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cold cargo
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Than lr p5 art

tardy moon
undone coral
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HAHIwfEHAEFiwqhhahhAHHH i was SO CLOSE
fuuuuuuuuck i pressed gil ult instead of tang ult first 🫠

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pain

cold cargo
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Time to read the rot

undone coral
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ok 10 foods gone not a single successful attempt πŸ’€

tardy moon
cold cargo
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Indeterminate amount of time seems ok

tardy moon
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visualize yourself hitting it and everything will work out

cold cargo
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Extra rat poison

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Some cement to wash it down

tardy moon
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it’s how i hallucinated the xaihi rot without gil on my account

cold cargo
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Gil skippers PerliWheeze

tardy moon
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i was trying to be a good gambler and hold off pulling PerliWaaaaa

cold cargo
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without gil on my account
Plays phys
Is named hnaf or πŸ…
Checks out

tardy moon
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only lasted a patch

cold cargo
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Premature gambling

tardy moon
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hopefully the next banner blesses me with p2

undone coral
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i hate mobile

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my fingers have to teleport

cold cargo
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If only someone offered you the solution.. something something grow more thumbs

tardy moon
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visualize yourself with two extra thumbs

cold cargo
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Make 2 thumbs from insulation

tardy moon
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the insulation might even grant you two extra limbs

undone coral
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rhodagn targeting πŸ’€
dodging him for SP is part of my rot

cold cargo
undone coral
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mutation

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just feed me uranium or smth

tardy moon
cold cargo
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Bruh you alr ate 60% of it when i got there

tardy moon
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i’ve been here for years

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you ate 40% in a couple hours

cold cargo
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House needs insulation

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Washing machine not as much

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It might not be equal but it is fair

tardy moon
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you’re already radioactive πŸ˜”

cold cargo
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Blame cuddy

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Some vicodin alternative she said

tardy moon
undone coral
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i was THIS CLOSE

cold cargo
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He was that close

undone coral
cold cargo
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Faceless alesj

sacred mica
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Whatchu testin PerliStare

cold cargo
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Damage per screenshot

undone coral
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tryna critfish but havent had a successful attempt even once in the new rot

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im going insane

cold cargo
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Relatable

keen spear
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is arc with obj p5 better than arc with p0 thermite because of the int it gives hmm

cold cargo
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Because of the thermite it gives LifengThink

keen spear
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wait it dosent give int

keen spear
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i lied

undone coral
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arc int?

cold cargo
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You dont cast bs anyway

keen spear
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no bro int doing lots

sacred mica
cold cargo
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Wait

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You mean for perli 2m

keen spear
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yes

cold cargo
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Got it

keen spear
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is obj p5 better than p0 thermite i wonder

undone coral
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nope

keen spear
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crazy

undone coral
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int gives lots but diluted

cold cargo
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P sure atk is just better

undone coral
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does arc have a cap?

keen spear
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no

undone coral
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jeez

cold cargo
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Both trekker and obj is

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dmg%

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Right ?

keen spear
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idk

cold cargo
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Buh

winged mesa
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they are yes

cold cargo
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You shud have like +200% dmg dealt alr no?

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I dont think losing atk for dmg% at that point would be worth it

winged mesa
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wasnt the ealrier argument was bcs clown thought obj has int

cold cargo
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It has secondary stat

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14% sec att

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= int

winged mesa
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well one can calc it..

cold cargo
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Yea it be pretty easy to do so

keen spear
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im so confused

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i just started trying the rot again and for some reason im low on damage

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i tried it like 4 times over and its always so low

cold cargo
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Clown

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Wait im dumb nvm

keen spear
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im actually so confused

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did they shadow patch something this isnt right

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all i changed was i UPPED arc's int

winged mesa
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compare it with your old vid. buff and debuff

cold cargo
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How much dmg are you missing

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Percentage wise

keen spear
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i should have about another 220k+

cold cargo
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So smth that gives atleast 20% more total dmg EndminThink

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First thing that comes to my mind is stanza tbh

keen spear
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current

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is it seriously just the elec

winged mesa
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electrification is quite big

cold cargo
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Ye just elec prolly

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What is that source of elec on the old ss

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Perli cs ?

keen spear
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oh i know the issue its fine

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i tried improvising

winged mesa
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also i dont know if pulsar set is active but there are 2 elec dmg%+, one is trekker idk the other one

keen spear
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it was infact the elec

winged mesa
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are icons limited to the number of space we have btw

keen spear
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so close

winged mesa
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ok so pulsar effect is just unknown then

keen spear
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gg

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i mean pulsar will be active

winged mesa
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no i mean we didnt know if your pulsar was active or not at first

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since you dont have electrif and electrif does last about 7s

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so it probably wasnt active

keen spear
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well i do have electrif now

winged mesa
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and idk what these two are, one shd be trekker

winged mesa
cold cargo
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Oh wait pulser

winged mesa
cold cargo
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Why tf did i think of somethin else mb

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How long does pulser last

winged mesa
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10

cold cargo
winged mesa
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p1 electrif is like 7s or 9s i forgot

cold cargo
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We can just judge from perli cs cd

keen spear
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uhh

cold cargo
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Bruh

winged mesa
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lmao

cold cargo
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He just ate with arc

keen spear
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yes

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i just casted it too early

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in the one that worked i just delayed it a tiny bit

winged mesa
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i dont think so(?)

