🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[alpine verge]

Oh wow i ordered mine 3 days after you did unless that was feb of last year

Idk how long they have been out on preorder

[lethal sinew]

It was announced & made available Dec 23rd I think

[trim frigate]

Correct thats when i ordered

[alpine verge]

Did you ever get a tracking number and stuff from them?

[royal lily]

guess i'll wait until they fix shipping prices. Tried to order a few extra things with it and shipping ended up being $50 (in US) that's insane. Or i will just look at other options.

[shy mulch]

Bought mine on the 23rd and never received an email notification of purchase, and haven’t received any shipping info yet

[alpine verge]

I’m in the same boat

[lean hare]

Wonder how long I’d have to wait if I ordered one now

[alpine verge]

Probably 3-4 weeks if i had to guess

[lean hare]

Are you the maker of these, just realized you had brando in your name lol 😂

[steep orbit]

I just help with media because I loved the design

[lean hare]

Got it, I just got an email that the shop was back up, and thought that was a pretty wild coincidence lol

[steep orbit]

lol I actually didn’t mention anything to him but hell yeah. Brandon is a really cool dude he’s gonna help you out 👍🏼

[lean hare]

Thanks man!

[lean hare]

Would you recommend the xl or the classic?

Oh nevermind, the full kit is probably the way to go

[steep orbit]

I’d say Classic is all you need in 5’10 using XL but have it smallest config. The full set is great cause you can change out stuff. Like I started with the Front End grip then forearm brace back to Front end Grip

[modern marsh]

Anyone know a great stock for the Quest 3?

[lean hare]

I’m open minded to the forearm brace idea

I’m just curious about how repeatable it is when lining the sights up.

It is a very fresh and interesting idea I haven’t seen any other use and it does look very versatile when switching between guns and different games

[ashen hull]

@pure crown and I have been tearing it up lately 😂 Gunstocks help so fucking much

[normal flax]

I had my raidr today and anyone looking to calibrate it you don't really need to. Thi like most gun stocks it's a bit fiddly when putting it together and takes some time to get used to

[ashen hull]

Nice dude!

[normal flax]

Magnets are also very good on it and it has been fun to use so far

[ashen hull]

Yeah bro, my stock is pretty much identical to the Raidr. I get what you mean!

[primal lava]

Don't need to calibrate it -- meaning the game option right? Trying to decide where to mount the controllers. Going to try middle point on both the short tube and the buttstock

[hollow zinc]

Hey all, I actually just opened my shop back up. I'll have to do another stint closed down in a week or two but figured I'd open at least for the next week or so. As the messages keep coming haha

[royal wagon]

@nocturne lotus what is the best way to get the index controller in the raidr mount? it doesnt feel like a totally natural fit

[normal flax]

Yeah in game calibration isn't needed and it just messes it up a bit but if u get ur counts in the right spot then you'll be set

[normal flax]

Only issue with the raidr is that the mounts move a bit so sometimes it needs a bit of readjusting while playing however I'm assuming that it's coz the stick is brand new and it'll break in over time

[dawn elk]

wondering the same, its pretty loose in there
not a snug fit at all

[royal wagon]

metal on plastic with a rubber strap feels really unstable

i feel like im missing something

[dawn elk]

I've taped up the inside of the metal rod, it was scratching the shit out of my controller

[royal wagon]

the shoulder stock got on nice and tight, but the controller mounts arent

they rotate

ive got to be missing something with the index controllers, i cant find something that feels good

[steep orbit]

You’d be surprised how good it feels after playing with it. But I like using the cup now with the same gun optic setup every time. But forearm is better for naked runs where you pick up anything

[royal wagon]

the controller shifts and wobbles in the mount, its like i got the wrong part

but its a universal part

[dawn elk]

yeah feels the same, though not too bad

[royal wagon]

theres too much play, precision is going to suffer because youll have to constantly be compensating

@dry merlin any tips?

[rich ocean]

I guess it's and early adopter life contact them and see what they have to say maybe tolerances are too loose.

[empty mist]

cant wait to get mine, only a couple more days of waiting

@ashen hull what gunstock do you have?

[ashen hull]

I use the 7thVR.com magnetic Gunstock

[empty mist]

anyone have a magtube that can give me a review on it?

[empty mist]

looks interesting

[ashen hull]

I love it

[empty mist]

i shouldve spent the extra $40 for carbon fiber and black

but im not going to be seeing the stock while in vr anyway so its not that big of a deal

just gonna look a little uglier

[rich ocean]

I use it and I have non carbon version and I'm very happy with it it's solid

[empty mist]

yeah i got chrome and grey

[empty mist]

but im happy to hear that, makes me even more excited for it to arrive

[spark lintel]

good stock for geared runs, not so great for naked runs because certain guns are janky af but that goes for every stock

[royal wagon]

Best on the market in my opinion. 7000 hours strong and going

[rich ocean]

It is amazing you can set it how you want although only slight let's say downside is that you basically have to use some sort of sling. Otherwise stock is heavy and you will drop it when used one handed in full form.

It's modular so you also can make it like a speed run pipe kinda deal some people play like that so it only connects two controllers.

[royal wagon]

ok, managed to tighten up the screws and everything on the raidr and the cups, at least the metal parts, are a bit more stable

but the index controllers do not sit in the cups very well

[pure crown]

They said it’s normal for the first 2 weeks i think

[royal wagon]

where is this?

the design of the cups is nto going to change over time

[pure crown]

In the instructions manual on the Mamut discord server

[fossil isle]

Been playing more with tabor raidr.
I'm getting more used to it and feels like I'm winning, no loss yet 😄
But I wonder if the decision to have the buttstock in metal if feels heavy and the controller mount need to be tighten after every round.
It feels like this will wear out and eventually break idk.
Let's se

The top screw

[pure crown]

Thank you for the info

I’ll keep that in mind

I'm looking for some gunstocks any recommendations?

[royal wagon]

Getting the same feeling here. A lot of lever force on a small joint

The middle joint is also not particularly robust, it’s definitely not made for bracing against your shoulder, it only takes a very small angle of deflection to get it to pop off

[terse venture]

I just got the Raidr in and was ready to try it out. Unfortunately I am afraid to use it since one of rubber “buttons/tabs” looks like its about to rip off. Can I trust it to be strong enough to just hold the controller? (On the picture I drew 2 red lines where it looks ripped)

[royal wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-eDFDlLn78&t=20s

[fossil isle]

It doesnt matter if it pops off

It's just glued there to hold it during shipping

[royal wagon]

thats where the strap connects

thats a key part of the design

[signal sphinx]

Trading ragnars and ronins for new lmg and armor

[limpid swan]

Everyone's getting their stocks in and I ordered day one like the minute it released 😭

[dry merlin]

Thats for shipping purposes and not the intended design. We need to work on info 😀

[royal wagon]

?

[crimson wolf]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[dry merlin]

You will have to tighten it a few times over the first few hours of gameplay. But thats expected

[pure crown]

cant relate i use a homemade stock

[brisk zealot]

How did u make it?

[royal wagon]

im confused, thats where the strap connects to hold the controller

[spice pawn]

scale of 1-10 how well does it work?

and if its above a 8 tell me how please

[pure crown]

old pic i added padding to the stock

[brisk zealot]

I’ve tried that before it didn’t work that well

[dry merlin]

Yes. Thats a glued on knob added by the factory last minute to allow thee strap to stay in place when no controller is attached during shipping off the set. If it stays on, cool, if not it doesnt affect the usecase (non of the prototypes has had this)

[pure crown]

works great for me

[brisk zealot]

Damn

[spice pawn]

when you said homemade i thought PVC and a 3d printer

not what you get off of wish.com

[pure crown]

like a 7 bro huge difference to having no gunstock

[limpid swan]

Yo this looks alot better than what most people have posted.

[pure crown]

thats my next build, printing soon

[jovial zinc]

Are they shipping stocks out or they on a hold rn?

[spice pawn]

can you send me the STL's?

[royal wagon]

i dont have any extra knobs

[valid horizon]

Can any join and kinda teach me how to play just bought the game and the UwU pack got user is pizzaman69

[royal wagon]

i dont think we are talking about the same thing

[pure crown]

nrn im not at my desktop but i got a link to a similar project on thingverse https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6289919

[royal wagon]

wrong channel

[spice pawn]

!boa

[drowsy lodge]

BOA = Battlefield Observation & Awareness
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[spice pawn]

they will help you

[dry merlin]

Well. You should have a nipple without a hat on your sleeve. If you don't have a nipple we have an issue but if the hats off thats not an issue.

[royal wagon]

i dont have anything like that, could you take a pic to what you are referring to?

the straps were around the tube holding the joint close

[terse venture]

I am a bit confused, that tab is there to hold the strap that holds the controller, right?

