team-build

[eternal cedar]

wait no
need 2 more

[undone coral]

still close
just wait for a few weeks, shop rotation's gotchu

[eternal cedar]

got it

[winged mesa]

i mean not like you NEED stanza to be p5

it performs just as well in any potential

[worthy estuary]

wait. if i run zfy perli arc avy, there is no reason not to use stanza on perli yes?

[eternal cedar]

might go xira gloves for more buff uptime

[undone coral]

stanza ≠ same element 🧱

[winged mesa]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mayhaps

[worthy estuary]

uhhh, i forgor about that

[undone coral]

big forgor moment

[lofty citrus]

this should be better

[glass ruin]

my trust gifts have failed me i dont have day 1 food for this event

[lofty citrus]

pushing this update along today's update

[winged mesa]

whats 100% supposed to mean

[lofty citrus]

means its the best avaialble

[undone coral]

oh, for artificing solver, are you now prioritizing cheaper gears (8k bills, xira components) on the top for tied #1?
last i checked, it only solves for stat match and not crafting costs

[winged mesa]

i feel like it might lead to some misunderstanding

[eternal cedar]

now i just need tcreds to get perl p3 to put on gold gear

[winged mesa]

also redeemer cant use set items

[winged mesa]

*a lot of peeps have misunderstanding in regards of "Artificing Attempt 0/9"

[lofty citrus]

dont you prefer using lower tier stuff no?

[lofty citrus]

wait really?

[winged mesa]

uh yeah

[lofty citrus]

fuck

[undone coral]

like, here
BK figurine T2 shouldn't be tied #1 cus it's thrice more expensive

[winged mesa]

that was the problem in the first place

[lofty citrus]

i didnt know about that, and i've been doing a lot of artificing recently XD

[undone coral]

yeah i do, but the calculator doesn't prefer lower tier stuff yet

[hollow beacon]

would archlight be a good fit for a team that has the endmin, perlica, and chen? or should I use some one else?

[lofty citrus]

fixign that

[winged mesa]

she can be a fit, not that good

[worthy estuary]

akekuri exist so prob not

[winged mesa]

ardelia exists

[worthy estuary]

alesh exist

[undone coral]

csbot go

[worthy estuary]

hmmm.... whats perlica doing there anyways?

[undone coral]

lore team

[worthy estuary]

stanza?

gilberta then. she is always with you just offscreen

[eternal cedar]

last thing hows the rest of my team looking

[winged mesa]

stanza, oblivion, ww

[lofty citrus]

this s good now?

[winged mesa]

the options arent limited

[uneven oar]

where M12 fluorite

[undone coral]

this on LR? why

[dim ridge]

What am I gonna with the new purifier it like 2 km away from any base

[winged mesa]

im gonna confirm some stuffs first brb

[lofty citrus]

wait you can use non-set on set ones

[undone coral]

not so sure ab these either

[dim ridge]

[undone coral]

yep, sacc nonset for set = good match

[eternal cedar]

I highkey followed the wiki other than the gear i saw that looked better to compliment their skills

[cold cargo]

The xaihi gear

[uneven oar]

which wiki oh my god

[undone coral]

holdup i'll send mine

[eternal cedar]

I kinda forgot abt LR gear

[eternal cedar]

mobalytics or smth

[uneven oar]

[undone coral]

my condolences

[eternal cedar]

Tide surge is good on her tho right

[winged mesa]

ok yeah this good

[undone coral]

yup

[uneven oar]

there's a guide for LR in the pin bruh, stop trusting random ad-bait website for your builds

[lofty citrus]

isnt this instead no?

[undone coral]

clown/mylazyahh haven't updated it in a while
just ask here is better, idk what info's up there

[lofty citrus]

cause non)set one are the best for set one most of the time right?

[eternal cedar]

ngl i joined the server after i built my team mainly for help with factory stuff

[uneven oar]

yea but LR is pretty up to date

[undone coral]

all of the time, when applicable

[eternal cedar]

but I decided I'll get some team help while im at

[uneven oar]

good choice

[winged mesa]

i was thinking does different base value have different good match bcs if no MiSec armor shd be first since its xira comp

[cold cargo]

Tbh it is just missing the uge sets

[undone coral]

yeah
my uge calculator in the works

kanos alr did half the work for me

[unborn vault]

hi, i have a maxed piece of lv70 gear but want to swap it for another one, is there any option to get mats from it back? or just dismantle from valuable stash for few wuling bucks

[north fjord]

In fangyi team, is termite cutter better used by arclight or akekuri?

[junior pier]

[eternal cedar]

So for the off gear I go for uge on them all?

[cold cargo]

Oouu nice

[worthy estuary]

arclight
akekuri can use fortmaker

[cold cargo]

Not really/depends

[winged mesa]

saying nice to slavery?!

[cold cargo]

Yes

[north fjord]

Not obj?

[winged mesa]

[hollow beacon]

I have been using the default team then realised that it not generating enough energy for me to use my character skills and the damage of the team just dies in the middle of a fight because i thought it was a good idea to have all the damage the characters do to only exist when i am using the character skills

[worthy estuary]

you wanna do more ult over extra dmg%

[teal dew]

For my laevatain's comp, how much uge is at least needed for wulf, I used obj and already etch the essence to around 29%

[eternal cedar]

on?

[junior pier]

you mean sp yeah thats why fangyi need 2 guard

[worthy estuary]

lacking pogniknik

[undone coral]

@eternal cedar
Perly can also go hotworks gloves for more AI
Tangtang has a LOT of uge options, each sacrificing a varying degree of dmg. build here is for damage maxxing.

[worthy estuary]

234 or 241 depending on lae pots

[hollow beacon]

ye....
i forgor what is was called

[cold cargo]

Content youre doing / pots

[eternal cedar]

i did have questions abt this but i'll save em for when I max lvl my elec team

[eternal cedar]

downloaded

[cold cargo]

You use uge hands on perli ?

[undone coral]

squariness wanted them

i gave options and they said uge

[junior pier]

most of guard class has access to sp regen like arclight, akekuri or alesh they r usually inserted in team if ur team heavy rely on infliction consume like fangyi or laev

[undone coral]

how much ult gain do u want on tangtang? enough to be comfy in general use? or to perfectly line up with a second burst rotation?
because that decides how much damage we're gonna sacrifice

[junior pier]

if ur team just like to smash things up like those mono cryo you dont really need guard

[eternal cedar]

not too much bc doesnt lr ult also put on stacks

[undone coral]

nope, LR ult just damage

[eternal cedar]

wait no im thinking of bs

[winged mesa]

please differ vanguard and guard

[undone coral]

if you're not minmaxing for SUPER tight rotations, tang can get away with just an uge chestplate

[eternal cedar]

yeah no im not lol

Just tryna blow things up

[undone coral]

alright, go with bonekrusha heavy armor (agi/int/uge) instead of heavy armor t2
HA T2 (shown in image) is for damagemaxxing
-# reason i'm suggesting heavy armor instead of yinglung statmatch uge armor + BK gloves is flexibility in case u ever wanna go BK+uge kit

[junior pier]

oh yeah i forgot

can we just call them pioneer or something

[hollow beacon]

oh ok... i see

[undone coral]

2 block, DP on skill activation, fraudulent guards and powercrept by agents
-# akog spook

[junior pier]

im not used to their main class tbh

[eternal cedar]

alr ty will update after i return from classes

[undone coral]

oh lookee i found my bad napkin math
TT 3nado damage vs uge

[hollow beacon]

this is the team i am using
would it count as a team that is used to "smash things up"

or an infliction team?

