NJZ Updates and Discussion

[harsh dove]

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[toxic trail]

I'm watching a jasmin video right now...

She's rlly against newjeans honestly

[upbeat stream]

They are pro-newjeans but this is a dumb take. Mediation is standard in most civil cases as far as I know, wouldn't call it a surprising move

[waxen musk]

Seeing how very old things keep coming up requiring people to once again debunk them, I am predicting the same will happen with things such as the "ignore her" incident even well past a favourable judgement. I wish it was possible for everybody to move on after that point, but I'm wishing for too much.

I'm wondering if Ador still tries to do things like keeping up with YouTube uploads, considering now they do not have any more times they need to pretend they care for an upcoming court hearing. I'm hoping it's over now.

[copper current]

I hate seeing snake Ador pretending to be nice, make me want to barf.

[pulsar wasp]

I understand it appears they’re tryna “be nice” for the court. But I see it as them desperate to keep their jobs as they know it.

[waxen musk]

If they want to keep their jobs they should focus on their upcoming boy group.

Not that I want them to bring on boys into this nightmare.

[feral tapir]

if they want to keep their jobs they should've done it correctly since the beginning and none of that would've happened

[waxen musk]

That too. Sometimes it's so obvious that it's easy to overlook.

And again they've had every chance to listen to the girls and make it a place they want to work, and then they'll rake in the money again. I make it sound so simple.

I do wonder what the confidence level is at within Ador. Because at the end of the day, they can't force the girls to come back even if Ador does win.

It's why when I see recognisable employees still working inside that company, I question what they think will happen.

(I say that without even assuming why they chose to or had to stay.)

[feral tapir]

i guess it's all about money ngl

[short laurel]

Unfortunately it'll keep come back as long as hanni is active in the entertainment industry. Mostly by haters so very less. Whats important is for ppl to stop giving haters attention

[cerulean lake]

more like ego and pride tbh bc if they had kept nwjns alone, they probably would’ve been raking in sm more money now.

bad people AND bad businessmen. like how chopped can you be + insecure of one lady

[feral tapir]

ego + money lowkey worst combo ever

turns into narcissism

often*

[old cypress]

there's a lot of reaching here. The average ador employee has no control over what the company decides to do. The orders come from bang pd and his minions

[cerulean lake]

yah we’re mainly talking abt him and his lapdogs.

[feral tapir]

yeah

[old cypress]

And even if some of them decided to stay, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're betraying newjeans. They have to earn their living somehow and it's still possible that they're staying around until njz opens their own company

[cerulean lake]

all of this spiraling out of control bc she sent an internal complaint that was valid 🫩👎

[feral tapir]

ofc

[warm hollow]

so from what I’ve gathered, an employee filed a complaint from hybe or ador, and she is receiving hate online bc of it?

[short laurel]

???

[warm hollow]

im a bit confused

[cerulean lake]

? if ur talking abt my comment, i meant mhj sending in an internal complaint abt the whole plagiarism issue and thats when they decided to launch an audit against her

tho im pretty sure they were plotting it already bc she was beefing w/ bsh since before nwjns debuted

[short laurel]

some old ador employees still working at ador. and toxic tokkies acting like army by hating on them.

[feral tapir]

imma be honest i don't understand a single thing since the beginning i just want them in jail💔

[warm hollow]

oh ok

didn’t know toxic and bunnies would be on the same sentence 🥀🫩

[old cypress]

this is kpop

[short laurel]

but they are just regular employees. can't blame them. and in kpop every fandom is toxic.

[cerulean lake]

yeah it’s a lot and it’s even worse when people just spew things w/o even knowing abt the stuff.

sm misinfo online and that’s probably why we haven’t seen hanni in a long time 💔 probably the most targeted in terms of misinfo

[short laurel]

actually every decently big fandom in everything aroudn the world has toxic fans.

[feral tapir]

people be hating but wait until they end up in that situation

[warm hollow]

literally losing hope 💔💔💔 why are they taking so long

[feral tapir]

justice be like🥀

[cerulean lake]

ik they would be crying if their oppars were involved

screw all the ones laughing at nwjns now

[short laurel]

i personally hate bsh for a long time cuz of his interviews and how the fandom coddle his bs.

[feral tapir]

i feel bad for buying albums now cus i know the money is going to that hoe

[warm hollow]

oh people are dragging her on twitter and everywhere else

[short laurel]

atleast girls still getting royalties from them. and dw albums has very little profit margin. almost nothing.

[feral tapir]

say less😼

[cerulean lake]

bsh acting like he came from no money in terms of his company but in reality, he was born rich (and w/ connections) w/ his dad being a higher up gov official smh

[short laurel]

his family. not just dad

[feral tapir]

ah then no wonder why he's still not in jail

[cerulean lake]

wished jyp dropped his ass and never helped him develop his music career

[feral tapir]

why is it always assholes becoming rich and successful

[short laurel]

i m waiting for when hybe's top company status will be dropped. head there changed now so they should take action.

[cerulean lake]

broski had a plagiarism issue before too

[old cypress]

that's not true (about albums)

[short laurel]

cuz that's how the world is. most rich people are rich through really dark stuff.

[warm hollow]

i hate how money can save their asses, just like that p diddy case

[feral tapir]

i know🥀

[short laurel]

it is true. main income are from cf's and stuff. albums mostly for numbers to show popularity to get cf's and stuff. well one of the matrics. and albums itself had very low profit margin.

[cerulean lake]

sad bc i would see old vids and notice how hanni was like super well liked before and now everyone’s just trying to put words in her mouth and act like she’s the biggest bully in the world 🫩

[old cypress]

no it's not. Costs are fixed, meaning that the costs are same whether you sell 100 albums or 1M albums. Once you earn enough to pay back the costs, every album sold is full profit.

[warm hollow]

the drastic change. they’re blaming her and sending her death threats like she was the one hating on illit and le sserafim.. ☹️

as if she had initiated all that hatred in the first place, she spoke about a MANAGER, not the poor members.

[old cypress]

she's still super well liked, you just need to clean up your timeline

[short laurel]

1st time i heard this. my info mostly comes from SM though and i m confident in my info.

[feral tapir]

in a way, illegal stuff are legal if you just pay, that's what rich ppl do

[old cypress]

use common sense... Do idols film a new mv and make new songs everytime they sell an album? If they sell 1M albums do they film 1M mvs? lol

[short laurel]

u do know each album cost money to make expecially with all the extra's kpop have in albums. and if u ignore intl shippign cost and stuff. albums are cheap. how much can they earn out of that.

[cerulean lake]

yeah but i’ll probably try to be off kpop related content for the next few months until oct bc i don’t wanna see hate vids on my feed

but yeah, i just hope they can win this upcoming case bc the injunction literally sent sm hate against them (smth i wouldn’t wish on any group) and also caused the hybe glazers to awaken even more

[short laurel]

they have to divide income for all the royalties too. how much profit is left for company and idols after that

[cerulean lake]

AND i wish they would win so i could envision seeing those reddit losers lose their smug faces 😭.

grown ass adults acting like they’re so smart and literally wishing for the downfall of young girls rightfully going against a corrupt conglomerate. plus they claim to hate nwjns but literally follow their every move to scrutinize them

[old cypress]

the raw materials are mostly paper and the CD itself so it's prob a few dollars per album. def not $10 lol. Anyway if you look at earning reports you can see companies make quite a lot from album sales

which is why they push forward as many comebacks as possible instead of doing full albums

[short laurel]

i've onyl properly looked at SM's earning report. and albums have always been on relatively lower side. also all the CB's is not always about albums but to keep pushing brands. main income is always CF's tours and merch for companies nad idols.

[old cypress]

I almost never see hate vids on my feed. It's a matter of how you feed the algo

[cerulean lake]

i wonder if they evenly split cf ad income or not. like among the members

[old cypress]

they usually do 50/50 company/idols for cfs

[short laurel]

it's according to contract they signed.

[warm hollow]

oh they’re js suckers for them

[cerulean lake]

true. my tiktok feed has gotten better but never searching up nwjns on yt or reddit ever

hm so like if one member was more popular than the other members and had more cfs, do they still give some of that cf money to the other members?

ik it happened with suzy and missA and like seolhyun w/ AOA where they would get so many single ads for themselves and help pay the other members w/ their cf income

[short laurel]

only members doing the CF should get the cut.

[snow furnace]

just don't go to the general kpop community like on facebook or any platform
I once accidentally visited it, just one scroll and it was really toxic

[warm hollow]

twitter and reddit's are the worst

[snow furnace]

like how things like this are not taken care of by the community admin.

If i like an idol group then i just join that group's community specifically, like this server, so far this server is the safest place for me as a nj fans.

[short laurel]

ooh apparently it's the case with many older groups in their early days. but later on changed to individual getting cuts from CF with no more sharing.

[vale grove]

Yeah most K-pop spaces that are just K-pop in general are pretty toxic

[old cypress]

once again, this is not true as many groups still split their income equally. Like newjeans

[cerulean lake]

yeah i deleted twt and reddit from my home screen but unfortunately got looped back in after hearing abt bsh’s fraud story so im trying to go back to not going on there.

i was also pretty absent from this server for a while and ill probably go back to not going on for a while bc im scared of seeing bad things 🫩

[cerulean lake]

i think they mean if like one member got their own individual ad. like let’s say hanni gets an ad by herself without the other members, would that cf income be split w the others or just her

[old cypress]

with the others

[upbeat stream]

The good thing about reddit is that you only see the subreddits you follow. I unfollowed most kpop communities and now my home feed is ok

[old cypress]

it's usually this way until idols renegotiate their contracts

[upbeat stream]

While on other platforms, no matter how much you block, you'll always see them

[short laurel]

???????? did u read what i said? i never said newer groups not do this. i only said many older groups did in early days and changed it later.

[old cypress]

ok I misread your message, sorry

[short laurel]

and it's not apply to every idol. like pretty sure BP since debut only individual gets cut if only individual doing the CF. so it's not universal thing

[old cypress]

I never said it's an universal thing, I said 'usually'

[short laurel]

ohk

anyways i don't think we know how it was with newjeans

[old cypress]

ador revealed how much the members earned each, they said each member got 3.75m usd

that was one of the arguments during the injunction hearing

[short laurel]

ooh. i forgot about that one.

[upbeat stream]

I would be surprised if the post-izone groups have equal sharing but yeah, most others likely do

[old cypress]

yeah that's fair since these idols are established

[waxen musk]

1tokki reposting excerpts from MHJ's talks and other people talking about the resourcefulness of everything during debut, it just makes me mad how misunderstood MHJ is, especially for Tokkis who so often say they don't quite trust her.

I don't think there are any Tokkis out there misunderstanding the girls themselves, so I don't really worry about that. But the same can't be said about MHJ.

[modest sluice]

there are always trashy individuals like that.
the reason is jealousy and weak logic.
people like that should just be blocked quickly.
we need to build a solid fanbase.
with the current garbage legal system in korea, we have a lot to do when the members move elsewhere.

[waxen musk]

I don't think it's all just terrible people who continue to misunderstand MHJ, those people I want to just ignore. It's actual Tokkis, ones who claim to support the girls, that have just heard the same misinformation over and over ever since NewJeans' debut that frustrate me.

Can you clarify what you meant by "we have a lot to do when the members move elsewhere"?

[waxen musk]

Your perspective on my "first question" (I didn't ask a question) is not really something I can agree on at all when it comes to Tokkis. There's a big difference between haters who hate both the girls and MHJ--who I wouldn't call Tokkis--versus Tokkis who don't hate the girls and may not necessarily hate MHJ, but I just think they misunderstand and have distrust and discomfort towards her. I also think you might be missing my point so I had to repeat myself.

[modest sluice]

Ok, I don’t understand what you’re saying, just blocking all those type 1/2 Tokkis is ok

[waxen musk]

I don't think we understand each other.

[bronze talon]

i wouldnt call tokkis haters or not real tokkis who dont trsut mhj or like her at all. they are informed with the wrong info for a lot of time and dont dig into this topic like we do (or a lot other people)

[waxen musk]

Did you delete a message, watthe? Now my messages make even less sense.

[bronze talon]

how would i be able to delete one of your messages lol

[waxen musk]

Oh my god I need to get out of here nobody understands anything I’m saying. Plus it doesn’t help that I can’t understand anyone either. Help.

[modest sluice]

=))

[waxen musk]

Nah it’s all good I understand what meista meant after some edits. But meista, I was saying the user “watthe” deleted a message themselves which used to be in between the two paragraphs I wrote above. 👍 We all understanding each other now?

[bronze talon]

yea sometimes my sentences arent sentencing mb lole

[waxen musk]

It’s ok. Makes sense now.

[modest sluice]

how old are you ash?

[waxen musk]

I also edit my paragraphs like 10 times to try to make myself understood properly only to have the point entirely missed. My age has nothing to do with anything.