[pure crown]

Is that made of fucking coat hangers and cardboard.

[pure crown]

and its almost as stable as any gunstock 🤷‍♂️

[dry merlin]

Please read the manual. The "hat" is not needed for use. Only to keep it in place when theres no controller in it.

[royal wagon]

from the video

[pure crown]

Bro show me how to make that shit

[royal wagon]

you telling me that should not be there?

[pure crown]

I need a gunstock but no idea what to buy

[royal wagon]

the "hat" is a key part of the strap design

i think we are talking about different things, perhaps something that did not ship with the stateside RAIDR shipments

[lean hare]

He’s telling you that when you put the controller in there and tighten the strap on it, the little hat on top will not be necessary to retain the controller

[royal wagon]

no, you cant tighten the strap at all without that

[half spade]

bros preaching

[dawn elk]

for me it well off in a solid 7 minutes lmao

[dry merlin]

Nope. It a glued addon by our factory so we can fit it neatly in out box. None of the prototypes had this.

[lean hare]

🤦‍♂️

[half spade]

has mamut gotten word on anything going on with the GoT site?

[royal wagon]

https://youtu.be/y-eDFDlLn78?t=145

timestamped part of the piece in question

i believe that is scott putting the band in place on the retaining pin

[dry merlin]

Just to make everything clear aswell. Mamut built all the kits.

[royal wagon]

if i unhook this part the controller falls out, theres nothing to retain it

[dawn elk]

I dont got that little hat anymore, and its fine for me

[royal wagon]

i am completely baffled as to how this design is possible without the hat

[dawn elk]

controllers not in there super snug, but not because of the missing hat

[terse venture]

That's exactly what I don't understand, what else will hold the strap in place?

[dawn elk]

you wrap the band back in around the back, it just.. works xd

[dry merlin]

You need to tuck the strap in the slot @royal wagon

[royal wagon]

ok its not falling out but it instantly gets very loose

even with it really tight the fit of the cup retention on the index is quite poor

[terse venture]

I can't get it tight enough that way

[royal wagon]

maybe the experience is significantly better on quest controllers

[dawn elk]

It's holding

[royal wagon]

because tightening the hell out of the strap with the hat improves things significantly, but theres a lot of play

[terse venture]

on the Q3 and Q Pro controller I'm experiencing the same

[dawn elk]

Not amazingly, as ragesaq is mentioning, but it holds
Feel the cups arent all that great for index

[royal wagon]

i just wobbled it a little and it pulled it out

[dawn elk]

the strap has not let go on me once yet
though its not tight either

[dry merlin]

The idea is that you hold the controller and the mount as a whole. I'm getting off now due to the time difference but feel free to tag us in stuff and we'll take a look when the ssun comes back around 🙂

[royal wagon]

the silicone or whatever material that is supposed to hold the cup in place against the metal bar doesnt really get narrow enough to provide any kind of stability to the controller

[terse venture]

I tried in on the Quest 3, Quest Pro, Quest 1, Pico Neo 3 and Pico 2 controllers, they just wiggle in there. I feel like I am doing something wrong

@dry merlin I'll play around with it and see if I can get it where it feels somewhat secure. If not, I could send detailed pictures/videos of all different controllers if that helps

[royal wagon]

i mean the video has it strapping the "hat" in

[lean hare]

Is that even possible with the index controllers

[royal wagon]

https://youtu.be/y-eDFDlLn78?t=182

timestamped

[lean hare]

Like the index controllers are long right? If you were holding the cup and the controller together you wouldn’t be reaching the buttons

[royal wagon]

the part of your hand that holds the cup to the controller is the pinky, it works but it doesnt feel tremendously stable

[lean hare]

I think he’s saying the disc on top of the trunk is a glued on retainer, and you’re supposed to just be using the trunk as the retaining pin, like in vanished pic

[dawn elk]

im not able to clamp onto the cup with enough force using just my pinky, even though thats the only part getting in contact with the cup

[royal wagon]

that would make more sense but it does seem like an area that would be prone to unhooking, maybe its not that big of a deal

[royal wagon]

very little of the cup makes good contact with the index controller, its very loose even at extreme tightness

it needs a squishy layer on both sides of the metal bar

[honest canopy]

Wait have they started shipping the mamut raidrs yet

[dawn elk]

yup

[honest canopy]

I’m waiting on mine

[dawn elk]

ive got mine

[royal wagon]

then you could get high contact surface area and probably get some decent stability

[honest canopy]

are you in north east US @dawn elk ?

[dawn elk]

EU

[honest canopy]

Ah ok

[terse venture]

I experience the same with the 4 controllers I just mentioned, it's not only the index controllers

[honest canopy]

is there a way to track the order at least does anyone know

[royal wagon]

you can track your order when you get the order shipment email

if you dont have one yet you have to wait until you do

[terse venture]

I received mine today in the EU (NL), you'll probably get it soon

[dawn elk]

..I have it? xd

[royal wagon]

i got mine in southwestern US today

[dawn elk]

also NL

[royal wagon]

hmm i can probably improve hte stability of the center piece by having it at an X angle instead of a + angle

[dawn elk]

wym?

[royal wagon]

the little wings ont he edge where it grooves into place

having them in a straight up/down/left/right cross angle like a + puts a lot of the lever force on the disconnect piece

maybe an X orientation would fairebetter

[dawn elk]

hmm not really sure what part you're refering to

[royal wagon]

the middle joint

hm, feels about the same. its rather easy to accidentally disconnect

im trying to size it like a rifle with the butt, i think thats just too much leverage. ill try it scott style without

[dry merlin]

Yeah thats a matter of preference, mostly how easy the user would think it is to lock back into, we just lined it up to the logos in assembly and just thought that heavy users would figure it out as they go. Now bed!

[dawn elk]

going to try buttless as well i think

[shy mulch]

Same thing. I ordered it on the 23rd within the first hour it was announced. I haven’t even received any shipping info yet 🤦🏼‍♂️

[dawn elk]

they didn't quite nail the first come first serve 😆

[terse venture]

🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱

[terse venture]

I did this as well, it helps a lot

[royal wagon]

offsets the lever force a bit

[rich ocean]

That is literally the most funny thing I've heard in a while. Figure it out on your own. You guys designed the thing right? Those are customers it should be clear on how to use that thing. And by the looks of it it's just too shallow design of the cup to provide stability. It looks flimsy.

[royal wagon]

putting it on the small little wing makes it pop off

[terse venture]

I honestly don't see a reason for it to be better without, are you just curious or?

[rich ocean]

Is there any soft padding inside of the cup ? Maybe it would help to put some rubber spongy pads.

[dawn elk]

yeah want to see how it does

[royal wagon]

lowers the leverage force, the middle joint is not good for bracing against the shoulder

[royal wagon]

inside? no, theres a clever piece of silicon that mounts to the metal part, and its got some wide parts of the strap side to help hug the controller

except... it doesnt hug the controller, theres almost no contact

[dawn elk]

the cups scratched my controllers up pretty good

[royal wagon]

most of the contact is against the metal spine of it and the shape of it doesnt keep the controller in place

so it just kinda rocks

dang, i just looked and ive got some scratches too

brand new controllers

[dawn elk]

damnn

[royal wagon]

if the silicone cup piece went on both sides of the metal spine, that could help a lot

[dawn elk]

mine are old and beat up anyway, not too bothered about it
got bad grip sensors as well

[terse venture]

the X rotation instead of the default + is just a slight improvement imo, it's nice that the stock allows you to change it to your liking. I feel different about the controller holders, but to be fair, that's not what he was talking about in that message

[dawn elk]

I still dont quite get the x vs + rotation thing 😅 mind sending a picture for that?

[terse venture]

I think the metal should have been coated with some sort of tpu/rubber to prevent scratches

[dawn elk]

wait how does that change anything 🤔

[royal wagon]

it slightly changes the force distribution

magnets are weak against lever and sheer forces

[terse venture]

there are 4 tabs, if it's an X is have more to lean agains

yes, what Rage said haha. it's hard to explain using just text

[dawn elk]

think I get it, though I'm not sure how to achieve it
it can only lock in one way no?

[royal wagon]

theres a retention pin on the side of the middle joint

loosten it up and rotate it, or, rotate both of the cups

[terse venture]

It takes less pressure to make this bend

Compared to this

[royal wagon]

it still doesnt take much force to break the magnets seal

[dawn elk]

ahhh ok, requires adjustment

makes sense I couldnt get it

though I'm not really having any issue with that joint, thats rock solid

my controllers just dont mount that solid to the tube

[royal wagon]

have you used any other gunstocks?

