#team-build

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tardy moon
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elite ball knowledge (don't do this)

royal comet
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Isnt Rossi mostly an arts burst unit

sage dome
tardy moon
royal comet
tardy moon
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1

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it glows more at 5

sage dome
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wm

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should i take p1 chiv?

tardy moon
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yes

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PerliFumo the answer to spending is always yes

sage dome
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you're helping, time to do it now!!!

royal comet
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Im very biased towards avywenna and electric team

sage dome
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thanks @helper

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realistically what even is the increase, 2%?

tardy moon
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pretty much lol

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TeriRip i haven't done data crevice yet

wet moat
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hmm i can farm this shit now

ocean jay
sage dome
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there goes my 2.4k PerliWheeze

tardy moon
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everything for xaihi

sage dome
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TRUKE!!!!!!!!!

tardy moon
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did you see my dps xaihi ChenLeak

sage dome
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i lurked a bit yes 😭

tardy moon
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😭

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p2 gil is so goated

sage dome
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i've been tempted to go get p2p2 but the banner is genuinely so shit for me

tardy moon
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no obj razerhorn in shop 💔

tardy moon
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he's like a good luck charm as long as you have cryo units built

sage dome
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nah i won't, i'll wait her dedicated rerun.....

sage dome
wispy moss
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Yeah, almost physical team, I put zhuangyi as the 4th because she’s kawaii

sage dome
tardy moon
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87m amazing

tardy moon
sage dome
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yes give me

sage dome
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i'm watching steven universe i forgot

tardy moon
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🫳
EmberAlert

sage dome
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hey!!!!!!!!!!! be more careful!!!!!!!!!!

nimble jacinth
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Wanna ask, any changes i should make in my team and gears?

tardy moon
sage dome
tardy moon
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perlica's gloves too if you're minmaxing

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but it doesn't really matter

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also m1 gilb's ult

nimble jacinth
nimble jacinth
tardy moon
nimble jacinth
tardy moon
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if you can get her ult up for stanza during rossi's burst it's fine

thick pawn
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So, I got Laevatainn and Rossi as random pulls when pulling for other characters. Are either of them worth building, considering I already have 2 teams(OG Phys team and Fangyi team) and only have 6k arsenal currency? Also don't have Gilberta.

cosmic plume
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But laevi the standard laevatain teams is wulfguard, akekuri and ardelia

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So you'd have to build them up to at least elite 3 (60/80)

thick pawn
thick pawn
cosmic plume
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Both are very good. Laevatain in single and aoe as a sustained dmg dealer, while rossi (at least in full arts team) is a single target burst dps.

thick pawn
cosmic plume
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Rossi should be easier to build

long shell
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tbh i'd tell u to save in this case

cloud storm
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Does Gilberta weapon need the maxed UGE stat or is a specific level fine?

cosmic plume
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Given her flexibility of partners. And if you have glorious memory. But if you don't feel like building either, just hold off for now

thick pawn
cosmic plume
weary hinge
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finally got m6 on tt

long shell
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u have to max the uge on her sig if u want more arts building on the gears

weary hinge
thick pawn
cosmic plume
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I don't know

long shell
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not rly

cosmic plume
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I don't know the dmg ceiling for either team

long shell
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I think monophys still better a bit than rossi hyper

cloud storm
cosmic plume
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There's probably some calculations of it somewhere. Don't want to give u an answer based off of vibes

thick pawn
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Ok so rossi is a pass, Laev is completely redundant also since I have fangyi already, right?

long shell
cosmic plume
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Idk if I'd use the word redundant but sure

true flax
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Chivalric virtue is in the shop, do yall think it’s worth picking it up? Side note, I do not own it yet

ocean jay
long shell
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i dont think lae has a good performance atm cuz shez kinda weak to the current umbral's mech but u could save for her supports if u still wanna give her a shot

cosmic plume
long shell
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6

cosmic plume
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Nah

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How so

thick pawn
cosmic plume
long shell
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i've tried w p5p5 and still a bit hard tbh

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not abt skill issues

cosmic plume
true flax
long shell
cosmic plume
thick pawn
cosmic plume
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physical, cryo, Laevatain or eletric. I don't think any of the main teams for these elements should struggle

cosmic plume
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I reset that stage 7 times b4 I cleared with fangyi. Needed to better time my battle skills so i wouldn't be in the line of fire and just get frozen

long shell
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i've tried w avy's mono elec team and same performance

ocean jay
cosmic plume
long shell
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fr

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luckily that i have a bit spares of weapons in avy's team so it wasnt too hard for me

potent trellis
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What weapon would you guys recommend for Pog if you dont have Thermite or sig?

wet moat
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fortmaker kek

potent trellis
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Thank you

waxen ravine
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Discount bargain bin thermite

winged mesa
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why would pog be using obj PerliDerp

wet moat
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can u read

junior pier
waxen ravine
thick pawn
wet moat
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even repute pog sound better

waxen ravine
wet moat
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n u call this better?

junior pier
winged mesa
thick pawn
long shell
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i dont think obj would work on pog tbh

copper sky
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is this gearset good for pog? should i artifice it?

junior pier
thick pawn
copper sky
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i was using clown team guide but theres no a physical one :(

wet moat
copper sky
wet moat
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go sm/hw

copper sky
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okay ty

humble drift
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go with this

copper sky
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also should i gamble for lifeng sig? cuz i dont have valiant and i only got chimeric justice 😔

humble drift
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nah just use chimeric till u get valiant from weekly shop tbh

copper sky
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kay

thick pawn
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Yeah, most of the team's dmg is from endmin/chen, no need to invest that much into lifeng

humble drift
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@wet moat runs chimeric over valiant/mountain bearer anyway lol

wet moat
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oi im still fishing for mb

copper sky
humble drift
potent trellis
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If only sundering didnt look so dookie

copper sky
thick pawn
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Which BP weapon for chen, btw? Red one or the other one?

