Favorite Guns!

[echo blaze]

Unless you are one of those guys who doesn't move their legs while they play

[jolly zealot]

Galil higher then M4 is wild

also Drag in D?!

[scenic canyon]

Galils recoil is 1000000 times lower than the m4

And almost the same damage

[fervent gull]

Vector 10m is s tier

[lavish verge]

250 below mp7?? are you tweaking?? 😭
250 is the best cqb gun rn, A tier minimum

[scenic canyon]

I can't control the recoil

[lavish verge]

literally just tapfire it at ranges where you can't burst or full auto

[scenic canyon]

Even tap firing has high recoil

[lavish verge]

still better than mp9, mp7, vss, vector9/10, p90, both UMPs, mp40, aks74u, barrett, goldensks, and ak74

[regal smelt]

Amazing ragebait

[scenic canyon]

@regal smelt it's fr not even that bad

[echo blaze]

I wish they added the rm68

[fading grove]

I rate this tier list a C because all but one of the guns in S come close to belonging there

[frank saffron]

Or just use the silly xm250

[lavish verge]

yea

[brittle otter]

thats a beautifll gun

[coral haven]

not to brag but I posted earlier than anyone else

[quartz seal]

Valid or nah

[brittle otter]

b is not valid but rest is valid

[quartz seal]

whats not valid about b? try and change my mind

[brittle otter]

fn

57

its goated

ap 2-3 shots naked

ive killed loads of full kits with it

but thats your opinon so idc

and deagle pretty cool

@quartz seal

[quartz seal]

I perfer using the USP because its easier to find AP in raid, ill use both for kitted raids but its just whatever i have more AP of, the deagle is good but i dont use it in raid enough

[stable gust]

no cause aug is at the bottom

[jaunty oxide]

1. Galil

2. Akm

3. Saiga

4. PP Bizon

5.SKS

[lavish verge]

ok so. golden sks is not s tier, ak alpha isn't either, and barrett is not a tier

awm is s tier, mcx/xm250 are s tier although i dont think they're on that list yet

also tikka under mosin is so absolutely bizarre

[mortal hound]

bizon underrated tbh

[frank saffron]

1. M4 carbine

2. XM250

3. MCX spear

4. M1SASS

5. SCAR

[lavish verge]

sass above awm 💔

[frank saffron]

I suck ass at sniping what can I say

[lavish verge]

fair

learn from the best only $5.99 a month to join Sniper's University fr fr

the top g of sniper sor some thing

[frank saffron]

Too expensive for me I’m broke

[lavish verge]

too expensive for me too

[frank saffron]

Are you self taught

[lavish verge]

yes\

well actually mostly

[shy skiff]

Delicheese taught him

100%

[lavish verge]

i learned a little from R4ven

but most of it was just me

[frank saffron]

I’ve never taken the time to get good at sniping

[lavish verge]

it's worth doing

good payoff and it helps your regular gameplay cause of the stability, decision making, and thought

try sniping with a tikka + smith at some point

it's really cheap and it rewards headshots very well

so it basically promotes your aim getting better

[frank saffron]

I did that once and it actually worked out
I might do it again because I am spec 3

[lavish verge]

tikka with smith is probably the single best way for someone to get better at sniping imo. although the awm is slightly different handling wise and velocity but the basics are similar enough

[lavish verge]

it was way better last wipe cause of ap being so common, now not as much but it still slaps against anything pg4 or under

and most people don't run altyns on island so as long as you hit your headshots you win

even hitting torso it'll still waste so many meds people will usually back off of fights after 3-4 hits

[frank saffron]

I find people running altyn once every few raids

[lavish verge]

i wish lol, all of my kitted people on island just run c1300 🤮

[frank saffron]

This is what I like to do
Just be a prick

[frank saffron]

mine usually have altyns or C1300
A fair mix of both

[shy skiff]

I used c1300 because I value my vision

[lavish verge]

altyn better cause it actually protects you

[shy skiff]

Yeah I get that

[lavish verge]

tiny bit of vertical fov tradeoff is worth it imo

[shy skiff]

True, I still only have uwu altyn

[frank saffron]

And after a while you just get used to it

[lavish verge]

the mich is still better than the altyn, but on a map like island i don't see much reason over the altyn. on mall/matka i see it though. silo not so much cause it's so closed off

[lavish verge]

exactly yea

since i run the altyn mainly, im used to it

vertical fov is worth a lot less either way though

[lavish verge]

i have 7 of them 💀

[frank saffron]

Same here
Although the FOV has gotten me killed before but also I should’ve been paying more attention

[shy skiff]

I just haven't killed anyone with them

[lavish verge]

i've gotten all of mine off players save for one from the uwu dlc and i think one more from a purple vault or two

[shy skiff]

yeah

Early wipe kitted is probably the best thing someone can do

[lavish verge]

Although the FOV has gotten me killed before but also I should’ve been paying more attention
yeah people use this as an argument against using the altyn for lower tier helmets, but i think that it's only a loss if you have bad gamesense/sight priority in the first place. the vertical fov will in 90% of fights not matter enough to be worth it over the insane protection

you could probably fight people with fov lower than the fish mask if you just had good gamesense on how to make use of that limited FOV, especially so on a map like island where you can isolate fights easier and don't have to be looking around frantically as often

[frank saffron]

And now since ap isn’t so common you usually have time to react unless you’re drunk

[lavish verge]

exactly. the altyn is amazing because it makes FMJ a suggestion unless you position really bad (blunt damage), so if you have an altyn on roof and you opponents don't have ap or fullpower fmj, it's basically over for them unless you blunder

[shy skiff]

Fmj battles had saved me so many times

[lavish verge]

"they have fmj they can't do anything to me!"