[dawn elk]

no

[royal wagon]

i think we have a different definition of rock solid

[terse venture]

Yes, you could loosen this grub screw and turn it 45 degrees, on both sides

[dawn elk]

ah ok 😅

[royal wagon]

like it connects

that parts fine, but you have two big levers in your hands

the angle of deflection to break the magnet seal is nto very high because you have two long parts of a lever connected to your hands where all of the forces generate

[dawn elk]

yeah I see, the disconnect angle lines up with pushing very lightly on the controller cups

doesn't bother me (yet), though could be a nice change to remember

[dry merlin]

just turn the controllermounts take 2 sec, ok NOW i sleep

[dawn elk]

haha go to bed you

[royal wagon]

without the butt the lever forces are a bit lower

it feels a little bit better

the butt and added length of the rear tube adds a lot of force

the butt isnt light

[dawn elk]

ill defo try without butt tomorrow
did you swap out the tube also? or just remove the butt

[royal wagon]

i swapped the tube, the non-butt tube is too short to effectively make use of the butt

but from what scott has said about stocks for some time, it was designed with no butt in mind because he preferred going without

[dawn elk]

my back-hand was definitely feeling that butt, quite heavy

I mainly wanted/bought the butt for a third point of contact when sniping

[royal wagon]

the butt isnt that heavy, but its at the end of a long tube, so more force

[dawn elk]

if I want to try buttless, can I just leave the long tube in, or does it make a big difference to swap that back also

[royal wagon]

i think it will lose some of the maneuverability its intended to have

like its a very different style, but i can see it

[dawn elk]

hmm fair

[royal wagon]

im going to try it no butt, i think my muscle memory is working against the design badly

but thats what i intended to do

i just bought the butt to try both

no butt will make me use it differently, and probably more in line with the design goals

[dawn elk]

I have none of that really
my main 'issues' are the controllers not mounting very solidly, and my back hand starts to hurt quite quickly due to the butt weight, leveraged over the length of the tube

[royal wagon]

yeah

shouldering it is not feeling great

[dawn elk]

shouldering is not too bad for me really

the metal is a bit rough though

might throw a sock over the butt

[rich ocean]

What are you talking about? Read my message I'm referring to the fact that there is an issue with how controllers are mounted with the cup and the fact that they blame people for not being creative with it DUH... That's not how you conduct business I'm sorry.

[dawn elk]

the x / + different or being 'creative' is entirely separate from the poor controller mounting though?

[royal wagon]

yes

i dont know that the benefits are so much so that its worth saying the + orientation is "wrong"

there could be other downsides that ive not experienced yet in my testing

[dawn elk]

honestly it might help if the spine / cup is taller in the back only
this would help hold on to it, rather than only holding a low part with your pinky
and shouldnt mess with any sensors, for index at least

no nvm

[wary rock]

@royal wagon what do you think you should do when you get the stock out of the box, what changes?

[royal wagon]

dunno yet, i need to try using it for a few hours

[dawn elk]

For now imma keep the butt on, and first give it a few hours before already changing things up
it is me first stock after all, need to give it some time
I did get it with the 'main' intention of sniping, so ideally I want to work it out with butt

[terse venture]

I brought that issue up myself, but thanks for reminding me what we were talking about sir. the “creative” comment was not about that, it was about slightly improving the sturdiness of the 2 parts that are hold together by magnets. But I see how you could miss that if you just read a couple messages instead of the full conversation. It’s alright, I just don’t see what value your message should have brought to that conversation

[royal wagon]

tbh with sniping you really want 4 points of stability

[dawn elk]

dont even got that >.<

was alreadt doing considerably better today, took it out for like an hour

[royal wagon]

correct, its not intended for that

[dawn elk]

so I shoulve gone magtube after all maybe

[hidden totem]

does anyone have a model for a 3d printable gunstock that dosen't need extra parts? i can't afford a real one and i'm not skilled enough to model one myself.

[dawn elk]

ah well, I do want to use it for more than just sniping obviously, probably still not a bad choice
might not be the best sniping option, but could still be the best all-round option

[royal wagon]

4 points of stability is important for high precision

and also speed

[dawn elk]

even just having that butt in my shoulder made very nice difference

[royal wagon]

its certainly an improvement over freehand

what i like about the magtube and 4 points of stability designs, is that i already know how to aim where im looking without thinking

i can go from rifle in any position to shooting where i am looking in a rather fast period of time

the 4 points of stability forces it into a specific orientation

i pull it in and its fast as well as stable

[rich ocean]

Whatever man I just did not understand why was the comment about my stock there. I don't need to have it to ask questions. There should be clear instructions on this device and intended use you know why? And again it's not about the joint I just pinned the guy that was his last message. Because if you damage your equipment or gunstock the can tell you that u used it against the intended use. Design looks very interesting I'm interested in buying one in future.

[royal wagon]

muscle memory turns it into a reaction

https://clips.twitch.tv/SwissCooperativeScorpionTakeNRG--EITUI6IyMoV9uby

[dawn elk]

damn yeah

that bigscreen beyond though 😍

Ma dude could snipe a dude in the balls at 280 meters with that pixel density

[topaz summit]

What gun stock is that?

[royal wagon]

magtube, ragesaq edition mk2

[fossil isle]

Search for mrtass quickaim

[dawn elk]

Also just to make sure I'm understanding it correctly,
third point of contact is the shoulder butt, and that fourth point would be the cheeck weld?

[royal wagon]

yes

[topaz summit]

I'm looking for a gun stock would u recommend? (I have never had a gun stock)

[royal wagon]

cheek provides top position stability stability, pulling the butt into the shoulder privdes rear bracing and some side stability, holding it with two hands provides angular stability

[royal wagon]

yes

[topaz summit]

Ok thanks for the help I'm look into them

[topaz summit]

Do u know of any other ones around $75 to $80?

[royal wagon]

no

[upper urchin]

there's @hollow zinc Ultibrace. I've never used it, but some on this channel swear by it. There's the RAIDR (once again, never used it). If you REALLY need something the Glistco Magni will work, but if you play regularly and want top performance, you're just going to end up replacing it. Otherwise, I would say make a DIY stock for cheap and save up for a Magtube or Mamut Apto.

[gusty breach]

https://ghostsoftabor.com/ is this right place where to buy stock

[dawn elk]

Where are you located?

Its sold on the GoT website, and the Mamut website
depending where you are, one or the other is better to order from

[gusty breach]

Mass

[limpid swan]

If my gunstock isn't here by tomorrow I'm driving 4 and a half hours to Memphis to have a nice chat with USPS the milkman

[half spade]

has anyone in NA East gotten their raidrs yet?

or an email at least

[gusty breach]

How long ago did you order it

[limpid swan]

Day one, like 3 minutes after release because I couldn't find my wallet fast enough so I took my wife's lol

[gusty breach]

So should I buy it from somewhere else?

[gusty breach]

Wait when the hell was day one

[dawn elk]

Where abouts is that? 😅

[gusty breach]

USA

[dawn elk]

Then GoT site is fine

[gusty breach]

How long does it take to ship

[limpid swan]

The preorder release date like ~2-3months ago.

[gusty breach]

oh my god

That is actually horrible

https://ghostsoftabor.com/

Is that from this site?

[dawn elk]

I ordered on January 18th, received today

[gusty breach]

Vanished

From that one right?

[dawn elk]

no, I'm in europe and thus ordered from Mamut

[gusty breach]

Bro

[dawn elk]

https://www.mamutvr.com/products/tabor-raidr-base-set

[limpid swan]

That's one I used

[gusty breach]

When does next batch ship

And is there an option for faster shipping cuz ain’t no way I’m waiting 2 months

[limpid swan]

It's going in waves right now. I only had to wait because I pre-ordered. I knew I would be waiting for q1 release when I purchased.

[gusty breach]

When is next wave

And is there a better option of a stock for ghost of tabor?

That won’t take as long

[limpid swan]

Not sure how they will be handling them but now that preorder is no longer here, I assume purchasing one will only be a matter of weeks for a wait. I could be wrong though, just speaking on assumptions here.

[dawn elk]

Since RAIDR started shipping (#📈・socials message) it shouldn't be 2/3+ months anymore
any order before that was a pre order, and those customers knew it would be anywhere in Q1

[limpid swan]

The butcher ($110) or the tomahawk ($170) both made by skolvr look absolutely amazing and confirmed to work well with GoT

https://skolvr.com/products/butchervr?variant=48960251986246

[gusty breach]

Holy bruh how do I miss the batch bruh

By literally 2 days

[limpid swan]

No shot skol in here? The man, the myth!

[gusty breach]

How often do batches drop

[limpid swan]

The GoT batch? And idk they just released this week.