wet moat
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glorious

copper sky
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glprious

wet moat
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why da heck u want umbrl on chen

copper sky
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aura

thick pawn
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Ah, then I only have that one p1 lol

wet moat
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u got protocol someshit

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can pot gm using it

thick pawn
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I haven't bought any BPs, so I don't think I have it

copper sky
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umbral torch p5 or scythe p0?

wet moat
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scyte?

copper sky
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laeve sig

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forgor the name

wet moat
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oh its still forgeborn iirc

ocean jay
thick pawn
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Is the bp weapon better than rapid ascent p1?

copper sky
wet moat
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gm basically more generalist than rascent

copper sky
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maybe someday umbral torch will leave my stash 🥀

wet moat
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u cant stagger == lol rascent ICANT

waxen ravine
thick pawn
ocean jay
glass nymph
wet moat
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r4 == p0

glass nymph
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why

ocean jay
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uhhh

glass nymph
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i dont get it

thick pawn
winged mesa
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3rd line 4/9 and 9/9

ocean jay
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there

glass nymph
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oh that

oblique narwhal
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Which team is stronger to main?

Fangyi- perlica- arclight- gilberta

Or

Pog-lifeng - endmin - chen

cold cargo
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Both are good, whichever you like more

wet moat
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ask ur D

cold cargo
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If you like men, go with phys
If you like woman, go electric

wet moat
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oi, theres chen in monopysical

cold cargo
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You never know

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Kaine

oblique narwhal
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Oh demn read tbat aoe is hell for physical

wet moat
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pysical literally got 2 ulti with grouping effect

winged mesa
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anything is hell if you cant pilot them anyways

thick pawn
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Fangyi team is easier to build and play, but both teams are very strong, so build Fangyi first and then phys imo

tardy moon
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there goes your resources for the next two patches

thick pawn
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Not really, we got a lot of sanity lately

cold cargo
# cold cargo Kaine

Does the 😂 reacting guy know ball or just doing it for shits and giggles

wet moat
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yesnt

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glory to node

vocal agate
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I assume obj razorhorn is estella's best weapon? or is valiant

cold cargo
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Depends

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Can also use jet afaik

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But idk what polearm is better for which content

vocal agate
slender spear
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both valiant and jet should be a little better just cause of the higher base atk

vocal agate
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hm alr

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wrong stat does kinda hurt though I forgot about that

slender spear
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i mean if you have those 6 star spears just use them. Obj gotta be maxed etched to be close
Jet doesn't really need to etch 3rd line and valiant doesn't need 1st line so kinda saves you etch farming

vocal agate
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does the base atk still outperform the will>atk conversion

slender spear
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it should

vocal agate
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surprising

slender spear
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I'm fairly sure Jet is at least slightly better than obj and valiant is situationally on par with Jet

vocal agate
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dont see how jet is ever good tbh

slender spear
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with Jet being a better stat stick but valiant just making up the difference with the passive procs

vocal agate
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she doesnt deal arts dmg

slender spear
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atk% is a broken stat

vocal agate
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oh right valiant has it on 3rd

slender spear
vocal agate
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so lower ceiling

slender spear
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they both have completely dead etching lines lmao

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estella damage dealing weapon options kinda cursed

vocal agate
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I mean I have lifeng and avywenna that use them so I'm maxing them regardless

slender spear
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obj too weak, 6 star spears just aren't made for her. everything sucks

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well they're all pretty close so if she's not your main dps then you can probably use any of the 3

vocal agate
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obj does have the 33.6% atk + actual etching lines + main stat

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but ik valiant is just a super good weapon

winged mesa
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obj? do you even want estella to consume solidification?

slender spear
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90 extra base attack is no joke. You end up with like 800 base attack so it's not a small portion

vocal agate
winged mesa
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jet by itself has
main attribute+
39% atk
89 more base atk than obj

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the no atk% of valiant outside of 3rd line feels bad for her ngl

vocal agate
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another 192% multiplier seems spicy tho

winged mesa
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no

vocal agate
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dunno if that does stagger but even without it seems nice

winged mesa
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192% of estella's atk

vocal agate
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ik

winged mesa
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just feels bad when the atk gets quite low since its agility

vocal agate
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have neither of the weapons maxed so kinda hard for me to calc sadly

winged mesa
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if you already have a rotation in mind you can do sheet calc

vocal agate
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dunno how to as ive never done it, was just gonna compare effective multipliers

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to see how high the difference is if any

winged mesa
slender spear
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You'd kind of have to just sheet it to compare jet vs valiant because you have to account for the valiant procs

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If you're just looking at raw stats jet is higher

vocal agate
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yea fair enough

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i mean tbf both are worth building so ill just put on her what i build first when the normal holder isnt active

slender spear
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Also another thing to consider is just that Valiant pots are better so if it's a max pot valiant, valiant would win more of the time

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although i doubt that's what you're considering

vocal agate
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ya good point

slender spear
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A good chunk of valiant value is the phys damage dealt % on second line too and that would diminish in value if your setup has a lot of damage% buffs already

vocal agate
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oh nah not really afaik

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only other amper is gilberta who is there for grouping & tangtang damage

slender spear
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So like you'd ideally want to account for buffs, whether your rotation is more frequent shatters (more valiant procs) or big shatters(more value from stat stick), and what pots you have

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but really if she's not your main dps it probably doesn't matter so just pick whatever

vocal agate
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since thats what im aiming for generally partially becasue of alesh being there = more sp

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havent really tried this on bosses yet though so i have no clue what to do there for rotation yet, just really fun doing this on umbral monument aoe stages

slender spear
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yeah frequent shatters is probably more realistic than saving up for some goofy 4 stack shatter unless you're trying to flex a screenshot

vocal agate
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ahh like that okay yea makes sense

oblique narwhal
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Using all my pulls for gilberta in this banner

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Now i need to use her in my fangyi team

thick pawn
void vigil
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Getting gilberta is never stupid anyway

