NJZ Updates and Discussion

[copper jetty]

Thanks. I also found a koreaboo article about it. I know the source sucks but from what I've read apparently hybe confirmed it to hankyung. 💀

That's how people knew it was them... hybe throwing their gg under the bus Again..

[dusk pine]

Anyone with a good range on twitter to make a post form me

[mild mist]

wait, hadn't they deleted the footage at this point?

[dusk pine]

It's very important, it's about NJZ situation

[copper jetty]

This was posted last Sept. 12. I'm not really that knowledgeable on the timeline when it happened so I don't know if Hybe already deleted the footage back then.

[frozen granite]

Sending all the njz girls & all of you positive energy

[copper jetty]

I'm just double checking cause I'm checking social media now... but why are most people saying that hanni said that group's name regarding the ignore situation and that's why they got hated???

That's why I instantly looked for when Hybe themselves threw their name under the bus.

[mild mist]

On august 31st they claimed that the footage had been deleted

is this a mistranslation and they should have said 'could not prove that the manager made the statement'

[copper jetty]

I don't know if it's a mistranslation but I'll link the koreaboo article here.

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/newjeans-illit-hybe-exposed-ignore-hanni-reactions/

Also now that I think about it too.. didn't hybe say that there's no audio on the cctv footage? So how'd they know if the manager did or did not make the statement when they reviewed it?? 💀

[frozen bronze]

they changed their story 10 times already on this

[frozen granite]

People spreading misinformation & incentivizing hate once again … what’s new …

[mild mist]

that's what's annoying me

[copper jetty]

And people still think their statements are gospels and truth.

[hidden mantle]

You can see if they moved their mouth... just being sceptical

[frozen bronze]

maybe im misremembering but not in the footage you cant

[mild mist]

we haven't seen the 'ignore her' footage, remember? It got deleted

[hidden mantle]

I'll just wait for the courts to decide what happened 💔

It'll fry my brain otherwise

[mild mist]

yeah it's not like we can do anything really

[copper jetty]

You can lip read from that far away? It's literally a cctv camera lmao.

[hidden mantle]

you can zoom the video

[hidden mantle]

but I rest my case

[copper jetty]

Anyways I'm going back to sleep. It was a mistake to check on X. See you guys later.

[frozen bronze]

youre gonna lip read this ?
https://image.koreaboo.com/2025/03/vIufCv-18355609607787593316.mp4

[empty halo]

qualitys quite bad

[frozen bronze]

not to mention this is not even the same day, and even if it was its not showing the full situation hanni described

[mild mist]

I think the point of this is to show that the 'ignore her' comment could not be confirmed or denied with the footage (probably to fend off follow-up questions on why the footage was deleted)

and, of course, fan wars

[storm warren]

hybe deliberately derailed and blurred the core issue which is ostracization and flawed and biased investigation

they keep doing this to every issue, muddying the waters, derailing in a way that no one knows what is the truth anymore, getting lost in narratives, wordplays and fanwars.

[night niche]

good to hear!

[vital orbit]

so.. they can just become an international (k)pop group without promoting in Korea?

[vital orbit]

i say w/o promoting in Korea bc theres a risk of blacklist anyways

[frozen bronze]

they will definitely have to pay big fees to hybe for their entire career

[storm warren]

not different from being under hybe and hybe getting their share of money

[frozen bronze]

not different is a stretch

[storm warren]

true, it will be different as at least they will have personal and creative freedom despite still giving money to hybe in installments. anyways, any penalty fee discussion at this stage is pointless as the court will decide the rational amount

[frozen bronze]

if they have a recurring penalty fee to hybe it will just come on top of any management, practice, dorm etc costs which hybe was paying at first

[vital orbit]

https://d.ddinstagram.com/reel/DG4tP3DIbn-/?igsh=MXdoOTR5eXRiOHB1cA==

[storm warren]

hybe was not paying for it. ador was paying for their dorm, pr services, lessons from the money njz earned

[frozen bronze]

same thing

[storm warren]

ador was also paying the money to hybe for shared services

[vital orbit]

no bc ADOR and HYBE were separate at the time

[frozen bronze]

in this hypothetical it doesnt matter who njz pays it to, the point is that they have to pay it on top of management etc that they now have to get elsewhere

(im using ador and hybe interchangeably because theres no real difference ever since the contract dispute)

[prisma nova]

So did korean ppl switch up on njz like what happened

[frozen granite]

I think bc of the injunction results

[night niche]

yesn’t

knets have kind of switched up on them but they really only represent 10% of korea

[frozen bronze]

it seems like theres a few groups of people

fans that are still for independence since injunction ruling
fans that switched up after injunction ruling (2 subgroups)

1. because they think the injunction is proof that njz has been lying or is in the wrong
2. because they just want njz to continue being in the industry so they keep having the entertainment
   and then the usual antis/mediaplay which is just piling even more than usual because this is a particularly big loss for us

[night niche]

which i think is an important thing to consider when considering the opinion of koreans online, 97% of korea is on the internet but only 10% are considered “k-netizens”, so we can’t really get the full grasp of what the korean general public truly thinks based on their opinions alone

[frozen bronze]

complexcon fans said enough for me

[frozen granite]

What did they say?

[frozen bronze]

they were extremely supportive

and in all the lives there were barely any hate comments

[frozen granite]

I hate that I keep coming back to see news despite nothing happening but mediaplay which is sort of affecting me

[night niche]

only 23% of south koreans aged 18-24 trust the news

[glossy siren]

njz girls are so precious. random statement but once in a while it has to be said

[subtle matrix]

Honestly you're right I was trying to make an hypothetical and completely failed to get the point across lol. I wasn't saying MHJ's lawsuits with ador/hybe could get her back to her position as CEO, I was saying that if somehow she did return (e.g. if somehow ador had accepted NJZ's demands when they made the ultimatum) some people would say "oh so the other claims were frivolous". But it was a completely hypothetical scenario and I don't think discussing it has any value to the case as it is

[glossy siren]

the moment mhj and the staff left ador everybody posted something on ista about how happy they were to be free so NOT 1% of chance of them returning to ador...I think mhj was over the moon cause she was free of the non competition clause that was erased thanks to the way she was kicked out

once NJZ is free, the original ador team will FLY

now, in some months, in 5 years, but it will happen

[onyx hearth]

BRUU

Why do ppl keep complaining what Newjeans is doing LIKE why do we genuinely care😭

What they do is on them and how it will go into effect on what they do it’s not borthering anyone??

“They weren’t supposed to perform” “They went to BBC news to talk about it” “they got groomed/manipulated by mhj” shut up bro yall don’t know what happens behind the scenes yall act like experts or what they are supposed to do like their parent

Deadass sad how the media cares about stupid irrelevant stuff like this💔

“They are disobeying hybe/ador”so you want them to follow the rules of some toxic company then to be independent? and not break free from the Kpop industry? OKAYY

[old cypress]

yeah classic hybecels

[ashen charm]

An account with 141k subs sold out disappointed but not suprised

[glossy siren]

a good therapy is looking at the bluebook photobook, it's like a mental cleanse tactic

[night niche]

which one?

[cinder narwhal]

sorry if repost i aint backreading allat
https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1905236222936785301

Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

I-BNZ listen up cause we got some bad news from Korea.

I'm going to be brutally honest with you all.

Some Korean fan accounts that run X/Youtube/IG have started pressuring the members to return to Ador and have released statements. Reminder that these accounts DO NOT represent

X · Mar 27, 2025, 12:31 PM

[hushed violet]

Anyone know any updates in the mhj v belift situation/court?

[onyx hearth]

Unfortunately not me

[hushed violet]

I see

[onyx hearth]

But why are ppl saying newjeans name dropped illit and le serrafim and now they are receiving hate

were did the rumors come from😭

[hushed violet]

They’ve been saying that for so long. Its because njz rightfully called out source music & belift and since those fandoms are extremely parasocial they think njz name dropped them.

[onyx hearth]

Interesting also we have sua pfps lmaoo

[hushed violet]

I noticed looool

[old cypress]

they fell for fake news

[onyx hearth]

It’s sad the hate train is coming to newjeans from false info cuz they’re speaking out🫤

[hushed violet]

Yup. They’re all liars & truly evil people from the inside.

[acoustic verge]

So I just watched this video and it's filled with misinformation. They she says that public sentiment for NJ has been decreasing. Maybe it's because of people like you saying nonsense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5dAndrPCk0

[cinder narwhal]

They she says that public sentiment for NJ has been decreasing
is it or is it not true?

[night niche]

are we talking about internationally or in korea

[vital orbit]

im tired

[acoustic verge]

idk but other claims she makes in the video are factually incorrect

[night niche]

~t https://x.com/soyamoyas/status/1905158443650220267

[narrow seal]

250327 soy 🏎️🏁 (@​soyamoyas) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/soyamoyas/status/1905158443650220267
🚨BREAKING NEWS

Hybe is running low on cash, evident by poor profit earnings in 2024. It was revealed that Hybe had to divert money from ADOR to cover losses in other departments. A few of their top groups are under collateral and insiders say Hybe has missed the payment quite a

[vital orbit]

no fucking way?

this has to be a joke or sumn 💀 how do u run low on cash when ur one of the big 3

[night niche]

also jungkook just experienced identity theft so he lost ₩8.4 billion of hybe shares 💀

[cinder narwhal]

acquiring companies left and right but those companies have no immediate profits

[vital orbit]

makes u wonder how bad their payola is?
not saying newjeans didnt get any payola or tons of investment but still
also shouldnt the immediate profits come from LSFM and ILLIT? idk theyre HUGE along newjeans

idk.. poor finance department ig

[vital orbit]

only explanation, no way BSH is so stupid that he would go against the advice of his finance department to make the company run low on cash

[half knot]

still there

[cinder narwhal]

wow enjoy korea

[vital orbit]

buy many albums

steal the store's profit though, get your money back, don't give the label collector more money

[steel depot]

should've made up with mhj and respected the girls wishes now they're getting all the bad karma

[acoustic verge]

Not enough touring. That's how music artist get paid these days

[vital orbit]

leserraLIT-BTSEVENTXT tour time 🔥

[steel depot]

they have so many groups including japan with bad promotions i love those boys and they deserve more... bsh is a bad producer... bts and after that it's not effective...

[acoustic verge]

Take my money hybe

[steel depot]

anyway back to njz

[old cypress]

https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1905289683237548511

NJZ Enthusiast (@haerinthequeenn) on X

The sheer difference is uncanny BBC Chinese has now posted the video 90% of the comments support NJZ if you see a hater comment NJZ is immediately being defended by a ton of people under it

X · Mar 27, 2025, 4:03 PM

[rugged dagger]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2vrrbre/

can we get this more likes

[wary creek]

anybody know about the weverse competitor app berriz

[cinder verge]

in general how do kpop fans in korea feel towards newjeans? do they dislike them?

[vital orbit]

i think its hard to say due to the amount of bots drowning the actual honest opinions but i think its either polarising OR many are in support based off of what we saw in HK & in general during seeing them walk out of court theres usually a lot of people

i think the amount of people who actually hate NJZ is overestimated online because of the mediaplay

[old cypress]

remember when njz showed up during jennie's concert

[zenith bane]

have to ask why the "protest trucks" are only coming out now, could have been protested at any point months ago. Sus it happens now after court has given Ador a leg to stand on. noise marketing

[old cypress]

everyone knows the protest trucks came from hybe, it's part of their photo op

put fake protest trucks, get media to write articles on it and use media articles in the court to say bunnies want njz to go back to ador

they did the same with the 5 kpop associations. Hybe had them put an official statement and then included it as evidence in the injunction

[zenith bane]

let see what the invoices say...

[frozen granite]

How’s everyone holding up ?

[fleet nebula]

Feeling good 🙂 zero stress

[cinder narwhal]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1905456640666861733

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1743131239:d>

The Bizarre ‘Overheated Reporting’ Surrounding 뉴진스… How Long Has It Been Since Kim Sae-ron Left?
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/028/0002738032
By Lee Jung-kook

My trip to Hong Kong on the 23rd to cover 뉴진스’ ‘ComplexCon Hong Kong’ performance will be an unforgettable moment in my career as a journalist. Initially, it was just a reporting trip for their performance, but as the concert was coming to an end, the members declared a ‘hiatus,’ triggering chaos late at night. I sent a breaking news article via KakaoTalk while exiting the venue and rushed back to my hotel to finish writing the article in the early hours of the morning. It’s rare to experience such a tense situation while on an overseas assignment.

On my flight back to Korea, I reflected on the current crisis surrounding 뉴진스. Where did it all start, and where is it headed? The more I thought about it, the more bizarre the situation seemed. The issue itself is simple, yet it has become excessively overheated.

The conflict started a year ago, on April 22, when HYBE accused Min Hee-jin, the former CEO of ADOR, of attempting a management takeover and launched an audit. HYBE's attempt to dismiss Min was temporarily halted by the court. On May 22, the Seoul Central District Court's 50th Civil Division (Presiding Judge Kim Sang-hoon) accepted Min’s request for an injunction to block HYBE’s voting rights in her dismissal, citing insufficient evidence of misconduct.

