#NJZ Updates and Discussion

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wind monolith
leaden thistle
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Yet, still the most popular gg in 4th gen under Hybe

copper jetty
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I can't explain it but there are still loopholes in that kind of logic though

wind monolith
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Ur trying to say they showed the members greet her on a diff time so it debunks it?

copper jetty
short laurel
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video neither debunked anything or proved anything. video shows nothing. hanni never said illit didn't great them, she instead said they did greet her. she only complained about manager. cctv doesn't show anything on that. hence cctv is irrelevant.

copper jetty
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The only reason I could think of is it's tied up to Ador's reasoning regarding NJZ's claim

short laurel
copper jetty
short laurel
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court has also seen the kkt msg submitted by both side which helps it further.

wind monolith
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Didnt mhj first injuction have evidence from hybe that was later rejected or am i tripping

short laurel
cinder narwhal
copper jetty
cinder narwhal
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lol sometimes I wonder if he types up everything he yaps or he uses ai

short laurel
storm warren
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what he says makes sense tho

cerulean lake
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did we learn it was rejected by the first hearing or after both hearings were done?

copper jetty
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There likely won't be any other hearing

short laurel
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idk. even in this case we don't know if judge accepted or rejected ador's evidence.

cerulean lake
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if it was accepted as evidence, i feel like hanni should clear up that the cctv was from a different day or smth

upbeat stream
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Injunction cases typically have 1 hearing, only in rare cases do you have more

cerulean lake
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hm so they just look at the other evidence afterwards and then make a decision?

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that’s lowkey scary bc then they can’t hear out either side anymore to clear things up

upbeat stream
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Yes court is accepting evidence till 14th, then will take upto a week to issue a ruling

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We can expect the ruling between 17-21 March

short laurel
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cctv is along with the kkt talk. remember hanni said she was alone and she did said members greeted her. just manager words to ignore her. cctv shows hanni is not alone but is also shwos members did greet her but the manager ignored her.
judge will c both the kkt and cctv since both comes under same event.

cerulean lake
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shit 😬😬 might not wanna open up discord in case there’s bad news or smth bc that’s finals week for me 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️

cerulean lake
copper jetty
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Does Korea really not have laws against illegaly collected evidence? Because Sejong didn't make that argument as far I am aware

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That's just insane to me

short laurel
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usually wait 1 day after the ruling to get decent translation of ruling, otherwise it will be mistranslated hate jsut like with mhj 1st injuction. mhj won but hybe media and reddit keep saying hybe won tokkiCANT

short laurel
cerulean lake
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man i just don’t wanna be depressed even more 🤧🤧 can’t have all this drama stretch out so long just for hybe to win in the end or smth

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just remembered how everyone was so surprised that mhj won the first injunction

upbeat stream
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If hybe wins, I'm deleting twitter and leaving this thread until things get better. It just has to get better at some point, right? My innocent girls can't be punished like this when they didn't do anything wrong.

short laurel
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if nj loses they will appeal. it's not going to end quickly

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everyone noticed that hybe submitted wrong cctv so they will eventually get punished.

cerulean lake
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yeah but even if they appeal i don’t think i can stand these fanwars and all that online hate anymore. it gets to a point and we all know those antis are gonna have a field day if hybe wins

heavy ocean
wind monolith
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Im deactivating most social media that i use to get info if that happens

heavy ocean
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I still find it a lil crazy how lsf fans bring up the clip of Yunjin saying "I wanna change the idol industry" but when someone (Hanni) tries to they act against them

short laurel
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Btw to remind about 16b for establishing ador n launching nj. Nj launch bunch was lower than hybe's other groups. Yet more successful. Anti's keep calling nj privileged when their fav got more investment n direct blessing of bsh.

jolly junco
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BNZ better be playing this than involved in petty fanwars

weak relic
jolly junco
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thats hybe game, stop playing it

weak relic
jolly junco
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start playing the sudoku to fill in your freetime HanniDevious

cinder narwhal
jolly junco
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OMG did sniper comeback?

weak relic
jolly junco
weak relic
jolly junco
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its okay better not to know who they are

weak relic
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ok

bronze jetty
hushed whale
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yeah sniper wannabe. dumb tokkis basically made that new account big lmao
remember seeing tweets from that account with only like 3-5 likes

hoary frost
storm warren
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Another excellent PPT by NJZ legal team (Sejong).

Blows up the PPT lies presented by ODOR/HYBE on producers/plans they “claim” to have in store for NJZ if they come back.

“Even by the (ODOR’s) own claims, the planning materials for the full-length album were created after+

short laurel
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good counter to some of the bs anti's are saying to defend odor

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i hope someone can get in touch with people on that producer list to confirm if they are working on NJ or not. if not that would destroy ador.

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if they are then as it said they started workign on it after termination so nothing changes.

storm warren
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does anyone have ador ppt image about advertising deals if there was any. i noticed that account that posted images went private and i didnt save them

frozen granite
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Gm !

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How is everyone doing ?

storm warren
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surviving DanielleMcCormick

frozen granite
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We’ll be ok ! Anyway NJZ followers increased by a thousand in just about 8 hrs

copper current
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copper current
storm warren
upbeat stream
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I do follow them so lemme see

storm warren
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ohh great they made a thread of images

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weak relic
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explain pls

storm warren
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thank u so much hyeinbigheart hyeinbigheart

upbeat stream
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These are ppt slides presented in court, left is njz and right ador (blue borders)

waxen musk
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lol I usually backread everything pretty quickly, but I have only started doing so in #newjeans-chat from earlier and what the hell happened in there. Haters infesting it and nothing being done about it despite it meant for this thread (if at all). (Mods please. tokkisob)

Anyway I will backread here later, but I from what I quickly saw on Twitter from the good big accounts, seems like it should boost some people's confidence a bit more. Mine only grows more and more. tokkilove

upbeat stream
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We really need more mods, but after what happened it's understandable that the team doesn't trust many people to be mods

stiff prairie
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i'm still shooketh there's no announcement or pin for the global petition that's supposed to help njz in court. and this is the biggest njz server tokkiCANT

upbeat stream
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Dude I just saw the most insane comment on reddit, tf are they smoking?

stiff prairie
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bro i laughed so hard at this i can't even

copper current
stiff prairie
waxen musk
storm warren
waxen musk
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Anyway I don't know if this is true but it only seems like mods are here for a short time every day and are only summoned when requested. I don't know which mods are here religiously like some of us. HanniDevious (Sorry of topic.)

short laurel
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non ash. non

hot girder
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I don't think I've seen a mod talk here like. ever

tawdry vessel
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mods just dont care

copper current
copper current
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tokkis on X should pin that too, not mandatory, if they like

storm warren
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loops retweet or directly posting petition link would be the most beneficial

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naturally all fanbases posting it at once would be the best. its important that the court hears fan's voices too

waxen musk
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btw I wasn't talking about Twitter ealier. I was talking about this server. An announcement or pin in this server for the petition. Edit: Sorry I said this before I realised what people were saying in the main chat.

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Seen people fully quoting that Dispatch article in that forum I keep mentioning and I think I need to pretend that place doesn't exist, not that there many people speaking in there anyway.

copper jetty
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I'm surprised the mods hasn't already pinned the petition earlier. It's been days?

cinder narwhal
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @talytokki <t:1741542232:d>

cinder narwhal
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💀

waxen musk
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I hope he keeps losing weight until he vanishes into thin air.

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waxen musk
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https://x.com/luenacore/status/1898852485315625306
Apparently the messages are rearranged depending on the source you look at.
I haven't analysed it myself yet, but maybe that's why when I talked about it the other day, some message was missing from what NJZ's side submitted but was found on Ador's side.
I dunno. Kinda bored of looking at these messages. HanniDevious

I'm not sure exactly how to present the analysis of the text messages along with the timeline, but let me tell you, once you understand what's going on, you'll realize that ADOR/HYBE's only intention was media play.

jolly junco
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Only jhin is the true mod but idk where did he go, havent seen him for days

waxen musk
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Keep trying to direct people in here but I don't think it really works lol. Eh whatever with mods not caring too much, I think if people wanna talk in main chat, they're gonna do it regardless. HanniShrug

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I have yet to post this video from Taly, which has great poitns especially about the hate towards ILLIT from Bunnies: https://www.tiktok.com/@talytokki/video/7479586208390188331

TikTok

3087 likes, 216 comments. “Replying to @dalia nadif #greenscreen I’m in no way coming for the person who made this comment.. just wanted to use your comment to address this! 🫶 @NJZ #njz #뉴진스 #newjeans #njz_official #newjeansupdate #njzupdate #illit njz njz official hanni kakaotalk illit ignore her newjeans newjeans situation explained”

▶ Play video
frozen granite
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Anything new ??

jolly junco
waxen musk
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People get heated from it too quickly. I send them link they wont watch anyway they'd rather try to argue before learning more info.

