#team-build
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Isnt Rossi mostly an arts burst unit
this has got to be more than 30% of people unironically after getting gilb yesterday 😭
lowkey kind of fun 
lots of ways to play rossi
Yo what potential is that oblivion
you're helping, time to do it now!!!
Im very biased towards avywenna and electric team
hmm i can farm this shit now
1.8 😂
there goes my 2.4k 
everything for xaihi
TRUKE!!!!!!!!!
did you see my dps xaihi 
i lurked a bit yes 😭
i've been tempted to go get p2p2 but the banner is genuinely so shit for me
no obj razerhorn in shop 💔
ping s.lnn before you gamble
he's like a good luck charm as long as you have cryo units built
nah i won't, i'll wait her dedicated rerun.....
can confirm, got her at 19 pity on permanent 
Yeah, almost physical team, I put zhuangyi as the 4th because she’s kawaii
ember glazer 💔
march on!
87m amazing
want my ember too?
yes give me
🫳

hey!!!!!!!!!!! be more careful!!!!!!!!!!
Wanna ask, any changes i should make in my team and gears?
she's got mech armor stuff covering like a quarter of a body she'll be fine
no, not really, the only possible change would be Thermite Cutter for Akekuri and change the chest of Gilb for more UGE
perlica's gloves too if you're minmaxing
but it doesn't really matter
also m1 gilb's ult
Bonebreaker poncho t1, tidal fall light armor or another armor?
What gloves do you recommend for her?
redeemer
she may need additional ult gain from gloves depending on your rotation
Im using her in rossi arts team
rotations end up changing a little on every boss/umbral stage
if you can get her ult up for stanza during rossi's burst it's fine
So, I got Laevatainn and Rossi as random pulls when pulling for other characters. Are either of them worth building, considering I already have 2 teams(OG Phys team and Fangyi team) and only have 6k arsenal currency? Also don't have Gilberta.
rossi is kinda worthy ig?
Both are. Rossi can steal a bunch of partners from physical or your fangyi team
But laevi the standard laevatain teams is wulfguard, akekuri and ardelia
So you'd have to build them up to at least elite 3 (60/80)
Are Gilbertaless Rossi teams worth using over regular phys team?
How so?
Both are very good. Laevatain in single and aoe as a sustained dmg dealer, while rossi (at least in full arts team) is a single target burst dps.
Realistically I can't build both though, I don't think, cause of the weapon situation
Rossi should be easier to build
tbh i'd tell u to save in this case
Does Gilberta weapon need the maxed UGE stat or is a specific level fine?
Given her flexibility of partners. And if you have glorious memory. But if you don't feel like building either, just hold off for now
yes
This use of rossi requires gilberta, no?
Yes. Gilberta definitely makes things alot better, but gilberta-less teams can still perform very well
finally got m6 on tt
u have to max the uge on her sig if u want more arts building on the gears

Better than traditional full phys team?
I don't know
not rly
I don't know the dmg ceiling for either team
I think monophys still better a bit than rossi hyper
She's using the UGE Xira set pieces atm, that's what got me curious
There's probably some calculations of it somewhere. Don't want to give u an answer based off of vibes
Ok so rossi is a pass, Laev is completely redundant also since I have fangyi already, right?
u can change her gear into arts if ur using her sig cuz she would have a bunch of uge already w sig
Idk if I'd use the word redundant but sure
Chivalric virtue is in the shop, do yall think it’s worth picking it up? Side note, I do not own it yet
for now, only xaihi that works very well with that so if u playing cyro team yes worth
i dont think lae has a good performance atm cuz shez kinda weak to the current umbral's mech but u could save for her supports if u still wanna give her a shot
Rlly? Which stage in particular?
6
Who are her supports? Or do you mean not yet released operators?