After returning as CEO, Min proposed reconciliation at a second press conference, saying, “Let’s all think about 뉴진스’ future together.” However, ADOR’s board proceeded with her dismissal through alternative means. In response, Min condemned her removal as “one-sided” and left the company.

Up until this point, 뉴진스was not directly involved in the dispute. However, on November 13, the members went live on YouTube, demanding Min’s reinstatement and other corrective actions, thrusting the

[cinder narwhal]

the actual editorial wasn't posted by miso lol only the timeline

[short laurel]

Cuz it was nvr in big 3

[short laurel]

Jung kook from not bts

[copper current]

*xhttps://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1905466731851579736

NJZ Enthusiast (@haerinthequeenn) on X

ComplexCon continued they knew Ador couldn’t do anything to them in the Hong Kong court outside South Korea not bound by the ruling overseas Complex also attempted to invite NJZ to ComplexCon last year but negotiations failed but worked after separated from Ador (interesting 🤔 )

X · Mar 28, 2025, 3:47 AM

[tardy smelt]

that incident happened in January last year, so no

[lucid yarrow]

oh nvm then lol

[cinder narwhal]

yk you need to put a space between *x and the link to work right

[cinder verge]

what is the source of this statement

[cinder narwhal]

https://std.stheadline.com/sc/realtime/article/2060693/即時-港聞-大棋盤-NJZ禁制令風波-港法制保障演出省招牌#goog_rewarded

[cinder verge]

all it would take to disprove this is an instagram poll

imagine hanni makes a poll and is like "yo bunnies do you want us to go back to ador osrs" (imagine australian accent)

[frozen granite]

Idk if any of you would like to answer to this content creator. She has a good amount of followers & in my perspective she seems to be confused & is coming from a curious stance so I thought I’d share it https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2vkQj4F/

[old cypress]

hybecels and bots will vote

[frozen granite]

Nvm I saw another video of her & no matter what you’ll say she won’t believe it so disregard it

[jolly junco]

hmm

[simple knot]

is it (to my understanding) that fans in korea are defending newjeans while people in the us are against them? kinda confused lol

[frozen granite]

I swear this objection has to come through 🧿 📿

[vital orbit]

muslims please pray tahajjud for the objection 🤌🏻🤌🏻

[frozen granite]

I’m going to get into witchcraft

[vital orbit]

half sarcasm? not sure

does anyone have rhe source where HYBE's CEO said he wants to ruin NewJeans' brand rep?

[old cypress]

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1902986654543134829 this?

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

"I am thinking of damaging NewJeans' brand value to eliminate both NewJeans and MHJ together."
- Lee Jae-sang (CEO of HYBE)

X · Mar 21, 2025, 7:32 AM

[vital orbit]

yeahh, where did they get that quote from

[old cypress]

from the injunction ruling

[vital orbit]

alrighty tenkyu

[copper current]

when I put the space, it generated error for me before. I can test

[vital orbit]

someone should do a social experiment and open up an NJZ fan yt short channel and see how long it takes for faceless pfps with random letters as their username to start supporting ADOR

[vital orbit]

i really wanna do it with like an illit/njz fancam playing ontop with a concerning life hack video on the bottom

brainrot social experiment

[copper current]

*x https://x.com/Phamkuromi/status/1905461504771850341

Chericheri／(≧ x ≦)＼🍒🍀 (@Phamkuromi) on X

The way media has amplified Youtuber statement, making it appear as tho NJ engaged in “anti-Korean” rhetoric, fails to uphold even the most basic journalistic ethics. Even KBS joining in highlights the irrational and excessive state of entertainment journalism today

X · Mar 28, 2025, 3:26 AM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1905461504771850341 does not contain any media!

[copper current]

See, the miso bot error, i hates me when i use space

[cinder narwhal]

you only use miso bot when there are multiple pics or video

you can just put the link if it's just text or one image

[copper current]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1905482037513142438

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

tokkis, please cooperate. do not engage, comment, repost - not even on respective tokki communities. i beg you. just report the tweet.

X · Mar 28, 2025, 4:48 AM

ok, that is much better

[stiff prairie]

Dang first thing I see coming here is I need to prepare myself for direct attack on members' parents

[dusk pine]

if anyone have registered weird behavior targeting NJZ pls send me

i'm gonna make a thread explaining the smear campaign targeting them i already have evidence but more would be great

i was doing a lot of search recently and they basically have the same tactic like:
1- huge engagement pots (that feels like it shouldn't have)

2-flood of negative comments with bs (false narrative)

3- involvement of other groups/idols

I noticed it's has been happening on major social medias like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter

there's always weird negativity towards NJZ that feel forced af

[graceful crypt]

there’s another thing i’ve noticed about the bot campaign that happened with amber heard/ blake lively too

[old cypress]

yeah the wording is forced and the way they argue sound korean to me

[dusk pine]

yes and Hybe adquired TAG PR—the same pr agency that lead these campaigns against her

[graceful crypt]

every time something neutral or positive comes out about NJZ, that the bots can’t twist to villainize the girls, they flood the comments with “this is so boring” “why are we still talking about this old news” “who cares it’s a fight between rich people” “i’m so tired of talking about this” in an attempt to bury the refutation of all the bs they spread with bots

[short laurel]

reply to them "then why are u ppl engaging, ignore me if u not like it"

[dusk pine]

wrong sticker btw

[odd ridge]

oh to be in a wordl where bunnies and gllit and fearnot and my and the groups and their companies lived in peace

[dusk pine]

yh these fanwars are always fueled with false narratives and accusations and it seems so forced

there's probably something behind it

[old cypress]

no these fans just think that if njz wins their faves will suffer from it

armies are even worse since bts own hybe stock

[dusk pine]

there's a post on tik tok saying tokkies accused katseye of copying NJZ like 😭

[short laurel]

maybe in some alternate dimensions my's have so much issue with even their senior groups in SM.

[wary creek]

sounds like ego, njz want better working conditions and they make it about themselves and their fav group

[short laurel]

meanwhile army have issue with just about everyone in korea

[dusk pine]

but i genuinely think the engagement and comments of these posts are mostly fake just like on NJZ recent interviews

[short laurel]

no need to think, username gave it away that most of them are bots.

[old cypress]

there are many bots but army is a massive fandom

most little 7s are not bots

[short laurel]

not bots as in insulting people but actual bots made to spam posts with certain narrative. often payed for by companies.

[old cypress]

you can detect bots when they try so hard to push a certain narrative

[short laurel]

like the bbc interview comment section

[dusk pine]

there's a lot of bots specially on twitter

[short laurel]

in this drama, twt bots are not actual bots but hybe bootlickers.

[dusk pine]

i think a lot of them are

like if you look of a lot of their profiles you can notice how they're alwyais spamming things

sometimes not even related to their profile

[short laurel]

if the reply to fight with u they are bots" insulting way", if the not argue with you in reply they are actual bots(paid to spam).

[dusk pine]

their bios are not basic but is so generic

[dusk pine]

they're very well masked

look at this profile for example, they even interact https://x.com/fl9mee/status/1905401066805432349?t=PwjQpiRhHW3V33PKXvN51w&s=19

i went through a lot of profiles and i can confirm it

that's why the NJZ hate always look forced

that's too organized to be just dumb and dense kpop stans like i used to think

i can't post images here idk why

[dusk pine]

most likely programed actually

it's not very organized tbh

[old cypress]

it's just a company doing coordinated bot spam, either tag pr or some korean version of tag pr or some korean company(companies) that hybe paid off

there are many companies that will do that kind of online comment spam for money

[wary creek]

some office space full of people paid to comment?

[old cypress]

not even, you can do it with AI and a few computers

[wary creek]

that makes sense

[dusk pine]

there's literally people and jobs being replaced by ai

most people still assume that bots can just be dumb like before

[old cypress]

https://fixupx.com/GRITCULT/status/1898082116056793342

GC (@GRITCULT)

Chinese ai agent running 50 different instances it looks like.
︀︀
︀︀Many of them just social media bots.

💬 188 🔁 699 ❤️ 2.3K 👁️ 894.4K

▶ Play video

FixupX · Mar 7, 2025, 6:43 PM

this is an example of what these companies can do

[short laurel]

yea some are human bots (insulting) some are ai bots (paid for machine)

[dusk pine]

ofc there's people hating on njz but is most likely because of the false narratives being spread about them since last year

[short laurel]

by those fandoms yea.

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1905499648011501784

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

The Grand Chessboard | NJZ Caught in Injunction Dispute – Why Could They Still Perform at ComplexCon in Hong Kong? Legal Experts Explain
https://t.co/8fmUlfoEkJ
by 聂风

Hong Kong’s “Super March” is packed with major events, with the International Rugby Sevens making its debut at

X · Mar 28, 2025, 5:58 AM

[old cypress]

Isn't it the same for most countries? There was no way a simple injunction from a korean court would have any legal value in foreign countries

[rugged dagger]

need people to be more vocal about their support for the members

no shot we're being drowned out by the hate in the comments everywhere

[stiff prairie]

i got jump scared by ts

[stiff prairie]

slow day at the update chat today

[red thorn]

Be chile
But inside I'm in alert

[frozen granite]

I’ll say once more .. team bunnies should make a TikTok

[rugged dagger]

we need to see more posts supporting the girls and more positive comments so that bunnies can like them and get them higher up on posts

though i know it's difficult to get more likes since it's 3 fandoms against one

[stiff prairie]

Things is our fandom is a bit less like typical fandom. The streaming numbers etc we get is from normal ppl listening to music not necessarily religious streamers. Personally I became integrated into Stan culture because I felt the need to defend them once in a while. I think there are ppl who are waiting for them to come back w new music and stuff. Natural support will come thru when time asks. I hope the members themselves stay off of socials for a bit asw

[craggy skiff]

Yes. Its better that the girl take a break during this time
Since the Korean media is focusing on another drama, let's hope we can get a short peace too

[cinder narwhal]

university girls soon

[stiff prairie]

Damn u just reminded me we ain't getting any uni fancam this time thanks 👍

[cinder narwhal]

you're welcome 😊

[stiff prairie]

[hoary frost]

something new?

[hollow sorrel]

new statement from shin wooseok

google translated:

[stable escarp]

Damn a criminal lawsuit. Who would that be against? Ador?

[hollow sorrel]

or various media outlets?

[mild mist]

Perhaps they should share this evidence with the njz lawyers, seeing as this was brought up in the injunction case

[stable escarp]

Shi bout to go down. Gonna be a wild year

[rain spade]

So much drama

[tardy smelt]

i remember at the end of last year i was joking that we were in the final season of this drama. little did i know they greenlit at least 4 more seasons.

[stable escarp]

And we gonna get a directors cut (MHJ Documentary), Side Stories, and who knows what else

[lucid yarrow]

if only this was tv show kdrama we be done in 3months

[hollow sorrel]

atp the documentary is a whole series not just one film

[copper current]

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1905561506588287367

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

It has been confirmed that the bank account number of the organizer who sent a protest truck demanding the withdrawal of former member S******* three days before R***E's debut matches that of the organizer who recently sent a truck demanding NJZ's return to HYBE/ADOR.

X · Mar 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

[craggy skiff]

What are those 2 hidden words?

[tardy smelt]

name of member and name of boy group

[subtle matrix]

"Seunghan" and "RIIZE"

[wary hearth]

this whole situation rn is annoying. hybe is trying their hardest to exhaust the girls, especially with that bum ass idea of running bot accounts to leave hate comments, that is such a sad low blow.
thats also why i feel like we should be trying harder in showing love and support to the girls because the whole point of this whole hate smear campaign that they have going on is to exhaust and mentally drain them to the point of giving up and the last thing i want the girls to do is to have even the ghost of the thought that they should maybe surrender

[short laurel]

new narrative that hybe send those truck both times would be another new fanwar. ||and toxic me kinda want it to c hybe get more hate from riize stans.||

[orchid field]

i think this is how dolphiners is letting everyone know/reminding that they are fighting fraudor too

[short laurel]

a reminder than ador alienated all of it's original partners when hybe took over

[mild mist]

How on earth are people getting bank account details?

[cinder narwhal]

*x https://x.com/bborbnz/status/1905565198511129057

[harsh dove]

@bborbnz <t:1743157121:d>

[cinder narwhal]

💀

[split bramble]

dont forget that seunghan lost his career cause source music leaked his past relationship while he was trainee there

[polar owl]

Just read this, feels dumbed down and misses many of the core issues, I feel.

https://www.elle.com.au/culture/entertainment/new-jeans-court-case-explained/

[tired cairn]

I'm happy chat is a bit slower again. It's hard to read everything back if there's many new developments

Oh hey, and there's new role icons. They're lovely

[polar owl]

I have 4 days of comments to read. Holding it till the weekend.

[tired cairn]

Remember to have something nice to do after cause it can get your feelings down

[mental lynx]

i know right! i wish i had them

[storm warren]

elle is not specialized to report on such complex issues. the most valuable takes in this article are from professionals that criticize kpop system

[tired cairn]

Honestly, I'm positive the girls will figure everything out. They're way smarter than antis give them credit for. I'm not that worried

[polar owl]

Remember, if they had stayed quiet, they had everything to lose. Speaking out, they are still better placed.

