NJZ Updates and Discussion

[hollow adder]

he is the problem tbh

[fast snow]

After seeing this thread the chances of the judge being on their payroll wouldnt even be unrealistic

[short laurel]

garam who was at the time minor, proven innocent in court, is still treated as criminal by netizens. all cuz hybe's poor performance in protecting her. in NA hybe audit document it was proven hybe used her instead of protecting her. and still nothing was done to hybe. they got away with it. 😐
so no, idols are not safe under it. u never know when hybe start throwing another one of their idols udner the bus for "marketing"

[fast snow]

I'm convinced Garam was a sacrificial lamb to get LSF into the spotlight early on with a scandalous headliner

[short laurel]

hybe audit document pretty much confirmed that for me

[hollow adder]

i don't even get their broken mindset like why would u need to sacrifice a member to promote the group lol that makes no sense

[short laurel]

lsf would've made it without that. they were doing good even be4 that drama.

but again we've seen hybe obsession with numbers. and how some big artists are too small for them 😐

[hollow adder]

if anything they sacrificed the entire group to be under constant yet unnecessary scrutiny

[sage venture]

remember, this is the company that prevented NJZ members from promoting themselves as all being teenagers just to mislead the public

[vocal sable]

wait guys what happened in the interview i missed a lot i think

[old cypress]

there's even some random ass account translating hate comments

an actual company

[short laurel]

a company dedicated to translating hate comments against 5 yougn girls which includes 1 minor, 2 according to korean laws. that's a new low

[empty halo]

🛴 BRAUN

[subtle matrix]

Y'all I'm not gonna say hybe did the best job they could've done in protecting Garam (and as mentioned it seems they even planned to take advantage of the situation) but the idea that hybe could've planned it to make LSF blow up is a massive stretch

[empty halo]

ITS ALL HIM, THE FACT THAT THEY ASSOCIATE WITH HIM SO PROUDLY IS INSANE, ALSO BC OF THE FACT THAT HIS REP IS AWFUL IN THE US

and that's where they're tryna appeal it too like ???

[elfin solstice]

how joever is it 😭

[wary creek]

were the original ador employees mistreated? maybe they should be interviewed too

[short laurel]

need to reread the document that national assembly leaked. but it did seem to suggestion hybe used it as opportunity to promote. ofc we are not saying they planned it. but they did took advantage of it. so we are all in agreement here pretty much.

[empty halo]

i dont think any of them have come out and alleged mistreatment as far as I'm aware but a whole lot of them did LEAVE which is a sign

[frozen granite]

Guys we’re getting bombarded from all sides

[wary creek]

if other people spoke up then it make some heat off of njz

[frozen granite]

What are the chances the objections goes through.

[subtle matrix]

Objection is a dud imo, lawyers will just try to argue that the ruling is too damaging to NJZ

[elfin solstice]

i just watched the interview, idk what else they can do 😭 just seems like terrible case to win

[empty halo]

OG ador employees who speak up could become targets for HYBE, I could understand their hesitation to speak up, they're regular private citizens after all

[split bramble]

namiko is right, hybe is very closely alligned with the current right wing government

[short laurel]

maybe they can speak up in mainsuit. since their names won't become public and hybe won't be able to easily mediaplay on that without consequences. Maybe

[old cypress]

yeah they may testify during the main swuit

[elfin solstice]

wouldnt njz have to pay shit ton of damages (compensatory, nominal, maybe even punitive) for breaking an injunction *idk how damages work in KOR

[split bramble]

they arent breaking injunction

[short laurel]

only if they loose mainsuit but dw it won't be as much as media has been saying. court wil ldecide the amount.

[upbeat stream]

Hi guys, does anyone know if this part is in the court ruling coz I don't remember it:
'The court stated, "An exclusive contract is fundamentally built on mutual trust, and the obligations of an artist cannot be performed by another person in their place." Additionally, it ruled that forcing an artist to fulfill their obligations against their will would violate their basic rights. If trust between the parties is broken, contract termination is justified.'

[old cypress]

they aren't breaking the injunction they're on a hiatus right now

[subtle matrix]

Doesn't seem like hybe will pursue anything regarding the HK concert and merch and their case would be kinda weak regardless

[split bramble]

they already said they're pausing all activities to respect court's decision

[upbeat stream]

Or is it from some other ruling?

[storm warren]

I think it is from Supreme Court ruling

NJZ case (injunction) will go to SC after objection is denied

[split bramble]

its a stretch to say this but njz's best chance to win is change in government within next year, but that chance is becoming slimmer by the day as yoon is walking away scot free

[storm warren]

main lawsuit is handled by district court too right?

[hot girder]

https://vxtwitter.com/vminnsm/status/1904939537240908240?t=WuUG-zsjDkZNfIWqIpvfJQ&s=19

[empty halo]

Mr. @aiden2057 sure is good at korean 💀

[upbeat stream]

HC first, SC only if the losing party escalates it further. And even then, SC doesn't easily take up cases, there's a stringent review process, they are very selective. Although with the high-profile nature of this case and the lack of precedence, they might take it up

[sage venture]

Yep, that's a Supreme Court precedent I'll paste that part for you (in Korean)

전속매니지먼트계약이란 소속사나 매니저가 연예인의 연예업무 처리에 관한 서비스를 제공하고, 연
예인은 소속사나 매니저를 통해서만 연예활동을 하고 직접 또는 제3자를 통해서는 연예활동을 하지
않을 의무를 부담하는 것을 주요 내용으로 하는 계약이다. 전속계약은 그 성질상 계약 목적의 달성
을 위하여 계약당사자 사이에 고도의 신뢰관계를 유지하는 것이 필수적이고, 전속계약에 따라 연예
인이 부담하는 전속활동의무는 다른 사람이 대신할 수 없다. 당사자 사이의 신뢰관계가 깨어졌는데
도 계약의 존속을 기대할 수 없는 중대한 사유가 있는 경우가 아니라는 이유로 연예인에게 그 자유
의사에 반하는 전속활동의무를 강제하는 것은 연예인의 인격권을 지나치게 침해하는 결과가 된다.
따라서 계약당사자 상호 간의 신뢰관계가 깨어지면 연예인은 전속계약을 해지할 수 있다고 보아야
한다(대법원 2019. 9. 10. 선고 2017다258237 판결 참조)

[short laurel]

i m hoping for another public rally if yoon gets away with this

[subtle matrix]

Does anyone know where I can find the full video I'm struggling to find it now

[upbeat stream]

Thanks

[old cypress]

oh sorry didn't see someone else already replied

[raven kelp]

https://youtu.be/FAbMP0m57tM?si=ofgsZY873lugoR_T

[storm warren]

its from https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxq309kexeo

video attached in article

[old cypress]

man I love hanni

[subtle matrix]

Ah it's in here, thanks

[storm warren]

np

[subtle matrix]

The youtube video doesn't have the part from the clip of Hanni speaking

[glossy siren]

the day seulite tv ends up in front of judge...or in front of me...

[storm warren]

yeah, this video is solely the one taken after 24 hours after injunction ruling

yt video is mixes parts filmed before and after ruling

[old cypress]

is there any translation of the minji and hyein parts?

[empty halo]

did he upload again

[pastel umbra]

is it just me or do all the comments/commenters seem really weird under the interview video?

[storm warren]

dont pay attention to them, theyre hating

[shy schooner]

Majority are bots

[raven kelp]

cuz hybe's cooking

[short laurel]

to stop people like him a petition was accepted in national assembly. they will take it up once political stuff dies down.

[old cypress]

hybe is going all out and trying to flip the public opinion

[pastel umbra]

hybe can actually get away with this kinda thing? with all these new accounts and keyboard-smashed usernames
it doesn't make sense to me

[raven kelp]

tbh i don't think these comments will do much to influence majority of njz audience

[storm warren]

idts but korean article probably has transcript: https://x.com/juantokki/status/1904878947781009824

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

250326 BBC Korea

Why NewJeans Won't Return to ADOR Despite the "Independent Activities Ban"
https://t.co/PFIa0Ioyak
By Moon Joon-ah, BBC Korea Reporter

"The fact that the current situation isn’t in our favor socially shows that we’re not in a position where we can freely say

X · Mar 26, 2025, 12:51 PM

it is different from english article

[short laurel]

people can tell they are bots jsut by looking so dw

[old cypress]

they seem to have ptsd of their time with ador

[split bramble]

they do, and what they're going through now will give them ptsd too

[wary creek]

lol the Time interview youtube video is just mostly an interview but all the commenters are demanding for better legal analysis, evidence, and calling it misinformation.

[storm warren]

yada yada, why arent they demanding all these for all shitty korean articles

[subtle matrix]

Don't diagnose people with mental disorders that's wack

[hot girder]

they're weird. A bunch of hate commente but not a single positive one... and the names are mostly spam nonsense like "xapiwrhfyvv8", I usually see that type of username on instagram where you can't use any other alphabet other than the latin one. but on YouTube you're free to use any language so...

https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1904939598033092898?t=k8Dol5inFDVVcWOG0bw3zA&s=19

NJZ Enthusiast (@haerinthequeenn) on X

NJZ said about other teams but the articles change about instead to I’m not comfortable talking to other teams Jesus Christ…

X · Mar 26, 2025, 4:52 PM

[wary creek]

i'm wondering if they didn't watch the video or maybe they wanted hybe to be interviewed too and not just the girls? (which i doubt hybe would do)

[subtle matrix]

Most people commenting on this have picked their side and are completely ignoring new info now

Anyone who is against njz will find a reason to hate on them every time they come out and comment on it

kpop fandoms are too toxic to have people deal with this in a reasonable manner lol

And people have a really hard time understanding that if X fandom attacks your favourite group on twitter, doing to same to theirs isn't actually helping your group. You're just making it more toxic

[short laurel]

tbh, it's kinda same here too. if somehow girls were found to be wrong, majority here will still side with girls. (i hope this doesn't come to pass, i hope girls are not in the wrong)

[subtle matrix]

Oh yeah

Like obviously I have my thoughts about the parties involved in the case but I don't think I am pro NJZ or anti NJZ, I'm here legitimately trying to be more informed about the case. And obviously since this is a NJZ server and most of the conversation will be people supporting them, if I argue against or try to correct something that was said here I will most likely be arguing against NJZ. But I have also corrected people here when they said things against NJZ which aren't correct. I'm not a new jeans fan (I mean I like some of their songs but I'm not listening to them all the time) but I don't have any hate for them whatsoever.

But this more or less neutral stance is enough to make many people here constantly call me an anti lol

[mild mist]

stans do be like that

[subtle matrix]

It's funny because I get called an anti here but I got downvoted on reddit today (first time I commented on it there) for saying that you know, maybe these 5 girls aren't some masterminds conspiring to destroy hybe and all affiliated groups just to get more money for themselves

People demand you to pick a side and be fully invested in it

[hot girder]

A few like to argue their case is weak and that's fair, it's not an attack towards NJZ. But to doubt the things they've gone through, that's when I do feel like someone is heading towards being more of an anti than a fan/impartial. That's just me, though

[night niche]

i only have a problem when people start saying they don’t believe fully what the girls went through or that they’re exaggerating or some other nonsense

[hot girder]

not to mention it's actually impossible for them to bring hybe down lol

the only people who can do that is BTS themselves, and even then I doubt they can fully take hybe down

[night niche]

future documents:
• referring to NJZ as "pedojeans" (DONE)
• deep dive into mhj and her controversies
• hybe and its subsidiaries companies (source, belift, etc.) (up next)
• plagiarism court case
• how to find reliable sources in news and in the media, for NJZ's case and for life in general (up next)
• south koreas corruption, journalism, media play (DONE)
• reaction to the injunction in korean general public vs. knets (still deciding, may be hard to get proper data on)
• how do injunctions work?

i feel like im forgetting something but im not sure what exactly

i’ll also be making a good drive today since these papers are racking up in numbers

[hot girder]

It'd be nice if you had a drive folder with all the documents you made so far

[potent lichen]

We can have FAQ ref link whenever someone asks

[heady gate]

Yea, I'm sure other K-pop artists have faced similar treatment like NJZ, but they lack a voice to speak up.

[old cypress]

is it not just a mistranslation? I put the korean text in grok and it's translating to "I don’t feel comfortable talking about the other team"

[hot girder]

Could be? Google translate is kinda whack yeah

[night niche]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HY01lCwfkB-R6BHqOQu5wPumMpUCOJRE/view?usp=drivesdk

all my current docs in a google drive

lmk if there’s any problems with viewing

[short laurel]

that's hanni family doc

[night niche]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Q84hNpwSwPEDLuRI4YGFJLksGYViRuvW

this should work ?

