NJZ Updates and Discussion

[waxen musk]

Anyway I know the celebrations will eventually come in many ways.

[bronze talon]

woooohooo i love this industry !

[red thorn]

Just like the airport that still wanted prolong NewJeans as model, if girls did the deal they gonna lose their stance and publicly introduced as NewJeans gain, same goes for this anniv, risky

[clear hill]

Yesss I love the overconsumption of overworked and exploited idols woohoooo give me another gg w this concept🤩

[bronze talon]

😍

i just love my fav company
the people are the best !

[waxen musk]

Literal company stans shouldn't exist but do

There's really a lack of hope when there are people supporting the very entities preventing things from being way better than they could ever imagine

And I'm not just talking about K-pop

I need to leave this is getting too depressing

[bronze talon]

i hate to make this comparison but the principle should be applied in both ways
i dont love nvidia but i like their product i bought. same should and goes with ador. i dont rly care who it is behind the scenes (even if its their work/product) i only care for the product. in this case newjeans and since its humans its the people i care for and love

idek if its a good comparison but i think you get the point lol

[waxen musk]

It's always the individuals you care about and not the company as a whole. But when Ador was full of so many people you could name and mention loving their work, that's what made it great. You can't say that about a lot of companies in this world, unless they're like an indie game studio or small film team.

[bronze talon]

ye ofc with humans or a team or people its diff bc people are not products
and if the people in the spotlight talk good about the people behind the scenes ofc youll have respect for those as well

[waxen musk]

Like I will now follow and be interested in a the future work of a lot of people, no matter where they end up (except fake Ador lol), after learning about the artists involved, dancers, producers, etc. from previous Ador.

Anyway I make it sound like the future is bleak, but as usual I'm still here because I'm hopeful for something a lot brighter. Something that can replicate the joy I have experienced before.

[ashen charm]

so thev rumored m/v was old supeshy

[cinder narwhal]

what's that about

[frozen granite]

What’s going on?

[waxen musk]

Just updates going on behind the scenes before the upcoming hearing.

[frozen granite]

When is it ?

[waxen musk]

July 24

*x -c https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1947469916254441827

[harsh dove]

@MinotaurKard <t:1753147984:d>

This is the actual timeline events of what has been happening, the articles are posted days later. Things have moved at a much rapid pace after the head of SSDPO has left the office. The police are definitely very close to an arrest warrant.

[onyx hearth]

Is that king pin

[clear hill]

I have a theory that Hybe purposefully kicks out 1 member out of ggs to create negative press for traffic. I’m seeing a pattern w lesserafim,illit and katseye. The whole garam situation was weird in itself bc they kicked her out even though the bullying scandal turned out to be false. Yongseo left and now I’m seeing a lot of mistreatment on Manons end. Hm...

[onyx hearth]

YEA MANONNN

literally she is getting mistreated……she’s getting less and less attention by the company EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS AND THEY THINK we wouldn’t notice……. Bfr. Manon is literally the visual of katseye kicking her out would make hybe go into shambles. So messed up what they’re doing

[clear hill]

One can argue that bc illit and katseye were formed through survival shows it’s bound to happen but the fact that they tried to portray yongseo as this “ full of herself cat” and the weird treatment of leaving manon out even though she’s the visual just seems like too much of a coincidence.

[onyx hearth]

Right….. im actually planning to watch that survivor show bc manon was getting picked in before she even became a member….

[clear hill]

Yeah bc if you watched dream academy it was veeery obvious manon and Lara were gonna debut regardless. Their introductions kinda spoiled that. But it seems like she’s not even part of the group sometimes which is funny bc the visual/center member is always supposed to be involved no matter what.

The whole garam situation is just sad bc everyone hated on her and she got bullied sm. Hybe “investigated” on the matters and she ended up leaving the group but it was only after she left that it was exposed to be fake.

[onyx hearth]

Like how are u going to make her the most crucial role for KATSEYE then abandon her like she’s nothing ??? One of the main reasons why ppl even paid attention to kasteye was bc of the diversity and different places each of the girls came from which is rare in the Kpop industry… it really mattered!!! esp to international fans….like were they just using her as biat this whole time or what?😭

[copper jetty]

This whole thing gave me whiplash, cause how did hybe "investigate" and she left the group only for her to be found innocent? If they really did investigate then she should've not been kicked out.

Idk anything about the garam issue BTW but I heard she was proven innocent after. Smh

[simple musk]

Cooldown?

Bruh even here 😔

@waxen carbon and can u tell me about why hybe fired that women heajin i forgot her name 😭😭😭

[clear hill]

Yeah that’s basically what happened. She was hated on so much and there were so many clips of people her and the members and people were trying to paint this picture of her being such a bully. One of them is this clip of her complimenting Sakura and then laughing after and people were trying to say she was being sarcastic. And it all turned out to be fake. So much hate towards her and Hybe did nothing to protect her. Her reputation gone just like that. I feel so bad for garam.

[simple musk]

Garam's hate is so forced

[waxen carbon]

Hybe made fake info abt her being pedophile

[simple musk]

Ohh.... 😭

[waxen carbon]

Now they freed her thankfully let's hope for hybe ceo to go to jail

[clear hill]

They didn’t fire her bc of her being a “pedophile” she was voted off by Hybe execs

[simple musk]

So if she didn't came back newjeans will go?

[clear hill]

She never went to jail what 😭

[simple musk]

But why

[clear hill]

Because of her “trying to seize power over Hybe”. We all know now that it was all a lie

[waxen carbon]

Real also youngseo rn for all day project don't get me wrong i love her but all day project is so overrated if youngseo wasn't there it prob wouldn't be to ngl

[waxen carbon]

All day project would be so dead

[simple musk]

So she got fired
Newjeans got mad
And they we're treat them bad
That's the general story?

[clear hill]

Mhj was voted out by Hybe execs and the court ruled this in her favour. She ended up just leaving the company.

[waxen carbon]

At september idk which they said on YouTube live if they don't bring min hee jin they will leave hybe for 2 weeks

[simple musk]

And?

[waxen carbon]

And then they were so happy cuz they did train for their redebut

And yk what happend
AND I WANNA GO OUT WITH YOU WHERE YOU WANNA FIND THST SPOT JS SIT AND TALK LOOKIN PRETTY FOLLOW ME

[simple musk]

They leaved hybe?I DIDN'T KNOW HELP

[simple musk]

URI DURI NARANHI

[storm warren]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1947505216498094578

1tokki (@juantokki)

There seems to be significant procedural step in the ongoing legal dispute between ADOR and NewJeans. The court has issued a 석명명령 (order for clarification) to both parties, which is unusual and suggests that the court is seeking clearer positions or evidence on specific

X · Jul 22, 2025, 3:53 AM

[copper jetty]

NewJeans planning got stolen by Belift
Mhj sent email as to why??
All media play character assassination for MHJ
Hybe told newjeans they're going on hiatus after tokyo dome
Hanni was told to be ignored by a manager
MHJ got fired
Hybe transferred money from Ador to another sublabel.

[simple musk]

[copper jetty]

Oh I thought you asked for summary

[simple musk]

THNKS tho

[waxen carbon]

Am i the only one who listens to attention 250 remix instrumental

[copper jetty]

Nope

I listen to the instrumentals as well. They're 🔥

[waxen carbon]

Ngl attention remix 250 will always be my fav remix i honestly pefer it more than normal attention ngl

[simple musk]

I AM DOING IT AS A RINGTONE

[waxen carbon]

FR

[copper jetty]

I like cookie FRNK remix.. I sometimes catch myself singing bet you know and yeah yo!!

[waxen carbon]

MY RINGTONE IS HAERIN OMG PART I LOVE HER FOOTWORK SM

[clear hill]

She got fired after she went went public about the whole situation of illit plagiarism. She made complaints about it internally and nothing got done. Then Hybe fired her bc of an illegal audit.

It’s not just about MHJ being fired, they terminated their contract and gave ador 14 days to reply. The mistreatment was due to source music leaking predebut videos of them as minors, Hybe leaking personal info, hybe not doing anything to protect them from malicious comments online, Hybe downplaying their success through pr, Hybe staff just treating the girls esp hanni unfairly, bsh ignoring them in the halls when they’d greet him, etc.

MHJ being replaced was just the icing on the cake. The new ador ceo did nothing to help hanni during the illit cctv ignore her incident. When it was uncovered that the cctv footage on that date was deleted, the new ceo said there’s nothing they can really do. The girls weren’t notified that Mhj was kicked out of ador, it just happened so fast. They were told nothing, nothing was being communicated w them and they said they felt like they were being left out of information.

[simple musk]

TYSM

[copper jetty]

Even Ador's plans for them. Like nothing was communicated to them. How in the hell are the artists gonna perform or go through their schedules without the management not giving them any info?

[clear hill]

There’s also predebut mistreatment, under source music minji was encouraged to drop out, her dorm was filled w bugs, her mom was super worried about her.

Danielle said that during her source music trainee days they had to take photos of every meal they had. They had cctvs in every room as well as the training room. They weren’t allowed on bathroom breaks and if they did they had to ask permission.

And the girls were not secure of debuting. They were told that they were gonna debut as Hybe’s first gg. But due to internal conflicts between bsh and mhj lesserafim debuted first. The parents of newjeans were really worried that they weren’t gonna debut.

[simple musk]

Bruh

[waxen musk]

Sounds like big things will be happening. We will see soon.

[copper jetty]

Also just thought hybe really go back on their word a lot.

They first said they're gonna find Grammy award winning producer and pasted random people like Mark Ronson in the injunction report only for it to be hitchiker.

I mean i love 250, Frnk and Gigi, how in the hell do they think they would replace those producer?

[waxen musk]

It's not often I get to see someone explain the situation from scratch, so it's kind of interesting to read rei's summary. But there's so much more to explain lol.

[copper jetty]

I kinda forgot about the leak but are we forgetting that Ador leaked Hanni's visa status too??

Like fo that's illegal. Hanni should've sued

[clear hill]

After the girls leaving ador and going by NJZ, Hybe has made lots of smear campaigns against the girls.

One of them is the articles talking about hanni’s visa. “Illegal” “alien” and they made sure to mention her Vietnamese name.

They also tried to contact each parent separately to make the girls go against each other by saying they can have a solo debut (to each parent) and made rumours about hyein’s and haerins parent.

at the complexcon performance, people reported being approached by ador staff in disguise basically saying “why did newjeans leave Hybe they should just go back” “don’t you think it’s better if they go back to ador”. Basically trying to paint a different narrative.

[clear hill]

Tbh there’s soooo much to uncover. I’ve missed so much but these are just off the top of my head 😭

[waxen musk]

I know, it's a nightmare getting people up to speed.

I basically fully explained it to one person in detail before. Took about a week of DMs. Not exaggerating.

[clear hill]

Oh and another honourable mention: bsh didn’t want Danielle to debut bc she looked too “western” and didn’t fit an image he had in mind. This doesn’t help his weeb allegations 💀💀

[storm warren]

It seems among 15 questions Sejong asked were also these

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1947494303842111912

🫧 (@catzkang)

At the court hearing on June 5th,

1. NJZ Team wanted to know what the "Exclusive Contract" in the contract really means.
2. NJZ Team asked if there really is an agreement to extend the contract, like HYBE says.
3. NJZ Team wanted to know whether HYBE or ADOR actually has the

X · Jul 22, 2025, 3:09 AM

[copper jetty]

More like Asian fetish.

[clear hill]

Omg same😭Im like the token newjeans truth ambassador for a lot of my friends in kpop circles LOL

[clear hill]

Yea and the nerve for belift to say newjeans are the objects of adult fantasies????? 😭like wtf???

[storm warren]

Court only approved 3, but there is a chance others might be approved when discussed other issues separately

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1947503445906493554

🫧 (@catzkang)

NJZ Team asked the court 15 questions, asking ADOR to explain certain points:

The court agreed to some of these questions:
1. Whether, at the time of signing the exclusive contract, the board of directors decided to delegate everything except the contracting party, duration, and

X · Jul 22, 2025, 3:46 AM

[copper jetty]

Wait did Hybe explain why they didn't forward their meeting notes?

They'll probably say its a industry secret.

[waxen musk]

iirc I think this is what was reported on June 5 after the second hearing

[storm warren]

yeah

it will be interesting to see how ador will respond to these

[copper jetty]

The no. 3 question is kind of a big deal.

[waxen musk]

I don't know why I torture myself reading all this analysis and potential expectations for the upcoming hearing only to (as usual) have things go very differently or nothing happen. 1tokki is expecting a lot from this third hearing.

[clear hill]

Also people keep acting like the girls being so close to mhj is like predatory and grooming behaviour. It’s so weird??? Like imagine being in an industry that is notoriously hell for trainees and idols alike and this one person ACTUALLY has your back. Like we can speculate on their relationship all we want but we can’t lie mhj really did protect them and strive to make them succeed.

[copper jetty]

Eh.. I don't. 1tokki is an optimist. We're just realistic.