[modest sluice]

my answer is quite difficult and complicated — only adults can really understand it, so I’ll leave it up for just a short while.

[waxen musk]

I saw that.

[tawdry vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-aksuali-veli-vel-nerd-nerd-emoji-gif-11908435316515627035

[vale grove]

hi guys

[stable escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-haerin-embed-fail-gif-9903412419421438698

[vale grove]

Okay so have we gotten any updates as of recent ?? Pretty sure no right?

[waxen musk]

I doubt we'll get updates until August 14 and even then the mediation will happen in private and I think it's unlikely any mediation will be happen. So maybe we won't even hear how that goes.

As for BSH and Hybe downfall news, maybe there'll be a lot happening soon.

[vale grove]

So check back in October is what I’m assuming?

[waxen musk]

Depends what you're interested in. If all you care about is the girls then yeah, pretty much!

[vale grove]

Got it, thank u my friend!! I think I’ll check in periodically in case any big news comes out. But hybe downfall doesn’t concern me too much, unless the girls are made to go back

[waxen musk]

The won't be made to go back. Or if they will, they'll refuse.

[vale grove]

From my understanding, hybe and njz were given one more chance to work this out between themselves but njz said no right?

[vale grove]

Right right I thought so! They are firm in their stance, it’s too far gone.

[waxen musk]

The mediation is on August 14. So that "one last chance" hasn't happened yet for them to say "no".

[vale grove]

Ahhhh yes thank you, mediation that’s what I was looking for. Im assuming they will say no, anyways. So I’ll check back august 14th, then at the end of October !!!

[clear hill]

Omg her allegations are so stupid. Ppl keep saying she groomed taemin and said that she wanted him to not work out for a photoshoot bc she wanted him to a have a girlish figure, ppl saying she kept making red velvet do Lolita concepts, called Minji fat and said she looked better as a 14 year old and a bunch of other shit.i tried searching it but I couldn’t find a single source.

[copper jetty]

This is what I was saying. Mediation in civil cases in S. Korea aren't formalities... it's basically not needed but highly encouraged. Idk what the judge was thinking for this mediation but maybe or hopefully, it will end either with a withdrawal or settlement.

[copper jetty]

Who's Jasmin?

[clear hill]

At first even I fell for the misinfo esp around their debut bc not even 1 day of newjeans existing people were drowning out any newjeans media w “mhj is a pr3dator” “mhj is a PDF file” “she’s a gr00mer” etc and bc they were minors when they first debuted I was pretty hesitant

Oh and cookie 😭😭 phew it was crazy around that time

[copper jetty]

Idk about u but when I saw her explanation for cookie it made sense... I used to burn cds so I could play them on my player so I get why she compared them to cookie but ngl the lyrics is 😬...

It is a banger though. I love the production and even the mv for me. One of newjeans' best ones.

[short laurel]

She said Minji look good when younger in her presscon last year. She was praising her. But ppl took it without context n without korea cultural understanding.

[clear hill]

I get that explanation tbh! But a lot of knetz who act like ppl making a huge deal about the cookie misunderstanding are still missing the point bc at the end of the day kpop has always been influenced by the west. Just wish they did a better job at projecting that cookie=CD and not so provocative lyrics if they wanted to convey that. But idc cookie is a banger 🗣

[clear hill]

I need to rewatch that whole press conference tbh, I missed a lot simply from watching people’s recap and small clips of it

[mild mist]

https://youtu.be/kGE8xbYEYdk

There it is for you

[mint elm]

chat is this winnable

for the girls i mean obv

[cerulean lake]

honestly can’t tell especially w the messed up legal system in korea too. seems like their team did a better job with evidence compared to the injunction but we never know bc it’s up to the judge’s interpretation too.

[fleet nebula]

Loving MHJs insta story updates lately

[feral tapir]

yeah i've noticed she became active again

[stable sparrow]

is it possible to get a subreddit banned or no

[feral tapir]

no idea

[fleet nebula]

her latest one "Gonna make you mine" hahaha yeah Ws incoming

[mild mist]

Probably, but heaven knows what you need to do

[hollow sorrel]

https://x.com/divinelycorrutp/status/1947125956306706817

Divine (@divinelycorrutp)

Brands/creators BELIFT will likely collaborate with (if they haven’t already).

Based on Choiyumi’s following

@/jihyungchoi/@/jichoinet

X · Jul 21, 2025, 2:46 AM

this thread is actually so scary like wtf???

so basically choi yumi is NewJeans' stylist since their debut and it seems like ILLIT's creative director "xerianheu" went throught Choi Yumi's following list and FOLLOWED every single brand NewJeans worked with???

[empty halo]

settling is the safest way to get out of this lowk but idk if both parties could come to a FAIR conclusion

[cinder narwhal]

haha if you can't beat them (plagiarism allegations) join em

[empty halo]

how did belift become a hub for creative directors, artists and stylists who have no real creativity ¿?
a choreographer and a producer who copy.... okay just 2 people, but literally every person employed under the company has 0 original thoughts. How can they not hire a genuinely unique artist in a single department even by accident.

[cinder narwhal]

just think of it as good for businesses lol

[storm warren]

birds of feathers kinda flock together

[empty halo]

[hollow sorrel]

but it’s not really good for the business??

ILLIT are forever known as a NewJeans copycat by the industry and most of the general public they set their own group up

and every few months more and more plagiarism allegations come out from a lot of other sources as well

[cinder narwhal]

I'm not talking about belift

[empty halo]

if there were no plagiarism allegations, i feel like their career and sales would be indirectly doing better

so it kinda is bad for business maybe idk

[hollow sorrel]

ohh sorry I misunderstood

[hollow sorrel]

also I just know if they settle there will be CRAZY mediaplay saying that ADOR won or something

[clear hill]

WHAT THE FUCK 😭😭 that is crazy

[orchid field]

This cannot POSSIBLY be a coincidence

[warm hollow]

deranged behaviour lololll

[short laurel]

Either way girls will be free with or without fines

N public already lost trust in hybe.

[feral tapir]

what the skibidi

[waxen musk]

Fake Ador uploading a NewJeans video this week.

Weird timing on this Tweet lol. Also wasn't shared anywhere until now. https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1949897864991428706

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

Btw Ador also presented one of the anniversary videos while claiming "Ador employees misses NJZ so much" at the third hearing so please stop sharing whatever they post even if it means photos and clips you've never seen

X · Jul 28, 2025, 6:20 PM

I do wonder what else fake Ador can do now that there are no more upcoming hearings. I assume document submissions can still be made? The other day I was going to ask if people should stop worrying about giving fake Ador's videos views. But I'm not so sure people can stop considering doing so.

[hoary frost]

[feral tapir]

i mean besides being annoying as hell idk what else they're doing

[upbeat stream]

Yes, they submitted something today

[waxen musk]

Oh I didn't even see that.

[upbeat stream]

According to ChatGPT, they submitted a "rebuttal brief containing oral argument materials" whatever that means

[waxen musk]

The last I saw that was on the 25th. But submissions after that wouldn't be surprising, I just haven't seen them.

[frozen granite]

Are people on twitter talking about this ?

[warm hollow]

some people are, but it’s not being discussed enough

[frozen granite]

I wonder if it’s making any noise on Reddit

[warm hollow]

probably not, the same bitches who were hating on them in the first place are quiet now.

or probably still hating and ignoring the truth

[winter pecan]

[hollow shore]

for months people have been saying "but its on video" and it is proof she lied. ...tbh they won't even accept they were wrong, they will just move on to saying it is no big deal

[mild mist]

I doubt it. Reddit are still trying to convince everyone that bang sihyuk did nothing wrong

[hollow sorrel]

https://x.com/njzbase/status/1950070930211828036?s=46

NJZ Base (@njzbase)

With National Tax Service joining, HYBE is currently being investigated by:

1. The National Tax Service (NEW)
2. Seoul Metropolitan Police
3. Financial Supervisory Service
4. Securities and Futures Commission

🔗 https://t.co/gY5fLNoHMl

X · Jul 29, 2025, 5:48 AM

[sage venture]

HYBE is getting raided again lol

[mild mist]

Might as well just shut the place down for two weeks and let them all do their thing

(how far away are they from a PAK)

[sage venture]

from what I’ve heard since it’s a special tax investigation it could last over a month

[feral tapir]

but if hybe is drowning isn't it gonna affect all the other hybe groups as well?

[sage venture]

https://www.tfmedia.co.kr/news/article.html?no=193187

HYBE America and TAG could also be investigated

[mild mist]

[chanting] Freeze the assets! Freeze the assets!

[copper jetty]

I think that's a PAK already

Also they had that "top company" award so they were not supposed to get audited by the government... I wonder what they've been up to knowing that.

[mild mist]

The first K-pop label to achieve a PAK in criminal investigations
BSH oppa really paving the way 💖

[copper jetty]

How many times have Hybe been raided this year? There was that raid for IPO, a raid for that YG stock, and now this?

If there's a no. Of times for Raks and Paks this should be counted too for the number of raids in their office.

[snow furnace]

🔥

[upbeat stream]

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/a-letter-to-hybe-shareholders-from-music-business-worldwide/

Interesting article, I didn't know tag pr is this incompetent

Also, isn't this confirmation of tag's involvement into hybe stuff? We knew that already but first direct mention by media

[old cypress]

oof they exposed tag pr lmao

https://x.com/Iamwaiting_Them/status/1950129985966264576

HURRYUP_COMEBACK (@Iamwaiting_Them)

헐 이것도 세무조사에 포함됨
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

X · Jul 29, 2025, 9:43 AM

hybe IM and ador

[hollow sorrel]

wasn’t there also a hidden real estate company within HYBE that bang si hyuk used to buy his LA mansion? I wonder what the Tax Service will do abt that

[vestal rover]

sorry im late to the discussion but is this true?

[snow furnace]

yes

[marsh roost]

Everyone was pointing it out back then when it was first submitted

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/bborbnz/status/1950145854498885906?t=rYBEeRJ3PdfKRqHA-bZt_A&s=33

☁ (@bborbnz)

X · Jul 29, 2025, 10:46 AM

Lmao... maybe I could ask the mods if they can have this as a sticker.

[heady gate]

https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10542496

[short laurel]

https://fixupx.com/thvkene/status/1949712304242823270?t=KmaXe_lGbQ0FZSKQuAGmCw&s=19
He brought njz letter

Ken (@thvkene)

It seems like Taehyung has visited the base for one of his comrades’ discharge.

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FixupX · Jul 28, 2025, 6:03 AM

[runic knoll]

Could this means that everything that he and his staff did to NJZ atm went backfired completely?

[heady gate]

We will find out after the audit is completed.

[runic knoll]

How much jail time length that the court usually gave to someone like that ugly HYBE CEO for fraud crime?

[timber shell]

maximum can be up to life-time sentence, but not that much in real

[old cypress]

he's in trouble for several crimes lol

well actually just 1 since the rest is hybe not bang pd

[old cypress]

this is old news

[raven kelp]

wasn't newjeans trending in x yesterday because of this letter

[old cypress]

yeah because the soldier (V's friend) posted about it again

[copper jetty]

Tag PR called out
https://x.com/eeugeo/status/1950156289239040478?t=1tkf00g-EWIjRJ9XnwD3rw&s=19

🛸 (@eeugeo)

it’s now confirmed TAGPR is actively manipulating online narratives for HYBE’s scandals
https://t.co/qxnYgp17Kr

X · Jul 29, 2025, 11:27 AM

[old cypress]

a W from musicbusinessworldwide

[upbeat stream]

Either Sejong or K&C submitted a document transmission request to the court today. It's asking documents from Seo[redacted] which could be the Seoul Metropolitan Police (for mhj's case) or the Seoul High Court (for the appeal ruling)

What's weird is that the court website always mentions which side made the request, but that's omitted here

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1950131368630890696

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM)

Widely Known Nickname of Seoul Regional Tax Office Investigate 4 Dept. in Korea:
"The Grim Reaper of Corporates"

X · Jul 29, 2025, 9:48 AM

[waxen musk]

I don't even know what to say about Hybe, but I don't think these upcoming weeks will be boring. 🍿

[short laurel]

Date of cake says it's recent

[heady gate]

July 29, 2025
National Tax Service Launches Special Tax Audit

July 24, 2025
Police raid Hybe headquarters over chairman Bang Si-hyuk’s alleged pre-IPO stock fraud

July 3, 2025
Korea Exchange offices raided on Monday over HYBE IPO suspicions

June 16, 2025
Prosecutors reject second police request to raid HYBE

May 29, 2025
HYBE HQ raided by authorities in South Korea amid insider trading investigation,
as part of an investigation into alleged insider trading by a former executive.

