my team

[brisk current]

Yeah this one

But she'd be just fine with UT?

Alright then

[winged mesa]

ye

[livid mirage]

Should I pull on new banner

And risk p2 Ardelia before I get anything else?

[brisk current]

I'm conflicted because I currently lack a second main DPS. Not that it has anything to do with the game rn but if they ever add a multi-team gamemode in the future then I'm f-ed

[dim ridge]

Yes get p5 Ardelia ✌️ ✌️

[brisk current]

It's a great banner

[rare kettle]

Happens

[cold cargo]

Can i not look at this without the skport app

[brisk current]

I got Gilberta, Ardelia, and using the selector Laevatain in 120 pulls

[merry token]

How do you not have 2 of either physical, avy, zhuang, Yvonne or laevatain, or even rossi

[dim ridge]

[rare kettle]

I have no idea

[winged mesa]

no

game data can only be seen in app unfortunately

[rare kettle]

Garbage

[dim ridge]

Forge can let Laevi extend her selves life abit or just save for adopted sibling

[winged mesa]

can just send a ss of the interface

shd give us (them) plenty to work with

[rare kettle]

Does that imply u wouldnt help the poor me

[winged mesa]

yes im too dumb

[rare kettle]

Convenient excuse

[brisk current]

I've fully built Fangyi and her damage is genuinely stupid, but I haven't built a lot of other essential supports (not even hers, like Arclight). I have Rossi at Lv. 90 and fully geared + essence but she's... kinda bad?

I mean yeah I haven't fully leveled her gear and essence but Fangyi works at her level of investment

I have P5 Avy (not leveled), no Yvonne, and I just got Laevatain (which is why I'm asking whether I need her sig to make her an effective main DPS or if Umbral Torch works fine)

[livid mirage]

Is the p5 Ardelia risk worth pulling in new banner

[brisk current]

Adopted sibling? 13th Sui?

I want her but isn't she like 2 patches away?

[dim ridge]

Or one

[brisk current]

I'm dead if she's in the next patch

I only got like 75-ish pulls left

[dim ridge]

She first one on the roll

[brisk current]

I thought it's in no particular order?

Which is why I thought Mifu would def be the first

[merry token]

Arclight barely needs building, just slap on thermite + uge gear and you are good, Rossi wants Gil quite badly I think for her ult to do silly damage

[winged mesa]

rossi likes gil but nowhere near that badly

[brisk current]

I gave Rossi a Glorious Memory. Is there a better fit for her (aside from her sig)?

[winged mesa]

GM is fine

[merry token]

Should be fine

My Rossi is barely invested but I guess Gil did kinda carry her in umbral 4-1

[brisk current]

and you used Stanza?

[acoustic edge]

Gm vs sig is big difference on rossi mdps but im guessing the difference is smaller for sub dps

[merry token]

Sig

[cold cargo]

Im not downloading skport app sorry pookie, but your lr team was built by me and s.ln so it should be fine

[brisk current]

Oh

[merry token]

I have both Rossi and Gil sig

But like no etching or artificing on Rossi and she's still lvl 80/80

[brisk current]

Datafield says it's a 14% difference. Slightly lower compared to Laeva's 16%

[rare kettle]

Not even for me?!
Guess i really dont matter to you...🥹

[brisk current]

Sigh

[cold cargo]

I dont even download my schools app, im not doing it for akef

[acoustic edge]

Does datafield say that rossi sig p0 vs bp p5 is 14 percent difference and also that laeva sig p0 vs bp p5 is 16 percent?

[merry token]

I have physical ember team pretty much full build, Yvonne and last rite teams kinda build, zhuang team built and Rossi is kinda homeless

[dim ridge]

In phys hybird team sig is better but Rossi hypercarry other is better iirc

[brisk current]

P0, not P5

[acoustic edge]

P0 bp vs p0 sig?

[brisk current]

P5 is a 7% diff for Rossi and an 8% diff for Laeva

[brisk current]

Yeah

[raw drum]

which does better dmg for her?

[dim ridge]

Is this tangtang

[brisk current]

For who 😭

[cold cargo]

Fucking kittmitts back

[dim ridge]

The bonekrusher should still be better with uh that one glove

[cold cargo]

"Server couldnt get worse"
It gets worse

[acoustic edge]

Sounds abt right for team output difference

[brisk current]

Well, luckily both UT and Stanza fits their characters' color palette

Guess I'll save (fr this time)

[rare kettle]

Neither
Get mi sec gloves with bs% dmg

[winged mesa]

sounds like you had a rough history lmao

[brisk current]

Whose weapon is UT supposed to be in the first place?

[uneven oar]

this good enough for rossi ?

[winged mesa]

laev 2nd sig

[dim ridge]

And bonekrusher too

[rare kettle]

Redeemer gloves, rn

[undone coral]

main dps or sub?
if mdps, you’d want slab
Subdps, get MI gloves

Qingbo or Bonekrusha is situational depending on cs cooldown requirement

[cold cargo]

Notorious misinfoer in #help
Has half of the help regulars blocked

Including me

[winged mesa]

either change to redeemer gloves or yinglung radar

[winged mesa]

[uneven oar]

oh right

[brisk current]

I use Redeemer Gloves instead of MI

[rare kettle]

Pookie
Do u have skport downloaded

[undone coral]

Yes pookie

[uneven oar]

i wonder if i should just swap from chen's redeemer because i'm too lazy to reartifice

[glass ruin]

downloading skport

[winged mesa]

if u arent playing chen then go ahead

[uneven oar]

not on rossi team no

[merry token]

Borrowing already artificed gear is always correct

[rare kettle]

Can u check mine and yell at me if u see sum wrong pookie
Green doc doesnt love me enough

[raw drum]

subdps, but i tend to stack watersprouts with xaihi's cryo apply and just pop them with her ult, so i rarely use her BS on bossfights
also if she is maindps i think bonekrusha set will provide better dmg than qingbo

[brisk current]

Oh it actually is supposed to be her?

