team-build

[lethal tapir]

Yes

[lethal tapir]

Glowing hairpiece and highlights

[shy socket]

HOLY LUCK

Or holy whale

[lethal tapir]

lol you assume luck, but the reality is probably whel

[cold cargo]

About 27

[lethal tapir]

said the p5 Zhuang owner

[shy socket]

Yeah i know

[grand arrow]

we got p5 in 6 pulls trust

[lethal tapir]

lol bet

[shy socket]

We?

[lethal tapir]

Him and his split personality dont ask questions

[grand arrow]

kreative got p5 too

[shy socket]

Oh, ok

[lethal tapir]

lol

I actually did get really lucky with her weapon though, p5 in 180 pulls

[shy socket]

WHAT?!?!

You fr have her weapon p5?

[shy socket]

Bruh

[lethal tapir]

Clown is close to 180 pulls and still p0 im pretty sure 💀

Thats the average luck to expect tbh, my Lae took 260 to get p3

[shy socket]

Dude, can you answer me a question?

[lethal tapir]

what is it?

[shy socket]

How do you afford to be a whale

[lethal tapir]

Get a job

then get injured on the job

lol

dont actually do that though

[shy socket]

Dude, from where im from you could have 3 jobs and still not be like you

[shy socket]

Oh

That could work🤔

[lethal tapir]

Well, Canada's economy is pretty good. Also its mostly my disability pension that goes to Gacha games. I get $600 a month on top of my regular paychecks because i can't lift my right arm above my shoulder anymore.

It used to go to car payments, but my car is payed off now so it goes to games lol

Ironically, $600 is about what Fangyi cost me

[shy socket]

Really? I thought it would be more

[grand arrow]

600 canadian rupees for p5p5 is pretty good (spending 600 is generally not good but yk what i mean )

[lethal tapir]

I got decently lucky, top 50% of p5 luck apparently getting her in less than 480

and then her weapon luck is prob top 1% or some shit

[shy socket]

Oh, and you use those 3rd party sites that give you discounted shop items?

[lethal tapir]

No, but i do pretend to be japanese

[grand arrow]

ayy sem

[shy socket]

What?

[lethal tapir]

lol

i think its against the terms and services to explitely tell you how to do it

of the discord

i said it once and people flamed me lol

[vernal dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/creature-arknights-chen-arknights-gif-11133356797930999556

[shy socket]

No like, i dont understand what do you mean pretending to be japanese

[grand arrow]

you used to either pretend to be brazilian or japanese but now its just jap

[vernal dagger]

a weeb

[shy socket]

And what does that get you?

[lethal tapir]

Just think about what you'd need to do to make the internet think your computer is japanese

that's all i'll say

[shy socket]

But how does that help you???

Im really lost here

[lethal tapir]

*shrugs*

[grand arrow]

we can't say more without our lawyers present

[shy socket]

I feel you

[lethal tapir]

how do you think those 3rd party sites get currency so cheap?

[shy socket]

I honestly have no idea

[grand arrow]

do that but DIY

[lethal tapir]

In game prices are adjusted by region

and conversion rates apply

[shy socket]

Oh, so brazilian prices are lower too?

[lethal tapir]

Yea cuz their economy sucks

[shy socket]

Dude, i got the better prices, and its still impossible to get anything good (<-- fr brasilian)

[lethal tapir]

Well then i think youre just screwed

[shy socket]

As i said, you need like 3 jobs here to be a whale

[lethal tapir]

In Brazil

[shy socket]

Ye

Minimum wage is 1600 a month

Dollar to real is 1 to 6~

So your 600 dollars would be 3600

[lethal tapir]

Thats not bad, but im sure things must be expensive. In canada minimum wage is garbage too, people on disability get like 1000 a month and told that they can applly for medically assisted death if it gets too hard

[shy socket]

1600 X 3 is 4800

Yeah, but you cant live with less than like 2 minimum wages here

[grand arrow]

maid is crazy

[shy socket]

And im talking like full on misery life

[raven badger]

Which really defeats the purpose of minimum wage

[shy socket]

Yeah

You need 5 minimum wages to be a whale and live

[lethal tapir]

Don't tell your employers that though or youre next to get laid off.

[shy socket]

Unreal living standards

[lethal tapir]

I'd say "just move" but i know thats a bad joke when you live in Brazil lol

[orchid solstice]

Just rice to eat?

[raven badger]

The fact that it is still happening is bc they will fire you for saying it

[orchid solstice]

What even is the cheapest foodstuff over there?

[lethal tapir]

"easier said than done" right. Hard to move anywhere when you need 3x your monthly wage just to pay a months rent anywhere else.

[shy socket]

Dude, its not even that bad, People like to exagerate a lot, but its the best south american country by far

[orchid solstice]

Uruguay exists

[shy socket]

Rice and beans

[shy socket]

Its still better

[orchid solstice]

Chile also seems nice TBH

[lethal tapir]

Yea exactly, and Unions get shut down by the government with propaganda spread about how exploitive they are or what not, when theyre the only ones who'd protect us from this stuff lol

[hybrid meteor]

Ayo the combo dmg set on avywenna is nice

[shy socket]

Yeah, but brazil most likely has a better economy, its like the biggest exporter of agricultural goods in the world

[lethal tapir]

If it had a better economy you wouldn’t need 2-3 minimum wage jobs to survive with the lowest price adjustment on mobile games

Unfortunately

[orchid solstice]

With a considerably larger population and better land

[shy socket]

Yeah, but its still the best economy in south america

[orchid solstice]

The biggest perhaps, but I think everyone had you beat on GDP per capita except like Bolivia and Paraguay

[shy socket]

Oh yeah, that too, brazil is like, one of the best places in the world geografically speaking

[orchid solstice]

And Venezuela

[lethal tapir]

Yea I guess, tbh I don’t know much of other South American economies. I live the furthest north so the further south you go the less knowledge I have.

[orchid solstice]

I think Peru and Colombia are also in the shitter

So really, Uruguay and Chile have you beat

[shy socket]

Brazil has the biggest gdp of south america

[supple pollen]

only the most relevant of conversations as always

[orchid solstice]

GDP total. GDP per capita is different.

[orchid solstice]

All you have to know is that Argentina is a dumpster fire

Mostly due to a president mainlining libertarianism

[shy socket]

Whats the difference?

[hybrid meteor]

Ayo

Where’s the avywenna support builds

[red yacht]

what is last rites signature weapon?

[shy socket]

Obviously

[shy socket]

The big ice sword

[vague jacinth]

greatsword

[cold cargo]

Khravengger

[shy socket]

The kravengefsjdvydkwn

[shy socket]

Yes that

[orchid solstice]

GDP per capita is the individual citizen’s contribution to the economy which includes their salary. The total GDP is that of every citizen summarized. So a country with a lot of people can have a higher total GDP despite the individual citizens being poorer than those of a country with a smaller total GDP:

[shy socket]

Oh yeah, then brazil loses

[drifting narwhal]

What is this economy talk

[supple pollen]

relevant talk

fuck the people asking questions of course

[shy socket]

We are comparing how easy it is to be a whale

[shy socket]

Chill dude

[supple pollen]

youre good i dont care

[drifting narwhal]

Meanwhile me skipping breakfast to fund my monthly pass

[supple pollen]

i just find it funny

[shy socket]

Thats what im talking about, these prices are insane!

I dont know about other countries, but here i would spend double The money I do spend if i the prices were a little better

[drifting narwhal]

Well it's more because in unemployed than because of the price

[lethal tapir]

lol

[shy socket]

Yeah, me too

But theyre still insane

[lethal tapir]

Just get a job and get injured on the job, then you can be unemployed and whale (dont do this it hurts)

[drifting narwhal]

That works?

[lethal tapir]

Well, thats how i'm surviving

[drifting narwhal]

Oh fuck sorry i laughed

[shy socket]

Kinda

[drifting narwhal]

[lethal tapir]

wcb is paying for my school starting next week, they pay 75% of my monthly wages tax free which is basically what i used to make, and i still get my $600 a month disability pension because the payout was like 250k but paid out monthly till im 65

but the payment was i'll never be able to use my right arm the same again and my back is perma fucked

so not worth it

also my right arm is my dominant arm

[shy socket]

Thats rought

Or, however you write that word

[wet moat]

if its low level work, yeah no, fired lmao

[lethal tapir]

Well yea i guess, they tried to just fire me too but i went to wcb and fought it and won

know your rights

i didnt fight it the first time i fucked my shoulder and waited 5 years till it was permanently disabled before they paid for my surgery to "fix it". I know now to fight for my rights when injured, nobody else will fight for you.