[mental lynx]

yes

[hoary frost]

Knetz really did turn on NJZ

[night niche]

and then if they win the main lawsuit they’re gonna pretend it never happened, i can’t take knetz seriously and never will

[elfin solstice]

tyy this was a nice tldr i have been trying to figure out what all this convo is abt 😭

[hoary frost]

Is all about court rulings. If the court is in favor of HYBE, knetz will be on hybe's side. That's how normies in korea work. Law is law to them

[night niche]

which is sad because it almost all the cases against large companies the courts have been lenient or on the side of the company due to corruption

“law is law” and yet their countries judiciary is almost always in favor of chaebols 💔 wish they could see the corruption that happens right in front of their eyes

[frozen granite]

Is it true that the public in SK turning against Njz ? I know the comments on the bbc video are hating on them but it could also just be antis so idk how accurate the statement that the South Korean public is turning against them

[night niche]

i don’t think that’s accurate as knets don’t represent the general public opinion on NJZ

though i think the current general opinion is still mixed

by general opinion i mean korean general public

[elfin solstice]

is opinion mixed bc of the stuff with ilit or other things

[strange dove]

Nah the comment section is being bombarded by bots. It's 4AM KST and new Korean comments keep flooding in, all while getting 10+ upvotes within 30 seconds lol.

[night niche]

not really illit moreso other things

[upbeat stream]

court ruling more than anything else. If NJZ had won, would've been completely different

[subtle matrix]

Realistically like >90% of the country doesn't gaf about this case lol

[upbeat stream]

If this issue isn't resolved by the end of the year, and it's unlikely to, then I would be interested in seeing where newjeans rank on gallup survey

[subtle matrix]

Most people would be aware because they are massive but like how many people are actually discussing it irl

[upbeat stream]

It specifically asks for your favorite artist in the given year, but people still say some groups on hiatus too

Newjeans was #1 among the <40 crowd for 2 years in a row

[wary creek]

maybe once the main case starts, we'll see a lot more interest. It'll be on the news

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/diorkitty_0515/status/1904936552381534676

[narrow seal]

250326 supernatural | NJZ REDEBUT 🏎️🏁 (@​diorkitty_0515) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/diorkitty_0515/status/1904936552381534676
1 hour has passed, 241k views, 15.3k comments.

The ratio of comments to views is still 1:15. It feels so coordinated, doesn't it?

[copper current]

They are using tag or to bury NJZ. I told you guys. We need reverse tag pr if we want to save them

They want to kill NJZ for sure. Even with pannchoa translated comments, they all filled with Hybe narratives and tell NJZ that everyone is hated and endure it.

I fought with haters on NJZ videos and this creep asked me what my nationality is, which source I used and I didn’t give it to him because they want to know the source to hate and prevented us from getting information

[surreal raft]

Hey guys..

so I’m currently famous on twt not in a good way tho..

[rugged dagger]

lmao what happened

[night niche]

what happened?

[surreal raft]

I posted like a thread on Twitter videos with NJZ and like BTS and lesserafim and svt and every army is replying and hating like literally I’m being clocked all the way and it’s killing me

I got called pig just now..

[rugged dagger]

lmfao

[short laurel]

Private your profile. These ppl are known for doxing others.

[elfin solstice]

why is there beef between NJZ and bts 😭 and leserrafim

[night niche]

bro 💀

[night niche]

cause of hybe stans 🤮 and old ladies who are bts fans that don’t like njz’s success

[subtle matrix]

It's kpop there's beef between everyone

Yesterday I saw someone ask why there's beef between aespa and lsf fans and someone replied (unironically) "I think it's because lsf's perfect night delayed aespa's supernova topping the circle charts by a week" or something like that

[surreal raft]

WHAT

[vocal sable]

omg girl whats ur twitter

i need to clock them

[subtle matrix]

You'll feel a lot better about the toxic fanwars when you accept that most of the people participating in them are 14 year olds who have nothing better to do

[short laurel]

Wait till u find out many of them are in their 40's n 50's.

[night niche]

most bts fans are either 12 or middle age women and it’s kinda freaky

[surreal raft]

ocqanii

[frozen granite]

How are you guys holding up?

[short laurel]

By not opening social media

[night niche]

i’m chilling

[short laurel]

Real answer: just cuz

[surreal raft]

Farts and liars is so funny

[frozen granite]

I thought we’d have a chill week, but seems like we’re not

[subtle matrix]

When you want to participate in online beef but your mother doesn't let you swear

[night niche]

you can literally see the age in their tweets 💀

[sonic saffron]

i got suspended bc of them armies

[wise wagon]

its a bit funny to think about when put that way, that people playing lawyers and moral police are this young

[vocal sable]

LMAOOO??? what type of dumb insult is this

[surreal raft]

HELP

[frozen granite]

Are toxic fandoms using the bbc comments to spread more misinformation & negativity ?

[surreal raft]

sadly yes

[wise wagon]

yeah, more than ever which is honestly insane every video i tap on about the topic there's not a single positive comment in support of the girls

[vocal sable]

as someone who has been an army since like 2017 its so sad to see the downfall of the fandom like twitter is just crazy i stay away from the army side of twitter because wtf 😭😭 id rather keep up with the group on my own

[frozen granite]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-cats-sleepy-sleepy-cat-insomia-gif-12605363

[subtle matrix]

Yeah I made a similar comment the other day. What's crazy is that this online discourse actually has a huge effect on the groups and their commercial success because teens consume more music than any other demographic

[wise wagon]

it breaks my heart too especially that hyein herself is a big army :[

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/dollphams/status/1904971353691930770

[narrow seal]

250326 n 🌬️♪ (@​dollphams) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/dollphams/status/1904971353691930770
the same ppl tryna villainise hanni are the ones who would ask for an autograph real life

[frozen granite]

That’s why I believed winning the injunction would’ve made everything in our favor … the only thing that can alleviate all of this negativity is winning the objection, but let see what happens. Team bunnies is working with the lawyers, but who knows what can be done tbh

[night niche]

since im black and i cant stand most of their past racism im thankful i never got into the group

also why im not really into kpop in general

[frozen granite]

Do you guys think team bunnies is cooking something good or nah?

[fathom canopy]

Those people also wouldn’t dare say anything hateful to her face

[surreal raft]

I hope so

[vocal sable]

oh definitely this is inexcusable

[wise wagon]

the tokki fandom is genuinely insane ive never seen a fandom this united and active to protect its members ><

[subtle matrix]

I think they're cooking up a lawsuit against themselves pretty soon

[night niche]

how so 😭

[night niche]

and the sad thing is like more than half of it is just bot comments

[hoary frost]

tragic

[frozen granite]

Wait how can we be sure they are bots? I only ask bc I was once defending Njz & they were calling me a bot so how can one tell ??

[wise wagon]

i cant believe they're willing to go this far with the media play to the point where bots are beginning to spam njz videos with hate

[subtle matrix]

By sharing alleged internal documents and suing people on twitter

Oh the suing people on twitter thing isn't true

They are only planning on doing so

[midnight yarrow]

41 or older*

[short laurel]

Usernames gives it away. Remember some time ago there were bunch of indian name accounts defending hybe or something in korean.

This time names are random jumbled words

[midnight yarrow]

there is the unmistakable odor of jobless, miserable adult energy behind most of the hate comments. Wouldn't be surprised if even the oldest members could be their daughters.

[night niche]

when every single new comment is in support of njz, the top comments barely have any replies, when the user names of the top comments are strange, yeah they’re bots

[subtle matrix]

Being called a bot/accused of being on someone's payroll is a classic initiation ritual for anyone participating in online discussions

[short laurel]

Yea but youtube hate comments are so obviously actual bots

[subtle matrix]

fwiw it's very likely that both sides are doing it

Oh accusing reddit mods of being on the payroll is also very important

[short laurel]

Reddit mods when deleting any thread that puts hybe in negative light is what made ppl think that

[upbeat stream]

They are just biased lol

[short laurel]

Too biased.

[night niche]

eh…

[night niche]

no this is a problem that’s actually very rampad on youtube outside of NJZ’s situation, you can’t really open a comment section without it being filled with bots anymore especially on popular videos, and youtube is not doing much to prevent it

[young wyvern]

that bbc interview njz did tells me everything i need to know about their legal representation, lord

[hot girder]

If not on a payroll they're biased as fuck. You can be biased but to the point of deleting comments that don't agree with you? C'mon

[young wyvern]

i can assure you these reddit mods are not paid lol theres definitely bots but the mods are just delusional

[short laurel]

They are super biased

[sly python]

i'd recommend staying off reddit & twitter, in general as well for the time being

i noticed tiktok is mostly positive whereas the two mentioned prior were the complete opposite

[short laurel]

Tiktok bots too. Tiktok bots scares me how their comments are to the point of video(bots on popular videos, not kpop related)

[sly python]

yea just lay low & hold till april 3rd

unless u want to farm some social media engagement then be like the rest of the kpop stans rn

you'd think the folks that are anti-newjeans would not be replying/commneting on anything NJZ related but proceed to do so

[clear saffron]

Yess, I've seen it all over yt and people saying hanni is crying crocodile tears 😭

[hot girder]

I didn't say they are on a payroll but that they're biased as fuck

[short laurel]

It's so rare to c anti hybe post surviving

[sly python]

also i find it funny how people complain about CEOs being on headlines when JYP just toured

[short laurel]

Jyp still an active artists

[sly python]

ehhh debatable

[short laurel]

He makes n sings songs. How is it debatable

[subtle matrix]

I mean just today people over there were complaining about the opposite lol the more likely explanation is that a lot of threads get deleted in general because there are a lot of people reporting threads

[dapper root]

the wording of this is funny because the k in knetz stands for korean 😭😭

but i understand what your saying

knetz would be apart of the korean general public

[night niche]

yeah, but they don’t represent the full opinion of what the average korean thinks of the situation yknow
a funny thing is actually only up to 5-10% of the total population of korea are considered “knetz”, they a small but loud minority

most koreans passively consume content instead of commenting

[surreal raft]

https://x.com/sandarmy23/status/1905002855981093102?s=46 guys im confused by this.. is it true

MONA Sandy²⁰²⁵ ᴮᵗˢ ʸᵉᵃʳ 💜 ⁷⁼¹ (@sandarmy23...

@ocqanii MHJ named illit BY NAME (out of NOWHERE) in her first press conference after Hybe’s first audit and these girls have done NOTHING BUT defend and praise her since, wearing shirts of her, calling her the 6th member, meeting with her in secret, and refusing to work without her.

X · Mar 26, 2025, 9:04 PM

[night niche]

she didn’t mention out of nowhere 💀 as a matter of fact she quite literally said the girls themselves did nothing wrong

[short laurel]

Media n public called it 1st, that illit n nj has similarities, then internal complaint by mhj to belft, then media attacked mhj, mhj had to come up crying to clear her name, illit name drop happened but she made it clear the problem was belift management , not illit

[night niche]

don’t believe the things bts stans say

[surreal raft]

oh wow..

[mild mist]

the 'out of nowhere' is not true, but this response does not answer the original question about njz

[short laurel]

That's quick summary of it

[surreal raft]

How do I turn off comments and reposts for this post its getting CRAZYYY

[mild mist]

curious why the deranged twitter user thinks that min heejin mentioning illit is some sort of heinous crime

[surreal raft]

Like when did this even happen WHY ARE THEY LYINGG

[short laurel]

The fact that hanni's complaint had illit censored everytime. But ador n belift confirmed it's illit

[heady gate]

2 days ago, HYPE's CEO said he is planning to damage NJZ reputation. That is why we are seeing those posts.

[short laurel]

"i m not company stan" then proceedes to change story to their liking so company name doesn't come up even though company is the one in wrong.

[split shoal]

idk if allowed, but this one too

https://x.com/bangtanchoco7/status/1904850152352776649?s=46&t=oOCN_QbT_D5-50fQlxV08A

[short laurel]

They getting clocked. Good job bnz

[split shoal]

https://x.com/bangtanchoco7/status/1904853865997992427?s=46&t=oOCN_QbT_D5-50fQlxV08A

another one too, bnz keep clocking these bts stans

[surreal raft]

Guys do I say nothing or

[short laurel]

Block them n stop sharing them here

[split shoal]

shouldn’t we report too?? what will that benefit

[short laurel]

Yea report too. But i doubt anything will happen to that one.

They acting like they are getting the panelty money

[surreal raft]

okayy thank you

[night niche]

yeah report them

[young wyvern]

isnt MHJ under investigation herself

[night niche]

does NJZ’s situation remind anyone else of wicked

[short laurel]

Everyone is under investigation at this point some legally, others illegally (by dispatch)

[night niche]

njz leaving hybe being the defying gravity scene

[night niche]

watch me cook
elphaba -> NJZ
glinda -> maybe “newjeans”
wizard of oz -> bang pd
madame morrible -> min hee jin
fiyero -> bunnies
munchkins -> kpop fans
citizens of oz -> general public

[cerulean lake]

never seen wicked but ur cooking based on the trailer i watched

[shrewd badger]

It's so obvious that belift wanted to use illit as a shield 😭 but their fans don't seem to understand that

[cerulean lake]

literally. i don’t get it too. i can understand that the first statement that ador put out was a bit distasteful but i believed MHJ had a valid point to make an internal complaint about the similarities between ILLIT and NJZ especially when it was the media and fandoms/general public that literally started that whole similarity rumor.

of course if HYBE suddenly started to use that event to lash out on her, it would make sense why she had to clarify her position and why she had to bring up ILLIT’s name. even if she didn’t mention them directly, people would literally know who she was talking about by context

[vapid turret]

Especially when their youngest members are still just kids.