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And it's happening because people just got pinged for the petition. tokkiCANT

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Already seeing people saying they wont bother. tokkisob

vital orbit
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but at the same time why would you say that when the person youre supposed to ignore is literally right infront of you lol its js in bad taste

waxen musk
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Yeah I have seen other K-pop groups just blindly being told what to do, especially when they're super young and not in the business for long. People judge these young idols way too harshly without criticising the people in charge way too easily.

wind monolith
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Main chat pissing me off

waxen musk
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Doesn't make what they did right or anything, but people just properly HATE them (both sides) and it's scary.

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Nothing really deserves this amount of constant hate towards young people trying to bring happiness into people's lives. And they're barely in charge of what they do either. It is sad though.

midnight zodiac
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i think people just take things to the extreme

vital orbit
frozen granite
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What’s going on????

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Someone fill me in pls

waxen musk
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Nothing is happening. We're just talking.

frozen granite
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Oh ok, thought something came out

vital orbit
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it depends — do you want to view this person as some evil young girl or do you want to have empathy and understand whats going on

maybe they were js tired of being told what to do and just wanted to shut them up HanniDevious

midnight zodiac
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someone mentioned hanni lying in main chat. so we're just talking now

frozen granite
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Oh ok good, I don’t think we need division on main chat so if they want to think that that’s fine. Truth is NJZ is increasing in followers & they are loved by far more people

midnight zodiac
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do we have a good summary of all the info from the court hearing?

vital orbit
frozen granite
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5 more days guys !

quartz creek
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till?

frozen granite
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For the evidence submission deadline

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Let see if the judge will decide something then

midnight zodiac
waxen musk
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I like using KST cos everything is in the future, meaning only 4 days for deadline HanniDevious (and 13 for new music)

cerulean lake
waxen musk
cerulean lake
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those ppl are old asf and can’t think critically

waxen musk
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I don't think age has much to do with anything when it comes to idiots on the internet.

cerulean lake
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usually people equate young people as trolls bc they’re usually more immature but there are some old people who still cannot think critically and still like to act immaturely because they’re haven’t grown up mentally

frozen granite
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NJZ will win! I feel it tokkilove

waxen musk
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With the producer bs talk, I was reminded of 250's opening DJ set at Bunnies Camp. How could you think about replacing such important pillars of NewJeans' identity.

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I'm gonna watch Bunnies Camp again right now.

uncut hedge
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Do we know when to expect the court's ruling on the injunction?

tawdry vessel
upbeat stream
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Why not the new song? Merely performing at Complexcon would still be a violation of the court order, I don't think they care tbh

tawdry vessel
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oh yeah trueee that might get cancelled too

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truly disgusting

upbeat stream
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Minji was asked after the hearing what happens to their concert if the injunction is granted, and she said, "if possible, we'll proceed as planned"

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So yeah I think they'll appeal and go ahead with it

kindred estuary
uncut hedge
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ah, thank you

jolly junco
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iirc MHJ have another court hearing this weekend right?

frozen granite
tawdry vessel
frozen granite
tawdry vessel
cinder narwhal
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and NJZ has the power to perform unless hybe shoots their knees or something

upbeat stream
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They are using hybe's tactics. During the 2nd injunction, hybe said that they will ignore the injunction and fire mhj again even if the court re-instates her, making it futile

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tawdry vessel
cerulean lake
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i thought it was to show that she didn’t commit those allegations that hybe was accusing her of?

tawdry vessel
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fired her as a ceo i meant

cerulean lake
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oh yeah i remembered the judge said smth abt not firing her but they still did + there were confusing details regarding her shares but I didn’t really take the time to read all that out

cinder narwhal
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about ador submitting false evidence (kkt, cctv), I saw this comment.
maybe this is also why hanni held back (or was told to by her lawyers)

upbeat stream
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They never fired her, instead they fired all the other directors. Then the newly appointed board fired her, so that hybe could claim that it was an internal decision of ador, nothing to do with hybe. In fact, Sejong was worried about this from the beginning, they talked about it in her 2nd presscon

tawdry vessel
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a loophole kinda yeah and we all knew hybe did it

cerulean lake
cerulean lake
copper current
waxen musk
prisma nova
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I have a feeling once HYBE gets exposed, all the njz antis will be like “Now that njz has been proven innocent, I think I can safely say I love their new music and I actually was still bopping to their music”

frozen granite
prisma nova
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Also gl to gllits bc once armies turn on them…

frozen granite
prisma nova
prisma nova
craggy skiff
frozen granite
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Wait let me rephrase it, I still like bts, but I don’t listen to it as much. The fandom sort of killed it

marsh roost
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it may also just be the passing of time, that's the reason why companies keep debuting new groups every few years

cerulean lake
cerulean lake
stiff prairie
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wasn't here during the announcement. did folks come up there to say "hanni lied and supports mhj" that's why they don't support njz anymore? smth like that?

frozen granite
stiff prairie
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yep. had enough fight first 2 days. i choose peace now

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but how does our tiktok keep getting banned? we even have 4 posts now there

stiff prairie
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do they have that ability to bring down acc w ~500k followers? and the way it keeps getting unbanned too tokkiCANT

frozen granite
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Jobless activities I guess & I think so bc why are the other fan njz accounts not getting banned despite getting more followers than the official one ??

high totem
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i dont think antis would be able to ban their account, since other big accounts probably get reported a lot too

frozen granite
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Plus armies on twitter have been trying to report the official Njz account as fake

stiff prairie
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march 23 we release new music, lotsa tiktoks on that and then we can live in peace i think

stiff prairie
frozen granite
high totem
waxen musk
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People saying @NewJeans_ADOR is the real account and to report @NJZ_official as an impersonator account. Actual mental illness.

weak relic
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lmao retar*

stiff prairie
stiff prairie
frozen granite
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When can NJZ social media get verified ??

weak relic
craggy skiff
weak relic
frozen granite
weak relic
stiff prairie
frozen granite
stiff prairie
frozen granite
stiff prairie
frozen granite
frozen granite
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Guys we’re so close to hitting 500k on tiktok (again)

stiff prairie
# cerulean lake what??

yes. i saw a tweet of a bunny screenshoting someone 2 yrs ago used minji's pic to drag jennie and that same person dragged minji yesterday using wonhee's pic. they didn't delete that post so bunnies found it out. props to remembering and finding that tho

cerulean lake
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not them trying to get blinks on our ass too

stiff prairie
frozen granite
cerulean lake
midnight zodiac
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how bad was it?

frozen granite
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Guys don’t worry we are gaining more than we are losing💀

stiff prairie
pulsar wasp
narrow sealBOT
cerulean lake
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in this whole ordeal, i’ve actually started to appreciate blinks more but i don’t want that statement to turn bad 😭. i also appreciate mys but mys are lowkey scary asf too.

frozen granite
cerulean lake
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i can see why blinks hated armys so badly 🧐

frozen granite
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I want Lisa x NJZ crumbs so badly !!!! hannihmm

stiff prairie
cerulean lake
frozen granite
pulsar wasp
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as much as the members are going through a long arduous journey, we as BNZ are going through our own battles each day. I love y’all BNZ

short laurel
cerulean lake
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i mean it was one fan acc so i didn’t generalize tokkis. having one anti lead one fan acc doesn’t mean all tokkis thought that.

i would be more mad at armies calling lisa “lisman” or a “monkey”. literal psychotic behavior

frozen granite
cerulean lake
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sad how a lot of armys are females but they still say this stuff to other females 😵‍💫

frozen granite
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Who would you want Njz to collab next with ??

midnight zodiac
stiff prairie
short laurel
cerulean lake
# frozen granite Who would you want Njz to collab next with ??

collabing with a western artist (especially a rap artist) would be lowkey cool (not bc i want them westernized or anything but njz’s music is lowkey kinda westernized already)

njz don’t rap much on their songs but their beats can be very good. i wanna see a rap artist on their songs just like zero with jid. Any type of rnb artist would be nice too.

stiff prairie
cerulean lake
cinder narwhal
stiff prairie
cerulean lake
cerulean lake
frozen granite
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This is the list I want NJZ to collab with:

  1. Nintendo
  2. takashi murakami pt. 2
  3. hello kitty
  4. sega
  5. ppg pt. 2
  6. a dance collab with BP or a photoshoot with them
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Oh & Pokémon !!!

weak relic
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NJZ collab with all brand of phone

frozen granite
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WE HIT 500k !!