Ardelia akekuri wulfguard
I do have a cryo team but has been benched for now for ZFY
i meant abt not yet released ops
That's suprising. I figure you just dodge well and manage resources and you're fine
Gotcha. Yeah, the problem with that is the weapon situation :/
I'm prob gonna focus my pulls on my phys and fangyi team instead
Man, getting off banners in this game kinda sucks ngl
physical, cryo, Laevatain or eletric. I don't think any of the main teams for these elements should struggle
a lot of dodging ngl
I reset that stage 7 times b4 I cleared with fangyi. Needed to better time my battle skills so i wouldn't be in the line of fire and just get frozen
i've tried w avy's mono elec team and same performance
yeah u can just save up ur arsenal then, wait for better zf supporters should be fine
I need to try it with avy. Just need to not use her as CO. Tidalklast moves too much so she'll whiff her final strikes
fr
luckily that i have a bit spares of weapons in avy's team so it wasnt too hard for me
What weapon would you guys recommend for Pog if you dont have Thermite or sig?
fortmaker kek
Thank you
OBJ edge of lightness
Discount bargain bin thermite
why would pog be using obj 
rossi doesnt have such requirement but she indeed preferably more burst setup with gilberta
If you ain't got thermite or sig its a bargain bin option
Yeah I'm just benching laev and rossi. Pulling off banners in this game is so useless 😭
even repute pog sound better
Idk man nothin shiny
n u call this better?
well the game doesnt have rock paper scissors element weakness system, so they kinda encourage you to play character that u comfy with n maximize them
and pray tell how the fuck would physical or pog benefit from obj
Yeah, but "maximizing" them involves getting their sig, which you can't do unless you pull a lot T_T
I could pull for Gilberta and then get Rossi's sig, but I think I'll just save for upcoming characters
i dont think obj would work on pog tbh
is this gearset good for pog? should i artifice it?
gilberta doesnt need her sig
But rossi does
i was using clown team guide but theres no a physical one :(
pog rossie?
no, lifeng endmin and chen :o
go sm/hw
okay ty
go with this
also should i gamble for lifeng sig? cuz i dont have valiant and i only got chimeric justice 😔
nah just use chimeric till u get valiant from weekly shop tbh
kay
Yeah, most of the team's dmg is from endmin/chen, no need to invest that much into lifeng
@wet moat runs chimeric over valiant/mountain bearer anyway lol
oi im still fishing for mb
oh yeah, bp weapon is better than sundering steel? for chen?
P2+ bp weapon is better than p5 sundering yeah
If only sundering didnt look so dookie
frfr
Which BP weapon for chen, btw? Red one or the other one?
glorious
glprious
why da heck u want umbrl on chen
aura
Ah, then I only have that one p1 lol
I haven't bought any BPs, so I don't think I have it
umbral torch p5 or scythe p0?
scyte?
oh its still forgeborn iirc
ofc sig
Is the bp weapon better than rapid ascent p1?
:o
gm basically more generalist than rascent
maybe someday umbral torch will leave my stash 🥀
u cant stagger == lol rascent 
Gm? Yes by a bit
Where is this from?
catalystonline
r9? r5 is not max?
r4 == p0
why
uhhh
i dont get it
Cause the unique skill is at rank 4 when p0
3rd line 4/9 and 9/9
there
oh that
Which team is stronger to main?
Fangyi- perlica- arclight- gilberta
Or
Pog-lifeng - endmin - chen
Both are good, whichever you like more
ask ur D
If you like men, go with phys
If you like woman, go electric
Oh demn read tbat aoe is hell for physical
pysical literally got 2 ulti with grouping effect
anything is hell if you cant pilot them anyways
Fangyi team is easier to build and play, but both teams are very strong, so build Fangyi first and then phys imo
there goes your resources for the next two patches
Not really, we got a lot of sanity lately
Does the 😂 reacting guy know ball or just doing it for shits and giggles
I assume obj razorhorn is estella's best weapon? or is valiant
shes just a subdps combo bot on this team so
both valiant and jet should be a little better just cause of the higher base atk
i mean if you have those 6 star spears just use them. Obj gotta be maxed etched to be close
Jet doesn't really need to etch 3rd line and valiant doesn't need 1st line so kinda saves you etch farming
does the base atk still outperform the will>atk conversion
it should
surprising
I'm fairly sure Jet is at least slightly better than obj and valiant is situationally on par with Jet
dont see how jet is ever good tbh
with Jet being a better stat stick but valiant just making up the difference with the passive procs
she doesnt deal arts dmg
atk% is a broken stat
oh right valiant has it on 3rd
yeah this is why i said etching jet 3rd line doesn't matter
so lower ceiling
they both have completely dead etching lines lmao
estella damage dealing weapon options kinda cursed
I mean I have lifeng and avywenna that use them so I'm maxing them regardless
obj too weak, 6 star spears just aren't made for her. everything sucks
well they're all pretty close so if she's not your main dps then you can probably use any of the 3
obj does have the 33.6% atk + actual etching lines + main stat
but ik valiant is just a super good weapon
obj? do you even want estella to consume solidification?
90 extra base attack is no joke. You end up with like 800 base attack so it's not a small portion
in this team yes
jet by itself has
main attribute+
39% atk
89 more base atk than obj
the no atk% of valiant outside of 3rd line feels bad for her ngl
another 192% multiplier seems spicy tho
no
dunno if that does stagger but even without it seems nice
192% of estella's atk
ik
just feels bad when the atk gets quite low since its agility
have neither of the weapons maxed so kinda hard for me to calc sadly
if you already have a rotation in mind you can do sheet calc
dunno how to as ive never done it, was just gonna compare effective multipliers
to see how high the difference is if any