May 29, 2025
The Financial Supervisory Service has been looking into suspicions
that Bang misled early investors during Hybe’s pre-IPO phase in 2019

HYBE HQ is busy

[old cypress]

he kept the letter as a souvenir, it's pretty obvious from the context

[short laurel]

Well many of us tokkies found out about this recently.

[lament delta]

I'm just super drained by the whole drama. The last time I interacted with the njz community or this discord was months ago. I just don't want to be heartbroken by the news anymore. It's just so depressing and I really do want the girls to win. I'm just scared.

[heady gate]

Revisit here after Oct 31.

[waxen musk]

They should move Halloween to October 30 because nothing can be scarier than that day.

I haven't honestly considered how I will react if things don't go well.

If NJZ lose, but then things are later exposed at Hybe that would have helped NJZ win, what happens then? The timing of everything is way too important.

I almost feel like even if NJZ win, the truth may not be fully "proven" but all these audits could potentially expose a lot of the truth at a later date.

[empty halo]

theyll bounce back eventually, even if it takes some time

all is not lost even if they lose this lawsuit

[thorny knot]

wasn't discussed enough when they first submitted it

[wanton flint]

i mean as time goes by there are multiple bad news about hybe while there are lots of good news about njz so hopefully

[static oriole]

I honestly can't picture a reality in where the girls are not thriving. I'm quite confident that they're going to win, but if not, they'll 100% going to bounce back

[empty halo]

https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1950207650232168663?t=iPwz2vs8nAe-1BBSqlx-qg&s=19

pannchoa (@pannchoa)

HYBE allegedly siphoned off 4.1 billion in NewJeans' revenue from Battlegrounds' contract to another subsidiary illegally
https://t.co/O0EzJ2fgfO

X · Jul 29, 2025, 2:51 PM

[hollow shore]

wow that seems like a big deal

[fierce cloak]

in a funny thought, recently Kpop Demon Hunter's Golden is topping the chart. Which the Huntrix are literally shaman who protect people from evil. At the same time, Hybe are being investigated and exposed left any right. I guess the song does work very well

[wary creek]

is this for real? HYBE is sounding like a hotbed for financial crimes. Three employees arrested for insider trading, BSH being investigated, company being audited for suspicions of tax evasion.

[heady gate]

yes

[wary creek]

then i'm wondering if this can be used in court if technically it's not evidence submitted.

[warm hollow]

yep

[thorny knot]

like hanni has not changed her statement at all it that footage directly contradicts her statement, cause she said it was just her no other newjeans members, so that alone is enough

not to mention that hybe has said the og footage was deleted

[feral tapir]

we all know hybe is manipulating everything idk why we're still talking about it

[warm hollow]

sadly yeah

[feral tapir]

[warm hollow]

(pretend I have nitro and I waved back at you lolll)

[feral tapir]

there's a gif of it wait

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1214245939099992147.gif?size=48

[warm hollow]

ayyyye

[storm warren]

we all know that all pathetic lies ador said for injunction was meant to smear njz image

[thorny knot]

oh 100%

[storm warren]

bc evidence is not examined and questioned closely, they got away with it and they knew njz would suffer massive hate bc of it

[thorny knot]

anything to harrass them more

[storm warren]

its frustrating to know how much they lied and everyone ate it up. hope girls get their justice. especially hanni

[thorny knot]

same

all the girls deserve an apology but hanni deserves it the most

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/mojunebug/status/1950245657836737021?s=46

jhan ⁷²² 🎀🏁#⁵🪽 (@mojunebug)

literally everything coming out lately is shit tokkis said a year ago but no one wanted to believe

X · Jul 29, 2025, 5:22 PM

[hoary frost]

is it me or anti-njz videos are popping up aggressively on youtube

[cinder narwhal]

fix your algo

[hoary frost]

i already did sis. I kept on clicking the "don't recommend this channel" and "not interested in this video" option on youtube but they kept on popping up ://

[waxen musk]

I found that even if my algorithm has no NewJeans related things, the moment I search for NewJeans, the worst stuff appears in the results. I never watch the videos. And they don't then appear in my algorithm. But still... if you search, it's a bad time.

I overheard a young American kid (really random for Americans to be in my town in the UK) singing one of the K-pop Demon Hunter songs yesterday. Really made me wonder if kids who get into K-pop because of this are stepping into a whole lot of shit that their parents probably have no idea about. It's scary.

All it takes is one search, like I said.

K-pop is supposed to be an all ages joyful thing that you don't need to worry about.

But so much immediate toxicity. I really wonder what it's like to grow up on K-pop, since I'm super old and only got into it a couple of years ago.

[upbeat stream]

I've said this many times here but there's an extension called blocktube which blocks channels outright, highly recommended

[hoary frost]

Omg thankies T.T 🙏🏻

[copper jetty]

This is true. I've had a couple this past few days which seems to be from new accounts. It appeared on my YouTube because of the "newjeans" algorithm and the ones popping up are new accounts.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1950312214642249914

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

There are some company stans saying that this audit could be good for hybe because if they are innocent, they can show it to the world.

The chance of that is less than 1%. The special tax team 4 only audits you because they already know you did something illegal.

X · Jul 29, 2025, 9:47 PM

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1950283463938232559?t=0-v1ZRLGfaeZgyC34CCiKA&s=19 -c

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o)

HYBE/BSH fits all this.

1. False MHJ accusations affecting stock, IPO secret side deal, etc.

2. Took over ADOR using False MHJ accusation and allegedly siphoning funds to HYBE IM.

3. HYBE with its 80% ownership of ADOR, defamed and removed MHJ as CEO of ADOR (18% owner).

X · Jul 29, 2025, 7:53 PM

What you guys take on this? Idk anything about business and taxes. Does this sound legit or?

[old cypress]

medias are saying that they're investigating hybe so idk why we need to guess

the tax people already raided hybe HQ

and technically hybe didn't acquire ador since it already belonged to them as they own 80% of ADOR

[hoary frost]

omg i just noticed it now...i feel sorry for the njz girls...so many disinformation about them. I thought it was only reddit but youtube is infested with TAG PR bots and leeches as well ://

[craggy skiff]

*x -c https://x.com/hahagatung/status/1950379462555578670?t=DSW5J60VTLWlKsDPY_553g&s=19

할말 (@hahagatung)

ENG, JPN, CHI, THI ) HYBE’s PR executives, CCO Park Tae-hee (Executive Vice President of Communications) and Head of Corporate PR Cho Sung-hoon, made an unreasonable request to our company’s industry desk chief editor to take down an article, even if only from online platforms.

X · Jul 30, 2025, 2:14 AM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1950379462555578670 does not contain any media!

[cerulean lake]

yea i dont recommend searching up nwjns/njz related content on youtube. it’s raided w/ hybe glazers and those insufferable “ktubers” who just hate on other groups for content and label it as their own “unpopular opinions”

the only nwjns-related content i watched on youtube since the injunction was probably like people reacting to their music for the first time

[snow furnace]

[lapis tendon]

That KOOKIET or whatever YouTuber w the click bait titles keeps trying it lol

[lapis tendon]

Mhmm the walls are coming down over there.

[polar owl]

KMCA was quick to accuse MHJ & NJZ of tampering and had threatened to boycott them. What is their stance lately?

[tawdry vessel]

hmmm we dont care about their stance they are basically just puppets

[red thorn]

Ah yes tampering
It's been a while since I heard that word

[polar owl]

Once this is over, maybe it will time to sue a few folks over and above...

[hoary frost]

I actually started screenshotting blogposts and downloading videos from those paid anti-njz propagandist on Youtube and on the internet that spreads misinformation and fake news. I know some of them are from my country. I'm not familiar with the cybersecurity laws of my country but I'm gonna do what I can to make sure they face the consequences of their actions.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/shamanjz/status/1950218123451257130

Shamanz MHDHH (@shamanjz)

HMMMMMMMMM🤔🤔🤔

X · Jul 29, 2025, 3:33 PM

[hoary frost]

These leeches won't stop unless they suffer the repercussions of their stupidity.

[hoary frost]

omg she listens to frank ocean? 😭

[feral tapir]

mhj really do be sending us signs and they get more obvious each day

[cinder narwhal]

been a while since i read the rkpop megathread. peak entertainment

[copper jetty]

*x https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1835674466560688359?t=9fsdu82vMTldzseghW12NQ&s=19 -c

[harsh dove]

@NewJeansSTRM <t:1726493872:d>

(ENG) Hello, this is Team Bunnies from NewJeans Streaming Support Team.

On September 2nd, we filed a complaint against HYBE Corporation, Source Music, and two journalists from the media outlet Dispatch. Following this, on the 9th, we submitted a petition to the Press Arbitration Commission requesting corrective measures against Dispatch News Group.

On the 9th, we shared a brief statement and updates, and the main content of this submission includes additional evidence supporting the statement: “Several journalists informed us that information was obtained illegally, and HYBE showed journalists and media desks information beyond what is legally permissible or related to their duties. This was done in an attempt to manipulate media coverage by publishing favorable articles based on unlawfully acquired information.”

In continuation of our previous notice, today, on the 11th, we submitted additional evidence and a statement detailing the legal aspects to the Yongsan Police Station in Seoul. We are reviewing additional complaints and will continue our efforts to hold HYBE accountable in various ways, aiming to correct the illegal infringement on the artist.

The main points of the submitted evidence and statement are as follows:

• HYBE’s persistent inappropriate demands, including protest calls to media desks or visits by PR representatives Park Tae-hee (CCO) and Cho Sung-hoon (PR Director) to request the removal of articles unfavorable to HYBE.
• Evidence showing HYBE illegally provided and leaked audit reports and other sensitive information to journalists.
• Instances where the audit reports and conversations shown to journalists by HYBE were later published in actual articles.
  Thank you.

[copper jetty]

Lmao team bunnies cooking Hybe PR

[wary creek]

are they doing mental gymnastics in order to blame mhj and excusing HYBE?

[wary creek]

https://tenor.com/view/alvin-cailan-cooking-tasty-ok-okay-gif-26440696

[mild mist]

Oh of course, we all know that they have conclusive proof that min Heejin blackmailed bang sihyuk and forced him to do financial crimes. The source being a T. M. Bro.

[copper jetty]

Lmao... I'm laughing cause I'm reading about the Hybe IM transfer and if Hybe is found guilty of it... do you guys know that it could be a breach of duty?
How have the turn tables.

[polar owl]

It may seem odd to some that Hybe is trying so hard to retain a group which they wanted to 'replace', knowing very well that the artists and fandom are no longer standing with them.

But, it's not very hard if you understand that the motive is to just humiliate and make an example out of them.

[copper jetty]

Also i think they want to still retain newjeans since fewer competitions for their gg. One they could control when and how they do a cb. They want monopoly to those "top groups".

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/w_armamenter/status/1950465765163122852

ARMAMENTER | very active (@w_armamenter)

This is just too funny to watch. Bro went from

“There’s no investigation” to

“It’s not that serious, it’s only one investigation” to

“Well what about that stylist at Ador?” to

“Criticizing Hybe is treason against Korea” (NEW)

X · Jul 30, 2025, 7:57 AM

[hoary frost]

[analog depot]

How we feeling about this one guys

[copper jetty]

Idk the song. What's the possible message tho?

[red thorn]

The girls are chaebol

[clear hill]

Super rich=onika kids=burgers

[old cypress]

or she's just sharing songs she likes

[mild mist]

Just sitting at home in her pyjamas, jamming away

[warm hollow]

didn’t know she was into frank 🫩

[craggy skiff]

https://x.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1950540677059637498

Sheepymcsheep (@sheepymcsheepy)

It really is true. Ever since NJZ vs Fraudor's 3rd hearing, Fraudor hasn't uploaded any new videos.

Kim Joo-young must've given up on editing after they've failed to provide evidence that they had any plans for NJZ's activities and protection when the court requested for it

X · Jul 30, 2025, 12:55 PM

[analog depot]

Money can make good people do terrible things essentially

[copper jetty]

There's still a schedule for the zine+ for tomorrow.

[waxen musk]

Tokkis on Twitter are doing a really good job of ignoring and not bringing attention to these uploads. I only found out about it in here with one message in the main chat. But when it comes to views, people get it recommended to them regardless and watch anyway.

[waxen musk]

Too many white lies and white lines
Super rich kids with nothin' but loose ends
Super rich kids with nothin' but fake friends

https://x.com/hankyungmedia/status/1950451293564113025

한국경제신문 (@hankyungmedia)

이승우 주가조작 근절 합동대응단장(금융감독원 공시조사부문 부원장보)이 "빠른 시간 안에 반드시 (주가조작) 패가망신 사례를 보여주겠다"고 밝혔다.
#주가조작 #금감원 #패가망신
https://t.co/J0QmRN9KVl

X · Jul 30, 2025, 7:00 AM

Lee Seung-woo, head of the joint response team for eradicating stock price manipulation (Deputy Director of the Disclosure Investigation Department at the Financial Supervisory Service), stated, "We will definitely show an example of (stock price manipulation) leading to complete ruin in a short amount of time."