[waxen musk]

The thing is... I don't know what being realistic even is. Not really.

[red thorn]

Huh interesting points, is there glitch in the actual contract? Was ador under mhj created unusual contract

[copper jetty]

I think we're just open to all the possibilities that can happen. We learned from the injunction case that what we want might not be what we get, and what we saw happen might not be the same way other people see it.

[waxen musk]

At least it somewhat appears the court is doing what they're supposed to be doing. At least while preparing for this third hearing and their previous comments. Unlike the injunction which seems super fishy after analysis.

[clear hill]

Hybe’s weird system of sub labels creates sooo many loopholes and grey areas. Bc for the last question why were ador documents even obtainable?? Did belift have to contact Hybe first or did a belift staff secretly obtain them?

I seriously don’t get how Hybe even operates

[copper jetty]

They're one when it's a compliment but different and independent when it's a critic

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[clear hill]

It seems like bsh and friends for Hybe and it’s sublabels lol no wonder why they wanted mhj out so bad

[copper jetty]

Yeah. I think that Man doesn't want another producer in the limelight for Hybe. His ego couldn't stand the idea of NewJeans being MHJ's gg and that's why those planning docs got in the hands of his friend. So he could put out a group with his stamp or they wanted to kick MHJ out because of her put options that Hybe couldn't pay because 2023 - 2024 was mostly Hybe's debt maturation.

I really thought hard about why all of this started and this is the only reason it makes sense the way it went what Hybe did. The breach of trust doesn't even make sense to me.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1947505216498094578

1tokki (@juantokki)

There seems to be significant procedural step in the ongoing legal dispute between ADOR and NewJeans. The court has issued a 석명명령 (order for clarification) to both parties, which is unusual and suggests that the court is seeking clearer positions or evidence on specific

X · Jul 22, 2025, 3:53 AM

[waxen musk]

Was posted above but 1tokki lowkey kinda hyping up for things to actually happen lol

I keep seeing estimates from other people fully expecting things to be over by the start of the new year.

[copper jetty]

Wait newjeans no 3 question... wouldn't Ador probably submit MHJ's letters and actions again to protect the girls at the time to prove that the board did their duties?

[cinder narwhal]

no distinction between board before and after mhj era?

[clear hill]

I wonder if the board in charge of newjeans hiatus after how sweet was due to Hybe wanting the other ggs to break the records newjeans would inevitably break.. because mhj came outta teasing nj1 so it couldn’t have been old ador..

[clear hill]

The hiatus seems like a calculated play at preventing newjeans to chart and break records that Hybe wants the first Hybe gg to break. I feel like NJZ’s team could explore this possibility as a counter argument (as well as newjean’s 1st anniversary fanmeet)of ador AND Hybe not looking out for newjeans’ future and success.

[cinder narwhal]

that sounds conspiracy theory ish
but probable who knows

[clear hill]

Yeah, I mean this is all baseless bc there’s not really tangible evidence of Hybe trying to downplay newjeans, like we all know it but the trail of proof just makes us look crazy if we point it out 💀

How I feel lmao

[waxen musk]

HEARING DELAYED

[rain spade]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[waxen musk]

I hate this. 1tokki was getting me unrealistically hopeful. And then BAM delay.

[rain spade]

default judgment if hybe keep delaying it

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-clap-clapping-applause-gif-10184275

[simple musk]

GOOD NIGHT BUNNIES

[waxen musk]

I’m gonna say good night too.

Sleep helps move us towards a better future.

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1947524210936746344?t=5hoGnrudDeb4RsS45kaFww&s=33

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie)

so the ador vs njz hearing is postponed 👀 no new dates have been shared....

X · Jul 22, 2025, 5:08 AM

[raven kelp]

I AHTE THIS SHIT FOR FUCKS SAKKE

[hushed whale]

https://x.com/nekonekoo722/status/1947531667775672580?s=46
not confirmed just speculation

NEKO (@NekoNekoo722)

7월 21일 석명준비명령이 내려진 걸 보면 24일 변론기일은 연기될 가능성이 높지만 전자소송 시스템상 아직 확정된 건 아니니 참고로만 봐주세요🥲

X · Jul 22, 2025, 5:38 AM

[upbeat stream]

Which side requested this?

[rain spade]

Hybe, obvious :lul

[clear hill]

Someone translate this for me pls<3

[copper jetty]

Both could've requested this. The judge wanted things clarified like their arguments and asked for docs and evidences. Both sides or maybe one might not have enough time preparing it.

[clear hill]

Does anyone know which court hearing will finally have testimonies and witnesses?

[copper jetty]

It might be this one since this is the main case.

[hushed whale]

https://n.news.naver.com/article/001/0015522556 lol

bsh soon

[clear hill]

I wonder if the girls are gonna show up

[clear hill]

I want them to just do a full on investigation on Hybe 😩 when will that day come 🙏

[copper jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/hanni-hanni-pham-hanni-cinema-absolute-cinema-njz-gif-9018645222690976995

Lmao

Belift having history of plagiarism and Hybe having history of financial crime.

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1947529586218319994?t=cVZoDpozN3ifjCTnYyCetA&s=19

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie)

#JAILBANGPD news: there's an on-going petition to roll out a class action suit against bang pd.

X · Jul 22, 2025, 5:30 AM

There's a petition for a class action suit against Hybe.

[mild mist]

Insider trading - fun for the whole family!

[storm warren]

lsf former creative director is def one of them

[hushed whale]

ye kim 37yo 🤔

it says current employee too, not former so it's highly likely him

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1947544796249395217?t=f8G9bqiFN8A9q6QIZPpEwA&s=19

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

apparently the employee at source who was found guilty today over insider trading is a certain famous creative director who wrote a petition against mhj

X · Jul 22, 2025, 6:30 AM

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1947545613589221403?t=7n5vy1T0C0tGikz4FBWChQ&s=19

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

@722whp i dont know much about the employee but
a k fan informed me apparently its been known for a while now
https://t.co/TAJm2nU5C3
his age also seems to match
his last name is kim and his first name starts with s

X · Jul 22, 2025, 6:33 AM

[storm warren]

[copper jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-entertained-gif-2997471024266002252

[hollow sorrel]

a clarification order issued by the court is usually towards the end of the lawsuit so the lawsuit could end in 2-3 months guys

[feral tapir]

are we winning

[tiny peak]

these scriptwriters are insane. after all the false accusations of "embezzlement" who ends up going to jail in the end

[copper jetty]

Also, how does a creative director from source know that their biggest boy group is going on hiatus? Isn't that supposed to be confidential from bighit??

[storm warren]

he worked in bighit

he was bts/txt creative director before being transferred to source prior lsf debut

so he was in bh when enlistment was announced and had information. he is also close friend of bts and og bighit employee

[copper jetty]

didn't know he was in bighit when it was announced. That's why. Thanks for clearing that up for me

[storm warren]

np

[cinder narwhal]

he's in the inner circle

[storm warren]

hybe transferred bighit employees to their other labels to have their own ppl in those labels

[copper jetty]

are the other 2 also in bighit before?

[storm warren]

most likely yes

[copper jetty]

*x https://x.com/juantokki/status/1947558922975347075 -c

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1753169205:d>

Bang Si-hyuk Faces Class Action Lawsuit: “HYBE May Be Subject to Delisting”
https://m.entertain.naver.com/home/article/144/0001055303
Reporter Lee Sun-myung

“Class Action Law Applicable… Recruiting More Than 50 Plaintiffs”

A class action lawsuit is being initiated over allegations of fraudulent and unfair trading involving HYBE Chairman Bang Si-hyuk.

On July 22, Law Firm Rojipsa announced its plan for legal action regarding HYBE (Bang Si-hyuk)’s fraudulent and unfair trading behavior, and began recruiting plaintiffs.

Attorney Lee Jeong-yeop, the representative of Law Firm Rojipsa, stated: “We plan to proceed with a class action lawsuit against Bang Si-hyuk, chairman of HYBE, and related fund executives,”adding, “We believe this case falls under the Class Action Act, and we will move forward once we have gathered at least 50 plaintiffs.”

He also noted; “While unlikely, there is a possibility of HYBE being delisted. If that happens, ordinary shareholders could suffer enormous losses,”and emphasized, “This is a very serious issue that could subject HYBE to a delisting review.”

Lee added, “To ensure a healthy capital market, our firm Rojipsa will take the lead in moving forward with this class action lawsuit.”

Currently, Bang Si-hyuk has been formally accused by financial authorities of engaging in fraudulent and unfair trading.

The Securities and Futures Commission (SFC) held a regular meeting on July 16 and decided to report Bang and former HYBE executives to prosecutors for violating the Capital Markets Act.

It was reported that during the investigation, the Financial Services Commission (FSC) expressed strong confidence in proving Bang’s misconduct.

The allegations center on the claim that before HYBE’s IPO, Bang deceived investors and venture capitalists, saying there were no IPO plans, and instead sold shares to a private equity fund (PEF) established by an acquaintance.

Bang allegedly signed

[upbeat stream]

I read somewhere that witness testimonials were scheduled for August. Idk if that's still the case with the postponement of this hearing

[copper jetty]

is it confirmed already? They said it was just speculation 2 hours ago since the court hasn't posted a change on the date yet

[hollow sorrel]

The hearing hasn’t been postponed yet it’s just speculation

[copper jetty]

where did this "postpone" come from anyway?

[hollow sorrel]

the clarification order usually gives the sides 1-2 or even more weeks to clarify their points and some people on twitter theorized that it MIGHT delay the hearing (but their tweet even said it’s not confirmed) so everyone just took it as “the hearing is delayed”

[storm warren]

oh...

hope its not delayed then

[mild mist]

Don't threaten me with a good time

[mild mist]

'some dude' on twitter I think

[storm warren]

https://x.com/nekonekoo722/status/1947524762940674540

NEKO (@NekoNekoo722)

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X · Jul 22, 2025, 5:11 AM

so its not "official" but there is possibility due to clarification order

[tiny peak]

you would think the lawyers have more important things to worry about now, like massive fines and prison time, but hey go ahead and harass innocent girls

[copper jetty]

It's only a petition. We'll see what happens with it

[feral tapir]

so that's positive for us right

[copper jetty]

if it goes through yes. I wonder how bighit will handle this. Isn't he still employed on bighit?

[feral tapir]

i have no idea

[cinder narwhal]

there's a lot of lawyers in the world sadly

[feral tapir]

lawyers run after money most likely so they don't really care

[cinder narwhal]

yup they're working just like anyone else

[feral tapir]

yeah

[empty halo]

and can I just say, the thing they were complaining about wasn't even that big of a deal. she missed a few sessions bc she was injured or sick. the kpop trainee system is brutal and bad, why are you blaming manon for taking care of herself and NOT going along w the kpop standard of "train even while sick or injured" ??? she did nothing wrong

[old cypress]

While the Manon thing is sus, this take makes zero sense honestly. Kicking a member out is always a net negative

[copper jetty]

this is weird, and it doesn't only apply to kpop but also in the real world. Those big companies don't care about one employee. If someone is sick then they should stay home and not be a burden more to other people who works.
This applies not only on this instance but on others too.

[orchid field]

*x -c https://x.com/greyauro/status/1947570795179602248?s=46&t=FGOk5JcS6vsxMTTizzNPiQ

[harsh dove]

@greyauro <t:1753172036:d>

HYBE bots is working hard 🤪

[copper jetty]

Most of them created July 2025

Tag PR working very hard at creating new accounts huh.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1947546196970770907

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

the court found records of such conversations taken place
"before the (bts) hiatus video is released to the public, we should quickly sell our stocks" and did not accept the statements that the defendants have made to why they sold the stocks

source https://t.co/TAJm2nU5C3

X · Jul 22, 2025, 6:36 AM

[copper jetty]

also i didn't recognize who Source CD was cause only the name and initials were mentioned until i searched. Didn't know he was the creepy guy.

[craggy skiff]

*x -c https://x.com/greyauro/status/1947570795179602248

[harsh dove]

@greyauro <t:1753172036:d>

HYBE bots is working hard 🤪

[empty halo]

and yet people act as if she punched a dance instructor, did nothing and slept the entire competition smh

[copper jetty]

*x https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1947296647911735751?t=ktymMJbR7hlRjuzLWR_Bxw&s=19 -c

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie)

the only thing hybe ever liked about newjeans was their revenue. they liked it so much that they siphoned the money to a sketchy gaming company. 😒

X · Jul 21, 2025, 2:04 PM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1947296647911735751 does not contain any media!

[copper jetty]

📠

[tawdry vessel]

greed

prison time

[waxen musk]

A lot happened after I went to sleep. First off, just so I can update the pinned schedule, is the hearing on the 24th delayed or not?

[fluid ravine]

guys im lost, what happened and why are some people celebrating?

[hollow sorrel]

we don't know yet, we should see soon

[copper jetty]

it's NewJeans 3rd anniversary

that maybe why people are celebrating.

[fluid ravine]

its not about that lol, its something about hybe that came out today

i marked wrong srry

[fierce cloak]

it seems the 3rd trial date didnt really change tho?

