team-build

[cold cargo]

Bench ardel for perli

[naive schooner]

isnt she electric

[cold cargo]

Yes

[naive schooner]

and xaihi has amp for ardelia

[cold cargo]

And ardelia is nature

[naive schooner]

idk how team here works

[cold cargo]

Yet youre still using her

[naive schooner]

i remember xaihi has nat amp somewhere

[cold cargo]

Perlica gives sp free dmg taken + atk buff when equipped with stanza

[cold cargo]

Does it matter if ardelia is doing 1000 more dmg

Shes not there for dmg anyway

Her bs gives susc

But, it being locked behind her bs means you have to use sp to get it

And lr is already desperate for sp

[hasty dirge]

This is all I have on hand right now. Do you have any thoughts on the build?

[naive schooner]

do i spam last rite skill, idk why her ult is building up slower compred to others

[cold cargo]

Perlica being able to apply her debuff sp free is why yiu want her

[cold cargo]

If you read her ult youll see that she cannot gain ult energy from any other source

So you can only charge it with lr bs/cs

[hasty dirge]

Endministrator build, any opinions? I haven't seen the 1.2 update so I don't know if the hardware has changed.

[naive schooner]

this is saddening

[cold cargo]

General rotation is getting 4x cryo > apply all your buffs debuffs > lr cs > lr ult (if you have it)

Rinse and repeat

[hasty dirge]

.

[hasty dirge]

.

[hasty dirge]

.

[autumn wasp]

They're too versatile to compare IMO. I've tried lots of different gears and setups and they perform about the same, so basically just pick what you think is more fun. Swordmancer stuns faster, Bonekrusha will give you bigger numbers. I personally go with Bonekrusha since I've found in some situations I'm stunning before I have my 4 vuln stacks up.

[chrome beacon]

This is fine. You could switch the Gloves gear piece with one from the Aethertech gear set that has the Arts Intensity stat on it, if you want to improve the build.
For Lifeng and the others I'll show the build in just a second

[autumn wasp]

Though I guess it's worth mentioning my Lifeng is P1 which kinda changes things/makes it easier.

My Lifeng runs full UGE gear so he can spam ult.

[hasty dirge]

My Chen

[chrome beacon]

just smoother rotations and a little bit more damage

[hasty dirge]

My Lifeng.

My pogranichnik

My Lifeng and my pogranichnik are p3 lol

[autumn wasp]

[mortal coral]

Chen equips the new swordmancer heavy armor T1 cause she doesn't have as much use for arts intensity. Getting her ult damage up is good with something like redeemer gloves as well.

[chrome beacon]

This build is fine. Could switch the Armour and Gloves for ones that are slightly better if you'd like

[hasty dirge]

I previously used this Aethertech item set, so I have the entire upgraded set.

[chrome beacon]

This build is also kind of okay, but most people will just use something like this on him unless they pull for Mountain Bearer, his signature weapon

If you pull for Mountain Bearer, he can start doing some pretty good damage, given you have his P3

[mortal coral]

Pulling for standard weapons in this weapon economy

[naive schooner]

do i want oblivion for erlica or xaihi , the other will get monaihe

[raven badger]

Basically, Arde is for comfort, you can still beat everything, but its mostly for just exploring and stuff. Perlica is for maximum damage output and efficiency

[hasty dirge]

I'm looking for Lifeng's signature weapon, so I wanted something that already works with his signature weapon.

[naive schooner]

pls enable ping replies for me ._.

[raven badger]

Habit sry

[raven badger]

Oblivion for perlica

[autumn wasp]

Mistakes were made.

[chrome beacon]

For Pogranichnik it's really recommended to either to go for Arts Intensity, either fully or with a little Ultimate Gain Efficiency like in this build example:

[chrome beacon]

aware

[hasty dirge]

I understand. I haven't seen anything about the new update and haven't done any comparisons yet, I'll test it.

[cold cargo]

No
Xaihi want deto/chiv
Perlixa wants stanza

[acoustic edge]

Detonation unit and chivalric virtues are best for xaihi but if you don't have either starry is good

[chrome beacon]

Pulled 80 time Khravengger to play LR for 1 and a half weeks total then never again

[acoustic edge]

Starry is surprisingly pretty good for xaihi but still pales in comparison to chiv and deto

[hasty dirge]

I understand, so I'll change my Lifeng's build, Pogranichnik, and swap Chen's gloves and armor, is that correct?

[chrome beacon]

Depends on the exact situation. If you're using Xaihi for a Nature DPS then maybe Starry would be better than even Chivalric Virtues

[naive schooner]

i have like 0 arts weapon

[acoustic edge]

You'll get more weapons as you play the game

[autumn wasp]

Considering I do have Mountain Bearer, what should I put on Lifeng if I decide I want damages?

[chrome beacon]

Yes. You should swap Chen's gear to these two

[acoustic edge]

There's 2 free 6 star weapon selectors you get just from progressing i think

[hasty dirge]

I'll grab a screenshot of my old Endmin build here.

[naive schooner]

ive used ice team as my first teams in like 4 gacha games alr 😭

[raven badger]

Ice teams good

[acoustic edge]

Khrav is a good stat stick surely itll be decent for a future limited greatsword unit

[chrome beacon]

surely cluegi

[acoustic edge]

Atk second line and universal first part of third line skill dmg percent

[hasty dirge]

I used to use the complete items in Endmin.

I have the whole set uploaded.

[frosty creek]

is this true or just some dumb build?

[chrome beacon]

Yep that's better

[acoustic edge]

Lr tt xai perli is very much a real comp

[chrome beacon]

What, using Perlica? Of course it's true. Perlica is the goat.

[mortal coral]

Realistically we'll get the standard weapons in like 2 years when standards reach P5 and we start getting the premium endpoint quota

[acoustic edge]

This sentence confuses me

[mortal coral]

(and then it's gonna be spent on more copies of thermite cutter)

[raven badger]

Aren‘t them wasn‘t

[naive schooner]

thats literally what im testing rn 😭😭

[mortal coral]

When you get extra tokens of 6* characters when they're already P5, you get 10 endpoint quota, you need 20 to buy from this store.

[hasty dirge]

I'm trying to finish putting together my American football team and, at the same time, I want to put together an ice hockey team.

[acoustic edge]

I understand but the first part of your previous sentence is still quite puzzling to me

[mortal coral]

Oh the word "get" got swallowed, mb

[hasty dirge]

My ice team is fully equipped in terms of skills, all that's missing is equipment.

[acoustic edge]

Ic

[raven badger]

I ate it sorry

[hasty dirge]

I never used ice time, I always went physical.

[naive schooner]

yvonne.... where are you... come to my embrace..

[chrome beacon]

lord have mercy

so much subtle eroticism in this game it's ac crazy

ahem... anyway

[raven badger]

Yvonne can stay in her lab

[naive schooner]

only behind zzz in this race

[raven badger]

Would it be a gacha game without it?

[mortal coral]

ZZZ and subtle

[naive schooner]

yes yrust me bro

zzz is subtle, its light

[acoustic edge]

I feel flashbanged whenever my friend streams zzz

[raven badger]

I think we have different definitions of subtle

[acoustic edge]

So much... Motion

[naive schooner]

salads and soda cans got it too

[raven badger]

Both?! At the same time?!

[chrome beacon]

Reverse 1999 has like close to none of that in the grand majority of its designs for example

[hasty oriole]

it's part of ZZZ style everything is bouncy

[raven badger]

Ooh very nice

[naive schooner]

live 2d art is MADE IN HEAVEN

[chrome beacon]

"Subtle" and ZZZ... I mean it's kinda just in your face atp

and amen for that might I add

[naive schooner]

i dont reget pulling my zzz flashbangs that i dont want to play in public

[naive schooner]

also limbus company🤑🤑

[chrome beacon]

[hasty dirge]

Guys, what's Xaihi's signature?

[raven badger]

Chivalric Virtues

[chrome beacon]

She doesn't have one. She usually uses either Chivalric Virtues, or Detonation Unit

[acoustic edge]

The xaihi yearns for explosive devices

[raven badger]

Chiv is her sig, just not always the best to use

[naive schooner]

do i need p5 perlica in last rite team

[chrome beacon]

hmm I wonder if it'll be Starry Beach or Stanza for Xaihi in Nature teams

[naive schooner]

i only have per p3

[hasty dirge]

Which of the two is better for freezing weather conditions below? I have both P5 weapons.