Their Makne is only 16 just like Heyin.

[subtle matrix]

Very simple to understand

[vapid turret]

Srsly, enough with the fandom wars, we're just here to enjoy music and dances and stuff. Most of the idols out there debuted when they were children or still are children. And we're fighting over CHILDREN! YEASH!

[subtle matrix]

In the eyes of an illit fan it goes like this:

MHJ accuses Belift of plagiarism / Hanni accuses ILLIT manager of the "ignore her" incident
NJ fans start blowing up every single social media post by or related to ILLIT
ILLIT fans get angry at NJ fans and see MHJ/Hanni as the people responsible for starting it
ILLIT fans start blowing up every single social media post by or related to NJ

Doesn't matter if it was an internal complaint or a public press conference. Doesn't matter if the names were censored or not. It eventually became public, so that's how they will see it

[vapid turret]

Still can someone explain it to me in simple english about the Ador injunction? I saw a comment about it on reddit and I have no idea what it means cause I'm not well versed in lawsuit language.

[subtle matrix]

Which one?

[vapid turret]

The most recent one Here's what the comment said. "Since FRAUDOR won the injunction, the hate toward the girls has become overwhelming, not just internationally but in South Korea as well. It’s been only 6 hours since BBC News Korea uploaded this interview, and it already has 12K comments."

[frozen bronze]

i would not trust those comments, the channel names are far too suspicious

[vapid turret]

What? This was on the NJZ reddit.

[frozen bronze]

im talking about the comments under the bbc interview

[elfin solstice]

an injunction is court telling someone not to do something

[vapid turret]

Oh that makes sense so Ador is telling them to stop concerts until the lawsuit issue allows it.

[elfin solstice]

like in a intellectual property case/claim (like two competing newspapers trying to publish the same story), the injured party would seek an injunction to stop their activites

[heady gate]

The injunction temporarily prevents NJZ from performing or carrying out other commercial activities under their new name.

the word is Commerical Activities

[subtle matrix]

After NJ annonced they were unilaterally terminating their contract for violating the terms of the contract, ador filed a lawsuit to confirm the validity of the contract, and also requested an injunction so the court would prevent the girls from working independetly until the lawsuit is resolved

[vapid turret]

Oh so like doing ads and stuff.

[heady gate]

yes

[elfin solstice]

i guess anything that they would derive a profit from so like making music, ads, etc

[heady gate]

https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/newjeans-ambassadorships-ador-court-battle-1237062367/

[vapid turret]

GRRRRRRR! slams head on desk

Forking Ador, they want to be artists in peace.

[mild mist]

from the decision document:

Scope of Activities Under the Exclusive Contract
Musician Activities – Includes composing, lyric writing, performing, singing, and related appearances on broadcasts, events, and entertainment programs.

Commercial Activities – Includes negotiations and signing of advertising contracts, appearances in advertisements, and any commercial activities based on the artist’s public recognition.

[vapid turret]

I mean why couldn't they have debuted with another company instead? Hybe just LOOOOOOVES to screw over female groups.

[old cypress]

Basically the court is telling njz that they're still newjeans

[elfin solstice]

what about individual activities or would that be considered under musician activities

[cerulean lake]

i think both?

[old cypress]

The newjeans contract is still valid so they can't go solo either

[mild mist]

correct

The respondents must not engage in any entertainment activities listed in the annex, either personally (including through their legal guardians) or through any third party other than the petitioner, without the prior approval or consent of the petitioner.

[cerulean lake]

well they still have yet to discuss the validity of the termination and the contract but ig the court still sees it as ador being in charge of NJZ for now

smh i’m gonna go egg hybe’s building

[old cypress]

yes until the main lawsuit concludes. But the injunction can be overturned if njz appeals and wins

[cerulean lake]

yea i think the same judge is overlooking it so i fear he’s gonna have the same verdict unless there is concrete evidence from NJZ but we’ll see

[heady gate]

It may take several hearings.

[old cypress]

this is for the objection. The process is injunction -> objection -> appeal

[cerulean lake]

hmm okok is it a different judge for the appeal part?

[mild mist]

evidence is the #1 thing

[old cypress]

yeah should be a different judge for the appeal

[vapid turret]

God I hate lawsuits

[mild mist]

different judge, different court

[old cypress]

njz does have the evidence, it's mostly a problem of interpretation

[cerulean lake]

yeah i think collecting evidence needs to be their number 1 priority but their lawyers should also try to change their argument around w/ the evidence bc from what i see, the way you use ur evidence even if it’s “weaker” can make or break the verdict

[old cypress]

that's what they're doing, the lawyers are changing their strategy and welcomed outside help, because clearly they fucked up the injunction

[cerulean lake]

yeah it appears they were quite unprepared for the injunction or didn’t think that ador would be bringing up the points they did

[old cypress]

apparently they have evidence they've been keeping aside for the main lawsuit, it's a pity they didn't introduce them during the injunction

[subtle matrix]

It will be a higher court I assume

[cerulean lake]

hmm yeah i saw that ppl were discussing abt how this certain judge had a background in like financial stuff so he likes to consider the financial aspects of these cases

[subtle matrix]

I doubt they have evidence that was kept out of the injunction. They will have more evidence because they will be able to subpoena evidence during the trial but they probably don't have much more relevant evidence right now

[elfin solstice]

i think korea follows the american system where there's three levels of court but korea is also a civil system so there's no juries and everything is decided by a judge

[cerulean lake]

similar to MHJ’s 1st injunction too and how he looked at the financial aspect of whether she harmed ador or not

[elfin solstice]

oh and like the american appeals system there are three judges in the appeals court interesting

[subtle matrix]

Losing the injunction is incredibly damaging for NJZ. Not presenting all the evidence they have would be madness

[old cypress]

it's partly because each party only had a short moment to present their claims

[night niche]

korea has almost a completely different system than america

i think you guys should also read something important njz_pr posted when it comes to the injunction, i feel like some of you guys are missing something important when it comes to the collection of evidence

[cerulean lake]

yeah i understand that they had trouble collecting evidence from others or providing testimonies bc people were in fear of retaliation

and from what i’ve seen, lots of ppl are scared of retaliation especially if they’re going against some conglomerate (and we know how corruption is in korea)

[night niche]

yep exactly, so they could have a lot of evidence but they’re having a lot of hard time collecting it due to this fact unfortunately

[subtle matrix]

That cannot be a factor. They terminated their contract 4 months ago. What were their lawyers doing this whole time?

[cerulean lake]

the only time we were able to get something harmful to hybe’s reputation was when the NA provided and exposed those internal documents but bc the NA is of course a powerful gov entity in Korea, there’s less fear of retaliation for those ppl

i mean even the NA had to warn HYBE not to go after the person who leaked it to the NA

[old cypress]

no, during the court proceedings each party had 30min each to present their claims or something

[old cypress]

hybe's reputation is in the gutters already

[heady gate]

lol. When I found out, the K-pop stars are not considered workers under Korean Labor Standards Act. What type of joke is it?😅

[subtle matrix]

After presenting their claims they were able to submit evidence to be reviewed by the judge. They didn't have to present all the evidence during the hearing

[cerulean lake]

yeah but these internal docs did more damage

[old cypress]

Yes but as we can see the judge misinterpreted the evidence

[subtle matrix]

uh it's probably the same in America and everywhere else in the world

[cerulean lake]

yeah just submitting evidence and actually having the court hear ur argument w/ the evidence can lead to different interpretations

[young wyvern]

why would a judge intentionally misinterpret evidence

[frozen granite]

You’re saying that America doesn’t see artists as workers under labor laws?

[young wyvern]

if thats what youre implying i mean

[night niche]

right it’s ridiculous

[young wyvern]

no. most muscians are contractors. chappell roan's grammy speech was about this :(

[night niche]

it’s promise you it’s not 💀

[old cypress]

read the team bunnies statement from today https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1904766137986146818

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

Team Bunnies Statement: 03.26.2025
(EN translation)

X · Mar 26, 2025, 5:23 AM

[night niche]

yall have too much trust in korean judges

[young wyvern]

yes but its not an intentional misinterpretation. thats just how the legal process works. njz is going to appeal anyways. in general, id caution against thinking that the legal system is out against njz because its entering conspiracy theory terrority. the rule of law exists in korea (unlike america)

[night niche]

in cases against large companies you can’t really trust rule of law in korea, chaebols have significant influence

[old cypress]

korea is no different from america. Considering that the judge dismissed the obvious (ador being hybe's puppets) it's reasonable to think that there's intentional misinterpretation

If you read the injunction I think it'd be very obvious to you

[night niche]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Q84hNpwSwPEDLuRI4YGFJLksGYViRuvW i recommend you guys read my lack of legitimacy document

[frozen granite]

Guys I know it’s not Njz related, but it’s so cold rn & I love the weather

[subtle matrix]

It really is... Artists aren't employees. They just sign over the rights to their music for a fee

In kpop the relationship between artist and label is actually very akin to traditional employment, much more so than in the west

[young wyvern]

im cautioning against this line of thinking because fandom spaces perpetuate false info and rumors. fandoms think everyone is out to get them. but this isnt the case here. if you feel confident as i do that njz has a case and enough evidence to appeal the injunction then theres no reason to believe this. let the process play out.

we as a fandom are very much susceptible to baseless rumors and misinformation. njz has a lot of haters, but not everyone is out to them. hybe has a lot of power and $$$ but as far as i know theyre not chaebol status. they have to answer to shareholders, shareholders that know njz brings them tons of money. trust the process.

[subtle matrix]

Would be funny to see a western label trying to control their artists to the same level korean labels do

[night niche]

in america it moreso depends on the type of musical artist and the contract,
meanwhile in korea you could have the employee and employer type relationship and never be considered an employee, which is why the system is messed up, kpop companies can have almost full control over an artist and never be considered as “employees”

[night niche]

it’s happened before, look at sony with mariah carey, her ex husband was the ceo of her label

[night niche]

their thinking isn’t really based on misinformation, it’s just the simple fact of the way korea has dealt with big companies in the past and they have almost always been more lenient towards them, the simple sad, but true fact is that the korean court system suffers under corruption when it comes to cases like these, it’s not necessarily a means to lose hope though

[old cypress]

Once again, read the injunction fully and let us know what you think. Let's see if you still believe that the judge isn't being partial

And btw BSH is the majority shareholder (absolute majority) so hybe essentially has to answer to BSH and nobody else.

and the 2nd main shareholder is netmarble, owned by BSH's cousin

That's why they're able to engage HYBE in their petty quest to silence newjeans

[young wyvern]

it happens it different ways. western labels are shit to their artists too. that why sza had years between SOS and CTRL and megan thee stallion went independent

[night niche]

and taylor swift with scooter braun, who is unironically the ceo of hybe america

[subtle matrix]

Don't get me wrong there's a lot of messed up stuff in the western market, but korean labels turn it to 11000 in comparison

[young wyvern]

yup its so gross

[subtle matrix]

kpop artists saying stuff like they only have like 3 days off per year is so fucking bonkers

[night niche]

yep, mariah carey was just the worst case i could think of in the western market off the top of my head

[ashen charm]

America justice system and koreas are pretty as basic but if your a male in korea you usually get a slap on the wrist..

[night niche]

actually thinking about it more britney spears is also a good example

[heady gate]

The K-pop artists need a union. I am sure the K-pop organizations are going to against it.

[ashen charm]

Legit my whole feed is how njz are wrong like did they just ignore everything that there fighting for

[frozen granite]

Atp it seems that they will only get most public’s support if they win the objection or main lawsuit atp. No matter what they say anymore, people will only focus if their statements are being backed up by a judge or a higher up.

[old cypress]

I think the most of the public has grown to a point where they refuse to believe hybe's mediaplay and stopped tuning in

most of the negative comments these days are from older men in their 40s who are not the target demographics at all

[upper solstice]

a lot of cope

[old cypress]

and their complexcon live had 1M concurrent views

[frozen granite]

The girls could literally say they were being pointed with a knife, but it won’t matter if there’s no proof (which it’s with anything) hopefully they turn it around, but idk it’s not looking so good … all of the proof is at HYBE.

[subtle matrix]

They lost so all the haters are out there commenting

[waxen musk]

Thanks. Sorry I'm a bit late. I'll update it now.

[subtle matrix]

If they win the fans will be out there in force

[frozen granite]

I don’t think it’s necessarily just haters. Some of them just want actual proof. Even some tokkis

[waxen musk]

Updated schedule:
#1231839760759263232 message
Let me know if I missed anything.

[subtle matrix]

It's how it goes. People will move on

[frozen granite]

Yall should really watch unico btw

Reminds me of what we’re going through

[old cypress]

whenever i discuss with one of these, they turn out to be one of these hybe fandoms, there's no one else out there

everyone else is sick and tired of the drama and tuned out

[heady gate]

April 3 – ADOR vs. MHDHH: Exclusive contract validation trial. <--This may take several hearings.

[waxen musk]

It is impossible to backread this thread after a full day away lol

[heady gate]

I never backread this sub

[waxen musk]

I scroll through it quickly to see what links were posted. Toooooooo much yapping though.

[hoary frost]

thinking that this could take years makes me sick

[alpine matrix]

oh my god

[frozen granite]

Can someone check if the first q is accurate ?