[sinful schooner]

19 level 90 characters now I guess I start building Alesh tomorrow?

[cold cargo]

aleshlover25

[shy socket]

No avywenna lvl 90?

I just saw the all the p5 6stars

[lethal tapir]

Why level 9?

[shy socket]

My god

[shy socket]

Probably bc of daily missions

[lethal tapir]

Oh yea i forgot you get exp from playing the unit

[royal lynx]

how do I do vonne rotation with tt? I've just been spamming buttons

[wet moat]

essence farming with lvl 1 op lol

[sinful schooner]

Will get to her eventually. Just not on the priority list since I have Fangyi maxed out.

[sinful schooner]

Correct.

[shy socket]

Ye, but shes one of the most fun characters in the game to play

Not that strong, but very fun

[lethal tapir]

Thats like, your opinion dude.

[wet moat]

avy when boss cant be stagger

[shy socket]

Yeah, but ive heard some youtubers say that too

[tardy moon]

rip perlica

[wet moat]

oh yeah no finisher lol

[shy socket]

Hey, shouldnt we call the cryo guy to answer HE WHO WAS ABANDONED?

[tardy moon]

i'm going to combomaxx my xaihi and use her to clear ruan yi frfr

[wet moat]

*insert joycat 1.7m perlica finisher

[sinful schooner]

I think if I had my own priority list of the remaining characters I have to build. Alesh > Estella > Avywenna > Flourite > Snowshine > Trash panda.

[shy socket]

Ok, whats your team?

[tardy moon]

@undone coral come back

[shy socket]

Yeah, that guy

[lethal tapir]

What pot TT, p0 or p1?

I have a rot for both

[royal lynx]

vonne, tt, gilb, xaihi

[royal lynx]

p0

[shy socket]

Holy 6stars

I cant help, dont know anything about cryo

[lethal tapir]

Here is her p0 rot I'll write it out in a sec

[wet moat]

u can swap to tt 1st

so both tt n yvonne get xaihi bs

[shy socket]

After that can you give the p1 rotation?
I tried to get zhuang p1 and ended up getting tangtang

[buoyant geyser]

yeah, if you could do one for p1, that would be great

[lethal tapir]

Xaihi BS (Prep) > Yvonne basic x4 > TT BS+ CS > FS > Xaihi Ult > Yvonne BS > FS > Yvonne Ult > Yvonne + Gil CS > Pew pew till spin > Gil ult > Xaihi CS > TangTang CS > TangTang ult > TangTang BS > Pew Pew till Yvonne ult almost runs out > Dive > Yvonne BS + dash cancel > EFS

Also like hnaf said, if you start with TangTang for the first basic attack string, then swap to Yvonne before Xaihi's ult, you can get Xaihi's amp on both of them for more damage. I'd learn the rot without character swaps before trying that though.

[lethal tapir]

Ill get you just a sec

[shy socket]

Yeah no, character swaping is too much for me

[royal lynx]

how do I know if Yvonnes ult is about to finish?

[sinful schooner]

It's nice that was have a game where you aren't required to character swap at least.

Although Yvonne & some other characters forcing it is a bit sad.

[wet moat]

theres should be white bar thing above ur sp

dats indicate ulti timer

[shy socket]

Does anybody know if ardelia can do anything?
I got her 3 times already (p2)

[sinful schooner]

I really hope Mifu is either a heat or Electric support, I'd take a buff for Rossi / Leavatain or a buff for Fangyi at this point.

[wet moat]

do any in what?

[lethal tapir]

This

[shy socket]

Is there any team where she is an optimal option?

[wet moat]

lr surtr

ardel there when u dont have ange

[shy socket]

I agree with the rossi part, but i think fangyi is already really good

[shy socket]

Ange?

[sinful schooner]

Fangyi's team I actually think is a little weaker than Rossi's team rn. But I'm playing at higher investment than most.

[wet moat]

gilberta

[shy socket]

So she is still worse than gilberta?

[sinful schooner]

Main thing holding Ardelia down is you need an extra 100 SP in your comp to use her.

[shy socket]

Whats your rossi team?

[lethal tapir]

KK so the rot i have for p1 TT cuz of the shorter cooldown is (Xaihi BS prep > Basic attack 1-4 before Rho jumps > TT BS + CS > FS > Xaihi Ult > Yvonne BS > FS > Yvonne + Gil CS > Yvonne Ult > Pew pew till Xaihi's cs is at the spot in the picture behind the black circle > Xaihi CS > TT CS > Gil Ult when Yvonne spins > TT BS > TT ult > pew pew till Yvonnes ult is almost out > Dive > BS > FS) The difference is this rot lets you use Xaihi's cs before Gil's ult to proc corrosion for more damage. Also you can use Yvonne and Gil's CS before or after Yvonnes ult , i just used them before in this vid which is why the rot is written differently there.

[lethal tapir]

again, you can start with TT for more dmg on her if you want, but its not really needed

[shy socket]

Thx so much kreative, ima save that

[shy socket]

Thx you too

[sage dome]

wait, am i the only one who's having unusual high ping on both discord and endfield?

[sinful schooner]

I think a large portion of why Rossi is better than Fangyi at high investment to be fair though is there's 3 limited characters in Rossi's team that all have good synergy with her. Fangyi only has Gilberta really for her team & even then the synergy is only partially good.

[buoyant geyser]

what's that weapon on gilb

[sinful schooner]

So it's not the individual characters strength as such, more the makeup of the teams.

[sage dome]

deliv p5

[shy socket]

Her signature p5

[shy socket]

K

[buoyant geyser]

[shy socket]

Look at this tokyo

Dude is LOADED

[buoyant geyser]

what's an alternative for her sig in your team

oops wrromg prrson

[shy socket]

I dont know, but i use teh stanza of memorials

[buoyant geyser]

ye, i have like 5 max

[shy socket]

Bc its very f2p friendly and has a good support skill

[buoyant geyser]

@sinful schooner alternative for gilb sig in the rossi arts team?

[buoyant geyser]

they are using stanza with perlica

[shy socket]

But if ur using her battle skill the opus etch figure is good too

I think its a battle pass weapon

[sinful schooner]

Well you can give either her or Perlica stanza, but there's not another good buff weapon that has synergy with the teams rotation. So you kind of need it if you want two buffs active sadly.

[lethal tapir]

Who uses Gil’s bs lol

Just give Gil stanza and Perly oblivion or something

[shy socket]

Doesnt the detonation unit work for perlica?

[lethal tapir]

Not in that team

[shy socket]

Oblivion is for perlicas dps

[lethal tapir]

She’d need to use 2 bs in a row to proc it

[lethal tapir]

Yes but there’s no better option

[sinful schooner]

Not enough SP & not a good use of SP either so nope sadly.

[shy socket]

If you want her as just an enabler you should probably use detonation unit

[lethal tapir]

Did you not read what we just said lol?

[worthy wing]

chat i finally got her what should i build her with

[shy socket]

Ur f2p?

[lethal tapir]

#salt-mine-gacha-flex

[undone coral]

what'd i miss

[worthy wing]

yes but i got (un)lucky losing 2 50/50s before the guarantee and got the sig

[undone coral]

oh kreativetimes danke for taking the cryo Q lol

[shy socket]

Jesus, sorry for you, build fangyi, arclight, perlica and gilberta/ alesh

[lethal tapir]

Np you weren’t around and I don’t like tagging people unless I’ve seen them recently, esp when i can answer the question myself

[hybrid meteor]

Where’s the Avywenna support builds

[worthy wing]

is antal not needed? ive seen some ppl use antal instead of gilberta, also for arclight is the 5 star twelve questions her bis or what should i use?

