NJZ Updates and Discussion

[empty halo]

okay better. also might sound like a silly question but why does ador need to FILE for contract termination with the courts if it's a private matter bw the girls and them

[polar owl]

No, that would be the prime years lost.

[frozen granite]

I doubt they’d want to come back idk … many things could happen in 4 years …

[heady gate]

They are not going back

[empty halo]

I don't think the girls would be 😭 they seemed so eager to restart activities and drop pit stop before the injunction

[frozen granite]

I meant come back to the industry

[polar owl]

They would move to their own successful solo careers. They are too talented.

[empty jetty]

Even if they lose they are likely to pay the termination clause, I don’t see them wasting more time

[empty halo]

exactly they've already been inactive for more than a year

[frozen granite]

Ok I’m getting nervous again

This is the worst heartbreak I’ve ever felt not to be dramatic

[empty halo]

don't be 😭 their careers are definitely NOT over. even if they lose they're more likely to terminate and move on

[frozen granite]

Move on as in?

[empty halo]

by paying the penalty fee

[heady gate]

Put yourself in their shoes. Does anyone want a workplace bullying environment for four years? I am sure they are not going back.

[empty halo]

move on to a new company and with their lives and careers after paying the penalty fee to ador and leaving (in case they lose)

[frozen granite]

When I said come back I was referring to the industry altogether, not ador

[heady gate]

ah

[frozen granite]

4 years is a long time, many things happen & people change I feel like at that point they would already have moved on & idk I also feel like njz would lose the hype …

[empty halo]

they'll be fine, they're massive, have a lot of fans and are probably loaded after 2 years of massive success. they still receive money from streams too

[frozen granite]

That’s why I fear this getting prolonged for four more years

[empty halo]

good thing they're not gonna be gone for 4 years 😭 they'll figure something out chill they have like one of the most qualified law firms in korea by their side

[frozen granite]

I rather next week be the end of all the legal battles

[snow furnace]

indeed

[upbeat stream]

Wait, same. Where do you live?

[upbeat stream]

"There have been cases where the artist didn’t even get to debut or receive a single payment and asked to terminate the contract based on that. But in this case, isn’t the claim about trust more like: ‘If it weren’t for Min Hee-jin, NewJeans wouldn’t even have been trainees at ADOR’? Or am I misunderstanding? Usually, a breakdown of trust refers to cases where there is a clear failure to settle accounts. This case is unusual, so I will have to think carefully about how to evaluate trust in the context of a long-term contract involving management and producing."

This is what the judge said at the first hearing, decide for yourself. I think it's not necessarily bad for newjeans. He is at least acknowledging that this case is unusual and he also understands the core issue of this conflict.

This kind of reasoning is actually pretty similar to that applied in that actress' case where the ruling stated:
"Although the contract did not explicitly state that only C should perform those duties, the court found that A had entered into the agreement based on trust in C"
A is the actress and C is her manager. This sounds similar to the 1st hearing where the judge says that njz wouldn't even have been trainees at ador if not for mhj

[empty halo]

interesting, very neutral i guess

daily prayer circle
🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ NJZ will win 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️

[tidal basin]

Praying for NJZ 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[waxen musk]

It’s no good that this is the only thing said by the judge we’ve got to go on to base our understanding of how they think. And at least they are thinking according to this. But is there not anything else the judge has said that we can overanalyse and interpret in whichever way benefits us?

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1980956757108359486?s=46

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1761131869:d>

[Daebak Tokyo] Opposition to NewJeans’ Activity Ban! 32 Prominent Figures Issue Statement – “A contract that forces them to be subordinate to their agency for 7 years is the real problem”
https://daebak.tokyo/2025/10/22/newjeans-16/

“NewJeans,” who unilaterally declared the termination of their exclusive contract with their HYBE-affiliated agency ADOR, have been in a legal dispute after ADOR filed a “lawsuit to confirm the validity of the exclusive contract” late last year. The third hearing was held on July 24, concluding the court proceedings after two failed mediation attempts. The final judgment is scheduled for October 30.

Ahead of the first trial verdict, 32 prominent South Korean figures have released a statement opposing the ban on NewJeans’ activities. The signatories include former National Assembly member Song Hye-won, Catholic University education professor Song Ki-seon, the head of the Civic Economic Research Institute, a former Supreme Council member of the Reform Party, a former president of the Korean Medical Association, a former MBC reporter, a former ambassador to Vietnam, lawyers, and current affairs commentators, among others.

In the statement released on the 22nd, they expressed regret over the current situation:

“We find it deeply unfortunate that due to a provisional injunction from the Seoul Central District Court, NewJeans are, in effect, prohibited from engaging in any form of entertainment or artistic activities.”

They further pointed out structural issues in Korea’s entertainment industry:

“Unlike the United States, which is an advanced nation in the entertainment industry and has a ‘certified agency system’ to protect artists’ legal interests, South Korea lacks such a framework. Instead, the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism’s standard contract forces an artist to be entirely subordinate to a single agency for seven years, while placing nearly all obligations...

[waxen musk]

...while placing nearly all obligations on the artist alone. The contract itself is the problem.”

The statement also highlighted the profits NewJeans brought to HYBE, noting:

“HYBE established ADOR as a subsidiary in October 2021 with a capital investment of 16 billion KRW. After NewJeans debuted in July 2022, HYBE’s operating profit alone has been nearly four times that initial investment.”

They added:

“In the United States, where certified agencies oversee such contracts, artists can secure the right to renew their contracts or obtain free-agent status through opt-out clauses. We urge the Korean government to take action on a national level to prevent a situation in which, due to a single court ruling based on a flawed standard contract, a globally recognized idol group, a potential national asset, is effectively dismantled and barred from pursuing the activities they wish to do.”

The statement concluded with a policy proposal:

“As a fundamental solution to the frequent contractual disputes and conflicts between artists and entertainment agencies, a problem unique to Korea, we strongly urge the government to actively consider introducing a U.S.-style certified agency system.”

Currently, NewJeans have been on hiatus for over six months, since March. The injunction prohibiting independent activities remains in effect, meaning the group cannot resume activities until at least after the first-trial verdict in October. If the court rules against them, their suspension may be prolonged even further.

I guess it’s nice to see. Again, no idea how much it helps. Obviously doesn't hurt.

[waxen musk]

Another thing the judge did that we’re coping means a good thing: https://x.com/poppykpoppie/status/1980985857529250254?s=46

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie)

people forget the judge specifically asked to hear from the members.. so minji and danielle went and shared their statements...and whatever they said wasn’t made public...that alone shows the court’s looking beyond contracts...and that’s not good news for hybe.
#freenewjeans

X · Oct 22, 2025, 1:13 PM

I really don’t remember how the injunction and appeal judges acted before the results tbh.

[short laurel]

can;t say about injunction judge, but we know appeal judges were hybe plant.

[rugged dagger]

mind you, these aren't groups from 1-2 years before their debut

unlike

[waxen musk]

The fact the same arguments happen over and over again is just silly. People will believe what they want and there's not a whole lot you can do to convince them of the truth. If it didn't happen months ago, it won't happen now.

[honest sky]

See u all at newjeans concert in singapore stadium tomorrow

[flint orbit]

wait wait huh?

[raven kelp]

gullible

[waxen musk]

Exactly 1 week until the 30th in Korea!

[fathom onyx]

🥶

[wise basin]

A week yall a week

[raven kelp]

man i want to rant so bad but i'll just stfu

[pulsar wasp]

BSH arrested, so he’s going to jail? Does this help NJZ at all?

[frozen granite]

Daily prayer for njz freedom

[empty jetty]

I don’t think insider trading helps the girls case, but it’s not like they need the extra help

They have a solid case as of now

[fathom onyx]

they do??
I'm out of the loop tbh I only get info from u guys

[raven kelp]

he is arrested?!!!

[normal trench]

They are seeking an arrest warrant, but that doesn't mean he's being sent to jail yet. It may mean that they have more evidence, so they want to keep him in custody until a trial.

[hoary frost]

mhm..

[raven kelp]

damn got my hopes up for nothing

[empty jetty]

He’s going to jail 100%, if there’s anything that Korean hate it’s financial crimes

[raven kelp]

hopefully

[clear hill]

Yea as a newgen sone and fx fan it’s rlly interesting seeing such obvious similarities between snsd and fx and newjeans.

I’d even argue red velvet as well esp w the red and velvet concept. It kinda reminds me of how melancholic ditto is and how cheerful attention is. Also reminds me of that magazine page I saw in here yesterday

[short laurel]

Remember how on belifts disgusting video, ppl keep pointed this out n belift kept deleting them n even threatening lawsuit.
Now that shit looks so funny.

[clear hill]

Hybe’s defence of newjeans being a copy of several things is clearly an attempt of deflection bc they know they can’t compare it to other kpop groups since mhj is the creative force behind said groups lol

It’s blatantly obvious how similar newjeans is to other sm groups. Even S.E.S said newjeans reminds them of them

[short laurel]

yea mhj worked on some of rv songs.

[clear hill]

Wasn’t she the creative director for rv tho

[short laurel]

from what little i know, she was not that involved with RV. only early projects.

like the perfect velvet and the red summer. both among biggest hits of rv

[hollow sorrel]

I doubt because their case is technically over already and he technically didn't have too much to do with it

[empty halo]

and it's not all similarities to 1 single grp, its similarities across pop culture in the whole world across decades, which is natural and bound to happen. so many similarities to a SINGLE group is unnatural.

