NJZ Updates and Discussion

[short laurel]

idk full details of this but from what i know. even though girls are innocent. legally it's girls side in the wrong cuz of warner music. i c that case as girls stuck between 2 evils and girls end up joining bigger evil instead of lesser evil.

[subtle matrix]

This whole shit goes wayyy back at this point it's impossible to say who could've done things differently. This has been brewing since 2021 at least

[shrewd badger]

Still no proof she actually did anything

[cerulean lake]

yeah the micro aggressive tests from BSH and Park Jiwon to MHJ from when NJZ first debuted just proves that their beef runs deep

[frozen granite]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapping-yap-cat-yapidi-yap-yap-yap-yap-gif-11479956768894629287

[storm warren]

2020 i must say

[shrewd badger]

The trial for contract validity is on the 4th right

[cerulean lake]

I think HYBE is right to be aware and also take the necessary measures to investigate, but it’s the fact that they used that situation and amplified it with aggressive and nonsensical mediaplay to tarnish her and NJZ’s reputation that I hate. They clearly saw it as a chance to take her and NJZ down as they were originally planning to.

[storm warren]

when Plus GG was in planning stage and there was disagreements, thats when they parted ideologically

[shrewd badger]

Are the internal reports from hybe considerd evidence?

[frozen granite]

Imagine BSH & MHJ were actually ex’s how crazy would that be

[shrewd badger]

This is like a soap drama 😭

[cerulean lake]

i’m not sure because I think the judge said it’s not conclusive enough but 🤷🏻‍♀️

[storm warren]

she has bf

[short laurel]

since the report came from national assembly i believe they are considered true soruce

[vocal sable]

we all know bang pds type lmao

[cerulean lake]

yeah BSH likes them young

[shrewd badger]

Similar to Leonardo DiCaprio type ?

[vocal sable]

pretty similar

[short laurel]

we had a theory here that bsh liked MHJ but MHJ rejected him so BSH taking revenge cuz he is that type of guy.

[subtle matrix]

A few weeks ago there were rumours going around that they were seen together somewhere lol it was bs but still funny

[cerulean lake]

didn’t he have like a 19/20 yr gf when he was like in his 40s?

[short laurel]

judge said that about reports that came from natioanal assembly audit ?

[vocal sable]

||like everyone defending him forgets that he was seen with a woman who on her youtube u have to pay to see her cosplay as a juicy middle schooler/high schooler doing u know what.||

[cerulean lake]

I’m not sure i thought people said that but I could’ve read it wrong. Didn’t have the time to read all the ruling stuff.

[short laurel]

it was just a joke theory here for 1 day 🤣

[cerulean lake]

they’ll give him backlash and then forget about it. but if it was about a certain someone, that whole thing follows their career 👀

[short laurel]

bsh snapped her pic which she posted on ig with newjeans music bubblegum. 🤣

[vocal sable]

the misogyny is crazyyy

[cerulean lake]

the fact that he was caught by those walking channels will never not be funny to me

[short laurel]

even shown in national assembly that whole korea saw.

[vocal sable]

LMAOO LIKE bros just chilling in his la mansion which he paid for with bts money (in terms money is all he cares about not any shade to bts)

[cerulean lake]

i remember there were allegations of him using the company money to buy his mansion

[vocal sable]

is anyone even surprised like this man is money hungry

[cerulean lake]

but of course he gets away with everything

hate how he acts so sleezy knowing that these politicians can back him up with their connections to hybe and his father. life is so unfair

[short laurel]

dude what happened to that case and stock market case. it got bured cuz of yoon trying to become dictator

[cerulean lake]

all these kdramas and webtoons that i read just confirm this corruption in society too 😭

[short laurel]

all i m learning is, the messed up shi we c in kdramas and webtoons is watered down version of reality. T_T

[cerulean lake]

so yoon wasn’t even arrested? their legal system never fails to disappoint

anyways i said i would take a break and here i am need to listen to pit stop and come back if there’s any positive development but it just gets worse day by day

[short laurel]

his case is still ongoing. today they reinstated the prime minister as acting president.

[surreal raft]

who is yoon..

[short laurel]

same.

[vocal sable]

the guy who did the martial law thing

[cerulean lake]

the president that did martial law. him and his wife have a very corrupt past

[subtle matrix]

Alright guys it was fun chatting with you, I'll be busy for a couple days so I have to leave. Don't talk shit about me or I'll see when I return. Bye

[cerulean lake]

🤣 don’t worry everyone has a valid reaction and even if i don’t agree, i can see ur perspective

[shrewd badger]

Make sure you comeback 🫡

[craggy owl]

Yoon should be behind bars

[night niche]

doesn’t sound out of character

[cosmic belfry]

Good plot line for the K Drama

[red thorn]

The reality could be stranger than that

[night niche]

guys if you can, whenever you see a misinformation video about njz on youtube try your best to report it, i just check my report status on youtube and like 5 videos i reported on got taken down

especially youtube shorts, youtube usually takes those down more easily than videos

[copper current]

I trust NJZ 100% and they all tell the truth. They are sincerely and always keep their promises. The problem I have here is Korean corruption and government and Hybe and Korean media. All of them gang up and painted NJZ badly and twisted the facts to try to corner them. I don't trust the judge will be on NJZ side and I want to find a solution for them to escape Korean and become international star instead

[copper current]

How did you do that? i reported ton of them and none was taken down.

[night niche]

reporting as misinformation or spam and misleading tends to work the best when reporting

like for example i reported the predebut videos dispatch released that were posted on youtube as spam or misleading, they all got taken down

also reporting not just the video itself but different aspects as well such as the thumbnail helps

[night niche]

this 100% trust NJZ over HYBE and yall trying to make it seem like it was “complicated” “waiting for more info” and all that other nonsense was… strange.

[copper current]

That is not me who mentions complicated. I think everything is crystal clear that NJZ are right.

[night niche]

oh yes i know i was agreeing with you! sorry if that wasn’t clear, i was referring to the strange conversation that was happening a couple of hours ago in this chat

[frozen granite]

Why did @itslou leave :/

[surreal raft]

oh no

[glossy siren]

sharing without fact checking is not the best move when there is the reputation of someone on the plate...just an advice

so guys...has the hiatus ended?

it's done, I mean, 24hours are enough I think

https://tenor.com/view/sad-alone-sad-person-alone-cradle-sitting-along-in-corner-gif-11206167521557372047

[hollow adder]

hmm how do i put this...

[old ingot]

Exactly why I kept repeating I had done no research of my own, and that it was old information, meaning I could've easily mixed stuff up as well as forgot very important key parts of what was "said" or shared at the time. Yet I believe it is all specultions or haters, since off of what I've seen she has addressed a lot of it, and again she has faced no "consequences" so for now, I believe in her and the law being Innocent untill proven guilty.

[hot girder]

like why are you even a mod at this point if you're doubting everything the girls have said

https://tenor.com/view/heartaglows-stan-twitter-fish-annoyed-mad-gif-27654695

[old ingot]

Everything has to be taken with a grain of salt. No one tells the absoloute truth, if they did they would have no way to win a court case, im sorry to shatter your dreams, but no human is perfect.

If such a 'being' did exist, it would be considered god.
And yet no one would trust that, because thats how imperfect we are, even if we stood before a "perfect" being, we wouldn't believe it or find something to disprove it.

[vocal sable]

its not really even that. i would rather believe them than hybe

[old ingot]

oh yea I know, but I was commenting on the person above, I am guessing he said it as a joke from the gif, but the earlier person really did state he/she would trust 100% of what they said no matter how rediculous basically. And that as the mod said is a very toxic thought process to have.

And of course we would support the idols, especially when one knows how oppressed idols are compared to the "oppressors" aka the company. This afterall isnt only NJZ but every KPoP group, but we cant just shine a light on Idols like they're gods, thats my point.

[hot girder]

I'm not painting anyone as a god. And I don't know if you've read what occurred a few hours ago, but you'd have a clearer idea of what I mean if you read the backlog. And no, I'm not joking. I believe the girls because what they have claimed is not ridiculous and is backed by proof

That mod seems to give anyone the benefit of the doubt except NJZ themselves

[jolly junco]

Thats a lot of….yapping

[glossy siren]

thats a lot of hiatus

[old ingot]

Oh I didnt read it fully no, I am just agreeing with that one statement the Mod made, that being too trusting is a very toxic trait to have towards anything in life

[jolly junco]

Are you guys talking about damien? i blocked him, its a good features discord provide you

Use it for the better of your mental health

He is an antis disguised as tokki

[cerulean lake]

agree with ur bottom statement

i’ve been noticing it since last year anyways 👀

[night niche]

right like what was all of that…

[cerulean lake]

there was one sus statement they made that basically made the whole discord against them for a moment

and then they backtracked and even realized what they said was bad

[hot girder]

He's mentioning being "too trusting" when talking about NJZ, who have shown proof of what they claim, and hasn't been declared false by the judge. He claims to "believe in the law" but is still doubting what the girls are going through. What the fuck is this even about?

(Nothing against you Korsac, just me being pissed off again lol. I do agree that being way too trusting is bad, but here we have proof, and if you don't believe in the girls why are you even here anyways)

[glossy siren]

worse stuff has been written here, you are focusing on the surface

[night niche]

i literally had to clarify the ministry of labor vs the judiciary to him and then someone got upset at me after i said him using a reddit post as a source wasn’t good 💀

u cant make this stuff up bruh

“believe in the law” and can’t even tell the different between the courts

[glossy siren]

kpop stans use dispatch as a source...

[wary hearth]

this makes me think about how if the court sides with hybe, then people will think its a win but its just disregarding the girls mistreatment that they’ve truly face

[cerulean lake]

the hard evidence might be hard to gather for this case because it deals with a lot of emotional aspects but i don’t like how that is being dismissed as “lying” or “overexaggerating” their valid feelings bc there’s not as much evidence

[hot girder]

he believes in the law when it's convenient for him btw

[wary hearth]

like diminishing the girls experience

[cerulean lake]

“i only believe the law” and then switches up after we point out how the law isn’t great too 😭

[hot girder]

I know there's worse, but having it come from a mod is just crazy

[night niche]

and it’s so disappointing

[cerulean lake]

like using tmz for american news

[night niche]

literally 💀

[glossy siren]

there's worse from mods

[hot girder]

mind you this is my first impression from him and he just looks like someone who's definitely not a fan

[glossy siren]

all communities have this mix of fans...some being a way, some another

[cerulean lake]

nah haven’t seen a mod like that before. of course the past mods were questionable and problematic in different aspects (that’s why they were kicked) but i don’t think they ever shared those sentiments like the current ones

[night niche]

i tolerated him but after today idk man 💀

[hot girder]

"I hope I'm wrong 😪😪" baby you ARE wrong and we've been telling you. What happens with the contract is different from what the girls have proven to go through, and you don't believe that either

[hollow adder]

guys im not fully caught up but is damien like anti-mhj or smthn

[old ingot]

oh dont worry I dont take any offense in it, I am just trying to get a perspective and give my perspective on certain criterias so to say, and I do fully agree with that statement, you made, it would make no sense for me either. And again that's also my point exactly, I do side with NJZ due to what they have provided compared to what Hybe/Ador has provided. (especially claiming something doesn't exist, just to submit something from another day Illit indicent no hate on Illit ofc, also like their music and support them)

All I am saying is that there are two sides to the story, so some of what NJZ has said is probably a twist of the truth in some way, as well as Hype/Ador has atleast made one if not more true statements along the line. (I do know that they falseified so much information do not worry, so yes I also fully side with NJZ in this debate/matter)

[glossy siren]

yup

[night niche]

yeah but he also doesn’t believe the girls are fully saying the truth which is mental imo but that’s just me

[cerulean lake]

yes but he for some reason uses that against njz imo and thinks she was the main cause of all of this while downplaying hybe’s involvement

plus he said he doesn’t trust the girls that much anymore

[hollow adder]

wtf... even if u dont like mhj how can u downplay what njz is speaking up about

[glossy siren]

all banned by the end of the day

[night niche]

we’re all gonna get banned guys 💔💔

[wary hearth]

yes this is what gets people to hope the court sides with hybe, so they can diminish what the girls went through

[blazing sky]

this is not an anti damien channel btw just talk ab something else 😭 the fact that i gotta scroll and yall are still talking about him

[cerulean lake]

his anti or troll friend from another server came here before too lolz. he got hella supporters

[dapper root]

its quite humorous

[hot girder]

who?

[old ingot]

real

[glossy siren]

2 critics gosh, an anti channel, how dramatic

so next. has the hiatus ended?

