team-build

[acoustic edge]

Fit in 1 slab if you want dmg

[drifting narwhal]

wait that's no set ?

[acoustic edge]

Same concept as uge laev

Yes

[drifting narwhal]

i thought it's just 3p xiranflow + an uge piece (either bone chest or xira arm)

[acoustic edge]

Optimal setup changes depending on everything

P5p5 you already shred everything as long as you are in ult with correct main attribute pieces

But getting to ult takes forever normally in umbral

[livid mirage]

Zhuang ult takes so long to fill

[acoustic edge]

Running full uge makes her ult charge pretty fast

[winged mesa]

fangyi energy calc is gay

@tardy moon apparently its 1.2k

[flat panther]

Must be gay to calculate fangyi energy

[winged mesa]

getting called out

[weary hinge]

no hablo

[tardy moon]

what do you need all that for

[winged mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-monkey-think-monkey-meme-ponder-monkey-idea-gif-6401133862108294696

[raven badger]

Probably for character abilities

Just guessing ofc

[winged mesa]

nah its for character levels

[tardy moon]

whatttt noooo no way reallyyyy?

[winged mesa]

fwiw i havent found any usage for this after fangyi full artifice

[tardy moon]

just greedy

[winged mesa]

this is not greedy

me with my 4 set variants laev artificed while fangyi has 1 and no one else has artifice

[tardy moon]

[wet moat]

give it to me

[winged mesa]

fight it from me

[wet moat]

[cold cargo]

Im siding hnaf

[winged mesa]

thats crazy all it takes is 1 catalyst and everyones turning side

[tardy moon]

in this economy hell yeah

[wet moat]

[winged mesa]

idk man artifice better

like this

[wet moat]

get him

[raven badger]

Priorities

[supple pollen]

you people artifice?

[weary hinge]

can you guys gimme

40 of those at least

each

i need to get max int on arclight.....

[winged mesa]

for my queen

[supple pollen]

ive artificed like uge and thats it

too many sets and combos to test to artifice

[winged mesa]

i gave in with laev's sets, i just want all of them

[knotty mason]

I did it. I waste my time on this madness. You guys happy now?

[sage dome]

so, what do you think doctor

[orchid solstice]

Does Oblivion have any use on a ZFY team?

[sage dome]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-genshin-impact-sandrone-genshin-sandrone-sandrone-gif-7059706214724830859

[supple zealot]

Is Sunderingh Steel a better sword than Chen's sig? I got friends saying its her better weapon than the sig

[sage dome]

chen's sig? rapid ascent?

[supple pollen]

3rd Fangyi choice in a pinch
Situationally good perlica choice

[knotty mason]

#team-build message
@winged mesa @fallen sleet

[supple pollen]

Aspirant? Yes
Rapid Ascent? Situationally still yes, situationally no

[sage dome]

third secret option: Glorious Memory

[supple pollen]

GM can beat all 4 options but isnt something that would be (assumedly) confused for "Chen's sig"

[supple zealot]

ye, I just only got her sig from AE

Still equipped Sundering Steel and not leveled her sig yet

[winged mesa]

👍

[flat panther]

man i hate 4-6 speedrun being rng

the freak ass jellyfish juking for 4 times

worst luck of all

[knotty mason]

but the farm in Valley 4 still suck. At least the farm in Wuling can auto to a point. I dun feel like doing anything with it

[sage dome]

if sundering steel is already p5, no real point in leveling rapid ascent, except if you play ember in your phys team and know your stagger points

[supple pollen]

most if not all v4 planted things dont need to be watered as often as wuling ones so the amount of time spent ends up similar if not equal

if you collect at equal intervals at least

[winged mesa]

if you jsut collect them at least once daily you wont need to wate rthem

[supple zealot]

Got 3 copies of them but havent pot 3 the one Chen current equips on, so uhh

Me saying this if there are any ops I havent leveled up could use them

[raven badger]

That‘s assuming i remember my farms exist, which i don‘t

[knotty mason]

I need to

water them is a must

[winged mesa]

it isnt

[dusty axle]

should i just use a team of fangyi, perlica, arclight, ardelia?

maybe i should just replace ardelia with antal

[sage dome]

as far as I know, not many operators can equip rapid ascent and see some use out of it, maybe rossi but it sounds really mediocre on her

[knotty mason]

The timer doesn't move if I dun

[sage dome]

isn't there sprinklers in wuling anyways that water them literally every time they dry out?

[knotty mason]

I mean the ones in Valley 4. where got sprinklers in Valley 4

[dusty axle]

i have ardelia at usable level, investing antal is just making my sanity scream
i'm praying for gil come home soon anyway

[flat panther]

well it isnt like u can plant wuling crop on v4 anw

[knotty mason]

I was in Valley 4 jn cleaning up what I left behind

[delicate flint]

cannot use sprinklers in valley-4

[sage dome]

oh, you just have to water them whenever you can really

[raven badger]

But you can plant v4 plants in wuling so then you don‘t have to water

Just ignore v4

Don‘t need it

[flat panther]

yeah

[winged mesa]

pretty sure it does, i pretty much used to collect them daily

[raven badger]

Maybe does rain water them

It rains in v4 right? I never paid attention

[winged mesa]

idk man i just take the shit daily and it works

[raven badger]

Do you plant them again after you take?

[winged mesa]

yes

[raven badger]

And you don‘t water them?

[winged mesa]

do

literally just 1 water, take next day, it works

[raven badger]

🤦‍♂️

The other guy was talking about it doesn‘t grow if they aren‘t watered

Bc they don‘t

[sage dome]

y u just dont need to water them every hour 😭

[knotty mason]

It doesn't

[raven badger]

#team-build message

[knotty mason]

anyway, I alr made too many planter that I can't put in anymore. This time I'm in Wuling

[sage dome]

bruh

misinfo in my team building chat smh

[raven badger]

This is where the misunderstanding happened

[knotty mason]

I know. Just water once. Once per round

[winged mesa]

i was under the impression that it was clear everyone knows that you will need to water them at least once

i guess nothing can ever be too obvious

[sage dome]

makes sense i agree

[flat panther]

damn i keep missing some rossi ult hits on that stupid jellyfish

[raven badger]

You sir have never worked in customer service

Nothing is ever obvious

Until it is

[sage dome]

~~true, i work in cs ~~

[raven badger]

And then you‘re the asshole for trying to explain it to someone like they didn‘t know

[sage dome]

and you'd think people have gotten used to navigating the internet by now since it's 2026, only to be proven wrong every time you clock in

[raven badger]

Lol

[wet moat]

[remote jasper]

yo chat, is Gilberta worth pullin? I feel like she's just Ardelia but with aoe bs

[pearl surge]

absolutely

her worth is for any art burst damage team

having an operator who have base 30% art suscept, and can add 12% more art suscept, is hard to get

for free, with ult

[lethal tapir]

Her susc comes from her ult, Ardelia's comes from spending 100sp. Gil becomes more valuable in sp intensive teams, since she doesnt need to use any.

[supple pollen]

if you want her > yes
id you dont > no

no unit needs gilberta and she's not universally bis

but she is splashable on basically anything and can be a decent upgrade to other slots

grabbing sig is deal for uge rots but that can be expensive

sig isnt always ideal weapon choice too, which can make investment feel worse

[wooden grail]

just pull her

[raven badger]

My brain thinks it wants to pull for her but it doesn’t realize we are poor and we do not need her and saving for a character that I really really want to play is going to be better dopamine

[ripe badge]

Guys is real for 100 pulls?