[rugged dagger]

exactly

the fact that that many similar lines can be drawn between them is crazy

[empty halo]

anyone with 5 braincells can tell the difference between the way illit is similar to nwjns and the way newjeans may be similar to other grps, this shit is literally just ragebait

[empty halo]

honestly the choreography is the most blatant to me. yes dance moves aren't owned and they're repeated quite often, but again if a single grp keeps on repeating steps from ANOTHER SINGLE GROUP its not just natural similarities smh

[rugged dagger]

the issue i have is that belift deliberately sets them up and when it's pointed out, people think it's beef with the group itself which isn't the case

[empty halo]

the entire copying situation just feels like ragebait made to frustrate mhj, njz and the fandom 😭

[empty halo]

it pmo

mhj and njz NEVER not ONCE criticised the members of illit, NEVER

[clear hill]

It’s not even similarities atp. Similar means resemblance without being identical and we all know *llit being “similar” to newjeans isn’t a coincidence. It’s a planned and calculated decision with the intent of replacing newjeans

[empty halo]

I can acknowledge that there's things to criticise about mhj and that she isn't this girlboss to be always put on a pedestal. the way she handled the illit plagiarism situation is not one of the things that warrants criticism. its one of the things she handled well

[clear hill]

People like to minimize the amount of things belift has directly taken from newjeans for that group’s concept and just say”newjeans didn’t create y2k” “*llit is dreamcore and newjeans is y2k!” And etc but the thing is if they were merely coincidences and both just happen to have similar concepts then illit’s identity wouldn’t be tied to newjeans lol

[empty halo]

she tried to get it solved internally. it didnt work. she then did it publicly in a respectful and understanding manner. hybecels misconstrued EVERYTHING she said to make her look like a petty hater of teen girls

who knows, she might be, but none of those feelings were expressed in her public statements about the plagiarism situation

[clear hill]

The way she spoke about them compared to belift/Hybe really puts it into perspective. Like how much Hybe uses the members being rookies and young girls to garner emotional sympathy versus mhj emphasizes on the members not having anything to do with it and it’s simply an affair between executives that’s been blown out of proportion, that alone exposes the intent of both sides yet people refuse to see mhj as anything other than a “crazy groomer shaman”

[empty halo]

people love erasing history and acting like illit weren't constantly being mistaken for newjeans by locals when they debuted 😭
one of the top comments on the magnetic dance practice video is to this day "i thought they were newjeans"

[rugged dagger]

i wonder at what point all those fandoms decided to make newjeans the target

[empty halo]

nobody listens nobody gaf nobody wants to think critically about the person they hate (who in this case is mhj)

[empty jetty]

Not just locals, even international brands did

[empty halo]

at that point mhj's character has been assassinated, so basically they decided to make nwjns the target when they publicly showed support for mhj

[clear hill]

The moment newjeans topped the charts and became a threat to their favs securing a #1

[empty halo]

they tried to wrap the contempt in sympathy by saying "they were gRoOmEd by mhj" but eventually that wrap loosened and fell off, and turned into pure unadultareted hatred

hate trains in kpop have diff targets at diff points in time. it was Jennie then it was Wonyoung and then it was Newjeans

[clear hill]

Also I don’t think people realize how grooming literally takes your own individual agency away from you. From how the girls spoke about mhj and the working process when she was in charge, you can tell mhj cared for them like KIDS. Which is really ironic because companies have always treated their trainees and idols with harshness

Also mhj vocalized in many occasions how much she involved the parents. Considering how parents don’t have much contact with their idol kids it’s funny how fast the pitchforks come out when the questionable practices in the industry never alerted anyone who seems to care so much about them being groomed 💀

[empty halo]

agreed. the girls arent victimised by her to do the things she commands them to do 💀
they do what they do for selfish reasons (not using selfish as a negative term here). theyre doing what theyre doing for their OWN safety, independence and happiness. mhj gave them those 3 things, which is why they want her back. because she gave them what they want

im sure they have a close interpersonal relationship, but i dont think theyd jeapordize their happiness and career stability to stand by her. they stood by her because she gave them career stability and happiness

[empty halo]

min heejin is evil, the girls are good ➡️ min heejin is evil, the girls are evil ➡️ min heejin is evil, the girls are evil, their families are evil

[short laurel]

i again saw posts hater make online about girls, that should not be allowed on social media and twitter not doign anything dispite reports.

[stuck roost]

Please win WE all want to see ts fanfic about the mods written❤️‍🩹

[heady gate]

After the March injunction, I lack confidence in the Korean justice system, particularly its judges. I hope for the best on Oct 30, but prepare for the worst.

[wise basin]

https://tenor.com/view/positivity-beat-negative-thoughts-vibe-check-gif-11432367

[frozen granite]

Like I said I am good for a partial win at the very least

[empty jetty]

Can I be a side character

[stuck roost]

yes you whip it out in chapter 2

[cerulean lake]

if there’s a win, make bsh the villain in the story plz

[polar owl]

NJ wins, PD goes to jail - we take a deep breath and thank the heavens.

[normal trench]

https://tenor.com/view/cyphervmn-danielle-minji-danielle-and-minji-praying-danielle-and-minji-gif-1478222702961425853

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1981027165232832939

1tokki (@juantokki)

One thing we should all keep in mind right now is that no "prominent" figure in that society ever does something purely out of the goodness of their heart. There’s always a catch. It could be politics, personal gain, or strategic positioning.

It’s also entirely possible that

X · Oct 22, 2025, 3:57 PM

spot on the winning side as if this is a presidential election about to determine a country's future 😭

[polar owl]

I won't read too much into this analysis.

[zinc field]

Guys will the court case be live October 30th

[heady gate]

no

[stable sparrow]

this has probably already been discussed before, but did the court really say hybe did not mistreat newjeans?

[hushed whale]

160ish hours left

[frozen granite]

we are getting closer to see the light at the end of the tunnel

[cinder narwhal]

or you see the light but someone's waiting at the end to whack you 💀

[short laurel]

The darkness of the shadow in the light.

[upbeat stream]

No but tokkis will be in attendance since it's public just like the hearings

[red thorn]

I will be there
In spirit

[zinc field]

That’s good

[empty halo]

I have a bad feeling about this

[cerulean lake]

idk abt them saying that directly. i think they recognized that njz were being kinda ostracized or mistreated from hybe, but the injunction judge said that they weren’t mistreated “enough” especially when they were still getting paid smh. i think it was smth along those lines

[mild mist]

The injunction judge determined that many of the claimed breaches were from hybe and not from ador so weren't relevant in the case.

[frozen granite]

About what specifically?

[short laurel]

hybe can freely change ador's members but their action against njz are not relevant is really dumb logic. why couldn't judge consider that ador not taking any action against hybe when they share the same building.

[empty halo]

oct 30th

[frozen granite]

You feel something bad will happen?

[wise basin]

No pls don't

[empty halo]

lowkey

[empty halo]

we should all keep our expectations low so that if they lose it wont be too disappointing and if they win it'll be even more exciting

[short laurel]

anything to coup.

[snow furnace]

[upbeat stream]

Two new petitions filed today

There was already one on the 16th which was supposed to be pro-njz. I think these two are likely from both sides. One favoring njz and the other ador

[polar owl]

Lol, who are these Ador supporters? They don't even have any other group.

[river pendant]

[empty halo]

daily prayer circle
🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ NJZ will win 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️

[rugged dagger]

only one person can save us now

[honest sky]

Me

[fathom onyx]

[heady gate]

Before and after. Danielle's cover is gone.

https://www.instagram.com/paris_capitale_officiel/

[hollow sorrel]

does this mean ADOR's side submitted a "fan" petition while NewJeans' side submitted a petition from industry professionals and celebrities... It's looking good for the girls ngl

[frozen granite]

If I know correctly, a petition is a request for a specific action, does it say what is the petition for?

[cerulean lake]

probably got threatened or smth 😓

[waxen musk]

Is it coincidence that (we assume) both sides submitted petitions on the same day? Because I hope the judge isn't asking for this type of "evidence" to help them decide. It really shouldn't come down to petitions to help change a judge's mind.

[waxen musk]

I saw Dani today at the Omega shop, just an hour ago. She's not disappearing from that at least. And you see that a lot more often than just a France-exclusive magazine. Hard to know the reason why it's gone from that Instagram account.

Old photoshoots being used as new advertising still happens at least with OLENS so I don't see any difference with that magazine advertising Omega.

[cerulean lake]

hmm maybe they just want to avoid any possible troubles bc her contract w/ omega is probably still ongoing at the moment, but idk abt that magazine. might be seen as promo

[waxen musk]

Like I said I see no difference in how things work with OLENS. What is the difference, if you disagree?

I do wonder when some stuff like Calvin Klein store photos of the girls starts going away. They can't stay up forever!

[cerulean lake]

i mean maybe olens is more aware of the situation and they have a direct contact w/ njz at the moment, so they can use old photos for other promo

but that magazine is like pretty random. they just ended up putting her omega photo

might be seen as unwarranted “promo”

[waxen musk]

Yeah who knows. I mean a magazine just using literal ad photos and not anything custom for the front cover just seems cheap to me in the first place. But whatever, was cool to see while it lasted.

[heady gate]

Korean judges must address external influence. It is rough.

[frozen granite]

Is there support to both parties equally split in half or is it leaning more towards one side?

[heady gate]

One petition on each side

[wise basin]

6 more days it's getting real

[empty jetty]

Well unless bots count as a person

There’s more support on njz side

[frozen granite]

What is the petition requesting though?

[waxen musk]

Talking about Krystal’s new song and BANA in #kpop-chat if you’re interested. Obviously I said the other day I’d be curious of the credits of her stuff and if any producers or other NJZ related people worked on it.

Just wondering if Pit Stop is getting a SoundCloud (only) release next week…

[hollow sorrel]

I wonder if the petition ador submitted is this:
https://x.com/Adorsupporters/status/1980930039807193199

어도어서포터즈 ador supporters (@Adorsupporters)

탄원서 발송 완료되었습니다!

X · Oct 22, 2025, 9:31 AM

[empty jetty]

A "mysterious" random pit stop release on SoundCloud

[hollow sorrel]

this account is so ridiculous that its hard to tell if this is actually a move by Kim and Chang or just a random troll

[waxen musk]

Oh god after that embarrassing "press conference" outside the Hybe building with no attendees. Surprised "ador supporters" is getting so much attention. I can't even tell if Ador themselves care about these people (or single person lol)

[frozen granite]

Are the ador supporters being paid by hybe? I wonder

[waxen musk]

I'm starting to doubt the BANA (only) strategy for NJZ

[empty jetty]

Super likely

[frozen granite]

Wait this is their twitter account? How many followers do they have ?

[hollow sorrel]

7 but a lot of them are his own accounts he set up

"to help with hashtag campaigns"

[frozen granite]

Bruh

https://tenor.com/view/bang-si-hyuk-bang-pd-hybe-bighit-bts-gif-13977417209831961705

[empty halo]

this is the fakest shit ive seen in my entire life ijbol

https://tenor.com/view/kpop-reaction-meme-reaction-funny-laughing-gif-13702111845213961940

[empty halo]

"ador supporters" = ADOR

obviously just paid a handful of people to pull ts

obviously if there was a decent amount of the fanbase that supported ador they wouldve popped up a long time ago, not days before the court verdict to submit a petition 💀

I just realised I say obviously a lot

[waxen musk]

Obviously

[empty jetty]

obviously

[upbeat stream]

This is the pro-njz petition. It's too long to type here

https://daebak.tokyo/2025/10/22/newjeans-16/

[short laurel]

Someone said hybe ador submitted the petition of ador supporter. So yes

[mild mist]

evidently

[short laurel]

What i m wondering is where are teambunnies. There petition from injunction time would be useful here

[upbeat stream]

Same. Perhaps they got discouraged because their petition couldn't help in the injunction

[hushed whale]

do judges even read those petitions? it prob doesnt change the verdict much anyway
even if they do, i feel like they only care about legal arguments

[upbeat stream]

It's probably too late anyway. The decision is being drafted right now. From what I know, they finalize it 5-7 days prior

It's not like an injunction where they just announce the order whenever they feel like it. Main lawsuit ruling is very lengthy

[frozen granite]

So they probably already have a decision???

