NJZ Updates and Discussion

[short laurel]

Old Bollywood was good n more diverse. When will bollywood include far east india

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100% a lot of older Bollywood felt like it has artistic expression and value

[short laurel]

There are still good bollywood movies released in last decade but fewer than be4

1 good thing about kpop companies coming to India, indian artists can finally c new stuff with this new competition n explore art again.

I had enough with india artists still make music that fit tastes of boomers

[still badge]

One of my biggest issues with current modern bollywood is in my opinion like a horrible representation of women and ik I may sound like crazy but omg it's like every female character in every film is written to be the same way and like written and directed to be eye candy and have no character at all meanwhile the other romantic male lead in the film who's like (30 years older btw) has all the jokes and character moments and it's so annoying and genuinely sexist to me

[still badge]

Real

[short laurel]

Even male characters no longer have much character development

[still badge]

True

I feel like so many actors in Bollywood aren't actors they all play good looking and like overly masculine or feminine ppl and idk like I think actors should be more vulnerable and like experimental than that imo

And not that like it's an issue to play roles like that not at all but like

I rarely see like the big actors put themselves out of their comfort zone

And ik this can be said ab any industries but a lot of extremely popular actors in Bollywood are like literally criminals 😭

Ik I sound like a bollywood hater I'm really not I genuinely love indian cinema when it has meaning and passion and like something artful behind it I just don't like the corporately made films

[short laurel]

It's time for big actors to take on rolls of dad. They too old to keep Playing young hero roles.

[short laurel]

Tiger. 0 acting skills, 1000 action skill

[rugged dagger]

do you guys remember how happy we were when the pit stop teasers were releasing

we were almost so back

[empty halo]

https://tenor.com/view/njz-newjeans-bunnicula-cookie-cookies-gif-5988452836732272210

they were so cute 💔

[still badge]

LMAOOO YESS

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1940950380906680682?t=5nEt8JpWn9NliPVFzlAubQ&s=33

🫧 (@catzkang)

According to the financial investment industry on the 3rd, the FSS plans to report to the Financial Services Commission that BSH should be reported to the prosecution soon for suspected fraud and unfair trading under the Capital Markets Act.

https://t.co/wyhadi0ghn

X · Jul 4, 2025, 1:46 AM

[short laurel]

Save the article be4 hybe get it removed

[red thorn]

"where you get the source? It's misinformation, even the outlet takedown the article"
I literally saw that kind of comment when this hybe news broke out

[short laurel]

This one is up on naver atleast

If the other one was really misinformation, we wouldn't have this article

[red thorn]

They don't want to believe in hybe's principle we believe media control

[copper jetty]

Also the fact that they raided Korea exchange?

[copper jetty]

Shhh... that's not part of their narrative hybe is innocent and can do nothing wrong. They're just a small company, they can't control the media.

[red thorn]

Also saw someone made megathread about bsh alleged fraud in reddit and around same time there's megathread NJZ appeal fail
The contrast reaction is expected
The later one isn't even worth the megathread

[copper jetty]

Also why make a megathread of old news? Appeal failed days ago and the girls are just not gonna go through with it, while bsh fraud is ongoing right now.

[red thorn]

Oh this was when the appeal verdict news came and yeah the IPO thing been ongoing and more worth the megathread

[copper jetty]

Lmao... they keep up with the news and updates more than the fans... even if some of us don't keep up with what's happening anymore, they be updating us. This is why NewJeans Never Die.

[hollow sorrel]

best news ever

praying he gets the best of both worlds (jail time + penalty in the trillions)

[cinder verge]

ive been really disconnected recently can someone give me a summary of what the legal situation is like rn

and how long is it expected before things get finally sorted out

[waxen musk]

🍀

Is the BSH news actually spreading today, unlike yesterday?

Still feels too early to celebrate.

[waxen musk]

Injunction appeal failed. All focus will be on the main trial now. 3rd hearing is on the 24th. Some people predict witnesses in August. Some people predict 4-6 hearings. I don't trust these people, but I don't know what to expect. Seems like end of year is absolute earliest to expect a conclusion but also maybe unrealistic. However, not that long ago, people expected things would take years to resolve. I wouldn't expect anything in terms of time scale.

[waxen musk]

*x -c https://x.com/luenacore/status/1941012359423946905

[harsh dove]

@luenacore <t:1751608383:d>

Since Bang Si-hyuk loves fame and attention, he's finally getting exactly that, his face is all over the newspapers in South Korea for potential criminal charges and HYBE's declining stocks 😊

#JAILBANGPD

[lapis tendon]

tag pr bots working overtime lol

[copper jetty]

You guys think this investigation about bsh will amount to something? Cause from what I know, the FSS submitted their investigation to the prosecution and we still don't know if Hybe's connections will do the heavy lifting to have him acquitted or not even prosecuted.

[mild mist]

Honestly, no idea
He's rich and successful enough to be protected, but if the government and the fraud office want to make an example of hybe, then they'll have no defence

[short laurel]

they should make an example of hybe. to scare everyone else and damage ppp supporting company.

[old cypress]

he's rich but he's still new money in the chaebol world (and acts like one), if he's in deep shit he'll lose his connections

[short laurel]

also on paper chaebols are under stricter antitrust scrutiny. they may not apply it on older chaebols but on newone like BSH they will.

also chaebol is very lose here. hybe is still maintaining it's high position thx to bts alone. while their other groups are big, they are not as big to maintain this high position for hybe once bts are out.

[mild mist]

I kinda want to see reddit's reaction if he's found guilty
But I don't really because it's Reddit and I don't hate myself enough to read it

[subtle matrix]

That's kind of a stretch. BTS made hybe into what it is today but remove them and I'm pretty sure hybe is still the best selling and most streamed korean label in the bg/gg space

[upbeat stream]

That's true but you have to consider that the other kpop companies are nowhere near the real giants. How much bigger than them do you have to get to be considered a chaebol?

Remove BTS and Hybe probably loses at least 50% stock value, and I'm being conservative.

[short laurel]

i m talking about chaebol status.

[short laurel]

remove bts and hybe will be just about as big as other big 3. being conservative

[bronze jetty]

tbl has annie who also has chaebol status

[subtle matrix]

Sorry I misunderstood the context

[red thorn]

Not nouveau rich chaebol level

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1941058326235955410

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie)

maybe just shut down hybe for good and set everyone free...

X · Jul 4, 2025, 8:55 AM

lmao is this real? anyone has the OP

OP https://www.mediawatch.kr/mobile/article.html?no=257831 just an editorial but i love it

[old cypress]

mhj ceo of hybe lmao

[waxen musk]

Someone in the main chat is assuming MHDHH get paid for the new videos fake ADOR is putting out. Can we even assume this?
Made me question, what would the girls not be getting paid for?

I assume ADOR with them believing the contract was never broken is just continuing to pay them how they would normally. If they didn't, then that would be a contract violation.

[red thorn]

Hmm the new videos context huh
It's not like they get direct royalty from the views percentage, if that's the case I would consider to watch haha

[old cypress]

this is correct

[subtle matrix]

How is their pay determined? % of company revenue?

[old cypress]

it's per type of activity, usually it's % of the operating profits

[waxen musk]

I just generally don't know when standard K-pop contracts pay to the artists vs don't. I can't assume it's a general percentage. Probably depends on the type of content. Music gets royalties. But other things, no idea. Obviously they get paid from advertising contracts. But everything else, I really don't have a clue.

[old cypress]

There are many kpop contracts available online you can easily see how the profit is distributed

[waxen musk]

Anyway I don't feel the need to worry about them becoming poor any time soon. I'm just wondering because of someone in the main chat automatically assuming watching these new videos is supporting the girls.

It's always an awkward balance of how much does it benefit ADOR vs the girls. For things like these videos, I feel like ADOR is doing it for nefarious reasons to use as proof to the court in the future.

[old cypress]

they just want a pretext to enjoy the entertainment guilt-free

[waxen musk]

But I also see so many arguments saying to not stop streaming the music, to make them still relevant and wanted in the industry. To make advertisers continue to want them when things hopefully go the right way in the future.

[old cypress]

advertisers know better than look at spotify charts

[waxen musk]

I'm not just talking about the music, just relevance in general. Which they still are.

They're still on everyone's minds, it seems. Good or bad.

I do wonder if new merch comes out, if people will genuinely buy it. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.

That feels like it's more obvious ADOR is doing it for their own benefit. I think more people would understand not supporting new merch, than they do supporting these new videos.

[old cypress]

ador's videos don't have a lot of views so nobody is making a lot of money from this

[waxen musk]

I know, the money involved with their YouTube videos is so irrelevant.

ADOR isn't doing it for the money. Like I said, they're doing it for nefarious reasons to use as proof to the court in the future.

[red thorn]

To split bunnies

[old cypress]

yeah so when people mention it, they're just using it as an excuse to enjoy the content without feeling guilty. But honestly if they wanna watch, they can, it's not really a big deal at all. Nothing will change whether these videos are girlcotted or not

[waxen musk]

Which makes me think maybe they won't do merch unless they're really desperate for money. Merch wouldn't be useful for them strategically in this battle.

[waxen musk]

I agree. I really don't think wondering about giving them a view or not is all that worth the worry. But, I choose not to because it's pretty easy to not give the view anyway. It's really not hard.

[old cypress]

Ador is uploading the videos to show that it's business as usual and they're still supporting newjeans. Not giving them views don't really change much yeah

[waxen musk]

Exactly.

[old cypress]

if you give them a lot of views they could say "see bunnies miss ador and they want njz to go back" and if you give them none, they could say "see njz lost all popularity by splitting off, they should go back to ador"

[waxen musk]

They do the minimum when it comes to proving to the court that they still have MHDHH's interests in mind. You already saw how unconvincing their future producer plans were. The videos are just an extension of that. But they do such a poor job. Didn't they celebrate streaming milestones for a while, and then nothing for a while, including not even mentioning some new award that NewJeans won, then more silence, and then suddenly videos started coming out. Everything is for a reason. KJY isn't just doing it because she misses the girls.

It pisses me off how the injunction went, and that document that basically just believes ADOR's word on everything.

Makes it impossible to talk to people who have seen the ruling. You can't just say the court is wrong, even if you explain it well. Let's hope this main lawsuit disproves what that injunction ruling says.

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[heady gate]

Do not forget this.

[short laurel]

https://n.news.naver.com/article/293/0000069466?lfrom=twitter
Bsh once again not going to court on sm kakao stock trial, he running to usa on 25th july for business

[red thorn]

Hybe convenient store

[copper jetty]

They're not investigating him for the kakao thing right? Is that why he was able to go out of the country?

[short laurel]

Yea. But his ipo investigation should stop him from leaving

[heady gate]

They have 20 days to stop him

[short laurel]

It said the investigators are pressing prosecutors to start the sanction process against him. What does it mean?

Hmm that article not posted here. It was on naver

[copper jetty]

Well it was forwarded to the prosecution but technically, there's no arrest yet so he can still fly out not until that warrant is issued.

Watch him fly out to the US and not come back to Korea because of this. He'll just manage Hybe America and have 🛴 manage Hybe.

Exchange places.

[red thorn]

Oh right 🛴 isn't ceo anymore, some people think he is being demoted but in actuality he is inside the council now

[copper jetty]

Yeah... imo it's a promotion. He's at the central office now compared to previously being in a subsidiary.

[wary creek]

hmm trying to catch up on news, i see one article on police raiding korea exxchange offices not hybe building and scooter braun stepping down as ceo of hyber america

[short laurel]

Raiding korea exchange office to investigate bang's fraud matters. 🛴 is promoted to counsel in hybe as he steps away from hybe america.

[karmic thunder]

someone summarise whats happened

[short laurel]

i just did right be4 ur msg

[karmic thunder]

i see ty

[short laurel]

yup classic Lia. spreading lies

[bronze talon]

is that the lia i put on the mute list?

dont tell me
let me 100% check if its rly that acc

💀

[short laurel]

there are few more account poping up recently spreading same lies as lia.

[bronze talon]

oh no
i love when people fall for misinfo

[empty halo]

unbelievable misinfo

they got raided like yesterday what do u mean hes been found guilty

[red thorn]

Embarrassing
Lia and another one I forgot the account

[lapis tendon]

the account that made the 99% chance of winning tweet

[bronze talon]

💀

[atomic echo]

🎷🐛

[copper jetty]

July 18 seems so far...
Is there nothing we can do anymore for them to come back earlier than they should've... I miss them so much.

[waxen musk]

Were we successful?

[pearl cipher]

💯

Why have my reactions to posts been disabled??

[analog depot]

I have a question- is it still okay for me to stream NewJeans music on
Spotify or should I find others way to stream their songs??