[rare kettle]

What is real

[raven badger]

Hä?

[ripe badge]

Yeah the ads he the game give me

[rare kettle]

What

[raven badger]

Hä?

[rare kettle]

[rare kettle]

I knew someone would pull this up

[ripe badge]

Wait guys sorry wrong channel

[rare kettle]

Leave Free alone

[north fjord]

Are you guys using redeem seal to make ZF ulti faster to fill?

[ripe badge]

Anyway guys the pulls of this banner is good or not?

[wet moat]

time to surtr it

[supple pollen]

most people use xiranite arm instead

[rare kettle]

Nope, xira aux arm

We dont have will uge seal
So the aux arm is better due to the stats

[lethal tapir]

Xiranite arm has Will main stat so you don't lose as much damage.

[flat panther]

64s with endmin

[north fjord]

I see. Gotta artifice that

[north fjord]

It's better to ult than usual form right?

[lethal tapir]

Uhm yes, if youre asking what I think youre asking, she does more damage during her ult form. Honestly Zhuang doesnt do all that much damage outside of ult.

[supple pollen]

its a decent chunk still

sunderblades add up

[lethal tapir]

Yea true but by the time you've built up enough sunderblades to do damage outside of ult you usually have the energy for ult lol

[supple pollen]

some what 700, 800%?

talking more post 1st ult

downtime between 1st and 2nd ult

[lethal tapir]

Thats true, I more so meant the initial build up I guess

[supple pollen]

naturally stacking blades hampers damage but the same applies during ult

[winged mesa]

9 blades out of ult elect 1? like 500%

[supple pollen]

9 blades at elec 1 should be higher

are you counting the enhanced one

[winged mesa]

(45+9)*9 is 486

[supple pollen]

its x15 not x9

since the last one is worth 6

[winged mesa]

oh true

[supple pollen]

or 14

[north fjord]

Meanwhile some people told me prefer to use lynx slab

[winged mesa]

didnt play her for quite a while i quite forgot about that part of the skill

[winged mesa]

its just damage vs ult gain

the difference is there but nothing notable at this age of the game both has pretty little difference

[lethal tapir]

Lynx slab is for burst damage or p4+

It was the most recommended kit before the new umbral, now people are recommending arm more though

[pearl surge]

well, any ult transformation is like that, damage vs uge, laev and zf has something like that

just don't use zf on umbral

its easy solution '3')

[supple pollen]

start with ult? go slab the blades stacked during ult compensate for no uge when losing ult

start w/o ult? go uge to get to ult fast enough

[lethal tapir]

Zfy is fun on umbral though so i respectfully decline

[winged mesa]

bold thing to say when people spend at most 120 pulls just to get her

[pearl surge]

i mean, she already useful enough for mats farming and double dash

[north fjord]

Yeah, since "hard content" start from zero ult.

[winged mesa]

that has no correlation every team is useful we all start with ult

[supple pollen]

I did some slab runs on a few stages and it was like fine

A minute deviation at worst iirc

[pearl surge]

phy just take the longer even tho its ult start '3')

[winged mesa]

yeah tbh due to how fangyi generates energy slab feels like it just prolongs your rotation by just a bit

meanwhile laev slab just bricks

waste of ebs

[pearl surge]

i mean, how many sp you save with uge kit?

[winged mesa]

at most probably 100

[lethal tapir]

and time

[supple pollen]

So many of the stages print sp for you via stagger that the sp gaps dont matter at all

[lethal tapir]

thats why i use the uge kit

[pearl surge]

100, better to use damage then '3')

[oak kernel]

I absolutely adore that my characters are pointing me to chests and stuff I've missed 😆

[winged mesa]

hm

crazy team i just saw

[lethal tapir]

What are they trying to accomplish with this?

[winged mesa]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lethal tapir]

lol

[rare kettle]

Little bit of this, little bit of that ahh team

[grave badger]

Just tried zfy into Rho for the first time and my game honest to god crashed

Genuinely nvr had that happen b4

[winged mesa]

we buffing perlica but mains endmin 🗣️

[rare kettle]

🗣️

[granite shuttle]

Why's the tutorial Xaihi have strength instead of will?
I thought it supposed to be intellect and will

[rare kettle]

Cuz devs are silly

[granite shuttle]

I see

[rare kettle]

And because outside of int, xaihis stats dont really matter

[cold cargo]

That was the other best gear we had in 1.0 for her

If there was no one else running xira in the team she runs xira

[granite shuttle]

Iirc gloves with intellect and will exist that time

[supple pollen]

for most people they're better off on aux arms so you're find to just run aux arm

[cold cargo]

Aux arm on xaihi performs worse

Since they have will as their main stat

Int str uge tubes are better to run for team dmg

Only marginally so, but still

[supple pollen]

Its nothingburger damage gains vs slightly less nothingburger heal gains

For people with any amount of skill issue will is more practical for heals to convert into buff consistency

The int from power cores is less than 1% more on the amp which is like less than .1% team damage gain on average

sure if we assume perfect gameplay power core is better but like the average player is not even close to that

[rare kettle]

@cold cargo

Pookie

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV15J5p6fEga

For you
Peak i found

[winged mesa]

hidden embed this smells fishy

[scenic wedge]

Hey how does essence etch work? I dont wanna mess up and waste any of the ones I got

[winged mesa]

get perfect 3 stat -> etch them to 5/5/3 -> use coolant gel to make it 6/6/3

perfect 3 stat refers to the current weapon your operator is wearing

as for supports most of the time you will only care for the 3rd stat hence it can be x/x/3

alternatively, https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Essence#Essence_Etching

[pearl surge]

you etch you fail, you etch, you fail, until 5/5/3, the rest is what rena said '3'(

[shy rivet]

guys ik this has probably been asked before, do you use qingbo gloves or eternal xyranite gloves for fangyi?

[flat panther]

huh

[rare kettle]

Eternal

[pearl surge]

??

[rare kettle]

It was never asked dw

[pearl surge]

zf??

[rare kettle]

Cuz thats weird question

[shy rivet]

huh i thought it'd be good since qingbo gives more intellect (tbh i still don't really get how the stats works)

[pearl surge]

if you want uge, you use kit uge, what did qingbo gloves again?

[scenic wedge]

So I sacrifice other essence to upgrade the one I want?

[rare kettle]

Uge iirc

[shy rivet]

intellect 65 will 43 and ultimate gain efficiency +20.5%

[rare kettle]

And xiran flow gives will and int

Will > int for fangyi yk

[shy rivet]

RIGHT YEA MB IM LOWK BRAINDEAD LOL

i thought for a second intellect was fangyi's main stat lol!