[gusty breach]

Oh shoot

If you had to guess how often

[limpid swan]

Guessing on how most smaller companies would do it, they will do it based on orders. They get a list of orders, order the parts, ship the product out in a matter of a couple-few weeks. But this is totally my unprofessional opinion based on how I think it's approached lol

[gusty breach]

I might as well just order now then huh

[rich ocean]

It all depend on how many they sold in preorder and before your order...... Mate calm down it's normal it takes a while they just released that thing. There is a long list of people who already ordered and nobody knows him many. Your guess is as good as ours

[dawn elk]

if you know that you want the raidr, there is zero sense in 'waiting for a batch'
ordering sooner has no real downsides, while you could miss that batch you're waiting on

[gusty breach]

Alr bet

Sorry it’s just that I suck at the game so imma get it to see if it makes me better

[dawn elk]

from my very short experience, a gunstock wont make you better, but helps good players remain consistent
its not a cheat code to aim, it helps stabilize

[pure crown]

Any suggestions on good gunstocks that are cheepish

[rich ocean]

I felt much better when aiming as a noob but much more flimsy and clunky in literally anything else. Reloading and grabbing stuff takes some time to get used to

[woeful trout]

How long in tell the ghost of tabor gunstock is shipping?

[rich ocean]

DIY

[dawn elk]

shipping started, some customers already have it

[pure crown]

I was thinking abt that

[woeful trout]

Finally ty

[rich ocean]

Google it might find what you want

[pure crown]

I might (with permission from op) remake this

[rich ocean]

Why would you need permission? I mean make it as you like it it won't be exactly the same anyways plus you won't sell it. Although it's nice that you ask.

[pure crown]

I'd prefer to ask tbh only because I saw someone make something and I made it and they asked for money every day and spammed me because I "stole there thing"

[topaz summit]

Ok thank u

[topaz summit]

And I have enough money I just need to save up for something

Has anyone tried this gunstock and if u have is it worth it?

[limpid swan]

It looks pretty bad tbh but I've never used one lol

[limpid swan]

More or less the same price for the official GoT raidr gunstock

[topaz summit]

K I'm just looking for a cheap one bc I have enough for a good one but I have more important stuff to save up for (I looked them up and there like 140$ or something like that)

IL look it up agian rq

[limpid swan]

It's 70$ without the buttstock which looks easy to find an alternate butt for it. Altogether it's 100$ for the entire set. I don't think shipping was that much more iirc.

[topaz summit]

Well I kinda need the buttstock but I just looked on Amazon (I didn't think about many other sites tell rn)

When I shoot real guns without a but stock I'm so unstable but when I have one I'm pretty stable so

[half spade]

anyone know what hours of the day they are shipping the raidr? im starting to get worn out checking my email every 20 minutes lol

[topaz summit]

Are they ment to ship today?

[half spade]

they started shipping monday and tuesday

[topaz summit]

Oh

[half spade]

im guessing that the ones from the GoT shop are getting sent to NA East last

[limpid swan]

Luckily for us this is for controllers and not a gun with recoil lol but I feel you, the butt stock is ideal. There aren't many out there for this decent of a price unless you get one from an at home supplyer or a specific website from what I've seen.

[half spade]

cause i aint seen crap about mine yet but southwest us and uk have alr gotten theirs

[limpid swan]

When did you order again?

[topaz summit]

True, I have played other shooting games like povalov shack and I'm so unstable trying to shoot

[delicate quail]

Eeh. I wouldnt use it

[half spade]

GoT shop

december 28th

[delicate quail]

Controllers on top of the thing that connects them is always better

[topaz summit]

True

I've watched a few videos on some cheaper ones like no one said they are worth it and about how it should connect on the top instead (I did it while talking )

[limpid swan]

Was that preorder day? I forgot 😅

[pulsar birch]

i ordered mine within a couple hours of pre order on the 23rd of dec and i live in the south west US and havent got a shipping email i dont think theyre shipping by region or even first come first serve hahahhaha

[half spade]

i think it might be that only the mamut sites gotten it yet

[delicate quail]

I use a gunstock more on the cheaper side. It works well but build quality is questionable. Ive had a screw come loose almost making it a split stock and the thing that holds the sling broke so i uh “fixed” it

[half spade]

i wish theyd make an announcement saying that theyre starting to ship them from the GoT shop

[limpid swan]

I ordered same day like a few minutes after they announced preorder and I got email Tuesday saying I'll get mine Friday.

[topaz summit]

How much is it and what's the name?

[delicate quail]

I think like 80 or so let me check

[half spade]

if you dont mind saying, what area of the world are you in

[topaz summit]

Oh whats the name?

[delicate quail]

The magni stock+ if you have the money though id go for one with better quality

[limpid swan]

I live in the south of USA. I ordered off the GoT website.

[delicate quail]

I can feel the cheap chinese 3d print in it

[delicate quail]

(Might be exaggerating it a bit though it does work nicely)

[half spade]

i feel like they just got a lot of orders and everyone (including me) is thinking, "not many people ordered this stock so it should be fast"

[delicate quail]

I can hit 100+ meter shots with an ak so

[topaz summit]

I do have money but I'm saving up for something alse and I think I should invest in a gun stock I'm looking to spend $75 to $85 max

[delicate quail]

The raidr + the buttstock for it is like 100 usd

[limpid swan]

I already told him

[delicate quail]

Personally id save for that

[topaz summit]

Ik

[topaz summit]

Is this the one u have?

[limpid swan]

It's only 15$ more than your 85$ limit. Honestly it would be well worth waiting for imo

[delicate quail]

Yea

[pulsar birch]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-2746084063819743383

[delicate quail]

Yeah.

[delicate quail]

15$ for the additional use of 1 handed quickly is great

[half spade]

im chill with waiting, itd be nice if they said something about it existing though

[delicate quail]

Not bulky or anything

For me its kinda a pain looting with it

[limpid swan]

Plus this one has issues with some GoT guns from what I've heard

[topaz summit]

So u wouldn't recommend unless I can't get a different one?

[delicate quail]

Yea

[rich ocean]

That's a kid that does not understand how it works. And if you don't share the built process or parts list or any other thing what's the problem I don't get it. Only difficult thing with any gunstock is how to attach controllers to any kind of frame you can imagine. If you can figure that out you are golden. There are few school of thought used atm. You have right hand attached permanent left free with some sort of hook or cup for it when you want to aim. Magnetic cups bottom mounted. Magnetic rings or whatever you call it top mounted or something like raidr where you essentially have two pieces attached to controller that when connected make a gunstock. It ain't rocket science and if you have 3d printer or a friend that has one you can make it however you like.

[delicate quail]

Its does what its supposed to do but others do it better

[delicate quail]

Also the controller attachments cracked for me so

[topaz summit]

Is the GoT raidr gunstock worth the extra money?

[pure crown]

Shit I forgot that I had a 3D printer

[pulsar birch]

i agree bro not having a confirmation email is concerning lmaoooo but i have faith in CWS

[delicate quail]

Def even though i haven’t personally used it 15$ for more quality and use is good

[limpid swan]

I'm only trying to tell/help you! 😂

[topaz summit]

K I will do some research on it and I'll be back.

[rich ocean]

If you don't and it's sarcasm you still have options it just going to take more time

[limpid swan]

Bro same though 😂

[pure crown]

No I mean like dead ass I fucking forgot I had one

[topaz summit]

Well I didn't want to spend that much I'm still saving up for a decent pc rn I'm spending 750 ish (mostly used parts)

[limpid swan]

I understand, I'm only joshing. I get more opinions help make better decisions. I honestly hope you find the one that'll be worth it to you. I just know the extra price your spending, it will really make a difference in your gameplay. This one is made for easy access to grab loot. Most stocks are built for games where you hold the gun 95% of the time

[lean hare]

I thought of printing one, but by the time I’d buy new filament and all of the hardware, I’d probably not be far off from buying someone else’s tried and true design

[topaz summit]

Oh ok I can't buy a pc for a few weeks maybe less I need to move soon so I can probably spend that extra and then pay for that bit with my next paycheck

[lean hare]

I ordered one of the Ultistock kits today from BrandoDrumVR, I’m pretty excited to get it

[pure crown]

True

[limpid swan]

I was going to consider 3d printing the buttstock and only buying the gunstock part for the raidr but I figured helping the team and getting the full official set would just be nicer overall.

[hollow zinc]

Can't wait to get it to you buddy

[lean hare]

Woah 👋 I’m very excited to check it out!

[granite grail]

Just fyi. I emailed support asking about status for Raidr. I preordered from the GoT site. Never got confirmation email. Response was good though:

The gunstock was a pre-order so it does take a bit of time to ship it. We just received the gunstocks this week and we started shipping them.
You should get an email whenever we get to your order. We are going through the orders by shipping numbers so the ones ordering it in December gets theirs first for ordering first.
We should get to your order pretty quick though!