[steep torrent]

*x -c https://x.com/nwjns1/status/1904793008966426963?s=46

lost my respect for this guy. liked his interview with them and erika man what a shame

[harsh dove]

@nwjns1 <t:1742973017:d>

I was always right about him and I hope when NJZ win, he never gets to interview them ever again

[vital orbit]

NJZ Update Data Scrapper anyone?

[knotty valve]

Fake af. I made sure to call him out on that video. How pathetic, just such a loser.

[cerulean lake]

wow that’s actually disappointing asf. i can’t believe how many ppl just switched up like that and if the girls ever do get out of this situation, i hope they only ever talk to ppl who fully believed in them afterwards.

[frozen granite]

Who even is that guy? Never seen him ? Was he supportive before ?

[cerulean lake]

he did like an english interview w them during omg era and also interviewed erika de casier, who did a lot of producing on their get up album. he def supported them but ig decided to do a whole 180 degree switch after the injunction 🙄

man i wish there was some concrete evidence of how hybe literally uses mediaplay for the worst intentions and also utilizes pr bots to damage the girl’s reputation. it’s pretty obvious w the way they suddenly acquired that TAG PR firm (during the drama last year) that was notorious for bashing amber heard, angelina jolie, and blake lively, who all suffered a lot of damage to their image. i think that would have been a clear breach of trust 😵‍💫

[ashen charm]

Are they foreal njz are not coming back

[frozen granite]

I think the reason why it seems more divided than ever it’s bc our fandom is also divided. I keep hearing that some tokkis want Njz to go back to ador bc they are scared their career might be over. I think the reason they were very hopeful was bc they expected the injunction results to go in NJZ’s favor but bc it wasn’t they are just more hopeless & suspicious

[rugged dagger]

it's a free extension though right?

[rugged dagger]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1904391073621053917?t=lQD6N1KpfOighSHow5PDrQ&s=19

Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

K and J BNZ have informed me that the antis are masquerading as fans and will be sending in Trucks, as well as starting a #hashtag trend for NJZ to come back to Ador.

This is a reminder that this does not come from the majority of K-J BNZ and to let all I-BNZ know that this is a

X · Mar 25, 2025, 4:33 AM

not everyone calling them to return to ador are real fans

[ashen charm]

Them extending it is giving false hope that njz will return to ador

[cinder narwhal]

i understand where they're coming from. it's not totally unreasonable. it could also be powered by hybe to divide the fandom

[ashen charm]

How do you sway people free stuff

[rugged dagger]

im surprised they didnt just start charging people

[ashen charm]

Let me login to my weverse to see if it actually got extended

[rugged dagger]

so maybe it is to encourage people to want them to stay

[frozen granite]

Can someone give some feedback on the answer from the first q? How accurate is it

[cinder narwhal]

btw i meant the clamor for them to go back not the free extension lol just incase

[ashen charm]

Nope not yet

[cinder narwhal]

it'll take effect 12pm kst today

[old cypress]

the message or its translation?

[tardy smelt]

it's an optimistic answer

[frozen granite]

This part
** Some fans mistakenly believe that activities will cease until the main lawsuit concludes or that the appeal process will take a long time. However, there are still remaining legal procedures, and if a swift appeal is requested, the decision may come sooner. If no unexpected delays occur, we anticipate a ruling between late May and early June.**

Would the message be right ?

[cinder narwhal]

it's all ifs, so they're neither right nor wrong

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/njz_pham/status/1905057869625733373

[narrow seal]

250327 ditto akgae (@​njz_pham) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/njz_pham/status/1905057869625733373
Can you guys imagine a part timer who operates the botting feeling bad about the girls because this is what they’re ordered to do… He drops hints like this like yes this is astroturfing at its finest😭😭 #HYBE_TAG_PR

[frozen granite]

But is it accurate ?

[copper current]

man, anyone has some money to spend for NJZ?

~t https://x.com/diorkitty_0515/status/1905029816006619324

[narrow seal]

250326 supernatural | NJZ REDEBUT 🏎️🏁 (@​diorkitty_0515) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/diorkitty_0515/status/1905029816006619324
NJZ interview: 370k views, 20k comments.

CNN video of former SK president declaring Martial Law: 2.3M views, 8.4k comments.

• This is a video where people all over the world voice their concerns and opinions.

They’re not even trying to hide it. So desperate and dirty by Hybe.

[old cypress]

they're just saying that if the appeal's outcome is favorable, njz will be back

[frozen granite]

Idk if these are really bots atp, I know they are just numbers to which it might not be significant to most of you, but Njz has lost 10k followers since Saturday. Around 3k a day.

Just pointing out that whatever is going on is def taking a toll on our fandom & the credibility of their case.

[copper current]

any rich bunnies out there can spend funds for tag PR to positive reverse for our girls?

[old cypress]

hybe owns tag pr

[cinder narwhal]

i think you need to step back from this

[frozen granite]

We just need a few strong tokki TikTok accounts, idk why team bunnies doesn’t invest some people in that

[cinder narwhal]

for your mental health

[copper current]

Yes, there are multiple public relations firms with "TAG" in their names, distinct from The Agency Group PR LLC (TAG PR) acquired by HYBE. Here are a few examples:​
LinkedIn
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Hindustan Times
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The Tag Experience: Based in Miami, this PR firm specializes in corporate and lifestyle public relations, media relations, influencer marketing, and event planning. ​
thetagexperience.com

TAG Publicity: A full-service entertainment publicity agency offering talent development, branding, digital marketing, social media management, and distribution services. ​
thetagexperience.com
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TAG Media
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TAG Media Agency: Founded in 2021 and headquartered in Houston, Texas, this boutique digital media and marketing agency provides services such as marketing, branding, social media management, website development, SEO, and email marketing. ​
TAG Media

TAG PR (Australia): Specializing in servicing marketing, advertising, media businesses, and related technology companies, this firm operates primarily in Australia, New Zealand, and the wider Asia-Pacific region. ​
LinkedIn

These firms operate independently and are not affiliated with The Agency Group PR LLC acquired by HYBE.

Chatgpt answers

[ashen charm]

tiktok might get banned again so its a lost cause

[copper current]

millionaire bunnies, please do charity to save our girls, positive PR please 🙏

[old cypress]

I don't think it's a good idea to waste money in dirty tactics

[copper current]

it is not dirty, how else we counter machine? humans cannot fight them. Machine fight machine is better, i worked with AI, I think we should use AI fight with AI

[old cypress]

the best way to fight misinformation is to document and fact check

[frozen granite]

It is? When?

[night niche]

i agree, this seems to be taking some pretty big tolls on some of yalls mental health, remember you come first

[old cypress]

yeah if you start counting instagram followers it's time to step back a little

[copper current]

I don't care about numbers, NJZ can gain back if they come back. I remember Jennie was hated badly at the begining of BP and look at her now.

[frozen granite]

Wow I just saw someone compared njz to the burning sun scandal … ok maybe this is time to step back

[copper current]

🤮 this is what took it too far, seriously disgusting

Now you guys told me to play it right, we need machine to counter Hybe machine, rich bunnies where are you???

[frozen granite]

It was on TikTok & I immediately reported it bc wtf

[night niche]

i wouldn’t worry about tiktok being banned just yet… cause of mr. trump 💀

[cerulean lake]

yeah there was a reddit commenter that compared seungri to NJZ. people are very deranged

[night niche]

he might sign another executive order it boost his pr

[ashen charm]

april 10th

[copper current]

If we can destroy Hybe control of tag pr then we can counter attack with facts and check faster or else more people will be brainwashed with these ridiculous lies

[frozen granite]

Yeah that’s what I saw too on TikTok .. this is literally nuts you guys I can’t believe this is where it led us to

[cerulean lake]

ik you like following those numbers and it’s expected for them to lose followers especially if misinfo is at its peak. but i feel like it’s also fairly unlikely (w/o bots) for a 10k lost in supporters to translate into like 30k hate comments on a youtube vid that has less views than a vid of the president literally declaring martial law

[night niche]

yall gotta take breaks off of social media 💔

[frozen granite]

Yeah I guess so idk I guess I’m just feeling bad for the girls & all of this sucks bc they were the group I got into kpop again

[night niche]

right and on top of this youtube already has a huge bot problem outside of the NJZ situation, you can’t really open up any comment section of a popular youtube video anymore without at least seeing one bot, mix this in with hybe’s media play and this happens

[cerulean lake]

yeah unfortunately i went onto twt again today bc of the tweet sent above where that interviewer all of a sudden switched up and i was fairly disappointed..but it was a good reminder that the whole kpop social media cleanse thing im doing rn is for the better

[cerulean lake]

yeah youtube is literally infiltrated with bots now. it’s so frustrating. plus i feel like a lot of these bots are so inappropriate and youtube does nothing 😭

[copper current]

Hey, don't feel down. I am highly spirited. I am trying all of way and thinking of every way to help them. When I see evil, I become more hype since I want to reveal them

[copper current]

that is why we need machine to counter the bots

Developer bunnies, anyone is capable?

[night niche]

as a black girlie long before the situation with NJZ happened i’ve been cleansing my social media of kpop except NJZ because the kpop community at large is very racist and has a large amount of issues, and people will try to gaslight you into thinking it’s not 💀

[cerulean lake]

wish it could be that easy but it’s gonna be difficult to counteract some conglomerate that has a dedicated company that does mediaplay for them. not to mention that the company they acquired is extremely good at manipulating the public

[cerulean lake]

yeah the kpop community is cooked. and i’m not saying that other communities are good but there has to be a reason why kpop fans are so notorious for what they do and why locals are turned off by them..

[copper current]

the recent music is bleh, I am not very interested

[night niche]

yep, all fandoms have their different issues, but kpop is a different type of nonsense with all the different little niches within the community. there’s a reason why most people are turned off when they hear the words “kpop stan”

[cerulean lake]

true. even as a kpop stan, this whole drama has completely made me feel turned off by the whole community too. such a hypocritical and two-faced community imo. of course, not gonna generalize everyone like that but just basing it off of the people i see on social media.

[ashen charm]

clearly mybe boting

[cerulean lake]

ik the public opinion in korea probably shifted on the worser side after the injunction, but does anyone know if they still have ample support there?

ik a lot of these vids have bots so i can’t accurately judge the common consensus. just hoping they still have a support system there especially when the international side is cooked as of now.

[copper current]

I am tunred off by the inequality of treatment between Korean men and women. Men can be let go so easily whereas women and female celebrities are being nitpicked even with gestures or the smallest thing for hate

~t https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1905074519888318855

[narrow seal]

250327 NJZ Enthusiast (@​haerinthequeenn) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1905074519888318855
The Incheon Airport contract reached its expiration date with the banner at the airport so it’s been removed but this is worst time expect them to mediaplay this in the worst way possible it’s the Shinhan Bank incident all over again

[cerulean lake]

upsetting that a lot of times, it’s also other females attacking these female celebrities and shielding their male favs instead

[copper current]

Female should unite, female can defend other females the best 🙏

[cerulean lake]

hmm seems like their seoul ambassador contract ended?? ugh i just know those other fandoms are gonna make it seem like sk has completely bailed on the girls

[frozen granite]

That fast? How long was BP’s banner there ??

[tardy smelt]

L after L, can't catch a break lol

[hot girder]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-hentschel-choking-purple-danhentschel-gif-13592007489649523190

[copper current]

It is fine, NJZ know it will be a tough fight and they bravely accept it. I love their spirits.

[heady gate]

NJ appointed as Incheon Airport Headquarters Customs Public Relations Ambassadors on March 22, 2024.

[copper current]

I hope there will be more interviews on news with NJZ. I want to see them 🙏

[cerulean lake]

so was the contract terminated or ended?

[hot girder]

https://vxtwitter.com/jeans0722sweet/status/1905057044450926812?t=1z_BYOJ9rtY1CSna2IT7jA&s=19

[cerulean lake]

either way, they can’t do much without ador’s permission now regarding outside contracts so it’s bounded to be this way

[tardy smelt]

shouldn't expect it, more appearances will just keep the flames lit until something changes for the better

[cerulean lake]

https://x.com/njzbubblegum/status/1904915400082469343?s=46&t=Owha5td1vcjrgVjmcEBwWg

have no idea if this is even true but i wish. omg need to get off twt

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

Did you know? Once the political turbulence in Korea settles down, HYBE will be summoned to the National Assembly again. This time, along with their loyal dog Lee Jin-ho.

X · Mar 26, 2025, 3:16 PM

[copper current]

Can indomie heir who is fan of NJZ sponsor some funds for positive pr for NJZ? just my delusion

[cerulean lake]

i think the son of the guy who made indomie was a fan 😭

[copper current]

When the national assembly is still in tact, there was a politician who asked to help Hanni visa issue, I love that polician. National assembly is the best, please punish corruption

[steel depot]

please make hybe go bankrupt

[copper current]

Indomie heir, if you are here among NJZ fans, I summon you, please help NJZ with positive pr

[cerulean lake]

there’s def probably still corruption in the NA and w/ other ministries but i’m hoping there’s a second recurrence of when hybe got exposed for those internal docs

[cerulean lake]

wish i could see this but they have so much political backing that even the the agencies can’t investigate them for embezzlement

[copper current]

yeah, it was so good seeing the internal doc being revealed and hybe was peeled like onions

[cerulean lake]

yeah we were seeing some hope during that time but these past weeks have been a living hell

[heady gate]

Did the old Ador corp under MHJ carry any debt?