[upbeat stream]

Yeah I was wondering why the court website still shows the 3rd hearing happening as scheduled

When people on twitter said it's postponed. I thought perhaps it's slow to display changes

[fierce cloak]

i think they just speculate so, there wasnt any source confirm it, other than the judge requested both side to submit more information?
Which with a lot of recent changing news like MHJ got non-guilty clear, Hybe/ Bang is investigated/ arrested => it shift the debate for sure

[upbeat stream]

I feel like if you're speculating, you shouldn't say "has been postponed". Or at least that's what grok translation says about this tweet which started all the speculation:
https://x.com/NekoNekoo722/status/1947524762940674540?t=n_HC8owFKB69IHi300vQaQ&s=19

[copper jetty]

oh that. Well maybe related to this. *x https://x.com/juantokki/status/1947556779531112606 -c

1tokki (@juantokki)

HYBE Family… 🏠

HYBE Founder and Chairman Bang Si-hyuk:
Alleged securities fraud during HYBE’s 2020 IPO… misleading early investors, secret profit-sharing deals (~₩400 billion)

Source Music, BigHit, and Belift Lab employees:
Insider trading. They sold HYBE shares before

X · Jul 22, 2025, 7:18 AM

[fluid ravine]

my god, hybe is really trash

[waxen musk]

Is anyone innocent in that company?

Hopefully the artists are at least innocent.

[stone grotto]

MHJ gotta be feeling real good these days lol

[fierce cloak]

i guess groups like SVT is innocent, while BTS likely to be victim of abuse/ exploited, but they also got into the stain of Hybe, similar for LSRFM & Illit, they may not actively do anything harm, but the people around them are all corrupted

[fluid ravine]

i believe that too, the artists there are surrounded by bad people

[stone grotto]

I know there’s corruption everywhere but man, South Korea seems to have a lot of it. It’s even in a lot of their movies and shows

[fierce cloak]

like i dont deny any of their hardwork, i do believe most of them just wanna follow their passion with dignity. But who would know what shady activities that corrupted people may got them involve to, or even intentionally do it to blackmailing, abuse, exploit the artists

NJZ get out quickly because they recognize the red flags and they had MHJ protection before, so when she was gone, they knew they will be the next victim of abuse

[short laurel]

What a good news in anniversary. 3 ppl from the 3 companies we hate. But sentence is short..

[fierce cloak]

what's their punishment?

[fluid ravine]

thats why I also think that njz should be an example, if we see some reports from veteran idols, we can see how hard it is to be an idol and how the company puts pressure on them

[stone grotto]

Suspended prison sentence

[short laurel]

1 git 10 months, other 2 got 6 months n some fines. Atleast that's what i read earlier today but pls confirm it. I came here for confirmation

[fierce cloak]

yeah majority idols only fight when it's too late, or they dont have money & capability to fight. NJZ in unique case where they have resources & team to fight for them before things go badly

[copper jetty]

can i just say that it's actually wild that Hybe has employees with a pattern of doing this. Exploiting their insider knowledge to scam the stocks. It's like they know they're gonna be punished lightly and/or they're gonna get away with it.

I don't know how they have the guts but I'm speculating it's because of Hybe's "top company" where government isn't likely to audit them.

[short laurel]

When they removing that status

[copper jetty]

idk when. or if it's likely to be removed.

[short laurel]

So many case n so much drama n yet thry top company, says about how much bad other companies might be

[fierce cloak]

with the team from police & prosecutor I think they are doing it seriously with Bang. It seems for other cases of chaebol, they usually punished lightly. But since Bang related too much to scam National Pension, too arrogant & agressive & tight to a whole network of corruption, i think he wont able to get away easily. Hybe may still survive because they make money + cultural influence, but will be restructured a lot

[stone grotto]

I wonder what else is going to come into light

The ball is in MHJ and the girls’ court now

[fierce cloak]

I'm looking forward MHJ & NJZ counter sue and get their money. Which can take a while, but that's the biggest wins for them

[heady gate]

July 24 - ADOR vs MHDHH: Exclusive contract validation trial 3rd hearing

[fluid ravine]

i really hope everything works out for njz, but i also don't wish bad things on other groups
the artists are just following their dreams, and i hope the only ones punished are the people who are truly at fault (if the artists are at fault, they will be punished)
im someone who was introduced to kpop through njz, but i really wish the best for all the artists, especially the girls from illit, its not their fault that they're manipulated and used as puppets by hybe's trash

[empty halo]

https://x.com/allkpop/status/1947616504054485386?t=W-1_HP691y-1dCReW-NEZQ&s=19

allkpop (@allkpop)

#BangSiHyuk sued by investors, HYBE could face delisting
https://t.co/a1T0IYqm5h

X · Jul 22, 2025, 11:15 AM

[fierce cloak]

groups like svt, txt, lsrfm most likely will be fine because they are most established. But illit barely has a career. Ive witnessed plenty groups and idols fade away, so illit fate is not very bright ngl

the way to measure is if they have hardcore fandom & public recognition or not. Which usually bg rely on fandom because in general bg are not very appeal to public, while gg must have both public & fandom support. Many gg only has public success but not fandom -> eventually disband. Very few top groups has both public & fandom -> longevity. Illit has none. They has some 'fans' but those are just token for drama, too immature too. Whatever they brag about achievement are not matter at all. Kpoppies nowadays obsessed about vanity metrics but those things dont translate to true success

Lsrfm lost public but they have fandom, especially solo members so they eventually will disband but still around

it's the cycle of kpop, repeat so many times, just wait a few years and we will see

[stone grotto]

Oh I thought NJZ vs Ador was originally the 24th. Wasn’t it rescheduled again?

[fierce cloak]

people just speculate, due to it seems the judge requires both sides to submit more information. No official announcement of reschedule yet

[clear hill]

Fine and a couple months in jail lol

[frozen granite]

Was the hearing postponed ?

[upbeat stream]

No, that was just speculation

[frozen granite]

Ok thank god

[copper jetty]

*x https://x.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1947693307879968958?t=vsU8yORXp-Xwi_R267T07A&s=19

[harsh dove]

@sheepymcsheepy <t:1753201245:d>

[copper jetty]

It seems that Bang received advice from the best law firm (K&C?).

Lmao... I wonder who and what companies are gonna be implicated in these.

K&C next or the NPF? Or maybe government officials?

[fierce cloak]

would be fun if they investigate K&C

[copper jetty]

Atp it seems that the s. Korean government really does need to investigate this cause wdym banks, pension funds, law firms and maybe even politicians are involved? It makes sense though because the amount is enormous but just think how much, if there was any bribery that happened to government officials (it most likely looks like there was with the way they were silent). This is looking more and more like an organized financial crime and government corruption.

[feral tapir]

free my besties💔

[mint elm]

wait

whens the next hearing i heard it was pre soon like within 4? days

[upbeat stream]

24th

[fleet nebula]

tomorrow 🙂

[waxen musk]

It hasn't been delayed yet. But it is still possible.

It has been K&C's strategy to submit a large amount of documents at the last possible moments leaving little time to actually read or respond to them.

That's where the rumours come from, and don't be surprised if a delay is announce early on the day of the hearing.

[clear hill]

Do you think the judge also weighs in other factors aside from evidence gathered and counter- arguments when making a decision? Or is it very straightforward?

I know the justice system in SK kinda sucks and this is kinda just a delulu question to feed my hopium but I wonder if they even weigh in other factors even if it may be irrelevant to the case but add nuance

Don’t mind my big dose of hopium and delulu and lack of rationality

[heady gate]

"Other factor" If BSH goes down, it may change the outcome of the NJ's case.

[cerulean lake]

i need their lawyers to bring up examples of hybe using bots to spam hate comments abt their “own” artist cuz that’s def a breach of contract 🫩

[clear hill]

What about mhj winning the lawsuits from source and belift?

[clear hill]

Yea but there’s morning really to prove that these bots have a connection to Hybe/pr stunts. Unless there is a direct correlation that points to Hybe I don’t think that would be deemed as a valid claim

[cerulean lake]

wasn’t there a post earlier abt how it could be considered a contract breach issue if the head of the company does smth shady that the artists don’t know about

[cerulean lake]

that’s true. that’s why i wished there was some type of evidence that links them to it but it’s gonna be hard to obtain

[clear hill]

Also isn’t NJZ’s contract an exclusive contract that mhj made for the girls? Or was that just misinfo?

[clear hill]

Yea. Like evidence a private investigator would only find💔 I feel like if mhj hired a private investigator and stall a bit some time before going public I feel like there’d be more grounds to their contract termination

[cerulean lake]

i hate how in the midst of all this financial investigation on hybe, bsh can just hide out in the US and act like he doesn’t care bc that just shows that he knows he has some sort of political/financial backing 🫩. hate that nincompoop fr 💔

[clear hill]

Yea but honestly the gov shouldn’t even allow him to do that 😭 like we all know the chaebols run SK and powerful and influential ppl all have ties to the actual government but under this new presidency it would just look so bad if no progress have been made and powerful ppl still get away w shit even w the public knowing

[heady gate]

After I read this article, I realized the Korean justice system is unique. Sometimes, a case's outcome is predetermined before it begins.

We can talk about it after July 24.

[cerulean lake]

honestly not surprised especially w/ how almost all chaebols and politicians are corrupt

[cinder narwhal]

I've seen you say this before lol
deja vu

[clear hill]

This feels like a threat..

[cinder narwhal]

🚓

[short laurel]

What if girls were still in the dorms. We didn't know full details back then. To say privacy concerns low just cuz girls left dorms. Shh..

[frank musk]

Fr

[craggy skiff]

*x -c https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1947900917271171177?t=QQOasuVK7iAL5AezEHhFeQ&s=19

[harsh dove]

@cato_o_o <t:1753250743:d>

Bots in the comments talking negative about NewJeans when the video and comment is about Daniel Henney, Korean American actor.

Bot was triggered by word 다니엘 which is spelled same in Korean for Danielle/Daniel.

These lying astroturfing b*stards.

Bots don’t work for free.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1947836617588412918

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o)

So true. HYBE/ADOR is f*cking shameless.

Translated screen cap:

“They immediately file lawsuits over news comments criticizing executives, but let Lee Jin-ho repeatedly slander NewJeans in the news for eight months straight. What a contradiction. LOL.”

X · Jul 23, 2025, 1:50 AM

[clear hill]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSBowsxss/

Idk if this is from today or recent so someone pls correct me if I’m wrong

[old cypress]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1947840365408752007 interesting article

1tokki (@juantokki)

[Impact of the Commercial Act Amendment] HYBE Faces a New Dilemma Over NewJeans’ Activities Under ‘Duty of Loyalty to Shareholders’
https://t.co/OEVwaaIXF2
Reporter Yoon Sang-eun

Examining how the amendment to the Commercial Act affects corporate management.

The recent

X · Jul 23, 2025, 2:05 AM

[mild mist]

Well I don't think that ADOR can really do anything to convince the artist to work with them again, so what's the net outcome here? Another artist débuts / transfers to ADOR? Hybe has to compensate shareholders?

[old cypress]

There's 1 thing hybedor can do but it's never gonna happen : give 51% of ador to mhj so ador is truly independent. Njz is back and hybe is still earning profits

[clear hill]

If they have planned out a comeback, an album release and a fan meeting,you can say they’re going by the presumption that mhdhh will voluntarily or involuntarily go back to ador...I wonder what this implies lol

[old cypress]

They have zero plans, they're lying lol

[clear hill]

Yeah I figured they’re bluffing since they planned a hiatus for them after Tokyo dome fanmeet last year 💀

I wonder how the current ador staff are being paid? Do they just clock in at Hybe headquarters and toss and turn? 😭

[old cypress]

They're debuting a new bg soontm

[clear hill]

Forgot about that lol

[feral tapir]

did we get any updates

[hollow sorrel]

is it possible that Bang Si hyuk is charged by authorities and sells ADOR to cover the penalties?

his shares in ADOR I mean although I doubt people would willingly buy up shares of an empty label

[lean barn]

Is mhdhh still in court? Im seeing like those Blue pfp in tiktok, Im lost.

[timber shell]

it's just one of MHJ's case found as not guilty, not mhdhh's winning; yes, still in court.

[copper jetty]

This article is an interesting read. Especially this part. Atp, I want to ask, which sublabel really is independent if Hybe board directs things from the background, even contract agreements?

They just want to fool the public that they don't have the monopoly on kpop like SM.

[copper jetty]

Is the court hearing still scheduled for the 24th? There's still no change right?

[native anchor]

should be the 24th yes

[old cypress]

everyone knows except the judge lol. Justice can be weird sometimes

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/catzkang/status/1948010660786507863

🫧 (@catzkang)

2025.07.23 ADOR submit evidence submission document
2025.07.23 ADOR submit evidence

#mainlawsuit

X · Jul 23, 2025, 1:21 PM

[harsh dove]

DownloadError: 403 Forbidden```

[heady gate]

Why Ador submit their evidence so late?