[undone coral]

woah lore team all the way huh

[junior pier]

definitely need pog

[hollow beacon]

I see thx

[lament nest]

Pog amazing sp generator, too bad I don't play physical team..(no resources)

[hollow beacon]

planning to use it until powercreep makes the team useless

[lament nest]

Ain't no way you have the patience to not use other teams

[junior pier]

its hard to say there is powercreep in this game where the enemies barely called hard

[lament nest]

I have like 5 teams built

[junior pier]

all i see equipment powercreep

more factory

[lament nest]

Yep, Umbral is the only noticeably hard

For some

[hollow beacon]

1: im lazy to build other teams
2: i have been playing this game for a month and somehow still dont know any of the team comps

[lament nest]

Happy to help if you're confused

[winged mesa]

is it really all that weird

ive been using laev since 1.0, pulled fangyi, continued to use laev

[lament nest]

Not weird at all, it's just that.. it's boring. At least in my case

[winged mesa]

i mean thats subjective

[worthy estuary]

i tried doing electric and physical team, just to use Lae on regular basis anyways

[junior pier]

as an Ardel dps user, i agree

[lament nest]

I still remembered my Wulfgard main with xaihi back then 😂

[uneven oar]

i'm still on my 1.0 team lol

[slender spear]

i've been playing the same 2 teams for a while

[lament nest]

Ember looks so freaking cool, too bad her entire kit isn't that worth it 😭

[junior pier]

tho i like fangyi design which tell you that if you still fail to dodge after her ridiculous dodge design you probably has skill issue

[uneven oar]

skill issue!

i cleared everything and trimmed everything with ember

[lament nest]

I'm talking about her kit-

[slender spear]

been sticking to these 2 teams for a while now. Don't have any other operators built

well okay technically antal is leveled

[uneven oar]

yeah she does 2 vuln stack that's about it

nevermind the free shield and insane amount of stagger

[hollow beacon]

is there a difference between wepon essence you get in wuling and the ones you get in valley 4
or do they do the same thing

[lament nest]

Imagine if ember can inflict heat 🥴

[slender spear]

some essences combinations can only be found in wuling

[worthy estuary]

some essences cannot be found anywhere other than wuling

for example laevatain sig, or stanza 3/3 essences

[hollow beacon]

ah ok i see

[lament nest]

You're the only person I see using Catcher with that level of investment

[undone coral]

🐳

[glass ruin]

i was producing them for awhile hm

[slender spear]

i may have bought the shop oblivion a few times...

also kinda got lucky and pulled it twice

and gotten one with a crate...

[undone coral]

[glass ruin]

what is that team is it just everybody go

[undone coral]

how high does ur perly mdps go

go hit us a 2M rhodagn finisher

[mild oxide]

Good day fellow endfielders! I've been wanting to prepare for the upcoming cc so I wanted to ask for u guys' opinions right now I have 4 teams, the Cryo, Electro, and Physical build are already maxed. The last is the fire team (cuz I pulled both for lae and gil earlier)

I was wondering if I should already build the fire team or hoard as much materials as possible

[undone coral]

dunno about other teams but
perlica wants stanza in cryo

[slender spear]

i don't have the rest of the usual perli dps team built so i haven't seen how high i can get it

[glass ruin]

we dont know what cc will be so imo you can do whichever you want, hoard or build

[slender spear]

i'd have to build arclight 🤢

[mild oxide]

can swap out for it since I have stanza alrd built at some point

[undone coral]

stanza lv1 works too 🙃

but built stanza is nice yeah

[sacred mica]

imagine nonmax stanza

[knotty mason]

This for Gilberta?

[undone coral]

imagine non max monai
@sacred mica

[glass ruin]

still missing 2 will pips

[sacred mica]

CRAZY

[undone coral]

tomorrow trust™

[sacred mica]

oh right i haven't continued building my yv, ugh

[mild oxide]

though i was wondering if I should alrd build the fire team since all 3 teams are built anyway, shouldn't have trouble with cc at that point no?

[glass ruin]

u could just hoard and wait to see when cc actually happens and then decide to build fire or not

[undone coral]

consistently works well
situationally BiS

[mild oxide]

what do you suggest with my expiring sanity cards

[glass ruin]

anything u feel you want more of

[undone coral]

grind, then hoard

be rena sitting on 1.1k protohedrons

[knotty mason]

so this weapon?

I'm putting her into my Rossi team

[undone coral]

yup works

[knotty mason]

So now, my Rossi team will be Rossi, Akekuri, Endmin and Gilberta

What about gear?

[supple pollen]

Xiranite is fine, SM is optional for some content on demand. QB is usable but near impossible to get good value out of on that team. Some ult start rots might go heavier on uge than usual but that's more of a high pot thing

corrosion is too expensive to bother with AI

[knotty mason]

This one?

[undone coral]

eternal xiranite

the other green one

[hollow beacon]

is this fine for him?

[knotty mason]

this one?

[undone coral]

i hope you don't mean LYNX
these ones here

[knotty mason]

ofc

the selector just happens to be at that

take all or which ones?

[sacred mica]

@undone coral u likin my yv?

[undone coral]

gloves t1 (int/will/uge) and two aux arms (will/int/uge)
then bring a redeemer armor (int/uge)
for ugemaxxing

does rossi trigger corrosion at all? i doubt we'd aimax

[supple pollen]

you can offpiece the body or a kit if you plan to use just one set of gear for all teams

[rare kettle]

Work pookie, work

[knotty mason]

I dunno. I only use her because I like her

[rare kettle]

She can but in 90% of cases no, we dont proc corrosion

[supple pollen]

you'd run an AI offpiece if you plan to use her on other teams generically where she will proc the corro

[undone coral]

ok, then just

• redeemer armor (int/uge)
• xira glove t1 (int/will/uge)
• xira aux arm x2 (will/int/uge)

[knotty mason]

Currently Rossi

[sacred mica]

what skill should i m3 for my last one @undone coral

[undone coral]

for other teams with corro it'd be

• xira armor (will/int/ai)
• xira glove t1
• xira aux arm
• hotworks cartridge (will/int/ai)

[sacred mica]

[rare kettle]

Xaihi ba

[undone coral]

battleskill

[sacred mica]

xai alr m12, smh

[undone coral]

btw, yvonne bs is higher prio than basic lol

at least in speed

[sacred mica]

w8 wut, huh fr?

wtf-

[undone coral]

ult enhanced basics use ult multipliers

[drifting narwhal]

It always has been

[sacred mica]

[supple pollen]

long rots batk wins

only for speedrunning does bskill win

[sacred mica]

welp, it's decided then

[undone coral]

so in speed, basics only buff the two final strikes that you do

[sacred mica]

ba soon

[knotty mason]

This?

[undone coral]

this, btw, is beautiful

[rare kettle]

You? Ye, you are

[undone coral]

u too pookie u too

-#

[rare kettle]

[lofty citrus]

👀

[undone coral]

niceee

do u plan on adding common speedrunnable UM bosses?