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/diorkitty_0515/status/1905078304077725961

[narrow seal]

250327 supernatural | NJZ REDEBUT 🏎️🏁 (@​diorkitty_0515) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/diorkitty_0515/status/1905078304077725961
NJZ interview has 427k views, 23k comments. 23,000 COMMENTS IN JUST 17 HOURS. We know why.

[copper current]

It is such a shame. I studied his machine learning course, a cool professor about AI. I didn't wish for him did such bad deed

[cinder narwhal]

? what does that even mean

are people just jumping to conclusions now

[old cypress]

yeah i'm not sure what this guy has to do with hybe using bots

[copper current]

he taught AI and you can use AI to generate clever answers. It is like chatgt, you just use key token and build an app and it can generate hundred of answers for you like chatgpt

[old cypress]

and?

[steel depot]

is he like tag pr?

[copper current]

like I said AI can generate comments in speedy time

[old cypress]

what does this have to do with that person?

[copper current]

https://www.pr.co/blog/ai-in-pr

[old cypress]

everyone can use ai and bots, let's not waste our time on the wrong people

[heady gate]

hold on. Why is everyone thought Andrew Ng is working for BSH? It is just 1 photo together.

[steel depot]

it's like something tag pr would use but yes we shouldn't jump into conclusion

[old cypress]

that account is just wearing a tinfoil hat

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/_jaznam/status/1905092404446953788

[narrow seal]

250327 NONGHANZ 🪿 (@​_jaznam) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/_jaznam/status/1905092404446953788
🗣️ LEAVE NEWJEANS COMMUNITY 🗣️
🗣️ DELETE WEVERSE ACCOUNT 🗣️

[heady gate]

I think BSH attended an AI conference and took a picture with him.

[hot girder]

yeah but that's a bit of a stretch to hold him accountable for what's happening right now

[copper current]

hey everyone, asked @BBCNewsKorea_u to close comment section in their video

[copper current]

ok, saw someone posted it and thought too much then, hopefully he didn't help.

[cinder narwhal]

let's stop dragging unconfirmed people into this it's very dangerous

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/bborbnz/status/1905085295349145680

[narrow seal]

250327 bbor🧢 | NJZ PIT STOP (@​bborbnz) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/bborbnz/status/1905085295349145680
https://t.co/fEFUu06iyl

[copper current]

there are smart tokkies who asked to disable comments in BBC, credit to
PoppyKPoppie

[cinder narwhal]

someone's making a newjeans/njz/ador timeline, soon in english
https://fixupx.com/uimn123/status/1904928262255763813

nJZ (@uimn123)

💬 1 🔁 4 ❤️ 28 👁️ 2.6K

FixupX · Mar 26, 2025, 4:07 PM

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1905096886639628451 oh the trucks are up looool

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

These trucks aren’t from Bunnies. They’ve pulled this stunt before, and it didn’t work—but they’re trying again because it shows just how little they think of us and our bond with NJZ.

Don’t fall for these manipulations.

This is HYBE and ADOR’s biggest push yet—a desperate

X · Mar 27, 2025, 3:17 AM

[cinder narwhal]

https://n.news.naver.com/article/422/0000725197?sid=101

[copper current]

it is better to put in a website, I lost stuffs because I have so many bookmarked tweets

*xhttps://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1905101352243445984

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

TOKKIS: PLEASE START LEAVING COMMENTS ON THE YT VIDEO ASKING BBC TO DISABLE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TO DO. DON'T RESPOND TO BOTS/TROLLS. JUST KEEP ASKING BBC TO DISABLE COMMENTS.

X · Mar 27, 2025, 3:35 AM

*xhttps://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1905100808506466689

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

fake support. fake trucks. fake statements. fake hashtags. fake promotions. fake promises. fake evidences. fake ass people. this is ador/hybe.
do not be fooled.
these are NOT BUNNIES.

X · Mar 27, 2025, 3:33 AM

[short laurel]

So much hate that they willing to spend money on it. So much shamelessness

[surreal raft]

what’s going on AGAIN

[copper jetty]

Antis and Hybe sending trucks to Hybe to pressure NJZ to return. Lmao.... we know this though when they wanted to trend that hashtag.

Also to divide bunnies.

[orchid field]

the girls aren't going nowhere near that building they put those trucks for who to see exactly LMAO

[zenith bane]

some programmer can scrape the comments, upvotes, username, and view the account followers, when the account joined/created (pre/post court decision) and have a population report showing how many comment users are likely bots

[cerulean lake]

ok glad that they at least clarified that the contract was near its expiration date and that it’s not terminated. i do see antis using this as a way to say that they’re officially over in korea tho

[old cypress]

it's likely that they are unable to renew due to the ongoing lawsuit so antis will still say that njz are over

[ashen charm]

Why would I delete my weverse account ?

[frozen granite]

I miss njz

[cerulean lake]

i mean it’s clear that they won’t renew bc NJZ can’t sign independent contracts and they’re not gonna submit under Ador we know that those antis using that narrative are not that bright

[old cypress]

yep

[stiff prairie]

So besides the anticipated anti truck protests, update on Ls is airport deal is probably not getting renewed? I assume it's diff to national tourism ambassadorship

[polar owl]

Sorry, I am not even tuning in to what's happening until the end if this week - it's too overwhelming to process the amount of hate which is being manufactured against the girls on socials.

[ashen charm]

Sending trucks to a building that njz don't even in habit anymore
Oh there making this to easy for njz to win

[frozen granite]

Spanish speaking tokki summarized the bbc video in Spanish. Share to tokkis who only speak Spanish & are not informed well. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT27HmnUR/

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/soyamoyas/status/1904895663865029101

[narrow seal]

250326 soy 🏎️🏁 (@​soyamoyas) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/soyamoyas/status/1904895663865029101
maybe we need a gc for coordinated PR -- no sh00ting -- ignore delusional haters... just strategize on how to get njz's story seen and championed...

[orchid field]

Stay strong everybody we have each other

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1905122069467004932

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

X · Mar 27, 2025, 4:57 AM

[half knot]

the media barrage since the injunction loss is really extreme

[cerulean lake]

interesting. so ig their banner is still staying up for now 🧐

[cerulean lake]

yeah it’s so unfortunate but was expected. that was honestly one of my main concerns regarding all of this legal drama because if there was ever news of NJZ losing, i just knew the media and antis would spread misinfo and eat up all the mediaplay.

[tardy smelt]

W i guess, we take them where we can

[half knot]

and even if it's taken down, so what, the contract has ended, everybody got paid, whatever.

[wary creek]

njz has banners at the airport, haters have trucks in front of hybe

[storm warren]

if contract expires this month, they will have to take it down as it wont be renewed

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1905118678175117752

[narrow seal]

250327 NJZ Enthusiast (@​haerinthequeenn) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1905118678175117752
The importance of BBC News stepping in for NJZ it’s really good pressure if you know the history of BBC News once they commit to a story they commit to it and it can possibly go in the history books globally

[cerulean lake]

yeah that’s pretty expected

[cerulean lake]

true seems simple but it’s just gonna be fuel for those stubborn antis once the banner is down 🙄😵‍💫

[cerulean lake]

was BBC the one who did that whole exposé regarding the burning sun scandal recently?

i remember there being a whole documentary

[zenith bane]

with all these recent negative comments and articles, lets see Ador's response to protect their artist... NJZ legal team has already responded to protect NJZ, even the fans have a legal response. Do something Ador.,

[kindred estuary]

yep

[frozen bronze]

i was considering doing this

[stiff prairie]

Can't win a fight against numbers. If they're still there antis will hate comment about why they don't want entitled brats' photos up on walls of the airport, start hashtag trends etc

[jolly junco]

i trust time will tell the truth i dont care what the antis do and say on the internet

i'm trying to find a game so i can distract myself from the antis

[cerulean lake]

yeah it might be good to have some foreign and big media company that’s willing to dig deep into this and portray NJZ’s side, and not only follow whatever HYBE has to say, which is what all these major korean media companies are doing smh

[jolly junco]

also guys please if you guys have any important interview/updated news related to the court, tag jhinn so he can pinned it

[stiff prairie]

Everyone bcots newjeans/njz > hybe sees them valueless > lets them go for few bucks > we start as nugujeans fr > profit
my delulu

[jolly junco]

if only i can control everyone's action in this world.....

[stiff prairie]

I would just control judge's actions. Don't need anyone else's

[jolly junco]

https://tenor.com/view/build-jakapan-delulu-gif-7202883075778887592

[odd ridge]

i was told to come here

but heres my statemnt :
new jeans is under sm controvery idk what to do anymore do i stan them or and i keep seeing stuff abt my bias (hanni) being the villain in this and ruining the career of illit and lying and idk if i wanna stan them or be hanni biased IDKIDK IDK

[stable escarp]

NJZ is not the villain, Hybe/Ador is. Illit's career is not being ruined BY Hanni, she never mentioned them. Hanni is not lying, trust that all the information has not been revealed since it has only been an injunction.
Reliable information can be found in this thread.

[stiff prairie]

First thing first, you should do what your heart tell u to do. Secondly u should look up legit sources for what ppl are saying about your faves and not gather opinions from TikTok or yt drama channels. You can look up the first live stream. She said nothing bad about illit. She said that they greeted each other and THEN the manager came up and told illit members to ignore her. It was about belift manager, never about illit themselves. But they got hate yes and so did njz members. But it's up to u at the end of the day.

[odd ridge]

we hate hybe no matter thats outta the question but apparently they found footage of hanni and illit interacting in the hybe building and illit cleared bowed to them and one of the members even did a 90 degree bow and then hanni said that "she forgot the incident"

[empty halo]

every few months, different kpop stans find new villains to target, at one point it was Jennie of BLACKPINK and at one point it was Wonyoung. This too, will pass lmao as they find a new young woman to target

[odd ridge]

and idk abt the walking out of the court after hearing laughing

[odd ridge]

i still love hanni and njz but i js want smth legit to hold onto to so i can back myself up

do i have an essay coming

[empty halo]

Hanni never said illit didn't bow to her. Hanni said her and the members of the group who's manager asked the group to ignore her (never naming illit) greeted each other as they would normally, but then the manager of this group told the members to "ignore her". So yes, they did bow to each other 90 degrees and Hanni never said anything that contradicts that

[stiff prairie]

"she forgot the incident" is a lie made up by antis. She remembered the Manager's word completely however an illit member said something along the lines of agreeing to the Manager's order which she didn't remember exact words for. AND hanni said in the same texts that she understands where the illit members response was coming from since they have to listen to their managers and managers of ador and belift hated each other back then. But as u can see her words were taken out of context to give different meanings so it's easier to spread hatred

[odd ridge]

thanks yall 😭

[stable escarp]

If anything focus on your studies knowing everything will be okay. All this drama is genuinely mentally draining.

[empty halo]

there are quite a few legit things, you just seem to be getting ur info from the wrong sources that mistranslate and misunderstand things to frame Hanni and NJZ as villains

[empty halo]

AND it'll be forgotten in a year or so

[odd ridge]

i js wanna know because i need to know whether i need to unstan sm ppl before it becomes a jaeil or soodiehyun

[stable escarp]

Those are VERY different matters 😭 they are much more serious than this.

[empty halo]

girly pop, even if these girls are lying, what they would be doing is by NO MEANS comparable to what those men did 😭😭😭😭

[odd ridge]

and i dont want to do that because i love hanni with all my heart 😭😭 im trying my best to have solid proof before making any statements

ok that was a very bad example but u get what i mean

[stable escarp]

Then keep loving her! The girls are fighting for their dreams

[empty halo]

thats good! This servers a good enough place to clear out misunderstandings

[empty halo]

that their reputations will be ruined forever and their careers will end? Nah not at all, as I said, this is just your yearly kpop hate train against some targetted young woman/women. It's rlly rough but it'll pass

as they find some new ones to shit on for a while and then its not fun anymore

[stable escarp]

Praying for the day the public gets a wakeup call and Korean system as well. We gotta be evolving not de-evolving 😔

[empty halo]

I doubt that's ever gonna happen 🙏

[split bramble]

hybe orchestrated plenty of hate against blackpink members too and they continue to get hate domestically but zero affect on their career, they're all global stars now

whenever njz can return they'll do so as pop stars so nobody should care what incel land thinks about them

[empty halo]

THATS EXACTLY WHAT IM SAYING, kpop stans and HYBE orchestrate hate campaigns against female idols every once in a while, IT SLOWS DOWN EVENTUALLY

I can see the hate train against NJZ being more intense bc they DIRECTLY r hurting HYBE and their reputation but it's not over like at all

[stiff prairie]

Before njz I wasn't that much into kpop, I just used see bp getting hate from the side. But those hate wasn't up to this magnitude I think. Probably first time own company's dedicated pr outlet, 3 dedicated fandom, right wingers joining hands to shit on 5 girls. Ppl might fall for it by following the loud and vocal mass online or they might see it how it is fr and support them more. It's still inconclusive

[frozen granite]

Praying we all wake up with a better day tomorrow 📿

[jolly junco]

trust hanni, trust the girls, you are eating up at HYBE mediaplay against hanni

[wary creek]

news tomorrow?

