NJZ Updates and Discussion

[frozen granite]

What if this is part of Njz evidence? “Let see if ador is just keeping appearances or taking the initiative” which clearly indicates the former

[waxen musk]

It's definitely not as obvious what's going on as some people like to assume it is.

Or maybe that's ADOR's intention, to confuse everyone.

Bunnies were saying here's proof that it was done under NJZ, then minutes later ADOR posts it and now haters can say the opposite.

[frozen granite]

Wait

Why does ador’s story look like that??

[waxen musk]

It's nothing significant. It's just a different style of repost.

[frozen granite]

Oh ok I was reaching then

[cinder narwhal]

actually when I clicked on the notif then closed the story I was wondering why the posts look different

I was at nj page and not njz

[frozen granite]

It’s ok free promo 🤭

[steel depot]

i thought it was a new contract

which one was tagged by coke is it njz or newjeans?

[frozen granite]

They didn’t tag either

[waxen musk]

And Minji just posted some behind the scenes herself.

Suggesting ADOR wasn't there to film Light Jeans content.

Whatever's going on, ADOR's doing a good job of making us doubt what's going on.

[wind monolith]

minji was like fk ador u dont got these behind the scenes

[frozen granite]

Oh minji dont end fraudor like that …
actually hit them with the chair !!

[cinder narwhal]

tbh this shouldn't really even matter
just enjoy the content and the music

[waxen musk]

It's just a curiosity. It doesn't matter and I doubt it will change anything legally.

We don't even know if ADOR knew about this ad in the first place, but them posting it to their Story is making appear as if they did. I see what they're up to.

[red thorn]

I'm more inclined to assumption that this is delayed campaign or something

[waxen musk]

Many possibilities.

[frozen granite]

I’m excited for the judge to side with NJZ

[cerulean lake]

i mean it’s just a coke ad and it was literally dropped out of nowhere. i don’t even think it’s an official song 🧐

also is the main news on korean entertainment industry abt kim soo hyun’s allegations rn? haven’t been on twt so im not sure

[cinder narwhal]

random posts about the girls usually make noise

[hoary frost]

He created a new account

[cerulean lake]

welp the injunction and whatever else occurring is probably overshadowing it then

[cinder narwhal]

yeah it's what you mentioned

[red thorn]

It's all about KSH now, even on theqoo <- very much expcted

[cinder narwhal]

exactly where I checked lol

[short laurel]

They have to since their claim is girls still under contract. They'll keep doing it untill court sides with girls. Then girls can dmca ador for using their content without permission. That would be funny to c tbh.

[frozen granite]

How is everyone doing/feeling??

[rain spade]

👌

[half knot]

Ador will keep pretending that NJZ contract is valid until the main case is settled, just wondering when they'll run out of content to post lol

which also means ador will have to continue to provide financial settlements to NJZ as well, very weird situation to put themselves in

[copper current]

excited 🔥 several more days to March 23

[stiff prairie]

D-10 lessgoo

his twt was never the problem. it's his yt that should be taken down first

[heady gate]

Take him down would fix the problem. 😅

[cerulean lake]

His twt was a problem during the beginning of the drama last year. I remembered he was the one who fueled the plagiarism rumors between NJZ and Jeans (the Mexican group). But yeah, his yt is a bigger problem now.

[stiff prairie]

delete everything about that guy

[ashen charm]

Yt will be next when he gets sued

[stiff prairie]

[jolly junco]

delete his soul as well please

[stiff prairie]

yessirr

[waxen musk]

Dunno if you're seeing what I'm posting in main chat but could count as potantial leaks? I remember we used to have a leaks channel. Where did that go?

[stiff prairie]

oh yeah there was a thread for leaks. i don't see it anymore

[cerulean lake]

him and that lee jinho guy. two of the most jobless incels out there

[stiff prairie]

well being incels is their job so...

[short laurel]

YouTube pays. It is actually their job sadly

[cinder narwhal]

threads hide if left inactive for too long

[stiff prairie]

ahh yes. it's there when i click on the icon.

[cinder narwhal]

I love tenasia bruh peak entertainment

[kindred estuary]

this? https://discord.com/channels/948917131989381173/1106751912075858041

[waxen musk]

Thanks

[stiff prairie]

Dispatch new leaks with luggages and maybe mhj at the side?

[kindred estuary]

the article title got edited shortly after an hour though

[cinder narwhal]

they're just yapping atp need to meet quota to get that hybe money

[short laurel]

Do these media think girls were homeless after they left odor?

[stiff prairie]

even without hybe's money under the table, these lots don't get clicks if their articles don't have njz name on it

[lucid yarrow]

lol just coke set and they think its thier home what dumb media play but ok not going do anything

[heady gate]

It is a tabloid clickbait.

[red thorn]

Fan fic

[craggy skiff]

I were joking about they move to a new dorm. feel like we share the same idea

[stiff prairie]

this pic reminds me of hanni's paper lantern scream

[red thorn]

Hanni the tallest member is canon

[short laurel]

yea. i read someone talking in mainchat that ador should be almost done with behind the scenes video. i wonder if anyone keeping track

[stiff prairie]

sb said dani's one was released in nov?

[cinder narwhal]

esquire pics were released 1021 so maybe shoot was a month before

[upbeat stream]

https://news.koreanbar.or.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=32946

Legal community divided, I'm praying even though I don't really believe in god

[cinder narwhal]

good read

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/juantokki/status/1899963292023742745

[narrow seal]

250312 1tokki (@​juantokki) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1899963292023742745
Hybecel all-star team is down.

aespannjeans - ☠️
sniper21 - ☠️
Sean Lim - ☠️🆕
Lee Jin-ho - 🔜

Next: Jail time 🚔

[cerulean lake]

need to take care of that new sniper acc before it grows

[hollow sorrel]

Source Music against MHJ delayed till 05.30

https://m.entertain.naver.com/now/article/241/0003419735

[upbeat stream]

lol

And reddit thinks the main lawsuit against njz will resolve quickly. It's a civil lawsuit so I don't see it being resolved before end of the year at the earliest

[hoary frost]

Source is frightened

[short laurel]

lsfm cb. fearnots were crying when hanni mentioning them last week. if this case happened tomorrow as schedule. there would've been alot more drama. so that's avoided for now, peace for both sides.

[hoary frost]

There will never be peace.

[jolly junco]

I hateeee instagram 😭😭😭 give me back phoning

[wind monolith]

I was gonna go messege that fking loser but he has dms disabled

[hoary frost]

Why did u ghost me u said u loved me those lovely promises were fake or wat oonanaoonanaoonanaoo

[stiff prairie]

it's just our life now init

[glossy siren]

I've just read the news of soumu court date dalay and I'm so irritated, they just want to harass mhj, like Ador is doing to NJZ, making her lose as much time as possible. I get that LSF comeback is now but a delay of 2 1/2 months on a case Soumu themselves started? SURREAL

at least whatever the results of their team comeback will be, there won't be an excuse to use Min Heejin in the narrative...Only bright side I can see

[lament delta]

bruh finally seoulite old man's x is suspended

but his yt acc is still up and very much alive
guys i reported many of the channels slandering njz's name on yt to team bunnies, will they get banned? i sent pics, user handles and posts

[upbeat stream]

If they're Korean, then yes definitely possible

[lament delta]

sadly no

[upbeat stream]

I've never seen any example of a label or artist suing foreigners so idk

[lament delta]

i meant team bunnies

[upbeat stream]

Yeah I get that but they are korean too. Suing overseas is too difficult

[lament delta]

but isnt it bc of team bunnies that aespann oldies got suspended?

[upbeat stream]

Both aespannjeans and sniper are korean

[waxen musk]

I've updated the legal schedule: #1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

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from ashbash159

• March 14 - Deadline for submission of evidence after March 7 injunction hearing.
  - March 14 – MHJ’s second hearing against Source Music. DELAYED
• March 17 - MHJ vs Employee B
• April 3 – ADOR vs. MHDHH: Exclusive contract validation trial.
• April 17 – MHJ’s second hearing for the shareholders’ agreement
• May 2 - MHJ's third hearing against Bethief.
• May 30 – MHJ’s second hearing against Source Music.
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[heady gate]

Is there a limit to the amount of hearing per case?

[split bramble]

tbf most of their opinion is based on whats been put on the media, which is very one sided for hybe, so its normal to think like that

[sage venture]

if you actually read it, two lawyers say NJZ has the upper hand, while one lawyer states 'If the urgency and significant damages from signing the advertising contract are sufficiently demonstrated, the injunction may be granted' Even that lawyer added 'However, a decision considering fairness for both sides could limit the scope of NJZ's activities' So, the title 'Legal community divided' feels quite strange

Also I checked and those three lawyers are real entertainment lawyers Especially the two lawyers who said NJZ has the advantage are the ones with actual winning cases in exclusive contract disputes As for the other lawyer, I’m not sure about his track record

[hollow sorrel]

can you send me/explain where you check these things? I wanna look around

[sage venture]

you can google it (in Korean) 1 - '송혜미 오페스' 2 - '강진석 이엔티' 3 - '정덕연 은하수 합동법률사무소'

the first two are veterans and the third one seems to be a model/lawyer

[split bramble]

this is encouraging

[frozen granite]

Have a good feeling about the results ! NJZ never die !!!!

[hollow sorrel]

me too!! no way an injunction that completely bans them from entertainment activities goes through…

[short laurel]

I c sooo many anti's bringing up girls living good under ador as argument to defend hybe But i c no Tokkies calling out that the treatment was cuz of mhj n not hybe. Instead Tokkies bring up points about workplace which are valid points too but mhj's contribution to girls getting good dorms n vacations are nvr mentioned. Even tally not mentioning them...

[hollow sorrel]

literally, it's insane how a lot of people were hating on mhj when she was going through it, but months later they wanna take credit for everything she's done and say it's thanks to hybe/fraudor

like the dorms, getting paid early into their careers, involvement in creative direction, etc.

[short laurel]

N Tokkies not pointing it out

[hollow sorrel]

yeah I mean there's no point they just really really hate mhj no matter what happens.
let's be honest here mhj's reputation amongst these people (mostly hybe stans) is ruined beyond saving, no matter what proofs she will provide they will always find a way to villanize her

there's still hope for her reputation to be improved though once she releases that documentary she's allegedly making about the whole case

[ashen charm]

The rat dogs are back

[cerulean lake]

Yes it’s confusing when people try to bring up that point of them having it good when they were with Ador because that stuff literally happened when MHJ was still in charge. The trust broke once MHJ was just removed and nothing was done to fix whatever they required.

I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to understand that they had a problem with Ador once the new management took over 😐

[hollow sorrel]

realistically NJZ should win their case based on the sole fact that MHJ is no longer their CEO, they've emphasized multiple times that they were successful because of management and creativity were combined

• mhj was just such an important factor in creating their identity that removing her does irreversible damage to the group

as Sejong emphasized people have won injunctions/terminated their contract successfuly based on replacement of CEO or manager solely, but in this case NJZ has much more reasons for it

[cerulean lake]

on man now i can confirm this 😭😭 just logged onto twt again after like 3-4 days

[waxen musk]

Now that it's Friday, maybe we'll learn more, maybe even a result, who knows.
But I'm just realising now, whatever result we get, such a huge wave of emotions will come with it.

[wind monolith]

i just know if it doesnt go our way im deactivating twitter and reddit and not hopping on here😐

[fleet nebula]

soldiers don't quit at the first hurdle

[wind monolith]

i would need time off i cant let a lose effect me mentally esp during exam ssn

[frozen granite]

NJZ will win!

[marsh sorrel]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[vale dagger]

Hello, i want ask are the trial result already out or not?

[frozen granite]

If we don’t hear anything by today it’s more likely that we’ll hear something on Monday right?

[waxen musk]

Don’t expect anything today. But I guess there’s a chance something happens.

Any day next week is so much more likely.

I see the new Essential ad teased using copyright ADOR & HYBE. I expected ADOR to exploit the NewJeans brand as long as they can, but now I’m realising brands that do this are going to get no support from Tokkis.

I wonder if brands who do this will benefit at all from the partnership with ADOR.