[shy skiff]

(he was ap)

[lavish verge]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-troll-troll-face-trollge-gif-4344533683396770151

[shy skiff]

And mf hit me for 2 bars of hp

Then decided to deal half of my hp every time he hit me

[frank saffron]

You would basically have to intentionally fuck up to lose that fight

[lavish verge]

exactly. or make an amateur tier blunder. which is why the altyn is extra valuable now imo

armor in general, especially the altyn, mich, and R61

[frank saffron]

I now see why they changed all of the marketplace and AP things at the same time

[lavish verge]

ye

[frank saffron]

It is a very smart way to do it too

[quartz seal]

the barret i havent used since i killed a guy with it on matka and i used like 3 shots so i cant really say what it is, as far as the Alpha and Golden SKS theyve gotten me a bunch of high teir loot so i think those were just up to preference for me, havent used mcx/xm250 but id put them at s (they arent on the list yet), i dont use the AWM enough to really call it s tier, mainly because my hands are too shaky to hit shots with a scope on, and for the tikka, i cant hit anything with it, and when i find it in raid i have to find a reticle to use it more accurately, the mosin has no rail, therefor i dont need to find a reticle for it when i run naked raids, this list is just opinion though, i see where youre coming from with these and understand why you pointed these out

[lavish verge]

i get that

[weak tusk]

1.Galil
2.AWM
3.MCX spear
4.M1SASS
5.SCAR

[full wing]

1.mat49
2.AWM
3.XM250
4.SPEAR
5.Alpha

[dusk warren]

Angle grip night force holo on top of the night force or you could just do angle grip and laser if you prefer

For the xm

[thorny shadow]

bar ap

[fading grove]

boss sks is 3 tiers too high, sass and val are too high
5c, akm, VSS, g36, m4, and scar are like C tier guns at best. The ump and P90 are pretty trash. The barret is like C at best.
From a comp standpoint, the G3, Spear, and XM would be the only A/S guns atp. Alpha with AP is still good but AP isn't as easy to get so it's like B at best now.

[lavish verge]

awm is a/s tier though now that fmj is so popular

all the rest of that is valid though

[dusk warren]

Honestly you don't need ap I've gotten head tapped while wearing an altyn by bar and head tapped people with it as well I think the only helmet that can actually take a bar shot mich helmet

[strange cape]

1.Asval

2.Spear

3.Scar

4.Alpha

5.Ak5c

[brittle otter]

teach me some tricks] and tips

[foggy torrent]

My current favorite gun

[next silo]

It’s a budget mp5, it’s insane for 1900

[bitter meteor]

1: mp40 this gun is underrated for price
2: Barrett because of loud boom and one tap no matter what
3: deagle, love slapping a acog on this thing and using a gun stock to snipe
4: awm (in my opinion, hate if you want… just a cheaper worse barret) but one taps
5: MPX, love this gun, looks amazing and I love to run this, only thing I don’t like is armor piercing on it against kitted chads and the recoil, other than that amazing overall and one of my favs on island.
Bonus 6: I love to run the MP9 on silo with like 8 mags, this thing is a cheap worse p90 but is lv3 and shreds nakeds, paired with nades and a duo you can rule the underground.

[lavish verge]

i hate you

for having wrong opinions

awm > barrett because it’s the exact same thing but half the price, one tier lower to unlock, craftable ammo, lighter, better handling, and the only big difference is that it’s not semiautomatic

oh also the mp9 is spectre 2 now

also better gun than the mp40 is the BAR but it’s honestly overpowered so idk if i’d suggest it

best budget guns imo are tikka, 74u, bar, mp9, and benelli

[bitter meteor]

Godamn man, just tryna be in the discord again

We don’t all gotta love the awm it’s like saying, “I love the alpha over the bar” and you went and started arguin. the alpha is better in almost every way.

[dark spruce]

1. MCX spear
2. asval
3. Ak alpha
4. Scar
5. Ak74u/ak74

[faint summit]

Tikka 1 taps w ap best grub gun

[lavish verge]

only one taps to nakeds but yes the tikka is really good

[faint summit]

No im pretty sure it also 1 taps kits

[lavish verge]

nope

trust me, i'd know

[faint summit]

I might be wrong as they coulda changed it

[lavish verge]

it does 103.5 dmg with ap so any armor makes it not one tap

[faint summit]

But last vid i saw tikka t3 1 taps t6 so

[lavish verge]

probably wasn't full health

[faint summit]

I might js be wrong

Isnt 103 to the head with c1300 also 1 tap

Becuz of such high caliber and ap

[lavish verge]

any bullet that pens a helmet and hits head is a one tap

i mean to torso it doesn't one tap if they're wearing any armor, to head it will

cause it still pens everything, it just doesn't do enough damage to onetap torso

[faint summit]