[winged mesa]

xaihi signature is freedom, her BiS is either chivalric or deto unit

[chrome beacon]

It doesn't really fit her though

[chrome beacon]

Detonation Unit if you proc it, otherwise Chivalric Virtues

[raven badger]

Really? Maybe im thinking of a different one then, bc im pretty sure it does

[autumn wasp]

I thought her sig was Chivalric.

[chrome beacon]

medieval type look to it

[winged mesa]

most of sig weapons for lower rarity will be 5*

[autumn wasp]

I mean...

[winged mesa]

Sig =/= BiS

[chrome beacon]

this kinda looks more like it but idk

[autumn wasp]

I guess...

[hasty dirge]

I didn't understand

[naive schooner]

DID SOMEONE SAY FREEDOM🦅🦅

[raven badger]

I was thinking of freedom mb guys

[chrome beacon]

Detonation Unit has an effect that is a bit more difficult to have happen. If you don't play around making Detonation Unit's effect work, then Chivalric Virtues is better, because Chivalric Virtues' effect works without issue

[hasty dirge]

Sorry everyone, I don't speak English, so I'm using Google Translate.

[chrome beacon]

Btw, proc = triggering an effect

[hasty dirge]

now I understand, thank you

[autumn wasp]

Well I guess looking at the pattern, it's wonky. Initially, it does seem like 5-star characters might have 6-star sigs if you consider Xaihi and Wulfgard (maybe Avy if you stretch it), but then there's extreme exceptions like Arclight and Alesh.

[hasty dirge]

One character who has already died, poor thing, was Laevatain. Or is she still okay?

[worthy estuary]

Lae is currently one of the two meta units

[acoustic edge]

They might b talking abt story

[worthy estuary]

Well the game is easy enough that any team works really. We will reconsider meta once CC drops

[winged mesa]

Xaihi - FTP
Wulfgard - Rational Farewell
Avy (its on her splash art) - Cohesive Traction
Arclight - Twelve Questions
Alesh - Finchaser 3.0

[acoustic edge]

Laevatain is a reconvener of surtr laevatain herself is very much alive

[worthy estuary]

Story

Lae is a reconvener, so technically she is still alive

[chrome beacon]

She is still very much okay

[autumn wasp]

D-DON'T FORGET CHEN!

[worthy estuary]

The original surtr is part of protocol space

[winged mesa]

your original message has 0 mention of chen

[autumn wasp]

I thought you were making a list of all 5-stars and their sigs.

[supple pollen]

clannibal erasure as always

[autumn wasp]

Clannibal is 6-star tho.

[cosmic plume]

Wdym?

[autumn wasp]

We were talking about 5-star weapon sigs.

[cosmic plume]

It's not his sig

[autumn wasp]

It sure looks BADASS on him tho.

Might as well be. 😭

[raven badger]

[cosmic plume]

Does look like it was meant to fit him.

[winged mesa]

man himself honestly has no sig

[autumn wasp]

lol

[oak kernel]

Should I drop ardelia for lifeng? he's my first 6 star with a dupe

[supple pollen]

sig per char has no pattern so like it is what it is

[autumn wasp]

Depends on team.

[autumn wasp]

Oh hell naw, get Lifeng in there RIGHT MEOW!

[oak kernel]

okay ty XD

[winged mesa]

ardelia is fine as is, lifeng is preferable yes

[rare kettle]

Ofc lol
Thats a premium phys team

[oak kernel]

So I don't need the healing?

[cosmic plume]

If we're using this then lifeng's signature is the 4 star spear

[winged mesa]

if youre good enough yes

[cosmic plume]

Which we all know it isn't

[winged mesa]

it probably is

[cosmic plume]

Rlly?

[winged mesa]

signature does not always mean bis

[oak kernel]

yeah that's the thing I don't think I am yet 😭 besides he only has a purple wep for now so maybe I'll wait

[raven badger]

Can you dodge?

[oak kernel]

Sometimes yes, sometimes no 😭

[cosmic plume]

Real

[oak kernel]

is there any death penalty in this game?

[winged mesa]

then ardelia is fine as is

[autumn wasp]

Yes. The penalty is you have to start over. 😂

[raven badger]

Well, the death penalty is you die

[oak kernel]

Die ingame die IRL

[acoustic edge]

There's no penalty that ensues from dying other than failing and having to restart certain things

[rare kettle]

"People die when they are killed" ahh

[oak kernel]

I see I see

[raven badger]

That checks out

[rare kettle]

Ofc it does
I never speak a lie, my words are truth

[oak kernel]

I'll keep ardelia but not level her any further and hopefully I get a good wep for lifeng in the mean time

[paper sinew]

P

[autumn wasp]

Sir this is a Wendy's.

[rare kettle]

Wrong game nephew
Get banned

[raven badger]

Umm

[paper sinew]

💩

[winged mesa]

Wow! so cool!
that what you expect to hear?

[rare kettle]

Please dont post selfies, they are dangerous

[paper sinew]

Yes sir

[raven badger]

[paper sinew]

Sorry iam wrong...

[supple pollen]

and people continue to fall for ragebait lol

[raven badger]

People just be calling anything ragebait these days

I see civil conversation

Except for that one guy

[steel stag]

What’s a premium last rite team?

[supple pollen]

tt xaihi flex

[acoustic edge]

Tt xai gilb

[steel stag]

Who’s flex

[raven badger]

P5 LR, P5 TT, P5 Gilb, P5 Xaihi

[supple pollen]

half the roster

[raven badger]

Very premium

[steel stag]

Damn only missing gilberta

Everywhere I go I see her face

[raven badger]

You don‘t need her

Don‘t fomo

[oak kernel]

What do you guys do with the rest of the purple weapons after you've maxed out one of each? just use them for upgrades or make several copies?

[steel stag]

Most likely just keep them until you need a spare or have a use for them

[raven badger]

I make a couple full potential ones and lock them, then either use or leave the rest

[acoustic edge]

Purple weaps are pretty useless

[oak kernel]

[raven badger]

I just use them as placeholders

[oak kernel]

Does medicant work for ardelia even though it's the passive that procs off of the ability?

[acoustic edge]

Someone was testing this on games main release

I forget what the conclusion was

[oak kernel]

haha ty though

I'll try googling it

fk it the wep will give more will regardless not like I use her for anything other than debuffs and healing

'

Then again IDK 😭

I guess the 6 star wep actually sucks for my phys team

[supple pollen]

ardelia heals off talent only so she cannot proc weapons like chiv or freedom

[acoustic edge]

Not being able to proc chiv is kinda crazy

[chrome beacon]

It's her Talent providing the healing, it doesn't proc the effect on this weapon. "Medicant" being the skill type doesn't have anything to do with it

[oak kernel]

😭

Would it at least work for xaihi then?

Although it doesn't say exactly how much her ability heals it does say that it heals somewhat

[chrome beacon]

Yeah

[chrome beacon]

You can see the details of that if you scroll down

Here from the wiki

[oak kernel]

Another question ability wise what's the combo here? I've been doing 1 stack breach into 2-4 stack crush on bosses or harder mobs and just crushing when running around dealing with regular mobs

[quasi cape]

how many teams does Rossi actually have?

[autumn wasp]

Put Lifeng on.

[wet moat]

4 stack breach, 3/4 stack crush

[autumn wasp]

Quite a lot. Like more than 5.

[wet moat]

for ow mob, u just 2 vuln crush endmin

[civic mason]

uh roughly 4 subtype ?

[quasi cape]

no i mean

i see a lot of vids with a funny amount of teams

[civic mason]

i stop counting after 20

[quasi cape]

like 300+
so i was actually trying to find the real number 😂

[autumn wasp]

Rossi with Perlica and Gilberta gives you a lot of options already. I'd say half the teams are just off of that, then Xaihi+Tangtang variations.

[wet moat]

its basically arts rossie

[oak kernel]

okay ty!

IDK if I am able to regen enough SP in time to do all of that though

[wet moat]

u kinda don't with ardel

[oak kernel]

So the answer is use lifeng and git gud? 😭

[autumn wasp]

Lifeng is a lot less annoying to use than Ardelia.

[wet moat]

yes get gitgud basically

[winged phoenix]

for fangyi, i go what team?, do i use 4th slot alesh, ardelia gilberta?

