yes but migrating to another wiki software, making the index page link to the new wiki and locking the fandom would be best
#🌐・wiki-commands
hushed nebula
whole tide
You really miss a lot of context and/or information
hushed nebula
so do you
whole tide
yes but migrating to another wiki software, making the index page link to the ne...
I don't about this specific topic. The "old" Fandom wiki won't be "locked" and you won't place a link to a new wiki on the old
You act like i don't know how this works while i do and you don't, thats the problem
hushed nebula
then tell me how it works, be constructive and stop insulting me
whole tide
Where did i insult you?
hushed nebula
"you act like i dont know how this works while i do and you dont"
maybe i do know how it works
whole tide
How is that an insult
hushed nebula
how is it not an insult
youre the one who has a limited field of view for what wikis should look like
whole tide
But anyway, TLDR: Fandom won't close or lock the existing Wiki in X years
whole tide
You can read about it here https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Forking_Policy
iron raven
🐟
trail perch
I Agree
lapis bronze
neon leaf
what the fuck just happened
trail perch
A cluster fuck
I dont fully understand what happened myself i woke up 30mins ago and this gad already happend
hushed nebula
neon leaf
you were arguing that our wiki looks bad, right?
solemn thunder
Jesus christ. They started the wiki not you. They have did a good job. Stop arguing over every damn thing
neon leaf
I do agree it doesn't look great so far lol
I have no idea how to write fandom code, but orbb does
trail perch
But we are all rookies
neon leaf
except orbb
trail perch
Other then orbb
It will get better with time
As the saying goes rome wasnt built in a day
whole tide
@neon leaf You may want to read these
#🌐・wiki-commands message
#🌐・wiki-commands message
neon leaf
im gonna keep it on requiring an account, and I dont lock pages
whole tide
Noted
static sinew
@neon leaf In case you missed it:
#🌐・wiki-commands message
neon leaf
done
static sinew
Cool
neon leaf
I think our wiki still doesnt show up in search
static sinew
What search? Google?
neon leaf
the search bar in fandom
but also yeah I in google too
I have to specify site:fandom.com for it to show up there
static sinew
It's a new site with low traffic, not super surprising
Not sure why it doesn't appear on the Fandom site. It'll probably be remedied when Tots (Fandom) reaches out to Fish to get the Official tag
Otherwise we'd probably have to wait a bit or reach out ourselves.
lapis bronze
Big up south Korea
static sinew
I'm not allowed to share exact numbers, but over on the Tarkov wiki if I add up the top 10 geolocation view count like above, the number is over 20 million, so maybe my view of "low traffic" is skewed :P
neon leaf
lol
static sinew
Back in early Feb it was getting 1.3-1.5 million page views a day. Self hosting that wiki would be expensive as balls
static sinew
Hey @opal needle ! Tots (The Fandom community contact) asked me to give you his email and if you could send him an email letting him know you're interested in having the FANDOM wiki as the official one: tots@fandom.com
opal needle
sure
opal needle
Hey <@185145763980902401> ! Tots (The Fandom community contact) asked me to give...
sent :)
opal needle
somber rock
Awesome
lapis bronze
Photoshopped
static sinew
Nice! Glad you and Tots got in contact
trail perch
static sinew
If we get a top-down map I'm thinking of bringing it into and interactive and filterable format like this
You can try it out here: https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Map:Reserve
trail perch
god that would be great
neon leaf
I was checking that out
I already made the map for silo just don't have the map itself lol
I don't have unreal engine installed but I'll see if I can rip the game and port stuff to blender for screenshots
willow idol
If we get a top-down map I'm thinking of bringing it into and interactive and fi...
wow this is like the first reserve map where south is actually south and north and actually north
clear mural
If we get a top-down map I'm thinking of bringing it into and interactive and fi...
Gl with that man
Just letting you know it’s basically gonna be very difficult
static sinew
Why?
clear mural
Because there will be no maps or views ect outside the maps
And the devs ain’t releasing them
static sinew
So?
lapis bronze
Aren't most of those tarkov maps fan made
They aren't the same as the ones in game so people can just make maps for tabor
static sinew
Lighthouse, for example, doesn't have any in-game map, and as you can see it wasn't a problem
It's not like we based the maps off of the in-game map items anyways, they're shit
lapis bronze
Yea the first time I got a map in tarkov all I could think was "goddamn this is useless compared to the online ones"
The in game map doesn't show your position on the map does it? That's the only reason I'd use one of the ingame ones
static sinew
The in game map doesn't show your position on the map does it? That's the only r...
nope
clear mural
Lighthouse, for example, doesn't have any in-game map, and as you can see it was...
I making the point of an underground 3+ level map
The island of tabor does not seem bad at all to do
neon leaf
multi level maps are hard yeah
static sinew
They are more difficult, not impossible by any means though
clear mural
multi level maps are hard yeah
It’s not that tbh it’s the fact that you can’t see really any scale of things and no real above views
clear mural
I can just rip the map
You might not be able to but who knows
neon leaf
I probably can
static sinew
Yeah, I don't think it would be too hard
clear mural
and take screenshots in blender
Fair point but that’s basically the same thing as the video
static sinew
?
neon leaf
what video
clear mural
Lol there’s a tabor map overview which all you will get when ripping the game files
neon leaf
neat
clear mural
But you realize you won’t be able to get the map as a all in one piece because it’s a bunch of 3d models put together
static sinew
But you realize you won’t be able to get the map as a all in one piece because i...
That's not a problem :)
neon leaf
But you realize you won’t be able to get the map as a all in one piece because i...