I thought it was someone else's sig

[winged mesa]

all Bp weapons are designed for the banner units

umbral torch laev
opus etch figure gil
navigator yvonne
gm rossi
home longing tangtang
flickers fangyi

doesnt always mean they will be better than other alternative

[cold cargo]

Lies

[brisk current]

Didn't know that

I thought it's supposed to be a standard banner 6* sig

[undone coral]

then qingbo, but you’d still want MI gloves.
also I never said main dps shouldn’t run BK. Main DPS is either BK+slab or Qingbo+slab, depending on your rotation

[raw drum]

so far navigator is the only one beaten with wedge if both at P0

[winged mesa]

standsrd 6* sigs are all in the arsenal banners below the current limited time running banners

[raw drum]

does her ult count as BS dmg or smth?

[dim ridge]

Just get p1 fr

[cold cargo]

I love you enough, more than enough, as much as my heart can handle it
But i hate akef more

[undone coral]

yes

[winged mesa]

sure man

[dim ridge]

👅

[undone coral]

Her ult tornados go off bs% multipliers

[winged mesa]

wrong reply

wtv cba this bus is shaky as fuck

[brisk current]

Yeah I just realized that

[raw drum]

i don't see it being mentioned

[undone coral]

it’s not mentioned in game but has been tested by myself and many many other theorycrafters
Game description doesn’t go in depth with multiplier group mathematics, for valid reasons. Hence the need for tc channels

You can do it yourself if you don’t believe me

[dim ridge]

It create water sprout after rogue wave end water sprout is bs dmg

[plucky marsh]

How to build Gil for Rossi? I have stanza only
Which gear to use and what skill to m1 m2 somethinf?

[undone coral]

Also, if intuition is what you’re after, try looking at talent 2. “Same effect as battle skill”

[winged mesa]

m1 ult normal xiranite build yadayada

[plucky marsh]

Full UGE and less ai since I dont have sig right?

[dim ridge]

The ult tornadoes are watersprout same one made by skills yeah

[undone coral]

yup. I’m telling that guy
I tested TT wayyyy too much to not know how her math works

[winged mesa]

dont rly know how much uge she needs but you can always test it out

[dim ridge]

It mean it does state very well from talent 2

[winged mesa]

either redeemer armor + 3pc xiranite for full uge
or 3pc xiranite + hotwork cartridge for some ai

[dim ridge]

Initial rogue wave should still be ult dmg

[plucky marsh]

Imma build her right now hehe and test it out

[undone coral]

Yup, it is
So is DOT

[dim ridge]

I wonder if t2 mdps should just let the wave do it thing because multiplier is higher

[winged mesa]

the dot multiplier isnt rly all that high from what i rmb

[dim ridge]

Does the early detonation dmg still the same after 3 seconds?

[undone coral]

wdym? Early end mv is 700%, regular mv is 400%

[winged mesa]

early roguewave at m3 is like 700%

dot is like 320% or some shit

[undone coral]

U just detonate it when it’s almost over anyway, if ur minmax for DOT

[dim ridge]

Yeah it like pretty much the same thing

[winged mesa]

as long as its early aka before dura is up it shd be using the 700%

[brisk current]

I'm out of T-Creds to even fully upgrade UT fuuuck

[dim ridge]

So if minmax get 900 mv

[undone coral]

Yup

[brisk current]

Where are my sanity pills when I need them

[winged mesa]

this went silent fast

[dim ridge]

When bestial lung

[winged mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-monkey-think-monkey-meme-ponder-monkey-idea-gif-6401133862108294696

[dim ridge]

I need Mr Lee

Or Wei kid

[rare kettle]

https://game.skport.com/endfield/game-data?header=0&hg_media=skport&gameUid=994860803&roleId=6186728509&s_c=N1TAc8wDMFD8IBzCMBD5UB0BO8D1ED14N1g2=D=E4B64C77DC=
Look and teach pookie

[undone coral]

What am I looking at, it’s just showing me my own account

[rare kettle]

[undone coral]

buggy mobile 🫠

[cold cargo]

P5 yvon exposed

[rare kettle]

Garbage app

[cold cargo]

See, i was right

[dim ridge]

My page is German

Whatever is this

[raw drum]

could've maxed it out today but i just maxed out xaihi's int sets this week

[winged mesa]

this is just saying you should download the app btw lol

[dim ridge]

Perlica plays Endfield

Perlica German real

[rare kettle]

This garbage literaly has my uid
Why is it still so bad

[cold cargo]

[uneven oar]

this app has no moderation

[cold cargo]

Just send ss from enka

[uneven oar]

all i see when i open skport is just AI slop

[winged mesa]

the forum part yeah

interactive map helps though

[rare kettle]

Nope opens mine

[raw drum]

is using intmaxxing starry just as good as using deto?

[cold cargo]

No

[undone coral]

Whose team?

Yvonne’s?
Then, it depends on whether you’re actually getting deto’s trigger condition (arts burst)

[raw drum]

yvonne, i have no arse tickets to unbrick LR anws

[undone coral]

“Arse tickets”

[undone coral]

This, then.
Though you’d definitely prefer chivalric virtues with any statstick

[rare kettle]

But that would nees me to open the game again, change the ops in profile and open enka

[raw drum]

feels inconsistent and SP expensive even with soupsoup ngl

[plucky marsh]

Deto is probably the best standard weap in this game right now. Maybe 2nd best because therimite is so universal

[undone coral]

Precisely why most people don’t try to proc deto in Yvonne’s team. They just use chiv instead

[raw drum]

im not buying the chivalric and waste my potental pulls for sui ngl

[cold cargo]

Just do it when you log in, it is not like me and s.ln are gonna disappear from teambuild (we might after kittmitts returnal )

[dim ridge]

You have 3 banner for adopted sibling weapon 💔

[raw drum]

so intmaxxing starry is 2nd best for yvonne?

[pearl surge]

????

[undone coral]

alright, then dreams.
But only if yk what you’re walking into.

Technically the order, raw buff wise, is:
deto (triggered) >= chivalric > dreams (statstick) > deto (statstick)

Given how deto is often infeasible, chiv is the go-to

[raw drum]

there's a good chance im prob getting sui sig too and i'd prob won't have more arse tickets after that

[raw drum]

since i don't have chivalric

[dim ridge]

Yeah that what’s I’m saying you have 3 banner worth of time for her sig

[undone coral]

Ironically he’s not wrong, dreams is definitely worse but “second best” still, if u wanna be technical about it

Setting aside rotations that trigger deto, ofc

[barren umbra]

qingbo or pulser labs set for perlica ?