[fierce cloak]

it seems because judge request extra info?

[copper jetty]

let's see if this last minute submission wil delay hearing. Did the girl's side submit more docs? Isn't the judge asking also for them to clear their arguments?

[frozen granite]

Praying for ADOR & HYBE’s downfall

📿

[waxen musk]

I've seen people speculate some of the evidence being submitted on the 23rd are things like what they did for NewJeans' anniversary on the 22nd and that this and their plans for NewJeans will be the new main focus for their arguments. We will see.

Delays are still possible in the morning, it has happened before with at least one of MHJ's hearings. I really hope not, I look forward to this one more than any previous.

[copper jetty]

same. I wonder how Ador will Answer the questions NewJeans' gave or if they're gonna answer at all.

ngl though it's gonna be frustrating if the hearing gets delayed again. I sometimes even wonder why the judge allows delay, unless it's like an actual legitimate reason.

[waxen musk]

I'm bracing for it.

Things have always been submitted at the last moment, whether the hearing is delayed or not.

I don't have a problem with delays to get things properly prepared, but it's the length of delays I have a problem with. We all want everything over as soon as possible.

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/kumachan982/status/1947819614693691856

[Translated by Grok]
From the reactions and media releases of ADOR on its third anniversary, it is clear that they have realized the narrative of MHJ's guilt is untenable (recent negative news has been nearly zero), and they cannot deny that MHJ's replacement performance and dismissal led to an interruption in performance. Therefore, they emphasize that they can still resume performance in the future.
In other words, the focus of the litigation is increasingly shifting toward performance capability. In this situation, the NJZ side indeed needs to further strengthen its arguments and logic around this point to persuade the judge.

The whole thread was interesting, but I don't want to post a lot here.

Comments suggesting best timescale:

The judge hopes to clarify the contentious points by the third debate, moving to the substance of the case, so that, at the earliest, one witness summons and one summary debate can lead to a judgment.

Of course things never go how you expect. So staying hopeful but expecting disappointment.

[copper jetty]

huh... read the whole thread. Interesting and we know for sure too that Ador was waiting for the verdict on the legality of MHJ's kktalk chats. But was it Source or MHJ who requested the delay? I think i have read opinion pieces where it was Source and another one telling it was MHJ, and the one requesting seems to differ depending on who's side people are on and neither actually providing their sources.

It's also gonna be interesting on how Hybe will definitely pivot their arguments on MHJ's dismissal since this is one of the key arguments, but we will see how they argue how things were delayed and no such communication too were being provided to the NewJeans' team. And also I hope that they actually provide the reasons as to why the surprise fan meet, NJ1 album, NJWMX 2.0 and also the supposed tour ( that we could've had this year) were all sidelined.

[quasi nebula]

hi I just wanted to ask how long is NJZ gonna be on hiatus for?

[native anchor]

hearing hasnt happened yet

[fierce cloak]

we dont know yet. If they win the lawsuit, then could be early next year. If they lose, it would be very unpredictable. But I have high hope they will win.

[quasi nebula]

oh right thank you

[native anchor]

these are all estimates btw

[quasi nebula]

do you know when the lawsuit is?

[native anchor]

well today on the 24th

but its like 4 am for korea

[quasi nebula]

oh ty I knew it was in July just didn’t know when ty skibidi

[native anchor]

so have to wait a bit

[native anchor]

if they lose they would have to return to their activities

set by ador

[fierce cloak]

hope it wont be postponed. It seems 3rd hearing is the main one so this gonna be crucial. Then it may have a 4th hearing, and/ or ruling -> so may take about 3-6 months until result, it seems.

[fierce cloak]

i think they can refuse. Ador cannot force them to work. But certainly it will bring other troubles. However the trajectory nowadays is more advantagous for NJZ

[native anchor]

well yea

ofc they cant force them

but if the judge rules that the contract is still intact

they would have to pay huge fines if they want to cut it short

[fierce cloak]

Certainly it could happen. We will see. Still the judge seems to be open minded and considerate for NJZ situation, there are preceded cases similar that allowed artist to terminate contract if management change, MHJ proven non guilty, Hybe/ Bang is investigated for corruption...etc => a lot of good signs for NJZ

[native anchor]

yea

i just hope no corrupt business

happens behind the scenes

[fierce cloak]

yeah same. I think with Hybe/ Bang networks being investigate deep into banks, politicians, it certainly weaken their position in pressuring judge compared to injunction situation

[waxen musk]

Hearing is at 4 PM.

[flint stone]

they decided not to delay it?

[native anchor]

thank god

[waxen musk]

No no no that's how it's been scheduled since weeks ago. I'm just updating the schedule and letting everyone know what time it is at. It can always be delayed early in the morning.

[sage fulcrum]

My God, my time zone is 9 hours different While this is happening, I'll be out (sleeping). I pray for them

[waxen musk]

I'm in the same time zone as you but I'll still probably be sleeping at that time even though I'm often up until 5AM.

[native anchor]

lol

[waxen musk]

Anyway just to make it very clear:
It's not delayed until it's delayed

[fluid ravine]

what time zone?

[waxen musk]

KST

[fluid ravine]

oh ok ty

[waxen musk]

You can check the pinned schedule to see how long is left (10 hours right now)

[fluid ravine]

tysm, its going to be early morning here unfortunately

[mint elm]

howd the court case go

[native anchor]

didnt happen yet

[naive raft]

It’s tomorrow right?

[native anchor]

well in 8h

[naive raft]

Ohh right, time zones

[frozen granite]

a prayer circle

                🕯       🕯
       🕯                         🕯
                For NJZ/
    🕯    NWJNS to win 🕯
               
       🕯                         🕯
                🕯       🕯

[cerulean lake]

dang i’m in japan rn so ig this is the first time i might be able to get updates within the same time zone 😵‍💫

[waxen musk]

There's an article saying it's today so I assume it hasn't been delayed at the last moment: https://x.com/catzkang/status/1948162948641489245

🫧 (@catzkang)

어도어 VS 뉴진스 전속계약 소송 3차 변론기일 오늘(24일) 열린다 [왓IS] (출처 : 네이버 연예) https://t.co/2iwvRVtGm0

X · Jul 23, 2025, 11:26 PM

[cerulean lake]

welp we thought the other judge would also be open minded towards their case so i’ll keep my expectations lower for now but yes, i do hope they have stronger arguments this time.

i do not want those other fandoms coming after the girls again and literally mocking them for the court’s decisions like the last previous times

[tawdry vessel]

who cares about what those bots say

real ones know girls are loved in sk and all over the world

[wind monolith]

been a while since i typed in here hopefully everything goes well for them in 6 hours and we get blessed with good news

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/nwjnsev/status/1948182311020749054
why? are they handing out the decision today?

sevynn ⭑.ᐟ ON STRIKE (@nwjnsev)

tokkis be prepared for the mess it’s about to be on this app. let’s make sure we approach this situation with respect and dignity. but most important of all, prevent the spread of misinformation against NJZ.

we got this, for minji hanni danielle haerin and hyein!

X · Jul 24, 2025, 12:43 AM

[red thorn]

Probably they meant the media reporting

[cerulean lake]

ugh i wish the hybe L streak could continue 🫩

im tired of having to hide out from the other apps bc i don’t wanna encounter all that vitriol. just been able to finally watch nwjns related vids on tiktok again

[craggy skiff]

x *c https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1948060183164600403?t=UpneduYB4B4TB76bBFK7Fw&s=19

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie)

how am i supposed to answer this survey?
😭😭😭😭 i broke the bot.

X · Jul 23, 2025, 4:38 PM

[red thorn]

The bot gonna be programed "sorry that's my cat" reply

[polar owl]

I will not be surprised if the hearing completes within an hour, and a date for the next hearing is provided. Just saying. 😒

[waxen musk]

I mean if you're not expecting that then I don't know what you're expecting. That's exactly what happens every time. The thing is, will it be an important hour and will the next hearing also be the first with witnesses.

[buoyant hamlet]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[frozen granite]

another prayer circle

                🕯       🕯
       🕯                         🕯
                For NJZ/
    🕯    NWJNS to win 🕯
               
       🕯                         🕯
                🕯       🕯

[heady gate]

3.5 hours

[blissful mango]

Isn't JP and KR time zone the same

[copper jetty]

Chat are we cooked or are we cooking?? No news yet if there's any delay? (Hopefully not last minute)

[cerulean lake]

yeah that’s why i said i’ll get live updates bc im usually in a different time zone

[clear hill]

I am prayingggg team NJZ come with stronger arguments. I know that given the circumstances w Hybe everything is very lowkey and shady so it makes it harder to pinpoint solid evidence but I really hope njz’s lawyers put their all into this

[waxen musk]

I feel like I've seen the same headline multiple times already. Anyway... busy day. https://x.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1948244900790632513

Sheepymcsheep (@sheepymcsheepy)

[Exclusive] Police, Hybe search and seizure… Speeding up investigation into Bang Si-hyuk’s alleged illegal transactions.

Looks like the prosecution granted the search warrant

https://t.co/BjinB4Xusj

X · Jul 24, 2025, 4:52 AM

But it's actually happening this time. The police were there this morning. Cool!

No idea what they'll find, considering this has been something that's had a large lead-up before actually happening.

I would be sleeping by now, but I'm legit nervous for the girls.

[mint elm]

is it j me or the girls will lose bruh

the contracts r valid so

idt they can have evidence of adors wrongdoing when ador has all the footage

[waxen musk]

lol ok we'll wait and see

[mint elm]

im no league eagle tho

[upbeat stream]

Footage of what?

[copper jetty]

What footage are we talking about here? Is it like a fancam we talking about.

[mint elm]

like when they make some claim about hybe abuse

how r they supposed to prove any of it if they dont have access to the recordings at their studio or something

remember innocent until proven guilty means like since they r the ones making the active claim they have to prove it

[empty halo]

i dont think they need that when their main argument is that their trust in ador is broken because ador fundamentally changed. it was not the company they signed up to be in initially anymore, and took a 180 degree turn with all the staff leaving. and the contract seemingly hinges on mutual trust

[mint elm]

so, theres kinda huge overlap between morals are legal

but this is an instance where they differ: categorically, ador did nothing provably illegal

[empty halo]

they dont have to prove ador did something illegal they have to prove that the company changed and it's a company they don't trust anymore, im no legal expert either but this is what I can make of the case. mhdhh isn't trying to prove ador is criminal, they're just trying to break the contract and leave.

[mint elm]

they do not have close to the amount of money for contract temination tho

[empty halo]

bro

we dont know what the contract is saying, but it seems like it has something like both parties having MUTUAL trust in each other. njz claims that the trust has been broken and so the contract is DEAD

[mint elm]

ok, u r right i shouldnt comment im a bit unfamiliar w the case

[hot girder]

https://vxtwitter.com/njzbase/status/1948247314449231893?t=pH39qTsTqziObvYq6NA93w&s=19

NJZ Base (@njzbase)

Police has raided HYBE headquarters

🔗 https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/437/0000449923?sid=102 https://t.co/ORIzyf7vl0

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 24, 2025, 5:02 AM

[mint elm]

but, if they arent proven to violate the contract, they might have to pay ~225 MILL usd

[mint elm]

can i ask out of curiousity whats left of Hybe atp?

[empty halo]

no it's okay, you can ask questions about it sorry if I came off as a bit aggressive ahahhd

[mint elm]

oh sorry i meant ador

[upbeat stream]

when have they made such claims?

[hot girder]

old ador? Not much

[mint elm]

if ador is j new jeans and new jeans left what r they doing atp

i shoulda applied and went exchange school imagine getting paid to do nothing lmfao

[empty halo]

@mint elm you can use this channel on yt called @ miofari if you wanna learn about this case, they provide information about the case from a less ador biased pov

[mint elm]

kk tysm will look into that

[mint elm]

afaik it was kinda big on their part no?

[hot girder]

they were looking for maie trainees not too long ago. So probably working on new projects rn

[empty halo]

they claimed that ador failed to protect them, never used the word abuse

[mint elm]

interesting

i have a question. Lets say hypothetically new jeans loses and they have to pay ~200 mill usd or go back

cant they use their iconic brand and go up2 a bank and ask for the rest of the money they dont have

idk korean banks but like “hi we r an internationally well known gg with branding competing w aespa and leserafim globally”

surely doable no? and the fandom is still tgt i thjnk doable

[hot girder]

no bank will give you that big of a loan and even then, it's probably not gonna be that high of an amount for njz if they get penalized

[empty halo]

they were the top gg in korea and worldwide for a quite a while who are still being paid by ador, theyre not poor so I doubt the penalty fee is THAT high for them
secondly, if they choose to "go back" to ador they're not obligated to work and listen to the company's orders and will probably remain inactive till the contract runs out

[heady gate]

HYBE stock is down 2.43%. I was expecting more.