[rich ocean]

What hardware you need you can use some sort of pipe or broomstick as a skeleton and 3d print cups and joints. Hardware you need a few neodymium magnets a box of nut and bolt combo and go to town with it. I would just buy 3d model of cup for your headset

[lean hare]

Metric hardware is expensive, most peoples design are made to use metric hardware

[limpid swan]

Nice. I believe my order number was in the 1000's and I ordered immediately when the site opened it up for purchase lol I got my email Monday or tuesday

[rich ocean]

Dunno I am EU so for me metric is the way to go anyways

[granite grail]

Mine was 102XX, I ordered last week

[lean hare]

US, we pay a premium for metric hardware for some stupid reason

SAE hardware is pennies for nuts and bolts, some metric stuff you’ll pay a dollar or two each

[topaz summit]

Quick question

[limpid swan]

Ask away

[lean hare]

My point is I don’t think I would far off in cost printing my own. My printer hasn’t been used in a few years, and I’ve moved houses since I last used it, would probably basically need completely retuned. Wouldn’t have been worth it for me

[topaz summit]

It helps with recoil in the game right?

[limpid swan]

No it helps with your irl steadyness which in turn would make it easier to control - no irl stock will help the guns recoil

[topaz summit]

Ok, I just watched a video about a gun stock about what they recommend (I'm probably gonna get the one u said but) they said some gunstocks help with recoil so I thought I might as well ask u

[lean hare]

You can only mitigate in game recoil by pulling the gun down, no stock will do that for you

[topaz summit]

True

[limpid swan]

they most likely meant steadiness or control and not recoil if I were to guess

[topaz summit]

And its nice that u make the gunstock half of its normal size and reattach it

[limpid swan]

Yessss. The reattachment is the first I've seen of it's kind. Though I'm kind of new to the whole gunstock scene lol

[royal wagon]

just dinked around with the raidr for a while

the wobble really kills it, and what it does to your grip, my pinkies hurt

[topaz summit]

Do u have the raidr gunstock?

[royal wagon]

i could see some benefits over freehand, but the way the cup mates with the index controller is bad for stability and comfort of holding your controllers

[topaz summit]

Do u recommend the raidr gunstock?

[royal wagon]

no

if the cups were improved i could revise my opinion

[topaz summit]

I've had 2 or 3 people recommended it today so Im thinking about it

[royal wagon]

the problem with the way the cups interface with the controller cause all of your non-shooting actions to be worsened, there is a lot of slop in the way it mounts in and it constantly detracts from moving your hands around

[topaz summit]

I'm gonna do more research on it before I buy it

[royal wagon]

i was able to get the physical calibration to the point where i felt like i had a reasonably comfy aiming position

[rose otter]

That'skinda how I feel about the Protube tbh. Everything non-shooting I do takes so much longer, and transitioning between them is so slow

[royal wagon]

but i kept feeling like i was freehanding without any added stability

[topaz summit]

Oh

[rose otter]

Shooting it feels fantastic, although the calibration screws with me at least once a session

[royal wagon]

i kept wanting more, my precision was a lot lot slower than protube

i did freehand for a half hour afterwards and felt like it was on the same level as the raidr

and i never freehand. thats more freehand shooting than ive done in 7 years

the raidr added some additional stability while posed, but not sight acquisition

some of that is my muscle memory not being developed for raidr, some of that from the wobble in the controllers/tubes

i cant fix the wobble in the tubes, the design would need to be changed for that

plus its scratching up my controllers from light use

light use

[topaz summit]

I'm completely new to the gun stocks but and I'm gonna I will spend up to $100 and that's the main one I've been getting recommended (ik I said $80 ish but IL spend a slight bit more for a actually good one I have experience buying cheap things in the past)

[limpid swan]

I don't yet but I will tomorrow

[royal wagon]

this was about an hour of screwing around with physical fitment and figuring out sizing, and about 90 minutes of playing. this is frankly unacceptable

[limpid swan]

Was this with your wobbly steam VR controller or quest 2/3?

[royal wagon]

index, so perfect tracking

thet way the controller fits into the cup is not good

[topaz summit]

Is it recommended for the index?

[royal wagon]

most gunstock designs will have a much more precise fitting controller mount that is waaaay less wobbly

like, this is worst in class quality for cup fitment

[topaz summit]

Is it recommended for a index controller?

[limpid swan]

Same feeling for the quest controllers?

[royal wagon]

thats what others have told me, i dont imagine how it wouldnt be the case

its basically rubber banded to a thin metal rod

gross analogy, but i cant think of a better one

[topaz summit]

Hmm

[limpid swan]

Lol well thanks for the image. We will see tomorrow. I plan on making a video on how it feels for someone who has never used a gunstock before lol

[royal wagon]

thats where all of your controller -> stock stability is coming from

the silicone sleeve is clever, but it needs to be two sided

[topaz summit]

Do u have any u might recommend for $100?

[royal wagon]

i dont, and i recommend avoiding the ones under that price point as i dont think they provide sufficient value

at least the ones i am familiar with

im trying hard to give this thing a fair shot. i can see some benefits over freehanding, but there are too many problems

[warm jewel]

damn ragesaq debunking the apprently ‘best gunstock for tabor’

mad respect 🫡

[dawn elk]

I will be giving the Raidr a good go as it's my only stock, and I want to enjoy it
But it's not looking too hot yet
The fact that basic usage scratches up index controllers badly is beyond me

[topaz summit]

Well I'm gonna spend like 750 on a pc soon so I don't want to spend that much and I usually get like $100 a pay check I can't work a lot bc my age and it's really slow right now where I work I and that's also another reason

[royal wagon]

i know this has been scotts desired design, and i can see the advantages of a style like that, but this aint it

[warm jewel]

would u say it’s not worth it ?

@royal wagon

[royal wagon]

im having a hard time answering that question right now, ill try it out here and there more, and maybe talk with the powers that be about my recommended changes. i think theres a good idea here

[topaz summit]

Ok

I can't find any reviews on it so (isn't it on pre order still?)

[dawn elk]

My take away is that early impressions arent particularly solid, but there is certainly something to work with
It also doesn't fit ragesaq's style, but might work wel for others, hard to tell with so few customers who have it in hand and are active here.
Though the controller cups just aren't great

I've used it in tabor and pavlov
Didn't like it in pavlov, but I don't really like Pavlov either so I'll skip that one
In tabor, it was pretty great. Have not used it with enough variaty yet to really speak, though it was certainly better than free handig

[warm jewel]

damn do u think it would be a issue for quest 3 controllers

[limpid swan]

Well rn I've only heard about index complaints and not really much about the quest controllers. But from the clips of proper d using it, it looks fantastic.

[warm jewel]

what was the issue in pavlov

[dawn elk]

The clips are great
Think someone in the Mamut discord was talking about similar experience with quest controllers

[dawn elk]

Idk pavlovs just not really my style, it's more point firing than actually aiming, I was trying to do the opposite with the stock
Didn't work out

[warm jewel]

were the guns not@working or what, since i play pavol quite a bit with my friends

[limpid swan]

Well that's something to note.

[dawn elk]

Think pavlov is just better playes free aim

[warm jewel]

oh

[limpid swan]

My problem with contractors showdown

[dawn elk]

Nah it worked fine in that sense, there's not even any setting for stock, it just works

Don't see how a stock helps pavlov though

[delicate quail]

Too fast paced. I like tabor’s changes making it slower paced

[warm jewel]

true that

[warm jewel]

much like tarkov one can say

[jovial zinc]

about how long does it take to ship after odering?

[dawn elk]

The few raids I did run with Raidr were sniping, and that was pretty good
Want to run some AR tomorrow, spray some poor fellas down with an alpha at 150m and see how that does

[warm jewel]

iv got an important ass uni exam tomorrow and i’m here inquiring about a stock that’s gonna arrive in a week@

[warm jewel]

would u say long range is much better with the stock@?

[topaz summit]

On quest?

[dawn elk]

My aim was definitely less shaky

[warm jewel]

with free hand i’d always waste 4-5 bullets tryna take down a scab or a player standing still

[dawn elk]

Pcvr

[warm jewel]

cause the sight would@move@too much

[topaz summit]

Oh what controllers?

[warm jewel]

would that still be a issue with this new stock

[warm jewel]

he has index

[dawn elk]

index controllers

[topaz summit]

Oh I've heard shit about it on index controllers but not much about it on quest

[dawn elk]

There's still recoil, obviously

[warm jewel]

true that , i guess getting a stock ain’t gonna change much but let’s hope@for the best

since i gave up trying to learn free hand everytime i aimed; id waste 2-3 seconds either trying to align the iron sights or trying to find the reticle on the scope@

before that i’m mostly dead, but in cases where im not after 2 shots and some recoil it’s finding waldo all over again

[topaz summit]

Well I can't stay stable with out a stock as if my fucking life depends on it so

I kinda need a gun stock I think

[dire frost]

🤨 Holy shit. I'd be pissed

[royal wagon]

My complaints aren’t around the style being different, I wouldn’t mind trying a good implementation of that style. But the controllers need to be solid for the benefits to be felt. We don’t get that here.