[shy socket]

Antal and gilberta are for more damage, alesh is for confort

Tbh the 4rth slot is very customizable

Or however you write that word

[lethal tapir]

It’s mostly up to preference tbh, but personally I’d imagine most people using Antal over Gil is cuz they don’t have her

[worthy wing]

ive basically been trying to get everything for fangyi set before i got her. this is pretty much all i need right? i have one more xiranflow baton but ppl seem to prefer slab over it

[shy socket]

Use either edge of lightness or thermite cutter

[worthy wing]

ok thanks and for perlicas set, ive got the qingbo stockade one but do i really need to artifice it i can just run it normally right

[lethal tapir]

It’s thermite cutter or OBJ for Arclight

[shy socket]

If you wnat her as just an sp generator

[lethal tapir]

You don’t need to artifice Qingbo on Perli. AI doesn’t matter as much in Zhuang teams since she consumes the electrification right away anyways.

[shy socket]

I use two batons bc of the battle skill damage

[lethal tapir]

Don’t, slab is way better.

[worthy wing]

cuz i have two batons artificed, i just wanna know if i should artifice slab too

[lethal tapir]

If you wanna use 2 batons that’s fine, but don’t recommend it over slab.

[lethal tapir]

You should

[shy socket]

Dude, you dont need to artifice anything in the whole game

[wet moat]

????

[lethal tapir]

That’s kinda bad advice, you don’t “need” to do a lot of things, that doesn’t mean you should avoid all of them entirely.

[wet moat]

team with uge threshold

[lethal tapir]

Esp since people generally come here when they want meta advice

[supple pollen]

'you dont need to do something' does not equate to 'you should not do this thing'

[shy socket]

Yes, but i think that gear artificing is really extra, like, its kinda hard to artifice the latest sets and the buff arent even that big

[flint thorn]

they arent insignificant

[supple pollen]

its no harder to artifice new stuff than the old stuff

[lethal tapir]

Have you played other gacha games before? Just curious. To me the gearing system in AKEF is the easiest in the world when compared to farming RNG stats and then RNG upgrades that may never come.

[shy socket]

I didnt said insignificant

[hybrid meteor]

Evb talking past each other rn

[shy socket]

The hetonite components are a pain to get

[sinful schooner]

Battle skill damage is an extremely saturated stat if you have sig & one off-piece. Better to go slab so you can more evenly distribute your damage & avoid stat saturation.

[supple pollen]

you only need 50 per piece and then you can use xiranite or cuprium for artificing

[lethal tapir]

You don’t need hetonite components to artifice…

[shy socket]

Oh, ok

[shy socket]

Is that true?

[worthy wing]

you artifice with hetonite equpment? 💀 gangy

just use the xiranite ones bro

[wet moat]

xira comp n cuprium comp enough as gear fodder

[shy socket]

Dude im learning the whole game by myself

[worthy wing]

i would NOT have artificed my stuff fully if i was artificing with hetonnite

[worthy wing]

you can pretty much artifice all the new gear with old gear

[shy socket]

Oh, than that males MUCH more sense

[worthy wing]

just look for the matching attributes with the filter

[flint thorn]

funnily enough, it was a mistake i made at the start too so i cant laugh at you

[shy socket]

Then do that, artifice everything

[grand arrow]

Will is 1 away from chinese lucky number hg why you do this

[shy socket]

Ive played a little genshin when it launched, but i did played like 700 hours of the division 2, wich has a very similar mechanic

[flint thorn]

Anyways time for my question

For Physical Chen, Pog, Dapan, Lifeng, what should be the best weapons for them?

[worthy wing]

for mastery fangyi i focus on bs and ult first?

[supple pollen]

GM, Thermite Cutter, Exemplar, Mountain Bearer

[shy socket]

No idea, but probably sig

[wet moat]

gm, thermite, exemplar, valiant/mb

[flint thorn]

uh gm being

[supple pollen]

glorious memory

rossi bp weapon

[wet moat]

rossie bp weap

[shy socket]

Well, im off to artifice EVERYTHING

[grand arrow]

Never rest is on fraud watch 💀

[worthy wing]

ggs man hope u have enuff artificng currency thing, my problem now is im almost out trying to artifice fangyis gear lmao

[flint thorn]

good thing i bought all BP till now and never used any selectors

[supple pollen]

worse buff than thermite

[grand arrow]

Should be called never use

[wet moat]

main issue is NR give dmg instead atk buff

[supple pollen]

its not that far behind all things considered

[sinful schooner]

Pretty much you only really need about 8k of this stuff. I made way more than I should have as it's quite a poor component to use for anything but base gear.

[wet moat]

also thermite free lol

[supple pollen]

future units who have less in kit / gear damage% would want NR more

[wet moat]

[worthy wing]

i stopped at 2k lol

[flint thorn]

fuck me exemplar and valiant/mountain bearer are all 6* weapons

how do i get those

[wet moat]

dapan can cope with carnal
lifeng can cope with chimeric

[supple pollen]

weekly rotation, banner off rates, etc

[royal comet]

Omg someone else who has +15k of these

[supple pollen]

Valiant ||is purchaseable May 22nd||

[flint thorn]

with the atrocious weapon gacha currencies i would rather save every bit of it for future bis

[wet moat]

[supple pollen]

2k for a good non sig is worth it

[wet moat]

then just slap chimeric lifeng

u can technically go with endmin instead for 1dollar gv

[supple pollen]

pray 1.3+ has a polearm unit with a generic bp choice i guess

[wet moat]

if polearm, dat mean the lancer ga shinda op

[flint thorn]

heat support mi fu with polearm cope

[royal comet]

Fate enjoyer spotted

[flint thorn]

kono hito de nashi

[cold cargo]

1.3 gonna be the polearm + claymore patch

[worthy wing]

guys whats the basic rotation for fangyi/arc/perli/gilberta? do i focuson raising the sunderblades first before i ult

[royal comet]

Would yall believe me if the first thing i watched from fate was carnival phantasm

[flint thorn]

i recall one of the leaks mentioned suzuran reconvener
as much as i would like it
how would hg animate 9 fluffy tails lol

[sinful schooner]

I need to start artficing Lifeng sig soon. I'm interested to know how strong he gets at P5-P5. He seems like a character that should have a very high ceiling due to the quad stat scaling in his kit. Has any CN player been mental enough to P5-P5 him yet an do a showcase?

[wet moat]

39s nefar monopysical featuring yinglung lifeng

[supple pollen]

15k attack lifeng

[worthy wing]

Breaking News: twink wielding polearm decimates nefarith in 30 seconds

[flint thorn]

i hate that it took me 4 seconds to get its nerfarith and not nefar

[sinful schooner]

I think I'll stop building level 90 characters once I get to 20 of them. An start building up all the artificing & weapon essences on PHY team.

I kind of wanted to max every single character to 90 first but it seems a bit pointless.

[wet moat]

btw shuo, does dark lung even works on dapan?

[lethal tapir]

Does anybody know what the fastest Lae clear is on Nef, without Rossi preferably

[flint thorn]

hold the fuck up
i have a 6* weapon selector which has exemplar

i dont even recall having this lmao

[wet moat]

dats thermite crate

unless u pull weapon banner crate

[supple pollen]

cant proc arts burst so no

[wet moat]

oh yeah need arts burst

[undone coral]

what, were u looking at the uge

[undone coral]

what'd pan even do with that

[wet moat]

ye lol

[undone coral]

stackbot

[wet moat]

oh, dats deto crate lol

[flint thorn]

do i go for it

[grand arrow]

Lowk wanna try lae/rossi team (unfortunately my rossi is maxed if yk what i mean). who do you replace though, ake and go with wulf?

[flint thorn]

heck i still have the 6* standard banner selector they gave for free

[sinful schooner]

That has to be the most cursed selection box.

[flint thorn]

why cursed

[lethal tapir]

There’s a few ways you can go about it, either use Wulfgard for max heat stacks, or use Lae with max UGE and don’t use her ebs during her ult so she exits ult with max melting flame stacks and 1 ebs gets her back in ult. I don’t have Rossi though, this is just what I’ve seen. I can’t speak on how effective it is.

[tardy moon]

you and your uge smh

[wet moat]

i dont wanna eat stew meet every dapan attempt

[sinful schooner]

Wedge has been on every weapon banner ever so almost everyone has it / Jet is decent but Aywenna in a Fangyi meta / White Nova who even uses it / Examplar is good if you're a panda main I guess / Deto unit is good but doesn't work in most of the comps you want it to well.