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Used in way too many comps atm

winged mesa
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it can if youre playing monophysical PerliFumo

thick pawn
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Yeah, my two teams are mono phys and fangyi team, neither of which use gilberta well, so I'll just hold on for a better fit

void vigil
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Wut, fangyi uses gilberta well

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The standard is arclight + gilberta

thick pawn
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She uses gilberta. Well is another story xD She does not fit the team very well, I'm sure another support will come soon that'll be better than her for FY

void vigil
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Yes it does fit well since gilberta whole purpose is to help in burst dps

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You are way more likely to replace arclight than gilberta

cloud storm
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What changes in the Xira set if I got Gilberta signature? She's using 3p Xira with the INT + UGE chest

winged mesa
slender ore
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wheres the cryo super fan

winged mesa
void vigil
winged mesa
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i mean theres a lot more factor to consider but sure ig

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if we are doign just purely one cycle we will replace arc anyways

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the more buffs we can get easily in 1 cycle the better value the unit gets

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but this wont apply to every single scenario nor every single person

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until we get said unit theres no saying who will get replaced

cloud storm
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Probably on the Tang one, right

winged mesa
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doing corrosion with her would make ai has value anyways

oblique narwhal
slender ore
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team build chat

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how do i usee yvon, xai, perl and ales

void vigil
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You need to do free shit for fangyi or generate more sp for her

thick pawn
void vigil
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Or theres a better perlica replacement

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There just isnt much options since fang yi wants all the sp and gilberta is an insane free dmg support

slender ore
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does anyone main yvonne here

void vigil
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@undone coral

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Free support = fits fang yi well already

undone coral
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what’s up

void vigil
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Yvonne alesh

void vigil
undone coral
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Oh hi
I’m outside rn I can’t record ICANT

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I’ll make a burst rot sample when I get back

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charge rotation is just, 2 Xai cs into bs, repeat twice

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Funnily enough alesh gets ult back even without using his cs bc of his talent PerliWheeze

slender ore
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hello cryo

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superfan

undone coral
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btw my name is sin or sln not cryo PerliFumo

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Hi again

slender ore
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do i use stanza for perl if i use her in yvon team

sage dome
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no ur name is cryo

undone coral
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yeah

sage dome
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hi cryoman i am No.2

undone coral
undone coral
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Nice to meet u miss Glazer

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I’m Superfan, Cryo Superfan

slender ore
undone coral
# slender ore do i only use xai and yvon bs

charge rot, yeah, just use xai and Yvonne bs
That’s pretty much all you can use to get stacks in that team anw
Alesh ult during Yvonne’s ult to help with SP and burst damage

slender ore
undone coral
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Pulser 3pc (ai) with xira gloves t1 (ult gain)

wet moat
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max ai perlica

undone coral
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since you care about charge rotations, I’m assuming u wanna sync ults up, hence uge gloves

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If purely burstmaxxing then yes ai gloves

slender ore
undone coral
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and you don’t need qingbo

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Perlica only needs to cs once every cycle with yvonne

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not like fangyi where her cs is high demand

slender ore
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ok

undone coral
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I mean if you have qingbo built it’s just 30ai loss

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So it’s fine to use qb

wet moat
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perlica cs on tianshi doesn't get to use its effect as yes insta consume by tianshi

undone coral
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But pulser would be the “optimal” pick I guess

undone coral
wet moat
wet moat
undone coral
ember shale
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I can’t wait till multi team content

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I need to fulfill my need to bring 2 busted teams to burst down bosses

undone coral
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Maybe in a few h once I get home

slender ore
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ok

undone coral
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Btw what’s your operator and weapon potentials?

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p0 yvonne with p0 artzy? p5 5*?

slender ore
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p0 yvon p0 artzy

thick pawn
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It doesn't really matter, but technically an unupgraded weapon is P1. P0 would be not having the weapon xD

winged mesa
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p0 is the start

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p5 is the max you need 6 copies eitherway

wet moat
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p1 on ak == p0 on endfield

thick pawn
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Oh, you're right actually, nevermind then xD
I just realised the character potential thing actually says 0/5

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Tought it was like in OG

oblique narwhal
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what weapon to use for gilberta if i slot her into my fangyi team as 4th slot?

should i t ry and pull for her sig?

weary hinge
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stanza should be perfectly sufficient

long shell
oblique narwhal
lethal tapir
long shell
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stanza still fine

oblique narwhal
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my stanza is P0, is that fine

long shell
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but if u want more arts for gilb and stil have enough uge get her sig

lethal tapir
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Well. it'll be easy to get p5 sooner than later since its only a 5 star. Don't worry about it

long shell
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get p5 and ur fine

oblique narwhal
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i think i can do 5 pulls but no enough to guarantee

nimble jacinth
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Wanna ask, whats the recommended rotation for this team?

lethal tapir
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Oh wait

oblique narwhal
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for gilberta

lethal tapir
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We're talking about Gil here ignore that

oblique narwhal
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yeah gil

lethal tapir
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I just saw Zhuang's weapon and went smooth brain I guess lol

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Yea if you don't have a guarantee then I wouldn't risk it. Gil's sig isnt good enough that its worth the risk of not getting it and wasting all those arsenal pulls

worn flax
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bruh 1 second late

oblique narwhal
tough light
plucky marsh
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Yes, Laeva P1 for freeeeee, I am now 3%stronger

long shell
uneven kiln
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Help, is this team lineup for rossi correct? or there's better lineup for her

long shell
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ur planing for hybrid or hyper?

uneven kiln
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Tbh I dont know which is the best, hybrid or hyper

long shell
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hyper for nuke and hybrid can run longer ig

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like for the contents that need to be long

uneven kiln
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Okiie, may I ask what's the optimal lineup for hyper?

uneven kiln
acoustic edge
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I think bis rossi team uses tt and gilb, off the top of my head flex is perli but i might be wrong

slender ore
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@undone coral @undone coral

acoustic edge
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@winged mesa

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Calling all regulars PerliFumo

long shell
uneven kiln
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Okay thank you guys ❤️

acoustic edge
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Endmin probably gives split dmg windows which can be nice but i believe elemental rossi carry is highest ceiling

long shell
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make senses

wet moat
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arts rossie should be highest, ange p2 + tt