[upbeat stream]

Pretty much. Idk why they didn't submit this petition earlier. One of the petitioners is Korea's former ambassador to Vietnam btw

[blazing sky]

https://discordapp.com/channels/948917131989381173/948917817724514325/1431048102210437262

I think this would be a fun idea !! i saw it on twt. to show support :>

[frozen granite]

So the petition siding with NewJeans that was submitted would not really help either ?

[wise basin]

So you’re telling me the fate of newjeans is just vibing in a drawer somewhere in Seoul??

[frozen granite]

Someone should raid the building & retrieve the file

[waxen musk]

I'm still really confused by whoever said they should know the results the day before because that's what happened with the injunction(?).
And there's everyone expecting them to have the option to appear in court on the day?
And people think K-Bunnies can attend the "hearing"?
I honestly don't know what to expect but a lot of people are assuming things work very differently than they do in my head. We will see.

6 days, 1 hour and 22 minutes left.

[wise basin]

We need to pull a louvre on that building

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1981331621384171774

1tokki (@juantokki)

[English Translation]

For Public Interest:

Earlier this year, I was contacted by the police. They informed me that HYBE had filed a defamation and insult complaint against me over a comment I posted on a Naver News article. Since I had never used any profanity, I asked for

X · Oct 23, 2025, 12:07 PM

[empty jetty]

Did we really knew the results before they were public???

[waxen musk]

We didn't.

[empty jetty]

Hybe is so fucking salty lmao

But cyberwreckers are left untouched

[empty jetty]

Ngl I feel like bunnies tend to misremember a lot of stuff

I’ve seen it quite enough on the year+ i have been on the fandom(i do it too, but i feel like this is so recent that it’s difficult to not remember it correctly)

[waxen musk]

There's a lot to remember in general and I can't do it. I try, but my memory isn't as good as I want it to be.

Anyway to summarise what I meant to say is different people have very different expectations on just the procedure and how things work for the judgment next Thursday. Whereas I don't really know what to expect and keep hearing different things. It doesn't matter really to be honest.

All that matters is we hear what the result is.

It would be nice to know all the details that went into the decision.

[cerulean lake]

can they run the long ahh petition through chatgpt really quick for a summary and then write the verdict 😭

they got 6 days 🙏

[frozen granite]

We need all the shamans from the world

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1981530876132676088

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1981530876132676088 does not contain any media!

[waxen musk]

off the top of my head from my count for X (users, not the platform) alone theres around like 10(incl u) (all dismissed except for one cause it was fairly new i believe? need an update on that)

I know one fan that also got sued (dismissed) (not active on X)

(important to note that none of these were about the artists but from the execs / company)

so just x2-5 that cause most people prob aren't too comfortable sharing their side

It doesn't even matter if Hybe continues to fail at actually suing these people, just going through the process is enough to discourage people from speaking up. It's sad how might work.

Last Friday was such a nightmare with the news about MHJ followed by our understanding that it was not as bad as it seems. I was hoping for nothing similar this week and it seems we won't be getting that. I suspect they don't want to draw away the attention of what they should be focusing on today. It's next week that I really wonder what will be like.

Someone shared a clip of how excited Dani was about the future as NJZ before the Pit Stop performance. I hope their excitement and hopes haven't vanished.

[hollow sorrel]

MIN HEEJIN ALLEGEDLY MADE A NEW AGENCY? https://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=15850507

[viscid prism]

What???

[hollow sorrel]

take with a grain of salt ofc

[cinder verge]

what does this mean

[upbeat stream]

Star news is somewhat reliable, at least compared to other entertainment outlets. They say it's a rumor so who knows

[short laurel]

403 forbidden

[hollow sorrel]

Wait lemme send screenshots

[upbeat stream]

opens for me

[cinder narwhal]

same

오케이(ooak)

[hollow sorrel]

It must be short for something like all doors one room…

[cinder narwhal]

pronounced okei, OK, okay

WE GONNA BE OK!!

[short laurel]

ty

[hollow sorrel]

this is so crazy??? do you think this confirms that NJZ are leaving ADOR on the 30th no matter what even if they have to pay penalties I feel like she has some kind of investor helping them???

[cinder verge]

what does this even mean

[upbeat stream]

This is massive. They either expect to win or intend to get out of the contract in some other way. If she wanted to just work, she could've joined another label or worked as a freelancer

[heady gate]

Her shareholder case will conclude on Dec. I hope she wins.

[cinder verge]

so newjeans coming back?!?'

[heady gate]

ask the same question again after Oct 30

[cinder narwhal]

safer to separate mhj and nj

dont assume and be heartbroken later lol

[hollow sorrel]

I doubt she established an agency to sign other artists

[raven kelp]

praying that she won't upload a "clarification regarding rumours on new agency" post later

[cinder narwhal]

just a precaution especially for the weak hearted in this chat

[steep torrent]

whole ass new building too? this is getting my hopes up

[hollow sorrel]

what if Krystal solo album will also be released under OOAK?

thats why they only put it on soundcloud for now

[cinder narwhal]

remind me did she let go of her ador shares?

[frozen granite]

Too late now

[cinder narwhal]

rip it was especially for you

[cinder narwhal]

ah

[frozen granite]

Funny … antis wanted newjeans out of hybe & now they want them back

[copper jetty]

Yeah... so if that Shareholder's agreement is off then good to say that the non compete is also off... I think what they're fighting basically is the put option that MHJ has.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1981612108791120246 bit more in depth

1tokki (@juantokki)

Min Hee-jin preparing to recruit NewJeans? Launches new entertainment agency ‘OK’
https://t.co/NHcdd1vUVz
By reporters Kim Jin-bae and Kim Tae-ho

- Corporate registration completed on the 16th, located in Sinsa-dong, Gangnam
- If NewJeans wins the lawsuit on the 30th, she is

X · Oct 24, 2025, 6:41 AM

[copper jetty]

But since it's just rumors for now... let's take it with a grain of salt eh.

[upbeat stream]

This is exactly what I've been saying. In a job, if your company terminates your contract, non-compete doesn't hold

[empty halo]

I knew a new agency was the way they'd move forward 😭 yeah this isnt confirmed but idk it just makes sense

[short laurel]

ooak is the name

[empty halo]

after being fucked over by an established label, creating your own is simply what makes sense

[short laurel]

one of a kind. not "OK" that 1tokki wrote

[copper jetty]

It makes sense too. Idk if this is legit but if the business was already registered to MHJ then it's quite easy to see on govt page already right?

[empty halo]

okay I think this news might be fake bc idk if they'd pick a name like that

[mild mist]

Yeah whatever their equivalent of the company register is

[copper jetty]

Well that's what i thought too but there's "all doors, one room."

[short laurel]

one of a kind is not a bad name. but yea, mhj has constantly picked good names under hybe, no way she's gonna choose a bad one for her own company.

[empty halo]

but the acronym ADOR sounds so satisfying. cannot say the same for OOAK

[hollow sorrel]

I just say Oak like the tree

[empty halo]

exactly its weird

[copper jetty]

Maybe there's a reason for it. But ngl, newjeans as a name for a gg was kind of weird for me at first. Even bunnies

[empty halo]

yeah true

[mild mist]

Anyone who can provide clarification on this - I thought that min heejin's side's stance was that the shareholder agreement was still in place? Have they changed that now to "It has been terminated from hybe's side in an unjust fashion"?

[empty halo]

is this confirmed??? bc if it is its a big deal

[frozen granite]

a W?

[short laurel]

not as weird as some other gorups out there.

[short laurel]

regardless of the result, there will be appeal from losing side. so expect this case to last longer. what's W is the resumption of the activities.

[copper jetty]

Yeah... I still cringe at vcha.

[hollow sorrel]

also who cares about the name it’s just going to be at the end of music videos

[mild mist]

To be fair, names do have to be weird so that when you search for them, it should only be the group that comes in the results

[cinder narwhal]

hangul is okei

[empty halo]

how would ador be able to file for damages to the members for unilaterally halting activities if they win contract is considered null¿? theyd probably file for an appeal if they lose right?

[frozen granite]

So while ador can appeal but the girls can still make & release new music ?

[short laurel]

maybe it's her way of telling the ways that they are okay

[short laurel]

hopefully yea.

[empty halo]

idk i dont like it 😭 but who cares its just the name of the agency

[frozen granite]

Question … If ador wins, the girls can just pay the penalties & leave to prevent waiting until 2029?

[copper jetty]

Yes

[hollow sorrel]

if it really stands for ‘one of a kind’ it kinda fits pit stop concept tbh

‘cut from a different fabric, you haven’t seen my best yet’

[rare dune]

interesting

[empty halo]

what does "all doors one room" even mean

[hollow sorrel]

yes

[frozen granite]

I love this

[short laurel]

that's(the pic) assuming girls go back to ador, but girls will not. they will have some kind of agreement with ador to pay penalities while they work for any agencies they want.

[cinder narwhal]

ask the shaman

[empty halo]

https://tenor.com/view/min-hee-jin-newjeans-stan-twitter-messy-eating-gif-16593906549010037501

[frozen granite]

Wait I’m confused, why would they need to go back to ador just to pay the penalties?

[empty halo]

I looked up "min heejin" on the gif bar and I found an extremely weird gif related to gracie abrams and illit¿? what even is going on today im confused

[copper jetty]

She just be chilling and I hope busy at the upcoming opening of her new label.

[red thorn]

It means one room for all doors

[empty halo]

okay that kinda sorta makes sense..... kinda

[copper jetty]

Yeah but what exactly does that mean?

[hollow sorrel]

Can we talk about how she constructed a building with 20k dollars??? Or there must be more investment that was not reported by media

[short laurel]

no, if they go back to ador there will be no penalties. but girls will not go back to ador so there will be penalties if they lose. but girls can work whereever they want. while carrying that as debt.

[copper jetty]

Maybe a lease?

[empty halo]

one room (the company) with multiple doors (possibilities) is the way Im interpreting it

[frozen granite]

Ah ok thanks

[red thorn]

Boku no hero
One for all

[short laurel]

probably soe other company constructed it and she's just renting space.