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See I told yall we are getting more followers than losing 🤭 twitter/reddit hate doesn’t mean anything in the real world

midnight zodiac
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i like how you're on top of follower numbers

stiff prairie
frozen granite
stiff prairie
frozen granite
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I am just not on track on twitter so much bc I don’t like it. I honestly wish the girls had not created an account on there but oh well more exposure for them I guess … it is just toxic after that man bought the app

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Oh & we are 25k away from hitting 5.3m on ig ! Isn’t that crazy? Ever since they announced their re-debut they gained 1m & it’s barely been a month & I don’t want to name drop any artist but that one group hasn’t gotten even half of a million since their Coachella performance a year ago …

stiff prairie
upbeat stream
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Despite all the hate tweets, twitter is still the only platform where we have huge support too. The hate tweets come from those 3 fandoms, everyone else likes njz, that does not seem to be the case on other platforms, where people are even more misinformed

stiff prairie
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On tiktok we can't see history of the ones commenting so it looks like gen ppl hating on us. On twt reddit we can see that which leads to one of three fandoms

dawn phoenix
frozen granite
dawn phoenix
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i see

silk skiff
tawdry vessel
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numbers are cool but we need to stop obsessing about it

short laurel
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Why can't ppl admit that hate is generated against everyone n that is hybe's entire goal. Ppl coming here blaming Tokkies completely ignoring everyone saying companies the problem. All gg's produced under hybe nvr had a quiet day after every cb. It was an issue even be4 nj. Not a single gg have seen a peaceful cb under that company.

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Even the gg from bighit days had this issue.

cerulean lake
short laurel
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Nice reddit keep sending notification to me of another lie haters made in their head against hanni. Why is there no option of misinformation in report button

stiff prairie
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what did they say this time

short laurel
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||they posted some fake translation saying hanni said 3 illit members disrespected her|| which we know hanni nvr said.

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Can't even argue there be4 getting deleted

stiff prairie
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well they are seeing that ppl eat up whatever they say so why not

stiff prairie
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lmao the way it has 0 upvotes cause you can't go negative on a post lmao

cerulean lake
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we all know that post is gonna get either obliterated by those antis or the mods will remove it 🥰🥰

stiff prairie
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nah it's an old post that didn't get any traction. it'll stay. which makes me think why is namiko self torturing themself by going thru old posts from kpop uncensored lol

short laurel
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i actually found it on google. i was searching "why reddit spreading misinformation about newjeans"

stiff prairie
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did u get an answer?

short laurel
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nope.

stiff prairie
cerulean lake
half knot
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kpop uncensored in particular has basically turned into a karma farming scheme whenever they post anything bp or nj related

cerulean lake
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bp and njz: the two villains of reddit + aespa once in a while

short laurel
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Exo too

fierce cloak
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they mostly are misogynistic army lol

gritty garnet
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Is there an English translation somewhere for the "Excerpt Image of the Legal Opinion Statement" that is mentioned in the tweet for the petition?

bronze jetty
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if you guys are able to, send these reddit threads to team bunnies. i’ve sent a few already

cinder narwhal
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I love bubblegum

short laurel
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i sometimes fear if njz fansites are mistranslating. but then i meet casual kpop fans in real world. n surprised to know they supporting njz despite not following the drama.

short laurel
cinder narwhal
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you'd think they'd do something even after njz left as a show of good faith... LOL

short laurel
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but where's the action for finding the source of those leaks ?

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ador really running with tempering regarding NA

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using dispatch articles too

kindred estuary
upbeat stream
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The videos are still present in their original form on instagram, I hope Sejong hammers home this point

copper jetty
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Just read those slides and thank you to OP for actually translating it but I have some questions

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Did hanni specify what date it is? I've been seeing dates and unsure wether it is May 27 or May 28.

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Also this slide. I don't know how Ador/ Hybe would argue how they don't want their other groups to be compared to NewJeans... or they could just argue that it's a Hybe document and not Ador. 🤷‍♀️

pulsar wasp
cinder narwhal
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @luenacore <t:1741595677:d>

The 5 organizations that publicly condemned NJZ recently held a personal interview following criticism for their involvement and for presenting a one-sided narrative that exclusively reflected HYBE's position. Now, in an apparent attempt at damage control, they claim that their statements were "misunderstood" and that their intentions were misrepresented.

However, this interview does little to alter the narrative they established during their press conference. Their argument against exclusive contracts paradoxically acknowledges that artists have the right to terminate their agreements when a company fails to fulfill its duty of protection—an indirect validation of NJZ’s contract terminaion. What seems to truly frustrate this man is not just the defense of NJZ but the broader solidarity between artists and their fans. He appears to resent the power of a collective voice, particularly when fans unite to support those they admire, as it disrupts the traditional dynamic between agencies and artists.

But let’s be clear: this is not merely about fans standing up for their favorite artists. This is about human beings standing up for other human beings. There is undeniable power in numbers, and that is precisely what individuals like him—and the greedy organizations he represents—find so threatening. When people recognize their collective strength and refuse to be silenced, it disrupts the hierarchy of power built on wealth and influence. And in any battle between corporate greed and the will of the people, history has shown that those who prioritize power and greed over fairness will never truly prevail.

🔗: https://www.ytn.co.kr/_sn/0117_202503101545249596

cinder narwhal
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not everyone has a fandom as good as bnz hyeinsmirk

stiff prairie
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don't read the comments if you don't want to ruin your day. but the new narrative is to create division btn njz members tokkiCANT these ppl don't have any clue what they're talking about i fear. trying to create a 50 50 situation i think

cinder narwhal
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at this point in the game? lol

stiff prairie
craggy skiff
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hanni story after court make hater more annoying.
I understand her angry when ador twist her message but it give more fuel to hater.
See they comment about why dont she just say everything in court is sucks

stiff prairie
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it's always diff when western artists go on rage or show emotions vs kpop idol. they just want idols to be dolls, stay pretty, sing and dance that's it

short laurel
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but yea i have question too now. cuz hanni's msg doesn't say 3 members ignored her. so why her lawyers put that.

short laurel
# harsh dove <:x_:1135484782642466897> **@luenacore** <t:1741595677:d> >>> The 5 organization...

@luenacore You see, this is why they were shocked when NJZ announced they will not file an injunction and honoured the remaining schedules after terminating their contracts. Because if the girls filed an injunction, they will have to halt doing the remaining scheds until the court decides.

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this is NOT a new method. there's been precedence in Korean entertainment industry.

split bramble
cerulean lake
mild mist
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If so she'll probably wait until the main contract termination suit
No point in showing your cards early

copper jetty
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True.

Also I think NJZ side needs to hammer down the canceled 2024 events including the album and the fanmeet. I didn't see any points by Kim & Chang on why it was canceled.

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They're too focused on the 2025 plans that it's weird that they didn't even give any reason there for why they canceled that when it was already ongoing.

upbeat stream
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Correct me if I'm wrong but dispatch did not mention the ribbon incident in their article, right?

copper jetty
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I've only read the translated slides from above

upbeat stream
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I don't want to give them clicks so I'll see if I can find an abridged version

polar owl
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Is this right - "After the hearing, the court directed NewJeans to restructure their list of contract termination reasons and provide stronger evidence against ADOR before March 14" ?

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Read this in the news

upbeat stream
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From which article? I saw a statement like this but worded quite differently in lawtimes

polar owl
upbeat stream
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With this and the ribbon thing, guess I'm gonna have to read that dispatch article

copper jetty
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Here is the dispatch article. I skimmed it and I didn't see anything regarding the ribbon incident

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Regarding the 2024 activities this is NewJeans' stance and Ador's rebuttal

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Also just noted here, MHJ didn't accept the producer contracts with Fraudor right? So why in the hell, are they expecting her to return to productions??

upbeat stream
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Yeah no, Times of India is on crack, Dispatch doesn't say anything of the sort. In fact they say exactly what Lawtimes article said

copper jetty
upbeat stream
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See above

polar owl
upbeat stream
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You just gave me a huge scare bro HanniLul

storm warren
upbeat stream
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As an Indian, I can tell you Times of India is very unreliable

polar owl
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All of the media is pretty unreliable. I thought they would quote correct sources for external news, at the least.

short laurel
short laurel
slender frigate
wind monolith
short laurel
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yea when mhj was initially kicked from ador. previous hybe ceo told NJZ parents that they looking for "grammy winning producer" which will take up to 18 months.

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this is practically abandoning a group at their peek of popularity.

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now anti's use excuse that he is no longer hybe ceo. but he is still in position of power within hybe.

upbeat stream
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What an insane excuse? How does it take 18 months to find a producer?

copper jetty
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Also like I said it is weird that they're focusing on the 2025 plans. Remember Ador already announced the NJ1 album at Q4 of 2024 even before April. Meaning they would've already had the rough plans then. Then we heard the cancelations because of this mess so the timeline they're saying is quite.... HanniAwkwardSmile2

storm warren
wind monolith
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Pre sure court just wants all the rsns on one table instead of different slides no?

copper jetty
short laurel
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we not really know what court actually said. and we not have all the slides both sides shared in court. only parts of it. court asking for submission of addition evidence for injunction is normal. whether judged speciacally instructed nj or not we don't really know. we'll only find out these little things after result is out.

storm warren
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they dont want to rewrite it but reorganize in simple manner

upbeat stream
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Hmm, so the fact that dispatch didn't include the ribbon incident in their summary means that hybe's explanation is likely bs

short laurel
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i m saying this with experience of how media previously shared info in MHJ 1st injuction. even though MHJ was the winner, hybe and media spread news aroudn as if they won.

upbeat stream
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It made so much noise, right alongside ignoregate and source's lv drama, so it makes no sense not to include it if hybe isn't in the wrong

red thorn
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I think I remember tokki made an infographic or something for cctv incident timeline, anyone has the link?

copper jetty
upbeat stream
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Which is why the omission of ribbon is even more glaring

sage venture
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HYBE's explanation for ribbon issue was very strange They didn’t directly say that it didn't happened They vaguely said that it was NJZ side that made the choice

storm warren
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milo pointed out that in court they said they wanted to avoid fans backlash, while hybe statement said they were inquiring w broadcasting station

copper jetty
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Yeah k&c's arguments idk, I can actually see a lot of holes in there.