[bronze talon]

https://x.com/newjeans_loop/status/1905565590351478827?t=_Q7SiQRmafDdJfHyb9_auQ&s=19

NJZ Loops 🧸🦦🐶🐱🐹 (@newjeans_loop) on X

Official Statement
We express deep regret over the spread of false information online regarding the management of Dolphin kidnappers Crew. The speculation and fabricated claims currently being made against Dolphin kidnappers Crew are completely untrue.
Additionally, we would like

X · Mar 28, 2025, 10:20 AM

[polar owl]

Essense: NewJeans, once seen as K-pop’s best shot at global growth, now face stalled momentum due to legal battles. Their situation highlights how internal conflicts could jeopardize the industry’s international future.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/mar/27/can-k-pop-overcome-crisis

So, this is going to be replaced with Aespa?

[stable escarp]

[rugged dagger]

is that the one at this airport?

https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1905127882214551872?t=OEYHBWV3qys5Hc_c-VHOPQ&s=19

NJZ Enthusiast (@haerinthequeenn) on X

Incheon Airport is making it clear they have absolutely no plans to replace the girls as their ambassadors and the banner photo will remain in place that’s how you stand on business and shut down misinformation

X · Mar 27, 2025, 5:20 AM

[tired cairn]

That's an AI generated image, or at least AI enhanced 😭

The hanguel are nonsensical

[rugged dagger]

yeah it is that airport. as you see in the post, they're not replacing the banner

of course, hybe was pushing the opposite narrative. the airport did a solid and said they wouldn't

[hot girder]

nyujinso lol

[tired cairn]

I didn't even see that

Now I'm too curious about the source so I'll revimg it after I get to my computer ig

[rugged dagger]

the original picture is nice

https://fixupx.com/newjiram/status/1770818843251716308?t=dJh9c7LKkrKaovW-EAEYsQ&s=19

^ྀིnil^ྀི (@newjiram)

NewJeans are viewed as the highest honor of celebrities in South Korea; from being appointed as the PR Ambassadors of the city of Seoul to being the faces of Incheon Airport, the largest in the country.
︀︀
︀︀not even two years into their career... this type of success is unheard of

💬 2 🔁 232 ❤️ 1.2K 👁️ 18.2K

FixupX · Mar 21, 2024, 2:24 PM

[tired cairn]

yeah, the original is nice indeed. I cannot find any reverse images of that ai style transfer online though, which is weird

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/BunnieMong0722/status/1905570020765434370

BunnieMong🐰🌙💭 (@BunnieMong0722) on X

두 개의 시선(Two Perspectives): NewJeans vs NJZ

NJZ 사건을 바라보는 한국과 해외의 극명한 온도 차이
The Stark Contrast Between Korean and Global Views on the NJZ Controversy

X · Mar 28, 2025, 10:37 AM

[rugged dagger]

tragic

[bronze talon]

company short term thoughts country ig

[polar owl]

It's created using the Ghibli filter on ChatGPT

[rugged dagger]

yeah i think they knew that. they wanted to see who originally shared it

[polar owl]

No one. I Just created it from the original image 😉 while I was checking out the filter.

[rugged dagger]

no wonder it didn't turn up

[copper current]

*x https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1905574262389506517

[harsh dove]

@PoppyKPoppie <t:1743159282:d>

[empty halo]

HYBE keeps track of all scandals ongoing in the industry. I dont see why they wouldnt aggravate other groups' controversies for their own gain

even if they didnt send the trucks i wouldnt doubt for a single moment that they paid the media to write bad articles and send bots

[polar owl]

Not everyone will know who sent the trucks. For the average Joe, the message has been conveyed that even NJs fandom is against the girls decisions.

[empty halo]

have you observed any avg Joes saying that? so far ive not come across anyone who takes the truck seriously

[polar owl]

People invested in this will of course know. Not sure of common public

[empty halo]

yeah i mean im talking about the common public only, personally i dont see many people in any fandom taking protest trucks seriously. Its usually viewed as sumn crazier fans do 💀

[polar owl]

Good to know

[short laurel]

protest trucks never achieved anything other than giving employments to truck drivers.

[empty halo]

LMFAOO SO TRUE

[subtle matrix]

As someone who wasn't super familiar with korean culture until recently ish, finding about protest trucks was one of the highlights

[empty halo]

have you ever heard of the seunghan (ex member of riize) wreaths controversy? if u didnt know about protest trucks until recently then finding out about that one would be on the next level for you 🔥

[copper current]

*x https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1905598238864146544

[harsh dove]

@cato_o_o <t:1743164999:d>

[old cypress]

It's their main way to process peer to peer payments, rather than using 3rd party services such as paypal

[mild mist]

So did someone just call the truck company and ask for the details for the hybe job?

[subtle matrix]

I assumed it was someone inside the company leaking it

I don't think giving out bank account details would be great for them

[short laurel]

https://fixupx.com/fFeHWhwZtY28779/status/1905557354885906764 this person should know how

마름모하츄핑 (@fFeHWhwZtY28779)

진짜뭐하는분이세요??

💬 3 🔁 123 ❤️ 520 👁️ 112.6K

FixupX · Mar 28, 2025, 9:47 AM

[old cypress]

No you can see they contacted the organizer, I can't read Korean but they probably asked if they could chip in

The riize screenshot is a tweet asking for donations to send the truck

[frozen granite]

Is this accurate ? This is how SK sees njz ?

[short laurel]

SK media. no idea about people

||i m kinda worried, they might send funeral wrath next||

[vocal sable]

oh its so scary when they do this

[frozen granite]

I always find those weird …

I’m getting worried for next week. I hope the lawyers pull a miracle out of something

[rain spade]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-newjeans-reaction-newjeans-praying-kpop-praying-praying-gif-26721673

[empty halo]

no........

theres a minor in the group they wouldnt do that...... right

right.... 😭

[frozen granite]

Seems like knetjzens only care about whether the law or court stands behind their stance so if njz is legally backed by the judge then this whole thing will subside

[rain spade]

That's so tucked up

[short laurel]

they are weird. sending them to company is fine but to human is fed up

[night niche]

hybe is really going crazy with the narrative what people worldwide are “against njz” because tell me why am i seeing ai comments in native african languages

[frozen granite]

What shocked me was that kmedia is against njz if anything I thought it would be half & half

[old cypress]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1838755605063802922

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

Article

HYBE PR Allegedly Downplays NewJeans’ Japan Performance and Attempts to Gaslight & Bribe Journalist with Golf Invitation: Full Disclosure on News Show

Kim Ji Hae reporter

Link to follow

X · Sep 25, 2024, 1:41 AM

[mild mist]

aah, I understand
thanks

[frozen granite]

That makes sense …

Also, why is dolphiners taking legal action? Is it something else or the same thing as before ?

[cinder narwhal]

if anything kmedia being against should be the least surprising

[night niche]

~t https://x.com/bammi057/status/1905276760997965891

[narrow seal]

250327 yb🐰 (@​bammi057) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/bammi057/status/1905276760997965891
Came across this live and she’s not holding back, I LOVE HER😭

[night niche]

i recommend yall follow this lady on tiktok, there’s a lot of black tokkis on tiktok speaking a lot of truth about NJZ that should be getting more attention

~t https://x.com/phamiiyy/status/1905455131975434264

[narrow seal]

250328 gabii🏁 (@​phamiiyy) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/phamiiyy/status/1905455131975434264
LOUDERRR

[copper current]

*x https://x.com/luenacore/status/1905613690101268738

[harsh dove]

@luenacore <t:1743168682:d>

[night niche]

~t https://x.com/femnielle/status/1905648350525096442

[narrow seal]

250328 ⚢ (@​femnielle) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/femnielle/status/1905648350525096442
just woke up what do you mean hybe is begging ao3 writers to make fics in order to persuade njz to go back to ador…

[night niche]

idk if this is true but if it is this stuff is actually getting ridiculous

[grizzled summit]

Ooo 6 days leftt

[hot girder]

oh she's doing God's work

[copper current]

*x https://x.com/yuijeans/status/1905645542933446910

Yui (@yuijeans) on X

"The media serve as a system of propaganda to maintain a world view and social structure that empower the wealthy and privileged." - Noam Chomsky, from his book Media Control: The Spectacular Achievements of Propaganda.

X · Mar 28, 2025, 3:37 PM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1905645542933446910 does not contain any media!

[copper current]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1905598238864146544

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

Translated QRT post from K-bunny.

X · Mar 28, 2025, 12:29 PM

[wary hearth]

such a fucked up thing to do but what would they send them for in particular

because they wanted them out of hybe but then told them theyre stupid for leaving due to court/legality status and to go back but theyd be angry if they go back

what a confusing bunch.

[hollow sorrel]

~t https://x.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1905632401621221605

[narrow seal]

250328 Sheepymcsheep (@​sheepymcsheepy) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1905632401621221605
The judge is severely downplaying the capabilities of both MHJ and Shin Woo-seok—treating them as trivial parts that can easily be replaced. ETA's MV won 4 awards, while MHJ literally built the roadmap for NJZ's success.

https://www.mk.co.kr/en/entertain/11021946

AD = MHJ
AJ = Dolhpiners

[hollow sorrel]

this, I really hope Sejong explains it really detailed during the main lawsuit that these are not just collaborators that can be replaced they are a strong part of building NewJeans' brand identity

[old cypress]

yeah the injunction was a mess, the judge kept downplaying claims or dismissing claims on technicalities. But ultimately I think that sejong didn't make the best job communicating the claims to the judge. Maybe the short timeframe they had (30 minutes to present their case) didn't help them

[hot girder]

30 minutes??? you can't do shit with that amount of time

[hollow sorrel]

yeah so many people are saying sejong didn't do their jobs properly and I agree they were lacking in some aspects but like there is no other way? they only had a short time to orally present their argument and after that they could only rely on ppts
let's hope they are locked in for the main lawsuit

[old cypress]

it's an injunction hearing so everything is shorter and simpler compared to the main lawsuit

[bronze talon]

idt you got much time to present every detail and how it snowballed down to every event in an injunction
it is what it is

[old cypress]

that's why the appeal has a chance to work positively for njz, different judge and sejong will likely present a better case

[bronze talon]

yep i really hope they see through this and inspect this detailed this time

[vale grove]

I wanna create a detailed video explaining everything going on

[copper current]

Do it, push it to all platform, bunnies will endorse the videos

[vale grove]

I think I would need some help

[frozen granite]

Is this new ? What’s this for or where is it from?

[old cypress]

this is from the injunction ruling

[frozen granite]

Oh ok, thanks … sigh you guys feeling good?

[craggy skiff]

If you post it, take care of the comment section or just lock it.
Getting tired of hate comment every njs post

[vale grove]

:(yeah that’s what I’m planning on doing

[short laurel]

Just saw polo_tokki on ig. Their njz art is amazing

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/yuijeans/status/1905675305744040446

[narrow seal]

250328 Yui (@​yuijeans) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/yuijeans/status/1905675305744040446
(💡Highlight) NJZ achieved a record-breaking 22,911 turnout on ComplexCon's final day
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong-kong-economy/article/3304078/complexcon-hong-kong-wraps-3-day-event-35000-turnout-rakes-hk875-million

[night niche]

theyre not even trying

[vital orbit]

well ur in the world where the company thats being the offender is losing large amounts of money so

[vital orbit]

cant say we have it worse or better

[vital orbit]

HELP???

[night niche]

it’s actually ridiculous why am i seeing njz hate comments in twi and igbo 💔

[night niche]

theyre not eveb trying anymore

[old cypress]

it's prob just ai picking a random language and posting the translated comment

[wary creek]

oof not looking good if judge is making decisions based on the minimal. Sure njz could still function but they were mistreated

[night niche]

showing this to fellow black people and they’re finding this ridiculous

i wonder why they’re doing west african languages though

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/aidorudaisuki/status/1905681599599181912

[narrow seal]

250328 リサ (@​aidorudaisuki) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/aidorudaisuki/status/1905681599599181912
Ugh… this leaked document (Weekly Industry Report). I saw K-Bunnies sharing a page where HYBE literally analyzed fanfiction.

Honestly, I think this is the exact kind of strategy HYBE/ADOR is using to divide the fandom.

[copper current]

https://x.com/enjeyzee/status/1905626629701005748

kean🏎️🏁 (@enjeyzee) on X

This account has been debunking misinformations and is posting facts about NJZ; please boost their content!

https://t.co/AB18x1LWuM

X · Mar 28, 2025, 2:22 PM

[night niche]

~t https://x.com/pradarlings/status/1905557000710492347

[narrow seal]

250328 ‎͏͏͏ (@​pradarlings) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pradarlings/status/1905557000710492347
too lazy to fully translate the full message but they’re essentially saying that the njz ship authors’ “beautiful writings” can help convince njz to “come to their senses”. they’re reaching out via postype with the same message template.

[frozen bronze]

is there actually proof it was ador/hybe though ?

[night niche]

yeah but im having a hard time getting a proper translation, but it is hybe 💀

they also lurk for fandoms ships of their boy groups as well

[frozen bronze]

because if there is no proof this tiktok user is not any better than hybe stans jumping the gun on "facts"

[orchid field]

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1905561506588287367

minotaurkard is agreeing as well

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

It has been confirmed that the bank account number of the organizer who sent a protest truck demanding the withdrawal of former member S******* three days before R***E's debut matches that of the organizer who recently sent a truck demanding NJZ's return to HYBE/ADOR.

