NJZ Updates and Discussion

[short laurel]

Nothing. Ignore me

[glossy siren]

Hey guys, does somebody know the time for this afternoon second round in court? Mhj vs belift

[cinder narwhal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948917817724514325/1347452642825080843/IMG_0609.png?ex=67cbe090&is=67ca8f10&hm=356dd5e20efdc09a681e64df3be49b2608c52bcd43e1331c121aeab49b1fe0f9&

[sage venture]

yep, it's just amazing They're doing the same shit even in court

[waxen musk]

Dunno but it's already 3:17PM there so there's not much time left in the working day.
Oh but for the first part of this, we weren't even aware it was happening. Today is the second part.

[hollow adder]

i opened ig to see that story and shivers ran down my spine i felt hanni's aura

[shut kelp]

im pretty sure shes talking about the vid released and the text msgs that was presented in court

[tardy smelt]

Hanni about to drop a bombshell towards HYBE at 8pm (part of the comeback teaser saga, trust)

[short laurel]

If there's no mediaplay then it's going against bethief i believe

[waxen musk]

I assume that is what she's talking about, I just don't know who she's speaking to.

[glossy siren]

Maybe it has already started but online communities are focused in njz, idk. I really want to know about it, min heejin never fails to bring lots of evidence

[jolly junco]

she is here

[half knot]

hahahaha

[waxen musk]

Again, the first part was not reported on at all. Maybe this is also not going to be reported on.

[shut kelp]

what are knetz saying about the situation?

[glossy siren]

Actually some parts were disclosed

[waxen musk]

I forgot. Can you remind me.

[upbeat stream]

It's the shareholders lawsuit that was not reported

[glossy siren]

Super general out of memory, Belift pretty much said that even if they copied, saying it aloud damaged illit

[tardy smelt]

which one is this one coming up? is it the continuation of the one where MHJ submitted 1k pages? if it is, i hope we hear something from those pages.

[glossy siren]

I remember that their stance was absurd

[glossy siren]

Hope so

[upbeat stream]

Knetz are as pro-njz as we are, so you don't have to worry about them

[half knot]

it sounds absurd, but unfortunately valid under south korean libel laws

[opaque torrent]

ah @stiff prairie i think if ador wants to counter newjeans' claims, they would have to explain why the remembrance ribbons weren't provided to them like they were provided for illit and lsfm

[shut kelp]

i think they'll bring it up in the next one i assume?

hanni did say she held back

[waxen musk]

Thanks that jogged my memory. I don't trust my memory in general.

[short laurel]

N mhj did her duty by calling it out to protect ador's brand. Even if she lose this one, she'll get ammo for shareholder suit

[stiff prairie]

oh yeah. good point

[waxen musk]

Btw is there a "next one" (injunction) or is it just that evidence will be submitted to the judge (by the 14th) to review and then a result will come soon after?

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/nwjns1st/status/1897869676014608797

[harsh dove]

@nwjns1st <t:1741322366:d>

🚨 COMMUNITY NOTE 🚨

armys are once again spreading lies, as ador & hybe want them to.
rate these community notes as helpful choosing 2-3 categories. do this from ALL your accounts. tell ur moots to do the same.

reply done ✅ when finished.

🔗: https://x.com/i/birdwatch/t/1897848702565327215?source=6

[opaque torrent]

i think this is the best we're going to get from this incident. i dont think the girls expected ador/hybe to go as low as try to take advantage of a tragedy to stir up controversy so they wouldnt have prepare for it, like a recording or something

[stiff prairie]

first 2 notes as helpful 3rd one as not helpful. get to work

[glossy siren]

She has to win everything, she deserves a reputation-revenge arc 🔥

[short laurel]

Hopefully

[shut kelp]

i mean the way they came out that court room theyre definitely confident imo

[opaque torrent]

yes. but they have more reasons to be confident than just this ribbon incident.

i think for this specific injunction, even without evidence, it has a high chance of getting dismissed. you cannot bar someone from earning a living

[waxen musk]

The CCTV footage has been slowed down. It's the 8 seconds that Hanni observed previously.

[jolly junco]

i havent went to church for the past 10 years, i'll go just this once to pray for their war against HYBE and ADOR

dont worry hanni i'll pour all my heart for this pray for you guys

[upbeat stream]

I doubt there will be any more hearings. Court has asked to submit additional evidence till the 14th and will rule by the 23rd

[shut kelp]

ah my fault i thought there was another one im prob thinking of the other dates

[waxen musk]

The 23rd is assumption by you. I haven't seen it written anywhere.

[upbeat stream]

Reasonable according to me, but yeah

[waxen musk]

Reasonable or not, it's an assumption.

[short laurel]

Usually 1 week after evidence submitting date for what i heard

[sage venture]

anyone got link where the entire Hanni's text message conversation has been translated?

[stiff prairie]

*x https://x.com/terrariuh/status/1897857533282324749

[harsh dove]

@terrariuh <t:1741319471:d>

[glossy siren]

*x https://x.com/Novhara2207/status/1897897846545768933?t=Trkrjf1yvpK84CrIiVUDRw&s=19

[harsh dove]

@Novhara2207 <t:1741329082:d>

[tardy smelt]

bracing myself for the essay Hanni's cooking up rn

[stiff prairie]

this vid is the only silver lining for me tbh

[shut kelp]

exactly 😂

[waxen musk]

I only just searched up the context of that Nicole Kidman photo.

I've seen it my whole life but never knew. 💀

[jolly junco]

i'm pretty sure something will come out today with the way hanni crashing out on IG

[short laurel]

https://x.com/annoying_tokki/status/1897882438208295100

mmmm💙🩷💛💚💜 (@annoying_tokki) on X

@juantokki do u guys see even though its not that moment cause dani is here ,
that grp. manager ignored hanni dani their manager completely while nj manger greeted all illit girls .
and all of them greeted to illit manager but she passed without greeting anyone.

X · Mar 7, 2025, 5:30 AM

[waxen musk]

Yeah with her spelling and grammar mistakes it sounds like it was written a bit hastily. But if she has something more to say, I'm all ears.

[steep torrent]

so confused
https://x.com/minos_alt/status/1897898607090749641?s=46

Mino Two (@minos_alt) on X

Mino here, everyone is wrong about the kakaotalk Those messages (partial) was presented by NJZ's legal team to show that it DID HAPPEN unlike what Hybe-Ador originally said. Hybe-ADOR is clearly mediaplaying that the word "ignore her" wasn't used . In fact Hanni clearly says

X · Mar 7, 2025, 6:34 AM

[waxen musk]

Wait, I didn't even focus on the manager properly, but even here the manager isn't bowing, right?

[upbeat stream]

What?

[upbeat stream]

I'm confused now

[wind monolith]

finally im untimed out

[waxen musk]

Why can't the world just speak the same language and even if we did we can all express outselves perfectly.

[steep torrent]

im just gonna wait for the results

[stiff prairie]

What did you do lol

[waxen musk]

You were not timed out for your last message were you? If so, what the hell.

[wind monolith]

the dude who got banned, i was gonna crash out on him but the automod caught a word that i was not suppose to say

[waxen musk]

Oh it was automod. Fair enough.

[hot girder]

So that's what hanni meant in her new ig story, that hybe and ador are twisting her words

[short laurel]

language is complicated. even if 2 people speak same language with perfect grammar, meaning convey can differ depending on persons mood attitue and so.

[cerulean lake]

i’m just gonna avoid twt and tiktok in the meantime 😭

[short laurel]

u only wanna have 1 social media for kpop. for the sake of your own sanity.

[waxen musk]

Is this the only person say this so far? Just one random person that we are meant to trust? What did the summaries from Korean outlets say earlier?

Oh wait is it that person who got their account mysteriously suspended the other day? That person had good Tweets.

[steep torrent]

I think but idk where hes getting that from

[stiff prairie]

Army tweets are getting super high likes. Same as mhj first presscon with all mistranslations and lies. Bad in case of intl k-pop community not necessarily court ruling.

[waxen musk]

I'm glad I'm not seeing them but I'm never surprised. What's new?

[short laurel]

intl kpop community knows that army = lies. so dw

[waxen musk]

Tweet is gone.

[short laurel]

yea deleted so it's fake.

since it says deleted by author.

[steep torrent]

happens so much I dont consider a lot of likes until it reaches like 30-40k

[kindred estuary]

https://x.com/minos_alt/status/1897902051038052449

Mino Two (@minos_alt) on X

I'm afraid this accounts going to be deleted again pretty soon cause someone tries to keep logging in real time. This was also not a hit piece on ILL** or LSF. These articles that are coming out did not have to come out like this right away but k journalists are all fucked up

X · Mar 7, 2025, 6:48 AM

[steep torrent]

everything under that is all armies and hybe stans

[kindred estuary]

https://x.com/minos_alt/status/1897901271689859149

Mino Two (@minos_alt) on X

I am being targeted again, so heres whats really important

THAT FOOTAGE IS NOT THE FOOTAGE THAT NJZ WAS TALKING ABOUT.

X · Mar 7, 2025, 6:44 AM

[wind monolith]

ya mino main was taken down by armys

[opaque torrent]

lol mino needs 2FA security. i've been indirectly talking shit about fearnots for 3 years and nothing hashappened to me

[short laurel]

i need source for this accounts initial claim.

[opaque torrent]

i even called for an army to be guillotined

[jolly junco]

[stiff prairie]

it might ngl. armies are too pro in fanwars compared to bunnies

[waxen musk]

Is this account posting things only to then delete them immediately? Weird way of going about it.

[jolly junco]

you're late

[waxen musk]

And account is gone...

[hot girder]

fuck my stupid chungus life

[jolly junco]

[hot girder]

I think it's better if they just stay quiet until we get the results...

[jolly junco]

na ah, she needs to speak out

[hot girder]

Getting things messier will only benefit hybe

[grizzled summit]

hiii u guys what happened to the court injunction

[opaque torrent]

yeah its a not of bots and manufactured support. if they had any real power, they'd be able to stop blackpink and stray kids' rise lol

[stiff prairie]

njz pr needs to make a statement. lots of ppl are falling for hybe pr on the cctv footage and not enough attention on the ribbon incident

[half knot]

did you see hybe's statement on the ribbons

[grizzled summit]

you havent seen twitter bunnies

[short laurel]

share extra

[opaque torrent]

armys are just overinflated egos and delusions of grandeur

[grizzled summit]

what ribbons you guys are talkinga bout

[red thorn]

You were there Haerin-ssi

[opaque torrent]

did they confirmed they did it but try to spin it haha?