2024 plans fell through (NJ1 and korean fanmeet) without reason but they started already planning for the 2025?

Source leaked photos ( Ador asked dispatch to delete some of it is still on instagram) but there was no investigation whatsoever on where the source is but my guess is Ador can't ask another label to conduct an investigation regarding this but that is why they have Hybe HR no? They're both subsidiaries and if one has an issue with another then you go to the higher company which is hybe. Nothing points out that they did that.

copper jetty
sage venture
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i even saw someone post a Japanese newspaper showing other HYBE artists wearing the ribbon on the front page Normally, newspapers like this are prepared by HYBE's PR team well in advance of release So, it’s safe to say that wearing the ribbon was pre-planned

upbeat stream
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Tokkis at the time noticed how that newspaper mentioned other hybe artists but not newjeans

sage venture
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It’s so shady I really wish the the members had some proof

copper current
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They are bullying secretly, faking and bullying in secret, snakes corportions and artists

split bramble
grizzled summit
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hii yall can anyone contact team bunnies to sue rose's crib

short laurel
grizzled summit
jolly junco
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You can send report to team bunnies website

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I’m not gonna check on that chanel, need to keep my feeds clean

short laurel
# copper jetty

But guys even on nj side this has to be questioned. Why did they wrote that 3 passed by without greeting when hanni said they did.

grizzled summit
sage venture
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maybe that’s why Hanni said she’s holding back

stiff prairie
jolly junco
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my friend said someone died in korea (a celebrity), will this affect NJZ upcoming new music release?

sage venture
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i guess not FYI, It’s Wheesung, an rnb singer who used to be famous back in the day

jolly junco
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yeah i know him, he is really famous

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but idol usually postpone their activities when someone died

sage venture
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that’s true but he’s kind of out of the spotlight? After the drug problem, sadly, it seems unlikely he’ll become a major topic again

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you know, Koreans are super strict when it comes to drug issues

jolly junco
sage venture
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yep that’s sort of true as well

stiff prairie
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @sheepymcsheepy <t:1741593730:d>

The comments are killing me 🤣

short laurel
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i wonder how many content are left with ador. i haven't watched a single one ever since girls terminated their contract.

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has there been any changes in quality or style of the video after ador's og staff left?

stiff prairie
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Haven't seen about jeans only watched jeans zine which looked pretty similar to me

jolly junco
short laurel
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i m kinda curious. i thought girls were familiar with their og staff including editors since their team was small. but after that odor ceo shared the editors akgae type comment it seems like og editor still with odor and girls never meet them.

stiff prairie
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Editing team is still there I think. The ones who take the videos might not be

short laurel
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i remember some comment about editor saying MHJ is strict but is nice. and they stayed with ador even after all this. tokkisob

rugged dagger
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cant blame people for choosing security and keeping their jobs

short laurel
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yea i understand. but it still feels sad cuz their words are used by ador against girls.

frozen granite
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Coke is still partnered with NJZ? There was a video released yesterday I believe

short laurel
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if there was. we'd c that in #media pretty sure.

frozen granite
hushed whale
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yeah its new

"So fresh so clean" will be held at Metropolitan Dobi Express in Kuala Lumpur from 12 to 15 March 2025.

short laurel
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they must have made it back at ador n releasing now. i don't think girls would agree to work under newjeans name after termination until they win their ip.

frozen granite
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3 more days !!!

hushed whale
upbeat stream
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Perhaps they would. They said they would honor brand deals, and they pay very well. Most of the income njz have made throughout their career has been from cfs

frozen granite
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There are so many articles being posted making it seem that ador has the upper hand it’s ugly

short laurel
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njz ig didn't post cocacola stuff either

wind monolith
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It says newjeans in the article and the event is called so fresh so clean so its def from before

copper current
frozen granite
split bramble
upbeat stream
# frozen granite Potentially the results

Don't expect it before the 17th. They can submit evidence till 14th which is Friday and then the court will review it. And from what I've noticed, judgements are always announced on weekdays, unless there's some emergency. So it's gonna be between 17-21 most likely

copper current
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We need powerful international Tokkis on YouTube and TikTok to fight misinformation. Hybe focus on YT and TikTok to defame NJ now.

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X tokkis did such a good job that haters could not fight them so YT and TikTok tokkis need to be stronger. I saw YT and TikTok videos from tokkis to correct misinfo were buried. We need to give those videos more streams

frozen granite
sly python
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are we winning?

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ive seen theres news but its all mostly speculative for now

short laurel
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We'll know sometime after 14th

cerulean lake
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idk about winning. There’s been a lot of articles that are speculating who is more valid on a legal standpoint. I’m scared that the judge will not consider the main injunction purpose where ador is literally trying to strip them of their right to do anything though 😭.

This injunction literally just feels like the main contract termination validity one and it’s making me feel iffy.

frozen granite
sly python
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one day, one injuction at a time tokkipray

half knot
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It's hilarious that on one hand these industry associations want to keep treating entertainment contracts as a business partnership of equal parties, with none of the employment and labor laws associated with employee-employer relationships and contracts, but still want to keep all the advantages that the company enjoys and the artist does not have access to.

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How often do kpop companies in Korea unilaterally terminate an artist's contract with no notice and nothing happens to them? They don't go to court to terminate this so-called equal party contract. If it was equal-parties, both sides would have access to the same termination clauses.

cerulean lake
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It’s only because these corporations wanna seep up the benefits without giving any of them to the workers/idols.

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i think their lawyers should also bring up the point when they said idols aren’t workers. If idols are not gonna have the same worker protection rights, then they shouldn’t be expected to act the same

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i wish the judge can be mindful of this but at the same time, there’s so much corruption in korea and he might be on the older side, which unfortunately, a lot of those older males tend to side with hybe 😭😭🤧

frozen granite
wind monolith
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Enough with corruption or we might lose. Lets just wait it out we literally have no idea how things will play out

cerulean lake
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yeah i need to stop being so negative. i think im just too pessimistic all the time

cinder narwhal
red thorn
vital orbit
vital orbit
jolly junco
wind monolith
vital orbit
wind monolith
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Thats mot what text is referring to its about kmca saying fandom pushing forward issues to national assembly and goverment

wind monolith
frozen granite
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F KMCA

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I can’t wait until NJZ wins praying

fleet nebula
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W Team Bunnies

vital orbit
# jolly junco yes we dont know what kind of person MHJ is in real life, but NJZ and their pare...

i was gonna reply to this with my opinion on this but i think ill keep it to myself especially since i have sth to say that contradicts it (written below) HanniShrug

but i also think its such a huge double standard that danielle saying NJZ is six for some reason pissed off the kpop community??? if it was another group thanking BSH or someone less controversial noone would bat an eye. the hate seems to be directed at danielle and NJZ instead of criticism against MHJ if anyone thinks theres a problem with her)

frozen granite
vital orbit
cerulean lake
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they’ve been using MHJ as an excuse to hate on the members directly. all that concern from cookie was also closeted hate for the members

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they always say “we’re criticizing MHJ” and then they turn around and call the members dumb or brainwashed

frozen granite
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dispatch is releasing articles making it seem njz is going to lose

cerulean lake
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where? but are we surprised tho

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they’ve been working for hybe and of course they want to spread that narrative

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that’s why i wish njz could win so these terrible journalists with no backbone can also face whatever hybw would face

frozen granite
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Taly posted a TikTok

vital orbit
vital orbit
cerulean lake
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i think the only court stuff we have from them rn is the ppt stuff shared by both sides. of course everyone is just gonna look at what hybe has to say tho

wind monolith
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werent the slides also shared by dispatch?

frozen granite
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In the article it made it seem that the judge specifically told njz to come up with more evidence

wind monolith
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I would take anything from Dispatch with a grain of salt.

tawdry vessel
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imagine believing dispatch

frozen granite
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Oh I don’t believe dispatch lol

tawdry vessel
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i know and yeah we shouldn't

wind monolith
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https://x.com/talytokki/status/1899152058571247767
ya so i was right the slides were released by dispatch

It’s important to note that the PPT slides were released by Ador and HYBE as part of media play. Dispatch then published an article breaking down the slides, claiming that in certain cases, NJZ’s side had no counter arguments—but that may not be entirely true.