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there are alrd 2 elec dmg% present

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the one he just got is antal ult, elec heat amp

cold cargo
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Yes one pulsar one trekker

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He applied elec with perli cs

keen spear
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why are you investigating a broken rot

cold cargo
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Pulsar active
Ate with arc
Trekker active

winged mesa
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ok so i forgot how cs ui looks apparently

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yeah so its just electrification problem then

cold cargo
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Ye

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Which makes sense

winged mesa
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kinda crazy how a like +.2 to the arts dmg taken does a lot

keen spear
cold cargo
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Not as much as dmg dealt atleast

winged mesa
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detonate unit is alrd there

cold cargo
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Other than that i dont think there is any

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Clown what pot your deto and what is your ai

keen spear
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p1

cold cargo
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Also antal give dmg taken from bs i forgot

winged mesa
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no thats susc

cold cargo
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Wait is that susc or dmg taken i have to check

winged mesa
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only deto unit gives arts dmg taken

cold cargo
winged mesa
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and electrification

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i mean in that case what if, you cast a 2nd antal bs for +4%

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shd go a lot harder to make it 2m crit

keen spear
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ill have 209 ai

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  • deto unit ai
winged mesa
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your perlica runs full ai?

cold cargo
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Det unit perli ??

keen spear
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yes

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wait NO

winged mesa
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oh yeah its pretty much pulsars thing, right

keen spear
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pulsar year

winged mesa
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det unit perli is crazy though

keen spear
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im stupid

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no its obli

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i gave you like complete misinfo

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its pulsar + obli

cold cargo
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Slab ?

winged mesa
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pulsar + aethertech glove or some shit

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full ai, 29% dmg taken

cold cargo
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Wouldn't slab do more

winged mesa
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bro obli doesnt even have ai

cold cargo
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Pulsar glove + slab

keen spear
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slab yeah

winged mesa
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209 my ass dude

keen spear
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πŸ’€

cold cargo
keen spear
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bro idek i think i was drunk

winged mesa
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dont even know his own build πŸ—Ώ

keen spear
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im actually so confused i dont remember that convo

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i actually think i was drunk

winged mesa
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you asked me to calculate 209 + obli's ai

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i first misread it into thinking its deto unit

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then i sent you the calc and was like

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hold the fuck on, OBLI?

cold cargo
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Ok so

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Accounting for deto, electrification make you do 21.1% more dmg

winged mesa
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thats, a lot lower than i expected

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that cant be right

cold cargo
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So your previous 1084k ss would deal 1314k dmg with elec

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Does that check out

winged mesa
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your arts dmg taken% doesnt seem to

cold cargo
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I mean

winged mesa
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i think clown has p2 det unit?

cold cargo
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He said p1

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I mean dmg diff between
Deto vs deto + elec

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Not total arts dmg taken

winged mesa
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oh

keen spear
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idk what i jhave

cold cargo
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Effect of elec accounting for saturation from deto =
(Deto + elec) / deto

keen spear
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its probasbly p1

cold cargo
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He has 110 ai
54% effect increase
16% elec become 24.6%
Deto adds 16.2%
( 1 + .162 + .246) / (1 + .162) = 21.1%

winged mesa
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110ai?

cold cargo
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Pulsar chest + pulsar kit + pulsar set bonus

undone coral
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so alesh isnt getting xai buff 🫠

winged mesa
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oh ye i forgot abt pulsar bonus

cold cargo
undone coral
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look at the hp

cold cargo
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Jist fs better ICANT

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Oh πŸ’€

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Will artifice PerliWheeze

undone coral
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thats if hes off co and rho jump hits him

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im off to etch thermite will smh

cold cargo
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Xaihi will as well

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Xaihi cube heal more with will

undone coral
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already etched

cold cargo
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.76 per will PerliChaos

undone coral
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to +4

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im not doing +5 when therm +2 is right there

cold cargo
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Artifice

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Glove

undone coral
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already did

cold cargo
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Youd need 11 more wil

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Guh

undone coral
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hah

cold cargo
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Who fkin artifs xaihi will

undone coral
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or i just aleshfish on top of critfish

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fish for

  • alesh npc dodging rho
  • alesh rare fih
  • alesh crit
supple pollen
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Power Core Xaihi players in shambles

undone coral
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sadly my xiranite's on tangtang πŸ”₯

crystal sentinel
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Anything I need to change with Endmin's armor here?

supple pollen
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Wait till we know how p3 interacts and ask again

undone coral
cold cargo
undone coral
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neither

cold cargo
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Or your final dmg will be higher than 1.2m

undone coral
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it's higher

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cus i calc 1.2M with p0 deto

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matter of p(easant)0 principle

cold cargo
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Now p4 chiv ?

undone coral
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yeah lol

cold cargo
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Guh

undone coral
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also i calc 1.2M before they released new tubes

cold cargo
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It wouldnt make a 300k dif