[stiff prairie]

that jp boradcast station would be flooded with questions so they wanted to protect them?

[grizzled summit]

ik but do you think cats remember

[half knot]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/609/0000961004

this is such deep corporate speech it's actually hilarious

[short laurel]

hybe told NJ to not wear ribbon in japan new year fest. all other hybe groups wore it. nj had to make their own when they saw that. ribbons were for jeju crash incident.

[half knot]

ador lawyers must have been caught by surprise in court by this otherwise this would have been presented in court

[grizzled summit]

oh its that one

[midnight zodiac]

ngl i expected this response

[grizzled summit]

when will the court result be announced

[stiff prairie]

additional evidences on 12th so after that

[opaque torrent]

ah they tried to spin it into he said she said

[half knot]

it's such corporate bullshit 😄

[waxen musk]

I just want evidence.

[opaque torrent]

they need to prove that they provided them ribbons

[kindred estuary]

and the statement came from hybe i thought fraudor was the one with the injuction case?

[half knot]

and once again using the hybe labels system separation to their advantage to create responsibility distance and plausible deniability

[grizzled summit]

so they expanded the date again?

[craggy skiff]

here is problem. that why I that will be good if they got evidence that hybe ask them to not wear ribbon.
But because the girl bring this up so I hope they really have something already

[opaque torrent]

njz is probably waiting for hybe's statement on this
then they will make one to overshadow it lol

[stiff prairie]

yeah

[grizzled summit]

why is the ribbon topic so hot right now did hybe say that in court

[cosmic belfry]

Why would Hanni make the ribbons in the first place if there was not an issue and were provided it.

[midnight zodiac]

hybe trying to say they wanted to be different so they let them

[grizzled summit]

WHY IS A STUPID RIBBON SO IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME

[cosmic belfry]

The ribbon topic is hot because it looks like ADOR set them up to not wear the ribbons on stage when the other HYBE groups had them.

[waxen musk]

Without evidence, you're just going to have each side believe the side they're supporting. Waste of time.

[half knot]

to be fair if I was NJZ and hybe staff offered a ribbon, I'd avoid it too, you never know if it was laced with anthrax or some neurotoxin

[craggy skiff]

well... it is hard to confirm by court without evidence,

[grizzled summit]

what on earth is wrong with that honestly

[sage venture]

Jeez I translated Hanni's conversation (1/2)

Hanni: I was just... in the 4th-floor hallway, practicing the dance, and you know the elevator room!

Three of the ILLIT members and one of the managers came out, and I greeted them as usual!!
The four of them went into the styling room, and I just stayed in the hallway!!
It was almost time to depart, so
But after about... 5-10 minutes??..

The four of them came out of the styling room again, and I heard the sound of the door opening. After that, I heard that manager telling me to just ignore it and walk past like nothing happened.

I don't remember the exact words, but it was something like that.
So, as I was walking past, that manager didn’t even look at me, and one member just kept looking at the manager and said, "Yes, yes!... I’ll just act like I didn’t see it," or something along those lines.

MHJ: "Ignore it?"

Hanni: Just... we didn't really need to do that among ourselves, but when the manager said that, it felt a bit off personally.

MHJ: Did they say it loud enough for you to hear? Did everyone ignore you?

Hanni: Yes... I heard the door open, and then I heard that being said.

[half knot]

if they are powerpoint presenting this in court, there HAS to be documents backing their claims, communication proof of some kind

[short laurel]

that's why i said NJZ should've secretly recorded every interaction they had with ador/hybe after they terminated their contract.

[lucid yarrow]

more hybe sabotage i really hate them

[sage venture]

here's second part (2/2)

MHJ: So all the ILLIT members ignored you?
You greeted them, right?
Did the manager tell them not to respond to your greeting?

Hanni: One member kind of awkwardly greeted me and avoided my gaze, and the last member did greet me, but it felt like they were really cautious about it. ㅜ
I’m not sure... (Response to: Did the manager tell them not to respond to your greeting?)
I did greet them!! I did!!

It’s just... we didn’t really need to do that among ourselves.

Hanni: see I totally understand why the girls would be uncomfortable and awkaward when they see us because there's been so much rivalry between our team in the media and inside the company so i fully get that (written in english)
Honestly, it wasn’t so much that it was uncomfortable, but more... to be honest, it was funny.
It really made me realize once again that we’re working with such great people.
I honestly don’t care about those people at all, so you don’t have to worry about that.

[waxen musk]

Where is this from b m1lo?

[midnight zodiac]

i'm hoping they do have proof and they were waiting for hybe statement so they can easily refute like we got evidence

[sage venture]

that's from Sejong's ppt someone took a photo

[waxen musk]

Can you post that too?

[steep torrent]

this

[sage venture]

I did

[waxen musk]

Thanks! Sorry I see Korean-only KKT messages and just skip past them tbh.

[half knot]

I think they mean the actual powerpoint slide

[grizzled summit]

but does njz have evidence of what they said till now

[half knot]

because this doesn't have the english parts

[waxen musk]

Wow that deleted account was right, this would have been presented by NJZ's side and isn't an issue like we were discussing earlier.

[steep torrent]

https://x.com/nwjns1st/status/1897904152358932974?s=46

۟ (@nwjns1st) on X

the person who first posted & spread the messages between mhj & hanni shown at court deleted their posts. this means it‘s manipulated & they’re making themselves liable for criminal defamation charges. same game as the first time. we know how it plays out

X · Mar 7, 2025, 6:56 AM

[opaque torrent]

source for these materials?

[steep torrent]

was it a person or an article?? so lost

[sage venture]

I saw it from K community and pretty sure they took a photo from ppt

[opaque torrent]

https://x.com/minos_alt/status/1897906580731097499

Mino Two (@minos_alt) on X

HYBE also just lied.

They claim from their post that the reason why they stopped the ribbons was cause they didn't know the stance of japanese broadcasts and thought there would be in need of a discussion

X · Mar 7, 2025, 7:06 AM

[waxen musk]

Do you know if the context for "people" in the second from last sentance and the last sentance is the same? Because they're one after another, it sounds like the same context but I can't imagine it is as it wouldn't make sense.

[cerulean lake]

the ribbon means a lot in korea

[short laurel]

https://x.com/minos_alt/status/1897906582887035150

Mino Two (@minos_alt) on X

But in front of the judge they said that they were afraid of a backlash from japanese fans. They clearly implied to the judge that the reason why they stopped NJZ from ribbons is to PROTECT THEM from potential backlash fans YET right now they just changed their stance.

X · Mar 7, 2025, 7:06 AM

[opaque torrent]

hybe's statement to the media is diff than the one in court... nice. please release your statement soon njzpr

[jolly junco]

they never disappoint

[waxen musk]

Oh nice that account is back. This account knows the shit!

[cerulean lake]

wait if they were afraid of backlash from japanese fans, why did they give it to their other groups? that literally makes no sense

[sage venture]

can you make it clearly? I don't undertand what part are you talking about

[jolly junco]

someone who watched the whole court proceeding must be leaking the truth to the public

[short laurel]

hybe sharing 2 different statement in court and media should cause the case to go against them in court right ?

[grizzled summit]

okay suree

but what did hybe say tho

[waxen musk]

This:

It really made me realize once again that we’re working with such great people.
And this:
I honestly don’t care about those people at all, so you don’t have to worry about that.
Is Hanni talking about the same "people"? Or has the context of "people" changed and is lost in translation?

[cinder verge]

wtf is this bs WHEN DID HANNI SAY THIS

[hoary frost]

Guys what happened to NJZ

[opaque torrent]

never that's machine translated

[cerulean lake]

idk if this was meant to be sarcastic but it really does

idk that’s why we’re discussing it bc if hybe did want to prevent them from wearing it, it’s literally them wanting nwjns to get major backlash

[cinder verge]

ppl just be making up shi

[hoary frost]

Oh

[sage venture]

That's from this part

Hanni: see I totally understand why the girls would be uncomfortable and awkaward when they see us because there's been so much rivalry between our team in the media and inside the company so i fully get that (written in english)
Honestly, it wasn’t so much that it was uncomfortable, but more... to be honest, it was funny.
It really made me realize once again that we’re working with such great people.
I honestly don’t care about those people at all, so you don’t have to worry about that.

It's not nothing It's Hanni trying not to make a big deal out of it even if she's a victim

[grizzled summit]

i didnt mean it sarcastically-

[cinder narwhal]

where are the slides available in full?

[cinder verge]

wait when did she say this stuff

[cerulean lake]

oop sorry then can’t really distinguish tone through text

[cinder narwhal]

what you translated aren't all in the ss you sent earlier

[waxen musk]

I'm just confused about what "people" she's referring to tbh. Seems to change per sentence.

[sage venture]

This is the conversation between Hanni and MHJ when the incident happened

[opaque torrent]

the great people are obviously OG ador and the people she doesn't care about are belift/hybe

[stiff prairie]

can sb send the og screenshots. the ss i saw has barely few texts and no mention of the things hybe stans are pointing out. and which ones got deleted by OP? hanni saying she finds it funny or smth else?

[tiny peak]

"it was funny" isn't literally funny

[steep torrent]

waiittt whattt im so confused man. they are not the same day?
https://theqoo.net/square/3638455275

unless that footage was just them trying their clothes on maybe idek?

[waxen musk]

Yeah so "people" changed from one sentence to the next? Thought so, but you understand why I was confused.

[grizzled summit]

but u guys i think njz might actually win the contract termination validitity on april 2

1. parts of the girls' contract with ador was leaked during the injunction in may last year and the girls have a right to give a 14 day grace period to ador for any breach or violation of the contract and they can easily terminate it without paying the fees.
2. the girls' privatei nfo like their health documents, trainee videos and stuff was leaked and thats a huge breach of contract by hybe
3. and didnt hybe plan to sabotage njz from the start from their leaked audit info? didnt they want to get rid of njz then why are they trying so hard now
4. and btw armies and hybe stans acting like they know njz's contract is so funny help 💀

[waxen musk]

Funny as in odd, not hilarious.

[sage venture]

Now I get it

It really made me realize once again that we’re working with such great people.
I honestly don’t care about those people at all, so you don’t have to worry about that.

the first one is ADOR OG team and the second one is of course the person who said 'ignore them'

[opaque torrent]

i also dont see mhj escalating anything.