I believe some of

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we havent got anything from njz side released offically thats y its only been hybe ador

hot girder
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dispatch can go to hell

frozen granite
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Someone on taly’s TikTok said this:
Most of NewJeans statements were involving Min Hee Jin. NewJeans brought about 93 PowerPoint presentation while ADOR brought a 229 PowerPoint presentation and a 30 min rebuttal of evidence.

wind monolith
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we have all seen the ador slides and how shit they have looked (quality > quantity) and if there statements involved mhj its bcz she was the only one taking initiative to protect them (example dispatch trainee leaks)

cinder narwhal
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maybe they're really banking on that old court case that granted validity to contract termination caused by a manager leaving

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btw this was so funny even though I had to translate quotes

frozen granite
cinder narwhal
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did they block you

wind monolith
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when all it did was praise minji

cinder narwhal
frozen granite
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What is extra time Indonesia ? I googled it & a lot of soccer came up lol

kindred estuary
# cinder narwhal

k-tokkies on twt stan already warning ppl not to follow that account lol

cinder narwhal
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yeah who knows it could be a Trojan horse

frozen granite
wind monolith
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dont know fs its a new account

frozen granite
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Oh I see, I’m so disconnected from twitter so idk what’s going on over there

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Is something big going on ?

cinder narwhal
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not atm

wind monolith
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other than fandom wars no

kindred estuary
frozen granite
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Guys stay off tiktok a lot of haters are making njz videos agh this is annoying

cinder verge
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what sources can i trust regarding the injunction? is naver unreliable?

wind monolith
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honestly talytokki tiktoks r good for information, if u want articles look for ilgan sports articles

split bramble
copper jetty
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Also idk i think whoever handles that account just wants followers and engagement. I don't like that account since they've already asked for that person to rename their account cause it causes confusion but they wouldn't do it. It's either someone who farms engagement or an anti for me.

vital orbit
cinder verge
cosmic belfry
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I believe naver is just a platform like Google or better Yahoo. It just hosts articles from certain news outlets.

half knot
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google and yahoo comparisons are apt, it was the dominant search engine in korea for a long time, and they also have video hosting platform similar to youtube (NaverTV, NaverNow) and provide the backend video hosting servers for Weverse (and used to own and run VLive)

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it also tried its hand at social media multiple times, and the comments sections are a remnant of that.

craggy skiff
frozen granite
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I think it’s safe to say that whatever the judge says NJZ will still perform at complexcon

thick glade
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the show must go on

frozen granite
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Yeah because they wouldn’t go as far as advertising their new merch or their performance

upbeat stream
frozen granite
short laurel
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When im reality ador's ppt are memed on 🤣

frozen granite
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I hate mediaplay

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I am just curious to know what would be the repercussions of NJZ performing

short laurel
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N I'll say it again. We don't know how much both sides showed to court. What we have it public is only parts of the PPT. It's written in that translated ppt link. So idk how ppl got "nj submitted this number n ador submitted this number"

frozen granite
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Antis were eating that up & claimed it as true. There has been a few TikTok’s with the same narrative & I have had to report them

short laurel
# short laurel N I'll say it again. We don't know how much both sides showed to court. What we ...
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Disclaimer: Please note that these PPTs have been partially disclosed through various media outlets, while all other slides remain undisclosed.

upbeat stream
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It's in the dispatch article. Of course they could lie but it seems like a petty thing to lie about, Sejong can correct them easily

short laurel
upbeat stream
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But the number doesn't matter, remember njz needs only one valid reason to win, while ador needs to refute every single one of them. So naturally they would need a lot more slides

frozen granite
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I know, I hate that this is getting to me at times tokkisob

upbeat stream
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It's the same reason why MHJ had a lot more slides for the defamation trial, she has been accused of many things as she yapped so much in public

short laurel
craggy skiff
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hybe use dispatch sneak pictures to demonstrate that they are doing their duty(include protect newjeans) is the most funny thing I ever see

half knot
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we don't know the exact phrasing, and it can be twisted to mean what you want based on connotations of the translation as you see fit. It simply could be the judge wants one unified condensed document that lists NJZ's reasons and justifications, as a reiteration in one place rather than spreadout throughout the powerpoint

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judges don't like doing the lawyers' homework for them, they don't like hunting and seeking stuff throughout several dozen pages of documents.

craggy skiff
half knot
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like chill, judge doesn't get paid enough for this shit. the sheer number of frivolous useless cases these judges go through everyday is ridiculous

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litigating everything and normalizing that was a mistake

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in one sweep the national assembly can fix this by removing their ridiculously open libel laws but they won't since it was originally made FOR politicians to sue people

craggy skiff
heady gate
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Dispatch is a tabloid focusing on celebrities and pop culture. I doubt a judge would rely on such a news source.

cerulean lake
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the dispatch that literally stalks celebrities and does all that creepy stuff is literally the tmz of korea

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there are apparently some other sectors of dispatch that are actually quite informative but of course those don’t get paid as much attention as this celebrity drama overseas

stiff prairie
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how we holding up guys?

frozen granite
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Hmmm idk sort of worried tbh

stiff prairie
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stay strong solders

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what's the worst that could happen anyway

frozen granite
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True, I just worry about the result a bit & more of the repercussions of their performance if the judge grants ador

stiff prairie
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we go chinese industry if that happens haerinnotbad

upbeat stream
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Does anyone know where I can find a korean transcript of newjeans' presscon? I remember some k-tokki compiled it but forgot who

stiff prairie
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but whatever happens we become a bit nugu that's what we gotta accept first

stiff prairie
stiff prairie
# frozen granite Oh 😭

but i've trained myself whole life to listen to indie artists before popular ones. i'm ready mentally HanniSmirk

short laurel
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indie > popular.

stiff prairie
harsh doveBOT
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copper jetty
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Guys anything new today??

stiff prairie
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don't think so. since dispatch was yesterday

cerulean lake
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I do not want those Reddit mofos to act like they were right all along and use that as an excuse to write even more nasty stuff

stiff prairie
frozen granite
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I guess it adds some legal validity to it it might help quell things down, but I understand you. I just fear that this will actually taint NJZ’s image

cerulean lake
frozen granite
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I just worry tbh & overthink a lot

cinder narwhal
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win or lose hate will never go away

upbeat stream
cerulean lake
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yes but winning could help decrease the hate A LOT and show that the girls weren’t lying or being mean

cinder narwhal
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best they can do is block it out, best we can do is not care because honestly we shouldn't be affected. only them.

cerulean lake
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or that they weren’t acting like spoiled brats like those antis always say

cerulean lake
cinder narwhal
copper jetty
cinder narwhal
cerulean lake
upbeat stream
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Yeah it's not tampering to have the same law firm

cinder narwhal
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Haha

cerulean lake
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they think same law firm = same ppl working on their cases??

frozen granite
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I somehow keep wishing this is a nightmare & newjeans is actually touring at the moment

cerulean lake
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we could have had it all last year

copper jetty
cerulean lake
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i think about how i could be listening to songs from their full album right now 😐

frozen granite
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I should be worried about getting vip tickets not about court results HanniLul tokkisob

copper jetty
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We could've gotten r&b NJZ already

upbeat stream
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The coke add has Minji wearing a tshirt with tour dates. If it was filmed before all this, then I wonder if it was meant to be a hint tokkisob

copper jetty
cerulean lake
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i will always hate hybe. regardless if they win or lose, im never giving money to that company again (except listening to spotify but that pays nothing)

frozen granite
half knot
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it's one of the biggest lawfirms in korea, and it has a history of representing sides that oppose HYBE. Sejeong was also SM and Kakao's lawfirm when HYBE was trying to hostile takeover SM

stiff prairie
copper jetty
short laurel
cerulean lake
short laurel
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SM was already a mess. hybe would've killed so many of it's groups though

cerulean lake
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so embarrassing i remember seeing them create a SM/HYBE twt acc all ready

copper jetty
short laurel
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hybe even made a website "hybe with sm"

cerulean lake
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he had a vision of the future

half knot
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they've since deleted all their videos and all the evidence lol
but internet remembers

short laurel
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yea since they put bts against exo n ntc, aespa with lsfm. exo aespa and all other be dungeoned by hybe.

short laurel
half knot
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hybe is weirdly obsessed with SM and has been trying to speedrun SM's 30 year legacy in just 5 years since creating this unified label system

frozen granite
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I just realized it’s been a year since I saw njz … excuse my friend’s voice

stiff prairie
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new idea: only one kpop agency-hybe. all idols all artist of korea under hybe. revolutionary

copper jetty
short laurel
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hybe stans still think they won. even though it was a minor win agaisnt kakao where even hybe employees were arrested.

copper jetty
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Monopoly HanniDevious

short laurel
copper jetty
short laurel
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bsh obsession with "king of kpop"

short laurel
frozen granite
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Question, how come the hyein didn’t go to the LV fashion week?

copper jetty
short laurel
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somu with gfriend were growing too. they wouldn't have grown as big as bp ofc but they were among biggest gg's of their gen.

frozen granite
copper jetty
short laurel
stiff prairie
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there's a reason they keep comments closed on anything njz most of the time

short laurel
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no? they keep comments closed on anything that supports njz but open on anything that goes against njz

copper jetty
copper jetty
short laurel
stiff prairie
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nope i was talking about those news stuff. i was mistaken

short laurel
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still i wanna c theqoo post of that with ktokkies clowning the article

jade jolt
narrow sealBOT
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twitter 250311 반희수🫧 (@​catztokki) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/catztokki/status/1899354460222345296
Advertisers are still looking for NewJeans as models despite the dispute with ADOR.