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54% debuff meng

ancient tendon
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ardelia or gilberta for lae team?

sacred mica
acoustic edge
junior pier
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if you just want to burst then you usually bring tang2+gil

acoustic edge
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But takes some sp and loses in short burst windows

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So for a lot of umbral or regular encounters or speedkills gilb is often preferable

ancient tendon
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alrr thankss

acoustic edge
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Also if you need ard healing is nice qol

winged mesa
acoustic edge
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They were asking bis rossi team

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I told them rossi gilb tt perli

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But wasn't certain

winged mesa
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its the usual team yes

winged mesa
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no relevancy upon tangtang but she has good numbers

uneven kiln
winged mesa
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works

acoustic edge
winged mesa
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fsngyi

uneven kiln
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Sadly fangyi hasnt come home to me

acoustic edge
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Ive also seen some blokes run laev rossi but no clue how ts works

winged mesa
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laev rossi needs a lot of workaround

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if you cant pilot well it might become a problem thay will bite your ass back more than it will do good

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also requires wulf p5 fo have a sustainable stacking

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and personally wulf solo stacking is miserable because of his ebs

acoustic edge
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How does rossi shatter long timeline numbers compare to normal elemental rossi comp

uneven kiln
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So far this is my available rooster

acoustic edge
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I think hifumi was using it for speedkills or sum

winged mesa
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idk rossi shatter stuff prob better to ask hifumi

acoustic edge
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But speedkills and extended rots/general use if very diff

slender ore
winged mesa
wet moat
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rossie tang2 ange perlica PerliFumo

uneven kiln
wet moat
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its basically 2 op with dumb multiplier+ yes 5s burst ange

acoustic edge
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Tt arts susc and dmg taken

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🔥

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She is a support trust

uneven kiln
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What weapon ya guys use for perlica?

wet moat
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3 nado moment ICANT

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stanza perlica

winged mesa
uneven kiln
cold cargo
winged mesa
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either works

acoustic edge
winged mesa
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ye

acoustic edge
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Huh

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How does perli apply arts burst

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In that team

winged mesa
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by using 200sp

acoustic edge
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Fair enough

winged mesa
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tangtang cs can proc by arts burst

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if you want to do 3 nado you can instead do 2x perli bs after the first tt bs

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simple rotation goes like
tt bs > tt cs > fs > perli cs > gil cs > rossi cs > perli bs > perli bs > tt cs > rossi bs > ult mayhem

slender ore
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r u cryo main

winged mesa
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i have general knowledge not in depth knowledge of cryo

slender ore
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since the person whose main is gone

lilac drift
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Hello I just got Fangyi and I need to choose between her sig and the one from the pass

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Atm I am stumped

winged mesa
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sig will almost always outperform bp at even at pot5

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but ir diesnt mean theyre bad

lilac drift
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I wad thinking of getting tangTang's sig as I have 3 more 10 pulls to guarantee

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So I though of pulling Fangyi's sig later. But I wanna make her perform well

acoustic edge
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Anything not yvonne i can probs help PerliFumo

slender ore
pearl surge
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TT

slender ore
acoustic edge
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Rena is the yvonnizer

pearl surge
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TT sig will be gone

acoustic edge
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Ask them

slender ore
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whats the suitable gear build for xaihi

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in yvon team

acoustic edge
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I believe that's just int maxxing

junior hearth
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Who's the best unit in the Fest of Brilliance?

acoustic edge
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Cause yvonne comp doesn't require xaihi to build ult super fast

slender ore
acoustic edge
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Are you using gilberta

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Or rather who's your flex

slender ore
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im using f2p team

acoustic edge
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Can you list out all 4

wet moat
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at least i know, u shouldn't make yvonne if u don't have tt/ange

winged mesa
pearl surge
acoustic edge
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Xaihi only uses xira on yvonne if no one else can

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For example yvonne tt xaihi perlica

acoustic edge
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But comps like yvonne xaihi perlica gilberta or yvonne tt xaihi perlica xaihi doesn't go for 3x eternal

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@slender ore whats the 4 you use

slender ore
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yvon, xai, perli, ales

tardy moon
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ttless and gilbless ChenLeak

acoustic edge
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Then xaihi probably does use 3x eternal

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But yeah tt less gilbless is a bit unfort

wet moat
#

well, u can use yvonne chen lr on dijang ICANT

junior hearth
acoustic edge
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Redeemer armor with eternal gloves and 2x eternal kit

tardy moon
acoustic edge
#

All int main

junior hearth
winged mesa
#

lots of argument to continue but in short if you arent targetting for a potential or anything it might just not be worth

tardy moon
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especially if you’re f2p

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or a low spender

slender ore
acoustic edge
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Tho actually 3x eternal including chest and using 1x secondary att frontiers might give more int

slender ore
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the uge or treatment

acoustic edge
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But i can't be asked to calc allat rn

acoustic edge
#

Neither does much with that comp

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Uge will be a bit of qol

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Xaihi hardly heals with amp setup to start with

quartz torrent
#

hey folks i kind of want to build a damage dealing ember but i don't really know what armor to wear

quartz torrent
acoustic edge
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Ember is weird af cause her biggest mult is ult but ult is heat dmg

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When shes a phys unit

winged mesa
#

shes a heat unit

acoustic edge
#

You are right

winged mesa
#

only that she deals phys dmg in half of her kit 1kb

acoustic edge
#

Yeah

quartz torrent
#

oh wait she'd be pretty good with rossi then right?

slender ore
#

no

acoustic edge
#

Shes never good in any team dmg number wise

quartz torrent
#

aww

winged mesa
#

no not rly

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she wouldnt be good in any team lmao

acoustic edge
#

She gives you rly good survivability if you need it tho

winged mesa
#

she can work sure

slender ore
#

replace lifeng in phys team for some new fresh air

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before returning to lifeng again.