[pearl surge]

heh, so, people choose glove rather than kit ones huh

[rare kettle]

Its okay, half the people i meet here are too

[shy rivet]

lol braincells taken away by factory building

[winged mesa]

yes

[winged mesa]

its an option

not every build is set in stone

[pearl surge]

no, i just wonder is that the threshold of uge for zf

i didn't build uge stuff, so, i don't know the threshold for zf to have uge good enough for her

[winged mesa]

not necessarily since again fangyi energy calc is very annoying

[pearl surge]

welp yeah

[winged mesa]

if you want to have the bs% from kit and rather to have lower uge you can use gloves but it would likely amount to nothing

there was this old sheet that idrk how trustworthy it rly is but

[drifting narwhal]

Moonrunes jumpscare

[rare kettle]

Moon runes

[pearl surge]

umu umu ... me understand nothing, but, umu umu

[winged mesa]

tldr if we take aux arm as 100%
xiranite gloves performs at 99.95%
slab performs at 118.27%

[pearl surge]

oh

[wise dock]

to become a true dalao you must learn chinese

[pearl surge]

18% is huge for ... well, saving 100sp and time and hassle

[drifting narwhal]

Chinese dalaos 🛐

[winged mesa]

probably should note this is a hot start number

[pearl surge]

ult start one huh

[drifting narwhal]

I mean yes slab sucks without ult anyway

[winged mesa]

full pieces list
Chest - Arm - Kit - Kit
BK Xira Xira Xira
BK Xira Xira Flow
BK Xira Flow Flow
BK Xira Xira Slab
BK Xira Slab Slab
Flow Flow Flow Xira
Flow Xira Flow Flow
BK Flow Flow Flow
Flow x4
Flow x3 + Slab

[drifting narwhal]

Im just wondering if bone chest or xira arm is better

[pearl surge]

oh, 100% standard is not flow x4?

so slab add 9%

good enough

[cold cargo]

Low hp character performs good in % hp dmg content

[shy rivet]

guys lowk

how accurate is this
https://endfieldtools.dev/gear-artificing-solver/

[winged mesa]

lowk no one here uses that

we just use the filter ingame to find it

so theres no telling if it is 100% accurate or not, but endfieldtools has quite the reputation by its own so

[rare kettle]

100%

[shy rivet]

aight ic thx yall

[keen spear]

i have been blinded

i missed 2 daily runs

[glass ruin]

account bricked reroll

[pearl surge]

hi clown, your account is bricked

[uneven oar]

feels like rerolling would brick you harder than just proressing

[pearl surge]

you should reroll, its okay, you only have all the operator, you can still reroll '3')

[cold cargo]

@rare kettle

[rare kettle]

Yes hello

[cold cargo]

bwaaa

[rare kettle]

Bwaa indeed
Nitro just ran out
No more bwaa

[cold cargo]

no nitor

[rare kettle]

No nitor🥹

[cold cargo]

Peasant like me and s.ln now

[weary surge]

didnt want rossi but i pulled her from the banner anyway so what's a good team with her

[pearl surge]

i never buy nitro '3')

[cold cargo]

Same

[shy rivet]

yall

is wild wanderer better than oblivion for perlica in a fangyi team?

[pearl surge]

yes

[shy rivet]

aight

what do you think i should get for the gloves btw?

[pearl surge]

i don't build uge, so i don't know

oh for perli

[shy rivet]

yea for perli

in a fangyi team

[pearl surge]

qingbo

[shy rivet]

so all qingbo yea armor, gloves, and kits

[pearl surge]

i think kits the redemeer uge for 1 kit

so 3 uge stuff

eh 2 huh

oh 3

[shy rivet]

wdym

[pearl surge]

well, it depend on your build tho, do you want to build for uge or what, people build uge perli for zf mainly for free damage

meanwhile, for me, i build perli full art intensity for more general stuff

[shy rivet]

yea i guess i'd prefer uge for my fangyi team

brah

[pearl surge]

then build 3 uge qingbo with 1 redeemer since qingbo kit has no uge

if i have gilb, my perli is not only for zf, but for rossi team too, so, i use perli qingbo art intensity

[shy rivet]

oh yea dw im bothered enough to change between fangyi setup perly and general setup perly

[pearl surge]

there is no gear presets in endfield, if there is gear + team presets, it will be blessing

[shy rivet]

true lol

[pearl surge]

so in the end, since i like playing multiple team to not make this game boring, i play the safe one, which, use generally good gear rather than specific gear

i need 2 thermite T-T) i only have 0 thermite

ake is for sure, but, i want arclight to have thermite too

[knotty mason]

This set for Perlica?

[pearl surge]

full art intesity set, yes

[knotty mason]

So like this? I thinking of putting her in my Fang Yi team

[pearl surge]

for fangyi, people prefer qingbo because of 15% cs cd reduction

so the timing fit more with zf cs cd

[knotty mason]

zf? cs? cd?

[pearl surge]

zhuang fangyi combo skill cooldown

[knotty mason]

tbf I'm not too sure what teams I can do for Fang Yi

[pearl surge]

if doubt, seek clown

[errant plinth]

should i rather keep tangtang or gilberta in my zhuang, perlica and antal team?

[pearl surge]

no arclight for free sp?

and free electric stack

and thermite and frontier applier

[undone coral]

i woke up and caught another stray

[worthy estuary]

As long as she gets perlica and arclight, she is happy. Last member can be fuck all for all she cares

Mine is avywena and she keeps hindering the team by killing the enemies too fast

[cold cargo]

Am i lying

We are 2 of the 5 nitorless ppl here

[undone coral]

two aux arm WIL, +10HP/bs each = nothingburger
two cores INT, +.46% amp each = also nothingburger
compromise, a core and a core T1, nothingburger amp gains and not-nothingburger heal gains
thoughts?

not like beginners would need to rotate faster than 480SP+1cs per ult anw

[pearl surge]

i prefer pizza over burger '3')

[acoustic edge]

Arts intensity is usually good to build on perlica, what pulsar is best for but with fangyi she doesn't want to build for intensity as fangyi eats the electrification anyways

Its better to put 3 piece qinbo on perli for faster combo skill cooldown for zhuang team

[pearl surge]

if only perli ult give something rather than pure damage

[acoustic edge]

Then she'd be like a limited unit

16 percent electrification cs and susc ult

🔥

[supple pollen]

o2 tube t1 has no will so its not something to chase on intmax xaihi

its mostly just marginally more useful for xiranite xaihi

[undone coral]

we're comparing xira xai options no?

[pearl surge]

i ain't hope that much, 100% art suscept is enough

[undone coral]

i admit o2 tube will be pretty terrible for healing yeah

oH my typo. i meant core

[supple pollen]

do you mean 1 power core + 1 t1 power core

[undone coral]

yeah caught that. sorry

[supple pollen]

if the uge is wasted its an option

but then it's still the argument of core vs arm on the other kit

[undone coral]

guess so

one could also argue that the 10 heal from arm might be wasted too

[supple pollen]

i mean yeah these are near negligable values

[undone coral]

yeah
but sucks when rec, cus u never know who needs what

[supple pollen]

strive for the most applicable

which is where id argue for arm 99/100 cases

[undone coral]

i see ur point

[supple pollen]

you then also have the argument of like transferrable to like gilb or xaihi

if you artifice it, versus core for like antal

future proofing yada yada

[undone coral]

mhm
though from now on i'll probably rec one power core of each

i sorta slept on heals til u mentioned it

26.9% is, what, 150HP/bs

before will modifiers

and 480SP cycle is pretty reasonable for both cryo teams

[austere lotus]

Hey everyone, sorry to interrupt your afternoon, a friend of mine is wondering which teams he can make with these characters, does anyone have any ideas?

[wet moat]

adjustment for xaihi gear?

[undone coral]

new account eh. tell him to pull more, at least get the beginner banner 6* first

[cold cargo]

Not for us

[undone coral]

not a lot of options rn, but story pulls will get u a lot of pull currency

[wet moat]

endmin chen perlica ake for now

[austere lotus]

Okay, you can leave it, thank you very much.

