#🌐・wiki-commands
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yahhhh boys
honestly this is really comeing along
drakefruit is da goat
legit told this man about this game a few days ago, he's been simping for it since
:3
once crafting comes out we are going to have to make a tab for that
https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/Attachments lmk if I missed anything
That looks good 👍
https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/Firearms_and_Ammunition re organized the page to add a table of contents
Firearms and Ammunitions list is not finalized, changes and update will be made as the games lifetime progresses. Some Firearms may be missing as I "W.I.L.L" have compiled this list from steamed VOD's and media posted by the Team over at Combat Waffle Studios, many more updates are to come and any missing information will be filled in with the c...
Where’s the small red dot
looking good
Do we have top-down of the floors in silo?
doubt it
I’m sure someone from CWS has them
im definitely gonna rip the model and make a map out of it
And then if (when) we get them we should mark exfil points, major loot areas and stashes
yep
would it be possible to have the wiki browse-able in game, maybe at the shops or your hideout?
could be handy.
is it possible to add a browser in-game? yes.
would CWS want to be liable for community generated content in-game? probably not
ah, thought it was an official page. Fair enough
Who else has access to this channel?
everyone it's public
Great
Epic, the Nerd Lore aspect to this is always wicked neat.
what are the 5 types of body armor?
and I added a sale price category for the junk page
so we need to get on that
I do not
i think its like Kuvosh or something like that
i would have to go back in someones vod to try and find the name, i know one of the streamers got killed by hem
i think it was either whitty or stacks
Is there a discord mod or admin that might help with fandoms discord plug-in? (Assume yall want that accessible) https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/DiscordIntegrator
DiscordIntegrator allows integrating a Discord widget into your sidebar or content. The Discord widget is able to show all online users in a server, the users game activity, anyone in a voice channel and etc. If, after reading the documentation, you still don't understand how to set DiscordIntegrator up, read the step-by-step manual or watch the...
Widget has been enabled on the Discord Server.
Server ID is: 949081704625209404
We're not going to do the setup on the wiki, but it should be enabled for the community to setup now :)
Thank you @opal needle
who is all working on the wiki
@trail perch is as well
we should add sections about what you can do in your home bunker
working on it right now
can someone tell me what keycard colors correspond with their respective rooms?
and what's the thing that makes bullets called? I might just call it a bullet crafter
some of that would be under tools
I made a new page for the rooms, check it out
In your home bunker there are several rooms The server room is where you can turn in any items you have accumulated for a quest, sell items for koruna, and receive items you have bought from a trader. there are also storage shelves for miscellaneous junk, food, or other items. It is unlocked with the ____ keycard This is the room where you can s...
role assigned for wiki workers
I created the wiki 💀
click the thing that says you work on it
oh I thought it was manual my bad
it could be, idk
Assigned
ty
Ill fix it
thanks scott💙
@neon leaf For us to complete adding the Discord feature, believe you or another 'admin' of the wiki need to add ImportJS page
https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Including_additional_CSS_and_JS
@opal needle
InFish did his part, this on wiki creator to add these cute things
what do software folks do when they are bored 🤦♂️
wiki order fixed
fixed itself
i woke up for a litte bit then went back to sleep and now i have a new role, Thank you Scott for the new role and badge.
drake did not tell me we were getting roles gonna beat him, i did the consumables and machinery page if evidence is needed haha
i will have to redo the bunker equipment since i forgot to save it bruh
God fandom wiki took me a day to learn, dosent really help thay i do this while im at work as well but ehhh
same, this is very intuitive
will, check out my page on rooms
I'm missing the server room keycard color
Having a hard time getting to it on modile give me a moment to get to my pc
alright, just keep me posted
The mag loader allows you to load mags with more ease, you simply insert your mag inside the machine and wait for it to fill your mag, to insert the bullets you will have to drop the bullets in the top of the machine in any way you would like and even leave the top filled if you want to, but do be careful as if there is remaining bullets and you...
can you tie those to the bunker room page?
just click the link button and search for the page to add
ppsh drum has 71 rounds
but there's also a straight mag right
35 rounds
MP40 is a 40 caliber im pretty sure
im almost positive it shoots a 40 caliber in real life
9x19 is also a cunt hair difference from 9mm
ill check project in a bit
and confirm
sounds good
building shaders
@somber rock bunker rooms and equipment look great
honetly everything we have so far looks awesome what we are really needing is pictures for items an equipment
not that i have seen in game but im sure there will be a 40 or 60 round mag at some point
ok, so I'll fill that out when it is added
yeh this is less of a project that is just get it up and let people use it, this is a project that will have to be maintained
yeah
i mean as we get more players in the game we may get more people adding content to the wiki making it a bit easier
for sure
then another issue comes up of moderation
yeah, which is why I wanted this to be a semi-private channel
im sure Drake can setup content moderators for the wiki page
@neon leaf?
yes
yeah
I can probably maintain some presence on the wiki
@somber rock@trail perch you now have admin
nice
lol
probably, also a wait to get in contact if needed
yah, something to open tickets with or something
Something I wanted to do next, get some official published stuff imported, assume there is a fandom js library for that, scrape their official page for content
If you want, I'm haft0004, I'm trying to play with the neat/cute things at the moment. Fun to play with something new.