[grand arrow]

Petition to add stew meet in stock redistribution or is it alr there i dont really check coz you burn so much on just 1 attempt

[wet moat]

stew meatdoesnt exist on stock lol

[flint thorn]

fair enough lmao, if i am not gonna be using any of those weapons later on might as well get exemplar

honestly got a bit bored playing Laev all the time so looking to branch out

[visual agate]

white nova is technically used by arclight, and deto unit is good for Antal.. so its more of a electric group box tbh

arclight built with some parts of the new gear can give extra ult gain and more focused on combo atk dmg

[sinful schooner]

Exemplar is decent as a stat stick at least. Due to it having a L ATK% as a sub stat. I still think Sundred Prince is a bit better but at P0 there's a good argument for Examplar being the better pick.

[rare kettle]

In Which universe arcmid uses wnn

[supple pollen]

sundered is ahead for LR as a non khrav choice

[tardy moon]

damage where

[sinful schooner]

Would White Nova be decent on Pog in a reality where Thermite Cutter didn't exist & you didn't have sig?

I'm trying to think of who it's even for.

[wet moat]

fortmaker

[supple pollen]

simple case of HG thinking AI for damage would be better than it is

seems pushed as a laev secondary choice while not being good as one

[hybrid meteor]

Ye realized today she kinda buns

[balmy bough]

where can i get this ?

[wet moat]

non set gear

[balmy bough]

oh thanks

[visual agate]

when it uses her ult, you can in combination with Antal+Perlica get 2 quick stacks electric infliction followed by arc's ult get the 3rd (which if u follow it with ulting with Zhuang, you get the 4th stack for max damage)

altho kinda niche as it just boosts the art burst and electrification damage for a small time

[quasi tiger]

atleast you didn't watch prillya before anything else

[wet moat]

its good

[quasi tiger]

It was an experience, to say the least.

[peak fox]

would also like to know how to gear him at p5/p5

[royal comet]

bro watching carnival phantasm with absolutely zero context was so funny to me, it was like i was experiencing an absurdist comedy show, 11 year old me constantly going "wtf is going on lmao- YOOO THERE'S A NOIR CAT"

anyway, for physical rossi + gilberta + pog, which do people prefer running: endmin, dapan, chen, or an art unit like perlica or tangtang?

also ardelia exists, but idk about running them together...

[tardy hull]

for physical rossi chen
chen is easily the best to fill in a physical team. easy extra vulnerability stack

[vernal dagger]

Chen is the goat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357611796682768385/1496226950694437054/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[sinful schooner]

Back to the best team as well

[void vigil]

Someone needed a video

[void vigil]

If you have gilberta its waaaaay better to run hyper arts like the above video

[royal comet]

fair, gilberta provides all the vulnerability u need

[cloud charm]

So, I think this is the best team I can put together for re-crisis. I'm trying to figure out what weapons and gear to equip.
Not sure what would be best for Alesh.
Any pointers?

[royal comet]

and perlica + electrification for more arts dmg

[cloud charm]

I have a protocol passs crate

[royal comet]

but what if i told you i hate tangtang

[void vigil]

Run antal

[toxic crest]

Hi I'm wondering if it's possible to make a Rossi team that doesn't take away any of the teammates from my Physical team (Endmin, Chen, Pog, Ardelia) in case I need two seperate teams in the future. Either that or I build Avywenna team...

[void vigil]

Its not about that, its because her ult dmg is arts / heat dmg

And her ult is the biggest contributor of her damage

Hyper buffing it with arts comp is just the best way for more dps

Gil providing free vul helps tho

[royal comet]

yeah i just thought that rossi combo needs vulnerability to trigger

[void vigil]

Yea she can vul herself, but free vul is always better

[void vigil]

Rossi chen + akekuri / perlica and endmin / pog

Pog + akekuri
Endmin + perlica

[cloud charm]

Here are my weapons.

[toxic crest]

So I assume that means it's a "no" to my question?

[void vigil]

No unless you get gilberta

But theres no indication of needing 2 teams so far

[toxic crest]

Hm I am actually contemplating getting her

[void vigil]

You should

She is used in so many comps

[cloud charm]

Every team needs gilberta istg T^T

[toxic crest]

Yea, I've mainly just ran out of stuff to use my sanity on so now I've resorted to building a second team in case we ever need one

[cloud charm]

i dont have her

[void vigil]

I wouldnt bother, just build what you like and reuse characters

[toxic crest]

Hm what team could I make if I do get Gilberta for Rossi?

[void vigil]

Rossi gilberta perlica antal

[toxic crest]

I see. Thank you

[void vigil]

Check pins

Also put fang yi infront of perlica

[indigo pebble]

why antal?

[void vigil]

Antal is a debuffer + heat amp for rossi

[dim ridge]

Fire amp

[indigo pebble]

couldnt you use akekuri? for link

[void vigil]

If you start with ult sure

Otherwise she is a bit slow for rossi on 0 ult to be optimal

[dim ridge]

Ake less buff

[dense dawn]

I also have high ping, might be our FAI (t'es chez free ?)

[sage dome]

nope, my internet's Orange

and it went back to normal after a reboot

[dense dawn]

then dunno, 450ms is not playable ueeeeeeeeeeueeeeeeeeee 😭

[sage dome]

ah it's still lagged for u?

[dense dawn]

yup

[sage dome]

do they usually have these problems

Paris had a quick outage for like a few seconds today

[dense dawn]

1st time

[sage dome]

unlucky

[inner jewel]

why my damage so low ?

ik rossi is not fully build but still

[cloud storm]

Guys, do I actually enhance Perlica equipment with this AI build?

[light cosmos]

like as in it was made by an ai?

[cloud storm]

Arts Intensity

[light cosmos]

okay good i almost lost it

what equipment?

perli can go brrt with the right setup and artificing

[inner jewel]

can some one help ?

[light cosmos]

apparently not, try copying the rotation into endfield metric labs and then switching up the gear and rotation until you are satisfied

[untold sun]

anything/anyone else I should be working on? got all chars but yvonne

[cloud charm]

In the pinned spreadsheet for Zhuang Fangyi team building, it shows Antal with kits that give ult gain efficiency but also gives will which isn't useful to him.
Should i just give him the one that has the same ult gain efficiency but gives intellect and strength?

[untold sun]

which one are you talking abt?

[supple pollen]

Aux arms over Power Cores?

you should use power cores on antal

[cloud charm]

Eternal Xiranite Power Core has Intellect 32 and Strength 21, but the ones being suggested is the Eternal Xiranite Auxiliary Arm which gives Will 32 and Intellect 21

[supple pollen]

not sure the reason they'd be suggesting aux arms other than transferrability which is like nto a real reason

youd have to ask whoever is a contributer on why

[cold cargo]

Probably copy paste from gils gear

[untold sun]

sry they edited after i typed and yeah, use cores

copypast would be my guess as well

[cloud charm]

The power cores came before the arms, didnt they? i cant imagine why they would recommend them

[cold cargo]

Antal does fuckall dmg anyway so it isnt a big deal

[untold sun]

the sheet was made somewhat recently, as we said before, the pics were probably just copypasted from gil

[cold cargo]

Use what is at hand

[cloud charm]

lol

[zinc yoke]

Less then Xaihi

[cloud charm]

thank you tho

[supple pollen]

more the principle than the actual content

[cold cargo]

Unironically less than xaihi

[supple pollen]

if an easy to spot error like that makes it through what else is there

[untold sun]

but yeah, in the end by how much dmg other people in the team do, its kind of irrelevant

[zinc yoke]

😂

Oh right that reminds me, want me to build Cryo now @cold cargo? Fangyi is almost done

[untold sun]

the thing is that error is pretty much irrelevant to whats going on, with "correct" gear u do like .1% more damage

[cloud charm]

I'm a min/maxer. Just my inner engineer.

[cold cargo]

Idk if you want to build it go ahead

[supple pollen]

"its not that big a deal so its fine that its wrong" is not a good stance to be having

[zinc yoke]

Im asking as you and mr Sin were so persistent I do, and if I want to, what skills do I proririze for each char?

[cold cargo]

Was i, i dont remember it likr that

[zinc yoke]

Aka LR, Tt, Xaihi and ofc Arde (no gil)

[cold cargo]

Lr or yvonne ?