[sonic olive]

This just a chaos

[craggy skiff]

why are you suprised? hanni said very clear that she was alone then.
hybe give a cgtv with dani is ridiculous 🤡

[sage venture]

yep see the full conversation and you know why HYBE trying to spin it

[waxen musk]

I can see very clearly, it's fucked.

[grizzled summit]

wow i am getting ignored bye 🙃

[cerulean lake]

man props to them if i was them i would be going up to bsh’s office and egging him

[waxen musk]

You expect people to address that in 2 minutes when we're on another topic and we have a cooldown?

[cerulean lake]

just a lot of ppl talking and there’s a timer to write. trust it’s not on purpose

[stiff prairie]

i agreed with you internally don't crash out lmao

[opaque torrent]

can you give me the original screenshots or the community you found them at so i can post them on my account?

[grizzled summit]

take a chill pill hun

[neon igloo]

Honestly, we didn't see anything new. HYBE is trying to play the media game as usual. So we need to react less to this and focus on the girls' comeback

[sage venture]

https://theqoo.net/hot/3638404378

[waxen musk]

Where are there only two pages of texts? Where's the rest that you translated?

[stiff prairie]

njz pr post is a must is all i can see. lotsa things to clear up. maybe they're waiting for hybe to do more mediaplay and respond to everything together

[short laurel]

i can c clear info coming out tomorrow.

[sage venture]

https://theqoo.net/hot/3638440517

[cerulean lake]

wait r they allowed to discuss that info even tho it’s from the court tho

[waxen musk]

! Here it is kitschy

[short laurel]

it's civil case. so i think so

[half knot]

you can do what you want unless the judge explicitly prohibits certain things
just that usually lawyers advise their clients not to do that...

[sage venture]

I also typed in Korean text too if you need

Hanni:그냥... 4층 복도에 나와 있었고 춤을 따고ㅠ있었는데 엘베 방 있잖아요!

거기에 아일릿 멤버들 3분이랑 매니저님 한 분 나오셔서 저 원래대로 인사했고요!!
4분이 스타일링 방으로 들어가셨고 저는 이제 그냥 계속 복도에 있었어요!!
곧 출발 시간이였기 때문에
근데 한... 5-10분뒤인가??..

4분이 다시 스타일링방에서 나왔는데 문 여는 소리 들렸고 그 다음에 그 쪽 매니저님이
그냥 모르는척 하고 지나가라는 말하신걸 들었어요

정확히 그 단어들이었는지 기억은 없고 그냥 대충 그런 말이었어요
그래서 저 지나가면서 그매니저님 저 아예 안쳐다보셨고 한 멤버는 그냥 그매니저님 향해 계속 보면서 네네!... 그냥 모르는척 할게요 약간 그런말 했던것같고

MHJ: '무시해' 이거?

Hanni: 그냥... 굳이 저희끼리 그렇게 할 필요 없는데

뭔가 매니저님이 그런 말 하시니까 좀 그랬어요 개인적으로

MHJ: 들리게 말했고
모두가 너를 무시한거니?

Hanni: 네... 문 여는 소리 듣고 나오면서 그 말씀을 하셨어요

MHJ: 아일릿 멤버 모두가 너를 무시했어?
너는 인사했는데?
니 인사받지말라고 매니저가 시킨거?

Hanni: 한명은 약간 애매하게 인사 하면서 제 눈 피했고 마지막 한명은 인사했는데 되게 눈치 보는 느낌이었어요 ㅜ
잘 모르겠어요 (Response to:니 인사받지말라고 매니저가 시킨거?)
저는 했어요!! 했죠!!
그냥..... 굳이 저희끼리 그렇게 할 필요 없는데

Hanni: 있어서(?) 기분 나쁜것보다 약간... 솔직히 말해서 웃겼어요
아 우리가 정말 좋은 분들이랑 일하고 있구나 한번더 느꼈죠
전 정말 하나도 그분들을 신경 안쓰고 있어서
그거에 대한 걱정하고 계시면 안하셔도 돼요

[opaque torrent]

the ribbon is important because its a commemorative ribbon of the airplane crash that killed 175 people. korea had a week long mourning period, which meant no entertainment activities or anything new release, but some groups had prior schedules they needed to fulfill overseas.

hybe was going to sabotage newjeans by giving illit and lsfm commemorative ribbons to wear during their performances, but, in contrast, told newjeans that the japanese broadcasters prohibited them. hybe was allegedly planning to manufacture an online controversy pointing out that the victims of the crash were on illit/lsfm's minds but not newjeans'

[half knot]

thank you ❤️

[waxen musk]

Which itself is messed up that Hybe was even plotting this all in the wake of that tragedy.

[opaque torrent]

thank you so much

[sage venture]

oops I forgot to add the part written in english which will be place on top of last paragraph

Hanni: see I totally understand why the girls would be uncomfortable and awkaward when they see us because there's been so much rivalry between our team in the media and inside the company so i fully get that (written in english)

[short laurel]

now i wish we all noticed the ribbon bit late and let the mediaplay come out that day. would've been nice to c the news contradicting the facts.

[cinder narwhal]

OH MY GOD

[hoary frost]

This is the footage?

[opaque torrent]

yeah that fandom is fully of rotting brains dont bother

[steep torrent]

parkistp

[short laurel]

again remember what hanni initially said. members did greet each other. what hanni said was it was their manager telling them to ignore her.

[sage venture]

and yet they're showing that videos Explains a lot

[hoary frost]

I’m not saying anything !!

[stable escarp]

The fact that the manager ignored Dani in that clip lol

[waxen musk]

I'm glad this is all public and we CAN see the truth. It's just some people choose not to.

[hoary frost]

So that was dani in the footage then

[short laurel]

yeaillit manager left without bowing. yea

[lucid yarrow]

is this cctv footage same as old one?

[midnight zodiac]

there's an old one?

[short laurel]

same one. there's only this one footage released

[grizzled summit]

um u guys hybe released the cctv footage but isnt that danielle and not hanni

[midnight zodiac]

lol hanni in the back

[short laurel]

exactly.

[grizzled summit]

she isnt in the video

[cinder narwhal]

there are names in the video

[waxen musk]

No crime of perjury during this injunction is so messed up because anyone can say any old bullshit but the importance and impact of a winning result for Ador is so large.

[grizzled summit]

and the audacity for glitz/armies to say that bunnies are rewriting their stories cuz they're losing omg lol

[tardy smelt]

look for the bob, in the back, on the right

[sage venture]

that's the point they're showing some random video where ILLIT members bowing

[half knot]

as I said here...

[grizzled summit]

ohhh

[cinder narwhal]

this conveniently cut out the first frame https://fixupx.com/TokkiLoops/status/1897871205325279473

[grizzled summit]

so are we gonna forget the fact that it could be a different date

[waxen musk]

Learn their names in Hangul

[cerulean lake]

they should bring up the discrepancies between her details and the date of the vid

[midnight zodiac]

hybe just likes to media play and confuse people

[cerulean lake]

can hanni submit her evidence of the security deleting the stuff. she shouldn’t hold back anymore 😭 so tired of ador/hybe

[waxen musk]

Learning Hangul is really useful when the words they use sound the same as English words, just written in Hangul
"ILLIT Manager" literally

[half knot]

also that female manager up front ignores everybody as she walks in, not even a nod

ignores manager near hanni, ignores hanni, ignores danielle...

[grizzled summit]

ikr.

can't the girls literally file perjury against the conglomerates they have literally done so much until now lying in the court!!

[runic granite]

why would hanni hold back? its now or never.. the courtroom is the only place to unveil the truth

[kindred estuary]

https://x.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1897912443537703390

Sheepymcsheep (@sheepymcsheepy) on X

Proof that Hybe/Fraudor released cctv footage of a different date compared to Hanni's claim

https://t.co/lVby6B5EWd

X · Mar 7, 2025, 7:29 AM

[stable escarp]

oh no! its not like she did that to herself or anything 💀

[grizzled summit]

im pretty sure she's taking the hybe mediaplay into account that her story will get changed

[waxen musk]

Why did they take a camera recording of a screen, surely the date is embedded into the security footage that is conveniently cut off from what we can see?

[midnight zodiac]

lol so we get proof managers are ignoring hanni and dani instead

[cerulean lake]

yeah i think she should just say whatever she wants to say bc i feel like this injunction is more important for now

[short laurel]

to submit in court for next hearing.

[cerulean lake]

that’s true but it was gonna happen regardless

[grizzled summit]

yeah but im so sick of all the armies hating on the girls and sexualising them so much i hate them why cant they go back to their daddy bang

[sage venture]

because the hearing is scheduled for a short amount of time and this lawsuit shouldn't turn into a he-said/she-said case Hanni will submit the docs later if she wants

[grizzled summit]

and the fact that armies act like they are professional and qualified lawyers thinking they know the whole story

[cerulean lake]

that’s their hobbies atp. i used to think blinks were mean but lowkey they justified with how armys bash bp. this whole drama just made me develop an ick

[short laurel]

she knows alot more than us cuz she is directly involved.

[grizzled summit]

can u believe blinks are supporting njz like crazy

[rain spade]

Man, wish hanni said everything in.

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/minos_alt/status/1897911205337223253
So is what mino saying is that even the reporters inside the court today can't be trusted because they only report partially what was submitted to make things look a certain way?

Mino Two (@minos_alt) on X

RECAP

1. The ktalk messages were provided by NJZ's team to show that the incident did happen, Hybe-Adors journalist only posted a partial of the message to hurt the girls and use ILL** as weapons.

2. Hybe lied about why NJZ wasn't allowed to wear Ribbons. They told the judge

X · Mar 7, 2025, 7:24 AM

[midnight zodiac]

i feel like it's more like she wasn't going to share it to the public but since they started this she's fighting back

[grizzled summit]

and the kakotalk chat is literally edited

[jolly junco]

hanni meant well, she didnt want to say more of this incident because she knows the backlash that illit member will get because of this

[orchid field]

whats the source for this i wanna read the whole transcript

[cerulean lake]

welp i hope she submits all her evidence by the 12th. cant believe ppl are using this as proof that hanni is mean or some shit

[waxen musk]

I've seen 12th and 14th used interchangeably. What is it?

[sage venture]

anyone surprised by how HYBE has been manipulating the text messages through selective editing?