I'm not too experienced with unreal engine rips but I'm sure it's not too hard, I've done plenty of rips from unity
clear mural
That's not a problem :)
That’s a overview of the map lol there is nothing like that for tabor my advice is grab a chair and sit at the top of the middle mountain and start build it from that point of view because like i have been saying there is no maps in the game
neon leaf
we could also just ask for a screenshot
clear mural
Lol I’ve already tried gl
neon leaf
okay looking into it, it looks like unreal engine is funky and wouldn't be easy to get the map out of, looks like I'll just have to map it out manually 😅
clear mural
Lol imagine not trusting the person who has been building a silo map for about 3 months
neon leaf
you didn't mention that
clear mural
Well why would I lol
static sinew
That’s a overview of the map lol there is nothing like that for tabor my advice ...
I'm really confused what you're talking about here. Both the images I showed were not images given in-game. The image on the right was the ripped map put into Unity
and the image on the left was made from the ripped map
clear mural
I'm really confused what you're talking about here. Both the images I showed wer...
There is no map in the game no where and this ain’t unity to lol
static sinew
There is no map in the game
This doesn't matter
I don't know why you keep bringing it up
neon leaf
I'm really confused what you're talking about here. Both the images I showed wer...
I've tried ripping tarkov maps myself, oh boy it's annoying
AFAIK there's no way to just rip one map so you have to rip the whole game
clear mural
Also it is unreal which is worse
neon leaf
after some research it seems it's impossible to do this in unreal engine due to every version being different.
static sinew
GoT uses Custom UE4.27
neon leaf
and also just having no tools for reconstructing map data on that specific version, unless there is one
opal needle
I'm sure we can throw ya a top down image of the island, but it's a lot more difficult with the silo because of the in-door verticality
like it would actually take time to slice up the vertical levels and separate them to take a picture, and we ain't got time for that
clear mural
I'm sure we can throw ya a top down image of the island, but it's a lot more dif...
Now you say you will gives us it lol
static sinew
For the Island, that would be great. Thanks Fish! When I get my hands on the game I'll try my hand at the Silo
clear mural
I got the firmest no from Scott lol
opal needle
I got the firmest no from Scott lol
oh really?
clear mural
oh really?
For silo at least but this was December so thoughts could change
opal needle
Can't do silo, it'll take time, but I can help ya out on the island.
Consider it a sneak peak of the map to come.
Also worth noting, some elements are hidden (LODs) due to the big distance from which the screenshot was taken.
But it should give you a general idea of the island
clear mural
Where is the island being split by any chance
static sinew
That's a fantastic image to work off of, this will be extremely helpful <3
neon leaf
that's what I was thinking
clear mural
bottom half is available in the current state
Lol I thought the exact thing
clear mural
bottom half is available in the current state
No advant edge bulding Sadge
knotty orchid
Wonder what kinda asset culling there is to get that working on q2
atomic vigil
Added this gif of the island flyover to the wiki.
I also pulled in the map provided by InFish
static sinew
Added this gif of the island flyover to the wiki.
Looks good!
atomic vigil
Ty! If anyone's an admin, please delete this file: https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/File:IslandOfTabor600x338px.gif
I was able to get a higher fidelity flyover gif uploaded.
clear mural
Added this gif of the island flyover to the wiki.
For the gif if I recommend you could reverse the video so it goes backwards since it cutting back and forth looks okay but that might make it better
atomic vigil
For the gif if I recommend you could reverse the video so it goes backwards sinc...
That's a cool idea, I'll see what I can do.
atomic vigil
https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/Locations#Island_of_Tabor
Good to go. Just need to delete the previous 2 gifs I uploaded previously. I don't have permissions to delete stuff.
static sinew
I'm grabbing temp icons to setup the main page for the current categories, which we can always expand upon of change later. These are what I have so far.
I'm using icons from https://seiyria.com/gameicons-font/
can you guys help me get ideas for icons for the other slots I have blank?
static sinew
For rules:
static sinew
Didn't see any of those other things with a quick CTRL-F of the icons
trail perch
Bunker equipment could be the screw
static sinew
I saw the Allied Star, I like that too
somber rock
Maybe bayonet for attachments? But that might give the impression there are bayonets in game
static sinew
Could be confused with the melee knife too
static sinew
toolbox for bunker equipment maybe?
trail perch
"Backup" could be factions
somber rock
Still need something for attachments
trail perch
somber rock
How’s there no “scope” icon
dense dune
this could be factions too
static sinew
I like the black-flag the most out of all we've gone through so far
trail perch
yah thats fair
somber rock
That could also be exfil points
dense dune
ye
static sinew
somber rock
Abstract 103
trail perch
there is a lot
somber rock
I like it
dense dune
found this
static sinew
This for factions?
somber rock
I like it
static sinew
backup could probably be used for some sort of "bosses" or "Characters" menu
somber rock
Unless you want to keep armor and helmets in “equipment”
dense dune
this could be useful for something
somber rock
I’ll hold off on that
dense dune
one of these could be extracts
static sinew
Unless you want to keep armor and helmets in “equipment”
I think they should be kept as a subcategory in Equipment
Well, we could have over-reaching categories and sub-categories like this
An "Equipment" category with armor, backpacks, helmets, etc in it
dense dune
this is perfect for extractions
trail perch
perfect
somber rock
I like crosshair for attachments
static sinew
Let's focus on main-page icons first, and we can do map icons later
dense dune
alrighty
static sinew
We could do crosshair, but imma scroll a bit to see if anything else catches my eye
dense dune
me too
trail perch
of equipment i found this "trench body armor"
static sinew
cool. So what are the current types of equipment in the game? Just helms, body armor, backpacks?
hot berry
once again this chat is too smart for me
somber rock
cool. So what are the current types of equipment in the game? Just helms, body a...