[zinc yoke]

Lr

[cold cargo]

Why arde, slap perli

[zinc yoke]

Perli? Alr

[cold cargo]

Lr already in sp debt

[supple pollen]

ard's theoretically more damage but harder to route around

[zinc yoke]

Makes sense

[untold sun]

its a fan project, copy pasting happens, theres a shittonof writeup on there, the game makes it annoying to just show what ur using on the op, if ur as critical as that on projects by singular people then ur either gonna just have to do sth better urself or try to hop in to help out with things like that

[supple pollen]

perlica is just convenience especially for multi rot

[zinc yoke]

Gotcha

[cold cargo]

Yea, since most bosses are multiphase perli performs better for those cases

[zinc yoke]

Gotcha, so skill list (what to level)

[cold cargo]

And fatso insta die anyway

[zinc yoke]

Even with all p0?

[cold cargo]

Lr vs and ult
Tang bs
Xai ult

These are the most important 4

[zinc yoke]

I see

So Xai no bs needed? K

[cold cargo]

I mean

[zinc yoke]

For the amp

[cold cargo]

It is 2% for 6 crowns

[zinc yoke]

💀?

Wait what

[supple pollen]

i did the same for iana's which was ran by 1 person and I do the same for prydwen which is a much bigger team so yeah

i have no interest in going back to make my own nor do I have interest in contributing to this one which is why I don't interact with it

doesnt change the fact that things that are wrong should be scrutinised and corrected, not waived away because it's a minor gap

[cold cargo]

(Xai bs ) It is there when you need to minmax, but not really necessary

[untold sun]

then tag clown and correct it, arguing with me over it aint gonna do shit

[zinc yoke]

Alright

[supple pollen]

all I did was make comment, you're the one who tried to justify it

isnt my problem

[cold cargo]

Please stop both of you ill tell clown

I was the guy that made the "antal does fuckall dmg anyway" comment

Ill handle it

Shuo is right i shouldnt have worded it that way

[zinc yoke]

Ok any order btw to the team Ith aka team line up

I didn't mean rotation lol wrong 1

[neat egret]

whats the general rotation idea for zfy perlica arclight gilberta before zfy gets ult?

[cold cargo]

Not really since without ardel no one has same trigger

[zinc yoke]

I meant for order of teammembers my bad

[supple pollen]

perlica bskill > fangyi combo + perlica combo > fangyi bskill > loop
fangyi and perlica combos should be chained together back to back

[cold cargo]

Yes i understood

[zinc yoke]

K so who do I put in which slot?

[cold cargo]

But there isnt same trigger conditions

[zinc yoke]

[cold cargo]

Just do lr xai tt perli ig

[zinc yoke]

That makes sense yeah, just the 1 you would do

[zinc yoke]

Kk

[cold cargo]

Or whatever youre comfortable with

[neat egret]

and arclight/gil cs just whenever?

[zinc yoke]

It doesnt phase me how its done

[neat egret]

also is gil bs ever used for example when theres a bunch of enemies

[supple pollen]

on cooldown is fine, yes

[zinc yoke]

Got some leveling to do lol

[cold cargo]

Wtf

[supple pollen]

you can but not much incentive to do since it slows down fangyi generation and fangyi skill already has aoe

[cloud charm]

For Antal, wouldn't Tide Fall Light Armor be better than Redeemer Armor?
You lose out on 0.6% Ult Gain Efficiency (negligible imo) and 28 Intellect (which only helps with dps), but you get 58 Strength which helps with his support abilities.

[cold cargo]

This guy has p5p5 lifeg but no deto/chiv ??

[zinc yoke]

Perli I dont need to touch, Xaihi gotta do promote thing to 80

[zinc yoke]

I do, its on my elec team 1 sec

[cold cargo]

Perli slap stanza

[neat egret]

whats the main purpose of gil in the team then apart from cs

[zinc yoke]

P5, bet

[cold cargo]

Oh ok

Khra deto brigand stanza

[supple pollen]

0 sp consumption buffer
sometimes does corro
nature inf on ult can be used to make elec

[zinc yoke]

Dont ask about LR glitching

[cold cargo]

Lr wtf

[neat egret]

she dont feel so good

[zinc yoke]

:<

So gotta farm essences, get Xaihi to 80 cap, then tt 90/lr 90, and for tt its bs m12 and lr m12 cs/ult correct @cold cargo?

So I dont need to touch bs or basic or do I do those too? (for LR)

[cold cargo]

Bs m12 is insane

Minor number error

[zinc yoke]

tt dont need bs m12? alr

[cold cargo]

Bs m3

[zinc yoke]

😂

Ye I forgot that lol my bad

[cold cargo]

Lr bs and basic not really needed

[supple pollen]

a second vanguard is optional instead
antal >= ardelia exists as a buff option that uses some sp, or avywenna for extra dps at similar sp consumption
tangtang/rossi can be wheelchaired in at higher investments

[zinc yoke]

Kk

[neat egret]

that was in response to lr being turned to dust lmao

[zinc yoke]

Could you get me the gear btw if possible? With the correct names not shortened ones (I suck with shortened names sometimes)

[supple pollen]

my bad

[cold cargo]

Can someone check the clown doc

Antal gear shoud be updated now

[zinc yoke]

I can do

[light cosmos]

That’s a cool glitch

[zinc yoke]

Lol

[light cosmos]

Like actually

[zinc yoke]

This set? @cold cargo

[light cosmos]

How can I replicate it?

[cold cargo]

Shud be that

Arms change to tube was all that was argued abt

[zinc yoke]

Idk, it was as I opened her gear I took a screenshot

[zinc yoke]

Gotcha, oh you and sin did LR's gear/tt, perfect!

[cold cargo]

I mean

[light cosmos]

Oh so just her proofing into existence

[cold cargo]

There is no uge gear on that page rn

Since i dont do non ult content i am not really knowledgeable on how much uge would be best for tt

So i just provided the dmg max gear

[keen spear]

there was a whole argument over this?

[zinc yoke]

Yeah

There was indeed also hi Clown :D

Oh right that reminds me, I was gonna ask could I help with the spreadsheet on Physical btw if possible ofc

[keen spear]

I made a mistake that will contribute to like 500 damage, my bad but i dont think its worth arguing over

[cold cargo]

I mean it isnt about the dmg at this point

[lethal tapir]

Oh the arms thing on Antal?

[cold cargo]

The error should have been fixed waay earlier but i digress

[cold cargo]

I dont mean this to flame anyone

[keen spear]

if i have upgraded uge arms and am using antal, id rather use them than upg the other things, im not saying it shouldnt be changed im saying its such a minor difference that its almost obsolete

out of everybody who knows how to build characters, nobody even questioned or noticed until now shows that

[cold cargo]

Yea id just use what i have artificed at hand so i didn't really look that deep into it

[lethal tapir]

This is what I tried explaining to people anytime they complain about the wrong kits on Antal

[cold cargo]

And that be tubes since i have int uge tube artifed already for xaihi

[keen spear]

i use an upgraded power core i have on gilb, its the same thing

[cold cargo]

If i had arms. Id slap arms

[keen spear]

the only thing you realistically care about is the uge

[lethal tapir]

Like the arms are BiS for every other support, so chances are higher theyll already be upgraded. And the attributes matching aren’t gonna do anything anyways

[cold cargo]

Ye xira slave dont rlly care about stat other than xaihi

[keen spear]

also

at the end of the day, we're only human, mistakes happen, which is why its good to point it out

if you're going to argue and get angry at someone for putting something that contributes a ~0.x% difference in a virtual pixel game because it got overlooked i think thats wrong

did you hit the elec 4 kreative btw?

[lethal tapir]

Everything on the Internet needs to be true, and no I shouldn’t be expected to think for myself lol

Not yet I ran out of stew meetings

Gonna try again later when the alluviums let me farm them again

[supple pollen]

I was the one who had issue with it, and the comments here kind of prove the issue I had
it is what it is

[lethal tapir]

I m3’d Perli’s cs and then had like 1 or 2 more tries before running out of stew meetings though. Gonna stock up till I can try enough to really get the timing down.