I don't have the power to do that, @neon leaf does
he's the only one with bureaucrat powers rn
did it
awesome, thanks man
I have notifications for all messages for this channel btw, I would suggest you guys do similar
also, lmk if I get too control freak-y
man at the start of yesterday we had 2 pages now we have 13
way to go all
i guess we should add the grenade for firearms and ammunition
*Add some qol changes to main page and some data dump from official page
I'd put that in a separate page, since I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they'll add more explosives later
fair
@trail perch do you have access to all the vests?
no but i now what most of them look like
Alright, I can sell them tomorrow and see what they’re called
i would say there are 3-4 in game atm
Bullets aren’t generally wider than their case
Weird
There’s something in .40 S&W in game?
i mean most mp40's now aday just use 9x19
The MP40 has generally been chambered in 9x19
Or at least it should be
I’ll reload it when I can
I’ve got MP40’s as well, I’ll reload it tomorrow
See what it takes
It should be in 9x19 though
im fairly certin ingame atleast its 9x19mm
I just realized this be we forgot a gun but im not 100% sure if its an ASVAL or a VSS either way its chambered in 9x39mm
Is this where i put war thunder leaked documents?
If it has the wooden stock in the back, I am pretty sure it is the vss. An asval would just have a black stock.
Wooden stock VSS, Skeleton metal stock-AS VAL. Both 9x39
^
What he said
Put them both in rifles
Not SMGs
yes, please do
thank you
if i see the vss/asval get called an smg again i am going to lose my mind
It’s a pretty dope PDW
But we don’t have a PDW category
Actually
Hold on
Remind me, is the P90 in game?
i will find you
i dont think its a pdw either
not sure
it's something between a rifle and a dmr
i wouldn't say dmr, it's chambered for 9x39
Isn't the AS VAL just the assault version of the VSS
They’re very similar, I can say that
It’s meant to be subsonic
that why im saying in-between
More like a police marksman rifle
it was ment to be used a long range suppressed rifle
Than an assault rifle
to simplify, i would say rifle
yah im cool with that
That’s generally how it’s simplified
Does VSS actually have full auto or is it semi only?
an ar9 firing subs is still a rifle
Is that in 9mm?
i believe vss is semi and as val has semi and auto
yeah
That sounds right
Then I won’t call it a rifle
Thought so, the only reason I'd put it in DMR is because it's semi only
im pretty sure then the version we have in game is the VSS
VSS is 9x39 which is quite a bit longer than 9x19
H9 said we have both
oh perfect then there is no more guesseing " i must have missed that message"
I'd consider 9x39 worthy of being in rifle category
It is a rifle caliber
Oh I thought you were saying you wouldn't put it in rifle because it was 9mm
Or rather, an intermediate between a rifle and a pistol
No, that was for the AR9
If it’s in 9x19 I won’t call it a rifle
the ar9 is very clearly a 9x19m ar platform
it is and isn't it would be classified as a carbine
note to self: don't talk about classifications of guns, ever
actually, just forget guns exist
you are dealing with the wiki nerds we want to make sure the info in the wiki is correct
lol i know
we forgot the PP19-bizzon
for simplicities sake, just call it a rifle lmao
or go by the in game classifications labeled in the shop, which also calls it an assault rifle
It’s in 9x19 right?
9x18 same as the mak
or go by the in game classifications labeled in the shop
honestly just follow this. won't confuse anyone that reads the wiki if they go to the shop trying to find the dmr carbine assault cannon otherwise known as the vss
Is the AR9 in game?
no not yet
not that i know of
blocked
but its not an smg
kidding lmao
its a carbine
Not a rifle and I’m not gonna make another category exclusively for it
by extension making it a rifle
it has 1 fire mode semi
This is bs
im having a good laugh
Do we have a model name for the sako?
no, atleast not that i know off
Ugh
isn't it the hunter87 or something like that
Idk
hunter something i could've sworn
doesnt look to far off
No, but every sako rifle looks the same
yall realize you can just ask?
I’ll put it in
yeah hunter 85 pretty sure
we could but where is the fun in that
K, take a look
Hey [insert dev here], can we get info on the vests/chest rigs and helmets so we can make a wiki for them?
I wasn’t sure which dev I should ping
I really don't have time for that
All good
all good
Will, wanna VC?
sure
You wonderful person
Thank you H9
Oh no way
you beautiful bastard
Some parts on vests are changed and do not 100% same as IRL
We will try and help when and where we can but dont expect quick responses like this. We are in the crunch times of game development and we have to focus
100 thank you all for everything
thank you all
You guys are rocking this
great job on this
You should just ask me to fire up the game, I’ve got access
me and spoon were just talking about getting some info in-game once open alpha starts
I will be taking a lot of screenshots
i think we all will be
Just stumbled across this piece of content from Yorick that has some to be released guns https://youtube.com/shorts/Cf7FDXJKRhk?feature=share
Just a short clip from an upcoming video, subscribe to see it when it releases later this week!