You'd kind of have to just sheet it to compare jet vs valiant because you have to account for the valiant procs
If you're just looking at raw stats jet is higher
yea fair enough
i mean tbf both are worth building so ill just put on her what i build first when the normal holder isnt active
Also another thing to consider is just that Valiant pots are better so if it's a max pot valiant, valiant would win more of the time
although i doubt that's what you're considering
ya good point
A good chunk of valiant value is the phys damage dealt % on second line too and that would diminish in value if your setup has a lot of damage% buffs already
oh nah not really afaik
only other amper is gilberta who is there for grouping & tangtang damage
So like you'd ideally want to account for buffs, whether your rotation is more frequent shatters (more valiant procs) or big shatters(more value from stat stick), and what pots you have
but really if she's not your main dps it probably doesn't matter so just pick whatever
I assume more frequent is just shatter on estella's combo skill cd right LOL
since thats what im aiming for generally partially becasue of alesh being there = more sp
havent really tried this on bosses yet though so i have no clue what to do there for rotation yet, just really fun doing this on umbral monument aoe stages
yeah frequent shatters is probably more realistic than saving up for some goofy 4 stack shatter unless you're trying to flex a screenshot
ahh like that okay yea makes sense
Did something supid by
Using all my pulls for gilberta in this banner
Now i need to use her in my fangyi team
I'd just have waited for a new character that fits either team better, but gilberta isn't bad. I'm sure it'll pay off eventually
it can if youre playing monophysical 
Yeah, my two teams are mono phys and fangyi team, neither of which use gilberta well, so I'll just hold on for a better fit
She uses gilberta. Well is another story xD She does not fit the team very well, I'm sure another support will come soon that'll be better than her for FY
Yes it does fit well since gilberta whole purpose is to help in burst dps
You are way more likely to replace arclight than gilberta
What changes in the Xira set if I got Gilberta signature? She's using 3p Xira with the INT + UGE chest
cant say for sure until we get said unit
wheres the cryo super fan
you can stay this way if you want to be doing 2ults faster
another option is to change it to 3pc xiranite + hotwork cartridge for arts intensity
If you take faster clears = better, the chance of gil getting replaced is pretty small
i mean theres a lot more factor to consider but sure ig
if we are doign just purely one cycle we will replace arc anyways
the more buffs we can get easily in 1 cycle the better value the unit gets
but this wont apply to every single scenario nor every single person
until we get said unit theres no saying who will get replaced
I use her on Avy team and on Tang team, would the AI help there?
Probably on the Tang one, right
doing corrosion with her would make ai has value anyways
Im fucked if mi fu up being a fangyi team core
I would say there isnt that much factors due to sp hungry nature
You need to do free shit for fangyi or generate more sp for her
It really depends if they release a vanguard for her first or a dmg support. She needs sp, so arclight is only being replaced by another vanguard in most cases
Or theres a better perlica replacement
There just isnt much options since fang yi wants all the sp and gilberta is an insane free dmg support
does anyone main yvonne here
Yvonne alesh
This
Oh hi
I’m outside rn I can’t record 
I’ll make a burst rot sample when I get back
charge rotation is just, 2 Xai cs into bs, repeat twice
Funnily enough alesh gets ult back even without using his cs bc of his talent 
do i use stanza for perl if i use her in yvon team
no ur name is cryo
yeah
hi cryoman i am No.2
“I am the sole authority of Kjerag cryo”
Middle name Ember, last name Glazer
Nice to meet u miss Glazer
I’m Superfan, Cryo Superfan
do i only use xai and yvon bs
charge rot, yeah, just use xai and Yvonne bs
That’s pretty much all you can use to get stacks in that team anw
Alesh ult during Yvonne’s ult to help with SP and burst damage
perl gear is qinbo set with ai off piece?
Pulser 3pc (ai) with xira gloves t1 (ult gain)
max ai perlica
since you care about charge rotations, I’m assuming u wanna sync ults up, hence uge gloves
If purely burstmaxxing then yes ai gloves
why pulser doe
30ai set bonus
and you don’t need qingbo
Perlica only needs to cs once every cycle with yvonne
not like fangyi where her cs is high demand
ok
perlica cs on tianshi doesn't get to use its effect as yes insta consume by tianshi
But pulser would be the “optimal” pick I guess
All that AI in qingbo and its a half dead stat 
simple speaking
they did it for qb Gil 
well, yes yes brain methods
ange qinbao on tianshi??

Nah not tianshi
My alesh dpss 
I can’t wait till multi team content
I need to fulfill my need to bring 2 busted teams to burst down bosses
Ok I’m off, I’ll ping u once I make a burst rotation sample for ur team, that ok?
Maybe in a few h once I get home
ok
p0 yvon p0 artzy
It doesn't really matter, but technically an unupgraded weapon is P1. P0 would be not having the weapon xD
p1 on ak == p0 on endfield
Oh, you're right actually, nevermind then xD
I just realised the character potential thing actually says 0/5
Tought it was like in OG
what weapon to use for gilberta if i slot her into my fangyi team as 4th slot?
should i t ry and pull for her sig?
stanza should be perfectly sufficient
i'd not tell u to use gil in zfy team unless ur fighting boss only
F already used 120 pulls to get her
Stanza provides a better buff, but Gil's sig provides UGE which is crucial if you want to get her ult back in 20s for certain speed runs. If you don't care about that though its easily skippable.
stanza still fine
but if u want more arts for gilb and stil have enough uge get her sig
Well. it'll be easy to get p5 sooner than later since its only a 5 star. Don't worry about it
get p5 and ur fine
i think i can do 5 pulls but no enough to guarantee
Wanna ask, whats the recommended rotation for this team?
Oh wait
for gilberta
We're talking about Gil here ignore that
yeah gil
I just saw Zhuang's weapon and went smooth brain I guess lol
Yea if you don't have a guarantee then I wouldn't risk it. Gil's sig isnt good enough that its worth the risk of not getting it and wasting all those arsenal pulls
bruh 1 second late
aight will; jsut stick to stanza
I’m 4 seconds off, fml
Yes, Laeva P1 for freeeeee, I am now 3%stronger
pain
Help, is this team lineup for rossi correct? or there's better lineup for her
ur planing for hybrid or hyper?
Tbh I dont know which is the best, hybrid or hyper
hyper for nuke and hybrid can run longer ig
like for the contents that need to be long
Okiie, may I ask what's the optimal lineup for hyper?
Do you have tangtang?
Yes
I think bis rossi team uses tt and gilb, off the top of my head flex is perli but i might be wrong
@undone coral @undone coral
im using rossi, endmin, perlica, gilb for hyper
Okay thank you guys ❤️
Endmin probably gives split dmg windows which can be nice but i believe elemental rossi carry is highest ceiling
make senses
ardelia or gilberta for lae team?