[undone coral]

depends on team
need cs cdr? Qingbo
Else, pulser

[rare kettle]

Qing for zhuang
Pulsar for others

[acoustic edge]

P5 starry vs p0 deto can get close iirc

So basically no lol

[winged mesa]

how about tsking my suggestion and ss the skport 🗿

[undone coral]

Yvonne’s team
So, deto is a statstick too, usually

[undone coral]

.

[raw drum]

assuming even if the arts burst debuff isn't activated?

[acoustic edge]

Assuming it gets activated

[raw drum]

bc i rarely play LR due to her being bricked without sig

[winged mesa]

this would never come close

dreams has int + bigger secondary%
deto has small secondary%

[ocean jay]

wait how are we activate deto by xaihi again?

tang² bs then 2 fs? to use xaihi cs?

[winged mesa]

you use her cs

[acoustic edge]

Triggering cryo arts burst

[undone coral]

arts burst, i.e. let Xai apply the 2nd+ infliction stack

[rare kettle]

But you said youre dumb and have bad advice so i didnt listen, you see

[raw drum]

either cast her BS twice or soup2 BS>xaihi BS

[winged mesa]

that wasnt advice just a mere suggestion

[rare kettle]

pookie

[chrome locust]

Should i make my arclight thermite cutter to lvl 90? (its at 40 rn)

[winged mesa]

no need

[raw drum]

nah just make sure it has +3 flow essence

[plucky marsh]

Qingbo for minimum investment
Pulser for max damage pot with high investment

[chrome locust]

Alright

[winged mesa]

this is technically not wrong but also not right

[ocean jay]

so basically is this right (?)

[acoustic edge]

Any cryo source works

[raw drum]

how to u propose to trigger arts burst in yvonne team then

[acoustic edge]

You just need xaihi cs to connect on an enemy who has cryo inflicted

[winged mesa]

lr bs also works doesnt have to be tt bs

[undone coral]

the better answer would be, don’t try to optimize for deto in Yvonne’s comp, since doing so is often an opportunity cost
If LR, then deto comes naturally most of the time

[winged mesa]

thats the thing, you dont

[acoustic edge]

Use chiv

[winged mesa]

you can make a rot to fulfill the condition but most player would just use chiv to get the buff instead

[acoustic edge]

Starry at same pot gets mogged by chiv afaik always

[raw drum]

so intmaxxing starry it is

[acoustic edge]

Even with a lot of attack buffs already

[barren umbra]

is pulser better for perlica onzfy hypercarry ?

[winged mesa]

if you dont have chiv, yes

[raw drum]

one small provlem
i don't have chiv

[acoustic edge]

No

[raw drum]

unless u give me 2480 arse tickets for it since it's on sale but even then I'd rather use it on thermite

[acoustic edge]

If deto and chiv aren't options then starry is third in slot yes

[ocean jay]

what if i have p5 deto and p5 cv, which to pick then

[acoustic edge]

For yvonne chiv

[ocean jay]

ic

[acoustic edge]

For lr usually deto

[undone coral]

Also situational
LR usually deto, unless speedkill uptime
Yvonne usually chiv, unless speedkill weird rotation

there’s a ton of “it’s situational” if you wanna get into minmaxing
But outside that, just play it safe, LR deto, yvonne chiv

[barren umbra]

why

[acoustic edge]

In most of my lr calcs deto pushed forward p5 vs p5

[acoustic edge]

You normally run pulsar for arts intensity but since fangyi battle skill eats electrification theres not much use for arts intensity on perlica

[plucky marsh]

And just for the record Stanza is indeed in the shop today and nobody ping me 😾

[undone coral]

Not surprised, deto p5 is big
I was talking uptime as in, xai cs -> LR cs to kill, with a bunch of TT damage beforehand. Then deto comes too late

[ocean jay]

@plucky marsh

not too late

[bold mango]

what is with Laev and the sets?
main one is heat and battle skill damage and the other is the ult charge
what exactly is the difference between the 2 in terms of overall damage?

[acoustic edge]

Ic

[acoustic edge]

The logic for hot works is just buffing dmg logic for uge set is to get higher ult uptime since sig already gives plenty of dmg bonus during ult

[ocean jay]

anyways i agree that skport sucks

what is wrong with link

[bold mango]

so ult in case of sig
and hotworks if no sig?
or what exactly is the difference in terms of numbers

[acoustic edge]

Not exactly

[raw drum]

qingbo>pulser
since zfy pretty much eats any electrify she can find
otherwise pulser>qingbo (with alot of AI)
since most teams benefit from the extra arts dmg debuff the reaction provides (except phys teams)

[hollow yew]

is gilbert or ardelia better for laevatain

[acoustic edge]

But uge is not worth considering at all without sig and uge is more favorable the higher pot laev and her sig is, notably laev p4

[winged mesa]

hotworks in case of big damage
uge when its mob and dies withon few slashes
all matter of preference
each set differs ~10% or less in terms of dps

[bold mango]

thanks friends for the explanations

[winged mesa]

both perform well, preference
ardel has forced corrosion on cs meaning on non ult starts you can use laev cs as early as 1 fs
gilberta doesnt but has a bigger suscept and is able to make corrosion wirh excess heat stack (if any)

[raw drum]

gilberta for mobbing, ardelia for bossing
u can still use gilberta for bossing but u gotta time her ult with laev's EBS

[acoustic edge]

Rena you should write up smth to link to ppl whenever they ask ard vs gilb for laev

I saw that question probably like 8 times td

[winged mesa]

i wrote fangyi team bcs its asked more here rarely seen about ardel vs gil

at least in tb

[acoustic edge]

Link me the fang

[hollow yew]

k what about other teams

[acoustic edge]

Gilb is more versatile

Used in more stuff

Gilb is wanted heavily for yvonne, tangtang and rossi

Avy too ig

[hollow yew]

can any pot of ardelia make her completely outweight gil?