[ember thicket]

Does arts intensity Ardelia works or doesn't since she likes to consume corro

[acoustic edge]

Doesn't rly work

[winged mesa]

whichever team is most comfortable to you but the base ground of the team is most of the time Fangyi Perlica Flex Flex
flex options being

• arclight/akekuri/alesh: sp recovery with thermite enabler and their personal buffs
• gilberta: good susceptibility debuff
• antal: general comfort de/buffer + 1 elec stack on cs
• ardelia: same sp usage as antal with her own debuffs and whatnot

some rather not so popular options

• avywenna: works as subdps, also can provide Elec Susc and Infliction
• tangtang: universal arts debuffer but pretty invasive since she has 1 cryo stack on bs/ult
• Rossi: usual stuff where shes splashable for wheelchair comps

[acoustic edge]

Mostly cause of her corrosion duration

Corrosion has a ramp up time which ardelia can't reach

[winged mesa]

it can work but most of the time you would be consuming it anyways

[winged mesa]

p5 can reach and there might just be a way to get corro ramp but you will be consuming corrosion for susc anyways

[ember thicket]

figured as much, so can this set works so she can spam corro?

[oak kernel]

ardelia hasn't been all that annoying to use though her ult has been great for healing me up when I mess up

[winged mesa]

if youre p5 then you might be able to

[acoustic edge]

P5 ard gets like 1 full second of max potency corrosion yes

[winged phoenix]

i saw a guide and they were using arclight and alesh, i have all options and would want to opt for just easy rotations and good damage overall

[wet moat]

p5 maybe

[ember thicket]

ohh I see I guess I want p5 ardelia now

[winged mesa]

this might is very borderline

you need a timestop of like 2s to get cs back before corro runs out

[acoustic edge]

The rotations would be a logistical nightmare to align the susc with corrosion

[winged mesa]

not possible for that i think

[acoustic edge]

Susc lasts 30 with p5 ard cs cd is 15

And corro takes 10s to ramp iic

[autumn wasp]

The healing items are often enough.

[winged mesa]

where is 30s susc from

thats 11s corrosion + 15s cd (12.75 with qingbo)

[acoustic edge]

Battle skill

[oak kernel]

very fair but in these kinds of games I suck at using potions and stuff I always end up with hundreds of potions I never use just collect them 😭

[winged mesa]

p5 doesnt give 30s

[winged mesa]

the bs by itself gives 30s 🗿

[acoustic edge]

Its just base yes

🤔

[winged mesa]

it can lineup but you wont be able to sustain it

[acoustic edge]

I do not recall staying its p5 that gives it

[ember thicket]

so it is possible to allign suscept and corrosion with p5 ardelia the rotation would just be really sweaty? damn

[ember thicket]

cuz you have to make sure there are no inflictions

[winged mesa]

its possible but i would rather kill myself first than doing it

[autumn wasp]

The potions use themselves!

[winged mesa]

its basically impossible to sustain because you need to consume corrosion

[ember thicket]

I guess its better to have gil for susc + corrosion ?

[acoustic edge]

I should've put a comma "Susc lasts 30" and "with p5 ard cs cd is 15" are supposed to be separate clauses

That i didn't separate

[acoustic edge]

Can't you just bs once every 2 cs

[oak kernel]

I knowwwww but stillllllllll

[winged mesa]

your full potency corrosion is gone now gg

[autumn wasp]

Lifeng gameplay to motivate you:

[oak kernel]

It's like the food in genshin I never even used the booster food and always kept them around just in case 😭

[winged mesa]

gil is a burst susc + corrosion that needs a workaround to get full potency
meanwhile ardelia is sustained susc for 30s and also dreams give arts dmg taken so shes not even all that bad

[autumn wasp]

Look at that, quick and easy 4 vuln stacks. Can't do THAT with Ardelia.

[acoustic edge]

Not like you can maintain corrosion fully with ard alone even at p5, corrosion lasts 11 secs with p5, cs cd m3 p5 is 15 secs by default even with qinbo its not 11

You would need gilb or fluo to proc corro in between

[ember thicket]

so its really hard huh and not worth the time

[winged mesa]

which is why i say i would just kms first before sustaining a corrosion ardel

[acoustic edge]

We have talked abt this earlier and im pretty sure one of us is completely wrong

[oak kernel]

That looks great, but dodging like that maybe in a year or two 😭

[winged mesa]

in short, yes AI is worthless

[acoustic edge]

There's no way cs timestop effects these durations

[autumn wasp]

Keep practicing. You can dodge like that in other bosses too!

[winged mesa]

the cs timestop is what allows gil to stack vuln by herself is it not

[wet moat]

go practice on marble without food or gear

[acoustic edge]

@devout maple does cs timestop effect things like ult duration and reaction duration?

[winged mesa]

laev bs timestop is different and i forgot to do it

it would be funny if it only affects infliction and not reaction

[oak kernel]

Marble ribals

[acoustic edge]

Wasn't vuln 20s duration

And m3 gilb cs is 19s cd

[winged mesa]

without m3 you can stack vuln bcs of this timestop

[vague kernel]

whats a good yvonne team?

[acoustic edge]

Im gonna try to inquire lin about these timestop details

He's the most knowledgeable one i know on this

[cold cargo]

#1495318310584324218 message

[acoustic edge]

🤔

[winged mesa]

looks like a timestop to me

[ember thicket]

anyway I guess thanks to you two!!!

[winged mesa]

i forgot 1.0 didnt haev ult duration

[cold cargo]

My dumbass was looking at antal bs

[winged mesa]

🗿

[acoustic edge]

Yeah but that time slowdown applying to some things and not for others is such a weird thing to take for granted

[winged mesa]

like wut

pretty sure the only thing it doesnt apply is cooldowns

[vague kernel]

thanks house

[cold cargo]

Yw washing machine

[vague kernel]

wait

so the top one is the best?

[vague kernel]

which one

[devout maple]

as in how long it ticks for?

[acoustic edge]

Does ult timestop also not affect cs cd?

[devout maple]

it does pause it, since most of them are treated as buffs - you can take yvonne for example and even see the ult buff below her health bar pause

[winged mesa]

ult has no timestop?

[cold cargo]

That is the most premium one she has rn, so probably

[winged mesa]

one thing about it i havent confirmed is laev bs stops her ult dura or no

[devout maple]

same with lae or fangyi, if you use other character ults during her own ult you aren't losing out on time during it

[acoustic edge]

I think im kinda lost in the concept as a whole but rena was saying the reason laev can get 7ebs ult and the reason gilb can vuln stack by herself is due to timestop

[winged mesa]

i mean, lin apparently got a whole vid on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmBeUGtPhBI

[devout maple]

her BS does stop her own ult duration, but there was a bug where if you chained it after a CS or used it before a CS it wouldn't apply the second pause

I think this was fixed back in february as they had something in patch notes

[winged mesa]

is that bug fixed
oh

i think that one is special to laev, i dont rmb fangyi has it, correct?

[devout maple]

this is correct

[acoustic edge]

So during timestop everything else stops but cs cd continues ticking?

[devout maple]

gilb can self sustain vuln because her combo skill keeps ticking, but the vuln stack pauses

CS and the in-game timer

[winged mesa]

cs and timer ye

[devout maple]

keep in mind that not all timestops are made equal, arclight and alesh's combo skills will timestop even a combo skill (but apparently not timer)

[acoustic edge]

Does the same apply for ult cutscene thingies

[devout maple]

timer is the one thing that ticks regardless of what you do, there is nothing that I know which pauses it

[supple pollen]

the entire game is vibecoded and every rule has several exceptions

[devout maple]

ult custcene does not pause timer, nor does it pause CS

[supple pollen]

its pretty miserable to try figure out

[devout maple]

I even show it on the video with ult timestop allowing arclight to get combo skills effectively back to back after her BS

[acoustic edge]

I assumed everything would stop during time stop

[devout maple]

video legit explains almost everything timestop wise, so self shill aside, if you haven't watched it that'll cover it with visual examples

[supple pollen]

a lot of phrases are matter of convenience not literal

1.0 'vulnerability' moment

[winged mesa]

lowkey idk where i got it but i just know 7ebs is because laev bs stops laev ult dura
cs cd is mostly not stopped by timestops, but most buffs will be stopped

[acoustic edge]

Anyhow thanks lin

That would also explain why when i was testing rite rots i was able to cs/ult when it shouldn't have been possible due to cd

[subtle trail]

zhuang fangyi, prefer use Alesh/Gilberta for flex slot

[livid mirage]

How much will do I want on zhuang?