[mild mist]

We may need a :mhjSmug: or :mhjKek: soon

[runic tinsel]

did they say this specifically about hybe or just in general?

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1950541804920869372

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM)

(250729)
SBS 8 NEWS
'Securites Market Unfair Practices' Blitz Tax Investigation... HYBE Included
Reporter Uhm Min-jae

X · Jul 30, 2025, 12:59 PM

[heady gate]

The video translation is nice.

[raven kelp]

did something significant happen? bunnies on x seem pretty positive

[hollow sorrel]

the new ADOR creative direction is very teenage girl pinterest-y

[empty halo]

where is this from

[hollow sorrel]

kim nayeon's instagram story

[cinder narwhal]

an employee

[empty halo]

yikes

[cinder narwhal]

ah i removed the name coz they're not a public figure but anyway

[empty halo]

the new group better flop hard 👎
tokkis will be boycotting trust

it isnt some well established label thats existed for decades and is already embroiled in controversy, if you audition for it and your guardians let you sign w them you're dumb

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1950562510169420028

pannchoa (@pannchoa)

HYBE VS Min Heejin's real timeline reveals that HYBE leaked Min Heejin's dispute to the media and fueled NewJeans VS ILLIT's conflict in order to drag their legal dispute away from the billion dollars financial fraud they were committing
https://t.co/WaRpcaMJ94

X · Jul 30, 2025, 2:21 PM

btw this theqoo post has over 1000+ comments siding with NJ and MHJ so yes, we won
pendulum swings tik tok

[waxen musk]

Looked at the megathread for the first time in months and finally it's at a point where I can laugh at the comments rather than them cause me to have a headache like I would in the past.

[upbeat stream]

Same. I'm gonna post this theqoo thread to make them even more mad

[waxen musk]

It's funny how these people think MHJ alone has the same powers that Hybe does when it comes to manipulating the media / spreading "fake news" around social media / having connections with the government. I had no idea how prevalent these ideas were in the comments on this reddit thread. It's actually hilarious. If they could tell me where she gets this power from, I'd love to hear it.

[potent lichen]

Haters make her to be this evil dictator or incompetent to their convenience.

She managed to groom all of NJZ and manipulate their parents, who are adults. Wow such power.

Or negate all those years she put out the most iconic kpop concepts at SM.

[short laurel]

Unfortunately sm stans has been hating her for long time. She's blamed for everything wrong with sm.

Army now saying mhj was kicked from sm n mow hybe.
In reality sm give her really good offer to stay. But she left

[empty halo]

https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1950604053429309871?t=rFa-hZS6zjynVx0JbN0xFA&s=33

pannchoa (@pannchoa)

HYBE accused of including unethical and anti-constitutional non-disclosure and non-compete clauses in their employees contracts while blaming on NewJeans for their employees' job insecurity
https://t.co/ylyboS6bod

X · Jul 30, 2025, 5:07 PM

The media suddenly going on nwjns side lmao

[waxen musk]

Just Pannchoa lol. The usual K-media entertainment sites are very quiet.

[wary creek]

mhj is much more powerful than a multibillion dollar corporation /s

[copper jetty]

Wth is this? Also that bunny cake?

[short laurel]

The gal for ador to use bunny

[copper jetty]

The bunny drawing is also...
Idk what aesthetic she was going for here.

But I do think that MHJ and the girls won't have any bad feelings for people who stayed. They know what their staff went through there. If people stayed that's their choice and if people go that's also their own choice.

[upbeat stream]

Pannchoa is on a roll today. Did the communities switch abruptly or did hybe's check ran out? Lol

[feral tapir]

brother when is this gonna end we are TIRED

[fierce cloak]

ironically, pannchoa actually pro njz/mhj from the beginning. They just mix negative posts sometimes to get engagement.

[smoky mesa]

Why are they trying replace THE Bernice....???

[clear hill]

My personal hopium is that mhj made a secure plan for those who decided to resign/leave ador so they wouldn’t be abandoned. I personally think this woman thought all of this through. I can’t prove it but I just have a feeling and based on the type of person she is I feel like she would think of a plan beforehand.

[warm hollow]

frl 🫩

[red thorn]

Tbf nyk and her co are the ones designed the bernice
Her finger prints been all over og ador's/nj's visual aesthetic

[copper jetty]

The thing is a bunny shouldn't even be associated to the bg that Ador were forming. Apparently, their mascot was supposed to be a horse... so idk why a bunny is there.

Also isn't one of their choreographers also stayed?

[feral tapir]

what😭

out of thousands of species they chose BUNNY?

[red thorn]

From what I noticed they often draw any kind of bunny 'mascot' or character, commonly cute creature
Do we even know the bernice history? Was it planned mascot or just happened to be they 'randomly' drew bunny character just they usually do and grew to be mascot that is the bernice

[red thorn]

I belive some og creative staff other than nyk still stay, graphic design from the recent nj anniversary made by og ador staff too

[clear hill]

Let’s be real rabbit,bunny,Bernice has always been associated w newjeans from the get go. Ador doesn’t have a mascot, newjeans has always had Bernice as its mascot

But tbf ador can use it to their advantage. they can just say newjeans was a group under ador so naturally bunny motifs became part of their brand

It’s still weird tho. For her to use the bunny mascot for “ador workshop”, a mascot for a gg ador abandoned. Metaphorically speaking it’s very on brand for ador lol

[waxen musk]

When MHJ was sketching ideas for NewJeans logos, she used the initials "NJ" and found herself making a shape that ended up being in the shape of what she saw as bunnies' ears. She then expanded on it and made it into the light stick and other bunny imagery.

As for using it as the fandom name, she saw the fandom expanding rapidly similar to how bunnies' population grows rapidly.

There seems to be a lot of thought into it and from what it sounds like it birthed from MHJ's mind. But I assume people like Nayeon Kim ended up designing what we call "Bernice" among a lot of other very recognisable elements for NewJeans.

[red thorn]

I see
The idea planned

[waxen musk]

And Bunnies/Tokki refers to the fans and the girls themselves. It has nothing to do with Ador, and everything to do with NewJeans.

Bunnies obviously has continued as a fandom name going into NJZ. And their animations they showed before Pit Stop all used a bunny shape for NJZ and then the other representative animals for the girls.

So it feels really uncomfortable to see something that is our fandom's identity being used at fake Ador.

I wish I understood what was going on with Nayeon Kim. It's very possible she worked on the anniversary animation.

And Ador is in the courts presenting the videos they upload and everything they done on their anniversary to try to convince the judges that they still think of NewJeans as part of them, when the fact is the girls are not going back ever again unless the impossible happens.

Like what am I supposed to assume about Nayeon Kim. All of this is just unacceptable to me.

[upbeat stream]

Yes, her work is being directly used to hurt the girls, and they are on antidepressants. She is a traitor

[waxen musk]

I'm also seeing people on Twitter bring up the fact that Ador argued in the courts that if NewJeans don't return that employees will lose their jobs and that they have nothing to work on. Massive lies after seeing all this work for this Ador workshop going on and their auditions for a boy group.

[waxen musk]

I'm not at the point of calling her a traitor simply because we still don't know the full story. But it doesn't stop it from being unacceptable.

[upbeat stream]

I have no issue with low level employees still working with ador but anybody with the stature and fame of Nayeon can and should find work elsewhere. There's many agencies who would love to have her. The reason why she is sticking with ador is because she wants to be CD, perhaps a position she always coveted

[red thorn]

Her new year ig story made me thought that she was done with corporate job or ador/nj and want to focused more on her own project endeavor
So I kinda assumed she was one of the earliest resigned from ador, she appeared unfollowed mhj, nj, and such
I guess now she's truly her own person

[waxen musk]

I can totally see being in charge of the creative direction of a brand new group under one of the biggest companies for K-pop being extremely enticing.

[upbeat stream]

Yeah, she may think, I've done a lot of work behind the scenes but people only remember the creative director

[red thorn]

But it seems to me mhj gave staff like choi yumi and nyk CD authority in their respective creation
Mhj just to make sure to supervise the vision not off-road

[waxen musk]

I will say though--and I'll repeat we don't know the full story--but Tokkis on Twitter are being so toxic towards her right now. I'm very hesistant to say more than "it's unacceptable" because we don't know enough.

[waxen musk]

People should remind themselves on the meaning of the ASAP MV regarding the bunnies in that MV.

[clear hill]

What’s the meaning of the ASAP mv?>.<

[waxen musk]

I haven't thought hard about it for a long while, but just quickly there's a lot of stuff about bunnies that may be deceiving or not, bunnies that appear as monsters but when you get to know them they are cute bunnies, bunnies that scare the girls. I dunno. I'm bad at explaining and my thoughts are not as clear as I'd like. I can go more in depth later after a rewatch and read.

[clear hill]

Ahhhh I see. This is a good explanation!! I like this interpretation^-^

[cinder narwhal]

she's not a celebrity, and that's just putting words in her mouth. idk she's not a public figure and this witchhunt just doesn't sit right with me
(i acknowledge the hypocrisy because i participated in it earlier, but minds change)

[tawdry vessel]

you don't have to agree with her decision but its her decision so you have to atleast respect that

[upbeat stream]

It's just my opinion. I even told tokkis on twitter to not harass her

[cinder narwhal]

nice

[empty halo]

I always though pann posts whatever take gets them the most clicks and atm it's the posts on nwjns side

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1950727796436959243

[narrow seal]

250731 PoppyKPoppie (@​PoppyKPoppie) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1950727796436959243
so are we all just going to pretend that this is okay? i mean, this hybrid knock off of bernice feels like a major downgrade. this poor thing looks like an alien bunny trapped in a teddy bear’s body.

[copper current]

looks ugly and trying to imitate and exploit NJZ, Nayeon kim I will remember

[heady gate]

That is an alien bunny from out of the space.

[shut kelp]

please dont tell me its that one group.......

[frozen granite]

What are the chances of the girls winning this ?? Any opinions ?

[cinder narwhal]

morale is high coming from the last hearing, but we cannot say.

[red thorn]

True, can't say
Let's say even the lawyers have educated prediction on how this gonna end, in practice the trial is still risky and can be very unpredictable
As supporter, just have faith I guess

[empty halo]

the way they needed a new bunny mascot bc Bernice is and always will be tied to nwjns anyways this new one is hideous

[empty halo]

I don't understand why they're still going for a bunny as if nwjns' fandom name literally isn't BUNNIES/tokkis. Wouldn't it make more sense for them to distance themselves from bunnies and old ador's direction?

[cinder narwhal]

it does not actually

bunnies/rabbit mascot is an established branding

this way commoners will think bunny = newjeans = ador

[raven kelp]

ador's (og) new bg was the one thing i was most excited for before this whole ordeal...can't believe this is how it ended up

[cinder narwhal]

yeah it was gonna be the first bg i listen to lol

[raven kelp]

same same

[orchid field]

lmao they are stretching so hard they invented a new form of copium 😭

[mild mist]

I bet they're not even one of the paid accounts, they're just that pathetic

[fallow forge]

From twice or someone else?

[mild mist]

Someone else
She's worked at ADOR for a while

[fallow forge]

Ohh

[empty halo]

why not js use Bernice like they used to then

[cinder narwhal]

because it's not newjeans related..?

[native anchor]

first rabbit doesnt look that bad

[feral tapir]

0 effort

[waxen musk]

Saw the new vid in my recommendations (didn't watch it). Seems like they've gone semi-chronologically through providing bonus clips from Jeans' ZINE episodes... so what I'm hoping is that it's over. The cooking ZINE was their final one. We'll find out next week to see if Ador don't have any more uploads.

[feral tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/winter-aespa-angry-minjeong-130rvnng-gif-10227740944251779881

[waxen musk]

lol what is that gif

[timber shell]

winto

[waxen musk]

I feel like I should post miofari's videos in here just to help out and boost views. They don't get enough views and they're pretty helpful recaps. https://t.co/OA45QeCZLI

[feral tapir]

winto

[waxen musk]

I'll also like to remind people of zippy, for people on TikTok. He's still keeping it up with updates and is a rare older guy you don't usually hear from: https://www.tiktok.com/@djzippy2020

[warm hollow]

angry winto

[snow furnace]

I still watch if the newjeans channel uploads a clip but I don't watch it online, i just take the link to download it.

[waxen musk]

Oh yeah that's fine. Doesn't give Ador any advantages.

[short laurel]

Nha it looks good actually. Ofc bernice is better

[zealous helm]

i wonder why all these recap channels are tts

[mild mist]

quicker to make than recording and editing

[frozen granite]

Who is this?

[feral tapir]

temu bernice

[frozen granite]

But did someone from the newjeans team worked on it ?