Mb og
if you just want to burst then you usually bring tang2+gil
Ard has more consistent performance against bosses and chonkers
But takes some sp and loses in short burst windows
So for a lot of umbral or regular encounters or speedkills gilb is often preferable
alrr thankss
Also if you need ard healing is nice qol

They were asking bis rossi team

I told them rossi gilb tt perli
But wasn't certain
its the usual team yes
comes down to preference but current low potential team is Rossi/Gilberta/Perlica/Tangtang
no relevancy upon tangtang but she has good numbers
What about endmin on her rooster?
works
What's the whel general use rossi team
fsngyi
Sadly fangyi hasnt come home to me
Ive also seen some blokes run laev rossi but no clue how ts works
again 
laev rossi needs a lot of workaround
if you cant pilot well it might become a problem thay will bite your ass back more than it will do good
also requires wulf p5 fo have a sustainable stacking
and personally wulf solo stacking is miserable because of his ebs
How does rossi shatter long timeline numbers compare to normal elemental rossi comp
So far this is my available rooster
I think hifumi was using it for speedkills or sum
idk rossi shatter stuff prob better to ask hifumi
But speedkills and extended rots/general use if very diff
rooster 🐔 🐔
personally id recommend the team i mentioned earlier, its an easy team to pilot
rossie tang2 ange perlica 
Aight Imma try it, thank you
What weapon ya guys use for perlica?
stanza or deto unit
I have both
Obj gun + xira slave 
either works
Both works for rossi team?
ye
by using 200sp
tangtang cs can proc by arts burst
if you want to do 3 nado you can instead do 2x perli bs after the first tt bs
simple rotation goes like
tt bs > tt cs > fs > perli cs > gil cs > rossi cs > perli bs > perli bs > tt cs > rossi bs > ult mayhem
r u cryo main
i have general knowledge not in depth knowledge of cryo
since the person whose main is gone
Hello I just got Fangyi and I need to choose between her sig and the one from the pass
Atm I am stumped
I wad thinking of getting tangTang's sig as I have 3 more 10 pulls to guarantee
So I though of pulling Fangyi's sig later. But I wanna make her perform well
What do u need for cryo
Anything not yvonne i can probs help 
its about yvonne
TT

Rena is the yvonnizer
TT sig will be gone
Ask them
I believe that's just int maxxing
Who's the best unit in the Fest of Brilliance?
Cause yvonne comp doesn't require xaihi to build ult super fast
do i int max with xiranite gear effect
im using f2p team
Can you list out all 4
im not 😭
people who pull on fest, only want 1 character, and that is gilb
Xaihi only uses xira on yvonne if no one else can
For example yvonne tt xaihi perlica
But comps like yvonne xaihi perlica gilberta or yvonne tt xaihi perlica xaihi doesn't go for 3x eternal
@slender ore whats the 4 you use
yvon, xai, perli, ales
ttless and gilbless 
well, u can use yvonne chen lr on dijang 
I got her in 60 pulls should I continue for the selector?
Redeemer armor with eternal gloves and 2x eternal kit
do you want anyone else on the banner
All int main
I got P1 Pog, P0 Laev and Ardelia
lots of argument to continue but in short if you arent targetting for a potential or anything it might just not be worth
probably not then
especially if you’re f2p
or a low spender
so which xiranite kit i use
Tho actually 3x eternal including chest and using 1x secondary att frontiers might give more int
the uge or treatment
But i can't be asked to calc allat rn
Uge ig
Neither does much with that comp
Uge will be a bit of qol
Xaihi hardly heals with amp setup to start with
hey folks i kind of want to build a damage dealing ember but i don't really know what armor to wear
sm set + yl heavy
thanks bro
Ember is weird af cause her biggest mult is ult but ult is heat dmg
When shes a phys unit