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How goes it @trail perch?
good just kinda chilling
Worked on the chest rigs?
not yet
Alright, I’m probably gonna hop on
probably should im jsut watching youtube
Do some offline so I don’t get smoked
that fair
Not now though
yah i found that clip from Yorick that has some guns that are yet to be released like the honey badger a 300blkout rifle and BAR is another gun i thing i saw
alr
M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle chambered in .30-06 springfield
that's just a BAR
solid
found another rifle we forgot, the L-95
nope, marked as the AWM
sir this is not an awm
sorry miss type
got it added
guns i see here in this clip that we do not have yet, Ump 45 or 9x19mm, honey badger, grease gun, m15, wooden foregrip Galil
AK5c
its not release yet
then don't add it yet
this is from the video CWS let Yorick release 4 months ago
I'd still say hold off
fair
yc though
dude i have a sharp eye when it come to this stuff
i am compiling a list though of all the guns i see
it looks more like an ACR than something in the 550's
yeah, UMP 45, AAC honey badger, vectors in 45 and 9mm probably
we will see in time
trigger guard looks off but it's a ak5c
here is a bit better of a picture from early alpha
if y'all would actually be helpful it would be great
if you're gonna shitpost cause I admitted I was wrong, you're really not helping at all
i mean we really dont have to much info to gather atm as we cant test thing, i will agree the shitposting should be at a minimum so actual info can be given
this isnt all of them, but its the few images i prepared in the past.
thats all i got for now. will post more in the future
guess we've got our work cut out for us then
Scott you beautiful bastard
the uzi is not an ump though
just messed up text
i made these in a day months ago
deal with it
or i can delete them all?
there is more stuff here then when i was able to find sifting alpha footage
no, I like having reference photos
there is stuff there not even shown publicly
I still think this should be a private channel
i don't disagree
I can't enforce that though
but this is the channel they setup for us
its up to the devs to change it
i mean it could be there way of leaking info to people as well
that would be outside of their better interest
people like me and you
people outside are going to be excited to see an gun or two be leaked
the want the big content
Updated as many firearms with pictures of guns in game as possible https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/Firearms_and_Ammunition
Firearms and Ammunitions list is not finalized, changes and update will be made as the games lifetime progresses. Some Firearms may be missing as I "W.I.L.L" have compiled this list from steamed VOD's and media posted by the Team over at Combat Waffle Studios, many more updates are to come and any missing information will be filled in with the c...
Great. I’m going to sleep
rest well
Gruber? Every other gun got a real name, no love for the Ruger Mk I?
I hear you, super fun little pistol, have one myself
.22 are fun no matter what
sadly the Mark 1 only has 9 round mag, but whos counting
have two of them, just make sure it has a squirrel engraved in the stock, for nostalgia
lol those go for some decent money up here
for a few decades that was the standard stock, nothing custom, just marketed to kids is all
we didnt have then up here in BC Canada so the only way to get it was at a mark up or having it passed down from family in the US
hand me down is where I got most my random arsenal, only bought two, M1 garand, M1 carbine
Awesome. I’ll get on it
I can no longer steal all the assets and make a 2D platformer 😔
Hmm. I was unable to get anything out of it. Ah well
Again, private channel so people don’t steal stuff?
can i play got with oculus rift s?
Yes
is the open alpha free for everyone, do I have to apply, or is a pre order necessary?
Apply on Steam and you'll receive access when it starts
alright yeah I already preordered was just wondering if it was free for everyone in the alpha. I assume you'll have to buy it as soon as it enters early access?
Yea once open alpha ends you'll need to buy it
i have like one question about movement mechanics or crouch/prone mechanics. What happens when a user who doesnt have a body tracking suit tries to crouch or go prone? Like for crouch, does the game detect that and holds a little crouch pose instead of weirdly bugging. Same goes with going prone, does the game detect it and puts the player in a prone pose/animation?
If not then I think that would be a cool feature
Dude, go to #1004805347296424006 this isnt the place for this-
you'll probably get more help there too
and that is where? don't see the channel...
alright yeah had to "accept" the rules first sorry
Oh, there ya go
Now this is a public channel?
Not anymore, must have been a mistake.
Requires member role to see the channel.
Not really a fandom wiki if you lock the fandom out of discussing it
Only for the sake of the potential info getting passed here
Like the massive folder Scott sent
Which he also promptly deleted
@somber rock @trail perch @neon leaf
Believe the Wiki is still hidden from the search index, think it wants to use complete more of these tasks. Some will come with progress, other might need admin specific changes on our part. (See Admin Dashboard in top right 3dots menu)
*not sure how the Facebook task works, dont want to share my FB, so maybe someone needs to cheese this task
@quick rover One of the tasks needs another user, I don't see your on the edits, so I assume you've been editing without logging in (shows an IP). Create a login for fandom next edit 🙂
ah apologies i'll do that
done (:
Edit user profile, find it in lower left as a user icon -> view profile
From here click Create (where the edit button normally is)
**I left everyones blank, be creative if you want
Any CWS folks want to create a user too, so you can maintain some order if trolls come along someday down the road while no one is looking.
awesome done
any new updates boys?
