NJZ Updates and Discussion

[compact creek]

im not sure who that is, are they also like a kpop ytber/person?

yea like....he gives GENERAL overview of the situation but more often than not in paints them in a bad light without all the facts i dont even bother going in to comment section anymore cause theres no point...

yeah, honestly its not as if thats the worse thing in the world i really wonder why people when this info came out made it seem like such a big deal???

[subtle matrix]

I mean read the messages. It completely flipped the narrative which was still somewhat sympathetic to MHJ at that point

Like I said yesterday the fact that she was talking to a shaman wasn't what made it juicy

[compact creek]

[acoustic verge]

Yes, I've personally experienced this situation in my work life. Interviewed for Company B. Liked the people. Got the job. Then Company C came in and bought us out 1 month later. Everything changed. I tried it for a year but wasn't happy with Company C.

Saying that, I think one weak aspect of NJ case/argument is that they may have walked away too soon. The Judge is going to want to see that both sides put in effort. Because contracts are serious and hard to break. So I think it'll be up to NJ to show that. I think the only they have is trying to get MHJ reinstated as the CEO, which is good evidence, but will it be enough?

[short laurel]

Difference is u were employed right ? n njz here are contract workers. But yea they walked away too soon. It was pointed after injunction result.

[acoustic verge]

Sigh. I hate MHJ lol. The source of all this. Her ego....smh

[short laurel]

[frozen bronze]

i just ignore people like that, its fine to make your own judgement but straight up hating any 1 person in this is delusional. we dont even know the half of it

especially when the person youre hating on is the person the group you support trusts the most

it seems to stem more from a "im mad i no longer get new njz content" angle

mad that they spoke out instead of being mad theres something they need to speak out about

[runic granite]

Can someone explain why mhj changed her profile picture from haerin to a cat? its so creepy to me why she used haerin as a pfp

[frozen bronze]

dude what is wrong with you

[cinder narwhal]

as creepy as everyone else here who uses the members as their pfp? lol

[red thorn]

Lol i just woke up and checked the internet
I think I'm done

[runic granite]

She stans haerin?

Isnt she their mentor tho thats weird

[frozen bronze]

this user is making me mad

[cinder narwhal]

it's a meme

[runic granite]

it is? whats the original

[cinder narwhal]

can't even search haerin on x without the family stuff popping up 😭

search it yourself

[subtle matrix]

Hating a person you've never met when you're so far removed from the situation is a bit childish ngl

[acoustic verge]

Sorry but it was her ego. Not sure what you posted is supposed to prove. I'm referring to her leaving a month after she was removed as CEO and left on as producer. And her lawsuit against the communications officer just seemed petty. Her allegations of illit "copying" NewJeans and Hybe giving them more attention was childish and I'll supported. I actually didn't mind her attempt at gaining control of Ador, although it was a pretty dumb plan to do so.

So yeah. Stand by my statement 🤷🏾. *Grow up"... ha! Sure.

@hoary frost uhhh huh

[vital orbit]

*x https://x.com/mojunebug/status/1909376760732401783?t=4vGBfdlxTOzPx5yJ2SE0lA&s=19

[harsh dove]

@mojunebug <t:1744065868:d>

[vital orbit]

correct me if im wrong but i remember mhj had filed a lawsuit against belift and the judge acknowledged that her concern was valid

[vital orbit]

@short laurel am i right or wrong on this matter i think i remember reading it here

[vital orbit]

werent ppl trying to post pics of haerin to clean up the haerin rumours

[vital orbit]

same with the trying to gain control of ador, that was proven false as hybe had no evidence iirc? they were just hybe shareholders in general, this one im sure of bc it was in an article

also iirc in mhjs conference or SOMEWHERE she stated that BSH was unhappy with her success

[frozen bronze]

yeah they do not know whats going on, as do most people that are that firm in their belief

[vital orbit]

he hated that NewJeans was successful

[acoustic verge]

The court found she discussed the plans but it was not put into action

Hybe argued breach of trust but of course that didn't hold up because her contract is with Ador. Not hybe

[acoustic verge]

Got a whole GPT dedicated to the cases and events, but go on about "not knowing what's going on".

[frozen bronze]

oh well in that case!

[gleaming scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wet-blow-dry-gif-1784120349342730252

[knotty sparrow]

will njz members attend the court tomorrow?

[acoustic verge]

Be: lift filed a defamation case against her. Is that the one you're referring to?

[vital orbit]

im not suree, it was something i read on here 😭

[vital orbit]

i unfortunately cant find the article i was referring to so i cant really add anything to this discussio

[vital orbit]

it was sth someone posted on twt i js cant find the tweet

[acoustic verge]

I haven't heard the judge saying anything like that, but I can check later. The first hearing was January which was preliminary. and next in May.

[cinder narwhal]

https://fixupx.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1909378767853961572

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM)

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FixupX · Apr 7, 2025, 10:52 PM

full transcript in the quote

[acoustic verge]

yeah i cant find it. would be a weird statement for the judge to make prior to their main arguments/evidence being presented

[old cypress]

some people are just brainwashed and not willing to admit that they got bamboozled by fake news and rumors. Give them time I guess

If they're interested in getting to the truth, they'll get there eventually

[copper current]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1909390742331834633

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

it took sometime for me to complete this, and happily without any AI at all. here's the audio transcript from jon caramanica, a music critic for the NY times and host of Popcast for their latest podcast episode featuring NJZ.

X · Apr 7, 2025, 11:40 PM

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/catzkang/status/1909393418713022566

[narrow seal]

250407 반희수🫧 (@​catzkang) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/catzkang/status/1909393418713022566
That company keep throwing shade like it’s a competition. They can’t compete, so they shade. MHDHH left the company. Their impact? Loud enough to echo through the company’s hallway.

[waxen musk]

I keep seeing talk about BELIFT again without having actually seen what new thing people are talking about.

[old cypress]

illit about to receive a lot of hate comments for no reason again

[old cypress]

https://x.com/luenacore/status/1903039127941156914/photo/1

luna ୨ৎ (@luenacore) on X

5 out of 9 lawyers on ADOR's legal team are former judges/hold senior legal positions. Given this, coupled with a court judgment that seems inconsistent with the relevant evidence presented, it is not surprising that preferential treatment may have occurred.

The court's

X · Mar 21, 2025, 11:00 AM

dunno if true (probably easy to check though) but that seems concerning

[potent lichen]

Judges will have more knowledge and expertise so it is concerning

[old cypress]

Though Sejong is also a top lawyer firm so it would be interesting to see if sejong's team also has former judges

[potent lichen]

My family hired a lawyer because he used to be a judge and we won our case because he knew the system so well

[old cypress]

kim & chang being the #1 law firm in korea, there's an incentive to keep them happy so you can get a golden paycheck when you retire from being a judge. Hopefully the main lawsuit's judge is not a sellout

[stuck roost]

how does sejong compare to kim & chang

[old cypress]

well this woman is a former judge as well

[old cypress]

Korea has what they call the "Big Six law firms" and both firms are in that category

[compact creek]

tru i feel bad for them

[steep sun]

[hot girder]

they dont deserve the hate. it's bighit that fucking sucks

if they're being this publicly shady, imagine the shit they're doing where there's no public eye lol

[acoustic verge]

Kim & Chang is #1. They represent Hybe, SM, JYP.

​Shin & Kim is big as well, as someone said

[copper current]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1909223173545243051

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

Article

April 7 2025

NewJeans’ Parents Officially Deny Rumors of Division… KBS Viewer Petition Emerges: “Stop Malicious Reporting”

As the parents of NewJeans members have officially denied rumors of internal division, a KBS viewer has posted a petition demanding the+

Link👇

X · Apr 7, 2025, 12:34 PM

[red thorn]

2nd petition to KBS regarding this feud
1st was petition for the reason of the deletion NewJeans yt live article

[split bramble]

waste of time these petitions, there's a reason girls dont give domestic media anything now, let them do their mediaplay and pay no minds

the truth will be reported elsewhere

[pulsar wasp]

*x https://x.com/ygleakerinfo/status/1908750319917424749?s=46&t=fNOSZJh6PZHLeSxBuZ7DWA

is this leak legit? or another Ai creation?

[harsh dove]

@ygleakerinfo <t:1743916513:d>

[steel depot]

it's a bit glitchy

i don't really know

[hoary frost]

Can someone tell me what danworld is and connection to hybe..?

is this a conspiracy theory or legit...?

[cinder narwhal]

it's literally pit stop

[hoary frost]

just listened to it 🤣 yes this is pitstop

[red thorn]

Compelling conspiracy theory

[steel depot]

anything re kbs banning njz? tell me it's a fake news

[short laurel]

Hybe leaking n targeting misinformation in public cuz mhj made a valid internal report.
Ppl: "all this happened cuz of mhj ego"
How dumb.

Mhj does have huge ego but lets be clear here, all this happened not cuz of her but cuz of hybe's petty attitude.

[steel depot]

I just hope whatever evidence our girls have that hasn't been revealed will all be out on June 5th

[heady gate]

2 months to go

[vale grove]

I thought the leaker was a random teen 😭 are they real or

Seems like ai bc of the glitching but can’t be sure

[frozen granite]

Am I the only one who is starting to not care about all of this? Idk if this is a temporary episode or a lapse, but my mind is starting to expect that they won’t be back until years later until they are fully free, which I’ll support 100%, but I don’t see them coming back soon & I feel as my mind is slowly disconnecting itself from this legal battle. I wonder if the members feel like this too since they are the ones mostly affected

[cinder narwhal]

that's actually the right thing to feel imo. do and think of other stuff but welcome them when they're back

[frozen granite]

There’s days where I feel like they were only supposed to be in the industry for a little bit of time just like how they referenced in ‘ditto’ idk it’s kind of sad

[cinder narwhal]

idk if you're the person who keeps tabs on their ig followers but if you stopped good for you

[frozen granite]

Yeah it was me lol I stopped as soon as they announced they were going to go on hiatus I felt like this whole thing was taking over me. I hope they come back soon though as they were my ult

[cinder narwhal]

nice nice take care of yourself, i hope everyone else in here do the same

[hoary frost]

it is just ai altered pitstop

[hoary frost]

they probably buy leaks

[compact creek]

is there any proof thay tay tokki lead bts and illit hate ?? i keep seeing it

[vale grove]

I mean I’m pretty sure it was confirmed in the bp leak circles that the leaks weren’t new among leak collectors so it makes sense

[vale grove]

I feel a little helpless about it so yeah. I’m just so tired of this emotional roller coaster. It feels like going through relationship issues where the same issue keeps getting brought up but nothing changes so you stop feeling all together about it

[short laurel]

only lia who does it. i've not seen any other tokki doing that

[compact creek]

wait who is lia??? oh so taytokki did spread hate?

[stiff prairie]

whadup guys? anything new?

[upbeat stream]

Do you mean taly? She has never attacked illit or ssera. She did criticize Suga for drunk driving, which I would say was perfectly justified

[short laurel]

idk taytokki. only know lia who spread hate. every other big twt tokki i've seen strickly blame the company and stop others from hating idols.

[compact creek]

yea sorryi forgot her name, i see thank you

[compact creek]

thank you, and thats what i figured...ik people say that tokkis act a certain way but its rlly easy to see that they arent real fans? that or they dont understand the situation at hand

like they can say whatever they want about "bad vocals" or whatever but really it just shifts away from whose really at fault hybe. i could honestly never hate on illit or ssera i have noreason to

[short laurel]

there are alot of smaller tokkies account who probably do attack other idols cuz other idols fandom being attacking njz. but that's just usual kpop fanwar u'll in every groups with many small and big accounts being token stans who change their accounts name and pfp to start fanwar. for example: aespajeans(or jinjin)

[compact creek]

chronically online people who have nothing of value to add when it comes totalking abot kpop in general.

they just get off of talking shit about people who are famous

[subtle matrix]

It's pretty common for big law firms to hire former judges so it's very likely they do

[heady gate]

Same as Ronaldo's fans vs. Messi's fans. Both players train and play constantly, while their fans mostly sit at home and trash talk.