X · Mar 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

[frozen bronze]

tweet doesnt load in browser for me, is it deleted ?

[mental lynx]

no browser is just idk not working for me aswell but its there

[mild mist]

apparently twitter is having troubles just now

[old cypress]

I think that all we can say is the same person/group is behind the protest trucks. Considering the motives, the likely and obvious culprit is hybe but there's no actual proof of that yet

[acoustic verge]

translation for what?

[night niche]

the tweets of the screenshots showing that hybe is sending a bunch of messages to fanfic writers

[acoustic verge]

https://x.com/pradarlings/status/1905557000710492347
"We have suffered a bitter defeat.

For the honor and future of NewJeans, whom both you and I dearly love, I hope you could write a post urging them to return, even if just a little. As a devoted reader of your writing, I truly believe that your words will be of great help.

Please help guide the hearts of many Bunnies so that they can eventually reach the hearts of NewJeans. There’s a saying: “Many drops make a river.” With your writing skills, perhaps you can help regain the hearts of both the Bunnies who are critical and, eventually, NewJeans themselves. We must protect NewJeans. I earnestly ask for your help.

March 28, 2025, 13:35"

[night niche]

HELP

THIS IS HILARIOUS

[atomic echo]

not KR bunnies doing the T1 truck strat now

or at least them making it seem that way, could just be an ador/hybe strat

[vital orbit]

ADOR Tzu, The Art of Mediaplay

[shrewd badger]

T1 strat 💀

[hoary frost]

LMAO WTF IS THIS 😭

[graceful crypt]

this cannot be real i’m losing it omg…. did they actually send this to fanfiction writers???

[night niche]

unfortunately they did 💀

[copper current]

https://x.com/luenacore/status/1905712817933840532

luna ୨ৎ (@luenacore) on X

I'm not a professional analyst, nor am i fully equipped with the proper tools for a comprehensive examination. However, i conducted a very basic analysis on NJZ's BBC youtube video's comment section. Out of 27,000 comments, only 14,000 were processed. Within this subset, 53%

X · Mar 28, 2025, 8:05 PM

[vital orbit]

*x https://x.com/kara_njz/status/1905129322320437576

[harsh dove]

@kara_njz <t:1743053200:d>

a higher quality version of Pit Stop has been updated!

download here:
🔗 https://drive.google.com/file/d/18Ys2LGONZ2PlbGdotqiO6CE526LiFhpy/view?usp=drive_link

[vital orbit]

*x https://x.com/pkzktty/status/1905650584285303044

oh oops i should include the caption

*x -c https://x.com/pkzktty/status/1905650584285303044

[harsh dove]

@pkzktty <t:1743177479:d>

What ador wants from those ao3 writers:

[vital orbit]

*x -c https://x.com/DropKpopNet/status/1905333463420448881

[harsh dove]

@DropKpopNet <t:1743101871:d>

3 years ago, min hee jin predicted the future.

[vital orbit]

edited but its hilarious
they made it into LSFM tho! W 🔥

[drowsy crypt]

We’ll see about that

(Btw, i did screenshot from Twitter lol)

[dusk pine]

y'all will not believe on that tweet, we've been fooled over a year https://x.com/fl9mee/status/1905729581971280048?t=CQCGLL5KQv7rODtCny7G3A&s=19

clickbait

[copper current]

https://x.com/leetaehyun__/status/1905709241685664180

🇸🇴🇩🇯phamhoney🏎️🏁 (@leetaehyun__) on X

please support this wonderful creator bunnies. her take on the ador/njz discourse is one that has been missing for far too long. she actually faced what njz are going through. we need to boost her account💞

X · Mar 28, 2025, 7:51 PM

[night niche]

i love this lady’s perspective

~t https://x.com/vminnsm/status/1905761094200672678

[narrow seal]

250328 bear 🏁 (@​vminnsm) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/vminnsm/status/1905761094200672678
“what do you want them to really go through for them to speak up? it’s like saying someone shouldnt speak up until something bad happens to them.”
I LOVE SMART AND EMPATHETIC PEOPLE!!!

[hot girder]

She explains everything so clearly too, doesn't stutter not even once

[night niche]

now that there’s so many black people supporting njz especially because of their recent performance, #those fandoms are getting more blatantly racist and it’s sad

[eternal ibex]

supporting njz leading to racism is absolutely crazy 💔 thats just disappointing

[hot girder]

they were always racist but now they don't bother hiding it

free blocklist actually

hanni was getting dragged by multiple fandoms just for being non-korean but everyone turned a blind eye to it. like I'm not even surprised anymore

[bronze talon]

https://x.com/Dangmil_kitty/status/1905689373204730083

✊Power to the Bunnies✊ (@Dangmil_kitty) on X

@yuijeans I started working on this flowchart of all the connections gathered from news articles in Korean and American publications. I also have all the links to the articles (it's a lot 😭). It's abt 1/2. There are many connections and the guys running these companies are all criminals

X · Mar 28, 2025, 6:32 PM

https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVLG2Kqvk=/

[jolly junco]

damn.... this is even more complicated than subway map

[bronze talon]

💀

[night niche]

right and now they’re shifting to just being racist to black people ever since the complexcon performance and the hanni racism has gotten even worse

[jolly junco]

huh? i dont understand, whats complexcon got to do with this?

[bronze talon]

bc 4 covers were songs from black artists

not sure if thats the case tho
correct me if im wrong

[jolly junco]

bruh 💀 music is music, whats this got to do with their skin color
wtf were they thinking

[night niche]

njz shows appreciation to black artists on the regular which almost no kpop groups do a lot and people hate that, during their complexcon 4/5 of the solos were songs from black artists and they’ve received a lot of praise from black people in the west for this, because of this antis are being racist toward the black people showing support towards them

[midnight yarrow]

How silly. What culture and music genres do people think K-Pop borrowed and continues to borrow heavily from? Absolute joke

[jolly junco]

this antis really need to cut off internet from their life and go out to make some friends

[night niche]

exactly this, njz is the only kpop group i’ve seen that truly appreciates black culture and they advently show how their music is inspired by it. that’s why so many black people who aren’t even into kpop respect and like njz regardless of what’s been going on

on top of this a lot of black artists in the past have gone through similar things njz is currently through so that’s why so many of us are able to see past the media play, we’ve seen it all before

[shut kelp]

THISSSSSS

am jamaican/filipino and i've been a fan since i heard attention, i put all my black friends onto njz and they say the exact same thing how njz is one of the only kpop groups to appropriately appreciate black culture in their music, fashion etc.

[copper current]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1905766037339152812

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

Dazed article

The five have doubled down on their fight for artistic freedom. 
“This fight is necessary,” group member Haerin told the BBC. “Although it will be extremely difficult and arduous, we will keep doing what we have done so far and speak up.”

https://t.co/z3fhVbBb5o

X · Mar 28, 2025, 11:36 PM

[bronze talon]

my girl
well said and actually needed
when is there ever gonna be a change in the industry when noone is going to speak up

[night niche]

exactly, all of recent popular/viral tiktok’s on njz showing them in a positive light despite all of the hate have almost all been from black people as well, one thing about us if that you show respect to our community we reciprocate it back and that’s exactly what’s happening

njz is definitely invited to the cookout 🫶🏾

[bronze talon]

i hope the 5 spend the current time on either healing/resting, spending time tgt or with family and friends (dani already confirmed with fam), focusing on preparing for the court stuff or even on new music and dances so they can go back to what they love even faster once everything is settled and behind them

[night niche]

whatever happens in the future i just hope the 5 of them along with their families are thriving, proud and truly happy

[bronze talon]

yup

[vital orbit]

i was about to embed this lol

*x -c https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1905766037339152812?t=UHdP5GO2ZAHMAl1ZP6b82A&s=19

[harsh dove]

@cato_o_o <t:1743205005:d>

Dazed article

The five have doubled down on their fight for artistic freedom. 
“This fight is necessary,” group member Haerin told the BBC. “Although it will be extremely difficult and arduous, we will keep doing what we have done so far and speak up.”

https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/66473/1/newjeans-dedicated-to-necessary-fight-against-k-pop-megalabel-hybe

[vital orbit]

@copper current this is how you do it ^ it was a little unnecessary here since its one image but u were having trouble with it earlier

('-c' adds the caption of the post, you can remove it if you want)

[hot girder]

https://x.com/vminnsm/status/1905805771507482899?t=FsdvpGp_6bADoPBc8CdeLg&s=19

bear 🏁 (@vminnsm) on X

they’re really harassing that lady that spoke positively about njz you can’t make this up😭😭 i mean FLOODING her comments but she dgaf

X · Mar 29, 2025, 2:14 AM

https://vxtwitter.com/vminnsm/status/1905808911552192950?t=LSHz90FmifhHNfjE-kGUcw&s=19

these two are amazing I hope they keep it up lol

[vital orbit]

the IT girl & IT boy of TokkiTok

[night niche]

~t https://x.com/jeansposse/status/1905800292559667309

[narrow seal]

250329 ً (@​jeansposse) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/jeansposse/status/1905800292559667309
https://t.co/tEJ1WtHSSO

[vital orbit]

*x -c https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1905130825890353414?t=i7nj-P_rDUYPyE0reEavVA&s=19

[harsh dove]

@haerinthequeenn <t:1743053559:d>

This account joined 17 minutes ago and simultaneously made a hate comment instantly how does that work?

[red thorn]

Passionate

[night niche]

bots bots and more bots, i think they’ve made 13k bot comments on that bbc video

[vital orbit]

NJZ hater from the womb

[jolly junco]

how to apply for this work? seems like easy money

[vital orbit]

*x https://x.com/dieponydie/status/1905073681790808347?t=gDaviAIMxeRgr7oLHsApxg&s=19

[harsh dove]

@dieponydie <t:1743039934:d>

[vital orbit]

"Dispatch reveals shocking information about OldJeans: A Scrapped group in HYBE's basement"

[jolly junco]

this image will haunt me with nightmare

[cinder narwhal]

who are the big kr accounts who are pro-return to ador?

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1905818684809199975

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

Translated QRT post.

Agree and why many K-media outlets are disgusting animals and the NJZ hate narrative in many ways is manufactured, manipulated astroturfing.

There are very few ethical media outlets in Korea with journalistic integrity and that is harmful to korean society.

X · Mar 29, 2025, 3:05 AM

[jolly junco]

they said it was modani_st

idk if its true tho

they are blind and deaf if its really true, dani was the one who strongly disagree with going back to ador

is it possible if modani_st get approached by hybe team? Did she get paid to do this? because i know 1 of famous indonesian bunnies got approached before and wanted to use her to turned the narratives back to HYBE favor (unfortunately for HYBE, this bunnies are super rich girl so they cant get to her with money)

[red thorn]

Whew for real
Did she exposed it on her social media

[frozen granite]

What’s going on ? I feel so out of the loop

[jolly junco]

the indonesian bunnies? yeah last year, she shared the screenshot of the person who DM her

iirc the person was from k-media, asking permission for something from her

that bunnies immediately rejected her offer

most of indonesian bunnies knows this incident, because she's quite famous in indonesian bunnies circle

[graceful crypt]

did someone from k-media message her and offer to pay her to start posting more pro-hybe things? sorry if i’m misunderstanding

[jolly junco]

wait a moment, i'm trying to find her post that day
the person who approached her did not specify right away her intention

[red thorn]

Must pretense under good will yada yada first

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1905636890340196670 does not contain any media!

[vital orbit]

https://x.com/FAGDYKIEZ/status/1905636890340196670?t=WshqGk23UlRUD_BUmVZfAw&s=19

hamo (@FAGDYKIEZ) on X

@Gadux4 Public is very easy to manipulate. Esp on tiktok. They're sheep, they'll go wherever the general consensus is. Same thing happened with Amb*r H*ard and then when Depp stopped paying for the PR bots, people snapped out of it and played innocent.