[undone coral]

for now, lore team (endmin / chen / perlica / wulfgard) will suffice til they get actual options

it's not that i don't wanna help him build a team, it's just that there's no synergy to build from rn

[undone coral]

just tryna sort out general recommendations for xira xai

[austere lotus]

Imagine, that's already helped a lot in preventing me from giving him the wrong teams.

[wet moat]

[cold cargo]

Only avy team possible there but i wouldnt recommend anything until he gets his first 6*

[oak kernel]

How is the potential maxed but it says 6/9?

😳 wouldn't maxed be 9/9

[zealous orbit]

only with essence

[arctic sky]

the last 3 levels comes from the essence
You need an essence with +3 suppression

[oak kernel]

oh I have no idea what that is yet ty though

[arctic sky]

You will get the quest for unlocking essence system when you reach Wuling

[oak kernel]

ty ^^

[crude schooner]

Which should i replace i would like to keep Zhuang and Tangtang

I would like to somehow make zhuang charge ulti faster too

[oak kernel]

How can I know how many stacks of vulnerability an enemy has?

[north cradle]

possible to build a decent team or is my account bricked? Have Perlica at P3

[fading shore]

it's this icon next to hp. enemy can have 4 stacks, so each line around it represents 1 stack.

[oak kernel]

tyvm!

[cold cargo]

bruh wdym bricked you just started

[oak kernel]

😆

If you're into the whole re-roll until you get something you like go ahead but IDK how feasible it in this game

I'm happy with my current roster at least for now

[fading shore]

fangyi / arclight / perlica... not sure if i want to run akekuri (already built) or alesh in slot 4. i get the impression alesh has an easier time keeping edge of lightness' buff up

unless akekuri's ult counts as individual sp procs to instantly cap out its stacks

[opaque valley]

it does

[fading shore]

i wonder how much of a difference it makes. i'm not a math endmin, but it would surprise me if one link buff for 1 out of 5 battle skills during fangyi ult could bridge the gap of just having whatever Alesh's RNG provides at the time, since his combo skill goes off frequently

some numbers i've seen suggest that akekuri pulls ahead by a few % and i'm just wondering... how

[zealous orbit]

you could go with some kind of basic physical or catcher dps, but you havent finished the beginner banner or anything so just run anything until you get some of the free six stars

you shouldnt be stressing about team comps at level 4

[north cradle]

rerolling

[scenic wedge]

So I’m trying to etch an essence but it keeps saying success rate low, how do I change that?

[opaque valley]

you cant

its either luck or you gel it

[waxen ravine]

You don't you just gamble

[scenic wedge]

Damn I just gotta thug it out? It’s not like gear where we can get those “good match” ones when artificing?

[opaque valley]

nope

have fun thugging it out

[scenic wedge]

💀🫩

[opaque valley]

youll get numb to it real fast i wouldnt sweat it

[scenic wedge]

So what’s the coolant gel for?

[chrome beacon]

Guaranteeing the etch

Have fun spending about 1 third of a patch's stamina to 6/6/3 an essence

[scenic wedge]

Omggggg

Idk how many days it’s been but I just gotta thug done farming for the right essence for all my characters

Now I gotta re-grinddddd

[opaque valley]

played since launch and ive only got 6 max essences

unless you devote all your stamina to purely essence farming then its gonna take a while

[cosmic plume]

Anyone tried zhuang fangyi vs hill smasher?

The 3rd umbral, last stage

Been trying to figure out how to go about the fight but between the need to remove the heat stacks and fangyi using her battle skill to get ult, there isn't enoigh sp. Especially with the natural sp gain being disabled while he's enraged

I'm using Gilberta (stanza, eternal xiranite) Perlica (ww, qingbo) and Arclight (thermite cutter, frontiers) with fangyi

[slender spear]

wouldn't using perlica skill to remove the heat stacks work?

[cosmic plume]

Yh

But you don have natural sp recovery. So you can't bs with fangyi

[wet moat]

perlica bs every 3-4 stack

[cosmic plume]

Making her ult build up extremely slow

[slender spear]

trying to speedrun it or just getting a clear?

[cosmic plume]

Cause the stacks build faster than I can land final strikes

[cosmic plume]

Just clear. Done it with others and was curious how fangyi would handle the fight

It isn't going well so far

Getting rid of the heat stacks is fine but i can't capitalise on the lvl3/4 electrifications

Which also means arclight isn't using her combo skill as often so even less sp

I can tank 1 of of those special attacks at most. A second one results in death

Fangyi's death mind you but at that point, reset

[slender spear]

well if it's just a clear and not some optimized speedrun, you can probably just take your time and accept that the ult will take a while to build up

you'd have enough sp to remove the stacks and not die at least

[cosmic plume]

Yh

There goes my dream of free high lvl electrifications

[lethal tapir]

Try putting cata's on perli you'll get 50 sp returned.

[cosmic plume]

Well, I still get them, but can't rlly use em.

[cosmic plume]

The purple set right?

[lethal tapir]

Ya

should help a bit with sp on that stage

[cosmic plume]

Aight. I will try this tmrw. It is midnight for me rn

Thnx guys

[scenic wedge]

That exactly what I’m gonna do, I like dedicating every to that one thing so it get done faster, it means I get to enjoy the game faster in the long run

[opaque valley]

tbh you can get away with only maxing out mdps/subdps essences, then going for x/x/3 for supps

so its only like 1-2 max essences per team

[lethal tapir]

6/6/3 is easy to get on supports, honestly most support can live with 1/1/3, its just main dps that need max essences, and TangTang.

[scenic wedge]

Yeah that’s my plan, first work on main and sub dps, then supports. But I will indeed max out supports

[scenic wedge]

How is it easy on supports?

Is it not the same 6/6/3

[wet moat]

u can always use purple essence on slave

[lethal tapir]

I just mean the odds to get to rank 6 arent nearly as bad as 7 and 8, so supports are easier to stop there without maxing them out like you'd want to with a max dps

And even that is overkill most of the time, some supports may have useful second lines like Gil's sig or w.e but thats situational. Most of them are useless.

I usually just get my support essences to 6/6/3 when im trying to get 450 gel's for a final upgrade

[scenic wedge]

Hellllllll no. Gold for all

[scenic wedge]

Ahh okay gotcha

[lethal tapir]

Feels like better value than dumping them all into the void trying for that lucky r9 upgrade

[stiff widget]

is next banner reruns?

[lethal tapir]

Yea, Laevatain and Gilberta are reruns. They'll be here in 2 days

[stiff widget]

so i should pull for p1 fangyi say no more

[lethal tapir]

Well, if that was the confirmation bias you were seeking I wont stop you.

The next banner will only be up for a week after Fangyi's banner ends before the next patch/banners though.

2 weeks(and 2 days) total from now

[opaque valley]

doesnt it end with version update? thats like june 5th something

.roadmap

[languid wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[lethal tapir]

Oh youre right

3 weeks

Weird, I had it in my head the rerun banner was only 2 weeks. Maybe it was just 2 weeks after Fangyi's banner that I was thinking and I got it mixed up

[stiff widget]

https://klipy.com/gifs/war-1000-yard-stare--k01KRF8EPGXD59EVVKM7F9CDD2R

WELP

looks like the ole wallet will need to make an appearance

[lethal tapir]

Well if you're willing to do that then why even ask lol. You're also asking a whale.

p1 Fangyi is really op if you're willing to pull out the credit card if it comes down to it

I'm not gonna recommend someone spend money on the game though

[stiff widget]

i've only ever bought the battle passes so i'm like the lightest spender

but yea p1 fangyi seems too good to pass up

only 30 pulls for guaranteed 6 surely we don't lose the 50/50

[stiff widget]

i say this in terms of none of the previous characters needing p1 at all

[lethal tapir]

The energy from the extra sunderblade alone opens up new rotations, its a lot more valuable than i initially thought when I first got it tbh. Still wouldnt recommend someone spend money though, especially when they have a 50/50 to contend with. You're just as likely to lose.