acoustic edge
#

Ember is for the handless and for those who can't be asked to use their hands

quartz torrent
#

i've already maxed my main teams like yvonne, rossi and fangyi so i just wanna explore phys teams

slender ore
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lifeng is the more superior choice

acoustic edge
#

Trad phys is endmin chen lifeng pogran

slender ore
#

ember is technically good for umbral monument

winged mesa
#

ember is unfortunately not bringing a lot to the general loop of phys teams

slender ore
#

before people starting to bruteforce it TangtangPout

winged mesa
slender ore
#

the stage with gas that continously drain hp

winged mesa
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ive done all umbral with laev team shrugs

winged mesa
slender ore
#

bruteforce is the meta

winged mesa
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'bruteforce' when the enemy is squishy and we are hitting more than what we rly need to

acoustic edge
#

Content is just rly lenient rn

quartz torrent
#

it looks so fun just bonking enemies and seeing big number go boom

acoustic edge
#

With enough skill you can do everything with literally whatever

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And even without much skill any half decent comp clears

quartz torrent
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catcher solo lesgo baby

slender ore
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parry the world

cloud storm
#

Ember hot
Next question

sullen sierra
#

Is it worth getting Ember or Last Rite from the selector, or do I just get P1 Pog or something? I have all the limited 6-stars so far except Laevaetin

slender ore
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p1 pog

cold cargo
#

Dont p1 pog

sullen sierra
#

I figure Ember / Last Rite would be more collecting at this point

quartz torrent
#

last rite is crazy bro

winged mesa
#

doesnt seem you have anything of worth, keep it until you need it

quartz torrent
#

i wish i built her instead of yvonne

sullen sierra
#

is Last Rite better than Yvonne tho

slender ore
#

no

cold cargo
#

Depending on content, yes

winged mesa
#

they all perform just as strong situationally

cloud storm
#

Scythes are cool as hell tho

quartz torrent
#

RIGHT

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yvonne ult kinda slow man i like how last rite just gets to the point

cold cargo
#

Bruh ppl are fucking typing whatever they want

#

Im back to farming IS

winged mesa
sullen sierra
#

lol idk if any of this is real advice besides "keep it until you need it"

#

ok I'll finish building who I have already lol

acoustic edge
#

Lr is a bit less clunky

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But neither exactly feels too smoothe anyhow

#

Yvonne ult is self inflicted cc basically and you need to line everything up to hit it all

winged mesa
wet moat
acoustic edge
#

Lrs buildup is slow and it feels like her fs gets dodged every other time

winged mesa
#

if you dont need it theres no need to immediately be using it

cold cargo
acoustic edge
#

Tt and xaihi

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Are deadlifting 20 million kgs

cold cargo
#

Xaihi is alr half of cryo dmg ICANT

winged mesa
#

heat xaihi whenn

acoustic edge
#

Never hopefully

wet moat
#

never\

acoustic edge
#

That would be the start of genshin level powercreep

cold cargo
#

Heat xaihi release = rossi doing 6m dmg per ult

acoustic edge
#

Heat xaihi with 6 star upscaling from cryo xaihi

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Limited unit upscale too and potential upscale as well

winged mesa
#

heat xaihi for 15s would go insane for laev batk

acoustic edge
#

Would have a sig that dwarfs deto unit

opaque valley
#

heat support when

cold cargo
cloud storm
#

I need another Xaihi that focuses on ult damage so I can make Alesh do a bazillion damage per ult

opaque valley
#

i pray that vampire twink is heat vanguard

cloud storm
#

OLHA, PEGUEI

cold cargo
winged mesa
winged mesa
#

heat xaihi that can corroramp PerliFumo

jagged raven
#

I pray that mifu is nature dps

cold cargo
jagged raven
opaque valley
#

which elements/roles have we not gotten

cold cargo
#

Cryo support

wet moat
opaque valley
slender spear
cold cargo
opaque valley
#

mifu feels like a phys striker

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or heat/elec again

cold cargo
#

Or cryo

slender spear
#

cryo gun user

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need more of those

cold cargo
#

Yea i agree

winged mesa
cold cargo
#

Bruh my kroos alter spent too much time in #help and now gas brain dmg

opaque valley
#

arent casters like arts limited

#

and guards are the phys version

winged mesa
#

you asked what we havent got

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so i answered 1kb

opaque valley
wet moat
cold cargo
#

Hnaf

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Watafak happen at 0 light

cold cargo
wet moat
#

u fuck

winged mesa
#

i forgot shes guard sometime

cold cargo
wet moat
night terrace
#

Should I gacha in one of these banner? Or just save up for now? Currently using this team

acoustic edge
#

If you plan on keeping phys i wouldn't

cold cargo
#

Wait ceylon gives status resistance
Is3 is ceylon upscale

wet moat
#

well, dps harder

winged mesa
night terrace
#

Maybe Yonne and laevatain

cold cargo
ember shale
night terrace
ember shale
#

I’d say that u are still doing a 50/50 because u could get more pogs or Ardelia so there’s tht risk

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But if u plan on ever making a team that isn’t physical, Gilberta will probably be there smiling at you

night terrace
#

For now physical team keep me alive and clear content

ember shale
#

For context, here are my teams rn

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I think that she’s specially good in ice since soup soup gets the ult efficiency and so does xaihi

winged mesa
#

if you really want to pull for gilberta my say is go for it

ember shale
#

Yea there’s nothing in game that is going to gate u no matter who u use atm

winged mesa
#

if you are still feeling conflicted, then wait for 1.3 devlog

acoustic edge
wet moat
ember shale
night terrace
winged mesa
#

no idea

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approx should be 1 week before the patch end

acoustic edge
sacred mica
#

@undone coral ayt yv rdy to go now i think?