[frozen granite]

Ok chat I guess we shouldn’t panic too much… either outcome the girls will be free

[short laurel]

even hybe doesn't own the build. they rent it iirc

[empty halo]

absolutely 😭 its literally not over even if they lose

[copper jetty]

And would it depend on Hybe on how they pay or the court? We're not even talking about this... I think this is much more important, although mhj establishing a new agency (if true) is kind of a good news too.

[empty halo]

OOAK is giving me hope
even if i hate the name

[frozen granite]

I sort of like it

[short laurel]

court decide panelty. i think ador will have to file another case of that. and girls and ador will have to come up with an agreement to decide how to pay. this is assuming girls lose.

[copper jetty]

I'm having tokkium on the news of a new agency cause win or lose they're gonna be active once more.

[empty jetty]

the agency stuff made my day

[red thorn]

If it's stand for one of a kind
I think it's pretty nice hangul wordplay

[empty halo]

if OOAK is real theyre confident about winning. but they were also confident about winning the injunction and dropping pit stop

[frozen granite]

NewJeans who? Idk who they are I only know njz from ooak

[copper jetty]

Love your profile pic BTW.

[short laurel]

it does stands for that according to articles.

[empty halo]

whats the hangul wordplay?

[empty jetty]

😭 thanks

[wicked timber]

so ooak is true. i thought twt users lying again
this seems like a good sign?

[red thorn]

#1231839760759263232 message

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Message linked

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[empty halo]

ohh
"Okay"

[copper jetty]

It's not yet confirmed so take it with a grain of salt

[empty halo]

dont get too hopeful

[hollow sorrel]

danielle sister instagram update (probably about halloween tho)

[red thorn]

Uhuh

[empty halo]

definitely about halloween

just realised the verdict is on halloween

[frozen granite]

Halloween is the 31 not 30

What was even that

[hollow sorrel]

maybe she has some schedule on october 30 that we don’t know about

[red thorn]

That was flash news I saw

[empty halo]

idk we dont celebrate halloween where im from 😭

[unborn arrow]

shes dropping a new song

[hollow sorrel]

ohh okay

[raven kelp]

my hopes are now too high there is no going back

[empty halo]

according to a post by kpop herald that juantokki reposted OOAK finished corporate registration on oct 16. is there any way to confirm this? yknow like the registration

through some lookup on a website or something

[short laurel]

maybe it's owned by someone else but people assuming it's mhj. maybe mhj involved in it in some way like designer.

[frozen granite]

Same

[raven kelp]

i am already picturing ooak/okay/okei in njz mv credits

[frozen granite]

Not sure if we are simply gullible, traumatized or both

[upbeat stream]

Multiple media have reported it, citing their own sources. It's almost certainly true

[naive hound]

https://x.com/newjeans_loop/status/1981614433664188825?t=uQ951bgN791mhsLuE_DThg&s=19

MHDHH Loops 🧸🦦🐶🐱🐹 (@newjeans_loop)

Former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin has established a new entertainment agency.
According to a report by Newstap, Min completed the corporate registration for a company named OOAK Co., Ltd. on the 16th.

The company’s stated business purposes include celebrity management, music

X · Oct 24, 2025, 6:51 AM

[upbeat stream]

Compare that to the report that njz signed with BANA, back in March. That was just one media, with no details

[wicked timber]

setting myself up for another disappointment

[upbeat stream]

This one has many specifics too

[frozen granite]

You & me both

[raven kelp]

but how did everyone reach at ooak? shouldn't it be okay?

[empty halo]

https://tenor.com/view/danielle-new-jeans-new-jeans-danielle-bombastic-side-eye-side-eye-gif-27670771

NEW LABEL

[wise basin]

Chat how are we feeling??
Bc i don’t wanna get my hopes up

[upbeat stream]

I know I shouldn't get my hopes up but this is the first time I've felt good about the situation in months. So I just can't help it 😭

[frozen granite]

Same

[short laurel]

we know better to trust these outlets. i only trusts topstarnews since they seemed to be most fair(not fair ofc just better than others). if they say it's a rumour, i'll c it as rumour.

[frozen granite]

This is why I’m smiling ear to ear

[empty halo]

theyre accusing her of announcing it on the same day as lsrfm's comeback on purpose (she hasnt announced it)

my mistake, i checked kpop reddit

[frozen granite]

On twitter ?

[empty jetty]

"she wasn't born to be CEO" smh i hope those ppl shut their mouths

[empty halo]

r/kpop

[empty jetty]

hybe subreddit, avoid

[empty halo]

never open reddit EVER its gonna piss u off

[red thorn]

Oo-K

[empty halo]

well not kpop reddit

[ashen charm]

It does bring hopes up a bit but don't think we won because haven't even crossed the finish line

[empty halo]

even if they dont win on the 30th, whenever they eventually do get their freedom, they have an agency backing them. this is something to be happy about

[empty jetty]

Reminder that the court can give the win to ador but give the girls the option to pay to be out of the contract

[frozen granite]

Even if ador wins the girls will come back soon

[ashen charm]

Depends on how much they have to pay I doubt it will be cheap

[empty halo]

2026 is their year i feel it in my veins MMMMMMMMMMMM

[pseudo heath]

I feel like the court will have to make it reasonable, pretty sure the girls will pay it even if it is quite expensive

[frozen granite]

Someone said on here said the girls will be in debt but be able to resume activities

[ashen charm]

Court could make them pay half or the full penalty

[hollow sorrel]

same like this is objectively the best news we've heard in months

[empty halo]

theyll ask for termination, ador will file that to the court and the court will decide no? besides im sure the girls arent financially struggling 💀 they were on top of the kpop industry for 2 years and still recieve money from streams

and theyre still getting a LOT of streams. theyll be fine

[empty jetty]

The girls have money

[wicked timber]

she probably has ptsd from working under big labels

[frozen granite]

The amount of times I’ve streamed their songs daily, trust me they are good

[empty jetty]

Even if it’s an exaggerated amount they will be able to be on debt for a few months(even years) since they are going to get a lot of deals from brands(highly likely)

All is speculation ofc

[empty halo]

they were brand ambassadors for the top luxury fashion houses in the world, they were doing advertisements for an innumerable amount of brands, performing constantly at big events. theyre loaded for life bro

[empty halo]

and debts are not uncommon in kpop either

[raven kelp]

where are the usual voice of reason members of this chat

[waxen musk]

Just heard the news. Oh shit lol. Nice!? Is this what people wanted?

[empty jetty]

On the music industry on general

[raven kelp]

i need someone to ground me to reality

[empty jetty]

I totally never expected this, if I ever said to someone that they were wrong about this I’m sorry

[frozen granite]

Im here

[mild mist]

Ook? (inb4 nobody else has read those books)

[empty jetty]

Im delulu

[empty halo]

they were confident about winning the injunction and releasing pit stop too but that didnt work out well. so even if theyre confident about winning this and starting OOAK, doesnt mean theyre gonna win

[frozen granite]

what do YOU want ?

[raven kelp]

HELL NO

[ashen charm]

Isn't it for the whole contract they were getting fined 2029?

[upbeat stream]

zyx maybe

[empty jetty]

World tour, pit stop studio version and a western bacon

[empty halo]

and that damn full album

[frozen granite]

Zyx was somewhat optimistic

[empty jetty]

Contracts can be bought out, it’s just a matter of the money that it will cost to break

[rare dune]

nj1

[waxen musk]

I only really care about what the NJZ members want. When it came to agencies for NJZ, I really REALLY didn't have a good idea of what they wanted. I heard people say this as a potential possibility although probably lower chance than joining something already established. I think it's cool news and will allow for complete freedom. Of course this is assuming NJZ will be under this label.

[rare dune]

i want to support the girls in whatever decision they make

[ashen charm]

Okay I was confused becuase I was seeing like 440m or some shit

[waxen musk]

I gotta go back and read the reactions lol. I haven't actually read anything yet regarding details.

[copper jetty]

Guys what's Ador's capital vs this new label? How much did Hybe put into ador again?

[empty jetty]

I’ve seen the number 16m usd on Twitter, I gotta investigate tho

[waxen musk]

Google has the answers.

[frozen granite]

Ok I’m going to sleep hope we keep this positive energy going gn tokkis

[empty jetty]

14.4m usd

[bronze talon]

16b

[waxen musk]

All I know is you don't do this unless you plan to do something with it. And I don't see MHJ abandoning the girls lol. So this seems like VERY good news. If there's any reason to be disappointed after this news... I'll probably be quite angry.

[empty jetty]

The light is becoming brighter, I don’t see reasons to be sad as even on the worst case there’s an exit

[waxen musk]

Of course the haters and Tokkis that people call "fake" will probably already be angry

[empty jetty]

They are already hating on MHJ bc this news leaked on the lsf cb

[short laurel]

whatever much hybe put in ador, newjeans easily paid it back. i m sure mhj will have mroe than enough investors ready to put much more than that for newjeans or new project.

[ashen charm]

That's stupid bevuase she registered it on the 16 th 🙄 and the news only reported it on the 24th

[waxen musk]

Oh wow. I forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me. I'm super curious after the teaser.
But yeah I get it. It's big news. Is this news being treated as huge in K-pop spaces? Because it's huge for me.

[short laurel]

i c other server reporting on it. so it is big. either way mhj and lsf are saperate. they shouldn't have any conflict for fans to be angry about lol

[hollow sorrel]

help?? what is she supposed to do about it

[empty jetty]

(I skipped the jhope part, it’s an "album" but it’s 8 songs{songs with 4 versions each} but they are kinda good)

[empty halo]

i know and now theyre accusing of HER of announcing it on the same day as a hybe grps comeback like bro

[hollow sorrel]

maybe she really is 5th gen it girl the way her registering a business makes some fandoms feel threatened

[empty halo]

if the song isnt recieved well theyre gonna blame her for it trust

[waxen musk]

Oh stfu people will remember this news more than some single in a year from now, right?

[hollow sorrel]

also she registered on the 16th no? media just found out now

[waxen musk]

When is legit the last time we got good news btw? I was gonna ask this the other day btw.

[ashen charm]

Hybe stans are already turning the naritivate like give it up

[hollow sorrel]

this is not njz related but what if Krystal only released her song on soundcloud because she will sign to ooak? @waxen musk

[ashen charm]

The way I see it njz could sign for 3 labels Bana jennie or mhj

[waxen musk]

I don't know if it's because I'm in a good mood but the teaser sounded bad to me but I enjoyed the full song. It's fun. (But yeah WHY j-hope).
Anyway back to NJZ sorry lol.