[hollow sorrel]

analyzed this statement with chatgpt ngl it looks promising

[subtle matrix]

That is so funny

[chilly sun]

isn’t that a korean proverb i don’t think it was shade like people are saying

[vocal sable]

maybe it was tbh idk i just sent it to see ur guys opinions 😭😭

[subtle matrix]

Even if it's shade I'm gonna let it stand because it's funny lol

[midnight timber]

you guys are so chill while twt bunnies are starting ww3 😭

[upbeat stream]

https://x.com/RunforNJZ/status/1909542090054287527?t=MHz_gp2ThmtQheuBbM94jw&s=19

RunNieZ (@RunforNJZ) on X

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X · Apr 8, 2025, 9:41 AM

Interesting

Private hearing tomorrow apparently

[craggy skiff]

It wont change anything

[steel depot]

what is a private hearing and what is it about

[mild mist]

That's just twitter
It's how it operates

[steel depot]

is it for injunction objection or contract validation

[short laurel]

Objection

[craggy skiff]

I just dead inside
fb recommend starting give me another kpop group content instead of newjeans/njz
Life without newjeans...
https://www.tiktok.com/@swanpan63/video/7489789421982616854

[steel depot]

oh right... i forgot

I'm too focused on the main lawsuit

[upbeat stream]

Don't be, it's the high court appeal that matters most

[steel depot]

is it the same judge?

[midnight timber]

yea

[steel depot]

[cinder narwhal]

isn't the appeal only for the injunction? if they lose the main lawsuit then injunction is moot no?

[upbeat stream]

This objection is just procedural bs before they can appeal

[upbeat stream]

Yeah but main lawsuit has a history of following injunction decision. If high court suspends their contract, district court likely won't rule against that

[cinder narwhal]

history and precedents..

[cinder narwhal]

https://fixupx.com/bborbnz/status/1909532340646560007

bbor (@bborbnz)

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FixupX · Apr 8, 2025, 9:02 AM

[old cypress]

The main lawsuit won't reach a decision before the appeal. Main lawsuit will likely take a year or two to wrap up

[subtle matrix]

Hopefully not 2 whole years

[hoary frost]

well its quite audacious if it was on purpose

[subtle matrix]

Well with appeals and what not it's possible, but I hope there's a ruling before the end of the year

[hoary frost]

they want them back, say they would take care of them and are referring to them as "enemy"...?

probably on purpose.....doubt they wouldnt know

[subtle matrix]

Well Belift is a third party here

[hoary frost]

still part of hybe umbrella

[subtle matrix]

But still a third party

[split bramble]

its 3rd party or same thing depending on differing situations

snap election on june 3rd, feels weird to say this but njz's legal hurdles becomes easier or harder depending on who wins

[rain spade]

[short laurel]

with how hybe made their groups make post after a drama ||when garam was out to make it look like girls didn't like her to fandom||. and manager showing their groups hate comment randomly||that illit video where they were streaming||, it does feel on purpose to get attention to spread word. it's almost their style.

i wish i could call all that a stretch.

[hoary frost]

Yeah i was thinking of the lsf vid too

I dont know...maybe lsf vid was a stretch...but this seems way too targeted

[short laurel]

regardless of what the intention was. the comments on it was like that and they did nothign to correct it.

[hoary frost]

Yeah i just saw. I think this is what they wanted.

I mean they are being insanely hypocritical when i am looking at the comment section...but anyways social media comments are nothing to pop vessels about...no reason to prove anything to such people

[short laurel]

i mean they are targeting comments from people. that's their intention to spread the word like that. n ppl are playing right into it.

[hoary frost]

They are expert in mediaplay

If we look further into hybe we can see

[subtle matrix]

What video was this?

[storm warren]

somebody i used to know tiktok video (i assume)

[hoary frost]

Basically there was this video, shortly after garam departure of lsf
with the song "somebody that i used to know"
now you could argue this was on purpos or not, but basically most people were celebrating and being like "ohhh wow they called her out!!"

That's the reaction i remember to that video

[storm warren]

what was there to call her out for? what a joke lol

[subtle matrix]

Posting that the day after they announced Garam was leaving is a huge yikes at the very least lol

[hoary frost]

She was so young and faced that hate train...heard that she is doing well in uni now though

[hoary frost]

Yeah I agree....its just a weird pattern

[storm warren]

kpop fans are into performative empowerment a bit too much. feasting on young girl's downfall is beyond disgusting. "ouu shade"? not funny at all

[short laurel]

garam still get hate on internet even though she's still a minor in korea. and was proven innocent.

[hoary frost]

Ppl refused to look into full case and just look into the fact she got displinary action

[storm warren]

there was no reason for garam to be shaded or even be called out by lsf. she did nothing wrong to them.

[short laurel]

then hybe's internal report on her showed hyeb did it on purpose.

[hoary frost]

Wait what?

[short laurel]

thegreatgaram has post on it but will take long time to find.

[hoary frost]

I didn't know this...can you share more

I find it kinda weird on purpose tho...I mean she was quite talented and pretty...and fit concept well

[short laurel]

oo she posted that video not long ago

[hoary frost]

Can u send?

[short laurel]

https://fixupx.com/garpu67359211/status/1909514702952051006 wow

IamGarpuuuZ : ✨dou sha bao✨ jeanzforfree ✨NJZ (@garpu67359211)

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FixupX · Apr 8, 2025, 7:52 AM

i m looking. https://x.com/thegreatgaram help me

XOXO 🤍 GG (@thegreatgaram) on X

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X

[hoary frost]

oh ok let me see

is it their pinned?

[short laurel]

ooh wow i missed that. yea that's it xD

[hoary frost]

Lol that was easy xd

[old cypress]

one of the best resources on twt

[hoary frost]

I just find it hard with these sort of internal reports and repeated occurence such things are not coincidence...if ppl can micromanage hanni's expressions and find fault in it then I don't see how its a reach to see that part..and why they are using their group as a target for their little jokes...? are they going that far for attention marketing

i dont think its a big deal though just weird..?

[old cypress]

Usually managing idols requires a high level of attention to detail so belift might indeed be shading newjeans here. But that's the thing with plausible deniability, you'll be laughed at if you take it too seriously

[short laurel]

it's repeated incidents that's why i don't think it's reach. it itself isn't much but this is repeated micro bullying that happens in hybe.

[old cypress]

well there's no more bullying since njz is out of hybe now

[short laurel]

it's still online micro bullying.

[old cypress]

ehhh idk it really could be just a coincidence even though there's a precedent (kalguksu)

even if belift meant to shade njz, nothing really changes. It's well known that they hate njz and only hybecels will gloat on it. It's really a lot of ink for nothing

it's like the illit creative director posting a middle finger. It's whatever

[old cypress]

Daniel Arsham is really famous he's not some random

[short laurel]

#1231839760759263232 message that's their end goal pretty much

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1744113134:f>

from namnyann

i mean they are targeting comments from people. that's their intention to spread the word like that. n ppl are playing right into it.
[Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[short laurel]

yea ik. not 1st time hybe or kpop tried to copy famous artists.

[old cypress]

They're making their fanbase happy I guess, other than them nobody will notice unless it goes viral but then people will know that belift is petty enough to shade other idols and it'll just give strength to the kalguksu situation

[short laurel]

tokkies have noticed and are screaming about it. and tokkies will watch whatever content they put out just to hate. but it sitll gives belift the numbers. it's all about numbers after all

[old cypress]

It can't be helped. Even if 1% of tokkis are like that, that's still thousands of people.

[subtle matrix]

What is the kalguksu situation?

[pulsar meteor]

Schizophrenia

[subtle matrix]

[frozen bronze]

prime internet stupidity

[empty halo]

its a common and very popular korean noodle dish, minji wasnt aware what it was and that caused a 'controversy' for which she had to apologize

[frozen bronze]

not long after that illit had a video on youtube where one of them was saying kalguksu a lot and that got tokkis to get extra mad

[subtle matrix]

That is hilarious ngl

[pulsar meteor]

(While playing this or that between two food choices)

[subtle matrix]

Illit member: "I like kalguksu"
Tokkis: "What did that b*tch just say"

[frozen bronze]

minji had to make a statement eventually
i think she said she did know what it was but she just didnt like it or something idk

[subtle matrix]

actually laughing out loud in the office rn

[empty halo]

i think it was more about a subtitle that the video had which was inserted in by the editors at belift

when the illit members mentioned kalguksu

[subtle matrix]

Oh and apparently MHJ liked the video by accident? I was trying to look it up and there's a lot of headlines about it

[empty halo]

oh yeah around the time that the controversy happened and the illit video was released where they were talking about kalguksu, a subtitle said "kalguksu is whats trending now" which to some seems like a reference to the minji cOnTrOvErSy blowing up

[frozen bronze]

didnt know about that

[empty halo]

if it was a video released by any other label who cares but based on how bitter belift is towards njz i wouldnt put it past them to mock minji

[subtle matrix]

Some of the things around this whole case are deeply unserious

[short laurel]

after that at blind hybe employees were making fun of minji over kalguksu. even though minji said nothing on illit video.

[frozen bronze]

classic fans being fans

[empty halo]

it doesnt matter much anymore i guess since theyre out of hybe, i guess its just embarrassing that a team of adults working at belift enjoy mocking nwjns

[short laurel]

but my issue is how did minji not knowing kalguksu even become a controversy. from few koreans i know it was nothing burger but on internet it was so much drama to make minji come out and explain.

[empty halo]

fr is life really SO DRY that u have to make a controversy out of noodles 😭

crazy things going on over in south korea

[short laurel]

minji was sad after that too.

[hoary frost]

See yes this is issue with plausible deniability. And Illit fan even put caption on post like "oh lol look" and laugh with fandom but if a tokki notices they are crazy...but yes tokki need to keep emotions in check because if it was on purpose it was meant to be ragebait

[empty halo]

and mind you they have many issues and real scandals to worry about and discuss actually shit is NOT DRY they just like taking the most irrelevant things ever and blowing it up to pile on girls and women who are famous

[hoary frost]

If that's what gets them through the day I guess...

[hoary frost]

Yeah they love to hate on girls and women
I actually noticed something about mhj hate
They love to say "Women can do bad things too. Imagine if it's a man" And compare her to people who have done genuine crimes and worse things ...for example all other kpop CEOs are Scott free

Now there is genuine criticism. But if you notice a pattern in how they say it and the language

[old cypress]

in hindsight hybe probably pushed the mediaplay towards this

[short laurel]

recent incident related to ksh. ||IU is being attacked cuz the Kim Sae-ron and 2 artists in past to unalive themselves were recommended to psychiatrists hospital by IU. instead of worrying about the creep ksh, internet is attacking IU. ||

[empty halo]

I saw a tweet comparing kim soohyun to hanni.........................................

[empty halo]

totally she might be extremely annoying but comparing her to people who groomed childrenis insane

[hoary frost]

They are also deflecting blame from themselves. All of these artists got intense hate from public ...and they seek to blame people like IU again now...what a stupid cycle

[empty halo]

I saw 😭😭😭 korean forums are braindead

[short laurel]

fortunately irl koreans i heard from don't believe in this. internet drama =/= irl

[hoary frost]

I mean the lesson here is to not jump on hate trains...not to start new ones

[old cypress]

internet is a big place even in korea

[empty halo]

i dont think they reflect what an average korean thinks, its probably older greasy men who have never felt the touch of a woman who are crazy deep into conspiracy theories making ts up, talking about iu and the illuminati and whatnot

also they tend to be not just conservatives in their opinion for women but also supporters of the actual conservative parties in korea and make kpop idols political conspiracies

[hoary frost]

Well...not to us...but to these artists it can cross over (internet drama being reality)

[old cypress]

you could pick 10 people talking about reptilians and go "look foreign netizens are so dumb"

[hoary frost]

I mean I would say internet netizens comments and cyber wrecking played a huge role

[short laurel]

sadly yea. i was saying about what gp thinks is different from what netizens thinks. but sadly artists c things diffrent cuz of how loud internet is.