Currently shy or 700

[raven badger]

Using the set you have, the max will is 862

If you want the most possible

[chrome beacon]

as much as you can get

[raven badger]

If you can‘t be bothered, you can just keep what you have

[lament nest]

Yes, I've been doing double CS Last Rite with that 😁

[peak dagger]

what gear should I get on my Fangyi team (antal team) built already for her but not for others in the team

[livid mirage]

I am thinking of replacing slab with auxiliary for ult gain

And antal with alesh for sp friendly rotations

Cos her ult speed and sp issues are real

[cosmic python]

Been rocking Rossi/TT/Perlica/Akekuri pretty much since I started the game at the start of april, and I've been eyeballing the Gilberta rerun that's happening tomorrow... How "necessary" do you think Gilberta will be for content rn? I've trimmed all time trials etc with the that team so idk, feeling like pulling for her seems silly, but she seems like an absolute beast of an addition to make everything easier in the future

[peak dagger]

shes the best all around amp. but better wait for 1.3 annoucement before any pulling

[cosmic python]

yeah my gripe with that specific banner is how... bad it feels

[livid mirage]

She is not must pull by any means
Outside of certain teams that is

For Rossi team she is big

She is must have for Rossi yvonne and avywenna

Rest can live without her

[peak dagger]

true

[cosmic python]

nod nod

I was kinda hoping to skip the banner because the 120 pity will absolutely suck me dry

[livid mirage]

We can’t call anyone who has a 50 50 chance of being needed a must pull

[peak dagger]

technically supports are must pulls unless devs decide to pump em out faster than dps

[cosmic python]

maindps energy is easier to sell tho

[livid mirage]

It’s not that bad
20 pulls free
10 refund
So it’s 90
It’s actually quite nice if you aren’t really lucky

[cosmic python]

I assure you, I am not really lucky

[livid mirage]

Like I said
We’ll have a new support by the time you have a need to replace your team
So if your teams don’t need Gilberta
You can safely skip her

Zhuang fangyi and lavacake will probably both get a dedicated support that’ll bring them back to meta when they drop down

[peak dagger]

pretty much yeah. so far the devs arent bringing out anything too pay2win

[livid mirage]

Especially zhuang fangyi

Devs wants you to get her with that 34 day banner

[cosmic python]

and I am skipping her happily

[peak dagger]

if a character gets a whole patch for themselves that means most likely they will take forever to be replaced

[cosmic python]

But yeah, they're defintely making sure if you want her, you'll get her, f2p or not

[livid mirage]

I’d say her banner is worth it
She is like pushed in our faces, devs won’t mistreat her

[cosmic python]

fair enough, and I'll have a slot free for the next support regardless on the team with gil innit

[peak dagger]

combine it with the fact her team is the most f2p and early game friendly

[livid mirage]

Gil is niche, she fits Rossi and no one can replace her there

Actually no

It’s easy to replace her there

[cosmic python]

yeah I've been using TT for the arts susp plus damage, and she's been.. well.. fine? but obviously gil will skyrocket rossi's ult to the stratosphere

[livid mirage]

Gacha devs usually drop a f2p gift unit sometime after launch, she is one of those
These units

[livid mirage]

But she is easy to replace
Rossi tt endmin universal buffer is the way

Gilberta is not universal buffer

[peak dagger]

it really feels like gilberta getting a rerun this early means shes getting replaced soon

[mortal coral]

Yeah but it's just nice to get a free vulnerable in the combo

[livid mirage]

Problem is she doesn’t buff physical
So when you do use it and crush, it’s unbuffed

[peak dagger]

anyways imma ask again what gears do i give to my units outside of fangyi in antal team

[livid mirage]

Clown sheet has a guide

I need to replace antal with alesh

I need sp

[livid mirage]

You might also want to save your pulls for mi fu kit reveal, we have a feeling she might slot into your team

[peak dagger]

i got lucky and have 3p weapon so i dont need the sp that hard

[cyan ferry]

Absolute 🐐 team

[livid mirage]

……share luck

[livid mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-get-out-thesunkenplace-gif-18483817

[mortal coral]

So you just kick out the physical

[livid mirage]

Bro got almost every status in the game, only lightning missing

[livid mirage]

Then why vulnerability

[mortal coral]

Gilberta ult is stronger on 4 vulnerable stacks

[livid mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

We replacing Gilberta

Unless mi fu wants dem vulnerability

[mortal coral]

One day yeah, most if not every 1.x unit gonna get shafted

[livid mirage]

Zhuang is the favourite child, she will survive

[river laurel]

Gilberta should hold better than Yvonne and Leav

[mortal coral]

Supports always hold better

Universal rule

[livid mirage]

Yvonne had low value on release gang, cake was all she had

[river laurel]

shorekeeper
Yes

[obsidian verge]

They used to say that for yinlin while bashing jiyan almost 2 years ago

[livid mirage]

Universal buffers*
Niche buffers and buffers from 1.0 usually get replaced the second 2.0 drops

[mortal coral]

Well of course there are exceptions to the rule but it's still a rule

[livid mirage]

Gilberta is not a universal buffer

[river laurel]

Gilberta is only great with quick nukes

Her 5 seconds art susceptibility is quite short

[livid mirage]

Shorekeeper Sunday robin etc etc were universal buffers

[obsidian verge]

Who really is universal buffer?
Ardelia?

[livid mirage]

Yea but she sucks

[obsidian verge]

True

[mortal coral]

Idk she seems pretty universal, drop free ult and you buff all bursty type of arts damage.

[cosmic python]

AKEKURI MY GRILL

[livid mirage]

Antal is more valuable than Gilberta

[river laurel]

Akekuri is in all of my teams

[mortal coral]

Oh yeah SP generators are gonna be even more durable

[river laurel]

Give us a Akekuri alter

[mortal coral]

No team is gonna go "hmm I don't need more SP"

[livid mirage]

If her vuln+pull was on her bs, she would be meta

But now we have to wait for ult
And since she is a 0sp buffer, we sure waiting

[obsidian verge]

I will make my bet
Since 1.3 and contingency contract is dropping soon at same time
I bet that dragon dude is universal buffer

[ember thicket]

we need akekuri module first that buffs her ult sp gain

[livid mirage]

I don’t see myself using Gilberta instead of antal for meta

[river laurel]

100% sure theres gonna be little or no passive sp regen in the future

[livid mirage]

Gilberta is a cryo buffer and devs don’t like cryo

[river laurel]

Yvonne will get powercept with someone with bigger cheeks

[obsidian verge]

Zhuang fangyi,perlica, arclight and antal or alesh? Who's better?

[livid mirage]

Who dragon? Vampire? That dude probably dps

Sui gonna be support fo shore

[river laurel]

He could be leavs fire support

[livid mirage]

Antal has bit more damage
Alesh has smoother rotation

[livid mirage]

Could be yes

[obsidian verge]

Not gonna look good for mi fu who definitely scream DPS

[obsidian verge]

Got it thz

[river laurel]

Tangtang for yvonne
Vampire for leav
Sui for fangyi ?

[livid mirage]

Mi fu dps for Rossi or vanguard for lavacake

[peak dagger]

mifu screams either hard replace for arc or another dps

[mortal coral]

When is Pog gonna be powercrept

[livid mirage]

4.0

[obsidian verge]

Then who's gonna be main dps for 1.3 surely we're not going through 1.3 with no main dps

[river laurel]

When someone has more drip than him

[peak dagger]

pog is too pog to be replaced

[mortal coral]

No joke

[ember thicket]

we dont have premium physical yet right?

[obsidian verge]

Vampire got drip nah he's twink

[ember thicket]

Rossi dont count as physical

[river laurel]

Pog alter will replace pog

[livid mirage]

Fangyi pog and Gilberta are hard to just up and replace

Even if we get better, they’ll hold a niche

[winged mesa]

holy guesswork talks 🗿

[livid mirage]

When you play enuf gacha, this will make sense somehow

[mortal coral]

Oh no we're discussing the game's future and we aren't 100% sure what we're predicting will happen, better just never talk about it then

[obsidian verge]

Ima just hope for cowboy that's all

[livid mirage]

Gilberta feels like venti and bronya

[winged mesa]

ive played gacha since i was a young 7yo and basing future kits with 0 actual information still doesnt seem to make sense to me

it all feels like tis and tat until we get the actual thing

[river laurel]

Let us be delusional-

The lack of content makes us bored

[livid mirage]

We play a gambling game

We gamble on future kits
It’s simple as that
It can be true, it can’t be true
That’s the gamble

[river laurel]

Its 50/50
Its either true or it isn't

[peak dagger]

its better for us to speculate than create absolute cinema in our factory

[obsidian verge]

Endfield Devs want us to endure the boring rerun banner phrase 2

Can 1.3 come already?