shes a heat unit
You are right
only that she deals phys dmg in half of her kit 
Yeah
oh wait she'd be pretty good with rossi then right?
no
Shes never good in any team dmg number wise
aww
She gives you rly good survivability if you need it tho
she can work sure
nah
replace lifeng in phys team for some new fresh air
before returning to lifeng again.
Ember is for the handless and for those who can't be asked to use their hands
i've already maxed my main teams like yvonne, rossi and fangyi so i just wanna explore phys teams
lifeng is the more superior choice
Trad phys is endmin chen lifeng pogran
ember is technically good for umbral monument
ember is unfortunately not bringing a lot to the general loop of phys teams
before people starting to bruteforce it 
anything is good for umbral that shit easy if you can pilot a team
the early stage of umbral
the stage with gas that continously drain hp
ive done all umbral with laev team shrugs
people have also cleared this with solo chen
'bruteforce' when the enemy is squishy and we are hitting more than what we rly need to
Content is just rly lenient rn
it looks so fun just bonking enemies and seeing big number go boom
With enough skill you can do everything with literally whatever
And even without much skill any half decent comp clears
catcher solo lesgo baby
parry the world
Ember hot
Next question
Is it worth getting Ember or Last Rite from the selector, or do I just get P1 Pog or something? I have all the limited 6-stars so far except Laevaetin
p1 pog
Dont p1 pog
I figure Ember / Last Rite would be more collecting at this point
last rite is crazy bro
doesnt seem you have anything of worth, keep it until you need it
i wish i built her instead of yvonne
is Last Rite better than Yvonne tho
no
Depending on content, yes
they all perform just as strong situationally
Scythes are cool as hell tho
its so hard to be objective when headcanon exists
lol idk if any of this is real advice besides "keep it until you need it"
ok I'll finish building who I have already lol
Lr is a bit less clunky
But neither exactly feels too smoothe anyhow
Yvonne ult is self inflicted cc basically and you need to line everything up to hit it all
it is pretty much how it always goes for these selectors without an end date
go back fishing king relics
Lrs buildup is slow and it feels like her fs gets dodged every other time
if you dont need it theres no need to immediately be using it
And tt helps both of them by existing
Xaihi is alr half of cryo dmg 
heat xaihi whenn
Never hopefully
never\
That would be the start of genshin level powercreep
Heat xaihi release = rossi doing 6m dmg per ult
Heat xaihi with 6 star upscaling from cryo xaihi
Limited unit upscale too and potential upscale as well
heat xaihi for 15s would go insane for laev batk
Would have a sig that dwarfs deto unit
heat support when
Xaihi is alr doing 70% amp that shi be 150% 
I need another Xaihi that focuses on ult damage so I can make Alesh do a bazillion damage per ult
i pray that vampire twink is heat vanguard
OLHA, PEGUEI
This message deserves 20 c7s
sig now gives fragile or some shit
heat xaihi that can corroramp 
I pray that mifu is nature dps
This message deserves help ban

which elements/roles have we not gotten
Cryo support
unalife urself
we need to dip you into xiranite again
will be nature support
Double glazed xiranite donut 🤤
Or cryo
Yea i agree
physical caster

tomimi exist

u fuck
I got an encounter that said -100light or +2 hope
I picked -100 light
otw emergency ubi noma somnia
Should I gacha in one of these banner? Or just save up for now? Currently using this team
If you plan on keeping phys i wouldn't
Wait ceylon gives status resistance
Is3 is ceylon upscale
babygirl seeing usage?!
I'm thinking about building a team with Gilberta or Rossi
Maybe Yonne and laevatain
Game forced her on me 
Then go for it
which one?
I’d say that u are still doing a 50/50 because u could get more pogs or Ardelia so there’s tht risk
But if u plan on ever making a team that isn’t physical, Gilberta will probably be there smiling at you
For now physical team keep me alive and clear content
For context, here are my teams rn
I think that she’s specially good in ice since soup soup gets the ult efficiency and so does xaihi
any team that you can pilot well will keep you alive and clear content
if you really want to pull for gilberta my say is go for it
Yea there’s nothing in game that is going to gate u no matter who u use atm
if you are still feeling conflicted, then wait for 1.3 devlog
If you already have gilb and are planning to pull pots, gilb p1 is mostly qol p2 is what youd go for not sure what your budget is
nah there one, time gate quest kek
I have none tho.

when It got release tho?
What units do you have
Here
@undone coral ayt yv rdy to go now i think?
U would be happy getting any of the limiteds and could pick the second
time to rearrange factories, again 
Wait I just saw ur origiometry, if u r newer you could get the pulls to hit pity but it’d also depend on how much grinding you are willing to do
Missing cs m3
Get cs m3, so she can atleast feel better in the dumpster you throw her in


kinda exp tho ngl
-1s cd 
? What kinda comps they run
Everything is expensive when it comes to mastery 🥀
😭
that aside, this look pretty
I dont know shit about yv wtf does her cs even do
free soli iirc?
Im juat joking, i dont play yv