Yep
trail perch
pertty much
trail perch
once again this chat is too smart for me
resourceful as well
somber rock
5 types of armor and 5 helmets though
hot berry
cool. So what are the current types of equipment in the game? Just helms, body a...
yup, with some stuff you can throw on them
dense dune
this could be attachments
somber rock
Nah, stick to crosshair
static sinew
Found another flag. I do prefer these over abstract
somber rock
Is there a flags option
static sinew
Potentially bunker equipment:
somber rock
As in, several flags
static sinew
I'll check
dense dune
this could be a better one for traders
or dis
this ones interesting
this one could be used for equipment(sorry if I'm postin too much)
static sinew
If we make "Equipment" a heading, we might not need an icon for it
Then just one for backpacks, armor, and helmets
dense dune
that's true
static sinew
That would be a good icon for "Equipment" though
static sinew
As in, several flags
Another option
static sinew
this is the only weapon mod type thing I could find
atomic vigil
Awesome work with the icon choices. Might I suggest a simple cogwheel for the Weapon mods?
ingame, you just get a cogwheel when attaching stuff.
static sinew
Hmm, I was thinking of using this for bunker equipment but maybe I could use it for weapon mods
There is a simple cog though
atomic vigil
I like the cog.
neon leaf
one of these could be extracts
first one
atomic vigil
Made something for the bunker as an Idea
somber rock
Can you make an ACOG or similar?
trail perch
Made something for the bunker as an Idea
You fucking god
atomic vigil
Can you make an ACOG or similar?
acog icon? I can try it out
somber rock
Thank you
trail perch
We could but the that would break the layout of that page
static sinew
How?
trail perch
Seeing that that whole page is sorted by caliber
static sinew
You can still keep the caliber on there
I believe the devs said there would be more than 3 types of ammo per gun (More than FMJ, AP, and Tracer)
trail perch
To my understanding i thought there was only goong to be the 3 but i could be wrong
static sinew
I'll keep it as one for now, but I think we'll need to separate it later
trail perch
If the devs decided to add more ammo types i would be happy to document them on there own page
atomic vigil
trail perch
@atomic vigil THE GOAT
trail perch
You have been killing it with all the info graphics you have put together thank you for being a great part of this community
atomic vigil
hushed nebula
youve all been doing a really good job on the wiki
atomic vigil
svg files for the website @static sinew
static sinew
There's a download button at the top :)
I already have them all
hushed nebula
@atomic vigil you looking for work? i know of someone whos in desperate need of a vector graphics artist long term
atomic vigil
<@184818387518488577> you looking for work? i know of someone whos in desperate ...
I'll DM you
hushed nebula
mk
static sinew
Now the icons didn't have backgrounds so wouldn't work just pasting them into the site, they would blend into the background. I'm putting them all in a black bordered white circle. Fine by you guys?
static sinew
CSS is pretty restricted
I can make these icons quickly. It's just pasting the icon onto the base I made
hushed nebula
ah ok, if its possible itd be super easy, looks good good
yea, better to have things automatic incase you wanna remove the backgrounds or you want to change the colors and stuff
static sinew
True, but I don't expect the icons are something that's going to be changed more than once or twice
static sinew
@opal needle It alright if I add something like this to the main page of the wiki? (It'll have a transparent background, I just have it black for visibility rn)
I was wanting to have something akin to this:
I'm working in my sandbox, getting the main page setup
opal needle
<@185145763980902401> It alright if I add something like this to the main page o...
sure, it's already listed as official
static sinew
Thanks, just wanted to be sure!
Can an admin please protect this page so only admins can edit it?
https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/File:Supported_ByCombat_Waffle_Sudios_Logo.png
(3 dots in top-right, change protection)
neon leaf
I feel like im not contributing anything but I have no idea what to work on 😅
static sinew
I'm working on getting the first draft of the home page setup
I'm lifting what I had for the Tarkov wiki and changing it up for Tabor
This is only one section
It won't take up the whole page like you see in that image ^
static sinew
I feel like im not contributing anything but I have no idea what to work on 😅
If you want, you can setup a "Changelog" page
neon leaf
as in write down all the changelogs with their version number
I wonder if all the changelogs so far are stored somewhere lol
static sinew
Create a page, name it "Changelog", write a small blurb about what's shown on the page (A history of all the game updates & patch notes). For content, you can create a few subheadings (wrap them in double =, like "==0.0.0.1 (April 20, 2022)==") with writing under them like "Company founded" as a starter
I would just do one for company founded, Closed Alpha begins, then we start updating more after OA happens. If you can find other patch notes though, feel free.
For reference: https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog
I created a template "Template:Gameversion". All it is is a page where anybody can edit the current game version number. The reason for this is the home page (which will be admin locked) will have this displayed, but this template allows anybody to edit the current version number still.
https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Gameversion
neon leaf
@somber rock
somber rock
yo
neon leaf
would you mind making a copy paste of all the steam patch notes you have
they should be listed underneath like this
somber rock
i'll see what I can do
static sinew
Soooo I'm going to be a bit arrogant here; would you guys be ok with me having admin rights on the wiki? It would make working on the back-end much easier. If not, no worries.
neon leaf
ofc
neon leaf
already did
static sinew
Oh, cool
neon leaf
spoon seems to be playing now lol, guess ill ask someone else for logs first
static sinew
BTW just made another template "{{GAMENAME}}"
This means that wherever on the wiki you write {{GAMENAME}}, it'll be converted to "Ghosts of Tabor" and hyperlink to the home page.