[livid mirage]

It’s to justify having a 34 day zhuang banner

They love zhuang too much
They will marry endmin off to zhuang atp

[river laurel]

Isnt this patch like 50 days

[winged mesa]

zhuang banner itself is 35 days patch is 50

fest of brilliance is 21 days

[livid mirage]

No one else has a 35 day banner
Zhuang getting that special treatment

[river laurel]

On the bright side
Better pulls to banner ratio

[worthy estuary]

Do not make the same mistake as og arknights

Blaze meta - 2020
Thorns meta - 2021
Surtr meta - 2021
Chalter meta - 2022
Texalt meta - 2024
Mlynar meta - 2024
Yatoalt meta - 2024
Wisadel meta - 2025
Logos meta - 2025
Exualt meta - 2026

Units still used nowdays:
Mlynar, texalt, wisadel, logos, exualt

[river laurel]

But this ain't og ak

[winged mesa]

everyone else had 17 days but those were alternating banners

[obsidian verge]

How I be spamming her ult bs on minor inconvenience

[obsidian verge]

Fuck?

[winged mesa]

do you guys just never look at the schedule

[obsidian verge]

Really can't see when the fest of brilliance will end

[livid mirage]

fym alternating

[winged mesa]

version intel, sanity event

[obsidian verge]

I see.

[winged mesa]

it means the patch had other units

[obsidian verge]

I'm getting laevatain and gilberta on 10 pulls trust

[livid mirage]

yeah
zhuang given special treatment
they didn't lack units to release

but they decided to give her a entire patch anyway

[livid mirage]

share luck once you done

[junior pier]

what the heck you are doing with 7 years old you, touch some grass

[winged mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/brave-frontier-rainbow-gate-mega-rare-summon-mega-rare-gif-18138062155481505401

ts was peak

touching grass

[obsidian verge]

Normally one character patch last 30 days with 10 days being rerun banner
What were they smoking?

[winged mesa]

what the fuck is normally

yk what i dont wanna ask anymore you guys have fun

[livid mirage]

They can’t be bothered to give entire patches to chars that’ll get replaced

[obsidian verge]

In other mainstream gacha game...

[obsidian verge]

Hopefully powercreep will (it won't) stay stable for atleast a year if not 7 months

[livid mirage]

yeah makes me want to skip every unit in 1.x
i only got zhuang cos aoe was hell with physical team

and zhuang goes all "kamehama"

[peak dagger]

i decided to make a new account just cuz of how big the diff was between laev and zhuang. i focused too hard on her in 1.0 that i wouldnt keep up

[drifting narwhal]

sometimes
The best play is do nothing

[obsidian verge]

Her bs aoe is genuinely big asf and her single target DPS is extremely high too
I even thought she's better laevatain (I might be wrong)
She will survive
6 months

[livid mirage]

she is insane lmao

tops in both single target and aoe

and her team is free

[obsidian verge]

W green onion

[livid mirage]

give her a artificed set and she will drop millions of damage

[pearl surge]

people sure love zf

i only love zf when she is ult

[glossy wagon]

Is my team of Perlica, Last Ride, Ardelia and Xaihi good?

[pearl surge]

without ult, i kinda hate her

yes

assume you don't have TT, yes

[glossy wagon]

TT?

[drifting narwhal]

Agree, I hate zfy

[pearl surge]

tangtang

[crystal sentinel]

I kinda want Tangtang to build real ice teams.

[wet moat]

nah, at least shes useful on dijang

a better xaihi

[crystal sentinel]

I use her all the time. Her battle skill is goated.

[coral hazel]

Hello i am a new player in arcknight endfield I want to know can I even get an 6 star event character or not if I can than after how much hours

[autumn wasp]

The game gives you a lot of free pulls, even if you just started now. You should be able to get a standard 6-star pretty early on. For an event character, it'll take longer, but you definitely do get more than enough pulls to guarantee the one of your choice if you just complete the story.

[polar chasm]

I'm planning to try and pull Gilberta from Fest of Brilliance banner. How dependent is she on her sig weap? I hope she's not dogshit/painful to use without it

[humble drift]

just use stanza

[celest wasp]

can use stanze on her

[drifting lotus]

for certain units stanza is just straight up better

[autumn wasp]

From a single-target perspective, without her weapon, you will be limited to either Stanza or her BP alternative. Her BP alternative is somewhat annoying in that you only get the buff when you cast her skill, which isn't always viable depending on the team you're playing. As for Stanza, she basically becomes a character whose only contribution occurs when you use her ult. It's still a strong option in terms of damage increase though.

For AoE/casual, the weapon you use literally doesn't matter and you can just use whatever.

[polar chasm]

what's her bp alternative

[autumn wasp]

This thing.

[polar chasm]

oh

[autumn wasp]

Honestly the good thing about her sig is you get massive ultimate gain efficiency, allowing you to just spammy her ult.

But so far the only team I could potentially see that being an advantage in is Fangyi. For things like Rossi/Yvonne I'm gonna get stun window anyway and by then Gilberta's ult is back up.

[polar chasm]

honestly im kinda broke after pulling zhuang so I don't think I'll have pulls for gilberta sig anyway 😭

[autumn wasp]

Don't worry, I'll get it FOR you!

Even though I should be getting Zhuang's sig.

What's done is done though.

I'm getting her sig mainly because I use Gilberta in all my teams, so I figured I'd upgrade that instead of making my already strong character with maxed out weapon EVEN STRONGER.

[plucky ravine]

i know its not meta, but what pieces should i run on da pan? i plan on using pog, lifeng and chen alongside

[autumn wasp]

Swordmancer for faster stuns, Yinglung for bigger numbers. With that team, you should be stunning fast enough already. I haven't messed around with Swordmancer that much though.

[novel sleet]

is she worth the m12?

[plucky ravine]

so maybe for funny numbers, phys damage bonus strength/will chest and kit pieces, then those lynx ult gain gloves or something?

[subtle trail]

Whats zhuang fangyi maximum will stat?

Assuming she has sig, and using xiranflow set + lynx slab

[autumn wasp]

I ran all physical damage bonus, didn't bother with UGE.

[knotty mason]

Nvr mind. I decided to wait for her. How much longer?

[autumn wasp]

I think 862.

[autumn wasp]

Tomorrow!

[subtle trail]

Rlly? The boost from weap essence must be a lot huh

[knotty mason]

Asia tho

[subtle trail]

Hmm okay then thanks fr the info

[knotty mason]

Idk man

[autumn wasp]

I have her BP weapon but it's the same.

[knotty mason]

Your tomorrow might be some other day.

[autumn wasp]

You end up getting a lot more ATK with her sig.

[subtle trail]

Luckily alr got one. But so hard to upgrade her essence

[autumn wasp]

Yup. I only finished today. lol

[knotty mason]

@autumn wasp what server?

[autumn wasp]

I'm in NA. It says 14th of May, but I'm also not sure about the time.

If you we go off of when events start though, at least for NA, I'd say is like... 21 hours away.

For non-NA I'd have no idea.

[knotty mason]

Err...

Gil not coming or is she?

[autumn wasp]

She is! I think those dates were for her first banner.

[knotty mason]

Ok my bad

[knotty mason]

I'm planning to get Gilberta for my Rossi

We seriously need another char like Gilberta

[autumn wasp]

I'm planning to get her weapon for my Rossi, Yvonne, and Fangyi.

You mean like a support? Or someone that groups up stuff?

[knotty mason]

Idk

It's just I see in guides almost every team in Endfield needs Gil

[autumn wasp]

Trrrue!

Makes sense that you're getting her. lol

I didn't like Laev so I had all those pulls to go for Gilberta.

[wispy sparrow]

is there a better team i can build rn or is this the best?

[loud edge]

Are any of the Pass weapons worth P5 ? (I have 1 copy of each and 6 Potency cases)
like, worth more than a Signature P0/P1

(ps, My Lae vand Fangyi weapons are P5)

[past snow]

Hi! Srry for the long text.
I was upgrading my main team: ZF, Perlica, Gilberta, Arclight & Antal (I rotate between Gil and Antal so i simply upgrade both)

And, when i was doing some etch essence, I was about to upgrade Gil's weapon. The thing is, im not sure what would be better for her.