[frozen granite]

I hope we get some results, but if they don’t that’s fine too, I still have a good feeling for this ruling for some reason

[fleet nebula]

the casual fans who aren't that invested in the fued will see NJ and buy tings anyway but nowhere near what it would be had it been NJZ-endorsed

[grizzled summit]

any news

[wind monolith]

nope

[jolly junco]

i swear i will quit kpop for good if they lose, but they gonna win this so i'm not worried

[frozen granite]

I keep constantly checking this chat for updates just in case 💀

[stone grotto]

When’s the next hearing for Ador vs NJZ?

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/tokkiloops/status/1900408256922837449?s=46

. (@TokkiLoops) on X

Coke Brand Advertising Manager

"Uh... You did reach an amicable agreement, right? 🫠"

#NJZ #엔제이지

X · Mar 14, 2025, 4:46 AM

[stiff prairie]

no update from today yet?

[wind monolith]

Nothing yet

[stiff prairie]

who's gonna tell him?

[hushed whale]

its 2pm now if nothing in the next 3 hours then next week ig

[frozen granite]

I said this in the other chat, but this is making it seem that Coke was told that ADOR gave NJZ permission to work with Coke

[stiff prairie]

i mean we should at least get the date of the results today

[stiff prairie]

well what's the alternative then. we took your money, but u can't work w the girls anymore cause they're not here

but it is a matter of concern like what if ador says we won't give the members any money from sponsorships cause they terminated contracts etc just to create a hassle for them

[frozen granite]

Yeah idk I just fear antis might take this & paint NJZ as liars. As if the girls told coke to keep working with them with the false narrative that ador gave them permission :/

[storm warren]

imo this coke cf was done solely with njz. njz only reposts and acknowledges cfs and magazines that are done solely with njz without ador

ador reposted on ig like they posted Omega and Vogue photoshoot even though both were done without them being aware/involved

ador is keeping up with the pretense of "contract is still valid"

they are ultimately the ones confusing advertisers

well at least i hope thats the case

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/kkokkoheehee/status/1900339897581658373

[harsh dove]

@kkokkoheehee <t:1741911312:d>

뒤진호 뒤지기전 발악중

https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/registered/2D5E1FDB9A810FB0E064B49691C6967B

[stiff prairie]

what was this petition for again?

[twin cypress]

Did ador post and delete to coke ad on their story?

[cosmic belfry]

It appears so

[frozen granite]

What is the petition for ?

[wind monolith]

Pre sure it is for cyber wreckers on youtube who create defamatory media

[cosmic belfry]

Actually how long was it even up? NJZ doesn't have it up now.

[frozen granite]

It expired

[twin cypress]

I remember seeing both pages post it but did the manager call out ador and then they deleted it? I think it was a day ago they posted it

[frozen granite]

They didn’t delete the story, it just expired it’s been a day

[cosmic belfry]

yea i thought both posted last night but i misremembered

[heady gate]

I am not fully understand "amicable agreement". But I will wait and see.

[cerulean lake]

yeah i’m confused too. are them blaming njz or ador?

[stiff prairie]

amicable agreement is smth like we let u use the ip u give us a portion of earnings
but i don't see it happenning

[cerulean lake]

ugh just wish this was all over

[frozen granite]

This was what I was trying to say too!

The sentence makes it seem that either they were unaware (which is illogical) or coke was lied to about the working with NJZ .. idk

[cerulean lake]

ador lied to coke or the other way around?

[stiff prairie]

to me it's more like they worked w the girls first hand and had no contact w ador but they got confused after seeing ador posted it too and that's y they're asking that question?

btw it's past 2.30 how's there no noise about court stuff yet

[frozen granite]

Ahhh this is killing me

I want to go to sleep & wake up to the news that NJZ won, BSH is going to prison, & we are all getting concert tickets

[storm warren]

https://x.com/cakedegg/status/1900427106749923605

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

Global Head of Music & Culture Marketing at The Coca-Cola Company and President at Billboard 😌

X · Mar 14, 2025, 6:01 AM

couldnt be more obvious what happened

[stiff prairie]

I'm still conflicted on coke thingy. They're on a way to recover from pr disaster. We're big in latino kpop community and they hate coke these days after the deportation issues

[frozen granite]

You’re Latino bread?

[stiff prairie]

No but saw them bcotting coke on tiktok... Like serious bcot

[frozen granite]

Yeah I don’t think we’re hearing any updates about the injunction

[stiff prairie]

We'll get the results date at least by 5 kst I think

[tiny peak]

omg it's today? seems too calm in here

[short laurel]

They have to pay girls as long as girls faces are in them. Regardless of if they are with them or not.

[short laurel]

To stop media like dispatch tenasia n idiot youtuber from spreading lies that have led to celebrities unaliving. In the last unalive case dispatch had posted a lot of lies against the lady but now dispatch switching it's tune when she unlived.

[sage venture]

this is the cyber wrecker who started Hanni's visa issue by obtaining private information directly from FRAUDOR He even bragged once about having connections with BIGHIT's VP

[stiff prairie]

yeah but imagine they don't just to spite them off and so that they need to file a lawsuit to get the money

[short laurel]

Girls will win in the case. Infact if ador say they won't pay girls, it'll only support girls in current battle

[copper current]

Girls getting all the money from suing all the haters

[upbeat stream]

I read somewhere that ador is still paying them monthly after November

[cerulean lake]

I’m glad there is some traction against lee jinho rn tho. That guy has gone too long doing whatever he does without any repercussions. Idk if he’ll ever get charged or have his channel shut down but at least some portion of the general public hates him now. It’s just sad a tragedy had to happen for there to be any type of anger fueled towards these cyber wreckers in general

[short laurel]

Worse part is it'll calm down n he'll be back to making these videos. It has happened multiple times with multiple youtubers...

[sage venture]

that cyber wrecker made four videos about Kim Sae-ron (the actress who passed away) and her family said he was responsible for her death and they'll sue him
You know what? last I checked, he’s made over 60 videos about NJZ He'll pay for it

[cerulean lake]

The fact that he has high ranking entertainment officials back him up is actually so terrible too. What a messed up industry.

[half knot]

they better be, NJ earned a lot

[cerulean lake]

He needs to get the sojang treatment and go to jail

[half knot]

and there are still outstanding contracts they must be paid for, as well as clauses in standard contracts where idols get paid for some stuff 2 years after the termination of contracts.

[cinder narwhal]

if they didn't they'd be handing the girls an easy win

[half knot]

yeah the moment they give njz a financial excuse, it's only going to make the girls' case stronger

HYBE PR might be dumb as rocks, but their accounting department must be pretty well managed to be able to run a midcap company with that much revenue while still having basically no profits

[upbeat stream]

Tbh the reason they don't have profits is because they keep making shitty investments, their revenue is solid

[frozen granite]

Given the fact that this injunction was proposed back in January & it barely set motion, is it safe to assume that maybe the judge doesn’t see this as an emergency which indicates that NJZ might win? I think taly said that in a video

[half knot]

it's being funneled to their tech, gaming and US/foreign ventures almost exclusively.

[upbeat stream]

It's from a lawtimes article, yeah

[hollow sorrel]

But given the purpose of the injunction we should be getting a results before ComplexCon right?

[frozen granite]

Yeah, but either way they’ll perform

[cerulean lake]

yeah aren’t they trying to be a tech company at this point?

[sage venture]

this ironically shows how absurd this injunction is One of the main elements of an injunction is 'urgency' but in this case, the contract is already terminated, and the artists have no intention of returning You can’t enforce them to work for you, so aside from potentially reclaiming money paid, there’s no 'urgency' to the situation

[cinder narwhal]

wow good point

[short laurel]

It's for us fans. We want to court just side with njz n end this all quickly. 😭

[stiff prairie]

no update by 5 kst

what's going on over there

[sage venture]

Korea is currently preoccupied with KSH controversy and the impeachment issue

[tawdry vessel]

it's prob going to be monday

[frozen granite]

Who is KSH? Tbh I’ve never heard of him until now

[tawdry vessel]

the actor dude i think

[frozen granite]

I have no idea who he is, but yeah most likely we’ll hear on Monday … I think this delay is an indication Njz will win

[midnight zodiac]

i didn't really think they would make a decision on the same day evidence is due. still gotta give the judge time to review it

[tawdry vessel]

i'll believe it when i see it

[frozen granite]

Think positive !!!

NJZ won & we are cheering & celebrating ! 🥳

[cerulean lake]

really really famous actor who is the most paid actor rn in korea. idk if you know but he had a really successful kdrama w kim jiwon last year (queen of tears). that’s probably why sk is so occupied with this drama bc he’s like an A-list celebrity

[jolly junco]

number 1 paid actor in south korea

at least because of him our girls wont get the negative media attention as the usually had

[sage venture]

there are three judges so even if they all agree, it will usually take one week to write the judgment document If there’s disagreement among them, it could take more than two weeks

[cosmic belfry]

oh he's that big

[frozen granite]

Three judges are in charge of the injunction decision ?

Are they … nice? Did they side with MHJ last year ?

[upbeat stream]

I think district court rulings only have one judge usually

An appeal to high court will have 3 judges

[cinder narwhal]

mhj both had one judge. actually the same one for both lol

[craggy skiff]

It good to have some peace these day. media take their focus on KSH drama instead of keep talking about court case

[short laurel]

same one for njz too

[sage venture]

nope '단독판사' means there'll be 1 judge and '합의부' means 3 judges This case it's '민사 합의50부'

[midnight zodiac]

why does this case have more judges?

[sage venture]

that's just usual thing

[frozen granite]

Who are the judges ?

[mild mist]

Are you sure that it's not just tax avoidance

[sage venture]

It's the same judges

[frozen granite]

Same as the MHJ’s case? There were three ?

[upbeat stream]

I remember there being only one. Do you have a source?

[sage venture]

I couldn't find the case directly but it's in this blog https://blog.naver.com/trric/223676511836 You can see the last part has three judges name BTW This is nothing special

[sage venture]

three judges are 김상훈, 조정용, 장천수 and main judge are still the same

[midnight zodiac]

This whole time I thought there was only one judge for mhj case

[upbeat stream]

I guess the presiding judge's name is always mentioned, so I must have thought he is the only one

Kim Sang-hoon

[sage venture]

this is just normal thing '단독판사' usually handle very small cases Other than that it's 3 judges

[frozen granite]

Thanks for the information

Anyway, Gn njzcord. I’m sleepy, will be praying Njz wins

[stiff prairie]

Wth? Not even giving us results date is crazy

[cinder narwhal]

chill

[hollow sorrel]

3 minutes…

[hushed whale]

[cinder narwhal]

not decision just speculation
http://m.tvdaily.co.kr/article.php?aid=17419285961744779010#_PA

idk if it's just rehashing the article from earlier though

[red thorn]

HA tv daily article

[cinder narwhal]

that's why it leaned towards granting the injunction

[shy schooner]

Results today?

[cosmic belfry]

Looking like Monday next week at this point

[shy schooner]

They should be off to hk next week

[tawdry vessel]

im curious if we get to see jeon wick

at the airport

[grizzled summit]

Any news

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[grizzled summit]

Why?

[hoary frost]

why what

[grizzled summit]

Why has there been no ruling yet

[hoary frost]

Is it raining where you live right now?

[grizzled summit]

Yes

[hoary frost]

Why?

[grizzled summit]

I don't understand

[hoary frost]

just playing around, there's no way to know why.

[grizzled summit]

Kk but when's the injunction hearing then

[storm warren]

today was the last day of evidence submission. ruling will come out in few days or week

[hoary frost]

We truly have no idea if it'll come in 5 minutes, 5 days or 5 weeks, but it'll come.

[grizzled summit]

Ok

[storm warren]

main trial starts next month, it will come before then

[hoary frost]

We also don't know if that'll be delayed. These suits are tricky to gauge.

[ashen charm]

Hope they bring extra security to hk for hanni

[storm warren]

it wont be delayed. the point of injunction was urgency

[short laurel]

main suit can be delayed.

[bronze talon]

Whenever the results are in I can already just feel it we won this like no way it's not won

I don't wanna be the cope master 4000 and overoptimistic but dude come on like ain't no way

[grizzled summit]

Fr

[waxen musk]

I was hoping today we would learn which day to expect a result. Now every day next week is going to be a lot harder to get through.