Reason for this is so you don't need to write "[[Ghosts of Tabor Wiki|Ghosts of Tabor]]" all the time, and if the game name for whatever reason ever changes, we can do one simple edit to change it across most of the wiki
neon leaf
static sinew
But if you wanted to update it, do you understand where to go? I want you to try it out and change it to "v0.0.0.1"
neon leaf
yeah
static sinew
In your changelog heading I would also leave a space between the version number and the brackets (I'm going to nit-pick formatting, sorry!)
neon leaf
static sinew
Nice
static sinew
No worries! It's always best to get the formatting right in the beginning or it just becomes a growing issue
So I like to jump on it
neon leaf
we're really gonna need a template for locations / items / traders soon
they could all be the same
static sinew
Flashbacks to needing to re-categorize 6000 images
I know Drake, I'm going to work on that. Main page first though.
neon leaf
lol
static sinew
Get our basic navigation setup
After the main page, I really want to get the back-end categories setup before we get more orphaned pages
neon leaf
thanks for doing that
you're way more experienced than me lol, this is the first time ive ever edited a wiki
static sinew
Just ask if you have any questions!
Oh, and I recommend not making a wiki page like Tarkov's Weapon Mods page. Fandom staff cry when they see it.
But we called it a necessary evil
Literally 2,000+ images and 4,000+ hyperlinks on one page
Plus duplicated data
static sinew
Looks good, I'll just shove the TOC over to the right side
neon leaf
no idea how to do that
static sinew
I will
ugh I gotta setup another template first I think
Done
I created https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/Template:TOC_limit to hide the code so people don't accidentally break it.
static sinew
@hushed nebula You know how flex containers work?
static sinew
Apparently the CSS isn't setup by default for main page flex containers when I assumed it was. I've got very little CSS knowledge and while I could probably hack it together, I just wanted to check if maybe you would be willing to help setup some & their styling. This is contingent on me finding where I can put the CSS so it gets referenced properly. I'm pretty sure we're fine to add CSS as long as it's only adding and doesn't mess with existing CSS
hushed nebula
it wont mess with existing css as long as you select the right things, you want to select the content area, whatever you want to be a flexbox then you want to set 2 parameters
display:flex;
flex-direction:column;
Would you be up for hopping in a VC and me sharing my screen?
hushed nebula
i cant right now sorry, if you could show me what you want and give me permissions on the wiki to edit i could try and make it work
static sinew
No worries! You actually have permission to do it because I'm working on this all in a sandbox (test environment) before it goes live. It's all on hidden pages and doesn't actually effect anything anybody will see on the wiki
hushed nebula
can you send me the link or whatever, also do i have to make an account
static sinew
Let me just save some changes and I'll link you
Uhhhh lemme check if the wiki is open for all to edit or if login is needed (you can login with a Facebook, Google, Twitch, or Apple account if you don't want to create one)
hushed nebula
mk just send me a link whenever you can and a mockup of what you want done
static sinew
@neon leaf Do you have edit access on this page? https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/User:Orbb09/sandbox/Section_2
Just checking if sandbox is user locked
hushed nebula
i dont have access myself
neon leaf
I can edit it
static sinew
I can see logged out doesn't but not sure about other users. Never had somebody edit my sandbox before
Ok, so you do need to be signed in
static sinew
I know
I copied it from here to make my life easier: https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Escape_from_Tarkov_Wiki/Section_2
hushed nebula
lol good
static sinew
Here's section, 1, setup for Tabor: https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/User:Orbb09/sandbox/Section_1
hushed nebula
oh this is easy
yea
not an issue
can i do my own sandbox?
well
fuck ill use yours
compact kettleBOT
hushed nebula
cause idk how to do my own
neon leaf
lmao
hushed nebula
lol
neon leaf
@opal needle
static sinew
I was looking for having it basically identical to Tarkov's for the time being, minus the striped box background and changing the colors. I might want to change more later and I'm sure I could easily tweak myself it once its setup.
neon leaf
bot is broken haha
hushed nebula
fuck
static sinew
You can do your own, sec
hushed nebula
nonono its ok
static sinew
oh, ok
If you can edit mine, go for it
I've 4 sections I want to create, you're looking at section 1. In the end they all get pulled here to my fake main page: https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/User:Orbb09/sandbox
hushed nebula
so wait, what are you wanting? it already is a flexbox lol
hushed nebula
wait
maybe its not
why do you need a flexbox for this, having display block works fine :)
static sinew
Do they adjust to different viewport widths?
hushed nebula
yes
static sinew
Oh.
static sinew
I know very little CSS/HTML
hushed nebula
if you need any help at all ping me 🥴
if you need any like design help too
im good with making websites look nice LOL
we could come up with a graphical style for the wiki
static sinew
That would be nice
I'm good with content management, not so much the graphical design
hushed nebula
ill wait till the game comes out so we can make something consistent with the game ui
fonts and all
it looks like it gives you that freedom so
static sinew
I was going to wait until I got my hands on the game to do most of the wiki editing too, but I figured I would get the basics on the main page setup first
Yeah, lots of freedom
hushed nebula
yea
static sinew
Just don't change the color of that purple/yellow sidebar or Fandom staff will come screaming in and curb-stomp you
hushed nebula
i think the sidebar on the right makes it look a little cluttered, could that be moved to a footer?