[keen spear]

i mean i dont wanna argue, can you just let me know the issue, it got overlooked due to how miniscule the difference actually is, its like going to the store and paying a dollar instead of 99 cents, theres almost no difference

of course i want the sheet to be 100% true, but there will never be someone who dosent make a mistake

its changed now anyways

[supple pollen]

The issue isnt in the damage gap it's in the principle
Obvious things being missed implies a lack of proofing especially in a collaborative setting
While the issue in this case might not be minor the issue in other cases that might exist or future issues may be much larger
To then try pass off a mistake as not a problem because its not that big of a deal is just poor practice to begin with
If something is wrong it's wrong, it doesn't matter if its .5% or 50%

[lethal tapir]

The principle 😭 why are you still arguing about this anyways

It’s been fixed

[supple pollen]

in both cases I said I didnt care and only responded when prompted

but thats okay

[hybrid meteor]

He’s not wrong

[lethal tapir]

This is so funny, all of this over Antal’s kits.

[untold sun]

hes not wrong abt the principle, hes wrong abt making it a bigger issue than it is while not working on the sheet himself nor just informing clown abt it to fix it if he truly feels like its such an issue

[keen spear]

i completely understand, but the thing is, things that are that small being overlooked when we're focusing more on the complicated or important things seems normal to me

Again, i have mentioned in the original post that i am not the single person making the sheet, if something does happen to get overlooked, and i hope it dosent happen again, let me or someone else on the sheet know

[tardy moon]

[frosty compass]

its funny issue that got bigger instead.

[keen spear]

also im not saying its not a problem, i simply said i dont think its worth arguing over

[lethal tapir]

This is probably why Iana quit doing docs lol. People argue about tiny issues and then cry when nobody is willing to write out guides anymore.

[frosty compass]

More like iana got tired of seeing something people saying isn’t true.

[supple pollen]

iana quit because they dont enjoy endfield and it having no challenge

[frosty compass]

That as well

[keen spear]

completely fair

but yeah i dont plan to argue with anyone ever, i dont like arguing and being rude as a whole unless its just some silly banter, i hope you guys can agree and follow that too, it was a mistake i take full accountability for. some of the sheets are getting re-written and if there is any ever issue, please just let me know nicely, once again, we're only human, mistakes happen

[untold sun]

thanks for your work

[supple pollen]

not once have I cared like

better something than nothing

[keen spear]

its all just a bit of fun pixels at the end of the day haha

[light cosmos]

clown is this good or nah?

lifeng main

[keen spear]

what is this

[light cosmos]

a rot a i made

[keen spear]

never seen the graphs thats interesting

[light cosmos]

oh its in metric labs

i cannot attest to its accuracy

[inner jewel]

wait a second so yonnve ult is amplified with the basic atk ? i should mastery her basic ?

[lethal tapir]

Yes

[inner jewel]

GOD DAMNN

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-memes-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-yuta-jjk-gif-7576830720291615984

I CANT READ

so this was the reason i wasent doing damge

[supple pollen]

it uses the ult multiplier for ult shots
basic mastery is fine for controlled yvonne stuff but not required or as big a gain as ult mastery

[inner jewel]

ah

[supple pollen]

mostly finishers and large amounts of strings in the longer rots

short rot content / speedrun / etc the value is nearly nothing

[inner jewel]

ah okok

[light cosmos]

we should hold a comp to see who can deal the most dps in a 60 second rot like a solo op comp

[keen spear]

well im like the last person you should ask about phys

[light cosmos]

nah just the numbers i am unfamiliar with speedrunning

[keen spear]

nef?

[light cosmos]

rod

[keen spear]

yeah i cant really say, idk how condensed phys dmg is with lifeng

[cloud charm]

Which weapon should I choose? Should I save it for when a new weapon is added?

[light cosmos]

oh okayshould i ask da pan galzer?

[keen spear]

yeah likely

[light cosmos]

do you have fangyi sig?

[keen spear]

most likely is glorius, but it depends who you play and what weps you have

[cloud charm]

i dont

[light cosmos]

do you have fangyi or antal?

[cloud charm]

As it says on the owned count, i already have one of the first three

[cloud charm]

i have both of their sigs

[light cosmos]

oh i didnt see that

[cloud charm]

im running flickers on fangyi and detonation unit on antal rn

i dont have gil, yvonne, or laetania yet

[supple pollen]

Unless you have a reason to be spending it there's no point using it just for the fun of it

That is to say unless you're asking if a specific weapon is an upgrade for a specific unit you own then no reason to spend it

[cloud charm]

aight, ill save it for next weapon pass

-# Thats how it works, right?

[golden gate]

When you guys farm essences, are there any that you keep speculatively? Like there isn't a weapon that has those stats but you hang onto it incase there is?

[supple pollen]

The box won't update, that selection is the only one that box will ever have

[cloud charm]

I can help with this, 1 sec...

[supple pollen]

1.0 boxes only had 1.0 weapons
1.1 boxes had 1.1 and 1.0 weapons
1.2 boxes have 1.2, 1.1 and 1.0 weapons
we assume 1.3 boxes will have all 4 patches worth but thats unknown

[golden gate]

I like to keep the ones that naturally start with 4 in a stat

But if it's just flat 1s I'll delete it

[cloud charm]

https://datafield.cc/weapons?view=compact

I use this website to figure out which alluvium sites to farm and which pre-engravings to do.

[golden gate]

I'm talking about keeping essences for combinations that don't currently exist in the game at the moment, out of speculation

I hope this pops off

But how likely is an electric healer

[lethal tapir]

@keen spear Honestly I'm not sure how much faster I'm gonna get than 36s. I managed to get elect 4 but ran out of stew meetings i guess cuz Ake didnt get her ult back and i had to wait 2 seconds to get enough sp. Still cleared in 36s though since i crit and the 2s I had to wait for sp was basically the length of Ake's ult. The only thing I could think of is not using Perli's BS in the first phase so I have enough sp to skip Ake's ult in phase 2 and hope for a crit like this time. Could probably save 2-3 seconds if i do that.

[hybrid meteor]

Only element were missing is electric healer

[golden gate]

I didn't upgrade this, it came naturally like that

[hybrid meteor]

We got ember snowshyne and ardelia but no electric healer’s

[cloud charm]

That's something we'll never know, unfortunately. Not until it happens

[cloud charm]

May as well lock it, just in case

[golden gate]

I think it's worth hanging onto natural 4s

[keen spear]

can you

try doing

[cloud charm]

Sounds good to me

[keen spear]

Zhuang ULT > Zhuang bs > Final Hit > Gilb Ult > Perlica/Zhuang CS > Zhuang BS

would that kil phase 1

cuz then you could use arc ult for phase 2

[lethal tapir]

Hmm good idea I’ll give that a try when I get more stew meetings for Gil

[keen spear]

actually you need to use Zhuang CS before gilb ult

[lethal tapir]

That’d save the 2 seconds not using Ake’s ult in phase 1

[keen spear]

same as what you do in phase 2 where you gilb ult like same time but zhuang cs hits first

it would mean no slugpudding

[lethal tapir]

Yea if you do it too early you get corro lol

Thank god, let’s hope that works

Actually I can try to see if that’ll work phase 1 without stew meetings

[keen spear]

cuz then in phase 2 you can just Zhuang BS > Pelrica BS > Final Hit > Arc ult > Zhaung cs/Perlica CS > Gilb Ult

arc cs in phase 1 will also proc frontiers

[lethal tapir]

Wait arc instead of Ake?

[keen spear]

yes

well actually it wouldnt matter

if you cant kill without ake ult but are close put arc for frontiers on her cs

[lethal tapir]

It might, if no ult Ake wouldnt be able to proc Thermite phase 1 so Arc might help there

[keen spear]

and arc still help p2 with Elec stack

you still get elec4 due to that

[lethal tapir]

True with the sp issue

[keen spear]

zhuang bs > perlica bs > arc ult

zhuang cs > perlica cs, elec 4

[lethal tapir]

Hmm I need to crit fish phase 1

[keen spear]

Close to kill?

[lethal tapir]

Yea needs a FS but takes 2-3 extra seconds

Then by the second rot I finished my BS at 35 without Gil’s ult and got to like 1/3rd hp left w.o Gil’s ult. So like 34 seconds if -3 for phase 1 and +2 for Gil’s ult.

Wonder if I can get it without Gil’s ult if I crit fish the hell out of it

[keen spear]

just do what that guy did fdor 27s

though he was 5+5+5+5+5+5+5+5

[lethal tapir]

lol the physical one?