[empty halo]

idk where everyone got the idea that theyll be signing to oddatelier 😭 they've interacted w Jennie like once. I mean it just sounds way too dreamy to be true. Its either BANA or new label

[empty jetty]

The teasers were fun but yeah, the music wasn’t great

And yeah that’s all for me on the topic hehe srry m0ds

[ashen charm]

It's just coincidence that she opened her company space as newjeans court was approaching

[waxen musk]

No clue. Seems like BANA is the one doing all the (poorly handles in my opinion) press and everything for Krystal.

[empty halo]

njz signing to OA sounds like a fantic 😭 id love for it to happen but i dont think its real

[craggy skiff]

one of a kind. what a surprise birthday gift for me but damn, it set my hope up since I tried to make it low as possible.
Only one week left, can't she wait a bit

[empty halo]

happy birthday!!

[short laurel]

happy birthday

[hollow sorrel]

happy birthday

[rare dune]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-hanni-haerin-minji-danielle-gif-27625572

[empty halo]

I dont think theyre the proper mainstream label njz needs. new label just makes more sense

[waxen musk]

Happy birthday hit.

[ashen charm]

New label is a risk tho super high expectations especially with a group as big as nkz

[empty halo]

ador was a new label too. yes i know they were under hybe and got hybe's funding but apart from that their operations were separate from those of other hybe groups. as for the funding, im sure they have investors eager to invest into one of the biggest ggs in kpop

[ashen charm]

Just don't expect sold out tours 40k seats first world tour maybe 2 second year

[waxen musk]

Man what a way to start the day. Less than 6 days left and now I suddenly don't really give a shit what happens next week.

[rare dune]

more seats for me

[hollow sorrel]

new label eliminates a huge risk factor though, because before some people were saying investors should buy out their contract (if the lawsuit doesn't go well) ok but what after that? where would they go?

but now that is out of the question because its pretty obvious they would join ooak

[rare dune]

honestly their popularity would be the least of my concern rn

there’s a loyal fanbase waiting for them even if it is smaller than what it was before

[ashen charm]

Getting tickets would be it's gunna be a blood bath

[rare dune]

14 million monthly listeners stil is a lot of people

also i NEED tickets

[ashen charm]

Smaller venues sure they'll ad dates but first win the the lawsuit

[empty halo]

i wish i lived in america they get like 3847827474 shows per tour, that too from all sorts of artists

[waxen musk]

Livvy has a new single releasing. (Sorry if someone already replied. I'm backreading lol.)

[rare dune]

we’ll see if they even come near me first

although my mom said she might fly me out to see them if they’re closeish since i’ve been begging to see them for years

[pseudo heath]

All theyll have to do is drop another good song and theyll definitely gain back a majority of what ever fan base they lost

[short laurel]

i'll support njz even if i m the only bunnies left alive.

[red thorn]

I bet there's someone rn refreshing mhj's IG

[rare dune]

tokki forever

[empty halo]

the music and sound needs to be their top priority, thats what differentiated them from the rest of kpop

[craggy skiff]

who's ador's newjeans?
I stan ooak's njz

[rare dune]

excited to see them dance again

[mild mist]

That's fine most arenas aren't more than 20k. They can fill those.

[ashen charm]

I need a better job if I wanna get tickets and merch

[empty halo]

I was just doing that a whole ago 😭 I was also refreshing mhdhh_friends to see if they followed a new label and also looked around for accounts w the names "oneofakind" or "ooakofficial" etc lmfao

[rare dune]

sjskskjd so quick

[runic knoll]

looks like MHJ create new agency
https://x.com/allkpop/status/1981612540984541455

allkpop (@allkpop)

Min Hee Jin reportedly establishes new entertainment company 'ooak'
https://t.co/HwULR4HrDG

X · Oct 24, 2025, 6:43 AM

[craggy skiff]

you got them soon lol. fake account in coming

[empty halo]

true

[runic knoll]

i could definitely see MHJ signed up the girls on her new agency

[copper jetty]

Why are we including Jennie's label?? I thought she was focusing on her own activities with this?

[copper jetty]

Happy birthday btw!!

[pseudo heath]

Happy birthday

[ashen charm]

Becuase it was speculated that she could sign newjeans

[craggy skiff]

thank guys

[ashen charm]

Oh uej happy birthday

[empty halo]

someone make us less hopeful quick

[wicked timber]

doesnt that just sound like they r threatened by a mere rumor of a new company that MIGHT house njz

[craggy skiff]

i wanna see how haters react to this new. lol
they want newjeans out hybe then ask them to go back
now what

[pseudo heath]

I promise you kpop subreddit will be tweaking

[ashen charm]

I'm going on it rn

Nothing yet

[empty halo]

theyre accusing her of announcing this on purpose to hinder lesserafims comeback (she didn't even announce it herself bro)

[empty halo]

there's a post on r/kpop already filled w disappointment and unhappiness

[waxen musk]

I know some people are "wait for it to be confirmed" because of WHERE the news came from (nasty reporters) but seriously do you think those people could come up with a name like OOAK (One of a Kind) (pronounced OK)? That's the only reason it's believable.

[short laurel]

i honestly not like ooak.

one of a kind is nice but ooak...

[empty jetty]

2OAK

[ashen charm]

NEWOK

[short laurel]

now 2oak sounds better. 2 oak woods.

[buoyant hamlet]

there was a nightclub in las vegas called one of a kind spelled 1OAK

[raven kelp]

happy birthday

[heady gate]

wow, this chat is alive again.

[buoyant hamlet]

we are so back

[empty halo]

same 😭 it feels kinda.... idk basic. "one of a kind" is a very common phrase. all doors one room is unique and weird, and theres probably no company w the same name lmfao

[red thorn]

Thats a bit like anagram of Lee soo man new agency

[wicked timber]

in 6 days it's either gonna be celebration with champagne or mass crying session

[ashen charm]

nayeon kim def coming to ooak

[short laurel]

in 6 days, either we c redditors lossing their mind, or we leave social media for weeks.

[heady gate]

yea, season finale in 6 days.

[empty halo]

ooak also creates confusion in pronounciation. we know its pronounced as okay but people who are unfamiliar will call it oak

[raven kelp]

*x
https://x.com/butterfly_jihye/status/1981626305356386660

[harsh dove]

@butterfly_jihye <t:1761291502:d>

[empty halo]

definitely........ not 💀
I thought she made it clear that she prefers her stable job with ador and unfollowed mhj too

[wicked timber]

i feel like the company name is the least of our problems

[ashen charm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-cat-lick-black-black-cat-gif-7476706

[empty halo]

the tweet doesnt provide a source

[ashen charm]

that was her ulter ego nayeoin kim

[raven kelp]

mhdhh loops also shared it but i don't know where they got it from

[red thorn]

Watermark of the news outlet at bottom right

[empty halo]

honestly idgaf about nayeon kim. as long as they get their old choreographers and producers back its good. mhj can handle and hire good artists for graphics and visual direction

[empty halo]

oh

[wicked timber]

what was the address of the building?

[empty halo]

is newstop reliable tho

[pseudo heath]

https://www.newstopkorea.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=40557

[empty halo]

403 forbidden

[pseudo heath]

Oh

[empty halo]

[hollow sorrel]

from the corporate registration these are the business purposes:

1. Management agency business for celebrities (singers, writers, actors, models, etc.)
2. Music production, planning, and distribution business
3. Entertainment management business
4. Record production and manufacturing business
5. License business for character products and intellectual property rights
6. Performance planning, video/visual content production, distribution, and export business
7. Broadcasting program production and supply business
8. Musical instrument, audio equipment, and content development, production, distribution, and consulting business
9. Clothing manufacturing and sales business
10. Publishing and distribution business
11. Beverage and food manufacturing and sales business
12. Food and beverage retail business
13. Advertising and public relations business
14. General lodging and accommodation business
15. Urban development, construction, and related services
16. Travel agency and related booking services

[timber shell]

is it confirmed cuz i can't find mhj's agency named OOAK in any sites

[buoyant hamlet]

seems like a leak?

[pseudo heath]

I got no clue, maybe give it some time before checking again seeing as the news recently came out

[timber shell]

oh then alr, i hope that is good sign for all

[hollow sorrel]

not a leak, if you register a business the notice is published on different websites so probably economic journalists found it??

[buoyant hamlet]

wondering if this leak is from hybes intel, and if so what they are covering up or getting out of this

[waxen musk]

I really wonder what NJZ's plans were after March because they obviously werent expecting the injunction. Was this always the plan to join a new MHJ label and it take months and months to get to this point that were at now?

[wicked timber]

could be that her team leaked intentionally

[empty halo]

its clearly not a leak they found the registration

[wicked timber]

but how did they connect it to mhj?

[empty halo]

who cares

[buoyant hamlet]

i guess not a leak but the sudden media attention

it said it was registered oct 16

[upbeat stream]

It's impossible to hide a company registration. Maybe it's made public only a few days later in Korea? Idk

[waxen musk]

I do think any establishment of a new company is going to cause a lot of delay in terms of what you come to expect. So be prepared for that I guess.

[upbeat stream]

I've always wanted a new label or BANA. After what they went through at hybe, how can they trust anybody? So I would be quite happy with this, even if it means they become like an indie artist

[wicked timber]

hybe gonna sabotage that small company in any turn btw

[upbeat stream]

Honestly that's fine for me. Just seeing their livestreams or instagram is enough. They can take as long as they want to release music

[craggy skiff]

agree. some opinion about join an existing label but I doubt could it be end up like hybe?
new label with mhj full control is the best choice

[wicked timber]

question, if newjeans leaves ador, wont hybe just delete all their contents, like yt videos, sns accs

[upbeat stream]

Artists have managed just fine with their own label in the past, most notably Beast/Highlight. NJZ is bigger, so I don't think it would be a problem.

[empty halo]

absolutely not it's just gonna go inactive and stay as it is

it'll be abandoned

[wicked timber]

i assume they gonna be mad salty after 30th

[empty halo]

unless they somehow manage to reclaim their accounts? idk if thats possible or if theyd even be interested in doing that

they already set up different accounts across social media as NJZ

[craggy skiff]

you wont get jeans zine+ anymore

[craggy skiff]

if they could claim back newjeans brand. but it will be a long run

[wicked timber]

ador scraping the bottom of the barrel is never not funny

[empty halo]

they want their name back but I dont think theyre interested in the accounts as much. we'll see

I mean they already garnered 4 million + followers on a new acc on instagram in just a few months

[waxen musk]

I wonder how much money the girls and their parents have and if they'd invest in this company.

Obviously that number will change if there are fees due to old contract.

[waxen musk]

They will have the IP for as long as they have it (until NJZ win it back years from now) so they might as well keep it up just to get some extra pennies. At that point there would be a full boycot though.