static sinew
lol
hushed nebula
lame
but yea the sidebar makes it look kinda cramped when the horizontal margins are already super large
could you move that to the footer or naw
static sinew
Sorry, which page is this?
hushed nebula
oh..... im stupid my bad LOL
static sinew
lol
hushed nebula
i am
static sinew
no worries XD
static sinew
I believeeeeee so, but I don't know where they're located at. I think I saw one 4 years ago on a backpage of the Tarkov wiki
There's lots of hidden templates and back-end pages so people don't try to mess with them if they don't know what they're doing
hushed nebula
do templates derive from other templates
static sinew
We have at least 204 of them
static sinew
do templates derive from other templates
They can
hushed nebula
do all of these derive from one?
it looks like its editable
but only admins can access it
static sinew
Show me the page, I've got admin
static sinew
I've got access
static sinew
I can give you admin to edit it, but don't edit the integral parts of the site that would piss off Fandom, like the FANDOM side navigation bar, any of the footers, things that might mess with advertisements, etc
static sinew
ok
hushed nebula
i do plan on actively editing the wiki tho so itd be nice whenever the game comes out
static sinew
Since you have good background knowledge it would be helpful
neon leaf
I wish I could fill out the changelog page more but there isn't much info
static sinew
flashbacks to when FANDOM staff came stomping up to us Tarkov admins after we broke stuff
hushed nebula
mfw
static sinew
I wish I could fill out the changelog page more but there isn't much info
That's fine, people don't care much about stuff up until public access, except maybe major dates like when development began and changes to the state of the game (Closed alpha, open alpha, closed beta, open beta, etc)
Feel free to play around in my sandbox Must
hushed nebula
will do :)
i need to get practice playin vr so i dont immediately get super motion sick from tabor <3
neon leaf
nice
hushed nebula
can you zip those up and send me em
static sinew
Sure
hushed nebula
thx
atomic vigil
Very nice! Small thing, can we swap this link for the shop out & include the reddit?
static sinew
@hushed nebula
static sinew
Very nice! Small thing, can we swap this link for the shop out & include the red...
I could just add a link too
hushed nebula
would they still be considered preorders after closed beta comes out?
static sinew
I have no idea :D
neon leaf
nope
hushed nebula
lmao
neon leaf
fish consistently states that after the 20th it wont be a pre order
static sinew
Tarkov still calls them pre-orders since the game hasn't hit 1.0 yet, but they're weird.
hushed nebula
theyre russians so
static sinew
I can remove that bit
hushed nebula
yea it should be changed
neon leaf
any pages we're missing?
neon leaf
that we can set up right now*
static sinew
I would need to take a look around, had my head buried in the main page and templates today
@atomic vigil
Actually
I'll move reddit after the store
hushed nebula
you could change them all to icons
atomic vigil
Maybe further right even, near the other socials
hushed nebula
^
static sinew
Have the official site, game/Merch store, then a line of social media icons below
neon leaf
this part is a bit weird
I would like the discord part to be the discord logo, but the other two wouldnt work as icons
static sinew
and move them to the topbar, with a socials dropdown
hushed nebula
yea its a bit inconsistent
yea then its kind of redundant
unless you wanna add icons thatd be cool
but having it as text looks inconsistent
static sinew
Nice for visibility on the main page. They're hidden in the topbar across the whole site. I think the main page should have them on easy display
static sinew
We can switch them to icons, maybe once the game comes out and we have some UI style to work with
static sinew
I know what favicons are, not fontawesome
hushed nebula
yea i misspoke, sleep deprived
static sinew
heh
hushed nebula
look it up
i think the background looks a bit bad too (not saying the image is bad), it just doesnt work as the background very well
maybe something tiled
ill make something
static sinew
Sounds good
hushed nebula
can you have tiled backgrounds
are you allowed to edit that with css
or is it just a straight up image
hushed nebula
and can i edit that as a user?
static sinew
No
static sinew
Make an edit on my sandbox and save it so I can find your userpage lol
hushed nebula
static sinew
Ah, that works too
neon leaf
i think the background looks a bit bad too (not saying the image is bad), it jus...
I thought it looked neat
hushed nebula
wont be
static sinew
Drake, can you provide Admin? Gamepedia-based wiki's work different X.X
Admin provisioning isn't the same
trail perch
at this point im thinking we should get Mr. @hushed nebula on the wiki team with all the work he is doing
trail perch
i mean i have seen you and Orbb going back and forth all day working on the wiki
i feel like i have been a bit of a dead weight cause i kind do data collection
static sinew
Trust me, that's plenty. Once I get infoboxes and templates setup you'll have lots to do
neon leaf
I think you have to edit a page to show up @hushed nebula
hushed nebula
not at all youre very valuable, we'll be working together on weapon stats
mkl
ill just edit my user page
there ya go
neon leaf
I wonder if theres a way to see exact weapon stats
if not we'll have to bug fish
because surely theres a file somewhere that shows the stats, but c++ being precompiled means we cant see it
static sinew
Once I have the game hands-on, I can see what I can pull
Oh
I'm used to Tarkov where BSG throws everything unnecessarily to the user's local machine
neon leaf
thats just unity
static sinew
No, it's BSG.
neon leaf
okay yeah
they do way more than unity makes them
but also them being on such an old version of unity makes ripping assets annoying
static sinew
There was a patch recently where they even had a basic-ass .txt file that appeared in the Roaming folder when you loaded into a raid that had the coodinates of all items spawned in the raid written in plain english
neon leaf
asset streaming makes everything so much easier to rip
static sinew
It was bad lmao
hushed nebula
sorry ok my internet cut out at the perfect time
i hope theres no rules against inspecting the binaries with tools like ghidra or ida
not sure if the damage values are even networked to the client tho
so its gonna be a trick
static sinew
We'll see
hushed nebula
can someone assign me admin on the wiki
static sinew
Drake?