If the idea of spending money and losing hurts to think about don't do it.

[stiff widget]

SILENCE

I HAVE FAITH

[wet moat]

not enough faith

[lethal tapir]

I only spend money with the expectations I'll lose and build pity towards the guarantee so that way any wins are a happy surprise instead of being devastated by every loss

[stiff widget]

THE CHUBBY LUNG WILL GUIDE ME TO VICTORY IN THE NAME OF VICEROY ZHUANG FANGYI, GLORY TO HYPERGRYPH

[lethal tapir]

I lost 3 50/50's in a row on Yvonne's so any faith I had was shattered then and there lol

Make sure to gift Zhuang chubby lungs before pulling

bribe her, real talk thats how I got her p5p5. (totally not just placebo)

[wet moat]

*get ember

[bold wind]

ember is underrated

shes so pretty

[undone coral]

another one for the church of ember

[wet moat]

nah u just horny to her

anyway back to is5

[wise dock]

is5

[undone coral]

is5

[wise dock]

yep lets throw hnaf to d18 and make him do 245

[wet moat]

nah, its only levelig

[undone coral]

dewit

[wet moat]

i need more mats for encio alter lol

[undone coral]

just wiz it

[wet moat]

nah i bansadel

[undone coral]

undulation go?

[wet moat]

caster gogo

[undone coral]

gogogo

[wise dock]

ew undulation slop user

[wet moat]

p5 logos

[wet moat]

its call me

[bold wind]

i am not horny

[wet moat]

not yet

[bold wind]

what am i supposed to do she has everything out

[undone coral]

stop projecting

[bold wind]

clank clank clank get pregnant get pregnant

[undone coral]

damn it’s infectious

[wet moat]

nah, its back to human nature

[winged mesa]

everything you just said is contradicting

[undone coral]

do Kazdel lore clear
Logos nymph medmiya eterna mudrock tinman

[wet moat]

technically i can lol, i have them at max

[bold wind]

shes so badddd

i need to p5 ember immediately

[wet moat]

u know what, the game really approve ur idea

[bold wind]

does this team work

[wet moat]

no

[bold wind]

😔

[undone coral]

ironically sub Lifeng out for an inflictor and it’s…passable

[bold wind]

wdym inflictor?

[undone coral]

Rossi cs needs arts infliction

[bold wind]

pick one!

[zealous orbit]

ember

[undone coral]

Kuri

[wise dock]

ember

[bold wind]

shes already in there silly

[zealous orbit]

so she gets to stay

[bold wind]

so kick out lifeng and who?

[zealous orbit]

kick out rossi

[bold wind]

mfer

do you not see the nam eof the team

[undone coral]

Add kuri / wulf / perlica

[wet moat]

kick ember

[bold wind]

atp kick out everybody and add yvonne tang2 xaihi gil

[undone coral]

the rules of this game is

• Rossi team
• ember must be there
  😭 #team-build daily

[bold wind]

LMAO

[undone coral]

I approve

[bold wind]

you gave me a great idea

[undone coral]

I repent in advance for my sins

[bold wind]

who do i kick out of this team for ember

[undone coral]

tangtang

More vuln stacks for Gil

[zealous orbit]

kick yvonne

[bold wind]

ember dps

[undone coral]

legit, yes good idea

tang mdps with ember sub in for 4th

[zealous orbit]

why wouldnt ember be onfielder though

[undone coral]

Who said she wasn’t

[zealous orbit]

that's the whole point

[undone coral]

Tang’s still the MDPS tho

No way ember overtakes her

inb4 xira tang

[bold wind]

maybe my ember will

with enough encouragement

[merry token]

Why would we be running ember in a Yvonne team

[bold wind]

jrg is late to the party

he doesn't understand the current meta

neither does he understand this is not a yvonne team anymore

[undone coral]

because this guy doesn’t gaf ab meta and loves ember too much

[merry token]

Then play a team that boosts ember

[bold wind]

its okay my ember can boost my other teams

s.ln said so

[undone coral]

I did NOT

[bold wind]

what is your pfp ? is that an orca with a fish on it

[undone coral]

yeah

it’s a 🐟 hat

[bold wind]

looks pretty meta to me

alesh has the best ult anim

[winged mesa]

s.ln said what

[undone coral]

No Rena no 😭

[wet moat]

oi sin

[undone coral]

nawh
That ain’t kazdel

[opaque valley]

this build works for pog right

[undone coral]

*summoning @wet moat *

[wet moat]

ye kinda

[opaque valley]

is his best build still hotwork

[wet moat]

yeah for highest breach

tho triv, just use sm chest

[opaque valley]

ult gain or ai

[wet moat]

ulti gain

[opaque valley]

any particular reason or for aura

[scenic wedge]

Is there a list somewhere that shows what items we use to artifice on certain gears? I keep making gear and it ends up not being able to be used to artifice gear I want so I’m basically wasting my stock bills

[wet moat]

so u can flip flop between sm n hw

[opaque valley]

i see i see

[merry token]

Just make duplicates of the same pieces to artifice if you really don't know what you are doing

[undone coral]

check stats
go to filter -> pick stat -> pick highest & cheapest matching stat.
Remember to look in non-set too

[alpine depot]

Use the ingame filter functionality

[bold wind]

to artifice a kit, you need a kit. to artifice a armor, you need a armor.

[winged mesa]

alternatively a lot of people uses https://endfieldtools.dev/gear-artificing-solver/

[scenic wedge]

Hmm okay thanks yall

[scenic wedge]

I tried this but still, those gears I’d produce don’t show up as options at all

[undone coral]

What are you artificing?
If it’s a non-set, you can only use non-set to match it
Stat of sacrificed piece must >= piece being artificed
And non-set pieces have higher base stats

[scenic wedge]

Swordmancer TAC gloves

[merry token]

Which sub stat are you trying to artifice?

[scenic wedge]

Physical dmg

[merry token]

Okay so just use any gloves that has physical damage substat

[wet moat]

if its 2 stat only, u can only used another 2 stat gear

[scenic wedge]

It’s a 3 stat

[scenic wedge]

Gotcha

[undone coral]

Just use more TAC gloves. It’s cheap anyway

If u ever do the STR stat then u can opt for the more expensive Redeemer Hands for better odds

[scenic wedge]

Okay so for the strength stat for hotwork gloves I’d just look up any gloves that have the strength stat?

Also how do I get the ones that say “good match”

[cold cargo]

[merry token]

Not everything can have good match

[undone coral]

it’s called sleeptalking. Ever heard of it?

[cold cargo]

uuh, no actually

[undone coral]

-# also I’m walking home

[cold cargo]

bros sleepwalking to his home

[scenic wedge]

Okay gotcha, what about the first part of that message, was i correct?

[undone coral]

This, or something

[merry token]

Yes , ideally you want good match, this usually comes from using non-set pieces but not every stat can has a good match option

[scenic wedge]

Gotcha thank you

And for kits? I can only artifice kits with kits? Or nah?

[merry token]

Yep, only kits with kits

[scenic wedge]

And body armor with body armor

But I can use non set gear on body armor, gloves, kit right?