I might reword the game mechanics section of the front page
that fair
Be a good time to clean stuff up, like putting templates for things together, more images, fine tune mobile experience
ye
soon as I get the game I'll get into the real small details about the game
health, ballistics values, etc etc
someone want to add a navigation item that links to all the official pages, got/cws/twitter/discord/facebook
one of the first things I'm gonna do when I'm finished playing a session is rip the .pak file so I can get nice pictures
added images from the Twitter post to the island of Tabor section
did one of you ask for the images of the equipment to be posting again cause i have them and can send them to you if you wish
I did
i got you
added the UMP 45, FN57, G36k to the Firearms list
fantastic
Added sks 50 Round Drum (loot) to the firearm page
next up stripper clips! (but not really)
no luckily enough the comes with the 20 round mag
Indeed, unless the mosin or other bolt actions that take stripper clips are added, would be alot of work for a throw away gun.
atm i could see it being used for the Sako but not much else untill more gets added
Not familiar with the Sako, but looks like a modern hunting rifle that assumes a scope, not a classic military rifle that rarely held optics, just wanted more lead.
Can we get a quests/vendor page? I’ll be streaming later so someone can record them
i think that may be a little difficult to document, as im pretty sure the quest are semi randomized
vendors for sure should be setup under the market page
They aren’t
They’re set quests within a merchant
there is a traders page already
I made it a while ago
Awesome. I’ll try to get you guys the quests
At this point traders sell different stuff, they don’t sell everything
updated the firearms wiki with the silo bosses auto SKS and tagged 50round sks drum as boss loot
Added 50 round drum (loot) for M1A SASS
Any idea if the m4 will have a drum mag
no idea but im sure it will come in the future
it would be weird to have the akm family have a 6 rounder but not the m4
Wont let me cheeze this task, need more editors grr
Someone new recently added a location, pulled out an old tweet, sweet looking map
Do we have island yet btw?
And when I get back I want to load the quests into a page
yes, but think its missing the latest teasers images
might want to load them into their own pages, so they can be tagged to both a location and trader (speaking to the choir, as you're our source expert atm)
I think a trader page (type of good, leveling system etc) and a quest page (traders, how much rep and koruna they nab you) should suffice
Unfortunately, again, 3000 miles away from my VR
Everything will change of course come open-alpha, not sure what they will be pushing for testing
Fun part of developing, bloat your software with traffic for that excessive capacity and see what happens, just short of a real ddos attack.
My guess is most things in-game won’t need a massive overhaul
🐟
I don't expect large changes in pricing on items themselves, but could be large changes in trader leveling requirements and possibly what items are offered at what levels / offered at all (found in raid only).
yeah it's waaaaaay too easy right now
which is good for testing
You guys will have so much fun figuring out that purchase prices of items change when you level up, and getting the sell prices of items to every single trader varies 
I’m sure
assume the biggest changes is yall playing with the $$ dial on your ec2/d3/dynamo and scaling within figuring out your own costs
Not to mention additions to the game
My company e-suite, move to the cloud they said, it will be cheaper they said.... 🤣 💸
if you have a variable workload then it is.
We use AWS Gamelift with managed EC2, so they scale up and down automatically for us.
If 100 people are playing, then we pay for the servers needed for that.
If 8 are playing, then we pay way less.
certainly some of the newer stuff we write take that ideal aws workflow. But our old stuff was written monolithic style for days past. Biggest problem Oracle, so anything is better than their price hike, Azure or AWS prices got nothing on that monoploy/hostile take over of our data.
Nothing beats Oracle pricing 🤣
sucks when you figure a super sweet query to solve your needs in .1ms, to see that you need to the enterprise edition to run it, fml 10 queries and massive local cache and processing here i come!
Just take that monolith, put it in a docker container, push to cloud, fixed 😂
(we are... our migration isnt going as fast as needed, that was the quoted backup plan)
Guilty, hope I did it right. Can't wait to add more details to the wiki in the future when I get my hands on the game.
how many recoil grips are planed
ive seen 3 or 4
a horizontal grip ?
2 horizontal one vert one angled
np
is the fal planed
from the info i have collected i have seen a Fal but i have no idea when it will be in game
are there muzzles in the game
atm only suppressers
do suppressers do anything besides make the gun quiet and flash
not sure, we don't have stats for anything atm
so is there gameplay of the fal or no
not that i have seen
ok
based on the current conversation im having with Doom the H&K G3 i have on the wiki may actually be a Cetme which is based on the Fal so there may kinda be a Fal in game
its so hard to say as they are so similar
From what I know, the FAL is not in game
The G3 is based on the FAL as well
extended mags for ARs are confirmed right
and the FN FAL is confirmed I've seen a photo🥹
P90 has been added to the wiki
added the Zenit RK-1 foregrip to the attachments page
Dangit @neon leaf you got me in detective mode to see what i can spot on @full crest ack bench of attachments
:3
added the Fortis Shift to the foregrip attachment page
added the EO-Tech 2x-4x with magnifier to weapons attachment page
Hahaha yeah when I'm home today I'll try to get you a screenshot!
❤️
I’m gonna jump on soon
sounds good
where do I find this wiki
thabks I tried finding it
it is also pinned
ohh
Look?
oh it is
I think so, yes.