[tawdry vessel]

it's even much harder to be excited for the comeback cause of this injunction and all the waiting for the result

im pretty sure the girls feel the same too

hope they're all doing fine

[waxen musk]

I was silent about this, but after the injunction and Hanni's angry messages on the day, there were days of silence from her. Seeing her go live with Minji helped me worry a bit less. I hope they're all fine, too.

I'd just like a date to "look forward" to. As unlikely as it is, there's even a chance a result could happen after the 23rd.

[hollow sorrel]

if the girls were truly scared or anything they wouldn’t even be having a comeback right now. they know they will win. they will win

[jolly junco]

“We believe we will win this battle against Hybe and Ador.”

Danielle Marsh

Reminder for everyone who’s worried 🫡

[short laurel]

even if they lose. girl still performing. nothing stopping them since it' outside korea.

[hollow sorrel]

https://biz.chosun.com/industry/business-venture/2025/03/14/LWSE5GBTZ5HPLGB4RB4EDDFK4I/?utm_source=naver&utm_medium=original&utm_campaign=biz

nothing new, but it speculates that the results come on the 21st

"The injunction decision, unlike a ruling, does not have a separate sentencing date. However, considering that an injunction is intended to determine a temporary (provisional) status until the final ruling, the industry expects a decision to be made around the 21st, a week after the conclusion of the hearing, or at the latest, by the end of this month."

[frozen granite]

“By the end of this month” kek so ador’s efforts to stop njz’s performance were completely futile

[wind monolith]

This is just speculation who knows

[sly python]

hold the line

[cinder narwhal]

there was someone wondering what the petition about lee jinho was about
https://x.com/juantokki/status/1900579470056235222

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

Petition to "Regulate YouTubers Who Stalk Celebrities” Surpasses 50,000 Signatures Following Kim Sae-ron’s Death
https://t.co/NRV2n1pCQs
Reporter Kim Min-je

Following the passing of actress Kim Sae-ron, a National Assembly petition calling for stricter regulations on YouTubers

X · Mar 14, 2025, 4:07 PM

[hot girder]

https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1900427106749923605?t=8__XbiJDkz6jmpValBHC2w&s=19

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

Global Head of Music & Culture Marketing at The Coca-Cola Company and President at Billboard 😌

X · Mar 14, 2025, 6:01 AM

[cerulean lake]

petition for him to go to jail

[frozen granite]

I dislike how quiet this is, but I also like it bc there’s no drama or mediaplay going on, just hope it stays like this for next week since the girls are making a comeback

[half knot]

I don't expect any court results until at least Tuesday.

probably will come out 5pm on Friday though

[opaque torrent]

gotta give the judge, his junior judges and aids time to write the summary and opinion. theyre like 15 pages

[frozen granite]

If we multiple people report a TikTok can they bring it down? Someone is spreading misinformation & it’s getting lots of views

This is what they posted

[red thorn]

Antis defending ador was something I didn't think of in the past
More reminder, it's not the place
It's the people

[frozen granite]

Ex-tokkis are the worst tbh … that’s why I better not see any ex-tokki jump back on the fandom when Njz makes their comeback

[short laurel]

they were never tokkis. just fake accounts run by anti's. it's for their new narrative "tokkies are waking up"

[cerulean lake]

those ppl are insufferable. no saving them

[heady gate]

We can't fix ignorant people.

[tawdry vessel]

ignorant and stupid

[cinder narwhal]

https://fixupx.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1900788809505132916

I was under the impression they separated amicably

what more hostile separation like njz

[short laurel]

didn't new law allows idols to take the brand name with them after contract termination?

reading it it seems girls are ready to buy ip with money but hybe set some absured unknown conditions ?

[red thorn]

Yeah must be unreasonable condition/compensation

[red thorn]

When is this?
What I've known that for solo artist the rights should transfer to them after
For group it's according to agreement with the agency

[short laurel]

we were talking about this here some time ago. it is with agreement with agency but the groups have more power than it used to be. it was made last year iirc.

[copper jetty]

It's sad to see Fromis_9 going through this, especially i think they don't have that strong of a fanbase as us, f hybe

[short laurel]

their fanbase is not as big but it is pretty big and dedicated fanbase.

cuz of how big kpop has become since covid. people starting to call the relatively smaller groups as if they are negligible. but we have to remember they are still pretty big and shouldn't be ignored. (now that i think about it hybe is the one who treat relatively small groups as negligible even when they hitting 100k sales 🤔 )

[copper jetty]

Tbh i got into kpop last 2023 just because of newjeans so I have no idea on how usually the sales are for kpop. I just compare them to njz previous sales

https://x.com/njz_pham/status/1900883154606694506?t=7HhpgvDkkcendntNWCAopQ&s=33

ditto akgae (@njz_pham) on X

HYBE changed the name when you search "NewJeans" and included their TAG-PR agenda-driven Reddit shithole landing page, effectively admitting they run that ground and delete anything positive news or post related to NJZ just as how they do it in a corrupt manner with Korean media

X · Mar 15, 2025, 12:13 PM

Does anyone know why are those reddit link under their group name when searched???

[hot girder]

can we report that?

[copper jetty]

Idk how to

Even with njz that's the first thing you see

[silk skiff]

Usually due to interactions and activity, those posts receive a lot of interactions so they naturally pop up at the top few hits

[copper jetty]

Wth

So basically there's too much traffic in that site that it pops up as the first to see

[silk skiff]

That’s just my assumption, I hope google isn’t just allowing TAGPR to edit the first few links to their own liking

[cerulean lake]

reddit always shows up when i search things up on google

even if it’s stuff unrelated to njz. i could be asking questions abt chem and it would link certain reddit discussions

[gentle badger]

Reddit doesn't show up for me

[storm warren]

for me either

click Send Feedback

when u click it, it gives u option to report any information including the name and reddit post

fill the feedback and it will be reviewed

[short laurel]

i put it under hateful since the misinformation there is generating hate against the group using misleading n unverified content.

i didn't c option for misleading content. but people have that as option.

[leaden thistle]

May someone summarize something new today? Or any updates

[copper jetty]

No updates but no news is good news so

[leaden thistle]

Errrr go on hahaha, good news?

[copper jetty]

What? I meant that there being no news is good.

[leaden thistle]

Ooooo ok, sorry having a lil bit of understanding issue, mbmb

[fast snow]

Honestly with the timezone difference I usually wake up in the middle of the day in Korea so I'm always glad when I'm met with silence cause it means nothing bad happened

[mild mist]

☝️ Google always highly weights Reddit in its results.
It's part of why gemini is so bad

[short laurel]

It's discussion on reddit, someone pointed out when it's time to praise groups success everyone credits hybe but when it's to criticise groups issues, everyone puts it on sublabel. The comment was downvoted.

His point was called "insane" by someone

[cinder narwhal]

even hybe does that

[short laurel]

Oo no. Hybe takes credit for success of all of kpop.

[copper current]

This is SEO, any SEO experts here?

[copper jetty]

What's seo?

[copper current]

SEO, or Search Engine Optimization, is the process of improving a website's visibility in search engine results pages (SERPs) to attract organic, unpaid traffic. It involves optimizing content, structure, and other factors to help search engines understand and rank a website effectively.

[short laurel]

seo specialist is a high paying job btw

[copper current]

Team Bunnies can pay SEO experts to divert this

remove negative, improve positive

[short laurel]

google handles that. not us.

[copper current]

I mean any rich bunnies or bunnies with expertise, I don't know much about marketing

~t https://x.com/njz_pham/status/1900895417446846921

[narrow seal]

250315 ditto akgae (@​njz_pham) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/njz_pham/status/1900895417446846921
They also changed NJZ to “NewJeans”

Everyone search NJZ > click 3 dots next to it > Send Feedback > Inaccurate Content > Misleading > add description

Thanks yo

[short laurel]

just hope google take our feedback

[copper current]

Hybe definitely followed big bunny's account who let everyone know about the NJZ search a few days ago, and they took action to change the search, this is through marketing.

[stiff prairie]

there are freelancers that get paid to do this sort of search engine optimization(SEO) stuff. usually company hires ppl to do this so their company or products name shows up top on search engines. if there are rich bunnies out there they can definitely do this thing

[short laurel]

i've never seen google showing NJZ there. so idk what u mean

[cosmic belfry]

Reddit just gets a bit of a boost for being a forum and what people typical want in search results. There also aren't bigger threads in regards to them right now.

[short laurel]

atleast kpop fandom site says NJZ formerly newjeans

[tired cairn]

seo is usually done on a site-level. there's little control over it if you can only post comments. It used to be based on inter-site linking, metadata and other things, but it's become even more of a black box now that it's all neural nets. It'll be especially difficult to get rid of reddit claiming high positions in the rankings because they get a lot of traffic naturally

i admit cjb is right that sending feedback does improve search results as well, but it's unfortunately not as simple to check it worked now that all search is personalised as well

[copper jetty]

Previously when someone searched newjeans it shows the group NJZ... also their previous songs like ditto and the get up album showed NJZ as artist. I searched and it's actually true then. It went to NJZ as group. Hybe probably paid to get it back to newjeans

[short laurel]

Oo

[copper jetty]

That means that hybe is definitely monitoring bunnies fan accounts cause some of them showed this.

And if they're doing that I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the newjeans reddit thread and here on the biggest newjeans discord.

[short laurel]

we know that already. reddit it's pretty clear and here we c them often but we bully them back

[tired cairn]

I would've been really surprised if they didn't monitor the largest international fanbases

especially discord will be a better way to guage the opinion of non-casual fans

they're just in a weird position now where they're not welcome at all. Reading negativity about you is terrible, so if they're like i'd be they probably avoid spending too much time here now

so if we make this place hostile enough to hybe then they might stop monitoring as thoroughly because they won't have the energy

[mild mist]

if anyone working for hybe is reading this - hello

[copper jetty]

Also if anyone working for hybe is reading this... f*** hybe.

"This comment reflects public sentiment for analytical purposes and is not a personal opinion"

[short laurel]

If girls or their og team are here - fighting! we support you!

[waxen musk]

I think we should look at how a week can make a difference. One week ago people were more worried than I've ever seen them. Now, people are a lot more confident. A week ago the media play and amount of hate online was more than I've ever seen and I was worried for the girls. Now, it's died down so much and is manageable.
I think knowing how things went down over the past week, that if something like this happens again, that people should know things get better with time. And not even that much time. A week isn't long.

[frozen granite]

NJZ will have an amazing comeback. NJZ will win.

[orchid field]

Additional message for the hybe employee: just quit your job lil bro

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/8_nwsb89990/status/1900949577265795409

[narrow seal]

250315 MinTokki민토끼 (@​8_nwsb89990) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/8_nwsb89990/status/1900949577265795409
https://www.kipris.or.kr/khome/search/searchResult.do#none

[short laurel]

Indie jeans

[upbeat stream]

Pham Ngoc Han? That makes me think this is fake. She uses her English name everywhere, I think that's what's written in her Australian passport. And anyway, they would probably announce agency first and then apply via the agency

[storm warren]

it is applied via Sejong lawyer

also was applied on Feb 6th, a day prior announcement

[cinder narwhal]

are the tweets deleted?

[storm warren]

it seems so. however, kipris link is there and it shows up

[hollow sorrel]

https://x.com/oidpistoia/status/1900968915959763052?s=46&t=rG1o-Bkd-GgDMGG_CtSg2Q

harley (@oIdpistoIa) on X

https://t.co/4UNNpDNwQq got updated this night. announcement tmrw? 👀

X · Mar 15, 2025, 5:54 PM

it seems they also updated njz.kr today which is allegedly their new website

[stable escarp]

Thats her government legal name right?

[upbeat stream]

Is it? I think Hanni Pham is her legal name in Australia and Pham Ngoc Han in Vietnam. Could be wrong though

[twin cypress]

dani going off on the idol industry on live right now

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/_hyeinn/status/1901001324067422510

ashley (@_hyeinn) on X

This is what danielle has mentioned so far on her insta live.

X · Mar 15, 2025, 8:03 PM

can't wait to see how the rats will defend this

[cerulean lake]

they will say it is normal

[short laurel]

It's crazy that we know this is all true even without dani telling us, yet no one talks about this enough. Thank you dani for speaking up.