[hoary frost]

Now we can say, average person etc doesn't believe this
But the harm is still done and there was enough

[old cypress]

what usually happens is places like koreaboo and pannchoa find some random threads with 20 people, call them knetz and reshares it to hundreds of thousands of ifans

[hoary frost]

That's why I think same in these accounts who instead of jumping on companies jump on the groups. Bcuz while it's nothing to us , just a fanwars drama etc , to the artist it can play a huge role

[old cypress]

and then ifans think all koreans are like that

[hoary frost]

Ifans are equally bad. They try to deflect

And glorify themselves. Actually they are equally as toxic, stupid, and fall for hate trains

[empty halo]

exactly, most less crhonically online koreans probably dont keep up w these theories and when nwjns does make a comeback, i think most avg koreans will stream and buy what they sell

[hoary frost]

I think njz image is more good amongst Korea than international

[old cypress]

because korea is normal people + kpop fans and international is kpop fans only

[empty halo]

100%

[hoary frost]

I actually know some people who are international and kind of know njz because of songs like super shy (not really into kpop) and they also are on njz side and are kinda confused

Because such people are into these kpop fandom politics or there to defend kpop industry like their life depends on it

[old cypress]

yeah there are international normies but they are never included when we talk about ifans

[hoary frost]

Yeah of course but I am just bringing this up because I think njz music actually has alot of appeal to international normies. They often got viral and praise for it

[old cypress]

njz image is actually good internationally but it doesn't feel like it because the only vocal ones are hardcore kpop fans

[hoary frost]

Yeah, their mission is to uphold K-pop structure lol

[old cypress]

pretty much yes, they glorify 3rd gen and 2nd gen kpop and are mostly resistant to actual change

[subtle matrix]

NJZ filming Super Shy in Lisbon was one of the things that made me start pay attention to kpop

[hoary frost]

They always start on some yap about how 2nd gen lived with cockroaches and whatnot and how spoiled new gen is

[old cypress]

"my oppa suffered more than yours" vibes

[split bramble]

korean incels had it in for her ever since the protest rallies just like njz

[hoary frost]

Oh nice!!

Super shy went super viral amongst the public I guess

[subtle matrix]

Now I'm an anti because they got to ride on a clean bus for the MV while I have to ride dirty ones

[hoary frost]

Lol oh no how could they do this

Overall I think it's decent though if njz fanbase is general public, and fans who stick with their autonomy and rights

So if there is a fandom cleanse that's ok...

[short laurel]

only for new gen to still be livign in same condition.

[copper jetty]

i haven't been here yesterday so what went down?? Is there anything new?

I'm asking before i backread.

[short laurel]

nothing new related to njz

[copper jetty]

oh ok then.. that's good. No news is good news

[short laurel]

there's one u can call stretch but knowing hybe history. it is enough for internet drama going on rn though.

[copper jetty]

which one? And why is it a stretch?

[short laurel]

i'll dm. shouldn't start discussion on it here again

[copper jetty]

thanks namiko

[copper current]

https://x.com/aegis_of_njz/status/1909440181662629936

AEGIS of NJZ🛡 (@aegis_of_njz) on X

KBS의 영상이 삭제되었습니다.💪
전세계 Tokki 분들께 감사드립니다.🙏
KBS 청원을 주도해주신 분께도 특별히 감사드려요.😎

KBS's video has been deleted.
Thank you to Tokki all over the world.
I also especially appreciate the person who led KBS petition.

X · Apr 8, 2025, 2:56 AM

[stiff prairie]

what petition and what video?

[copper current]

https://x.com/webelieveinbots/status/1909628785516851528

webelieveingwarosa (@webelieveinbots) on X

Just when #njz was able to submit even more evidence, the court announced the objection will be held in private… I wonder why

X · Apr 8, 2025, 3:25 PM

[copper current]

Petition to make kbs not post misinfo video. I posted link few days ago

[copper jetty]

what in the??? WHY???

[stiff prairie]

think i missed that. good

[copper jetty]

It's weird... Why is this now private when this was so public before? Did the judge maybe see what bunnies/ people were saying in the news or socials?? 💀

[frozen bronze]

i think this is better, it doesnt matter what is presented there we have already seen the media can twist it into something bad

[heady gate]

What is "held in private"?

[steel depot]

will be held in private the translations off

[copper jetty]

There'll be no media. I do hope even with the main case the judge also puts a gag order on it.

[old cypress]

Private is better, less media noise

[copper jetty]

But idk, even if it's held privately doesn't that mean that Hybe can still leak the details? Like they did before?

[storm warren]

no media, no attendance except two involved parties

[old cypress]

They can but it would be leaks

[copper jetty]

A gag order would be better

[storm warren]

sejong might have asked it due to massive negative mediaplay after injunction or judge might have chosen so based on the information that will be presented idk

[copper jetty]

the thing i don't like is this though. Hybe knows they need to control the narrative so they'll leak what they can first.

[steel depot]

yeah a lot of people are making up court movements like they know what they're doing and it's getting annoying... i just hope it's held privately so no one could leak sht but knowing hybe.... idk

[heady gate]

Dispatch will find a leak.

[storm warren]

dw lee jinho will leak it first

[steel depot]

or make up something like they always do always fake news and hate

[copper jetty]

either that scummy guy or dispatch... we all know how they're besties with Hybe

[steel depot]

well bffs for money doesn't last

[old cypress]

hybe has a lot of golf besties outside of these 2

[copper jetty]

idk, i would say it would last since they have mutual benefits. More clicks and views for those cyberwreckers and Dispatch and Hybe also gets what they want.

[midnight timber]

did njz ask it to be private?

[copper jetty]

we don't know if they did or Hybe did or could be the judge too

Do you guys think Sejong brought up that what Hybe forwarded was the wrong date of tape? or what?? That's gonna be a fun explanation.

[old cypress]

It doesn't matter much, the important thing for the judge is whether ador did its job defending njz or not

[steel depot]

idk why they didn't question that in the first place, they were not consistent about the cctv

[old cypress]

also, the judge already knows it's from a different day

[copper jetty]

Really?

[steel depot]

but still approved the injunction idk... korea court is so lame sorry

[copper jetty]

What did Ador argue for them to show a cctv footage of a different day?

[old cypress]

nevermind I mixed up things

[polar owl]

Maybe showing that in general there is no ill treatment

Hanni instance is an exception

[steel depot]

that what hanni said didn't happen...

[copper jetty]

so a one off footage somehow generally shows the whole treatment somehow 💀 ? Also, the manager not greeting the members (dani and hanni) in the first place?

HOW????

you know what, i don't know anymore.

[old cypress]

the judge believes ador did its job inquiring belift

[clever parcel]

they said footage is deleted apparently from that day and that when the girls team asked the security conpany to show the footage, that it was no longer available

[frozen bronze]

so once again they are saying hybe was at fault but ador wasnt

[copper jetty]

so basically they did the bare minimum. They just reviewed what was there but never questioned why some of the footage was erased... is what i'm reading here.

[old cypress]

MHJ was still CEO at that time

[polar owl]

How do you expect the organisation which is fighting in court to present the evidence against themselves? 🤔

[clever parcel]

exactly

[polar owl]

Can't the court ask any agency to seize footage and have it examined impartially in civil cases?

[old cypress]

imo the whole ignore her situation is useless in court unless we establish that hybe = belift = odor

[old cypress]

they deleted it and the footage doesn't have audio anyway

[clever parcel]

idk atp because the security company as i said keeps on saying the footage is no longer availabld to view

[copper jetty]

it doesn't really matter to me who the ceo was at the time. I'm guessing they forwarded this to Hybe HR since technically Ador would defer to a higher management since it's not just them but another agency plus, building management included in the investigation.

[frozen bronze]

the footage of the incident itself is not that big of a deal, the problem is that hybe blatantly is showing the wrong date and hybe = ador

[clever parcel]

its not entirely uselss because you'd see them not greeting at the least

[subtle matrix]

The problem is that by now HYBE has the convenient excuse of footage being deleted automatically so it's very likely it doesn't exist anymore by any means

[frozen bronze]

idk why would they have that specific piece of footage but anything else is deleted

[short laurel]

This discussion again. We going in circle

[polar owl]

Forensic agencies can figure out if footage was deleted by policy or by force.

[polar owl]

Because this was retrieved and saved

[old cypress]

In any case, ador at that time did what they could within its perimeter of action. The irony is the judge using mhj's tenure to say "see ador is protecting newjeans"

[subtle matrix]

The HYBE angle is that the security team only found that interaction and after Hanni reviewed it and said it was another instance, the footage had already been deleted

[copper jetty]

Plus they have that footage when they said that they usually delete after 30 days. Why is a footage earlier than what hanni said is available and one at a later instance deleted. that's sus.

[polar owl]

I guess this is no longer the direction for sejong in the main case

[old cypress]

because they saved it apparently and let the rest expire

[mild mist]

'sus' doesn't fly in court though

[copper jetty]

true

[frozen bronze]

i feel like some common sense should still tell the judge that that is ill intent by hybe

[copper jetty]

also common sense that something is kind of suspicious in this instance too or idk

[old cypress]

it's not enough to prove that it was orders from the manager imo but i'm no lawyer

[clever parcel]

agreed absolutely

[polar owl]

Old Ador ≠ New Ador

[frozen bronze]

again i dont think retrieving the actual footage is that important, maybe for fanwars sure, but a good argument that hybe is purposefully showing the wrong date, and that current ador is equal to that hybe should be good in court

[clever parcel]

very small weightage

[subtle matrix]

The "ignore her" angle was always going to be very circumstantial and I think in general people are placing far too much emphasis on it. Even if NJZ somehow got a hold of the footage, and even if somehow there was enough on it to definitively prove everything Hanni claims, it wouldn't do much to help their case unless they also proved that HYBE conspired with Belift to keep it hidden. There's other angles they should focus on imo

[copper jetty]

also wasn't there a statement from old Ador about the situation and the other Ador board or now CEO reprimanded MHJ about this?

[clever parcel]

again from adors perspective, they r saying that no other instance happened so what fhe judge deicdes fron there is when we can think about this more

[old cypress]

yeah initially it was just an example given by hanni and it really snowballed into the "main" thing

[polar owl]

The judge needs to be convinced that parent Hybe acted in a way detrimental to the interest of Newjeans for an extended period of time, New Ador didn't have any concrete plans either, and this was good enough for a loss of trust.

[copper jetty]

well, they said they were planning their 2025 albums and activities so there's that too. I mean Mark Ronson

[polar owl]

But not to their parents - 1.5 years to find a new producer

Also, they lost 2024

[copper jetty]

thing is it was Hybe that said that. And even if Hybe said that, It is separate from Ador. Isn't that what their argument was?

[subtle matrix]

The case hangs in how willing the judge is to take all of these relatively minor issues (let's be real if NJZ only had 1 of their complaints they would have 0 shot to win this case) and put them all together while also being willing to accept the ADOR =/= ADOR argument. It's not going to be easy but they seem willing to entertain it at least which is a good sign for NJZ

[polar owl]

If judge believes Hybe had nothing to dobin this case, it's just overlooking the most obvious

[copper jetty]

I still don't know how Sejong would tackle this. Ador's argument sounds pretty good and I'm saying this because Old Ador did it's job well at protecting NJZ. Curse you MHJ at how good you are at your job and they're now taking credit for it.