X · Mar 28, 2025, 3:03 PM

[grizzled summit]

hiii any updates

[craggy skiff]

Maybe she isn't a bunnies from the start

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/NekoNekoo1212/status/1905819595916660947

NEKO🏁 (@NekoNekoo1212) on X

어도어 채용공고 마케팅? 지금?🤔

X · Mar 29, 2025, 3:09 AM

ador job opening. time to apply and climb up the ranks

[red thorn]

Goddam
Collect all dm contact from bunnies that dm'd

[jolly junco]

seems like she deleted the screenshot, i remember her shared that person DM her and asking for something related to newjeans

[vital orbit]

HELP THIS IS SO FUNNY

[copper current]

*x -c https://x.com/soulsearchstina/status/1905366522056306909

[harsh dove]

@soulsearchstina <t:1743109753:d>

☽ NJZ prediction ☾

༺♡༻

Comic chaos is currently at an all time high...
It doesn't particularly surprise me that the NJZ girls are dealing with intense legal battles, given that in their previous group chart (NewJeans) Aries ♈ is their 12H which is the house ruling over hidden enemies, power struggles & all kinds of secrets that are not yet ready to face daylight.
It might sound a bit melodramatic but it feels eerily true here:
What we know is a drop.
What we don't know is an ocean...
I know you're all genuinely grateful for my work but I do feel like I should apologise as this will be long & detailed as I have quite a few transits to cover. 2025 is astrologically one of the busiest we've had for a while & I want to do right by you by covering the upcoming eclipses as well.
In the rebrand chart, the Aries ♈ ruled house is their 2H which rules over their talents as a group & their sources of income.
The reason as to why all of this is so incredibly creepy is because the legal issues got more severe during the current Aries ♈ Mercury AND Venus retrograde which take away all kinds of financial harmony, much less when it comes to any kind of peaceful communication at all.
They smell the possible success & immediately want to drain it all.
This Saturday, the 29th of March, we're experiencing an Aries ♈ New Moon Solar Eclipse that will highlight the hidden ♈ house so it wouldn't surprise me if the group made some sort of shocking announcement.
Aries is also Mars ruled which is causing all these aggravated reactions & anger issues in communication in general right now.
Everything feels intense, because it is.
The current Cancer ♋ Mars transit isn't exactly helping with the emotionally charged actions either.
Long story short, Ador's pettiness makes an abundance of sense.
Speaking of abundance, I looked into the profection year of NewJeans as a group (older chart) to see what is the planetary ruler for t

[stiff prairie]

anything new folks?

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1905858454704791824 does not contain any media!

[copper current]

*x -c https://x.com/johnnyhundreds/status/1905785794071269852

[harsh dove]

@johnnyhundreds <t:1743209715:d>

I never thought about the NJZ situation in this way. I love this take so much. Why sit around and wait for something worse to happen?

#NJZ #NJZ_NEVER_DIE

[jolly junco]

another crickets yl is still out of work

[stiff prairie]

day 27349832 of waiting yl to post an insta story withing 30 secs

court dates are the only anticipating things these days huh

[copper jetty]

He ate with this opinion. Many people, especially K-pop fans, tend to support artists only when the abuse is severe. This overlooks the fact that abuse doesn't happen all at once; it starts small and gradually intensifies.
It usually begins with seemingly minor actions—hurtful comments, small slights, or unfair treatment—that overtime snowball into something much worse. So why do people wait until things have gotten out of hand before they start speaking up?

This delayed response is also one of the main reasons why many artists feel too scared or intimidated to speak out. When the abuse starts to escalate, the pressure to remain silent only grows. Artists may fear backlash, ridicule, or even losing their fans, so they hesitate to address the issue early on, allowing the mistreatment to continue unchecked. The lack of immediate support for the smaller, more subtle signs of abuse contributes to this silence, leaving these individuals to suffer in the shadows until the situation becomes undeniable.

[cinder narwhal]

chat gpt summary minus the cosmic mumbo jumbo

NewJeans is in the midst of a significant transformation, likely leading to their rebranding as NJZ. The ongoing conflicts with management and legal issues seem to be pushing them toward greater independence, with their creative and professional freedom at the core of the battle. Despite the tension, their immense popularity ensures that this situation won’t be drawn out unnecessarily.

By September, major developments are expected, including possible legal resolutions, contract changes, and a public announcement solidifying their new identity. This shift marks not only a break from their previous management but also a strategic move to establish a new artistic and professional path.

The members are stepping into a more empowered phase, learning to assert themselves and take control of their careers. The industry’s traditional power structures are being challenged, and their struggle is reflective of a larger movement toward artistic independence in the entertainment world.

While the transition won’t be without difficulties, the group’s resilience and growing awareness of their potential make it clear that they’re ready to fight for their future. NJZ is not just a rebrand—it represents their refusal to be controlled and their commitment to shaping their own destiny.

[stiff prairie]

chat gpt the top G

[jolly junco]

September is still a long way to go 💔

[stiff prairie]

from here it's long way to go but when we get to sept it will be like the months passed by like nothing

[jolly junco]

Oh well this gives me time to completed all their album before they drop NJ1

[stiff prairie]

and probably we'll get another date 2 months after asw

[copper jetty]

Does this mean pitstop isn't gonna be until September

[jolly junco]

[copper jetty]

I'm getting addicted to the stage performance what more with the studio version??

Eyes on me...

[stiff prairie]

will bana and co keep working on nj1 if they're not sure they can release it within 2 yrs or even release it all?

[copper jetty]

[jolly junco]

Breathe…..

[copper jetty]

Did we get the official lyrics of the song already??? I still don't know if it's before I speak or before I speed. 💀

[jolly junco]

They have to 🥹 please… i love pit stop so i’m pretty sure i’m gonna love the rest of NJ1 album

[stiff prairie]

it's before i spit

[red thorn]

Breath before I sleep

[copper jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-take-drink-laugh-funny-thats-gif-11859512

[jolly junco]

Genius, soumu should hire cake as their lyricist

[red thorn]

Spit spot

[stiff prairie]

drop 5 full length albums when lawsuit bs is over pls

[copper jetty]

I love pit stop too.. I don't think i can wait...

I love the vocal layers I'm hearing especially in the chorus already... please.

[copper jetty]

They should give us an album with 22 songs in it. NJ1 deluxe plus the NJZ comeback

Then release the NJWMX 2.0 too

[jolly junco]

This!!! omg i love 250 remix

[stiff prairie]

carti's latest album has 30 songs in it. we can do better trust

[shut kelp]

okay so i just re-listened to njz songs from debut to now and i never really took the time to understand the meaning to the songs except for ditto but man some of the lyrics in the songs kinda connect to what we know was happening at hybe during there time there right? or should i put the fries in the bag 😂

[copper jetty]

Drop the lyrics

Analyze time!!!

[shut kelp]

i mean attention and hurt was there first songs right?

[red thorn]

How Sweet is their freedom song

[copper jetty]

Attention hype boy cookie hurt on the Debut album

[shut kelp]

they almost didnt debut right so the song attention really got everybody's attention 😂

[stiff prairie]

i think most of the songs is about teenage love stuff?

[short laurel]

It was the perfect debut song

[stiff prairie]

how sweet and pit stop is probably the only different ones

[shut kelp]

ig but attention could also be both

[short laurel]

Day be4 yesterday i saw a tiktok showing a gg with appropriate fits n captain was " gg1, gg2(i forgot name) n neajeans stylish learn from this"
The fits of gg in clip was inspired by nj 😂. Comment section was on war.

[shut kelp]

idk i wish we had someone who can dissect lyrics lol

[stiff prairie]

attention is love stuff fs. they even did a debate on it in jeans zine ep

[frozen granite]

Is something important happening or ?

[shut kelp]

ya i remember but idk its just how MHJ pick the perfect songs to release because njz really have no skips which is insane

[stiff prairie]

nah nothing important before april 3

[shut kelp]

no im just chatting lol

[stiff prairie]

ppl saying newjeans dress up is inappropriate? what're they smoking

[shut kelp]

some of their lyrics could def be double entendres we dont know lol

[jolly junco]

antis want the girls to dress up like ninja

[wary creek]

it's crazy how i hear newjeans music constantly at korean supermarkets, bakeries, restaurants

[stiff prairie]

i thought ppl would be more on the other side saying they just wear baggy clothes n stuff since how sweet era. not enuf effort from stylist

[stiff prairie]

u could hear more if things didn't turn up like this and we got nj1

[copper jetty]

Breathe

Before I speak

Eyes on me...

[stiff prairie]

this is our life now lol. wake up. rant and vent. move on w the rest of the day. repeat

[wary creek]

the girls must be chanting that to themselves everyday

[short laurel]

an praising the group whose dressing is inspired by njz xD

[short laurel]

those were k-tokkies.

[copper jetty]

K tokkis were saying this??

I mean actually love their styling starting from how sweet era to supernatural. 🔥🔥

[stiff prairie]

tiktok comments are cancer. i only watch the content give it a like and scroll. cause everytime i open comments of a njz vid i know there will be smth that'll give me anger issues

[copper jetty]

My fyp on tiktok is so bad... I never go there now. I need a bazooka to blow that app.

[short laurel]

that tiktok comment section actually had people arguing each other cuz even anti's agree that girls dressing are always approripate.

[short laurel]

they poped up during that stage performance where girls wore casual fits from bubblegum mv. the one where hanni wore yellow tee

[stiff prairie]

antis sometimes throw out curve balls for us lol. but the main takeaway i get from all these posts is that anything njz drama will make your tweet or tiktok hit. ppl just collect ez engagement by mentioning njz on anything these days

[short laurel]

yup.

[copper jetty]

Also they keep saying they're tired with all the NJZ drama...

Even when they're not part of the fandom and they can just choose to keep scrolling and not engage

If they're tired imagine what the girls or even us fans go through.

Anyway I'll chat you guys later. I'm going to stream pit stop complexcon version now.

I so badly want that studio version asap.

-asap

[tall dew]

https://imgur.com/a/pnn4Zkn

[short laurel]

yea i heard it dropped. can u sned me link pls

[jolly junco]

WHERE??? they release the official complexcon video?

[copper jetty]

No.. they posted a video where the audio is somewhat good.

[short laurel]

oh so it's not out yet. 😦

[copper jetty]

*x https://x.com/dittomatik/status/1903877013431275884?t=FGXc7JKsyrqO0tQh0gCCjA&s=19

revy (@dittomatik) on X

NJZ - 'PIT STOP' (even better quality)

ctto.

X · Mar 23, 2025, 6:30 PM

[jolly junco]

[copper jetty]

Sadly no. I wish..

[harsh dove]

TimeoutError: ```

[jolly junco]

miso is having a beef with pitstop

[hollow sorrel]

just remembering…. hopefully it gets on the first NJZ EP or something

[split shoal]

okay, yea this video on tiktok definitely has lots of questions, plus it seems that she copied and pasted it on here from someone on X just to gain views and likes for attention ofc

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2cLTGSS/

because there’s lots of debates going on in the comments section

[split shoal]

oh and this video too

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2cLsdN9/

[prime spear]

although ik already that njz never hated on either groups at all does anybody have any idea why everyone keeps saying that just bc they name dropped lesserallit it equates to them wishing the worst for the girls? What were the things njz said mentioning the groups that made them think this

[copper jetty]

Nothing actually... whatever they said that name dropped was said ON COURT. not on X or the media. The media just spilled whatever the court case has to the masses and then fandom war started.

[ashen charm]

It was mhj that dropped lesserafim and how they debuted first thsts why the other groups were mentioned

[copper jetty]

This is what Hanni said on the livestream... she never name dropped any group...

Also lmao take note this is what Hybe released to the media the next day.

So if there's anyone to blame it's actually Hybe 💀

[rancid falcon]

so she never claimed they had never greeted her ever

[wary creek]

i think it's because mhj said that when creating illit, they were basing it off newjeans concept?

or like implying they were creating illit to compete with newjeans

[rancid falcon]

just that they originally greeted her normally, then were told not to

that's crazy. people act as if the CCTV footage proves she straight up lied.

[split shoal]

it was from the wrong fucking date, and not the date that the illit’s manager told illit to ignore her, plus she and illit greeted 90 degree bow

[prime spear]

Ty for the clarification

[ashen charm]

its the narative rather the truth it was the wrong date but peole saw hanni lied and ran with it

[copper jetty]

She said that they initially greeted each other but then she heard what the manager said.

Also the issue isn't really the group ignoring her. She understands the power dynamics between idols and manager... the issue is the alienation that they endured with the staff (not the idols groups) and also how hybe handled the investigation themselves.

[split shoal]

so clearly hybe doing shady shit, and not protecting their artists but enabling media play, slandering, harassment and bullying to njz

[rancid falcon]

oh I wasn't thinking it was illit's fault either way. I knew it was about the staff saying that

[ashen charm]

newjeans was always left out of weverse con and never got any show out side of asia

[split shoal]

so there needs to be an investigation on illit’s manager, and everyone in the fucking building held accountable and njz getting the last laugh

[copper jetty]

I think it's still questionable and laughable, and they haven't answered this yet, why belift (another independent company) would have another company's private document. 💀

[wary creek]

honestly i might be overthinking it but i think the cctv footage and hanni lying stuff is just a distraction

[copper jetty]

Like if they're separate entities then why the hell would that private document just appear at another company

[cinder narwhal]

wowowowowoow ||2023||

[ashen charm]

its working like 45 percent of so call fans have already turned on njz

[subtle matrix]

Unfortunately the kpop "fans" who participate in these fanwars aren't interested in differentiating between a group, their company and their fans.

"X group fans/creative director/manager/company/whatever talked shit about my favourite group or anything related to it? I'll talk shit about their group"

It's a vicious cycle where these toxic parts of the fandom think they're achieving anything by responding to online hate with more online hate, which doesn't help their group at all, it just makes the whole environment more toxic

[wary creek]

i think the greeting stuff is just a distraction because if even proven, it's just one manager and not hybe. The spotlight shouldn't be on the one manager who said not to greet hanni, the discussion should be on hybe overall

[subtle matrix]

And not to put on my tinfoil hat but it seems incredibly likely to me that, besides the bot comments that have been discussed here, several of these companies are funding content farms and other online players that drive up all these controversies

[wary creek]

this whole controversy about hanni's honesty was a good move, it really muddles up the conversations and breeds hate

[copper jetty]

Who would though? The only one they said protecting them got kicked out. Hybe's HR (who's supposed to handle the investigation is Ador's CEO and said that they found nothing) in fact they had eff*ng Belift handle the investigation.