This thread is a must read. It shows that somu didn't change at all even after they were heavily criticized for gfriend training period.

[short laurel]

There's been literally unalive from overworking under that company n they went "overworked to unalive is common in korea" on reddit. They said same when hybe idols had to get iv's after being overworked.

[cerulean lake]

yea these ppl truly don’t care, they just see it as normal because they’re so desensitized to it

[runic tinsel]

who has??? like from what group? cause thats so sad

[short laurel]

Svt members have been seen getting iv's multiple times. N ppl always defend it as "it's normal in korea". They were almost always on tour.

[tawdry vessel]

someone called njz bullies and liars in njz chat and still not banned

[frozen granite]

Probably it was an anti

[runic tinsel]

insane

[short laurel]

Unfortunate thing is, it is normal in korea...

Many ex-idols, Male n female have shared how they were almost always tired during their career as idols.

[high totem]

? who

[red thorn]

I think it's expected in showbiz in general

[short laurel]

Yes ik but that doesn't make it right.

[frozen granite]

I remember this server was more moderated, but idk what happened everything is all over the place

[short laurel]

Old mods kicked cuz of stuff.. (not cuz of kpop, they still support njz, just they were not good people)

[red thorn]

Mhm the environment made the artists rely on it

[frozen granite]

I’m surprised I’ve never seen any hateful comments on NJZ (which I’m glad) I wonder if they delete them as soon as they see one though bc they are literally nonexistent

[high totem]

im pretty sure they were laughing at an anti comment they found on tt not hating on the girls

and in the future if you see someone you think we should ban just report them
we arent online 24/7

[tawdry vessel]

the way the person said it.. it sounded like it was his/her tt account.. lets wait for the response

[tawdry vessel]

thank youuu

all good now

[tired cairn]

Other summary of the live dani did than the image linked above #newjeans-chat message

oh are bots aren't monitoring here? or do i just not know how the embed is supposed to work. ah well, just click it then

[lean garden]

Having to write down whenever you go to the bathroom is disgusting. That's so messed up

And sounds illegal

[short laurel]

Industry creates puppets, not artists. Only in their later years idols gets to show of their own creativity in limited degree n only after they leave they get full freedom to be artists.

[waxen musk]

Just watched Dani's live, and wow, so much to say.
I'll just start off by yet again wondering how the hell people can think MHJ is the manipulator and brainwashing the girls when the girls have been through manipulation and brainwashing at an even younger age as trainees, and MHJ is the one to help them break free from that. It's so clear if you listen to the girls, but of course the haters won't listen. It's so frustrating. That and Jennie and Rose just straight up having full conversations and giving advice. Everyone in the real world love them. The examples keep piling up.

[lean garden]

People who don't immediately realize how Important and protective MHJ is, is beyond help imo
But the misinformation spread has been nonstop

Not even misinformation, more like literal made up stuff

[short laurel]

Kpop twter account shared dani's message. But they didn't put mhj n ppl in qrt are making it like mhj was responsible when she wasn't even involved in training them at somu.

[waxen musk]

Dani very specifically said "before we met MHJ".

[short laurel]

Yea but it's conveniently not mentioned

[waxen musk]

The scary thing is how these kids as trainees don't realise what they're going through when they're going through it. Dani said it took her time to realise and that it will take time to undo all that damage. It's scary to think that maybe certain idols are still going through that process and still don't realise what has happened to them. Scary shit.

(ofc i dont know it's happening with idols that debuted, but just the thought alone is scary)

Anyway Dani yet again expressed how excited she is for NJZ's future. There's clearly nothing to worry about.

I wish we could all learn to ignore the people who refuse to listen. It's a lost cause, trying to educate them.

The people who want to listen, will listen, and everything is SO CLEAR.

[red thorn]

The system messed up even before the talent become trainee
Scouting agent from companies scouted young talent, promised things in behalf of their company if they auditioned or sign the trainee contact with them
Sell dreams, who knows what kind manipulative game in the play to convince the parents and their child

[wind monolith]

These loser on insta create an account just to messege shit on lives i called one out bro deleted the account

Didnt even respond to me

[frozen granite]

Make this make sense

[jolly junco]

dani literally tell the stories in english

[copper jetty]

Also just realized that after debuting, those idols don't stop touring and having cbs. Aside from the profit, maybe because the company doesn't want them to internalize what happened to them during trainee, and on top of this they're being forced fed the mentality that they're lucky for being able to "debut".

I'm just wondering how this came about though... It was a weird hour when Dani called. I'm guessing maybe someone older from the kpop industry and them talked about their trainee days and compared notes.

[jolly junco]

the company dont see idol as "singer"

thats why they blocked all their creativity in terms of music

idol = puppet for making money (in the company stan POV)

thats why trainee start from very young age, because its easier to manipulate and control them

this is also why i never attracted to any kpop idol until newjeans(after fx), i only love listening to solo singer because they ARE singer, not a puppet

[copper jetty]

It checks out actually... after newjeans I tried listening to other kpop groups. Not for me. I'd rather listen to kr&b and khiphop

[jolly junco]

yes!! korean solo singer are so so so good, people who only listen to idol need to broaden their mind about this

they are truly singer, but they are not as famous as idol these days

[frozen granite]

Did popbase tweet about what Danielle said during her live? They’ve been supportive of NJZ lately

[copper jetty]

I think they did

[brazen ice]

yes they did

[fast snow]

The entire kpop industry's messed up iwl Idols arent seen as humans, as workers more as a product as a service

[copper jetty]

They're going platinum on my house though.

I love DEAN, Oohyo, Jo Yuri, All the DPR singers., Meenoi, Gemini and Colde

[frozen granite]

Can you send the link please

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/PopBase/status/1901023148470137322?t=lBV9SP62dfYj_R6m8g4HBQ&s=33

Pop Base (@PopBase) on X

Danielle of NJZ talks about strict rules she had to follow during her trainee days:

“You had to leave a message before you were able to go to the toilet, and this was even in free time. You were constantly being watched over when you were in the practice room, so you didn't have

X · Mar 15, 2025, 9:30 PM

[brazen ice]

ye they posted these two

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/PopBase/status/1901030306456502750?t=TtdLejdnNRfad8ZOyc66vA&s=33

Pop Base (@PopBase) on X

Danielle of NJZ voices concern for young trainees and artists, showing her support:

“There are trainees nowadays starting at an even younger age, and I feel like, I’m definitely not saying all the trainees would be in this kind of situation, I’m just saying that there could be

X · Mar 15, 2025, 9:58 PM

[frozen granite]

Thank you! I love how they said NJZ

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/njz_pham/status/1901070866026479689

[narrow seal]

250316 ditto akgae (@​njz_pham) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/njz_pham/status/1901070866026479689
Send feedback again because this time HYBE and their TAG PR bots replaced it with the Megathread, another —public opinion interference—- which shouldn’t be the landing page. Groups usually have “K-Pop Profiles” as their landing page here (see second pic)

Use the link below as

[red thorn]

Only shows megathread if I searched "new jeans" in my case
Cnn article if "newjeans"
Njz ig account if "njz"

[red thorn]

https://x.com/catztokki/status/1901017423454826808

반희수🫧 (@catztokki) on X

The NJZ Name Trademark has been submitted for registration under the name of the girls. 🥹

Kim Minji
Danielle Marsh
Pham Han Ngoc
Lee Hyein
Kang Haerin

#NJZ @NJZ_official

X · Mar 15, 2025, 9:07 PM

Oh already posted 🐌

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/tokkizones/status/1901080402246455631

[narrow seal]

250316 Zones (@​tokkizones) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/tokkizones/status/1901080402246455631
Tokkimap was hit with 8 DDoS attacks last night, but most of it has been mitigated.

If you’re resorting to this just to take down a fan-made site out of spite, that’s honestly just sad. Reflect on your choices.

The fandom isn’t going anywhere, and creativity will never be

[copper current]

Powerful Software engineers bunnies gather and protect Tokkimap 🙏

I mean we need cyber security engineer bunnies

[split bramble]

i can already see it, after the battle with hybe is done the girls will be spearheading idol union creation

[jolly junco]

[bronze talon]

reddit gone for me

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/tomatofrogrn/status/1900379603807719715

[harsh dove]

@tomatofrogrn <t:1741920779:d>

the audacity to use haerin's face 🙄

REPORT NOW
https://x.com/snper22?s=21

[cerulean lake]

reddit losers back at it again. obsessed 😭

[heady gate]

Myabe that Reddit user wants a transcript of it in Korean. 😅

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/njz_pham/status/1901114029873205546

[narrow seal]

250316 ditto akgae (@​njz_pham) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/njz_pham/status/1901114029873205546
Update they changed the Youtube video from NewJeans MV to their paid Youtuber video sponsored by TAG PR. Pls keep sending feedback, I will send this now to Team Bunnies too!

If you're checking this comm HYBE, read that 2nd screenshot and make sure the Ozempic pig reads that!

[red thorn]

Mine is fine, and my search result setting isn't personalized too

[cosmic belfry]

This is too conspiracy fueled. It's just algos. Hybe nor TAG have that much motion.

[cinder narwhal]

yeah that's what I keep thinking

[frozen granite]

I wonder if we’ll hear something tomorrow about the injunction results

[copper current]

I want to get over it but I am worried if Hybe drops a bomb and the judge grants the injunction because everyone expects NJZ to win and no one knows what to do if NJZ loses.

[frozen granite]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DHPfUQ1vBA5/?igsh=YWsxNjA3dnFrOG1w

complexchinese

我們已經在 Apple Music @applemusic 上，為大家準備了「ComplexCon Hong Kong 2025」歌單（bit.ly/CCHK25_AppleMusic），一起來為 3 月 21 - 23 日晚上的 Complex Live! 演唱會溫習一下！各位準備好了嗎？

We have already prepare the "ComplexCon Hong Kong 2025" Playlist (bit.ly/CCHK25_AppleMusic) on Apple Music. Let's revision together for Complex Live! concert on the evenings of March 21-23! Are you ...

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[stiff prairie]

i get a megathread with njz but a reaction vid with newjeans :/

[heady gate]

how do u get a Megathread on the top page?

[cosmic dagger]

maybe has to do with the amount of people interacting with the the link after the search results come out and google just puts that at the top?

[stiff prairie]

idk I haven't even been to that sub yet I think. And now that I take a closer look, the pic looks like dugout of a football stadium. No idea why that'd be the thumbnail for a kpop sub's post lol

[short laurel]

Ppl are saying google used to start using njz there but it suddenly changed back to newjeans along with reddit thread.

[stiff prairie]

i'm not sure about overview section but you can definitely influence search results of google. i think overview section can be manipulated asw

[short laurel]

What we need is action against these sub reddits

[cerulean lake]

is tag pr considered under hybe now if they bought most of its shares?

[stiff prairie]

under hybe america yeah

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/990kimminji/status/1901137547423805562

[narrow seal]

250316 990 (@​990kimminji) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/990kimminji/status/1901137547423805562
웬만하면 꾹 참고 흐린눈하려고 했는데 이번일은 도저히 참지 못하겠네요. 님들 인플루언서 아니고 아이돌이에요. 아무리 초대받아서 간 콘서트라고 해도 오랜만에 단체로 라방켠답시고 꼴랑 5분밖에 안하고 콘서트 보러가고 애프터파티가서 신나게 놀고 오고 새벽에 라방에서 자랑하는게 말이나

[jade jolt]

Tbh im utterlly dissapointed a fansite said this

It takes a lot of courage to talk about what Dani talked

[heady gate]

More artists would come forward in the future

[jade jolt]

Im really glad Dani chose to speak up about what it takes to be a trainee i wish People will start to appreciate them more for this

[heady gate]

This is one of the reason why Hybe wants to terminate NJZ operation

[jade jolt]

Yeah unfortunately

[stiff prairie]

can u tl cause i broke my brain reading the google tl

[short laurel]

Ofc it's knetz. I kinda expected this tbh.

[heady gate]

The comments of this twitter are all negative.

[short laurel]

Knetz almost always against idols when idols finally open up about these things. It's 1 among many reasons why idols stay quiet

[cerulean lake]

bashing op?

[stiff prairie]

yeah. i though negative towards dani but no.

[cinder narwhal]

does your Google translate it differently cake?