If im correct its m1 sass calibers

[lavish verge]

yea, they're both 7.62x51, same as the g3a3

[native igloo]

1st - Spear
2nd - spear with ap
3rd - Spear again
case closed 🍀

[faint summit]

1- pineapple grenade
2-luty
3-pm
4-ruger
5- impact grenade again

[lilac quail]

1-ruger (tr)
2-makrov (fmj)
3-awm
4-carrot

[blissful tapir]

I hate you

[scenic canyon]

Ok

[vestal thicket]

1st - ak 109 alpha
2nd - luty with tracer
3rd - ak 109 alpha
4th - ak 109 alpha with a different paint job and tracer
5th - uwu akm

[brittle otter]

1.Spear
2.M1A SASS
3.XM250
4.AK109 Alpha

[weak marsh]

I liek da mat fourgy nien😋

[bitter meteor]

Kinda basic ngl

[brittle otter]

Ok?

[bitter meteor]

Ok?

[brittle otter]

Those are my favorite guns

[bitter meteor]

Nuh uh

[fading grove]

Based on usability with FMJ
1 - ||Fully built spear||
2 - ||Partly built spear ||
3 - ||Spear with a timmy optic like a RMR ||
4 - ||Spear with nothing on it||
5 - ||Spear with half a mag||

[crimson venture]

No XM250?

[fading grove]

with recoil it'd be ranked around the same spot as a spear without a grip. Plus it's rng based to get so it's not super reliable to continuously run without depending on luck to roll collector or get an idiot with it

[crimson venture]

Recoil can be easily managed with a grip, once you get a collector kit it's pretty hard to lose it.

[fading grove]

I'd rather not chainsaw since i use a stock and that's too much work. it's hard to loose a firefight especially with how much better the R61 due to fmj being standard rather than AP, but one loss to smth stupid like when the tim tims found out AP was in the 4th shiro mission, getting rnged out of getting another is possible. i've rolled collector like 2 times out of the 90 or so matka raids, which isn't too bad but it's still annoying to get vs just getting spec 5

[crimson venture]

Alrighty, fair.

[grand egret]

1 - MCX Spear (never used it but its like my favourite it looks so good)
2 - AK Alpha (basically same as spear except i use it ALOT more)
3 - Scar (Probs fav 556 gun)
4 - M4 (second fav 556 gun)
5 - AKM (Can't go wrong with an AKM build and a t3 or t2)

[echo blaze]

This would go hard i wish I had one

[regal smelt]

ppretty sure Scott said we'll get one in the future'

[lavish verge]

finally the one benefit of playing freehand
anyway xm250 with chainsaw > mcx, 5x the ammo capacity is funny

[echo blaze]

No way that gun is awesome

[rain cobalt]

Looks like an L85 without the stupid training version handle.

[modern otter]

this is based fr fr

[echo blaze]

Half a mag spear over a fully kitted alpha or as val is kinda cheeks

[fading grove]

with jacket the alpha doesnt have enough pen and the val is just buns all around

[echo blaze]

Oh fmj ok. The g3 fully decked or the m1sass should beat a half mag spear

[fading grove]

G3 loses due to recoil and sass loses to firerate in 60+% of fights

[echo blaze]

Idk 10 rounds is easy to spend on a Chad who's moving around behind cover

I feel like those odds of losing are enough to make me want the other gun anyway due to the fact that you can control what type of fight you engage in more easily when you have the sass or g3 rather than a half mag spear

If you go into full survival mode and stop doing missions that is

[fading grove]

if you play smart enough, 80-90% of players suck ass at positioning or awareness and can easily be read and countered

i dropped a 3 stack of roof boys with 20 rounds of an alpha so

[echo blaze]

I did the same with a bar one time

2 trying for secret room one sniping

I was a tree camper in the front of labs

Which btw is the easiest way to kill a geared guy as a timmy

[fading grove]

anddd we're a timmy ok thats why the sass is in this /j

[echo blaze]

What do you mean

[echo blaze]

Barrett
Xm250
Spear
Gold sks
Asval

[dark bison]

AK ALPHA IS JUST BETTER

[lavish verge]

i hope this is favourites and not a tier list 🙏🙏

[echo blaze]

Its a favorite

[neon pawn]

YOOOO THIS IS STILL UNLOCKED

With no cool down

[primal wharf]

Omg ur smart

[strong bolt]

dawg

stop

[crimson venture]

Keep this channel on topic.

[vestal goblet]

How do you take the cap off the stimulus bruh

[neon pawn]

Yea

Mb

[dense garden]

Its in off topic tho

[autumn grove]

MCX SPEAR

[dense garden]

?

[vestal goblet]

Please help

[shy lance]

makarov

[tropic furnace]

Hold trigger and pull hard down

[primal wharf]

It's on the bottom now

[covert cedar]

its an off topic for guns only

[crimson venture]

It's a thread for favorite in-game guns.