I feel like they should be alphabetical
Listen here bub i have been adding guns as i find they are found in game i have a lis of 27 more that are currently not available in game and i do this all well i am at work taking phone calls
I don't see why you couldn't do that as well drake
Actually i dont think we should do it alphabetically, i think the firearms should be sorted by ammunition types as that would keep guns in the same family of ammunition together
So just to clarify are we wanting to re-write the page starting with ammo type>gun name alphabetical>mag and capacity> gun image?
it would be sorted like smg heading > 9mm subheader > table > alphabetical sorting
id be interested in writing real wiki software for this game lol, not just fandom
fandom kinda donkey doodoo
Fandom wiki is pretty shit but it is what it is
if you know html you can customize it however you want
Unfortunately i am not versed in html so thats off the table for me atm
But it is getting late here for me im going to sleep and will update the firearms and ammunition page tomorrow
As long as its not a rush thing
i can do a little customization if needed, just ping me
or dm me
im a programmer by trade
Right now the wiki is in a really rough shape just cause most of us don't have access to the game and cant get proper in game images or proper counts
And lets not even start on damage numbers and ballistic protection of armor
This is a labor of love
mhm
Is there no information on traders at the moment? The drop downs don't reveal anything
WE NEED TO KNOW IF JIRI IS GAY
Truly invaluable information
In the future, there will be a set of tasks to deliver letters between him and his lover. It will also be revealed that his lover died months ago, manually setting off the nuke that triggered the whole event. So who was writing these letters?
Oh, reminds me of that mission in outriders, where you deliver an old man's letter to his daughter on the other side of a dangerous zone and find out that people were faking the daughters letters to the old man
Pretty sure that's inflation
I’ll get on tonight and stream for images
I thought you were given images for the items by Scott?
Only for some guns not all
Ah
starting on updating the firearms page
no just sorting the wiki atm
i think we should just wait till Alpha so we can get more crisp images
you know what, no images for now not until we can get them in game
Fair enough
i really don't want to make extar work
ok firearms have been sorted by caliber and then alphabetical for name, images removed for the time being until we can get ingame images
I need to find this wki
pinned message
if ever needed its in my bio as well
I found that out thanks tho
🙏
gah damn
I should figure out how to stream GoT to twitch
figure out?
its not to hard at al
ok
Shouldn't be any different to streaming on discord
just use obs
Except you need obs
ye
thats how i do it
I have very mixed experiences with OBS
I recommend getting the plugin that captures one application at a time instead of everything
Same tbh, sometimes it wants to work sometimes it doesn't
I found it worked fine for streaming it's just recording it wanted to fuck me over with
its not even a plugin anymore
its built in
yesir
new update apparently
spoon if you want to sit down at a point in time i would be happy to assist you in getting setup
thx
np
Yorick's YouTube streaming is probably the same as what you'd do for twitch so you could always just ask him
Yeah, I just specify specific applications. I use Streamlabs rather than OBS though
I didn't realise they were different things lol
Indeed streamlabs was partnered with obs for a time period and then they split. And if I remember right streamlabs are or was in a lawsuit.
They were never partnered, Streamlabs basically just took the source code because it was open source, slapped OBS on the end after their name and called it a day. It’s a lot more full featured, though, as a package and that’s why I use it
Fair fair fair
Indeed
i know at one point the Wiki was "private" anyone that wanted to see the wiki had to see it via the link, is it now public?
Pretty sure yeah
cool
Can people edit though
i think so but its setup that they have to sign into an account to do so
I dislike that. It should change so that only ordained people can edit
i think drake would need to change that
Just write as follows: specter sells guns, minty sells armor, marek sells junk, merchant of death should sell guns as well
Hospital of tabor sells medical supplies
need a list of what specifically
Link specter to guns
eventually we'll have to make a page for every single item
with links to each page from the pages that list them
I'm fine with doing it
It's sign only, but as administrator we have to approve stuff when new folks add, or at least will see red marks in change log waiting for review
Certainly lock main pages after it's more finalized
I've gotten interested in the game and might help out with the wiki, if needed. I currently admin on the Tarkov wiki and I'm pretty big into VR, so this is right up my alley. LMK if any help is needed.
it honestly comes down to if the dev notice you being an active member of the community and assisting with info on the wiki, right now the wiki is open to edit as long as you have signed into an account, we recommend that if you do make any updates to the wiki post here what you have changed
I'll be sure to add notes to my edits so my changes can be easily seen on the revisions page, but since the wiki is small atm I can see how posting here as well would be helpful. I'll be sure to do so!
atm there isn't all to much to add as most of us here on the wiki team dont have access to the atm "1 person on the team has access" but with open alpha and release just around the corner there is sure to be a boom of content to be added
Oh, yeah that's not a problem.
At first I thought you meant only one person had access to the revisions page and I was like

I was actually just looking at that
Brings the images in line with the factions and reduces overall page size
I could throw them on the left too
Personally i think the left would look visually better
I had to play with the sizing a bit because the images are all natively different sizes and aspect rations. I kept them at their native ratios. Want me to apply the left-side images edit?