[jolly junco]

hybe is releasing new articles about "newjeans" everyday all day

[vital orbit]

try playing "together" with ur friends on roblox

[jolly junco]

bruh roblox is for children i'm too old for that

[vital orbit]

it is not

roblox is working on 17+ only games anyways

[jolly junco]

still, i'm too old for that game

[vital orbit]

are you 60?????

[stiff prairie]

Play first person shooter games and imagine hybe when u see opps

[jolly junco]

i was cut from a different fabric

[stiff prairie]

My cycle of life these days seems like wake up depressed and sad, then try to stay distracted w other things till the day ends and repeat

[rain spade]

https://tenor.com/view/yep-pepe-pepe-yep-gif-18726156

[cinder narwhal]

i cant get over roblox graphics

[short laurel]

i wanna make it clear since bunnies have been simping intl media alot, while BBC is supporting njz in this, BBC isn't really good media either and has been major source of misinformation about other cultures throughout the world.

[wary creek]

at this point i'm wondering what media outlet can you trust

[short laurel]

that's the thing, no media outlet is trusted. NON. but bunnies have been simping intl media, jeff from billboard too has politically biased reports.

[half knot]

journalism is dead. it's all fake news 🙂 the orange man was right about one thing I guess

[short laurel]

they are supporting njz so that's the only good thing from our prospective.

[short laurel]

it has been dead for decades. 🙂

[craggy skiff]

I have funny argument with a fearless and gliit after she messing under pitstop tiktok video
She claim that hanni lie about the ignore problem bcs illit in japan that day
When I ask her for any proof could prove that, the only thing she give me announcement they on JWave that day
After check that show only 3 minute voice chat, I said that with that voice, they dont ever need to come to jp, just record at hybe is enough
She starting turn to claim hanni said illit don't greet her at first. When I ask for proof, she keep say that why bunnies harass her group at the begin
I don't know if I should continue arguing with them because I feel like they are trying to bring me down to their level and then beat me with their experience.

[wary creek]

lol then has journalism ever been alive

it probably was even more bias in the past

[short laurel]

yea actually. it's rare but true journalism happens. ofc they are always biased cuz they are human. but as long as it's their own words and not reports coming from political prospective or racism prospective. but yea rare.

i felt like i needed ot say that cuz bunnies were taking everything from BBC, CNN and billboard and jeff as 100% true source or something even in things other than njz.

[cinder narwhal]

this is too cynical for my tastes

[wary creek]

crazy thing is that njz or mhj never had a problem with illit. They were always talking about their management team and hybe.

[craggy skiff]

I said that too.
And her answer always: but bunnies harass us first 💀
sound like they not lurking and trash talk under our post

[half knot]

that's saying something coming from you

the only good thing about foreign media coverage is pressure, but otherwise these outlets are all messed up as far as news and journalism goes.

[stiff prairie]

I've seen those tiktok arguments a lot. It always goes on same circle. Pointless tbh

Actually no. Some ppl needs to keep them checked or they'll keep spreading it like gospel. Uninformed ppl already believe it too

[short laurel]

Dw when uninformed ppl c that it's kpop, they just c it as everyday thing n move on not caring about it.
Meanwhile those who are interested in kpop c it's hybe, c it as everyday army fanwar(they have problems with every fandom) n move on not caring about it.

[stiff prairie]

Still neutral ppl seeing the same thing again and again will develop a subconscious bias. If the hate train stopped quickly that'd be one thing. Like how ppl almost forgot about what hybe internal docs said about other idols. And with court dates coming up every couple of months it new hate train every time

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1905149372431556742

[narrow seal]

250327 Cake🍀 (@​CakeDegg) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1905149372431556742
ADOR has gone after bunnies for copyright infringement over selling album photocards on platforms
https://weibo.com/5668259279/5148758065026007

[jolly junco]

-wow

[tall dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948917817724514325/1321794033252700273/241225-mo9uHR-1871897595670589746-1.mp4?ex=676e881f&is=676d369f&hm=4f411bc3a25c214d726cf9c0c1797719f0db62e18658370cdee56b9557aee58d&

[stiff prairie]

what exactly do they gain from it

[cinder narwhal]

tf they're second hand

[craggy skiff]

lmao

[jolly junco]

they are harassing NJZ fans

NJZ fans who got harassed from ADOR --> get annoyed --> decided to forget about NJZ and not get involved --> ador reach their goal

i've been telling people in this discord since last year, HYBE really want to divide our fandom
they want us to feel tired and mentally drained so we will leave the girls alone

once that happens, the girls wont have any support system anymore

[stiff prairie]

it'll just get them to hate ador more that's all

[half knot]

I'm just saying, they're gonna go after tikkitokki next

that content better be backed up somewhere

[stiff prairie]

but yeah harassing the fandom seems like a quarterly goal they set up. copyright claiming on fan channels is something i'd never think a kpop company will do but they did it

[jolly junco]

i'm sure they are backed up

i dont think they can claim copyright on tikkitokki video, that phoning call are free for everyone after a few days

[stiff prairie]

yeah but they can be sleazy. "they're free to watch on our phoning app that was built with love and hardship"

also learn korean while at it u anti korean mentality ppl. it's a new hate topic i gathered from the bbc and time yt vid comments.

[hollow sorrel]

ADOR ran out of content we cheered!!!

[half knot]

they are free to view but they are still ador copyrighted content and the terms of service explicitly mentions no reproduction

[red thorn]

This discord too in no time
Better praise bsh from now on

[half knot]

that one might be harder, discord only nukes for very extreme reasons

[heady gate]

https://www.elle.com.au/culture/entertainment/new-jeans-court-case-explained/

[cinder narwhal]

btw is there any safe space aside from discord? pannchoa comsec has turned too lol

[stiff prairie]

bbor on twitter cause she's just in it for the memes

[cinder narwhal]

i meant forums and the likes

[stiff prairie]

[half knot]

the time of forums for kpop passed like over a decade ago.

[wary creek]

then everybody is just in their bubbles

[half knot]

it's okay to accept one is too old now

no more irc, no more forums, no more msn, yahoo, icq, and soon, no more skype.

[wary creek]

crazy how fan clubs had to meet in person back in the day

[stiff prairie]

we are on the platform that more or less displaced all of them

[hollow sorrel]

Is there a press conference about Kim Soohyun today???

[half knot]

already happened

[cinder narwhal]

God nvm 😭

[red thorn]

I guess any public forum just gonna be prone to that
Any njz fanbase forum is the safe space

[stiff prairie]

they still do tho. during members' bday and other special occasions

[hollow sorrel]

let’s hope it shifts kmedia away from NJZ 🙏🏻

[red thorn]

Oh wait how's reddit NewJeans/njz

[half knot]

it's decent

[short laurel]

half of those still exists and in use.

[half knot]

well, only IRC and some forums exist. the rest are all dead. Skype dies on May 2nd.

[short laurel]

yahoo still exists. msn too xD

[half knot]

MSN messenger and Yahoo chat is what I meant

kpop forums are effectively dead or just remnants though

[wary creek]

so i'm normally on reddit

[short laurel]

ahh

[cinder narwhal]

i just meant someplace else safe for nj talk when i get tired of you guys

[wary creek]

but the njz sub doesn't have much activity

[stiff prairie]

other njz discords

[half knot]

like if you want to get a sense of just how active forums were back in the day, look at number of topics and replies https://www.soshified.com/forums/
and it used to have a discord-like active real-time chat shoutbox too.

[short laurel]

yes. irl. tkae break when u get tired of here.

[red thorn]

#newjeans-chat

[cinder narwhal]

tbh there are others here who need the break more than me

[half knot]

well you can always go form that private military mercenary corps to take out hybe during your free time

[short laurel]

u just need funds

[half knot]

sorry I watched "A Shop for Killers" k-drama on Disney+ lol

[cinder narwhal]

that channel is just pic tiktok spam lol

[wary creek]

watch 'Dream' 2023 movie

[subtle matrix]

Don't make me feel old by mentioning msn messenger please

[half knot]

you are now so old that MSN Messenger's replacement, Skype, which Microsoft bought and killed MSN Messenger in favor of, is now dying.

[cinder narwhal]

I've watched that, currently waiting on wlgyt

[half knot]

In favor of Microsoft Teams.

[subtle matrix]

Worst bag fumble I've ever seen

[half knot]

there are very few brands that become a common term, and skype was one of them, what a mess Microsoft, smh

[mild mist]

Okay, Windows Live Messenger then

[half knot]

Games For Windows Lives

[red thorn]

Microsoft gonna make social platform for njz
Njz messenger

[half knot]

god Microsoft sucks at naming. This is tangentially NJ related of course https://x.com/Windows/status/1905024464426786952

Windows (@Windows) on X

the perfect wallpaper doesn't exis-

X · Mar 26, 2025, 10:30 PM

https://x.com/Windows/status/1904989941433561581

Windows (@Windows) on X

@Matttokki we'll always come through for hanni 💖

X · Mar 26, 2025, 8:12 PM

[stiff prairie]

btw what is up with windows twitter simping for njz lately

[cinder narwhal]

👵🏾

[half knot]

the sns poster probably just karma farming and is secretly a tokki too

[stiff prairie]

their social media manager for twitter might be a closeted tokki

[steel depot]

what's with the fan club extension? I'm getting triggered. I just don't get it; the girls are not coming back whatever they do

sorry for bringing this up if you guys have already talked about it

[half knot]

they're trying to trick bunnies to switch to windows 11 and buy into their AI crap so they can control your minds!

[red thorn]

I respect the effort

[wary creek]

Bill Gates is a tokki

[stiff prairie]

gonna keep using windows 10 till i get infected w some virus due to them not updating

[half knot]

ador has to keep up the facade of newjeans still is part of the company, for the sake of the shareholders and the court cases.

[subtle matrix]

Mega corporations using their twitter accounts to sound relatable and cool is so cringy ngl. It worked for Wendy's and now everyone copies it

[half knot]

Wendy's food sucks now though 😦 not that it was ever great, but it's considerably worse now

[wary creek]

i agree

i ordered some food from wendy's and it was cold

[half knot]

some of the new workers don't even know what asiago cheese is.

[wary creek]

and the nuggets suck

[copper jetty]

Hopefully he probably has a few billion dollars lying around that we could scrape to get that NJZ freedom eh

[stiff prairie]

i'm fed up with duolingo tiktoks. it was fun the first time now it's just cringe

[stiff prairie]

better chance of apple doing that if at all

[copper jetty]

Guys lmao what do you think of Ador extending the weverse membership for free???

There's no content, only benefit I could see with this is they'll keep milking the merchs.

[stiff prairie]

also the narrative of this many ppl still wants newjeans not njz?

[copper jetty]

What narrative? I didn't know they had that 💀

[stiff prairie]

i mean they might say in court that so many ppl still subscribed to this which means they want njz to be in ador

[wary creek]

newest content: [jeans zine] going to court

[stiff prairie]

waiting for that court day fit check

[steel depot]

behind the scene

i wish everything was just a roleplay

[stable escarp]

OMG i need them to do the hype boy meme leaving court when they finally win

[wary creek]

oh yeah it would be a behind lol

[stiff prairie]

or the eta meme. hyein haein vs minji hanni dani cause... u know...

[stable escarp]

I need them to milk the win and our fandom rubbing it in their face. No shame here

[stiff prairie]

it'll take so long i might not even have the energy left to do that

[split bramble]

a bunch of new stuff about kim soo hyun got released, so expect new round of intense mediaplay against njz or some other women to bury this scandal

[stiff prairie]

or if luck is with us it might take a bit of hate away from njz too

[short laurel]

which shareholders. they only have like 3 or 4. with 2 in dispute hybe and mhj.

ador caring alot about hybe's 80% shares while wanting to give nothing to mhj 18% shares.

https://x.com/Windows/status/1904641406271881232 dani

Windows (@Windows) on X

@nujeaned our princess danielle 🐰

X · Mar 25, 2025, 9:07 PM

[hot girder]

ador suing fans for selling their merch is crazy

[short laurel]

fan made merch or reseller what they brought ?

[hot girder]

official merch

[short laurel]

so fans reselling what they brought. ador just scaring people.

[storm warren]

photocards

[hot girder]

even if it was fanmade merch you can't copyright that, I mean you can, but it's just annoying for the sake of being annoying

and trading already brought merch is common amongst kpop fans so harassing people for this is even more stupid

[short laurel]

selling fanmade merch actually is illegal, it infringes copyright

reselling official merch however is legal as long as it's not in large amount, as seller has originally brought them with their own money from official store.

so ador is only scaring people, they can't really win in court over this.

[hot girder]

yea but you can't take them all down anyways, however here they went after people who trade official merch

[storm warren]

it was official pc

[short laurel]

yea, that's why i m saying they just scaring people. belift threatened to sue people who were commenting in support of mhj under that disgusting belift video. but they did nothing other than deleting comments.