[jade jolt]

What surprised me was that a minji fansite wrote this

[wind monolith]

Stupid ass person how r u even a tokki saying this

[stiff prairie]

i didn't go to the tweet itself. tled in google tl that's why. in twitter it reads understandably

[heady gate]

That post is pointless. Someone is jealous that NJZ went to Jennie's concert and had fun at the after party.

[wind monolith]

This is giving bp vibes their fandom has internal fights i never expected us to be here

[frozen granite]

This whole drama just really showed who the true tokkis aren’t & who are. It’s sad, but good that we are getting rid of stupid people

[jade jolt]

Agreed

[tawdry vessel]

me as a fan, i just want them to be happy and do what they love to do while being successful doing it

[cerulean lake]

how did they even brag abt it 😭😭 she literally just said she enjoyed it

[tawdry vessel]

simple as that

[frozen granite]

Rant**

I’m stuck reading ex-tokkis ill comments towards NJZ & I honestly can’t believe the lies HYBE stans warped their mind. I came across this post of this person who went to lolla to see NJZ & this might come off as weird, but it made me feel a bit sad since I, too, went to lolla to see NJZ & it was literally the most amazing day of my life to this day. The excitement & energy I felt seeing the girls perform was like nothing I can compare it to, however it’s sad that these people who also shared the same sentiment as I did that day quickly let HYBE stand influenced their mind … it’s just sad to see

[copper jetty]

it's ok. it's honestly sad to see but it's a much needed fandom cleanse. This will separate all those people who have supported the girls through thick and thin and those who didn't. After this I better not see them come back and if I do, I'll call them out and not have them back honestly.

[steep torrent]

there was also a hr fansite too. I wonder why this jennie party was their breaking point

[short laurel]

https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1898275893459685507?t=J_vBZvQ5KomWgxpmO8dcZQ&s=19

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

안녕하세요, 팀 버니즈 입니다.

최근 NJZ 멤버들에 대한 악성 게시물이 매우 심각한 상황이라고 판단되어, 접수된 신고 내용을 바탕으로 1~2주 내에 3개의 로펌에서 추가 고발장을 접수할 예정입니다. 또한 금일 중 법무법인을 추가 선임하여 특정 플랫폼을 전담으로 모니터링할 계획입니다.

빠르고

X · Mar 8, 2025, 7:33 AM

Was this posted here be4? It's from 8th march

[kindred estuary]

https://x.com/nownewow/status/1901159188815815044

302 (@nownewow) on X

내 트윗에 njz라는 단어가 어디있는데 시발아
njz는 공연 방해 안했어 시간 맞춰 들어왔고 나갈때도 노래랑 노래 사이에 조용히 나갔고 자기들 쳐다보면 두손 모아서 무대 가리키면서 공연 보라고까지 해줬어 뉴진스는 걍 인기가 많아서 주목을 많이 받은거고 공연 중간에 나를 열받게한건 남자들이다

X · Mar 16, 2025, 6:30 AM

[orchid field]

Talk your shit queen 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[stiff prairie]

this new sniper is getting way more attention than it should. we basically hated it so much so that haters took it as a challenge to make this account bigger

[waxen musk]

I go on Twitter and see so much fighting and complaining and miserable shit I really don't understand what's going on. Probably time to get off Twitter again. It was fun for 2 seconds.

Anyway 7 days left, I'm actually so excited.

[craggy skiff]

Suddenly a lot of complaints post from some tokkie about the girl should do this, the girl should do that.
Is this a new TAG tactic?

[stiff prairie]

which part of twt are you guys on. i only see positive stuff besides occasional negatives. is it the comments?

[craggy skiff]

X starting to give me some "ktokkie" post. And some of them are mess

[copper jetty]

Honestly idk, it was a korean minji fan site. Bro was yapping so much about nothing.. he could find another group to stan or follow honestly.

[copper jetty]

I think it was in the tl because he was getting clocked by both korean and international tokki

[waxen musk]

It's just my whole timeline is either about that person or Sniper.

[craggy skiff]

I saw another account too.
Anyway, they both stup*d

[copper jetty]

I haven't seen sniper yet but the korean one was enough for me to get off x again

[hoary frost]

I'm a shooter so my whole feed is tokki drama. I don't mind. Because i know NJZ are in the right.

There is something about Twitter, though, that turns everyone into the meanest version of themselves.

[waxen musk]

When it's my whole timeline for one person like that, it pisses me off so much. I could so very easily have never known about this person, but instead, everyone has to say something about it. At least they're telling people to unfollow, but I wasn't following them in the first place.

[copper jetty]

I tried especially the hate train last year. Since it died down I'm off again. I'm mainly there for the voting gc

[hoary frost]

I don't begrudge anyone for getting off the train. It's a lot.

[copper jetty]

I can't honestly take the things I see there.

[hoary frost]

Absolutely understood. It's a cesspool of lies.

[waxen musk]

Literally all anyone has to do is listen and trust the girls. So much extra noise that people listen to it clouds their judgement.

[copper jetty]

Also some of them were yapping about them not being on live that much, there's not much activity...

Like are we stanning the same group and they just forgot that legal stuff is happening in the background causing the girls to potentially halt their activities?

[ashen charm]

hyein wont go live because they will twist her words

[copper jetty]

This too. I saw them complaining that 2 of the members weren't on live that much. Like yeah, hybe watches their moves even to the point that they're being stalked by dispatch... and are afraid of the media play that 1 of them are basically scared to go on lives... are we as fans forgetting that???

[waxen musk]

You don't need to explain this to the people in here. The people you're speaking to aren't here.

[copper jetty]

Just rant mode.

[waxen musk]

I don't expect a new Phoning any time soon, it sounds expensive to make, but it's desperately needed.

[copper jetty]

I miss phoning though. I can't believe I'm saying this with all the bugs and all but I miss it.

Also i keep on forgetting cause of the time zone but there's no news atm with the injunction yet right?

[ashen charm]

phoning had better quality

[hoary frost]

no news

[copper jetty]

The translations tho sometimes were wack... but now that I think about it, it's the same with IG I guess...

[ashen charm]

ig is just terrible for lives especially the copyright thing

[stiff prairie]

only good thing about ig live is it's easier to watch on desktop

[hot girder]

Can you recommend some korean artists pls?

[jolly junco]

me personally i love heize, bibi, jamie, taeyeon, oohyo and lee hi

[tawdry vessel]

joy from redvelvet, she prob has the best voice in the industry

in my honest opinion

[hot girder]

I don't really care about voices but music lol, but thanks for the recommendations

[red thorn]

Double ege sword, easy access and basically everyone has IG, the comment section is free real estate any kind people can comment

[hot girder]

Kwon Eunbi has some good music as well

[short laurel]

but no joy solo yet. T_T

[stiff prairie]

yeah i was just ig live has 1 single positive to it. rest are for phoning.

[tawdry vessel]

Hello?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJU-wryhpo&ab_channel=MARIA마리아

[short laurel]

that's a remake album. not her proper solo

need a solo where she has her own songs.

[tawdry vessel]

truee but still

[tawdry vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/parksooyoungjoyyus-park-sooyoung-watermelon-joy-subak-crying-subak-joy-red-velvet-gif-21766167

yes 100%

[short laurel]

joy not even have many solo songs. wendy yeri and seulgi has alot now. yeri solo missing too.

[stiff prairie]

if u guys wanna get into new things i suggest qwer band. good music, smaller fandom, less toxicity, not necessarily idols(for some reason it's a positive thing for me), has a good story about how they formed etc

[short laurel]

qwer are idols. they fall under band idols. but it's same industry. they just happen to be from smaller company which is a good thing though.

[stiff prairie]

never heard of band idols but yeah pseudo idols ig. and they didn't come thru harsh trainee periods like normal idols so it's a good thing for me

[red thorn]

Miso, r&b singer and music producer
Same label with DEAN

[hot girder]

Thank you!!

[short laurel]

yea. there's alot like that. day6 are band idols. when i say band idols it's normally means they are put under same perfectism platform by fandom.

[hot girder]

I like r&b so that's a good recc right there

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vVI20mtY2m4&si=GRxnhxS6d2o7PS6Z

This song is very good btw

It's a shame these guys haven't released anything since (as a group, Colde is active as far as I know)

[stiff prairie]

i see. i'm just getting familiar with the discography and yt stuff. so not yet fully aware of the fandom. but it seems like they're not that harsh as other fans and are pretty chill

[red thorn]

Oh she featured in offonoff too

[hot girder]

Yea I saw but didn't want to ping you haha

[short laurel]

they are under jyp. day6

[stiff prairie]

yeah i researched them after seeing njz likes them a lot. i was talking about qwer.

[short laurel]

u should c idol bands in music shows. they jamming so hard but not even hitting the instruments. 😐 xD

[hot girder]

I'm happy Danielle has enough liberty now to be able to speak about her trainee days. She's just saying what we already knew, but to say it yourself to your fans... that takes courage. And she's so very strong for that

She's also warning other young people who might want to become trainees in the future

[short laurel]

more bigger people speak the better. we have alot of smaller artists speaking up but few bigger ones. thank you dani

[stiff prairie]

it's like she said. unless it's a big talking point from a lot of idols or influential ppl in the industry it will stay the same because of the potential chance of becoming an idol

even now i can say a lot of trainees thinking like she can say it because she already made it. we have no chance if we don't do exactly what these abusers want us to do

[short laurel]

between last year n early this year i think? there was a survival show for a bg. it was soo toxic and one of the judge was so bad at times. by the end boys openly said no, they not wanna debut.

it was nice to c.

[hot girder]

The trainee model works because it relies on the hopes and dreams of young, vulnerable people. Change will only happen when law starts mediating between companies and trainees

All this shit happening is only doing so because companies are pretty much able to do whatever they want, without any consequence whatsoever

[copper jetty]

Have you tried meenoi?? She's one of my faves. https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=awsXRcIEIqk&si=KM16sJv_QlNxRlnF

[hot girder]

I'll listen to her song!

a fellow youtube music user I see

[short laurel]

2 must listen are IU and ailee

[jolly junco]

IU song is good, but just not my cup of tea

[jolly junco]

Hey you should try listen to Heize - dont know you

I first know her thru this song and been her fans ever since

[short laurel]

ailee is said to be among best skill wise in korea. so must listen

[upbeat stream]

Wow so much yapping, lemme catch-up

[frozen granite]

I wonder if we’ll get some news today

[upper solstice]

i cant wait for the timer to restart!

[stable escarp]

Mediaplay monday i hope its quiet this week

[frozen granite]

Given the fact that they are performing this week I doubt it

Twitter Tokkis have to be ready

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/njz_pham/status/1901152787792359789

[narrow seal]

250316 ditto akgae (@​njz_pham) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/njz_pham/status/1901152787792359789
Help clean Hanni’s Landing Page in Google Search Engine

Google > type Hanni > find this article it’s just a few scrolls, stay and scroll there for 3-5mins

need organized clicks on this one article
as per video you can click the Daniel Ceasar cover

[wind monolith]

came across this article dont know how true it is
https://news.tf.co.kr/read/life/2187815.htm

[waxen musk]

It's "THE FACT" it must be true. (I haven't read it yet.)

[wind monolith]

it talks about how ador is pushing the narrative of tampering in court

and the court asking njz side questions about it
"The court also asked questions about the possibility that former CEO Min may have intervened in New Jeans's independent activities. When the court asked, "There is a performance scheduled for March 21, but did New Jeans find a separate agency or planning company?", New Jeans' attorney responded, "We are not in a situation where we can (sign a contract) yet."

When the court then asked who they contracted for the performance through and how, New Jeans' side said, "We know that the organizers are preparing the necessary personnel, but the members do not know everything," and "It is not that any agency is in charge of preparing the performance.""

i havent seen other articles thats y i m questioning it

[waxen musk]

Yeah I've not heard any of that before. I wonder where they got that from and why now.

If more things from the court hearing are leaking out, it's very likely just media play.

I don't think anything else in that article is new, just the two paragraphs you quoted above.