[obtuse oak]

Let us flame tabor here

[neon pawn]

ITS PDUTO

[shy lance]

no

[primal wharf]

Maybe if they didn't lock down our comms it wouldn't be an issue

[dense garden]

Spear (pls fix the game im begging you)

[crimson venture]

Any off-topic message sent here will be actioned

[tropic furnace]

Hi buddy

[neon pawn]

👍

[obtuse oak]

My favorite gun is the Val, ok now I can talk bout whatever right?

[dense garden]

yes

[dense garden]

k

[obtuse oak]

Favorite gun Val, I can’t do tabor rn like it fell off

[primal wharf]

I like the bizon, it's effectively cheap. Anyway the devs should really try waiting for updates to work before uploading them :D.

[dense garden]

lmaoo

[worthy vale]

Favourite gun is the spear, btw it flies away from me

[primal wharf]

Lol

[obtuse oak]

Favorite gun is the impact grenade. anyway they should release a lot more content as well instead of lying

[covert cedar]

op sks is a great weapon if you use it right.
crazy.

[dense garden]

Favourite gun is the Ak alpha (I cant with this game im playing exfil zone after defending this game for 1.5 years)

[primal wharf]

The sights on the bizon are really pretty. Also it'd be nice if I could bring folded armor back in my backpack without it being an atom bomb.

[obtuse oak]

Favorite gun is the smoke grenade , me too i tried saying tabor was still better but I can’t anymore

[shy lance]

Vss in single mode and sniper scope

[dense garden]

same bro same I also love the smoke grenade

[worthy vale]

favourite gun is the spear

[primal wharf]

Truth

[tropic furnace]

Cobra is making me so excited rn

Its not thick it's straight and thin

[covert cedar]

though it may be the truth. the full auto sks will be the best in close quarters

[crimson venture]

Just because you include a gun doesn't make your message on topic, those messages will be actioned as well if continued.

[crimson venture]

specifically talking about messages like these ^

[primal wharf]

Bizons pretty little stock is nice, reminds me of weed. I just wish I could spray my bizon with oil, or my weed with water.

[covert cedar]

they got a little quiet when u came in XD sorry for the off topic

[covert cedar]

honestly the bizon is a good gun i just struggle to use it because its something im not used to

[primal wharf]

It's worth training. Then again people like the bar and it's just too long for me.

Some guns people are different on 🤷‍♂️

[covert cedar]

that is true the bar is good the only cutoff is the length.
i havent played tabor in a while. i might need to so i can use the guns a bit more good chance to try them and improve

[primal wharf]

Do you use VR Stock?

[covert cedar]

tis getting off topic i wish not to be smited. but yes

[primal wharf]

Aye that's true. Yes makes it much easier to aim tho.

[covert cedar]

that is very true when it comes to the stock. when i use it i use it for all weapons. but i will be honest i use the awm with a reflex eotech and it works really well. if possible give it a try

[primal wharf]

I have a hard time w red dots in vr; I can either do zoom scope or iron sights, but red dots have me f'd up idk why.

Which one is the AWM tho? I'll run it in training a bit.

[covert cedar]

it could be the pixel dense or it can be hard to focus with your eyes

[covert cedar]

the awm is the 34k bolt chambered in .338

if u get ap with the gun and u can hit body shots you can most likely one tap "most the time not all" it is worth a try if you have it

[primal wharf]

Haven't got any, will keep an eye out.

[primal wharf]

Sounds fun tho.

[covert cedar]

spec 3 i believe it is i dont fully rememeber let me look at wiki

they upped it to spec 4

[primal wharf]

I have not done enough quests lol

[covert cedar]

i havent played pvp branch yet ive been testing out mission system and the spear then i stopped playing

[primal wharf]

Ah

[covert cedar]

i played tabor toooo much so a break was necessary especially early 2024 then i stopped playing it again. game is still great the gun work is amazing for a vr thats crossplay

[worthy vale]

but when that guy say off topic things he gets muted

[echo blaze]

The bar is cheeks dont lie.

Its like the most powerful of the crap guns

[woven sail]

Only bad thing about it is really the iron sights

If it could have a scope it would be my favorite gun

[echo blaze]

And recoil and sway and mag size and loading operation and length muzzle devices can't be added. Couple that with its awkward to hold and aim

However. In missile silo and matka underground it's actually tier 3

Up close it beats all tier 3 assault rifles

[rain cobalt]

This isn't locked? Oh

[untold wedge]

416-c when?

[dire atlas]

Real

[dire atlas]

I would use it on silo and underground maybe mall but island idk

[echo blaze]

Using it on island is asking to get clapped

Unless that's all you got

Even if you dont get clapped good luck getting any kills on island

[fervent gull]

Fuck automod Jesus fucking Christ it is the absolute worst

With the scope fix the famas is now a favorite of mine

[modern otter]

hot take: ak alpha is overrated

[dark spruce]

I agree

[midnight glacier]

BAR on top

[lapis hill]

does anybody wanna give alphas for awm or sass

or g3a3

[old fern]

Under rated or over rated?