kekw
Int dat her bs ?
i think her cs does the same
Yv does pretty good dmg just that her dmg windows are inconvenient and her dmg method is inconvenient
Fuck i need to sleep
You can't cancel ult or get interrupted and its a long sequence
Soup soup freeze fixes all
the 6/6/3 that i still not done yet is now only ... gm and sundered prince '-')
agreed
Just start ult before enemy atk and once u flip back freeze the world and Gilberta Ult and Yvonne safe
hm... that aside, i kinda only realizzed now... but yvone's gear suck huh
I was trying to look up yvonne on aceship
, i sleep now gnight 
i feel like chest n glove would've been better if cryo dmg% compared to basic atk%
tupid
Tuoid
Btk dmg is good her ult is enhanced btk
All her dmg is basically basic atks
And her biggest dmg share is ult
Diout
which scale based off the ult mult, not her basic atk or sth
Yea she’s a glorified basic atk minigun
so her basic atk% is just for her usual bonking and passives
me gonganga
which is horrid cos basic atk% is like 1:1.1 coversion from ele dmg% in gears
it’s considered basic% damage either way
is it?
yeah
i hoenstly don't understand how yvone's ult mult work tbh
Ult mult overwrites basic atk dmg multipliers
ult itself has no multiplier
Rest of batk calc is same
this is what i heard too
its like how laev forgeborn os batk%
Yes, but gear is not batk dmg multiplier
eh... elaborate?
(Batk mult) * (1 + batk% + cryo%) * whatever the fuck you have
batk and cryo is in the same bracket
ah it's a dif bracket
Oh ye mb
they fall under dmg bonus%
Yeye ik im sleepy rn sorry
i take back what i said then... altho i feel like cryo% would still be better than basic atk% tbh
lmao
rly depends on how much youre using those skills
If youre getting noticable dmg from bs and cs, sure
fair enuf
Generally a wider applying multiplier has less numbers, on the same type of piece cryo dmg is less total percent than all skill dmg which is less percent than battle skill dmg percent etc
Sin was working on a nef rot that killed phase1 with tt nados and yv bs
So btk dmg isn't necessarily bad
batk gear is ~1.2x cryo dmg
@acoustic edge
around that, yeah
I’ve one tapped bosses with her, def needs tang tang tho
It is?
ye, u can calc it urself
35.9 vs 29.9
i mean, all skill% is like 1.3 or 1.4, which is for sum reason better than ba%, which is weird
yucky
Cause btk is counted separate from skills ig
exactly 1.2
b atk is just b atk, so like
With how high yvonnes dmg share is in ult its not that bad i think
i mean tbh. this is exactly why chiv is stupid good on yv
batk has way a lot more instances of damage to be fair
high uptime atk% helps yv alot to dish out more dmg
yeah if u r main op. it's at least 30% of ur dmg and can go up to 60% depending on ops if u play in a team setting i think
if u play solo op, it prolly goes as high as like 80%, lol
for most unit w dmg skills
part of the problem w high basic atk is just... u dont't typically have very high buffs uptime so technically, it could yield less dmg compared to other dmg bonus sources that specifically buff ur highest dmg output during peak buff time
at least that's what i feel lmao
When will Laevatain return after this banner? Not familiar with the schedule of this genre of game
noone know
If we treat other 3darpg gacha as the baseline then usually a cadence of ~3-10+ patches, with it increasing from the lower end to the higher end as the game gets older and there are more units to rerun. Worst rerun gaps can be a year or two once the game is pretty old, but a couple months is somewhat more realistic.
This first rerun was 2 patches after their releases but is a special banner type not a dedicated rerun.
If the devs decide to rerun exclusively through this special banner type then reruns may be more frequent than singular banners.
A lot of words to basically say we dont know and our educated guesses are w/e
its somewhere between a second and a billion or two
Hmmmm, I have around 100+k Orundum saved up plus tickets
If they show arcane off before then and she works well with my main team (Breach/Crush) I might hold off
cool
what team for zhuang fangyi?
zf , perlic , arc , gibby/alesh/antal/akekuri
the one that works
I mean u not wrong
I finally found the most braindead team that works for me: ZF
Just elec stax then pop ZF skill once infliction is on
a lot of fangyi team's base ground is just Fangyi Perlica Flex Flex,
and popular picks for flex options being:
- arclight/akekuri/alesh: sp recovery with thermite enabler and their personal buffs
- gilberta: good susceptibility debuff
- antal: general comfort de/buffer + 1 elec stack on cs
- ardelia: same sp usage as antal with her own debuffs and whatnot
some rather not so popular options
- avywenna: works as subdps, also can provide Elec Susc and Infliction
- tangtang: universal arts debuffer but pretty invasive since she has 1 cryo stack on bs/ult
- Rossi: usual stuff where shes splashable for wheelchair comps