ember shale
#

U would be happy getting any of the limiteds and could pick the second

acoustic edge
#

Id just save if you don't have much in mind

#

New units tend to be stronger anyways

wet moat
#

time to rearrange factories, again meng

ember shale
#

Wait I just saw ur origiometry, if u r newer you could get the pulls to hit pity but it’d also depend on how much grinding you are willing to do

cold cargo
#

Get cs m3, so she can atleast feel better in the dumpster you throw her in

sacred mica
cold cargo
sacred mica
#

kinda exp tho ngl

cold cargo
#

-1s cd PerliSmile

acoustic edge
ember shale
#

Everything is expensive when it comes to mastery 🥀

acoustic edge
#

😭

sacred mica
#

that aside, this look pretty

cold cargo
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I dont know shit about yv wtf does her cs even do

sacred mica
cold cargo
acoustic edge
sacred mica
#

kekw

cold cargo
sacred mica
#

i think her cs does the same

acoustic edge
#

Yv does pretty good dmg just that her dmg windows are inconvenient and her dmg method is inconvenient

cold cargo
#

Fuck i need to sleep

sacred mica
acoustic edge
#

You can't cancel ult or get interrupted and its a long sequence

ember shale
#

Soup soup freeze fixes all

pearl surge
#

the 6/6/3 that i still not done yet is now only ... gm and sundered prince '-')

ember shale
#

Just start ult before enemy atk and once u flip back freeze the world and Gilberta Ult and Yvonne safe

sacred mica
#

hm... that aside, i kinda only realizzed now... but yvone's gear suck huh

cold cargo
#

I was trying to look up yvonne on aceship ICANT, i sleep now gnight GilbSleep

sacred mica
#

i feel like chest n glove would've been better if cryo dmg% compared to basic atk%

cold cargo
acoustic edge
ember shale
#

All her dmg is basically basic atks

acoustic edge
#

And her biggest dmg share is ult

winged mesa
sacred mica
ember shale
#

Yea she’s a glorified basic atk minigun

sacred mica
#

so her basic atk% is just for her usual bonking and passives

cold cargo
sacred mica
#

which is horrid cos basic atk% is like 1:1.1 coversion from ele dmg% in gears

tardy moon
sacred mica
#

unlike sth like bs which is abt 1:1.8

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or cs 1:1.6 ish

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or ult 1:2

sacred mica
tardy moon
#

yeah

ember shale
#

As I said, glorified basic atk minigun

#

It’s all basic, everything is basic

sacred mica
#

i hoenstly don't understand how yvone's ult mult work tbh

winged mesa
#

ult change state

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state now does enhanced batk

cold cargo
#

Ult mult overwrites basic atk dmg multipliers

winged mesa
#

ult itself has no multiplier

cold cargo
#

Rest of batk calc is same

sacred mica
winged mesa
#

its like how laev forgeborn os batk%

cold cargo
#

Yes, but gear is not batk dmg multiplier

sacred mica
#

eh... elaborate?

cold cargo
#

(Batk mult) * (1 + batk% + cryo%) * whatever the fuck you have

winged mesa
#

batk and cryo is in the same bracket

sacred mica
#

ah it's a dif bracket

cold cargo
#

Oh ye mb

winged mesa
#

they fall under dmg bonus%

sacred mica
#

ok i was tripping then

#

noted

cold cargo
sacred mica
#

i take back what i said then... altho i feel like cryo% would still be better than basic atk% tbh

#

lmao

winged mesa
#

rly depends on how much youre using those skills

cold cargo
#

If youre getting noticable dmg from bs and cs, sure

sacred mica
#

yeah, fair

#

isn't her bs quite good dmgwise?

cold cargo
#

Depends

#

Can be

sacred mica
#

fair enuf

acoustic edge
cold cargo
#

Sin was working on a nef rot that killed phase1 with tt nados and yv bs

acoustic edge
#

So btk dmg isn't necessarily bad

winged mesa
#

batk gear is ~1.2x cryo dmg

sacred mica
ember shale
acoustic edge
#

It is?

sacred mica
winged mesa
#

35.9 vs 29.9

sacred mica
#

i mean, all skill% is like 1.3 or 1.4, which is for sum reason better than ba%, which is weird

acoustic edge
sacred mica
#

yucky

acoustic edge
#

Cause btk is counted separate from skills ig

sacred mica
sacred mica
acoustic edge
#

With how high yvonnes dmg share is in ult its not that bad i think

sacred mica
#

i mean tbh. this is exactly why chiv is stupid good on yv

winged mesa
#

batk has way a lot more instances of damage to be fair

sacred mica
#

high uptime atk% helps yv alot to dish out more dmg

sacred mica
#

if u play solo op, it prolly goes as high as like 80%, lol

#

for most unit w dmg skills

#

part of the problem w high basic atk is just... u dont't typically have very high buffs uptime so technically, it could yield less dmg compared to other dmg bonus sources that specifically buff ur highest dmg output during peak buff time

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at least that's what i feel lmao

hard cradle
#

When will Laevatain return after this banner? Not familiar with the schedule of this genre of game

sacred mica
#

noone know

acoustic edge
#

^

#

Next rerun might be way later or just a few banners away

supple pollen
# hard cradle When will Laevatain return after this banner? Not familiar with the schedule of ...

If we treat other 3darpg gacha as the baseline then usually a cadence of ~3-10+ patches, with it increasing from the lower end to the higher end as the game gets older and there are more units to rerun. Worst rerun gaps can be a year or two once the game is pretty old, but a couple months is somewhat more realistic.

This first rerun was 2 patches after their releases but is a special banner type not a dedicated rerun.

If the devs decide to rerun exclusively through this special banner type then reruns may be more frequent than singular banners.