Advertising official said : “No matter which agency NewJeans is belong to, their widespread popularity is secure and may even grow into a bigger talking point.”

#NJZ @NJZ_official

cinder narwhal
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nice. only folks on reddit with their blinders on cant see this

heady gate
frozen granite
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Some “bunnies” are as irritating as antis 🙄 the switch up is crazy

stiff prairie
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better to have smaller fandom with full support than token stanners who's only in it because they're popular

frozen granite
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It is just upsetting that they are getting easily brainwashed ehh whatever I just hope they don’t come back again

upbeat stream
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I'm starting to get worried about korea. On twitter and theqoo we still have huge support, but youtube looks really bad right now. All the negative videos get 50k or 100k+ views and videos defending them get less than 10k

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It was very different during April-June last year

frozen granite
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I guess bc they didn’t think Njz would terminate their contracts. Agh im getting worried again guys

jolly junco
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wow 100++ chats, what happened?

hoary frost
fierce cloak
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well in korean side now they attention maybe focus on kim soohyun/ kim saeron topic

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People are quick to forget and move on, the attention will be on any new topics emerged
in the long run of njz career, these whole situation is a huge change of direction for them, but for most audience they wouldn't care, the hate will just fade away, as long as njz release new music, perform and have brand deals

cinder narwhal
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yeah remember the only ones who really care are the chronically online minority (including us). most people just tune in for the music. if they continue to release great songs there won't be any issue.

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if the song's bad that's when we panic HanniLul

fierce cloak
hollow sorrel
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can anyone explain why antis think this is a “gotcha” moment for NJZ?

“The court will conclude the hearing by the 14th and then determine the outcome of the injunction. It instructed both parties to submit any necessary evidence and materials by that date. Additionally, the court requested NewJeans’ side to reorganize and submit a list of reasons for the termination of their exclusive contract.

Like this literally doesn’t mean anything?!? People are saying stuff like the judge wasn’t impressed with their points, but it was only presentations so I don’t really get how they came to this conclusion.

short laurel
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dw. they made every little thing that sounds against njz as their gatcha moment. all of these moments turned out to be nothing

hollow sorrel
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its just sooo annoying the way that they twisted into “their points aren’t looking strong enough”

when in reality this happens a lot during cases like this where there are hundreds of slides of ppts

it’s happening for min heejin’s case against belift too where the court asked for 30 slides maximum

short laurel
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we can say same to hybe's side. their case isn't looking strong enough.

cerulean lake
frozen granite
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What’s a good counter argument to someone who is saying njz is blacklisted ? Someone sent this article pointing out that all agencies in Korea are against them https://v.daum.net/v/20250219090112702

다음 - 스포츠투데이

[스포츠투데이 김태형 기자] 한국매니지먼트연합, 한국연예제작자협회, 한국음악레이블산업협회, 한국음반산업협회, 한국음악콘텐츠협회 5개 음악단체가 탬퍼링 근절을 위한 정책 지원을 요구하는 호소문을 발표했다. 19일 한국매니지먼트연합, 한국연예제작자협회, 한국음악레이블산업협회, 한국음반산업협회, 한국음악콘텐츠협회(이하 5개 단체)는 "대중문화예술산업(이하 'K-

short laurel
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ooh this one. if they truly care about idols regardless of which side they are on here. they'd read that and immediately call out how bad these associations letter is.
these association has no right to make comments about still ongoing dispute in court. Even in NA they were worried about it. yes these 5 think they are above NA and court and say whatever they want without even knowing whats going on inside that company. SMH

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they keep calling out njz and mhj while it's clear that hybe is the one who not want to keep things private.

copper jetty
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Also isn't there a jyj law something that prevents blacklisting or is only applicable to broadcasts? 2nd, tampering allegations without proof, and third, those associations just doesn't want to change the status quo.

upbeat stream
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Where does it say that they are blacklisted? They even backtracked on their previous threat of removal from charts (which does literally nothing)

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And if they do get blacklisted in the future, they will fight through it. It'll be a blow but they can still release music and perform at concerts, that's what matters

waxen musk
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So much talk and media play since Friday that I've lost track of what we know for certain happened during the injunction hearing. I've chosen to ignore it all, it won't change anything.

frozen granite
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This person on TikTok is claimed NJZ is blacklisted in SK & then went to say MHJ is a p word. I’m no MHJ defender, but is she truly was the question is why isn’t she in jail?? Like wouldn’t that be common sense ?

short laurel
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while there's no proof against MHJ for being p*. there are alot of p word and many other bad things famous names there who are just roming around freely never getting any backlash. ||eg yg, lsm, and ofc bsh||

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intly mhj has gotten alot more backlash throughout her career over weird allegations kpoppies made in their own head than other people in kpop publically known to have done messed up things.

frozen granite
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Yeah people should really be careful when throwing that word around bc those are extremely serious accusations that can harm them as well

short laurel
frozen bronze
frozen granite
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That’s why I desperately want NJZ to win this injunction so these antis can shut up since we’ll have legal validity

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I’ve been praying everyday tokkisob

frozen bronze
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they dont care about legal validity

frozen granite
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Yeah but at least we can say that what NJZ has been saying is backed up by the judge agh 2 more days (maybe)

short laurel
frozen granite
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How is everyone doing ??

cerulean lake
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stressed bc of school and worried bc of this 😮‍💨

tawdry vessel
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not okay until the girls win

tired cairn
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I'm just waiting for new teasers. I cannot wait till complexcon without content

cerulean lake
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i really do not want to witness hybe/ador and the antis continue to harass them + us mentally

tired cairn
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Having stopped using twitter and not being on the kpop reddits is saving me from despair. I cannot recommend it enough

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It's so difficult to stop, though. And scrolling is so easy and addicting

short laurel
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I need Tokkies to move to bluesky

ashen charm
short laurel
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Taly got hacked?

ashen charm
wind monolith
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?

short laurel
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I have no idea.

ashen charm
red thorn
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An ig acc posted a selfie of her with dani and hanni

ashen charm
short laurel
ashen charm
short laurel
cerulean lake
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he’s too involved in the political sphere now

cerulean lake
ashen charm
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reddit is so filtered its like talking to a wall hanniconcerned

cerulean lake
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a whole cesspool of incels + extreme boy moms who like to trash other females + TAG PR bots

ashen charm
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welp were close to the second hearing i wasnt nervous but now im kinda am hanniface

copper jetty
frozen granite
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Taly got hacked ??

hoary frost
frozen granite
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I’m getting worried too

tawdry vessel
copper jetty
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Welp ok. 😥 my bad

fleet nebula
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Relax, deep breaths 🙂 focus on your life and the updates will come later

cinder narwhal
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fraudor in official petition
we made it 🥹

fleet nebula
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nice bnz 🙂

wind monolith
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this is good i hated it when we asked ppl to sign in the main chat were like oh this is not official whats the point, its not gonna help this and that

waxen musk
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~~https://m.entertain.naver.com/now/article/144/0001024685

The court will receive additional evidence and materials from both sides until the 14th, and will conclude the hearing and reach a conclusion on the 14th.
I was hoping to hear the results as soon as possible but I wasn't expecting it. It's kind of scary to think we'll know NJZ's future in just two days!~~
Check my next message.

waxen musk
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Running it through multiple translation services doesn't help, but if anyone can understand Korean and can confirm what it says, let me know:

재판부는 오는 14일까지 추가 증거와 자료를 양 측으로부터 받은 뒤 오는 14일 심문을 종결하고 결론을 내린다.

bronze talon
cinder narwhal
waxen musk
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After all the fighting online about this incident, people forget the simplicity of this.

bronze talon
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bruh that new sniper hate acc bought himself a blue mark
how stupid

frozen granite
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There’s a new sniper ??

jolly junco
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Sniper never die HanniLul

cerulean lake
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can’t tell if that’s supposed to be sarcastic or not 😭

cerulean lake
wind monolith
cerulean lake
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pissed off with the number of likes too. it’s giving that whole hate bully campaign towards garam where everyone was analyzing her tiny actions

wind monolith
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all these ppl give platforms to these type of accounts, and when we hit back with the same energy suddenly we r the bad ones and they r victims stupid fks

frozen granite
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I need njz to win like im serious

cerulean lake
frozen granite
wind monolith
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no thats someone else

cinder narwhal
wind monolith
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"They must not be confident in the potential outcome"🤡

short laurel
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Report n block. Account will die down then.