[grizzled summit]

and everyone's saying hanni said 'i dont care' but where did she say that

[cerulean lake]

well the day to submit more evidence. could be the 12th or 14th but i saw 12th last

[grizzled summit]

i mean we know from the whole 'min hee jin shaman' talks

[cinder narwhal]

what the caption

[sage venture]

is this movie? lol

[craggy skiff]

pretend i'm surprised

[cinder narwhal]

new info. too long to translate it https://n.news.naver.com/article/366/0001059144?sid=101

[cerulean lake]

ngl idek why armys were so mad at that bc even if she did talk to a shaman, she just asked when they were going to the military so she could promote nwjns during that time 😭😭

that’s not even bad bc who wants to promote during the same time as bts when you’re just gonna get overshadowed

[waxen musk]

What fantasy are they living in. This was live streamed and no such thing happened.

[midnight zodiac]

can i get a tldr?

[short laurel]

literally all of the people behind everything in NJ were hiered by MHJ.

[grizzled summit]

so wait gasp are they...THREATENED

[craggy skiff]

Jang Woo-jeong? sound familiar. one of hybe friend?

[grizzled summit]

the girls can also sue hybe since they were planning to send them on a 1 year vacation and hire them a 'grammy producer'

the fact that ador said min hee jin insisted on the 'bts's little sister' title when ador was the one who kept paying articles to write on these stuff

[sage venture]

a weekly report sent by the chairman, and the only one who opens it is MHJ? what a believable story, lol

[grizzled summit]

you know what you guys lets just wait till the 12th

[weak relic]

*tt https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSMCwaqyA/
mid company made our swag girl cried

[harsh dove]

@daerizz

[waxen musk]

Oh god now the reason BSH was in the US for so long was to partially look for a producer for NewJeans.

[jolly junco]

what a load of BS

[short laurel]

his reason for going to US was kateyes and vacation.

[grizzled summit]

and burgers 🍔

[stable escarp]

LOTS of burgers

[short laurel]

i think he didn't eat much since he got thinner

[sage venture]

LOL someone who doesn’t even return a greeting is trying to say what?

[stable escarp]

The MHJ stress got to him

[grizzled summit]

yuh

[short laurel]

if bsh was serious about looking for producer for girls. there wouldn't have been so much mediaplay against members

[orchid field]

ozempic 1000000000000000000000% on my life

[half knot]

I thought he was face blind and didn't even know the newjeans members

but he wanted to introduce an american producer (to produce more americanpop slop) for newjeans??

[short laurel]

he is face blind to his companies artists but not face blind to that juice girl

[waxen musk]

Apparently MHJ vs Belift part 2 has ended and to expect part 3 on May 2.

[midnight zodiac]

anything new for that?

[cerulean lake]

https://tenor.com/view/bang-si-hyuk-bang-pd-steiieum-gif-4852536613388710193

[waxen musk]

Only Twitter talk. Looking for sources.

[red thorn]

They chose "the hero that gonna saves the day" bsh pic

[cerulean lake]

he’s trying to scout an american producer

[jade jolt]

Ozempic

[stable escarp]

MHJ edited the report?? They didnt even deny the report before tho

[grizzled summit]

im gonna actually cry seeing all the shitty comments about hte girls on these channels 😢

[cerulean lake]

more like their success was from the og ador team. if i recall, hybe didn’t even like attention and hype boy 🧐

[grizzled summit]

yuh suddenly they said 'we invested 15m dollars in Newjeans and we deserve them now since they are gonna leave and we are gonna get bankrupt!'

[cerulean lake]

bro just ignore and block them. learned from it during last year. it’ll only get worse from here unless some major revelation comes out and nwjns wins.

[grizzled summit]

yeah

the girls should also sue xiwang kpop tea, the kpop spy, seoulite tv and many more

[short laurel]

teambunnies probably already did so

[waxen musk]

Even if perjury isn't a crime in an injunction hearing, surely by the time more evidence is submitted next week, the judge will see things like lies about what this CCTV footage is.

[opaque torrent]

do you have screensshot of this part? its not included in that theqoo link

[stable escarp]

The judge probably already has a migraine

[fast snow]

They made Danielle cry they crossed 1 too many lines

[half knot]

if the judge has a daughter, it's over

[opaque torrent]

thank you

[sage venture]

That's the one thanks

[jade jolt]

No problem

[waxen musk]

Glad I stayed up a few more hours. It has revealed things that were not clear initially. I have a little more confidence once again. I really need to sleep now.

[copper jetty]

fake = edited. It was rejected because it was edited texts.

Can you point any source whatsoever that it was rejected due to "relevance"

[waxen musk]

Not even "not clear", but some straight up complete misunderstandings of what was said in court. Anyway gn.

[sage venture]

when in doubt, just blame HYBE it’ll be right most of the time

[half knot]

usually it's either france, britain or hybe's fault for all of world's problems

[frozen granite]

I’d add trump too

[shut kelp]

oh wow so the footage was a different date

[grizzled summit]

and armies.

[short laurel]

and USA

[sage venture]

that's just random video trying to show ILLIT members bowing

[grizzled summit]

ikr ador clearly deleted the original footage when did hanni say that dani was with them it doesnt even make sense

[hoary frost]

Bruh

[frozen granite]

Some of them have common sense I wouldn’t collectively say it’s all. I guess it’s just with every fan base. Some tokkis are toxic too.

But BSH def gives me trump vibes & it’s ugly !!

[short laurel]

it's just army is loudest and most aggressive n most nosebody one.

[frozen granite]

What time is the MHJ injunction with belift ?

[stiff prairie]

anything new in the mean time? njz pr post anything yet?

[grizzled summit]

its already done

[frozen granite]

did anything good come out of that?

[stiff prairie]

it's 5 in kr alr. courts stuff should've ended no?

[grizzled summit]

the next hearing is in may but idk theres no one talking about that

[stiff prairie]

probably no side said anything to media

[kindred estuary]

https://x.com/shamanjz/status/1897920382826610746

oppa NJZ (@shamanjz) on X

Go sleep for those in the west. Day's ovah.

X · Mar 7, 2025, 8:00 AM

[tardy smelt]

lmao judge saw the stack of 1k pages and said "i ain't readin allat"

[kindred estuary]

judge wants to limit it to a ppt presentation and just 30 pages or less 😅

[stiff prairie]

how is mhj gon fit 1k page into 30 pages bru

chatgpt summarize

[frozen granite]

What does ppt mean?

[stiff prairie]

powerpoint/slide

[kindred estuary]

🤣
https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1897919730327208129

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

@shamanjz font size 0.5

X · Mar 7, 2025, 7:58 AM

[opaque torrent]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1897922423732748671

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

Journalistic malpractice.

The texts NJZ presented show Hanni recalling the incident w/ ILLIT's manager consistently & in her own words.

However, what gets reported is HYBE's interpretation; that Hanni did not remember and MHJ suggested what happened which became the narrative.

X · Mar 7, 2025, 8:09 AM

[stiff prairie]

ok so judge sat on that 1k page for a month to come out later and say make it short. coulda said it sooner tho

[frozen granite]

This whole ordeal has me like

[short laurel]

it kinda annoys me. judge not looking at complete evidence report but just part of it this way.

[stiff prairie]

tru

[half knot]

30 pages written submission, 30 minutes powerpoint presentation per side, with rebuttal separately accounted for in case of mhj's side, those are the new limits.

[kindred estuary]

here's another source from ilgan sports

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1897922090688205004

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

(250307)
ILGAN SPORTS
'2B KRW Damages Lawsuit' Min Hee-jin vs BELIFT LAB, Next Court Date is Critical... Both Sides to Present PPT
Reporter Kim Ji-hye
https://t.co/qMHWbmDuqc

X · Mar 7, 2025, 8:07 AM

[craggy skiff]

cake. is that you?

[stiff prairie]

naaah

[jolly junco]

isnt that the purpose of assistant? does the jduge not have any assistant to summarize the 1k pages for him to read?

[stiff prairie]

but i don't see no lies tho

[craggy skiff]

yes

[wind monolith]

so idk if im right tldr is hanni text were not the full and out of context,
the full text has been released.
and mhj trial is in may with ppt 30 min max

[short laurel]

don't forget the ribbon incident. it's important cuz it's not something hybe or anyone should be using for mediaplay

[wind monolith]

oh ya also that

we were all panicking before but its good the whole picture has come out

[stiff prairie]

how is court accepting private conversations is still beyond me tbh. this should warrant for breach of privacy instead imo

[silk skiff]

texts were shown by njz's side no?

[midnight zodiac]

I think it’s njz side showed these and media play edited it

[stiff prairie]

ohh i see

[wind monolith]

and apparently the cctv is from another date ?

[stiff prairie]

where did you get that info

[silk skiff]

here

[wind monolith]

idk im just seeing it on twitter tallytokki https://x.com/talytokki/status/1897908737047707988

taly (@talytokki) on X

@breadeyaa This footage took place on August 14. The incident happened way before August

X · Mar 7, 2025, 7:14 AM

[upbeat stream]

Yep Danielle is wearing her Chosun uni outfit

While Hanni said at the NA that it happened at around the time of Pusan uni performance

[wind monolith]

so hybe came in with absolutely nothing this injunction only mediaplay wow nice

[silk skiff]

just lying for fun atp

[wind monolith]

hhopefully all this is cleared up with the judge

[stiff prairie]

bro i'm getting so confused now. i just hope njz pr comes out quickly and clears these up a bit

[cinder narwhal]

what august

[stiff prairie]

i mean would hybe really be that brainless to completely show a whole different day's activity altogether? that don't make no sense tbh

[short laurel]

https://x.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1897912443537703390

Sheepymcsheep (@sheepymcsheepy) on X

Proof that Hybe/Fraudor released cctv footage of a different date compared to Hanni's claim

https://t.co/lVby6B5EWd

X · Mar 7, 2025, 7:29 AM

[upbeat stream]

Were the girls' final statements shared here?