A lot of words to basically say we dont know and our educated guesses are w/e

winged mesa
#

its somewhere between a second and a billion or two

hard cradle
#

Hmmmm, I have around 100+k Orundum saved up plus tickets

If they show arcane off before then and she works well with my main team (Breach/Crush) I might hold off

winged mesa
#

cool

strong oak
#

what team for zhuang fangyi?

ocean jay
simple goblet
strong oak
#

I mean u not wrong

royal orbit
#

I finally found the most braindead team that works for me: ZF
Just elec stax then pop ZF skill once infliction is on

winged mesa
# strong oak what team for zhuang fangyi?

a lot of fangyi team's base ground is just Fangyi Perlica Flex Flex,
and popular picks for flex options being:

  • arclight/akekuri/alesh: sp recovery with thermite enabler and their personal buffs
  • gilberta: good susceptibility debuff
  • antal: general comfort de/buffer + 1 elec stack on cs
  • ardelia: same sp usage as antal with her own debuffs and whatnot

some rather not so popular options

  • avywenna: works as subdps, also can provide Elec Susc and Infliction
  • tangtang: universal arts debuffer but pretty invasive since she has 1 cryo stack on bs/ult
  • Rossi: usual stuff where shes splashable for wheelchair comps
strong oak
#

Soo I can just do zf Gilberta perlica, and antal

digital salmon
#

what's tangtang gear set? did it get updated with new sets

lapis gulch
#

does anyone have a build for pog as a rossi sub dps?

winged mesa
strong oak
#

Nice

#

thanks

winged mesa
digital salmon
winged mesa
#

neither of them are bis, situationally good on their own

#

set comes at your own preference

#

do you mind or do you not mind her cs cooldown

digital salmon
#

oh ok, i was running her in yvonne team
i guess i'll go qingbo since having ult gain is nice and cs cdr

#

since i dont think bonekrusha set gets ult gain on chest

glass ruin
#

Rena do u have that msg on a clipboard on zfy team comp

winged mesa
#

ye

glass ruin
#

Waowaow

livid scaffold
#

hi i have question about is it better to leave freedom to proselytize or change it chivarlic virtues?

glass ruin
#

Is that xaihi? Chiv is better but only buy weapons from shops if u know the trade off

ocean jay
acoustic edge
drifting narwhal
#

Holy maxed freedom

rose abyss
#

Can any good teams be made on here?
I’m tryna get fangyi but im a beginner..just about to hit lvl 20*

rose abyss
#

o?

teal dew
#

Laev wulf ake and arde

rose abyss
#

ooo
thank you!!
im gonna start building them then :D

#

oh
can i do a team with fangyi or does she need more characters?
for when i get her

livid mirage
#

Is lavacake as powerful as zhuang fangyi

teal dew
rose abyss
#

oo okii!!

livid mirage
teal dew
livid mirage
#

that or I added an extra zero

teal dew
#

Idk my laev did how much damage, haven't fully arctificed her gear yet

grave badger
#

Gil sig or no? I have 17k arsenals

#

So I can afford it

#

Rn all I have is p0 Gil and stanza p5

acoustic edge
#

i wouldnt generally recommend

grave badger
#

Fair nough

acoustic edge
#

theres good use cases but whilst a lot of other sigs are clear upgrades from every other available option, gilb sig at p0 is more of a sidegrade to stanza

#

it has bis use cases but isnt always

#

thinking abt it sidegrade is a bit weird to say cause they each have pretty clear use cases

#

but you get the point

stuck zodiac
#

can ember replace chen in phys team.making it pog,endmin,lifeng,ember?

split citrus
#

guys, i don't really understand how essences work (what is the difference between valley IV and wuling essences? is there like different drop rates or do they do different things? which ops would prefer V4 versus wuling essences on their weapons?), and i don't want to waste sanity or resources unnecessarily by farming for things i won't end up using. if i'm building these two teams (might build laev later but since i just got her and i've already invested in these guys, i'm sticking with this), is there like- a specific region or alluvium i should farm from?

undone coral
#

Here's sample burst rotations for the two poverty Yvonne team we talked about. I've minmaxed the rotations to the best of my ability. My thoughts...

**Vonne / Xai / Perly / Alesh: **

  • Higher damage ceiling
  • Absolute HELL on the pilot if you want to minmax it perfectly. The hardest part is fitting your burst into Perlica’s 9s electrify: your cryo stacks mostly come from Xaihi's cs, which has an overlapping trigger with Perlica's cs; so there's no way to hold Perlica's cs til when you need it.
  • Slower setup.
  • Very tight on stagger—though this matters more against bosses like Rhodagn where staggering matters.

Vonne / Xai / Alesh / Estella:

  • Lower damage ceiling.
  • Pretty easy to pilot and reach minmax damage. Just remember a general button-press order and the rest should come together by itself.
  • Easier on stacks and setup, if you just want to “random bullshit go”; less need to track a strict rotation.
  • Stagger in abundance, especially if you m1 Estella’s ult.

Obviously, if you’re NOT minmaxing, either is fine to play. It’ll still be the same tradeoffs: Perly's team has a higher ceiling; Estella's team is more comfortable.

As for UG, both teams should get ults back with Yvonne cs x2 + Yvonne bs x2 (2 stacks each).

I handicapped my team so they should match your investment level:

  • Yvonne p5p0 Artzy, essence removed (≈ Yvonne p0p0 max essence)
  • Chivalric Virtues "p1" (i.e., Chiv p4 with essence removed)
  • Thermite Cutter p1, max essence

-# || u found sln's fw tag FluoAkePeek ||

winged mesa
#

theyre all the same drop rate

undone coral
long shell
#

p5 yvonnePerliStare

undone coral
winged mesa
#

cus thats what they got

#

aint no way bro is making another account with a p0 yvonne now do they

undone coral
#

I’m not making a new account just to make rotations PerliWheeze

junior pier
#

i dont see p00r yvonne sticker so its irrelevant

#

yvonne main must be loaded

undone coral
#

TangtangPout don’t assume, I’m an LR main

junior pier
#

me p00r main

ocean jay
glass ruin
#

slnnnnnnnn

#

joy

undone coral
#

so happy to see me? ICANT
man, I go touch grass for one day and missed all the fun

winged mesa
#

hehehe

#

stanza back in shop today btw

glass ruin
#

i now have p3 stanza and 3 p0 stanzas smile

grim prairie
#

This a good team comp? using aby as sub dps because i already have her fully built

winged mesa
#

👍

vale turret
#

What are best gear 5 star gear for her and the teammates

wise wagon
#

who should I use among laevatain teammates? wulfgard, antal, ardelia, akekuri, gilberta (not sure if this is relevant but wulfgard, antal, and akekuri are p5)

winged mesa
winged mesa
winged mesa
#

a popular starting comp is wulf akekuri ardelia

winged mesa
wise wagon
autumn linden
#

what's chen bis team?