[frozen granite]

https://fxtwitter.com/windows/status/1904259022506922210

Windows (@Windows)

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[hot girder]

no

[night niche]

oh he’ll be alright he’s probably reading this cackling to himself

[cerulean lake]

bro we never said it was an anti channel. this is literally the whole waffles pancake meme shit on twt 😭😭

[wary hearth]

day 1 with njz

[blazing sky]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-new-jeans-bubblegum-bubble-gum-hanni-gif-5746364341313937242

[glossy siren]

so day 2 with njz, balance is important

DELULU IS THE SOLULU

[wary hearth]

i corrected my error

[cerulean lake]

happened a few times but most recent one got banned i think

[hoary frost]

not every Tokki has to believe everything the girls say, and that's ok. But as fans, supporting them and believing in them is the least we can do. We’re fans of the girls, not of hybe or ador. It’s not about blindly following, but about trusting the ones we really care about and have been supporting all along. At the end of the day, it’s all about Minji, Hanni, Dani, Haerin and Hyein, not about the company they were or are in. And it’s kinda strange to see people who claim to be Tokkis doubting them

[hot girder]

but who is it lol

[cerulean lake]

idk it was all so sudden. but they knew each other

[blazing sky]

i dont think anyone is doubting them tbh i think the conversation was more on those who support mhj
which you can support the girls and not support mhj

[hollow adder]

true abt not blindly following, but i mean whats not to support about what they have spoken up abt so far?

[cerulean lake]

but then that convo derailed to talking about trusting the girls..

[hot girder]

no, there are people who definitely doubt them. we've read it today no need to pretend it doesn't happen

[blazing sky]

tbf i was driving home from class after that convo lol

[night niche]

when someone tells me what exactly they don’t believe something specific that NJZ has said and gives me a SCHOLARLY source as to why (not reddit) maybe i’ll take this into account but until then i think this is a bit ridiculous

[glossy siren]

I also support the creators behind them, I think it's important to value those figures in every production

[blazing sky]

can yall reply to something where someone was doubting so i can catch up por favor

[old ingot]

its a whiiiiile back

[blazing sky]

i drove for an hour 😭

[hot girder]

you can search conflicted and it's gonna pop up

[glossy siren]

with eta at full volume I hope

[old ingot]

It was before this I can tell you

[dapper root]

my final thing about it i wanna say is its not that I’m conflicted i just hope in the next case they are more prepared so the evidence matches up with what their claiming

[blazing sky]

https://tenor.com/view/kpop-gif-7757738233152923339

[old ingot]

Really hope I remembered to turn off the @ else I am very sorry Bundle66

[night niche]

“i feel a bit conflicted” “it’s not so black and white” “it’s more complicated” “i believe in the law” “let’s wait and see” “not blindly supporting”

and we’re talking about a huge kpop corporation vs girls trying to fight the system, media literacy is officially dead in 2025 💔

[jolly junco]

oh dear its your first meeting? welcome to NJZ server with mod as antis

[blazing sky]

i mean hes valid to think that it doesnt make him any less of a fan

[hollow adder]

yeah i mean thats fair but like they gave their reasoning in the pr statement didnt they? it was a short time frame, and they didnt have the same abundance of resources and info as hybe/ador so they are at a disadvantage

[night niche]

god help us all 💀

[wary hearth]

right
, why would not believe the people who’s story this is about

[old ingot]

what I heard today was also my first impression of him mind you... I only saw 1 statement that seemed good out of context... but with the context holy fk...

[hot girder]

miss me with that conflicted shit. fan my ass

[jolly junco]

you wouldnt be thinking this if you know what he said last year about hanni

[night niche]

exactly

[jolly junco]

everyone here knows, but new members doesnt

[hoary frost]

[old ingot]

I am scared to ask... but what did he say...

[hollow adder]

im not new but i have no clue ngl LOL

[night niche]

i’ve have yet to see someone give me a good reason as to why they’re “conflicted”

[cerulean lake]

ye lowkey side eyed him after that comment

[frozen granite]

Who here are new members ??

[hot girder]

I've been here for a while lol just never really engaged enough with the people here sadly

[cerulean lake]

said something that was very similar to what the antis were saying during that time 💔

[old ingot]

New to this DC 🤚

[hollow adder]

i remember some mods getting outed for some weird things but thats all i remember, im not tapped into discord drama

[frozen granite]

Welcome !!!

[old ingot]

Ty! (by new I mean 1-2ish weeks idek)

[cerulean lake]

u were beefing w him the most before 🤣

[pastel umbra]

they never replaced any mods after that, right?

[frozen granite]

Nvm you’re a veteran now

Jk

[old ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-new-jeans-hanni-haerin-happy-new-jeans-gif-11794119718577323118

[jolly junco]

i can DM you, i dont want to repeat what he said, i have screenshot of what he said

[glossy siren]

guys you can't drop stuff like this and be misterious, open that pandora box and tell us what was said

[hot girder]

spill the tea in my dms

[blazing sky]

if your fav artist came out saying they were abused 100% and went to court to sue, then slowly as court cases preceded their evidence became stacked against them, you would feel conflicted? like, the only thing i think of being in this situation in the past is melanie martinez being accused of SA. (ik its not kpop related) but as more and more evidence came out it became more conflicted to keep following the artist, (i know this isnt at all njz case, but im giving a comparison to how one may feel as more evidence comes out) so damien feeling conflicted as more evidence comes out is valid, hes mentioned before he supports them

[jolly junco]

its unforgiveable and nothing he said will make me changes my mind about him

[glossy siren]

my dm are open for tea

[old ingot]

I shall prepare myself to be mortified

[blazing sky]

tbh ive been here for a while but i lurk

[copper current]

https://youtu.be/EpYjVrxMqUk?si=r4xn7dwuO3Lg65g0

[craggy skiff]

come to this channel
yapping a lot
i knew it(but using an outdated claim that had been debunked)
i own my opinion
leave

[night niche]

in the nicest way possible i don’t think this is a good comparison at all, the melanie martinez situation is something completely different

[frozen granite]

Is this a good report or are they being biased ?

[cerulean lake]

but that evidence coming out from hybe doesn’t say anything about njz’s character. it’s rather than njz needs to provide more concrete evidence and having so called fans dismiss them and think they’re lying is not it imo

[copper current]

NBC News US it’s pretty good touches on why NJZ is protesting workplace harassment called out South Korea for not considering idols as workers and talks about the Dark Kpop industry

[hot girder]

it's not valid when nothing the girls have said has been proven otherwise wrong. you can argue their case is weak, but what they've gone through is real and saying some dumb shit like "we have to see both sides" after all that is just stupid 👍

[old ingot]

1:35am lasanga is ready less gooo munchies time

[night niche]

NBC is like one of the only new sources in america trump hasn’t been able to touch fully yet so this makes sense

[blazing sky]

i mean i agree their characters are good but at the end of the day they need to win to get their independence right?

[glossy siren]

sorry to drop this but maybe you can make me not waste time looking for stuff, why are many people talking of 3 years? random speculation or something today...?

[cerulean lake]

yeah. they might need more strong evidence but that doesn’t mean that they were any less valid to carry this issue out. that’s why i find it so difficult as to why people are so against them. unless they did all of this to screw up someone’s career, why is it so hard for people to support them??

if some development came out saying this was all planned or some shit to defame groups, then i would understand people not supporting them but ppl are making it seem like that’s the case now just because they have weaker evidence

[dapper root]

theres just a bunch of shit we dont know

[night niche]

not this again bro 💀

[copper current]

Please spread the video, please make the views bigger so it reaches more people

[frozen granite]

Btw to anyone who thought I was picking a side I am on Njz side I just feel hopeless at times bc of the lack of evidence that was presented in the injunction or the fact that it wasn’t enough for the judge

[copper current]

I am always on NJZ side, 100% until the end

[glossy siren]

uuuh nbc, 11 millions subs...uuuh

[hot girder]

https://tenor.com/view/btweers-treyreloaded-gif-9529333981435756210

[jolly junco]

every evidences are in HYBE building

who owned that building? exactly

[cerulean lake]

dw ik how you feel and im on the same boat. ik ur a supporter based on ur past messages

[split bramble]

kpop fans are unique in that for 80% of them its very hard to support artists, I'm glad njz wont be kpop whenever they return

[frozen granite]

Also if I wasn’t a fan I wouldn’t have booked a trip across the country to see them by myself 💀

[hollow adder]

i feel like atp if ur not on the artists side after seeing all the bs companies do to save themselves then idk ur just volunteerily ignorant lol, its another thing to suppor them and doubt their ability to win the court cases, but its another to see light in what the companies side is putting out into the public

[blazing sky]

i mean ay if they need to lie to be free i dont blame them bro 😭 id want to get out of hybe asap if i was them but the dude is right their evidence is weak its extremely hard to prove mental harrassment over physical. i said this a while back its so easy to track reciepts of pay stubs, staff being at events and promotions, bruising from physical violence, etc etc but mental harrassment is harder you need cctv footage and witnesses to prove bullying which is why their side is weaker

i dont think they shouldnt leave and do all this though. what they are doing is still right and they should fight for their ideals. but its gonna be a hard one if they dont find better evidence or run through this from a different angle

[cerulean lake]

yeah stating that their evidence is a little weak is VASTLY DIFFERENT than saying “i don’t trust/believe them”

[quartz creek]

But why would they lie? They have nothing to lie about

[hot girder]

but there's things we don't know bro we don't know if minji plastered more aespa stickers in the building 😬😬😮‍💨

[blazing sky]

you dont know that, you arent them so you dont know all of this is speculation

[cerulean lake]

idk how they’re gonna get cctv footage when that shit is deleted

[copper current]

They are so good people, they don't discard the person who let them debut, they are always thankful, polite, kind, smiles etc. always think about fans. How could such angels be treated badly? evil absue them and I don't allow that

[blazing sky]

i think hannis voice recording of the guy saying he wiped the footage is better evidence than the cctv footage itself tbh

[quartz creek]

It just wouldn’t make sense why they would lie tho. if they did intend to lie, then they should’ve known the aftermath and consequences of the lie and how it would affect ILLIT, HYBE or etc. i don’t think they would make a dumb move like that intentionally without rethinking it

[half knot]

think of it in terms of balance of probabilities: who is more likely to manipulate information for the sake of monetary gain?
a now-certified-as-chaebol corporation in south korea consisting of many American music industry and Korean gaming industry executives
OR
five girls none of who is even past 20yo, their parents and their representatives.

[cerulean lake]

we need the testimony of the security guard she talked to

[half knot]

BOTH sides will manipulate information now that they have lawyers, but who is more likely to do that and just chuck it up to cost of doing business?

[blazing sky]

tbh. both can be true. if the girls want to leave hybe because they were going to be put in the dungeon, they would need to pay a lot of money to leave legally. doing this by the courts is the cheaper way for them

[night niche]

“As such, we did not have sufficient opportunity to fully present the factual background to the court. Additionally, due to an imbalance of information, ADOR and HYBE have full access to all information regarding the members’ entertainment activities, whereas the members have been forced to individually contact relevant parties to request information. The pressure of being involved in a lawsuit, along with fears of retaliation, also prevented many from cooperating.”

[blazing sky]

if they can prove that they lost trust in ador they can leave with no fees

[night niche]

the employees of hybe were literally scared to give them evidence, that’s why they couldn’t gather enough in time

[quartz creek]

I feel like because it’s HYBE it just makes more sense why they would manipulate more. Like who am i kidding, they’ve probably have done this before

[hollow adder]

theres deadass people , even in here, who believe mhj's power is equal or superior to the corporations

[half knot]

you have been extrapolating too far into the future regarding their cases, whereas they have only had ONE day in the court of law in south korea, and one week after for a limited written submission period.

[night niche]

korean corruption 101

[wary hearth]

what video

[half knot]

we literally have some pages of their thousands of pages of weekly and monthly information manipulation campaign running in their company internally for years...

[cerulean lake]

sums up reddit in a nutshell. those people believe she caused the whole martial law shit and i’m not even kidding 😭

[blazing sky]

im saying from an outside standpoint 😭 if the only way out of my company was to pay an extremely enormous fee or have the chance to have it free through the courts what option would you take?

if the only way to have your option free is to prove distrust in your company how far would you go?

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/Hautetokki/status/1904187622601179499

[narrow seal]

250324 Oats 🐰🏎️🏁 (@​Hautetokki) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Hautetokki/status/1904187622601179499
I swear in a few years, the main opinion concerning NJZ will change. People will act like they didn’t participate in one of the most disgusting misogynistic hate campaign against these 5 young women. Ill remember tho

[night niche]

@half knot btw im not sure if you saw this but i finished the documents i said i was gonna create yesterday, im gonna create a good drive when im finished with everything to make it more accessible to everyone

[copper current]

https://youtu.be/EpYjVrxMqUk?si=MXPHGrSh1LCDCHdy

[blazing sky]

omg i wanna read these i was in class when i saw u post them and i forgor 💔

[half knot]

you're not wrong on that, but you are making a presumption that the girls and their lawyers would commit perjury in the court of law to get their way, when you say they are lying in court or at least there's a chance that they are outright lying.