I have her BP weapon (Opus) P5. I use this weapon as i have it lvl 90 and it even allowed me to complete all Endgame content and trimmed medals.

I have Stanza of memories P4. Not upgraded but that is my question. Should I use Stanza? or do I keep using Opus?

Her signature should be available for pull tomorrow, so, that's also another situation, im not sure if it is worth pulling as I already have the BP and Stanza P4. Im doubtful about this one situation as i've seen that people use Stanza over her signature but only P5 (As far as im aware of). Soooo, not sure what to do in order "improve" her.

Sorry for any spelling.
Thanks!

[rare kettle]

Definetly use stanza
Im sorry to say but Opus is..bad and its a shane you both lvl90'd it, and p5'd it no less

Her sig is good so no harm in having it, but at the same time also no harm in skipping it as well

[past snow]

Whatashame.
But well, I suppose I can leave stanza at 80 for now while I get the last copy eventually.

Thanks for helping!

[arctic sky]

.reddit

[languid wasp]

I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.

[autumn wasp]

P5 Opus. 😭

[past snow]

[static python]

how quickly does Tangtang get ult if I tooled her for maximum ult gain?

currently can't pass the DPS check in Tidal Grief stage of umbral monument, and wondering if I can farm freeze quicker to compensate

[autumn wasp]

When it comes to stuff like this, there's too many variables like, team etc. The best way is to just try things out yourself and see where it stands.

[strange surge]

chat the best best zhuang team is
perlica arclight and gilberta? and does the team slots matter?

[gentle lava]

what gear set do yall give tangtang for yvonne teams?

[gleaming vessel]

Bonekrusha

[supple oar]

hello so when rossi ults there are multiple 6 digit damage numbers, is this just build up? or are they different damages like they total 600k?

or is my damage just 300k?

mb if kinda confusing

[gleaming vessel]

They add up

Total 600k for example

[supple oar]

oh ok ok ty ty

[pearl widget]

What's a good early game Rossi team? I lowkey want fire and her to be the main dps. I refuse to use that panda oh hell no.

[supple oar]

going akekuri and antal with her works for me for fire dmg, but my early game was hybrid phys

[pearl widget]

Yeah lol I'm doing Rossi / wolfguard / akekuri / endmin

It's doing okay just was wondering if there was better lol

[lethal tapir]

Well, that's just under 800k, but yea they add up. You would add up all the numbers on the screen, when the damage is being built up the number gets replaced with the new higher number.

[waxen ravine]

Focus the purple ones first. They're resilient and thus aren't stunned by solidification or lifted/knocked

[acoustic edge]

Build her battle skill

Its persisting aoe and high dmg

[old ice]

how tf do you beat that last umbral moment stage

i just get stunned into infinity even when im dodging the attacks it's dot pools and lines just make it impossible

[tardy pebble]

well, if your unit get stunned, you can still use other unit's skill to interrupt cuz the boss is basically interruptable on almost every attack

although tbf, i didnt even know he stuns you till i ran agony the second time...... fangyi killed it so fast even in agony lol

[waxen ravine]

Tidalklast has stupidly easy patterns you just need to time your dodges better

[old ice]

agony mode?

normally i'd agree with you but the thing shooting out missiles non stop makes it mildkly harder XD

[tardy pebble]

of course our experience on how easy the boss is matters a lot in terms of how long we spend in there.
but its just dodge better, as bad as that advice sounds, the boss doesnt really have a gimmick on what to dodge.

[old ice]

tidalkast just kinda mid design ig

too many big red circle attacks

[waxen ravine]

Perfect dodging that is very very free

Just bring either Chen or Perlica if nothing else so you have someone who can interrupt everything

[old ice]

using a Zhuang team

but i can't really do any dps when perlica is required to eat all the skill points just to interupt

[waxen ravine]

You must have a low investment ZFY

What wep are you giving her

From what I've heard ZFY is just so busted that the thing just doesn't exist long enough

[tardy pebble]

ya that fight dies super fast on my fangyi run

less than 1 min for sure <(ok i probably need to rerun it for timer but it felt that fast)

[waxen ravine]

I forget can you bring buffs into Umbral

[old ice]

i mean

fully maxed with her sig isn't low investment

the issue with the dps isn't zhuang it's not being able to cast her skill since i never have SP?

[waxen ravine]

How's her gear looking, and what's the rest of your team?

[old ice]

all max? lol?

[waxen ravine]

... how do you never have SP? Are you just mashing?

[old ice]

?

[old ice]

?

[waxen ravine]

The thing doesn't do charge attacks that frequently

[old ice]

lol what

[waxen ravine]

And it takes forever to decide its done charging

It's just a Tidalklast

[old ice]

you seem to be a rather unhelpful person

i did beat it tho so ciao

[tardy moon]

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[wet moat]

bruh all p5

[tardy moon]

can still get under 50 with p1 lifeng + p5 glorious + p0 everything else

just crit more

[wet moat]

go do it

[tardy moon]

give me p1 lifeng

[wet moat]

im still grinding is5

monteer is the answer for end2

[light cosmos]

I finally got a perfect essence for GM

[undone coral]

mujicaknights go

or kazknights

[wet moat]

only have sakiko + welfare

nah logos pram monteer

[tardy moon]

is that togawa sakiko from the hit game arknights

[wet moat]

anyway, back to grind

[undone coral]

[wet moat]

bruh im still diff 15

[undone coral]

“Can trim”

[wet moat]

oh w8 its end 1

[undone coral]

U max out the ascension indicator at d12

[tardy moon]

ave mujica shill stage

[undone coral]

Yeah it’s end1
I’m tryna 2->3 rn

[wet moat]

skip 4th end

[undone coral]

can’t do it with 5 ops and 1 healer

[crystal sentinel]

Guys, what do Last Rite teams look like if you don't have Tangtang?

[wet moat]

ferryman so annoying

[wet moat]

lr khrav xaihi ardel perlica

[undone coral]

LR / Xai / Perlica / Ardelia or Gil or (off-pick) Kuri

and khrav

[wet moat]

maybe after im done end5 then gonna spank end4, hoe s2 stall time

[crystal sentinel]

Yeah, it looks like I need that Khravengger.

I have the characters, but I'm missing that one key item and it's that weapon.

[bronze raven]

My p3 lr eotting

[waxen ravine]

There's a certain point below which the only real advice to give is "dodge better"

[crystal sentinel]

I think my Last Rite is P1. I haven't used her yet cause I'm in need of her weapon.

[light cosmos]

What’s better for lifeng mountain bearer or jet?

[dusky valley]

Whats a good weapon for gilberta?

[cold cargo]

Her sig and stanza

[grim prairie]

Dont know this is the place to ask, but what does pog do? Got him c1 on standard and dont know what he even do

[humble drift]

Phys support

[grim prairie]

Really? Then i will bench him for now, using aby rn and dont wanna build 2 teams

Thx btw

[autumn wasp]

Abywenna.

[light cosmos]

His ult is also good for sp regen… but you need physical stacks to make it work, or physical susceptibility to trigger his CS

[waxen ravine]

Mountain Bearer and it isn't close

[waxen ravine]

Vuln stacks not phys susc

You need at least 2 phys statuses plus 3 stacks vuln consumed

I don't remember if Lifeng CS counts as a phys status

[sour sentinel]

no, only Link

[light cosmos]

I thought that pogs cs was triggered when a physical susceptibility was applied

[light cosmos]

And that pogs ult was also triggered by his cs

[tardy moon]

triggered when vuln stacks are consumed by crush or breach

pog's ult follow ups are triggered by any physical status and each hit of his combo

[light cosmos]

Ah I just know it all happens too fast for me to follow

His ult also deals like no damage the highest I’ve gotten was 15k

[tardy moon]

yeah his personal damage is rough

[light cosmos]

But breach four plus ori crystal plus link plus physical susceptibility with vuln x4 setup for crush with endmini goes brrrrrtttt

[waxen ravine]

No its when vuln stacks are consumed
Ult is on cs hit or phys status apply

[light cosmos]

I don’t know how it compares to dapan tho

Pogs abilities were really confusing for me to understand so I just used him for sp gain

[waxen ravine]

Da Pan is better for now

Endmin has the potential to be stronger overall but it's dependent on the p4 and p5 upgrades whenever we get those

[prime trail]

Hi, I'm just wondering why my last rite is doing less damage than my red wolf guy? Did I pick wrong? She feels so slow as well😭

[waxen ravine]

Are you making sure she's getting the buff from Xaihi BS? And remember, proc her CS at 4 stacks, not 3

[acoustic edge]

Lr rots are usually slow but her dmg ceiling is higher than wulf

Xai ult ard ebs/gilb ult and perli cs

[prime trail]

I just started yesterday
Idk any gameplay yet
I'm just comparing raw dps🤔

[acoustic edge]

Last rite is a nuker with slow buildup

She is good against bosses but not particularly good against weaker mob encounters

[prime trail]

Okok

So I need Xaihi

[acoustic edge]

Xaihi is a must have for any cryo team

She is irreplaceable

[crystal sentinel]

I still want Tangtang.