[lapis tendon]

the girls still get paid from spotify

[bronze talon]

you shouldnt care for that at all, listen to music that you like which is also the best way to support and still show you care for them imo

-mp3

[tall dew]

NewJeans songs in high quality (flac): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1t3bSbrrJZipOD3fhDVZGLKYnwTUWJK8n?usp=sharing

[ashen charm]

Yes they are still getting royalties for merch albums sponsors music being sold they are still receiving checks from ador

[hollow sorrel]

this made me so mad

pro HYBE outlets are doing media play pushing the narrative that "If management shakes, it will affect artist activities" so Bang Si Hyuk shouldn't be jailed because BTS still has a comeback coming

but where was all this when they fired Min Heejin without any reason and messed with ADOR management???????

[cinder narwhal]

lmao where was the same energy for newjeans

[red thorn]

I'm sure BTS gonna be somewhat fine without him, they can self-produce lol
At the least he can just give input here and there

[hollow sorrel]

I also found it extremely weird how they use BTS name to cover up his criminal activity

he is a criminal who happens to produce for BTS so we should excuse him?????

[red thorn]

What media outlet is that btw

[hollow sorrel]

?osen? I’m not sure

I just saw the screenshots on twitter

[hushed whale]

ye osen https://m.entertain.naver.com/home/article/109/0005344385

[short laurel]

Disgusting

[copper jetty]

That's disgusting. As far as I know those guys already produce. What management does bsh have in bighit if he doesn't produce songs?

[mild mist]

Can we just lock him up and throw away the key

[short laurel]

Melt it. Also melt the keyhole so they can't make duplicate or lock pick it

[hoary frost]

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/nwjnsev/status/1941902312148004983

sevynn ⭑.ᐟ (@nwjnsev)

the jokes write themselves atp.

X · Jul 6, 2025, 4:49 PM

[wary creek]

how does bts activities condone criminal activities lol

[copper jetty]

Where does it say that there?

Pro Hybe media is just saying that if BSH goes to jail, since BSH "apparently" oversees BTS whole production, then the activities of those guys is affected.

Same way with MHJ but yeah... where was this energy then when they kicked her out?

[wary creek]

i was being sarcastic haha. i'm saying that it's dumb reasoning to think that the law should care if BTS activities is affected or not.

[mild mist]

Is that the case for every crime in Korea?
"We have found you guilty of shoplifting. Sentencing will take place next week after we have assessed whether this will affect bts tour ticket sales"

[upbeat stream]

He's not even that important anymore. Their main producer is Pdogg. And the members can manage things themselves

[copper jetty]

Welp... my bad then, I'm not good at reading sarcasm online.

[copper jetty]

Lmao certainly not the case for every crime in Korea but I'm just laughing cause in the article the "policymakers" are calling out for a more "balanced" approach.

Like what does that even mean?

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/catzkang/status/1942589764752007332

[harsh dove]

@catzkang <t:1751984466:d>

Today, ADOR submitted documents that outlines their arguments to the court (July 8, 2025). - Main Lawsuit

[red thorn]

It seems just a fandom drama, a fraud event organizer for Dani's birthday, taking credit/not credited fans works cmiiw

[upbeat stream]

https://n.news.naver.com/article/023/0003915900

Financial authority plans to refer him to prosecution. Formal decision on the 16th but it's highly likely now since the internal deliberation body has already decided

Let's fucking go!

[storm warren]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1942687533542101100

cato is back w translations 🩵

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o)

Article

July 9 2025

[Exclusive] Financial Authorities to File Criminal Complaint Against HYBE Chairman Bang Si-hyuk for Stock Market Fraud

First Disciplinary Action Against a Key Figure by Financial Authorities Under the Lee Jae-myung Administration

Link to follow

X · Jul 8, 2025, 8:49 PM

[upbeat stream]

I wonder who the other 3 are. Guessing Park Ji-won, Lee Jae-sang are likely involved

[waxen musk]

Is there any way this doesn't go exactly how we all want it to?

[upbeat stream]

I've seen speculation on reddit that it's a negotiation tactic by the new government, they want something from hybe. Feel like this would be a rather extreme tactic though?

[red thorn]

I'm hoping for something but not expecting something
If that's makes sense

[copper jetty]

Am i the only one weirded out that they're announcing this to the media? They can just swoop in since they know bsh can travel abroad. Idk if it's the government making an example of Hybe so they want media coverage (i doubt that) or they want something from them or it's warning hybe that they'll move in the next few days.

This is like, telling criminals they'll arrest them in the next few days so (maybe) get out of the country so idk if anything's going to happen (hoping but I'm not expecting.)🙄.

[heady gate]

My speculation is that the FSS and the Police Agency want to make a good impression on the new president. Someone must sacrifice for others' ambition. 😅

[cinder narwhal]

this is crazy. people still ruin things despite what the fandom is going through smh

[midnight yarrow]

Keep in mind that ridding the stock market of rampant corruption and fraud exactly like this is one of the main issues, if not THE main issue, the new president ran his campaign on.

I think BSH is cooked. He's the perfect opportunity for the new president to make good on his promises and make an example out of him

[heady gate]

https://en.asiatoday.co.kr/view.php?key=20250709001100066

[short laurel]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1942795426010390708
https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1942795429684600999

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o)

Article

July 8 2025

[Exclusive] Investigation Expands Into Reporters’ Insider Trading—More Stocks and Methods Expected to Surface

They allegedly wrote positive news articles, sold the stocks after prices surged, and made substantial profits in the process.

Link to follow

X · Jul 9, 2025, 3:58 AM

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o)

At least 20 current and former journalists are under investigation by prosecutors and the Financial Supervisory Service (FSS) for allegedly using confidential corporate information obtained during news coverage to make illicit profits through unfair stock trades.

Song Soo-jin
..

X · Jul 9, 2025, 3:58 AM

[hoary frost]

[copper current]

throw all these journalists to jail, they are so evil and murderers in disguise behind the keyboard, I want all of NJZ's pain and bunnies' pain are being paid back

[short laurel]

Man they going hard against him. I wonder what mediaplay hybe doing to cover this?

[short laurel]

Payback in x10

[heady gate]

And don't you know how sweet it tastes? (How sweet it tastes)

[short laurel]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1942635066984915343?t=wv0XI2Dvp5LKhzP67Ebllg&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki)

A Tale of Two Standards: Why Is Bang Si-hyuk Handled with Gloves While Min Hee-jin and NewJeans Were Burned at the Stake?

Reading this article: "Golden Time for K-pop’s Global Rebound… Could It Be Undermined by the “Bang Si-hyuk Scandal”? by OSEN reporter Choi Yi-jung

X · Jul 8, 2025, 5:21 PM

@twilit lark

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1942685703537844365?t=9uxKUvPmRTrPCaRysSpYrg&s=19

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o)

Per KTokki

“So it was the reporter who did the exclusive interview with the Belift Lab CEO last year.Turns out, they’ve been a loyal dog of HYBE for a long time. It’s not just one or two reporters here, the whole outlet is basically HYBE’s lapdog. Especially female reporters.”

X · Jul 8, 2025, 8:42 PM

it is disappointing to c female making such articles against mhj n supporting hybe.

[cinder narwhal]

karma

[short laurel]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1942757065501597753
https://x.com/catzkang/status/1942757896401608773
Lol

🫧 (@catzkang)

I want to sincerely apologize for posting about HYBE and BSH, and for sharing his face on my timeline. I understand that this might have made some people uncomfortable, and for that, I am genuinely sorry. I refuse to stay silent when I believe the truth is being hidden or

X · Jul 9, 2025, 1:25 AM

🫧 (@catzkang)

I feel strongly that people deserve to be informed about what is really happening, and I don’t believe that staying quiet is the right thing to do in situations where transparency is lacking. I also want to make it clear that I won’t just "shut up" or stop talking about things

X · Jul 9, 2025, 1:29 AM

[copper jetty]

Yeah but when government announce that they're going to take action in the next few days, what it's doing is actually warning the people u want to arrest to escape. What they should do is just do things silently. If they want media coverage for this they can do it once the perpetrators are caught cause even if they don't have media at the time of the arrest, since Hybe is such a big company, word will still get out and be sensationalized. So i don't really see the point in them releasing this piece. 🤷‍♀️

[short laurel]

idt it's the government who are doing it. it's police and FSC going all crazy over it. even during yoon's run this news was making media. so i really don't think government has any hand in the media on this.

and they raided stock exchange so it was bound to have high coverage.

[copper jetty]

Yeah but Those investigating is still part of the government. I don't think they had any hand in the media but they should've just kept this hush.

[short laurel]

not easy after they raided stock exchange.

[copper jetty]

True... but tbf they already revealed this long before they raided korex

[hollow sorrel]

if the criminal complaint goes through he can no longer leave the country

[hollow sorrel]

praying Lee Jae-sang is involved just because of this remark of his

[copper jetty]

Well I'm low key scared that he might get out of korea before the criminal complaint goes thru. I remember he sent a letter that he can't go to the kakao hearing because he has a business trip. I forgot what day he was supposed to go.

[short laurel]

much later than next week.

[copper jetty]

Well thank God then. Let's wait and see what happens with this. I'm expecting nothing though. I feel like we've been through this before especially with how it went with Hybe losing their best company status thing.

*x https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1942685884635308135?t=e-3Achz5A2C0RACr-CL4vQ&s=19

XOXO 🤍 GG (@thegreatgaram)

The result of HYBE filing a police report against MHJ last year 🤷🏻‍♀️

X · Jul 8, 2025, 8:43 PM

Almost spit the water i was drinking when I read this.

Then I remember MHJ's smiling picture when she went out of that police station.

[river sphinx]

they followed the rules so well that the financial authorities decided to file a criminal complaint

[mild mist]

Damn that would be satisfying

[copper jetty]

*x https://x.com/bborbnz/status/1810568873512686066?t=TLJKklKs28I7N0rJtgcR9g&s=19

[harsh dove]

@bborbnz <t:1720508232:d>

[empty halo]

[old cypress]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1932674810821406884

🫧 (@catzkang)

Lee Jaemyung, President of South Korea, said on June 11, that he wants to introduce a “one-strike-out rule” for unfair stock trading.

President Lee gave this order during a meeting at the Korea Exchange Market Surveillance Committee. He said, “To make the capital market strong,

X · Jun 11, 2025, 5:42 AM

they're making an example out of bang pd

he's gonna take the fall instead of the other chaebols

[old cypress]

It doesn't matter, his assets and bank accounts are in korea

[midnight yarrow]

the president will look weak and instantly lose credibility if he doesn't make an example out of BSH

I hope he gives him the fine (double the amount of the fraudulent transaction) AND imprisons him. Ruin that slimy bastard

The new president said these exact words (roughly; it's a translation):

"I will clearly show that playing around in the South Korean stock market will lead to ruin and shame.”

[old cypress]

yeah they might just destroy bang pd and leave the other chaebols alone

or they might just give him a moderate fine and call it a win, we'll see

however even if they slap bang pd with double the amount of the fraudulent transaction, he's still a billionaire

[empty halo]

when a politician's personal agenda for PR benefits ur side

[midnight yarrow]

I wonder if it'll be based on his 400 billion won profit or the entire 1.2 trillion won fraud. Either way, being fined $400 MILLION USD is still a massive massive blow to anyone

I highly highly doubt BSH has that much money in liquid cash.

[old cypress]

He'd have to sell hybe stock probably yes

or take a loan against his stocks

[midnight yarrow]

I personally think a fine of that magnitude could financially ruin him

You would need Samsung pockets to not be bothered by a near half billion fine

[old cypress]

Currently he has 2.6B usd worth of hybe stock

so 400m isn't going to ruin him unless the hybe stock crashes completely but it's not likely

[midnight yarrow]

I'm curious if they would do something to his shares as well. I'd have to look over the proposed punishments under their Capital Markets Act

I don't think the President will leave him an out if he's serious about ruining people who do this

[old cypress]

some sources say Bang got 200B won profit while others say 400B, i'm not sure what the real number is

[midnight yarrow]

I've seen most sources state 400B profit with the IPO fraud in totality being 1.2 trillion

[old cypress]

https://www.chosun.com/english/market-money-en/2025/07/09/PTHB7VCBTBEIHENZUWZHR7HXCU/

[midnight yarrow]

If someone defrauded U.S. investors by that amount of money, they'd never see the light of day again

[old cypress]

this one from today say 200B

[midnight yarrow]

Either way, it's far more than that 5B threshold

[old cypress]

yep

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/catzkang/status/1942956222296338673

[harsh dove]

@catzkang <t:1752071836:d>

Today, On July 9, 2025, ADOR submitted evidence in the form of a USB. On the same day, they also submitted a preparatory document. - Main Lawsuit

[cinder narwhal]

damn junn really scammed all creator tokkis huh 💀

[red thorn]

Damn so it's junn

[opaque flicker]

really disappointing

[bronze talon]

this has been going on for months fyi

[copper jetty]

Kinda thought it was him when tokkizone mentioned tokkimap. Really disappointed.