[dawn elk]

The cups really are just the main issue

[royal wagon]

It is

If the shroud that went on the spine went around the whole spine so the strap could hug the controller in a tighter way it could be a different story

[topaz summit]

Anyone got a good gun stock for Quest 2 ( $100 max pls)
(Also I've looked at the raider gun stock and I've heard some bad shit and some good shit so) for quest 2

[royal wagon]

Asking it a million times to people who have been around gunstocks for close to a decade is not going to yield new answers

[dawn elk]

Instead of just the band, you're talking about the whole rubber piece wrapping around?

[topaz summit]

Fair

[royal wagon]

Yeah

[dawn elk]

Would cover far too much of the grip sensor I'm afraid

Index is just an odd controller to mount, curious how other stocks do it

[royal wagon]

No more than what is already covered

A good grip around the controller mounted to metal should make the controller a lot more stable and secure

Just avoid the low contact metal on controller

That had limited stability due to a non conforming shape

[dawn elk]

Some second revision parts, or modding could certainly fix the issues

[royal wagon]

So far it’s worse at non-shooting activities, worse at shooting, slower at snap aiming, but in some situations its marginally better at transitioning between the two

Non shooting could be improved with more stable controllers

[dawn elk]

I feel it'll be hard for the stock to be great at non-shooting
Front hand is fine, but back hand is too bulky for me with the buttstock hanging there

[royal wagon]

It was better without

The weight increases the wobble of the back hand a ton

[dawn elk]

I want to try buttless, but not before giving it a proper go

[royal wagon]

Adding the butt made the stability of the center mount pretty bad for me

[topaz summit]

Is that the main problem u found?

[royal wagon]

Too easy to disconnect accidentally

[royal wagon]

Please take the effort to read my comments, I’ve been quite specific and articulate

With pros and cons about the design choices

[dawn elk]

I've not had any issues like that, and like the contact point
Though the butt is just too heavy

[topaz summit]

Mb I was just about to do a raid with someone so I haven't been here (they haven't added me back yet) so mb

[dawn elk]

Might look into 3d printing one 🤔

[royal wagon]

The way the Magtube snaps in is just so ridiculously solid

One controller on and I can violently, violently shake the whole stock and it goes nowhere

[brisk zealot]

Any home made ones for inspiration?

[royal wagon]

And the attachment is flawless. It always goes into the slot properly, instantly, on the first time

The magnet is probably 10x the strength

[dawn elk]

Raidr without controllers is also perfectly solid, getting a better mounting to that spine would solve a lot

[royal wagon]

You can get the magnet force connection on the mamut design but you can misalign

I had that a few times but my aim was not significant affected, though the level the stock gets to is not super high

[topaz summit]

Has anyone played the Raidr with quest 2 controllers and is there any noticeable problems?

[royal wagon]

From what I hear the provlems are the same, it’s not terribly stable

[topaz summit]

Hmm ok

[astral niche]

Mount wise or just as a consequence of no cheek weld?

[dawn elk]

Mount wise

[half spade]

if you do go with a one hand, if you can print it all on the bed then its too short

[astral niche]

Shame. I still want to try it but I was keeping an eye out

[dawn elk]

What?

[royal wagon]

The mount

[dawn elk]

Was talking about printing a butt for the Raidr, that part would definitely fit
And the weight savings could be well worth it

[royal wagon]

It’s a thin metal piece not shaped to fit closely to the controller shape, and there is a shroud that connects to the metal piece that wraps around the controller

It’s not a snug fit, so there is a lot of rotational and positional instability

It wobbles

[astral niche]

Don't want any of that.

[dawn elk]

It being all universal means its not snug for any controller

Every controller will fit, just not very well

[astral niche]

I'd still want to see one in person, but in builds that don't use a cheek weld absolute stability is a must in order to keep consistency

[royal wagon]

Yes. I think it’s a requirement to make a 2 or 3 point design work

[rich ocean]

How do you feel about the magnetic joint ? I feel like it could benefit from redesign if you could add twist to open I think it would be more solid dunno.

[astral niche]

I ran without a cheek weld pretty much exclusively in C$, and that was the problem I ran into with the original apto wigglyness

[royal wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099374604235055104/1215472565342969936/IMG_6774.jpg?ex=65fce009&is=65ea6b09&hm=0458dcd2d145fa1cb5fa872f2114054045633265438c7de2fef93deab204dcbc&

[royal wagon]

Yes. It’s mechanically a bit of a weak design. It’s the standard mamut magnet part though, which is why it was selected

[topaz summit]

Its universal? (I thought they made one for quest,index etc)

[dawn elk]

Universal

[topaz summit]

Oh that explains it a tiny bit more, I thought they fucked up on the measurement of the controller cups.

[lethal sinew]

Ouchies. Picked up mine. Hopefully I don't get those scuffs on the quest 2/3 controllers

[dawn elk]

Could play it safe and tape up the spine

I did that and still got scratches

[lethal sinew]

Good advice! Some masking tape should be a good idea

[dawn elk]

Got to thanks Chizy for the heads up on that one

[lethal sinew]

Roger that

[dawn elk]

I probably just didn't mask it off enough / with thick enough tape

[royal wagon]

Probably electrical tape over masking tape

[dawn elk]

Though I'm not worried about it personally, the Raidr scratching controllers is quite bad
But my controllers are already hella scuffed up, even chipping. And there's not even any paint to chip?? Idk

[dawn elk]

I just used regular ass transparent tape
Probably scratched right through it lol

[topaz summit]

Wait if I filled in the controller cup with something soft ish would that fix it? (so the controller fits good)

[astral niche]

You don't really want soft, usually that means gel or rubber, which isn't rigid enough

It's one thing using rubber on the buttstock for friction and another for controllers, which flex more

[royal wagon]

It needs to be integral to the design

Making the spine wider or having wings could reinforce that connection to make it more solid

[topaz summit]

Hmm I was thinking just shove something to one side so it would push the controller to the side)

[dawn elk]

The connection between the spine and the controller has to be rock solid

[topaz summit]

Oh ok

[royal wagon]

That’s not going to change anything

[topaz summit]

I realized that after reading what all of u had to say just now

[astral niche]

I'm not sure any integrated rubber will beat form fitting plastic, or least I haven't seen it done well yet

[rich ocean]

Velcro or grip tape for tennis 🎾 might help with the wobble or at least protect

[royal wagon]

Tennis grip tape might

[rich ocean]

It's thick tho so I don't know how little space is available but I think that's like the janky way of making it safe.

[topaz summit]

Anyone got a decent gunstock for up to $100 (with a buttstock pls) (for quest 2 also dm me pls)

[royal wagon]

Get the mag starter by Protube

[topaz summit]

IL look into it

[trim frigate]

@royal wagon You get your Raidr yet?

[royal wagon]

I did, I’ve posted a lot about it today so scroll back

[topaz summit]

Um do yk if there's a shipping cost?

[trim frigate]

Did you have to calibrate it like we talked about?

[crimson wolf]

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[crude mountain]

Selling TABOR RAIDR gunstock with buttock 80$

[trim frigate]

he got a email stating it was shipped

[trim frigate]

Why?

[crude mountain]

because i have another one being shipped

[trim frigate]

Please do! I get mine as well tomorrow

[crimson wolf]

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[topaz summit]

Is it actually as bad as I have heard?

[limpid swan]

I have work tomorrow so I will certainly try to get it out before the end of the day friday! I'm not sure where I will be dispatched but Im hoping it will be a quick day.

[crude mountain]

it’s just a gunstick with buttock. i enjoyed it just wanted something. bigger

[topaz summit]

What do u play on?

I got a question if u play on quest 2

[trim frigate]

like the order number?

[crimson wolf]

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[crude mountain]

quest 3 and the newest rift

[junior fiber]

timeless gunstock

[crimson wolf]

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[topaz summit]

Nvm to the question then

[trim frigate]

mines 95

[crimson wolf]

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[crude mountain]

why what’s up

[crimson wolf]

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[crude mountain]

if it’s because your on another platform it’s comparable

comparable*

[trim frigate]

i ordered mine on the 23rd

[neat orchid]

I can't get guns cause I'm canadain but whats your guys's every day caries

[topaz summit]

If u had a quest 2 I was gonna ask how do the controllers fit and how even is the wait and other question like that, but since quest 2 and quest 3 controllers are different wait it will be a bit different

[crimson wolf]

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[crude mountain]

dm

[neat orchid]

oh wait

this is the gunstock chat

[topaz summit]

K

[neat orchid]

whats the best gunstock for tabor on valve index

I kinda want the haptic one but I'm pretty sure that'll mess with my controll

im just looking for something that does the job good

[half spade]

anyone who didnt order the raidr on the 23rd will probably get an email in a week or two if i had to guess

[royal wagon]

Magtube is the way to go imo

[trim frigate]

it was 8$ shipping for me

[topaz summit]

Oh usa?