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740k crit alr do 1.1m

spiral dirge
cold cargo
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Rare fin give 15% atk, xai bs give 20% amp

undone coral
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chiv remember

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1.2M is like, baseline PerliWheeze

cold cargo
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Im just gonna assume avg and say youll do 12% more dmg with bs amp and 10% more with rare fih

glass ruin
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cool number

cold cargo
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You should be getting like 1.35m

undone coral
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ooh cool

cold cargo
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But thats just 100% vibecrafted

crystal sentinel
cold cargo
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But 1.3m seems plausible

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What is your xai int

undone coral
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703

wise dock
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703

cold cargo
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703

wise dock
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tfw

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what is this type of dark magic

spiral dirge
undone coral
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YAS three essences got me will +1 -> +3 on therm

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i'm all set now

cold cargo
undone coral
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that's alr enuf to break 1.2M haha

cold cargo
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Ye

crystal sentinel
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That's with the new armor?

spiral dirge
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original does 180k damage with crush with 4 vulnerability stacks

spiral dirge
spiral dirge
cold cargo
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P4 chiv p5 stanza rare fih any other atk buffs ?

undone coral
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therm raw atk

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like, 39+18=47%

crystal sentinel
spiral dirge
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yeah so thats why I said it may be roughly a 60k damage increase with the new armor

cold cargo
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Bruh youll only get like 8% more dmg from rare fih

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7.46% if i didnt miss anything

undone coral
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actual 1.35M

tardy moon
undone coral
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57

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guh

cold cargo
winged mesa
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why is it not green

cold cargo
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Tablet blue

crystal sentinel
winged mesa
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i feel betrayed

cold cargo
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Blue and green brother color no hard feelings

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Right @undone coral

winged mesa
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no it isnt

undone coral
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uh yes

cold cargo
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Blue man

undone coral
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except fluorite

spiral dirge
cold cargo
tardy moon
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what color am i

cold cargo
crystal sentinel
tardy moon
spiral dirge
cold cargo
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The blue red and green man used to live in harmony, until the red man attacked

undone coral
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this is legit funny
i etched will for alesh heals and he's just not getting hit anymore

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im tryna test if he can heal back from rho smash and he's just dodging like a pro PerliChaos

cold cargo
crystal sentinel
spiral dirge
crystal sentinel
spiral dirge
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usually I just looted every upgrade material untill I have enough resource for 4 operators so when the new operator showed up I would immediately be able to build a team which is the case with rossi

crystal sentinel
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Oh, I've never looted.

spiral dirge
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before hand i was just laevatain maining

crystal sentinel
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I'm not just a Laevatain main.

spiral dirge
spiral dirge
crystal sentinel
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The reason I skipped them is to have more time to max out the characters I'm already using.

spiral dirge
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I have 83k oroberyl for mifu

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and I also want to pull for Camille

crystal sentinel
spiral dirge
spiral dirge
crystal sentinel
spiral dirge
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I see

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and you basically got a electric meta team without asking

lyric sorrel
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no yvonne team? :<

pastel stag
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no soup πŸ₯€

tawdry dust
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Best weapon for perlica? (6* and 5*)

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How's oblivion on perlica?

cold cargo
haughty patrol
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good if you build for dmg, not the best if you build her support

tawdry dust
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Sub-dps?

cold cargo
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Elaborate

tawdry dust
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Using her ult, combo, also skill

cold cargo
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Bruh

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You cannot just

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Type the team right, you gotta stay mysterious aah

tawdry dust
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I thought you were asking how I play her lol

cold cargo
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Perli sub dps on zfy team isnt as viable bcs fangyi is sp hungry

tawdry dust
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Fangyi team

cold cargo
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So she is ideally ww slave

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Ww should be better than obliv

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Deto is conditionally good

supple pollen
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Oblivion is fine gap is like not a real thing for average people in average cases

cold cargo
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true

supple pollen
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Cases where oblivion is strictly better in perfect gameplay are limited but also like building WW for long timelines when the average length of content is a minute

acoustic edge
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For one

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Perli needs to be full invested for obliv to be considerable

crystal sentinel
ripe zephyr
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i did my first 10 pulls on the limited banner to get perlica potentials and then this dragon girl came
is she good? can u guys giv me some of the lineups based on the chars i have

crystal sentinel
lyric sorrel
lyric sorrel
tawdry dust
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Dragon girl - perlica - arclight - antal

rare kettle
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This "dragon girl" is the best dps in the game bwaa

ripe zephyr
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ah oke

acoustic edge
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Atleast in majority of the categories i can think of

ripe zephyr
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should i get last rite on the free selector

ripe zephyr
acoustic edge
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If you like her you can

acoustic edge
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Last rite is like kinda just worse than dragon girl unfortunately

tawdry dust
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Choose anyone, as long as it's a dps imo

ripe zephyr
acoustic edge
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Last rite has decent f2p teams

tawdry dust
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Any skills to up on antal? Other than his ult

acoustic edge
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Benefits a lot from tangtang but last rite xaihi perlica ardelia will do

tawdry dust
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Only ult?

acoustic edge
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Do be aware though that last rite is particularly bad for like progression and day to day

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Cause her whole shtick is long build up into nuke

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For non bosses she feels pretty bad to play imo

rare kettle
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Sounds like skill issue, shes fine for everything

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She just really wants her sig

acoustic edge
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Literally anything is "fine"