[acoustic edge]

But laev last rite zfy just about any team not physical has gilb as a good option

[acoustic edge]

No

Unless you cook up a crackpot p5 corro refresh rot thingy or smth

[uneven oar]

pot1 is decent but not something that replaces vuln4 gilb

but if you need uptime usually ardel wins over gilb

[brisk skiff]

what best weapons for these characters

and how do i know it so i can stop asking 💔

[winged mesa]

a lot of fangyi team's base ground is just Fangyi Perlica Flex Flex,
and popular picks for flex options being:

• arclight/akekuri/alesh: sp recovery with thermite enabler and their personal buffs
• gilberta: good susceptibility debuff
• antal: general comfort de/buffer + 1 elec stack on cs
• ardelia: same sp usage as antal with her own debuffs and whatnot

some rather not so popular options

• avywenna: works as subdps, also can provide Elec Susc and Infliction
• tangtang: universal arts debuffer but pretty invasive since she has 1 cryo stack on bs/ult
• Rossi: usual stuff where shes splashable for wheelchair comps

just a wall of text lol

had a think about it but if i were to list out pros of running either ardel or gil in laev teams its, uhh, a lot longer than this fangyi list

[acoustic edge]

Last rites is just her sig, khravengger, xaihi is either chivalric virtues or detonation unit depending on stuff, fluo is dependent on whether you have her as infliction bot or as dps, ard is just her sig dreams of a starry beach

[acoustic edge]

Is there any reason ever not to run arc with fangyi hyper(no rossi/tt)

[winged mesa]

gilberta antal/ardelia 1 cycle kill

[acoustic edge]

Ic

I forgot gilb ard was a thing ppl did for speedkills some guys were grinding lr rhod speedkill with it back on release

[winged mesa]

laev hyper speedkills are still both gil ard

its just antal numbers too mid compared to rossi

[cold cargo]

Ideally you bench fluorite

Perlica is better in that team

[acoustic edge]

Antal is such a early stage unit thingy ain't nobody using this lizard in a few months

Maybe longer but whatever

[graceful yacht]

Is the Will Agi bonekrusher set + slab main% for Bnuy wife?

[winged mesa]

2bad ur other option is akekuri

[acoustic edge]

I've never seen a slab avy setup

[winged mesa]

see pinned doc

[winged mesa]

according to clown it performs worse than other alternatives

[brisk skiff]

ok thanks

[brisk skiff]

i mean ive seen many teams swap fluo and perlica in and out

[winged mesa]

not entirely sure on it as we have like 2 avy mains

clown and id

[graceful yacht]

Im planning to incorporate her to green Wife as a Sub Nuker

[graceful yacht]

Oh what build should i get then

Ugh internet is so bad

[cold cargo]

Fluo is objectively worse, i dont care if you use her or not but ill give you the better option regardless

Fluo has nothing going for her that makes her valuable for the team

[brisk skiff]

the better one is perlica?

[cold cargo]

Yes

[acoustic edge]

The rest of the doc is in pin

[graceful yacht]

Thanks Hero

Muah

[strange solstice]

If i only have p1 stanza currently should i go for gilberta weapon? Or is BP weapon good enough

[undone coral]

Fluo speeds up your cycle with extra stacks, but her contribution is otherwise negligible, since you can get stacks quite easily through an extra LR bs

Perlica provides damage buffs at 0sp cost.

In most cases, perlica’s the winner

[acoustic edge]

Thanks bro

[cold cargo]

Team has access to cryo stacks with or without fluorite, when sp is that tight it is better that your cs and ult does up to 40-50% more dmg than a single cryo stack

[brisk skiff]

mhh isee

ok thanks guys

[cold cargo]

Perli cs gives arts dmg taken on 0 sp, at max arts intensity can give up to around 27-28% iirc
And she is equipped with stanza, which gives 22.4% atk at p5

[undone coral]

Thanks IthreneGPT

Can I renew my subscription?

[cold cargo]

Yes

Fund me all the sui siblings when wang comes

1200 pulls

[undone coral]

Too expensive, priced out.
Guess I’m unsubscribing then

[cold cargo]

Crazy

[rare kettle]

I'd like to use the 3 months free trial

[acoustic edge]

1200 is insane

[cold cargo]

Im missing 4, 300 per guarantee

[cold cargo]

Your 3 minths free trial has started

[winged mesa]

youre missing 4 pulls out of 1200??!

[cold cargo]

4 sui siblings

[acoustic edge]

Yeah he saved up 300 from all of the progression and events and dropped an extra 2000usd to even it out

[rare kettle]

Im only missin nian
Loser

[winged mesa]

crazy

[cold cargo]

Doesnt have nian = not a true sui lover

[winged mesa]

you should fund my delivery ith

[cold cargo]

Rn i can only fund a prayer

[acoustic edge]

Everybody in this server always asking others to fund but not a single funder to be found

[winged mesa]

amen

[uneven oar]

just use arts identifier bro, it's better than deliv, trust me

[rare kettle]

Wheres your m9 mod3 dusk, chong, ling, shu, yu?
Oh yea, u dont have then

[acoustic edge]

Beggars begging each other

[winged mesa]

everyone in this server is so mean </3

[cold cargo]

I have p2 nian

[winged mesa]

weong reply

[uneven oar]

:(

[cold cargo]

Meanie

[rare kettle]

Damn if only that mattered

[winged mesa]

blame fredi for moving the chat up

[rare kettle]

Damn you rena

[cold cargo]

It does

I can flex my nian on all the non nian havers

[rare kettle]

Wait thats too mean

[winged mesa]

fuck me yourself coward

[cold cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/nian-arknights-drip-gif-15395544444723470997

[uneven oar]

[rare kettle]

Dont threaten me with a good time

[uneven oar]

stanza on store 🤔

[rare kettle]

Do i get 2nd p5

[uneven oar]

i'm so close to greatness

what no deliv do to a mf

[lament nest]

Should I buy Chiv in store? I'm so tired of rolling randoms 🫩

[winged mesa]

sure...?

[uneven oar]

do you need it ?