What time zone do you happen to be in @static sinew
EST (Ontario, Canada)
Ahhhh another fellow Canadian "B.C."
Yep looks nice
Cool. Applying now.
Atm most of the stuff to be added is images they still need to be taken and i plan on doing a ammunition vs armor chart as well
Ammo is simplified compared to trakov as of the moment
Since this wiki is just starting out, it would be good to get some good practices in the door from the beginning. Having all the images sensibly named helps a ton in the long run. For example, the three current Patch image names are
Image 2023-02-10 162419763.png (Ghosts)
Volk Faction Patch.png (Volk)
Fenix Faction Patch.png (Fenix)
It can make editing annoying when you have a dozen images that are number strings and you don't know what's what in the source. If they're named intuitively, like the Volk and Fenix patch, you wouldn't even need to reference the image page to find what it's called when adding it to another page either
Did i really forget to rename the ghost patch 😳
I did
Yah im pretty sure for all of us that are currently on the wiki team this is our first time so some of the stuff may be slapped together kinda haphazardly
More then half the time im doing all of my edits in-between calls from work
It can always be reuploaded with a new name, it would just need to be updated on all the pages it currently exists on as well. Not a problem
I might do it in a min
If you do thank you very much
Slightly reworded the beginning of the faction descriptions to include whether they're player and/or NPC controlled.
sounds good
When a wiki admin has a minute, please delete
https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/File:Image_2023-02-10_162419763.png
as it's been replaced with
https://ghosts-of-tabor.fandom.com/wiki/File:GHOSTS_Faction_Patch.png
main thing we need is a better home page
I noticed that too. It's not great for navigation at the moment
Thanks, I did some of it XD
damn
honestly we need some art for those, i know the ones from Tarkov are taken from there skill progression systems but we dont really have anything like that in Tabor
I was thinking about waiting for the game to release then I could see what images are available in it
On the 20th
theres not really any images available in game
we could how ever do some crops of stuff around the base
yeah
Eh. It would be better to have simple/stylised icons.
yah i dont disagree
If you guys want to test out how pages will look before posting them, you can setup a sandbox page for yourself
Are those creative commons?
Nice
yah those would work
Ugh I was struggling to get a gallery to display the way I wanted and I just learned that pure FANDOM wiki's, unlike Gamepedia based ones, use different syntax.
lol
Locations page current:
Proposed:
Look good?
I just changed how the galleries displayed and broke down the quad Bozidar image into 4 separate images
Who are you?
Orbb!
Hello Orbb
Like, do you want to know my background?
A little, sure
I've been admin on the Tarkov wiki for 5-ish years, I help moderate the Discord for the wiki and the official Discord for the game as well. Also do a bit of game localization edits to make the RUS -> ENG translation read better. ~3.7k hours in Tarkov
I'm also a big VR gamer and have thousands of hours on my Index and am very supportive and interested in new proper VR games. I saw VR + heavily inspired by Tarkov looter-shooter and it caught my attention. Thought I would get behind it and help out.
I think you would be a fantastic asset to the wiki
Oh, and I like poutine. Poutine is delicious. Too bad it basically doesn't exist for those outside of Canada...
Noted, but irrelevant
Hey @opal needle, can you tag this guy with wiki?
Thank you
Welcome to the team @static sinew
Oh, thanks!
Done, @static sinew welcome to Tabor, I have no doubt your expertise on the tarkov wiki will be a huge help for the Tabor wiki and the Tabor community!

I’ll be streaming soon if you want to see anything in game
Welcome to the wiki team
I applied that Locations page edit
Depending on how much information is going to be added and written about each location, it might be best for each location to have a separate page and have "Locations" be an overview page with only important and simplified information. Since there's really only one map at the moment, it's not a problem. Might be down the road, could get messy.
there is around 10 maps planned for the lifetime of the game, it'll be years, but there will be a lot more maps than the 1 right now
thats the plan
also gonna have a page for every single item lol
could you set up a template for items?
Might be easier once I have my hands on the game itself to properly understand and gather all the relevant stats for items, but yeah, I can do it
stats should be similar to tarkov
We should change the Favicon of the wiki to something unique. The Favicon is the icon displayed next to the tab or favourite name
Any ideas for what it could be?
we do have a favicon on the official website if you wanna use it:
https://ghostsoftabor.com/wp-content/themes/ghostsoftabor/img/favicon.jpg
Oh yeah that would work if you're ok with that. Thanks!
Also; I did a quick edit to the main page of the wiki to remove the (weirdly oversized) table of contents. Main pages shouldn't have it
When an admin is around, please download this image (I converted it to PNG from the JPG above so it's compatible), click the three dots in the top-right of the wiki and select "Theme Designer"
Then, you can upload the Favicon graphic
if any of you need a programmer for anything please contact me
Thanks for the offer Must, I'll keep it in mind :)
FYI You shouldn't lock/protect pages just because you believe they are "finalized", but when they are dealing with lots of vandalism, so others can always contribute to them
On a fresh Wiki i would also not recommend to disable anonymous editing as you'd want every helping hand you can find. Admins can change this setting in the Admin Dashboard
The Mainpage of course can and should be locked eventually
locking other pages doesnt make a lot of sense tho, not sure the current status of the wiki
@opal needle Would you be interested in this wiki getting the "Official Wiki" status on Fandom? That would mean it gets a neat badge like this, showing it's endorsed by the developers, and I believe you get access to the sites analytics, such as page view count, top search terms, and more. I could reach out to a Fandom staff member if you (or somebody else on the team) are interested in talking with them about it.