[copper current]

what is this about? and why they are related to NJZ

[cerulean lake]

yeah and those ppl complaining about their court case and their new song. hope they shut up during their hiatus 💔

[blazing sky]

i think we are all making presumptions in this chat everyday it isnt wrong for me to think that could be an option for why they are doing this

and i dont blame them for that

[surreal raft]

Who is he

[night niche]

moreso a background on the corruption in the korean court system and what it means for NJZ’s case

[cerulean lake]

perjury in the court is literally punishable. their lawyers and them would not want to be doing that

[half knot]

except there's no basis for your presumption. everything they've done has been following procedures in their exclusive contract that allows for termination of contract. their mistake was that the violations they are citing was not seen as significant enough by the judge.

[copper current]

If you can arrnage counter arguments for all the points Hybe and Ador list, that would be great as well

[night niche]

an interesting admin in our server to say the least 💀

[hoary frost]

honestly, why would they lie if it could seriously hurt them down the line? If they get caught in a lie, the consequences could be huge for their careers and future. It doesn't make sense for them to risk that. I totally agree that mental harassment is harder to prove, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen or that they shouldn’t fight for it. Even though the evidence may not be as strong as we’d like, it’s still important for them to stand up for what they believe in. And who’s more likely to lie and get away with it? A huge company with all the resources, power, and connections, or five girls between 16-20 years old, who don’t have anyone backing them except each other, their families, and a law firm? The odds are definitely not in their favor. If they were going to lie, they’d be risking everything while HYBE has the means to manipulate things in their favor. So, I think it's important to consider what they have at stake before jumping to conclusions

[blazing sky]

if you think every single person who goes to court tells the truth i hate to break it to you

[half knot]

if they were going to lie, they could have come up with a lot better "violations" than the weaksauce stuff their lawyers presented in the injunction hearing.

[copper current]

I wish some smart bunnies can build arguments for NJZ and their lawyers

[quartz creek]

I just can’t get over the fact people all over twitter and reddit are obsessed with accusing a literal teenager/young adult of speaking out. It’s outrageous knowing she didn’t do anything wrong, yet people still have the guts to act like she ended the world. And at the end of the day, it’s probably a 3rd gen stan with their group having absolutely no doing whatsoever in the situation. not involved what so ever.

[hollow adder]

isnt that what team bunnies do?

[cerulean lake]

of course i think people don’t say the truth all the time. i mean look at oj simpson 💔💔. im just saying that there’s no basis as to why we should consider them as lying. maybe their evidence is not as strong, but it still does not fall under lying

[night niche]

counter argument about the injunction or main court case?

[blazing sky]

im not jumping to conclusions im hypothesising, we talk ab that all the time in this chat

and im just being realistic, like i 100% get it if they gotta lie. i wouldnt want to stay in hybe either but truly, truly if they dont have enough evidence i understand why they would lie.

[half knot]

we don't have access to even 10% of the complete set of information to come up with any kinds of arguments, they are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars equivalent to their legal counsel to come up with that stuff, fans have no place giving them advice.

[quartz creek]

there’s no reason for them to lie tho

[blazing sky]

maybe lying isnt the best word. more like sugar coating, not outright lying

sugar coating or exaggerating i dont know whats a better word to say

[pastel umbra]

but why would there be a reason to assume that they'd be lying about their situation or not being completely honest about it?

[half knot]

this is a great time to link T-ara's Sugar Free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_eo5j5sib8

[blazing sky]

wait ill reply to what i was saying before

[half knot]

again if they were going to lie, they would have come up with a lot better violations than these seemingly weak ones.

[cerulean lake]

agree

[blazing sky]

this

its a lot harder to prove mental harrassment so i understand if they gotta exaggerate to be able to leave i dont blame them bc their evidence is weak

[half knot]

also linked T-ara because one of the members there became a snake and ruined the group with her outright lies. now that was a lie, and it took 3 years for the lies to be exposed.

[blazing sky]

oh damn i didnt know that lore

[hoary frost]

that's what i'm trying to understand

[half knot]

but also because you said sugar coat 🙂

[cerulean lake]

can’t believe she got to become a mid-successful actress after she ruined the group 😭

[kindred estuary]

watching till the end of the vid... they are saying the hiatus is until 2029 i guess they lack the information of the contract validity court date???

[half knot]

her sister too, changed her face slightly, changed her name, still went on to have a decent career

[blazing sky]

i just responded to why i am hypothesizing why they could be lying/sugarcoating/exaggerating idk they could also just be telling the whole truth we dont knowww

[hollow adder]

why would they need to exaggerate in court tho lol, i get it for public perception but in court if its under legal grounds then theres not much room to exaggerate without it becoming baseless claims. i mean u see how hard it is to prove that the manager told their group to ignore hanni

[glossy siren]

t-ara before the scandal was competing with snsd in terms of popularity, to make you understand the damage that scandal did

[night niche]

why is this a thing to be hypothesized though 😭

[half knot]

again if they were going to exaggerate in court, they would have won that injunction

[surreal raft]

what we yapping about now guys

[night niche]

idek atp 💀

[blazing sky]

i feel like its going over your heads i just said if you could choose between leaving your company for free or pay millions of dollars how far would you go to leave your company for free

[half knot]

in fact, they underexaggerated so much the judge was like "why are y'all here?"

[blazing sky]

i dont blame them bc no company is going to sign them with that amount of debt, if they have the chance to win for free in court id take it 100%

[hoary frost]

tf, no one knows how long the hiatus will last. 😭 Honestly, these videos that are made without even having concrete research beforehand make me sick

[night niche]

dang NBC couldn’t even get it right american news is cooked

[half knot]

NBC has been a lost cause for a decade

[blazing sky]

i dont think any of them are outright spewing lies of things that never happened but i wouldnt put it over anyone to sugar coat or fib a bit tbh bc i get it they deserve independence esp bc they were gonna be dungeoned

[night niche]

most american news sources have been doomed but it’s been worse ever since you know who

[half knot]

I get what you are saying, but can you cite a single example of what you think they exaggerated, sugar coated or lied about? the court ruling is right out in the open.

[night niche]

honestly for NBC it kind of just depends on which reporter atp its rough out here 💀

[hollow adder]

bro just stop suggesting it lol 💀 they wouldnt

[quartz creek]

They are saying the contract for the group in general would end in 2029, just like other groups. They are not talking about the hiatus though. In fact, NJZ themselves said the hiatus would only be temporary, so although I can’t promise it won’t be short nor long unknowingly, no worries.

[lucid yarrow]

if they win next month we back if not more waiting

[half knot]

there are many ways this will go and antiquity did a good job of compiling multiple potential outcomes

[hot girder]

the goat

[old ingot]

The Hiatus could potentially already end when the next court hearing is over, since if the contract with ador gets terminated then the injunction will too.

[half knot]

they can always just terminate it outright with the penalty fee outcome if they don't win their case

and then just wait for ador to sue them for penalties, because no court in south korea would grant ador half a trillion won in damages lol

[hollow adder]

i hope so , that was my intial takeaway from their speech after the performance, that it would just be a few months until the court cases are sorted

[blazing sky]

i mean at njz level of fame they could, at least if a company were to sign them they could

[half knot]

nah

[blazing sky]

if its individual i doubt it too itll probably be extremely less

[half knot]

not even the top earning idols earn that much, total blackpink net worth isn't even that much.

[old ingot]

Yeap thats also why the Injinction could really be ruled in NJZ favor even if they came with the better statements, since if the injuction didnt get put up, there would be no reason for a court hearing on the actual contract, as well as it would be assumed that the contract was terminated in that hearing which they ofc couldnt

[half knot]

heck, total BTS members' net worth isn't even 450 million dollars.

JYP himself doesn't even have 450 million dollars net worth.

we're talking stupid money for a bunch of 20 and under teenagers to be demanded of. there are even provisions in law and regulations and prohibit such penalties even if it is in the contract.

[old ingot]

NJZ when they left ador caused a spike of 500million korean yuan, so I am guessing that will be their penalty fee + a little bonus maybe (due to what NJZ could've earned the company) -- Atleast if I remember correctly

[night niche]

does anyone have any other suggestions for documents right now? i currently have

• referring to NJZ as “pedojeans”
• deep dive into mhj and her controversies

[hollow adder]

i have a good feeling about their objection, even if they did it just for the sake of it i think they might have something else that they didnt have prepared before

[night niche]

the mhj is gonna take me a minute, finding reliable sources is tough for this one

[craggy skiff]

I dont think hybe will let it end this easy.
They will try their best to slow the court processing down as long as possible

[hollow adder]

wait whats this about?

[copper current]

everything,

[half knot]

I have a feeling the objection hearings will fall roughly around the same time as the main court hearings first or second sessions, so IF THERE IS ANYTHING they held back for the sake of the main case, they can present it at the objection for a positive outcome. big cope dose of course.

[copper current]

they did but not enough, I don't sit still, I went to Korean videos and beg people to help

[old ingot]

Yes defindly, I 100% agree, its also good to have as a reference back too for further court cases, sinse their prior arguemnts from that case is still valid and tied to the current court case.

[night niche]

i’ve made a couple of documents about NJZ’s and posted them here

[kindred estuary]

you can check these 2 threads from thegreatgaram at X:

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1871593591271010329

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1872522872222335215

XOXO 🤍 GG (@thegreatgaram) on X

Debunking the Pann post that torpedoed the MHJ allegations

(🔬 DeepDive) (🔎 Insight)
https://t.co/B7uB8V5F8L

X · Dec 24, 2024, 4:27 PM

XOXO 🤍 GG (@thegreatgaram) on X

Debunking the allegations that MHJ loves pdf themed media (🔬 DeepDive) (📷 Insight)

https://t.co/JKOhZb892s

X · Dec 27, 2024, 6:00 AM

[copper current]

you should send to team bunnies and NJZ official. They may be beneficial for them

[old ingot]

oh 1000% no doubt there, if they could they would make court last till the members are dead, so they couldnt produce nothing without their permission

[copper current]

I don't sit still, I went to Korean news videos and posted and asked people to think about NJZ and changed their opinions about NJZ, hopefully it makes some sense to someone

[night niche]

is team bunnies on twt?

[copper current]

yes and NJZ as well

https://x.com/NJZ_official

(@) on X

X

[hollow adder]

pls dm links or send again here

[copper current]

Team bunnies: https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

Team Bunnies #NJZ

X

[night niche]

thanks for the twt links

[night niche]

i’ll look into it!

[copper current]

yeah, i am the type of person when i want to protect something, I have to take some actions to feel at ease

[hollow adder]

thxxx , and also some suggestions since u asked theres that plagiarism case . also soumu leaking predebut stuff idk if u wrote abt that yet

[hoary frost]

[night niche]

thanks for the suggestions! i may just make a big paper about all of hybe’s subsidiary companies and what they’ve done into one big paper but we’ll see

[jolly junco]

hey can you DM me your documents that you have written? i saw it before but i havent read it

[night niche]

they’re all up here!

[jolly junco]

you can DM @opaque torrent for sources, she can help you

[night niche]

im also probably gonna make a paper about how to find reliable sources in media because i think some of yall need it 💀

[red thorn]

Dm mhj

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/samibiwer/status/1904108294576468085

[narrow seal]

250324 x____kimsam (@​samibiwer) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/samibiwer/status/1904108294576468085
@PoppyKPoppie I’ve lived in Korea for over 15y, and to me, the NJZ situation is more than just business. It reflects a deeper desire for change within Korean society — and perhaps beyond. People are no longer afraid to question power structures, even in the entertainment industry.

[night niche]

so rn the pending papers are:

• referring to NJZ as “pedojeans”
• deep dive into mhj and her controversies
• hybe and its subsidiaries companies (source, belift, etc.)
• plagiarism court case
• how to find reliable sources in news and in the media, for NJZ’s case and for life in general

[hoary frost]

people's "reliable sources" being reddit

[night niche]

when i said this they said i was “lacking nuance” for saying reddit wasn’t a reliable source, be so fr 💀

[half knot]

the same kinds of people who are happy AI will write their papers for them and then cite wikipedia on it

[cinder narwhal]

write a paper on the reaction of the korean public before and after the injunction results

[surreal raft]

I am that type of person guys

[half knot]

change

[hoary frost]

[surreal raft]

IM JOKINGGG

wow you guys believe anything

[hoary frost]

it's the trauma

[copper current]

You can mark high priority to the paper and MHJ case should be the lowest priority, NJZ is the highest priority

[night niche]

i’ve literally gotten into arguments with people for saying wikipedia isn’t a reliable source 💀

trying use wikipedia in an academic paper and see how your teacher will react 😭

[night niche]

yeah the “pedojeans” paper will be the first one to be out

[night niche]

there’s some mad people in this server 💔

[high totem]

korean netizens or public? i would assume the weird hate comments on news articles might be separate from the general public's opinion

[jolly junco]

why so?