[lofty citrus]

which ones?

[winged mesa]

basically any non umbral mob stages tbh

[undone coral]

tidalklast
hill smasher
does the rock guy count? afaik he's a punching bag for 0ult

[winged mesa]

but mostly the last stages of each umbral

[lofty citrus]

these?

[winged mesa]

ye

[undone coral]

oh nice so u have a special UM category

[lofty citrus]

its there yupp

[undone coral]

awesome

[lofty citrus]

i also plan on doing CC section

big big feature for CC

[supple pollen]

Are there any enforced rules or is it anything goes

[cold cargo]

Is there seperate sub categories for bosses

p0p0 vs any pot

[lofty citrus]

anything goes, but moderators but we have a tool to approve or not something

and you need a video to enter

[supple pollen]

bit of a shame but it is what it is

[lofty citrus]

yeah otherwise people can just spam bullshit lol

[sacred mica]

ofc, dijang meta

slave at work

[undone coral]

idk how you'd split the categories tbh
different operators powerspike at different pots
so i doubt it'd be a competition, probably just a collage

also, you'd have to account for awkward brackets like
p5 yvonne + p0 tangtang

[lofty citrus]

azrent like character dupes 4% different damage per dupe?

[cold cargo]

Just p0p0 vs any pot idk

[supple pollen]

per cost categories would be the assumption, same as how other gacha handle it

[sacred mica]

why not run it like that last compe maygi joined?

it needs a fresh acc tho

[undone coral]

i'm pretty sure this is just, "post runs that you've done" type of thing
not a competition

[sacred mica]

oh

[undone coral]

per cost? wdym

[supple pollen]

0c/2c/4c/6c/uncapped and whatnot

[supple pollen]

6* unit/pot/weapon/weaponpot = 1c

[undone coral]

ic

but powerspikes in different places

[supple pollen]

no perfect solution

[undone coral]

like LR's p3 is not much different from p5 if u don't cycle her ult

yeah...

[supple pollen]

cost grouping just helps to equalise

[cold cargo]

What i was thinking is just seperating p0p0 runs since they kinda do their own thing

[supple pollen]

2c would be p0p0 with 5* support/weapons

[cold cargo]

Like me and bluejay both run the same lr team but get vastly different times

[supple pollen]

4c is either x2 p0p0 or x1 p0p0 and 2 6* weapons for supports

and so on and so forth

[undone coral]

yeah ic

[pearl surge]

s1n p3 LR when '3')

[cold cargo]

when rena buys a chair

[undone coral]

idk if weapon pots weighted same as operator pots tho
but ofc it's hard to find a perfect solution

would it be better to standardize "c" with origeometry and pull rates? so pots and ops are weighted differently?

[supple pollen]

changes would be able to be ported to endfield like half cost per weapon pot and the like but it'd be entirely down to whoever hosts it

[undone coral]

yeah

[winged mesa]

costs are a bit standardized amongst every 3d gacha games

[supple pollen]

if whoever is hosting clears doesnt want to go through the hassle then something like is being done where anything goes is the better solution

p0p0 players can cry about it or whatnot

fictional leaderboard system with no actual value tied to it anyway

[cold cargo]

Just being able to see team pots would be enough now that i realize

[winged mesa]

since almost every 3d gachage has a 4man party and theyre all quite literally just amounts of dupes anyways

[cold cargo]

Just adding a filter function to see pX clears would solve it

[undone coral]

every lookinside meme ever

[winged mesa]

for a leaderboard imo is just to put your pots on top of the description of said videos or any sort of text walls

[undone coral]

i have p5 gil p0 yvonne
what would that count as

[winged mesa]

weapons?

[cold cargo]

Hover over the operator to see

[supple pollen]

i was talking to maygi a while back about a lot of this stuff when we were discussing about hosting community speedrun tournaments

nothing is ever going to like actually solve it and make it fair

[cold cargo]

Just a way to be able to differentiate team potentials without going into the video would be a fine solution

[supple pollen]

if its cataloguing speedruns yeah

[winged mesa]

'make it fair' here is like the main problem

[supple pollen]

but for any sort of competition you cant just do that

[winged mesa]

aint no shit is going to make luck fair

[undone coral]

shuo you speedrun?

[supple pollen]

no i quite literally lack the hands for it

and the hardware

[undone coral]

[bold sable]

should i get gilberta ? im maining zhuang fangyi

[supple pollen]

i plan to buy a better pc later this year but I can't buy a cure to my disability

[slender spear]

just max pot everything so it's fair

[cold cargo]

Yea i was talking about the endfieldtools "catalogue" of runs, for competitions what i said wouldnt hold

[undone coral]

ah-
craft rots and hire hifumi

[pearl surge]

leaderboard filter by pot '3')

[winged mesa]

1 for all account, tourney now takes 3 weeks to finish gameplay

[pearl surge]

but that is only for 1 operator '3')

[undone coral]

solo clear tourney

[undone coral]

does she work with fangyi? yes
must-pull? team mainstay? no
situationally better or worse than alternatives

so "should" is up to you

[sacred mica]

no 6* tourney (including ops and weapon)

[pearl surge]

the only way people can have tourney, well, the original endfield, with provided account, other than that its hard to see the fairness

[bold sable]

hm okay

[cold cargo]

So just all avywenna tourney

[winged mesa]

so avy team tourney

[cold cargo]

All with cohesive

[supple pollen]

i mean ultimately if I were to run one I'd just make it 4c or so and whales can cry about it, they dont need the money anyway

[sacred mica]

no jet tho, would be funny

[sacred mica]

lmao

[winged mesa]

that wont change shit

[sacred mica]

well ban avy too then

[winged mesa]

p5 cohesive traction, p5 wild wanderer, p5 obj arts identifier, p5 obj edge of lightness

giga dilute dmg% all dmg is the same

its just a route check now

[undone coral]

4 6* total? hm
ig whales can cry about it will be fun seeing how limited teams play around that

[cold cargo]

Bro hosted the most shit tournament ever

[autumn wasp]

It's all part of a conspiracy to make weapons like Thermite and Detonation Unit more valuable.

[slender spear]

4 star only tourney. all the ops would be max pot anyways

[undone coral]

xaihi tickel tickel, who can tickel faster

[sacred mica]

i mean, at least it'll be fair, LOL

[jade basalt]

This weapon good for pog ye? It makes him onfield DPS?

[cold cargo]

bink
tickel tickel

[sacred mica]

[cold cargo]

That shit is NOT fair

[drifting narwhal]

Pog dps

[cold cargo]

Ppl with disposable free time have an edge

[uneven oar]

bro rolled for never rest 🥀
my condolences

[sacred mica]

[sacred mica]

gib it a timeframe

[uneven oar]

(i rolled for never rest)

[jade basalt]

Uh?

[undone coral]

yvonne + tt + chiv + gil
4c

[jade basalt]

I wanted to get grand vision or something for endmin

[cold cargo]

I wont run that shit even if you gave me a year 🥀

[winged mesa]

stays true for all sort of game tourney though?