[bronze talon]

all i heard he did was doing the korean translation of the site, not sure if more since it was some time back already

[copper jetty]

Oh I didn't know how he was involved in that but I remember him posting about it in this server at the time when he was doing testing. And I also follow tokkizone, so I was kinda confused cause I didn't know if it was a collab project or what.

[bronze talon]

yea i dont know how much i can share of this project so ill leave it at that but thats basically what i know from my head rn
some just helped him with feedback and testing (also translation as mentioned)
the rest? he did that all by himself

i also came up with some ideas he implemented but yea

[waxen musk]

The situation is upsetting. I saw something about Junnn wanting to take all credit so that if there was any meeting the girls (during birthday or other fan events) that he could take credit directly. Just that idea really pissed me off.

[tranquil badger]

Im sorry i cant find in the chat what junnn really did or tried to as im reading, can yall give me some more context? I know him from when he translated the live chat here

[waxen musk]

Tokkizone’s Tweets prob best to read

[cinder narwhal]

junn's a credit grabber
tokkimap https://x.com/tokkizones/status/1942964899740795037
dearing https://x.com/dearing722/status/1942601361251848602
ktokki https://x.com/ni_gu200190/status/1942297631423934782

Basically he's a credit grabber

[copper jetty]

I'm also upset cause I follow most of this creator tokkis. I donated on some of their projects especially the hk ones at complex. Was Junn also involved with that???

[waxen musk]

I don’t think I’m even aware of all that happened. Mainly just map stuff I’m aware.

[cinder narwhal]

yeah

[waxen musk]

Too much to read and translate in last link. Any quick summary?

I did find it funny that Tikki Tokki had to YET AGAIN announce a removal of a team member.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/bunniezsumida/status/1943039010945049021 💀

Dom⁰⁷⁰² 🏎️🏁 (@bunniezsumida)

“We” prepared bnzforhk bnz zone except he didn’t put in any work nor was he at complexcon and just wanted credit for clout again

X · Jul 9, 2025, 8:06 PM

[waxen musk]

I'm still iffy about that server everyone joins for the NJZ tag. It's really quite an active server. I said a quick hello in there for the first time the other day, but dunno what to think and just haven't said anything since. I shouldn't feel the need to be so cautious around Tokkis.

It's just weird to think how much some of these people have legit contributed. Even that server is really nice for an archive. Same could be said about how much Junnn contributed. Same could be said about how much Taly helped spread the truth. But in the end it all ends up like a nightmare.

[cinder narwhal]

people are people and no one is just plain "good"

[waxen musk]

The more it happens the more I question the reasons why people are being so generous. Are they doing it because they expect something in return? Makes me more and more cynical each time it happens.

The girls have shown so much generosity and love, I just don't want people taking advantage of it. Feels real shit.

[copper jetty]

I just feel upset cause most of these are actually good creators that our fandom needs. I pray that what happened doesn't drive them to go out of the fandom and distance them selves from bunnies.

[waxen musk]

Doesn't drive who to distance from Bunnies?

[copper jetty]

The good creators...

Like kiwisan and seuljeanz who post their arts.

[waxen musk]

Didn't know these people by their names. But their artwork is amazing.

[old cypress]

there's always people trying to get credit, people will move on eventually

[timber shell]

Jun was one of my closest tokki and I didn't know he committed to take all credit

deeply disappointed

[waxen musk]

tokkigleed talking about someone with that tokki greed (sorry )

[timber shell]

[old cypress]

if anything njz should probably stop meeting with famous tokkis casually because tokkis now have an incentive to get their name known

It's amazing that njz has done it but there's a reason idols usually keep a careful distance from fans

[cinder narwhal]

they should meet me instead no strings attached

[old cypress]

get in line

[copper jetty]

Bro I'm reading all that's happening it seems it not just creator tokkis. Even the event organizing???

https://x.com/tokkizones/status/1942976354011828730?t=URxZpKx79ZKx85Ok54d8Eg&s=19

Zones (@tokkizones)

I also heard this from a few months ago that during AAA 2024 in Thailand, Thai bunnies organized and did most of the stuff but the same ktokki "coordinator" was claiming he organized the event but he wasn't even there.

X · Jul 9, 2025, 3:57 PM

[old cypress]

lol this guy is in everything

[waxen musk]

I feel like this is the quietest week (in terms of anything related to the girls directly) basically ever. So something needed to pop off tangentially related to NJZ.

[old cypress]

I wonder why...

[copper jetty]

I mean we still have at least a week and a half before the next court case and also hybe is busy with bsh's alleged fraud.

[waxen musk]

Quiet before the storm.

Just watched the new fake ADOR video (can find it in other server if you wanna watch) and that's just a video of clips from Ditto and Cool With You behind the scenes. Reminded me that I have no idea what happened with Shin Wooseok vs ADOR.

Even stuff like the Ban Heesoo channel deletion feels like ancient history now.

Nice timing. Part 3 available now. I've read 1 and 2 and it's a really interesting read. https://x.com/Bloodstar012/status/1943107037853876238

Bloodstar (@Bloodstar012)

For International Bunnies:
“NewJeans and Microfascism in Korea” now available in English

Part 1

https://t.co/2EAuk87nzo

Part 2

https://t.co/Y8IgDx80pR

Part 3

https://t.co/hST3Z4jIkI

X · Jul 10, 2025, 12:36 AM

[copper jetty]

Fr. Sometimes 2024-2025 feels like it's 10 years instead of 1. There's so many things that happened.

[waxen musk]

Part 3 was a great read too!
It really does explain well why Korean media is the way it is. It does scare me though.

[short laurel]

Wait junn took credit for tokkimap? Wasn't that zone's solo work?

[bronze talon]

development yes

[red thorn]

Juan? Junn?

[bronze talon]

he was given ideas or concepts before and after its release, people helped him translate and test things
the rest was all him finalising it

[bronze talon]

junn

[short laurel]

Which junn?

Everyone seems to know this junn except me

[red thorn]

Hea had his contribution mostly for live translation here
So people know and remember and disappointed

[short laurel]

I thought u guys were talking about juan. Since idk who junn is. I was about to rant n block poor juantokki 😅😭

[polar owl]

Are we seeing more support on Twitter for NJZ? On a few articles on how 'Bomb' bombed, people are at their sarcastic best on Hybe.

Also on posts on K-pop gg not making it to billboard 100

[cinder narwhal]

people just miss them

i enjoy the pettiness though

[wheat raft]

yes just wanted to drop in quickly to say that even though I came up with the idea and everything, meista evee nana etc helped to test and gave feedback/suggestions as well which led to changes to improve and enhance the app

junnn and the korean bunnies did give feedback and suggestions as well but the effort are just limited to that- i was in no partnership or cofounder situation with anyone

apparently alot of korean bunnies dont even know i exist

[wheat raft]

btw these guys are huge Ws they literally want nothing in return and just helping me in the shadows

[copper jetty]

It seems tikkitokki also made an announcement.

https://x.com/tikkitokki22/status/1942976588137615431?t=RCztAm6EREUezjSSabvEIg&s=19

TikkiTokki (@tikkitokki22)

Hello.
Due to actions recently brought to light, Hi_Junnn has been removed from Team TikkiTokki.

I've also been informed he's used his affiliation to our team to gain credibility with some tokkis he messages, which I am genuinely so sorry for. We do not condone his behaviour.

X · Jul 9, 2025, 3:58 PM

[upbeat stream]

First Tim and now Junn

Who else is even in the team? Juan and NJB?

[copper jetty]

I'm just wondering cause there's so many creators that were affected and it seemed like he's the only contact point of itokkis to kbunnies.. wasn't there someone else to contact and that's how things snowballed to this?

[honest sky]

What haopened to Jun

[copper jetty]

#1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1752104586:f>

from scattered___

tokkimap https://x.com/tokkizones/status/1942964899740795037
dearing https://x.com/dearing722/status/1942601361251848602
ktokki https://x.com/ni_gu200190/status/1942297631423934782
[Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[copper jetty]

Just read these and you'll know

[empty halo]

Whats this tokki drama can someone fill me in

Who's Jun......

[cinder narwhal]

in this server he provided real time translations during lives.
outside he organized fan events in korea and is kinda a bridge between ktokkis and itokkis.
in reality he was taking credit for whatever itokkis made. the ktokkis usually didn't even know who the original creators of stuff he shared were

[empty halo]

ohh tysm!

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1943291229640495404?t=XtqdiACeaQ9sRgEz9z7szA&s=19

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o)

Qrt Translated

HYBE hired the same former judge who dismissed charges in the Kim Keon-hee Dior bag case as legal counsel in NewJeans’ appeal.

The judge presiding over the NewJeans appeal was once nominated by Yoon Suk-yeol as a candidate for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

X · Jul 10, 2025, 12:48 PM

[heady gate]

it is going to be rough

[copper jetty]

Seems like Hybe's relationship to former government is being exposed..

Well i do wonder if it's going to fully expose them. Ngl with how Korea is not gonna expect.

[heady gate]

Let's see who is going to lose first, Kim Keon-hee (formal first lady) or NJ

[copper jetty]

Wait is there a trial with Kim keonhee?

[heady gate]

go to https://www.koreatimes.co.kr and search her name Kim Keon-hee

[copper jetty]

Just did it. It's bad. I mean bad for her

[heady gate]

My speculation is if former President Yoon is sentenced, his wife will likely follow soon, then BSH will join them and NJ would win the case.

It is a domino effect.

[subtle matrix]

I still dk why people here think the political situation in Korea affects the NJ case at all. Even BSH being jailed won't have a massive impact imo

[heady gate]

We shall see

[copper jetty]

I have a small hope it will but with what happened to the petition before I'm not gonna hold my breath.

I'll just be happy if the previous Kor president's connections get exposed cause I don't doubt that Hybe is one of those. With how Hybe retracted the employment of one of former 1st lady's close aid when the investigation of bsh fraud and the 1st lady is ongoing. 🤔 it's very timely for it to be a coincident.

[waxen musk]

I'm getting tired of all this exciting talk but only to realise there has not yet been any action.

[copper jetty]

Same but let's remember rome wasn't built in a day.

[pulsar wasp]

is BSK actually convicted now?

[midnight yarrow]

We'll know by the 16th

[silk trail]

jobs bro… jobs

[hollow sorrel]

does anyone know the name of the show/youtuber that interviewed mhj once

they listened to music together and I remember her outfit but not his name

wait I just found it through a gif

https://tenor.com/view/min-hee-jin-newjeans-stan-twitter-messy-eating-gif-16593906549010037501

[fathom canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcA3DsP9r4A

Kim Youngdae

[ashen charm]

The mod jun ?

[opaque flicker]

he was never a mod

just in the tikkitokki sub team

[ashen charm]

The one with the leauge of legends profile pic

[subtle matrix]

Shoulda known it from the start

[opaque flicker]

thats another one, his name was jhin

this is not about him

[ashen charm]

Oh okay I see the the one with the team tokki pfp got it damn crazy sruff

[short laurel]

So silent

[copper current]

Every efforts to jail bang pd and then the corrupted court comes in and will free him. Jail all Korean corrupted judges, blatant corruption and biased

[short laurel]

What happened?

https://vxtwitter.com/catzkang/status/1943509027394318840

🫧 (@catzkang)

The prosecutors asked the court to set a new date for BSH to testify and to fine him, since he keeps skipping out on being a witness without a good reason.

But The court said: "We get where the prosecutors are coming from, but based on the evidence, it doesn’t look like we really need his testimony to decide this case," & canceled BSH's witness status on their own.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 11, 2025, 3:13 AM

hybe is the one who reported kakao but hybe's man is no longer the witness. 🤔

there should still be fine for keep avoiding court when called repeatedly. apparently it's not a thing in korea

[hoary frost]

[empty halo]

was a hearing postponed again

[short laurel]

it's kakao case. completely different. bang was only witness here as hybe reported kakao over sm stocks

[empty halo]

ohh

[copper current]

There should be investigation of Korean judges for bribery and blatant bias towards Hybe -and ex First Lady. Every one knows and nobody points it out. If I am at the court, I will use papers and evidence to slap on their faces that the judges are corrupted

[vital orbit]

the fact that they can pick the judge is crazy

[short laurel]

idt they can choose judge. it's mostly like they hired him as lawyer.