[rugged berry]

Does anyone have a review and/or gameplay video of the raidr stock

Besides the one on the official Tabor channel that released a few months ago

[royal wagon]

I’ll be taking it out for a spin on stream soon

[topaz summit]

Twitch?

[trim frigate]

Yeah

[trim frigate]

When i get mine i can make a video of it if that helps

[icy ledge]

Dumb question. but are gunstocks work/ are good when sitting down?

[delicate quail]

Yes

[icy ledge]

Alr thanks

[delicate quail]

Chad

[pulsar jackal]

Real

[limpid swan]

I plan on making a video the moment it arrives at my house - if I don't have work 🫠

[trim frigate]

Same ill be working from home so ill unbox it and what not

[topaz summit]

Not to bad

[topaz summit]

Oh your yt?

Anyone know of a decent gunstock for up to $100 (with a buttstock pls) pls DM me the link to it (I'm not gonna buy it used)

[trim frigate]

just get the raider

[topaz summit]

I'm gonna wait for a review video for a quest 2 and I want to hear other people's opinions and see if I hear the same stuff

[trim frigate]

yeaaah i never used a gunstock so i dont really know what im looking for lol

[topaz summit]

Lol, I'm gonna do this smart I've learned not the buy shit that I've heard bad shit about and I want to wait for a few YouTubers to do review videos on it

Like some smaller YouTubers or bigger ones I don't care a lot I just want some truthful reviews( not saying I don't trust the people I do trust u I just want more reviews and see how bad/decent/good the raidr gunstock is I just want more reviews on it)

[trim frigate]

Well im not really a YT i got some videos and shit dating back like 12 years almost LOL! But I can try my best to unbox and do like first impressions, build quality and like what it includes. Not sure what else to look for

Also if you scroll up and read ragesaq posts then you can get a pretty good insight on what it is

[topaz summit]

If u don't mind me asking how old are u now?

[trim frigate]

30

[topaz summit]

Ik that's why I want to get a few more looks at it and just get a better understanding of how bad/good this thing is

[trim frigate]

oldest video i got is 2009

[topaz summit]

Dam

I was born 2009 I'm turning 15 soon

[trim frigate]

then 2011 with minecraft which is still going strong LOL!

[topaz summit]

Whats your yt?

[trim frigate]

BLazeking558 and i just started a motovlog one too, Kenshi_R1

[topaz summit]

Ok

[topaz summit]

I also learned the hard way not to do some research on shit

Anyone got a decent gunstock for up to $100 (with a buttstock pls) I WILL NOT BUY USED DM ME (not the raidr I might get that one if I don't have a different one by then)

[pure crown]

yeh man ofc id love to see ur spin on it

[devout lion]

I received the shipping email from GOT website, I placed the order just a few hours after the preorder announcement, on December 23. It's finally on its way, yeahhh.

[pulsar birch]

Did you just get the email today?

[devout lion]

5 hours ago

[pulsar birch]

Damn okay i placed my order around the same time as you still waiting on that email tho hahahahaa

[devout lion]

Then you will surely receive it today.

[topaz summit]

Would it be smart to make a pvc gunstock and see if I like it before I buy one?

Before I spend all of my bugit on a good one (just incase I don't like it or something like that )

[mortal axle]

Ya tbh

[topaz summit]

Do u know how to make one?

[mortal axle]

Nope look it up on YouTube

[topaz summit]

Ok someone in a different server just said they can send me a website and my guess is it ways what I need and stuff but also thanks

[mortal axle]

Np

[topaz summit]

Is 20$ a decent deal for a pcv gunstock?

[turbid canyon]

I'm wondering if I should use an old airsoft rifle to make a gunstock

[topaz summit]

Hmm well one thing I can probably tell u is I've heard it's better on top not bottom but if u can figure out a way go for it

[robust pasture]

dudeeee this is lowk off topic, but i love MF DOOM too, he’s the best, nice to recognize someone who enjoys his music like me

[lethal sinew]

First impressions vid for the raidr.

TL;DR Don't need the buttstock.

https://youtu.be/xde3adZaPU4

[pure crown]

So i just got the buttstock for no reason nice

[ashen hull]

@lethal sinew ngl your review is slating the raidr, do you actually not like it that much?

[wheat yew]

I’m really starting to regret purchasing the raidr, can’t say I’ve read or seen one positive comment about it so far, mines not arrived yet but not holding out much hope

[ashen hull]

Damn

[ashen hull]

that's a fucking shame @pure crown

[pure crown]

Yeah same

People waited 2 months for this btw

[ashen hull]

Do you think it's because peoples expectations were too high perhaps?

[wheat yew]

I bought the stock attachment as well, not cheap in the slightest and given what I’m reading so far it’s awful, the fact people are having to tape up their controllers to prevent damage is mind boggling, really not a good look for CWS

[ashen hull]

😦 that sucks

[pure crown]

Yeah

[ashen hull]

?

[wheat yew]

I’ve seen at least 5/6 posts of people complaining about damage to controllers it’s simply not acceptable for a product built by a VR developer studio

[ashen hull]

it's not built by them

[pure crown]

Im really disappointed i waited 2 months for this

[ashen hull]

it's their product tho

[wheat yew]

Endorsed by them then, it’s got tabor all over it

[ashen hull]

dw bro your 7thVR arrives soon!

[pure crown]

They tested it and decided its fit to be distrubated to the public

[ashen hull]

True

[pure crown]

I might even refund it at this point

[wheat yew]

I’m honestly considering straight up returning it instead of risking damaging my controllers, I use a valve index and they’re not cheap

[pure crown]

Yeah same

I use quest 3 but still

[wheat yew]

Incredibly disappointing

[ashen hull]

Man that's really sad 😦

[pure crown]

Yeah

[ashen hull]

Maybe you can get a refund @pure crown before it arrives

[pure crown]

Mhm

[ashen hull]

£100 for a non solid product is really disappointing

[wheat yew]

Agreed, wish I’d have waited for people to review before I purchased but I thought a gun stock produced for the game itself would be solid.

[pure crown]

Yeah agreed.

[ashen hull]

@lethal sinew let me know your thoughts

[lethal sinew]

It's a first impressions video. It's very sloppy and meant to be very visceral. It's ok to be critical.

I'm sure it'll get better with time.

[ashen hull]

hmmm damn

first impressions are everything though

[lethal sinew]

Instructions say the adjusting can help with it over time

I report what I like. Free country here

[ashen hull]

I'm not slating you for not liking it dude @lethal sinew

I'm just shocked you don't like it that much haha

[lethal sinew]

Lol it's like...a 3/5

[ashen hull]

Hmm

Not so bad but like for £100?

I'd expect 4/5 minimum

[lethal sinew]

Yeah like. If you buy just the base, it's a 5/5

[ashen hull]

Really?

How come?

@lethal sinew what is BOA

[lethal sinew]

It elevates free hand users.

Like... Makes thier aim better imo.

!boa

[drowsy lodge]

BOA = Battlefield Observation & Awareness
Learn more: https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1043904291548708935 & https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1156317493699289239

[ashen hull]

Oh wow, nice!

[lethal sinew]

I volunteer to teach people how to play Tabor

[glad scroll]

@lethal sinew I saw your video you said the stock was very heavy with one hand with the buttstock, do you know how much it weights exactly with and without buttstock?

[ashen hull]

Damn

[lethal sinew]

I'm in bed now, but it was 720grams roughly with stock.

About 400-500 without.

I'll tell you tomorrow

Gnite doods

[glad scroll]

yes no problem, have a good sleep! (I forgot how late it was in your time, for me it's 11 am xD)

[topaz summit]

Talking about the raidr gunstock right?

[pure crown]

Yes

[wheat yew]

Indeed

[pure crown]

Might be worth saving up for a fully carbon magtube ?

[topaz summit]

I've heard pretty similar shit. I might build one from pvc and see if I even like them do u have any cheap ones u might be able to recommend ($100 is max I will spend for a real one I'm saving up for a pc and etc so)

[pure crown]

Check out 7thvr

Same snapping design as the raidr just 3D printed and it doesnt scratch your controller im pretty sure my friend has it

[topaz summit]

Do they have their own website?

[pure crown]

Yes.

7thvr.com

If you can't find it still https://7thvr.com

[topaz summit]

Have u used them before?

[pure crown]

My friend @ashen hull Has it. He can show you clips of him playing with it

[pure crown]

I have ordered one and its on the its way

Scammer fake link

We aren't stupid

<@&1162175624228642816>

[topaz summit]

Oh

[topaz summit]

Do yk If he does twitch or?