[stiff prairie]

*x https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1897861836089049320

[harsh dove]

@NJZBUBBLEGUM <t:1741320496:d>

[stiff prairie]

it is now

[sage venture]

there's nothing to be confused about - there’s no video left of Hanni’s incident unless they’re keeping it for some reason It’s already either been deleted intentionally or automatically overwritten Showing other videos means nothing except being a tool for media play

[cinder narwhal]

*x -c https://x.com/parasocialxx/status/1897915669632761925

[harsh dove]

@parasocialxx <t:1741333331:d>

사건일 : 부산대학교(5.28)
CCTV : 조선대학교(5.27)

[cinder narwhal]

oh i sent those earlier

[jolly junco]

this is confusing, in the cctv dani is wearing a bandana tho not a cap

but the back of the shirt is different

[cinder narwhal]

yes which supports 5/27

[cerulean lake]

ye it’s trying to show that the the cctv date doesn’t align with the day hanni was talking abt

[stiff prairie]

tbh i think this is the date hanni was talking about. they just showed a different incident to what hanni was talking about

[short laurel]

nvm i read wrong but yea translation up there

[wind monolith]

source music with another stupid statement
https://x.com/miyawakicentric/status/1897927404569366684

🪽 (@miyawakicentric) on X

@SOURCEMUSIC

X · Mar 7, 2025, 8:28 AM

[short laurel]

didn't previous case cleared it that somu indeed stole the contract from nj?

[steep torrent]

i wish lv can speak on this

[stiff prairie]

Getting too much for me. Imma take a break now sigh*

[heady gate]

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2025/03/732_393677.html

[sage venture]

that’s ridiculous because that part was already mentioned in MHJ’s first injunction court ruling What’s funny is that HYBE actually blamed MHJ for disclosing confidential information which is exactly why that part ended up in the ruling So, in effect, HYBE just confirmed that what MHJ said about the Louis Vuitton incident was true

[upbeat stream]

And if it was false, they wouldn't bring it up again nearly a year later

LV needs to speak up

[hoary frost]

So, what happened?

[cinder narwhal]

good read
"Did an ILLIT member ignore Hanni? And ADOR revealed it? [Jeon Hyun-hwa's Direct Writing]" https://isplus.com/article/view/isp202503070124

how will belift respond lol

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/diorkitty_0515/status/1897929663378497652

[narrow seal]

250307 supernatural | NJZ (@​diorkitty_0515) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/diorkitty_0515/status/1897929663378497652
So Hanni said in the National Assembly that the incident occured on the day she’s preparing to go to Pusan National University, May 28th. ADOR presented a CCTV footage happened on May 27th where Dani was wearing the same jersey she wore at Chosun University. All they do is LIE

[wind monolith]

Love how all of hybe mediaplay has been dismantled

[cinder narwhal]

but damage has been done.. I can't force myself to check reddit rn

[cosmic belfry]

lol they're foaming at the mouth making new threads

[wind monolith]

Ya but thats fandom war and public opinion, it shows ador rlly has nothing so far in court

[pearl cipher]

Wouldn’t be the first time. 😂

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1897948764435775596 hehe finally

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

The media play that thrived on KakaoTalk is now failing because of KakaoTalk. I will skip dinner and prepare a full translation including the Kakaotalk screenshot contents.
https://t.co/AO7p8DrvWE

X · Mar 7, 2025, 9:53 AM

[jolly junco]

imagine being 16 years old and feeling hopeless of her own future 😭

[weak relic]

because ador mid company

[obtuse mantle]

y’all I dunno what to say anymore

Dumbass: They’re really living too well—seriously, which newly debuted girl group has better resources than them? They don’t know how lucky they are.

Me: So do you think these people would be dumb enough to ruin their own future? They are idols chosen from thousands, and the path they’ve gone through is something most people can’t even imagine. If HYBE hadn’t violated their rights, today’s trial wouldn’t be happening.

Dumbass: But the fact is, they’ve already chosen to break the contract and ruin their own future.

I feel so bad for the girls
https://www.threads.net/@alu0315/post/DG5JHM1vu8Z?xmt=AQGzeRqXjrk6TdRW5Wm7Ggep-VZE1iPtaPMAx6dPZT4-3A

[cinder narwhal]

https://fixupx.com/juantokki/status/1897955432800698621

[warm shard]

The video they showed literally has Danielle written on it. Why are people pushing it as if it's a gif of what happened with Hanni?

[cinder narwhal]

hanni's in the vid too

[wind monolith]

hanni is there but this video is for a different date which is the problem

[olive tulip]

Is there a summary? I just woke up lol

[stiff prairie]

#1231839760759263232 message
@dry chasm can you do some announcement or smth? not a lot of ppl know about it yet sadly.

[short laurel]

some neutral people on twter are mad cuz lsf name dropped in this just be4 their CB. like do they not want NJZ to share their side of the story. not to mention girls getting attacked left and right since last year april in all their activities.

[stable escarp]

Didnt le serrafim file a suit?? 😭

[short laurel]

somu did whose 2nd hearing is on 14th iirc

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/haerin1st/status/1897858910175855009

[harsh dove]

@haerin1st <t:1741319799:d>

“NJZ members don't even know i exist, but i edit their videos every day, and i see their faces and hear their voices more than the members themselves”

you are not special CEO Kim Joo-young

[short laurel]

it's sound very much like akgaes

[stiff prairie]

idk what point she wanted to make by saying it

in any case twitter is kinda ok for me now. lots of clap backs and hit tweets too. not as hit as army twts but that's given. anyways i'm scrolling and watching the members' serving face in the court now

[fierce cloak]

show that she knows...how to edit videos? what a dumbass

[wind monolith]

Do we know when the next hearing is?

[red thorn]

Wasn't this mistranslated

[short laurel]

i keep seeing fearnots crying about group mentioned in LV talk. they saying it's harming their group cuz NJZ mentioned them with example from last year totally ignoring other stuff that happened last year blaming it all on NJZ.
crazy part is it wouldn't have blown up today if they just ignored NJZ case and focused on the gorups CB.

[cinder narwhal]

yeah apparently she was relaying what video editors in ador said

[hollow sorrel]

Do we have a deadline for the results of this injunction? I remember mhj’s injunction in october had a deadline of 2 weeks, and I can’t wait for the results of this one

[storm warren]

victim complex off the charts. they were the ones who wanted to frame njz for gfriend disbandment last year. hybe, source music, dispatch and their deluded fans all took part into orchestrating narrative that lsf beared njz training debt and njz made gf disband.

their victim card is denied!

[atomic echo]

I don’t understand how anything is harming their group, they’re just delusional

[storm warren]

also source leaking njz videos snd medical records and hybe pr saying in voice recording that they filed lawsuit against mhj to comfort lsf and illit

[fierce cloak]

they are drama addict, they would stirring accusation & hate just for the sake of it

[atomic echo]

Makes me sick

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/nwjnsev/status/1897938568519021039

[harsh dove]

@nwjnsev <t:1741338791:d>

[🚨] — COMMUNITY NOTE

Hanni’s words are being misrepresented. It’s crucial to clear up misinformation about Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein.

Please rate this note as ‘Helpful’ on all your accounts and share it with your mutuals that love NJZ!

https://x.com/i/birdwatch/t/1897844995408707661?source=6

[stiff prairie]

another community note check. first 2 as helpful, 3rd one as not helpful

[shy schooner]

Fanwars going to have a field day now

[ancient sable]

so much misinformation on twt it’s hell

[split bramble]

dont pay attention to it, they dont matter

[marsh roost]

so what's the latest clear info? they looked happy coming out of the courthouse

[mental nebula]

crazy how they tampered with the evidence and lost the actual part hanni originally mentions yet quick clips this part that is released

[atomic echo]

I don’t get on Twitter, and I’m avoiding Reddit

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/jeanzified/status/1897971218906517717?s=46

zy. #NJ1 (@jeanzified) on X

my god…

X · Mar 7, 2025, 11:22 AM

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003418040

If the illit member acc said that its crazy😶

[stable escarp]

wait hold on where the heck is this from because that it is jaw dropping

[wind monolith]

The article

[stable escarp]

enabling bullying is crazy

[silk skiff]

and everyone is eating it up, absolutely insane that they're getting away with this shit.

[short laurel]

1st someone clear this for me who shared this kkt in court. Njz side or ador side.

[red thorn]

From my understanding, NJZ side provided that kkt messages as evidence

[short laurel]

"Here it says ador revealed it?" In the title. It'll be sad if njz supporting media do same thing as hybe here. Our side will be no different from hybe side then. So we need to have clear idea of who shared it.

[cinder narwhal]

bubblegum is translating it wait for it

speak of the devil https://njb-jj.notion.site/250307-ILGAN-SPORTS-Did-an-I-member-disrespect-Hanni-Did-ADOR-reveal-this-Jeon-Hyung-hwa-s-1af1279fe54e80c69778dbf48d9be670

apparently ador distrubuted it to the press too, aside from presenting it in court

[wind monolith]

Alr now where is damien saying njz should deserve an apology from illit

[red thorn]

The kkt chat is material submitted by njz in court (the master source I assume is no filter/censor)-> for the hearing infront attendance, njz shown it with censoring illit's member remark -> adore use that material submitted for pointed out their defense but with the uncensored version hence that article title

[wind monolith]

He was quick to say tokkis should apologize to illit

[short laurel]

That fact that its ilgan Sports article..

[cinder narwhal]

?

[tawdry vessel]

speaking of an angel

[wind monolith]

If a njz member were to say this, twt would be in flames

But that fandom is backed by two others so….

[red thorn]

It seems fair report tho

[short laurel]

Yea that's why it's weird

[cinder narwhal]

ilgan sports has long been pro njz

[short laurel]

Ooh. There was a sports that was pro hybe. Which was it?

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/sheepymcsheepy/status/1857211122824442027

Sheepymcsheep (@sheepymcsheepy) on X

Hybe media play articles are coming out again, saying things about a 450 billion contract termination penalty.

Specifically from these two clowns:

Tenasia - Choi Ji Ye
Sports Chosun - Baek Ji Eun

Looks like Hybe/Fraudor has no intention of meeting the girls' demands

X · Nov 14, 2024, 11:56 PM

[red thorn]

Ah sports chosun

[short laurel]

Ohk

[short laurel]

I got reddit notification on mistranslation of this n ooo god how dumb ppl are. 😭

[waxen musk]

Just went on that general forum I mentioned the other day with that small K-pop thread and the first thing I saw was "the NewJeans members (especially Hanni) are so full of shit". Posted around an hour ago. Made me so angry.

I haven't caught up with the Source Music statement yet. Were there any translations or will I have to translate it myself?

[short laurel]

They calling hanni mean over mistranslated articles. When this one clearly stated that njz censored illit but ador revealed it

[red thorn]

Should be more careful now at this point, most of it because took rushed janky machine tl at face value

[waxen musk]

Yeah we completely misunderstood the texts and what the Ador CEO said until hours after everything was reported on.

[wind monolith]

Hybe mediaplay at its finest

[waxen musk]

I'm glad things look a lot more positive a few hours later. It's just that the damage has already been done and it upsets me because the girls are the ones being harmed by it the most.