[feral tapir]

idk i don't understand anything anymore

[clear hill]

No it’s from current ador for their new bg but it’s a commission from an artist

[clear hill]

Yeah a lot of antis were saying now that mhj isn’t the CD of Hybe everyone can have their credit and recognition... which is kinda weird bc I’m pretty sure if you buy an album (someone correct me if I’m wrong) there would be credits in the back?? As well as the mvs? I totally get that though, as a cd I’m sure she would want to have more creative freedom and less restriction now that she has a high ranking position

[red thorn]

Also mhj was never a CD? Not using conventional CD credit too, bc as I said it seems to me she did gave more creative direction authority to those main creative staff
Her focus more on producing, management and supervising

[mild mist]

you very rarely see credits in videos these days, especially on the cut that gets uploaded to youtube / melon etc.
Yes, albums do credit most of the production staff, but there's no list of who to credit that labels follow
for example, of the four albums I just picked up, only one credited the principal photographer

[short laurel]

Newjeans mv ending full of credits list. Idk about other hybe groups

[short laurel]

Kinda ironic coming from hybe stans when bsh has so much rumors about stealing credits

[flint orbit]

did njz win the latest thing

[ashen charm]

no it hasnt happened it its on the 14th

[zealous helm]

is that one private

[ashen charm]

i dont believe so but it is the first time the one of the members will be in court

[zealous helm]

prob gonna be minji

i really hope they reach some sort of agreement cause its anyones guess what way the hearing can go

[ashen charm]

i hope its not hanni because they will grill her

[zealous helm]

yeah hannis been thru enough

not gonna be hyein

[snow furnace]

also haerin

[short laurel]

I think all 5 n parents will be present

[zealous helm]

yeah its not just limited to 1 member

[short laurel]

I m more curious about who will ador send

[zealous helm]

has mhj been mia or something

[ashen charm]

hanni isnt fluent in korean so she might not understand everuthing thats why id prefer minji as she is and isnt phased

[ashen charm]

she has her own lawsuits but njz did say they would work together in the future shes just dealing with her own stuff

[zealous helm]

wasnt the plan for njz to join mhjs new company or something sry im tryna refresh my memory

[red thorn]

Only rumour and speculations

[ashen charm]

danielle said she would like to work with mhj again at the press conference

[waxen musk]

I've heard the opposite, that is will be private. I'm not even sure this is "court" as so much a meeting between two parties set up by the courts. And they were at the first injunction hearing so they've been to court as a group once, not including Hanni's appearance at the National Assembly.

The day isn't over yet but it feels like the first quiet day in over a week.

[short laurel]

Hybe is in too much shambles to mediaplay for now.

[clear hill]

Ah my bad

[clear hill]

Damn really?

[clear hill]

Yeah honestly. For her sake if she doesn’t want to be in the public eye for a while I totally understand. She has been demonized soooo bad by the media.fuck Hybe fr

[clear hill]

Yeah tbh. Aloooot of Hybe stuff is being exposed to us. So it would be very obvious if they try to pull a media play rn

[short laurel]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DMXp_Ycs_qI/ what fit is this jhope wearing 😭

[cinder narwhal]

mothtech

[pearl cipher]

Interesting Minju said on Music Bank that illit and TXT are from the, “…same label…” since hybe asserts in court documents that everything is separate. 🙄

[steel depot]

it's actually cute i should take inspo from him hehe but it's out of topic

anyway, are we still positive for the girls

[cinder narwhal]

what is the alternative

[feral tapir]

https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1951141778951688265?t=9hU5AYWHuNwtNBqAmgqAXg&s=19

pannchoa (@pannchoa)

Bang Sihyuk revealed to have been a composer and the final producer who approved 'Gnarly'
https://t.co/A3YGlwQxEl

X · Aug 1, 2025, 4:43 AM

that's fucked up

so he approved that moan sound when there are minors in the group

[warm hollow]

indeed very incredibly disgusting

[feral tapir]

i think it's astonishing knowing that man is out walking freely

when he should be in locked up in jail

[mild mist]

His time will come

Before then we'll need to decide which reaction image to spam

[warm hollow]

yeah his fatass is gonna be jailed soon 🥹

[mild mist]

question we probably shouldn't ask - where did that sample come from

[opaque flicker]

apparently from a random chainsmokers tt but this has nothing to do with the njz hybe issue so theres no need to talk ab it here

[feral tapir]

i'm just sayin that's lowkey pdo of him so 1 more reason to send that man to jail

[opaque flicker]

and im saying theres no need to keep talking ab external drama

[feral tapir]

👍

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1951260151005982928

1tokki (@juantokki)

Bunnies squad!! 🐰
yellz_z, blackqworld, o_opupu

X · Aug 1, 2025, 12:34 PM

You can't help but see this as a response to Nayeon Kim using bunny imagery inside fake Ador.

[stone grotto]

If Minji goes to the mediation, she’ll do great.

[red thorn]

Still has bernice sticker on her phone uwu

[bronze talon]

same

[feral tapir]

who that

[red thorn]

Yellz

[waxen musk]

Yellz was the bunny in Supernatural, right?

I got Yellz and Jerri mixed up the other day when we found out Jerri is still at Ador.

[hollow sorrel]

also they have been teasing tamagotchis for so long I wouldn't be surprised if their next album packaging or the album concept has something to do with it

[waxen musk]

I don't know if you remember the background graphics during the Pit Stop performance.

Of course the New Jeans MV had a lot of retro game themes, too.

[raven kelp]

still manifesting mario kart x newjeans

call me delusional

[native anchor]

lol

[clear hill]

Why would we not be

[native anchor]

Yeh

[steel depot]

it was a dumb question:l i know we are postive

[clear hill]

Yup that’s right

[ashen charm]

i think that ship has sailed

[heady gate]

13 days until NJ Exclusive contract validation trial mediation on Aug 14.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/shamanjz/status/1951451467908522404

Shamanz MHDHH (@shamanjz)

When you need to publish something so you got triggered by garlic bulbs and watermelons, force a connection and call it a day. This writer needs hot coffee splashed on his/her face.💀

X · Aug 2, 2025, 1:14 AM

[buoyant hamlet]

"shamanjz" is a goated username

[waxen musk]

Sometimes her song choices are so obviously a response to something that recently happened that even when her song choices aren't, people still assume they might be relevant.

But yeah I haven't even read that story but twisted is the right word for it.

[hollow sorrel]

I feel like she just has a producer mindset even when she posts

everything is very intentional and has some kind of meaning behind it that’s why I always try to check the song what if she’s telling us a message or something

[waxen musk]

Yeah for sure. Even the posts before Pit Stop and ComplexCon performance were very telling of what we should expect.

[copper jetty]

What is with this headline? Maybe there's a context in korean language. Probably

[steel depot]

i miss them so much

[native anchor]

yep

[snow furnace]

yep

[clear hill]

Guys were lowkey turning into swifties 😔/hj

[fallow forge]

I saw someone say that bts v n newjeans met up but idk bc the video is 3 days old but I haven’t watched it get I just wanted to know if it was true or not or if any of you know about it

IM SO CONFUSED SORRY

[zealous helm]

are u talking about that army card haerin and danielle signed?

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/soulsearchstina/status/1951767804652183672 😵

🔮𝔖𝔬𝔲𝔩 𝔰𝔢𝔞𝔯𝔠𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔴𝔦...

☽ NJZ prediction ☾

⬷14th of August⤐

Resurrection sometimes requires fighting multiple battles before a white flag can be raised...
I'm really glad I happened to see the trial date by complete accident which then immediately made me let out a sigh of relief as the current

X · Aug 2, 2025, 10:11 PM

[cinder narwhal]

tldr good vibes incoming
victory on 8/14
njz redebut on 9/22

*snort* gotta have my morning copium

[tawdry vessel]

i aint reading allat

hope for the best

[snow furnace]

I will do read it all

[waxen musk]

Don't expect anything at the mediation unless Ador is desperate.

I'd love to not have to wait as long as 3 months, but yeah... not happening.

I'll read it though. Cos I want to beleive in the impossible.

[waxen musk]

I say all this but ...well, a lot can change in two weeks regarding BSH and Hybe, and if something does happen, it could influence a lot for a mediation, I think.

[copper jetty]

I ain't reading allat either..
Can't even understand what it's saying aside from it's good.

[cerulean lake]

i don’t wanna read the prediction and then be sad if it doesn’t come true 😔

[warm hollow]

apparently NJZ WILL win their legal battle, regain control over their careers, and rise even stronger

and that september 22th will be their rebirth

[tawdry vessel]

[native anchor]

that would be so awesome sauce

[warm hollow]

I don’t believe in astrology, but I genuinely hope the best for the girlies

[runic knoll]

I hope that ugly HYBE CEO got jailed

[upbeat stream]

k-tokkis are so fired up right now. Apparently there's a coordinated campaign on dc to pressure njz to return to ador. A lot of new accounts pretending to be tokkis, several new newjeans galleries created in the last few days

It's all too transparent lol

[feral tapir]

man why are people like this

can't they just mind their own business like damn get a life

[analog depot]

People who have no life outside their phones scare me

[feral tapir]

u better be right

[copper jetty]

I wouldn't have any doubt if this again is part of Hybe's pr media campaign

[upbeat stream]

These are the demands, judge for yourself (I'm not as confident it's from hybe's side after translating the statement lol):

1. Mutual apology between HYBE's executives, Min Hee-jin, and NewJeans
2. All efforts to be made in creating content with the idols to mediate conflicts between strongly opinionated supporters and resolve fandom disputes
3. Reinstate Min Hee-jin as ADOR’s CEO in exchange for her giving up the put option
4. Neutralize and clarify the process to prevent attempts by HYBE’s board to remove ADOR directors or the CEO by amending the shareholder agreement
5. Continued sincere activities by Min Hee-jin and NewJeans to maintain the shared value of the HYBE multi-label system

Would ador really be willing to have mhj back as CEO? Sounds like capitulation

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/minotaurkard/status/1952029456492892234?s=46

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

@3rab5555 they are going to submit it to the courts and they are going to use it as media play for the next 2-3 months when the mediation fails especially if the court sides with them.. theyll make mhj the bad woman again, the woman who refused to make amends for her stock options..

X · Aug 3, 2025, 3:31 PM

If this is the case then the mediation sounds like a waste of time and predetermined.

I still don’t know if the demands we’ve heard over and over (ever since contract termination notice) are the only thing NJZ will accept or if other completely different options could be on the table.

[warm hollow]

I HOPE SOO TOO

[feral tapir]

we should do some kind of ritual to make them win

https://tenor.com/view/fogueira-noturna-gif-24620981

[snow furnace]

i pray many times every day, hope it works

[short laurel]

https://x.com/cliff_cow/status/1952030444767351042?t=kXv8GF1O9hODOCrhLhAxSw&s=19

Bunnies_CowCow (@cliff_cow)

@MinotaurKard I've been expecting that but didn't wanna put it out, they know the girls ain't gonna buy that bs so they can blame them for the 1000 times not taking their "generous offer", so, see, who's the spoiled brat not willing to mediate? Let's mediaplay

X · Aug 3, 2025, 3:34 PM

[warm hollow]

yes let’s all collectively do that

[storm warren]

they really cant give it up huh

[old cypress]

it's like how hybe blamed mhj for not taking up the offer to stay at ador (the internal producer contract with ridiculous clauses)

[upbeat stream]

But if this indeed is the mediation offer from ador, then from njz's perspective doesn't it make sense? Idk how much mhj would like this, but njz is basically getting her back as CEO with guaranteed autonomy via a change in the shareholders agreement to safeguard the board of directors

[short laurel]

Hybe controlled company doing that? That would mean them admitting everything they done to mhj is there doing n losing their case against her.

[zealous helm]

what does 'in exchange for her giving up the put option' mean

[zealous helm]

they already lost though

[short laurel]

Court battle still ongoing

[upbeat stream]

Min heejin's contract with hybe involved a put option, which gave her the right to sell her 18% stake in ador at a pre-determined rate

Hybe terminated the agreement and refused to pay her and the matter is in court. Presumably, if mhj gives up her put option, ador could be willing to get her back as CEO, or so the logic of this statement goes

[native anchor]

is that statement from hybe?

[upbeat stream]

No it's just an anonymous message from "Newjeans fandom union" circulating on various dc boards (which is like the korean reddit)

[native anchor]

oh

[upbeat stream]

I'm guessing it's from neither side but rather from certain hybe shareholders who are angry at hybe for blundering newjeans

The way it managed to piss off both tokkis and hybe stans lol. Impressive

[short laurel]

Hybe shareholders should be mad at hybe executives, n punish them instead of demanding mhj to give up her well earned shares

[copper jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-cat-gif-10313804341011582757

Also why in the world would mhj give up her put option when there's a chance for her to actually win the case? Is this Hybe capping cause they know they gonna lose that shareholder's case since mhj was proven not guilty by the police?