[half knot]

there's no cure to rabies sadly

[cinder narwhal]

idk I dont have a wide enough viewpoint of either, that's why i wanna know

[high totem]

a lot of those netizens are just chronically online haters
i think the general public would have more varied opinions

[jolly junco]

yeah, but it would be hard to gather opinions on general public since he is not in korea

[high totem]

yes ofc lol
netizens opinions just change all the time

[jolly junco]

but maybe you should mention it as well that korean netizens and korean general public might have a different opinion @night niche

[cinder narwhal]

do you write this for school or just for fun? are you a big yapper like juan and the rest on x?
i appreciate it btw

[jolly junco]

we can see from videos spreading around that the general public are still in support of NJZ

[night niche]

it’d be pretty hard for me to get proper data on what the korean general public thinks but i could try to do it to the best of my abilities
knets change their opinion every 2 business days so im not entirely sure if i could get the best data on that either, but again i could try

[cinder narwhal]

from the limited stuff i saw the turnaround was crazy, it gave me whiplash

[night niche]

a mix of both actually, im a big government nerd, i plan on minoring in music production in the future, and im currently doing a huge research project thats around 35% of my grade in one of my classes about record labels vs. artist autonomy, so these are both for me personally and academically

[high totem]

from the people in korea ive talked to most of them are neutral or in more support of njz than hybe
maybe you could write about netizens hypocrisy

[night niche]

from what i’ve seen i think they do

[cerulean lake]

hope they still have at least some domestic support even if it withered down. they’ve been supporting them the most throughout this whole drama and having this one injunction ruin everything is just sad.

[copper current]

I think Hybe is using pr tag in Korea now on all of news video. Who loves Hybe and Ador this much to defend them

[jolly junco]

HYBE and their subsidiaries

[copper current]

Some Korean thug in news videos about NJZ asked me about my nationality and I told him who are you? are you my mother to know me? Just know that don't defend an evil corportation and just think of NJZ as you a small citizen who is oppressed by big evil corporation

[surreal raft]

KOREAN THUG??

[red thorn]

Tag pr for global, Minglespoon for domestic

[night niche]

random thing i’d like to add is, south korea’s score on CPI (corruption perceptions index) is a 64/100, which is good compared to highly corrupt countries (such as iran) but that is not a high bar to reach at all especially considering korea’s level of development

this means korea’s government has issues with transparency, chaebol (conglomerate) influence, political scandals and weak accountability for corporations, a lack of transparency, and many others

in my government class we have to talk about this a lot 😮‍💨

[frozen granite]

Someone send me the nytimes article they dropped of Njz asap rocky please

[wary hearth]

i have a question,

what are we doing about sniper22 and aespannjeanz

[hot girder]

report

[wary hearth]

i know but what steps/what do i report them on? violent speech?

[warm void]

ignore them

[frozen granite]

What if this is the year Njz gets hate, but next year it will turn around? This usually happens in kpop or with artists in general

Even the turnaround is not as bad as I thought tbh

[cinder narwhal]

if mhj surprise dropped a new group and you liked the music, would you support? or actively stay away?

[fleet nebula]

we just vibin' out, enjoying life, not worrying about a thing 🙂

[frozen granite]

Support tbh

[night niche]

cause i hate the idol industry i haven’t actively supported a group since NJZ so most likely no

[frozen granite]

Are you mhj? Are you dropping a new group ?

[cinder narwhal]

let me cook

[night niche]

How Media Play is Shaping NJZ’s Image
✔ HYBE’s influence over the media ensures the narrative favors ADOR/HYBE.
✔ Negative press about NJZ spreads faster due to sensationalism and biased reporting.
✔ Portal sites like Naver & Daum filter trending news, shaping public perception.
✔ Cultural values (loyalty, hierarchy) make the "betrayal" narrative powerful.

a sneak peak into my next paper 😮‍💨

[cinder narwhal]

ksh issue got buried coz of this 💀

[waxen musk]

I was backreading for a while but this thread is just miserable. I'm not sure what the point of regurgitating topics from the past yet again was. Nothing changed with the discussions this time compared the previous times.

I can't wait to read more of your papers antiquity.

[frozen granite]

Miserable tokkis

[waxen musk]

I'm not sure which papers you wrote I missed yesterday.

[night niche]

i posted them all right here

[waxen musk]

Thanks. I think I only missed one.

[night niche]

when im done with all the papers i plan on completing yesterday, im gonna make a google drive so its easier for everyone to access

[frozen granite]

Am I the only one who feels not as tense with the hiatus ? I guess I just don’t feel on edge

[waxen musk]

Ok isn't the word I'd use.

[frozen granite]

Hmm let me rephrase it then

[night niche]

thank you im glad you guys enjoy/learn something from them

[frozen granite]

There

[waxen musk]

Are you posting them to a wider audience than just in here?

[frozen granite]

I feel like we will need this week to do something else bc next week is going to be a huge one ..

[night niche]

im not sure yet, i could possibly post them on x or open up an instagram account to post them as well

[frozen granite]

Brace yourselves

[night niche]

i can’t believe i just called it “x” did elon get to me

[waxen musk]

For the past few weeks, not just with NJZ news but with other negative situations in my life, I've been feeling so numb to it all and very emotionless. Yesterday I watched Flow, it just came out here in the UK. It's a movie that that is very up for interpretation. It's something you experience and feel rather than think about. But it just put me in this mood of feeling any type emotions again. I was trying very hard not to break down in the cinema especially when the movie isn't even worthy of that, people around me would not understand. But I really wanted to. If it wasn't a public space, I would have broken down. I'm a bit sad I didn't though because I needed it. This got me thinking about how the girls holding in their tears might be feeling too and even that thought alone is really sad.

[frozen granite]

Please take care of yourself! I suggest journaling. Feelings all those things at the same time is ok, but it’s also taxing. Be kind to yourself. I know how that all feels

[cerulean lake]

idk i still see his vids getting a lot of views on the korean side

plus he’s literally an A-list actor so i hope they go back to him more considering he actually committed some devious stuff

[night niche]

i completely understand this, during the month of november, it was a very, very rough time for me. the 2024 election, my aunt passed away from cancer right before a huge marching performance i was supposed to have, and it was her last chance to ever see it. i found out on the bus ride there. when you go through rough events in life, sometimes you feel a type of numbness that’s inexplicable to anyone. and then you find a median to finally let your emotions flow again. take care of yourself, maybe it’ll take a while, but the numbness goes away, even faster if you have a support system with you. the girls are going through a tough time right now, but they have each other, they have their family, and they have the strength and support they get from fans, im sure they were really uplifted from the support from yesterday. whatever is in the dark always comes to the light, and there is always light at the end of the tunnel.

[cerulean lake]

Yeah I can see how you might feel especially if we originally thought they were going to be okay. Hope you can find a new hobby in the meantime so it’s not as bad. Trying different sports might be cool! Been trying to do more golfing and I would imagine the balls being BSH 🤬

[night niche]

sorry that was a whole yap session but i think it’s important

[cerulean lake]

rest in peace to your aunt

[night niche]

thank you 💛

[waxen musk]

This got me thinking about how the girls holding in their tears might be feeling too and even that thought alone is really sad.
It's sad because the girls feel like they might have to hold in their tears. It really doesn't help.

[cerulean lake]

hopefully we all get through this and can be happy again as a fandom

[waxen musk]

I've heard other people talk about this type of numbness before but I can't remember feeling it to this degree in my life. And of course it really isn't all to do with NJZ but I'm not denying it's a very large part.

Anyway everyone watch Flow, it's amazing.

[cerulean lake]

Yeah it’s been kinda tough at school and I was hoping that the results wouldn’t be like this because I like to watch their content in the free time that I have but it is what it is 😪

[waxen musk]

I was planning on going to Barcelona but planning it with my mum last night was just a nightmare. She's very picky with the hotels. She was clearly very stressed planning things on such a last minute timeline. But hopefully I can find some enjoyment there. I will need it. I'm very lucky I can go.

And thanks antiquity for sharing your story. I'm sorry to hear about your aunt. I don't want to make it all about me but was hoping it helps. I hope everyone else is handling things ok too.

[cerulean lake]

Ooh barcelona is cool. eat the seafood there and enjoy visiting the churches. they’re really pretty. suggest going on one of those tour buses too. went there back in 2019

[waxen musk]

I don't even think this is the right thread to discuss all this but it doesn't matter too much the mods don't care.

[copper current]

yeah, I put hate/ blah blah don't remember, I reported many times, they are like cockroaches, live so long

[copper current]

No, NJZ is enough for me

[waxen musk]

It's just crazy to think I'm only sticking around because of how high the highs were with supporting NJZ these past two years. And it's been exactly two years now. What a crazy journey. It feels over for now. But hopefully it won't be over sooner than later.

[night niche]

random thing i’d like to add, if you guys have a problem tagging you in responses lmk, it’s a thing i do out of habit

[quartz creek]

Support! They’d probably be like NJZ daughter or son in some sort of way.

[copper current]

stick longer, I became fans around July last year so I will try to stay until the end to see

[waxen musk]

Do you know about this?

[night niche]

yep, i always have it on 😭

[waxen musk]

Yeah I manually turn it off as often as I can. It's annoying that it's the default. People don't need to be pinged all the time, they can take their time to respond. A ping just makes it seem urgent.

[night niche]

yknow im thinking about turning in one of my papers as extra credit in my government class

my teacher would be impressed, but he’s very sassy

[night niche]

i’ll add it to my movies list

[high totem]

somewhat related to njz so ill let it slide

[stable escarp]

popos here

[cerulean lake]

i’m trying to avoid kpop in general so i’m gonna say avoid for now

[quartz creek]

What do BNZ predict will happen when NJZ are back?

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1904363345337262103

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

Revolutionary Idols
https://t.co/yPZN9itMbL
By Kim Kwang-ho, Editorial Writer

On the 23rd, 뉴진스 announced a temporary suspension of their activities. This decision came two days after the Seoul Central District Court accepted ADOR’s request for an injunction to preserve its

X · Mar 25, 2025, 2:42 AM

[cinder narwhal]

*x -c https://x.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1904343180197462502

[harsh dove]

@sheepymcsheepy <t:1742865769:d>

This journalist gets it. NJZ are undoubtedly revolutionaries.

Only incels would ridicule them for standing up for themselves, against injustice.

https://m.khan.co.kr/article/202503241905001?utm_source=urlCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharing

[frozen granite]

CNN released an article about Njz take a look if you guys want & lmk your opinions about it

[cerulean lake]

at least one journalist has a backbone 👏

[cinder narwhal]

if it's new, share

[frozen granite]

Lmk what yall think https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/24/style/newjeans-hong-kong-show-intl-hnk

[kindred estuary]

wtf!....

https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1904364642413297972

NJZ Enthusiast (@haerinthequeenn) on X

why is dispatch writing an article about them buying NJZ goods at Complexcon just weird fake asf fck dispatch shouldn’t even be there

X · Mar 25, 2025, 2:48 AM

[frozen granite]

Did they write an article to insinuate that the products were too expensive or what?

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1904383292490805651

[narrow seal]

250325 팀 버니즈 (@​NewJeansSTRM) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1904383292490805651
https://t.co/3g4W7UgfRt

[jade jolt]

Translation if anyone wants it

[kindred estuary]

not that the products were expensive or anything, but they wrote something about what mhj said on last year's april press conference criticizing the random photocards on song albums and comparing it to the lottery if you purchased 3 or more items from the njz booth at complex con....

[frozen granite]

Team bunnies for the win !! We will be waiting !

Also, whatever happened to that one lawyer on twitter ? The one tokkis were calling uncle tokki or whatever

[red thorn]

Timberies 🙌

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1904385924332724396

[narrow seal]

250325 1tokki (@​juantokki) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1904385924332724396
[ENG]

Hello, this is Team Bunnies.

Following the release of the injunction ruling on March 21, Team Bunnies has been in contact with the members’ parents and the law firm Sejong LLC. Over the past few days, we have consulted extensively with Sejong and met with four major law

[frozen granite]

Nytimes reached ktokkis lol

[copper current]

It is like they are reading my comments and reassuring me, I believe in you Team bunnies, please save NJZ 🙏

[steel depot]

I love team bunnies

[copper current]

I believe in NJZ 100% but I don't believe in Korean government or judge, please prove me wrong

~t https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1904379291204489221

[narrow seal]

250325 PoppyKPoppie (@​PoppyKPoppie) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1904379291204489221
ador/hybe is operating like a syndicate to orchestrate a very well timed smear campaign against the members, mhj and this plan may include their parents, our fandom, some of their staff and ppl they have worked with. ig we as a fandom need to operate as a unit to counter this.

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/iseauseamee/status/1904367012132106722

[narrow seal]

250325 NJZ Fund (@​iseauseamee) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/iseauseamee/status/1904367012132106722
Remember, BNZ, we are now the voice of NJZ; do not be silent; continue to use our voice to correct misinformation or harrashment directed at NJZ. Protect them against Hybe and its cult.