[merry token]

As long as it's the same gear slot

[serene walrus]

What gear do you need to artific swordmanser dagger ultimate dmg bonus?

[merry token]

Still has to be non gear set body to artifice another body piece

[merry token]

Whichever kits have ult damage bonus

[serene walrus]

thanks i got it now

[alpine depot]

Damn, the artificing solver sucks too on that site? I'm starting to think it's not useful at all

[merry token]

Check the non gear set pieces to see if they have any ult damage and use those, if not then use any other ult damage pieces

[alpine depot]

That solver doesn't account for crafting cost

[merry token]

?

Non set gear costs a bit more to craft but has higher chances of succeeding

And catalysts are the main issue, not stock bills

[alpine depot]

Among gear with the same success chance, it is not accounting for crafting cost

Stock bills are timegated, just like catalysts

Only components are "free"

[merry token]

Hmm that would be nice if they did, but it doesn't really matter imo, can always just check

[alpine depot]

If people were doing that they could be using the ingame filter for the same effect, the solver doesn't do much lol

[merry token]

Solver tells you which pieces to look at

I'm ngl a lot of people just don't realise there is a filter

[alpine depot]

There's a filter for nearly every item menu ingame

It's generally useful but sometimes slightly annoying due to being so small

[scenic wedge]

Gear slot? Like set glove to non-set glove? Or you mean something else

[wet moat]

ssame type

[winged mesa]

bold assumption that people even understands how artificing works in the first place

[nova cosmos]

Xiranflow for leek lady?

or does she go ult% like Lava cookie to cycle ults

or pulser

[shell stag]

Good morning from here. A quick question everyone.
Do I need Intellect stats on Rossina's MI Secruity Set for artificing or I can just leave it as is?

She's mostly agility stat-wise, but dunno if I need to artifice her Intellect stats as well

[nova cosmos]

I've been looking at the iana doc

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W0FL8l3UOerwfS4Y5D2yHdJlXadz_vmmBSND6zUyn-8/edit?usp=sharing

has data on rossi, so i'd follow their advice, they're pretty solid about mechanics

they have nothing on leek lady yet tho

[shell stag]

Gotcha. Will take a look.

[winged mesa]

iana quit the game a while ago the doc is now quite outdated

[lethal tapir]

Iana doc is outdated since they quit, I wouldn't really use it anymore outside of maybe Yvonne

[winged mesa]

if you prefer to get the small increase in attack you can artifice int, if you prefer to preserve catalysts then skip

[winged mesa]

up to preference, just not pulsar

most popular build is
0ult content 3pc xiranflow + eternal xiranite aux arm
100ult content 3pc xiranflow + lynx slab

[shell stag]

I don't mind a little more oompf. I also have a lot of Artificing stuff because I didn't buy the collectibles

[winged mesa]

decision ultimately falls on you, we cant help you make that, each substat is +.2% to the attribute bonus for attack

[shell stag]

Yeah. It's so little, but I will take it

Thank you very much for the tips. I enhanced her Intellect stats too just in case

[crystal sentinel]

My Gilberta build. Basically complete, although I don't know if artificing her armor is really necessary even despite the fact that I got fully maxed essence on her weapon.

[plucky marsh]

Artificing gives a flat 30% increase to stats so yes

[crystal sentinel]

I mean, I have done it with multiple other characters. I was just curious if Gilberta should be one of them.

[plucky marsh]

I’m getting her too but only when the 1.3 devlog is out to see if it’s worth it saving for the 1.3 ops because they might be Zhuang’s BiS

[plucky marsh]

UGE yes because there is a breakpoint in UGE with Gil and her sig to get her ult in just 2-:cs

[nova cosmos]

is there a new maintained doc?

I tend to only drop by occasionally

[crystal sentinel]

These are the only characters whose armor is artificed so far. Finishing up Chen at the moment.

Also, what does UGE mean?

[quasi tiger]

Ultimate Gain Efficiency

[crystal sentinel]

Oh. So they were saying to just artifice the ult gain stat, huh?

[waxen ravine]

Wrong armor on endmin

[crystal sentinel]

How is that the wrong armor?

[waxen ravine]

Orange heto sm armor

Agi str phys dmg

BiS by a lot

Same for chen

Also, aren't Pulsar Gloves more AI?

[crystal sentinel]

The original isn't the wrong one. In fact, this graph here says it's only a small change.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1z_kNScI9N3jISA_iQ45BbrvP7quT2NnqF8-bzStvJzw/htmlview#gid=232962643

[waxen ravine]

It is a change nonetheless

[quasi tiger]

like how much do you mean by "a lot"
cause it's just the 1.0 set

cause i do got the same thing

[waxen ravine]

More than 0

[crystal sentinel]

If it's too small to matter, and the armor is already artificed, it's no big deal.

[quasi tiger]

Bruh

[waxen ravine]

Any positive change is not forgettable

And better Crush is better Crush

[crystal sentinel]

Is something not getting through to you?

[quasi tiger]

i think it's just better to wait cause we don't even know it's gonna switch again later on
better to stock up on catalysts

plus nothing to do after already done with current events

[crystal sentinel]

That's what I plan to do real soon.

[winged mesa]

none as far as i know of but there is a general usage doc pinned here, some things are still missing as the doc is new and author is rather busy irl

[crystal sentinel]

I plan to save my catalysts for Mi Fu.

[waxen ravine]

I wonder if Mi Fu will be phys or elec

[quasi tiger]

nature

[crystal sentinel]

Also, my Chen still has 1.0 armor artificed. Her set changed twice since then. Still rocking OG Swordmancer stagger build with P5 Sundering Steel.

[waxen ravine]

Why not gm

As far as I'm aware none of the bp sigs have been great except for gm

[crystal sentinel]

I never opened any of my BP boxes.

[waxen ravine]

The BP boxes aren't even future proof...

They don't get future BP weps added

[crystal sentinel]

Cause I don't feel like opening them.

And I don't even use Chen like that.

And I had other more important characters to work on.

[quasi tiger]

pretty sure i saw p5 sundsteel is better than p0 glorious but obviously you can get p5 glorious easily/long-term

[lament nest]

So excited for her weapon rerun bc I've been using Umbral torch

[quasi tiger]

how do you even use chen

[crystal sentinel]

With the main trio, of course.

[quasi tiger]

~~endfielders and there's rhodes island sneak 🤮 ~~

[crystal sentinel]

What about Rhodes Island?

[quasi tiger]

I was thinking of like how do you do your rotations

[crystal sentinel]

Oh, I don't know. That team is a bit random.

[quasi tiger]

it's not that random lol

[crystal sentinel]

I think there is a rotation for it. I just never learned it yet.

[winged mesa]

do you have something unartificed i dont think thats the max int lol

youre missing if im not mistaken 11 more int

[lament nest]

Unartificed chest and gloves

[winged mesa]

ah i see

[waxen ravine]

Respect

[quasi tiger]

i did have that team before they rolled out the 6* selector
I also thought the team was pretty random, until i learned about wild wanderer
Perlica's kit is a bit lost on a team with chen and endmin, until you realize WW buffs both elec and phys
with that weapon, she can now buff chen and endmin's rotations, while also being the one-man team sneak she previously was

that team should now be just perlica and ardelia doing their buffs/debuffs, then chen and endmin doing their dmg rotations

[crystal sentinel]

I did have that weapon until I gave her Oblivion and made her do some real damage.