[marble cape]

dior bag scandal?

[short laurel]

yoon's wife's scandal.

[marble cape]

what does that have to do with newjeans tho?

[frank musk]

Uhhh

[frank musk]

Basically the former administration the yoon one

[short laurel]

hybe hired same judge (probably as lawyer) who worked for yoon.

[frank musk]

Yeah there👍

[marble cape]

ohh i read that wrong mb 😭

[waxen musk]

Highly recommend reading these articles.

There are new articles recently published which analyse the injunction ruling, which I've just started reading and can also confirm is extremely well written and insightful.

https://bloodstar258.substack.com/p/analysis-of-the-injunction-ruling
https://bloodstar258.substack.com/p/analysis-of-the-injunction-ruling-bbd

[waxen musk]

Finally read through it all. It was a long read (50 minutes).

I truly do not know what to expect next. I feel more accepting of a possible loss while at the same time remaining hopeful as ever. If even one of the points made in the injunction ruling are going to be contradicted in this next hearing after a more careful examination than was required during the injunction, then I will become even more hopeful. However if things turn out to be a repeat of this injunction, I will really start to worry.

[old cypress]

I'm allergic to em dashes so i'm probably not reading this

[heady gate]

I am not going to read it. The judge may announce a surprise verdict.

[waxen musk]

I recommend reading what I shared previously more than this injunction ruling analysis, it's a lot more interesting (to me): https://discordapp.com/channels/948917131989381173/1231839760759263232/1392666134095986781

This injunction ruling analysis isn't anything new, it's just very thorough at presenting what the judges ruled, explaining it, and then saying why it's wrong. Something I've seen others do. I just was able to understand things a lot easier and while also being more in-depth with this particular analysis.

[vital orbit]

that would also make sense as i felt a bit stupid typing my own message cuz it didnt make sense how they could just pick and choose like that

[short laurel]

A corrupted government can pick their own judge since justice system is under government control in korea but public will never know that.

[upbeat stream]

It's probably translated using gpt hence the em dashes lol

[ashen charm]

yup this what i was worried about its so common in sk and by the time it comes to light its two late power wins in silence

[empty halo]

as a person who's used em dashes since grade 5 its chatgpt-fication hurts 💔

[lyric geyser]

Yeah

Like why are you blaming others for your lack of punctuation skills

Dashes are much cleaner than parentheses

[empty halo]

so real, its not my fault chatgpt has good grammar too 👎

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/luenacore/status/1944023701143662940

[harsh dove]

@luenacore <t:1752326343:d>

NewJeans trial is not going to be a fair trial. They really will have to fight all the way relentlessly, but i'll always be here for them and i do believe one way or another the truth always comes out.

[dull geyser]

bye ily

i havent been on this thread in ages sorry guys im just catching up

unfortunately she's in a group that's still slightly controversial bc of tarzzan but i hope adp is successful in the future

[copper current]

this Kim Hak ja person should be investigated for fraud and abuse of power. ~t https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1944202431405109713

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

The picture is an official document from Mirae Assets where she works (that has deep ties to Hybe)

Here it shows that she was a member of the Financial Supervision Advisory Committee for the FSS back in 2017-2022. The fraud happened in 2019-2020

X · Jul 13, 2025, 1:09 AM

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1841325391711281596

[narrow seal]

241002 1tokki (@​juantokki) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1841325391711281596
Who is Lawyer Kim Hak-ja? The new outside director of ADOR.

During her time as a prosecutor, she was part of the Financial and Tax Investigation Division 1 at the Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office.

After becoming a lawyer, she defended stock manipulation criminal Sung Se-hwan from BNK Busan Bank who is also connected to the LCT Gate scandal.

In August, HYBE appointed her as an outside director for ADOR while currently the Chairman of the Ethics Committee of the Korea Economic Federation (KEF, formerly the Federation of Korean Industries). She is also serving since 2020 as an outside director and audit committee member for Mirae Asset, which has effectively kept HYBE's stock alive.

[empty halo]

celebs in korea break up w partners, alter their bodies forever and will in general do anything to avoid controversy, except take out those damn braids 😭 but that's irrelevant to this thread so I digress

[empty halo]

Im not a black person and idk if you're a black person, what I know : a lot of black people I know, as well as a lot of black people I've seen online, do not like his braids. It feels like a dishonest costume/cosplay. I understand their pov as someone whose culture has also been made into an exotic costume by pop culture sometimes. Hence I don't support it. Im not having a debate over this, bc im not the right person for that and also this is a chat used to discuss the njz situation so have a good day

[short laurel]

waaaait. braids are exclusive to black? seen other color people with it just fine. i m confused what this is about?

[empty halo]

discuss it in #general-chat or #off-topic

[surreal oxide]

Hellooooo I just had a question…

Are we not consuming their content we get from HYBE-
Or are there any accounts that if we were following for NJZ before that we should unfollow now?..

Like anything that bunnies are doing at the present?..

[flint stone]

i just don't watch new videos on youtube (someone load it here) and unfollowed everything except mhdhh instagram and other social media they shared before

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/catzkang/status/1944549528402890901

[harsh dove]

@catzkang <t:1752451710:d>

The Financial Services Commission will make a final decision as early as next week at the regular meeting of the Securities and Futures Commission on whether to file a complaint against Chairman Bang Sihyuk.

https://www.newswhoplus.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=33169

[cinder narwhal]

inb4 rejected lol

[red thorn]

Won't be surprised

[copper jetty]

Do u guys think we'll have a peaceful week this week?

[subtle matrix]

There are 2 hearings on the 18th lol

Oh just 1? I thought both the Source Music and Belift cases had hearings that day

I think I'm right both cases have hearings that day

[copper jetty]

I think both will be on the 18th. That's why I'm guessing if we'll have a quiet week or will the PR ramp up?

[dull geyser]

i unfollowed all newjeans official accounts i'm now only following mhdhh on insta but a lot of people still follow them

i don't watch their content either

[surreal oxide]

Ohhhh I see….What abt the MVs and old music?..

[surreal oxide]

Does phoning still work too?…

[dull geyser]

theres nothing new on there i dont think

i havent checked in ages

[surreal oxide]

Hmmm maybe cuz it was under the Weverse company ryt…

[surreal oxide]

So only mhdhh huh, say what is the meaning of mhdhh 🥲

[sudden tangle]

Minji, Hanni, Dani, Haerin, Hyein mhdhh ^-^

[upbeat stream]

They still get paid their fair share so no issues there

[surreal oxide]

OHH-

[surreal oxide]

Really???
Thank youuu btww everyoneee

[flint stone]

since it was made by og ador i don't see a problem to watch it

[hollow sorrel]

so apparently 4-5 HYBE officials were in on this fraud with Bang Si hyuk.

I'm wondering if he will have to pay penalties, it's very likely that he will sell ADOR.
I've seen accounts on twitter speculating that HYBE will sell ADOR back in August of last year when it turned out that HYBE is in a lot of debt because loans are still not being paid back.

I mean think about it HYBE has a lot of sub-labels and whatnot, but ADOR currently has 0 working artists and it's not really generating any money (+ it's unlikely that the girls will return)

so I think HYBE selling ADOR in the future is a very likely scenario, but tell me if I'm wrong.

[subtle matrix]

Ador not having artists is not an argument for hybe selling it

I think it's the opposite. Without artists, there's very little value for any potential buyers

[hollow sorrel]

hmm true

[subtle matrix]

Hybe really isn't in a bad place financially, they had a really good Q1 and BTS are about to make their comeback

[waxen musk]

Don't forget ADOR has really been pushing auditions for their new boy group.

[cinder narwhal]

BTS the smokescreen era

[tardy smelt]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/home/article/108/0003347556
police investigation concluded in MHJ's favour

[red thorn]

Oh 8 hours yapping police station interview

[bronze talon]

what a surprise (not)

[short laurel]

Took only 1 n half year

[bronze talon]

imagine theyll still work together with mhj after both parties legal battles end
doesnt matter where or how

[short laurel]

I just know reddit will not post about it

[cinder narwhal]

nooooooooo

bring it back queen get that new agency up and running

[short laurel]

Remember court battle still on going. N this increased her chances to win.

Remember court is corrupted n hybe will try to pull something

[bronze talon]

we still waiting for that bana contract sign
imagine mhj joins too

but probably and most likely not happening

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1944939387479060815

imagine a full independent ador from hybe
get all former OG staff back, kick everyone out you dont like/that are new and from hybe
and get the girls back in there. idk how they would manage and run everything cost wise to get comebacks going more often or at all but i think theyll figure it out

idk about just the reinstatement. would somehow counter the members will to not go back anymore. a lot of backlash probably

1tokki (@juantokki)

The police conclusion that Min Hee-jin is NOT GUILTY of breach of duty directly undermines HYBE’s entire justification for:

1. Unilaterally terminating the Shareholders’ Agreement, and

2. Removing her as CEO of ADOR.

So what does this mean, exactly?

HYBE’s justification for

X · Jul 15, 2025, 1:57 AM

[cinder narwhal]

just need to find investors

[empty halo]

[potent lichen]

Oh so she can ask for reinstatement

[opaque torrent]

"betrayal" has no legal meaning. continue talking shit about your corrupt and incompetent bosses

[dry wind]

is there hope guys

[bronze talon]

There is(?) Not sure how much we should expect

[frozen granite]

I miss MHHHD

[heady gate]

MHJ has 2 cases on July 18. I hope she can win both of them.

[hollow shore]

So glad MHJ won this battle. I hope she wins all of them.

[hushed whale]

the police cleared her criminally, we don't know what the police wrote in their report tho

don't know if this is a big or small win for the ongoing civil cases
a win for sure but i kinda feel neutral about the news

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1944911297386307877

🫧 (@catzkang)

Despite disputes with HYBE, the customs office discussed with HYBE&ADOR to continue NewJeans’ promotional ambassador activities. But, judging that further activities by NewJeans would be difficult, both parties mutually terminated the contract.

https://t.co/6k9WLjA3Io

X · Jul 15, 2025, 12:06 AM

mhj posted an ig story lol

[clear hill]

I’m staying delulu and ik it’s hopium atp but In my head that’s the end goal and that ONLY 😭😭🤞

[stone grotto]

Does anyone remember what their reasoning was for the two hybe appointed Ador members to oust her in the first place

[cinder narwhal]

you're not alone lol

[craggy skiff]

this time is a REAL investors
it should not come from Arab, otherwise it will be a big joke

[heady gate]

There was no reason. It is due to the Ador board members votes. 4 of them are appointed by BSH. She couldn't win.

[split bramble]

does it make njz' case stronger?

[heady gate]

no

[stone grotto]

Can they prove hybe had direct involvement with the board directors voting her out though? I know it looks obvious they did

[heady gate]

there is no proof for that

On May 2024, HYBE removed 2 of MHJ aides board members and HYBE added 2 new one.

and it became the image above

[cinder verge]

with mhj winning her case what do we think will happen on july 24 for ador vs mhdhh

also what did bang pd do i have not been tapped in for MONTHS

[sudden tangle]

it’s kind of a separate issue it doesn’t really affect their case

[heady gate]

MHJ has 2 cases on July 18

[cinder verge]

at all? i feel like it would give them some leverage

[heady gate]

MHJ cases don't affect the industry. NJ's case result will affect the entire K-pop industry

[sudden tangle]

unlikely. mhj & njz are entirely separate entities in that situation

[short laurel]

Unfortunate thing about this is, this is exactly hybe wants, to remove newjeans slowly from public

[waxen musk]

Wow what amazing good news to wake up to. It all started because of this claim HYBe made against her. And now that part of the story is finally over? Crazy.

[steel depot]

ahhh finally some good news!

[mild mist]

Misled investors by saying "we are definitely not going to do this"
Before immediately proceeding to do this

[copper jetty]

Yeah I don't know how to feel about this news. Idk if njz can use this, maybe they can..
With this, they can show that Hybe didn't have a reason to kick mhj out, she's tied up to all the process and essential for Ador and her being kicked out without reason can probably help the girls.

I'm hoping, but I won't really expect anything until it happens.

[hollow sorrel]

that defamation lawsuit is going to be HEFTY

[copper jetty]

Is there any statement made by Hybe? I don't see anything in my timeline.

[normal marlin]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1944959220853645732?s=46

🫧 (@catzkang)

LOL, HYBE released statement mentioning MIN HEEJIN, TEAMBUNNIES and SHIN WOOSEOK. All which NJTEAM 😭😭😭😭😭

X · Jul 15, 2025, 3:16 AM

it's linked in that thread

[prisma nova]

WHAT IS THIS NEWS ABOUT MHJ BEING CLEARED

[sinful orbit]

Guys when is the next court? :<

[hollow sorrel]

they filed an appeal to the prosecution

https://t.co/CN1AHVzdMR

because “new evidence came out during NewJeans injunction process”

[waxen musk]

Check the pinned schedule

[hollow sorrel]

but I doubt it will change anything cause NewJeans injunction was like almost a year after this police investigation started???