Its like Hybe saying "Hybe please investigate this" and they found nothing wrong. 💀

[ashen charm]

my comment section on my fyp is all but hate its insane im use to some hate but its like as soon as i post

[short laurel]

this is only with hybe groups fandom. look at any other company. they won't tolerate hate against their fav idols but will join u if it's hate against the company or management or whatever.

[short laurel]

funfact about hybe. hybe/bighit had many issues come up in the past and BSH has said "we investigated it but everything fine"

[subtle matrix]

The amount of aespa fans I've seen hating on other groups tells me this is not true

[short laurel]

if other gorups hate on SM, then mys will join u.

[ashen charm]

mys hate one everyone its a fact

[copper jetty]

Lmao... you know that's their job when they're camping and actually monitoring your account.

[short laurel]

as long as hate is not on their fav artists*

[ashen charm]

why does everyone keep saying 0t6 like its an insult

[short laurel]

which ot6? army has their ot6 drama going on.

[copper jetty]

What ot6?

[ashen charm]

njz and mhj

[short laurel]

some people just hate mhj

[wary creek]

ohhh

[copper jetty]

Well she did some questionable things... which were disproven but compared to the men in kpop?

Not even equal. I wonder why kpoppers aren't even bothered with BSH and his consuming of p*do content (the streamers' video titles were questionable and i don't even want to know how that got into his radar) and also that producer from soumu. 💀

Also one of the men in those 5 kpop associations who was convicted for abuse??

[subtle matrix]

I mean that is true for most artists and their respective fandoms. They are usually not super protective of their companies unless their group is directly implicated on the criticism being levied

I'd say the thing most kpop fandoms have in common is hating their fave artist's label lol

[short laurel]

yea but in hybe groups case. no one targeted the groups. everyone knew somu messedup with lsfm, even be4 namedrop by mhj. and bts were not even involved. hate was on hybe and hybe alone but eveyone took offence. this is something very exclusive to hybe.

[ashen charm]

hopefully when njz leave ador more groups will follow suit

[short laurel]

meanwhile in SM. everyone screamed at SM when they messedup debut of their gg. there was no defending the company.

[copper jetty]

That's because hybe knows how to do fanwars. Just insert their oppars name and bam.

[short laurel]

hybe fandoms on their own put their fav artists on the radar of hate then started crying like victims.

i only get illit fandom case cuz they were directly involved.

[red thorn]

Hear me out my theory
The cctv incident, they avoided investigation through meeting with people involved, bc probably some of them don't want to lie, it would lead to an apology of the manager but still the misconduct, bad for company
So instead they initiated investigation through cctv only, selectively chose the nothing burger scene
Everything is fine, no misconduct happened

[short laurel]

bighit manager once almost hit bts member logn ago. hybe only took action cuz it was seen in public. iirc that was how it happened. behind i m sure they would've never done anything. old story so i not remember the full details, only head about it 2 years ago but story is even older.

[subtle matrix]

You can argue that hybe was to blame to a lot of the hate their groups received, but to say those groups weren't targeted is just historical revisionism. They received a ridiculous amount of online hate

[short laurel]

their fandom butt their nose in 1st. that's the different here.

[subtle matrix]

Oh there it is

"they did it first"

And then people wonder why kpop fandom is so toxic lol

[short laurel]

lsfm were getting hate for reasons unrelated to mhj and nj.

[short laurel]

dude. u missing my point. bts were never mentioned. lsfm already had hate cuz of saperate issue. bunnies targeted hybe and those 2 jumped in. ok lsfm name was dropped cuz of media drama but bts were never involved at all. all other fandom drama, artists are involved. here they were not even involved.

they butt their nose, then fanwar got huge and we are at today.

atleast know the story and how it is different from usual fanwars.

[subtle matrix]

I am not missing your point, you are missing mine. It doesn't matter who did it first or second or third. What matters is that every fanbase has toxic fans who respond to online hate by hating on other groups. Arguing who did it first is completely irrelevant because escalating online hate doesn't protect your group, it only makes the other fans escalate even more

[copper jetty]

The source for everything is BSH and his ego. Everything else is like collateral damage. The company and the group. 💀

[short laurel]

i m not even talking about that. my point is how fandoms of hybe groups are different from other kpop groups.

who did it 1st doesn't matter here. what matters is hybe fandom defends everything hybe but in sm, yg, cube everyone shit on them, no one defending them other than very small portion of old fandom ig..

[short laurel]

the way the labels are always super fast to defend him.

[subtle matrix]

The fact that fan groups within hybe keep waging these fanwars against each other makes me think this isn't as big of a factor as you're making it seem lol

[copper jetty]

And this is why I don't believe that "Hybe subsidiaries" exist. Maybe on paper, but we learned that from the Hybe vs MHJ, Once the media play started, didn't the CEO of all these subsidiaries sign something (like a statement) against her. I remember SVT fans were angry with Pledis CEO for inserting himself in this.

[subtle matrix]

Even fans of each BTS member can't stop talking shit to each other 😭

[ashen charm]

i remember that coachella list leaked and it had newjeans on it

[short laurel]

those are akgaes. that one is everywhere.

[copper jetty]

I believe that was fan made. Like who they wanted for coachella

[short laurel]

honestly fanwars in kpop are never a big deal, it's exclusively on social media. only time it becomes a bigdeal is when these fans sends funeral wrath. or drama reaches the media

[ashen charm]

some guy posted the leak on tiktok it blew up

[copper jetty]

Which is absurd cause what does that even change? Even with the trucks. They can stand there all day but unless nothing changes with the companies itself or the law then

[subtle matrix]

Idk if it's a big deal, but it's a deal... Obviously most fans don't care about these squabbles but sometimes it gets so big that it has a serious effect on the commercial success of the artists. And obviously it's awful for the artists themselves

[copper jetty]

Yeah that was that. It was fanmade. Like dream football but for coachella

[ashen charm]

hybe shouldnt even have sub labels period now way you could treat them all equaliy someone will always get left out

[short laurel]

funeral wrath towards artists and drama reaching artists. these thigns have lead to s*icide.

[copper jetty]

What???

Why would funeral wreaths have to do with suicides???

[short laurel]

so many k artists all cuz of internet hate

[ashen charm]

dating rumors can end your career

[short laurel]

if towards artists, it shows ppl hate the artists.

[subtle matrix]

I think the sublabels exist for that exact reason. Each sublabel works independently for a smaller number of artists so they're not sharing all the resources and there's less favouritism at play

[short laurel]

on paper. but bsh the chairman of hybe is involved in each of them

[ashen charm]

yeah but hybe rarley monitors them so they have free range to do what ever they want like source music is terriable with there artist

[subtle matrix]

Of course but if they were all working under hybe directly he would have even more control

[short laurel]

it would've been better that way honestly. though we wouldn't have newjeans then.

maybe some memebrs would still be there but as different group.

[ashen charm]

eunchae was suppose to debut in newjeans

[stiff prairie]

Hybe shouldn't have started this sublabel thing on the first place. Everyone is under you, you control everything, no hassle w 3rd party ppl like mhj or anything

[copper jetty]

But that basically defeats what Hybe is doing though? They're actually sharing resources instead of keeping it to one. Staffs are getting transferred from one company to another. So why the need for subsidiaries if you're not gonna stick to what a subsidiary should be doing?? 💀

[stiff prairie]

Where did u get that from

[copper jetty]

I don't think she was supposed to debut in newjeans. It was the media play hybe were doing in the first place. Remember there was only one group, supposed to be, that was debuting. Interestingly they marketed it as MHJ group, and people thought that it would have Minji, Hanni, Chaewon, Yunjin and Sakura. 💀

[short laurel]

yea somu gg was promoted as mhj's group. even illit was promoted as groups made with inspiration from lsfm and newjeans. ofc once this drama exploded they took down those articles.

this part, i m never going to forget. the hypocrisy of hybe

[copper jetty]

Interestingly X bunnies still found articles on it. I also remember the discussions here last year from pre debut and debut bunnies.

[ashen charm]

when mhj was picking out members she got hanni and minji from source music eunchae didnt fit the concept and hyein joined in 2021

she was in the pool mhj just didnt pick her up eunchae joined lsrf because the group needeed a gen z appeal

[copper jetty]

Yeah hence she wasn't gonna debut in it.

Also, i wanted to get into LSFM 2 years ago and I kinda watched the documentary where they formed the group... I didn't know then but I was kinda thinking why they were rushing the debut process like they only had months... which was weird to me. Like does it only take months to train idols???

[stiff prairie]

Their idols are kinda more or less experienced tho. I forgot who's who but few of them were idols or in other ent related stuff etc

[ashen charm]

kazuha joined and had to learn on the spot which was kinda isnane to me i also believe that hybe wanted garam out thats why they didnt protected her from the allegations

[red thorn]

The more funny thing about hybe
Hybe/bighit ent./bighit music because those share the same founded date it's the chicken or the egg situation

[subtle matrix]

tbf the fact that LSF had older members with previous experience should've lead to a quicker trainee period. The oldest NJZ member now (almost 3 years after their debut) is younger than Yunjin was when LSF debuted, and Yunjin is only the 3rd oldest in the group. I think the expectation was for Chaewon/Sakura/Yunjin to carry the group at first

[ashen charm]

sakura joined then chaewon after hybe bought her contract then yunjin and finally eunchae and kazuha

[subtle matrix]

Yeah those 3 were the core. And they also tried to recruit another former izone member iirc?

[copper jetty]

That's fair though. Although at that time I didn't know who's who and I didn't know they had prior experiences. Also, I think i mostly got this thinking with Kazuha... they only had her train for a while. And I understand she has background in ballet but that's different with other dance and also training with singing etc. It was too strange for me I guess.

[ashen charm]

Yeah minju but she declined pretty much every idol that was popular in japan

[jolly junco]

We really should change this thread name into HYBE uncensored

[copper jetty]

Topic change guys...

[red thorn]

Njz performed new song
Pit stop

[short laurel]

it's pretty much in trend with hybe, not much training in music. their groups are more about dance moves.

[stiff prairie]

Nah I kinda liked seeing conversation about other things tbh. Anything njz related escalates to argument or sadness

[short laurel]

was it jk in bts who trained his singing on his own? he trained himself through youtube heard.

[jolly junco]

Yeah i dont mind either, everything HYBE related is really not a taboo so discussing it should be fine as long as we dont insult them

Thats why i suggest to change the thread name

[copper jetty]

I actually can't stop listening to a video of it on X... I can't wait for them to release it...
It's so good that I keep on wanting to dance.

[stiff prairie]

breathe...before i spin

[stiff prairie]

Name it discussion so we can talk about anything happening in the world

[copper jetty]

What in the fudge are they talking about here. 💀

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1905924709109108751?t=cMk9ZUkFLz2HLNxEDb7RAw&s=33

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

we’re up against a motherfucking cartel 💪

X · Mar 29, 2025, 10:07 AM

[honest sky]

Taking it too far LOL

[jolly junco]

nugu? 😭

which cartel are we talking about

[kindred estuary]

maybe this

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1905887283540275504

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

Director Lee Jung-sub:

“No one truly understands the desperation of having to smear shit all over this impregnable cartel just to expose it—the cartel made up of the Korean media, the corporations funding them, the stars they promote, and the political and financial elites they

X · Mar 29, 2025, 7:38 AM

[copper jetty]

I know I was like?? What kind of take is this??

[subtle matrix]

Idk if describing korean conglomerates as cartels is taking it too far tbh

[copper jetty]

Wait someone sent a whole connection link a while ago.. where the hell is it??

Not cartel then but just connections ain't it?

[kindred estuary]

here's the flowchart of connections posted here earlier

#1231839760759263232 message

[vital orbit]

*x https://x.com/fl9mee/status/1905920755881103841?t=6rtOwwObYDQ2OprwlVREVw&s=19

[harsh dove]

@fl9mee <t:1743241893:d>

[vital orbit]

We have suffered a bitter defeat.

That's why I am shamelessly urging you to tell HYBE to go back to their senses and repost the mentioned Tokki's tiktoks & this post.

#HYBEStopAskingHormonal16YearOldFanficWritersToSupportYou
#HYBETalkToNJZ
#GiveNJZtheIPtoNewJeans

[red thorn]

Need that minji☝️zooming spin sticker

[vital orbit]

you could crop the videoand add the turn it into a gif then turn it into a whatsapp sticker / discord sticker

*x -c https://x.com/yo_lobster/status/1905394440698823054?t=6wE8-kZo1J1HYQ8Iczh8OA&s=19

[harsh dove]

@yo_lobster <t:1743116409:d>

Guys, @Windows is buying out THAT building! 🤓

[vital orbit]

normally microsoft ruins everything it touches but this is a good investment

[craggy skiff]

investing in njz is really a potential move. just let mhj cook whatever she wants and take the profits instead of telling her what to do

[vital orbit]

i dont fully support that woman either though

[harsh dove]

@haerinthequeenn <t:1743091433:d>

The sheer difference is uncanny BBC Chinese has now posted the video 90% of the comments support NJZ if you see a hater comment NJZ is immediately being defended by a ton of people under it

@sore_aru1 <t:1743118025:d>

Calvin Klein official on threads! Y'all think the same or am I reaching? 👀

[craggy skiff]

I just dont give a shjt about how her private life is. As long as she is working well, then it is fine to mee

[short laurel]

korean economy is said to be going downhill. the longer they keep this up the more harm it'll cause. lets c how long this cartel last.