[grizzled summit]

the hypocrisy of fearknots and armpits calling out danielle lip syncing when their faves do it all the time 💀

[stiff prairie]

timberwine timbernese timberies all refer to team bunnies right?

[red thorn]

All refer to Justin Timberlake

[stiff prairie]

btw did u guys see the cnn reel from yesterday? looks like besides typical kpop antis we managed to draw hate from right wingers asw that always shit on anything cnn and left news

[frozen granite]

I don’t think they are right wingers, I think they are just antis

Or some of the antis happen to be right wingers, I don’t think they are drawing extra hate

[stiff prairie]

pretty sure some of em were. then other commenters were bringing up them supporting trump etc

[jolly junco]

what is right wingers?

[frozen granite]

Then if they are, the latter comment I made makes more sense

[frozen granite]

Republicans

[stiff prairie]

conservative political belief leaning folks

[frozen granite]

Im looking at the comments, some of them just don’t care about kpop stuff I don’t think it necessarily pertains to Njz

[stiff prairie]

tru. i was mostly saying new right wing hate base as a joke since we don't have enough haters rn

[jolly junco]

we dont???

[frozen granite]

Bro we have a lot of haters rn lmao

[stiff prairie]

that was a joke too

[frozen granite]

But I believe Njz will come up victorious sooner or later

[stiff prairie]

lemme cope with a bit of humor pls

[frozen granite]

Anyway spread the cnn reel we do need the attention tbh

[stiff prairie]

for sure. but i'm thinking they should seriously think about other investments for buyout or smth if they lose the injunction appeal

potential 2 years wait would be v detrimental to their career. i mean ofc we'd be there even if it's longer but for them it's better to get some company investing in them so they can cont asap

[frozen granite]

Yeah, but don’t stress guys, we need to rest too … next week will be very intense I’m sure …

[stiff prairie]

ofc as others alr said hybe probably will be petty and ask for an impossible amount like the media says but who knows maybe they fold under a huge sum

[copper current]

Microsoft ? Google? Apple? Samsung? Nongshim? any compamy wants to invest. Indomie is a really good company

~t https://x.com/soyamoyas/status/1904384105992818968

[narrow seal]

250325 soy 🏎️🏁 (@​soyamoyas) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/soyamoyas/status/1904384105992818968
hybe mediaplay with 1000 news articles a day against NJZ by mustering all the stinky old men they can pay 🤢

[stiff prairie]

among all these i only see apple as viable option and that too isn't that much viable cause they never did that. only because they worked with njz before

[copper current]

anything can happen, if you told me Kim Soo Hyun and Kim Saeron before, I wouldn't batch my eyes, but yeah I just wish some miracle happens

[stiff prairie]

that's right. we need a miracle to things to our side sooner

my doom mentality woke up with me today. waiting 2 yrs for potentially not winning the case seems a bit too much

[cosmic belfry]

Maybe they can find a Genie and get granted three wishes

[wary creek]

who are the people in team bunnies?

[stiff prairie]

girls go free, we get newjeans ip, we don't have any dedicated anti fandom anymore yeah

[stiff prairie]

a group of k bunnies that did all the petitions, going after anti accounts, filing lawsuits against dispatch etc things

[wary creek]

ah okay cool

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1904391073621053917

[narrow seal]

250325 Mino (@​MinotaurKard) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/MinotaurKard/status/1904391073621053917
K and J BNZ have informed me that the antis are masquerading as fans and will be sending in Trucks, as well as starting a #hashtag trend for NJZ to come back to Ador.

This is a reminder that this does not come from the majority of K-J BNZ and to let all I-BNZ know that this is a

[stiff prairie]

what the

then should we do trucks to let hybe know their other groups want to leave or smth? the new fanwar era?

[jolly junco]

1 truck cost around $500 they sure are commited to someone they hate.....

[frozen granite]

Wasting money for a group you hate is weird

[stiff prairie]

anything goes on kpop huh

[rain spade]

??????????????

[cinder narwhal]

it's sponsored by hybe ofc

[craggy skiff]

Lol. That stupid. Njz hiatus for not work with fraudor. Keep pressures them just make them more hate and more determined.
Looks like hybe want to create the feeling that our fandom is separated

[frozen granite]

Am I the only one that Njz should be careful who they interact with? Just for the time being … antis can pretend to be tokkis

[sonic meadow]

I agree this can cause even more scandals/controversys in the future and it will be bad

[cerulean lake]

yeah don’t want another one of those taly situations coming again and i would also stay out of the public eye. i don’t want the media to try and stir things up

[frozen granite]

I have a question regarding that person can someone answer me via a dm I don’t want to talk about it here

Someone who actually has accurate information btw

Unless yall don’t mind me asking it here

[cinder narwhal]

new hashtag from kr #뉴진스는_어도어와_대화해라
"NewJeans talk to ADOR"

[red thorn]

PR campaign

[jolly junco]

crisis management, do not trust

true tokkis dont want the girls to go back to fraudor and hybe

[frozen granite]

Ok since no once answered I’ll just ask here

[cinder narwhal]

haha it's the same few accounts

[frozen granite]

Why are people saying that njz messaged her first ?? is that true or did she message them first ?

[wary creek]

was hybe always gunning to get rid of mhj? and did mhj really do anything illegal even if she wanted to takeover ador

[frozen granite]

How did they even start contacting each other ?

Honestly she should’ve answered those questions first before leaving to prevent the spread of misinformation

[cosmic belfry]

I don't think it would be strange for a number fans who want them to return. It comes from a place of care and concern. Even after their contract termination press conference there were fans that pleaded they worked out their issues with ADOR.

[jolly junco]

and see them suffering under HYBE? wtf

[frozen granite]

I was thinking that too …. I just wish she could’ve cleared that up in how they started talking before leaving bc tiktok is destroying njz for “messaging her”

[cosmic belfry]

I'm sure some of it is selfish (for them as a fan) but they are just being realists.

[cinder narwhal]

their Twitter has messages off so that's the common assumption

[red thorn]

That hash message in line with opinion from some industry officials: That this injunction ruling actually saved the girls, they back to ador they gonna free from penalty

[frozen granite]

Yeah I saw that comment going around too … agh she shouldn’t just talked to prevent all of this

[rain spade]

Go back to your mother's womb (to the person who commented that)

[frozen granite]

Anyway that was my question, thanks.

[upbeat stream]

Let me check their dc gallery. That'll tell us what our fandom actually thinks

[cinder narwhal]

i cant fit..

[frozen granite]

You’re nasty

[rain spade]

Bruh not you 😒

[cinder narwhal]

[frozen granite]

Drama queen

[short laurel]

They switching up their method cuz girls team are taking legal action against misinformation. That's what's happening

[cinder narwhal]

omg get off my back 😭

[frozen granite]

Btw how are you guys feeling? Hopeful? Relaxed? Tense? Angry? Sad? Hungry? Wanting to destroy HYBE ?

[upbeat stream]

Sad

[red thorn]

Chile

[upbeat stream]

I'm in the acceptance stage of grief 😔

[frozen granite]

Grieving is a repetitive cycle btw & go back & forth between stages & occur forever

[jolly junco]

i still trust the girls

[cerulean lake]

they lowkey had beef with her since 2020-2021 once they realized she was not gonna just follow their crap around and do whatever they say.

she did talk to someone about wanting to take over (like a hopeful/joke in a way?) but there were never any further actions that showed she actually planned it out and carried such illegal things out. all the former allegations they said about her contacting foreign investors were just left to dust after too.

[cinder narwhal]

I'm back to normal i dont feel what i said yesterday anymore

[frozen granite]

Nvm it didnt work

[cerulean lake]

mix of sad and angry and whole lot of wanting to blow up hybe

[frozen granite]

Do you guys want me to say something kind of pessimistic or no?

[cerulean lake]

nah

[upbeat stream]

ok so newjeans dc gallery is still like what you would expect. Their stance and conversations are similar to ours, so yeah, this hashtag campaign is either by antis or very casual fans

[steel depot]

yep... angry, anxious, but also hopeful

[cerulean lake]

i’m pessimistic enough already.

[upbeat stream]

I just checked

[frozen granite]

Ok I’ll keep whatever I was going to say dw

[jolly junco]

https://tenor.com/view/danielle-newjeans-danielle-newjeans-danielle-blessing-newjeans-danielle-gif-6508898223418531284

[cerulean lake]

i mean at least some ktokkis are still on their side and not just wanting them to submit to ador’s demands. smh

[upbeat stream]

https://tenor.com/view/danielle-newjeans-blink-happy-cute-gif-6892617801118925933

[jolly junco]

we need to cleanse the chat every once in a while

[orchid field]

Mfs really know to attack at the worst time

*x -c https://x.com/minotaurkard/status/1904401241029177598?s=46&t=FGOk5JcS6vsxMTTizzNPiQ

Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

If you find such hashes, DO NOT REQUOTE IT. DONT LOOK AT IT DONT REPOST IT DONT REPORT IT
PAY NO ATTENTION TO IT

Just let other I-BNZ know that the antis are portraying as fans to divide the fandom.

X · Mar 25, 2025, 5:13 AM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1904401241029177598 does not contain any media!

[cerulean lake]

no surprise. they always start this shit every time the girls and the fandom are vulnerable

[orchid field]

Yea we gotta help spread to not quote those fake ador accounts

[stiff prairie]

no why stop them. let them say it then other ppl can say positive stuff to change their mind or smth

[jolly junco]

Just you wait, today or tomorrow a new member will pop out of nowhere and start the campaign of why the girls should go back to fraudor

[upbeat stream]

I follow so many k-tokkis, they better not use this hashtag

[jolly junco]

If someone like that appear in here, just ignore and block them

[upbeat stream]

Let's see who does, I'm gonna block them obviously

[cinder narwhal]

report back here the accounts

[orchid field]

The ones who do are just fake accounts or antis pretending to be tokki

[stiff prairie]

i won't even be surpirised. even yesterday ppl had a huge mhj battle here. i wasn't here then just went thru some texts.

[orchid field]

Now you’re just repeating rumors

[jolly junco]

But if someone like that really appear in here please ping me, i want to troll them around

[stiff prairie]

the girls have clearly stated they'd take hiatus over ador. anyone that says they should go back to ador now is the biggest anti out there no matter how many tokki followers they have or albums they bought

[cinder narwhal]

let's not talk about rumors like that

[frozen granite]

This fandom never catches a break do they

[upbeat stream]

That's why I said, 'if that's so'. Not saying it's necessarily true

[jolly junco]

We are busy 24/7, its a warzone

[old cypress]

Hi does anyone have the translated ppts from shin & kim ?

[stiff prairie]

it was here weeks ago. you have a better chance of finding them in njbubblegum's twt account

[old cypress]

okay thanks

[jolly junco]

oh ppt sorry my bad

[old cypress]

yeah not this. Asking bc I need to find the context behind this statement : https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1902986654543134829

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

"I am thinking of damaging NewJeans' brand value to eliminate both NewJeans and MHJ together."
- Lee Jae-sang (CEO of HYBE)

X · Mar 21, 2025, 7:32 AM

[upbeat stream]

doesn't load for me

[jolly junco]

@rose turret bruh we really need active mod who can pin and unpin important messages in here

[rose turret]

I wish

@modern fog pls help here

[cinder narwhal]

promote jjerry to admin

[vital orbit]

i thought i was posting in #newjeans-chat mb

[rose turret]

Oh lmao aight

[kindred estuary]

from a k-tokki that translated the dispatch article

https://x.com/aarrttee01/status/1904407885796503904

.🩵 (@aarrttee01) on X

🚨NJZ 스토킹했던 디스패치가, complexCon 취재하고,버니즈를 조롱하는 기사씀.이 사진에 찍힌 버니즈는 DM주세요.제보할게요 
🚨Dispatch, which stalked NJZ, covered ComplexCon and wrote an article mocking Bunnies. If you’re any of the Bunnies in these photos, please DM me. I’ll report🚨

X · Mar 25, 2025, 5:39 AM

[vital orbit]

THE MIN HEEJIN COSPLAYS HAHAH

[orchid field]

I was there i saw the all four of them

[vital orbit]

hope this is true and NJZ can find solid evidence to present in court so that whoever is trying to sabotage them gets fucked

[jolly junco]

what are they doing?

[orchid field]

They were just hanging around complexcon, the entire convention became a bunnies gathering. that day everywhere you looked was njz merch from every generation

[old cypress]

it's in the injunction report but judge dismissed it because he doesn't represent ador

[orchid field]

But he is the ceo of the company with the most shares of ador how is that not valid 💀

fucked up

[frozen granite]

Maybe this could be brought in the main lawsuit ?