W

[polar topaz]

They should low-key add a full auto 30-06 rifle with attachments

[old fern]

Nah

[old fern]

All over rated except for asval and gold sks you can’t just put t5 guns

[old fern]

Over rated

[old fern]

Ong

But why it got to look like a bar

[polar topaz]

Ts would surpass the g3a3 and the 230 to 360meter snipes would be insane

[old fern]

Tbh if the bar had better iron sites it would probably be the best naked kit

[polar topaz]

Or an ak side rail attachment. (Idfk how that would work)

[old fern]

Fr

[polar topaz]

Wait nvm the left side is just flat so Scott could add it if he wanted

[old fern]

You think the Ak alpha is over rated?

[polar topaz]

WHAT IS SCOTTS EMAIL IM GONNA SEND THE IDEAAAA

[polar topaz]

Very.

[old fern]

FR

[polar topaz]

Tbh the akm better

Ngl they should add a ak side rail on a regular sks

Irl you can do that cause 12000 for a tapco is insane

[old fern]

everyone be like “Ak AlPhA is ThE bEsT gUN”

[old fern]

Yes

[old fern]

Yes

[old fern]

Price and specter level it’s better

[polar topaz]

Just reduce the recoil and I'm good

[old fern]

Yes

[polar topaz]

This kit would be my fav tbh

[old fern]

lol

[polar topaz]

Or the bar rifle

[old fern]

They need to add an attachment that lets you put a grip on any gun and add a way to take apart guns and customize other guns with different springs magazines etc

[polar topaz]

The spear is good but people with ap rely on their armor and shit aim

[old fern]

Fr lol

[old fern]

I have not used the spear is it that good

[polar topaz]

It's good but mf's with ap are overkill

[old fern]

Is it like asval ap like you don’t need it but it’s a lot better

[polar topaz]

Spear 2 taps t6 and t7 but with ap it's not even funny

[old fern]

Ok that is overkill

[fading grove]

spear cannot 2 tap through an R61 without AP

[echo blaze]

Why be lazy and add and hcar. When you could design a cooler gun in autocad

[polar topaz]

Because 30-06 go boom and great damage

[polar topaz]

I was wearing collector an I got 2 tapped in the chest

[echo blaze]

So make the new gun 30-06

Make it bullpup and give it drummies

[fading grove]

fatal shot was in the torso, i've tested with some buddies, it takes closer to 15-20 rounds of ONLY hitting torso to drop a R61

[echo blaze]

Big boomer gun modern day assault cannon

[polar topaz]

Tbh the only maps I run bar are matka and silo

[echo blaze]

Island bar is a deathwish

[wicked mango]

HCAR my beloved

[polar topaz]

Nah I ran that shit with a22 killed 2 juicers from radio hill to 2nd camp

[polar topaz]

Fr

[echo blaze]

Hcar honestly when you hold it feels like hot dogwater. I don't want that thing anywhere near my virtual hands

I want something like the m4 that feels good to hold

[wicked mango]

😔

[echo blaze]

The tapco is good feeling

[echo blaze]

Something like this would rock

[summer tiger]

I feel like something like this would:
1.have integrated suppressing

2. Some kind of 2-3 burst fire

3. Weird magazine design (smth like aug)

[echo blaze]

Burst fire is disgusting pls no

[primal wharf]

Burst is fine

[lavish verge]

if it's a hyperburst like the an94 maybe but regular burst is yucky

[dapper python]

1911 is goated

[rustic crest]

Cold

[elfin urchin]

My favorite gun is the g3a3 with ap, second is probably as val or the amw

[summer bluff]

1. G36K
2. M4
3. AWM
4. G3A3
5. Tapco SKS

[fathom void]

FN FAL

[tiny cipher]

Pop one player

[silver tiger]

1. PPSH
2. Ak Alpha
3. AWM
4. Five-Seven
5. M1ASASS

[worthy vale]

Spear
Val
Alpha
Awm
10mm Vector

[echo blaze]

ASMR tier list
Alpha ak
Tapko sks
Regular sks
Ak74
Galil

[echo blaze]

With the introduction of the spear how could you possibly choose the g3a3 as your favorite

[lavish verge]

cause it’s 1/10 the price and a tier lower

spear is definitely better but value wise they’re similar

[echo blaze]

Oh

[kind kraken]

G3a3 with a nightforce scope😍

[warped thicket]

Ruger from 2023

[weak marsh]

w

[honest wren]

G3 being heightened made me quit call me an ass

i think you can tell what my fav gun is from that

[frank saffron]

You may only be able to buy 1 mag at a time per hour but that isn’t stopping anyone from doing this

[lavish verge]

i'd count those to see if i have more but im too lazy lmao

i actually have around 85 spear mags on my wall rn

[frank saffron]

I mean I could count them now
But then I’d have to get on

[lavish verge]

nah ill count from the image

[frank saffron]

Good luck
I have 1 spear mag in a spear and 1 on a table
So 2 extra

[lavish verge]

so it turns out you do have a few more than me

cause im at like 85-90 and you're at 96

• 2

[frank saffron]

Close, I didn’t expect you to actually count them
I’d have more if I bought them more consistently

[lavish verge]

yea same here, i stopped playing consistently for like 3-4 days i could have had easily another 12-18

[frank saffron]

Usually I get on, buy some, do a few raids, buy more, repeat until I get off

Then sometimes I forget to buy more after doing raids

[lavish verge]

pretty much same here

[frank saffron]