short laurel
cinder narwhal
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you know how long it took for og sniper to die

heady gate
frozen granite
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These accounts are super annoying.

cerulean lake
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is it already building a following

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need to mass report it once it’s still small

frozen granite
copper current
copper current
short laurel
frozen granite
cerulean lake
frozen granite
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Paying to spread hate is crazy work ngl like people actually do that???

short laurel
frozen granite
short laurel
cosmic belfry
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These people are just mentally unwell. Normal people do not spend their free time to hate on people they don't even know.

cerulean lake
frozen granite
cerulean lake
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it’s like they feel a dopamine rush when they do it so they thrive off of it

frozen granite
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I should be reading rn yall but this has me stressed NJZ BETTER WIN 😭

short laurel
frozen granite
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Oh ok I don’t have a twitter, but I trust yall to report it. Twitter is a cursed place since Elon bought it

short laurel
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That's why i m hoping for ppl to move over to either bluesky or mastodon or anything else. Ppl just not want to leave twt even after how many times it crashes

cerulean lake
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kpop twt has always been a mess but it’s gotten worse ever since elon took over and changed the restrictions

frozen granite
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I don’t even know what those are ?? Never heard of them 😟

short laurel
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Celebrities will c ppl moving n they'll move too.

short laurel
frozen granite
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Oh ok I’m looking into it rn .. do you have an account nami?

short laurel
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Yea but the concept of this type of app doesn't have privacy settings. So be careful what u post. Since it's meant to be decentralised. Look up fediverse

frozen granite
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I see, I will mostly likely stick to TikTok & ig until now until I see njz move to another platform. Is twt hate greater than twt support towards NJZ or no?

short laurel
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In pure numbers greater since we are small fandom in comparison against hybe stans.

cerulean lake
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when it’s the other way around, the antis usually are louder and unfortunately, with the misinfo coming from this injunction, the hate has been more easy to see

frozen granite
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Yeah this injunction really brought the worse of people, that’s why I believe that if the injunction is dismissed, the support for NJZ will be stronger

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Am I the only one who has been praying every day? Lol

frozen granite
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Not trying to be cringe, but I genuinely have been praying throughout the day

cerulean lake
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are they gonna make the discussion by 14th? i thought it would take a little more time after the last day for evidence submission

frozen granite
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I pray that the good always prevails

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They said they would post the results the same day so yes in two days we will know

cerulean lake
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I’m just too fed up with all this negativity and I can’t believe it’s actually taken a toll on my happiness (and probably the members’) since April of last year. Man i’m supposed to be enjoying new content and songs at this time 🤧

frozen granite
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I just hope that all HYBE’s dirty work really gets out there so people really see

heady gate
frozen granite
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I changed my name guys

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I didn’t want ADOR part of itHaerinSideEye

waxen musk
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New Coke song. NJZ just keeps on winning. Isn't that crazy.

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I know people aren't happy about Coke in general but I'll take it as a win.

frozen granite
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Why was the video set to private ?

waxen musk
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Not sure. Still on Billboard's Instagram. Billboard being the one to announce this is interesting.

cinder narwhal
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guys when's the flop era coming? HanniLul

waxen musk
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Maybe next year. HanniDevious

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I'm sure haters will still be waiting a year from now, and the year after that... and... tokkiCANT

tiny peak
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it's another creative win. I recommend watching the Japanese and Korean "I Feel Coke" commercials from the 80s on YouTube which inspired it

frozen granite
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Oh I also want NJZ to collab with Disney that would be cute

tiny peak
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NJZ creativity is just the best

waxen musk
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I dunno but this feels so meaningful to see, it's making me so happy.

red thorn
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Oh new coke collab is powered by billboard Korea huh
They chose NJ as their first cover too

short laurel
short laurel
frozen granite
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Yeah I get you, I guess the exposure would be nice especially with the lilo & stitch movie coming out it would be a cute collab

waxen musk
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Advertisers WANT to work with these girls. Ador stopping it is just insanity. I'm not going to assume that will happen, but we won't have to wait long to find out.

tiny peak
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I mean look at the results, every time they make an impact

red thorn
tiny peak
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this is why the original ADOR team is so important to their success. NJZ always produce highest quality experiences. A "Grammy award winning producer" can't recreate this

red thorn
short laurel
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Lets c if 5 organisation wants to piss of billboard

short laurel
tiny peak
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wow what are they cooking

frozen granite
waxen musk
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That's billboard billboard, not billboard korea, but yeah, for the CK stuff

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I saw your comment before you deleted it. It's just using the girls' names.

wind monolith
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i just opened this chat again is the new song with newjeans or njz

short laurel
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They didn't mention group name just girls name

tiny peak
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I think they just used MHDHH

waxen musk
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Like Calvin Klein (apart from the billboard link above which says NJZ)

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I still think that if NJZ are to persue the NewJeans IP rights, and if they plan on changing back to NewJeans in the future, any brands working with them might fear that uncertainty over what to call them, so using their names is probably the safest bet.

short laurel
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It's good that billboard using njz. Circle chart block them if they want. Would be funny seeing girls name on billboard n no where On circle. Biggest insult to circle

frozen granite
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But it says NJZ idols ?

short laurel
waxen musk
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I've yet to see an advertiser use NJZ, right? Am I forgetting something.

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To be fair NJZ was only announced barely more than a month ago, so it's unlikely big advertisements get made that quickly.

short laurel
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They will once girls win on 14th

waxen musk
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They will, yeah!

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Who have they not renewed with so far? Just Stonehenge is all I can remember at the moment, but there may be one more. But there's way more that are either continuing for now or seemingly renewed.

frozen granite
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I am so traumatized I don’t want to get ahead of myself but I will be praying & hopeful they’ll win I just don’t want to get let down 😭

short laurel
waxen musk
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Not long left to wait. Don't spend the days worrying now, cos it could still be good news.

frozen granite
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thank u ash

waxen musk
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As long as there's a strong potential for a good result, focus on that.
If things go bad, then that's when you can worry. HanniDevious

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Remember when we thought they were having a very long break in January?

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It was all based on assumptions. But seems they were working too.

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Who knows how many more surprises they've been cooking up basically since December. It's been 3.5 months. I was just thinking they were letting the "adults" sort out things and waiting around, managed to be able to record ONE song and practice choreo for that. That's all I imagined happened in those 3.5 months tbh.

stiff prairie
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what's good njz update chat?

wind monolith
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i wonder if ador knew about this

waxen musk
stiff prairie
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pposted on njz chat?

waxen musk
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ofc

frozen granite
kindred estuary
waxen musk
frozen granite
waxen musk
frozen granite
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Honestly this is confusing bc of the brands so we don’t really know how much ador has the obligation to post these too idk

ashen charm
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coke is still under ador i believe

frozen granite
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True

waxen musk
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I don't know how you can say that for certain

frozen granite
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Who me?

waxen musk
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Remember their Coke contract probably began March 2023 with the Zero song being like 1st April or something. It's 2 years later. Maybe the Ador contract ended. HanniShrug I don't think anybody actually knows. Just saying you can't be certain.

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All that matters for now is new song, and they're not linking it to NewJeans/ADOR.

cerulean lake
cinder narwhal
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coke is still probably under ador

ashen charm
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turn your old jeans into new ones aka new contract

frozen granite
waxen musk
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Anyway assumptions or not, even if Ador posts this on their socials, I don't think even that is proof of anything, as I explained above with the Chanel stuff. It's really hard to tell anything FOR SURE.

frozen granite
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HYBE gave me PTSD

kindred estuary
waxen musk
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The didn't ever post the new CK stuff on NJZ socials did they

frozen granite
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @talytokki <t:1741759742:d>

Ador filed an injunction to prevent NJZ from signing independent advertising contracts on Jan. 13, the same week NJZ were away filming their ad with Coke. This is how NJZ responded to the filing of the injunction 😭

cerulean lake
waxen musk
wind monolith
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how do we know it was filmed in the week of jan 13th

cerulean lake
weak relic
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ador mid
njz still partner with coca cola mashida

waxen musk
frozen granite
cinder narwhal
kindred estuary
narrow sealBOT
frozen granite
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Oh man

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At what time is the injunction ruling on the 14th??

waxen musk
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Who knows. By 5PM I would assume.

wind monolith
waxen musk
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Ah ok. Yeah seen even people translating Korean directly saying both things. Guess we'll have to wait for next week, most likely.

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The only HARD deadline is before 3 April, right?

ashen charm
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a rulling will de decided before march 23 i believe

waxen musk
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People only say that because of ComplexCon, but it's not a HARD deadline. Either way, it's very likely next week.

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I expected two weeks because of how previous injunctions went.

tardy smelt
# cerulean lake real bc everytime we celebrate something, another bad thing just comes not long ...