[polar owl]

This should be a good reason on the contrary

[old cypress]

the injunction judge is honestly really weird as he kept coming up with excuses to defend ador, the main lawsuit judge looks less biased so far

[frozen bronze]

the main case judge seems to be willing to see both perspectives but injunction judge doesnt

[polar owl]

Yeah, injunction was 'dealt with' as 'needed'

[short laurel]

about attack on girls by media. mhj took action and hybe puppets scodled mhj for it.

[heady gate]

https://www.nme.com/news/music/ador-hybe-feud-timeline-story-3754759

[subtle matrix]

I don't think it's up to belief, it's up to how flexible the judge is at fitting the complaints into the legal framework. He might very well believe in NJZ and still think they don't have a case

[copper jetty]

this. couldn't they present this. This just shows how different the "OLD ADOR" from the new one.

[frozen bronze]

did he even admit a single (small) claim?

[short laurel]

after hybe said that. hybe put their ppl in ador. and kicked original ador people. 🤔

[old cypress]

no it was 0/11 lol

[frozen bronze]

like its crazy to pretend they dont even have a leg to stand on

[old cypress]

he looked at every claim and went "is it enough to terminate contracts? nope"

[short laurel]

yea. they are arguing this in main suit. that old ador n current ador are different with same shell.

[polar owl]

Putting artists out of business by injunction for an extended period of time, till the main lawsuit is resolved, is like asking them to fight and handcuffing their finances

[copper jetty]

Also isn't this a huge conflict of interest though? Hybe BOD people also Ador BOD people???

[old cypress]

not hybe BOD, just execs

[copper jetty]

welp my bad then but i still think it's a conflict of interest... What if for instance Ador's benefit isn't the same as Hybe Benefit??? What then?

[old cypress]

Yes of course there's conflict of interest. Current ador CEO is still Hybe head of HR

[short laurel]

njz not have any rights in who gets to be in the company. girls are contract workers, not shareholders. what they need to show is that people put by hybe are not working in njz interest.

[copper jetty]

Like let's be fr... Even if they're under an umbrella company, There's still other companies under Hybe which is competition to Ador.

[heady gate]

more fake news

[copper jetty]

The other day it was Haerin... Now it's Hyein???

[ashen charm]

It's true I'm hyeins father 16 cuzin

[short laurel]

ofc. now it's hyein's turn. shame of korean journalist and hybe. she's just a kid.

[old cypress]

it's hybe's tactic all along

[copper jetty]

And I'm the aunt... The uncle's wife connected to that internet company.

[ashen charm]

When will it be bernices turn

That damn bunny smiling to much

[copper jetty]

Bernice been getting dragged since last year. Remember she got left behind at Hybe

[subtle matrix]

Tbf I have no idea why the parents statement threw hyein under the bus like that

[short laurel]

"bernice was made by mhj to shade xyz group/member"

[subtle matrix]

This was predictable

[ashen charm]

Let's shave bernice bald

[copper jetty]

This i did not know and do not care which group it is

[short laurel]

yea. i wonder that too

[short laurel]

it's just made up statement by me...

[old cypress]

prob didn't wanna hide anything, just be transparent since the court details are out

[copper jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[old cypress]

unlike hybe njz and their parents are not allowed to lie

they lie once and it's over

[short laurel]

hopefully her parents issue is not related ot hybe and both sides wants to protect her from hybe.

[subtle matrix]

They could've just denied the haerin rumours

[clever parcel]

ador has always(like bekfre all this) said that the girls are equal to ador. no more no less. they are not working FOR ador basically

[copper jetty]

Did Ador argue anything about the canceled fan meet and the NJ1 album?

[short laurel]

yea. never heard anything on that.

[copper jetty]

me too. that's why I'm asking. Has anyone read anything about it?

[mild mist]

well wasn't min heejin the source for this?

[empty halo]

Is there any actual tangible evidence that Hyeins father opposed the contract termination or did they pull it out of their ass

[old cypress]

no evidence

[copper jetty]

the source??

[old cypress]

they'd have moved to hyein anyway, since if it's not haerin it's hyein

[mild mist]

the first person to mention the fanmeet

[empty halo]

amazing 😍

[clever parcel]

the parents already said no one is in disagreemrnt so its false

[copper jetty]

Yeah.

[steel depot]

she wasn't going to do any song/album until the legal battle ended that's what she said right?

[empty halo]

yeah right I read an article apparently the investigation was done by "new daily" or something its probably bullshit

[ashen charm]

They are throwing what ever narrative and hope it sticks

[short laurel]

i don't think she said that

[short laurel]

since april 2024.

[clever parcel]

yeah and i think that they also said that they r gonna fight against the journalist or smth too

[empty halo]

great people are already tryna make her the "keena" of njz they can't even leave the 16 year old alone 😭

[copper jetty]

But not just that though, even the NJ1. It was announced for Q4 of 2024 and i think it was announced since April last year even before How Sweet so yeah... Ador never argued anything about why it's canceled. Also last news i got with korean fanmeet before was Ador canceled it because of the stadium's "grass". If i remember correctly

[empty halo]

GOOD they need to sue him to oblivion

[ashen charm]

There saying njz is the new fity Fifty like no that was way different

[steel depot]

i probably misread or it's probably due to belift copying the concept that's why she's not going to release anything ..

[clever parcel]

[empty halo]

and it isn't like fifty fifty did anything wrong anyw imo atleast

[short laurel]

provide source pls cuz i not remember anythign like that

[ashen charm]

This

[old cypress]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1834383675288351094

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

He added, “Some people ask why Kim & Chang law firm would take on lawsuits that won’t succeed, but they fail to realize that the purpose is to create ongoing disputes by raising issues continuously. It’s a form of ‘high-level legal advice.’”

3/

X · Sep 13, 2024, 12:08 AM

[copper jetty]

When did MHJ say this cause I know they were still on the plan during supernatural (before she got kicked)

[steel depot]

yeah she got kicked out

[empty halo]

I assumed the media/Hybe PR would attack Hanni or Danielle the most, they're older and the most outspoken I genuinely didn't expect them to stoop so low and go after Hyein because it probably hurts their reputation too, why would they do this

[old cypress]

They want to break the girls

[empty halo]

crazy work

[copper jetty]

They're singling the girls one by one...
Minji- kalguksu
Hyein- Uncle (davolink) and this
Haerin- the family court thing last week
Hanni- Visa and foreigner
Dani- MHJ supporter

[short laurel]

their reputation is already at low. they are always in so many controversies. so it's clear they don't care about hybe's reputation. but super quick to defend BSH as always

[empty halo]

true

[ashen charm]

The ones that were the most damaging were danielle and hanni

[hot girder]

I think going for the youngest members (both minors) is very low for a company like hybe

[old cypress]

hybe like every company hides behind their idols so the groups will still be successful because their fans will support the innocent idols even though it means giving money to hybe. But over time hybe's low reputation will hurt their ability to find exceptional talent and/or debut successful groups

[copper jetty]

yeah... i think the most damaging one on all this is still Hanni.

[short laurel]

not really. even when BBC was at it's lowest just be4 being defuct. kids were still joining for training.

[old cypress]

yeah but not exceptional talent. There's always kids joining for fame or for a chance to be an idol. But great talents will have offers from multiple companies and they'll pick SM over hybe

[empty halo]

you can't say it's unexpected
I think they're trying to make it seem as if Hyein and Haerin who are naturally quieter bc they're the younger ones and expect the older members to put forth the point in a better manner are being targeted as the ones who are being "dragged" into this lawsuit by the older ones i.e Hanni Danielle and Minji

[ashen charm]

It was easy as she's the only non korean in the group danielle I'd half but she was child star in korea

Mhj has her own personal issues but you can't deny she did what she could for njz when they legit had no one

[frozen bronze]

well said

[empty halo]

at the end of the day its still an attempt at causing more hate towards Hanni Minji and Dani, by dragging families into this

[copper jetty]

Like I said, MHJ did her job too well that Fraudor now claims what she did as theirs.

[short laurel]

remember when that lady from fraudor took credit for bunnie camp tokyo dome

[copper jetty]

Those first NewJeans pop up store and now most groups who debut has pop ups, also the tokyo dome that one of the Hybe people in Ador put in her linked in? That was WILD.

[copper jetty]

that was what i was thinking

[ashen charm]

Njz need to win this lawsuit so other groups can do the and follow and leave there labels if there not being treated fairly

[short laurel]

ok we cycled through alot of older topics today. which are left? 🤔

[steel depot]

well everything is connected and we can't discard that fact if she was still in ador she'll probably release it but since it got disrupted and she got kicked out...

https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/min-hee-jin-claims-newjeans-album-work-fan-meeting-abruptly-stopped-after-her-removal-as-ador-ceo-hybe-refutes-1350368

[copper jetty]

Ador on their arguments on why they canceled NJ1 and korean fanmeet.

[old cypress]

it's good to cycle through older topics though, not everyone is online all the time and it helps everyone to reinforce or correct their facts

[copper jetty]

"grass issues"?

[short laurel]

However, HYBE was quick to respond to her claims. Clarifying the reason behind the suspension of NewJeans’ fan meetings and album work, the agency stated, “It was not due to the dismissal of Director Min and the exclusion of the deputy CEO's work.”

so she said hybe cancelled it. hybe said they did but cuz of different reason. so mhj didn't say she cancelled it.

[short laurel]

IU performed just fine.

[copper jetty]

which is what?? What do you mean by that???

[empty halo]

what sort of grass issues could possibly prevent a kpop performance

[copper jetty]

What happened with the grass? Was it burned?

[old cypress]

football team complaining about turf deterioration

[empty halo]

it could affect a sport and players for sure but for idols to perform music on? "Grass issues" is nonsense

[short laurel]

they and fans were complaining ground would degrade or something cus of concert. but IU performed just fine IIRC

[copper jetty]

Unless they're performing on grass and not on stage. 💀

[short laurel]

there was public sitting on ground u know

[empty halo]

RIGHT?? ISNT THERE GONNA BE A STAGE 😭 so silly lmaoo

[copper jetty]

Also I do rememeber was it IU's supposed concert after this and it was fine??

[old cypress]

they don't perform without a crowd, guys

[short laurel]

also all the equipment for stage. they all are on ground. the drama last year on it was valid.

[old cypress]

it caused a lot of drama

but for newjeans it's probably yet another lie

[short laurel]

they didn't give reason for nj1 cancellation btw. so lets focus on that

[empty halo]

that's odd bc whenever there's sports games and musicians perform, a temporary stage is set up on the ground. This has been done for ages in games in a lot of countries. Why is it an issue for IU/nwjns

[copper jetty]

well let's go back to the article we got side tracked because of the grass issue but MHJ got kicked out and technically NJ1 and the fan meet got canceled by Hybe. They didn't really tell the reason though for NJ1 cancellation. It just got canceled.

[short laurel]

korea crazy about football.

[empty halo]

or is it a Korea thing

[hot girder]

why is it even an issue when newjeans did perform on grass before lol

[empty halo]

oh right I see it is a Korea thing

[hot girder]

when they played for the tottemham thing in korea

[old cypress]

not a performance, a concert. With seats on the field

[hot girder]

did the place deny the concert or was it hybe?

[short laurel]

grass condition and sports. it's much complicated than it sounds. depending on how ground is ball can behave very differently. it can change the game. sometimes field are fine and they can do multiple things there. but sometimes it needs extreme care.

[old cypress]

nobody knows. It's probably a lie because ador could just find another venue

[copper jetty]

it says here the rental was rejected due to grass issues. Didn't say by which.

[short laurel]

but IU did do her performance there. so it really questionable why nj was rejected

[hollow sorrel]

yeah and they can easily look for a different stadium

[empty halo]

bc they weren't rejected HYBE is lying

[old cypress]

ador is just trying to go "we wanted to give our cherished girls the biggest stage but it got denied due to grass issues! how unfortunate!"