Tabor player daily routine is usually the same

[lavish verge]

i dont even play that often cause of the bugs this wipe lol

been playing more of scp sl and gta

[frank saffron]

I don’t really mind the bugs, only ones I usually encounter are bags going through the floor but I just hold on for dear life and run for extract

I’m usually always on tabor, consistent player

[lavish verge]

idk it just gets to a point where i lose more gear to bugs than to players lmao
out of like 5 or 6 raids recently just from bugs i've lost like 7 collector sets, 4 xm250s, 4 spears, 3 purples, ~1250k in misc loot,

and nobody ever runs collector shit except for on matka which i hate so i never get more

[frank saffron]

Alright I get loaded lobbies but not that loaded, Where are you finding these people
I’m usually pretty lucky and don’t lose gear to bugs

[lavish verge]

all of the collector gear and xm250s and spears was 2 raids btw. one on matka, died to an invincibility glitching kid, other was on mall, where i traded with 2 fullkits and both of my teammates got the exfil glitch

[frank saffron]

At that point I’d consider taking a break

[lavish verge]

its all just pixels

[frank saffron]

I’m not playing mall until the exfil thing is fixed

[lavish verge]

its just an inconvenience honestly

[frank saffron]

yeah, but a break is still needed
It’s one of those thing that doesn’t matter but a break could be nice

[lavish verge]

i basically already did that

just hoping they can fix bags disappearing when i take them off my back to loot shit

game is so perfect but the bugs take away from it

[frank saffron]

It’s always a risk to basically anything
Try to take out your gun? It might vanish.
Wanna take out your bag? You risk it going in the floor or you crashing
You take off a med cap too fast? No healing
Fold armor too fast? Can’t put it in a bag
Wanna grab a bag off someone you killed? That might fly away or go in the floor

[lavish verge]

yea pretty much lmao. i love this game enough to where the bugs cant make me quit though, maybe thats addiction idk

[frank saffron]

Despite the bugs I refuse to quit this game
I think we both have an addiction

[lavish verge]

i think the best part is i tend to only play every 2-3 days but i still have a stupid amount of hours

[frank saffron]

I play everyday but have no clue how many hours I have

[lavish verge]

should check if ur on pc

[frank saffron]

I’m too broke for that

[lavish verge]

oh

standalone idk

im somewhere between 2100-2300 but im not certain because some of it is on standalone and not recorded

[frank saffron]

Q2 standalone
All I know is I have somewhere around 1k-1.5k

[lavish verge]

more likely 2150 or 2200 but idkl

[frank saffron]

gah damn

[lavish verge]

yea i snipe

[fervent gull]

That would probably handle like shit cause of the weight distribution

[echo blaze]

Yeah but it would allow you to keep it held up longer since weight isn't all on your left arm

So easier to bring up. Recoil might be buns though cause nothing holding the barrell down

[fervent gull]

I don’t have that problem in vr thankfully 😅 but I would love for a 7.62 x95 😗 and more Aug options, and maybe even a railed famas. It’s an ugly gun but pretty good. I love bullpups thanks to halo

[tiny cipher]

1. Spear
2. Alpha
3. Ak5c
4. Mat49
5. Scar

[frank saffron]

1. Spear
2. M4
3. M1SASS
4. AS VAL
5. XM250

[lavish verge]

1. AWM
2. MK18 SA-ASR (.338)
3. REAPR
4. MG338
5. AXMC
6. MRAD
7. Bad News

[polar topaz]

1. Akm
2. M4 with iron sights
3. Scar with iron.
4. Galil
5. Ak-47
   6.the Galil and ak-47
   Did I mention the galil and ak?

[cunning cedar]

.

[shy lance]

valid

[dark spruce]

1. Spear
2. Asval
3. Scar
4. Ak74/74u
5. Galil

[rain jewel]

if 3 is valid then ur an absolute beast💀💀

[rain jewel]

hear me out, M4 with cobra

[polar topaz]

I ran it on daytime Island and somehow headtapped a c1300 kid from like 23 meters away and another was a Robin from 45 meters

[rain jewel]

[polar topaz]

I swear on my collector kit that I will lose it that I did kill those 2

No suppressor either tbh

No grip cause naled scar is doable

Duable?

[rain jewel]

Bro you’re an tabor monster😭😭

[tiny cipher]

1. Spear
2. Alpha
3. Ak5c
4. Mat49
5. Scar
6. Asval

[meager crag]

awm the best

[lavish verge]

yessirrrr

[modern otter]

Hot take: tika t3 ain’t that bad

[fading grove]

Not that bad, but still not good

[lavish verge]

mk18 sa-asr, awm, reapr

[elder locust]

1. Galil
2. Tikka T3
3. G3A3
4. VSS
5. G36K

[inner tendon]

give it a decent scope and more than one mag and you can take down kitted people really easily

[modern otter]

this for eft?

[tiny cipher]

Th is the mk18, we playing vail?

[lavish verge]

not any game

[tiny cipher]

Oh irl?