[ancient sable]

i know but it’s hard not to. i hate how other fandoms are getting involved for no reason too dragging our girls name thru the mud

[craggy skiff]

bro never have viet-bunnies experiences
because of the hatred about her family background, hanni gets cursed here every time there is any news related to njz, no matter good or bad.
Find any njz post, it always some cursed comment.
such a tired

[fierce cloak]

nah it's just short term pain, also the attack on i-haters are irrelevant, rather it boost NJZ popularity & engagement
What matters the most are the court decisions and NJZ must win everything

[ancient sable]

and i know they will! i have faith in them

[waxen musk]

Of course that's what matters the most. I will always do that same and mirror the girls' clear confidence. I still worry about their name just being irreparably damaged in English-speaking K-pop circles and the thought of us Bunnies and the girls having to live with that forever, even though we know the truth.

[split bramble]

they're just low iq kids who'll do anything except real work, leave them be, they dont matter

[stable escarp]

its funny tho that when my mum went there all her albums were sold out

[fierce cloak]

don't worry, it just the echo chamber in a subset of online community, the haters have always been irrelevant to any fandom. As long as the artists still putting out new contents and have fans supports, they are fine, no matter what amount of 'hate' they get. Even, take 'hate' as a badge of honor that the artists are successful enough to 'threaten' those insecure people and make them perceived as competitions - which only make the celeb get more attention & be more relevant on the media (real money here)

[ancient sable]

thankfully the tweets i posted replying to some got a good amount of likes, eventually everyone will see the truth when the girls win. that’s all we need tbh

[fierce cloak]

I have witnessed enough of 'haters' psychology that appear in any fandom, and majority of the cases they dont matter
The best way to deal with them are

1. Detach, ignore, don't let their bullshit to provoke you
2. Do the real work of clarify the truth, spread the words on social media to drown out misinformation, and create contents promo the artists' activities -> increase engagement
3. If possible support the legal works like Team K-Bunnies

[upbeat stream]

The best way to tell if the hate has actually affected someone's image is too see the quotes of a casual hit tweet, if many people are still hating on them, then you know the hate has affected their image. But that has definitely not happened to njz

[waxen musk]

I don't care about the people who are clearly haters. What I care about is how people I wouldn't even call haters are just being fed all this crap. I don't want it to bleed into the knowledge of casual fans of K-pop, where they just automatically associate NJZ with "bad".

[upbeat stream]

If you see any hit tweet on about music, popbase or just random accounts, the quotes are always full of love, so there's nothing to worry

Whenever njz are assosciated with an idol, their fans support us

[fierce cloak]

The worst sign is when sponsorships are dropping - if any brands see NJZ as a threat to their reputation and drop them - true money speaks.
But reality we see NJZ has high demands from brands and promotion everywhere, so they are perfectly fine - which also why hybe/adot are desperate to block their income

[upbeat stream]

Like when Nayeon invited them to her show, or when hanni went to baemon's concert

[upbeat stream]

of course, I was just talking about fandom spaces

[fierce cloak]

But these cases often rare, only occur when the artists actually evolve in criminal cases, like r***, tax invasion, or did something morally outragous that unforgivable

[sick fable]

Where's the kakao screenshot of it though? The article doesn't show it

[wind monolith]

https://njb-jj.notion.site/250307-ILGAN-SPORTS-Did-an-I-member-disrespect-Hanni-Did-ADOR-reveal-this-Jeon-Hyung-hwa-s-1af1279fe54e80c69778dbf48d9be670

Its in this one

[short laurel]

that reminds me last month i saw couple fan accounts of proven criminal k celebrities and idols. 💀

[fierce cloak]

Think like this
Haters = non paying = no money, so they don't affect on artists' revenue & income
Fans & supporters = pay money & attention & won't be sway by haters
Casual audience = may pay money, may give attention or turn away from the artists

Haters = paying attention (they are 'fans' as in have emotional connection & follow activities too, just very distorted views) + stirring drama => fighting back and forth among fans & haters = increase engagement
=> catch casual audience attention => may increase the chance of exposure and turns casual fans into hardcore fans

So only except when artists indeed do something so outragous that all casual audience turn their back, core fans quit fandom, brands dropping sponsors...then generally, having 'haters' is a 'good' thing, as they increase engagement, attention, relevant of how the artists are a 'competitive threat'

[waxen musk]

I agree that this is one of the best signs for them. I just hope new brands show their support. Currently I'm a little worried that a lot of brands are in a wait and see situation, if they're interested at all. The brands that are currently showing support are ones that either have yet to end their contract, or had already had very positive relationships with the girls in the past.

[fierce cloak]

In worst case scenarior, let say NJZ lose in court (which i firmly believe they wont), but they continue put out great music & perform for hardcore fans & casual audience who support them (which are a lot), they can still able to thrive & make a bunch of money anyway

[waxen musk]

I know, with how many Bunnies there are worldwide, they won't ever be short of support and will earn more from performing to Bunnies and selling merch than anything else.

I think I've seen a pie chart of which sectors K-pop groups earn their money, and touring is the majority.

[fierce cloak]

yeah to me the best sign is no brands drop njz, even said their legal issue not affect any sale or brand reputation at all => fans + casual audience support njz with real money
Which is why some random assholes on social media spill hates & misinformation don't really mean anything, other than boost NJZ relevant & engagement
So bunnies should learn to detach from these haters, no need to feel provoked, angered, injustice - just see them as a bunch of insecure dumbass have nothing better to do in their life

[waxen musk]

It's why so many K-pop groups are forced to tour so early in their career and for so long, to the point of exhaustion.

[sick fable]

Heresay statements are not admissible in court

If Hanni was going to bring this in court, she should've have had solid evidence than a "they said this, and they did this"

[short laurel]

not specifically groups but their company who make them.

[waxen musk]

Yeah, I'm realising that I think we'll be fine even if we're "alone". Bunnies and NJZ together is all that's needed for them to continue thriving. Thanks for letting me come to this realisation.

[fierce cloak]

yeah basically
Idols themselves are a 'product', as long as the product & brand still sell, still get support, still being loved - they will make money
Which, very much aligned with MHJ philosophy too, create great arts, be good human beings, be genuine & give all you can - eventually the audience will respond with greater support and reward with real money

[wind monolith]

Thats not what the article said njz team didnt bring it, it was censored but ador/hybe released it

[waxen musk]

That article explains the situation properly, right? I barely skimmed it.

[fierce cloak]

yeah, NJZ actually very lucky to have strong brand reputation & recognition since early of career (~2-3 years in) and themselves have money & hardcore fandom (and very mature ones too), so they already have a lot of advantage & leverage compared to majority of artists (especially indie, or smaller groups that don't have much success nor attention)

[wind monolith]

And i never said this had an impact on the injunction. All i said is its,crazy if this was said and that the text messeges that came out at the beginning were very out of context but now we have the full picture

[short laurel]

it's not heresay. NJ team brought it to court and ador used it in their argument, an action pretty much confirmed it. since both party agreed with it means it is valid and up to court to decide which interpritation of it is right.

[midnight yarrow]

I don't think any sane or normal individual came away from today's trial thinking HYBE/FRAUDOR did anything but take Ls. In fact, they've been caught in even MORE lies now, so that's the only new revelation

[waxen musk]

Oh yeah I need to see what happened with Source's statement. I skipped that when sleeping for a few hours.

[short laurel]

i need summary of LV situation that's been discussed so far since last year.

[ashen charm]

Source music mistreats there own idols idk why they are talking ...

[short laurel]

https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment-news/korean/hybe-stole-newjeans-louis-vuitton-deal-for-le-sserafim-alleged-court-document-raises-suspicion-article-110671168
"It was also alleged that the HYBE branding team lied to ADOR and Louis Vuitton separately in order to appoint LE SSERAFIM as the luxury brand's ambassador. However, ADOR discovered this which led to HYBE acknowledging their mistake and giving ADOR three months' worth of commission. However, as ADOR and Louis Vuitton fact-check their contract, HYBE accused ADOR of 'leaking internal documents' and submitted the exchange to the court."

ok the fact that hybe acknowledge their mistake is enough to show somu still lying.

unless hybe fooled somu too

stop posting lia's post. she is no different from army.

remember we not blaming artists but the company.

[hoary frost]

Oh I just saw this on tiktok.. omg what is even happening anymore I’m so confused and scared about what’s gonna happen to NJZ😭

[short laurel]

it's a post from last year MHJ 1st injunction time.

[ashen charm]

Hybe definitely lying

[waxen musk]

I think the ILLIT girls are being attacked by Bunnies again because of the new part where they said "Yes, yes, I’ll pretend not to know her". I don't know what to say. I understand why they're being attacked directly now even though it should be the manager and company, but I don't want to see it.

[short laurel]

existence of this should help cases of NJ and MHJ both

[red thorn]

Ador's lawyer incited the incident with not filtering the kkt messages

[fierce cloak]

is that message true?
If it's true then it's a huge disappointment. I dont know nor care about illit girls, but well i guess they are being raised and influenced by awful people like belieflab, so welll...

[short laurel]

i m waiting for axen lazily here. they typing long.

[raven kelp]

hesitant axen

[hot girder]

You have to present proof right as it is. You can't just censor certain messages you think will bring drama

[sick fable]

What is everyone's thoughts on MHJ? Is she the good guy in this situation? Or is she gaslighting?

[short laurel]

we are talking about in media.

[hot girder]

well, what are the media saying? If illit indeed acted that way, it's a shame idk what else to say lol

[short laurel]

yea...

[sick fable]

The media is saying Hanni lied

[wind monolith]

Thats not true

[short laurel]

the media is not saying hanni lied.

[hoary frost]

Uhoh what happened

[olive tulip]

Is there any good news for us?

[wind monolith]

Idk what media ur reading

[short laurel]

this post is from media and it's callign out ador.

[ashen charm]

I do believe she's doing right for the girls but so much media play can change everything

[hoary frost]

Hella medias are saying Hanni lied but it's fake

[wind monolith]

Any media like chosun or tenasia is obv not trust worthy

And now that the full text are out its also being reported on by trust worthy media

[tardy smelt]

I had a shit ton to say but I said it to myself in this chat box. So I’ll just say I’m frustrated I can see the truth but all I can do is wait.