She's in the banner pool but I had to skip her banner for Fangyi.

[prime trail]

How do I pull for the current electro?
I heard her team is free
And she's meta
Can I get enough pulls in like 2-3 days
I just started?

[crystal sentinel]

There's not much time left.

[autumn wasp]

If you grind a lot and rush the story, you have like a bit over a week to get her.

It should be doable but you might have to play like A LOT.

Even if you don't get her though, it's probably worth trying.

[crystal sentinel]

Fangyi is a beast for the current Umbral Monument.

[prime trail]

I got like Ardelia tday🤔

[autumn wasp]

I mean, you can really just use any character. I had an easier time with Yvonne.

Fangyi is a bit rough in that stage where you can't let the monsters reach the middle.

Her AoE is a disaster (until ult).

[fathom stratus]

im building TangTang and on Last Rite guide from the pins, shows and UGE chest on the pic, but following the description, it seens the other one is better to...
what you guys using?

[gilded viper]

Fangyi, Archlight, Gilberta, Perlica the best team with Fangyi?

[autumn wasp]

I just run 1 piece of UGE on Tangtang and it's fine.

But I did have to artifice it.

[acoustic edge]

Arguably yes

[fresh gust]

What teams can I make with my characters? Which characters should I build if they’re unbuilt?

[acoustic edge]

Its one of her best teams

[halcyon ridge]

Monument brain rotted trim solution :

[flat panther]

holy, dude got every single chartered OPs

[acoustic edge]

You can make good rossi fangyi and laevatain team

[fresh gust]

what are their teams?

[halcyon ridge]

either this is a account buyer or a whale that skips reading

[acoustic edge]

Laevatain wulfgard akekuri ardelia

[flat panther]

rossi, tt, perl, gil

[acoustic edge]

I don't think they have gil

[halcyon ridge]

dude got Gilb, just use Gilb

[flat panther]

rossi, endmin, gil, perl works as well

[acoustic edge]

Oh wait they do

Lmao

Fangyi perlica arclight gilberta

[halcyon ridge]

Why bother Ardelia when u got the best thing is Gilb

[fresh gust]

none of the above actually. i am freee to play but i maanged to get every single character. i actually lost 50/50 on fangyi to get rossi. got a few earlies

[acoustic edge]

Rossi tangtang perlica gilb

Can even build a yvonne team if you like her

Yvonne tt perlica gilberta

[fresh gust]

Yea i like yvonne

[fathom stratus]

where's the old guide for Yvone, what is the name for me to search

[halcyon ridge]

yeah u maxed pot POG so with the current resources in this game for a F2P there's 0% chance they'r'e getting all chars even when they win 50/50, so far no records on data ab anyone F2P reaching that point via every tracker

don't lie

[acoustic edge]

Not whale=! F2p

[fresh gust]

i did not lie

[acoustic edge]

They might've spent a bit without whaling

[halcyon ridge]

full POG = a lot of miss rated

[fresh gust]

i did not spend any money. how do oyu want me to prove it?

[acoustic edge]

Huh

Anyhow you can build like every top performing team rn

[halcyon ridge]

poggy shows at least 4 times missed the 50/50, unless dude's winning after every 40 pulls, which so far never happens

[flat panther]

could happen tho

[fresh gust]

Is there a way to show the records of all my summons?

I will just have to prove it taht way lol

[acoustic edge]

Zfy hypercarry rossi hypercarry rossi sub dps speedkill shenanigans laev hypercarry laev rossi etc

[flat panther]

theres couple of dudes in cn gacha flex that got p5 zfy in 200 pulls or less

[halcyon ridge]

could only, but never been happen on any account

[cloud storm]

Do you guys think it's worth it to try getting Gilberta weapon?

[flat panther]

so for someone who able to p5 pog, that aint surprising at all

[halcyon ridge]

absolute

[acoustic edge]

If you are tight on arsenals or f2p I can't recommend personally

[flat panther]

not absolute but u can try get it, since DG got uge

[dim summit]

I hafta wait a month for this rerun banner to end then maybe mifu will come

[halcyon ridge]

with that profile u can't " F2P "

[flat panther]

gil can use dg/stanza/monaihe

[dim summit]

Im tryna pull all the pink gurls so far yvonne, next mifu

[acoustic edge]

Stanza p5 frequent beats p0 sig tho sig has bis use cases its kind of a sidegrade

[halcyon ridge]

despite u 100% everything u still don't get to that point where u drop a 6* every 20-35 pulls, which devs ain't stupid enough to not notice and put a red flag of rate manipulating

[fresh gust]

well the only thing i can prove is by showing people that i didnt buy the double packs right?

[cloud storm]

I'm "F2P" (only bought battle pass once for GM copies and won't again, probably) but I got 7000 arsenal things rn and nothing else to spend on, my Gilberta used Stanza at the moment but if I'm in a team where I use her and Perlica, my Perlica is using Mohaine because of that 😅

[crystal sentinel]

I wonder when we'll see the 1.3 livestream.

[halcyon ridge]

then u ain't virgins anymore ya ain't F2P anymore

[acoustic edge]

What team are you using both on?

Wtf

[flat panther]

btw my DG is p2 cus back then im tryin to get DU which i failed

[fresh gust]

well i guess i bought teh bp too. the one with the origeometry stuff. never spent a single dime of real money and never will

[dim summit]

Maybe two ior three weeks even atp they seem to be on break

[halcyon ridge]

the moment u swipe ya card u are out of the F2P tag! it's fine, without people swipping cards there's no game to play

[cloud storm]

That's why " ", I don't buy pulls nor anything else, just this time lmao

[acoustic edge]

@cloud storm what team do you run both perli gilb on

[dim summit]

Monthly pass counts? Ig that makes me dolphin?

[cloud storm]

Tang Xaihi Perlica Gilberta

[crystal sentinel]

You think this patch is as long as it is because the devs are using this time to prepare lots of new content in the future?

[halcyon ridge]

despite giga whale or dolphins ya still paying and we all knows without people like u there's no game to play

[acoustic edge]

Ok i do think that comp gilb can benefit decently from sig

[halcyon ridge]

obviously

[acoustic edge]

Cause tt mdps wants corrosion and gilb can build more arts intensity with sig uge

[fresh gust]

Does this make me free to play?

[halcyon ridge]

Free 2 Play = absolute 0 spending, nothing real money related on

[cloud storm]

We got it

[halcyon ridge]

idk what kind of mindsets people are out there now but F2P core's meaning was like that

[dim summit]

I made like 20$ from playtime in google play money
But rn they dont give gud deals so i uninstalled

[halcyon ridge]

no one in here called u are filthy Pay 2 Win, we don't have PvP , instead, we greatful

so, TY for supporting the game

so the devs can think out new things that gonna torturing players

[dim summit]

Isnt the CN whales funding this game so not rlly needed from me

[cloud storm]

Got it, I'll try to luck it out with the arsenal things I got then, I'm saving pulls for the coming characters so I can't afford to go after the guaranteed

[acoustic edge]

You generally get less arsenals than char pulls without spending on arsenals i would suggest considering just saving as well

Otherwise you may not have enough to force your next sig

[halcyon ridge]

I'm running a business, I don't give a damn ya buying once a month or u are a super customer

[fresh gust]

that is all i got to prove to you guys that im free to play but you are free to beleive what you want lol

[halcyon ridge]

profits is profits, ya paying, that's all I ever care

[dim summit]

I would top up more if it gives guarantee or no 50/50 ngl

[cloud storm]

With how my luck is in this game, I would assume I'll end up getting the weapon for the character I decide to pull not gonna lie, I had to go 120 both for Laev and Tangtang, got Gilberta on Laev banner, so with how things went I ended up with enough pulls for the weapons lmao

[acoustic edge]

Don't think 120 guarantees enough arsenal for sig hard pity

[halcyon ridge]

and between a simp comes everyday vs 10000 people came once a month each paying a fraction of that simp, I choose ... both!