[upbeat stream]

What if they do neither? Ador will have to terminate the contract if they want to sue for damages. And if they don't, from what I know, an indefinite injunction won't be granted. The reason why the first injunction was granted before the main trial is that it only holds till the 1st ruling

At some point, ador's only option will be to terminate and seek damages. Court will determine a fair amount since njz can't pay the full amount

[fluid ravine]

we will win.

[still badge]

IS THIS REAL

[dry wind]

ghasp...

[heady gate]

1.5 hours

[fluid ravine]

it starts at 4 but how long does it usually last?

[upbeat stream]

40 minutes to an hour

[mild mist]

I can hear Reddit screaming from here

[short laurel]

Iirc there has been cases where court granted idols termination cuz of change in core staff in their label. I forgot which group those were about.

Ofc the way they went about it was probably the usual sue 1st n get freedom approach

[feral tapir]

is this facts or just random hopes? genuinely asking

[heady gate]

https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10539046

[novel fiber]

they all laughed when we said newjeans was gonna take down the entire evil hybe empire.. who's laughing now??

i'll give you one hint who tipped off investors about what hybe did, antis tried to turn the girls against her, but she proved she was always on their side

[orchid field]

what a good day

[hoary frost]

[heady gate]

Through joyful days and quietest night,
NJ is fighting for their rights.
Those who follow HYBE’s lies
Justice will come, and NewJeans will rise

Inspired by Green Lantern's oath

[stable escarp]

The way i smiled so hard

[tardy smelt]

it’s time

[stable escarp]

I was so scared to check this chat but im greeted with gold

[tired ingot]

so how is it?

[fluid ravine]

where can we follow it? or only later can we know what happened

[alpine sapphire]

Any update ?

[mint elm]

^

[fluid ravine]

https://m.news.nate.com/view/20250724n29872?mid=e02&list=recent&cpcd= the only thing I saw so far was this

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[polar owl]

I can't focus on work today.....when are we expected to hear about the trial, btw?

[fluid ravine]

from what they said, i think in less than an hour

[buoyant hamlet]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[frank musk]

apperently NJZ hasnt appeared yet

[cinder narwhal]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/home/article/241/0003454960

[frank musk]

oh my bad i meant they didnt show up or?

[cinder narwhal]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/home/article/108/0003350658

[split shoal]

may i ask what this trial is for??

[short laurel]

WTF ?

[cinder narwhal]

to determine if newjeans's termination of their exclusive contract with ador is legal

[frank musk]

So if its illegal the contract with ador is still valid?

[cinder narwhal]

yes

[short laurel]

hybeador, deliberately harmed newjeans and waged opinion war.
also hybeador: it's MHJ who waged opinion war.

[frank musk]

im hoping that doesnt come to pass

[raven kelp]

why does it feel like we're running around in circles i hate this shi

[split shoal]

it better not pass

[cinder verge]

when will we hear results?

[frank musk]

next hour i think

[flint stone]

This logic is killing me, this judge is suspicious

[cinder verge]

and where?

[split shoal]

ikr the judge seems to be corrupt, and working with the evil people around like hybe

[subtle matrix]

There's not going to be any actual results of this hearing right? Nothing's being ruled just yet

[raven kelp]

if i had a bn dollars

[flint stone]

Okay its our turn https://x.com/juantokki/status/1948289971099463946?t=597nEEaaGZ2EyH31JDeimA&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki)

Sejong’s time to present…

X · Jul 24, 2025, 7:51 AM

[frank musk]

not sure

[cinder verge]

sejong is njz lawyer right

[fluid ravine]

apparently ador is putting all the blame on mhj

[cinder narwhal]

this is already the 3rd hearing of oral arguments i don't think we'll get results anytime soon. or this year for that matter

[cinder verge]

is the hearing still ongoing?

[flint stone]

Yes, Kim & Chan or something for hybe

[cinder narwhal]

yes

[flint stone]

Of course, 30 minutes for each side

[cinder verge]

what was the audit again? idek what that means

[mild mist]

"...based on their subjective viewpoint"
What a dumbass statement
Are they supposed to drag some vagabond from the street and ask them to look at it?

[subtle matrix]

The audit on ADOR when MHJ was still CEO

[fluid ravine]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1948290728263839971

sejong will actually use the result of the mhj trial as an argument

[short laurel]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1948290680746569824

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

There hasn't been a single article for NJZ's side presentation at the moment.. fucking media blackout.
Luckily there are a few K Fans and K BNZ there who are reporting so at least we got that going

X · Jul 24, 2025, 7:54 AM

[empty halo]

i cant predict the future, read the minds of njz and their lawyers or see their bank accounts so obviously it's not "facts". but in case they lose, its likely to happen judging by their hesitance to ever work under ador

[feral tapir]

i see thank u

[cinder verge]

can they hop off mhjs dick

[shy schooner]

No results for this year probably

[cinder narwhal]

yes

[split shoal]

thank you

[short laurel]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1948290930278117552

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

Judge told Kim and Chang to stop bringing the kakaotalks up but not a single article is mentioning it.

X · Jul 24, 2025, 7:55 AM

[waxen musk]

I am once again reminded to remain calm and WAIT until the end of everything and not rely on the media's reports. I saw immediate "wtf" responses about the judge's response about the KKT messages. But what was not reported was that the judges ALSO said to not bring them up again, too. I will continue to wait until all the information is presented to me.

[short laurel]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1948292422628458962

🫧 (@catzkang)

NJZ Team : "The current ADOR is not the ADOR that achieved past success, it is now controlled by HYBE employees. While there was significant support and dividends in the past, this was during Min Heejin’s time as CEO. We can’t trust the present ADOR, so we cannot continue under

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:01 AM

[fluid ravine]

the sad thing about all this is that it seems like we're in a loop

[short laurel]

yea it's just looping

[waxen musk]

It's because we've been hearing the arguments on Twitter on repeat for a year. Now it's time to actually present those arguments to the court. It takes time. Unfortunately.

[frank musk]

when will this end...

[fluid ravine]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1948293431790621025

[raven kelp]

*x https://x.com/juantokki/status/1948293431790621025

1tokki (@juantokki)

Sejong:

“The reason ADOR ended up in a legal battle began in April 2024, when HYBE initiated an audit against Min Hee-jin. They talked about a ‘NewJeans poaching attempt’ under the claim of a management rights takeover, but the audit or dismissal notice contained no such

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:05 AM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1948293431790621025 does not contain any media!

[waxen musk]

Today's hearing? NJZ's presentation will end at 5:15 and then I'm sure there's a bit of talking after that and then it'll be over for today.
Then hopefully there's enough to go to the next step which will involve witnesses. If not, another hearing before that step. Those will happening in the next month or two.

[frank musk]

man this is one long process

[short laurel]

https://x.com/tina2nHR/status/1948293054495937010

tin #MAOMAO'S CHEERLEADER🐈‍⬛🖤 (@tina2nHR)

• security personnel deleted the footage then resigned
• 5 sec. clip suddenly showed during injunction
• cctv was not deliberately deleted; automatically erased after 30 days

fraudor:

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:03 AM

[waxen musk]

Then what was the CCTV footage they DID show? HUH HYBE. HUUUUH????

[frank musk]

hybe being fucking idiots

[red thorn]

Cctv deliberately selected

[fluid ravine]

lol, they are contradicting themselves wtf

[waxen musk]

1. KKT messages shouldn't be talked about again but were
2. CCTV footage was shown in the past but now whatever RELEVANT CCTV footage was deleted after 30 days

I REALLY CANT WITH THEM ON THESE POINTS

[raven kelp]

they just want to drag this shit out exhaust the girls' and mhj's time, energy and resources

[flint stone]

Sejong cooking https://x.com/juantokki/status/1948293431790621025?t=HtPuY_xgamOpJ-J25HnUDg&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki)

Sejong:

“The reason ADOR ended up in a legal battle began in April 2024, when HYBE initiated an audit against Min Hee-jin. They talked about a ‘NewJeans poaching attempt’ under the claim of a management rights takeover, but the audit or dismissal notice contained no such

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:05 AM

[waxen musk]

I do want to hear what arguments Ador is presenting that could fool a dumb judge. Not read through anything yet.
But so far the NJZ side's arguments are exactly what we wanted. EXACTLY what we were asking for!

[frank musk]

its just inhumane what hybe are doing

[short laurel]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1948293380859105397

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

SEJONG HAS AN AUDIO RECORDING OF LEE DO KYUNG ( THE THIEF ) WHO SAYS SHE HAS NO CONFIDENCE AND THAT IT WAS TOO MUCH TO HANDLE ADOR.

SEJONG ALSO STATES THAT THEY ARE PORTRAYING HANNI AS A LIAR

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:05 AM

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/TokkiLoops/status/1948294770981474544

. (@TokkiLoops)

NJZ: NJZ team addressed the claim that Hanni had heard the phrase "ignore her" from an ILLIT manager. The lawyer stated, “There is video footage of when she entered, but why was the video of her leaving deleted? Hanni has been made out to be a liar—how would the other members

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:10 AM

[waxen musk]

I'm getting too excited slow down man

[cinder narwhal]

who's lee do kyung again

[raven kelp]

lol same

[stable escarp]

HOLY MOLY WHAT THE HELLY

[flint stone]

“The KakaoTalk messages from Min Hee-jin were personal conversations that could’ve been taken jokingly, but they used that to claim a hostile takeover and launched an audit. This whole ‘management takeover’ framing is false.”

They further stated:

“All the articles about HYBE’s Bang Si-hyuk’s ₩400 billion unfair trading scandal and BTS military enlistment insider information leak only add up to about 120 news pieces—but in contrast, ahead of NewJeans’ comeback, there were over 1,700 articles just about the audit. That says everything.”

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/jeanzified/status/1948294677129572575

[narrow seal]

250724 zy. #NJ1 (@​jeanzified) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/jeanzified/status/1948294677129572575
NEWJEANS SIDE BROUGHT A VOICE RECORDING OF LEE DO KYUNG SAYING SHE CANT HANDLE ADOR AND THAT ITS TOO MUCH…

[raven kelp]

some mf ig

[fluid ravine]

MY GOD

[waxen musk]

No idea who Lee is

Someone in charge of new Ador?

[cinder narwhal]

lee do kyung is ador vp post mhj era

[raven kelp]

if there is one thing i believe in this universe that is karma

[frank musk]

fr im hoping that happens soon

[waxen musk]

How the hell did they get a voice recording of them saying this Hope it helps

[cinder narwhal]

she's also the person who took credit for nj popups while not part of ador, and who sued a commenter related to that and lawsuit was dismissed

[waxen musk]

But damn this presentation is speeding along and seemingly has all the main points we WANTED to be made finally sounding good. Hope the judge understands.

[short laurel]

internal director of ador and coe of hybe IPX

[raven kelp]

ohhh her

[fluid ravine]

i have no idea, but im glad they did it.

[waxen musk]

NO FUCKING WAY REALLY? That's hilarious

[short laurel]

he according to google...

[raven kelp]

damn it's raining Ls for her

[waxen musk]

Anyway I said I would wait until the end and I already broke my own promise...

Let me just get out of this chat for half an hour

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/TokkiLoops/status/1948295611322953858

. (@TokkiLoops)

“We are still preparing for NewJeans’ comeback. ADOR staff members are sincerely waiting for the members to return.”

🤢🤢🤢

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:14 AM

[cinder verge]

who is lee do kyung

[short laurel]

the one who took credit for tokyodom and popup store when she was not even part of ador back then and only got added later by hybe.

[cinder narwhal]

ssibal

[cinder verge]

wait so what is this audio recording about

also am i tripping or sejong is fucking clocking them

[fluid ravine]

vice president post mhj

[raven kelp]

oh they absolutely are

but i'm pretty sure this day will also end anticlimactic

[cinder narwhal]

so what's that voice recording supposed to show? i dont get it

[fluid ravine]

i feel like crying

[cinder narwhal]

*x -c https://x.com/yo_lobster/status/1948294624709103795

[harsh dove]

@yo_lobster <t:1753344610:d>

Summary of NewJeans's Defense:

1. Origin of the Legal Dispute

NewJeans’ side explained that the legal battle began due to HYBE launching an audit of Min Hee-jin in April 2024. HYBE accused her of a “power grab” and trying to “take NewJeans.” However, no valid grounds for an audit or dismissal were found.

The main issue raised was breach of duty, but later police did not recognize any wrongdoing by Min Hee-jin.

They emphasized this was a baseless and unjustified effort to remove her from her position.

---

2. Damage to NewJeans

While the focus was on Min Hee-jin, NewJeans was the party that suffered the most. Their objections and position were overlooked and caused them significant harm.

---

3. Current ADOR Is Not Trustworthy

The ADOR of today is not the same as the one that built NewJeans’ success.

It is now dominated by HYBE employees, not led by the original creative team. Support and dividends that HYBE claims were provided all happened under Min Hee-jin’s leadership.

Therefore, NewJeans stated they can no longer trust the current ADOR and cannot continue working under them.

---

4. Suspicions of ILLIT Copying NewJeans

NewJeans questioned whether it’s really a coincidence that two girl group project plans—three years apart—are identical. Later, a member's mother also raised concerns over copying.