[keen spear]

no zhuang one

[lethal tapir]

Ahh I didn’t see that one

Yea my Gil is not up to par for that kinda speed

[keen spear]

https://vxb23.tv/UMr68sF

genuinely just 5+5+5+5+5+5+5+5 critmald stuff

oh and dont forget fishmald too

[lethal tapir]

Yo what he didn’t even use Gil’s ult in phase 1…

[keen spear]

yup just a plain elec 2 kill

[lethal tapir]

Just Gil’s sig I guess?

[keen spear]

they have perlica on det p5
gilb on deliv p5
alesh on thermite p5

[lethal tapir]

wtf is Alesh even doing there 😭

[keen spear]

in phase 2 he uses his cs

to avoid an ult animation since his cs gives team buff

which means he fished all these crits and also fished for the gold fish on cs

[lethal tapir]

lol ridiculous trying to crit fish all that, I guess Alesh is appropriate for all the fishing they did

[keen spear]

1.6m zhuanbg bs elec 2

with only gilb ult and alesh cs, crazy stuff

[lethal tapir]

p5p5 Gil is nuts I guess

[keen spear]

thermite p5 is in my dreams

[lethal tapir]

I’m at p3, it just hasn’t shown up on any of the recent weapon banners. I think it was on Gil’s banner and I pulled till the box and ended up with 3 copies of it.

I’d probably have p5 by now if it showed up on any banners since, but it hasn’t

[zealous orbit]

i keep trying to hit a laev rotation when im using my other teams this is so infuriating

[keen spear]

Muscle memory eh?

[urban flower]

guys, this build ok?

[supple pollen]

for overworld or very specific routing sure

for general 'endgame' gameplay, ymmv

[zealous orbit]

i dont see why tangtang would be generating heat stacks like that

[lilac elbow]

Why tangtang?

[urban flower]

tang tang is for increasing damage and control

[keen spear]

Tangtang can be played in almost every team due to her cs proccing off any art burst

Not limited to but including cryo

And for general mobbing she can just spam bs

[urban flower]

tang tang can give weakness to the enemy

[lethal tapir]

.cantread

[languid wasp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1475997022615113900/cantread.gif?ex=699f84d8&is=699e3358&hm=f283e9f64e009c1dbd4556362116e277bbaaf6f50e83895e5c641e76003299d2&=&width=1080&height=728

[urban flower]

not important, just showing that tang tang can give weakness when have the tornado

[urban flower]

supposingly tang tang is able to read the chinese word

[zinc yoke]

Lol 32 seconds p0 wth 💀

[static elm]

i won my girl

[lethal tapir]

#salt-mine-gacha-flex

[light cosmos]

P1 fangyi let’s go

P2 in 34 pulls as well

Should I

🤔

[lethal tapir]

You mean you’re 34 away from the guarantee?

[light cosmos]

Yeah

[keen spear]

i see no reason not to

[lethal tapir]

Yea if you’re that close

[keen spear]

p2 is a reasonable boost

[lethal tapir]

I got her p6 cuz I was close to the guarantee

[light cosmos]

P6?

[lethal tapir]

Got her p5 7 pulls away lol

[light cosmos]

Oh

[lethal tapir]

So yea I grabbed p6 for half a 6 star weapon

Point is if you’re 30 away from p2 you might as well, it’s more worth than the 7 pulls I spent to hit guarantee lol

Also p2 is like 5% more dmg or something like that, it’s not bad

[keen spear]

8% bs dmg and what, 20 will

or is it more bs dmg

[light cosmos]

I’ll wait a day or two for money then pull

Also I still have double packs so what’s the lowest price 4 that guarantee

[keen spear]

my cheque should get funded in a couple days

ill hit a pity but its up to the game if its gonna be fangyi or not im not gonna keep going if i dont get it i dont think idk

[lethal tapir]

@keen spear I'd have to crit fish both phases to get it, but if i did I could probably cut off like 4-5 seconds. Sounds like A LOT of stew meetings though lol.

[keen spear]

you're gilb ulting early

like early early

dont you remember new rot with arc

[lethal tapir]

In phase 2 or 1?

[keen spear]

should be able to gilb ult you're bs in phase 1

[lethal tapir]

Oh i see what you mean

[keen spear]

z ult > z bs > fs > combos > gilb ult > z bs

you should have enough ult gain on her to get ult back

[lethal tapir]

Right i forgot about that part

[keen spear]

this cuts the perlica bs

[lethal tapir]

With stew meetings tho?

[keen spear]

yeah

[lethal tapir]

actually i have 7 left I can try again

[keen spear]

i think

if you do that and kill, you can do 2x perlica bs on phase 2

• arc ult + zhuang bs

zhuang cs > gilb ult and then perlica cs after it

and net you elec 4 boosted bs + elec 1 still on boss

yeah you can

wait that'd actually be so good

---

Phase 1

Zhuand ULT > Zhuang BS > Zhuang FS > Zhuang CS > Perlica CS > Gilb Ult > Zhuang BS

Phase 2

Zhuang BS > Perlica BS > Perlica BS > FS > Arc Ult > Zhuang CS > Gilb Ult (wait for elec to get consumed) > Perlica CS > Zhuang BS

elec 4 boosted bs with elec on boss lol

[lethal tapir]

Still cata on Perli I guess or should I AI max?

[keen spear]

need cata

[lethal tapir]

Alright let’s give this a shot

[delicate seal]

How to run tangtang DPS?

[lethal tapir]

Do you want team building advice or rotation advice?

Can help with either since I don’t think mdps TT is on the doc

[keen spear]

because you cut perlica bs in p1 you should have around 300sp in p2 entry, enough to usezhuang bs and 2x cata perly, which will refund an entire 100 to allow your last zhuang bs

[delicate seal]

Both if possible

[keen spear]

also arc will help incase you're a little off its perfect

[lethal tapir]

lol

[urban flower]

my team for zhuang, is it ok?

[lethal tapir]

For mdps TT you want Bonekrusha chest, gloves, and mask with Slab. Her team building consists of TT- Xaihi - Perlica - Gilberta(If no Gil you can use Alesh I guess) If you dont have Gil I wont have a rot for phase skipping Rho, but the general idea is to prep with Xaihi's BS before entering combat, then TT BS + CS right away > Basic attack x2 > Xaihi CS > TT CS > TT BS for max Waterspouts. If you want an actual boss rot I can give you that, but I'd need to know the specific team youre going with.

her gear

[keen spear]

it worked?

[lethal tapir]

Well, it did but if i did 2000 dmg more it'd have been a second faster lol

[keen spear]

upgrade gilb weapon lol

[lethal tapir]

its already a p5 Stanza 😭

[keen spear]

etch the atk%

[lethal tapir]

I have her sig at p1 but i cant proc it phase 2

[keen spear]

nah all jokes aside thats good enough

what about phase 2

how was phase 2

[lethal tapir]

Bruh..

Guess I gotta promote it to get those last levels right

[keen spear]

lv 90

[zinc yoke]

Yeah just the promotion don't need to level to 90

[lethal tapir]

Gil needs the dps from the 90 boost lol

Thats how close I am

[zinc yoke]

Lol if that is the case go for it

[small gorge]

whats the best gear set for chen for ult damage

[zinc yoke]

Yingling or new Sm set, doesnt matter which way u go

[small gorge]

triple yingling and which non set?

rossi gloves?

[zinc yoke]

Ill get a screenshot rq

[zinc yoke]

Redeemer Gloves

[small gorge]

ok

yea thats the one i meant

[zinc yoke]

This is the Yingling aka 1.1

Only different is if u wanna run SM, you change these 3

[small gorge]

i dont got the new SM yet

[zinc yoke]

To this

[small gorge]

which weapon

i got sundering steel and glorious memory

[zinc yoke]

Glorius Memory > Sundering Steel

[small gorge]

and her sig

[small gorge]

which one better

[zinc yoke]

Glorius if p0, Sundering if p3 +

[small gorge]

thats exaclty how they both are ,crazy

[zinc yoke]

Lol

P0 Glorius is still really strong ngl

It depends, do u wanna crit fish or have more sustain damage

I own both p5 and damage wise if Glorius crits it does way more 😂

[small gorge]

what about stagger damage?