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You can beat the game with level 20 catcher

rare kettle
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Okay beat lvl90 nefa with him

undone coral
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lr clears game easy enough
it just feels bad to play cus all you're doing is fs+bs

tawdry dust
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Any skills to up on antal? Other than his ult?

undone coral
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she's never doing any of her fancy tricks with trash mobs

acoustic edge
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She's fine but feels clunkier compared to other dps options yeah

undone coral
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but she lets u feel good ab urself when u dashcancel

acoustic edge
rare kettle
slender spear
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i bet catcher could do it anyways

rare kettle
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Cutiepatootie

crystal sentinel
jagged raven
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Thanks for coming to my ted talk

vague wing
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What would be the best last slot for the team ? πŸ€”

jagged raven
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Antal

vague wing
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Ok thx !

undone coral
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20%*5%=1%
@cold cargo i wna fish w ginseng instead

cold cargo
undone coral
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uh yeah

cold cargo
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I didnt know you were into that stuff

light cosmos
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Bruh working actually sucks I have no time to test rotations

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Or have fun

grand arrow
sacred mica
acoustic edge
jagged raven
vague wing
supple pollen
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Its conditional

acoustic edge
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Would depend on the content you are speedkilling probably lol

supple pollen
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Neither is a true bis
Gilb is more splashable if you will but personal preference beats all

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Same for the other like 6 flex units

vague wing
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Well I'll try both and see what's the best in my eyes then thanks for the help guys

jagged raven
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Gimme some antal slander

acoustic edge
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We have xaihi alternative for electro

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(has half the amp and deto uptime)

undone coral
acoustic edge
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Not cool bro

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WE ALL into fluorite

undone coral
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πŸ’€

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i'm #1 fluo hater

sacred mica
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Speaking abt fluorite... I should recheck that rot i made PerliWheeze

undone coral
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ward off evil

sacred mica
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If only fluorite was a lil better

undone coral
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kanos fish this for me

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my brain's turned into jelly

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consciousness is gone, my entire nervous system is just my hands and my spinal cord now

delicate crane
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Does Arclight have any important mastery breakpoints for SP gain?

cold cargo
undone coral
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even my ipad's lagging

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it's a sign i should slep

supple pollen
junior pier
sacred mica
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I don't wven have him built PerliWheeze

pearl surge
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isn't it means, fish crit flourite

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and become flourite slave, for s1n sake

tardy moon
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fih

silver hemlock
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hey which one should i choose? i alr got ardelia, ember and lifeng, and my current dps is lae and yvonne

sacred mica
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Wasn't there alr sumone maining her?

chrome beacon
pearl surge
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just because someone already maining her, doesnt mean you can't maining her, i mean, i just want to see someone suffer

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for now, save it

sacred mica
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Nah but like

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If i wanna main any op aside from lr or tt

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I'd rather main xaihi

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Fluo aint even my waifu PerliWorried

pearl surge
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then add fluo into xaihi mdps '3')

sacred mica
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Nu uh, she suck XaihiPray

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Well, if xaihi's kit weren't so weird, i'd prolly main op her in my team tbh. It's just kinda annoying how awkward her atk is due to her stat split PerliWheeze

cold cargo
restive egret
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hello, im about to fully invest in tangtang, since should i build her crit? or is the battleskill build enough? ( i have fully invested in yvonne already)

cold cargo
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Wait nvm

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I cant read

restive egret
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thanks

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one more question, what are the breakpoints for xaihi's int? I only have chivalric for her weapon

cold cargo
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There is no breakpoint

junior pier
cold cargo
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There is only you can have more int

sacred mica
restive egret
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wow

cold cargo
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(Max amp is reached at 1.2k and we cannot obtain that much int yet)

restive egret
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thanks

sacred mica
cold cargo
restive egret
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i have gilberta, is it advised that I run full int xaihi ( without set bonus)

cold cargo
sacred mica
cold cargo
sacred mica
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Starry p5 do be kinda inting tho ngl

restive egret
cold cargo
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Wow AleshFish

sacred mica
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Why u be spammin fisherman emote now PerliWorried

cold cargo
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aleshlover25

sacred mica
livid mirage
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How much damage does yvonne do per rotation

drifting narwhal
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Lr is 4m

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Actually that number is old

livid mirage
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Which one yvonne or lr?

drifting narwhal
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But total dmg isn't a good way to measure

livid mirage
drifting narwhal
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Because you can do 2m dmg in 30s vs do 3m dmg in 60s

livid mirage
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So we can compare to zhuang

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They told me zhuang was op
But she barely matches yvonne

rare kettle
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Zhuang wins anyway

drifting narwhal
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Zfy does 5m bro

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It's no where close

livid mirage
rare kettle
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Me, when i press a button and 700k hp disappears

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(I can spam that button)

livid mirage
rare kettle
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Yvonne is worse than lrbwaa

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||this is factual, trust||

livid mirage
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Haters smh

cold cargo
cold cargo
livid mirage
cold cargo
livid mirage
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Are they ranking them on rack size?

rare kettle
lethal tapir
rare kettle
livid mirage
cold cargo
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They were never good tbh

livid mirage
lethal tapir
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All I've ever seen is people crying when their Waifu gets dropped a tier in their imaginary ranking system

cold cargo
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How is wuwa related to akef

livid mirage
lethal tapir
livid mirage
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PerliDerp I see