When Min Hee-jin formally raised the issue with Belift Lab, HYBE quickly responded by launching an audit and labeling it a “power grab.”

---

5. Audit Was Retaliation

The audit came only six days after Min Hee-jin raised the concern—which NewJeans described as retaliatory. All the reasons HYBE used to justify the audit were later dismissed, with no charges filed.

NewJeans claimed the audit had a clear, predetermined purpose—to push Min Hee-jin out.

---

6. False Narrative of “Power Grab”

HYBE used private KakaoTalk messages from Min Hee-jin—casual and joking in tone—as evidence of a power

[drowsy crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/no-donkeys-shrek-gif-1107972158425297474

[cinder narwhal]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/home/article/241/0003454977

Ador can no longer produce other artists, and K-pop has no choice but to go down the path of collapse
omfg 😭

[raven kelp]

deja vu

isn't this similar to what was said before the injunction order

[stable escarp]

imma need a dumbdowned ver. 3hr of sleep is not enough to understand all this

all i know is that its looking good i think

[raven kelp]

let's pray it looks good to the judge too

[runic tinsel]

this is the best its looked but ik anyone outside is gonna focus on is illit's name being brought up again

[clear hill]

Oh no

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/catzkang/status/1948295723549880705

[narrow seal]

250724 🫧 (@​catzkang) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/catzkang/status/1948295723549880705
Sejong : "The members decided that even if they suffer financial losses, staying with ADOR is no longer an option"

‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[cinder verge]

can i get a tldr on this 😭😭😭

[raven kelp]

basically saying that fraudor can't repeat the success njz made

[cinder verge]

sorry wrong thing

[raven kelp]

idk man maybe because you guys removed all of the key people originally responsible for the said success

[cinder verge]

so ador basically is saying they cant repeat what was done without all the people who did it 😭😭no shit you fucking dumbass

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1948299823255376251 some tokkium

1tokki (@juantokki)

Don’t worry, the court did not accept the KakaoTalk messages as official evidence, nor have they agreed with HYBE’s claims based on them. In fact, during the clarification order (석명 명령), the judge formally requested that they refrain from bringing up KakaoTalk messages.

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:30 AM

[clear hill]

LET HIM COOOKKKKK 🙏🗣

[raven kelp]

Ador can no longer produce other artists, and K-pop has no choice but to go down the path of collapse

also this is so dramatic

[cinder narwhal]

if ador dont have kkt what else do they have

[raven kelp]

bunch of thieves is what they have left

[frozen granite]

Did something good happen ? Or it’s too soon to tell ?

[clear hill]

Also no one has mentioned the irony of Hybe using kkt against mhj when bsh literally asked mhj on kkt to create a gg to “step on aespa” the irony

[fluid ravine]

is the audition over yet?

[raven kelp]

and istg if the next hearing is on like next year or smthn

[waxen musk]

Wow the media is really useless huh. I don't think we've ever known just HOW useless they are at reporting on these hearing until today where we know K-Bunnies are going way more in-depth with detailing what is being presented. Nice!

[cinder narwhal]

i think the boys audition is still ongoing

[strange venture]

ooh sejong is cooking

[cinder verge]

does lsf have anything to do with this whole situation, just wondering

[snow furnace]

audition

[waxen musk]

Only the debut of each group that MHJ talked about in her first presentation. It doesn't really affect any of the legal proceedings (for NJZ). However Source is suing MHJ for defamation for talking about that way back in April 2024. Those hearings keep getting delayed.

[cinder narwhal]

lee do kyung https://fixupx.com/MANDO_Giroro/status/1948296846709084552

진순이 (@MANDO_Giroro)

부담스러우신분이 왜.. ㅠㅠ

누렁갸아앙🌻님의 글을 인용함(@nurunggang)
︀
수정된 내용은 “이도경 부대표가 대책 없다며 부담스러워했다”

**🔁 27 ❤️ 78 👁️ 1.9K **

FixupX · Jul 24, 2025, 8:19 AM

[upbeat stream]

From what I know, there's this twt account that is an insider and has been reporting Sejong's arguments directly

[waxen musk]

Yeah everyone is using that account for info

[upbeat stream]

Where is ilgan?

[cinder narwhal]

i posted some scroll up

[cinder verge]

what did mhj say in her first presentation

[waxen musk]

That NewJeans was supposed to debut first but they made LSF debut first and the issues with distrust that caused MHJ to have with Hybe at the time. There's more to explain but I'm tired.

[cinder verge]

ahh ok i remember this thanks

damn its rly been more than a year

[upbeat stream]

ssera is also involved in the LV stuff which was brought up in the injunction hearing but I'm not sure if it was ever discussed in the main lawsuit

[cinder verge]

what is LV

[waxen musk]

Oh yeah. Haven't heard talk about Louis Vuitton for aaaages.

I won't lie, I would like to hear Ador's side in full detail too just to make sure they aren't saying anything that could convince a judge that doesn't know better

That's the problem with Tokki reporting on Twitter. Only shows the benefitial side towards NJZ.

[upbeat stream]

Let me check The Star, they usually report both sides and are kinda neutral with a slight ador lean

[cinder verge]

can u link their twt pls

[waxen musk]

(I don't normally ask for this but things are looking TOO good for NJZ's side based on the limited reporting so far)

Ofc waiting for any statements about what the judge says is the most important indicator for how this will proceed

[upbeat stream]

https://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=15745706

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1948302014934548969?

1tokki (@juantokki)

Sejong:

“The defendants (the members) are not saying they will never go back to ADOR. What they’re saying is they want to return to the old ADOR — the one that cared for them.”

“An exclusive contract is a full-personhood contract — it encompasses every part of an artist’s

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:39 AM

[fluid ravine]

https://x.com/LilTOKKI5/status/1948303340691230877
Personal overall opinion
I think today's argument was the best ever by the New Jeans defense team. Of course, I thought they would win when comparing it to existing precedents or laws during the injunction, but I realized that the reality is not easy, especially when dealing with large entertainment companies that do not hesitate to use any means or methods. Anyway, it was not bad when I only read the article, so I hope for a wise decision by the court.

october 30 the next

[cinder verge]

oct 30 is next hearing??

[waxen musk]

Good point about the 30 days CCTV cut-off I saw:
If May 27 footage was shown, why not the all-important May 28 footage? Is it just coincidence that the cut-off was on that very specific day?

[fluid ravine]

yes

[waxen musk]

Ah ok. That's too far away fuck. I'll update the schedule give me a min.

[cinder verge]

thabks

[upbeat stream]

Yeah, I am looking to see if the judge said anything. He said some interesting stuff in the 1st hearing, but nothing in the 2nd or 3rd

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1948296276535108090

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

sorry this is a mistranslation.. it gets even worse.

Lee Do Kyung claimed that she had no future plans for it and that the responsibility was too much

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:16 AM

[cinder verge]

how many hearings can we expect before a decision

[waxen musk]

Ok schedule updated.

[native anchor]

crazy

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/catzkang/status/1948302776385335737

[narrow seal]

250724 🫧 (@​catzkang) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/catzkang/status/1948302776385335737
Sejong : "The members are not saying they will unconditionally not go to ADOR. What they mean is, they want to return to the ADOR that used to cherish them."

[native anchor]

i want that too

[fluid ravine]

we have no idea

but there can be many

[upbeat stream]

Judgement date is October 30th guys

[waxen musk]

Wait is it judgement date or next hearing date? (I may have updated the schedule prematurely)

[fluid ravine]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1948304413757473084

[upbeat stream]

Idk using google translate but the word is different

[clear hill]

I think both sides and the judge can agree how crucial newjeans are to the industry and to Hybe. Hybe clearly needs one if it’s main revenues and ador’s focus seems to be on continuing that as if this past year never happened. I think this can be beneficial for newjeans’s side

[waxen musk]

Interesting

[upbeat stream]

And also mediation date is 14th August so judgement after that makes sense

[fluid ravine]

we can consider today as a little victory no?

[cinder narwhal]

lol
https://x.com/pouchwonki/status/1948303778098090092

shie 🎀 (@pouchwonki)

HYBE to the media: "we still have plans for the newjeans members"

SEJONG: *plays the audio recording of Lee Dokyung, the current deputy CEO of ADOR, admitting that he felt overwhelmed of the responsibilities and had no actual future plans for ADOR*

😭😭😭

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:46 AM

[waxen musk]

Remind me what that might mean. I'm sleep deprived.

[waxen musk]

We don't know unless we get an insight into how the judge is thinking. I haven't seen anything like that yet, unlike previous hearings where we heard a LITTLE from the judge.

[frozen granite]

Wait October 30 is the decision day??

[native anchor]

seems so

[waxen musk]

Waiting for confirmation. It's either the next hearing or judgement. Machine translation cannot be trusted.

[upbeat stream]

The court will formally ask both sides to attend a mediation by the court. They are required to attend (if either side doesn't, the court could rule in the other's favor) and then if they can't reach a settlement it's over. We await the judgement day

[wary creek]

how did they get their hands on a recording of the CEO of ADOR admitting that?

[waxen musk]

I got chills reading this. Is it finally nearing the end?

How should I update the schedule. Include the mediation date next month and change Oct to judgement? I need confirmation.

[wary creek]

if a CEO has one job, it would be to not admit incompetency and cause fear

[cinder narwhal]

haha wow then they drop a song on Halloween as originally planned or we mourn

[frozen granite]

Did this hearing help newjeans or no?

[fluid ravine]

https://x.com/Njz_scoop/status/1948306640773509199

apparently that's what it will be

[waxen musk]

Schedule updated. Please check for errors like I said I'm sleep deprived.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1948304949290377584

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

IMPORTANT

Multiple K BNZ has confirmed to me that HYBE did not have any materials for the materials and questions that the Judge asked at the second hearing regardings
"Did you have a discussion how ousting MHJ would harm NJZ"
"Did you guys inform them of such decisions" etc

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:51 AM

[waxen musk]

Jesus stop I'm in disbelief

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/TokkiLoops/status/1948307179964100980 holy

. (@TokkiLoops)

NJZ: “The members want to continue their careers in entertainment but no longer under ADOR.” They added, “Just going near the ADOR building makes their hearts race, and they need to take antidepressants”

X · Jul 24, 2025, 9:00 AM

[waxen musk]

Is that literal? If so that's so sad

[wary creek]

i don't believe it. Billion dollar company with best lawyers on retainer

and fumble that bad

[cinder narwhal]

from here https://m.entertain.naver.com/home/article/241/0003454985

[waxen musk]

I'm not surprised but it's painful to hear

[fluid ravine]

it seems that it has been confirmed that the judge's verdict will be given on oct 30

[clear hill]

What the fuck://

[maiden verge]

where?

[waxen musk]

I shouldn't say I'm not surprised. I mean that the INTENSITY of horrible shit towards the girls is enough to really worry me.

[fluid ravine]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1948305887036084283

[waxen musk]

The court's website updates with the schedule. Catzkang is usually the only one (that I see) to report it because they found access.

[sage venture]

the injunction will no longer be in effect after oct 30, so either way, it's good for the girls it moves quickly

[cinder narwhal]

oh apparently it's from a written petition from the members

[waxen musk]

Damn that's true (reply b milo). But also, just you never know how judges react to all this info. It's scary.

[clear hill]

Also I can’t imagine how traumatizing it would be for hanni to pass illit in the Hybe building if they were to go ack to ador. We haven’t heard anything from her but out of all of the members she has taken most of the public scrutiny and I know that’s not easy to deal with:/

[hoary frost]

?!?!

[waxen musk]

It's insane how people refuse to understand

[fluid ravine]

i hope that oct 30 will be a very important day in their lives

[mild mist]

This is an important one.
If that first sentence sticks then it opens up many new attack vectors regarding hybe's PR etc.

[waxen musk]

I don't think she's scared of the members lol. Don't say that. It's the staff, the people who support each other inside that hopefully-soon-to-be-empty building.

We've all wished and hoped the girls to be happy since we haven't seen them and of course we still don't know how they really are but to hear this bad news is heartbreaking.

[mild mist]

She probably has a general feeling of persona non grata in the building

[clear hill]

I don’t think she’s scared either lol. I just meant that the “ignore her” situation is something that she will have to live for, the way the media treated her, the way the company handled it, I’m sure it’s not easy for her

[cinder verge]

what the fuck

how do we know FOR SURE the decision will be on oct 30

[cinder narwhal]

it says judgement in korean on the courts website apparently

[mild mist]

#1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1753347235:f>

from baron_199

[Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[clear hill]

Even if it’s not directly from seeing illit or being in the Hybe building, passing idols or other staff, we as spectators and supporters know how much hate hanni has been getting. as hard it is for us fans to see the scrutiny just imagine how she feels

[wary creek]

on another note, if HYBE acted in retaliation of MHJ pointing out the copying, how could the judge ever expect NJZ to come back and not face retaliation

[native anchor]

best case would be if hybe were to offer reinstating old ador at the mediation date

[sage venture]

this is a civil case, they’ll first go through a closed door mediation in August If no agreement is reached, the court will make the final decision that day

[native anchor]

doubt thats happening

but one can hope

[cerulean lake]

can’t trust any judges man. i mean it’s been shown that many judges were pressured externally 🙄

[clear hill]

Also not to mention hanni has always been alienated by Hybe staff from the get-go. The way Hybe stans and staff treat hanni like she killed a puppy. I can’t imagine working with people who would see me as a bully for talking about my negative experiences

[cinder narwhal]

pls

[waxen musk]

I know I'm asking too much but any chance of injunction becoming innefective BEFORE October 30?