[undone coral]

yvonne wedge
xai chiv
tt obj
gil stanza

[sacred mica]

well, anw yeah no i don't think it'll ever be possibly fair anw

[cold cargo]

30 mins per run

[jade basalt]

Should I give never rest or thermite cutter to pog?

[supple pollen]

thermite wins out in near enough every case right now

[pearl surge]

eh, if you have NR, just use NR, you can put thermite to other

[undone coral]

oh shuo would you count bp 6* weps as 1c?
hypothetically

[cold cargo]

Yea, no im not throwing beans at rhod for 30 mins with a xaihi mdps and no 6* weapon

[supple pollen]

yes

[undone coral]

oh wow, strict huh

[supple pollen]

they suck so its like w/e but future proofing the rules in case ones in the future are good

this is purely if I were to run one, not what everyone else needs to follow

[undone coral]

they're competing with sig at pot5 like most 5* weps

[slender spear]

tourney with 4 star operators and weapons only so everyone has max pot already

[sacred mica]

what's c?

[supple pollen]

cost

[undone coral]

yeah true, im just thinking how i'd play cryo under those rules

[sacred mica]

oh k

[supple pollen]

1 cost given to each 6*, potential or base copy

[pearl surge]

1 op = 1c, pot accumulative 4 = 1c '3')

[merry token]

Idk if BP weapons should be cost, maybe only after a certain amount of BP weapons

[sacred mica]

no 6*, bp weapon only

that would be a funny rule

[cold cargo]

Lr khra
Xai stanza
Tt sig
Perli/gil stanza

[undone coral]

lr + khrav + tt + deto
lr / khrav
xai / deto
tt / obj
perl / stanza

[undone coral]

wait whauhhh xai stanz

[sacred mica]

[cold cargo]

Intmaxx

[undone coral]

💀

[jade basalt]

Who do I give? (Is never rest that bad..)

[cold cargo]

Pick your poison

[undone coral]

vertical o_o

[sacred mica]

why not starry doe

[undone coral]

6* = 1c

[cold cargo]

Starry is a 6*

[sacred mica]

oh i see

[pearl surge]

at this level, you shouldn't bother with NR or thermite, you can just play the game

[sacred mica]

[merry token]

Never rest is fine on pog, it's just not usually worth pulling for since thermite exists

[cold cargo]

Tt sig is doing more than deto for sure

[jade basalt]

Csn I give thermite to endmin?

[undone coral]

@cold cargo make a new acc let's play shuo's rules
i lowkey sorta wanna when im free which i'm not rn

[pearl surge]

well if you have NR, just use NR, NR not worth pulling for other, but, not the worse to use if you have them

[merry token]

If you are using never rest on pog then forget about thermite

[pearl surge]

people just allergic with NR for some reason

[merry token]

Thermite is there for vanguards in general

[cold cargo]

Just get a zfy and the challenge is alr over

Zfy sig
Antal deto
Perli ww
Ake thermite

[jade basalt]

Ohh , endmin can't use never rest either?

[undone coral]

right, yeah, that's her usual team 💀

[supple pollen]

id have to look into the logistics and how easily I could host it (probably asking maygi or guoba or something to do it via their servers) but the prizing would be like $25 total lol
$15 for 1st, x2 $5 for 2nd/3rd because I really do not have the money to throw around

id iron out the rules if I committed to it atp

[merry token]

Fluorite in cryo finally useful?

[undone coral]

idk how tourneys usually work, is it "everyone make a fresh acc" or?

[cold cargo]

Never

[undone coral]

never
perl stanza both 5

[pearl surge]

well tourney is just for fun anyway

[supple pollen]

no you'd use your own account you'd just not be able to participate for prizing if you cant meet the rules

[winged mesa]

set rules here and there

unless ur dev

[supple pollen]

in an ideal world there'd be sections for all people but too much hassle too much money

[undone coral]

ah..
god i hope endfield lets us switch off operator pots even if it's just for simming

but afaik no gacha does that

[cold cargo]

My lr alone breaks the rules

Or my deto

[pearl surge]

in fact, it is a good idea

i mean, people sometime just love challange

[undone coral]

it's too niche for devs to implement
probably only challenge clear / sr tournament qol

but one can daydream

[pearl surge]

and if they love gambling, with on and off pots, they can fulfill people who loves challange also loves gambling

[merry token]

Cc condition where you can't use 6 stars

[cold cargo]

I kinda wish we had adjustable pots

[pearl surge]

CC condition where there is no natural SP gain

[supple pollen]

begging for some gamemode that has trial units or something to equalise things

[undone coral]

yeah

or just a sim room that doesn't count for medals whatnot

[merry token]

Vanguard stonks

[pearl surge]

no natural sp gain, half sp gained from fs

no perfect dodge

half stamina gained

[winged mesa]

the people yearn for test dummies

[pearl surge]

mandatory 200% hp, 100% atk

if only the dummy in monhun can bring it to akef

[winged mesa]

mh dummy has stupid unrealistic mv

[supple pollen]

a speedrun tournament with forced cc esque risks was an idea too

no battle skill / no combo skill / no ultimate on specific umbral stage Y or something

[pearl surge]

no stagger

[worthy estuary]

unrealistic, when arknight has proven that they would +10000% hp enemies when given the chance

[pearl surge]

we give you the boost, now we give our boss the buff too, literally IS

[undone coral]

would be cool if small scale and ||acc sharing|| on an acc with all ops
otherwise it's just a question of which team u built

[pearl surge]

give amiya the IS boss into akef, let the despair comes to 3d

imagine fighting the boss, but mob is another boss too

[supple pollen]

just another case where there's no truly fair rules
if I went that avenue it'd be like 3 different choices
beat tidalklast with no ultimates
beat the frog stage with only 2 operators
beat some third stage without any movement commands
prize for each, players can pick which to try or try all 3

[undone coral]

ohhh interesting conditions

and time is just, compared equally across all 3?

[supple pollen]

each one is individual
fastest tidalklast time wins prize 1
fastest frog time wins prize 2
third one wins prize 3

[undone coral]

icic

[pearl surge]

UM 4 really bring 3 stages into kind of trauma

UM 2 about the 2 bull, UM 3 about the fire bull, not UM 4 is explosion, frog and ice bastard

UM 1 is what ... none huh

[winged mesa]

bit of an exaggeration but aight

[pearl surge]

at least the people behind UM now is consistent to make the content harder

[undone coral]

i have no sense of UM2,3,4 difficulty cus i solo'd all of them
i won't talk ab difficulty til i'm forced to run a team

[eternal cedar]

100k dmg LR finisher with the help from this server

[worthy estuary]

poison gas stage was difficult for most people

third stage could be hard for those who doesnt dodge

people are bad at the game on 1.0

[undone coral]

u sure ur buffs are up?
100k seems, low 🙃

who's the enemy?

[worthy estuary]

you solo's 4-3?

[undone coral]

tangtang

[eternal cedar]

uhm maybe i used xai and perl ult too early so the buffs ran out? I did the promotion stage 5

[undone coral]

oh promo stage, that's why
not a boss, lower multi

[slender spear]

you solo'd 3-1?