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Wait, yvonne sucks even with gilberta and tang tang?

lethal tapir
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No

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Yvonne is good with Gil and TangTang, but she needs those 2 to fix a lot of her issues

livid mirage
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She match zhuang with those two?

cold cargo
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Nop

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Guh what are we trying to even achieve here

void fiber
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do I really just pick thermite cutter every time?

livid mirage
cold cargo
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No you didnt game is piss easy

lethal tapir
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Define "match Zhuang" cuz theres no content in the game that can even take advantage of Zhuangs max dps. Yvonne doesnt clear bosses all that much slower than Zhuang, but she doesnt do as much damage.

cold cargo
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There isnt anything that requires any of those units

livid mirage
rare kettle
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Nope
No LR perfect team = reroll account

tardy moon
lethal tapir
cold cargo
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Trying to put units on a 1 dimensional bad - good axis doesnt make sense to me

rare kettle
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Pookie

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Minmax phys harder, you very much can clear all umbral stages with it

lethal tapir
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Like Phys teams can clear endgame content just fine. Isnt there some stupid 28s Nef clear with Da Pan

cold cargo
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28s sounds way too fast

livid mirage
lethal tapir
drifting narwhal
tardy moon
cold cargo
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Yea das what i know as well

tardy moon
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i think whaled phys is at like 35.x excluding cutscene

lethal tapir
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What was that da pan clear then? was it 40 something then?

cold cargo
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Other team just between 30s-40s

lethal tapir
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ahh gotcha

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Still really fast

cold cargo
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Ye

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My lr only able to reach

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40s-41s in game timer at best

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Maybe a full p5p5 can do it faster but das my limit

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Ill try to get the run and send it to hifu

lethal tapir
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Still faster than my p5 Lae lol

cold cargo
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I mean

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They did lae dirty

lethal tapir
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Truly

mellow vine
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whos better for Fangyi, Antal or Gilberta?

drifting narwhal
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I want refund 120 pulls for laev

lethal tapir
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Honestly, if she had a better gear set she wouldnt be half as bad. Its funny that proccing corro does more damage than proccing combustion for Hotworks

tardy moon
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put rossi into her team and continue calling it a laev team

cold cargo
lethal tapir
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I'm making a Lae + TangTang rot right now, trust

tardy moon
drifting narwhal
mellow vine
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I'll use Gil for now

thorny tiger
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Guys is there a "Severe Energy Alluvium: Skydrummer Zone" in Game?

cold cargo
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Not yet

tardy moon
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even whales gave up on laev speedkills YangyangKEKW

lethal tapir
mellow vine
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wait Laev is bad. She feels like my strongest rn

drifting narwhal
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What the hell is skydrummer

tardy moon
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new area enemy probably

cold cargo
thorny tiger
mellow vine
tardy moon
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the fastest laev nef kill i've seen is 0+1, no whale wants to do it

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maybe when an actual support comes out for her

mellow vine
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Like a new heat caster please

cold cargo
thorny tiger
cold cargo
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Np

lethal tapir
cold cargo
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Shoud be 14th may

mellow vine
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wait a min Laev is weaker now to Yvonne and Last Rite? Or is that only with Tangtang

thorny tiger
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I see

lethal tapir
cold cargo
mellow vine
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I dont have her

cold cargo
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Lr and yvonne perform better in bossing, expectedly so. While lae is much more comfortable for overworld/ crowd

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That doesnt mean lae is bad for bossing

lethal tapir
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Lae's issues are that her gear sets suck and her best heat amplifier has no buffs or dmg. If those 2 issues get fixed she'll be on par with the rest of the dps

cold cargo
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She needs better supports to shine

tidal panther
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uhhcat that's just single target vs aoe

mellow vine
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alr thx. Even tho I played in launch I just havent gotten used to some Teambuilding and situation (I use Yvonne with Last Rite bcuz I dont like Alesh)

cold cargo
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Bruh

tardy moon
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lmao

lethal tapir
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lol

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Perlica exists though

mellow vine
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She works with Yvonne?

tardy moon
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the more stars the better

glass ruin
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Its kinda funny how the first limited char of gachas so far do seem to be seen as not as good as the next few releases tho in games they've gotten buffs/changes etc

lethal tapir
tidal panther
mellow vine
lethal tapir
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Well, almost everyone

mellow vine
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damn

cold cargo
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Any arts team

mellow vine
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Maybe, But I wann stick with using Last Rite and Yvonne bcuz I like them both

lethal tapir
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Its actually better if she doesnt match elements with main dps so she can use Stanza

cold cargo
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Both of the current electric dps need perli to work anyway so it doesnt really matter she cant run stanza

grim plinth
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can they please make another perlica

royal lynx
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what's tt gear set and xaihi for vonne team?

mellow vine
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wait whats Perlica's main gear?

livid mirage
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Is gilberta worth getting with 120 pulls

If both my teams don’t need her?

drifting narwhal
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How is that a question PerliStareYou

lethal tapir
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Why pull for someone if both your teams dont need them?

livid mirage
lethal tapir
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Literally nothing is a must pull

livid mirage
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Then easy skip ggs

drifting narwhal
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Tho that banner is really good for new players

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If they have 120 pulls PerliFumo

lethal tapir
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Cant wait to see all the posts of people who pulled without having 120 pulls saved up and didnt get what they wanted before the banner/pity expired

royal lynx
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should I articify Yvonne's teammates gear or just Yvonne? I'm using tt, gilb, xaihi

livid mirage
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I have 120 pulls but what’s in it for me

drifting narwhal
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The selector at 120

lethal tapir
livid mirage
drifting narwhal
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On normal banner if you get the op before 120 then you won't get anything at 120

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Imagine you're like 110 and win the character

lethal tapir
royal lynx
lethal tapir
livid mirage
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Only selector

lethal tapir
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what are you even talking about?

livid mirage
lethal tapir
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You dont lose, there is no losing. There are 4 characters you can pull.