The article also provides a quote from this lawyer which I think we also saw last week: https://x.com/minos_alt/status/1901436732521971745

Mino Two (@minos_alt) on X

"The evidence/materials submitted by Ador at the moment does not clearly seem to prove of NewJeans tampering allegations" - Attorney Kim Taeyon of Taeyon Law Firm

(One of the biggest entertainment lawyers in Korea)

X · Mar 17, 2025, 12:53 AM

I just remembered the hearing for MHJ vs Employee B is also today.

[wind monolith]

ya idk i just want the results asap

[waxen musk]

I really hope people will learn how to focus on the performance and new song. I hope people don't end up making more noise over anything else going on.

[cinder narwhal]

are you saying that to yourself lol

[waxen musk]

No. Twitter. By the time next weekend comes around I’ll be avoiding everything like the plague, even here. Hopefully by Saturday the injunction result will be known and it will be a lot easier to ignore the losers.

[stiff prairie]

~t https://twitter.com/talytokki/status/1901451537932513401

[narrow seal]

250317 taly (@​talytokki) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/talytokki/status/1901451537932513401
essential are trash.

[stiff prairie]

What did essential do?

[cinder narwhal]

toxic. don't blame the 3rd party companies

[stiff prairie]

Oh they mentioned ador hybe in their ad? It's certainly a choice that other brands are not opting for

[cinder narwhal]

that's what they did in all supernatural stuff. I think it's a murakami thing

even his latest collab with MLB has it

[jolly junco]

essential should have sued ADOR/HYBE for not having their artist available as "newjeans"

but instead they chose to side with fraudor? hmm

[stiff prairie]

btw did u guys see the minji tiktok on official? it has less than 40k views which is hella sus cause the other ones have 0.5~1.5M views

[jolly junco]

which one?

[stiff prairie]

the latest one. blue minji plushie thingy

[wind monolith]

they need to get verifed def shadowbanned

[red thorn]

My only question is when is this deal occurred,
Beacuse tbf, it only used NJ visual elements/logo which owned/trademarked by ador/hybe so it's only natural they still have right to monetize/distribute

[jolly junco]

maybe because that account was getting suspended too many times

[frozen granite]

That’s what I said

[stiff prairie]

What causes this?

[wind monolith]

A shadow ban on TikTok is when your account has unknowingly become blocked or partially blocked on the app.

As a result, your content won’t show up on the For You Page and you’ll likely experience a significant drop in likes, views, and comments.

Shadow banning is an automatic process done by TikTok’s algorithm to protect users from copyright issues, spam, threats, and inappropriate content.
While TikTok has yet to issue an official statement using the term “shadow ban”, violating the app's guidelines could still land you in hot water.

According to the platform, "We remove content — whether posted publicly or privately — when we find that it violates our rules."

Here are some reasons you could be shadow banned on TikTok:

Posting Restricted Content

Bullying or Harassment

Copyright Infringement

By Accident

thats what i found on google not sure tho

[stiff prairie]

Bro did ratmys report it or what? There is no accidents

Esp how overly negative TikTok comments have been past week or so

[wind monolith]

def ratmy reporting they were reporting njz twitter before

[stiff prairie]

well at least 6k ppl went in to look for it by themselves which is nice ig

[frozen granite]

I already see fake sniper tweeting some shit like
“Seems that NJZ’s luck has ended. They are struggling to gather attention & interactions on their social media. Seems like the public has turned their back on them completely.”

[stiff prairie]

it's a shame but you can't bother with antis. they'll have smth to say even if we're doing good

[frozen granite]

Oh idc what antis say at this point they are just trying to cope & make something irrelevant into something that will benefit their narrative lol I know once Njz gets verified this will end

[stiff prairie]

just remembered that account tried to make a thing out of jennie's concert appearance using one knetz's twt. then that person came out and said don't use my twt to hate on njz so...

[jolly junco]

Njz official was reported as impersonator of another fake “njz officiall” 🤣 they got suspended 2x before

The irony…..

[stiff prairie]

bro if that account has smth to do w this i'll throw hands fr

[frozen granite]

Has someone on twitter reported Njz might be shadowbanned ?

[jolly junco]

We dont know who reported njz official, but you can guess pretty much who

[stiff prairie]

i think ratmys reported it as impersonation of the other official tiktok :/

[jolly junco]

hey isnt today MHJ vs Employee B court hearing?? any news?

[flint stone]

Is it today?

[jolly junco]

iirc....

[red thorn]

It is

[short laurel]

We'll get news when we get it. Employee b name is still private so no insider to leak but whatever results i m sure hybe side will mediaplay it hard to sound as if it's bad for mhj.

[copper jetty]

Idk if they can media play it if mhj actually wins it. We'll probably just get the silent treatment from media if it happens.

[frozen granite]

I am so lost with this case, what is it even about ?

[jolly junco]

if im not wrong....... employee B had submit a complaint to HYBE HR when she was still working under ADOR
But HYBE HR dismissed her case as nothing true because there is no evidence of her claims

but this case suddenly came up again and employee B sued MHJ because she was the CEO of ador when the case happened, how convenient

the person who dismissed employee B case at that time is currently the CEO of fraudor

[stiff prairie]

i'm an expert on this. first establish characters: ador executive A, ador employee B, MHJ, KJY(current ador ceo/hybe CHRO)

[jolly junco]

its almost weird that cake is an expert of this case

[short laurel]

Injunction 1 mhj won, media n hybe still act like she lost, same in 2nd injunction which was dismissed.

[midnight zodiac]

Win or lose. Media play will still happen

[copper jetty]

Maybe I was in my echo chamber but I remember there being posts of mhj win and those hybe fandoms being quiet about this on the 1st one. 2nd one was where I knew there're mediaplays cause they were saying hybe won when it was literally dismissed 💀

Wait this isn't the SA case right but a defamatory one? Is it this??

[short laurel]

In 1st. It was wording "betrayal" bsh even gave speech calling mhj bad

[frozen granite]

Oh ok, so why is employee B suing MHJ if HYBE was the one who dismissed the case ?

[stiff prairie]

exec A(M) asked for employee B (F) to be present in a deal meeting with 3rd party. his wording was smth along the lines of the deal will go more smoothly if there were a female present at the meeting. which is ofc a sexist thing to say but not really sexual harasment or smth like that. employee B took offense to it and reported it to HR. KJY, the CHRO and current CEO of ador dismissed the claim. employee B then asked MHJ to give exec A a warning regardless. MHJ said that she can't give warning if HR found no wrong doing. but she can ask hybe hr to investigate the incident again. after some time employee B left ador and all thise was done and dusted. However after MHJ v Hybe issue started last year, employee B once again resurfaced for some reason and is going against MHJ and not KJY(who dismissed the case) which is the weird part.

[short laurel]

Yea. N there was no SA, only SH the "having female here makes it nice" or something

[frozen granite]

Ohhhhh ok got it

[stiff prairie]

i had to read up on this if it was actually an SA or SH case or something else. and i'm pretty sure a lot of ppl to this days believes it's SA/SH case that mhj pulled under the rug

[short laurel]

N mhj did give the A a warning for this, the kkt msg shown by her supports this.

[copper jetty]

Yeah. There's a lot of misinformation on this case. Many people are thinking this is about SA when it's not.

Or i see a lot of people saying she's a sa defender. Weird.

[short laurel]

Depending on how it was, it's hard to even call it SH. Ofc it's still not nice but we don't really know the full story.

[copper jetty]

And i know employee b sued her because she went on that 50+ insta story and that's why it's a defamation case so idk why people think it's an SA case.

[stiff prairie]

sexism ≠ SH/SA. what exec A did was wrong but not smth considerable to be sued

[frozen granite]

Guys whatever happens this week, stay off Reddit or twitter! I fear it’s starting …

[red thorn]

B sue for defamation for false information

[short laurel]

This B acts like she defending women or something but she said nothing to hybe n sued 1 woman who standing strong against abuse.
Only when mhj pointed out why she not saying anything to hybe did b said "i m looking to sue hybe too" but she did nothing to hybe.

[copper jetty]

Yes but most people think it's an SA case and not a defamation one.

[copper jetty]

Unless it's newjeans reddit I'm not there anyway

[red thorn]

Yeah SA is very stretch

[short laurel]

Tbh, if mhj had ignored B's story, we'd all have assumed that account is some rando hating. Mhj responded n it exploded.

[cerulean lake]

just strange she decided to sue mhj instead of the person who originally dismissed it 😵‍💫

[short laurel]

Cuz she's on hybe payroll. Only ador employee who not like mhj

She was put in ador by hybe executive too.

[cerulean lake]

i always wondered if she was maybe pushed by some sort of backing to sue mhj so that her legal fees could add up + public backlash

if she truly felt like those actions were wrong, she would also be suing hybe

[short laurel]

Hybe said they'll reopen the case when all this went down but we have yet to hear anything from it.

[copper jetty]

Probably this. I mean from what I knew her family knew someone from Hybe and that's why she got in Ador

[red thorn]

It's not about what happened to her anymore during ador it's about mhj that spilled info/pages about her

[copper jetty]

And that's why the case was a defamation suit. If it was because of the SA/SH she would be suing hybe too who dismissed it and that's a no no apparently.

[cerulean lake]

oh yeah that’s true but what did she expect 🤨 if ur gonna make those claims abt me im gonna respond.

[cerulean lake]

nepotism 😭

[hollow sorrel]

this is the funniest case ever cause we don’t even know B’s name yet she’s suing for defamation, like what defamation???

[frozen granite]

Isn’t that the same YouTuber who defends HYBE so much? https://fxtwitter.com/pannchoa/status/1901489951650541699

[red thorn]

I remember knetz praised B's public statements like "wow her report is good not like mhj, she seems competent"
Ahem, pr rep

[copper jetty]

I don't remember the Instagram story that led to this but did 🧢 mention her name??

[copper jetty]

Yeah. I'm so happy that petition came through. W for tokkis

[short laurel]

No. No name reveal yet. Only exec A name. But we forgot what it was.

[copper jetty]

Then how is it defamation if it's anonymous then?? 💀 make it make sense like the comment from above

[short laurel]

Simple. Korea.

U can get sued for telling the truth there.
Belift banking on this against mhj in their case where they pretty much admitted that they stole nj n mhj's blueprint

Saying that this caused harm against illit, when it was hybe media who leaked the drama into public

[frozen granite]

I lost all my neurons reading this, what even is this? what makes them think those labels can sue NJZ & win even if the court decides the contract is no longer valid??

[short laurel]

Pls stop posting dumb

[cerulean lake]

i’m just gonna say it’s best to not go on reddit

[midnight zodiac]

is there any social media that’s safe to go on?

[short laurel]

Yea. Here u r on rn

[frozen granite]

Yeah you’re right I guess it’s annoying to see people comment anything just to trying to paint them as “evil people” & people blindly believing them

[cinder narwhal]

update on the mhj thing http://m.celuvmedia.com/article.php?aid=1742194947496360007

[red thorn]

Only 2 articles so far

The court set the next argument date for 3:15 p.m. on May 26

[heady gate]

Is this the MHJ vs employee B?

[red thorn]

Yes

[midnight zodiac]

Isn’t may 26 the same day the source music got moved to?

[opaque torrent]

may 30

[midnight zodiac]

ahh thanks

[heady gate]

May 2 - MHJ's third hearing against Bethief.
May 26 - MHJ vs employee B
May 30 – MHJ’s second hearing against Source Music.

MHJ would be busy

[half knot]

the intention of these frivolous litigation is to bankrupt her

[jolly junco]

yeah she's busy, preparing NJZ debut she wont attend all the court hearing

[waxen musk]

Updated: #1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1741363986:f>

from ashbash159

• March 14 - Deadline for submission of evidence after March 7 injunction hearing.
  - March 14 – MHJ’s second hearing against Source Music. DELAYED
• March 17 - MHJ vs Employee B
• April 3 – ADOR vs. MHDHH: Exclusive contract validation trial.
• April 17 – MHJ’s second hearing for the shareholders’ agreement
• May 2 - MHJ's third hearing against Bethief.
• May 26 - MHJ vs Employee B second hearing.
• May 30 – MHJ’s second hearing against Source Music.
  [Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[waxen musk]

Nothing else happened today? I won’t complain about it being quiet.