Y'all are not gonna be able to enjoy anything with this mindset. What's the point of worrying needlessly over what-ifs. Save the doom-posting for when something bad actually happens. It's not healthy to be letting K-Pop affect you this deeply. You should distract yourself with something else instead of engaging in something that's just giving you anxiety. I'm not telling you to be ignorant about the issues, I'm just saying put your mental health first.

This isn't directed at you. It's just the negativity I've been seeing in here over the past few days has been suffocating so I wanted to say something.

waxen musk
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Yeah it's been really negative in here especially. I've never been much of an optimist but even TWITTER was more overall postivie for me than here, somehow (I was avoiding all the haters, though). I think the big Tokki accounts are all being pretty optimistic, from what I've seen.

short laurel
waxen musk
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The only thing to truly worry about is the girls' and our mental health. But I think everything else is not "over" yet, so don't think it's already over before it is.

tardy smelt
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after a year of this, you've just got to roll with the punches at some point

frozen granite
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You guys are right, I think I’m going to call it a night. Thank yall for the kind words. Gn!

ashen charm
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okay so the new song is just a cover so im guessing ador isnt involved

cinder narwhal
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mods should lock this thread for mental health

waxen musk
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Not sure. Maybe. But tbh if people can't chat here they'll probably end up on Twitter or something and that might be worse for them.

upbeat stream
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As long as it's not toxic, I think it's ok to keep it open

tardy smelt
red thorn
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Where's the Hanni's preach during the bunnies anniversary live phoning (?)
Focus on your life first

stiff prairie
ashen charm
tawdry vessel
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suicide note would be just cursing hybe

stiff prairie
cerulean lake
# tardy smelt Y'all are not gonna be able to enjoy anything with this mindset. What's the poin...

Oh yes true true. Of course it’s very nerve-wrecking but trust, i’m not THAT THAT serious abt kpop to the point where i’ll be ultra depressed or smth 😭😭. I’ve been watching a bunch of other movies and stuff in the meantime 😮‍💨.

I think my venting here is probably more exaggerated bc i just hate the antis and it’s blocking my ability to use other platforms normally 😵‍💫. Can’t even watch tiktok edits peacefully without a hate vid/comments in the way 💔💔

waxen musk
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I've been in the same trap before where I express myself and people take it way more seriously than I intended. HanniDevious It's hard to convey emotions over the internet.

cerulean lake
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I dont blame them though. I’ve been doomposting bc that’s like a natural habit to me atp 😭😭

tawdry vessel
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both feelings are valid

kindred estuary
cinder narwhal
# kindred estuary https://fixupx.com/get_up_ASAP/status/1899733726772568086

250312 Atty. Lee Hyun-gon facebook post

오늘 팀버니즈를 대리하여 NJZ 멤버들과 어도어 사이의 가처분 사건에 탄원서와 의견서를 제출하였습니다.

좋은 결과가 나오리라 믿습니다.

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Today, on behalf of Team Bunnies, we submitted a petition and opinion statement regarding the

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i thought this lawyer was just an njz fan I didn't know they worked that closely with team bunnies

short laurel
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we thought the same

hoary frost
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Coke press release says NJZ, so why would that be under Ador when Ador explicitly said for advertisers to call them NewJeans. It’s a new contract

red thorn
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Huh really? I only see they call them by the members' name

hoary frost
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Press release

narrow sealBOT
cinder narwhal
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only thing I've seen is the billboard Korea post and it uses their names

glossy siren
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How do you feel about NJZ dropping the most gorgeous ad in ad history but...with that brand?

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I feel so splitted

storm warren
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coca cola mashita

weak relic
glossy siren
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At the time the contract was done before the conflict. Now it looks like a new one tho...it's an headache, the song and video are a work of art

storm warren
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it was filmed in january

glossy siren
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So?

storm warren
cinder narwhal
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I have no problems with it

glossy siren
cinder narwhal
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wdym why

upbeat stream
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I think awareness about it is fairly low in Korea. And aside from that, a beverage or fast food brand isn't really all that important. The focus should be on companies which are critical to security and defense, like hp, siemens etc

glossy siren
waxen musk
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||I do see a lot of haters saying "NJZionists" which is no surprise.
I'm conflicted on the issue because while the political situation is one of the most upsetting I've seen, I do not see much care to stop supporting brands outside of basically just very online Twitter people and not at all in real life. I also don't have a great sense of how much that company does to literally support Israel in any meaningful way, but the fact they do at all is reason enough for people to not support Coke, which I respect.||
I don't really think this should be discussed here but I'm welcome to learning more information in my DMs.

short laurel
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  1. very hypocritical of the haters especially when they are supporting hybe.
  2. ppl in korea n many other places around the world are not aware of the issue. Unfortunately that includes celebrities too. Everyone is busy dealing with a lot of mess too especially njz girls with hybe.
  3. It's mostly on the internet, very few places are actually girlcotting in reality, partly cuz of reason 2 n partly cuz of reason 1, hating for hate but not really caring about the issue irl.
storm warren
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lets not forget HYBE CEO who also directly donates to IDF

waxen musk
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Most big companies do or have done awful things throughout history, Coke included, even before the current political situations. It just feels impossible to avoid somehow unintentionally putting money into the hands these companies, when you might not even be aware of what they've done.

Anyway the reason I said probably shouldn't discuss this here is because the topic will eventually turn into talking about this exclusively with no mention of NJZ. HanniShrug (Me being the main one at fault lol)

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And yeah hypocrites everywhere all the time.

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I think people are also conflicted because this seems like a win for NJZ, but I've also seen some people hoping that maybe this was actually done with ADOR so they can blame them for renewing with a bad company. Maybe it was one of the girls' last obligations with ADOR in January. We don't actually know.

stone grotto
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All I can do is block twitter accounts that show any negativity toward the girls and not engage

storm warren
short laurel
storm warren
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no one is morally high or low bc they endorse coke. shit ton of brands idols endorse have shady involvements in politics

waxen musk
# storm warren Genuinely dumb. NJZ had Coke as product placement in How Sweet and How Sweet was...

I had not heard of this, it doesn't really make sense, it's an ad, they don't need to "earn" anything from it. I'll try to look for the article, I don't think I've seen it before.

We also don't know if it's a continuation of their contract until it concludes maybe in April, a renewal of their old contract, or a new contract under a different agency and no longer under NewJeans. We do not know much lol.

waxen musk
storm warren
frozen granite
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Good morning everyone how are you guys ?

short laurel
storm warren
glossy siren
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the point was about how here people were feeling about it, I don't see the reason to compare

fast snow
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I somehow stumbled into the kpop side of twitter and I see why some people would rather delete the app pure headache material

orchid field
frozen granite
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Free NJZ & let all the antis eat their words up !!! danipray

orchid field
harsh doveBOT
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:warning: Tweet with id 1899676734519468398 does not contain any media!

orchid field
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@short laurel are results tomorrow or no?

short laurel
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date of submission of additional evidence is 14th. we could get result that day or 1-2 week after that.

upbeat stream
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I doubt it would be the same day. In mhj's 2 injunction cases, it was a few days to a week from last day of evidence submission. I don't see how the court can analyze whatever evidence is submitted on the 14th and issue a verdict on the same day

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As I have said before 17-21 remains most likely

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가처분 어떻게 될것같느냐라는 DM을 많이 보내주셔서..
이래저래 단정하기는 어렵긴 해도 개인적으로는 기각으로 예상중입니다.

다른 이유들도 물론 있지만 가장 크게 댈 수 있는 이유로는 선행판례들이 있기 때문입니다.
물론 김앤장이 독보적인 이유로는 리딩케이스(최초판례 혹은 기존 판례를

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I hope this guy knows their shit and not just yapping tokkipray

orchid field
frozen granite
copper current
stone grotto
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Just saw theseoulite’s twitter got suspended. How sweet it tastes

storm warren
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i wonder if it is team bunnies' effort. felt like nothing could bring these accounts down

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even though new ones are popping up, i have no doubt they will be dealt with. make sure to send reports to Team Bunnies or jeanzpr

cerulean lake
cerulean lake
frozen granite
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Idk if I should say this bc I don’t want to get over myself, but I really have a good feeling about the results!!

hoary frost
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yea youtube is the toughest

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and the comments, are so misinformed, you'd swear they were AI bots

frozen granite
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I scrolled through seoulite’s ig & the interactions he gets are so low lmao

copper current
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I hope all NJZ Youtube Hater Channels are all gone, pray 🙏

kindred estuary
cinder narwhal
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I feel coke made no noise in Korea yesterday. understandable though with everything happening

frozen granite
copper current
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Tokki should take over this handle so this hater cannot come back

jolly junco
waxen musk
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NJZ posted the Coke ad to their Stories.

copper current
cinder narwhal
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ador reposted it too

waxen musk
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NJZ did it first.

cinder narwhal
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"too"

red thorn
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Billboard korea did it first

frozen granite
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Lmao they are fighting

waxen musk
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I said before that I suspect ADOR keeps posting content to keep up appearances wether they were involved or not.

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The question is, would ADOR have posted anything if NJZ didn't.