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Only those 4 will show up, and then you get a selector at 120 regardless of who showed up

royal lynx
livid mirage
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I want laev but idk if I want her enuf to do 120

drifting narwhal
lethal tapir
drifting narwhal
livid mirage
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Ehh I just want laev tho
That’s 25% chance

flat panther
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u'll win on 120 so aint hurt at all

livid mirage
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I don’t need gilberta

lethal tapir
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Yea, but you can guarantee her at 120, even if you get her p0 at 80.

drifting narwhal
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But you'd stop at 80

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It's sunk cost fallacy situation again

lethal tapir
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Well, i'm just saying its possible

livid mirage
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Problem is
On normal banners you go like 70 and get the char
In here you go 120

flat panther
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well if u want to pull that banner

livid mirage
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If the banner didn’t have pog and ardelia itd be a must pull

lethal tapir
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Depends on if you want the p1 or not, you could even spend 40 pull for Gil at that point. Or you could just stop pulling and be happy with your Lae at 80

flat panther
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better go for 140, after 120 self-pick u can do another 20 for another 6* op

livid mirage
flat panther
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in case u dont get 6* OP early

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one of the 4 OP at 80

livid mirage
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80 80?

flat panther
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consider u get 6* by 70 pulls

livid mirage
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You mean soft pity?

lethal tapir
livid mirage
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So 140 for 3 units

flat panther
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yes

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since 120 guarantee doesnt eats away 6* guarantee

livid mirage
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Big gamble tho
If you lose twice
You got 2 standard banner chars ggs

lethal tapir
flat panther
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it feels bad to get your 6* guarantee eaten by the 120 pity

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basically 70+50 (gets reset after u hit 120 for featured)

livid mirage
drifting narwhal
lethal tapir
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Honestly I don’t have a lot of complaints about akef’s gacha system, but it feels pretty bad when you’re at 110 pity on the rate up guarantee, and 70 pity on the 6 star guarantee. If you lose you’re guaranteed a double 10 pull, but if you win, so long guarantee you’re back to 0 pity.

flat panther
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chartered banners pity consider bad, unless the 120 guarantee doesnt ate the 6* pity

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other than that is fine

drifting narwhal
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They should make it like in og ak

lethal tapir
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Or tickets or w.e

drifting narwhal
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No the solo banner guarantee

lethal tapir
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Oh, that’s the same as the token guarantee at 240 right?

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You get the tokens but it doesn’t reset pity. Only whales get that privilege in akef

flat panther
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ya

lethal tapir
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lol

flat panther
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basically u get token but doesnt reset 6* pity

drifting narwhal
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After 150 pulls (if im not wrong) without getting the solo rate up, next 6* will be that character

flat panther
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man imagine endfield getting dupes doesnt give u token instead it works like 120 pity but double it

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i would never whale on that

lethal tapir
drifting narwhal
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Or was it 120

livid mirage
#

What’s the point of Ardelia gang?
Anyone even use her?

flat panther
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ardelia either p1 or p5

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the rest are arse

drifting narwhal
livid mirage
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And zhuang team is flexible

flat panther
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nah

lethal tapir
flat panther
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rossi the most flexible

lethal tapir
livid mirage
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No like
Zhuang 4th slot is like
β€œUse what you got”

lethal tapir
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Just cuz you don’t =/= it’s not possible

livid mirage
lethal tapir
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I think the last debut banner I pulled for was Vina, and then I regretted it so now everything is saved for limited banners

drifting narwhal
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I think they added it after some guy whaled so bad on phantom and didn't get him

lethal tapir
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Lmao rip

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Yes I remember it used to be pretty bad back in the day. No guarantee outside of limited banners and even then you needed 300 pulls to spark what you wanted.

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They’ve changed a lot over the last few years, lots of good changes

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Now if you put 300 pulls into a limited banner you get 2 sparks, 1 for the banner unit and one for whichever limited unit you want that’s part of the current selection

drifting narwhal
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True

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And some old limiteds also get discounted for 200 spark

flat panther
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still lots of pulls tbh

livid mirage
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Guys what’s the point of ardelia if antal is the meta

flat panther
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corrosion

livid mirage
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It’s either antal or Gilberta everywhere

livid mirage
winged mesa
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ardel works really nicely in laev extended rotation teams

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corrosion procs laev cs

cold cargo
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Ardel also works well for tangless lr teams

jagged raven
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I use ardelia because I like her, who cares abt synergy

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This is agendafield

winged mesa
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ardel can also work for zhuang though you do have to be a bit more mindful about stack management and sp consumption

flat panther
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ya know, most of the speedrunners use ardel

winged mesa
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she has really well healing