[sinful orbit]

Thanks

[prisma nova]

SOMEOME EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED TODAY

[hoary frost]

[timber shell]

MHJ's accusation for breach of trust is not guilty and HYBE now filled an appeal for it

[hollow sorrel]

someone said this confirms that all the other lawsuits with MHJ are being dropped, (except the shareholder’s contract one) but it’s too early for me so I’m not sure if that’s true

[prisma nova]

COULD THIS PLAY IN NJZ FAVOR

[hollow sorrel]

yesss

this basically confirms that they forced MHJ out of ADOR for literally no reason and one of NJZ’s main arguments is the shift in structure of the workplace (eg: MHJ leaving)

the korean lawyer who comments on a lot of mhj/njz related things said that complainants do not have the right to appeals

[rain spade]

Weres so baaack bois

[hollow sorrel]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1944978819053666703?s=46&t=rG1o-Bkd-GgDMGG_CtSg2Q

1tokki (@juantokki)

After the 2022 Prosecution Reform (검수완박): If the Police dismiss the case (불송치 결정), there is NO legal avenue for a complainant to formally object or appeal. The “right to object to police dismissal” (이의신청권) was abolished in 2022.

Once police decide not to send the

X · Jul 15, 2025, 4:34 AM

HYBE is so

[red thorn]

Inbe4 those still ongoing

[frozen granite]

HYBE is appealing the ruling ?? Do you guys think they’d change it ?

[rain spade]

no

[hollow sorrel]

apparently you can’t appeal rulings

[polar owl]

They are raising an objection, it appears

[frozen granite]

Ok good hope this is many of MHJ wins & NJZ

[short laurel]

Idk i feel like i didn't understand hybe statement. Or like why i feel like hybe saying opposite of reality?

I m really confused. By each line of hybe statement

[hollow sorrel]

I feel like they are trying to manipulate the public (the usual)

It's a bit similar to when they dismissed MHJ as CEO and all the articles were initially saying she stepped down on her own, when in reality she was voted out by the board.

This case is a bit similar: MHJ was found not guilty
HYBE: we still have evidence and will appeal to the prosecution

[short laurel]

No read after that

These

Didn't court dismissed kkt chat? N court also said since the plan was not implemented mhj didn't breach trust.

So where is hybe's statement coming from?

Were they dismissed? Nvr heard any news on it. I thought it's still ongoing?

[hollow sorrel]

this article is suspicious because it kinda feels like it's just HYBE saying all this stuff idk

maybe we should wait for other articles with more details idk

[short laurel]

It's hybe statement translated.

[hollow sorrel]

yeah but even outside of the quotations it pushes HYBE's agenda which makes sense idk

[short laurel]

Hybe saying opposite of what court said.

[hollow sorrel]

I'm surprised they are trying to appeal when it's legally not possible to appeal???

"After the 2022 Prosecution Reform (검수완박): If the Police dismiss the case (불송치 결정), there is NO legal avenue for a complainant to formally object or appeal. The “right to object to police dismissal” (이의신청권) was abolished in 2022."

[hollow sorrel]

also I just remembered OSEN also published this article from last week that sid "Bang si hyuk going to jail would hinder HYBE artist's activities"

[mild mist]

Sounds like bollocks

Probably a mistranslation

Remember how much disinformation is flying around, think of the sources

And never trust john twitter or reddit

[ashen charm]

she just might this is making her case alot stronger belift no doubt but source music case is alot harder 50/50 on that on

[frozen granite]

Question, why can’t HYBE appeal this?

[red thorn]

The tl so different than mine especially last sentence, change the whole nuance

[ashen charm]

probabbly it was a weak case so they didnt bother

[frozen granite]

So why are people saying it’s not even legally possible to appeal?

I also want to say I am happy this happened but I’m just traumatized from getting my hopes up lol

[red thorn]

Well if you scroll your eyes up a bit someone posted quote on that rule

[frozen granite]

The upcoming 3rd hearing between MDHHH & ADOR is not the last one correct?

[ashen charm]

yeah theres at least a year of this minimum

[frozen granite]

Bruh 🫩

I hope their lucks turns around K-pop is not the same without them …

[ashen charm]

yeah not having njz summer song is kinda sad but more importantly no njz appearances

[upbeat stream]

You can appeal a lost case. There was never a case to begin with. Hybe had reported her to the police so they conducted their own investigation and decided not to press charges

[short laurel]

Give me proper translation

[frozen granite]

I wonder if the girls are writing new songs or coming up with new choreography behind the scenes

[red thorn]

I don't have, we can only compare different machine translation

[craggy skiff]

Since this is not a lawsuit? they can request a re-investigation

[copper jetty]

Apparently you can't request a re-investigation either. Once its done, it's done.

#1231839760759263232 message

[craggy skiff]

ah I see

[sour scaffold]

Is there a news article for this?

[hollow sorrel]

even if they allow for a re-investigation

the only evidence HYBE has is KKT messages which were said by the appeal judge to "Prove that MHJ wanted to restructure ADOR"

idk about yall but I think a year long police investigation holds more credibility than a 4-5 week injunction where the judges just read some written arguments

[copper jetty]

By resumption of investigation that means re investigate... right?

But what would prosecution do when the police itself cleared her and there was no complaint/case filed to prosecution? Where would hybe file this then? I'm getting confused with this.

[tidal crystal]

Wait when is NJZ next court case thingy, sorry, I honestly forgot

[upbeat stream]

The appeals court had said mhj's dismissal is her own fault, which is crazy to me. Did they simply believe whatever K&C told them? Now with the police dismissing her case, I wonder how the main case judge reacts to this.

[hollow sorrel]

24th

[copper jetty]

July 24. Mhj case vs soumu and belift on the 18th.

[upbeat stream]

Because Sejong's main argument is that her dismissal led to an unforeseen change in circumstances, thus njz couldn't continue at ador.

[tidal crystal]

That’s in like what 9 days, damn I remember being like “damn that’s a long time away”

[copper jetty]

How is it mhj's fault?

[copper jetty]

Time flies so fast when u only think of mhdhh

[upbeat stream]

The court didn't disagree with the change in circumstances part, but said the argument is made in bad faith since it's her fault.

[tidal crystal]

I still remember us being all worried about the other court case

[upbeat stream]

idk, they didn't explain. Seems to me that the appeal bench was heavily biased towards K&C and just accepted whatever they said

[copper jetty]

There's no change tho.. I'm still worried about the other cases.

[tidal crystal]

That’s true

[short laurel]

appeals court wasn't even related to mhj case. they had no right to declare anything on a separate ongoing case so their statement shouldn't have mattered.

[copper jetty]

I wonder how this will affect the shareholder's agreement case. Also, if she wins that she can cash out her put option.

[upbeat stream]

Yeah it was beyond ridiculous for them to say that. They should've deferred to the only judgement (at the time) on mhj's case, which is the 1st injunction ruling in May 2024

[short laurel]

which is why i have lil hope. justice system is a joke

u know even that statement is wild to me cuz according to kkt, it was that VP who planned it and MHJ called it crazy.

if i remember it correctly.

[subtle matrix]

You don't

[short laurel]

i m pretty sure i remember it better than you.

[upbeat stream]

I remember that tweet with 70k likes saying "Does Danielle wish to follow mhj to jail?" or something of the sort

[subtle matrix]

Okay lol

[short laurel]

even if MHJ was found gilty it's not a criminal offense. so where people are bringing jail talk.

[copper jetty]

Ngl there's so many accusations that I forgot already what happened since last year. This has been going on for more than a year now.

[short laurel]

kidnapping is actually criminal offense and u saying that is a threat. so yes u can go to jail. MHJ case is different. her taking over ador from hybe is not really a crime. companies do it all the time. it can fall in gray area depending on how you do it. that's why it's not an issue with her case.

[subtle matrix]

I wasn't even aware there was still a criminal investigation about this ngl

[copper jetty]

There was. All the evidences Hybe had from their "audit" was forwarded to the police for criminal investigation.

[short laurel]

they took well over a year in thier investigation

[copper jetty]

Which basically tells you how they did their "audit"...

[wind forge]

So what's next after this?

[copper jetty]

Basically Hybe told Hybe that MHJ breached trust.

Also, why is Hybe not using a third party for audit is really a question i would like to ask.

[copper jetty]

There's still MHJ vs soumu and Belift on the 18th. And the main case for NJZ vs Ador in the 24th. We still have to wait for that

Basically main one is still in the 24th.

[short laurel]

on every accusation hybe faced. their solution has been hybe investigated and found that hybe did nothing wrong.

[copper jetty]

I mean it's easy to cover up

[red thorn]

That account find it bit strange that hybe insisting on submitting an objection instead new lawsuit or complaint

[copper jetty]

Yeah I'm confused too since there was no case filed to the prosecution. Basically there was no case at all so idk how they're going to file or where.

[subtle matrix]

The court determined all the way back in the first injunction that MHJ had no obligations towards hybe, only ador. That was like a year ago? And a civil matter which in theory would be easier to prove. What were they hoping for with this criminal case?

[copper jetty]

No idea at all what hybe was trying to prove with filing it with the police.

I mean, all of this could've been done internally in the first place since April 2024. The fact that Hybe prematurely released PR audit, also just in time for NJS comeback too... that in itself for me was kind of sabotage already.

[mild mist]

They were hoping for literally anything
Which would justify the termination of the shareholders' agreement

[short laurel]

they throw so much at her. nothing stood. instead hybe got in trouble for nearly all of the accusation they put on her.

[mild mist]

I wish they faced some sort of consequences

[upbeat stream]

Yeah, why did it take so long? I remember the police making a statement in September that they are about to conclude

[cosmic belfry]

I assumed someone had them delay this announcement. There is no way it would take over a year for this with no new developments.

[copper jetty]

Sucks to be Hybe but this police PR and the 1st injunction literally contradicts what Hybe did. That's why i wonder how this would affect the shareholder's agreement case.

[copper jetty]

Maybe. Probably new government huh.

[mild mist]

No new government, last elections were in 2024
Shouldn't change anything. Even if there was a change in law it does not apply retroactively

[copper jetty]

Huh... then maybe they did investigate all their might but nothing stuck.

Since MHJ was proven innocent in this I'm gonna bet that Hybe will use soumu and belift defamation case now to justify the termination.

[short laurel]

there should be consequences if a company wastes police time and money(people's tax money) over nothing. idk if there is but i wish there is/was one.

[short laurel]

MHJ has no obligation for soumu and belift. can hybe even use that for her temrination?

[hollow sorrel]

If somehow they re-investigate her it would take another like 6 months+ no?

[subtle matrix]

I would assume so but there won't be another investigation

South Korea, like Japan, is one of those countries with virtually 100% conviction rate. The case only makes it to court if they're very certain it will lead to a conviction

Hence all this discussion about whether BSH will be charged or not when it's pretty clear he did what he's being accused of

[hollow sorrel]

Shin Wooseok statement

[subtle matrix]

So even if there is another investigation on MHJ (unlikely) it'll have the same result

[cerulean ermine]

MHJ not guilty wow

[sage venture]

nope What HYBE did was a third party filing, so objections aren’t allowed unlike in Shin’s case

[mild mist]

Maybe but that's a slippery slope, leading to smaller companies fearing over bringing anything to the police, leading to people getting away with s***

[cinder narwhal]

*x https://x.com/juantokki/status/1944999616732389751 -c

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1752559019:d>

260715 Atty. Lee Hyun-gon Facebook post

HYBE supporters were saying, “Would HYBE really file a criminal complaint without evidence?”

Well, turns out… they actually had no evidence.

Now the case is entering a whole new phase.

Comments:

💬: HYBE is making a fuss again saying they’ll file an appeal. But is that even possible for a complainant?

Logically, if that were allowed, anyone could just keep filing complaints and appeals endlessly to harass people…

💭Yep, appeals from complainants are blocked. Lawyer Kim gave an impassioned explanation about it.

💬 So then… HYBE saying they’ll file an appeal is that just them whining for no reason?

👨‍⚖️ Under current law, complainants (in criminal cases) do not have the right to appeal.

[upbeat stream]

https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/culture/culture_general/1208106.html

[mild mist]

Maybe their question should be "would hybe really write a press release saying nothing?"