[winged mesa]

p5 yvonne rawpower

[undone coral]

oh that, sacrificial fluorite

[worthy estuary]

the hell is 3-1

[undone coral]

let's count it as solo
i just put her there to die

[eternal cedar]

shoukd i go for re crisis agony with my lvl 60 perl

[slender spear]

chains

[supple pollen]

chains + birds

[worthy estuary]

oh birds

[pearl surge]

the kidnpa

kidnapper

[undone coral]

perly, slave, level doesn't matter as long as she's on pulser

[supple pollen]

it's soloable with laev and fangyi but like why bother

[eternal cedar]

mkay

[undone coral]

laev can solo that? how

talent tank it? iframe?

can u even iframe that

[supple pollen]

both cases its talent procs

[undone coral]

oh

[slender spear]

laev survives it?

[supple pollen]

ive never verified it but someone else i forget who was trying to solo it and said both could

[merry token]

You should do the ember + lvl 1 unit strat

[slender spear]

wonder how much damage it deals

[undone coral]

um4-3?

[winged mesa]

you get your hp down to 40% first let it heal and simply 90% protect it

[undone coral]

just tang it

[merry token]

Tbf soloing the first half with ember does need a lot of investment

[slender spear]

how would you even do that if the chain is the first thing they do?

[undone coral]

yeah

[winged mesa]

think that thing does like 11k dmg or so

[slender spear]

you'd just immediately die

[winged mesa]

shrug i never actually seen the solo nor was i interested

[merry token]

But like nothing is stopping you from bringing more units then just having ember for the end

[winged mesa]

the self imposed challenge is

[winged mesa]

reckon its probably just facetank the first few hits until the chain

[slender spear]

is the chain kill physical or arts? if it's either of those, i suppose fluorite or antal could survive too

[undone coral]

if that's the definition of solo
then we got an entire legion of solo clears in #help

[winged mesa]

watch it be aether

[merry token]

Soloing the slimes either needs aoe damage or healing

[winged mesa]

anyone got the chinese name for um3-1

ill look in bili if anyone got

not even huiji wiki got shit

found it

@slender spear https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1esXsBoEc3/

[supple pollen]

影拓丰碑·浊流具现

[winged mesa]

ifstg if vx doesnt work still

[supple pollen]

for 3-x

[winged mesa]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1esXsBoEc3/

[supple pollen]

wait that's 4-x

[winged mesa]

ok u guys click on the link urself

[slender spear]

oh wow she does survive

[supple pollen]

my bad, you solved it anyway

[winged mesa]

all g i just know what agony is and i looked for agony

surprisingly it was the 2nd vid of "Laev solo agony"

[undone coral]

damn lae is badass
freed from chains -> killing spree

[winged mesa]

lae is very self sufficient its so funny

[undone coral]

-# also god DAMN that aoe what was i suffering with yvonne for

[winged mesa]

though this is 5+5 laev so theres a bit of, uh value from p5

+1s ult/kill

[undone coral]

💀

[winged mesa]

0+1 69s solo? goddamn

[undone coral]

[winged mesa]

oh its still backstab unfortunately

[undone coral]

guh

aint that the same tho

with lae

not like she can pre bs (can she?)

[winged mesa]

she can pre N3

[undone coral]

ic

three seconds saved

[winged mesa]

idk whats a good time but minos solo 63s

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1jsXPBTE2X/

ok im dipping cya

[polar chasm]

How many operators use Thermite Cutter? Is it worth using up this weapons crate I have stockpiled in my inventory to get it?
I use Zhuang Perlica Arclight Gilberta/Antal btw. Was mainly considering it for Arclight

[undone coral]

get back here @winged mesa
one last zhuang question

[undone coral]

basically the go-to pick for all vanguards

therm is more worth it than most other weapons in the crate

but we'd have to see the crate and the teams you play to know for sure

[supple pollen]

'bis' (not universally) for all vanguards, likely good for all future vanguards but sigs for new lim will prob win out

few weapons have better generic value

[polar chasm]

all my chars

[drifting narwhal]

It's always thermite 99% of the time

[ripe comet]

On fangyi perlica arclight Gilberta
What weapon do I give Gilberta and what gear do I give her as well

[drifting narwhal]

1% is you want valiant for lifeng

[undone coral]

obli: DPS perly (not recommended for perly+fangyi)
prince: ember stagger
thermite: all vanguards, usually
finery: snowshine
valiant: lifeng

objectively thermite has the widest application of all these

[drifting narwhal]

Check pins doc

[polar chasm]

All my alternatives for Arclight kinda look like ass if I check it now so guess Thermite Cutter it is

[worthy estuary]

fortmaker may be decent to spam more ult

[oak kernel]

Is there a reason you're not upping the potential on the yellow ones?

I merge the dupes right away 😭

[polar chasm]

cuz I'm f2p and might need them on other chars

[tidal ravine]

any shatter pros here? hows my build

[uneven oar]

wait people actually play shatter team ?

[undone coral]

spooked

[tidal ravine]

🫠

[undone coral]

i'm off to play shatter after i run out of cryos

looks good afaik

[tidal ravine]

its my f2p no pull account and kinda wanna try shatter since i aint getting lifeng any time soon

[undone coral]

ultmax alesh is, uh, but if ur fishfishing it should be ok

i used redeemer hands for better ult in my alesh ultmax oneshot

but this works, since uge

[tidal ravine]

wtf

[undone coral]

but yeah ultmax alesh is.. an option i suppose

u won't get the same results in shatter but it's better than nothing. u just gotta refresh to guarantee rare fin

[tidal ravine]

hmm, do i jsut do frontiers, redeemer seal

for more uge

[vague kernel]

laevatain team?

[undone coral]

that'd be the more common gear
2pc frontier uge (armor, gloves), one random frontiers kit, seal

[undone coral]

lae / wulf / akekuri / arde or gil
is a safe choice
-# idk anything beyond that for lae, just parroting lae mains

i think pins have their gear and info

[vague kernel]

also 1 question do u think arcane gonna come and this rerun banner is a trap?

[undone coral]

this rerun banner? it's a lifesaver for people who want, and are willing to pull 120 to guarantee, gilberta
trap or not is up to you, your pulls, and your financial circumstances

arcane, no idea

[vague kernel]

alright nice

[lament nest]

Mifu, Camille, and proxy I think..

[undone coral]

confirmed as future operators, but not banner order; also we dunno how many will release in 1.3

just gotta wait for announcement

[vague kernel]

proxy looks like zhuang ngl

[uneven oar]

arcane next banner trust 🙏

[lament nest]

Imma wait for Camille, rumor says he's a heat support

[vague kernel]

no bro please

let me save up some pulls

[uneven oar]

non

just 💳

[vague kernel]

i did not whale before in other gacha

but this game does seems to have quite the expensive of items

i mean in terms of price for the bundles and such

or ru supposed to stack 3 montly passes

[uneven oar]

you can't stack montlypass

yes you can buy up to 3 but you still get them once a day

[vague kernel]

WHAT NOOOOOOOO

so it just keep going like a subscription?

[uneven oar]

yea

[vague kernel]

X<

[uneven oar]

and it doesn't refund you or sent to mail if you miss a day

[vague kernel]

X<

so if i were to send in this game

[uneven oar]

it do be like that

[vague kernel]

its gonna be x1 montly pass and 1 protocol cust?