[short laurel]

there are few things microsoft done right. lets hope if they ever takeover they do it right. 🤷‍♂️

[vital orbit]

doubt theyd take over. its js pr person for shi n giggles

[vital orbit]

a takeover would be the coolest but unexpected thing ever. can you imagine windows 7 x NewJeans?

[red thorn]

Windows XP NewJeans edition

[short laurel]

windows 98 newjeans edition

or 95 fit better i think

ngl. i wish saudi arabia investment was real.

[subtle matrix]

Idk if saudi arabia and their human rights record would improve anything in hybe or the industry at large

[short laurel]

it was be4 hybe tookover ador so it maybe could've helped mhj retain control over ador. but sadly the "investment" was just hybe made up story against mhj "breach of trust"

[hot girder]

Saudi Arabia human rights vs Korea worker rights

they're having a mid off

[vital orbit]

OR... Windows ME/2000 that was literally designed for the year 2000. y2k.

[vale grove]

[copper current]

https://x.com/iseauseamee/status/1905910861912576388

NJZ Fund (@iseauseamee) on X

Hybe/Ador want to win the NJZ case only for:
- NJZ will have to pay a penalty, which will help them with their financial problems since 2024.
- NJZ will be put on hiatus if they come back.
There is "NO" other scenario in which they want to work with NJZ because trust has been

X · Mar 29, 2025, 9:12 AM

*x -c https://x.com/Liasshy/status/1905912215074394463

[harsh dove]

@Liasshy <t:1743239856:d>

Group so successful hybe stole their plans out of spite only to fail miserably

[copper current]

Hybe does not know it is not the plan, it is the members and their personalities and bonds that make this group shine

https://x.com/Phamkuromi/status/1905892739151257814

Chericheri／(≧ x ≦)＼🍒🍀 (@Phamkuromi) on X

Read it & this is exactly what NJZ is up against, K media, capital, Kim & Chang. Remember they are not lost, & not wrong for fighting. A single loss does NOT define the outcome. What matters is that they stood up & refused to bow down to corruption that many choose to ignore.

X · Mar 29, 2025, 8:00 AM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1905964423430426748 does not contain any media!

[mild mist]

nothing of any value was lost

[old cypress]

Is it actually hybe? I read the article and it wasn't clear

The real confirmation came from belift later when they namedropped illit

[copper jetty]

Is it only me or were they cooking and there was a possible collab with them?

With the minesweeper thingy and windows account promoting them non stop or am I just delulu.

[copper jetty]

It's actually Hybe who name dropped their group first. And then Belift confirmed it later on.

[old cypress]

In that article? It's not really clear whether it actually came from hybe or from a person in the know

[copper jetty]

Yes. The thing is i actually remember at that time of Hybe releasing a statement regarding that. Funny thing is i can't seem to find that statement anymore. 💀

Even if I try to find it on the internet the only thing I find this koreaboo article.

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/newjeans-illit-hybe-exposed-ignore-hanni-reactions/

[old cypress]

the source for this is https://marketinsight.hankyung.com/article/202409125297r

in any case Hanni didn't name drop them

[copper jetty]

It was that article and they specifically quoted this

Honestly with all the things that happened since last year... there's a lot of details already that I can't remember.

Is someone doing a timeline or something?

[opaque torrent]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1906009244673147053

XOXO 🤍 GG (@thegreatgaram) on X

A week later and I can still only count on one hand the number of comprehensive and neutral articles reporting on the injunction results. This is one of them.

TAKEAWAYS:
- comprehensive look at breakdown in trust may gain strength in main trial

X · Mar 29, 2025, 3:43 PM

[old cypress]

great article

[honest sky]

Thanks

[copper jetty]

Also why is my army friends telling me that NJZ are done for in court and that they disobeyed the injunction?? She said they said NJZ 💀

Apparently that's the narrative around kpop discourse now.

I told her I watched that stream and no where did they mention NJZ and they in fact introduced their personal names.

[old cypress]

armys get fed false news all day i would dismiss anything an army say

if you look into it their sources are often aespann and sniper

[orchid field]

which is crazy because thats like quoting a serial liar

[copper jetty]

Aespann and sniper don't even post their sources. It just comes out of their

https://tenor.com/view/unicorn-rainbow-fly-magical-animated-gif-12782614

Ok she replied.. she said the members wore Chapter NJZ and that the Merchs they sold were NJZ and not NewJeans. That's why they're in trouble

Is it possible that they're going to get in trouble for this?

[upbeat stream]

https://x.com/virentis/status/1905269296416047440

커뉴🏁 (@virentis) on X

방시혁이 누진쓰 데뷔에 대해 한 약속 깨고, 누진쓰 인사 씹고 다니고, 음반 밀어내기 권유한 거 거절했다고 배임죄 씌우고, 거기 홍보팀이 역바이럴 돌리고, 업계동향보고서에 타돌 내려치기와 함께 뉴 버리고 새 판 짠다고 언급하고, 의료기록 및 연습생 때 영상...

X · Mar 27, 2025, 2:42 PM

Glad to see resistance from at least some knetz against the prevailing narrative

[upbeat stream]

The court did not give them enough time to change the merch or cancel the performance without the attendees suffering major inconvenience. Many of them had already flown to hk and paid for hotels. As for njz hats or body paint, the court did not expressly prohibit them from doing that

They didn't introduce themselves as njz, and the organizers removed 'njz' from the list of performers for Sunday

[subtle matrix]

They could never face legal repercussions from the HK performence after ador said they would send staff to support them there

Regarding the merch I guess there could be a case there but depends very much on the specifics

[old cypress]

Idk about selling merch but wearing means nothing, it's like wearing a Metallica tshirt

[subtle matrix]

Yes I'm talking about selling merch. But even then it's possible that they have a good legal defense for that, even if ador claims any damages

Which I don't think they'll do unless they get destroyed in the lawsuit

I don't think they would pursue it regardless. Win the lawsuit and it doesn't matter, lose the lawsuit and pursuing this would only make them look worse

[copper jetty]

Makes sense. Also I think they could argue that the merchs before hand were already on the site.

[short laurel]

https://fixupx.com/si_bbangsh/status/1905619619408191749 someone translate pls

스토커 방시혁 (@si_bbangsh)

@virentis @9u_mung 빅히트 전 이사 채은님 글이
︀︀여태까지 올린 글 중에 제일 좋아요가 많음
︀︀
︀︀트위터 셀럽 진수는 매일 알람이 얼마나 쏟아질까
︀︀바퀴벌레같은 것들이 꼬이는 게 아닌 찐셀럽의 삶이 궁금하네

❤️ 2 👁️ 251

FixupX · Mar 28, 2025, 1:54 PM

also accounts username translates to "stalker bang si-hyuk" 🤣

[short laurel]

supportive post are old accoutns meanwhile anti's posts are from new account. i noticed this under this thread

[copper jetty]

"I'm dying at the he was the worst boss I've ever had and I still hate him."

[short laurel]

ty

[copper jetty]

Wait is he describing BSH in this?

Let me dissect it

So basically he's saying he's narcissistic but I don't understand the "a person who has the eye to recognize talent but hopes that talent will remain like a tongue in one's mouth."

Is it like a korean saying or what??

[timber shell]

that phrase suggesting bsh is good at find someone who's talented, but wants him to be obedience for bsh

[shrewd badger]

Majority of the antis being new account huh 🤔 are antis scared of being exposed or smth ?

[copper current]

https://x.com/onlyhanni2k4/status/1906029414460362804

𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐢 ఇ⁷³ (@onlyhanni2k4) on X

No matter how many people hate you, there are always more people who love and believe in you my baby

We will wait for you to comeback stronger 🫳🏻🫳🏻

X · Mar 29, 2025, 5:03 PM

[wary creek]

so am I right in saying that njz need more evidence of hybe mistreatment because the judge is saying the reasons for contract termination were not serious enough

[copper current]

Yeah, and it is ridiculous because they have to prove they are mistreated to the judge’s satisfaction. How much is enough ? Is dying like actress Saeron enough for them?

[brazen ice]

and their standard for seriousness is difficult to reach considering the normalisation of mistreatment. Its genuinely such an issue, this thinking of "eh its just another day at the job as an idol"

[eternal ibex]

“speaking of newjeans didnt they interact and befriend some random 30year old racist fan who also hated the other groups 💔💔💔” friend said this not me
just wanna know what this even means btw i need to know what the hell theyre talking about

[storm warren]

they mean taly. njz met her once in November 2024 before her old twts popped up which happened like a week ago and she never hated on other groups

[eternal ibex]

ahhh got it

[storm warren]

they think using this lame shit againt njz is something lol

[eternal ibex]

did the girls directly meet up with her?

[graceful crypt]

hanni and danielle took a selfie with her

[storm warren]

yeah, dani & hanni iirc and took pic with her. it prob happened around same time they met that dude Jason, last year. it seems taly overshared it to show off despite being told not to.

taly was vocal on sns about njz, ppl dug up her old posts where she was racist and now they are using it against njz as if njz was time traveler or some bs lol

[eternal ibex]

what about the doxx thing? some person named elizabeth park

[storm warren]

anyways she never hated on other groups, they think everyone who defends njz and tries to clarify misinfo is their faves hater

[storm warren]

that lady? she had her info up on her bio

[eternal ibex]

ahhh thank u i see now

[storm warren]

like she made her info public for everyone (she doxxed herself lol) and that lady was exposed being racist herself iirc

[storm warren]

np

[subtle matrix]

That is a wild simplification of what happened

[storm warren]

use your time to write long answer idc

[storm warren]

[copper current]

This woman is so evil and I hate her fake voice.

[copper current]

https://x.com/webelieveinbots/status/1905416564188627043

webelieveingwarosa (@webelieveinbots) on X

Njz is over in Korea? Hybes economic performance says otherwise! Back in 2024 Hybe lost 423 million dollars only from NJZ terminating their contracts, it’s seems to be that NJZ’s reputation is still affecting Hybe, as they just had to cut their spending short by closing a company

X · Mar 28, 2025, 12:28 AM

[storm warren]

one thing about hybe is they will always jump on whats trending, such was NFT and this is the result

Levels will be next, eventually

its not hard to predict that they will now pour investment into AI

maybe even add AI feature to Weverse lol

[hoary frost]

ah oops, i pinged someone on accident, my bad
but can someone look into this?? what is it
https://theqoo.net/hot/3671713861

[old ingot]

thats me kek (the one who got pinged)
I was wondering what happend

[hoary frost]

mb

[heady gate]

I believe BSH attended AI Dev 25 and took a picture with Dr. Andrew Ng. The picture blew up and sparked speculation about HYPE's use of AI. (there is no proof of it)

[vital orbit]

but their name was written as NJZ by the organisers onscreen

[frosty echo]

https://vxtwitter.com/njzbubblegum/status/1905561506588287367?s=46 dunno if it is real

[vital orbit]

its been out for an entire day its real. hybe hasnt denied it

[split shoal]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2cCxEfD/

[frosty echo]

Oh wow

[heady gate]

I know Dispatch provide misinformation PR to the public. Are there other similar media outlets? Give me a few names.