[hot girder]

what a weird move lol

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1905193140769689740

[narrow seal]

250327 NJZ Enthusiast (@​haerinthequeenn) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1905193140769689740
Incheon Airport said do that again and we’ll take action with the Press Arbitration Commission

[stable escarp]

What da heck happened now

[short laurel]

all the media sites should be reported to press arbitration commission if they actualyl do anything cuz god media is so unfair towards njz

[tardy smelt]

kind of refreshing to hear someone has a spine

[short laurel]

can u give me a summary what happened that they made this annoucement ?

[stiff prairie]

Some ppl were saying about icheon airport not renewing their deal with njz and taking down posters or smth

[short laurel]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1905152849522364592 i saw this

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

Incheon Airport Customs Denies Plans to Replace NewJeans as Ambassadors: "No Plans to Remove Banner Photos"
https://t.co/lnz5IUAGsd
Newsis Reporter Hong Chan-seon

Appointed as Customs Ambassadors in March 2023… One-Year Contract

Incheon Airport Customs is currently reviewing

X · Mar 27, 2025, 7:00 AM

good thing they taking action. hybe mediaplay attacks have become daring targeting groups they shouldn't target

[stiff prairie]

but tbh in the end i think they will choose something else no? cause hiatus and everything

[hot girder]

apparently they want to extend the contact but they haven't talked it yet with ador and NJZ

[orchid field]

NJZ literally cant agree to extend the contract rn\

[tardy smelt]

they'll most likely have no choice but to change it, but it's good to hear it won't be a choice made against the members

[storm warren]

they should make aespa ambassador when it expires so bsh heart sinks every time he lands in incheon

[tardy smelt]

or who knows, maybe they'll keep it up for the lols

[orchid field]

Real

*x -c https://x.com/labelxth/status/1905147878227759462?s=46&t=FGOk5JcS6vsxMTTizzNPiQ

[harsh dove]

@Labelxth <t:1743057624:d>

Bunnies BNZ
Day One Now

[jolly junco]

nah, even better if MHJ is the ambassador
BSH might vomit blood everytime he landed in korea

[tardy smelt]

so tired, but f it we ball

[rain spade]

no plans to remove banners photo lesgoooo

[grizzled summit]

WHEN IS THE RETRIAL FOR INJUNCTION HAPPENING

[rain spade]

8th, 9th? Forgotten one of these

[grizzled summit]

kk

[jolly junco]

9th

[mild mist]

9th is the first day of the objection hearing / review

I don't know if there's more than one court date

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1905204208187650163

[narrow seal]

250327 Cake🍀 (@​CakeDegg) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1905204208187650163
Good news bbc Korea paused the comments

[jolly junco]

wow it actually works, the voice of netizens

[stiff prairie]

Thank fuck. But those 421 replies to the pinned comments looks eerie to me

Btw is that cakedegg from Twitter lol. Nvm the twt itself is cakedegg's didn't notice.

[jolly junco]

i dare you to open that 421 replies and read 15 out of it

[stiff prairie]

I did my due diligence yesterday. I don't need to go thru it again

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/soyamoyas/status/1905155872659308947

[narrow seal]

250327 soy 🏎️🏁 (@​soyamoyas) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/soyamoyas/status/1905155872659308947
HYBE stans have been caught in lies again. the reporters bribed by Hybe made lies so bad the Airport had to make a statement themselves

It’s only a matter of time the whole of Korea knows how disgusting hybe’s bribery is…

and when Yoon Sook Yeol is cleanly removed from power

[ashen charm]

ador might be the dumbest ive ever seen

[copper current]

*xhttps://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1905207551966498987

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

the fact that bbc kr took action and not only paused the comments, but they actually started deleting comments. and that's how you silence these ppl campaigning hard to smear NJZ's name.
NJZ and BNZ - 1
trolls, bots and TAGpr - 0

X · Mar 27, 2025, 10:37 AM

*xhttps://x.com/aarrttee01/status/1905196678912614686

.🩵 (@aarrttee01) on X

🚨끊임없이 NJZ 공격하는 기사쓰는 스포츠동아 허민녕,3월27일 니 헤드라인 보고 내가 굳이 트럭에 쓰인 글귀 찾아봤는데 ‘이 트럭은 하이브나 하이브 알바와 상관없다’😂강한부정은 긍정?BNZ는 NJZ가 뉴진스 IP를 찾아올때까지 NJZ로불러.근데 트럭에는‘뉴진스...

X · Mar 27, 2025, 9:54 AM

[red thorn]

There seemed heated situation in k-bunnies discord
What hybe wanted

[timber shell]

there's conflict between waiting for main lawsuit and back to ador for temp, i already expected the raise of second opinion

[upbeat stream]

Since their stance is that the contract is terminated, going back to ador even temporarily would destroy any chance of winning. Remember they didn't ask the court to terminate the contract

If they go back, it'll be a final decision and the lawsuits will be withdrawn. I could see it happening if the injunction appeal falls through

[cinder narwhal]

let's go back and have a world tour 👏

[rain spade]

no tthankx to going back YEP

[steel depot]

their own people sabotaging them this is so dumb and pathetic

[short laurel]

lets go back and have a world tour and do the garbage americanized songs hybe force them to sing and slowly put them in basement lower their overall popularity and be bullied by hybe more.

kpop stans are the worse cuz in the name of supporting idols, they support continuous mistreatment. and when an idol speak up, they go against idols wishes.

these "back to ador" people are not fans but people who c idols as commodity for thier entertainment.

[steel depot]

I refuse to let them end up like those K-pop groups and actors mentally deteriorated. We need them healthy, alive, and happy, even if this battle takes a long time.

[upbeat stream]

Going back now doesn't make any sense. The appeal is only like 3 months away, why not wait for it? If it fails, sure we should have a conversation but it's so dumb to give up right now

[split bramble]

death before dishonor

[split bramble]

exactly, want them to be happy, healthy, safe and sound before they entertain us again

[warm shard]

Do we know if there are more interviews to come?

[stiff prairie]

we didn't even know about the ones from before. even if there were more interviews it'll just drop out of nowhere

[warm shard]

i thought Dani mentioned something about the BBC interview before so I was curious whether they hinted at more

[stiff prairie]

did she? i must've missed it then

[stiff prairie]

what happened there

[warm shard]

Yes I think I remember her mentioning that they did an interview and it made her very emotional. She didn't say the BBC name but just hinted at an interview

[stiff prairie]

i see. i missed last few lives so idk. i do remember they said something about shooting a vid for something that'll come out after complexcon. but i think that was performance video or smth like that that'll stay hidden for god knows how long

[red thorn]

#1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1743076378:f>

from waffygleed.

there's conflict between waiting for main lawsuit and back to ador for temp, i already expected the raise of second opinion
[Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[sage fulcrum]

Our spoiler queen

[copper current]

*xhttps://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1905236222936785301

Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

I-BNZ listen up cause we got some bad news from Korea.

I'm going to be brutally honest with you all.

Some Korean fan accounts that run X/Youtube/IG have started pressuring the members to return to Ador and have released statements. Reminder that these accounts DO NOT represent

X · Mar 27, 2025, 12:31 PM

As NJZ fans, I know for many instances Ador didn't treat the girls well and cancelled all the comeback plan. The first time fraudor didn't treat the girls right, why do you think they will treat the girls right the second time? if NJZ come back, they will be treated more horribly and abused or looked down on. NJZ knows what will happen so they fight back hardly to escape the abuse relationship. I stand by the girls' choice for not returning back to Hybe and Fraudor. They treat the girls badly right now, how can they treat them better when they go back?

[storm warren]

because fans are selfish and prioritize themselves over the artist they support. "endure 5 years, at least you will be able to do activities, then leave and do what you want"

they don't even hear themselves. id call this spring cleanse. take a leave if you dont feel comfortable. there is no lack of kpop groups out there

[copper current]

These fans who think NJZ should come back are naive, Hybe will never let NJZ do activities. Hybe and Fraudor want to sabotage them, cage them, put NJZ in a corner and shell them. Once NJZ comeback, no more activities, no more social interaction, and Hybe/Fraudor will media play, use them for their other artists, any opportunities offered to NJZ will be snatched for other Hybe groups. When NJZ were in Hybe, those acitvities already happened. If NJZ come back, the harsh treatment will increase. NJZ know how bad those people are, don't force them to come back to that hell hole.

*xhttps://x.com/SayItditto722/status/1905239939375128898

MCA-모또당🏎️🏁 (@SayItditto722) on X

Someone wrote that yesterday, I think some of should read it

X · Mar 27, 2025, 12:46 PM

[mild mist]

These people seem to think that they can just 'go back' as if hybe wouldn't punish them for trying to terminate their contracts

[ashen charm]

Ador has definitely started sending out copyright and to sway the narrative if I were you don't stay to close you never now who will sell out

[storm warren]

we love common sense. hard to find nowadays

[red thorn]

If the girls ever force to comeback, they should demand hybe to apology for mediaplay as condition hah

[cinder narwhal]

wow very good

[rain spade]

Bring back mhj then they will go ba k

[storm warren]

even mhj cant protect them from residual hate and resentment from not only hybe executives but employees. they wrote vile things about girls last year on blind, imagine how bad it is now

[rain spade]

That's was supposed to be taken lightly but oh well 😆

[copper current]

*xhttps://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1905258383835627969

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

If you send a report to Shin & Kim LLC at 4 or 5 AM, they review it by 6:30 AM. They are waiting for our support. Let's help them succeed in their next opportunity.

X · Mar 27, 2025, 1:59 PM

*xhttps://x.com/yuijeans/status/1905261226042740740

Yui (@yuijeans) on X

I feel like I’m living in a broken world coz why is a conglomerate-backed subsidiary, one that took 80% of the revenue, owns the IP, and has all the resources to train new idols, will suffer more than five girls who only have themselves as their sole assets?

X · Mar 27, 2025, 2:10 PM

[subtle matrix]

The most I could see is a renegotiation of the contract with a restructure of ador. Even ignoring the fact that they don't want to return, coming back now would ruin their image. They need at least a partial W

Then they could say "ador has heard our complaints and made x y & z changes and we are comfortable returning now"

[grizzled summit]

I'm so worried for the girls 😭😭😭😭

[subtle matrix]

Once again it cannot be overstated how much the ultimatum to bring back MHJ hurts their case and limits their options now

[frozen granite]

The girls won’t go back to ador at all. I don’t even see them going back as a renegotiation at this point. Anyway, hope yall have a good day!

[subtle matrix]

Whoever was advising them back then needs to go back to law school

[pastel umbra]

that assumes HYBE really wants them back in full capacity in any case, and to even have any kind of partial restructure seems kind of unrealistic, no? the executives/people that were put into ADOR aren't just positions that can be easily swapped out like that

[old cypress]

How so?

[subtle matrix]

Depends on how much HYBE/ADOR wants them back, and how committed they actually are to working with them

[old cypress]

Hybe wants newjeans gone

If njz goes back hybe will sabotage them slowly but surely, with bad music bad concepts bad promotions

It'll be so insidious that njz won't be able to sue for any of it

[storm warren]

bringing up MHJ changes nothing without actual evidence of tampering. It is one of their arguments that change of management and executive producer was one of the reasons that broke down the trust. As for the tampering, if ADOR had actual case and evidence of it, they would sue MHJ directly

[copper jetty]

Idk them going back to hybe, they could go either of 2 ways. They go on non stop touring and cbs like what en- or txt is doing OR they get dungeoned... Or both (go on tours first few years but not give them good songs for cbs so they fade into relevance and them bam they get dungeoned until the last year of contract. 💀

[old cypress]

The only reason hybe ejected mhj is they wanted to ruin newjeans and mhj was in the way

[copper jetty]

Also Hybe unleashing the media plays just screams that they don't want NJZ back. What they want is NJZ's demolished rep.

[subtle matrix]

First of all it hurts all their claims against ador/hybe. "If this was an issue why didn't you escalate until MHJ left? You want to terminate contract for mistreatment but you wanted MHJ, who was found guilty of mistreatment? Seems like the actual issue is MHJ being gone and eveything else is frivolous"

Secondly, it kinda ties their destinies going forward in a very awkward way. Imagine a world where MHJ wins a lawsuit and the court forces ador to reinstate her. Do the girls return? It was the terms of the ultimatum so why not? But if they return does it mean the mistreatment isn't an issue anymore? So it was really all about MHJ?

Or if by any reason the girls decide to stop fighting in court and return to ador without MHJ, how will the public view them? It makes them look like arrogant, petulant children who were acting up but discovered how the real world works and are coming back with their tails between their legs

[old cypress]

Mhj is not guilty of mistreatment though?

[subtle matrix]

The ministry of labour fined her because they partially granted the accusation of mistreatment by employee B

[old cypress]

No they fined her because she lacked objectivity by advising the VP to appeal

[subtle matrix]

No they fined her for both

[old cypress]

As for not escalating the issues, njz did that to mhj precisely. They escalated all the issues to mhj and she fought with hybe

[copper jetty]

" But if they return does it mean the mistreatment isn't an issue anymore? So it was really all about MHJ?"