[twilit lark]

october 30… 😭

[native anchor]

well

if the mediation goes well and they settle there is no need for the injuction

[waxen musk]

3 months will go quick enough and once we're on the other side it would hopefully feel like a distant memory compared to the many hopeful years of joy to come

[native anchor]

but if not it will last that long

[wanton flint]

Where do I read the update

[waxen musk]

All over the place. Media reports are insufficient with reporting.

[cerulean lake]

let’s hope bsh gets clocked during the wait then 🫩

[cinder narwhal]

just after bunnies day 🎉

[wanton flint]

Oct 30 better be a good day so I can celebrate Halloween happily

[waxen musk]

Oh fuck yeah Oct 29 is Bunnies Day.

[native anchor]

😔

[cerulean lake]

they’ve been alienated in person and on that blind website 🫩👎

[rain spade]

imagine we win

[wanton flint]

3 consecutive important days 🤩

[sage venture]

BTW there has never been a precedent where the court ordered artists to return at this stage as it's clear both parties can no longer work together That’s why most of these cases are settled before the first judgement But who knows

[waxen musk]

I can finally feel some peace knowing that this will be over way sooner than we were expecting. Of course we don't know the result. But after today, how could you not be even more hopeful! Anyway gn (I'll stay up longer to "fix" sleep schedule cos it's fucked after past few days).

[fluid ravine]

it is worth remembering that the final judgment will be one day before mhj x belift too

[wanton flint]

Is it actually October 30 guys

[waxen musk]

Someone ping me if schedule needs updating.

[frank musk]

wait guys

[hollow sorrel]

anyone finds it ironic how the judgement is made on 10.30 and Bunnies’ Day is 10.29

[frank musk]

so what happend i took a lil nap

[hollow sorrel]

It’s like the universe or god or whatever is on NewJeans’ side

[fluid ravine]

yes, we have a little hope and it is certainly comforting to know that this will not last much longer

[rain spade]

is gonna be delayed again trustt

[wanton flint]

The fact that Oct 30 is also the day newjeans is rumoured to be disbanded 👽

[hollow sorrel]

they can’t delay the judgement cause there’s no more hearings after this I think

it’s just the day they announce the results at 9 AM

[native anchor]

its okay bunnies i solved it

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-smirking-tiktoksmirk-tiktokemoji-gif-13806203095854006769

[cerulean lake]

so we’re getting confirmation it’s oct 30?

[hollow sorrel]

Do we think they might settle???

[craggy skiff]

well, I don't expect that we so close to the final result like this
no matter they must pay to break the contract or not, it still better than hiatus until 2029

[native anchor]

i mean it all depends on ador

[upbeat stream]

This case has moved very fast if you think about it. Loona's took 2 years

[sage venture]

unless BSH gets on his knees and begs MHJ that’s never going to happen

[native anchor]

the girls are willing to go back if mhj ador comes back

[frank musk]

wait can somebody fill me in on whats happening

[native anchor]

else i dont think there will be a settlement

[rain spade]

question is, WILL THEY come back mhj and old staff

[tiny peak]

there is no way they will settle. that company is their biggest anti

[native anchor]

their agents said that they are willing to come back if old ador comes back

[tiny peak]

old ador is never coming back though?

[native anchor]

who knows

[drowsy crypt]

FUCK YOU HYBE
FUCK YOU ADOR
FUCK YOU BELIFT LAB
FUCK YOU BANG SHITYUK

[sage venture]

that's purely a legal fight The girls have no reason to settle They've endured everything so far why not wait just 3 more months?

[craggy skiff]

not really
mhj go back is not only one condition
ador must back to the old form of operation, not under hybe direct control like currently

[native anchor]

i didnt say mhj only i said mhj ador

meaning ador under mhj

[hollow sorrel]

They can renegotiate their contracts with ADOR like “MHJ must be CEO of ADOR while their contract is active” or something like that

[native anchor]

their team literally said today they are willing to go back to old ador

[short laurel]

and have ful lcontrol of ador without any interference by hybe.

[hollow sorrel]

really?? even if Bang Si hyuk is the majority shareholder?

[craggy skiff]

i dont think it gonna happen
mhj only back if her shares are reinstated
and hybe wont agree that

[hot girder]

doubt there will be a settlement because one:

1. hybe has to agree to reincorporate mhj and the old staff back into their old positions in ADOR
2. mhj has to agree to go back to ADOR

which are both very unlikely to happen, mostly the first one

[subtle matrix]

I think there will be a settlement for their termination, not for their return

[native anchor]

hybe wants money

and if thats what it takes

to get more money

it will happen

[hollow sorrel]

And the second one contradicts Min Heejin’s ongoing shareholder’s agreement lawsuit no?

[craggy skiff]

the best scenario could be is the girl must pay a mutually agreed compensation.

[hot girder]

best case scenario they get to terminate their contracts while having minimum impact over their $

[hot girder]

I'm not up to date with the mhj stuff

[upbeat stream]

Yep. I don't think they will even begin to negotiate if ador insists on the return being a necessary part of it

[sage venture]

nope If HYBE just wants the money, they’d stay quiet and focus on collecting it

[native anchor]

this all happened because they wanted more money

hybe wanted full control alias full shares

[tiny peak]

no it was because of a certain pig's ego

[native anchor]

meaning more money

[short laurel]

then no point in going back in ador even if mhj comes back cuz hybe will keep messing with them

[sage venture]

once again nope They wanted to crush MHJ and NJ if they stood in their way

[craggy skiff]

even if bsh go to jail, I doubt is his impact to hybe decision still remain
if bsh could change his ego, this shjt was never happen

[weak relic]

What's the results for lawsuit today?
I saw the pinned msg August have lawsuit

[flint stone]

https://x.com/TokkiLoops/status/1948315466105250031?t=xg0iDjfldQYUowsoWe7-ag&s=19

. (@TokkiLoops)

The court also requested that a representative member of NewJeans attend the session.

X · Jul 24, 2025, 9:32 AM

[cinder narwhal]

hello attorney minji

[raven kelp]

on mediation?

[sage venture]

one way or another, the girls have to get out of that company There’s literally no one inside that building protecting them

[flint stone]

Yes

[subtle matrix]

I think people overstate the role of BSH on this. Hybe is a massive corporation all they care about is dollar signs. Plus haven't we seen basically the same thing happen in like all the other labels? Get BSH out of hybe and the last year probably goes exactly the same

[upbeat stream]

Isn't 3 hearings kinda less? JYJ case had 6

[raven kelp]

haerin will win with her aura alone not one word uttered

[buoyant hamlet]

im sad to hear some are taking antidepressants

[tiny peak]

as problematic as the other companies are, this would never happen at a normal company because NewJeans were making a lot of money. HYBE does not behave rationally because it exists just to feed BSH ego

[raven kelp]

maybe because the judge realised that ador will simply submit the same kkt every hearing

[tiny peak]

when has a label sabotaged an extremely successful group like this?

[sage venture]

never?

[flint stone]

Representative, girls doesn't have to attend themselves. After I read about antidepressants I don't want girls to attend any of the sessions and be near that building

[upbeat stream]

Ador literally hasn't submitted anything of note since the injunction hearing 😭

[raven kelp]

oh i read it as one member representing newjeans

[wanton flint]

I'm a bit scared, newjeans lost like multiple injunctions, what if they actually lost 😭

[tiny peak]

if they lose fine, but they should not be tormented in that company a second longer

[raven kelp]

i'm pretty sure some company out there will take ALL their money AND mistreat them

[sage venture]

yep that’s the key point I also think that’s why it didn’t go to the 4th hearing

[flint stone]

It's says representative member of NewJeans, maybe it means one of the members, but I'm not sure,we need native speaker

[hollow sorrel]

injunctions and lawsuits are very different in nature

injunction is the battle and the lawsuit is the war
they may have lost the battle but they can win the war

[wanton flint]

They are gonna end up like fromis_9 but this time they couldn't escape and comebacks every leap years

[hot girder]

wtf are you saying

[subtle matrix]

I mean lots of other groups were also making a lot of money and their labels still found ways to f it up. Trying to paint this purely as a BSH power trip is no different than the people who paint this as an MHJ galaxy brain plan to take over ador hybe and maybe the entire world

[cinder verge]

wait guys what is happening on august 14th

[hot girder]

mediation hearing

[cinder verge]

what does that mean?

[craggy skiff]

*x -c https://x.com/yo_lobster/status/1948308746385715630

[tiny peak]

still waiting for an example of "lots of other groups"

[wanton flint]

Nono I meant if they lost I'm not saying they are gonna actually like that

[harsh dove]

@yo_lobster <t:1753347977:d>

The court confirmed the mediation date for both parties as August 14th and announced that it would be held in private.
https://m.news.nate.com/view/20250724n35781?mid=e02&list=recent&cpcd=
--
What is Mediation:
This is a court-arranged attempt to settle the dispute privately and peacefully. If both sides can come to an agreement, then the case could be resolved without going to the next trial.

A mediator (appointed by the court) will facilitate the conversation but won’t make binding decisions, unlike a judge in a trial.

If mediation fails, the case will continue in court as planned on Oct 30.

If mediation succeeds, the Oct 30 hearing may be canceled or replaced with a brief session to confirm the settlement.

[hot girder]

read the tweet above hehe

[tiny peak]

media play

[short laurel]

BSH has been heavily involved in all the labels we currently have war with. and their idols were even made to praise him. so him going away will have some effect on public opinion atleast.

[cinder verge]

ohhhh ok

[short laurel]

and for entertainment company. public opinion is crucial. i worry this could harm the idols.

[sage venture]

that’s just the normal procedure before a court judgment in a civil lawsuit It’s basically giving them one last chance to settle

[raven kelp]

lol that headline is such a bait

[cinder verge]

do yall think they will actually settle on august 14th

[short laurel]

nope

[tiny peak]

no they won't the article is bait + media play

[cinder verge]

wdym

[fluid ravine]

the best scenario would be to resolve everything on the mediation date but thats basically impossible, right?

[sage venture]

nope the girls have no reason to settle

[raven kelp]

we won't know until aug 14th

[subtle matrix]

It will have some effect, I don't think it will fundamentally change anything about how each party acts. Hybe's interests will remain the same

[hollow sorrel]

I seriously doubt they are returning to HYBE after all of this it is unlikely they will settle to return to ADOR

[native anchor]

continuing their activities as soon as possible is a reason

[subtle matrix]

We need to stop equating "settlement" with "return to ador"

[raven kelp]

also the girls have stated multiple times that they are NOT returning to the current ador

[flint stone]

I asked chatgpt, it means the members need to attend themselves

[fluid ravine]

chatgpt is wise.

[native anchor]

yeah they have to show up

[short laurel]

ofc. but the thing is bsh alone isn't the culprit in the IPO fraud. there are few more people involved. also separate case on insider trading of the people goign to jail. one of them is somu creative director who is against MHJ. few more people might get in trouble depending on how MHJ case goes. it's small but they could add up and help njz. honestly we can't predict. 1 person fall can take many people with them.

[sage venture]

what activity? there's no one who made them

[native anchor]

please just think a bit more. u can still prepare stuff while not being allowed to publicly do stuff

[hollow sorrel]

~t https://x.com/catzkang/status/1948295723549880705

[narrow seal]

250724 🫧 (@​catzkang) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/catzkang/status/1948295723549880705
Sejong : "The members decided that even if they suffer financial losses, staying with ADOR is no longer an option"

‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[native anchor]

current ador

[raven kelp]

here

[flint stone]

I mean, it's just about understanding English, so I think asking chatgpt is a good option

[rain spade]

They have things planned before they went on a break after the concert

[hollow sorrel]

also advertisers are interested in THEM not the NewJeans brand and we saw that during january-february-march that a lot of brands still worked with them like Coca Cola

[cerulean coral]

Any good news ?

[hollow sorrel]

only good news

[sage venture]

getting a quick result is good news

[tiny peak]

we wait. and pray for their health and happiness in the meantime

[cerulean coral]

Yessir

[craggy skiff]

i don't know why I only see good news
Didn't hybe bring anything else the stupid private chat into court?

[cinder verge]

can someone summarize the results of this hearing?