[quasi tiger]

I mean you could but like no synergy

[crystal sentinel]

I use that same weapon while she's on this team, too.

[quasi tiger]

...

[winged mesa]

i mean not like it matters rly

ww buff is pretty small and making perlica do actual subdps damage is fine too

and this way the electrification in phys team does help a bit

if i am not mistaken ult m3 perlica is like 700% mv

finisher is 900% but thats all the same with every operator, she does get +30% dmg% from tslent

[quasi tiger]

is the buff really that small

[winged mesa]

consider dilution

[polar thorn]

Does anyone knows what gears put on lifeng?

[winged mesa]

you can always sheet it out but napkin math is considering
22.4% partywide phys dmg%
ai boosted electrification that the party cant use outside of perlica
vs.
100%+ perlica elec dmg%
AI boosted electrification that perlica can use to further boost her own damage

the difference shdnt be that far team dps considered

holy god the fact that ww gives ai too

[plucky marsh]

I really hope you can at least do 30k damage on Perlica ult if you are planning on using that gear set

[winged mesa]

a well invested perlica can probably do 200k at least

[crystal sentinel]

She's done way more than that before.

Well, she can do way more than that, I should say.

In fact, while I was using her in the Fangyi team, she hit like, somewhere over 100k.

[winged mesa]

without proper rotation 100k sounds about right

[plucky marsh]

It’s just that by using that gear, Zhuang’s rot is an extra 3second late because you have to wait for Perlica cs, it’s good to get extra 100k damage but it’s better to comfortably do your rot

[winged mesa]

i mean thats all preference rly

[crystal sentinel]

But I still do it anyway.

[plucky marsh]

My perlica is operating at bare minimum capacity and 20k ult damage and I’m happy

[winged mesa]

if thats comfortable to them, i dont think anyone rly have the right to have any say, its their gameplay

[plucky marsh]

Well because somehow she only has 2k4 attack anyway

[crystal sentinel]

I care about making my Perlica actually do more than just be a support.

She's been built like that before Fangyi even came out.

[plucky marsh]

I might do that too if 1.3 turns out to have zero ops that I need to pull

Then I will have the resources to invest in her

[crystal sentinel]

Hey, how much ult gain does Gilberta even need in this team?

Remember, I did artifice her armor still.

[winged mesa]

have you even seen what pieces youre wearing

half of the stats dont even match her main stat its why your attack is low

[winged mesa]

uge breakpoint is rot dependant

[plucky marsh]

She barely has strength and agility and she only has high intellect and will :0

[crystal sentinel]

Oh. I think she's got over 190% currently.

[plucky marsh]

I remember someone saying she needs like 214% but you can get there by artificing your geat

[winged mesa]

if you dont have specific rot then a basic 3xiranite+hot work cartridge is just fine

[crystal sentinel]

@winged mesa These are her pieces.

[winged mesa]

yeah its whatever anyways

in laev team shes doing 1ult every 1 laev ult ebs anyways

[winged mesa]

you cant fyi

and idrk what breakpoint is 214% uge

[crystal sentinel]

You might have a point.

[winged mesa]

oh its a 5s1c breakpoint, probably fine to have

[ember thicket]

Does Chen's CS proc GM's passive?

[acoustic edge]

You can fit it in 2 ebs i think

[crystal sentinel]

What's the final verdict?

[acoustic edge]

Maaaybe even 3

[winged mesa]

the average player would probably not go for this

[winged mesa]

its fine to have but might be unnecessary/too little in other scenarios

its why uge breakpoint just isnt a general set thing

[acoustic edge]

Most shit wouldn't survive a gilb ult laev ebs anyw yeah

[simple gale]

Which pog gear should i use, the frontiers set or the hotwork set?

[winged mesa]

preference, but most popular is hotwork for the increased breach

[winged mesa]

also prob not

[acoustic edge]

7 ebs laev ult is a thing I can't say for certain but i wouldn't be surprised

[winged mesa]

15s 7ebs vs 5s 3ebs is quite different

if you take the average thats like 3.5ebs in 7.5s

[acoustic edge]

Doesn't have to be 5s 3ebs time gilb ult to end of first ebs

And align ults and stacks

[winged mesa]

lots of vibes are saying its still not possible

youre sacrificing 1 stacker for gil in there

[acoustic edge]

Its kinda nothingburger but lemme see how the rot pans out

[winged mesa]

also ult time stops when you do laev bs

gilb buff time doesnt

[acoustic edge]

🤔

[winged mesa]

you'd need to skip laev cs and laev bs to even do a 2nd full ebs

[acoustic edge]

Does laev bs behave like ult cutscene or are you saying it extends ult duration effectively

[winged mesa]

basically like cs timestop

[acoustic edge]

Timestop usually doesn't extend applied durations in active time

[simple gale]

crush vs breach, which one is better?
Since for me, landing pog battle skill is harder compared to endmin crush

[acoustic edge]

Sounds unique to laev ult if that's a thing

[winged mesa]

can also be a case of me saying shit out of my ass can confirm it here if
https://vxb23.tv/MKQp2Ti

[winged mesa]

breach is a debuff, crush is a damage skill

you need to do breach first before doing crush

[winged mesa]

fangyi shd probably have this too but i havent confirmed that

[ember thicket]

why is hotworks pog recommended in the physical sheet?

[drifting narwhal]

maybe i should build emeber

[winged mesa]

arts intensity increase breach

[ember thicket]

I see I see! thanks

[acoustic edge]

@winged mesa how long is laev ult btk start to fs with good cancels

[winged mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-monkey-think-monkey-meme-ponder-monkey-idea-gif-6401133862108294696

never timed it but shd be ~3s

i know we can do 5fs in ult

[tardy pebble]

Does antal allow fangyi to reach her ult faster than gilberta?

[acoustic edge]

You can get enough heat stacks for 3 ebs one gilb ult even accounting offsetting the nature but im not sure if laev btk time can make it cause you need to fs to turn heat into melting flame for ebs

Probably can't

[winged mesa]

yeah i forgot to point that out but its what my initial thought is

theres definitely not enough time to get the molting flame

[acoustic edge]

Especially since its not just triggering but getting to the final hit of ebs after

[winged mesa]

2full ebs is possible

ykw this sounds fun maybe ill try it when i got home

actually that nature stack is a lot more annoying than i thought

[acoustic edge]

Gilb ult nature procs wulf cs you ult for reset wulf cs laev cs off wulf ult laev btk seq 3 one heat

That's 4

Throw an ake bs in there and

Thats 5

🔥

[winged mesa]

2fullebs you'd need to save batk4

if 1.33ebs then yeah we can do batk3

[acoustic edge]

Oh i was thinking have the proc conditions ready for first

Then clicking after gilb ult

[winged mesa]

we need batk sequence too 😭

[acoustic edge]

🤔

You get 4 melting flame ebs condition

Gilb ult>ebs

[acoustic edge]

Then do ^

Also don't even need to wait for wulf ult first ebs would trigger laev cs

[winged mesa]

you mean 4 fucking heat stacks ready? that shit turns into cor4 🗿

[acoustic edge]

No

Melting flame is separate from heat

[winged mesa]

yes and after that ebs youd still need to batk4 to get the heat stacks into molten flame

[acoustic edge]

Yes

I am very confused

Aren't we on the same page

[winged mesa]

.

youre saying to do a laev batk3 and we dont have enough time for that

[acoustic edge]

Whatever shenanigan 4 heat stack>laev fs 4 melting flame reach ebs condition>gilb ult>ebs>3 heat stack>laev btk seq 3 final heat seq 4 fs melting flame>ebs

And if u rly wanna skip the third seq then make corrosion with gilb ult

By having 1 heat inflict rdy before gilb ult

Also forgot first ebs in notation

Edited it

[winged mesa]

2ebs would need 400sp actually

unless laev cs is enough time then its 300sp

laev N3 > gil ult > laev ebs > within the same time frame wulf csultcs + 2x ake bs > laev N4 > ebs

[acoustic edge]

By full ebs is your condition that you do not start working towards the first ebs pre gilb ult

[winged mesa]

ye

[acoustic edge]

That clears up a lot of my confusion

You can switch operators for faster btk fs for melting flame and/or to do btk whilst laev is in ebs i think

Not sure if that makes meaningful changes to the rotation

[winged mesa]

1 less stack to clear gilb ult

and idt anyone has a fs sequence of like 2s so itd be all the same imo

[alpine depot]

How useful is gil sig likely to be going forward?