neon leaf
huh?
static sinew
Can you?
hushed nebula
i made an edit
neon leaf
yeah but it wont let me find them
hushed nebula
neon leaf
okay
static sinew
You can find them on the Recent Changes page too
hushed nebula
if you still cant just tell me
neon leaf
I just go here https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/Special:ListUsers
hushed nebula
yea i show up there
neon leaf
did it
trail perch
we all good with submitting to have Must added to the wiki team ✅ or ❌
neon leaf
ye
static sinew
yup
neon leaf
oops
hushed nebula
LOL
neon leaf
@opal needle
static sinew
NICE
trail perch
lol wrong fish
neon leaf
I clicked on infish
hushed nebula
fished for the wrong fish </3
neon leaf
no idea why it changed it
static sinew
Even deleted it so the poor lad gets a ghost ping
hushed nebula
discord is so stupid
i think discord hides ghost pings now
if theyre offline and you ghost ping theyll just not get it
thats my theory
neon leaf
I also like the @silent thing
static sinew
Forgot about that
hushed nebula
i still dont know why its useful but yea
neon leaf
want to tell someone something but not wake them up
static sinew
It's a "light" notification
hushed nebula
if you dm someone with silent theyll still get the message and red dot but they wont hear the sound?
neon leaf
yeah
opal needle
wut?
neon leaf
add @hushed nebula to wiki please
static sinew
Right, it'll just show the red DIscord notification in the app, but won't alert them otherwise
hushed nebula
ah ok good
static sinew
Do Moderators have the ability to edit roles?
static sinew
I know, but the poor fishy has been getting run ragged
opal needle
I thought u guys hated each other just a few days ago?
static sinew
No, that was Muha. He's a uh... very aggressive talker.
hushed nebula
no? we never hated eachother, it was some outsider from the tarkov wiki that was causing a fuss
me and will and orbb chillin
static sinew
Thx Fish!
trail perch
ty fish
static sinew
I like this. Getting a proper team together. Got a nice base of excited content collectors, an experienced web designer, and an experienced wiki admin
neon leaf
having a little separate section makes me way happier than it should
hushed nebula
we making strides
neon leaf
I had no idea I would get this much help this fast
hushed nebula
:)
neon leaf
I made this wiki on a wim
hushed nebula
honestly if i was here before you i wouldve too lol
static sinew
For future reference; how the hell do you add Admins on FANDOM?
static sinew
Oh. They have it set- ok I see. I don't have permission to do so, only you do since you're the Bureaucrat.
neon leaf
:3
hushed nebula
the god even
neon leaf
hushed nebula
done some theme edits
for both light and dark
feel free to give feedback im gonna be doing more page specific edits over the coming days
neon leaf
thats better
static sinew
The softer background is nice, doesn't conflict with transparent content and people can read on top of it easer
neon leaf
feels like we're copying tarkov a little too much but its fine
hushed nebula
its just kind of the style that works
if we have an inset box shadow <3 then itll really start lookin strange
opal needle
@static sinew May 19th we onboarded first round of closed alpha testers, was like 20 people.
November 10th was 2nd round, of around 100 people.
and since then we have probably onboarded another 100 people over some intervals.
static sinew
Awesome Fish!
opal needle
Which looks absolutely ridiculous to me because that means we had testers like 2 months into development... they were playing in a map that doesn't even exist anymore 😂
static sinew
lol
neon leaf
I want to see that
opal needle
It did not run on quest 2, so we scrapped it.
Was a lot of store assets
opal needle
Don't think it had a name, but I actually recall some early content creators being allowed to make very specific videos showing only small parts of it, so it might still be on the internet
hushed nebula
oh nice
static sinew
1/2 of Island is releasing with OA and is not yet playable, correct?
Or is it coming with CB?
neon leaf
thats what fish said
static sinew
Got it
neon leaf
bit of a bad version name lol
opal needle
bit of a bad version name lol
oy, u don't like version numbers?
opal needle
I can tell u right now that open alpha version number will be 0.4.X.Y
static sinew
Basic game timeline so far https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog
I believe that's correct from what I've gathered
neon leaf
way more numbers than im used to
opal needle
0 = early access
.3 = major version 3
.2392 = build 2392
.10223 = changelist 10223
static sinew
Makes sense
hushed nebula
Time to name every new update after a different fish
start with sprats
i know its just herring or something but still
if someone draws a mockup for a page ill implement it
so we can decide on a style we all like
static sinew
Wait a mockup for what kind of page
neon leaf
all of them ig
hushed nebula
just like where things should be
redesign the faction page in figma or ms paint or somethin for example
pref figma LOL
neon leaf
redesign the faction page in figma or ms paint or somethin for example
could do something like this
hushed nebula
thats what i was thinkin yea
static sinew
Ohh, that's nice
neon leaf
obviously it wouldnt be so small
would it be possible to do hover animations on fandom?
static sinew
I've never used any before, not sure
neon leaf
like if you hover over it and click it brings you to the page dedicated to it
static sinew
Making a hyperlinked image/gif is easy enough, I would need to search gow to make a hover animaton though
hushed nebula
like if you hover over it and click it brings you to the page dedicated to it
we can do fancy stuff
we can do anything you can imagine
neon leaf
nice
hushed nebula
i just need specific specifications
neon leaf
would probably have everything enlarge a little
but at slightly different ammounts
hmmm
hushed nebula
ornate stuff like that is where it gets tricky
base css just isnt suitable for that kind of thing, not saying i cant do it but its really not good for it
might have cross browser issues and stuff, could be strange
neon leaf
yeah
hushed nebula
night night all, i think ill work on the main page when i wake up
make it less linear and more a real homepage
storm remnant
base css just isnt suitable for that kind of thing, not saying i cant do it but ...