[old cypress]

it's worded like a hybe shill. "Shared value of the hybe multi-label system" is something only hybe or a hybecel would write

and "continued sincere activities" lol

if hybe is doing this they must have little faith in the main trial's outcome

assuming the statement comes from hybe. It could be some random troll

[frozen granite]

HYBE is offering mhj to be ceo again ? I heard that .. is that true or rumors?

[feral tapir]

even if it's true they ain't going back there

[old cypress]

it's not true

[copper jetty]

Even if hybe somehow agrees for mhj to be CEO again how would Hybe guarantee that it's never going to do the bull that they did last April 2024 and takeover Ador?

There's no guarantee whatsoever as long as Ador is under Hybe. So the girls and I doubt mhj would ever want to go back.

I'm guessing this is again for media play. I'm praying so hard for the girls to win the case next Oct. Please

[cosmic belfry]

i would believe that list of demands solely based on the "giving up her put option" part. It's so transparent why they did this in the first place. They didn't want to pay her.

[fallow forge]

Did newjeans say that illit plagiarize their songs or wtv like the concept

Bc there was a article going around saying that newjeans claim that illit copied them before mhj said smth ( I don’t have it but I wanna fact check bc someone is saying that newjans said this

https://t.co/Rrb4bF02ps the article is in Korean

It claims that newjeans members asked mhj is she gonna sit back and do nothing while illit copies them can sm1 lmk if this is valid or a trustable source n why it is or isn’t bc idk

Wait no the parents asked this

[upbeat stream]

As you can see, the article now says it's the parents who raised the question. It earlier said the members themselves did so, leading to a lot of hate for njz. Either a mistake or a malicious lie, the latter being more likely if you know how korean media behaves

I'm still angry about this shitty article, fuck sports today. It got so much attention in both korea and overseas

[fallow forge]

Do you have a translated version of this or smth I can translate it with bc Google isn’t helping

[upbeat stream]

I don't speak Korean, you can use chatgpt it's usually more accurate than google and more often than not gets the job done

After 1 week where newjeans got insane amount of hate, they quietly changed the article but the damage is done. Of all the things hybe has done to njz, this constant slander via the media is the most unforgivable. They have tried to destroy their lives and careers, one malicious lie at a time for a whole fucking year

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/webelieveinbots/status/1952147306809049281

webelieveingwarosa (@webelieveinbots)

“Coincidentally” all of the sites where the statement by “bunnies” was posted were created on July 30 (only after the hearing date where the mediation date was set) and none of them are that active (1-3 posts)

X · Aug 3, 2025, 11:19 PM

[storm warren]

apparently they tried posting on reddit subs as well. inactive accounts suddenly made posts about petition.

it seems they got TAG PR bots working as well

[cinder narwhal]

where do they post on reddit

[copper jetty]

Yeah where on reddit?

[storm warren]

newjeans/njz subs

[craggy skiff]

Think about it
Why dont team bunnies make another petition about ador/hybe must admit, apology and revert all their actions last year?
If hybe trying to use fandom opinion, so we just give them another one

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1952293712496939390

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

Breaking - Police will search HYBE HQ for a month
Police announces it will extend their search and seizure until August 16th, and the search is unrestricted in terms of scope

https://t.co/t0qPjIBgaR

X · Aug 4, 2025, 9:01 AM

[mild mist]

Breaking - TAG PR working overtime for a month

"it is unusual for a warrant to allow such extensive search and seizure"
- they found the skeletons

"Earlier on the 11th of last month, President Lee Jae-myung visited the Korea Exchange and emphasized, "If you play in the Korean stock market, you must clearly show that you will be ruined.""
- they're definitely going to make an example here

[dull geyser]

right why is all of reddit so firmly anti mhdhh 🫩 genuinely dont get it

[mild mist]

It stems from their undying hatred of min heejin

Where that comes from, I have no idea

[dull geyser]

HA of course it was him everything makes sm sense now

[buoyant hamlet]

mods are tag pr and they run bots in subreddits

[storm warren]

only hybecels

njz gets a lot of support on their subs like r/newjeans and r/njz

[dull geyser]

in literally any other kpop sub though 😭😭

[storm warren]

kpop subs are lost cause

[dull geyser]

kpop uncensored is among the worst fs

[storm warren]

they are overrun by hybecels and "everyone is against my oppas" crowd

[dull geyser]

wait guys verdict is predicted to be in october right

[storm warren]

confirmed by court

oct 30

[dull geyser]

can ador delay it

[storm warren]

no, its final. i think court heard everything they needed to hear. after mediation, there is genuinely nothing left

[dull geyser]

okk ty

[cinder narwhal]

late Nov concert in Korea... my wallet is ready

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1952303653219598776

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

In Korea the 125 Article of the Crim Procedure Act states that you aren't allowed to conduct a search and seize before sunrise - after sunset to protect individual rights and stop abuse of power

But for HYBE's warrant, it bypasses it.. They must have done something really bad..

X · Aug 4, 2025, 9:40 AM

[copper jetty]

Expect horror jeans incoming!!!

[copper current]

most of reddit big kpop forum were created by Hybe and Hybe bots. They use reddit to spread misinformation, don't go there

[analog depot]

It’s nearly been a year- 3 months until it’s been a year since that KGMA performance ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[marsh roost]

With all the Hybe problems, looks like the whole ador debacle was a blessing in disguise, allowing the girls to jump out of a sinking ship

[heady gate]

Shareholders on July 27, 2025 ---> now. HYBE shareholders have changed a lot in the past 4 weeks.

[storm warren]

is it because they had debt

and those investment firms were promised shares if hybe couldnt repay or something like that.

[short laurel]

i m disappointed there's not enough outrage from pension service. if bang is found guilty which is looks like. and employees who obviously were found guilty, they scammed not just the shareholders but the citizens.

[heady gate]

HYBE's earning report on Aug 6.

[fallow forge]

A concert for who

[feral tapir]

newjeans??

[fleet nebula]

the copium is strong with these ones

[cinder narwhal]

newjeans is dead long live njz

[fallow forge]

Wait so are they having a concert YALL ARE CONFUSING ME?

[bronze talon]

most likely not
people are coping that they are gonna be free from hybe (most likely to happen (im confident its happening)) in late october just to be on a big concert for lots of artists in korea in late november, like i said probably not happening
dont be fooled

if its happening, would be GIGA insane

[tawdry vessel]

bunnies camp 3 this december

[cinder narwhal]

correction it's gonna be their own concert. bunnies camp 3.
THEN they'll go on all the holiday shows on December

I'm like bane but with copium

[hoary frost]

I love how confident we are

[clear hill]

Major copium is the day of October 30 we finally get nj1. Like I genuinely believe we will get that one day. I refuse to believe mhj just gave us a small cut of the song for shits and giggles. We WILL. Get nj1.

[frozen granite]

This isn’t NJZ related, but did HYBE ever say that one group with three letters mention they were making a tribute for Michael Jackson?

(I’m not trying to name drop any group, im sure a few will
know who & what I’m talking about) i hear twitter is making a fuzz about it

[heady gate]

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/the-5-most-important-things-to-know-about-hybe-the-music-company-that-just-wont-stay-out-of-the-headlines/

It is a long article. Enjoy

[cinder narwhal]

just saw tweets denying this. from mj estate and from bts

[frozen granite]

Interesting I wonder where the rumor came from

[short laurel]

I also saw a twt claiming mj's studio saying it's true. So is there a conflict in teams who handle his matters? It's a common story in Hollywood afterall

[buoyant hamlet]

prob leaked from big hit just to appease investors

then when MJs estate didnt want to do it they denied it

[short laurel]

Well now everyone knows bts having a cb so they got what they wanted.

[copper jetty]

[short laurel]

Winning battle but lossing war

[frozen granite]

I rebuke this !!

I need some tokkium

[cosmic belfry]

HYBE made it public and thought MHJ would take it lying down smh

[mild mist]

Your tokkium should be that hybe has 'won' minor victories. The main cases are still to be decided

And that hybe is likely to be found guilty of financial crimes

[cinder narwhal]

TIL this exists
https://sites.google.com/view/nj-transcript-archive

[analog depot]

I want newjeans to be performing when they want but I hope the girls take some more time to recover from the stress of the situation and have time to celebrate, can’t believe it’s nearly been a year since this horror ❤️‍🩹

[short laurel]

when they want*

[analog depot]

Sorry I meant this but my motion sickness is making me see funny and I’m relying on auto correct

[frozen granite]

August 14th is for a potential settlement correct?

[native anchor]

Yes

Mediation date

[frozen granite]

I wonder if there will be a compromise

[native anchor]

we will see

[bronze talon]

most likely not

[tawdry vessel]

there's a new subreddit called btsnark

i dont agree on some things

but them roasting ratarmys is good read

[tawdry vessel]

[cosmic belfry]

ying and yang

tho i wouldn't want to associate with any of the snark subreddits. always goes too far.

[tawdry vessel]

veryy trueee

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1952894751247655024

Kpop Charts (@kchartsmaster)

Bang Sihyuk has sent an e-mail to HYBE employees amid ongoing investigations:

— “ Hello everyone, this is Bang Sihyuk.

It has been a while since I have written to you all.

In addition to the various situations that have continued since last year, my recent personal matters

X · Aug 6, 2025, 12:49 AM

[waxen musk]

I'll summarise for those who don't want to read this crap:

• Apologises for causing concern
• Explains HYBE was created to improve quality of life for K-pop industry workers
• Tried his best to have a clear conscience
• Believes sometimes his confidence could have been perceived as arrogance
• Past few months have been a painful time for him because he couldn't respond more swiftly
• Has had to be cautious over what he says to his members and artists
• Has spent lots of time abroad to expand the company with artists making comebacks
• WILL BE RETURNING TO KOREA ASAP TO HELP WITH INVESTIGATION
• Has explained everything to authorities before but will explain in detail once again

Aparantly it's HYBE's earning release day today, too.

You don't even need to read that summary by the way. It made me laugh. It's not great.

I'm patiently waiting for the inevitable. I'm being very restraint.

[cosmic belfry]

lol he needs to leave

[old cypress]

it's indeed very vague

[heady gate]

BSH tried to avoid the law enforcement for months. Since the tax authorities open probe into HYBE on July 29, he is willing to return to South Korea. I am shocked.

[old cypress]

he's just a witness in the kakao trial

his assets are in korea, it's impossible for him to hide in the states anyway. It was a non-issue from the beginning

[heady gate]

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/business/companies/20250806/hybe-chairman-bang-to-return-to-korea-for-probe-expresses-regret

Bully would never be submissive unless a bigger bully is above. Who is the bigger bully here? The South Korean tax authorities.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/christinadirkes/status/1952906966315221367 true...

Christina Dirkes 💎 (@christinadirkes)

If he actually cared about his artists, this would have been a resignation letter.

X · Aug 6, 2025, 1:37 AM

[clear hill]

Is it true that katseye broke the record for biggest lollapalooza crowd?😭Even beating newjeans?

Like don’t get me wrong I love katseye but I kinda find it hard to believe lol

[waxen musk]

I don't even know how you measure that. Everyone in the crowd is there for different reasons. But I've not heard anyone claim that anyway.

[clear hill]

I’ve heard ppl claim that they broke the record for the biggest daytime crowd lol

85k I think

[waxen musk]

Cool.
People need to chill when it comes to upcoming records being broken that NewJeans previously had. Stuff like that movie song overtaking.
I think the only think to worry about is how antis just rub it our faces and be annoying arseholes. But people need to chill lol.

[short laurel]

Hybe pr would make it all over media if that was true

[clear hill]

Yeah bc I’ve seen vids of the crowd from newjeans stage and everyone was soooo hyped lol,a lot of ppl left as soon as their stage was done and as much as I love katseye I don’t think they could pull that off 💀I only see blackpink pulling that off tbh

Also I don’t think the crowd was for them I think it was for Sabrina since she was after them LOL

[short laurel]

Most likely.

[cinder narwhal]

sure why not

[waxen musk]

I'm starting to become very out of touch again and don't really realise how big some groups have become.

Well I've always been out of touch but there was a period in the past couple years where I was at least more aware of what was popular in the world lol.

[short laurel]

I believe that u can't really tell how much big someone truely is unless u c their work survive years n remains popular. They might earn huge now but if it's only a moment of popularity, they are essentially nothing more than pr made popular. So i believe we've yet to c if they are truely growing or not.

[waxen musk]

It's why all this talk about NewJeans' popularity and acomplisments being such a huge focus and now that they've been away for long enough for people to start to overtake them or for their numbers to reduce (somewhat), people start getting upset. It's stupid I hate all of it.

[short laurel]

Newjeans remains popular even after long break shows they truely made it.

[waxen musk]

And guess what, people are going to do it all over again when NJZ is coming back and if they can't achieve anywhere near what they did before.