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for handless players ardel is pretty much godsent

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good debuff, strong weapon, xiranite holder, nice healing

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antal doesnt work outside of elec and heat teams

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albeit it is pretty much the current popularly strong teams which is why we are seeing a lot of antal usage

livid mirage
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Ice? Gilberta is needed

winged mesa
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antal cs has a 25s cd, det unit lasts for like 15s

winged mesa
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gilberta is preferred, lr works just as fine with ardel

livid mirage
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Ehh

winged mesa
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idk about yvonne ardel though

sacred mica
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The best lr tt team don't even run gil

winged mesa
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the burst lr team does

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the general lr team doesnt run gil

sacred mica
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The speedkill does

livid mirage
sacred mica
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Well i guess best wasn't the best representation of it, mb

winged mesa
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no she functions well with just tangtang

sacred mica
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I meant the most used lr tt team

winged mesa
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one could say xaihi perlica alesh is a somewhat ok yvonne team tbh

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stronger buffs here and there yeah some units are more preferred

livid mirage
winged mesa
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it doesnt mean we have to dismiss an entire 28% susceptibility that you can get anytime of the game

livid mirage
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Yvonne is so bad without those units

winged mesa
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you cant even get gilberta right now

livid mirage
winged mesa
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ok but can you right now?

brave hinge
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hey i am completely new, anyone can help me with my first team (i come from hoyogames)

winged mesa
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dismissing an entire unit that provides 20(28)% susceptibility for 25s just because we have a slightly better buff that lasts for 5s where the entire game wants us to play burst team is just, honestly sounds crazy to me

brave hinge
winged mesa
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i mean for gods sake we have ember and we have seen a shit ton of glazers

sacred mica
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Screenshot of chara u have @brave hinge

flat panther
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well ardelia is pretty good on p1 just so ya know

brave hinge
winged mesa
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pretty good is an understatement

flat panther
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great

winged mesa
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p1 makes her really good for sustained dps, sadly everyone just wants to see 3 yvonillion damage

flat panther
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yeah u need at least p1

sacred mica
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Ardelia is usable and good. The best pt abt her is her flexibility as in even tho she's not gonna be bis most of the time, she has enuf utility to justify her use compared to other shit pick.

winged mesa
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who cares about 500k60 if you can deal 30million1, the screenshot matters more apparently

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fucking discord formatting bruh

livid mirage
sacred mica
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I mean, problem w ardelia rn is moreso cos many team just want more sp for their dpses while ardelia want sp for herself, which u technically don't even need to do.

flat panther
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tho p0 still usable but p1 got higher value

winged mesa
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antal is 10% susc with 24% amp

sacred mica
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Scuse me? ChenLeak

winged mesa
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it does give bigger number but the amp has lower uptime

brave hinge
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@sacred mica

winged mesa
sacred mica
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Oh i thought u meant ardel as the sustain dps ICANT

flat panther
winged mesa
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πŸ—Ώ

sacred mica
#

I was so confused

livid mirage
brave hinge
flat panther
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also thank god i got ardel p1 so i can pull off gil-less speedrun

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also if u feel fancy u can run both of em even

winged mesa
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ardel has a better managed uptime with it only being ebs to consume corrosion

while antal requires ult to get the 24%

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and ardel is also both phys and arts susceptibility so she works quite universally*, antal is limited to electric and heat unless you make him as a stacker/stanzabot

livid mirage
winged mesa
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36.4% and 28% is... quite big

livid mirage
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Also doesn’t her sig do 16% amp

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For 25secs

winged mesa
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i only account for kit

ebon star
#

Hey where can i see fangyi team builds with gears?

livid mirage
winged mesa
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antal has det unit which is a unique multiplier separate from susc and amp

flat panther
livid mirage
winged mesa
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its currently getting late for me so imma dip

flat panther
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well since ure new so perlica count as subdps ig

winged mesa
flat panther
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ardelia with sig ofc

sacred mica
livid mirage
sacred mica
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If u wanna use ard, don't be a pussy and make it into reality PerliOK

flat panther
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rmb, catas always a goat purple gear

livid mirage
livid mirage
flat panther
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just keep progressing ig?

sacred mica
flat panther
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i even use catas gear on endmin for my rossi speedrun nefarith

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i freakin love stew

sinful schooner
#

Road to 10k ATK lifeng. Klee_Derp

brave hinge
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and this guy?

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i change my team?

rare kettle
#

U dont

brave hinge
cosmic plume
rare kettle
#

Thats p5

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Its striker broICANT

sonic imp
#

we have to assume Striker always has P5P5

undone hatch
#

what should i get for fangyi

sonic imp
light cosmos
sonic imp
#

hopefully you use her sig

light cosmos
#

Hopefully they aren’t going to waste the only 1 of those on a backup weap PerliWheeze

undone hatch
#

her weapon

light cosmos
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Will attack suppression

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I thinks

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You can always go to the weapon and look at its stats

sonic imp
#

Then, match it up with multi-line engraving kit

undone hatch
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will atk sup

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alr tysm

sonic imp
light cosmos
waxen lava
#

Does this work for zhuang? Arclight doesn't seem to regenerate sp ? Maybe im getting the rotation wrong?