[dim summit]

In NTE no 50/50 so gud

[cloud storm]

Don't worry about these people

[halcyon ridge]

because that fraction x10000 times are some real money

[fresh gust]

this just went so off topic lol

[halcyon ridge]

so even u are just paying tiny money for monthly cards it's still a profit

[fresh gust]

Laevatain wulfgard akekuri ardelia
rossi, tt, perl, gil
Fangyi perlica arclight gilberta
Yvonne tt perlica gilberta

did i mark down all the teams?

[dim summit]

Ya i am a consumer lol

[halcyon ridge]

u are matter despite how low ya paying, because 10 , 100, 1000 , etc people paying it like u the money multiplies

[cloud storm]

I think y'all should go to another channel

[halcyon ridge]

drop out Ardelia, put Gilberta

[halcyon ridge]

Fangyi team drop gilberta for alesh / akekuri, she's a SP drinking machine

Gilb is only there when u need a burst team, if u can't burst down the target that Fangyi team are screwed cause the lack of SP

[dim summit]

Is int-ing alesh better or just fun gamba for the fish

If u put a fortmaker on him

[halcyon ridge]

yeah just give him fortmaker or a thermal cutter

Fangyi's biggest problem r the SP consumes and utter stupidly long charge of ultimate

so if can't use food or can't burst down target that's going to be a dead weight

[winged mesa]

lmao what did i just backread

[placid helm]

what time is updateto yall

[acoustic edge]

Literally the average akefo interaction

[placid helm]

som1 share their yvonne's build

[winged mesa]

[winged mesa]

theres this #1495318310584324218 message

[acoustic edge]

@winged mesa whats laev rossi team setup

[winged mesa]

laev rossi wulf gil

team needs a lot of workaround upon things, personally disliked laev twam

[solid vapor]

who do i use for Fangyi team?

[winged mesa]

whichever team is most comfortable to you but the base ground of the team is most of the time, Fangyi Perlica Flex Flex
flex options being

• arclight/akekuri/alesh: sp recovery with thermite enabler and their personal buffs
• gilberta: good susceptibility debuff
• antal: general comfort de/buffer + 1 elec stack on cs
• ardelia: same sp usage as antal with her own debuffs and whatnot

some rather not so popular options

• avywenna: works as subdps, also can provide Elec Susc and Infliction
• tangtang: universal arts debuffer but pretty invasive since she has 1 cryo stack on bs/ult
• Rossi: usual stuff where shes splashable for wheelchair comps

[faint sierra]

In Fangyi teams do you prefer for your sp recovery operator thermite cutter or edge of lightness?

[acoustic edge]

Thermite

[waxen ravine]

Thermite

EoL is just a worse thermite

[faint sierra]

I can't really understand why but I'll trust you 😊
Guess atk is way better than dmg

[wet moat]

simplist explanation, tianshi already got too much dmg+++

adding more end up buffing less

[sacred mica]

It's related to the game's dmg calc. But basically dmg bonus bracket is typically ultra diluted alr cos u get it from so many sources. Meanwhile atk r kinda more rare so u benefit more from it

[waxen ravine]

+dmg is more common and same category buffs are less efficient the more you try n stack

... which is why Pog sig is a chunk worse than Thermite ... facepalm

[sacred mica]

Some exceptions r like gilberta sig vs stanza, which is mostly cos u get 2 usable stats in her sig while stanza only have 1 usable stat (3rd stat).

It kinda just evens out there and even then, stanza still sumtimes rival gil's sig

[winged mesa]

you can always make your physical team to fully buff attack and have pog on nr

[sacred mica]

Tru

[paper meteor]

Gear recommendations? I havent touched their gear in over a month so idk if anything better came out

[waxen ravine]

Yeah I mean Chen buffs her own atk so does Jakub's

But I have a ton of sm stuff

[alpine depot]

Run stanza gil or ard? If you can proc gil cs it's not the worst thing I've ever heard

[winged mesa]

why would you run gil on phys

even if you proc gil cs what good would it do

[alpine depot]

Give vuln stacks?

[winged mesa]

1 stack per 20(19)s is definitely a choice

[alpine depot]

I'm not saying it's good, but it's not technically useless

[wet moat]

idr u can proc ange cs on monopysical

[winged mesa]

its not but half her kit is

[winged mesa]

you cant it requires art reaction

[wet moat]

eyja stanza better

[junior pier]

WHERE!?

[quasi tiger]

thermite isn't real

[wet moat]

brigand banner

[junior pier]

dev cant keep teasing me like this, Karnibal in shop, cmon...

what next? Jet

[wet moat]

ff

or even better, wnn

[pearl surge]

i think based on datamine, wnn

thermite is none T-T) in datamine

[junior pier]

oh cmon...

[pearl surge]

we sadge

[junior pier]

[wet moat]

just pull brigand crate

[pearl surge]

dev for sure know the value of thermite and basically punish us for not picking thermite

[junior pier]

[pearl surge]

and thermite is so rare in weapon gacha

[wet moat]

p2 thermite here

[junior pier]

thermite value become too high in fangyi dual guard comp

[uneven oar]

it's actually chivarlic virtues

[junior pier]

alesh inves stonkz

[wet moat]

dats good wtf

[uneven oar]

but idk if the devs will do a funny and do another JET situation

[winged mesa]

crazy how a singular jet makes everyone just unable to trust the datamine

[paper meteor]

Would this gear still be optimal right now?

[waxen ravine]

Bonekrusha on tt feels off but I can't call it wrong

I don't play arts enough to say

[alpine depot]

Why? It has bs dmg

[waxen ravine]

That's why I can't say

I feel like there's something I'm missing because I run it because I saw that

[junior pier]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[waxen ravine]

If you've seen any conversation where I talk about arts stuff before you'd probably remember that I really don't know what I'm talkin abt lol

[waxen ravine]

Did I miss something? Is WNN suddenly good for something?

[rare kettle]

No
Howd you jump to that with a simple setence like that

[waxen ravine]

Sorry seemed like wishful thinking

[winged mesa]

'optimal' differs per scenario

[pearl surge]

its good, believe me, its good, look at my honest eye, this is the eye of no lie, wnn is definitely good

[waxen ravine]

Too used to the meh stuff being just straight up not mentioned

[winged mesa]

the doc is pretty outdated but you can still run those gears as is

[waxen ravine]

What use case have you possibly found

[undone coral]

future electrify/knockdown hybrid staggerbot copium

[pearl surge]

don't be so cold s1n, it should be electrify/knockdown/lift '3')

[tardy moon]

never cook again

[undone coral]

turns off stove

[exotic iron]

any amber main here?

[tardy moon]

amber from the hit game genshin impact

[waxen ravine]

Amber?

[exotic iron]

sorry

ember

[waxen ravine]

What's ya question regarding her

If it's about viability, she's a safety net who can be used in place of Chen

[winged mesa]

nihao fineshyt

[exotic iron]

the build please

[tardy moon]

https://tenor.com/view/ni-hao-nihao-nihao-fine-shyt-ni-hao-fine-shyt-cosmic-princess-kaguya-gif-12262399347778919181

[waxen ravine]

I just use max hp treatment

Only thing Ember's good for really

[tardy moon]

if you have to use her put her on swordmancer

[waxen ravine]

Use her doesn't mean she's doing damage

[winged mesa]

-# well that depends on what you want her to do

[exotic iron]

so f2p weapon for her?

[waxen ravine]

She does ONE thing

[winged mesa]

whats f24

[waxen ravine]

Sig's great, Finishing call if you're poor

[tardy moon]

she staggers the boss slightly faster than normal

and heals skill issue players i guess

[waxen ravine]

Chen and Lifeng are looking for you now.

[exotic iron]

sorry typo

[waxen ravine]

Do not run. They already have your trail

[undone coral]

sig? ember's sig? i haven't seen that in a while

[waxen ravine]

makes ult heal a bit

[winged mesa]

it really depends on what you want her to do

[undone coral]

im pretty sure ember has three plays

• staggerbot
• HP/sustain
• based ember damagemaxxers
  and they all gear different

[tardy moon]

cryofraud how do you get images to stop breaking on sheets

[winged mesa]

do you want her to be main onfield and doing damage?
do you want her to be sustain?