NJZ are truly warriors

[vital orbit]

what the fuck who cares if he doesnt represent ADOR??

its bc the injunction is exclusively between ADOR & NJZ right? hope NJZ files a lawsuit / gets a chance to push this to the light in a lawsuit where HYBE is involved

[old cypress]

yeah it's fucked up. For the main lawsuit I think the laywers need to establish that ador is hybe's puppets

[frozen granite]

Well fraudor

[jolly junco]

rigged court 💀

[frozen granite]

we have to be mentally prepared for next week we really don’t know what could happen

[old cypress]

Anyway this was new evidence so I wanted to know where it came from, I'll look into the PPT shin & kim submitted

[vital orbit]

in a way its not rigged since hYbE dId iT nOt aDoR but

[jolly junco]

for a moment they are 1 entity but they are different entity when they need it, how convenient

[frozen granite]

Also f tokkis who switched up on njz

[vital orbit]

tokki map creators should make another site where u dedicate song lyrics to NJZ

id pick lyrics from start a war by jennie

[jolly junco]

zones wouldnt create something to accomodate a fanwar

[vital orbit]

me when im literally the victim but my opponent has pokémon evolutions for some fucking reason:

[rain spade]

Bet that hair of his is fake asf

[vital orbit]

fanwar where ? just dedicate lyrics
unless ur referring to the possibility of ppl spamming butter by bts lyrics which.. fair point

imagine if hanni performed my boo due to the similarities between it and NJ1 demo

[modern fog]

what's up

[vital orbit]

.

[stiff prairie]

you need to link jhin to the messages that need to be pinned otherwise he'd be lost

[vital orbit]

i believe this one

#1231839760759263232 message

[vital orbit]

tenkyu i didnt know
ngl i forget that msg links are a thing.. just now realising thats how you guys tag the thread in njz chat

[modern fog]

I'll clean pinned messages later

[jolly junco]

not that one, we were searching for the sources but it was flooded for weeks and its not pinned

[cerulean lake]

they should prove that hybe and ador are acting as one entity. how is firing ador’s old board and filling them up with hybe’s higher up officials not them literally making ador under hybe’s control? this is so stupid and so is the law

[vital orbit]

oh oop....

~~i love spreading misinformation ~~

[stiff prairie]

that's what i was thinking cause it's just a quote from an article of court ruling

[cerulean lake]

omg i keep saying i’ll take a break but i keep coming back.

[stiff prairie]

someone should find both kim and shin and sejong ppt and post it here and tag jhin after

[frozen granite]

Drama queen

[thorny knot]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1904385924332724396

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

[ENG]

Hello, this is Team Bunnies.

Following the release of the injunction ruling on March 21, Team Bunnies has been in contact with the members’ parents and the law firm Sejong LLC. Over the past few days, we have consulted extensively with Sejong and met with four major law

X · Mar 25, 2025, 4:12 AM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1904385924332724396 does not contain any media!

[rose turret]

Help something here

[old cypress]

https://x.com/RunforNJZ/status/1898401668632592502

RuNnieZ🏁🏎️ (@RunforNJZ) on X

가처분 심문기일 ppt 디패 공개분 모음(1)

X · Mar 8, 2025, 3:53 PM

that's all i can find, side to side ppt slides released by dispatch. Wonder if the full ppt was ever released

[kindred estuary]

i guess we dont need until next week to find out

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1904391073621053917

Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

K and J BNZ have informed me that the antis are masquerading as fans and will be sending in Trucks, as well as starting a #hashtag trend for NJZ to come back to Ador.

This is a reminder that this does not come from the majority of K-J BNZ and to let all I-BNZ know that this is a

X · Mar 25, 2025, 4:33 AM

[frozen granite]

They really want to erase njz lmao they feel so threatened it’s funny

Also teambunnies should really make a TikTok

[red thorn]

It seems that specific ppt not disclosed to public, the source probably from report article https://m.news.nate.com/view/20250321n23426

The partially disclosed ppt
https://njb-jj.notion.site/250307-ADOR-Creditor-v-NJZ-Debtor-Oral-Argument-Slides-for-the-First-Hearing-Date-of-the-Exclu-1b21279fe54e80f59122d384ba4b46cb

[stiff prairie]

this is hybe's lawyers' ppt right?

[red thorn]

Both

[stiff prairie]

oh yea my bad

this is the most comprehensive tl-ed ppt out there right?

@modern fog pin the notion site. this one's fr

[hollow sorrel]

all the mediaplay happening right now tells me HYBE knows they lost

why would they release thousands of negative articles about a girlgroup that’s eventually going to return to them??? (if HYBE wins ofc)
(I know they wanted to ostracize them from the beginning, but NewJeans were still one of the main money makers of the company and the most successful gg under them so it just doesn’t make sense)

[cinder narwhal]

or they're applying pressure trying to break them

[craggy skiff]

They know newjeans wont back any way
Win or lose, they will damage this group as well

[orchid field]

real

[rain spade]

Hybe ain't breaking them

[frozen granite]

I hate that njz is losing a lot of followers bc of the mediaplay … I swear someone with good communication skills & accurate information should open up a TikTok to debunk all of what’s going on bc TikTok is seriously bad

[vital orbit]

dont get me wrong id fuckin love for losing NJZ to be a huge loss for them but currently i dont think thats the case - theres a chance that to them NJZ is a mere obstacle in the way of LE SSERALIT's success since all they would care about anyways is how good an artist's reputation is & the profit that comes from them

[vital orbit]

all love to lsfm and illit btw theyre both fantastic i hope the relationship between and them and NJZ is still strong somehow

its unfortunate that pit stop isnt an official release — can you imagine the charts if it was?

[stable escarp]

Oml tiktok is actually vile right now. Ive never had any hate videos in my feed but all of a sudden brand new accs and accs with some following have just been posting and smearing NJZ's music, the members, the whole ordeal and more. TAG Pr upping their investment into their smear campaign istg

[vital orbit]

what does tag stand for? The ADOR Group??

[stable escarp]

From what i know its Hybe America's media sector which has done numerous smear campaigns against several celebrities. No idea what TAG stands for tho

[cosmic belfry]

It stands for The Agency Group

[vital orbit]

america??? theyre trying so hard

i doubt murica gives a fuck theyll js be like "oh well" and stream super shy

[vital orbit]

well streaming super shy doesnt benefit njz but you get what i mean

[vital orbit]

INTL fans are somewhat more logical than korean ones

[stable escarp]

No locals really care. Its just to spread misinformation on atleast the surface level. The kpop space however, some fandoms, take it as fact. Nothing we can really do until the final verdict comes out to shut them up

[vital orbit]

yea uh why do some rottis (im gonna call them rot-tis instead of tokkis/antis) lack basic common sense

if a tiktok/short/piece of media lacks evidence for its accusations why are you agreeing with it

[vital orbit]

saw a short couple of days ago that was talking ab njz mocking suga & jungkook and whatnot
minimal proper evidence provided

at some point the video was just footage of njz without any screenshots layered on top

[stable escarp]

People choose what they want to believe in most of the time and thats especially true in spaces as big as fandoms. Kpop fans have always jumped onto whatever conclusion for a scandal despite lacking evidence. I see most fandoms as a bunch of sheep (not to belittle them personally, but their mindset)

[cerulean lake]

no people are literally brain dead. there was a vid of njz in 2023 discussing what names they should have during a live as a joke and people thought that they were already plotting this whole drama since that day. i don’t know whether to laugh or be scared for our future 🤨

[vital orbit]

HYBE when NewJeans start talking bout sum' 'ModernPantaloons'

[cerulean lake]

yes exactly they’re all sheeps that follow whatever they see without forming a critical opinion for themselves

[lucid yarrow]

rage bait is big right now and ppl are making money on ton platform doing it just don't fall for all the clickbait all we can do is report stupid stuff

[cerulean lake]

anyways that’s why i prefer changing my tiktok algorithm to no kpop now. tiktok is fun but i also feel like it has the most illiterate and young people on that app who cannot form opinions for themselves!

[cerulean lake]

from what i see, they’re both bad

[vital orbit]

im on both antiNJZ and proNJZ
shits great tbh, when u get insights from both it really helps get ur own stance on the situation

[cerulean lake]

yeah the company that was hired against amber heard and blake lively, which did significant damage to their reputations. we all know why hybe bought them out especially when so much damage can be done internationally.

[stiff prairie]

i've seen so many things on tiktok. bunnies quoting sniper,aespanjeans to hate on mhj, hanni, recently that hyein and haerin doesn't wanna leave ador among other things. it's just sad atp. but tiktok has the best edits and memes out there too so it's kinda double edged sword

[cerulean lake]

yeah i rather not get mad seeing senseless people in the comments/vids

[vital orbit]

i do that but theres also more logical arguments (which are also hate vids since theyre given with a snarky attitude), though those are rare

[cerulean lake]

props to yall tho. idk how yall can still go around even when there’s hate lurking around on every app. i just don’t wanna get mad 🤣

[cinder narwhal]

https://fixupx.com/njznjzn/status/1904443223923396794

妮蔻 ‘🧸🦦🐱🐶🐹’ (@njznjzn)

so they’re really out here desperately sliding into DMs, begging a big fan acc to spread a hashtag for njz so they might consider to go back to ador because apparently the only way to protect njz’s future. but they never engage with relevant fan accounts. ador pls be serious

Quoting 시몽키 (@Cm0ngkey)
︀
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ이게 구라겠지 생각했는데 진짜여..

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FixupX · Mar 25, 2025, 8:00 AM

oh man fixup can now post quote tweets W dev

[stiff prairie]

who's the one sending the text?

[vital orbit]

desperately need a translation
time to download google lens

[red thorn]

KJY made account and plead to big tokki account in dm

[vital orbit]

Translated with Google Lens. Try it yourself!
https://g.co/lenstranslate

[stiff prairie]

Subject: Urgent Request Regarding NewJeans

"Hello, I apologize for suddenly sending you a DM. I'm writing to ask if you could please post a hashtag campaign calling for NewJeans to talk with ADOR. The reason I'm requesting this is that you are a fan account with a large number of followers, and I believe many fans will see your post. I apologize for asking this of you. #NewJeansTalkToADOR

I know you support NJ (NewJeans), but if they don't return to ADOR now, the group's existence itself is at stake. I sincerely request your help. Rather than halting all activities and paying a huge penalty due to years of lawsuits, I believe it's in NewJeans' best interest to separate from CEO Min Hee-jin and return to ADOR to continue their activities. Please, please help me. Time is running out, and I'm worried they won't be able to return even if they regret it later. That's why I'm asking you so shamelessly. If they go to the main lawsuit, NewJeans..."

[vital orbit]

which one sent first

[stiff prairie]

oh u alr sent it lol my bad

[fast snow]

Real

[vital orbit]

no we sent it at the same time, yours is better anyways

as much as HYBE is doing so many fucked up things, i cant help but feel a tiny bjt bad for the new ador ceo, she seems like a nice lady?? (knowing that she also may or may not have bad intentions towards the girls) i cant explain it

[vital orbit]

not even showing support for the woman, just saying you would think shes a sweet lady at surface level

[stiff prairie]

Bro u missed the hanni NA era I think. When hanni told the new ceo the security guy couldn't look at her when saying he doesn't have the footage or deleted it he couldn't look her at her eyes. And the CEO told her well I'm looking at you and hanni went speechless. She was handpicked by bsh to be in mhj's position and control the girls from there. There were also things she did like claiming Tokyo dome success among other things as her credit instead of mhj, the one that actually did those

[cinder narwhal]

is haerin doing a keena?!
https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1904407757413105826

pannchoa (@pannchoa) on X

Picture of NewJeans having breakfast without Haerin spark online conspiracies
https://t.co/87ZWyjz6Mz

X · Mar 25, 2025, 5:39 AM

[red thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-conspiracy-time-tin-foil-hat-gif-20017112

[stiff prairie]

pannchoa being pannchoa again lol

[stable escarp]

Haerin snoozing

[stiff prairie]

Btw so now our update outlet is the off chance of bunnies finding them irl and taking pics

[red thorn]

Bunnies gonna spreading missing posters

[young wyvern]

so is njz going back to ador or...

sorry im out of the loop

[vital orbit]

i was fully tgere for the NA era and ive been fully following the NJZ lore, im talking about her at a surface level, what u said is what shes actually like

[stiff prairie]

Bro they announced hiatus so no they're not going back to ador

[vital orbit]

not yet — nothing official has come out but scroll up a bit and youll see ADOR begging for NJZ to come back

[stiff prairie]

Ohh at surface level yeah. She cried and said emotional things about them. Things like seeing their faces everyday etc. ppl that are ootl would think she's such a nice person lol

[young wyvern]

hopefully they can figure out something. if the court ruling was that the contract was still valid the only way to get out of it is to further appeal or pay a huge fine to break it. i hope its works out for them

[craggy skiff]

at lease they know how they are 👍

[craggy skiff]

❌ keena
✅ sleep

[young wyvern]

this is probably nothing to worry about. she could just be sleep lol

[orchid field]

[storm warren]

how many times girls need to speak up for people to realize that they will never split

[orchid field]

until the hybe building collapses 😭

[split bramble]

its just mediaplay, they'll come at the girls from every angle

[orchid field]

even when we win hybe will probably keep this shit up

[upbeat stream]

Are they gonna stop posting on njz instagram? Please this is so heartbreaking. We and they have suffered so much, can't they at least be allowed social media? 😢

[storm warren]

theyre dumb! they were standing at HK stage 24 hours ago, talking about their choice with full determination

they're allowed to use sns, but probably not under NJZ name

they dont want to open individual ones

[orchid field]

hyein has one

[storm warren]

it is her mom's tbf

[orchid field]

less than 100k followers is criminal

[storm warren]

well it is better that it wont get swarmed by antis

[craggy skiff]

dont know yet. They may just need sometime to rest after this mess.