Because they have, and will continue to do so

Bet John reddit's absolutely fuming into his cornflakes

[hollow sorrel]

~t https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1945048927125884972?s=46&t=rG1o-Bkd-GgDMGG_CtSg2Q

[narrow seal]

250715 XOXO 🤍 GG (@​thegreatgaram) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/thegreatgaram/status/1945048927125884972
Shin Wooseok's criminal lawsuit has been forwarded to the prosecution through an objection.
SWS can object bc he filed a lawsuit & is a direct party involved.
HYBE cannot object the police's conclusion after a 15-month investigation bc only filed a report & is a third party.

[cinder narwhal]

https://fixupx.com/Imissnjz/status/1944998776025849910

NJZONE (@Imissnjz)

Do you guys really think that this impulsive woman with ADHD, who tells the truth even if her life is at stake, is pretending and lying 😭

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FixupX · Jul 15, 2025, 5:53 AM

just a fun throwback

[rain spade]

[short laurel]

Make it for chaebols to avoid abuse.

[old cypress]

do we have confirmation that mhj other lawsuits are being dismissed?

[cinder narwhal]

the defamation ones? those are unrelated to the breach of trust

[old cypress]

yeah

[smoky mesa]

So basically you're telling me, hybe lied to court multiple times, had min hee-jins career sabotaged, had news outlets make defamatory comments about her and they also unfairly fired her as well all because bongo couldn't handle a girl group not made by him being successful. But hybe stans will look you dead in the eye and say she was "planning" it and when you ask "how?" it's crickets.

[empty halo]

sorry im out of the loop w this, whats the dolphin kidnapping group (???) and eta directors cut

[subtle matrix]

This was a separate criminal complaint, I think all the cases we've been following are still ongoing afaik

[hollow sorrel]

Dolphiner's (or Dolphin Kidnapping Group) is Shin Wooseok's media production company

Shin Wooseok is the director of many NewJeans Music Videos including: Ditto, OMG, ETA, Cool With You

Last August (end of August) MHJ was replaced as the CEO of ADOR.
Early in September the new ADOR management started having issues with Shin Wooseok because he posted a version of ETA (the director's cut) on the channel of his company.

We haven't really gotten updates about this case, but basically ADOR wanted the ETA director's cut removed, when according to the director it was agreed upon.

[empty halo]

ohh okay tysm

oh wow its still up on yt huh nice

[old cypress]

yeah obviously but saw people claiming it from korean news so wanted to check if news indeed dropped or they just misread/mistranslated the article

[empty halo]

realistically does this win for mhj strengthen mhdhh's case in any way?

[mild mist]

I'll bet that got downvoted into oblivion

[old cypress]

should be because the basis for mhdhh losing trust in hybe is them dismissing mhj without a valid reason

[empty halo]

i can smell the coping and seething on r/kpopuncensored

[empty halo]

ohh i see

[mild mist]

"why min Heejin being cleared of any wrongdoing actually makes her more guilty - source: trust me bro"

[old cypress]

source: i'm a law student expert

[subtle matrix]

Depends on whether judge sees MHJ's dismissal as a valid reason for the eventual termination

[empty halo]

i opened the kpop uncensored subreddit to see post titled "how can people support hybe?" that was discussing belift having kids born in 2014 be able to participate in auditions and it looks like it got taken down...? are these people genuinely on a payroll bc what

[mild mist]

Source: definitely not chatgpt

[hollow sorrel]

no because I literally had a fight with a friend of a friend who is pro-HYBE about this

they were coping so hard saying that the civil and criminal courts are different but what does that have to do with anything I mean obviously they are different but it won't really change anything?

[subtle matrix]

Social media algos have made it so people are living in completely different realities

[empty halo]

agreed but literally what do the mods gain by taking that post down, if anything itll drive engagement in their subreddit

man that subreddit is weird

[subtle matrix]

Oh that's because kpopuncensored is probably one of the subreddits that gets more reports lol

Threads get mass reported there constantly, people trying to control the narrative

[empty halo]

ohh right got it

[copper jetty]

I think it was on her contract that she shouldn't do any damage or something like that to other hybe subsidiaries.

[fierce cloak]

I'm so looking forward MHJ counter sue Hybe. Really hope she get her money and create her own company.

Ngl with all the quiet time she's been disappear im thinking she's working on NJZ return, and maybe on Krystal solo album

[storm warren]

https://x.com/rkdmf8810/status/1945079951377723810

Happy_Bnz (@rkdmf8810)

최유미님 좋아요 누르고가셨넹😊

X · Jul 15, 2025, 11:16 AM

[copper jetty]

I'm also happy for her. With how Hybe manipulated public perception against her and threw her reputation down the drain she should counter sue for defamation. Also, she should cash in on that put option (if that's still available.)

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/tina2nHR/status/1944982947376844877

tin #MAOMAO'S CHEERLEADER🐈‍⬛🖤 (@tina2nHR)

"ㅎㅎ are you having fun?"
"ㅋㅋㅋ"

X · Jul 15, 2025, 4:50 AM

kekw

[copper jetty]

Not just bsh 400b fraud. But Hybe's connections too is exploding

[mild mist]

Tell them that you can write fanfiction too

[copper jetty]

Wait why did Hybe mention Dir. Shin on the statement and team bunnies? What does that have to do with MHJ winning the case?

Yeah. What a day. It's a whiplash.

One look give em whiplash.

[fierce cloak]

somehow the cases being pushed back actually work in MHJ & NJZ favor. With the new government crack down the previous ones' corruption, weaken hybe and expose bsh.

[grizzled summit]

Bro omg the way hybe stans are so mad on yt over mhjs verdict, like lol yalls daddy bongo going to jail 😭

[copper jetty]

They for sure crashing out. I mean theyre crashing out on X, how much more in yt. Lmao I don't even want to go into tiktok to see how unhinged their takes are.

[fierce cloak]

Good, the more they talk about, the more relevant MHJ & NJZ are. The worst is being ignored, forgotten. Meanwhile they literally keep hype around NJZ going strong even if they are on hiatus.

[copper jetty]

Just remembered. It's July 15 and tonight will be 16th in korea... which means that we will know by tonight if bsh's ipo case will be forwarded to the prosecutors.

It's gonna be a crazy week for sure

[blazing sky]

I heard the good news how we feeling chat

[hoary frost]

ngl the news actually made my day

A glimmer hope feels nice especially with what's going on with the world.

[copper jetty]

I'm so happy for mhj but ngl, idk if this will help the girls in their main suit (i hope it does, but we will see). I don't trust the justice system in korea.

[fierce cloak]

it does, this literally the root of everything

[old cypress]

ultimately the main suit ruling depends on how the judge interprets concepts like trust

[copper jetty]

It is. And I know that's one of the main arguments of the girls. Thing is, will it be enough for the concept of "breach of trust."

[old cypress]

regardless it does help the girls

[copper jetty]

That's the main thing i worry... and i know that there was a precedent.. so I'm hopeful. But, with how we've taken L's before I'm still scared to expect them to win.

[fierce cloak]

With the new government cracking down corruption, i have a bit of hope that the judges wouldn't want to be involved into bsh's gang or something. The judge for main case also seems to be understanding and care about nuance, so I feel there's a much better chance to win.

[old cypress]

Who knows? The new president is known as a pragmatist so he might very well keep the status quo if it serves national interests

[fierce cloak]

the injuction literally skewed toward hybe as they has someone related to former first lady corruption, it was supposed to bias to hybe anyway
they also assume that mhj was guilty breach of trust, while now she's proven to be not guilty

[fierce cloak]

based on the main law sue judge comment about njz case, i find he really pay attention to nuance, if i not wrong he also ruled loona members to win their case too? So i think there is a really good chance

[old cypress]

it's the same judge? I didn't know

[fierce cloak]

yeah i hope i dont mix up here, but some loona members also lost their injuction at first, then they won the main thing

[old cypress]

they won the appeal but the cases are completely different anyway

[cinder narwhal]

is this a sign chat

[storm warren]

reunited w njz

[copper jetty]

Yow she's back to posting music as if nothing happened

[red thorn]

Here we go big dose of copium for bunnies

[fierce cloak]

yeah i dont really follow their case too strictly so i may be wrong in details. I just roughly remember i saw tokki on twitter mentioned the judge for njz is the same with loona. He also comment on njz as unique and must go through thoroughly, because most idols case due to conflict in payment and so on, while njz case related to mhj case

[craggy skiff]

In the moment we unite

[copper jetty]

-supernatural

[tall dew]

https://imgur.com/rC27xnt

[fierce cloak]

get ready for new masterpieces coming out lol

[copper jetty]

Are we finally seeing the light after a year

I just just hope njz comes back... and go on tour and release all the songs they did during hiatus.

Can you imagine if they win everything, the next day or within the day, they release full album.

Umm guys quick question tho... why is shin wooseok and team bunnies included in Hybe's statement? What does that have to do with MHJ winning her court case??

[old cypress]

hybe pr team sniffed a few rails

[bitter prism]

Using hybe?

[copper jetty]

Nah... I said NJZ... not NewJeans.

[copper jetty]

Yeah which is laughable. Just sniping people left and right even with the L.

[old cypress]

atp it feels like hybe is mostly speaking to its incel fanbase

[bitter prism]

Even if it's njz, what company would they be under to?

[copper jetty]

Or because they had the L, reminding all their other fanbase that there are other battles.

[copper jetty]

Idk, maybe independent but remember when they were posed to release things during complex? Like pit stop? But then they went on hiatus to respect the injunction? I was referring to that.

[cinder narwhal]

https://fixupx.com/kangtypooo/status/1945018408824676409

ᴋ⋆ || WFMHDHH｡･𐀔ﾟ (@kangtypooo)

#whoremembers

Quoting NJZONE (@Imissnjz)
︀
Do you guys really think that this impulsive woman with ADHD, who tells the truth even if her life is at stake, is pretending and lying 😭

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FixupX · Jul 15, 2025, 7:11 AM

[bitter prism]

Oh, yeahh, I see

[storm warren]

their own

[copper jetty]

I would love if they transfer to their own company after this.

[bitter prism]

That would be history. or someone did that?

[copper jetty]

Not until all these things is over at least.

I literally forgot that sws also filed a case. Also this is his response to Hybe's statement.

*x https://x.com/juantokki/status/1945094283805253983?t=NzZSXBhHVkbmyjwZTmp-XA&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki)

Statement:

Hello, this is Dolphiners.

Dolphiners is currently undergoing civil and criminal legal procedures related to the release of the “ETA Director’s Cut.”

The civil lawsuit is proceeding through proper legal channels, and we are awaiting the court’s judgment. As for the

X · Jul 15, 2025, 12:13 PM

[old cypress]

this man is the goat lol

[copper jetty]

I didn't know there was a criminal case too?? Like what???

[copper jetty]

Idk why but I see him as the male version of MHJ. They're both crazy, in a good way.

[subtle matrix]

I learned about it today lol I thought it had been dropped last year after all the lawsuits were filed

Too many cases to keep track of

[copper jetty]

Yeah too many things happened in the past year that it's already hard to keep track of. I kinda forgot about SWS vs Ador, I thought it was only a civil case.

[hoary frost]

Y'all my spell worked 🫨😭

[copper jetty]

You better work overtime. There's still other dates. Tonight will be BSH and FSS if they will indict him.

And on the 18th too

[hoary frost]

Gonna cast a much stronger spell this time around 🍀🤞🏻🐰

[waxen musk]

I've been conditioned to feel cautious even when things are looking brighter.

What exactly happens tomorrow if BSH is indicted?

How likely is it the injunction is cancelled during one of these next main hearings? I was reminded of a 1tokki post that I commented was complete copium: https://discordapp.com/channels/948917131989381173/1231839760759263232/1387621363912540170

I'm also reminded how a decision on the legality of MHJ's KakaoTalk messages being used as evidence will coincide with these upcoming hearings on the 18th.

[old cypress]

Only a korean lawyer would be able to tell whether the injunction can be lifted or not. As for 1tokki, while he brings a lot to the community with his reporting and translations, it's not the greatest idea to hold any value to his chatgpt essays

[old cypress]

being cautious/worried and being confident/positive both lead to the same outcome so i'd rather stay positive

[sage venture]

just wait and see once BSH actually gets prosecuted, everything will fall into place

[fluid ravine]

hi everyone, i'm a bunnie from brazil and i'd really like to ask you something

i don't have time to keep up with everything that's going on, but I'd really like to know if this decision in favor of MHJ can benefit NJZ in any way?