[winged mesa]

sounds like they do

that or an enlightenment kdk

[uneven oar]

thank you mr beast

[lament nest]

Yes for xaihi,

[winged mesa]

goddamn can yall stop clicking on randomass links

[uneven oar]

i mean if your team needs it then grab it bruh

gambling is for losers 🙂‍↔️

[winged mesa]

gambling is for WINNERS

[hollow yew]

will there be any content that needs more than a team

[uneven oar]

me as i gamble for lupine scarlet

[lament nest]

It just costs too much.. 😮‍💨

[winged mesa]

99.99% OF GAMBLERS QUIT BEFORE THEY WIN BIG

[uneven oar]

2.4k isn't a lot bro

consider this

[winged mesa]

maybe yes maybe not

[uneven oar]

you spend 7.920 arsenal tickets for guaranteed 6* weapons and all you get is other stuff that you dont want

[hollow yew]

cuz its so useless to build a second team

[uneven oar]

me with 3 teams

[winged mesa]

then simply dont idk

[lament nest]

Me with 5 teams..

[winged mesa]

you get 7920 arsenal ticket to get dopamine
you spend 2480 arsenal ticket to be no fun

[uneven oar]

but are they built ?

[lament nest]

Yess

Zhuang,Laev, Avy,LR,Yvonne

[winged mesa]

me with just laev

[uneven oar]

like M12 upgraded ?

[lament nest]

Yepp

[uneven oar]

all 5 teams ? damn

[lament nest]

Even with 1% increase that costs too much of resources 😭

I kinda have ocd that's why..

[uneven oar]

is it worth investing in last rite without tangtang ?

[supple pollen]

do you want to?
yes? then yes
no? then no

[uneven oar]

[acoustic edge]

lr probs not even best mdps for tt

😭

[uneven oar]

ye i know but tt have been core to all cryo team at this point

[raw drum]

u can BUT u still need khrav
LR without khrav is very bricked ngl

[uneven sail]

Heyy I just got laevatain, what is the best team for her with the current characters?

I only got tang", pog, ardelia, and rossi

[raw drum]

Laev ardelia P5 wulf and antal

[uneven oar]

or you can check pinned

[raw drum]

Iana found dead in an alleyway

[uneven oar]

clown's had laev team

[uneven sail]

Uhh P5 ardelia is a bit...

[raw drum]

ids her update the 1st spreadsheet lol

[uneven oar]

p5 wulf lmao

[raw drum]

P5 wulf not ardelia

[uneven sail]

OHHHH sorryy

Noted" will develop them, thank youu

[raw drum]

ake & gilberta r also good for laev

[uneven sail]

Haven't got it, but looks like won't pull for her
Because the upcoming feranmut proxy and vampire

[raw drum]

sadge, everyone wants her bc of cc grouping and powerful ult debuff

i bet sui & the vampire dude would also have her in the team unless the devs made them phys lol

[uneven sail]

I do want her but as I'm a F2P player... I can't pull for everyone 😊

[grizzled marsh]

Tbf if u always win the 50/50, f2p can afford everyone

[winged mesa]

thats like the biggest IF

[grizzled marsh]

RIGHT

I lost the 50/50 like 3 times already, that makes cant get rossi

[winged mesa]

unrealistic and what they say also makes sense if they prefer to plan their pulls upon new unit that they like, nothing wrong with it

[grizzled marsh]

Only her that i dont have meh

[pearl rock]

What are the best gear options for Pog in a Rossi team?

[winged mesa]

Frontier stuff

[acoustic edge]

Iana said pogssi is dogshit

[winged mesa]

it is

[acoustic edge]

Ic

[raven badger]

Lmao

[acoustic edge]

I was gonna ask if someone found that it isn't

[winged mesa]

doesnt rly mean it doesnt work

[pearl rock]

Then what's the best Rossi team?

And who tf is lana tho

[winged mesa]

highest damage ceiling right now is rossi art

[acoustic edge]

For rossi mdps just full arts rossi tt gilb shenanigans

[winged mesa]

old theorycrafter, alrd quit

[pearl rock]

Can u write their full names please?

[uneven sail]

I'm not that brave to do that HAHAHAH

[raven badger]

Rossi, Tangtang, Gilberta

[pearl rock]

Thanks

[supple pollen]

its alright

more edge case since its 3phys 1art stuff

if not 4phys which is like whale privelege

[pearl rock]

Wht about the last one? Flex?

[grizzled marsh]

XDDD I did it for u man and ofc, it was a complete disaster

[raven badger]

I don’t know anything about the team, I was just saying the names that were there

[vagrant zinc]

do anyone know the recommanded gear set for fangyi?

[raven badger]

I haven’t looked at phys at all

[pearl rock]

Kk ty

[acoustic edge]

Rossina wulfperl; tangtang, chief of qinbo stockade; perlica, supervisor of endfield industries; gilberta

[raven badger]

Xiranflow

[vagrant zinc]

all?

[grizzled marsh]

Xiranite one with 1 lynx slab

[raven badger]

With lynx slab

[winged mesa]

Xiranflow + Lynx slab if full ult
Xiranflow + Xiranite Aux Arm if 0ult

either one usable in any content

[raven badger]

👍

I want another greatsword user

[winged mesa]

i want a new laev support that is also a hot tall woman

cant always get what we want now can we

[acoustic edge]

Realist shit ive ever heard

[raven badger]

I feel like someone has some unresolved issue in this category

I’m just saying what i want

[acoustic edge]

They are too

[raven badger]

I don’t expect to get it

[raven badger]

Yeah they are, but with sass

[celest solar]

is Delivery guarantee worth pulling?

[raven badger]

Prob not? I think

[grizzled marsh]

Not that much

But yes u can go for it if u want

[acoustic edge]

Can be but wouldn't generally recommend unless you are a heavy spender or have a particular usage in mind

[grizzled marsh]

Delivery its not bad at all but if we talk abt "worth" theres better choice for gibby

[uneven oar]

i feel like deliv isn't the greatest signature weapon out there, but IF there's a mono nature team then it's mandatory to use it

[supple pollen]

its not mandatory for mono nature

[uneven oar]

then what you'd use for a mono nature since stanza is out of the question ?