[split shoal]

what should i do abt this tiktok?? they’re pretty much saying in the beginning that njz is continuing to do interviews with bbc before and after the injunction of the lawsuit

idk if she’s some sort of wannabe tiktok lawyer, or just an creator that gets sources from a website that’s unreliable, but that’s the sound of what this video is about

[mild mist]

I don't think it's covered under the injunction

the injunction lists three types of activities:

• as musicians
• as actors
• as advertisers

[old ingot]

An interview could be considered Advertiseing / Advertisers, depending on the kind of interview

Atleast here in DK we consider interviews as advertisement depending on the kind of interview

[split shoal]

okay, i just wanted to make sure i wasn’t confusing anyone with what i said

[mild mist]

this sort of interview is an advertisement and so would be covered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebIc3zjFfg0

but with time magazine and the bbc they're not trying to flog anything so I think it's allowed

[hoary frost]

Tag PR, this is affiliated with HYBE iirc...forgot in what way (just checked and they are under hybe)

[red thorn]

Tv daily, sports today, tenasia
Those 3 allegedly specialized targeting nj, rather than for public interest it's more like antis/pro-hybe interest news

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/Sancochogurl/status/1905945789802676685

Dani Mart 🐰 (@Sancochogurl) on X

"I'd rather see 3 minutes on stage than 3 years wasted in lawsuits" this is the most chilling portrayal of Kpop fans' twisted mentality. They advocate for idols to just shut up and dance, disregarding their well-being and creative needs. They truly don't care about them. Fuck you

X · Mar 29, 2025, 11:31 AM

[hoary frost]

Don't think this was even a fan

just mediaplay to create division

[steel depot]

no one can divide BNZ

[hot girder]

hybe is trying to push this narrative that even NJZ fans want them to go back to ADOR

[hoary frost]

yup but they are trying

[stable escarp]

Thats vile. Straight up inhuman

[vital orbit]

~t https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1906045912692007076

[narrow seal]

250329 NJZ Enthusiast (@​haerinthequeenn) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1906045912692007076
I just thought about it since Team Bunnies is working with Sejong and NJZ parents Team Bunnies said expect the objection to get rejected without a thought and only the appeal after is important means another overheated mediastorm and hate train Bunnies please don’t waiver 🩵

[vital orbit]

~t https://x.com/phamiiyy/status/1906044072034226669

[narrow seal]

250329 gabii🏁 (@​phamiiyy) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/phamiiyy/status/1906044072034226669
THIS ,that's why these three fandoms spread obvious misinformation and take everything out of context on purpose ,THEY'RE JEALOUS

[subtle matrix]

Why would they? The account # is the same but doesn't implicate them

[vital orbit]

wdym by the second sentence

OH as in the acc # doesnt imply hybe did it?

i think i heard someone say the bank # matches a hybe employer but idk if thats true

[subtle matrix]

I think there's just a match between this and the RIIZE thing

[vital orbit]

~t https://x.com/soyamoyas/status/1906121583766446089

[narrow seal]

250329 soy 🏎️🏁 (@​soyamoyas) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/soyamoyas/status/1906121583766446089
@pannchoa Hybe discriminated against Korean producers 250 and FrANK because of their preference to work with Zionist producers

[vital orbit]

yea but a match is still shady asf

[night niche]

~t https://x.com/vminnsm/status/1906085795167162698

[narrow seal]

250329 bear 🏁 (@​vminnsm) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/vminnsm/status/1906085795167162698
OwiwjwjwkeJWKWKKWJE

[night niche]

hybe never failing to be zionist 💀

[night niche]

hybe most definitely set this up

[vital orbit]

reallll

~t https://x.com/Phamkuromi/status/1905973749129818370

[narrow seal]

250329 Chericheri／(≧ x ≦)＼🍒🍀 (@​Phamkuromi) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Phamkuromi/status/1905973749129818370
NJZ Pit Stop Tiktok update

[vital orbit]

the use of the clean ver instead of the cover 🥰

[short laurel]

They already have. 1 artists mv was translated into multiple languages through ai n released.

[copper current]

https://x.com/imiofari/status/1906072826823540770

isa 🫧 NJZ!! (@imiofari) on X

posted!!! go support if you can!!

https://t.co/q6dIr2qajl

X · Mar 29, 2025, 7:55 PM

[vital orbit]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1906149690544173358?t=3_LBqyGGMQU0VQI2C6Uz5g&s=19

[narrow seal]

250330 1tokki (@​juantokki) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1906149690544173358
I've seen this screenshot being floated around and taken out of context. I wanted to QRT them but most of them has be blocked already. This is the usual Hybecel MO. They know other hybecels are stupid so using an out of context screenshot usual does the work to spark their fake

[vital orbit]

204 million dollars?

[Article: https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.amp.asp?newsIdx=381564]

[jolly junco]

wow hybe is really desperate to get money, are they on the road to bankrupt?

[vital orbit]

this is an old article about what would happen to newjeans after mhj was forced to step down as CEO to executive producer or wtv her other rank was

but yeah why do you need 203.9M dollars when ur top NEW groups havent even made that much money? it makes it clear that the kpop industry is built around the company not the idols. why is your fee for termination the same amount of money or less as the TOTAL income of your most successful group (BTS)

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250330 NJZ Enthusiast (@​haerinthequeenn) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1906185158320959692
Do you know how dangerous it is to say someone is anti a whole country? The amount of violent nationalists in countries that exist is your goal to make NJZ a target for violence in their own home country k-media needs to be abolished completely!

[old cypress]

keyword "potentially", it will be very hard to justify that amount and the court is likely to bring the number way way down

[grizzled summit]

hiii any updates

[hollow sorrel]

Hype Boy trending on tiktok right now is so funny to me like you really can’t get rid of NJZ no matter how much you invest/participate in the smear campaign

[ashen charm]

pit stop isnt good quality isnt good

[jade jolt]

Njz will always be the it girls group they are trending every month with smth

[jolly junco]

Even with fancam quality i already know pit stop is a bop, cant wait for the studio version

[ashen charm]

its good but icant here the lyrics clearly

[hollow sorrel]

https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1906061431843467642

pannchoa (@pannchoa) on X

HYBE rumored to have Mark Ronson, producer of 'Uptown Funk', work on NewJeans' upcoming full album
https://t.co/4EORxQOOYM

X · Mar 29, 2025, 7:10 PM

ofc its a zio... classic HYBE

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/juantokki/status/1906263468774478230

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250330 1tokki (@​juantokki) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1906263468774478230
‼️NJZ's appeal hearing against the injunction ruling is scheduled for April 9 at 2 PM KST. They filed the appeal on the same day the injunction was granted.

[stable escarp]

so the objection and appeal was on the same day? im confused

[subtle matrix]

I think the tweet is calling it "appeal" but it's "objection"

[stable escarp]

yeah probably but thats a crazy thing to get mixed up 😂

[frozen bronze]

the objection is just gonna cause so much extra hate since it isnt winnable, very sad

[storm warren]

we gotta survive upcoming smear campaign in April

it will be hardest month for us, but as cases proceed, there will be more clarity and situation should get better overall

[timber shell]

this reminds me of last year's april

i still remember the hate chain in that time

[steel depot]

it's not like the hate isn't happening already... the important thing is for us to survive this meaning no division... whatever the girls decide we support

[vocal sable]

i cant believe these ss are even real, this grown man has got nothing better to do the girls need to sue him

[short laurel]

i read on korean twter that this guy plagarised someone. but they didn't post any details

[frozen bronze]

this is actually insane

[short laurel]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1355599490475622524.png?size=160&name=mhj+pain+

[old cypress]

https://youtu.be/JD99oP26Ils this is a good video

[jolly junco]

The 1st hearing is getting closer….

I dont want to be happy because of others misfortune but… i hope kim soo hyun emergency press con tomorrow can bury all NJZ mediaplay until D-day

[vital orbit]

ktwt is obsessed with NJZ and any drama that happens in ktwt in general so they may find a way to link NJZ to the whole thing

[split shoal]

https://x.com/mhjisnake/status/1906016738715816195?s=46&t=oOCN_QbT_D5-50fQlxV08A

ofc i can’t send the full image here, but from telling that this account is a hate account dedicated to spread hate abt the girls

[brazen ice]

not really a good thing to say. but the opposite can happen, njz mediaplay to bury kim soohyun. unless its articles to paint the guy in a good light

[waxen musk]

Being on holiday and barely keeping up with updates in this thread is recommended.

Video above is very nice. I don't know how things got so twisted. People just don't listen to the girls.

I haven't seen anything positive in a long time and I worry that with the hiatus that there will literally be nothing postiive to discuss for months. I'm not looking forward to it.

[old cypress]

also people (including tokkis) accused mhj of involving njz but we now know that hybe wanted to take out both njz and mhj the moment they made the audit public

[night niche]

literally how’ve i’ve been for the past week

[steep torrent]

yep ever since the results came out i've hardly been on twt and just been chilling. not really worried tbh, its just a waiting game now

[hoary frost]

its just narratives that sound exciting in their head lol

I think a new hate train gets shifted seasonally to a new gg lol

[cerulean lake]

my same sentiment. that’s why i’m just trying to chill and find other interests for now 😔 while also limiting my time on this discord

[copper current]

https://x.com/Liasshy/status/1906463528598540305

Lia ✮ (@Liasshy) on X

Yall the leaker has nearly every kpop groups videos

We already been through so much with source music we don’t need another leak 💀

X · Mar 30, 2025, 9:48 PM

Anyone knows how to contact this person, we need Hybe leaks so NJZ can be saved

If we can find the video that Hanni mentioned, god, I am folding my sleeve to fight

[bronze talon]

idk this is all we got screenshot wise

no fricking idea what server this could be ☠️

[subtle matrix]

Would it change much to have the video of the supposed incident? It's poor quality security footage without sound

[bronze talon]

this should not be the only thing that would had to be recovered/leaked

[subtle matrix]

I think the only way to really legitimize the event would be to have people testifying in court

[bronze talon]

i think this might be the biggest leak in kpop history to anything

[copper current]

Or we can hear Hybe CEOs' mean scheme plotting against NJZ, there are many things to leak, for god sake, this can turn many things around. I couldn't find him on X, was eagerly trying to talk with him to save the girls

Which server is it? https://x.com/_hyeinn/status/1906476659563204828

ashley 🏎️ 🏁 (@_hyeinn) on X

blackpink OT7?

X · Mar 30, 2025, 10:40 PM

[bronze talon]

no idea

[gentle badger]

I can send you the link in DM if you want

But they're just posting the videos on their youtube channel

[copper current]

oh? can you convince that person to post Hybe?

Hybe leak like anything that is related to NJZ like they harming NJZ or blah blah etc.

[hoary frost]

i mean no matter what the proof is will they listen? they're stuck in their own echochambers and just peddle misinformation lol

[gentle badger]

People are asking but everyone is spamming something so

[old cypress]

it's pointless, just sit back and eat popcorn lol

[storm warren]

they obv dont have such thing. most they can leak is pre debut practice videos and unreleased content. id like them to leave njz alone

[hoary frost]

i share same sentiment...

[copper current]

I don't want them to leak NJZ practice videos, I hope they can leak Hybe videos about sabotaging NJZ for proofs

[gentle badger]

Sent you the link

[frozen bronze]

what kind of videos do you think this guy has lol

[hoary frost]

lol

[bronze talon]

probably just mv stuff and plannings to future upcoming and old unreleased stuff

[frozen bronze]

can you send it to me too please

[gentle badger]

Yep

[hoary frost]

If they supposedly can procure proof that's great, but I don't think fishing for proof to show to people who just like to spread misinformation and obscure facts is high on the priority list tbh, I mean people are already trying to use the video of illit bowing as a comeback when hanni already did say they bowed to her lol

people just believe what they want to believe

[potent lichen]

Can I get a link too

[copper current]

that server is a mess

[subtle matrix]

Yeah looks like it's mostly practice stuff?

[copper current]

people are so impolite, no one listens

[subtle matrix]

Wack. Why are they sharing this?

[gentle badger]

They got fired apparently

[copper current]

I have headache listening to them, can't post to prove my point about NJZ

[gentle badger]

Don't waste your time

[storm warren]

they received cease and desist from yg

it is Gurumi, i believe the one who leaked Jennie x V dating info and pics

[subtle matrix]

Doing a bunch of illegal stuff sounds like a reasonable response to a cease and desist

[storm warren]

they said yolo

[hoary frost]

how do they have all those companies data if they were just a yg employee? have they ever shared non yg leaks

[storm warren]

yes, aespa unreleased demo

[hoary frost]

oh ok

[storm warren]

and nct 127. i wonder if they hacked or smth

[hoary frost]

they are claiming they have over 100 tb for blockberry...i am surprised...?

[bronze talon]

no way that yt isnt taken down by tomorrow

[potent lichen]

Already being archived lol

[copper current]

that server is crashing, thought they ban me

[frozen bronze]

good thing he closed that chat, that might have been the worst discord chat ive ever seen

[bronze talon]

💀

[copper current]

We need someone who is good at persuading him to dig Hybe and save NJZ

[frozen bronze]

idk what kind of video you expect him to have that could help njz

[potent lichen]

For real

Channel is down already

[copper jetty]

Lmao I had hopes that they would leak NJ1 ngl. Oh well...

[copper current]

https://x.com/haerinizz/status/1906419811950727402

장미 (@haerinizz) on X

90% agree I love how there more positive tiktoks calling out how toxic kpop stan are

X · Mar 30, 2025, 6:54 PM

[cinder narwhal]

if he's a yg guy how'd he get other companies stuff

[copper current]

like he can leak the Hybe documents more, we just see part of it

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1863250283234562125

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

Wow!

Because MHJ used BANA and not HYBE A&R,

the copyrights for the main songs are owned by BANA's 250 and Frank.

So if HYBE doesn’t allow permission,

like Taylor Swift,

with permission from BANA, members can re-record all their old songs! 🔥

https://t.co/oD22Qu36CV

X · Dec 1, 2024, 3:54 PM

[hoary frost]

true?

[copper current]

I hope so

Last week they used NJZ, this week they used the leak to cover the pedo man? https://x.com/jiyongfication/status/1906473147567571276

‎ََ ‎ (@jiyongfication) on X

Wait isn’t that weird to yall how they will leak these the same moment as Kim Soohyun’s press conference day..????

X · Mar 30, 2025, 10:26 PM

[bronze talon]

copyright works so the right belongs to the actual individuals who sang it when the name refers to the members of a group no matter what label they work under

[old cypress]

The problem with kpop stans is they believe normal people are interested in stuff like unreleased ot7 blackpink practice videos