[uneven oar]

best value ? battlepass and monthly pass, assuming you login daily

[vague kernel]

battlepass?

[uneven oar]

protocol customized

[pearl surge]

bp is protocol

[vague kernel]

oh

[pearl surge]

i just buy that, protocol and monthly

[vague kernel]

u get berly from the cycling crate? (the one at the end of the bp)

[vague kernel]

i just did that today

cuz if i dont i cant get the sig for laev

[uneven oar]

both are great value because you get 10x pull for operators at like $5 and 10x pull for weapons for $10
where normally it could cost a lot more

[uneven oar]

yea, not a lot tho

[pearl surge]

be me, get laev weapon sig, for free, in 2 of my account

being loved too much by laev

[vague kernel]

how

[pearl surge]

eh, when first start, you got free weapon pull, i pull with that, got laev sig

[vague kernel]

so far i pulled 3 sig and i only get them at the pity

[pearl surge]

2 of 3 my account basically get that '-')

[vague kernel]

i was f2p until today bruh

[pearl surge]

i am basically, loved by laev, got laev in 20 pull, sig for free, in fest i pull for gilb, only to get 2 laev T-T)

[vague kernel]

W

[atomic totem]

What dps operator currently strongest with max pot in both the operator and signature? Fangyi?

[pearl surge]

in my other account, sig for free, and p1 laev because, i pull it in yvonne banner

got twice, in yvonne banner

now in my main account, got twice, in fest banner

yare yare

[mild oxide]

yeah prob fangyi, ult energy reduc is crazy good for her

[pearl surge]

i think its rossi tho

[uneven oar]

everyone is broken if p5p5

except maybe gilb

[pearl surge]

because rossi sig is good, but, her p5 basically added 30% crit damage, which also good

and ardel

ardel is not good

[vague kernel]

do u guys login everyday just to collect minerals from grow sites?

[worthy estuary]

not really... thats too much

[pearl surge]

no

[worthy estuary]

we gather what we needed

[pearl surge]

i might once per week

[uneven oar]

i login just to afk so my name always shows up on top of the friendlist so everyone will clue exchange with me

:)

[glass ruin]

hildo i wanna give u clues but it always says u dont need clues

[vague kernel]

💀

[vague kernel]

in my own life as the main character this guy out shines me

[atomic totem]

Prob it's either Rossi or Fangyi. Rossi is for speedrunning with millions of ult damage while Fangyi certainly won in extended fight because ult last sooo damn long.

[pearl surge]

i mean, basically, rossi p4 still works, so, she can still gain uge '-')

[atomic totem]

What is P4? Ult cooldown?

[pearl surge]

yeah

ult cost reduction

basically all p4 is that

fangyi is kinda hard to get the ult, but, rossi is not that hard '3')

[vague kernel]

rossi spams

[pearl surge]

also, rossi sig basically too OP

[uneven oar]

i hoard clues man, i always had 1 or 2 before exchanging clues, you can send me anything beside 7 or 2(or whichever is the TCGC one) and i'd be glad to accept it

[sage dome]

what if your pc explodes

[pearl surge]

i exchange my clues based on rest

[uneven oar]

i just buy new pc simple as

[sage dome]

in this economy?

[uneven oar]

😭😭😭😭😭

[atomic totem]

I'm actually planning on getting Rossi max pot but there's no way I will get signature dupe. My luck on Weapon banner is peak abysmal dogshit

[pearl surge]

if on reset 80 cost i got either weapon currency or pull currency, i think its my lucky days and exhange clue

[uneven oar]

you dont have to remind me

[glass ruin]

what specs does ur pc have hildo

[uneven oar]

i'm so glad i did et a 32gb of ram but it's DDR4

[sage dome]

my bad gang, im just really bored, everythings starts in an hour for europe…

[sage dome]

you’re still fine lmao

[glass ruin]

ddr4 is still kinda like prob the most bang for buck average

[uneven oar]

and old ass Ryzen 5 5600G
32gb of DDR4 ram
Asus TUF RX 6800 XT

[glass ruin]

oh 6800xt is nice

[sage dome]

oh wow

[uneven oar]

i am contemplating on getting a 5700x since i can't find a X3D for sale

[glass ruin]

but cpu oo

[uneven oar]

yea it was from my old PC, it was a mini PC

[glass ruin]

i wanted an x3d but didnt play games that justified it previously and now if i want to i think its just not available 💀

[uneven oar]

i havent even got into test area yet, i've been goofing around AIC since i barely done my 1.2 stuff

[sage dome]

definitely do not let it have a background task like fucking ENDFIELD while you sleep dawg 😭

[uneven oar]

i afk with Battlefield 6 turned on 🤔

[sage dome]

what is ur issue

[uneven oar]

uh, paying for battlepass

[undone coral]

whale better smh

[uneven oar]

and not having enough time to complete it without abusing afk farm

[sage dome]

fuck this is like Fortnite Creative Maps all over again

[uneven oar]

it's ok i dont use AIO cooler so my PC is fine

probably

[sage dome]

this is being optimistic

[uneven oar]

it still stays uder 70c on hotspot under load

[glass ruin]

wdym u dont have an aio cooler with the led screen to loop a gif of arcane

[uneven oar]

because aio is gay

[sage dome]

so i’m gay (i really am.)

[uneven oar]

we fan in this house

[glass ruin]

i love onlyfans

[uneven oar]

at this point i'm not surprised, almost all of my female friends are gay one way or another

[sage dome]

what are your favoritr…. onlyfans…,,,?,,,,,,,

[glass ruin]

noctua

[uneven oar]

expensive

[sage dome]

im an nzxt truther sorry

[uneven oar]

expensive for subpar performance

[sage dome]

we seek beautiful set ups

besides the cooling of my pc is pretty neat and silent

[vague kernel]

why

[uneven oar]

i can set my pc to silent but then i wouldn't get 30c idle

[glass ruin]

this is sad i cant find the brand of my fans

[vague kernel]

xD

[sage dome]

that’s a skill issue

[glass ruin]

i forgr it and i cba to take it apart

[uneven oar]

i used idcooling and thermalright because they are the only model i can find that looks half decent

[uneven oar]

😭

[glass ruin]

i got a lian li front mesh cooling is great

[sage dome]

but calling nzxt subpar 💔

[uneven oar]

[sage dome]

it’s overpriced but it’s alright in europe for their aio, cases and fans

[uneven oar]

too expensive for the performance they offer, arctic is better price wise

[sage dome]

the nzxt aio i have is singlehandedly the thing saving my build lol

good airflow too

[glass ruin]

oh i think my fans are cooler master hyper

[uneven oar]

what the fuck is an airflow 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
dies in matx case

[sage dome]

cooler master good

[pearl surge]

its been a long time i build my pc that i forgot my spec lol

[glass ruin]

oh u got that angular panel nzxt case

[uneven oar]

naw it's just an off brand shite case

[glass ruin]

awh they all hopped on the train

[flat panther]

1st player case?