winged mesa
#

its good in any pot but i dont recommend it in 0ult starts

#

it has no uge so it will be a waste of sp to get ult

mighty crypt
#

What's a good team that involves estella as either a sub-dps or a support?

wise wagon
glass ruin
#

chen bis probably phys chen? chen pog lifeng endmin/panda
estella team is prob crush so alesh estella endmin chen?

meager plinth
#

Which one of Gil?

loud stump
#

Stanza’s better than BP for Gil? my stanza’s only p1 ChenCry

#

Not planning on sig.

ocean jay
#

and rn all maindps no one is nature that makes stanza even easier to activate the buff

loud stump
#

Nvm stanza’s P2 I guess lmao

ocean jay
loud stump
#

CV bis for who?

fickle robin
#

Have theory crafters came to a general consensus on what's the best team for Rossi ?? Like physical team or hypercarry ?

ocean jay
#

bis for xaihi yes, cyro team

winged mesa
winged mesa
ocean jay
late bramble
#

k... i really like looking at ember from behind, how do i build/play her

plucky marsh
#

Should I pull for that last 40 pulls for 1 more 6s and 2k arsenal? I have Laeva and Pog at P1 and Ardelia at P4, Gil at P0

late bramble
#

probably better to divert it to limited banner

plucky marsh
#

Even after these 40 pulls I should have enought pulls for 120 pity on the limited ops next patch, but I do hope that I only need to pull 1 new ops

junior pier
#

tho just wait for other support for laev tbh

#

currently laev still using *4 and *5 respectfully, it still open slot for upgrade version

#

and we still have not got *6 striker for physical

loud stump
#

potentials aren’t insane

pearl surge
#

we need solo carry phy dps

#

not the sub-dps but laev/zf tier dps for phy

fleet sundial
#

Hello. Where was the excel?

pearl surge
#

pin

fleet sundial
#

Thank you

#

There was one more excel, right?

pearl surge
#

iana is not updated anymore

#

iana at least until 1.1

#

that is iana ones

junior pier
# loud stump potentials aren’t insane

some potential are intentionally make you want to pull, like Fangyi sp cut for example, but we just have to wait for *6 elec sp regen unit in future to solve this problem PerliWheeze

#

its quite scummy, but i do understand

pearl surge
#

pot is insane, especially, only p4 and p5 lol

junior pier
distant carbon
#

i have 4 meta teams all with no repeating units, will this be good enough for future endgame?

#

as f2p

pearl surge
#

f2p, you have laev, yvonne, tangtang, zf, gilb

#

damn, you lucky bastard

distant carbon
pearl surge
#

ARGHHHHH

#

that much luck is crime

distant carbon
pearl surge
#

but ... why ... among all weapon

#

you pick gilb weapon

#

also never rest

distant carbon
#

gilb buffs every single arts reaction, so her sig would have more value than other sigs

pearl surge
#

TT weapon can be considered as debuff weapon

#

if you think dps weapon is inferior, then, TT weapon considered as debuff weapon which has value in it

wild solar
#

future endgame
powercrept
So yeah, it will never be good enough.

distant carbon
wild solar
#

next meta dps will probably be nature
Bold speculation.

pearl surge
junior pier
#

i cant comment about potential since im p00r player

graceful yacht
#

Fangyi Team?

wild solar
#

Just uh, be lucky.

junior pier
#

for now im waiting for *6 support version for each of my mdps

pearl surge
#

what if, i want to become lucky but laev love me too much

wild solar
#

Also why does that sticker look like it came out of a horror movie?

pearl surge
#

ah, now that i think about it, in every pull that, there is laev in it, if i lose 50/50, i will always got laev

distant carbon
pearl surge
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yes, now i think about it, i always got laev if i lose my 50/50, when there is laev in it

distant carbon
pearl surge
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rossi is not trully physical

wild solar
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Only...one for physical?
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distant carbon
pearl surge
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eh, it should be none, because all dps is sub dps in phy '3')

distant carbon
#

yeah that

graceful yacht
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Fangyi Perlica Gilberta?

pearl surge
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we have none of solo carry type of dps for physical

graceful yacht
#

Or Ardelia for the Corrosion?

pearl surge
#

eh, we have, the solo carry physical is ... pog '3')

wild solar
#

Look at sheet on your own thanks.

distant carbon
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also physical sustainless is just kinda weird to play unless i run ember

graceful yacht
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Does Fangyi need corrossion

wild solar
#

Look at sheet on your own thanks.

graceful yacht
livid mirage
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PerliDerp ardelia there for heals

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Fangyi so powerful, you can throw ember there and it'll work

graceful yacht
#

The fourth member is ?

graceful yacht
livid mirage
distant carbon
graceful yacht
#

2 Gilbertas?

livid mirage
graceful yacht
#

Sub burst dps

fleet sundial
supple pollen
#

Very likely Iana's is outdated for what you'd building

#

but it's still good enough to clear

fleet sundial
livid mirage
wild solar
#

Is this the all-my-six-stars team?

livid mirage
fleet sundial
distant carbon
# pearl surge also never rest

btw never rest cause pog is good buffer + sp maker for all physical teams

so with gilb sig + pog sig i made sure my account can stay in value with the changing meta since i have coverage for all arts damage + physical

livid mirage
fleet sundial
distant carbon
livid mirage
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I feel like people whalr and blame luck

fleet sundial
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Rossi 50/50 gave me Tangtang

livid mirage
winged mesa
livid mirage
winged mesa
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works just fien if you remove gilberta in a tangtang xaihi gilberta comp