[ashen charm]

Idk hanni lied she didn't name drop anyone it was ador and belift also cctv was from a wrong date but media getting paid by hype to slander hannis name ig

[short laurel]

thx to @silent spade i got perfect counter to fandom on twter calling out NJ for mentioning their words in court.
It was hybe who filed the cases where groups name happened to be involved and it's hybe who decided on groups CB around the same time as the case. 😆

[tardy smelt]

Hanni did not lie.

[sick fable]

Here's the issue that I'm seeing: Hanni wasn't sure if "ignore her" was said. MHJ pushed the idea to Hanni that's what happened. But Hanni herself said it wasn't that big of a deal.

Are yall not seeing the toxic gaslighting that MHJ is doing?

[tardy smelt]

In regards to how ILLIT allegedly reacted in that situation, I do not want to see anyone blaming them for it, but people will anyway. Understand how they felt in that situation as Hanni did.

[upbeat stream]

Well they were looking for reasons to get out of contract so whatever

[short laurel]

it can be interpretative as MHJ questioning why artists under her received that treatment. it sitll doesn't change the fact that something alogn those lines happened and that belift deleted the video.

[red thorn]

That's for the submitted material/evidence for judges and party involved yes
But when it's shown during hearing where there's attendance from press etc. Think some of it could be censored as option

[upbeat stream]

And there are enough justified reasons too

[sick fable]

Who said they deleted the video?

[short laurel]

belift

[wind monolith]

And if ur gonna say cctv says otherwise the cctv that ador showed is the wrong date

[sick fable]

Belift said in court they deleted the video of the incident that Hanni claimed happened?

[fierce cloak]

that account obviously is trying to stir a fight in this chat, ignore them

[sick fable]

I'm trying to fully understand from an unbiased lense

[short laurel]

in National assembly last year. it was acknowledged by them and hanni even have recording of security guard slipping up

[sick fable]

Ah okay, I missed this detail. I'll look in it further

[upbeat stream]

There were tons of articles saying it's standard practice to delete old cctv footage

But somehow we got footage of an earlier event today

[short laurel]

older footage remains but footage from few min after deleted. ackowledged by ador and belift in NA last year 🤣

[short laurel]

for more detail. belift said an employee accidentally deleted it and that employee is no longer with the company.

but what raises the eyebrows is the deleted footage had to be about the incident hanni talked about and why did ador asked belift to investigate it.

that's all of the details regarding this.

[sick fable]

It's very confusing

[waxen musk]

It's confusing on purpose.

[short laurel]

they've been trying to cause confusion. that's why we got NJZ_PR account to stop it to some extent.

[sick fable]

All I know is the KKT messages (to me) proves that Hanni didn't know what she heard and it didn't bother her. ILLIT treated her with respect. MHJ pushed Hanni to make the allegations of bullying and make it into a huge persecution deal, and Hanni went along with it.

That's my current views on this. I don't see Hanni as the bully or anything like that, I believe MHJ is continuously lying and manipulating the girls and the industry. That's just coming from somebody not super involved in the fandom.

Because anything MHJ says just shows classic signs of gaslighting

[waxen musk]

I don't think you read that article above that you were given. You're explaining things like how we understood from the reports coming during the court hearing, not hours later where a lot of clarifications were made.

[short laurel]

idk that actually sounds like how MHJ haters been ruining her reputation for her entire career. from actual neutral prospective it only shows MHJ questioning why artists under her company is treated like that.

[waxen musk]

The article link again: https://njb-jj.notion.site/250307-ILGAN-SPORTS-Did-an-I-member-disrespect-Hanni-Did-ADOR-reveal-this-Jeon-Hyung-hwa-s-1af1279fe54e80c69778dbf48d9be670

[stiff prairie]

@sick fable i think this should clear u up

[short laurel]

nothing in that kkt shows MHJ "gaslighting" hanni

[waxen musk]

There are more screenshots. All screenshots are shown and translated in that article linked above.

[wind monolith]

It clearly shows here hanni did hear

[waxen musk]

In full:

[stiff prairie]

maybe they only saw the army twts that's why i shared it again

[waxen musk]

Even just reading these texts alone clears everything up for me.

[short laurel]

the last one

[rugged dagger]

people keep taking "funny" as haha funny and not like a "well that's just weird" kind of funny

[waxen musk]

That's part of the first screenshot above.

[rugged dagger]

it's like these people have never had a conversation with someone in their life

[short laurel]

ooh yea xD

[waxen musk]

Exactly. People just need to read these screenshots and that's it tbh. I'm so frustrated all the time.

[short laurel]

that's why it makes me more confident about my broken english.

[ashen charm]

I found this on two

[tardy smelt]

I get what where you’re coming from since you’re not invested in the members. In regards to Hanni not knowing what she hard, her Korean isn’t perfect so it’s understandable she doesn’t remember exactly what was said. But she did say she knew what she heard. In regards to Hanni saying it’s not a big deal, she wouldn’t have brought it up if it didn’t affect her. She said that because she understood why the ILLIT members responded the way they did considering the climate of the situation at the time and was being kind about it.

[rugged dagger]

ah ok thank you

[rugged dagger]

where is your proof that mhj pushed her to bring up the issue? hanni herself brought it up when they had that livestream on youtube that they themselves decided they wanted to do

[hoary frost]

the fuck is censored

[dapper root]

Illit

[hoary frost]

oh i thought it was isis

[short laurel]

i m thinking bad but what if ||that noodle thing in illit video was really on purpose?||

[tardy smelt]

Where would ISIS play a role in all this 💀

[rugged dagger]

noodle?

[stiff prairie]

What noodle thing

[short laurel]

minji one

[waxen musk]

Kalguksu

[stiff prairie]

Isis is the root of all evil in kpop yeah

[rugged dagger]

ah

[short laurel]

from be4 it all started.

[tardy smelt]

I think it’s best not to overanalyse

[stiff prairie]

Nah that's kinda conspiratory tbh

[short laurel]

ok

[stiff prairie]

But again if sb before today said that the reason njz's ribbon was diff than other hybe groups was what as revealed today we woulda say it's a conspiracy theory too

[short laurel]

2 groups just had bit too much little problems in public be4 all of this blew off. and learning about what hybe did to them since debut. my mind just think all of those little things that happened between 2 groups was by hybe on purpose.

[ashen charm]

The ribbons look different compared to the other hybe groups

[sage venture]

nothing is off the table - people in K community have already dug up a bunch of past posts to build a case for criticizing NJZ over the ribbon issue Yes I used to think this was over the top, but not anymore

[stable escarp]

Why am i seeing Army under NewJeans "miss this era" videos and them saying "ye i miss it too, when they werent all about drama, bunnies werent toxic" etc etc... Holy

[red thorn]

Pretenders

[pulsar wasp]

kpop twitter is wylin’ rn

[heavy ocean]

Real

[wind monolith]

Injunction was tdy, what ur seeing is media play. Whatever ur seeing about hanni has been debunked.
This is a good read

https://njb-jj.notion.site/250307-ILGAN-SPORTS-Did-an-I-member-disrespect-Hanni-Did-ADOR-reveal-this-Jeon-Hyung-hwa-s-1af1279fe54e80c69778dbf48d9be670

[hoary frost]

i assume theres no news from today's trial since theres no new pins

[heavy ocean]

Yeah I knew it was happening today but I didn’t know why everyone switched up

[hot girder]

because it's easy to mediaplay international fans and its clear as day

[wind monolith]

Well those 3 fandoms were always like that no one switched up

[stiff prairie]

There's is. We just don't do pins anymore

[hoary frost]

i only read the pins

[hot girder]

So far I'm just really mad about what got leaked from the hanni texts. Wdym one ill*t said she's gonna pretend hanni doesn't exist... ew

[wind monolith]

They got some hybe media play and r eating it up but its been debunked

[stiff prairie]

The next pin will be we won the injunction. Inshallah por favor

[heavy ocean]

Where does le sserafim come into this and why r their fans so mad

[hot girder]

Because the group got mentioned during NJZ defense

[heavy ocean]

In a negative way or?

[wind monolith]

Lsfm was brought up in court bcz of the lv ambassador deal where hybe tried stealing it and tried to give it to lsfm

[hot girder]

They talked about how NJZ debut got screwed because soumu suddenly decided to debut yunjin+chae+saku, and that hybe sold the hyein LV deal to lesserafim without ador knowing

[waxen musk]

Pins are so inconsistent it's a bit annoying. Also we don't even have a server wide shout out for the petition everyone should be signing. This server... I wish it was better here sometimes. I'm still mad about what happened that left it in this state.

[hot girder]

ofc this is not meant to be a drag to lesserafim but you have to mention them because the court needs the facts just as they are. you can't simply skip on certain names in court

[short laurel]

about LV deal somu still denying with their statement today but from last years injunction we know that hybe admitted they did it and compensated og ador.

[waxen musk]

All the things said about Le Sserafim today were said by Min Heejin during her first press conference back in April.

[hot girder]

But fearnots are taking it as a direct attack to the group when it's really not

[acoustic verge]

lol what is ADOR doing with this CCTV footage. They need to fire the lawyers. what a dumb play

[waxen musk]

They have not learned anything since April. They just hear their name and get angry from that alone.

[hot girder]

They're so fool

[hoary frost]

#contact-us

[waxen musk]

Sorry I completely missed this detail earlier but the "Yes, yes, I’ll pretend not to know her" was censored by NJZ's legal team when they shared it but then was not censored when shared by Ador and spread through the press when they were misrepresenting the truth earlier.
NJZ and their team still do not wish for any hate to be sent towards anyone, as proven time and time again. We should respect their wishes too, even if people are angry.

[short laurel]

somu vs mhj lawsuit on 14th will have fearnots in rage. the very same lawsuit started by somu to "comfort the members" according to somu own words from last year.

company using artists as shield yet fans defending the company.

[hot girder]

I can't help but get mad at those girls even if NJZ team doesn't wish hate upon them, and never ever used their words against them

[heavy ocean]

Somethings not adding up though, regarding the njz_official insta story why would Hanni say she didn’t wanna escalate things further? They had their chance to speak so why would she even consider holding back? She’s already also been to the National Assembly for this. (Disclaimer this a genuine question please don’t think I’m siding against the girls 😭🙏)

It’s already been escalated as far as it could and the focus has been on them for months now

[tardy smelt]

there's also what hanni said after describing the events. she has the maturity to understand why they responded that way in the climate of the situation. so ofc they don't have any ill wishes towards those girls and they've continuously shown that. but people aren't gonna care and throw shade towards illit anyway.