[hot girder]

yeah they could have looked for another stadium

[hollow sorrel]

it's not the stadium that matters, but the fact that it was cancelled. If ADOR really cared and wanted to push through they could have looked for another venue, even if it's not that big, they could do multiple days like Tokyo Dome

[copper jetty]

from this I'm guessing Ador was considering this cup stadium but rejected it because of grass issues. There's no mention of the Stadium management otherwise, or i think the article would've said it. Just from my understanding though.

[empty halo]

this point is very real they just seemingly cancelled it for no reason and apparently planned on having the members go through a "long hiatus" which is OBVIOUSLY an attempt to hinder their career and growth, probably something they'll bring up in court?

[short laurel]

yea

[hollow sorrel]

https://x.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1909622800262087099?s=46&t=rG1o-Bkd-GgDMGG_CtSg2Q

do we think this user's claims could be true or just speculation?

Sheepymcsheep (@sheepymcsheepy) on X

So the objection for tomorrow will be held in private unlike the initial hearing.

Either some sensitive information's going to be revealed tomorrow, or the court recognized how much damage the media does.

https://t.co/AuAwfT6gW3

X · Apr 8, 2025, 3:02 PM

[hot girder]

I'm leaning more towards the latter

[copper jetty]

probably the second reason. The first injunction was sensationalized

[old cypress]

the ruling will be public anyway

[hollow sorrel]

"the court recognized how much damage the media does." --> I kinda hope this is the case, because that would further prove breakdown of trust, and how ADOR literally provided altered images which were then revealed by the media harming NJZ's and Hanni's reputation

[short laurel]

if something leaks out tomorrow. expect ador side has higher leg. if nothing leaks tomorrow expect njz has higher leg.

[empty halo]

altered images?

[copper jetty]

is it just me wishing that if NJ did have a higher chance that they'll leak it out.

Just to be spiteful of Hybe media play. They can show 2 can play that game not just Hybe

[short laurel]

if court has ordered to make it private then ador or girls can't leak it even if they want to

[hot girder]

NJZ is nowhere near able to do as much mediaplay as hybe does. Plus it's a shitty move and will make them look untrustworthy. You don't want that

[copper jetty]

Isn't private meaning no media but technically they can leak details? There's no gag order, is there?

[hollow sorrel]

well not necessarily like manipulated, they did reveal images between Hanni and MHJ and they cut out parts where Hanni ?was being kind to illit? (I worded this horribly)

so they tried to manipulate the narrative

[old cypress]

they can leak, it's not like the court can prove it

[empty halo]

OHHH you're talking about the text screenshots yeah they did manipulate those private conversations to serve their side

[empty halo]

the media and some people are willing to jump on anything nwjns does rn, leaking info that shows them having a leg up could be a bad look

[hollow sorrel]

yeah and this caused MASSIVE HATE to Hanni and it just doesn't make sense logically, like I get ADOR was trying to make their argument stronger, because it's a court hearing after all, but they could've done it in ways that doesn't harm NJZ's reputation

I hope the judge realizes this

[copper jetty]

idk... i have ptsd still from those Hanni "Liar" media play and i want that to go away and at least her side validated or at least not have them painted as that.

[empty halo]

oh yeah people lost it over those screenshots but also.... those are dms..... idk it feels very inappropriate to pull those out, apart from the fact that they definitely did they cut out parts to make it seem a certain way

[hollow sorrel]

Sejong also used those messages as evidence though
idk if it was in response to ADOR's claims or they just brought it up?

but it's still so interesting to me how during the first injunction of MHJ the judge saw how HYBE provided lots of manipulated pictures and stuff as evidence and didn't even look at them.

This situation was similar and the judge still sided with ADOR

[hot girder]

it's not gonna go away and those who hate on NJZ will skip the truth anyways

[short laurel]

girls side provided those ss here. that's the difference. ofc when released to public njz side hide ilit part but ador didn't hide anything.

[copper jetty]

anyways i'm going to sleep now guys. Good chat... I just hope we get good news.
Wait, is the hearing today or tomorrow?? I'm confused with the time difference.

[empty halo]

Sejong is siding w Hanni in this case, which means she probably consented to having her private chats be used. HYBE however just took chats between 2 people who are no longer in their company and revealed them, seems a bit not appropriate to me
Im not really aware of MHJ's injunction, I didn't know they sided w ADOR

I mean whether or not Hannis still in the company is the hot topic here but still she didn't consent to it basically and her private conversations were taken

[short laurel]

MHJ injunction was mhj vs hybe. mhj won and got to stay in ador as ceo. it was last year. later hybe found loophole and kicked her.

[empty halo]

ohhhh that one okay

[frozen bronze]

i think false evidence like that just gets ignored rather than reprimanded

[grizzled mural]

Are influencers getting paid to publish pro-Hybe videos?

I noticed influencers start to release Hybe talking point videos since the injunction. And it’s feels like media play similar to Blake Lively/Justin Baldoni situation.

[frozen bronze]

some of them maybe, others just do whatever gets most interaction

[waxen musk]

I'm missing them a lot recently. I'm also having doubts about them actually using their newly renamed IG account for their birthdays considering they haven't so far.

My Twitter is funny. I always see people doing damage control or showing support before I can actually find out the reason people are doing so.

I think this is the reality we will have to live with for months now. And I hate to say I'm used to it and feel nothing now.

[vale grove]

Same. I am just gonna watch old content and try and ignore this for the time being.

[pulsar wasp]

We know it’s Pit Stop, I was jw if this CDQ version is legit, or Ai generated. Many here are claiming it’s Ai. I’ll go with that. Thx y’all.

[old cypress]

it's safe to assume all the ygleaker copycats are false

[vocal sable]

bro these girls on tiktok live are saying so much stuff about njz, they know nothing.

@ateezmingis if yall wanna join its actually embarrassing for them lowk

[frozen granite]

When do we know the objection results ?

[subtle matrix]

1-2 weeks from tomorrow I'd guess

[cinder verge]

is something happening tomorrow?

[subtle matrix]

Objection hearing

[cinder verge]

oh

what are the chances of actually something good coming out of that

[storm warren]

0.01%

[waxen musk]

At least there's a chance

[cinder verge]

why so low

[subtle matrix]

The objection is kind of a formality which you need to go through before you can appeal. Same judge and I think you're not even allowed to present new arguments, just new evidence.

[jade jolt]

do we know when does the objection start?

[subtle matrix]

bruh it starts tomorrow get your head in the game

[compact creek]

right?? they create all these fanwars for no reason meanwhile irl people are like oh u like ronaldo i like messi anyways blah blah blah its just fanwars in kpop are so unserious and stupid , thank god i dont have twitter

[copper current]

https://x.com/neviecutie/status/1909617666131742732

♛Rose♛≷²⁰| ᥫ᭡ | (@neviecutie) on X

All eyes on NJZ Objection tomorrow, Tokkis once again need to PAY ATTENTION. The real shit show starts tomorrow.

TAG PR is going to heavily push this into western media. We're already working on counter measures for this. And ofc, ONLY USE DIRECT AND CORRECT TRANSLATIONS!

X · Apr 8, 2025, 2:41 PM

[heady gate]

Good luck South Korea.

[hoary frost]

what is this

[heady gate]

He granted top company status to HYPE Corp. He rejected Hanni's workplace harassment claim, stating entertainers are not workers under Korean labor law.

[storm warren]

he is Yoon's follower. that automatically makes it bad

[short laurel]

He also said mhj bully cuz she back bich employee B 💀

[vocal sable]

wait guys so what happens if they loose?

[fleet nebula]

we riot in the streets

[heady gate]

If that happened, we would have to wait for the Exclusive contract validation trial on June 5. Hopefully, the girls can win the objection case tomorrow.

[shut kelp]

anything new? i've been avoiding twitter since they announced hiatus

what is this about hyein father?

[sly python]

come back tmrow maybe

[heady gate]

It is 9:21am KST. The objection hearing begins at 2pm.

[stuck roost]

Sejong better drop a 2011 messi type performance😭🔥

[grizzled summit]

Aren't they appealing today? What's the difference between objection and appeal? I'm pretty sure they're doing both today

[tall plover]

I dead ass have PTSD from waking up and seeing the comfort story after they were barred from any commercial activity

[old cypress]

in a few words: objection = same judge; appeal = different judge. To appeal they need to do the objection first and fail

[cinder narwhal]

on surface level is the hearing being private advantageous to the girls

[heady gate]

idk, but Dispatch will find a leak for fake news.

[fleet nebula]

find...fabricate...same same

[knotty sparrow]

stuffs would be leaking 100% especially advantageous things for hybe

[heady gate]

2 more hours.🕰️

[cinder narwhal]

they won't need to, hybe would give it to them

https://x.com/alldoorsoneroom/status/1909818557925568899

ADOR (@alldoorsoneroom) on X

[NOTICE] 아티스트 권익 침해 관련 법적 대응 상황 안내 (4.9)

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뉴진스의 권익보호를 위한 법적 대응과 관련하여 안내드립니다.

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X · Apr 9, 2025, 4:00 AM

good job my ador

[fleet nebula]

lmfao 12 months too late bro

[kindred estuary]

posted an hour before the objection

[cinder narwhal]

bArE miNimuM

[rain spade]

Err...

They haven't been doing anything till now. They gotta be joking

[fleet nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-hell-gif-17616758730413313573

[cinder narwhal]

should have dropped this the second they won the injunction

[copper current]

https://x.com/aarrttee01/status/1909790593888502014

.🩵 (@aarrttee01) on X

🚨4/9,이코노미스트. “‘실적 쇼크’ 전망에 흔들린 하이브, 주가 7%대 급락”
“HYBE Stock Crashes Over 7% on Grim ‘Earnings Shock’ Forecast”
하이브의 이타카홀딩스 상황이 너무 궁금해🤔
🔗 https://t.co/oxrgqy8TBb

X · Apr 9, 2025, 2:08 AM

https://x.com/aarrttee01/status/1909545482072080506

.🩵 (@aarrttee01) on X

🚨4/8. 가처분 심문 기일 하루 전, 대표적 친하이브 티브이데일리 김지현과 셀럽미디어 유진모가 ‘250억+@ 받은 뉴진스,대체 어도어 무엇을 못믿나?’와 ‘(뉴진스처럼 하면)어떤 자본이 한류에 투자하겠는가?’ 라는 내용의 기사로 가해자인 HYBEADOR와 피해자인 MHD...

X · Apr 8, 2025, 9:54 AM

[steel depot]

Hey sorry about the confusion last night re the grass thing... im a bit sleepy it was 1am when i sent that and it didn't came out the way i want it i wasn't stepping on any artists.

anyways... do we have a new update re today's private meeting for injunction objection?

[frozen granite]

Anything new ?

[copper jetty]

Nothing yet.

[knotty sparrow]

it's already started, right? are they attending?

[copper jetty]

No they didn't attend.

[hollow sorrel]

https://x.com/alldoorsoneroom/status/1909818557925568899?s=46&t=rG1o-Bkd-GgDMGG_CtSg2Q

ADOR (@alldoorsoneroom) on X

[NOTICE] 아티스트 권익 침해 관련 법적 대응 상황 안내 (4.9)

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당사는 뉴진스의 데뷔 이후 현재까지 아티스트를 향한 악의적인 온라인 게시물에 대해 상시 모니터링과 함...

X · Apr 9, 2025, 4:00 AM

[knotty sparrow]

oh okay

[hollow sorrel]

ADOR making a statement they will protect “NewJeans” a few hours before the hearing is sooo performative, cause where was this energy in the last like 7 months

[copper jetty]

BaRe MiniMum 🥴

[rain spade]

What's happening freaking private 😒

[craggy skiff]

I wonder will the court accept it as ador protect action?

[copper jetty]

They might. Lmao... I mean remember how the judge considered Ador's response even after the 14 days.