[pure crown]

Yeah nobody pressed on it haha

Pumba tell him about your 7th

[ashen hull]

Here bro

It's excellent mate, I literally have no complaints.

[topaz summit]

I'm the kinda of person to click oh shit like that if I'm not thinking about it

[pure crown]

Same lol

[topaz summit]

1 question do u gave quest 2 or 3?

[ashen hull]

Q3

[topaz summit]

Do yk if they have ones for Q2?

[ashen hull]

Currently not

[topaz summit]

FUCK

Well I need to find a different one ig

[pure crown]

Check out the ultistock

The owner is @hollow zinc

[topaz summit]

Is it made similar?

[pure crown]

Nope

[topaz summit]

I mean like similar looking

[pure crown]

No

[topaz summit]

Oh

There isn't a website is there?

[pure crown]

There is

[topaz summit]

I can't find it

[pure crown]

This is how it looks

[topaz summit]

I realized that...

[pure crown]

Search up ultistock on google and the first etsy link should be it

[ashen hull]

Also "BrandoVR Ultistock" works

[topaz summit]

I would like a 2 handed one tho

[ashen hull]

7th are bringing Quest 2

[topaz summit]

I was looking at his profile and found it

[pure crown]

Nice !

[topaz summit]

How long tho? if u do know

[ashen hull]

Best to ask live support

[topaz summit]

K

[ashen hull]

Idk brother I'm afraid

[topaz summit]

They said 16 to 20 days I believe

[ashen hull]

Damn! Not long then

[topaz summit]

And it should work for the quest 2 I think since quest 2 and quest 3 have the same size bottom

[topaz summit]

Do u mind If I ask one thing?

[ashen hull]

Sure dude

It doesn't work for Q2 currently

[topaz summit]

I should technically I believe

[ashen hull]

Someone ordered the Q3 which at the time said Q2 and it didn't work so they fully refunded and offered a free stock to them which I imagine they're waiting for as Q2 not out yet

But they did good by them which was good

[topaz summit]

Oh

[ashen hull]

it's since changed to only be Q3

[topaz summit]

I thought the Q3 and Q2 are very similar controllers besides the Q2 has rings and the Q3 doesn't

[ashen hull]

Not sure tbh

Best that it's modelled from it directly

[topaz summit]

Oh

[ashen hull]

just to be safe right

[topaz summit]

I might have to do some research before I buy anything alse

[ashen hull]

For sure

[topaz summit]

You be safe as well

[ashen hull]

fuck I almost just died drinking water

[topaz summit]

Oh fuck

[ashen hull]

went down the wrong hole

I coughed it out my nose... fml

[topaz summit]

Oh shit well I hope u can stay safe

Has anyone had this gun stock before I think I might want a underhand gun stock now I'm just looking into some gunstocks rn so

[dawn elk]

Might be interesting to 3d print a buttstock, get the functionality without the full metal weight

[high quail]

received mine raidr yesterday (UK) my advice so far, follow the setup instructions as i didn't the first time and it was really loose, followed the instructions are really secure now, not had any problems with scratching the controllers (quest 2) and really enjoying using it 🙂

[topaz summit]

I look it up thinking it was the other gunstock trying to find a review and I found some good ones for that (at leat off the title) and the title said it was actually decent

[dawn elk]

Buttstock or no?

[topaz summit]

Do the controllers fit tight as they should?

[high quail]

i got the buttstock, and find it makes only makes a difference for the long shots where it adds a nice bit of stability, close up with the smgs and rifles not a huge difference

[high quail]

yup, i've got some aftermarket grips on the controllers, so it's a peg less on the strap, but they are lovely and secure

[topaz summit]

What brand are the after market grips?

[topaz summit]

I haven't found any bad reviews on it so far witch is good

[ashen hull]

Best bet is to avoid stocks where the pole is above the controllers

they can kill your tracking

and make your experience not fun

[topaz summit]

I can feel a bit more realistic and I'm use to shooting real guns like that

[ashen hull]

as am I

but your controller tracking will not thank you

[topaz summit]

Oh shit is there a easy way to fix something like that?

[ashen hull]

Yeah, get a stock where the pole is under the controller

[topaz summit]

Well I can't find one that is at the right price and has some good reviews on it

[high quail]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0967ZD2WJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[topaz summit]

Ohh I use a kiwi head strap I need controller grips tho so thanks

[high quail]

can really recommend the controller grips, they fit really well, and feel so secure

they fit really nicely with the raidr as well, as you can loop the strap round it without having to take off the grips

[topaz summit]

I don't even need to watch reviews there kiwi so there gonna be nice lol

[pure crown]

Are those the kiwi grips ?

[high quail]

yes

[topaz summit]

I found one but idk if it's a good one Im gonna do my research

[pure crown]

I have them they are great

Ohhh

[topaz summit]

Do u have a kiwi head strap as well?

[pure crown]

I dont have the upgraded ones

[pure crown]

Yes

[topaz summit]

Battery pack or without?

[pure crown]

Without i play psvr so i never lose battery

[topaz summit]

Oh

I play stand alone and I managed to play 6 ish hours before it died then my quest had 75% I think I didn't play any super big games

[topaz summit]

?? Does anyone have this gunstock or used it?

It's 8blue

[pure crown]

Looks like the issues people are having with the raidr are user based because they didnt follow the instructions for assembly

Nothing to worry about

[topaz summit]

Oh shit people just being dumb or?

[pure crown]

@wheat yew

[pure crown]

Yeah they made me think the gunstcok is actually bad but it looks like they just didnt follow basic instructions

[topaz summit]

If I can find a review on this and it's good I might get this it has 1 more point of contact so

[topaz summit]

Oh I've been thinking that thing was shit but people just didn't set it up right?

[pure crown]

Yeah

[topaz summit]

And it's a slight bit cheaper

[pure crown]

Might be worth a shot buying the raidr

If you want you can wait and ill give you an honest review on the raidr

[topaz summit]

Have u heard about a brand called 8Blue or something like that?

[pure crown]

Never.

[topaz summit]

This

[pure crown]

.

[topaz summit]

I might want one before that and I want to find one that will work and be here soon and that actually have some good review videos out at this moment

[pure crown]

Then go for that one

[topaz summit]

I might I need to find reviews I can't find shit on YouTube so

[pure crown]

Get one that you will feel comfortable using that's the most important part

[wheat yew]

How so?

[topaz summit]

Or Google hmm

[high quail]

i did exactly this, it's because when it comes it looks really simple to put together, but there is a step in the instructions which you may not think about doing yourself and makes all the difference for me

[pure crown]

Some users dont have any issues at all

[high quail]

lesson learnt, follow the instructions 😛

[topaz summit]

I just realized it's bluetech

For the brand

[high quail]

after i followed the instructions, works perfect 🙂

[pure crown]

Exactly.

[topaz summit]

So u would recommend then)

[high quail]

my review after a few hours use, is yes, it's the best gunstock i've tried so far, and have trialled a few

[pure crown]

Which ones have you had ?

[wheat yew]

Fuck sake. So I see multiple posts of controller scratches and it’s all due to user error

[topaz summit]

Hmm if yk how many points of contact are there?

[pure crown]

Im glad i didnt refund

Never listen to users before you have seen all the reviews. Lesson learnt

[wheat yew]

I was going to organise a return on my lunch break

Thanks to whoever pinged me

[pure crown]

It was me haha

[wheat yew]

Cheers lad much appreciated

[pure crown]

Happy to help !

[wheat yew]

I often forget this discord is dominated by children with small attention spans who clearly don’t read instructions hahahahahahah

[topaz summit]

Does anyone know how many points of contact there are?

For the raidr gunstock

[pure crown]

True.

[dawn elk]

Are you a customer? have you experienced the issues we're having
quite a bold statement imo

the issues listed on the site that fix over time are not the issue thats being described by nearly every user

[pure crown]

@high quail

He is and he has no issues

[dawn elk]

not an index user ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pure crown]

I am a customer and my order is on its way

[dawn elk]

the screws having to be tightened first week over usage is perfectly fine
no amount of time is going to improve how the controller attaches to the spine

and that part is really wobbly, just sent a video in the mamut discord

[pure crown]

Okay then. Nothing to worry about quest 3 users !

[median cove]

woooh quest 3 users!

[pure crown]

🔥

[topaz summit]

Do u think it matters if it's quest 2 or quest 3?

[median cove]

I bought mine from the CWS website and I think it may take a while for the shipping <,> I'm at day 3 of shipping and I'm in Norway

[pure crown]

I don't think it would matter that much

[topaz summit]

Is there a shipping cost?

[pure crown]

Im at day 3 of shipping too. Ordered from Mamut vr. And i live in Bulgaria

[pure crown]

Nope

If you order from mamut