[short laurel]

https://x.com/aarrttee01/status/1901201868082266297?t=9XFhtsOclAvOmsuadIUobA&s=19

.🩵 (@aarrttee01) on X

🚨이 사태에 대한 마지막 포스트. 계속 분탕을 치는 3650명 팔로워 계정 @/990kimminji 는 NJZ( @NJZ_official )를 팔로우하지 않고, ADOR 계정 두 개만 팔로우 중. 하붕이니?

X · Mar 16, 2025, 9:20 AM

This explains alot.

[hoary frost]

What i'm curious about is when we get the big reveal that MHJ is actively working on the NJZ stuff. It's only assumed and implied at this point.

[shy schooner]

All speculation. Nobody knows for sure

[hollow sorrel]

If she will be at their ComplexCon performance just like she did for Lollapalooza it’s pretty much confirmed no?

[short laurel]

if.

[shy schooner]

More media play if that happens

[cinder narwhal]

not really

[hot girder]

I don't get why the girls haven't verified their social media yet

[stiff prairie]

agency issues probably

[copper jetty]

Opened that mhj vs Employee A link and kinda panicked. Why is translation wack.

[stiff prairie]

imagine in order to get a job in ador u need to first sue mhj as a part of recruiting process

[copper jetty]

This is also in there. So I wanted verification cause as far as I know what was filed was only a civil case but as far as the translation on this article it says that there is a civil as well as a criminal case ongoing. Can someone verify?

[waxen musk]

What happened to all the lawsuits MHJ filed herself? Most of those were criminal weren't they?

[copper jetty]

I'm not really caught up in this case since this is MHJ's own case but from what I've read before I only knew that the case A filed was civil case. Idk if mhj filed a criminal case back but here it's translated as A also filed a criminal case against her that's why I'm double checking. Just wanted to ask if anyone here knew.

Yeah I'm searching the internet and I don't see anything that says that A filed a criminal case. It says it's only a civil defamatory case so might be a translation issue. 🤷‍♀️

[storm warren]

not reported by media

they only report lawsuits filed by hybe

[waxen musk]

NJZ's side hasn't actually sent anything for the media to report when it comes to lawsuits, right? Everything you hear is either limited reporting from inside the court room or sent to the media by ADOR/HYBE. People really need to realise this. Even writing this I'm asking "right?" because it doesn't feel right.

[short laurel]

the fact that hybe side reporters than harming not just nj and mhj but also hybe idols. and hybe stans saying "mhj mediaplay against their fav"

[short laurel]

i m confused about this too. and this employee b didn't even do anything about that vp and hybe and that hr.

[copper jetty]

Thing is... I only reserve those media play thinking when it's those sites that's a known NJZ anti or hybe lacky like chosun or 10asia. That link is from an unknown one so I'm giving a benefit of the doubt.

[short laurel]

https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/registered/2D5E1FDB9A810FB0E064B49691C6967B no progress on this 😦

i fear that committee not approve of it to go for proper investigation.

[copper jetty]

Why though? They got the number of signatures needed for it.

Has this happened before?

[short laurel]

sometimes things they not like gets thrown out. look at the petition tokkies did since last year. any result? nope.

so many times similar issues has been brought up but no actual change.

[copper jetty]

That's sad tbh... I think this is definitely one change that s. Korea needs right now.

[opaque torrent]

brace yourself... today becomes the first realistic day when injunction results may be announced (tuesday, korea)

[waxen musk]

I hate waiting, so give it to me asap.

[opaque torrent]

her lawsuit against belift is merged with the one belift filed.

her lawsuit against hybe for breach of contract is merged with the contract termination validity hybe filed back in July/August. this one is closed to the public though.

defamation lawsuits against the former CEO, HYBE PR and dispatch are pending. should be getting news soon. they may be waiting on the conclusion of these current ones.

the thing i'm most curious about is the police investigation result? the last thing i heard from that is the police chief, who announced that he planned to investigate further even tho hybe couldn't produce any evidence at the injunction, got arrested for aiding president yoon's martial law order lol

[waxen musk]

Thanks

I mentioned airport in main chat earlier and I randomly imagined the injunction result coming out when they're on the plane, which would be evil.

[short laurel]

Mediaplay is definitely coming when they are on the plane

[waxen musk]

With how much they're talked about in the news in Korea, you'd think more people would realise there's a new song coming. It's hard to tell how much this news of a new song has spread when their socials are somewhat compromised.

I remember people complaining hard about how the rollout of information was done around the time of the Phoning announcement all the way up until Bunnies Camp. It didn't really matter in the end.

[half knot]

5pm on Friday so it wouldn't hurt HYBE stocks too much

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/njz_pham/status/1901753336619208767

[narrow seal]

250317 ditto akgae (@​njz_pham) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/njz_pham/status/1901753336619208767
Hello peeps thank you because the article is getting better at SEO rankings but I still need help again in cleaning Hanni’s landing page because it’s now replaced by that D1spatch allegations (second screenshot), and amongst the members, hers is the worst rn😅

Google and type in

[waxen musk]

Do we know what times of the day the previous injunction results came out? Start of day? End of day?

i could look up specific times, just asking if anyone quickly remembers

[cinder narwhal]

I love the consistency

hybe money

[waxen musk]

I love how Team Bunnies has morphed to Tim Berneze and now into Timberland.

I thought AI would solve all our problems. Accurate translations have a long way to go.

[upbeat stream]

Generative AI rarely makes these mistakes though

[red thorn]

Lol same office must be
They're in sync

[short laurel]

They are so jealous girls got support from 30k ppl. N not everyone here signed it yet since it was pinned soo late here.

[heady gate]

30k is a small number out of 600k members here

[short laurel]

Yea it was announced here very late n 30k is probably after alot of sorting too.

Since they said there's custom msg ones that ppl sent.

[tardy smelt]

60k*

[opaque torrent]

Poor trees

[kindred estuary]

https://fixupx.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1901840577702109421

[kindred estuary]

chatgpt translation

[short laurel]

They'll go to any extreme to harm njz n bnz. But the new music release should tell them how much of these are "inflated"

[stiff prairie]

Any good news?

[heady gate]

no news

[stiff prairie]

D-5 for ComplexCon it is then

[frozen granite]

Hopefully we get no news until next week so the girls don’t get preoccupied with useless stuff

[jolly junco]

D-4 until airport jeanz

[jolly junco]

i'm afraid people will be disappointed when the new music come out, just because we are having too much expectation for this new release

we need to remember they dont have agency right now, and they lack the money to make the BEST out of the best release

[stiff prairie]

Should be sooner than that. They might practice in the venue

[stiff prairie]

That's why this is our cb goals

[craggy skiff]

They got promoted by the nuguPromote for a reason

[stiff prairie]

[short laurel]

We support nugujeanz

[cinder narwhal]

https://sports.donga.com/ent/article/all/20250318/131228872/1

NewJeans Announces New Stage Name ‘NJZ’; Trademark Applications Filed the Day Before

It has been confirmed that the five members of NewJeans filed trademark applications related to their new stage name, "NJZ," the day before officially announcing it. On February 6, a day before they revealed "NJZ" on social media (on February 7), they applied for trademarks covering two types of "NJZ" logos and one symbol across ten product categories.

The applicants are all five NewJeans members, and the law firm Sejong, which currently represents them legally, handled the application process.

The trademark categories under "NJZ" include CDs, CD sales and distribution, clothing, mats, lighting equipment, leather goods, air fresheners, fruit beverages, and furniture. The mats appear to refer to "cushions," a popular K-pop fandom merchandise item, while the lighting equipment is likely related to "light sticks" for fans.

According to the Korean Intellectual Property Office’s trademark search service, all trademark applications were officially filed on February 6, one day before NewJeans declared "NJZ" as their new stage name. The law firm Sejong served as their legal representative. NewJeans members had previously appointed Sejong as their legal counsel in January.

Additionally, this weekend in Hong Kong, NewJeans members are expected to sell merchandise featuring one of the trademarked "NJZ symbols." This merchandise includes a set of six keyrings, a trendy item among young people, though pricing details have not been disclosed yet.

The so-called "NJZ goods," which were released independently by the five members without agreement from their former agency, ADOR, are tied to their upcoming performances. They are set to perform under the name "NJZ" at ComplexCon, an omnibus concert in Hong Kong on March 23.

...

[cerulean lake]

50 views 😭 nugujeans fr

[cinder narwhal]

ig what they're teasing now are the cushions

[cerulean lake]

this is probably gonna be my first time seeing how it is to support a nugu group

the past groups i stanned were pretty established already when i got interested. we starting from ground 0 (not to mention a whole conglomerate trying to come after them) 😭😭🙏

[short laurel]

The so called part is so rude.

[heady gate]

50 yt views is easy. yt counter increases after 30 sec viewing time. I usually stop the video at 35 sec.

[short laurel]

While big number looks nice, lets not do this. Properly stream the full mv n song.

[cinder narwhal]

I think it's just a joke

[short laurel]

Ppl actually bot farm like that with more modifications ofc. So much kpop numbers are inflated like that.

N media will 100% say njz bot farmed or something n cause drama, even thought all of kpop does this

[hollow sorrel]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1901809199291814246?s=46&t=rG1o-Bkd-GgDMGG_CtSg2Q

so it all comes down to tampering allegations again??? I’m so confident now, because we all know how that went last time…

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

NewJeans (NJZ) Injunction Decision Imminent… Hinges on 'Tampering Allegations'
https://t.co/Og9DD0kwRH
The Fact Reporter Sun Eun-yang

- NewJeans vs. ADOR injunction hearing concluded on the 14th
- Legal experts: "If tampering allegations are proven, it will be disadvantageous

X · Mar 18, 2025, 1:33 AM

This is extremely good for us at since it’s the same judge and last time they didn’t find any evidence of mhj’s tampering, because the chats were illegally obtained

This time ADOR’s argument is even weaker since it’s:

“They (ADOR) further alleged that metadata from NewJeans’ contract termination notice revealed the authorship as "Sejong" and "S&K," referring to Sejong Law Firm, which was representing Min at the time. ADOR argued that NewJeans had not submitted their own materials but instead relied on documents prepared by Min’s legal team.”

They’re basically saying Mhj and NJZ planned this because … they use the same legal team?

This point also stuck out to me:

** The court also questioned whether Min had played a role in NewJeans’ independent activities. When asked whether the group had engaged an agency for their upcoming March 21 performance, NewJeans’ representatives stated, "The situation does not allow for contract agreements at this point."**

Some of the comments are pointing out how even if MHJ is behind their ComplexCon performance or their comeback it wouldn’t matter.

Looking at this injunction they need to provide evidence of tampering BEFORE the girls terminated their contracts not after.

[red thorn]

Ador pinned dot as many as possible to make it seems tampering

[short laurel]

https://x.com/minjisbodyguard/status/1901813717991325952?t=MPhf5bVzavh43tPeGZb9FA&s=19

hybe flop (@minjisbodyguard) on X

@Sancochogurl @juantokki I think njz do have a strong defense because the breach of trust from ador is undeniable but I don’t like how it depends on the tampering allegations and not in if the reasons why njz terminated the contract were valid, maybe there’s something i don’t understand idk

X · Mar 18, 2025, 1:51 AM

[red thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

[short laurel]

Exactly

Why court care about her involvement after girls left but not be4 girls left ador

[cinder narwhal]

good point

[hollow sorrel]

And last, but not least:

from the PPTs we have received we know that these so called “tampering allegations” are

1. messages between the ADOR executive and MHJ that HYBE already tried to use as evidence of tampering during last year’s injunction however it was altered, so the court didn’t accept it

2. photos taken by Dispatch of Hanni meeting Mhj before her national assembly which doesn’t really have to do with anything

[short laurel]

Since njz has no agency with them yet n girls going full indie. It's possible that hanni's visa is not that E-6 work only visa but a different one. Right?

[cinder narwhal]

there was speculation about the visa type before

[hollow sorrel]

also I find it extremely ridiculous that they made a whole slide about removing the trainee videos from Dispatch just to use evidence from Dispatch 2 slides later 😭

[short laurel]

From what we discussed here, idols need agency for e-6. Since agency is not established yet but hanni got her visa l. So it should be a different visa type without the requirement of agency

[short laurel]

Yea. Mhj was out of ador at the time. So hanni did go without discussing with managers n company. Even if she did discussed with mhj. It proves nothing 🤣

[stiff prairie]

so i randomly unlocked a new fear
ador might upload njz new song on their yt 🫠

[short laurel]

ador can get sued for that if court sides with njz.