Soo I can just do zf Gilberta perlica, and antal
what's tangtang gear set? did it get updated with new sets
does anyone have a build for pog as a rossi sub dps?
works
can stay with old bonekrusha all as fine
pog's subdps capability might not just be as good, most of the time he is set as a de/buffer
i didnt even have the bonekrusha t2 set yet since i was slacking on story, is the qingbo set bis? i just caught up in story
neither of them are bis, situationally good on their own
set comes at your own preference
do you mind or do you not mind her cs cooldown
oh ok, i was running her in yvonne team
i guess i'll go qingbo since having ult gain is nice and cs cdr
since i dont think bonekrusha set gets ult gain on chest
Rena do u have that msg on a clipboard on zfy team comp
Waowaow
hi i have question about is it better to leave freedom to proselytize or change it chivarlic virtues?
Is that xaihi? Chiv is better but only buy weapons from shops if u know the trade off
for late - endgame u'll be harder to kill and more tanky, so if u didnt has any skill issue to need heals from healers then buff/debuff is always better than anything ehh
ty<3
i suppose its preference but when you build xaihi for buffs her healing output gets very low so might as well go with chiv which further increases her buffing capabilities rather than healing
ty<3
Holy maxed freedom
Can any good teams be made on here?
I’m tryna get fangyi but im a beginner..just about to hit lvl 20*
U can use laev team
o?
Laev wulf ake and arde
ooo
thank you!!
im gonna start building them then :D
oh
can i do a team with fangyi or does she need more characters?
for when i get her
Is lavacake as powerful as zhuang fangyi
Honestly u can do the quest without building them so like just save resources till u reach wuling
oo okii!!
Zhuang perli arclight flex
Get Gilberta for flex since your pulling in the rerun banner anyway
Idk bc i haven't built fangyi yet
My fangyi does like 700k per skill on ult
that or I added an extra zero
Idk my laev did how much damage, haven't fully arctificed her gear yet
Gil sig or no? I have 17k arsenals
So I can afford it
Rn all I have is p0 Gil and stanza p5
i wouldnt generally recommend
Fair nough
theres good use cases but whilst a lot of other sigs are clear upgrades from every other available option, gilb sig at p0 is more of a sidegrade to stanza
it has bis use cases but isnt always
thinking abt it sidegrade is a bit weird to say cause they each have pretty clear use cases
but you get the point
can ember replace chen in phys team.making it pog,endmin,lifeng,ember?
guys, i don't really understand how essences work (what is the difference between valley IV and wuling essences? is there like different drop rates or do they do different things? which ops would prefer V4 versus wuling essences on their weapons?), and i don't want to waste sanity or resources unnecessarily by farming for things i won't end up using. if i'm building these two teams (might build laev later but since i just got her and i've already invested in these guys, i'm sticking with this), is there like- a specific region or alluvium i should farm from?
Here's sample burst rotations for the two poverty Yvonne team we talked about. I've minmaxed the rotations to the best of my ability. My thoughts...
**Vonne / Xai / Perly / Alesh: **
- Higher damage ceiling
- Absolute HELL on the pilot if you want to minmax it perfectly. The hardest part is fitting your burst into Perlica’s 9s electrify: your cryo stacks mostly come from Xaihi's cs, which has an overlapping trigger with Perlica's cs; so there's no way to hold Perlica's cs til when you need it.
- Slower setup.
- Very tight on stagger—though this matters more against bosses like Rhodagn where staggering matters.
Vonne / Xai / Alesh / Estella:
- Lower damage ceiling.
- Pretty easy to pilot and reach minmax damage. Just remember a general button-press order and the rest should come together by itself.
- Easier on stacks and setup, if you just want to “random bullshit go”; less need to track a strict rotation.
- Stagger in abundance, especially if you m1 Estella’s ult.
Obviously, if you’re NOT minmaxing, either is fine to play. It’ll still be the same tradeoffs: Perly's team has a higher ceiling; Estella's team is more comfortable.
As for UG, both teams should get ults back with Yvonne cs x2 + Yvonne bs x2 (2 stacks each).
I handicapped my team so they should match your investment level:
- Yvonne p5p0 Artzy, essence removed (≈ Yvonne p0p0 max essence)
- Chivalric Virtues "p1" (i.e., Chiv p4 with essence removed)
- Thermite Cutter p1, max essence
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can, not recommended
each alluvium has its own specific pool of drops, you can check sites like endfieldtools to see which alluvium has your desires essence
theyre all the same drop rate
holy freedom
but why p5 samples?
? wdym p5 samples
p5 yvonne