[empty halo]

waiting on a post or story by mhj

[wicked timber]

their families dont seem extremely rich from the videos we've seen

[empty halo]

if youre a trainee at a big4 company, youre probably well off

[buoyant hamlet]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xkfoF9GVmtH5V7bJ8?g_st=ipc

[hollow sorrel]

imagine ooak is not even her company just some random nugu kpop company

[waxen musk]

I mean the parents for the minor members technically handle the money. Even if it isn't "theirs" it is due to laws.

[empty halo]

didnt minji spend time in canada as an international student? hasnt hyein been a model since she was a child?

[wicked timber]

the legal fees scare me though

[waxen musk]

I kind of worry how easy it is for a registered address for something so sensitive like this to be available, for security reasons.

[red thorn]

Mentally prepared for that kind of prank

[waxen musk]

Yeah I'm still not completely celebrating yet but super excited at the possibility. Need proper confirmation.

[empty halo]

why is korea so sad looking

[upbeat stream]

Tbh that's just standard everywhere

[waxen musk]

Doesn't look sad lol.

[empty halo]

its so drab and beige idk

[wicked timber]

seems like good area

[buoyant hamlet]

i mean everyone knows hybes address

[empty halo]

goes for all of seoul

[waxen musk]

I know it's unavoidable. But I literally watched Perfec Blue the other day so security is TOP of my mind.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/RunforNJZ/status/1981621260900794550

RunNieZ (@RunforNJZ)

아니 난 이게 웃겼음ㅋㅋ
먹는물 판매업
심박수 라벨 붙여서 생수 팔아줘ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

X · Oct 24, 2025, 7:18 AM

[empty halo]

theyll obviously hire security and wont let anyone just enter into the building

[upbeat stream]

It's in Sinsa-dong, Gangnam, so prime business and entertainment area

[waxen musk]

Yep. Expensive area.

Is it near the studio they practiced in in Jan-March?

I know there are a bunch of dance studios just regular people can pay for in that area.

[hollow sorrel]

its different from the pictures everyone is posting on twitter, but it was 7 years ago so maybe they just renovated it

[waxen musk]

It's still under construction (at least internally)

[cinder narwhal]

drinking water sales business?
we getting mhj bathwater guys

[waxen musk]

The proper translation was posted above. It's not just water. It's food and drinks lol.

[cinder narwhal]

so bathwater and ****

[waxen musk]

Buy it and throw it at Hybe stans, they'll melt like the wicked witch

[wind monolith]

can i get a quick recap i dont wanna go thru 400 messeges 😭

[waxen musk]

New company set up by MHJ (assumed based on reports, not yet confirmed)

[wind monolith]

thank u🫡

[empty halo]

mhj has reportedly opened a new agency called OOAK (one of a kind) with an office in Sinsa-Dong, Gangnam. no confirmation from her side. just multiple media reports

[waxen musk]

But yeah multiple sources confirming it I kinda don't see it being false.

[hollow sorrel]

we should watch out for her instagram stories this week, but didn't she post an album with the name "Revival" a few weeks ago??

[wind monolith]

i use to be so active before 🙁 and then i had to take some time off and just focus on studying cuz i was genuinely losing my mind over this stuff

[cinder narwhal]

good call

[buoyant hamlet]

yeah seems like it. only a 7 min drive from hybe

[waxen musk]

Good choice. We have lost our minds.

[heady gate]

Just one announcement from MHJ, this chat is alive again. 😆

I saw this from Korean Herald

[upbeat stream]

I wonder what reddit is saying about this. Haven't checked out the megathread in ages

[waxen musk]

Bruh I misunderstood what you said and thought you said "THERE IS NOW JUST ONE ANNOUNCEMENT FROM MHJ, HERE IT IS FROM KOREAN HERALD"..............................

[heady gate]

lol

[waxen musk]

I saw the top three comments on it's own thread and it was predictable. One about her recent "losses" and how she's a harasser and covered up SH. One saying how the timing is suspicious (because of LSM comeback). Another was just a gif lol.

I refused to read more.

[pseudo heath]

Yeah a lot of people are saying she leaked it at the same time as lsf comeback lol, wether that was truly her intention idk

[waxen musk]

I actually think it might not be intentional leak. I know the judgement is probably being worked on right now but ANY little thing that could influence it negatively is detrimental.

It's best just to keep quiet about it and not let it influence anything. In my opinion.

[storm warren]

MHJ does not leak shit. she has firm representing her and if she wants announcement, she makes one. If it is any way intentional, it is probably HYBE trying to attach Oct 30 verdict to MHJ again

[mild mist]

It's probably completely incomprehensible
Par for the course really

[cinder narwhal]

https://fixupx.com/newjeans_loop/status/1981657849072882132

MHDHH Loops 🧸🦦🐶🐱🐹 (@newjeans_loop)

Min HeeJin IG update
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︀︀OOAF
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︀︀Only One Always Known

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FixupX · Oct 24, 2025, 9:43 AM

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/RunforNJZ/status/1981655803670180112

This feels like an article Haboong wrote because you can tell by the number of articles published.
If Min wrote it, it would’ve been at most 3 articles 😂

RunNieZ (@RunforNJZ)

이게 왜 하붕이가 낸 기사 같냐면 기사 난 건수를 보면 앎
민이 낸 거면 많이 내봐야 3개 났을거야😂

X · Oct 24, 2025, 9:35 AM

[cinder narwhal]

ignore the caption

[waxen musk]

HERE WE FUCKING GOOOOOO

[hollow sorrel]

omg

[waxen musk]

They got the words wrong lol

What did they say it was? I already forgot.
This is so much better.

[hollow sorrel]

the scribbles in the notes app is taking me out...

[storm warren]

not the doodles

[hushed whale]

she ran out of money to design the logo

[waxen musk]

Oh "one of a kind" yeah that was a bit lame. This is better because it's weirder.

[wicked timber]

so she did leak it?? or just embracing the news?

[hollow sorrel]

this is cute

[waxen musk]

wtf is that

[cinder narwhal]

toddlercore!

[waxen musk]

The third image looks like bum holes

[hollow sorrel]

ngl these look like spells her shaman made her draw...

[wicked timber]

could this me drawn by the girls
im reaching real hard

[wind monolith]

ai so its legit

[waxen musk]

Yep legit legit

[wind monolith]

now all we need is the 30th

[cinder narwhal]

she signed captain america!!! 🇺🇸

[waxen musk]

I can't tell if she's showing us early concept work because it's early or if this is all old.

[static oriole]

DUDE

she's kinda freaking me out. the symbolism is a little weird lol

[waxen musk]

explain?

[wicked timber]

the drawings scare u?

[hollow sorrel]

this is the best one for sure I love how the o o a k are all put together and it makes a fingerprint

well the k is missing but you get the point

[waxen musk]

OH SHIT yeah the letters! I didnt even notice. Genius.
It's not missing the K i can see it

[cinder narwhal]

it's not a thumbprint? 😭

[static oriole]

it's just looks esoteric ? it's almost like she's sharing sigils

[storm warren]

love it. budget but creative queen

[hushed whale]

this one cool

[waxen musk]

why am i getting chills.

[hollow sorrel]

wait what if in her stories she's showing a progress...

and in the end it will be an animation or something

[cinder narwhal]

bruuuuuh i see the vision

[waxen musk]

this is how she came up with bunnies and the light stick btw. she does this concept shit just doodling

[unborn arrow]

i like it

[static oriole]

yeah i think is kind of like her brainstorming

[waxen musk]

only thing is WHEN was this brainstorming done. recent or old

[cinder narwhal]

do you ever stop overthinking

[storm warren]

atee

[waxen musk]

i think you know the answer to that

[wicked timber]

LOL

[wind monolith]

i like this cuz it looks like a dove which is symbolic for freedom

[hollow sorrel]

yall I just realized something

[buoyant hamlet]

ok she is cookin

[wicked timber]

attention came on shuffle
im so hyped

[pseudo heath]

was thinking that too

https://tenor.com/view/mikasa-mikasa-ackerman-eren-jaeger-eren-ereh-gif-7904537984899923273

[buoyant hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-sussie-kpop-demon-hunters-yelling-aaah-gif-5233366795026964868

[waxen musk]

this symbolism been on her mind since november if you take this to mean what you imply

now we have to go back through her music recommendation stories to see if any other clues line up 🕵️

[hollow sorrel]

what does Only One Always Known mean though

[waxen musk]

i'm sure i can read a thousand interpretations into that

is it referring to the one door from ador?
one door to rule them all

[tawdry vessel]

Ellen becomes dove (crying)

[storm warren]

that she and NJZ live rent free in everyone's minds 24/7

[cinder narwhal]

The phrase “Only One Always Known” sounds poetic or symbolic, so its meaning depends a bit on the context — but here are the most common interpretations:

1. Literal interpretation:
   It could mean there is only one person (or thing) that has always been known — the single constant presence or truth in someone’s life.

2. Spiritual or philosophical meaning:
   It might suggest a single eternal being or truth that has always existed and been known — for example, God, the self, or love.

3. Emotional or romantic meaning:
   It could mean you are (or someone is) the only one I’ve always known — expressing deep familiarity or connection, like “you’ve always been the one for me.”

4. Abstract or artistic meaning:
   It might evoke the idea of uniqueness and permanence — something (or someone) that stands alone and has always been recognized or understood, even when

[hollow sorrel]

it has an instagram account too

and it follows MHJ

[unborn arrow]

oh i saw it wasn’t following anyone earlier

[wind monolith]

account was made in 2023

[hushed whale]

yea could be fake

[wind monolith]

name has been changed 6 times too

[wicked timber]

• ooak logo
• tree growth rings ~oak
• fingerprint ~ ppl have one of a kind finger print

i hate how creative she is, it pisses me off

[waxen musk]

new accounts or modified accounts are the easiest thing to do

[red thorn]

Come clean now
whoever made this account

[alpine sapphire]

So it is actually mjh's ..... is it a good news? Should we have high hopes?

[bronze talon]

i like this

[hushed whale]

oct 30

[pseudo heath]

I like this and the bird one

[hollow sorrel]

this reminds me of old ADOR please keep it coming...

[wicked timber]

bird ~ freedom
ugh

[raven kelp]

oooh i'm loving this

[alpine sapphire]

Is it possible that if njz have to pay termination fee, so the company which they will go maybe its(ooak) , what if they pay the fee and get the girls free

[waxen musk]

MHJ confirming she's establishing a new company. everything else is speculation.
I know my mind is going crazy though.
And you know how the girls feel about MHJ and MHJ's loyalty to the girls.
Decide what you want from there...
I'm so happy.