[winged mesa]

theres still opus, theres still deto unit

[supple pollen]

mainly deto

[uneven oar]

copus 🤔

[winged mesa]

opus p5 gives almost the same number of buff as p0 deliv

but the main choice will likely be deto

[acoustic edge]

Xaihi chiv gilb deto sui sig

Might be cooking

[uneven oar]

that's half of fluo dps team

[cosmic plume]

Still don't know why they made flourite the way she is. 38 sec cs cooldown

[acoustic edge]

4star unit

Atleast she isn't catcher

[winged mesa]

isnt this also half of any cryo or nature dps team

[uneven oar]

i dont play cryo... yet

i thought LR uses xai and ardel instead of gilb

[winged mesa]

lr can use gil

[steel rune]

Do you need to artifice Gil’s ult recharge at all?

[grizzled marsh]

Only uge yes

[winged mesa]

that depends

• do you need it for your rotation? then do
• do you have no specific rotation to follow? can always artifice for safe net

if you dont need it for your rotation then dont

[steel rune]

Idk yet since I just got her but probably not? I’ll see when I test her

[uneven oar]

God is hiring

[grizzled marsh]

Right

[winged mesa]

whats a JD

[grizzled marsh]

Jane Doe

God is looking for rats

[acoustic edge]

Lr with tt frequent uses gilb

[winged mesa]

ehh ion think so?

well i guess if ur a rly good pilot yeah

most average will use perli

[acoustic edge]

I promise its not hard

[cosmic plume]

Looks at antal and akekuri

[acoustic edge]

And even for non whels speedkilling trim bosses its faster

[winged mesa]

😭

[acoustic edge]

😭

[signal stirrup]

is it worth the investment to M3 Chen's combo skill?

[winged mesa]

1s off cd sounds huge

[acoustic edge]

Can be

A lot of phys mains turn into rot optimization freaks anyways

They'd sell their firstborn for half second off

[acoustic edge]

If you can pilot well enough to have an optimized rotation yes, absolutely

[winged mesa]

mult-wise its whatever
but if you feel like you need chen cs to be 1s faster then go ahead

[bright wolf]

Can someone please tell me how to play this team? Do I just spam battle skill on Zhuang or do I try to set up the reaction?

[signal stirrup]

I just want to hear Pog break Vuln stacks more often because I like his hit fx and sound design 🙏

[worthy estuary]

perlica bs gives electric stack
final attack on an electric stacked team activates zfy and perlica combo, giving enemy 2 stack of electrification
zfy bs consumes electrification

rinse repeat until zfy ult

during zfy ult, she can rotate alone. bs > fs > cs

[signal stirrup]

ty for the answers

[bright wolf]

Got it, thank you

[cold cargo]

Change perli weapon to wild wanderer

Stanza is useless on perli (only for zfy and avy teams)

[bright wolf]

Got it, thanks

[cold cargo]

Since she cant proc it for the mdps, requires different element operators

[uneven oar]

two stanzas in one team 😭

[bright wolf]

The more the merrier right

[winged mesa]

[undone hatch]

should i roll laev or save for next banner

[worthy estuary]

we have no clue of what the next banner is

[uneven oar]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-silverwolf-gacha-gif-2911843428636880091

[half plinth]

What equipment on gilberta and what abilities to level?

[worthy estuary]

i would only pull the JO banner if i have 120 pulls ready so i can guarantee

[uneven oar]

M1 ult and gear depends on team but usually redeemer chest + uge xiranite

[worthy estuary]

xiranite set. offpiece can be one redeemer seal. all UGE. weapon is stanza. give m1 on her ult and sl1 on everything else

[half plinth]

Using her with zhuang perc and arclight

[deft elbow]

Hi im new startin, i was wondering what team i should be using with this roster

[half plinth]

I got delivery guaranteed tho for weapon

[worthy estuary]

the only viable team you can make right now is endmin shatter. but its early game so anything works

[deft elbow]

Got it

[worthy estuary]

delivery is usually worse than stanza, unless you have a perlica running stanza in the same team

[half plinth]

Eternal xiranite or xiranflow set?

[worthy estuary]

eternal. the one that buff the team if she applies suscep

she is a support character, not a dps

[half plinth]

My bad my bad i dont know much about the team

[half plinth]

I see but stanza is useless in a zhuang team tho when equipped on perlica

[worthy estuary]

therefore perlica gets wild wanderer

so stanza is good on gilberta

[winged mesa]

weapon choices differ a lot per team

its not always a pair of stanza and delivery

[half plinth]

Yea ill change weapons

Damn it ion have any kits to level them up 😭

What about arclight what weapon does she use

[worthy estuary]

youre in luck. they dont need levels

[half plinth]

Obj edge?

[worthy estuary]

they just need essences

[worthy estuary]

thermite blade if you have it

[half plinth]

Is it a 6 star?

[worthy estuary]

yes

[half plinth]

Thanks to kyo i have plenty of essence farming tickets now so it should be a bit easier

What about this one

[worthy estuary]

if you dont have thermite, thats a viable option

[half plinth]

Ill see if the weapon selection boxes have thermite

Also what skills do i level for gilberta

[worthy estuary]

ult, m1. thats it

she needs nothing else

[half plinth]

Okay thanks a lott

Sorry i didnt see you said it before already 😭

[pearl surge]

my whole body itching for make cs m3 gilb

[lethal tapir]

Lol ofcourse they put Chiv in the shop just after I used my box I was saving to p5 mine

As soon as I p5 Thermite its going in the shop too

[pearl surge]

i don't understand the whale problem

[trail phoenix]

Last rite + tang tang or phys team with Pog for a beginner acc?

[acoustic edge]

Lr tt has higher ceiling but

Phys probably feels better for progression

[lethal tapir]

LR is more difficult than Pog but TT also cheeses literally everything so its probably not a big deal

[pearl surge]

lr tt is not exactly beginner friendly, or perhaps it is

LR teach you skill, pog teach you rotation, pick your poison

[trail phoenix]

I kinda have played the game before but I messed up my last acc so im restarting

I used to play Laev so idk anything about crio

[lethal tapir]

How do you mess up an account? Did you dump all the launch pulls onto the standard banner? Cuz that's about the only thing you could do that'd be worth restarting accounts

[trail phoenix]

Spent all my stuff on Yvonne banner trying to get Gilberta but ended up with no gilby and a P3 Yvonne

[acoustic edge]

Why couldn't you just wait for gilb banner

It was right after yvonne no?