I do kind of wonder how much of NewJeans' previous popularity can automatically move over to NJZ. Of course it will depend on the songs more than anything and there'll definitely be a huge boost from people being curious. I don't worry about it either way, just interesting to think about. But ultimately I really don't like the crazy amount of focus on it.

[short laurel]

They are just from toxic ppl. Their opinion doesn't really matter

[waxen musk]

It doesn't matter, I know. It's just annoying to see people on both sides talking about it non-stop whether you care or not.

[vale grove]

I ult both katseye and njz but to be fair that crowd was a daytime spot, meaning a lot of people were camping out for the other artists who were after which is fair! Katseye did have a record breaking number which is amazing for them but of course that number is inflated by those other attendees!! I do think hypes global groups are the next big thing though, katseye’s second album was SUCH an improvement from their first one (target demographic changed between releases) and honestly feel like them focusing on this achievement is very interesting and very intentional!

Don’t mind me yapping btw I forgot who I meant to tag

[clear hill]

No pun intended lol

[waxen musk]

I didn't even realise lol

[vale grove]

https://tenor.com/view/manon-touch-katseye-touch-touch-touch-touch-katseye-manon-katseye-gif-13550396357536610125

[clear hill]

I only brought it up bc I saw ppl talking about it sorry

[waxen musk]

My messages above also relate to the VMA best K-pop nominees that came out. But yeah getting off topic.

All the MHJ talk and reposting of old interviews and re-debunking everything just reminding me just how wrong I've been to have had any doubts about her in the past. It makes me reconsider how I came to be so cautious in the first place.
Also this BSH stuff just shows how people just don't seem to care and the focus on him seems so minor. The media is messed up. It's hard to know how people truly feel on social media, too. Too many bots muddying reality.

I feel so dissatisfied in not really being able to yap properly about everything as much as I want, like I used to at least. I think the solution is to join in with the yapping on Twitter, and talk and reply to people who I like reading. But I really don't want to spend even more time on Twitter, it's already a nightmare.

[feral tapir]

bro playing victim card + LYING again

when is he going to jail

[flint orbit]

its either minji or dani

[upbeat stream]

Huh?

[feral tapir]

twitter is such a toxic app where everybody is constantly arguing over who's the best or who has the most impact like damn why can't y'all enjoy MUSIC like touch some grass

twitter is filled with the most horrendous human beings

[bronze talon]

Deadass this
Ideg why they care about so many details and stats to justify who's better and who's not
Who has more originality, like you said more impact, a better spotlight or reputation or better members (? Lol)
These people can't get a day off without commenting or quote tweeting some random post that they don't like and which should not get the attention it deserves just to spark more hate between the fandoms a little further. Twitter people are so obsessed to defend their favourite group or member once they see someone disagreeing on the smallest thing ever pretending everyone has to agree what they think, like they're some sort of "only yes" person.

What's really bizarre is that they remember so much shit from some random ass and what they said months or even years ago or search their whole identity to find what they might have done or said differently back then like it would matter.
It's a constant online battle of opinions that will never matter at all. It's such a tiny ass percentage of the fanbase and the worst part? (Or well in this case the best) The idols themselves would never want to do anything with these people or associate on most of what they say.

They will never understand that in the end and what they do and love is music to share and dance to.
But for them it's only about like I said, reputation and stats which is sickening even when it looks good on paper. I bet the girls themselves don't rly care about all that, I mean just look at them now. Taking one of the biggest and difficult steps in their life just to feel better and safer while also working with a team they want.

[cinder narwhal]

who typed that

[raven kelp]

😭

[feral tapir]

yup

their life must be pretty boring

[raven kelp]

https://x.com/shamanjz/status/1952999794076701026

Shamanz MHDHH (@shamanjz)

Shade?🤭

"Where am i going?"

X · Aug 6, 2025, 7:46 AM

[tawdry vessel]

bang pd you are going to prison

[mild mist]

"The king of k-pop fraud"

[hoary frost]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bugs-bunny-bugs-bunny-prayer-prayer-the-bugs-bunny-and-roadrunner-movie-gif-3126974148734512238

[copper jetty]

"my recent personal matters have also been added, and the company and my name are being mentioned in bad news every day."

Calling the possibly biggest IPO fraud in S. Korean history as his "personal matter" is wild.

[mild mist]

So if the fraud is a personal matter, does that mean that he is directly responsible?

[copper jetty]

Damage control. I'm guessing PR told him to distance himself to the corporate so Hybe wouldn't get involved, hence the "personal mATteR" 🥴

This could pass, but it's not just him who got the 1.2T won but also his other associates in bighit and Hybe. So trying to distance himself to the company wouldn't probably work but who knows what'll happen.

[waxen musk]

I misremembered the old ZINEs. Hopefully this was the last ZINE+.

[dawn axle]

can someone update me on what's happening in the court? has njz won yet☹️☹️

[waxen musk]

The main thing you need to care about is a mediation session will be held on August 14 to attempt a settlement. If mediation fails, a final verdict will be delivered on October 30.

[cinder verge]

what happens if newjeans loses? do they just wait for their contract to expire?

[waxen musk]

I assume so, since they are not going back to ADOR, their only option if they lose.

[red thorn]

That means the termination is invalid so logically, pay to leave or stay to work till contract expire
But who knows maybe there's result where partial win/lose for both

[vale grove]

I feel like the partial win loss situation is the mediation

Yes they have mhj, yes they are onstage but there will be many things we aren’t sure abt behind the scenes

[red thorn]

Depends imo, if no agreement at all after mediation then judge can enforce the verdict based their judgement win/lose for a party or partial on both

[cinder narwhal]

njz be released from contract but pay a not so astronomical fee

[polar owl]

Or the judge finds the conduct of Hybe to be undermining the interests of Newjeans, and agrees with MHDHH's lack of trust with fraudor.

[fleet nebula]

[cinder narwhal]

I'm copium but not that copium

[frozen granite]

https://x.com/taro_prediction/status/1946281344046186795?s=46

Zodiac & Tarot Prediction (@Taro_Prediction)

NJZ news soon

X · Jul 18, 2025, 6:50 PM

Tokkium

[cinder narwhal]

speaking of tarot 🥱 slow news day today
https://x.com/daisyarcana/status/1859100535993102778
https://x.com/soulsearchstina/status/1951767804652183672

[subtle matrix]

Been so busy I haven't followed anything at all

Has BSH been arrested yet lol

[cinder narwhal]

no

[short laurel]

he's called to come to korea for investigation.

[red thorn]

I suggest read and enjoy recent bsh letter

[copper jetty]

I'm so surprised, it was an internal email to Hybe employees but it somehow magically was leaked to the media. As if common employees would just post that online what with Hybe's NDAs on their employee contracts.

[tawdry vessel]

what a big fat liar

[copper jetty]

Apparently he lost weight so he's not big or fat now.. just a liar.

[tawdry vessel]

i meant it not physically more like hes a big liar

[copper jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-hide-in-shrubs-hiding-in-bushes-disappear-into-hedges-embarrassed-gif-24183287

[tawdry vessel]

I don't like fatshaming but towards bangpd why not

[waxen musk]

It is less the a week until the mediation date.
I really can't help myself but put myself in ADOR's shoes and I'm always wondering what they would do if they won the case for the contracts and (for now) retain the NewJeans IP. Are they that confident they can "force" the girls to work for them? Or have they finally started to at least (secretly) consider what value any of this holds when the girls don't (and never) return. I just have to imagine their lawyers aren't totally delusional and explore all options, right?
I say all this because if there's no option to get the girls back even if they win, then what's the point. At that point, why not try to maximise any potential final profits maybe from a sort of deal, almost certainly a sum more than what they can achieve on their own without the girls. I know I'm delusional in hoping that ADOR will just offer the girls something that is actually worth considering, but it's just impossible to not wonder what the hell ADOR is thinking if they win, because then what, they've still "lost" without the girls.
Besides, they aren't totally doomed without the girls, they could have a new primary focus with their boy group.
I'm still very happy with how the girls' lawyers did in the final hearing, so I would expect a win, if only it weren't for shady things potentially going on behind the scenes that put fear and doubt into my mind.
All of this is maybe not even worth thinking about considering HYBE's legal issues, who knows how that will affect things. But despite always reading sensational theories about how HYBE will crumble into nothing, I'm a lot more reserved in my expecations for major change.

[hollow shore]

If ADOR wins, I think ADOR would do what Attrakt did. Recruit some other girls to form a group and just use the New Jeans name and re-record their songs. Like the new Fifty Fifty.

[copper jetty]

Idk if they can do that without at least one of the original members.. we'll see how it goes but i don't think there's gonna be a successful mediation.

7 more days to go ig.

[timber shell]

6 days left in KST currently

[cinder narwhal]

win or lose they could always do that. they own the name

[heady gate]

ADOR own the master, but they don't own the rights. It needs the songwriters' approval.

[empty halo]

also if im not wrong atleast ONE member of fifty fifty stayed w attrakt and formed the new group. just finding 5 new random girls and making them the new "newjeans" is a stupid idea, theyll recieve massive backlash for being completely unoriginal and theyll have 0 brand of their own

HYBE may be evil but theyre not stupid

[cinder narwhal]

they'll have hybecels to support them
that's still money

[short laurel]

It's a dumbest of dumb idea for them to keep using newjeans beand name without any original members. Regardless of how much support hybecels give them, general public will not support it. Especially after all this drama.

N hybecels have not enough time to earn money to buy stuff from all of hybe blessed groups. They spend all the time on hating kids online afterall. There won't be enough actual support for fake newjeans If ador went with it.

[clear hill]

Tbh they could never pull that off 😭 the group would disband bc of the amount of hate they get. I mean think about the hate illit members have been getting but triple that by 10000x

[polar owl]

Imo, Attrakt was able to recruit new members and retain the group name because the brand was still seen as the agency’s creation and not tied to the individual identities of the original members.

NewJeans is inseparable from both Min Hee Jin and the original lineup - the concept, aesthetic, and success are widely perceived as her brainchild.

[clear hill]

Exactly

[ashen charm]

ador could redebut a gg and call them newjeans if they wanted to but since ador still believes njz is under them they havent

[storm warren]

they cant without having one member

attrakt managed to do it bc keena stayed

[upbeat stream]

I read somewhere that a company can't replace the group entirely. It's from the same supreme court case that njz is trying to use to win

Something along the lines of, "An artists' exclusive activites cannot be performed by someone else"

Also trying to look back, I couldn't find a single example of a whole group getting replaced in one go

[upbeat stream]

yeah it's very telling that they terminated the contract the moment Keena returned

[short laurel]

yea non in 1 go. but there are groups who had all their line up change over time member at a time. but with mutual separation

[vale grove]

I think one example of this would be black pearl rania known now today as black swan. Whole line up change, then it just got to a point where they were like, okay I guess we can just change the name too 😭

[short laurel]

brave girls now bb girls. another example

[cinder narwhal]

that's more newjeans to njz kinda deal

the members made bb girls under a different agency

[mild mist]

Blackswan also didn't change the full lineup in one go, always at least one continuing

[upbeat stream]

Yeah, I was just gonna say. I don't know much about them but going by their timeline on wikipedia, they never changed the whole lineup at once

[short laurel]

yea. i said member at a time.

[empty halo]

how many hybecels are there who'd be willing to stream njz music in a different font? when we're on apps like twt or reddit the amount of hybecels seems exaggerated. a VAST majority of people would prefer to just stream the old music.

[empty halo]

and we think that the army of hybecels is massive but it isnt. not all armies, fearnots or glits despise nwjns ENOUGH to stream their music just with different vocals

[empty halo]

also 1 member stayed, not a lot but it's something

[short laurel]

most we c are bots payed by haters and hybe or just people who come just to hate on women.

[cinder narwhal]

you also overstate how much people actually care

average listener just listens to the music they don't really dive into who sings it

[mild mist]

There's also the herd, people who just want to agree what the popular opinion is (in that community)

[short laurel]

but everyone would be easily able to tell by voice that group is different just under same name.

[upbeat stream]

It's hypothetical, I don't think ador can do it even if they want to

[empty halo]

true

[empty halo]

and these average people would rather listen to the original newjeans songs sung by the voices theyre familiar w over some new versions with new voices

either ways its not happening

[upbeat stream]

Somebody by the surname 엄 (Eom) submitted a petition to the court today. I don't know anyone significant of that surname and there hasn't been any petition prior to this in the lawsuit

[red thorn]

Petition for what

[upbeat stream]

No idea

I'm assuming the court does not accept most petitions since there haven't been any in such a high-profile public case. So the fact that this shows up on the court website means its likely important, we just don't know how

[cinder narwhal]

only eum i know
https://www.instagram.com/o_eum

[upbeat stream]

Oh right, her insta is how I learned about jeanzforfree

[red thorn]

Dude I just followed her just now bc on my suggestion and I know she's bubblegum director, I didn't realize the connection with this petition context

[storm warren]

she is also right now and new jeans director. njz is very close to her and dongle shin

[hushed whale]

but her name is 이영음 so this Eom is not her ig?