[still badge]

Guys what does this mean pls explain I don't understand court terminology but everyone is celebrating smth for NJZ in the comments so is this good pls help

[fluid ravine]

my question is very similar too

[still badge]

Ye

[bronze talon]

it means what it says there
she got ousted back then for allegedly wanting to take over hybe/ador alone
and i think that she apparently broke contractual stuff with the shareholder agreement, which turns out to be false. she can now counterattack and seek damages if she wants or other outcomes that are in favor. some even say it could get a reinstatement of her in ador

[still badge]

Oh okok wait so is that bad for NJZ

[bronze talon]

no, maybe not directly but it gives them arguments to counter their legal side bc one of many reasons why they terminated their contract is they want mhj back reinstated

[fluid ravine]

ok so

[hoary frost]

[fluid ravine]

if mhj is reinstated in ador, this could mean that newjeans, even if it loses the case, can continue in ador with mhj?

[old cypress]

One of the main reasons is mhj being fired unfairly

[bronze talon]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1944939387479060815 read this maybe to get some info on what she could do

1tokki (@juantokki)

The police conclusion that Min Hee-jin is NOT GUILTY of breach of duty directly undermines HYBE’s entire justification for:

1. Unilaterally terminating the Shareholders’ Agreement, and

2. Removing her as CEO of ADOR.

So what does this mean, exactly?

HYBE’s justification for

X · Jul 15, 2025, 1:57 AM

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/yo_lobster/status/1945137978369827029

[harsh dove]

@yo_lobster <t:1752592007:d>

Atty. Lee Hyungon FB Post [20250715]
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/14HdsKkqgDh/

Why did HYBE file a criminal accusation (고발) against Min Hee-jin, not a lawsuit (고소)?

Because Min Hee-jin had no way to steal HYBE’s management rights.
Then why couldn't ADOR sue Min Hee-jin?
Because Min Hee-jin herself was the CEO and executive at ADOR.

Can a CEO steal management rights from herself?
Still, people believed there must be something behind it, and since they disliked Min Hee-jin, they defended HYBE.

People even said, “Would Kim & Chang (HYBE’s law firm) really file an accusation without evidence?”
Well, this is the result. (She was cleared.)

But now that the non-prosecution decision has been made, HYBE is saying they will file an objection.
But here’s the thing: the accuser in a criminal accusation (고발) cannot file an objection.
Yet HYBE keeps lying.

If you look at the difference between a lawsuit (고소) and a criminal accusation (고발), the truth becomes obvious:
HYBE was never the victim to begin with.
And of course, HYBE knew this from the very start.

#HYBELIED

[still badge]

Wait omg did I have this whole thing wrong I thought mhj was going against NewJeans and was evil

[old cypress]

The case is ADOR vs NJZ, so if mhj is ceo of ador she'll just drop the lawsuit entirely

[bronze talon]

yea

[hoary frost]

mhm

[bronze talon]

why would the members speak good of her if she would be against them

[still badge]

Wait I had no idea I feel so stupid

[bronze talon]

she was never the ill person in this

[fluid ravine]

omg

[still badge]

Someone in the server was like is mhj liked and my stupid ass replied with smth like "if they're responsible for putting NJZ through this then no!" I feel so dumb I'm deleting that shi rn

[bronze talon]

dude that would bring so much backlash i feel like. like 90% of people dont even know 20% of the story and would just shit on njz if they go back
people would forget and praise them once they release more music but still
them saying no more going back to ador is a big thing

[fluid ravine]

what is your opinion about mhj?

[bronze talon]

i personally think mhj is aware of this and will seek money in damage if possible and go create an own label or go to a diff one

[old cypress]

Yeah i think she just wants to get her put option money and start a label with njz

[fluid ravine]

i really see people very divided about it, and I don't know what to believe

[bronze talon]

one of the big reasons why is bc idk if she can get all the OG staffs back once she even reinstates herself if possible

[heady gate]

this sub is very active in the past 11 hours since MHJ's news released.

[still badge]

So MHJ is fighting with her own label?

[bronze talon]

nope

[still badge]

Or I mean her own label is fighting with her I mean

[bronze talon]

she has no label atm
remember? shes ousted

[still badge]

Oh ok

[still badge]

Oh shoot yeah I didn't know what ousted meant but now I understand

[heady gate]

https://www.nme.com/news/music/ador-hybe-feud-timeline-story-3754759 This is the most comprehensive timeline from April 2024 to April 2025

[fluid ravine]

from what I understand, this is positive for njz because if mhj somehow manages to regain control of ador , the case against njz ends

[still badge]

Omgg

[fluid ravine]

and one of the reasons why njz started the contract termination was the unfair dismissal of mhj

[still badge]

Ohh okok ty

[fluid ravine]

i think that's it, i could be wrong

[still badge]

OHHH wait I feel sooo stupid rn I literally thought she was the face of the company and mistreating NJZ I'm so sorry

[bronze talon]

yep one of many but this one is a light reason, the other reasons have much more value/weight

[heady gate]

correct. That is why MHJ has a hearing on September 11 - MHJ's 4th hearing for the shareholders' agreement

[fluid ravine]

i see a lot of people talking bad about mhj, and i really think she was wrong in some of the things she said, but something that is very noticeable is that newjeans really cares about her

[still badge]

That's really good to know

[old cypress]

a lot of people decided to be misogynist towards mhj

[still badge]

Also I saw like Minji wear a MHJ t shirt was that her supporting her

[bronze talon]

idt she was wrong in most things, people just perceived it wrong bc she used some harsh language sometimes and put it in a way people can misinterpret it

[heady gate]

they are HYBE's stan. They believe every word from HYBE against MHJ

[still badge]

I'm very glad I got corrected today bc I completely had the wrong idea

I thought it was the classic scenario of oh evil ceo representing their company and battling with the artists but ofc that's not the case

Fr I'm sorry NJZ chat

[waxen musk]

I do wonder if HYBE ever thought MHJ would be found guilty or if they knew this would be the end result all along. Either way it has been extremely damaging for MHJ.

https://tenor.com/view/khod-catering-lechon-roast-pig-gif-12103848

How long does it take to roast a pig? 12 hours? I guess we'll find out soon.

[old cypress]

yeah they wanted to crush her and failed miserably

[fluid ravine]

if mhj really is that person who really cares about njz, I hope she can get control of the ador back

[rugged dagger]

anything eventful happen?

[waxen musk]

lol anything eventful...

Yes...

[still badge]

Yeah...

[rugged dagger]

tell me

[waxen musk]

MHJ was found not guilty of breach of trust

[still badge]

Why does this statement give off youtuber outro with music energy

[rugged dagger]

FUCK YEAH

we prayed for times like these

[fluid ravine]

what day is the next njz hearing?

[waxen musk]

Check pinned. 24th July.

[smoky mesa]

Hi I'd like to say reddit is a scary place to be a tokki, also if there any people here use reddit often, there's this person with a tomie pfp and she's like a huggggge njz anti. Anyone know?

[fluid ravine]

oh tysm

[heady gate]

MHJ is still busy on her cases. 2 of them on July 18.

[fluid ravine]

is this the last hearing of njz right?

[smoky mesa]

Soumu and belift right?

[old cypress]

no

[smoky mesa]

That's the main trial

[heady gate]

correct. Source Music and BeLift

[fluid ravine]

i saw some people saying it was the last one, but i didn’t know if it really was, thanks

[old cypress]

it could be but probably not the last one

[heady gate]

The judge will tell us. Don't believe anyone else.

[fluid ravine]

let’s wait until then

[copper jetty]

When again are we going to know if mhj kktalk chats are admissible in court? Was that done or not yet??

Or is that included with the soumu and belift case?

[lapis tendon]

Oh stay away from there lol anything positive gets you banned or downvoted

Same place where they blamed MHJ and the girls for when South Korea went under martial law last year apparently so 🤣🤣

[copper jetty]

Girl we've been ran out of reddit. Why do u think u see no tokkis outside of newjeans or NJZ thread there? It's run by Tag PR

Idk how true this is but I wouldn't be surprised if bsh ipo fraud goes under the rug because of this.

*x https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1945136103318577284?t=axwPrKrOy32_rrwRW2ZOcQ&s=19

Mino (@MinotaurKard)

The funds that sold the shares due to BSHs lies LP were also by the pension fund, the problem then becomes that both the funds and the pension fund has a responsibility for being scammed, and they need to act proactive and report on BSH - BH

https://t.co/V4ZWRWVqEc
74 mins in -

X · Jul 15, 2025, 2:59 PM

[short laurel]

But not at the cost of ador n newjeans. Her action even if affected belift. It was to protect ador n newjeans cuz belift stole her planning n copied it.

[hollow shore]

I'm still on reddit. I don't care about downvotes either. I noticed the post about this on r/kpop there were a few more people who were neutral or not complete hybe stans.

[copper jetty]

Yeah but we still don't how these defamation cases might affect the shareholder's agreement..

[short laurel]

Just cuz something is in the contract doesn't mean it's legal. As long as it's to protect ador n newjeans, belift being damaged is belift's fault.

[copper jetty]

We still don't know that though. That's still up to the judge to decide. A contract is still legal and binding but you're right that there is a conflict of interest in the situation since the main participant involved is Ador's main artist and another Hybe sublabel. We'll still see how this goes.

[copper jetty]

That pedo narrative is so sketchy. It's based off of a nude painting that was gifted to her and the subject wasn't even underaged (cmiiw). SMH. It's not as if she bought it.

It's definitely questionable but not illegal. Also, it's not her that's consuming things like "high school underage cam girls."

Also not all nudes point out to those types of contents.

There's nudes in the arts too like the Greek sculptures and paintings.

Well we're in Kpop fandoms where every little thing is dissected, even when it shouldn't.

[heady gate]

https://www.koreaherald.com/article/3450706 He is one of the example.

[smoky mesa]

I saw twt Tokkis talking about this, saying that the art had a deeper meaning than what it showed on the surface,

[clear hill]

So Hybe can accuse “breach of trust” against MHJ with kkt but when NJZ terminates their exclusive contract based on breach of trust it it’s “no factual evidence to support accusations” ....

Hybe can accuse MHJ of trying to take over Hybe and making private deals with other investors but then the ceo gets caught with stock manipulation and fraud...

Hybe can use public opinion as “valid arguments” against MHJ’s breach of trust against Hybe but NJZ’s evidence of Hybe media play gets denied in court as “emotionally ruled”....

I’m sensing a pattern here...

[clear hill]

I just wonder how it would play out if they were to go back to ador. would the concept MHJ had in store be scrapped and changed due to the illit plagiarism allegation? I wonder if the creative direction would take a change considering that a lot of the hints/comeback teasers we get are somewhat aligned w the belift creative direction of illit.

[old cypress]

I'm sure they'll scrap the plans they had since illit kind of took over the concept. If they did a retro videogames/magical girl concept, they'll just look like illit rather than newjeans. So they're not gonna do that.

In any case I don't think they're ever going back to ador even if by some miracle mhj somehow gets reinstated

[clear hill]

I really hope the NJ1 demo teaser doesn’t get scrapped tho:(

[grizzled mural]

MHJ being freed of all criminal charges was a definitely a win.

There’s definitely more angles for their lawyers to argue the loss of trust now.

I just wish I had more faith in how South Korean courts protected women.

[clear hill]

I’m confused a bit because of Hybe’s statement specifically:

“Additionally, we would like to inform you that all indiscriminate complaints and accusations filed by Min Hee Jin and her associates against HYBE and its affiliates’ executives and employees have also resulted in decisions of not being forwarded to the prosecution:”.

Doesn’t this correlate to the ongoing legal battle between mhj and belift? Why is Hybe releasing a conclusion?

[rugged dagger]

I'd really hate if we never got to see the stuff they had planned

[prisma nova]

Is there a chance we get the name newjeans back or is it gonna be njz now

[subtle matrix]

There's some mechanisms to get the name when all members leave a label but they will have to pay ador

[hoary frost]

we're good or we're cooked

[fleet nebula]

Delulu prediction: after the MHJ win, she keeps winning - retakes ADOR - breaks from HYBE - brings back NewJeans (instead of NJZ) and releases good new music and world tours

[cerulean lake]

with how SK is and how corrupt the higher ups are there, i can’t sense that coming any time soon unfortunately

[cerulean lake]

gonna blame hybe forever and how their ego couldn’t handle that lady 🫩

[onyx geyser]

wait whats going on right now im kind of out of the loop

oh nvm

[cerulean lake]

nah but fr. i literally would have gone into hiding already if all those hybe stan’s went after me after hybe unleashed false rumors to get my ass 🫩

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/catzkang/status/1945256495882625095

[harsh dove]

@catzkang <t:1752620264:d>

Today, the Securities and Futures Commission (SFC) will hold a regular meeting to address the agenda related to Chairman Bang Sihyuk.