[upbeat stream]

I follow hundreds of k-tokkis on twt. And none of them are engaging with that hashtag bullshit. There's nothing about it on our dc gal either. So safe to say that hybe's attemp failed, almost no real tokki has done that so far, let's hope it stays that way

[orchid field]

yeah pack it up hybe nobody likes youuuu

[sweet pebble]

still buggin me that ador won the injunction after presenting a proven wrong cctv footage🙁

[hoary frost]

Y'all I'm casting a voo doo spell on ador, hybe, and that hideous looking thing bsh. Wish me luck. 🍀🤞

[rain spade]

Black magic too please, thank you

[jolly junco]

Amen

I’m gonna give you all my energy for the spiritual ritual

[frozen bronze]

im suddenly getting so many <5k view videos about this saying njz is under fire and are on hiatus

i never watch yt surrounding this topic

[orchid field]

those are called drama accounts who mention njz for views because they are jobless and lame

[void cove]

https://www.kpoppost.com/complete-reasons-behind-the-ruling-on-ador-x-njz-newjeans-injunction/

Recently i found this site where there are a lot of news, today they posted a summary about njz. Someone already know this site and think it's reliable?
I'm trying to catch up on the latest news and there are a lot of fakes on web

[orchid field]

never heard of this site, next

[ashen charm]

should team bunnies be involved in something this big idk im worried

[mild mist]

Probably slept in
It is haerin we're talking about

[ashen charm]

haerin is going solo

[steel depot]

she probably ordered room service

or slept in

[ashen charm]

she got jumped

[orchid field]

Room service on god she a bougie princess

[ashen charm]

haerin leaving njz is crazy

[mental lynx]

also i think that was the morning where they left hongkong , haerin probably slept longer

media going crazy again smh

[ashen charm]

acording to pannchoa njz is ot4 and haerin is off the team 😭

[orchid field]

What media is just him and his fragile ego

[mild mist]

Well if you remember yesterday it was hyein who wanted to separate and to stay at ADOR

[night niche]

~t https://x.com/stardustminji/status/1904315433315950990

[narrow seal]

250324 Brad (@​stardustminji) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/stardustminji/status/1904315433315950990
my heart is broken

[ashen charm]

https://tenor.com/view/go-on-peter-griffin-family-guy-gif-6930495361618715143

[surreal raft]

guys I need help I’m in a gc and people are trying to say that hanni lied can anyone give me proof that she didn’t bc i know she didn’t lie RIGHT GUYS

[night niche]

lie abt what specifically

[surreal raft]

they said a lot of things and idek what that means

[night niche]

because people say she’s lied about a lot of things which she hasn’t

[night niche]

sigh people man

[night niche]

tell them to give you actual proof instead of a youtube channel

[copper current]

Hanni has never lied. Don’t believe twisted narrative. Hybe used wrong video to paint bad image about her

[surreal raft]

thank you

[night niche]

let us know what they say afterwards

[night niche]

hmm

[surreal raft]

THEY ALL GANGING UP ON ME

[night niche]

say if you’re gonna throw around accusations about an idol instead have actual proof ready to type up instead of redirecting them to a youtube channel, regardless of the video length

[night niche]

stay strong buddy 😭

is this a group chat or a discord channel

[surreal raft]

A channel

I need saving they all jumping on me for liking njz..

[night niche]

bro 😭 this is why i don’t hang out in most kpop servers they believe all the media play

what are they even saying now?

[surreal raft]

bring up Korea boo articles..

I know Korea boo is shit already

“My father is a lawyer” girl bye

[night niche]

madness 💀

[short laurel]

Just show them hanni's video for that live. That's the best proof.

[night niche]

just because your dad is a police officer does that mean you can go out and do police work? these people are mental

[night niche]

and hanni didn’t interrupt the judge i’m writing a paper on this

[hot girder]

from so called "law students" we now have "my [family member] is a lawyer"

[leaden thistle]

ye i heard from my friend just now saying a lot of ppl already start giving the unsupportive or trashtalk attitude, no matter what they just dont care anymore, is not just hanni, ppl also giving up and tired of seeing njz keep on fighting against a company that they cant win against, i think all we do is just stay away from those ppl, we cant do shit

[red thorn]

I watched the vid in context, spined the narration or victim of spined narration = not accurate infos

[short laurel]

U can't argue with them cuz they are so stupid they spend their time hating on others instead of supporting their idols

[surreal raft]

why they jumping on one person bc of njz like damn it’s never that serious

[night niche]

no need to continue arguing with them since they’re willfully being dense… just say whatever is in the dark always comes to the light, that’s a motto i live by

[hot girder]

"Wilfully dense" is the best way to word it honestly. Thank you, I'll be using that from now on lol

[leaden thistle]

i assume those ppl i have said, in my theory some of them, are likely part of toxic bunnies (ik some of u guys dont like those ppl), who turn everything against bts, lssrm and illit b4 the latest incident cuz as a very supportive bunnies to newjeans, actually maybe some of them stand with hybe already, and some of them just..not a fan of as bunnies or anything, is just my theories and determinations, we wouldnt know who is hatin who, which fans are hating on which group or company, or the news for now, some grammer errors ig but i hope is understandable, just make sure that no one are starting a war

[night niche]

it’s strange because with any local, at least in my city if i explain or ask about the NJZ situation they’re up in arms about it and are supporting them, kpop fans really do be creating their own ecochambers

[dusk pine]

anyone knows if MHJ second case looked biased towards Hybe like NJZ's too? Cuz i'm wondering why the judges suddenly sided with Hybe on the second case and why Hybe would choose the same Court where NJZ already have a ground for their case, since since the MHJ ones was on it too; also that weird ash verdict completely biased towards Hybe rejecting everything njz presented even the 14 days notification

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/breadjeanz_/status/1904522096467955886

[narrow seal]

250325 lyv🍀🏎️🏁 (@​breadjeanz_) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/breadjeanz_/status/1904522096467955886
i love this fandom💕

k-bnz are trending #엔제이지_밥먹어 in protest against hybe/ador's failed hashtag attempt. its basically saying NJZ_eat your meal/time to eat

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/luenacore/status/1904526077210595789

[narrow seal]

250325 luna ୨ৎ (@​luenacore) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/luenacore/status/1904526077210595789
•In three weeks, TheQoo has posted 300 Square articles about Kim Soo-hyun and Kim Sae-ron.

• In three days, TheQoo has sent 118 articles to Hot Posts just for criticizing NewJeans.

Is this not concerning or suspicious? A group of 5 young girls are being criticized and more

[copper current]

I argued on Korean news video with some Korean incel. One man say NJZ are criminals??? What kinds of mindset is this? They mislabel people so freely

[hot girder]

https://vxtwitter.com/llikrufles/status/1904283715481800883?t=RDoR16K7G1KtlHNfEIqFaA&s=19

[surreal raft]

bye I said something about how hybe leaked pre debut vids and they said when that’s how u know they don’t know anything now they’re bringing up taky

[night niche]

mental illness 💔

[copper current]

You can’t argue with dumb evil people. They know they are wrong but they are haters so you are talking to potatoes and stones

[night niche]

arguing with hybe stans is like arguing with trump supporters, you can’t argue with people who don’t wanna change their viewpoints

[short laurel]

i open the twt they qrted and saw the replies. even intl people defending this ksh

[sleek crest]

"im a law student" all over again

[short laurel]

they go so far to harass girls with p* jeans while they defending actual p* here. 🤦

[leaden thistle]

srsly, i have words, but ig just, stop, he will just continue it nonstop

[surreal raft]

They trying set me
Up with min hee Jin hello

[night niche]

stop talking in the channel 💔

as a matter of fact maybe leave all together that’s ridiculous

[surreal raft]

okay I have left

They started calling me slurs

[red thorn]

Abandon the ship
They don't even want to talk civil about the subject of the early topic

[surreal raft]

omg that was crazy as a person who had NO PROOF

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1904523378305692125

[narrow seal]

250325 Cake🍀 (@​CakeDegg) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1904523378305692125
ADOR STAY AWAY FROM NJZ
#FreeNJZNow
#WeSupportNJZ

[surreal raft]

FREE NJZ!!

[sleek crest]

yea they wont read allat

sorry

[leaden thistle]

its okk hahaha

[stiff prairie]

how we doing gang

[orchid field]

Is this real or edited…

[night niche]

im chilling wbu

[craggy skiff]

Read hybe/hater media play is annoying and funny at the same time.
Yesterday they analysis how hyein look sad and she may don't want to leave ador but other member force her to do it.
Today they yapping about hearin will be the one back to ador just because she not have breakfast with team.
Wonder what theory they will drop tomorrow

[stiff prairie]

the way k bunnies move i'd believe is someone said this is real

[orchid field]

Mega balls, actual vandalism is braver than me

[stiff prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-happy-sad-im-fine-i-am-fine-boy-crying-gif-22504050

[orchid field]

Should have struck out the music and say mediaplay instead on their company slogan

[stiff prairie]

i can get behind that

[orchid field]

Its alright man trying to persuade antis is like trying to filter out piss from water like thegreatgaram said, best we can do is correct misinformation and save up money for comebacks

[stiff prairie]

i'm going thru sad hopeful phases. thinking of distractions etc. started watching an anime today

[ashen charm]

Ador is messaging tokkis to spread the newjeans talk to ador to get trending do they think we're stupid

[surreal raft]

abt to kms

[kindred estuary]

and ktokkis trended a different hashtag

https://fixupx.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1904524659082867088

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM)

#엔제이지_밥먹어 Means #/NJZ_Get_Your_Meal.
︀︀In Korea, saying "Get your meals" is treated the same as saying "take care of yourself."

Quoting . (@NJZBUBBLEGUM)
︀
#엔제이지_밥먹어 is trending now!

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FixupX · Mar 25, 2025, 1:23 PM

[red thorn]

It seems they don't care about tokkis reaction/respond
Their target is appeal to public for their "sincerity"

[ashen charm]

Dispatch is legit finding anything possible to ruin the girls image and make them turn on eachother it's disgusting..

Ador and dispatch pmo is so annoying

[surreal raft]

lowkey someone needs to burn down hybe and dispatch they are starting to ge scary

-https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1904371791201526014

NJZ Enthusiast (@haerinthequeenn) on X

when you look at the full dispatch article you can see they were there with only bad intentions also seeing Dispatch was this close to Olivia and their parents after what they did to NJZ is making me furious

X · Mar 25, 2025, 3:16 AM

[frozen granite]

Ok chat we’re getting cooked

[surreal raft]

WDYM

[frozen granite]

On tiktok 😭 almost every page & content creator who is known to be unbiased are having a bad feeling towards njz

[surreal raft]

omg

[frozen granite]

We srs need a miracle idk something

[stable escarp]

8 more days and we'll see the sunlight finally

[short laurel]

we had all the "unbiased" youtuber stopped supporting newjeans last year cuz of allegations on MHJ. these are same people.

[midnight yarrow]

Stop worrying about TikTok content creators. They're honestly irrelevant in the big picture and even the small one. Let the toxic echo chambers yap pointlessly. They'll never force their terminally online narratives to turn into reality. NJZ is still loved and supported. I can't see any other girl group in history withstanding the awful media play the girls have endured for a year nearly

[frozen granite]

That’s true, but I’m also keeping up with their ig followers & they are losing like crazy. I know it’s just numbers, but they literally lost thousands yesterday … I’m just sad about what’s going on

[short laurel]

njz_official on ig has 5.3m. nothing to worry

[midnight yarrow]

You're too deep in the weeds if you're tracking IG followers. Those rise and fall all the time and you would need way, way more data than a couple days to properly identify a trend. But why bother?

You know what isn't dropping? Their songs on the charts. Their Spotify streams. Their relevance in the Korean public. Their album sales

Find me another girl group that could be sabotaged as badly as NJZ and still be top 2-3 in every relevant metric with no new music released in almost a year.