[quick meteor]

I feel like everyone hates the luty

[main wind]

i’m pretty sure the mk 18 is in vail not sure though

[lavish verge]

not this variant

[spice sparrow]

its not a good gun. It only exists because people were desperate and needed a gun and only had scrap metal. it runs off the principle, "better than nothing"

[glad coral]

1. MCX Spear
2. AK-Alpha
3. M1A SASS
4. AS-Val
5. AK5C

[quick meteor]

@spice sparrow it's a great gun just not for high tier players or low tier, when wipe comes it can destroy

And also

33.9 damage per hit

With a 16 round mag

That's 542.4

Each mag

Meaning that you can take out a tier 3 chest rig player with 1 mag

[spice sparrow]

thats provided you can aim with non-existant iron sights, and with rate of fire, lack of attachment points, and poor recoil management, its incredibly difficult to use the gun beyond 5m and youll find yourself running out of ammo before youve managed to kill someone. Now I am not saying it cant be used at all. Im saying that its one of the worst guns in the game and you always have better options available. Ive only ever used it as a joke or when i actually did not have any other gun (in which case it was abandoned as soon as i found something else)

especially when it comes to the 9mm smgs

[quick meteor]

@spice sparrow I mean you make a point by the recoil and sights but still if are swinging a corner (let's say radio) you can easily get the jump on someone just by getting up close

Sure it's a garbage gun at long range but close up you'll be winning fights against t3 players

[spice sparrow]

its use cases are incredibly niche and can be done by just about any other automatic in the game, and most of those can do it better. and outside of silo where everything is cqb, its especially bad idea on island.

[quick meteor]

Also it's not the best I'm saying it under rated

@spice sparrow you're right about island but still

[spice sparrow]

and i am disagreeing that its underrated, its rated exactly where it should be. A gun shaped object ment for dispensing bullets when you lack a gun

[quick meteor]

@spice sparrow compact, high rate of fire, and better than a pistol (not degal)

@spice sparrow personally I think the worst gun is the L8

[spice sparrow]

small mag size, hard to control, useless beyond 5m. outside of mag dumping someone around a corner, a glock is genuinely better in all other use cases

and any of the other smgs in the game do it better

[spice sparrow]

oh dont get me wrong that thing is a piece of crap but the luty is actually the worst

[quick meteor]

@spice sparrow well a g17 with a 31 rounder and a quick trigger finger then yeah but

Hold on

Give me 2 minutes

@spice sparrow ok well

@spice sparrow g17 can do 35.3

2 damage higher

1 more bullet (enless you chamber a round and have a 17 rounder mag then 2 more)

[spice sparrow]

its easier to control, has amazing sights which enable it to hit beyond 5m, larger mag size and multiple mag sizes, higher damage and like you said, with a decent trigger finger it can mag dump fairly quick

[quick meteor]

Yeah

[spice sparrow]

plus you can add suppressor which does increase damage by a small amount and a laser to further increase odds of hitting your target

[quick meteor]

But not everyone has that luxury

Where did you get that?

[spice sparrow]

right, but even with the base glock, its better than the luty in all but one use case

[spice sparrow]

get what

[quick meteor]

The suppresser doing a bit more damage

[spice sparrow]

The supressor increases the velocity of a fired round. its not by much but its enough to notice. Rociel knows more about it

[quick meteor]

@spice sparrow I'll see when I get back on but back on track

The luty can fit in any bag (nobody uses the small bag) and it just spary the enemy before they can get their gun up in time

Also it's light and you can carry multiple at a time with using a GT or Ragnar

And also like I said not the worst

[spice sparrow]

Being able to store the luty is a near moot point since it's only useful when able to be deployed quickly. The time you loose pulling it from a bag is better spent pulling anything off your belt/holster

[quick meteor]

There is you know the Ruger, mac-11, and vector 9mm

If you don't believe me I can send a picture of what it says

[spice sparrow]

The mac 11 occupies the same niche the luty does, but does it better with a larger mag

[quick meteor]

Yeah

Vector is good because of the drum

[spice sparrow]

The vector 9mm is alright because it can take attachments and comes with a larger mag

[quick meteor]

Yeha

But still the luty isn't the worst

[spice sparrow]

The ruger occupies the same category of weapon in the sense of, "better than nothing"

[quick meteor]

I'm just gonna say that it's good

Welllll

[spice sparrow]

It's not

[quick meteor]

I mean

The knife

It can 2 tap

[spice sparrow]

Is a meme at this point

[quick meteor]

I know😞

I carry a knife in Pvp

And PvE

It helps alot

There are other guns that suck

Like the stoner63

I mean like yeah high fire rate, high mag size and meh damage but the iron sights sucks, you can't add a sight and also the damage is ok but not the best

Well actually the damage is great

It does 49

The m4a1 does 43

[spice sparrow]

Why are you using a knife at all? A firearm, even a luty, is better than a knife

[spice sparrow]

The stoner is better than the luty but compared to other 5.56 rifles it's bad yes, but this is about the luty

The luty is by far, the worst smg in the game. It's barely better than the worst pistols in the game simply because of its rate of fire and mag size

But there are so many better options than the luty, it's not worth using or even picking up unless you actually have nothing

[mellow swan]

Tikka AP go too hard.