cus thats what they got
aint no way bro is making another account with a p0 yvonne now do they
I’m not making a new account just to make rotations 
don’t assume, I’m an LR main
so happy to see me? 
man, I go touch grass for one day and missed all the fun
i now have p3 stanza and 3 p0 stanzas smile
This a good team comp? using aby as sub dps because i already have her fully built
👍
What are best gear 5 star gear for her and the teammates
who should I use among laevatain teammates? wulfgard, antal, ardelia, akekuri, gilberta (not sure if this is relevant but wulfgard, antal, and akekuri are p5)
usual convenient set for non p4* is:
other options available in pinned doc
whichever one youre comfortable running with they all work just fine
She's p1 though
a popular starting comp is wulf akekuri ardelia
only changes in p4 so ur good
is lynx slab only good if p4?
what's chen bis team?
its good in any pot but i dont recommend it in 0ult starts
it has no uge so it will be a waste of sp to get ult
What's a good team that involves estella as either a sub-dps or a support?
okay thank you
chen bis probably phys chen? chen pog lifeng endmin/panda
estella team is prob crush so alesh estella endmin chen?
Which one of Gil?
still better yes might be better than her sig too bc shes only nature
and rn all maindps no one is nature that makes stanza even easier to activate the buff
Nvm stanza’s P2 I guess lmao
😂 i just bought cv like 1 hour ago cus my stanza is already p5, arsenal this day leaning to supporters haiyaa
CV bis for who?
Have theory crafters came to a general consensus on what's the best team for Rossi ?? Like physical team or hypercarry ?
ardel cannot proc chiv
a ton of options but most of the time arts >
oh heals from her doesnt count? wow never notice that mb gng
k... i really like looking at ember from behind, how do i build/play her
Should I pull for that last 40 pulls for 1 more 6s and 2k arsenal? I have Laeva and Pog at P1 and Ardelia at P4, Gil at P0
probably better to divert it to limited banner
Even after these 40 pulls I should have enought pulls for 120 pity on the limited ops next patch, but I do hope that I only need to pull 1 new ops
i meant if u r physical and laev main, sure
tho just wait for other support for laev tbh
currently laev still using *4 and *5 respectfully, it still open slot for upgrade version
and we still have not got *6 striker for physical
and the next limited after 1.3?when you’re 20 pulls short?
potentials aren’t insane
Hello. Where was the excel?
pin
iana is not updated anymore
iana at least until 1.1
that is iana ones
some potential are intentionally make you want to pull, like Fangyi sp cut for example, but we just have to wait for *6 elec sp regen unit in future to solve this problem 
its quite scummy, but i do understand
pot is insane, especially, only p4 and p5 lol
i have 4 meta teams all with no repeating units, will this be good enough for future endgame?
as f2p
yes
f2p, you have laev, yvonne, tangtang, zf, gilb
damn, you lucky bastard
hehe i got gilberta, yvonne and tangtang early like in 10-20 pity range
eh this my main team it still counts as meta right?
cause dps gets powercrept faster than supports usually
gilb buffs every single arts reaction, so her sig would have more value than other sigs
TT weapon can be considered as debuff weapon
if you think dps weapon is inferior, then, TT weapon considered as debuff weapon which has value in it
future endgame
powercrept
So yeah, it will never be good enough.
Icl gil's p2 is quite insane
eh i might get it next time, i only got gilb weapon because we currently dont have a nature dps so the next meta dps will probably be nature, stanza doesnt work so im just preparing for the worst
next meta dps will probably be nature
Bold speculation.
the one who said dps get powercrept faster think about meta dps is nature ... what the hell with this double standard
Fangyi Team?
Just uh, be lucky.
for now im waiting for *6 support version for each of my mdps
what if, i want to become lucky but laev love me too much
Also why does that sticker look like it came out of a horror movie?
ah, now that i think about it, in every pull that, there is laev in it, if i lose 50/50, i will always got laev
we have one dps for each type rn except nature
heat -> leav
cryo -> yvonne
lightning -> zf
physical -> rossi
yes, now i think about it, i always got laev if i lose my 50/50, when there is laev in it
sorry, cryo is LR not yvonne
yeah so with sig, gilb can work with every single future arts dps including nature dpses
rossi is not trully physical
Only...one for physical?
areyousureaboutthat.gif
arent they both cryo dps smh
eh, it should be none, because all dps is sub dps in phy '3')
yeah that
Fangyi Perlica Gilberta?
we have none of solo carry type of dps for physical
Or Ardelia for the Corrosion?
eh, we have, the solo carry physical is ... pog '3')
Look at sheet on your own thanks.
also physical sustainless is just kinda weird to play unless i run ember
Does Fangyi need corrossion
Look at sheet on your own thanks.
it just skill issue
Gilberta bis for ult start
Antal for non ult start
Ardelia if you dying
ardelia there for heals
Fangyi so powerful, you can throw ember there and it'll work
The fourth member is ?
What! Is that true lol
Thats the 4th member options
arclight
Aight i actually thought Bnuy will pair well
Sub burst dps
I see but Clown's build do not have the team Im going for. So I needed iana's.
What team you going for?
Very likely Iana's is outdated for what you'd building
but it's still good enough to clear
Tangtang-Rossi-Gilberta-Perlica
Clown sheet has rossi build
Is this the all-my-six-stars team?

Well... I can't see it on the sheet
btw never rest cause pog is good buffer + sp maker for all physical teams
so with gilb sig + pog sig i made sure my account can stay in value with the changing meta since i have coverage for all arts damage + physical
Perlica: if i wear less coat, they'll consider me 6 star
Pog sig is not that valuable
Nah. I have all except Yvonne now thanks to new pull thing.
compared to the sigs of other physical units, it has the highest value
How do you even get so many pulls....
I feel like people whalr and blame luck
I was lucky to get both Laeva and Gilberta from pick
Rossi 50/50 gave me Tangtang
Except endmin and yifeng, no one uses sig 😭 🙏
funny, so does almost like any other team
yvonne gonna cry if you remove anyone
works just fien if you remove gilberta in a tangtang xaihi gilberta comp
i haven't done data crevice yet