[frozen granite]

they are close to 5.2 now but hoping it doesn’t reach there idk we just need a miracle next week I’m hopeful team bunnies is cooking something good but idk rn is not looking good

[frozen granite]

Ok that made me feel better I needed that … thank you

[surreal raft]

people may not like njz but they can never forget the impact the njz has done they will always be that group

[glossy siren]

quick therapy session for this channel https://x.com/DannyyauWai/status/1904519462763573554

Danny Yau (@DannyyauWai) on X

Every @newjeans_official / @njz_official songs in 2 mins

It’s so sad to hear them announcing the news, thank you for all the amazing songs

X · Mar 25, 2025, 1:03 PM

[midnight yarrow]

I've been keeping tabs on NJ stats and song metrics since debut. So you can trust me on that one. When the public really drops you, you plummet out of the charts. Look at what happened to LSF with Easy after their reputation fell post Coachella. Not to pick on them but it's an easy example. Or Cupid once Korea started to hate OG 50/50.

Meanwhile Hype Boy and Ditto are still charting and sometimes even rise.

We're fine.

If you did a Gallup Survey in Korea today, I'd bet anything NJZ would still be the top group by a wide margin just like they were in 2024. Despite all the nasty work from HYBE and their deranged followers, the public still loves NJZ

[frozen granite]

Someone should suggest team bunnies to open up a tiktok btw just to debunk misinformation there since we don’t have a strong candidate atm

[surreal raft]

omg ur so right.

[midnight yarrow]

It does suck that one of the more vocal Bunnies on that platform was so irresponsible and honestly dumb given the platform she built for herself. Let that be a good lesson to anyone else who wants to make themselves a voice for our fandom

[frozen granite]

I only know someone who is very vocal & good, but only has somewhat descent amount of followers however their content is only in Spanish

We need an English speaking tokki from team bunnies or someone who is actually good & is responsible

[midnight yarrow]

But that's all my yapping for now. I've lurked this server for years at this point. I'm a very vocal Bunny elsewhere. Don't let the negativity from those obsessed fandoms and antis crush your optimism. The girls NEED us to stay strong with them and for them.

I've been in K-Pop spaces for a long time now. I'm blown away by how Bunnies rallied to support and fight for NJZ. It's way too early to be all doomer and give up now. This is just the beginning.

And I look forward to their rebirth era

[frozen granite]

For how long have you been a kpop Stan?

[midnight yarrow]

Yes

I've been into K-Pop since 2nd gen--SNSD, 2NE1, Wonder Girls, Big Bang, Sistar, etc. I've seen it all

[hoary frost]

something happened today?

[frozen granite]

Oh wow that’s awesome

[frozen granite]

Just ugly misinformation spreading that’s it tbh

[copper jetty]

Not much... just Ador and Hybe being their usual selves. 💀

[hollow sorrel]

the miracle being new music (with music video out on streaming platforms)

these haters are performative and the moment NJZ drops again, the positive will outshine the negative. Obviously this is a dark time and they are literally on hiatus, so there is much more negative coming in, but let's not forget that once they start posting, promoting again most "haters" will forget...

[frozen granite]

Since we can’t get njz lives atm what if livvy gets on live & njz just “happens” to be there

[midnight yarrow]

NJZ will probably be gone for less time than the average BP waiting period between each comeback. Look at it that way instead

[frozen granite]

Yeah I’ve been thinking this too …

Ok I think I’m done doomposting lol tysm u rabbits

[copper jetty]

Good thing western artists comebacks aren't the same as kpop otherwise I'd be cooked as well

[copper jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-dance-cute-fluffy-gif-15415017485564982843

Welcome

[midnight yarrow]

Tag me if you ever need to be talked off the edge of despair. I'm an ancient relic compared to most K-Pop fans so I've seen and been through everything under the sun.

[hot girder]

well international fans are known to b like that

fork found in kitchen type of thing

[frozen granite]

The girls are suing online hate commenters right? They need to get sniper & aespajeans or whatever they are called

[empty halo]

THEY NEED TO GET SEOULITE TV BEFORE ANYONE ELSE

[glossy siren]

that list alone ❤️ aaah 2nd gen ggs...

[hoary frost]

Is there any chance we can have Dani and Hyein's birthday lives?

[potent lichen]

Maybe

[vocal sable]

OMG PLEASE I HATE HIM SO MUCH SERIOUSLY

[empty halo]

someone needs to shut him up asap

[blazing sky]

ive never seen a seoulite tv video before and his most recent one popped in my recommended... safe to say i reported it because holy shit the namecalling and bullying in one video over young girls actually made me so uncomfortable

not even from a kpop standpoint from a human standpoint like how can you say such nasty things to young girls

[quartz creek]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-new-jeans-asap-fairy-elf-gif-5125604330986523001

[old cypress]

Thank you. So it's really just what dispatch and others released, we never had the full ppt document. No wonder the thing about HYBE CEO went overlooked until now

[clear saffron]

Everywhere I go (which is mostly just yt) I keep seeing people bashing Njz did something happen recently?

[short laurel]

both korean and intl defending him :smh

[empty halo]

absolutely and hes a grown adult man.... hes made 1000+ videos about njz like ?????

[vocal sable]

its actually so creepy

[empty halo]

right, does he also not feel pathetic as a content creator to churn that garb out like EVERYDAY

[vocal sable]

korea is just full of incels, no wonder all these grown men in korea are dgaf about the girls

[empty halo]

real unfortunately

[rain spade]

errr, njz hiiatuss for now 🙂
injuncttion favors ador, so technically contract is valid, butt njz files objection. njz still stands firm on what they believe in

[clear saffron]

Okk I knew about that ig the media is just being the media then

[vocal sable]

its actually making me so angry, i watched seoulite tv recent video briefly to see what type of lies he is feeding them. he talks about how the girls were lipsyncing and uses a video of hyein, he is like 40 she is 16? its actually crazy

[blazing sky]

the amount of videos he has talking about and investigating into them should be enough to put him on a list tbh

[empty halo]

i know right its infuriating and his comments r full of incels like himself, i mean the top comment on his most recent vid was praising BANG PD 😭 🙏

r u fr.....

[surreal raft]

https://x.com/ocqanii/status/1904560973467332990?s=46 hehe I just made a thread of NJZ and hybe groups since a lot of hybe groups fans are hating on the girls

2luv (@ocqanii) on X

since they want to leave NJZ out like if they never existed under hybe here’s a thread of interactions with NJZ and hybe groups 🧵

X · Mar 25, 2025, 3:48 PM

[vocal sable]

I SAW THIS. the anger i feel bro

[empty halo]

like u js wanna praise some idol okay understandable why r u praising some CEO...? this would rlly not happen a few years ago, stan culture has rotted peoples brains. If Chuu was kicked out of loona in 2025 and said she wasnt paid enough kpop fans would tell you "shes so spoilt and greedy doesnt she have ENOUGH money 🙄 "

[upbeat stream]

I've blocked him ages ago, it's good for your peace of mind. I don't wanna see his disgusting face when I search Newjeans or NJZ on youtube

[glossy siren]

people create a parallel between being a fan of mhj and being a fan of BSH like...on one side you have a real creator, known since a decade ago for her art on the other...............................................................................help me with the dots.

[empty halo]

totally doing that rn

AFTER reporting his channel, he got banned off of twitter and he spreads a lot of misinformation, getting his channel down would be a win

[empty halo]

if u ignore all the bad things and look at it from the POV of a hybe stan what has he even done apart from... um... run a company :0

be a ceo who sits in a chair and does some meetings occasionally 🫨

[glossy siren]

to be honest, he's a producer but we'll never know the level of his artistry

with mhj, gosh, we have a sea of stuff. still remember her work with f(x) pop up, genius

Idk, it feels so distasteful to me to put them even in the same sentence

[empty halo]

never seen a hybe stan ever praise him for that like ever 💀

[glossy siren]

as a creator I've been following mhj journey way before njz debut, her work is even used in university lessons about graphic design

[empty halo]

ohh damnn

looking through his credits on music on wikipedia rn and im seeing a handful of songs ive ever actually heard and i can assure u he most probably did NOT do the heavy lifting in the writing or production in the ones i recognise

[glossy siren]

it's sad that kpop stans cannot understand that it's totally normal for creators behind idols to have fans. they think we are all brainshed by min heejin...no kid, we have developed a mind that can feel admiration outside from the photocards reign

end of my yapping session

[empty halo]

understandable, obviously ppl r gonna admire art

BSH is not well known or recognised for art of any sort, hes js known as being the goofy looking CEO of HYBE corp, AND he has fans which is perplexing

my brain is breaking and i do not wish to keep up with kpop fans and k-media anymore 🙏 im supporting njz thru this and then im clocked OUT.

[red thorn]

Elite kpopers find it hard to believe for them that most NewJeans fans came because of their music
And I think most of those elites don't like "easy listening" kpop

[wary hearth]

a majority of the time
its ignorance based on baseless allegations and misinformation

[empty halo]

do they not like easy listening kpop or do they not like the success of easy listening kpop

[red thorn]

Hah probably the latter too

[empty halo]

[elfin solstice]

where does all the hate come from lol someone fill me in

[short laurel]

majority of kpop fans are not in it for music.

[empty halo]

not at all, kpop is an industry that depends heavily on visual art, choregraphy, parasocial relationships and the charisma of the artists. Music is a side quest for the kpop fandom, that u can use to get points in arguments by bringing up chart and award achievements

[short laurel]

exactly

[glossy siren]

my gosh the whole obsession with records, charts, sales...

like, would you like a group less if it was unknown?

[short laurel]

my all time complain with kpop. why is it sales less than 1million = flop for fandoms. many groups are just happy with 100k sales

[empty halo]

hilarious bc when u sit down and actually think about the kpop groups currently active thatll be influential 20 years from now the list is small, for a group from the big 4 charting is the easy part but influence is the hard part

[glossy siren]

irl there is the opposite perception, the more unknown artists you listen to the cooler you look 😅

[empty halo]

but they care less about that obvi

[glossy siren]

and all the discussion about generations? are they pokemon? the division is so ridiculous cause on the charts those groups are competing all at the same time

[short laurel]

easy to get numbers with payola. ||there are groups with million sales but are not much known(includes hybe group)||

[glossy siren]

the generation obsession is only to give more prizes and records, if a group is 5th on a chart people will not say they are 5th, but they'll say that they are the 1st 5th gen group on the chart

[empty halo]

rightttttt nugu groups get NOTHGINGJGGNG AND IT PISSES ME OFF BC THEYRE THE ONES ACTUALLY RUNNING THE INDUSTRY AND IT IS THE CREATIVE THINGS THEY DO THAT THE BIG 4 FUCKING RECYCLE

[glossy siren]

imagine the same logic in the western market, it would be a circus

[short laurel]

generation from what i understood is different era. as in change in style. they define it with bg. even though nj should be credited for bringing change in style they still 4th gen. something like this

[old cypress]

if anything creativity wise the big 4 or rather SM entertainment is ahead

because SM and hybe can pay top creatives

[empty halo]

idk why theres a concept of generations in kpop anymore, am i the only one who feels like gen 4, gen 5 and apparently the "gen 6" thats starting up now mush pretty well for each other

[short laurel]

yea it is mushed. the gen 5 just started actually

[old cypress]

we're still in gen 4 people are just being dumb with these

[glossy siren]

Generations division started just as a cultural thing to debate about changes but kpop stans flattened the discourse and use it know as a way to divide achievements

[empty halo]

aespa 🛐

[copper jetty]

True. I would say it's better for a group to have that distinct sound identity than just chase whichever trends atm.

[empty halo]

STOP IKR 😭

[short laurel]

chinese fandom from what i know divide generation by 5 years(no reason just 5 years afaik). so that brings more confusion as they are huge kpop fandom there.

[old cypress]

Generations are basically about dominance, what groups dominate and lead the industry. Gen 3 was twice and bp, now it's aespa and newjeans

[short laurel]

so many bg's in kpop sounds same to me

[glossy siren]

I always cringe when I see a 5th gen group on the charts and people going like " they are the 1st 5th gen group..." no karen you faves is in a group of artists, the place is 7th. there is no different competition

[old cypress]

there is no gen 5 yet but both kpop fans and companies want to make their groups look like the "next big thing" so they call them gen 5 gen 6 gen 10000

[copper jetty]

And change of music identity because of growth is NOT the same with just chasing the trends of music. However Kpop people seems to confuse those 2.

[empty halo]

well in the end of the day, decades from now, njz will be remembered a genre (kpop) defining group alongside all the other greats if we're just looking at the trajectory of their career so far, and this hate train too (like the numerous other hate trains in kpop ranging from jennie to wonyoung to ive as a whole and then lsrfm) will end and theyll not just be okay but will be one of the greats in this industry

[glossy siren]

I just can't with bgs...

[empty halo]

not just for their music but their style, art, design, choreography -- everything

holy shit even aespa had a hate train bc people disliked their performances, theyre doing SO GOOD now that most people dont even remmeber it

[short laurel]

this. current chart numbers doesn't matters, true value is onyl shown when they are remembered years later.

[empty halo]

its crazy, people will forget about this one day even tho it seems like such a big deal rn

[glossy siren]

I will never believe to any sales data from hybe's groups...

[short laurel]

they will only remember it when another gg in the future fight for their freedom. like we remember jyj case now

[glossy siren]

after those 100000 album return...