[trail phoenix]

before

[winged mesa]

gilb banner is right before

[lethal tapir]

Well, that's still not a messed up account, you could have just waited for Gil's rerun and had a p3 Yvonne to cheese everything in game. I guess its up to you at the end of the day, poor p3 Yvonne account just left to rot

[acoustic edge]

Ic

[trail phoenix]

Yeah idk if theres much to do there, I log
in the acc few days ago to spend the last oroberyl and got Fangyi at 60 pity

[winged mesa]

whats a theonite

[worthy estuary]

new currency

[trail phoenix]

messed up lol

theonite is the currency from skullgirls mobile

i think ill check my old account to see if I keep playing with it

[lethal tapir]

I'd say so, a p3 Yvonne is pretty sick. Even if you didnt get her weapon its fine cuz Wedge does just as good at p4+, which might seem like a lot but there's no time limit to get that.

[trail phoenix]

tbh im just being petty

[winged mesa]

its all salvagable if youre willing to put the effort in, game is only 4 months old

[trail phoenix]

I kid you not that account is blessed, never lost a 50/50

im just petty that ill have no pulls for future characters that I like, like Mifu

[lethal tapir]

You get more pulls each patch with new content and events

[trail phoenix]

but idk, might work on renewing that mindset

[lethal tapir]

esp if you win every 50/50

Not that you should count on that

[lapis galleon]

guys team for rossi?

[primal sparrow]

Rossi, TangTang, Perlica and Gilberta I'd say

[worthy estuary]

Lae Wulf Rossi Gil

[lapis galleon]

no tangtang and gil :<

i have every other chars tho

[winged mesa]

#team-build message

[supple pollen]

i really should replace that

but like not enough char space

ig its fine

[winged mesa]

you can send a new message and we start linking that

[primal sparrow]

Need more than 5 team build slots tbh

[winged mesa]

i jjust cba to explain team choices for rossi

[worthy estuary]

Lae Wulf Ake Rossi

[supple pollen]

id need like 4 messages back to back maybe more to write the bare minimum

aint worth the effort, might as well make an entire doc for it atp

[worthy estuary]

we do wallposts in AKO in the past

just go for it

[supple pollen]

i also you know

dont want to spend 4 hours writing it up

probably an underestimate

[lapis galleon]

can i use other kit for perlica instead of these 2 kits

[supple pollen]

you can offpiece a kit for uge or damage if you want

other qingbo kits arent worth it

[lapis galleon]

i think this is good? or lynx slab

[winged mesa]

this si fine

[lapis galleon]

redeemer seal fine right?

[winged mesa]

ye

[brisk skiff]

guys should i always set up my character's gear to focus on their main attribute?

[lapis galleon]

lynx slab is bad for rossi?

[undone hatch]

what do i need for gilberta fangyi team

[plucky marsh]

I tried Gil at 216 UGE and she missed 1 energy to get her ult per 2cs, that's pure insane lol

[supple pollen]

It's fine, most people will prefer the cr kit for general gameplay
Doesnt change much for higher pot speedrunning but with pots slab offpiece is decent enough

Mostly just that on set gloves are pretty w/e

[supple pollen]

Always? No
But we do try to chase it
Some units will choose to take a piece that doesn't benefit their main attribute much if at all for various reasons
It's a safe starting point for dps units at least

[lethal tapir]

Depends on what you're trying to clear honestly.

[brisk current]

A pair of hands would suffice

[lapis galleon]

is this ok

[plucky marsh]

I'm also running her like this, fully built with Gil too and she comes out quite decent

[lapis galleon]

sadly gil less haha

[brisk skiff]

Okay thanks

[plucky marsh]

Just finished testing Rossi out today since I decided to roll for Gil too hehe, it was kinda worth it because now I have 3 maxed out team ready for CC and enough arsenal tickets for the next ops sig

[lapis galleon]

no tangtang no gil , which team comp is good for her. is she supposed to play like a physical or art ulti bust?

[plucky marsh]

I was Gilless before today too, and Rossi was so mid that I barely use her in any modes lol, hoping it would change now that I am no longer Giless

[winged mesa]

she can be played in either ways

if you dont have gil theres teams like Rossi Ake Endmin Chen

[plucky marsh]

Didnt this person give you the answer already?

[proud hearth]

Yo what's the best team for last rite that doesn't include tangtang?

[uneven oar]

check pinned

[plucky marsh]

I ran Gilless Rossie with Ake endmin and Pog for very good SP gen so I can have breach and Rossi Endmin split damage running at most of the time

[uneven oar]

mono LR team iirc is LR, xaihi perlica and ardel/gilb

[undone hatch]

what kit should i use

[lapis galleon]

ill try endmin chen rossi pog

[plucky marsh]

Is Yvonne somehow die and nobody paid attention? Because it's been A WHILE since someone talked about her, and most people would ask about LR more now too

[plucky marsh]

you need 1 ops that can generate art infliction such as Ake or Wulfgard

[supple pollen]

LR is standard, Yvonne is not offrateable nor is she currently rate up
only natural newer players asking for advice will get the former not the latter

[proud hearth]

I have yvonne i just dont want to use her lmao

[plucky marsh]

But not a single video showcasing her speedrunning modes too. And I hope it stays that way because I really hate her hehe

[supple pollen]

'new' style speedrunning doesnt bias yvonne anymore

since you have to sit through her ult cast time into rhodagn

and other units are faster for other content

she still owns the on aggro record for rhodagn, ignoring bug abuse, afaik

[winged mesa]

there still are speedrun videos, just not as common as fangyi rossi whale teams

[uneven oar]

damn what did yvonne did to you guys ? got spooked at 50/50 ?