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/transform should do the work or I misunderstood the specs ?
hushed nebula
Yea id have to do it using transforms, its slightly jank
storm remnant
I can take a shot at it if you want, i'd rather do that than my actual work 😄
hushed nebula
Nawww ill be on it later today
Its not that its hard or complex or anything its just that its mildly annoying
storm remnant
I kind of suck at it, but the only way of getting good at something is doing it, right ?
I'm gonna keep lurking, if you need backup ping me 🙂
hushed nebula
Mk
neon leaf
how goes the wiki today
paper garden
how goes the wiki today
It’s wikian
hushed nebula
todays been super stressful for me
sorry for not talkin much
i cant wait to get to it
dense dune
watcha workin on
neon leaf
watcha workin on
trying to figure out melonloader so I can make prop hunt gamemode for a youtubed
fusion comes out Tuesday
tulip snow
dense dune
yeeess
wanton flower
fusion comes out Tuesday
has it been explain how partying up will work in the first place?
neon leaf
has it been explain how partying up will work in the first place?
you can make servers and send discord / steam invites
neon leaf
just gonna talk in here because general is a mess
teal gust
dont think anyone’s here tho 😭
neon leaf
hushed nebula
gen is annoying
somber rock
No kidding
somber rock
Yep
hushed nebula
its so funny but also annoying cause i love being active but i cant when its just a clusterfuck <3
somber rock
I’m not a laughing person on discord, so people being morons doesn’t come across as funny, just kinda stupid and troll-ish
Which is almost rage-inducing
hushed nebula
its very much rage inducing
somber rock
Glad I’m not the only one
hushed nebula
people just gotta shut up
somber rock
Seriously
hushed nebula
its only really funny cause theyre just inciting themselves to get banned
like why
just why
fuck off noone wants you here <3 you get it
somber rock
Eh, good riddance
hushed nebula
hope fish can deal with it
somber rock
I’m sure he will
These are the people I don’t want to mentor
Gives me onward vibes
somber rock
Zure
hushed nebula
:)
thx spoon
but yea if they take the game as what it is then sure but if theyre being a fucking annoyance thats awful, atleast theyre contained to general
somber rock
Wait, they can’t access this channel?
somber rock
Ah. Wonderful
dense dune
lol ye
hushed nebula
heya xyverns the kewl kids are chillin here
dense dune
I'm not bad I swear
hushed nebula
i hope that we can get some private text chats for cool people, thats kinda what the rat chat is but its only for people that pay
dense dune
maybe foundin father chat(cuz I have it)
hushed nebula
yea thatd be good
static sinew
somber rock
I'm not bad I swear
Ehhhh
hushed nebula
nawww ur not bad
dense dune
I'll be better
hushed nebula
i know who you are so youre chill in my book
teal gust
MUST
I Hope were good
not tryna be an ass but ion wana have nobody dislike me 🙏
have a good day man
hushed nebula
<@&951226039890231347> can you guys deal with the stuff in general already please, AosVultures, MtnMCG, TheCrazyInsanity, skiievil and marmar are being toxic as all hell, telling people joining the server that the game is out and spamming random garbage, atleast increase slowmode or something
burnt kelp
O.O
teal gust
said it once man I don’t think I did that much wrong now I’m just watching the chat 😭
not tryna be toxic must that’s why I’m the only one apologizing
stiff basin
<@&951226039890231347> can you guys deal with the stuff in general already pleas...
not to worry, we are watching it
hushed nebula
good cause that shits annoying as hell
static sinew
At least the garbage image spam stopped
teal gust
good cause that shits annoying as hell
fr i thought it was gon be simple at the start now they going all out
hushed nebula
cuh you were contributing just like everyone else lmao
teal gust
<@&951226039890231347> can you guys deal with the stuff in general already pleas...
im not sure why im in this list, I didn’t spam any random garbage maybe I said the oa thing once but I don’t think I deserve the block must 
hushed nebula
you were reacting to some dudes message with toxic stuff 😋
dont really care lol ill unblock you and start reading your messages again in a few days if youre still even talking and not just here for the toxicity
teal gust
you were reacting to some dudes message with toxic stuff 😋
ur right im sorry LMFAO
I was just adding on to the reactions n stuff 😭
I understand now my bad but uh hope u forgive me cause u got a cool pfp
neon leaf
@trail perch you ready to explore Tabor?
trail perch
as ready as i can be
neon leaf
I found software that let's me explore unreal engine maps but not extract them in a usable way
so I guess I can use it to take screenshots for map making
trail perch
what should be fine
neon leaf
how are we gonna do silo lol
trail perch
good question
somber rock
Mentor for newbs
trail perch
man i want to apply for boa but cant cause i have no ingame experience
neon leaf
you're a wiki writer
it's your job to have experience
get to it
I'm totally gonna look through game files to see scrapped / planned features they left behind lol
somber rock
Cannot believe these will be the people I’m overseeing
neon leaf
lmao
trail perch
somber rock
Fkn standalone bullshit
neon leaf
I know technically the actual number of people using vr is around 170 million but only 15 million of that is headsets meant for gaming
atomic vigil
Not sure how closely BOA is to SHERPA from Tarkov, but you can probably use this page as an outline from the Czech Escape From Tarkov Page to make one for the Ghosts of Tabor Wiki:
https://escapefromtarkov-fandom-com.translate.goog/cs/wiki/Sherpa?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
(There is no english SHERPA page on the Tarkov Wiki for some reason)
lapis bronze
didn't Sherpa for tarkov fail miserably?