[uneven oar]

i always wanted to build on fractal design ridge but itx is such an investment

[pearl surge]

imma being honest, case is the last i will think about building pc but the one i want the most

[glass ruin]

i feel like a good case can last u forever if u want to

[flat panther]

case aint expensive unless ure going for fancy ones ofc

[glass ruin]

i thought this was fancy

[pearl surge]

something like nzxt modular or something like that, i want that, but, i prefer my budget into the other thing lol

[uneven oar]

#pc-build

[blazing ocean]

does Gilberta P2 good to invest?
I already have P1 of her

[pearl surge]

isn't that case is old, i mean, really old

[pearl surge]

absolutely

[glass ruin]

yea her p2 p good

i last looked at cases like 5 years ago or something

[pearl surge]

12% art suscept is really good

same

[glass ruin]

cmon livestream come already i wanna see 1.3 banners

[pearl surge]

look at tangtang, we can't expect art suscept as good as ardel or gilb

[uneven oar]

that'd be at the end of may brother

[glass ruin]

[pearl surge]

imma being honest, if only phy have a really good damage dealer

[flat panther]

chen

[glass ruin]

i hope phys and heat teams get upgrades

[pearl surge]

all sub dps phy become so good

no, i mean, phy solo carry operator

[glass ruin]

i wonder when they'll make nature dps a thing

[flat panther]

prolly proxy is nature dps, i hope

[uneven oar]

LI ZHIYAN NATURE DPS TRUST

or nature support for suiprox

[glass ruin]

what does her gun element look like

[pearl surge]

like zf or laev, the solo carry type but for phy

[uneven oar]

then finally i can have a green team

[glass ruin]

it feels like it could be nature/ice

[uneven oar]

ew

[glass ruin]

or maybe super green electric

[pearl surge]

i am not whale enough to complete my team

[uneven oar]

get that ice thing away from me

[pearl surge]

so, i only focus on phy, fire, and elec

[uneven oar]

dont we have enough ice operator already

[pearl surge]

i will skip nature dps T-T)

[glass ruin]

i wanna get the guy and proxy prob

mifu im torn i like her character but not her drip

[undone coral]

stanza xai be nature team mainstay

you can't get away

[pearl surge]

yeah xai be nature with stanza

[uneven oar]

not chiv ?

[pearl surge]

but only ult proc

[undone coral]

intmax

[uneven oar]

[pearl surge]

you trigger cs, you fuck up

[undone coral]

to trigger corro, trust™

same xai cs -> gil ult type shit
except proxy consumes it

[pearl surge]

xai will solidfication '3')

[undone coral]

fr i'll play nature if proxy's nature

[pearl surge]

all your nature stack become solidification '3')

[flat panther]

me too

[undone coral]

u hush, you play everything 💀

[pearl surge]

proxy looks like nature tho

[flat panther]

well i mean, im fine if proxy on any element

[pearl surge]

color code green '3') definitely nature yep

[flat panther]

nuh uh, i didnt play phy

[pearl surge]

ah, i didn't try rossi art team even after i have gilb

[undone coral]

look inside
1:1 male to female ratio
checks out

[flat panther]

i only lock in playin OPs that i like

[undone coral]

called it

[flat panther]

naw, so far we only got female OPs from chartered

[pearl surge]

arcane for sure is cryo '3')

[flat panther]

on 1.3 theres only 1 male

[pearl surge]

if arcane is not cryo, it will be funny

[uneven oar]

WRONG

[flat panther]

also prolly i'll be only pulling proxy

not sure about mifu kit fn so we'll see

[pearl surge]

i will change my main if endmin past a.k.a tower defense master become a class thing

i mean, bs plant tower is amazing

[glass ruin]

tower defense in ake would be cool if we get to use the chars + turrets

[pearl surge]

in tutorial, endmin basically just summon tower, i want that into operator

[flat panther]

he/she forgor, memory lost

[pearl surge]

amnesia basically huge nerf

doctor and endmin is the same, got the nerf because amnesia

when too op character is forbidden

[orchid solstice]

God

I just built Zhuang. I hope I can skip at least one unit next patch.

Probably just rolling for supports now

[flat panther]

gil now

[fiery cosmos]

I'm hopeful too, simply bc, uh... Fangyi almost ran me to spark

at the very least I can save from now till 1.3, but also I have a feeling/fear 1.3 is gonna be the proxy and Mi Fu

[pearl surge]

rossi and gilb/fest basically, make me into guaranteed

[flat panther]

also zfy comp is pretty much perfect already

[pearl surge]

120 pull is hurt

[fiery cosmos]

and the sui is gonna be Nature DPS I think

[flat panther]

same thought

she could be nature dps, but i'll pull her regardless

[fiery cosmos]

given that they seem to be a combo of Shu/Dusk/Nian, it fits a lot tighter into Nature than anything else

[pearl surge]

wait nian?

[fiery cosmos]

plus, Nature needs something to make Nature as a team actually viable

[pearl surge]

shu/dusk i understand, nian?

[flat panther]

hope mifu come 1st on 1.3

[fiery cosmos]

There's some mentions in the lore about her creating some of the defenses iirc

Plus given the whole design and the Feranmut Heart

the Feranmut Hearts were Nian/Dusk/Shu's work as a trio, so it makes sense that she would draw from all three

but yeah I think Nature is a given

[glass ruin]

feels like proxy wont come so soon but this is purely feelscrafting

[pearl surge]

isn't proxy on 1.3

[fiery cosmos]

and if she's not DPS, then I don't think Nature is going to get a DPS

[worthy estuary]

she will come in 2 years

[glass ruin]

we have no confirmation until livestream

[pearl surge]

i thought 1.3 is the proxy ones

[fiery cosmos]

The "upcoming characters" thing had her on the leftmost position

[glass ruin]

that doesnt rly mean anything until we get livestream confirmation

[fiery cosmos]

so one would typically read that as "she's first, Mi Fu second, Vampire guy third"

[pearl surge]

yes this, i thought it was the proxy

if mi fu is rossi support, i fuck up

[fiery cosmos]

it's the best we have to work with short of a direct confirmation

Mi Fu is gonna be weird

[sly pine]

I just got laevatain
Is this her best team
Laev, wulgard, akekuri n ardelia?

[glass ruin]

for general purposes yes

[pearl surge]

most people will say yes

[glass ruin]

u can swap with antal/gil in situations

[fiery cosmos]

because I think Mi Fu is gonna be a Phys Striker running Crush

[pearl surge]

striker crush is a lot already

[sly pine]

What kind of situation?

[pearl surge]

da pan and endmin

[fiery cosmos]

aka she's gonna replace endmin

[flat panther]

well its kinda weird if mifu aint coming 1st on 1.3 banner

[glass ruin]

speedrunning/bossing st

[fiery cosmos]

yeah but da pan is 5*, mi fu is absolutely gonna be 6

[pearl surge]

but, if mi fu can do art infliction + vuln in 100 sp

that is what makes differences

[flat panther]

tho its already weird that zfy came 1st before mifu

[pearl surge]

i think akef will take the pattern of 3 2 1

[glass ruin]

like remember the silhouette stuff and ppl all thought yeah its definitely mifu and arcane in 1.2 and look what happened

[fiery cosmos]

Nah, Fangyi makes a bit more sense with how the plot tailors around her. Mi Fu is just Fangyi's dogsbody

[sly pine]

Who should i replace with antal/gil?