[red thorn]

I will always remember dongle shin is like one of us, she watched and comment on complexcon ig live lol

[storm warren]

can we tell from which side it is

[upbeat stream]

No, it seems to be a 3rd party petition

[storm warren]

could it be petition that hybecels were gathering on dc inside? other options are from those 5 organizations that will blablabla about protecting kpop industry.

[upbeat stream]

Yeah, I hope it's not those KMCA bitches

[mild mist]

Do we know the petition text?

[orchid field]

[snow furnace]

100% off then resell

[orchid field]

I’m not giving hybe anymore money

[hollow sorrel]

maybe it’s

[mild mist]

I've heard that it's a good investment

[red thorn]

If true then it's likely ador's side petition

[hushed whale]

hooyoung left ador long time ago tho, around after get up iirc

[red thorn]

Really? So she did involved in Ador 2025 audition as freelance

[grizzled summit]

Hii

Are we sure that on the mediation, if ador agrees to reinstate the old ador, will the girls return then??

[vale grove]

I mean I think the only people who know that are the girls themselves

[storm warren]

They won't agree to it lol

Like there is not even 0.1% chance of it

[zealous helm]

that would prob involve bringing back mhj and theres no chance they would put her back

[copper jetty]

Even if Hybe does agree to it idk if mhj will come back. Whatever Hybe did last April, there's no guarantee that it's never going to happen again if mhj and the girls come back.

[heady gate]

Simple answer. If your boss and upper management bully u, would u enjoy to returning to work?

[heady gate]

what is on Aug 8?

[upbeat stream]

#1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1754652816:f>

from baron_199

Somebody by the surname 엄 (Eom) submitted a petition to the court today. I don't know anyone significant of that surname and there hasn't been any petition prior to this in the lawsuit
[Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[cinder narwhal]

from the last hearing, yes that's what the members lawyers said.

[red thorn]

https://x.com/Neill_yj/status/1953812285488771516

녤 (@Neill_yj)

시청자 청원 링크:
https://t.co/1x9PSMsg8p

8/8 성공예감 이대호입니다 라디오 방송 및 기사에서 이현지 패널이 뉴진스 재판 사항 및 활동 관련 완전한 거짓을 방송한 부분에 대한 KBS 시청자 청원입니다.
리트윗, 공유, 동의로 정정요청 및 재발방지 대책을 요구합시다

...

X · Aug 8, 2025, 1:35 PM

[mild mist]

Which 'official tracks' would those be, mr Lee?

[lucid yarrow]

the fake lame scammer ones

wish they just called fan channel instead trying to impersonated them sad

[short laurel]

https://x.com/hahagatung/status/1953835573124509817?t=gkJ-p2NHgRniKSOOeaT6iw&s=19
Translation

할말 (@hahagatung)

ENG ) If you are using an iPhone, you can log in with your Apple ID.

KBS Audience Petition Link:
https://t.co/2IjLB0u2da…

This is a KBS audience petition regarding panelist Lee Hyun-ji’s broadcast of completely false statements about NewJeans’ lawsuit and activities on the

X · Aug 8, 2025, 3:07 PM

N we can sign it too guys! Gmail worked

[cinder narwhal]

*x https://x.com/Splias/status/1953944442018443625 -c

[harsh dove]

@Splias <t:1754691632:d>

A message to Knetz please respect newjeans legacy, respect ditto

[cinder narwhal]

cringe level 1000 😭

this is what we make fun of armys for 😭

[short laurel]

Seriously. Ppl need to stop give a f about these

[upbeat stream]

Like we have bigger things to worry about 😭

Records are meant to be broken

[heady gate]

Correct. In fact, I want it to reach 1000 PAK.

[clear hill]

Not me thinking it was serious LOL

I get the intent behind it and i think newjeans definitely deserve that honourary title from ditto but yea there’s bigger issues at hand 😭

[heady gate]

What is the main objective of the Exclusive contract validation trial mediation? NJ are not going back to HYBE. What is the point on Aug 14?

[cinder narwhal]

what

[short laurel]

I hope that's poor sarcasm rich1

[heady gate]

oops I missed one important word

[short laurel]

😂😭

[heady gate]

seriously, what is the objective on Aug 14?

[cinder narwhal]

that's not the only possible route they could settle on

they could settle on ador terminating the contract but the girls pay an amount

broaden your horizons

[red thorn]

Speaking of, bc there's some parallel with KG vs jyp usa, it ended apparently settled through mediation, both agreed to parted ways
People still wondering what kind of settlements

[red thorn]

Oh lia lia

[short laurel]

Ooh. Ofc it's lia

[polar owl]

14th Aug should be the day where NJZ becomes independent - then I will truly celebrate the 15th holiday.

[ashen charm]

I LOVE HYBE

[short laurel]

50% off on products they already charge at 10 tiems to cost ? nice ig

[buoyant hamlet]

fuck hybe

[raven kelp]

D-5

[grizzled summit]

But the problem is we're letting fictional groups get more popular than actual deserving groups who make very good tracks I think that's the problem with huntrix

[tawdry vessel]

hence why its not a problem for me cause its just a fictional group

and its a good song

[grizzled summit]

ditto was made of hard work and whoever was behind that work would get disappointed if a fictional group who debuted online just a month ago surpasses ditto within a month

[tawdry vessel]

its not that deep

just enjoy music

[tawdry vessel]

hello bang pd 👋

[empty halo]

KG SETTLED?? thats good

shes free

[ashen charm]

https://tenor.com/view/minji-sleeping-minji-reaction-minji-newjeans-newjeans-reaction-minji-gf-gif-9780223732731059534

[short laurel]

as if that matters. just respect the fact that ditto made it that high with it's own strength when majority up there are with high advertisement and payolas.

if song is good, regardless of if it was made my a fictional gorup or real group. the credit for it's success if hit highs goes to real artists behind. i m sure we know who the real singers are. it's not made with AI afterall.

[red thorn]

Yeah, she deleted all her statement stories on her IG, settle for good I guess
I'm sure you can find source on some news outlets
That's kinda explain the group rebrand release

[red thorn]

Yes in the end of the day it's about song/creation that reach people

[grizzled summit]

well you wouldnt get it if you arent an artist

[cinder narwhal]

real people made the song 😭

do you not like plave too

[short laurel]

just what are u trying to say here ?

[empty halo]

i heard a lot of people say they're going back to the company that abused them but if they're rebranding and willing to redebut after all they went through they obviously negotiated w the company and have better safety and terms protecting them now, im happy for them

what would a settlement bw nwjns and ador look like? would ador be willing to give them the name and let them go if mhdhh paid them or would it probably involve more? im assuming the latter

[feral tapir]

if they go back it's gonna be worse than before bro

[empty halo]

1 of the members literally left tho which means the 4 in the group rn probably had the option to leave too

[feral tapir]

i'm not updated about all the stuff going on sorry, who left?

[empty halo]

well KG left first, there were 5 members left. 1 of them left on good terms with JYP. 4 members that were left ➡️ stayed and rebranded as girlset. vcha is dead now basically

all 4 opened their private instagram accounts and the concept for their new group looks more girl crush-y

[feral tapir]

oh i thought you meant a newjeans member😭

[empty halo]

no girl im talking about vcha/girlset 😭

[short laurel]

all 5 together in njz case xD

[feral tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-heaven-keanu-reeves-constantine-ascending-to-heaven-gif-11437079898090715826

[hollow sorrel]

who are lee daeho and lee hyunji???

[red thorn]

#1231839760759263232 message

[old cypress]

why do tokkis always use chatgpt to write

everytime i see a chatgpt essay it's coming from a tokki lol

[cinder narwhal]

yappers

[raven kelp]

i implore you

[copper jetty]

All music on kpop demon hunter and even the movie is made of hard work too. Even though it's a fictional group there's also a team who wrote and produced the music and people who drew and animated the videos.
You're saying ditto was made of hard work but you're also invalidating the hard work of others.

Records are made to be broken.

[short laurel]

and by real humans. not AI. important point to add these days. also singers too

[bronze talon]

Wasn't it sung by real humans?

[copper jetty]

I follow tokkis who was on the kpop demon hunter animation team... I was so happy to see some of the newjeans arts they drew.

[copper jetty]

Yes.

[grizzled summit]

Yuh you're correct but I was replying to the person who diminished ditto's creative and integritive hard work that's all. Even I love kdh

[tawdry vessel]

songs were catchy

but the movie felt like it was writtern by a kpop twitter stan

[mild mist]

it probably was

[copper jetty]

I mean yeah but the music are bangers.

[midnight yarrow]

There is probably nobody on planet Earth that talks about NJ's charting and metrics more than me. Bunnies crashing out over Golden need to stop embarrassing themselves and the fandom. We've got much bigger fish to fry these next 3 months. I would also rather see Ditto lose the record to HUNTR/X than one of NJ's contemporaries.

Also, Ditto was legitimately griefed by OMG, since it took #1 on YT Music for 2 weeks. Ditto lost two weeks of PAK hours as a result. Suffering from success.

[waxen musk]

It is embarrassing to see Tokki's behaviour.

It's a shame to not have a song that I genuinely love and get excited about overtake the song that's the whole reason I'm here still supporting NewJeans.

I was thinking that yap from Lia was a parody or joke but clearly enough people see it as serious that maybe I was wrong about that.

[upbeat stream]

I'm a chart nerd, I'm even in the totc server. I keep track of all their records. If the last one year hadn't happened, I would've been mildly annoyed at their PAK record being broken. But now? I don't care at all

[waxen musk]

totc?

[upbeat stream]

Plus, they have other records that are pretty much impossible to break. PAK record was never that impossible, all it needed was one huge hit with weak competition

[upbeat stream]

Talk of the charts

[waxen musk]

All I know is Ditto has been around for years and is still beloved and charting.
Can the same be said about Golden? Only time will tell. I have suspicions people will move on fairly quickly.

Lasting power is more important imo

[waxen musk]

Tbf I've been more embarrassed recently over some viral video that GLITTs are arguing about. I think people just like to fight online.

[upbeat stream]

Newjeans hold one of the most insane records: They held the top 3 for 3 months straight. No one has come even close, with only one other artist (Busker Busker) holding the top 3, but for just 1 month

Ditto, OMG and Hype Boy for January, February and March 2023

[waxen musk]

It’s funny to think I didn’t even understand their insane popularity when I got into them in March 2023 and it wasn’t until Get Up era that I understood what I was witnessing.

[upbeat stream]

Yeah, those were the times, I am a ditto era tokki. I was honestly worried that such ridiculous dominance will wear the public out

[waxen musk]

One of the reasons I dislike this type of focus on charting etc is because of what happened last year. 2024 NewJeans songs weren’t as popular and people aren’t happy right around the time of their releases. But as we later learned after proper contextualisation, they still did insanely well.

[heady gate]

true

[upbeat stream]

In korea at least, they did very well. How Sweet, due to its longevity, looks to be a bigger hit than Super Shy and ETA. But yeah, global numbers were soft

[ashen charm]

take that golden

[waxen musk]

See, I didn’t even know that lol. Perfect example.

[upbeat stream]

Ador's official website ador.world now redirects to adoraudition.world

There's no mention of newjeans on this website, and the redirect shows code 301 (permanent redirect, not temporary)

I hope this is a sign that ador is moving away from njz and will settle with them on the 14th

it's also copyrighted to hybe instead of ador like the old website

[waxen musk]

Don’t get my hopes up lol

But seriously, after my yap from a few days ago, I really don’t know what ADOR plans to do even if they win. All the discussions in here ended up with everyone pondering about them using the NewJeans name but with new girls. I didn’t see anyone else imaginative enough to think of what else they could do if they win.

[bronze talon]

I mean they already said that they were no further plans for them if they would come back to ador in the 3rd hearing

[upbeat stream]

As I said before, I don't think ador can redebut an entirely new group as "newjeans"

Btw, this website change is not new. I checked on the wayback machine, and this might have happened on July 23rd

[clear hill]

I hope ur being sarcastic 😭

[feral tapir]

is that a win

[buoyant hamlet]

👀

[hollow sorrel]

does anyone have a picture of what it was like before?

[buoyant hamlet]

maybe settlement announcement incoming?

[heady gate]

lets find out on Aug 14 and Oct 30

[buoyant hamlet]

i get redirected to adoraudition.world when i try to access it

[buoyant hamlet]

and its a blank page for me

[hollow sorrel]

I mean the fact that they changed the general ADOR domain says enough that they are planning to rebrand the whole agency I think

[feral tapir]

the fact people are gonna audition for ador is already crazy

[upbeat stream]

Idk but someone on twt has this screenshot