[hollow sorrel]

basically yeah, but the chats were rejected by the court

NewJeans' side brought a lot of evidence and stronger arguments, they had a voice recording of an ADOR executive saying she doesn't know what to do with ADOR or something like that

[craggy skiff]

no result yet

[craggy skiff]

mhj was acquitted is such a huge impact to this case
everything come from her internal audit

[fierce cloak]

if they cant even produce the boygroup in training then they cant handle NJZ either

[sage venture]

wow looks like HYBE/ADOR never submitted the responses to the formal requests the judge ordered in the 2nd hearing

[upbeat stream]

If the court indeed rejected the kkt evidence (do we know this for sure?) then ador's case becomes significantly weaker

[cinder narwhal]

apparently they have nothing but mhj katalks and wE HAvE a PlAn fOr NEwJaeNs

[mild mist]

Well they also have the payslips

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1948314842584293455

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

Hybe employees were there monitoring and checking online community platforms like theqoo on their phones.

All this company knows is media play and PR

X · Jul 24, 2025, 9:30 AM

[cinder verge]

😭😭😭

[tiny peak]

they're so dramatic, they're claiming they are saving the integrity of the kpop industry. a company whose leader is under investigation for 1B+ dollars fraud

[ashen charm]

Will newjeans send minji on the 14th right I doubt they send hanni whos not all fluent in korean

[tiny peak]

probably would need an interpreter if that's the case

[fierce cloak]

meditation only work if ador reinstate MHJ & old staff, which i bet they will refuse

[native anchor]

thats why i said if it goes well

u dont have to tell me what it takes

i am caught up

[hushed whale]

i think it's not necessarily a single member, it could be 2 or all 5

[craggy skiff]

I think it better if all of them present that day
after all, this is their decision

[bronze talon]

I'm thinking all 5 will attend to feel stronger and have a better feeling tgt

[river sphinx]

this situation is so frustrating

i seriously wish the worst for everyone in those buildings

[upbeat stream]

Guys I keep hearing that the kkt evidence was rejected. Do we have a source for that?

[blazing sky]

massive win in the njz world today no ? I saw on twt that ador confirmed the original CCTV footage was the wrong footage

[sage venture]

it's not accepted or rejected The judge said to answer those formal requests from the 2nd hearing but HYBE/ADOR keep bringing up kkt messages, so it's not that relevant after all

[hollow sorrel]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1948299823255376251

1tokki (@juantokki)

Don’t worry, the court did not accept the KakaoTalk messages as official evidence, nor have they agreed with HYBE’s claims based on them. In fact, during the clarification order (석명 명령), the judge formally requested that they refrain from bringing up KakaoTalk messages.

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:30 AM

[ashen charm]

Ador thought it was postponed and forgot to have new evidence

[old cypress]

https://x.com/TokkiLoops/status/1948307179964100980

. (@TokkiLoops)

NJZ: “The members want to continue their careers in entertainment but no longer under ADOR.” They added, “Just going near the ADOR building makes their hearts race, and they need to take antidepressants”

X · Jul 24, 2025, 9:00 AM

but on the plus side looks like today's trial is a W for newjeans

[tawdry vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[old cypress]

people were quick to jump to conclusions when njz lost the injunction when sejong didn't really have the opportunity to do a rebuttal

[river sphinx]

the judge told ador to stop bringing up the chats

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/pouchwonki/status/1948315280398319663

shie 🎀 (@pouchwonki)

hanni's post last march... ☹️💔

X · Jul 24, 2025, 9:32 AM

[hollow sorrel]

this is so

[old cypress]

lol nayeon redemption arc

[weak relic]

I don't understand this

Could u explain it pls

[old cypress]

they showed the wrong cctv footage during the injunction

of the manager telling illit to not greet hanni

[hoary frost]

damn, the girls lawfirm did an amazing job

[feral tapir]

HO

watch all the brainrot people still call them liars

[heady gate]

Hold on, the original footage was deleted by a staff. That staff is no longer in HYBE. Now, Ador is saying they showed a wrong cctv footage after the 4th hearings?

[feral tapir]

pure manipulation idk what's on their mind

[old cypress]

yes they basically painted hanni as a liar during the injunction

and today sejong confronted ador about this

[feral tapir]

are we experiencing the beginning of hybe downfall

[old cypress]

it has begun last year with mhj's press conference

[rain spade]

The judge didn't say anything about the wrong footage ?

[feral tapir]

i mean yeah but bsh still there

[heady gate]

let me check X. omg

[blazing sky]

this is a massive win tho

[old cypress]

ador admitted that they turned in the wrong footage and claimed that the right one got automatically deleted after 30 days

[blazing sky]

like it just shows everyone who used that as evidence against them to hate were just wrong the whole time 😭 nobody is gonna admit wrong though

[rugged dagger]

can you send where you saw this pls

[blazing sky]

just like hanni said from the beginning, she said she asked the security for the footage and they said it was deleted. then ador showed this footage. everyone called hanni a liar and manipulative when in reality it was the wrong footage and people were wrong

[copper current]

I know it is Hanni who takes the antidepressants, they bullied her so much and labelled her as liars, my poor Hanni, I hope you stay strong 🙏

[old cypress]

https://x.com/Koreaboo/status/1948336130488983829

Koreaboo (@Koreaboo)

ADOR Admits What Really Happened With Controversial "NJZ's Hanni And ILLIT" CCTV Footage
https://t.co/fbngntmpER

X · Jul 24, 2025, 10:55 AM

[blazing sky]

I remember bringing it up on Reddit and I got down voted to the extreme 😭

[copper current]

The whole kpop groups gang up on her, such trash people

[river sphinx]

who do you guys think will represent them at the court mediated settlement

[old cypress]

I'm thinking all 5

[river sphinx]

Source said a member so if not all 5 then it will definitely be Minji to represent them I think. Hanni did an amazing job representing them and we are so proud of her but she should rest after everything she went through especially when she is such an easy target to harass in the media

[rugged dagger]

ty

[old cypress]

Correct me if i'm wrong but it requires at least 1 member to represent njz but all 5 can attend

[copper current]

I hope Minji represents, Hanni is bullied too much right now.

[empty halo]

so hanni had her reputation ruined, got labelled a liar and a bunch of other horrible things bc ador did an "oopsie"

[heady gate]

I would say her reputation is ruined. She is an easy target, bc she is a foreigner.

[old cypress]

I wouldn't say her reputation is ruined since it's mostly hybecels who hate her

[mild mist]

? We always knew that that wasn't the incident, and we always knew that hybe 'accidentally' deleted the footage? All this shows is that K-pop Reddit is brain dead, but we knew that already?

[old cypress]

yeah we knew that from day one

[devout quest]

can someone summarise what else happened at the court hearing other then ador lying about the cctv footage or was that all we got from it? im a little lost in it today

[empty halo]

not all, but quite a few general fans think shes a bitter mean girl who hates illit at the moment. this will probably fade away once their careers are on track again, but it's still quite a large amount of people feeling this way

tiktoks and reels calling her a liar get hundreds and thousands of likes, theres a big hate train against her

[mild mist]

Thanks TAG

And not the watch company

[old cypress]

I don't think it can be summarized in a concise way

[feral tapir]

THATS WHAT AM SAYIN

[feral tapir]

NO MY SHAYLA

[tawdry vessel]

large amount of bots

[empty halo]

bots that sway public opinion. i know people irl who were convinced about her being evil bc of the side public opinion seemed to sway towards (which was influenced by bots)

[feral tapir]

hanni on antidepressants tickles a part of my brain in the wrong way

[old cypress]

there's always people who go with the wind. If njz wins they'll flip again

[feral tapir]

i hope they secretly use discord and are in this server so they see that people are actually on their side🥀

[empty halo]

the wind going the against njz was bc of that footage, and it might not seem that crazy to us bc hate trains come and go in kpop but imagine being the individual who's the target (hanni in this case)

the footage had a considerable impact on public opinion imo

[feral tapir]

indeed

[old cypress]

not really considering that newjeans are still very very popular

[empty halo]

also it's crazy how normalised hate trains are in kpop

[old cypress]

what we see on kpop internet is a tiny part of what's out there

[feral tapir]

ong people are normalizing things that shouldn't and it's absolutely ridiculous

[old cypress]

jennie and wonyoung get hated on all the time and they're still the top celebrities in korea

[empty halo]

those hate trains are somewhat different from hanni's hate train, they're hated for being "cringe" (which they're not) but hanni was branded as a genuinely EVIL bully

[feral tapir]

i just don't understand the concept of hating on someone just because you don't stan their group or other stupid reasons like what level of brainrot is this

[empty halo]

garam's case was bigger, but hanni's hate train is a little more similar to hers than it is to wonyoung or jennie's

[novel fiber]

kor public is very susceptible to media play, been like this for decades. they love to support celebs when they are winning and love to pile on when they are losing.

[heady gate]

Aug 14 is three weeks away. I am wondering how much development of BSH's case during three weeks. 😆

[south vale]

there are tons of toxic individuals who always hating on groups or someone just because some little problems like minji case with kagutsu

I means,it shouldn’t have to be like that,and it shouldn’t mean to be a problem

[empty halo]

that's why im saying a lot of them got influenced by the hanni hate. this isn't permanent and they'll come around to her when njz re-debuts but a lot of people have a negative opinion of her rn. not the majority of people but a lot of them

[south vale]

They are trying to make story more complicated just because small thing

[copper jetty]

I'm bawling in the parking lot rn reading the updates where some members have had to take antidepressants... the way they helped me through mine and now some of them are depressed too... I'm so angry and triggered.

[empty halo]

is there a comprehensive article that covers everything that happened at court today

[feral tapir]

thats what im saying they always take the most meaningless things so seriously for no reason like man go touch some grass why are you so pressed about it

[novel fiber]

also u gotta rmbr that online communities and commentors, the most vocal ones, are very small part of korean public. these people are online 247. while the online stuff may influence kor public opinion, it doesnt actually reflect what most koreans think. most koreans know a bit about njz situation, but most do not care and are busy living their own lives.

[empty halo]

true

[feral tapir]

yeah

[novel fiber]

if njz redebutted in kor they would be successful and easily have public support. what would stop them is hybe putting more money into media play or pressuring companies not to work with them.

[old cypress]

but kor public is still with njz so...

[south vale]

agreed,some person too obessed

[feral tapir]

yeah and then there are these international people talking shit when they don't even know half of the situation acting like they know everything and justifying their hate with it

[mild mist]

A lot of them are just bandwagon jumpers

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[waxen musk]

I know it distresses us a lot, but I really think you can't do anything but give it time for these horrible people to move on. Nobody has the energy to "care" about something they hate forever. There are examples I can think of where this happens. I don't think people's minds will ever change because they're misinformed, but they will one day not even think about it.

[mild mist]

Lots of things we're said
Apparently the judge told ADOR to give up with the kakaotalk, he doesn't care

[copper jetty]

Why aren't sejeong's argument, even the recording of Lee dokyeong not being reported on in korea... or even the media? Hdjdjsjdjdbdbf

[empty halo]

i saw a tweet from a tokki who ive followed saying based on what the judges responses have been, it seems like the verdict is gonna be siding w ador 😭
im confused about how today went

[mild mist]

I guess it depends on who's translating

[waxen musk]

Oh guess it's all over then. Stop the celebration guys.

Honestly, we can't tell how things are going because we heard literally nothing from the judges today.

All we know is that NJZ's side presented everything that we've been begging for them to present since the begininng. So they did a good job in our eyes.

[hoary frost]

😭😭 Im crying, ador is such an loser

[waxen musk]

Obviously the timing of the anniversary before this hearing was perfectly times for Ador to "prove" they still care (with just the live stream and 5 minute video lol), but now this hearing is over and no more are upcoming... do you think this is it and they won't even bother trying any more?

I just wonder when Ador will visibly give up or if they never will.

[rugged dagger]

why cant i find anything on "lee dokyeong"

[feral tapir]

fuck this

[rugged dagger]

who is this person. i saw someone write it as lee doo kyung also cant find who this is

[feral tapir]

someone just bomb hybe already🥀

[modest sluice]

any mediation is a failure if hybe and fakedor's attacks and sabotage go unpunished — they will only continue endlessly.

The top choice remains to leave korea and call for economic sanctions on that trash country."

[waxen musk]

Wait sorry I didn't even see but I said in my response we heard nothing from the judges, but you're saying this person heard the judge's responses. Can you link this Tweet or summarise what they said. It's important to know what the judges said.

[copper jetty]

*x https://x.com/njzallday/status/1946907267624034323?t=ofLUacjJMFn_q2wMryxB9Q&s=19 -c

[harsh dove]

@njzallday <t:1753013839:d>

A HYBE company executive sued a defamation to op about rejecting the bragging rights for NewJeans Tokyo Dome and Debut Pop-Up event (events she did not take part of).

The case was dismissed by the police... She objected about it but the objection was also dismissed 💀

[red thorn]

Huh this account disappear

[cinder narwhal]

🕵️

[copper jetty]

This is her. She included debut pop up store and the Tokyo dome on her linked in (basically taking credit for it) despite joining Ador on Sept. 2024. Long before the debut and the Tokyo dome event (July 2024). 💀