[rain spade]

obvously it will dammitt, if nott why would they release that ass stattementt

[craggy skiff]

Bcs even if they do something, it was after the break contract
If they accept this shjt, that will be a big joke

[copper jetty]

The thing here is I'm seeing that they actually filed a police complaint. In their previous ones it's always they monitored accounts and sites etc. I wonder what point they want to make to the judge with this

[thorny knot]

if the judge is smart they will see that adore should've done this months ago, and failed to protect the members resulting in the members terminating their contract

[copper jetty]

I do wonder though. The judge before accepted that Ador did its job... bare minimum though but they did it. It's the same with them responding after 14 days and I think it's the same with this.

[thorny knot]

we'll have to wait and see

[hollow sorrel]

what if today’s hearing’s main concern is how ADOR is failing to protect NewJeans? that would explain why ADOR posts a statement 1 hour before the hearing and why the hearing is private

[craggy skiff]

This is a year late action... Even if the courts are corrupt as f*ck, I dont know if they did something blatant like this

[thorny knot]

but hopefully the judge sees that this is adore only doing it for good press and not for the members sake, cause if it was for the members sake they would've done it from when the issue started and not now

[copper jetty]

I know before MHJ actually took action and filed cases even going after X users and DC insiders. After that there hasn't been any update even with the deep fakes going around. After that it's been nothing, until this

[craggy skiff]

I don't have high expectations about today's objection.
And ador don't need this point to keep their win.
It could be used for later court

[copper jetty]

Or the main court

[craggy skiff]

Ah. I remember ador also claims mhj protect actions as their try
What a shameless

[thorny knot]

exactly while she was ceo she went after these people and then after she was removed as ceo we hear nothing about it till now cause they simply don't care about the members, like you can have your own opinion about MHJ but you can't deny that she did everything in her power to protect the members

[thorny knot]

yeah same here

[craggy skiff]

Think about this, could ador make an argument that bcs ador already take action recently(even if when it under mhj), so they don't make anything new until the last one has a result?

[copper jetty]

Also i remember during the Belift hanni thing Ador made a statement regarding protecting the artists, what's funny is we see in court it was actually MHJ releasing that as Ador and other Ador executives reprimanding her for it. 💀

Like do they want to get in Belift's good side or protect their artists?

I still don't get why the judge didn't see this during the injunction. Like what in the fudge..

[thorny knot]

it's the first one they wanna be on belift's good side they don't care about the girls

[craggy skiff]

Hybe is suck in early game with their conflicted behaviours
I also joke about if park ji woon is mhj side and trying to give her more advantages

[hollow sorrel]

I also remember when the trainee videos were leaked MHJ wanted to take legal actions against SouMu, but the other board members stopped her because it would look bad to the media (that 2 HYBE subsidiaries are going against each other)

[copper jetty]

I remember this too... HyBe FaMilY 🥴

[craggy skiff]

Anyway, my tiktok comment section just got some peace the last few days
It's gonna be a mess again after the next few hours

[thorny knot]

not even just the trainee videos, don't forget hybe sent dispatch to stalk mhj and the girls

[hollow sorrel]

are they rearguing the whole case ugh I really want to know what’s going on

[thorny knot]

they even acquired the same company that basically ruined blake livey's career, in which she sued them and won, like what reason other than to run smear campaigns does hybe need that company

[copper jetty]

We'll probably know by the end of the day. I can smell dispatch articles in the next few hours.

[thorny knot]

yep they said media play monday isn't enough we need to do it for the entire week minimum

[craggy skiff]

They already. I also see a post claim that hyein's father is the one who does not agree with other member parent

[copper jetty]

Which is funny cause last week they told it was haerin's. I read that article it was a bunch of speculation just because they had a case in family court.

I bet it's the same bunch of nothing burger in that. They're all just speculating again.

[thorny knot]

yeah def not true otherwise the members would've made an announcement, and even then they keep changing their story up like they really just praying on the girls downfall

[craggy skiff]

Why don't they just say both haerin and hyein do not agree with the other 3 instead of changing the name everyday

[copper jetty]

I do hope they have more evidence to present now... and since team bunnies are cooperating with sejong I hope they got more.

[thorny knot]

cause it's not true and it's easier to say one member, but even then the members kept saying that if one of them didn't want to do something they wouldn't do it which directly contradicts these rumors

[craggy skiff]

Joke: could it be a possibility that sejong is hybe side? 💀

[thorny knot]

don't jinx us

[copper jetty]

I'm still expecting the worst but hoping for the best. That way I won't be blindsided like last injunction result.

[cinder verge]

whats going on

[thorny knot]

talking about this
https://x.com/alldoorsoneroom/status/1909818557925568899?s=46&t=rG1o-Bkd-GgDMGG_CtSg2Q

ADOR (@alldoorsoneroom) on X

[NOTICE] 아티스트 권익 침해 관련 법적 대응 상황 안내 (4.9)

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어도어입니다.

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X · Apr 9, 2025, 4:00 AM

[cinder verge]

english translation?

nvm ill just translate it

[cinder verge]

are they actually doing any of this

[copper jetty]

Also the objection on the njz injunction is happening now

[thorny knot]

the police report yes someone confirmed it already

[cinder verge]

whats all this shit theyre saying about haerin and hyein

[thorny knot]

the other stuff who knows

[copper jetty]

They apparently filed a complaint. Funny though they only updated now after months of "monitoring" 🥴

[cinder narwhal]

if the girls do come back, do you think they'll lose some supporters too?

[thorny knot]

that they are considering dropping the case

[cinder verge]

is this true

[warm void]

I don't think so

[half knot]

oh ador, if you had done even 20% of what you are claiming you will do now, things wouldn't get this far in the first place

[copper jetty]

Nah... the girls said either all of them do this or nothing. Even the parents.

Probably hybe media play on wanting to separate the girls

[thorny knot]

i mean they prob will but there's gonna be a lot of bunnies who will be just like fearnot after their past controversies and comeback after and say they supported through everything even tho they were talking shit

[copper jetty]

Idk actually... although for me I would say wherever they go, if they do come back I'll still support them.

[cinder narwhal]

hmm I'm more talking about the overly vocal ones supporting them not the ones who left then might come back

[copper jetty]

When you say overly vocal ones you mean the ones on X??

[cinder narwhal]

just wondering if they'll feel betrayed lol even if they keep saying "support the girls no matter what"

[thorny knot]

ah in that case i don't think so those bunnies are ride or die

[rain spade]

Really a? There's really no update from the private court 😒

[cinder narwhal]

it's private... meaning the results also

[rain spade]

Any leakers

[copper jetty]

No. It takes time to leak things. Maybe wait until after the court hearing... then a couple more hours since it takes time to write articles too.

[thorny knot]

nah fr i need to know

[cinder narwhal]

Hopefully

[thorny knot]

it's my hopium but yeah

[copper jetty]

Private just means there's no media inside. There's no gag order isn't there?

[thorny knot]

not that ik of

i'm sure they would've mentioned a gag order if one was in place

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1909848486553829793?t=DEPlf4VrvSwEr8cR0H7CSQ&s=33

반희수🫧 (@catzkang) on X

The hearing concluded in just 15 minutes today. The court is anticipated to issue a ruling soon.

X · Apr 9, 2025, 5:58 AM

[rain spade]

Wtf

[thorny knot]

pls be in the girls favor

[copper jetty]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[marble cape]

im assuming no mediaplay from hybe means hybe lost?

[cinder narwhal]

cooked

[copper jetty]

We don't know this yet. But my timeline is too quiet.

[stuck roost]

15 minutes😭⁉️

[marble cape]

i mean the tl would be crazy right now its to quiet

[copper jetty]

Yeah. It being short I'm kinda nervous

[frozen granite]

This would sort of disappoint me …

[copper jetty]

Yeah I mean, we already know that this objection might not go our way. It's a stepping stone to get to the appeal.

[cinder narwhal]

https://m.newspim.com/news/view/20250409000778

[hollow sorrel]

15 is crazy

[rain spade]

Nothing has change means it still favor ador I guess

[frozen granite]

I would hope the members don’t go back to ador honestly they would get a lot of backlash

[warm void]

oh I misread

[wary creek]

I'd imagine the objection failing if it was only 15 mins

[stuck roost]

15 minutes is crazy

That’s like 5 haerin vlogs long

[rain spade]

So that means nothing new if is that short

[short laurel]

Seriously they taking action now? Police complaint too? Team bunnies alone has been doing all that for months n girls team themselves had to take action too but now ador swoop in months later n trying to say they protecting girls 🤦

N it's been over 15 mon. Where's the result

[thorny knot]

nah fr tho cause like they said they took those sites down but apparently it was only for a few days then the sites were back up and are still up like bruh

[frozen granite]

If njz wins I’ll gift everyone a nitro

[thorny knot]

yeah we screenshotting this and pinning it

[frozen granite]

[heady gate]

💸

[thorny knot]

nah fr tho just do a giveaway for 5 nitro

[frozen granite]

I will if they win 😭

[cinder verge]

so literally nothing happened at the hearing

[wind monolith]

Its been a while since i have been in this chat🫠

[rain spade]

screenshot thiis

[orchid field]

So we start doomposting?

[knotty sparrow]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1909848151093395787?t=pz89XvSlKgeSIbnVEOhCqA&s=19

Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

Hearing ended within 15 minutes in private
Court will make a decision fairly soon. Not sure when or what fairly soon exactly means

Reminder that this Objection is what NJZ has to go through to file for an Appeal which has been their goal from the start

X · Apr 9, 2025, 5:57 AM

[half knot]

Reminder that this Objection is what NJZ has to go through to file for an Appeal which has been their goal from the start

I don't think that's necessarily true but hey it's on Twitter!

[storm warren]

i mean no one has hope that the judge will overturn his own initial decision lol

[half knot]

They just went through this because it's faster and the lawyers can clock some more hours!

[upbeat stream]

I think team bunnies said that objection is necessary before appeal if the party that didn't file the injunction loses and wants to appeal. And they have got lawyers so I'm assuming they are right

[half knot]

I don't remember that part, but remember these law firms don't actually care what happens to their clients as long as they get paid more and more. and team bunnies is at best parroting what NJZ lawyers told them.

[heady gate]

Team bunnies have lawyers? Damn, they are rich.

[upbeat stream]

Team bunnies have their own lawyers though, unrelated to njz's legal team

[storm warren]

well its not like u know better than them so might as well let them do what they know better

[frozen granite]

I wonder how one joins team bunnies

[short laurel]

the 1 lawyer they hired has been njz and mhj supporter ever since her press con. so atleast there's one who is fighting for the right cause. atleast that's his appearence online.

https://x.com/hahagatung/status/1909849289263849804 someone translate pls

할말 (@hahagatung) on X

@newz25287 @gyang137137 법원은 사실 이의신청 심문 전부터 대부분 서면으로 판단 준비를 마쳐놓는 경우가 많아서 이번 그냥 형식적 확인이었을 수 있어요. “잘 알겠습니다. 입장 확인했고 조만간 결정 내릴게요” 수준

X · Apr 9, 2025, 6:02 AM

[compact creek]

this is hilarious

[cinder verge]

whats the difference between objection and appeal

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1909861971505361183

[narrow seal]

250409 PoppyKPoppie (@​PoppyKPoppie) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1909861971505361183
10 minutes to complete a hearing. that judge is cooked.

[heady gate]

Appeal is going to be have a different judge

[heady gate]

#1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

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from extra3x7r4

Reminder that this Objection is what NJZ has to go through to file for an Appeal which has been their goal from the start
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[knotty sparrow]

appeal, that one who started on 5th june, right?

[rain spade]

no. main corty

2nd hearing of the main lawsuit iiis on 5th june

[knotty sparrow]

ah

[shy schooner]

Under 20 min is crazy

[knotty sparrow]

ugh, there's still a long road

[frozen granite]

So no results right

[thorny knot]

correct nothing yet

[copper jetty]

If I'm not mistaken an appeal usually ends up to another judge. One who has a higher authority in these things compared to the tribunal courts like for this instance an appellate court...