[sweet shoal]

can i get some suggestions on operators to start building in prep of cc? i could prepare a last rite team and a phys team atp

[winged mesa]

we have 0 information on cc to be able to help you

[supple pollen]

we have no clue what CC does, just stockpile the resources generically dont spend them

[uneven oar]

nobody know wtf CC is bru

[supple pollen]

there is 0 reason to presend the resources lol

wait and see what the mode actually is, spend as necessary

[uneven oar]

or just M12 fluorite, she'll be meta trust

[sweet shoal]

thats a good advice, thank you

[winged mesa]

players are allergic to inventory having items

[sweet shoal]

well i wanted a second team i can start playing and get used to, prepping for cc is a secondary outcome of that

[uneven oar]

and you're allergic on spending them

well just pick whatever you want to play then

[winged mesa]

im not allergic im waiting for the game to make me spend them

im literally prepping for a new unit that i like to immediately m12 them like fangyi

[sweet shoal]

well, kinda wanted opinions on how phys team feels and how last rite feels

[winged mesa]

thats subjective

cant really say much as each team will feel different to each players

[uneven oar]

dont play last rite but phys are just constant dps while most hypercarry are burst dps

[sweet shoal]

what are you playing on your phys team?

[uneven oar]

not something i'd recommend to anyone tho

[sweet shoal]

haha why not

[uneven oar]

better off slotting twinkman instead of ember

[sweet shoal]

not the twinkman

[pearl surge]

as phy and also former LR player, i have more fun on phy, but not as satisfying as LR

[plucky marsh]

they showed exactly 10second of CC in their devlog with zero explanation and release date, so pretty safe to say we are still fine and meta drought for the time being

[pearl surge]

this is why i want khrav so i can play LR again in my main account

[uneven oar]

femboy give phys susceptibility while ember is just vuln applier like chen, the upside are rotation are usually 4/4/4 but very SP hungry at times

[pearl surge]

even without TT

[sweet shoal]

what makes LR sattisfying for you?

i rly like how GS feels in this game

feels heavy

[uneven oar]

it's actually 38 seconds

[pearl surge]

that is the answer, also, since for LR, you got rewarded by being consistent

[sweet shoal]

you feel like not having her sig is what makes u have more fun on phys team?

[plucky marsh]

What was CC like in OG A9, was it like a tower stages climbing type of mode or is it the same as endgame modes in other gacha games

[winged mesa]

its simiilar, you pick your own chalenges

[uneven oar]

for maximum LR potential you'd want her at P3 with her signature weapons

[winged mesa]

1 stage for 2 weeks + like rotating stage daily

[sweet shoal]

you feel like tangtang needs her sig?

[pearl surge]

rotating stage daily, 1 stage is stage where you pick your maximum risk

[supple pollen]

One main stage + usually 4 side stages

Debuffs chosen to gain points, usually point goal at ~60% of max for all rewards

complete the side stages to get extra debuffs on main stage

[uneven oar]

dont have tangtang but most people said for subdps not really mandatory, battlepass weapon good enough

[ripe comet]

what does LR mean

[pearl surge]

TT sig give debuff, and for other, give debuff is better than only dps weapon

[uneven oar]

lastrite

[ripe comet]

ah ok thx

[uneven oar]

DID YOU KNOW writing last rite on team name will just give you the innapropriate name error

[ripe comet]

but u just wrote it

ohhhh in game

[supple pollen]

Are you sure it's not the space

[ripe comet]

LOL shes too lewd

[uneven oar]

nvm the game just hate space

shit ass game

[sacred mica]

[uneven oar]

i'm gonna M12 perlica next

[winged mesa]

just like how its been since ogak

[pearl surge]

i just like to shortcut name, last rite to LR, zhuang fangyi to zf

da pan is da pan

[primal sparrow]

gotta level some of chars still but I suppose rate my teams

Still need to get Zhaung her weapon still, manage to get Gilberta and Lae weapon without pity only 3 pulls each

[uneven oar]

akecurry ?

on physical team ?

[sacred mica]

I like ur lr team

That phy team looks cope as hell tho

[meager plinth]

Can I put Pog for now? I have Gil but I still haven’t finished build her

[uneven oar]

you do NOT slander my ember

[sacred mica]

[cold cargo]

No just put antal

[primal sparrow]

Yeah my Phys team is my beginning team when I started out new I haven't really adjusted it since, though am open to recommendations.

[uneven oar]

just need poggy woggy

instead of curry

[meager plinth]

He lvl 40 I’ll just wait until I finish Gil build

[primal sparrow]

I don't have pog lmao

[cold cargo]

A 40lv antal does the same thing that a lv90 antal does

[primal sparrow]

I ironically never pulled him

[cold cargo]

Just at lower values

[sacred mica]

Phy no pog is not pog

Pun intended

[meager plinth]

Hmmm okay

[cold cargo]

While pog in zfy team just sits around being fucking useless

I love it when my pog buffs my teams physical dmg when my main dps is doing electric dmg

[uneven oar]

what are you on about

program, breach his balls

[cold cargo]

Fredi, block this man

[uneven oar]

[cold cargo]

Larvantaein, go nuclear

[sacred mica]

Man... I feel bored again

[winged mesa]

play another game idk

[humble drift]

Find a secondary hobby that can give u piece of mind

[uneven oar]

i am enjoying a piece of pencil lead

[pearl surge]

you eat that?

[uneven oar]

yessir

[mint cradle]

hello guys are there any characters that give basic attack damage buffs?

[uneven oar]

nnnnnnnnnno?

[mint cradle]

thanks

[sacred mica]

Gimme a suggestion that won't eat too much time

[sacred mica]

Wym by that?

[uneven oar]

i mean yvonne buffs her own basic attack no ?

[winged mesa]

ex astris

[mint cradle]

buffs that increase damage dealt by basic attacks(not physical damage)

[sacred mica]

I mean if the question is buffing ur basic atk dmg, there r plenty of chara doing that

[uneven oar]

stanza

[sacred mica]

Amp, dmg bonus that buff whatever ur basic atk is, dmg taken technically increases it too, atk%, etc etc

Literally any dmg source increases it...?

[sacred mica]

Oh wats dat

[uneven oar]

hg other game after arknights

[pearl surge]

not basic attack buff, but, we have enhanced basic attack

[sacred mica]

Oh, it's a paid game, interesting

[plucky bobcat]

Hello everyone, does anyone know how link interacts with Surtr’s ult?

[drifting narwhal]

Doesn't work, you just waste the link

[sacred mica]

Does nothing

[plucky bobcat]

Thanks

[winged mesa]

does something results nothing