Oh, and it kinds point to people "This is the main wiki! Not those other dozen one-man projects!"
We are absolutely fine with it being the official wiki, but staff will not be moderating it.
It will remain a community made wiki.
Yup! I wouldn't expect you to do any moderation
If there ever were any requests though, I'm sure we wouldn't have a problem with accommodating them.
Same reason we don't moderate reddit, we got a game to focus on 😂
Heh
This is a Fandom article about the official status if you want to know a bit more: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Brian_Linder/Introducing_the_Fandom_Official_Community_Partnership_Program
id like to put out there the fact that fandom is not a great wiki software and at some point the wiki should switch over to something better, something to allow more freedom and not have the issues that fandom has like ads and being confusing as hell, not a pressing issue but it should be considered, fandom wikis tend to push users away especially users on bad connections and mobile phones.
to inexperienced users it can be counterintuitive at times
I am very, very, familiar Must
Reddit Subreddit guidelines are actually making it pretty hard for the Devs of a Game to have a Subreddit under their own wings anyway
its just something to consider
Even looked into making the Tarkov wiki independent for a while
fandom is not the final solution it cant be
Sure it can, many games use it, it's easily available
The Wiki will always remain in "community hands" just like the Subreddit
and also a pain to maintain
Oh, and an FYI, Muhawi is another admin on the Tarkov wiki
Noted
oh neat
I would say he's the "Main" admin for it
Fandom is not a Wiki software but a Wiki hoster. The software used is MediaWiki which is the same as on Wikipedia. Ads are needed for free hosting that doesn't put costs on the Devs. Can you elaborate what is confusing?
We've talked with some of the Fandom staff and they've been receptive to reducing the number and obtrusiveness of ads
It's much better than a few years ago
Thanks for the offer but i am not currently planning to get VR and/or Work on the Tabor Wiki unless there is something i can help Orbb out with
Fair enough
To add to this, there are no ads on the entire Wiki besides the Mainpage for registered users for what its worth.
The biggest issue I see with not using fandom, is that it cannot be allowed to hosted by a single community member.
It has to be a publicly available wiki service to remain community driven
If not dev-supported, someone else has to pay, yup. If that person or group of people stop supporting the game for example, the entire Wiki can be lost.
Self-hosting is a whole bag of worms
We looked into it and consulted with the Runescape wiki about how they did it and decided it wasn't the best solution, at least for us
Positives and negatives to it
Self hosting would only work if hosted by CWS itself, and we won't be spending any time or resources on a wiki for now.
It will remain community driven
Sounds good to me Fish
theres quite a few things, one is that the index page is unorganized and unsorted which can make it a pain to navigate, the next is that there is no comprehensive navigation for the whole wiki at all which is a very very good thing for games, new ammo is added? great, just add it and people can see that. Fandom also isnt exactly user friendly, the topbar with dropdowns is unfamiliar, it isnt good for people on bad connections or cell phones and its overall very cluttered and cramped, and a big thing is it just doesnt look nice, you have this big out of place yellow sidebar (which doesnt provide any real utility except for a small number of avid users) and you have useless popups. Its not that its bad inherently its just there are better options if you can look past the issue of self hosting a wiki
@opal needle I reached out to HeyTots#0001, the Fandom point of contact for getting wiki's the official status. He might reach out to you (though he's afk at the moment)
Self host won't happen, can't look past that.
1.The Mainpage is unorganized because the community didn't make a better one yet. Community issue not Fandom issue.
2.A top-nav is unfamiliar? Did you use like any Website in 2023?
I agree with the not-very-useful sidebar. The Index page being unorganised is something we can fix up
That's not a fandom issue, just a "we need to make it better ourselves" issue
3.The sidebar is part of the global navigation to link users across different things in the Fandom network, and i can understand people don't like it
the issue is that nothing is organized categorically, and when things are its done by hand
@whole tide Is the color of the sidebar based on if you're logged in/out, or is mine just purple because I have some night-mode set? I can't remember :p
Yes
most users will be bright yellow
Thats in the nature of a Wiki. If you want things categorizeded, you gotta categorize them.