BSH's side has informed the authorities that they will not attend the SFC meeting on this day.

https://n.news.naver.com/article/015/0005158419?sid=102

[heady gate]

BSH's legal team don't give a Fu to the SFC

[feral tapir]

man just wont give up

[rugged dagger]

is it something he has to attend?

is this a delay tactic or is it able to proceed without his presence?

[thorny knot]

At least put a spoiler tag to save our eyes

[heady gate]

5 days ago, BSH failed again to appear as a witness in the stock manipulation trial concerning SM Entertainment. He doesn't care.

[thorny knot]

he doesn't care about his employees why would he care to show up to this

[pulsar wasp]

yeeeeeeeo big W, righ!?

[pulsar wasp]

x* https://x.com/jasmeenalana/status/1945288750436593990?s=46&t=fNOSZJh6PZHLeSxBuZ7DWA

I need all my updates from ol’ pops fr fr !

𝒥𝓈. ♡ (@JasmeenAlana)

Not papa ending the Hybe rats sksk

X · Jul 16, 2025, 1:05 AM

TYPE SHIII

[lucid yarrow]

ill laugh if those brainrot stans say mhj behind bang trial bc she such powerful influential figure she even control the government

[cinder narwhal]

drowning in irony

https://x.com/christinadirkes/status/1944994443259781377

Christina Dirkes 💎 (@christinadirkes)

She is going to demand that 26 billion won and they aren’t gonna have it. Hybe has been having cashflow issues for the last year.

Imagine if she told them they can give her ownership of Ador instead.

X · Jul 15, 2025, 5:36 AM

[cosmic belfry]

based pops

[hushed violet]

Is this actually true? Im sorry i havent been picking up on news lately 😭

[frozen granite]

What even is the last comment ? 😭😭😭

[rugged dagger]

it's always a miracle to find people sharing positive comments on tiktok. cant let them get away

[clear hill]

The police dropped charges on her after the year long investigation but I’m kinda skeptical about the good news bc of hybe’s statement.. maybe it’s just Hybe creating panic and trying to decrease morale but apparently regarding the accusations min heejin filed against belift lab were also dropped. There’s supposed to be a court hearing on the 18th regarding this so I’m kinda confused on its status rn

[clear hill]

The fandom is alive and well, just most of it being into hiding bc fandom wars are so tense during this ongoing battle >.< but even during the dark times bunnies persist!!

[onyx geyser]

im ngl
most of my interractions with bunnies were on twitter which was a horrible first impression cause a lot of you guys are really chill on literally any other platform

[hushed violet]

What was hybes statement?

[clear hill]

Twitter kinda explains it 😭I got doxxed by armies once LMAO

[clear hill]

Basically said that they’re gonna object because they have more evidence after the newjeans press conference and stuff, as well as how the charges mhj filed against Hybe execs and belift lab have been dropped

[eternal ibex]

doxxed is INSANE. I hope youre fine now

[mild mist]

is bang sihyuk going to jail yet

[hollow sorrel]

Is the decision made today???

[waxen musk]

The day isn’t over yet, but I don’t know what to expect.

[clear hill]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSBsEfCU7/ does anyone know if there’s validity to this?

[clear hill]

I’m okay now!😭I deleted my twitter and haven’t gone back since LOL

[hushed violet]

Sigh… just hoping for this hybe downfall soon

[copper jetty]

So guys what happened theres no result yet with bsh ipo?

Are they gonna indict or what?

Idk the fact that they're taking their time to announce this is sus and I think nothings gonna come out of this atp.

[mild mist]

Well the legal system does like protecting the rich and powerful
But I'd expect a press release

[upbeat stream]

https://n.news.naver.com/article/422/0000760410?sid=102

as expected, he has been referred to prosecution

[old cypress]

good

[short laurel]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1945410074622714199

🫧 (@catzkang)

The Financial Services Commission’s Securities and Futures Commission (SFC) has filed a criminal complaint with prosecutors against Bang Sihyuk on charges of engaging in fraudulent and unfair trading.

https://t.co/yRPh0fIhSx

X · Jul 16, 2025, 9:08 AM

so is he banned for leaving the country now?

[old cypress]

he's not in the country

[short laurel]

what wasn't his US trip next week ?

[old cypress]

i thought he already ran off

[sage venture]

he was supposed to be in korea today, giving some speech

[short laurel]

allkpop 4hours ago posted that he cancelled it

[old cypress]

yeah his minion is replacing him

[sage venture]

yep and no way he’s running off and leaving all his shares behind, right?

[old cypress]

shares are not something you bring with you as you travel

but he's not yet banned from leaving the country anyway

[sage venture]

btw this final review from FSS
https://x.com/cchoi07/status/1945413986973069798 (in Korean)

cchoi (@cchoi07)

7월 16일 증선위 의결 관련 보도자료

X · Jul 16, 2025, 9:23 AM

[short laurel]

boo.

[short laurel]

someone translate

[hoary frost]

[old cypress]

he can leave the country to avoid showing up in court or whatever instance, but he's not gonna leave to escape arrest

the former is not a crime the latter is

[short laurel]

need him banned so he is forced to show up in kakao court too. i hope he's done some dirty work in kakao case.

[old cypress]

he'll just find another pretext to not show up probably

[sage venture]

he’ll either be banned from leaving the country or have his passport cancelled soon
so after 1 year and 3 months of drama, we’ll finally hear him speak

[old cypress]

Idk if he's considered a flight risk because all his assets are in korea

[short laurel]

nope. he has assts in USA. his massive mansion.

[old cypress]

the mansion belongs to hybe iirc

[sage venture]

https://www.fsc.go.kr/no010101/84940?srchCtgry=&curPage=&srchKey=&srchText=&srchBeginDt=&srchEndDt=
(this will be easier to translate)

[short laurel]

ooh.

[sage venture]

beautiful

[short laurel]

need to find what is Article 178

[short laurel]

what were news calling bsh months ago? BSH looks like "idol" lol

[hollow sorrel]

I remember pictures of him next to TXT and the headlines said his visual is better... so unserious

[sage venture]

https://www.law.go.kr/법령/자본시장과 금융투자업에 관한 법률/제178조
it’s a very loosely written law so if they’re determined to punish you, there’s no way to avoid it

[short laurel]

if that's the case, he's gone haha

[mild mist]

How convenient

[sage venture]

hope so but at the same time, they can choose to be lenient So we need to see how much the fine will be Then we’ll know exactly how much BSH is fucked

[short laurel]

highly likely that organization asked to replace him. hybe ceo is givign speach instead.

[old cypress]

the trial may take a while to conclude

[short laurel]

yea probably years.

[short laurel]

if they be lenient, will be bad look on new government, they need to atleast go hard on 1st one be4 goign super lenient and corrupt on others.

[old cypress]

I don't think it'll take years, it seems pretty straightforward

[sage venture]

they’ll usually freeze some assets to cover potential fines as a precaution before the trial proceeds So we'll see how serious they are

[old cypress]

if the national pension story gets traction it's gonna be real bad for bsh because he's essentially defrauding the korean people

[short laurel]

oog i forgot about that

[sage venture]

if that gains momentum it could be the end of HYBE

[old cypress]

scooter braun new hybe chairman lol

[orchid field]

fuck bang si hyuk we chanted in unison

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1945426893123248415

🫧 (@catzkang)

HYBE : "It’s unfortunate that the largest shareholder (BSH) explained to the Financial Supervisory Service that he didn’t try to make personal profit from the company’s stock listing, but that explanation wasn’t accepted.”

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

https://t.co/7jTQazA29l

X · Jul 16, 2025, 10:14 AM

[old cypress]

Lmao

[cinder narwhal]

😭

[sage venture]

haha he directly got 400 billion won into his own account during the lock up period

[subtle matrix]

Technically correct, he didn't "try to", he actually did it

Can't be charged with attempted murder when the murder is successful

[rain spade]

Hisblawyer ask him to say that

[red thorn]

Mhj posted another playlist in her story

[sage venture]

wow 9 people have been handed over to the prosecution It looks like organized crime https://news.nate.com/view/20250716n35110

[old cypress]

We need their names

[orchid field]

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-ripbozo-pitalonzo-alex-lafreniere-alex-iafreniere-gif-18890780

[cinder narwhal]

can the prosecution say nah no thanks, no action needed?

[short laurel]

Whose side are u on 😭

[orchid field]

yeah

apparently what we really want is for him to be charged

[cinder narwhal]

reality

so now it's up to the prosecution to investigate and charge him then it goes to court where a judge will hear and pass judgement?
so at least two more hurdles?

[short laurel]

Tbh, every giant company has done illegal stuff, it's just they get away with things thx to corruption. But if the government wants to go against them hard, chances of survival become slim.
I doubt a company that has grown this big will be 100% clean. Since they are going this hard against him, i m sure they have something big against him.

[subtle matrix]

Yeah. But if it goes to court it's almost guaranteed he'll be convicted

[sage venture]

it’s possible but highly unlikely Like I said, what really matters is how much money they’ll try to take away and how many years of sentence they'll ask for

[subtle matrix]

So only 1 major hurdle really

[cinder narwhal]

ok

[short laurel]

Unless national pension story grts momentum like u guys said above

[cinder narwhal]

btw does mhj have any active criminal charges against her rn? or are they all civil? sorry about the terms if I'm misusing them

[old cypress]

The police and prosecution are both working on the same case for a year so it's likely he'll be convicted

Remember when they fought over search warrants

[short laurel]

Would employee B case count as criminal?

[subtle matrix]

No just civil suits. The criminal investigation was concluded without prosecution

[subtle matrix]

No it's a civil suit afaik

[sage venture]

that’s a nothing burger

[short laurel]

I m confused on why it was even criminal investigations. I thought from the start it was civil issue.

[subtle matrix]

I only learned yesterday that there was a criminal investigation still happening

[subtle matrix]

I knew hybe had made a criminal complaint and MHJ had been interviewed/questioned by the police, but with the civil case going to court I thought the criminal investigation had been dropped

[honest sky]

Is bsh on ozempic

[fierce cloak]

ador isnt that important, she can establish new company just fine, what's important is Newjeans IPs and all creative assets, which obviously it's what njz and mhj gonna fight for after all of these

[copper jetty]

How'd he explain when he didn't even go?

[short laurel]

yea, when he returned from USA months ago. news were calling him he looks like member from TXT, he looks like idol and stuff. everyone knows he got slim from ozempic.

[heady gate]

BSH should become Ozempic brand ambassador in South Korea. 😅

[honest sky]

Member from where 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[copper jetty]

I'm surprised it was 9. Previously reported it was only 4 + bang pd

[copper jetty]

Don't endorse ozempic unless people are diabetic.

[short laurel]

9 combining 3 other companies.

[heady gate]

Let's see who is going to be the judge of BSH case. Judge's decision can affect the result of the case.

[copper jetty]

Yeah but I thought those pefs were established by the same people.

Didn't know they were different.

[short laurel]

it's not in court yet.

[copper jetty]

Is the prosecution still gonna investigate or is prosecution automatically gonna file a case?

[old cypress]

who knows

i know they've been working on the case for a while so maybe they were waiting for the FSS to give the go

[copper jetty]

I'm confused before in why police and prosecution was fighting to call dibs on the case. So idk what will happen after FSS forwards this.

[heady gate]

If my memory serves me correctly, BSH has a business trip on next week. His case needs to move forward quickly.

[sage venture]

they have to do their own investigation but there’s already over six months worth of data from the FSS and police so it’s not starting from scratch

[old cypress]

maybe they needed the FSS go before moving forward

[copper jetty]

True. He might just stay in the US with his mansion. Although that would be a crime.

[old cypress]

it's better if he runs away to the US, it makes his case worse

[copper jetty]

Lmao I was actually thinking, what if BSH transfers to Hybe America and 🛴 manage Hybe while all this is ongoing . I think I said this last week.

[heady gate]

He isn't the CEO and doesn't manage HYBE

[copper jetty]

Oh wait kind forgot that he's not the CEO anymore. Wait but he's affiliated with bighit still right?

[heady gate]

He is a music producer.

[heady gate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang_Si-hyuk

He has a long list of production discography

[waxen musk]

He puts his name on everything put out by Hybe artists, basically (not quite).

With one major exception.

Glad to see things actually moving in the right direction for once.

[copper jetty]

I don't know any of the songs he produced. Maybe I've heard of it, I just don't know.

[heady gate]

click the link above, u will see a long list

[sage venture]

but he’s the chairman and every board member was handpicked by him
btw an interesting point is that there was a recent amendment to the Commercial Act So basically the current board members have to choose - will they protect BSH risking breach of trust charges or cut him loose
It'll be fun

[copper jetty]

What amendment did they do that they have to choose? Do you mean Hybe Board?