[raven kelp]

one of a kind my arse

[alpine sapphire]

Yeah I have high hope

[waxen musk]

She posted old cassette tape as a post before too. Seems she's been psoting inspriations for a lot of things.

[bronze talon]

like she always did

[alpine sapphire]

Idk my gut is saying 2026 is bunnies and newjeans year

[bronze talon]

most likely

[pseudo heath]

as soon as October 30th passes it will be their time

[raven kelp]

https://fixupx.com/_Pii_no_Pii_/status/1981661425044185194

ぴぃ (@_Pii_no_Pii_)

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FixupX · Oct 24, 2025, 9:57 AM

[red thorn]

Exactly

[pseudo heath]

Looks like a fingerprint ikywim

[raven kelp]

it does

[waxen musk]

it's a finger print made up with the letters o o a and k

[wicked timber]

she really is a genius when it comes to branding

[alpine sapphire]

Yayyy...

After days there is something new to talk about, it feels good

[waxen musk]

My worries are fading away. I hate it thought because it's premature to start feeling that way. But I just know everything will be OOAK in the end.

[hollow sorrel]

only one shareholder

[raven kelp]

oooh i like this one too

[hollow sorrel]

always known creative

[raven kelp]

she's crazy

[waxen musk]

so MHJ then?

[bronze talon]

cant wait to get even more creative works with mhj with no limits this time

[pseudo heath]

Yea feels like we've been rewarded

[alpine sapphire]

Fr

[waxen musk]

It just now feels like even after a loss next week that we have some idea of a plan of what could happen after. And if they win, then don't even need to worry about that. I'm not joking when I say everything feels like it'll be OK in the end.

[tawdry vessel]

nope keep expectations low

[waxen musk]

The only problem is of course expectations.

[hollow sorrel]

no one would set up a record label and rent out a building if they didn't have a plan B

[opaque flicker]

you reek of positivity

[wicked timber]

we r dooming ourselves but ANYWAY NJZ 2026

[tawdry vessel]

u saw me crash out in march nuh uh

[alpine sapphire]

Yes same I also feel like it's gonna be ok regardless of win or loss!

[opaque flicker]

[alpine sapphire]

Nah broooo i feel like if we all will start assuming good, good will happen!

[waxen musk]

another ig account ooakrecords lol. I don't believe any of them are real.

[alpine sapphire]

Dw know half of popularity will own ooak records

[waxen musk]

I know what this reminded me of: Pompompurin (iykyk)

[tawdry vessel]

its okay to be excited for the mhj news but still keep expectations low

[alpine sapphire]

When there will be a page we will know

[hollow sorrel]

I feel like the one with the full name is real no way someone took it in like 5 minutes, is private and only follows MHJ even if it was created in 2023 but we shall see

[waxen musk]

any domain registrations or stuff like that?

[hollow sorrel]

I checked I couldnt find anything with .kr

[opaque flicker]

you thinking of a dog's ass

[waxen musk]

EXACTLY

[opaque flicker]

bro said exactly 😭

[waxen musk]

i did see my dog do a shit 30 mins ago irl, too. so it's on my mind

[opaque flicker]

[hollow sorrel]

but it also looks like an oak tree’s rings tbh

[wicked timber]

cut from a different fabric 🎵 no1 is ready for njz at their best

[waxen musk]

ooak as in oak tree and it looks like a fingerprint with the letter O O A and K. I HATE HER CREATIVITY ITS UNFAIR

[alpine sapphire]

Lol

[red thorn]

The entry of the building
"Welcome to Ooakland"

[wicked timber]

i bet the girls are gonna be ooak shareholders

[waxen musk]

I don't see why not.

[hollow sorrel]

ok I should stop checking because anyone could be creating these 😭

[cinder narwhal]

why is ador website socials links pointing to a jrock band lol

[waxen musk]

what?

[cinder narwhal]

looks like nayeon sabotaged and dipped

[alpine sapphire]

It would be insane .
..

[waxen musk]

OMFG what the hell is this. I wonder if they even realised.

[red thorn]

What band

[silver warren]

So did you guys head the news

[cinder narwhal]

everynightdawns

[silver warren]

Or am I the one that’s late

[alpine sapphire]

Tbh I was listening to bit lullaby kinda off tunes before checking news and know suddenly I have switched to hip hop

[pseudo heath]

Its all coming together

[wicked timber]

it's at that point where it's annoying like how does she keep coming up with these

[alpine sapphire]

?

[waxen musk]

I do sense some sabotage lol. Like you can't accidentally link to something like that.

[hollow sorrel]

Is it just me but her doodles remind me of this?? And a few days later we got 3D modeled versions of these so what if tomorrow or in the next weeks she’s gonna post actual teasers like that?

[waxen musk]

YEEES

[hollow sorrel]

sorry for the sound I just screen recorded a random tiktok

[waxen musk]

I wonder what else has been cOOAKing.

[raven kelp]

i read that wrong

[wicked timber]

mfw im cooaking smthing

[pseudo heath]

jus thought of cocaine when he said it lol 😭

[empty halo]

I love the weird illustrations. This is great THIS IS AMAZING

[raven kelp]

can someone share ador website link

[empty halo]

Hopefully njz also goes in a weird experimental direction

Exciting :3

OOAK IS REAL

[hollow sorrel]

ador website rebranded to a HYBE auditions website I think

https://adoraudition.world/

the typo is taking me out

[cinder narwhal]

it was always like that except for nj releases

[empty halo]

looks the same

[hollow sorrel]

the name ooak grew on me so quickly

[empty halo]

seeing that logo w the bird that says OOAK records changed my mind completely

[empty halo]

its private + could be fake?

[pseudo heath]

Probably fake, id hold off on following any accounts till something gets announced

[wicked timber]

#trust the process

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/maruru2051/status/1981657271139766413

とん (@maruru2051)

이주혁　성형외과 전문의　2025.10.24

나는 아무리 생각해도 지금의 K pop이 좋은 방향으로 가고 있는 것같질 않다.

예술은 뮤지션, 즉 그 작품을 만들어내는 예술가가 중심에 있어야 한다. 그런데 케이팝은 자본이 중심에 있고 나머지는 전부 부수적인 자산 취급을...

X · Oct 24, 2025, 9:41 AM

[copper jetty]

Also i did botany on college... the tree rings are also like the tree's fingerprints. No tree has the same rings so it also ties up to the tree's or one's identities.

She's so creative wth

[waxen musk]

1tokki posted translation. Reading now.

[cerulean lake]

i think it’s best to keep it that way. people on that thread are literally deranged..and i usually don’t say that abt others

[waxen musk]

My new headphones I got on Tuesday have wood on the side with rings, IT WAS A SIGN.

[cinder narwhal]

*x https://x.com/hahagatung/status/1981662336885948886

[harsh dove]

@hahagatung <t:1761300093:d>

[buoyant hamlet]

i wonder how “one of a kind” somehow got out

[storm warren]

bc thats most common assumption

[empty halo]

if ador loses the lawsuit or whenever the girls leave the company, will they still recieve revenue from the streams? if not im gonna start pirating the songs

[empty halo]

the media probably saw that she registered the name of the agency as OOAK and assumed the most common phrase it could be an acronym for

[copper jetty]

I think they would still receive revenues since they're credited. Don't quote me on this though since I'm not sure... or if even Ador would pay them after the 30th.

I wonder though if there's any investors in the new company. Idk if hybe would make an issue of the investors... for sure they'll try to sabotage this since it's a small company and they'll have more influence...

[viscid prism]

The standard contract says the label must continue to pay their artist, unless there's a supplementary agreement stating otherwise

[hollow sorrel]

I think only after the lawsuit results will we find out about investors, but NewJeans are like crazy in demand all of their songs are popular and chart well so I can only imagine there will be a lot of investors + MHJ probably knows people too

[empty halo]

i see

[empty halo]

great! idk if ill continue streaming but for the people that do, at least the girls will get revenue

[red thorn]

I believe once they out of contract, the income related to past products would be royalties from songs credit

[wicked timber]

we're so back it's unreal

[waxen musk]

The "we're so back", "we're so doomed" cycle dictates what comes next.

[empty halo]

min heejin supplying us with our tokkium

dont overdose

[waxen musk]

Let's just hope the "we're so doomed" comes before the 30th, not on the 30th.

[wicked timber]

that means we need a doom news before the verdict

[copper current]

Can someone list out the possibilites of the outcome? why everyone is so optimistic? what if the girls lost and the contract still remains? can they work with mhj. I just don't want to be disaapointed again like the injunction. Hybe can spoil the judges

[fathom onyx]

here's my idea of what can happen (I'm not an expert lol):

1. they win (they're free to make new music as NJZ again, they likely won't get the name NewJeans back)
2. they pay a fine
3. they're actually "forced" to stay w ador (so they prob do nothing for the remainder of the contract)

[empty halo]

the chances of foul play in the case are pretty low. if the girls lose it was most probably the judge's decision

[short laurel]

Whats ooak ig?

[empty halo]

and even if they lose they can pay a penalty fee and leave, they cant be forced to stay

[empty halo]

no idea
people are speculating that it's @ooakrecords (a new private account) but it could be fake

[fathom onyx]

yea I really hope so! idk too much about korean law

[short laurel]

Ohk

[empty halo]

I cant read it as okay 😭 i keep on reading it as oak

[empty halo]

looks like there's a private twitter acc w the same username that was opened in October 2025 too hmmmm

[short laurel]

Found it.

[wicked timber]

she's so crazy

[ivory stone]

She's so genius

[empty halo]

the amount of fake accounts that have already popped up on instagram lawd

[red thorn]

It would be more simple for the number 2
If Ador's intent for the court is to seek penalty for unilaterally termination rather than for contract termination validation

[short laurel]

3rd one will nvr happen. No one can force others where u work.
Even if judge give unreasonable amount.

[tawdry vessel]

3 is slavery and if that somehow happens im never gonna forgive sk

[empty halo]

yeah the girls being forced to stay under ador till 2029 w no way out is not happening

refreshing mhj's page constantly to get an account for ooak sjdnjsj

[old cypress]

they're having a gotcha moment "mhj screwed njz her career continues while njz is stuck in limbo" type shit

[wicked timber]

stop record play rewind
idk why does this make me emotional lmao

[red thorn]

Antis gonna be like "pro japan"

[short laurel]

Wow ooak now seems genius

[short laurel]

"Mhj is the reason lfsm cb not doing good" pooped up 💀

[old cypress]

lol she cooked

[empty halo]

this EATS

i take back everything i said about the name

[old cypress]

I saw "she hates sakura", this subreddit is doomed

[empty halo]

where did this narrative of her hating specifically sakura come from?