lapis bronze
nah not related to BOA, just remembering sherpa
atomic vigil
At the moment, they've scaled back Content Creators as Sherpas (since they would utilize the sherpa status to sit in lobby queues & advertize their twitch stream).
lapis bronze
also I thought this was a public channel, surprised you guys are spared from what general is experiencing
neon leaf
sherpa was pretty nice in tarkov, I was consistently able to get someone to help me do better despite my 1000 hours lol
nobody wants to talk in the wiki chat
it is peaceful
neon leaf
idk why we were placed at the top but it does make it feel pretty special
hushed nebula
very peaceful
broken jackal
very peaceful
teal gust
very peaceful
trail perch
there has been no announcement so i would not bet on it atm
trail perch
oh, i must have missed that with all the chaos in the server
neon leaf
yeah lol
I'm totally getting early release next year
I only have 2 credits left before I have everything I need so I can basically take early release first and last period and be fine lol
trail perch
god sometime i forget how young some of you are
trail perch
it can be
neon leaf
the multiplayer mod for bonelab will release right as I start school on Tuesday because the creator has spring break that week
I honestly might stay home for it and just do my assignments at home
I've never understood people's obsession with going to school no matter what, even if you're getting the work done just fine
static sinew
didn't Sherpa for tarkov fail miserably?
Nope! It's been used pretty effectively for years
lapis bronze
Ah I thought it was one of the things people were calling out about not working against cheaters
neon leaf
huh?
static sinew
What does the sherpa program and cheating have to do with one another?
those are two unrelated things
neon leaf
sherpa are people who help new players
EAC is the tarkov anticheat
which kinda sucks
static sinew
Oh. Tarkov content creators like to stir up drama when there's not lots to talk about. I don't follow any of it
static sinew
I swear some of them have a list of long-standing issues that they roll the die on which to drama about
- Cheaters
- Peekers advantage/Network issues
- BSG only listens to streamers and not the community
- Quest design
- Flea Market
neon leaf
I notice audio is not on that list
static sinew
Oh! I frogot that one
neon leaf
that's the issue I complain about
static sinew
That's another big one. The drama will get back to it eventually. It's cyclical.
neon leaf
I don't run in to cheaters, at least not obvious ones
the drama is audio rn
they fucked it
even more so
static sinew
Oh, and AI being designed badly is another one
neon leaf
I don't know if their quick patch fixed the audio
neon leaf
Oh, and AI being designed badly is another one
never heard that one
neon leaf
I think the ai is great
static sinew
Scavs are alright. Some of the bosses are fine. Rogues and some of the other bosses are cracked.
Peek your eyes over a window sill 500m away through fog and get 1-tapped in 0.5 seconds in the eyes
neon leaf
never experienced that
scavs who kill me are always pretty close
and if not they give plenty of verbal warning first
neon leaf
lmao
static sinew
late vigil
All it takes is one usec in your raid to ruin that for you lol
I have over 3k hours in the game
static sinew
The point is, the moment they aggro you they ridiculous aim at any distance and don't have any recoil, so can laser you 100's of meters out in less than a second
late vigil
It’s not worth playing anymore
hushed nebula
i didnt /:
trail perch
i did
somber rock
I probably did as well
neon leaf
I didn't
hushed nebula
we need a wiki gang gc
static sinew
Lol.
dense dune
I haven't gotten it yet but my friend who I told about it got it first wave
static sinew
Looks like ~2k invites being sent every 10 minutes'
static sinew
My only issue is i have an interview in 40ish mins
Just do interview while in Tabor, EZ
I just got it
I didn't get an email but it appeared in my Steam library
Downloading now
trail perch
yah it was just in my library
dense dune
ok
clear mural
My only issue is i have an interview in 40ish mins
Lol same
dense dune
my friend got an email
trail perch
im having minor issues with lag
clear mural
But it’s when I get home
dense dune
🤷♂️
clear mural
im having minor issues with lag
That’s known
static sinew
On servers that had a max support of 250 players, I think they might have a bit of lag with a 5k-10k player surge all at once
trail perch
Ok i have made it to the bunker and unlocked all my doors but will have to stop there for now as my interview is in a few mins
dense dune
sad 😔
trail perch
Its jsut for a little bit
trail perch
So we blew the severs back out i hear
neon leaf
yup
atomic vigil
I think for my first few raids, I'm just gonna confirm the boundaries of the maps naked on island.
trail perch
thats fair
lapis bronze
@static sinew sorry bud, gotta save the fenix somehow
static sinew
60s into my first rain and Popcorn drops me :|
lapis bronze
If it makes you feel any better I then proceeded to pick up a mp5 then get bodied because I forgot to cock it
trail perch
holy shit there are so many bots on island
trail perch
they roam in packs of 2-4
trail perch
yah
hushed nebula
how you enjoying the game will
trail perch
i just did my first test raid need to do more
hushed nebula
just have fun, we'll do stats and nerd stuff later
trail perch
im getting like micro stutters where it will move me just an inch or 2
hushed nebula
are you using an oculus device
trail perch
yes
hushed nebula
dont launch it in steamvr mode
trail perch
it stopped asking what version i want to boot