[pearl surge]

3 operator then 2 operator then 1 operator, rinse and repeat

[fiery cosmos]

It makes more sense to do Fangyi while we're still at Wuling City and then Mi Fu comes in when we go north into the Exclusion Zone

[uneven oar]

fuck u mean she's a better ember ?????

[pearl surge]

the bar already low enough

[fiery cosmos]

bc she gets dispatched to accompany/guide us

[uneven oar]

😭

[glass ruin]

u can do like laev ake antal arde, laev gil arde ake, laev wulf ake gil its kinda uh pick ur combi u can ask kreative for more laev stuff

[flat panther]

mifu gonna be either fire/phy from the looks of it

[undone coral]

guys i want more vibes, where can i find more vibes? preferably enough to make a vibeburger and wash it down with a vibeshake, please
#vibe-build

[flat panther]

proxy def nature

[fiery cosmos]

but yeah I think mi fu is gonna be phys and probably striker or main dps, probably not a supporty set

[pearl surge]

or, fire & phu

[trail socket]

Mifu cryo 😉

[fiery cosmos]

Depressingly likely

[sly pine]

I'm literally confused which laev best eams

[glass ruin]

theres no 1 best team it depends on situations

[flat panther]

depend on situation

[pearl surge]

i just hope mi fu into zf or laev, i mean, when she is ult, she use her gauntlet to ora ora enemy

so transformation ult type

[flat panther]

force combustion maybe

prolly the time mifu cames out its either fire amplify or phy amplify

or worse, tank

[pearl surge]

man, i love defender '3')

if defender worth enough

[sly pine]

Oh i see
Thanks everyone

[pearl surge]

imagine defender with sp return 70 sp '3')

[flat panther]

instead of healing, she recovers sp/ult for whole team

[pearl surge]

man, that will be awesome

if it can gain ult for the whole team

[flat panther]

there's gonna be support that recovers ult trust

[pearl surge]

uh ... gilb

[flat panther]

well except gil

[fiery cosmos]

tbh that could well be the Sui

[flat panther]

she's better off be the nature dps

[fiery cosmos]

but yeah honestly... I don't think Mi Fu is gonna be a support-type character

[flat panther]

since every element had one except nature atm

[fiery cosmos]

she strikes me as being main DPS or a nuker

[pearl surge]

i mean, sui is good, only because there is shu buff

[flat panther]

either amplifier or subdps

[fiery cosmos]

I doubt it

Amplify is the supporty realm I'm on about her not being

[flat panther]

oh wait theres already amplifier for fire

well either sub or maindps then

[pearl surge]

antal '3')

[fiery cosmos]

and phys sub-dps is a hellscape to be stuck on

[pearl surge]

phy sub dps is ... a lot

all of them is sub dps even

[fiery cosmos]

fair

[pearl surge]

lifeng, endmin, da pan, chen, rossi, all of them is sub dps '3')

[fiery cosmos]

which is why I think she'd be a striker

give Phys a dedicated top-end nuker

...probably replacing Endmin in the main teams

[flat panther]

im curious if they're gonna release fist-OPs

[pearl surge]

if its nuker, probably GM chen is already the role

[flat panther]

since she's using fist for god sake

[fiery cosmos]

Nah, nukers tend to be on BS not ult

Striker is The Nuker Role and so far basically all Strikers have been on BS

Chen's more regular DPS

she has a burst button but she has pretty high damage overall so it doesn't spike as much

[pearl surge]

70 attempt already failed on 4-5 for my exemplar

my soul is broken

[flat panther]

brah why u gamba on standard weapon

[pearl surge]

this is second time, its 70 attempt failed on 4-5

[junior pier]

endmind sp regen when

[pearl surge]

endmin has sp return 50

[junior pier]

[pearl surge]

seriously, if p3 endmin, on cs give vuln, i will grovel to HG

[junior pier]

endmind Fangyi??

[pearl surge]

rossi supposed to support endmin for phy, but, because of rossi cs itself, endmin become sucks for rossi

[undone coral]

LR: i don't exist
Da Pan: I don't exist

[pearl surge]

what an irony

well if nuker on BS, the only one is worth enough to be nuker is only TT

[fiery cosmos]

oh right LR is combo

[undone coral]

Yvonne: I half exist
Lae: I half exist
Fangyi: I half exist

cus they need ult enhance bs

[fiery cosmos]

Da Pan, I have genuinely never used
Yvonne, don't even have

Laev is BS and ult BS, Fangyi I've never used

[pearl surge]

da pan basically just there to trigger cs

he is bonk master

[undone coral]

love how we're ignoring half of character kits

i suggest benching xai's battleskill and ult

[pearl surge]

i don't acknowledge p5 da pan because i don't have

[thick pawn]

Guys, how many teams do you all have?

[pearl surge]

5

[flat panther]

Yeap i wont p5 weapon ever again

[uneven oar]

i can probably make 7 teams all thing considered

[undone coral]

enough
aka, two

a bunch if you mix and match and count all the variants...

[pearl surge]

laev team, pure phy team, rossi art team, rossi phy team, zf team, 5

[thick pawn]

I have two as well, not sure if it's worth going for a third or saving my pulls to enhance my two teams

[humble drift]

2nd one

[fiery cosmos]

I have... One properly functional team at UM agony level

[thick pawn]

I have pure phys and Fangyi, but I also have rossi that I got randomly, so debating going for gilberta or not, even if I don't care about laev and already have pog p2

[fiery cosmos]

and then Cryo/Shock/Heat are nominally existent

[pearl surge]

UM team, laev is enough '3')

[flat panther]

I…have 2

[pearl surge]

laev i think is kinda perfect for UM lol

[fiery cosmos]

but they're also only lv80 4s9 and thus aren't capable of proper clears of anything

[pearl surge]

she is aoe, she trigger ebs a lot, can gather ult easily

[undone coral]

solo is enough
saves u moneh anw

[pearl surge]

i am not that masochist

[undone coral]

yes u are

gaslight

[pearl surge]

sorry s1n, not everyone as maso as you

just accept the reality s1n

[junior pier]

supposedly endmind could change class in future, its reasonable to not overtune him in some way, maybe rossie will work with other class of endmind

[pearl surge]

btw, genuine question, is m3 cs gilb, worth it?

[undone coral]

if u wanna m3 perly cs too

sync em

actually whose team is this

[pearl surge]

nah, the problem is, perli use qingbo

[undone coral]

oh

[fiery cosmos]

tbh idk, everyone says gilb is BiS everywhere and then I look at the teambuilding sheet and it says "not really lmao"

[pearl surge]

ah, i use basically general team

not specific team, so, qingbo full AI

[undone coral]

what, clown's doc?
he says she's still best

[junior pier]

if u r rich, gilb practically BiS

[undone coral]

when he's saying "she's awkward" he's referring to how gil's an invasive buffer

i.e. the nature stack

[junior pier]

a p5p5 striker likely want some speedrun with gilb anyway

[pearl surge]

if only when she ult she didn't give nature stack

[void prairie]

is this rossis ideal team?

[pearl surge]

well then there is no corro maxing huh

[undone coral]

i need my corro

[fiery cosmos]

Clown's doc, yeah. On basically every team she's listed as an alternative for "if you can turbo-burst this, then she's better"

[junior pier]

[pearl surge]

some people say yes