[wicked timber]

or is it play record stop rewind
im not boomer enough for this

[old cypress]

from the beginning, media said that mhj didn't want kkura bc she was too old

it was before her presscon

[empty halo]

didnt want kkura in.... newjeans??

[old cypress]

yeah

[empty halo]

interesting

i dont think she'd work in newjeans concept at all so i dont see how thats offensive but okay

you could say newjeans wouldnt work in lesserafims concept and that theyre too young for it, tokkis wouldnt be offended 💀

[old cypress]

no the whole thing was just fake news

[empty halo]

obviously

[old cypress]

sakura and chaewon were brought in for a different group

[empty halo]

but even then i dont think thats particularly offensive

[short laurel]

She was hated on every little bs be4 her press con by media

[wicked timber]

it doesnt matter she soaks it all up
isnt she like an entp. good luck hating, it just makes her stronger

[trim nebula]

MHJ HAS ESTABLISHED A NEW ENTERTAINMENT AGENCY OH THEY ARE READY

[ashen charm]

why does it seem like njz might get new color represents or am i just over thinking

[wicked timber]

i wonder if they are going to keep the lightstick design
the shape cannot be trademarked

[empty halo]

why would they get new colours

[empty halo]

the binky bong is so goated noo 😭 i hope they do

[ashen charm]

binky bong will be ooak coded

[empty halo]

i mean idk honestly. maybe theyre shedding everything old and going completely new. new label, new name, new lightstick, i can see it

[short laurel]

Newjeans song!

[ashen charm]

wait i just relized all new njz merch will have ooak on them instead of adork or hybe labels

[vocal sable]

yesss i can see this happening and like the girls said before the concept (this mightve just been exclusively for pitstop) isnt really the girl next door vibe

[wicked timber]

can someone be a doomer plz i will literally cry if they lose on the 30th

[vocal sable]

so if they lose on the 30th there isnt any possible way they can leave until the contracts over?

[wicked timber]

they can leave for a price

[empty halo]

yeah, im excited for more experimental vibes

[ashen charm]

any leaks yet?

[empty halo]

im hoping not for girl crush or futuristic but something weirder and more niche

[vocal sable]

yess but even if it was something like get up im happy with that

[wicked timber]

f(x)

[vocal sable]

lets be real anything they make is gonna be a banger if frnk and 250 produce it

[empty halo]

yes

[empty halo]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

need njz to reheat fx nachos

[old cypress]

They pay the penalty but I'm not sure how long it'll take since I assume they'll ask the judge to set a lower penalty

[copper current]

ok, I hope they will just pay and leave, they can earn during the 4 years while they are still peak

[old cypress]

they're not gonna stay so they'll probably pay and leave (if they lose the lawsuit)

unless the amount is completely absurd

[spring fox]

bunnies lets chip in!

[wicked timber]

1 word from njz and give us 5 minutes

[red thorn]

I believe that's form of extended ruling, since the lawsuit is not about fine/penalty bc termination contract, but only for validation of termination contract, there's chance that ruling won't extend beyond that, unless the judge care and see the future situation and decide to resolve the dispute once for all in this court

[ashen charm]

not seeing this from them will hurt ngl

binky bong you will be missed

[wicked timber]

they can keep it, the shape is not trademarked

[empty halo]

so theyll be allowed to sell binky bongs too?

[ashen charm]

nah i dobut it unless they make it at ooak

but they cant stop ppl from bring it to shows

[empty halo]

yeah thats obvious im just wondering if theyll be allowed to produce their own binky bongs and sell them at ooak

[frozen granite]

Omg just woke up

[empty halo]

OOAK IS REAL

[ashen charm]

one way to find out

[frozen granite]

Just saw mhj’s story … so it’s confirmed …

[ashen charm]

newjeans ate bernice so ooak bird can fly

[frozen granite]

Can’t believe BSH felt so threatened & bitter MHJ had to create her own agency

[wicked timber]

any1 has the link for the KIPRIS database?

[upbeat stream]

https://www.kipris.or.kr/khome/search/searchResult.do?tab=trademark

[bronze talon]

btw
werent a lot of people (i think including me) talking about that mhj should just leave ador and make a own label/agency months ago already?
kinda cool it happened

[vale grove]

Didn't think it would actually happen but so glad it did

[trim nebula]

imagine girls doing some silly tiktok trend on 30th of october like "oookay guys we're back, did you miss us? cause we missed you."

[vale grove]

Won't they do a proper release of pitstop or is that just gonna be lost media forever lol

[copper jetty]

Imagine them going on a live after they win (if they do..)

[vale grove]

I really hope not cause we deserve to hear the studio version after all this trouble lol

[trim nebula]

i think i'll cry out of happiness

[empty halo]

new label was so obvious to me. i feel like its become a bit of a trend in kpop for idols to create their own labels or join freshly made new labels over singing to pre-established labels and its a good trend. it gives them more control and flexibility over their own activities

[copper jetty]

Also after what hybe did to them ngl i wouldn't want them in a big label.

[empty halo]

itll be a single/pre-release probably. i hope the actual album is more experimental : p

[vale grove]

Ahhh yes hopefully!

[empty halo]

all members of blackpink, loossemble, fromis, wendy, etc etc

[wicked timber]

nvm. the evil company dared to trademark it

[bronze talon]

yep actually true but it wasnt rly 100% sure to me idk

[frozen granite]

I already imaging them giggling/smiling like this -> 🤭

[empty halo]

https://tenor.com/view/lewissaunderson38-lewissaunderson-cry-crying-cry-meme-gif-11499408157122608476

[pseudo heath]

studio version of pitstop would be great

[wicked timber]

it's joever

[empty halo]

it probably was old ador that trademarked it, i mean obviously u dont want people selling rip offs

[wicked timber]

it's still sad, cuz it was so newjeans

[vocal sable]

its so annoying that even if newjeans win they cant ever perform newjeans songs

[empty halo]

lets hope they get their brand back

[stone grotto]

It’s sad they won’t be able to perform their old songs anymore but at least they’ll be free to make more

Jaejoong sang mirotic 10+ years later after leaving SM

[empty halo]

they can cover their old songs no?

[red thorn]

Legally they still can, pay the license to perform
Well unless somehow there's ban from hybe but not sure how plausible is that, bc there are other rights holders in songs

[wicked timber]

njz can technically cover newjeans

[ashen charm]

Even after leaving ador will njz still get paid for the songs or no

[storm warren]

they already left and get paid regardless

[red thorn]

The standard is no contract=no share revenue
Royalty from songs credit is separate

[short laurel]

they will get paid.

[ashen charm]

Becuase preforming covers of there old songs will give them infinite money glitch

[empty halo]

ador still considers them an artist under them. thats the whole point of the lawsuit 😭

[short laurel]

these royalties pays very little anyways

[fathom onyx]

for the songs they have written, yes!
I think Hyein would be the only one getting nothing from this

[storm warren]

they are delusional

[fathom onyx]

when it comes to official releases they would all still be getting paid some amount, cuz they're all performers on all songs

[empty halo]

unfortunately whether theyre deluded or not depends on the court 💔

[storm warren]

https://x.com/shamanjz/status/1981716849600364669

Shamanz MHDHH (@shamanjz)

So accdg to Naver Maps, the bldg isn't fully finished yet? (Unless it's not updated). But it seems to be at a residential/apartment bldg area(narrow street). Easier to secure and safer hopefully and they can do their laundry outside see the awm on the left💀

X · Oct 24, 2025, 1:38 PM

[empty halo]

its from august 2025

written on the bottom

[short laurel]

topstar article said building is still under construction. outside looks to be done, probably inside work remaining.

[wicked timber]

it's okay, it's not east europe, they will be done in a month time

[stone grotto]

Either MHJ is confident NJZ is gonna win or she secured enough investment to break them out of contract jail

[storm warren]

is the pic from article more recent?

[storm warren]

bet mhj gonna hand pick every single furniture and material

[storm warren]

nobody knows how njz case ends up tbh. either way, she has to start something

[short laurel]

months. not a month. now a days they build buildings fast and complete interior slowly. it's probably under way for quite some time so should be done soon considering they are announcing companies going to work in there.

[short laurel]

do we know she owns the building or just an office space there. whatever the one she getting, she 100% designing it her way.

[storm warren]

prob rented

[copper jetty]

I'm excited... this gave me tokkium

[short laurel]

yup rented. she won't be forced to make horrible office space that bang made her design in hybe that employees hate so much.

[storm warren]

i hope she makes it quirky like her home

[short laurel]

she has to think of her employees, it isn't just her personal space

[copper jetty]

*x https://x.com/ooak____/status/1981676149668495831?t=VNRLqoXSla-J0CszWY0jhg&s=19 -c

[harsh dove]

@ooak____ <t:1761303386:d>

MHJ showed more creativity on a notepad than HYBE did in the last 2 years

[copper jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/haerin-newjeans-newjeans-haerin-kang-haerin-giggle-gif-7036439899843613134

[storm warren]

yeah but still can incorporate. nowadays comfortable and quirky interior designs are more trendy than rigid and strictly office looking

[short laurel]

ooh yea. 100%.

[storm warren]

regardless excited to see how it turns out and will be even happier if njz manages to join without too much struggle

[knotty patrol]

A lot of people think that the @ooak_records account on insta is real but its not

Its my account i sniped the name

[fathom onyx]

🤯

[knotty patrol]

I got ooak_records on x too

[opaque flicker]

thanks for sharing

[knotty patrol]

Yea just a heads up

My discord username is: njz_official too

[pseudo heath]

my discord username is speedwagon07

[ashen charm]

So birdnice and bernice LOL

[copper jetty]

Why??

[knotty patrol]

Its either i take it or some hater gets it and abuses it

[raven kelp]

ooak so loud almost forgot we're on D-5

[wicked timber]

https://x.com/butterfly_jihye/status/1981734253323764040

ℰ𝓊𝒶𝓁𝓁𝒶 🦋 (@butterfly_jihye)

Choi Yumi liked a post about MHJ agency launch

X · Oct 24, 2025, 2:47 PM

[copper jetty]

True

[knotty patrol]

If she announced the name b4 securing the insta name it prob means she didnt want it anyways so i might as well

[wicked timber]

1 thing for sure olens is in the bag
i have so much respect for that company to stick by them

[wise basin]

this day’s actually unreal

[wicked timber]

someone said it's not only tree, fingerprint but also vinyl related

[empty halo]

actually i saw someone mention it can be seen as the name of the label, like the circles are the O's and theres a small A. the K on the bottom left