Ouch i felt that no hurt feelings though all of us onvthe wiki team are rookies compared to orbb and muhawi
I was planning on getting categorization setup once I could get hands-on with the game myself
thats not how it has to be
Isn't the point of fandom that you do it all yourself
i dont know why youre arguing against making maintainence easier
there are things fandom does well
No offense but, you seem to have a inner hate against Fandom and try to prove it with your inexperience with the Wiki software MediaWiki
What sort of categorization system do other wiki hosts have that's automatic? I'm not very familiar with how others work
why are you directing this at me? im just posing the issues that are inherently there with fandom
Looks like they're against having to self host or something along those lines
which is a valid argument
I'm just used to adding it manually, which isn't a big deal
Not everything at Fandom is "perfect", but what you mentioned besides the Sidebar are "issues" on the Wiki not with Fandom
saying "lol ur bad" isnt a valid argument and isnt constructive
im saying there are BETTER solutions
not saying that fandom isnt good enough
im saying the issues it has drives away new maintainers and users
im saying this from experience with good wiki software
wiki systems that inherently does things different in a better way
what other public wiki host is available which works better @hushed nebula ?
that is something that i would have to look into
Out of the 3 "issues" you mentioned 1 isn't an issue with Fandom but a "local wiki" one which can be fixed. A top navigation is used on many "modern" websites and i don't see how its "bad". The global sidebar is Fandom specific and i can understand people don't like it.
I'm used to what Gamepedia/Fandom has since I've worked with them the past 5-ish years, but if there's a better solution I overlooked I'd be up for hearing it out
What software is that?
A nice Pro I have with Fandom is I'm experienced with it and can get support from their staff with any questions or issues I have, which I don't think I would readily be able to do with other hosts
I do understand the reservations though, we had them as well when Gamepedia was being bought out
I am not against anything. The Devs expressed they won't finance self-hosting above, and giving the responsibility to a single entitiy isn't the way
if you want to by hand support the index page thats ridiculous and inefficient, im not saying any software in specific i am saying that there are better options that do exist, if youd like i could send you an example of a website using private wiki software that does do what i am explaining, having a categorical organization system instead of a bunch of floating pages which hyperlink to eachother :)
Not even Wikipedia pages magically categorzie themselves by the way.
ok
and
the ghosts of tabor wiki has 8 different types of items
guns, ammo, food, armor, junk, ect
right
those can be automatically sorted
we have more
Again you seem to not understand how a Wiki works in the first place.
the point is that that is finite and not insanely large
a wiki displays information
in a way that is easy to read for the user
and is easily navigable
A core feature of a Wiki IS to have links on pages to other pages
This system is our attempt to create a place to store and update information about our games and projects. We use a combination of markdown and custom tags to make pages that are easy to create and provide a set structure.
We previously used Mediawiki..
look at this wiki
this for tabor would be so much nicer than what we have currently, same for tarkov
If you have a "blueprint" wiki page for every item type in the game set up, you don't need to extra "categorize" anything as the catgory will be in the source code already.
It does have nice UI, though this runs into the issue of needing to be hosted by somebody
exactly, thats the issue
not that fandom is PERFECT
open your eyes muhawi
mediawiki isnt the only wiki software in existence
its a bad one for small wikis
one of the worst actually
organizing every wiki like wikipedia isnt a good idea, having something domain specific is more professional and is better for the user
I am not defending Fandom if you believe that, just making things clear for people that are not too familiar with the wiki world.
youre talking down to me like im not
Since you claim things that are just not true
I'm gonna go take a shower, ping me if my input is wanted on something
mk :)
I'll respond when back
thanks orbb for your work on the wiki
Yup yup!
Can you elaborate on that?
can you answer the question?
.
Well just for example the things you claimed to be Fandom issues while they're local wiki "issues"? (Which aren't issues anyway)
no they are fundamental issues with fandom
that can be fixed by switching, or by maintainers doing manual labor
i know youre used to it and you dont want to be replaced so its ok i get it, but you gotta see that its not the best way to do things
If you claim that then the entirety of Wikipedia has a fundamental Issue
stop it
just
stop this mindset ok
the ghosts of tabor wiki with at most 1000 items
does not need the same treatment as wikipedia
wikipedia it works because it has millions upon millions of pages
having everything organized in one long sidebar like that wiki i sent would be chaos
and you cant definitively find a category for everything
Honestly @hushed nebula until you can provide a better solution, there's not really any reason to argue for/againt Fandom.
Come up with something better if you want a constructive debate about switching.
You try to push your mindset on the people here, while i neutrally talk about things
I am not in any way, or will be part of this Wiki and i'm the last person to not be open to new things. Your "approach" here is just very narrow and its unfair for the people that are not into the Wiki space.
my approach makes it easy for maintainers AND users to navigate to where they need to be
until you find a publicly hosted one, you have no approach.
Privately hosting not happening
you are completely missing the argument fish
the argument isnt that there is a readily available better solution we should change to immediately, im saying there are better options for the domain of tabor
changing your perspective of what a wiki looks like can provide the user a much better experience overall, thats my point
but you have no proof of any better option until you find a publicly hosted one
thats not the argument fish
you are saying there is better software available, everyone here has understood that.
But it means nothing
and i never refuted the issue of selfhosting being a problem.... right?
bippity boppity boo
my point isnt that it should switch now im saying if it ever does get switched, it should be to something that allows more freedom and better UX, such as the wiki i sent
everyone will have forgotten about that in 3 years when that happens.
My point is that your point is worthless at this moment in time where they are trying to get a wiki going
Forking from a Fandom Wiki at a later point is bad for everyone involved. You will have a split editing community and multiple Wikis are terrible for the end-user
switch
Fandom doesn't delete Wikis unless they have a veeeeery tiny usage.