waxen ravine
# light cosmos

Press f8 then go to the alluvium section it alr tells you what essences you can get

waxen lava
lethal tapir
weary hinge
#

for lr tt, is the recommend xai kits the uge str will xira ones?

lethal tapir
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It’s not a really noticeable amount, but it is there

weary hinge
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per

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yea

cold cargo
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int main uge tubes ye

weary hinge
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ye ye, i was looking at sheet and i was like wait these shits look the same lol so i had to make sure

cold cargo
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the other tube

weary hinge
#

ty

cold cargo
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medicine efficiency

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so it is useless ICANT

weary hinge
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yeah lol

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i had a strong feeling the stat matching doesnt matter in the slightest vs uge but i dont play this comp so better safe than sorry

cold cargo
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arm is bad bcs it isnt int main

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T1 tube bad because treatment eff

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only choice is int str uge

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2nd stat doesnt matter cuz all xaihi wants is int and uge anyway

weary hinge
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ya

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and for lr armor, if it's just pure speed, is 2nd set rly that much better?

cold cargo
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depend on rot tbh

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but imo yes

weary hinge
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gotcha

cold cargo
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in my lr runs

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i dont use anything other than lr cs anyway

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for rhod and nefar

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(i can get away with not using ult bcs p3p3 lr)

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otherwise radars might actually do more dmg

weary hinge
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i have 51

cold cargo
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catalyst ?

weary hinge
#

no i mean

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p5p1

cold cargo
#

oh

weary hinge
cold cargo
#

totally not envious

weary hinge
#

the game hooked me up

cold cargo
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the game fucked me up

weary hinge
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with two lr during zf pulls

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and i had the dossier

cold cargo
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ye if ur p3+ you can use knives

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i use this set for rhod dorito and nefar

weary hinge
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why is 2nd set, well, considered the 2nd set if it's that much better

cold cargo
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i also use it for marble but idk if it performs better or not

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niche

weary hinge
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is 2nd set bad for no ult?

cold cargo
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speedkill oriented

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other set deal more balanced dmg

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you are loading all your dmg into lr cs with the set im using

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while saccing other skill dmg

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tide surge has matching stat

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while yinglung kits have no good stats for lr

weary hinge
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ah i see

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so it's specifically for stacking everything onto cs for one big hit then

cold cargo
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ye basically

weary hinge
#

understood

cold cargo
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frontload all your dmg to skip long aah ult animation

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also good for dorito phase2 skip but.. you can do dat shit with tide anyway / tangtang made it easier regardless

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rn im working on a 40-41s lr nefar kill

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trying to 1cs per phase

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and skip ult

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with critfishing ICANT

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ult add like 4s to the run

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you can check out some of s.lns rots for rhod if you want to give lr a test ride

weary hinge
#

gotcha

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ig ill actually just build 2nd set then

cold cargo
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if you plan to speedkill sure

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id recommend it for that

weary hinge
#

how relevant does her bs end up being?

cold cargo
#

lrs ?

weary hinge
#

yea

cold cargo
#

dmg wise not really, but we do slap some in between to add cryo stacks

weary hinge
#

gotcha

cold cargo
#

for xaihi you want to fs twice anyway

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you can just apply cryo while doing so with lr bs

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mastery isnt really needed for bs, she can do just fine with m3 cs + ult

weary hinge
#

who should i be on while in overworld

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tt?

cold cargo
#

beyblade kill all fodder

weary hinge
#

ig

cold cargo
#

tt is fine as co

weary hinge
#

guess i worded that badly, was more asking like, should i be on tt for faster fs

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and just swapping if i know i have to bs

cold cargo
#

for overworld ?

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it doesnt really matter imo

weary hinge
#

for speedkills

cold cargo
#

oh

weary hinge
#

ig ill just watch someone's run

cold cargo
#

changes from rot to rot

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generally you want atleast 1 fs on lr to get 20% amp from xaihi bs

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you can do either xaihi co for faster fs, or tt co for 20% on tt as well

waxen ravine
cold cargo
#

not all rot need fs on tt

#

p3+ lr ICANT

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will do enuf damage for rhod anyway

cold cargo
#

s.lns 17s rhod rot uses lr fs opener into xaihi co for faster fs

weary hinge
#

right, that's a thing

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this team is sheist

cold cargo
#

my nefar rot do need the 20% amp on tt tho for example

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depends on rot if you need the 20% amp on tt

waxen ravine
#

Thinking ... my mortal enemy

#

It's why I like phys
Max breach max crush rot and if they die in between so be it

weary hinge
#

first team i wanted to build was cryo but i tried avywenna out and i was like

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damn.

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this is the one.

fathom stratus
#

i'm a bit noob with rotations, if i start with Gilberta BS and then Akekuri BS, the first skill will consume the second.
how to play against mobs when farming essences?

tidal panther
#

huh

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Akekuri BS is wild

weary hinge
#

@cold cargo which knife is it for LR, the str + all skills, or the one with 41 cs?

cold cargo
#

cs dmg

weary hinge
#

gotcha

mellow eagle
#

is there a team with wulfgard and pogranichnik I can use?

sonic imp
sonic imp
fathom stratus
#

S = ?

sonic imp
#

Final Strike, the last sequence of basic attack