[mellow swan]

Be better if you could put a Acog on it

It looks like you can, but unfortunately you can’t.

[spice sparrow]

it would be better if you could stick any optic it.

[mellow swan]

Too op (jk)

[mellow swan]

That’s true, but I specifically said that bc Acog’s are BROKEN

especially in matka

[spice sparrow]

acogs are just a fire optic for any medium range engagements. theres a reason the marine corps had to be investigated for executions when they got their acogs. turns out the acogs just allowed them to perform long range lobotomies very efficiently

[mellow swan]

I use tikka AP and acog to get kits from island 🤷‍♂️

[spice sparrow]

m16, ap, acog is a phenomial choice when trying to upkit

[mellow swan]

Agreed

That’s good too

[twin grail]

Spoon

[glad coral]

I agree

[last river]

The bolts are a fine iron sight, it's not hard to aim, and the recoil can be managed, it can definitely be a beast I'm ngl, one of the better smgs. Nowhere near the worst gun in the game

[fleet galleon]

1. DSHK
   2.XM-250
   3.M107
   4.XM-7
   5.RPD

[fading grove]

dshk is wild

[tiny cipher]

It’s actually the spear

We are not using irl terms

[fleet galleon]

Who is we? U think theres a dshk in tabor😂

[lilac quail]

Based

#1 aks74u with acog
#2 awm
#3 mat
#4 luty
#5 scar

[smoky agate]

Modernized bar is crazy

[smoky agate]

There's no point in ap with the spear it does same damage with any ammunition also peirce every rig

[fading grove]

The FMJ spear does not have a 100% pen rate on all armors, the AP one does

[mellow swan]

isnt that a machine gun/ a gun on a tri-pod?

Mac 11, Mpx, or SG-552 commando = best on silo AND matka underground

AsVal, AK-5c, or G36K = best on matka

Tapco SKS, G3A3, M1A SASS, or Scar = best on island

(mall not included cause i dislike it and shotguns not included cause theyre such a dirty move on silo and underground)

[mellow swan]

is this valid?

[smoky agate]

Oh? I've been 2 tapping collector kits without ap so idk

[polar topaz]

In my opinion. Bar go brrr

[polar topaz]

Kinda but I think Double Barrel on Underground is good

[smoky agate]

Bar is good but its overrated

[fading grove]

Might've been headshots. According to the wiki and my testing it's not 2 tap torso with jacket. the mich is pg5 so it's basically a 50/50 to land a shot with jacket

[frank saffron]

Try M4 on Matka trust me

[mellow swan]

will do, ill give it a try

[frank saffron]

only think you gotta get used to is the recoil but shift/angled grip deals with it

[smoky agate]

Nay most of them were pelvis or legs

[sturdy dew]

Let’s be honest the g3a3 is good for any situation

[manic vale]

Xm250 better

[dark spruce]

I can agree on that, insane for cqb and insane for long range

[lean turret]

Listen to me luty ap kills collector kits in five shots

[smoky agate]

That's like comparing a child to a bodybuilder

[oblique knoll]

my fav is a bitten glock with a non working sight and eaten surpressor

[echo blaze]

But absolute buns midrange

[fading grove]

real

[stray raven]

1. Golden TT
2. Krtek SKS
3. Krtek SKS
4. Krtek SKS
5. Krtek SKS

[hexed rapids]

I wasted 5 shots to kill 2 guys on docks all the way from radio hill, G3 is good if you have AP bullets and you are accurate

[manic vale]

1 makarov
2 makarov
3 makarov
4 makarov
5 makarov PM

[distant lichen]

1. ruger AP
2. ruger AP
3. ruger AP
4. ruger AP
5. ruger AP

[summer plume]

lol

some how this is open

with no delay

meep

[jagged obsidian]

1 AS val

[summer plume]

hello

[woven sail]

hi hello hi

[random grail]

No way general was locked lol these Timmies are going insane because of wipe

[stable gust]

Hi semi

[summer plume]

they are going to lock down

meep

[random grail]

The whole server??

[summer plume]

ya bc of general and bc of wipe

[inner tendon]

whew

[woven sail]

Hopefully they don’t come here

[inner tendon]

I feel safer in here from the timmies

[summer plume]

everyone does

[random grail]

Welcome to the safe house

[summer plume]

we just gotta hope they dont find this

[random grail]

They won’t

[summer plume]

like that will ever happen

[random grail]

They were gonna use it for an update I think but never did

[inner tendon]

They locked it for wiping

Look at gen chat

[random grail]

Anyways do you guys think m249 is coming?? Also we got another couple mins

[next rose]

Alright we’re safe

[woven sail]

Might be that gun that zstorm teased 👀

[summer plume]

ya same

[random grail]

Zstorm couldn’t keep his mouth shut there we weren’t meant to know that as viewie said

[next rose]

Scott said 2 new guns so we’ll see

[inner tendon]

can’t wait to read patch notes

[random grail]

This wipe event was very chaotic compared to the others

[next rose]

Same

[summer plume]

did the never wipe doors open?

[inner tendon]

So many more people that actually ran kits

[random grail]

Now it’s the peace when game has just wiped and everyone is in below 5 queues

[woven sail]

I don’t think they ever will tbh