[zinc yoke]

That belongs to Rapid

[small gorge]

i dont have rapid

[small gorge]

them p5 looks so amazing

[zinc yoke]

Stat wise: Glorious left side < > Sundering right side

[zinc yoke]

Fr

[small gorge]

what is agility

[zinc yoke]

Her main stat

[lethal tapir]

@keen spear Actually I don't know if this'll work. I watched the vid again from the pic where I almost made it and I actually crit that time and still didnt fully get it. Without critting I can't even finish it with an FS and Gil's ult makes Zhuang's bs turn into Electrification so i dont get her cs either and needed to finish with another bs

[zinc yoke]

Where sundering shines over Glorius is the 2nd/3rd passives

[small gorge]

can you break down the will and intelect also?

[lethal tapir]

Id need to use Perli's bs for Deto and electrification 3

[zinc yoke]

Those dont do anything for her

Only Agilty/Strength

Ill do a pro/con rq for Glorious/Sundering for u, both at p5 btw so take this as a grain of salt for your liking :)

[small gorge]

they both got the same strength which is good but glorious has more agility so use glorious? even tho i gotta p3 sundering?

[small gorge]

betttt

i do wanna use lupine scarlet cause it look so fire on chen but its on rossi and then rossi will be weaker

[wet moat]

p5 lupine good on chen too lol;

[small gorge]

i only got 1 copy which was my first ever 6* weapon before i even pulled rossi

[tardy moon]

cringe

i hate that weapon

[wet moat]

atk 44.8% at p5

[tardy moon]

[flat panther]

Dont worry, i hate that weapon too

[small gorge]

hate what weapon

[flat panther]

LS

[small gorge]

yall not finna hate on the best designed sword

[zinc yoke]

Glorious Pros:

1. Crit Rate +19.5% (regardless of potential)
2. 19.6% Attack buff with a +33.6% ult damage buff after you apply vul stacks aka using her combo skill/battle skill up to 3 times for a total of 101% at P5

Glorious Cons:
Only 1 and that is crit fishing at times 😂
Also locked behind Battle Pass for copies)

Sundering Steel Pros:

1. Physical Dmg Dealt +34.7%
2. +14.0% attack + +21% attack caps at 2 stacks for 42% every time you apply a vul stack (combo skill/battleskill) of Chen (At P5)
3. Way more sustain damage then Glorious if we're talking no crits (way more if u crit fish, it can outweigh Glorious sometimes)
4. Easy to get copies for lol

Sundering Steel Cons:

1. Not as reliant to critfish as Glorious
2. Less Agility (Mainstat) then Glorious
3. Looks ugly

@small gorge

[wet moat]

btw at what pot lupine beat gm for chen again?

[tardy moon]

it really depends on the stage

cause of that stupid chud ass passive

[wet moat]

assumsing average

or like fatso

[tardy moon]

she can’t stack it on fatso speedruns

so like p5

[wet moat]

solo chen

[tardy moon]

oh yeah then p0 if solo

iirc it was pretty close to sundering p5 solo

i’m never doing sims for that weapon again

[wet moat]

do it again

[tardy moon]

[lethal tapir]

@keen spear Actually this isnt gonna work at all, Gil's cooldown still has a few seconds left by the time I need her ult in phase 2

[keen spear]

omg ult cooldown is so annoying

[small gorge]

@zinc yoke is +33.6% high for ult damage while redeemer gloves on?

[warm lodge]

@lethal tapir one thing to ask to you. Is hotwork working best for laevi? Because after investing 6-7 hours i can see many flaws

[zinc yoke]

Yeah it applies on top of the gear sets %/redeemer iIrc

[lethal tapir]

well yes hotworks is lae's best set, if youre p0-p3 then you use 2 pyrometers and hotworks gloves with redeemer or tidebreaker chest, if p4+ you use hotworks int chest, gloves, and 1 pyrometer with Lynx slab.

Ive tried other sets, her damage gets worse

[warm lodge]

Not about stats but it's effects

[zinc yoke]

Oh yeah @keen spear (this time I pinged you :< sorry), did you see what I wrote to you in this chat

[keen spear]

i did not

[small gorge]

and how much ult damage for sundering p3?

[lethal tapir]

Yes its effect, its the best set for Lae right now

[zinc yoke]

Ill forward it to DM

[zinc yoke]

A lot less

However overall damage sustain wise belongs to Sundering

[warm lodge]

For now yes but the problem lies in the timing for it lasts. 10 seconds with the current and for longer runs it makes a problem

[keen spear]

i dont know anymore then

[lethal tapir]

lol what, it takes you more than 10 seconds to proc Lae's ebs?

[keen spear]

you'd have to gil ult earlier before gil cs

[small gorge]

yea i see that sundering does more basic combo and battle skill damage then glorious while glorious does high ult damage and i right?

[zinc yoke]

Correct

[warm lodge]

Nah not that issue bro. For 10 seconds but for the first time when I use her bs the effect will trigger after the bs and if i need to do a speedrun it will make a little bit mess

[zinc yoke]

Overall damage < Sundering, Glorious > Ult damage <

[lethal tapir]

Well you can try other sets and let me know your results. Ive tried fully artificed MI and even with crit fishing she was dealing like 200k less on her ebs

[opaque fiber]

Antal, akekuri or gilberta? for zhuang team

[small gorge]

guess ill use glorious for bosses and sundering for the small fries

[small gorge]

perfect

[zinc yoke]

Want to hop into a call and I show you both?

[small gorge]

yea dm me

[zinc yoke]

Ill screenshare on any boss you want and you can see for yourself

[small gorge]

bet

[warm lodge]

Have to find something. Hotwork's most pieces stats are made for laevi but the set effect is a bit mess to use in speedruns.

[zinc yoke]

K check DM @small gorge

[lethal tapir]

The problem is there are no other sets that give Lae int and strength, so you lose quite a bit of atk no matter what you chose. Also I guarantee you hotworks works just fine for speedruns.

[warm lodge]

That is the main problem that lies other sets are not meant for laevi, stats don't match perfectly. And for hotwork when i wanna nuke boss with 1st bs i have to perform a normal bs with 4 stacks then again proc those stackd for ult bs that just make the speedrun into snailrun. xD for longer runs it is the besr choice

[lethal tapir]

If youre trying to speed run you need Gil

[vernal dagger]

chen gaming

[lethal tapir]

Gil's ult before Lae's 4th basic attack will proc combustion before her ebs

[warm lodge]

I always use gilb even in umbral xD

[zinc yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/endministrator-endmin-arknights-endfield-bomb-gif-3801526505005205420

[lethal tapir]

Then you shouldnt have a problem

[vernal dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357611796682768385/1496226950694437054/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[zinc yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/can-you-send-me-30k---perlica-%26-chen-qianyu---arknights-endfield-perlica-chen-qianyu-arknights-endfield-arknights-gif-16197301475453264916

[lethal tapir]

If youre still confused by what i mean it goes like this. I had hotworks proc'd for both Lae's final strike and her EBS

[flat panther]

I hate becus i whaled then went broke, yet LS still on P3

[small gorge]

you whalers dont learn

[flat panther]

learn what lul

also no rush since i could mine arsenal from pulling next banner tryin to get p2 gil

[woeful wasp]

[flat panther]

prolly cus i got p5 artzy on ||270|| pulls back then so the gryphline came collect debts

[warm lodge]

Ah, but it is useful in piggy I was doing speedrun on traigellos there i can't use this thing

[subtle escarp]

I need tips on my team.. I found this on the game support thing and it had the characters I have so I mained it without knowing how to actually use it..

[lethal tapir]

Damn, I have the rotation to get it for Rho, Marble, and Nef, but you’re gonna make me find the rot to speed kill Triag now aren’t you lol

[flat panther]

Good match my ass

[lethal tapir]

You just have to build up a few heat stacks before entering Lae's ult here and it works fine. It's a bit of a pain getting Lae's ult back and the full vid wont fit but the rot is the same to get combustion before ebs during ult. You can FS before or after the EBS but there was no need.

[worthy estuary]

God damn. How do people rotate zfy during ult downtime

She takes so long to recharge ult. Im even using uge set

[bronze raven]

Yes

[flat panther]

time to farm stew

[slender spear]

i thought that was my discord sound