[craggy skiff]

The court takes ten minutes to turn on his laptop to check ador latest announcement then leave

[copper jetty]

Maybe the judge saw how his character was also dragged to the mud with this and that's why he wanted to have this private..

[storm warren]

"In fact, the court often prepares its judgment in writing before the hearing of the objection, so this may have been just a formal confirmation. “Okay, I understand. I have confirmed your position and will make a decision soon.”"

[short laurel]

prepares judgment be4 hearing ??

[storm warren]

assuming it means he reviewed everything before hearing and there was not much needed to be said or done

just confirmed new arguments that could reverse case and called it a day

its pointless to wreck our brains on objection when there is close to zero chance he will reverse his decision

[subtle matrix]

15 min kinda tracks given then nature of the process. Idk why you're even forced to go through the objection before you appeal

[heady gate]

which side suggested having private session in court, Ador or NJZ?

[copper jetty]

same. I don't know why they can't instantly appeal. Maybe it's procedural in cases like this?

[copper jetty]

Not mentioned which side. Just that the Judge said it would be private.

[heady gate]

I guess we will find out from Dispatch.

[subtle matrix]

Might've been the judge himself too

[storm warren]

from what i searched, it is not absolute necessity, depends on type of case

[subtle matrix]

I think here they had to right?

[cinder narwhal]

articles say newjeans

[storm warren]

thats what it says so i guess

[heady gate]

It is 4:33pm kst. This hearing is longer than I thought.

[storm warren]

hearing is over

[short laurel]

it was 10-15 min of hearing. there's nothing more just waiting for result

[thorny knot]

yeah been over for a bit

[copper jetty]

which article? Can you send?

[stable escarp]

The judge waiting for the wire to come thru

[cinder narwhal]

scroll up

[copper jetty]

Lmao now it's dispatch, chosun etc. that waiting for the wire to come thru to release those articles.

[thorny knot]

we should pin this cause at this point that's all we do here

[short laurel]

#1231839760759263232 message don't forget this.

[narrow seal]

Message linked

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from tokkijz

If njz wins I’ll gift everyone a nitro
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[hollow sorrel]

Is it just me but it makes perfect sense for the objection to be 15 minutes long, Wasn’t the injunction initially 30 minutes long?

This time only one side presented evidence/made arguments so it makes sense it would be ~10-15 minutes

[short laurel]

can take years but we'll win for sure and everyone will get free nitro by tokkijz

[subtle matrix]

Free nitro is the only reason I'm here tbh

[stable escarp]

[copper jetty]

she said "to everyone" right? if NJZ wins I'm going to stop my nitro sub and have that instead

[subtle matrix]

All 8 billion people on earth. They're gonna crash the economy

[frozen granite]

Yall really pinned this omg 😭

[subtle matrix]

It better not be the pleb nitro too. I want the real thing

[half knot]

Think of it this way, tokkijz, silver lining, you have a few years to save up and make millions in preparation for this.

[short laurel]

dw. that's not pin. bot post msg liek that when u copy paste message links.

[frozen granite]

Me joining this server via another account 🫢

[half knot]

because they haven't really won until it goes all the way to the supreme court, which might take until 2029 lol

[copper jetty]

-bam

[tall dew]

This user has been banned.

[subtle matrix]

63k members * $10 is only $630k, you don't even need millions

[red thorn]

Give them the free nitro link gift
I see there' plenty people do that in every server to every channels

[stable escarp]

fr. the time length of the nitro was not specified so like an annual nitro should be okay right?

[frozen granite]

You won’t know it’s me

[stable escarp]

Thanks in advance for the year worth of nitro

[subtle matrix]

My dad works 4 the CIA he will hack u

[half knot]

that's usually the NSA's job nowadays

[frozen granite]

Have him hack HYBE instead of me !!!

[subtle matrix]

HYBE isn't offering free nitro idc

[frozen granite]

Touché

[knotty sparrow]

please tell him to hack hybe socmed and post free njz image

[subtle matrix]

He'll hack both to make sure NJZ wins and you gift nitro

[frozen granite]

If njz doesn’t win then we are all blaming you now

[subtle matrix]

Some members are doing that already

[frozen granite]

& we are bamming u

[knotty sparrow]

if it's really take years, i wish they're pursuing their education at same time, maybe entering law school so they could sue every person on that greedy company

[mild mist]

No but I heard they have $50 steam gift cards

[half knot]

If this isn't somehow resolved by the end of the year, they really need to make some alternate plans for their lives, education, etc. before the lawyers drain them of every cent

[craggy skiff]

could your father hack into njz account and give us pit stop audio version

[frozen granite]

Oh I will miss them …

[stiff prairie]

so anything from today?

[half knot]

they made their mark on the world and history of kpop and music, changed the entire direction of the industry, made millions, and now have chosen this, or were rather forced into this direction, so if they never come back, they'll still never be forgotten

[short laurel]

$50? u are exaggerating even decently reputed companies gives only 10-15$ coupons.

[upbeat stream]

They could consider doing business, they have the funds for it

[rain spade]

Give me lifetime nitro thanks you very much

[knotty sparrow]

maybe planning to make a virtual group like plave lol

[frozen granite]

Ok I’m going to sleep so better pray, do witchcraft, contact a shaman if yall want nitro

[half knot]

like a significant number of former idols from 2nd gen and some from 3rd gen primarily make their current incomes from real estate and business investments, not from entertainment activities.

[frozen granite]

I hope to hear good news but doubt it will be anything in our favor last time I prayed we lost

[stiff prairie]

my expectations were limited but wth does even a 10 minute long hearing mean lmao

[half knot]

and most of them never made even half of what NJZ girls have made from their times as idols.

Like Danielle looks like she already bought her own place in SKorea, that's a wise investment.

[upbeat stream]

They are multi-millionaires

[knotty sparrow]

take jaejoong as an example, got banned on korean industry for several years, but still getting rich because of investments. even he already has his own company currently

[craggy skiff]

at least we all know njz is rent free in the mind of every rarmy, hybe stan, etc
They wont forget them

[knotty sparrow]

maybe we could get CEO minji in the future, who knows

[upbeat stream]

Or the way Won Bin just retired

[subtle matrix]

I assume they have all already made investments that secured their future. Worst case scenario they take a break until 2029, which obviously sucks because this is their passion and they won't be able to do it for 4 years, but even by 2029 they'll be younger than some other idols by debut. They could absolutely still be huge even if it goes wrong in court

[upbeat stream]

Honestly they could terminate by 2027, since the penalty would be quite low by then if they remain inactive

[half knot]

yep, probably the richest idol in south korea aside from JYP himself.
and he just launched his own girl group with Hitomi in it!

youth passes by in the blink of an eye. you have to build your future right as you turn into an adult, so you can have a comfortable late 20's, 30's and 40's, and so on.

the idols that did that with their earnings are living super comfortably today

[upbeat stream]

Actually what have they even done after Q3 2024?

[craggy skiff]

Tbh I hope they could spread their time in other country in case they not work as an idol anymore
Every country have its dark side but korea is suck. What kind of culture where people consume the fake news and media play like this. the way they use information from dispatch as a valid source 💀

[half knot]

a doomed one

[short laurel]

dw. most young koreans don't trust media. their trust in media is extremely low

[hoary frost]

yea. despite media in korea against njz and media international in favour, seems like perception is opposite of that

[craggy skiff]

i know. but they do it so openly in korea and look like it becomes a normal part of life

[heady gate]

They've been doing it for decades. I'm unsure what the government has been doing.

I hope the girls can get out of K-pop and join a better label

[hollow sorrel]

I don’t think they are getting out of kpop because they are one of the biggest and most loved kpop groups

But I definitely think the hat lady is working on setting up a new company, because after everything that went down why would they join another label? for it to happen again

[craggy skiff]

They could keep working but no need to be a "kpop group"
This industry is a toxic hell

[hoary frost]

I think they are staying kpop

[hollow sorrel]

this might be fan fiction levels of cope but the best result imo is they win their lawsuit and MHJ sets up a new label with WMG / Warner Music Korea since Danielle’s sister already has her own sublabel MPLIFY with Warner Music Korea

[dark glade]

Everyone needs to be careful online currently as this is bad

[hoary frost]

I think MHJ is likely to start her own label as well

[hoary frost]

What happened?

[dark glade]

NOTICE] Information on legal response regarding artist rights infringement (4.9)

hello.
It's Adore.

We would like to inform you about legal action to protect the rights and interests of New Jeans.

Since the debut of New Jeans, we have been constantly monitoring and taking legal action against malicious online posts targeting artists. Recently, as the amount and level of malicious posts targeting artists have increased rapidly, we have additionally appointed dedicated personnel and further strengthened our response system.

We are constantly collecting evidence of serious cases of rights infringement, such as disparagement of artists' nationality, appearance, etc., dissemination of false information (fake news), invasion of privacy, malicious insults, and use of derogatory names, on numerous online sites and SNS channels, including DC Inside, Ilganbest, Natepan, FM Korea, Naver, Blind, Gaegrip, Deoku, Ppomppu, X (formerly Twitter), and YouTube, and we are promptly requesting deletion and taking legal action.

In particular, we are taking criminal action against malicious posts that are repeated or serious enough to reach the level of a crime. We have currently submitted a complaint to the Yongsan Police Station, and we plan to continue to file additional complaints in the future.

We are also responding strongly to deepfake crimes, which are becoming a major social problem. We are cooperating closely with investigative authorities regarding the production and distribution of false videos targeting artists, and the actual suspects involved have been sent to the prosecution while under arrest.

Adore will never compromise or show leniency in legal action related to protecting the rights of artists, and will actively seek and implement additional measures at the company level to ensure that the perpetrator receives appropriate punishment.
When it comes to legal action, your interest and reports are of great help. Regarding artist rights infringement, we ask that you actively report through the 'Hive Artist Rights Infringement Reporting Site ( protect.hybecorp.com )'.
We are always grateful for the love and dedication of our fans, and Adore will continue to work hard to protect the rights of artists.

thank you

[hoary frost]

Probably now trying to improve image

[dark glade]

Yeah but also they have not stated who they are targeting that’s why I’m saying just be very careful even if you are commenting on any social media platform yk

[craggy skiff]

give me a fan fic about a bunnies could time travel to the day mhj contact with bsh and say f*ck him instead of agree to cooperate

[dark glade]

Also this has just come out

https://www.soompi.com/article/1736030wpp/court-upholds-adors-injunction-request-prohibiting-newjeans-from-carrying-out-independent-activities

Idk 😭

[hoary frost]

Ah I didn't think of that

[craggy skiff]

as we expected 👍

[hoary frost]

They can appeal with a different judge now I guess

[dark glade]

Even if bunnies are slating ador I think they could still use it on individuals as the girls are still under ador that’s why I’m just saying to be careful

[heady gate]

Dispatch and 10 Asia are not on that list. Therefore, they will keep posting. 😅

[steel depot]

as if you're there for njz from the start, the people who protected them are no longer there lol fraudor is all talk and no action...

[short laurel]

they are months late in posting that notice. months.

[heady gate]

11 months

[dark glade]

Tbh I like their music, my whole thing was it’s a legal notice action and that they have already been collecting evidence? I was just saying everyone should be careful in the way they word things now, as tbh that notice was massive which is crazy to say as usually it’s one shitty sentence

[steel depot]

it's almost a year...