[tawdry vessel]

free advertisement? why not

[stiff prairie]

ador doesn't care about anything. "the exclusive contract is still valid" or whatever they keep saying everytime they give a statement

[stiff prairie]

cause if they do there will be more views there than njz official channel which can create another narrative. anyways it's just a hypothetical

[tawdry vessel]

yes you do have a point but it also makes them so pathetic.... as long as njz can continue to make music and perform for the fans idc what ador does anymore.. they're just annoiying noise at that point

[hollow sorrel]

250/FRNK or the producers of the song can take legal action against them if the song has already been registered by copyright authority

[short laurel]

they can't. upcoming new song is not produced by ador. and i said if judge sides with njz. at that point ador won't be able to use that line again

[stiff prairie]

yeah ik it's just a fun thought after seeing them keep pushing content out to this day

[stiff prairie]

you never know they'll say injunction went their way but not the contract validity suit

[short laurel]

them posting on ig story is free promo. them putting on youtube is them potentially earning money. ador will be in serious shit if they post the upcoming song on their website.

[stiff prairie]

ador is pathetic and don't care about their image since they have none i fear

[hollow sorrel]

yes, because that content was filmed during NewJeans’ contract, but they’ve actually been pretty great with keeping NJZ stuff away (except for the coke ad)

[short laurel]

again. they need to be involved in the new song. they can be sued hard if njz decides to. public imagine won't matter. they'll lose alot of money.

infact youtube will dmca strike hybe 1st.

[stiff prairie]

when did they post last? like what's the date

[short laurel]

and since new mv's are posted on hybe channel. and it is a publicly trading company. investors will seriously have problems then. in which case i do hope hybe is stupid enough to post njz mv on their channel.

[stiff prairie]

oh yeah that too. but yt doesn't do it themselves. the og creator files for copyright claim first

[short laurel]

and njz are og creator.

[hollow sorrel]

a few days ago I’m not sure, but we don’t know about their contract with Coke

my guess is that it was a collaboration between billboard korea and NJZ that just so happened to be a coke ad

NewJeans had a contract with Coke Studio previously so ADOR thought that ad was through them or something???

Idk I’m not sure

[short laurel]

it was only a story. since ador not getting any income from it. it's fine. free promo

[stiff prairie]

yeah i saw the story. but minji chanel photos were almost a month back iirc that's why i asked actually no it was like 2 weeks ago i saw antis started to get on minji's look and feud with a indonesian sports twt acc

[cerulean lake]

i’m sorry but going after minji’s looks is like setting urself up

[stiff prairie]

and they did. some tokkis found same accs dragging jennie with minji's pic is now dragging minji w someone from illit's pic

[short laurel]

next they'll drag illit with aespa member pic probably

these setup accounts do this soo many times and fandom fully aware of it being setup start war on twter.

[cerulean lake]

token stans from before

[sly python]

[opaque torrent]

I know NJZBubblegum was trying to capture the aesthetic of kim&chang’s PPT but i wish he would’ve used comic sans. I think that would’ve captured the feo but at least I’ll be able to read it

[frozen granite]

Praying we get news after complexcon (although I doubt it)

[opaque torrent]

should we place bets to pass time?

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1902093336363856358

XOXO GG (@thegreatgaram) on X

When will injunction results be announced? (KST)

X · Mar 18, 2025, 8:22 PM

[upbeat stream]

For mhj's 2nd injunction, it took court 5 days from the last date of evidence submission

[tawdry vessel]

today 5pm kst

[upbeat stream]

So it could be today, but most probably Friday 4 pm

[opaque torrent]

i think the same

[frozen granite]

Praying we have good news

[opaque torrent]

10/29 was a tuesday 🤔

[cosmic belfry]

After ComplexCon

[sage venture]

don't forget, both parties are usually notified of the results one day before they are made public

[storm warren]

so they were notified today if its tomorrow announcement?

[tawdry vessel]

when they are notified, are they not allowed to tell us right after?

[sage venture]

usually, that’s how it works and both parties don’t reveal the results until it goes public, but not everyone sticks to the rules so...

I’ll just keep an eye on the members’ messages

[sage venture]

technically, you can reveal it unless there are specific restrictions, but people usually wait for the public announcement to avoid defamation or spreading false information due to incorrect wording

[opaque torrent]

MHJ said she didn’t expect the results when she went onto to do that interview with the music critic the day of

Although it makes sense to be notified ahead of time bc they always have statements prepared

[cinder narwhal]

[Exclusive] ‘NewJeans Mom’ Min Hee-jin Cracks Down on Malicious Commenters… Wins Compensation
https://mbiz.heraldcorp.com/article/10444735

[red thorn]

💸

[split bramble]

hope thousands of them gotta pay up, then legal fees are taken care of hehe

[copper jetty]

Oh... there were statements from X before that she were suing for the comments. So it was true... good for her for winning it though.

[fleet nebula]

That's excellent news

[frozen granite]

What’s this

[cinder narwhal]

idk read it

[frozen granite]

Dumb

[jolly junco]

If every hateful commenter against her got sued she will be rich 😭

[frozen granite]

She’s coming for Reddit omg

[copper jetty]

Well it's in the article but not all malicious comments got fined

[jolly junco]

This is gold mine for MHJ and NJZ

[jolly junco]

Yeah i guess she only chose a few commenters that got her attention

[copper jetty]

Especially since most of them pull things out from their ass or through incels.

[jolly junco]

But thats okay, maybe she only wants to prove that she can do this to anyone how write nonsense against her

[copper jetty]

I just hope we could get the injunction result already. The closer complexcon gets the more I want the injuction out of the way.... not just for us fans but for the girls too... i can't imagine them practicing and also worrying about the results.

[craggy skiff]

Mhj got enough money to make another ador just by winning against malicious commenter in court

[tawdry vessel]

dani posted a story, time to analyse

she's wearing abeanie hat and hiding her eyes

with a stay strong emoji

idk it kinda doesn't look good

[copper jetty]

Idk... i don't think its that...

Like yesterday, the same way they posted hanni lying down for practice, I think they're just saying to stay strong while doing hard practice

I think they're fired up to perform but practice is kicking their butt 🤷‍♀️

[jolly junco]

Burning heart emoticon = angry? 🤣

[tawdry vessel]

not angry but more like we lost but keep fighting and stay strong

[jolly junco]

If the result came out today they might have notified this morning

[jolly junco]

Ok this is good, low expectation so when they actually won we will CHEEEERRRRS

[tawdry vessel]

[wind monolith]

I took it the other way burning heart with strong emoji “we won but theres still more to come”🤷‍♂️😭 we got our tinfoil hats on

[jolly junco]

https://tenor.com/view/build-jakapan-delulu-gif-7202883075778887592

[copper current]

burning heart means fire as dope

[heady gate]

50k - 100k won = $35 to $70 usd

[tawdry vessel]

and if hybe got notified they lost we would have gotten a lot of media play today but they're silent

[wind monolith]

Hybe would have done media play both ways im pretty sure

[cerulean lake]

why would she say “today too” then

[tawdry vessel]

maybe they got notified yesterday and we will be getting the public announcement of the result today

[tawdry vessel]

trueee

[cosmic belfry]

Dani doomposting

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1901865884970365342

[narrow seal]

250318 Cake🍀 (@​CakeDegg) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1901865884970365342
All the Korean rats are crawling out right before njz’s redebut . The timing is so suspicious. And I remember that hybe is good at using fans to divide fandoms. And girls if u are here saw some shit posts dont worry, that’s not bunnies

[cinder narwhal]

overthinkers in the chat

[cinder narwhal]

practice yesterday, practice today too

[split bramble]

if injunction is granted will they have to pull out of complexcon?

[cinder narwhal]

they mentioned after the injunction hearing it will push through no matter what so ig they're willing to pay fines

[fleet nebula]

fines are temporary, first independent performance is forever

[cerulean lake]

oh yeah i was thinking that too. i was just responding to starlight asking abt the emojis 😭

[cinder narwhal]

overthink this next

[wind monolith]

the sleep was so good that they won in their dreams

[tawdry vessel]

when you're defeated you dont even want to fix your hair or wash your face you just want to lay on bed and sleep

okay imma stop sorry

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-realize-happy-sad-face-emoji-happysademoji-gif-8604103079058988299

positivity

[waxen musk]

Saw MHJ's win. Hopefully a sign of more to come.

[red thorn]

Partial win bc it could've been 3 mil krw per person

[midnight zodiac]

but even then you can still make waves

[stiff prairie]

Whadid she win?

[waxen musk]

#1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1742342820:f>

from scattered___

[Exclusive] ‘NewJeans Mom’ Min Hee-jin Cracks Down on Malicious Commenters… Wins Compensation
https://mbiz.heraldcorp.com/article/10444735
[Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[stiff prairie]

Do we know how many ppl she got on that?

[tardy smelt]

it says 8 people

she won some pocket change

[stiff prairie]

does it even cover the lawsuit legal fees

[opaque torrent]

No lol

The big dogs are HYBE and dispatch

I wonder if she’s still going after Lee Jin Ho too

[stiff prairie]

there's so many lawsuits i keep forgetting about. like dir shin v ador one. no news on that either

[rain spade]

only 8 ppl? so sad

[copper jetty]

Eh.. it is what it is... plus those are just average people who comments...

I'd rather her get a win with Lee jinho or that belift ceo guy but a win is still a win.

[short laurel]

It sets an example to online commenters.
But remember belift threatened law suit to online commenters. Just in the belift case commenters are on the right.

I wish there was more backlash on this.

[cerulean lake]

she needs to go after him especially with him being in hot waters rn

[heady gate]

8 people X $35 to $70 USD. That is nothing

[rain spade]

Pay rent gone already

[hollow sorrel]

flight to Hong Kong covered

[copper jetty]

Hotel not covered yet though

[hollow sorrel]

y’all I have a question.
so ADOR wants to ban NJZ from all entertainment activities, but do we know whether or not that includes social media usage??

cause in my mind as long as they are posting on @NJZ_official we’re fine, but if for some reason the injunction would be granted would that mean they can no longer use social media that is not under ADOR’s control?

[opaque torrent]

we don't know anything

[upbeat stream]

It seems to me that they plan to not honor the injunction

[opaque torrent]

theres also the appeals court, which is the higher court

[upbeat stream]

Minji was asked outside the courtroom, 'what happens to Complexcon if injunction is granted?', and she replied, ' if possible, we'll proceed as planned'

[opaque torrent]

like can we not be so gloom and doom when the request itself is illegal

[cinder narwhal]

it is?

[opaque torrent]

yah a company does not own a person and cannot ban them from earning a living

[frozen granite]

Can yall just wait to hear the results ?

[stiff prairie]

chill bro. everyone needs ranting and venting days w everything going on

[frozen granite]

Nothing is going though lol

[opaque torrent]

you are hoping for news next week so just mute this channel until then lol

[silk skiff]

weren’t you the one venting the other day too? let others vent

[frozen granite]

Yah when the whole mediaplaying was happening nothing is occurring at the moment lmao

I just know everything will work out fine & NJZ will come out victorious <3333

[gentle badger]

*x https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1902261118539853866?t=opGwYhwAFwnxoIFuOR1kEA&s=19

[harsh dove]

@thegreatgaram <t:1742369367:d>

[mild mist]

Yeah, if these people get a criminal record from it then that's significant

[waxen musk]

ugh just knowing we'll have to wait at least another day is painful

[red thorn]

https://www.billboard.com/pro/newjeans-name-change-njz-legal-battle-record-label/ this article reeks media game, and ofc money today and sports today in sync covering this article with stretching headline

[tawdry vessel]

emotional hanni story

are we cooked chat or not

[waxen musk]

it's minji because of the🧸 emote

[tawdry vessel]

oh my bad lol

[waxen musk]

and stop analysing everything they post trying to guess if they know something already

[tawdry vessel]

they get notified in advance

[stable escarp]

expressing gratitude meaning weve won

[upbeat stream]

Really? Billboard has been quite supportive of njz

[tawdry vessel]

dont give them clicks

[upbeat stream]

Yeah I haven't read the article yet because western media rarely has anything exclusive