Well if MHJ is the only thing stopping Hybe in doing their mistreatment and actually lessens it for the girls cause like they said, she acts as a shield for them, then it totally makes sense that they escalated it when she left isn't it? And it's a huge reason then on why, if they could, they would come back if she comes back.

[old cypress]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1905187614065664309

XOXO 🤍 GG (@thegreatgaram) on X

If the Ministry of Labor & Employment cleared Min Hee Jin of the allegation that she covered up a subordinate's sexual harassment case and interfered with the investigation, why was she still fined?

- Two different issues
- Read on for context regarding the violation

X · Mar 27, 2025, 9:18 AM

[storm warren]

lmfao not u tying this case with NJZ case. it does not work like that. ridiculous

[subtle matrix]

The claim of workplace harassment was also partially granted

[storm warren]

All NJZ needs to do is to present argument which will prove that old and new managements are different and new management is under direct hybe's orders and they work together to bury njz. in normal country, CEO being CHRO of HYBE would be issue itself

[glossy siren]

the case is yet to be closed, there is an appeal pending

[storm warren]

stop bringing up employee B case in NJZ case, it is irrelevant

[copper jetty]

Its a MHJ case not an NJZ one 💀

[grizzled summit]

So mhj won against employee B??

[glossy siren]

some people just want to be able to bring down min heejin to satisfy their bias against her so they can be seen again as 100% bunnies

[grizzled summit]

It's saying no fine was imposed but didn't she get a 5 million dollar fine

[storm warren]

nobody won anything, fines were not finalized. she is also appealing and court case is ongoing

[mild mist]

I think it's the other way around.
Hybe wanted to ruin min heejin

[old cypress]

Why are you quoting the employee's Instagram story?

[grizzled summit]

Ok

[grizzled summit]

No hybe thought mhj would never make a successful group cuz she's a woman, and when newjeans got much popular Than lsfm hybe choked

[subtle matrix]

Public opinion is tying it with the NJZ case and I guarantee it will be brought up by HYBE/ADOR in the NJZ case

[storm warren]

public is not court

[grizzled summit]

That is irrelevant to the case and will definitely get dismissed

[storm warren]

utter bs i cant even bother to argue

[old cypress]

No it's because newjeans was created without BSH's fat fingers over it unlike most hybe groups. And the most successful hybe group since BTS is the one BSH hasn't touched and his ego can't take this humiliation

[grizzled summit]

Truee

[grizzled summit]

I wish all this didn't happen newjeans was getting quite popular but rn they're the hottest kpop group all over newd

[old cypress]

Yet you just shared employee B's fanfic

[storm warren]

[grizzled summit]

Yes don't need to repost it but it's disgusting how I saw some people say one of the girls might open an of account and guess what it was an armpit.

[frozen granite]

Did the buses arrive?

[grizzled summit]

What bused

[subtle matrix]

Employee B was sharing the results of his case. If you want to ignore things that happened and hurt NJZ be my guest, I'm sure you'll act surprised when they become relevant either way

[storm warren]

there was one bus

[grizzled summit]

WHAT BUSES ARE YALL TALKING ABOUT

[frozen granite]

team bunnies warned about buses - basically antis would pretend to be tokkis & protest njz to go back to ador. They said antis would send buses

[old cypress]

No, she lied and mhj corrected her afterwards. As 323 said there was no fines to start with, just notice of fines

[subtle matrix]

I don't want to write fanfics but it seems hybe sent buses telling njz to go back to ador pretending to be newjeans fans lol

[stiff prairie]

K tokkis and j tokkis anticipated that antis(probably backed by ador) was going to send message trucks in front of ador that njz go back there and stop the hiatus. We already knew about it 2 days ago and they arrived today and probably stay for a couple more days

[frozen granite]

Only 1 ? oh I thought they’d be more … wow I wonder if they made it sound bigger than what it would be

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/bammi057/status/1905276760997965891

[harsh dove]

@bammi057 <t:1743088352:d>

Came across this live and she’s not holding back, I LOVE HER😭

[grizzled summit]

That sucks so bad

[subtle matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-are-you-serious-kid-blinking-gif-15637790

"there was no fines to start with, just notice of fines" is certainly a sentence

[mild mist]

This is still ongoing, no?

[subtle matrix]

MHJ is appealing the ministry of labour fines and the court case is ongoing

[frozen granite]

Honestly she did spill

[mild mist]

Hence why we have no official release from the Ministry of labour, yes?

[stiff prairie]

Yep. Lots of big tokki accounts across socials are being messaged so they spread the word that njz needs to go back to ador or their future will be ruined etc. some accounts are doing that because they just want to be entertained but most accounts are respecting members' decision.

[grizzled summit]

Yuh

[grizzled summit]

Is it tag pr

[frozen granite]

Thought this was cute & funny

[stiff prairie]

Probably. Plus it's to ador's benefit if the fandom is divided and a portion pressures the members to go to ador.

[copper jetty]

Lmao I remember this tactic. Didn't hybe also send protest truck last year when this started pretending to be bunnies, and then the fandoms were confused and they were asking each other if someone sent the trucks only for them to discover that none of them did.

Deja vu

[grizzled summit]

Well we'll see

[grizzled summit]

What if its the same thing happening again

[stiff prairie]

Yeah I don't remember when but saw some twts that this exact thing happened last year asw

[grizzled summit]

But I have to say that Twitter bunnies are savagee

[frozen granite]

Aside from everything that’s going on, how are you guys feeling/doing? lowkey I feel better, but scared for next week

[stiff prairie]

There's both good and bad tbh. Some constantly shit on other groups which I don't like. Some are v good with keeping receipts

[grizzled summit]

Idk my mental healths taking a toll due to school and njz

[frozen granite]

Please take care of your studies & self first before all this Njz stuff. Yea the girls are going through it, but they are fine. They are also taking step back from this mess

[grizzled summit]

But the ones which shit on lsfm illit and bts are just revenge to those Stans

[old cypress]

I wrote in a hurry, I meant prior notice of fines

[grizzled summit]

Idk I feel bad for them more than for myself which is good cuz idk

[stiff prairie]

Focus on school then. Worrying isn't gon help. Save your energy when they really need our support

[bronze talon]

i dont talk much here bc id find it pretty useless to talk about the same thing occuring over and over again
but imma just drop this and what this whole legal battle is about. this tweet couldnt summarise it more accurately

https://x.com/yo_lobster/status/1904516326774988963

𝙡𝙤𝙗𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙧🦞 (@yo_lobster) on X

We know you don’t actually care about money—it’s all about power and pride.

Let’s be real. Despite releasing only two singles in 2024 and being buried in endless legal disputes, the girls still pulled in ₩23.9 billion in net profit for you. The money is coming in just fine and

X · Mar 25, 2025, 12:50 PM

[frozen granite]

Yeah you should probably stay back from this for a little bit

[stiff prairie]

I mean yeah clap back is important but some accs just hate for the sake of hating

[grizzled summit]

Kk ima log off then byee wonderful bnz!!

[copper jetty]

https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20240424006600315

It's this one article

[storm warren]

hah, what a joke

[short laurel]

Someone report them for misinformation or biased reporting or whatever

[stiff prairie]

In k tokkis we trust. Didn't know they'd send their own trucks on the same day lol

[copper jetty]

Wait it wasn't the same day

[stiff prairie]

How I thought antis trucks came today. Ktokkis ones came yesterday then?

[copper jetty]

This was last year cake. You asked me about the one from last year when Hybe sent their own trucks.

Also i was meant to paste this not the one with the truck signs that bunnies sent.
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bunnies-new-jeans-fans-deny-sending-trucks-accuse-hybe-media-play-sending-trucks/

[hot girder]

Doesn't it take quite some money to send these trucks? If one of our fanbases started to organize for this, i'm sure we would have known by then

[old cypress]

I read a few k-"tokkis" vouching for a return to ADOR, most are new accounts and reusing hybe's talking points lol

[hot girder]

There are actual ktokkis, and tokkis in general, who think like this or completely disregard what the girls are going through. A bunch of accounts that take pictures of the girls in their events have been like this (modanist being the most recent). It's just... yikes

[storm warren]

i hate to return to this bs take but also it was said here and wanted to say MHJ court case is not for her to win and go back to ador. shareholders agreement is terminated. the court will decide whether it happened in rightful manner, what will happen to put option and if she is eligible to receive it and if she wins, she might as well get damages for wrongful termination. the court can not force anyone to go back anywhere.

[old cypress]

there are some actual bnz but they seem to be focusing on having content for themselves rather than the girls being in a safe work environment

[storm warren]

the mere idea that court can impose on individual to go back to their former workplace is simply delusional and legally impossible

same goes to NJZ, if the lose main lawsuit, the court still can not force them to go back. it will just decide who should pay penalties

[empty halo]

WHAT?? were those trucks sent regarding this same incident ?

[old cypress]

if they have to pay penalties, they can debut as njz and pay them over time

[empty halo]

and also the decide the korean publics opinion

[short laurel]

Anti mhj trucks. They were not by bunnies

[hot girder]

"Imagine a world where..." I stopped reading after that, because we want to discuss with actual arguments and not made-up scenarios that, frankly, won't happen

[storm warren]

take 3jeong/ablume as example. they lost the case, but still did not go back to attrakt

[empty halo]

ohhh i see

[storm warren]

attrakt sued them for damages and they countersued attrakt for damages

attrakr also sued the givers ceo for tampering, while in our case ador is not even suing mhj for alleged tampering

[hot girder]

and they have much much less resources and public than njz, so I'm sure if ablume could, NJZ will be more than able to not go back to ador even if they lose

[storm warren]

the main lawsuit simply makes it impossible to repair the relationship and go back and court as i said can not force the individual to do so

this is why hybedor is pouring everything to attack njz before April 3 and pressuring them to pull out

because njz cares about public perception because they are idols and njz also cares about fans opinion

hence the existing discord in the fandom just plays into hybedor's plans

[copper jetty]

Is this why they're messaging ktokkis accounts to trend those hashtags??

[storm warren]

fans have privilege to pressure idols because of their position and due to idol-fan relationship which is beyond complex

[old cypress]

which is why we shouldn't give too much attention to these fans

[lucid yarrow]

or even pay them lol

[quartz creek]

Has anyone seen the BBC video.

[storm warren]

hence, some of the accounts using their big platforms to impose demands on girls comes off as entitled and insensitive. if u are leaving, leave quietly. dont stir drama that will make hybedor happy

[copper jetty]

Also if Bunnies really did the trucks today.. wouldn't we have heard it already? Last time trucks were sent the fundraising was also sent here by k bunnies. Why haven't we heard it yet?

(We all know why) 💀

[lucid yarrow]

the truck called them Newjeans or NJZ?

[hot girder]

this. if you want to leave do it quietly. we don't need to add more negativity to the girls when what they're going through is already so mentally taxing (I'm talking about fanbases here btw)

[hot girder]

newjeans

[copper jetty]

N̶e̶w̶J̶e̶a̶n̶s̶ 🙅‍♀️

NJZ

[lucid yarrow]

all hybe/fraudor want media to stop using NJZ no ways true fans going call them that until they can get thier name back

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1905260703361175878 does not contain any media!

[sly python]

good day fellow tokkis, hoping everyone is hanging in there...stay positive

[split shoal]

i’m trying to stay positive until the main lawsuit on april 3rd

[sly python]

thats all we can do :)

[surreal raft]

guys I heard njz is having a other injection in April 9th or is that different?

[vapid turret]

Can someone DM me more deets about the so called #1 Tokki on tiktok please? I don't want to break the rules.

[old cypress]

It's the objection to the last injunction. NJZ side will object to the injunction but since it's the same judge, it's expected to fail. After that they'll appeal the injunction and it'll be on another day with another court/judge

[hot girder]

who?

[night niche]

how’s everyone doing

[copper jetty]

Better. By staying off of social media my mental health is literally good right now.

But just wanted to ask guys regarding the Belift manager. As far as I know it wasn't Hanni that name dropped the group but Hybe... but how'd we know this though? Did they make a statement or something?

[frosty echo]

ig I know who you're on about

[midnight yarrow]

Because the only time Hanni spoke about it was during their YT stream where she literally said the group greeted her, didn't even specify the gender of the group and then said the manager made a comment. It was never about the group but the hostile culture around her and the other members of NJZ

[copper jetty]

Hanni never said the groups name though... its mostly in korean and Korean language doesn't have gender specific pronouns. This is basically what she said so how did people deduce the group?

I remember someone released a statement regarding this basically pointing out that it was Belift. I just wanted to ask if it's pinned or if anyone got a link.

[frozen bronze]

media basically assumed it was illit afaik

[storm warren]

Next day article mentioned the group, it was Hankyoreh article iirc

[copper jetty]

Do you have a link of the article?

[storm warren]

i need a moment

it was hankyung actually https://marketinsight.hankyung.com/article/202409125297r

[wise wagon]

im sincerely considering taking a full out social media break :') the hate is becoming crazy, every youtube channel begins to post abt njz for the sake of views because it attracts haters, and there's never a single positive comment on any video

the girls are so strong for enduring this, i cant imagine how much they're going through, if i as a viewer that isnt involved am feeling so bothered