Rn it's quite underwhelming even when it beats stanza

[winged mesa]

the only real value that it beats stanza is uge

the buff is very situational

so i would say probably not as likely but theres also cc

[junior pier]

even if there is mono nature team in future she probably use Deto instead of her sig

[undone coral]

just so happens that dmg bonus is the most diluted in the game
and will get more diluted as they inflate weapon buff values in the future

[mental patrol]

is it true that farming re-crisis bosses for advanced mats is better than farming protocol space?

[winged mesa]

not necessarily

[winged mesa]

all the same

[undone coral]

same drop rate

spend more sanity to get more drops

[winged mesa]

we got a fangyi team and yet perlica cant use deto...

well, can but thats hot start only

[junior pier]

fangyi rotation consume the elec infliction to fast to even start Deto function no

[winged mesa]

also fuck if a nature dps wants nature staxk we cant make cor2

[winged mesa]

thats exactly what i just said...?

[tacit parcel]

What's the best bp weapon to get? Is the rectifier any good?

[mental patrol]

ye but I heard the byproduct drops is better per san

[junior pier]

unless ofcourse if they kinda got reliable way of stacking chain maybe someone to replace those 2nd position so Perlica could take the 3rd or 4th spot for deto

[undone coral]

it is better
because u spend more sanity

per san?

[tacit parcel]

Also is farming for Yvonne sig kinda annoying cuz it uses fracture and there are like two weapons in the entire game that use fracture?

[junior pier]

then again its quite impossible i think, due to how high fangyi sp consumption, i think it only making the rotation less reliable

[undone coral]

i..dont think so
but if someone collected data for it, i'll be convinced

[mental patrol]

yes ik how normal drop rates / san work
I play AK
why do you think we farm 1-7

[junior pier]

someone fund me fangyi p4

[mental patrol]

because of the bydrops

[undone coral]

no ofc i know you know how byproducts work
i just dunno the truth of the claim, that's all

how bout let's tally it and verify

[rare kettle]

Lets verify by a kiss pookie

[undone coral]

kill me ten rhodagns for sanity and i'll kiss u

[rare kettle]

...yk what, maybe the kiss can be for later

[undone coral]

[glass ruin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/613820666696957967/1126241562268008549/1125519393854586940.gif

[winged mesa]

what the fuck are you even saying this makes 0 sense lmao

[winged mesa]

what they meant is you spend 120 sanity instead of 80 sanity so you do get more bydrops than the crisis drills

but dont think anyone has ever tallied the total bydrops%

[mental patrol]

I know that
I'm saying that I heard the bydrops in crisis are better per san

not overall

[junior pier]

no i meant we have to stack those artburst infliction first to trigger deto right

[winged mesa]

all the same anyways

[mental patrol]

obv you spend 120 you're getting better than 80

[winged mesa]

yeah but perlica being in 3rd or 4th slot got nothing to do

[junior pier]

if i would to create such scenario where i use deto i rather put someone before perlica deto, supposedly i would chain something after the final strike, then i follow up with Perlica bs

[winged mesa]

what

[junior pier]

for convenience

[winged mesa]

what the fuck does that have to do?

the problem we are facing with cold start perlica deto in fangyi team is the lack of sp

team order got nothing to fucking do with it

the reason why we can use perli deto in hot starts is because we immediately fangyi ult > ebs to get elec infliction, you can then perlica bs to proc deto

[junior pier]

i do understand that

seems like we have different way approaching perli deto

[winged mesa]

🗿

[winged mesa]

i have no idea what you are even aaying with perlica being in different slots

[turbid lily]

yup another spammer

[undone coral]

goated team
mr beast / mr beast / mr beast / mr beast

[turbid lily]

my f2p team :V

[undone coral]

concernge

[sacred mica]

My cow ate my homework

[winged mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-monkey-think-monkey-meme-ponder-monkey-idea-gif-6401133862108294696

well if youre having fun its all there is to it

[turbid lily]

indeed, that's all the matter

[undone coral]

bottom line
chen can solo
worst comes to worst the rest of em be basicbots

[turbid lily]

furthermore imma just a f2p

[undone coral]

fangyi's whole team is f2p

-# fy/gil team exempted

[winged mesa]

being f2p has nothing to do with making a team

if you plan your pulls around the unit you can form premium teams being f2p

[undone coral]

or, yk
fangyi / perlica / arclight / antal

[shy rivet]

this has to be ragebait lmao

[undone coral]

literally free units

[shy rivet]

.itworks2

.itworks

[acoustic edge]

Pog with fangyi is

Revolutionary

[shy rivet]

.itworked

[languid wasp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086672418832394/1394710066300719184/F_edmin_cry.png

[mental patrol]

hypothetically would this work

[winged mesa]

yes

[orchid flicker]

I got fangyi, perlica, Arclite and the dude with the scales for a team. I'm just starting out tho

[winged mesa]

pretty much standard fangyi team

[mental patrol]

that's arguably the best team for her unless you got gilb
ur fine

[orchid flicker]

Idk how to fight tho

[acoustic edge]

Double vg is also chill with fangyi

Zfy perli arc alesh/akekuri

[mental patrol]

ye bc she eats SP for breakfast lol

[shy rivet]

uhh keyboard click mouse click mouse click mouse click mouse click keyboard click keyboard click and keyboard click

[orchid flicker]

This is the first game where I need to manage which buffs and debuffs are being applies while having combat

[orchid flicker]

I mean idk if I should just spam the same ultimate or switch

[acoustic edge]

If alesh was a girl alesh would get 50x more usage

[orchid flicker]

Ik the dude with the scales has 1 dubuff I need to keep on at all times

Why can't I remember his name.

[acoustic edge]

Antal?

[orchid flicker]

Yes

[acoustic edge]

His bs and ult are buffs yeah

Bs is a debuff actually

[orchid flicker]

Yes. Then I need to put the inflicting on the electric enemy and then fengyi does her ultimate

[turbid lily]

u know, it works...

[mental patrol]

yeah
reminder to put fangyi/arclight before perlica because you want to do fangyi cs -> arclight cs -> fangyi bs -> perlica cs -> fangyi bs again

[turbid lily]

not coz the dps, but... the Sp regen

[orchid flicker]

I'm just pressing buttons and hoping it works out cuhs idk how to apply stacks of the same debuffs. I notice Feng has different ultimate animations sometimes so that has to do with her damage increasing

[turbid lily]

spamming fangyi skill :V

tho.... i can say... the problem lies on the dmg... not much with fangyi standar team