[short laurel]

not 11 months. og ador was there at the time and did gave out notice. they stopped after mhj was kicked

[heady gate]

true

[craggy skiff]

wow. you guy take it too serious. several months sound bad, let's see it just a year

[short laurel]

cops gonna combine the complaint made my teamtokkies,, njz and ador and ador is gonna say "look we filed it months ago"

[steel depot]

and the court will eat it up without verfying it

[subtle matrix]

Didn't expect them to rule on it immediately, that probably means the NJZ legal team thought it was a waste of time to even present more evidence

[cinder narwhal]

saw that statement from the ador lawyer earlier but didn't think it was the court decision

no other news in korea that explicitly states the court have released their decision

[mild mist]

^this. I haven't seen any release from the court (do we expect one?)

[subtle matrix]

They should publish a ruling in the next couple of days

[short laurel]

this https://m.entertain.naver.com/now/article/052/0002177801 ? it was soompi's source

[cinder narwhal]

it's the same as the rest

[short laurel]

so soompi spreading misinformation

[subtle matrix]

Yeah soompi talking out of their ass

[storm warren]

its not misinformation, they translated what ador lawyer said

and what article wrote

[subtle matrix]

It is misinformation because they are clearly stating the court made a ruling

[mild mist]

"After the interrogation, the agents of both sides quickly exited the court without giving any specific answers to the reporters' questions."
And there's nothing else apart from 'some ador dude said'

[short laurel]

ador lawyer said no change in current circumstances. it doesn't add much. court has yet to make a dicision.

[storm warren]

which is original source's fault, the mediaplay with wordplay in headlines

[subtle matrix]

Nah the original source is not reporting that

[mild mist]

The original source makes it clear that they're quoting

[short laurel]

this is the only thing being said in public. nothing much so soompi title saying "court ruled" is misinformation

[subtle matrix]

The original source says the hearing was concluded in 15 min and quotes an ador representative saying "No change in circumstances". Nothing about the court making a ruling

[storm warren]

exactly, it is vague wording

[short laurel]

and no soure for this. we expect them to appeal but no news if they appealed or not.

[storm warren]

dumb reader will assume ruling was made and did not change and thats how hybe stans are interpreting it now. soompi did seem to change title and clearly contributing to misinfo my bad

[short laurel]

infact soompi mixed up appeal and objection there

[red thorn]

So soompi article just rehashing old report

[subtle matrix]

You can't stop people from being dumb and misinterpreting what you said. You can however stop yourself from saying false things

[mild mist]

Facts are sexy

(that may not be a fact)

[subtle matrix]

Soompi has corrected the headline

[storm warren]

great

kmedia is purposely printing that headline lol tho i dont expect it to be overturned, mediaplay is genuinely annoying

[compact creek]

so basically what has already been confirmed? or am i missing something

[subtle matrix]

They are just reporting on the hearing happening pretty much

[compact creek]

ohh ok

not them clickbaiting already with the previous title 😭

https://tenor.com/view/gidle-wife-gidle-bob-gidle-wife-smoking-duck-wig-gif-15744876433000591186

[thorny knot]

hmmmm wonder why (sarcasm)

[old cypress]

Wonder if 15min hearing means the decision will come sooner

I assume it will

[copper jetty]

same. Does that mean that the result won't take as long as it did? We'll probably get the result then before 2 weeks.

[cinder narwhal]

nice i thought i was stupid

[hoary frost]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[hollow sorrel]

not necessarily, 15 minutes is only for the oral argument I assume Sejong has sent new PPTs and evidence to the court and that might take some time to review, but I do think we will get results next week

[old cypress]

true

[grizzled summit]

Hii any updates

[sinful orbit]

nothing yet

hope they pass through these times

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[hoary frost]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[grizzled summit]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[hollow sorrel]

idk about you guys but I’m soo confident about the main trial

[old cypress]

it's a nice change from the defeatism

[hollow sorrel]

especially this part:

The court stated: Trust breakdown is a somewhat abstract concept - it depends on how each person feels.
I've seen cases where idols signed contracts, never received a single settlement
Compared to those cases, this is unique.
If NewJeans were told to go back to ADOR'S training system - would they? They probably wouldn't. Isn't that the real question?
When we say trust is broken in management, it's like saying I wouldn't even join this company as a trainee without former CEO Min if I knew the truth. Isn't that the level we're talking about? Maybe I'm wrong, but I need to consider how to evaluate the trust relationship - whether it should be judged based on long-term management and production as a whole.
In most cases, trust breaks down because there's no settlement, the team doesn't succeed, and trainees can't sustain themselves.
but this is a special case

[old cypress]

It's not wise to overanalyse but it shows some degree of openness for sure

[steel depot]

[hollow sorrel]

https://x.com/honeyboo_1006/status/1909928828153282812?s=46&t=rG1o-Bkd-GgDMGG_CtSg2Q

is this new? are they really in Italy? I love that for them

honeyboo_ (@honeyboo_1006) on X

이탈리아에서 하니랑 민지를 우연히 만난 사람이 있었대😲

🔗 https://t.co/EhOFneeDec

X · Apr 9, 2025, 11:18 AM

[bronze talon]

any tldr on todays objection?
i just saw it was 12 mins

[cinder narwhal]

that's it

[bronze talon]

alr thanks

[copper current]

https://x.com/aarrttee01/status/1909859365982798321

.🩵 (@aarrttee01) on X

‘어도어 뉴진스 보호’란 판사보여주기용 언플은 계속 올라오는데,왜 이런 기사는 딱 하나?근데 내용이 중립은 아님
PR articles claiming‘ADOR is protecting NewJeans,’seemingly for the judge,keep coming out-so why is there only one piece showing the other side?Even that one isn’t neutral.

X · Apr 9, 2025, 6:42 AM

it is more like the judge told them to put out the notice as a mouth service for him to make him reject of the objection legit. This judge is corrupt and view the issue of human rights and livelihood of 5 young girls as a joke.

[copper jetty]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves and say the judge is corrupt without basis. 💀

[short laurel]

love some hate tweets on copy part. anti's putting posts that only implies mhj copied mhj. xD

[copper current]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1909857091399176223

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

judge be like: court is now in session
judge: any other issues i should know about?
sejong: judge may we-
judge: any other issues FROM ADOR that i should know about?
ador: none your honor
judge: court is dismissed. y'all wasting my fucking time. i should be out golfing now.

X · Apr 9, 2025, 6:33 AM

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1909892119634051200?t=hcLnvjbBO9NNcOz2i8ITjA&s=33

Am I missing something? Why is Hybe's Q1 that bad? J-hope was touring, LSF and illit had comebacks, seventeen had tours last year up until February 2025.

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

hybe's researcher said the negative operating profit was due to its artists who took a break in Q1 not producing any revenue.. question is, why is hybe so terrible at planning their artists EPs/concerts when this is where they anticipate to pull a majority of their revenue from?

X · Apr 9, 2025, 8:52 AM

[copper current]

corrupted to the core, worse judge and human being, this culture definitely contains bully and evil people won by bullying and stepping on others

[copper jetty]

Did they all use it up for paying media and those hotel and golf packages??

[hoary frost]

kinda weird how they have this

[hollow sorrel]

it might not even be them though tbh

[copper jetty]

Lmao the article basically saying they're waiting for BTS group for the second half of this year then they expect to have a significant increase in album and performance sales.

I guess we'll know where they'll get that 💸 to do album pushing again.

[hoary frost]

possibly

[old cypress]

there are massive expectations on bts' comeback

if they do great but not amazing, the hybe stock is gonna crash

[short laurel]

tickets were costly too for the tour

[mild mist]

"we expect the scale of our artists' global tours to expand. We've found this place called 'Europe' and it's full of gullible idiots so we see some promise there"

[short laurel]

they keep saying bts cb will increasing income but solo members have been very active. and each one did good atleast in numbers during their military time. all i c is hybe not good at managing money. 🤷‍♂️

[short laurel]

army better not go "bts paved the way in EU" kpop waas already well known in EU even be4 bts.

[mild mist]

Yes Europe knows K-pop, but K-pop doesn't know Europe. Most artists just go to London and Paris and that's it

[short laurel]

yea. sadge

[mild mist]

Although to be fair spending any more than 5 minutes in London makes me never want to leave the house again

[upbeat stream]

Hybe ignores Europe more so than other companies

[hollow sorrel]

when does BTS tour begin?

[short laurel]

as soon as their 1st cb is ready.

100% sure hybe already book venues for tour

[hoary frost]

oh bts is coming back?

Let's see...i wonder how hiatus impacted them

[hollow sorrel]

aren’t some of the members in the military until 2026?

[copper jetty]

The only ones out are Jin and Jhope. Others are still in the military but they're slated to all come out by the end of this year.

[short laurel]

wasn't suga's return in march this year ?

[hollow sorrel]

so why are a lot of armys saying 2025 is BTS year?

[hot girder]

because it is 2025 and the members... are coming out of the military at the end of 2025? lol

[copper jetty]

Nope. Not yet. Can't remember when he's going out though

[hot girder]

they're gonna do well. if HYBE stocks shake its not because of them- the whole stock market is turned upside down right now

[short laurel]

if they pushed for 2025 cb. it'd be soo rushed.

[mild mist]

Because they say that every year

[hot girder]

maybe they have planned stuff beforehand

[short laurel]

trump

[hot girder]

trump's tariffs yes

[short laurel]

planned stuff without memebrs involvement. so they are puppets even in their 12th/13th whatever year. smh

[copper jetty]

They actually planned stuff so that they release things even though they're in the military.

[short laurel]

those were planned with members. how can they plan full ot7 cb without members involvement.

[hot girder]

you and I don't know that

[copper jetty]

Of course it's solo... idk how they're gonna do that with not all of them out. But i also think that the solo members gave their consent and directives on how they'd release contents. Kind of weird if they didn't and the company just did that.

But I'm surprised with their q1 performance and also the excuse they gave that it's because of their artists that are on break on Q1. As far as I know svt was finishing up tours then, jhope started touring, lsf comeback. Those are kinda the big names in Hybe in activity at Q1.

[short laurel]

i m talking about ot7 cb specifically. after members return, they gonna need break for atleast a month (shame if they not even get that). after that they will have to start planning their cb and hybe will most likely push for tour. so alot of planning to do. releasing cb by end of 2025 would be really fast.

[copper jetty]

How'd we know they don't have anything planned already??
Anyway we don't really know what Hybe's plan is coming in at second half this year but we still have Q2 before we go into the second half of 2025.

Also does anybody know about the money transfer here from Ador to Hybe IM? Can somebody educate me on that?
I'm kinda weirded out on why the transaction happened. Why did Ador pay Hybe IM when the IP owner is Ador? Shouldn't it be the other way?

[short laurel]

people screaming cb in 2025 🤷‍♂️ . and yea froudor payed money to hybe im. no idea why. no one really knows

[waxen musk]

No news today other than wait for a result soon? Anything else I've missed?
(And yes I know it's unlikely to change and we'll have to wait for appeal. Hopefully this will be actually soon.)

[old cypress]

no news yep

[old cypress]

""game royalties""

[copper jetty]

Game royalties??? Of 4B won??

That's about 2M USD???

[old cypress]

yup newjeans featured in rhythm hive and somehow generated 2M

Anyway it's bs and hybe is just moving funds around to prop up their failed subsidiaries

[copper jetty]

From what I've read it's because of PUBG. Is it PUBG or Rhythm Hive?

[old cypress]

they said rhythm hive iirc but it's been a while

this is hybe business, they create bullshit centralized services and they make sublabels pay a high price for it

[copper jetty]

I'm surprised they can do this since they're a publicly traded company and even though those are subsidiary companies they're all independent

[old cypress]

weverse, HR, PR/marketing, gaming and whatever

[old cypress]

they can if the ""independent"" sublabels agree to do it

[copper jetty]

Anyway thanks guys for answering my questions.

[short laurel]

that doesn't make sense to me. i can say with confidence that hybe didn't bring any deals for pubg for girls

[old cypress]

their rhythm hive excuse makes no sense because newjeans being the IP, hybe im should be the one paying royalties to newjeans not the other way