[tardy smelt]

because she's too kind for her own good. i wish she realised she should've spoken in the moment but we roll with it.

might turn out better this way though, the media probably would've misconstrued what she would've said in the moment too

[heavy ocean]

It’s a court situation and they brought up the whole mistreatment so I don’t know why holding back would do anything but work negatively against them

[heavy ocean]

I just hope it works out 🙏

[waxen musk]

I know. The hate is warranted. I just don't want to see it constantly spread online. Maybe it's what Hybe wants, considering they didn't censor it unlike NJZ's team.

[heavy ocean]

International fans are bashing like crazy

[frozen granite]

Has anything happened ? Anything new released ?

[sage venture]

because that could turn this lawsuit into a he-said/she-said case The CCTV footage is already gone, whether intentionally or not Instead, focusing on all the mistreatment and violations of basic rights is more important And I think that's right choice

[short laurel]

what milo said above.

[sage venture]

I think what Dani said in the end perfectly sums up the whole lawsuit

'Until now, it was incredibly difficult to endure ADOR’s unfair treatment, and after leaving, I realized even more how tough it truly was The managers, CEO, and stylists I trusted and relied on are no longer at ADOR If we were to go back, I don’t know who would be there to protect us I’m 21 years old, and I don’t want to spend the next five years going through that again That’s why, no matter what the outcome is, I want to make it clear that I have absolutely no desire to stay with ADOR'

There's no going back

[upper solstice]

im currently speaking with a husky voice

[heady gate]

What is the next hearing? Is it on April 3?

[wind monolith]

Isnt that the main lawsuit
Idk but i heard both side have until 14 to send more evidence

[heavy ocean]

I get that but in the texts given Hanni said she made eye contact with the manager but at the National Assembly she said she didn’t?

[frozen granite]

For the injunction between ador & NJZ?

[upbeat stream]

Yes, what Dani said was smart. The judge needs to know that sending them back to ador is not an option. Its either ban on working or they are able to work without ador.

[waxen musk]

Upcoming legal schedule for Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein:

• October 30 (09:50 KST) <t:1761785400:R> - JUDGEMENT DAY for exclusive contract validation trial against Ador

Upcoming legal schedule for Min Heejin:

• October 13 (16:55 KST) - MHJ vs Employee B 3rd hearing Delayed to unknown date
• November 7 (16:30 KST) - MHJ's 4th hearing against Source Music
• November 14 (16:00 KST) - MHJ's 4th hearing against Belift
• November 27 (15:00 KST) - MHJ's 5th hearing for the shareholders' agreement
• December 18 (16:30 KST) - Conclusion hearing for MHJ's shareholders' agreement

-# See old schedule dates here: #1231839760759263232 message

[upbeat stream]

March 17th is mhj vs employee b

[heady gate]

mhj is very busy

[sage venture]

As far as I remember, Hanni didn't say anything about eye contact at all in NA

[frozen granite]

I’m screenshotting this

[heavy ocean]

I have a screenshot but I don’t have image perms 💔💔

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1898043224595599787?s=46

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

What happened in court was that Sejong presented the text messages w/ full context to counter HYBE’s patchwork job and spin to the judge. That’s why Hanni was able to remain compose.

The media mainly reported HYBE’s spin, which was why Hanni responded on IG to the public.

X · Mar 7, 2025, 4:09 PM

[sage venture]

You can write the text

[frozen granite]

Oh so she did clarify it only in court ?

[short laurel]

Screenshot of what? There's video Of that NA hearing on YouTube. So if hanni really lied on that part as u said it'll be easily proved.

[heavy ocean]

In National Assembly: “but when they came out, the manager… she made eye contact with me. She said to ignore me and pretend they didn’t see me”

[heavy ocean]

I’m also tryna figure out what’s right and what’s wrong I can send it to u in dms if u want

[short laurel]

should find it in that NA video which would be the direct source.

[heavy ocean]

I found it, and the exact moment she said it

[short laurel]

Share

[frozen granite]

I just opened tiktok & it seems that some tokkis are being divided & apologizing to illit’s fanbase & questioning hanni

[wind monolith]

They r def not tokkis

[short laurel]

Tiktok only has 1 tokki n that is tally

[heavy ocean]

https://youtu.be/02HAZ5E25k8?si=Alhb6OC8vDi6tQtE time stamp 1:22 remember to put ur subs on

[sage venture]

You lost in translation in today's text message Hanni said she greeted the manager and afterwards when the manager walk by the manager didn't look at her

[waxen musk]

I wonder if all this stuff is so plainly clear if you're Korean. All we do is question our understanding on what's being reported.

[heavy ocean]

Check the video 🙏

[frozen granite]

Agh sort of wish this footage wasn’t shown

[waxen musk]

It will help NJZ.

[twin cypress]

I wonder if Damien still thinks tokkis have to apologize to illit after we got more context and the full text messages. 😂😂😂

[frozen granite]

Ok but when ?

[sage venture]

That part means "마주치고" in Korean means they just met There's no part of saying eye contact

[waxen musk]

In the courts.

[wind monolith]

Patience buddy patience

[waxen musk]

I know it's temporary pain because people don't actually look at the truth of what was shown. But the truth is now out there. The courts will see it. It will help NJZ.

[short laurel]

We should confirm this just in case.

But eye contact or not, even the wrong date video ador shared today showed the manager completely ignored hanni n dani.

[waxen musk]

Where did we originally learn the date of the incident?

[short laurel]

From Hanni

[waxen musk]

Oh ok. With how easy it is to mix up dates, I just wanted to confirm what was said and when.

[short laurel]

Plus hanni said she was alone during the incident. Ador shared video where she was not alone

[waxen musk]

Either way, even if the date was correct, the CCTV footage still backs up what Hanni said and also doesn't show the deleted part.

[short laurel]

Yup

So we have 2 dates where the manager ignored hanni n dani in 1. Thx ador

[heavy ocean]

I’m hoping you’re right 🙏🙏 I’ve translated it twice and both times it said “our eyes met”

[sage venture]

yep, people are just focusing too much on the details It happened almost a year ago I'm pretty sure what Hanni clearly remembers is that she was ignored

[waxen musk]

...and the video shows the manager not bowing anyway.

[short laurel]

Exactly

This manager who hybe side claims had to get therapy

[sage venture]

'마주치고' means generally they met eye to eye but doesn't focus on eye to eye contact Two blind people can '마주치다' but I don't think this matters

[waxen musk]

Sometimes I forget to step back and remember why any of this is happening.
All of what happened today was to stop all of NJZ's activities. I almost don't see how much of what was said today was that relevant to getting what Ador wants.
Also my memory is barely holding on with what Ador currently says is their problem with MHJ, considering the stuff about taking over Ador was dismissed.

[heavy ocean]

Thanks for explaining 🙏🙏 our knowledge is so limited sometimes bc we can only go off of translations

[twin cypress]

I’m just thinking but ador and that wack ass ceo must be dumb af if they really presented Dani instead of hanni cause like how do you mix them up if you “really care about them”

[wind monolith]

Hanni was also in the video

[sage venture]

no problem it's just Hanni's Korean is good but vocabulary is somewhat chaotic So don't try to focus on too much detail I guess

[copper current]

Evil Ador is successful in harming Hanni internationally. A bunch of YouTube videos call her liars. Help!!!

[sage venture]

she's probably one of the most genuine person I've ever seen

[waxen musk]

I know, that's why it hurts so much more.

[short laurel]

Thankfully we have teambunnies to report to who will take action

[runic tinsel]

my friend is asking whats gonna happen, and theyre not involved in njz lore. so could i have a basic summary of what happened so far (just court stuff)

[waxen musk]

Well I done the minimum and said I'm upset at the misinformation and just posted the Ilgan Sports article to that forum I keep bringing up. Feels useless though.

I'm extremely non-confrontational and basically only speak about this topic in here so I feel nervous to go against them but when NOBODY is speaking up for NJZ I had to do at least that.

[sage venture]

It's so long but I found a summary but it's in Korean so you'll have to get it translated https://www.instiz.net/name_enter/95304736?page=1&category=2&k=NJZ&stype=9

[runic tinsel]

thank you, i can understand korean but cant read any of it (thanks mom)

[waxen musk]

I can read it but can't understand any of it.

[mild mist]

tell me about it, it feels like trying to climb up victoria falls

[potent lichen]

Trying to avoid Reddit and X kpop discussions because they’re Hybe apologists

[waxen musk]

Saw that Taly gave us a quick update to say she's working on getting everything right before posting a video and has barely slept. So glad we have Taly.

[upbeat stream]

Twitter is still mostly those 3 fandoms. Reddit is worse because many of them are from other fandoms too, all kinds of fans coming together to hate njz

[sage venture]

whenever i see malicious comment/content take it as a free money gift for the members - just report it to Team Bunnies

https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1897799575907512395 They won't miss

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

안녕하세요, 팀 버니즈입니다.

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X · Mar 7, 2025, 12:00 AM

it'll be a monthly event

[potent lichen]

It’s been a long timeline and problem is casuals/non fans don’t keep up with specific details, especially lost in translation.

Very frustrating to see

[upbeat stream]

The case is hard enough to follow for dedicated fans, casuals have got no chance lol

[tardy smelt]

yeah, the misinformation fucking sucks and i hate that there's nothing i can do about it that'll make a difference so i'm trying to go back to not giving the legal drama any more attention until the next time it's relevant. what's best is to let this pass and focus on the upcoming comeback like the members would want.

i also hate how hanni's being targeted and mischaracterised because they don't know what she's like but nothing will stop people from doing it because they don't care. in a way, i'm relieved it's her out of everyone in the group because she's shown she's strong and mature enough to handle it.

[waxen musk]

You know how dedicated I am to trying to keep up to date and I am STRUGGLING.

[sage venture]

guys it's almost the finish line After this month, it'll get much better

[waxen musk]

Yeah probably.

[waxen musk]

I don't know for sure but I'm probably one of the older people consistently chatting here, but I have not had to go through shit like these girls have. And they're able to express themselves and believe in themselves and behave so genuinely and bring so many people together it blows my mind, it's something I haven't even come 0.1% close to doing in my life.

We shouldn't even be considering the need to celebrate the maturity of such young girls. But we have to, they truly are special.

[tardy smelt]

i'm also older than them (not as old as you gramps :p) but i sympathise a lot with their predicament in a different way. when i was their age, i lost a lot of time i could've enjoyed because of the pandemic. i just want this shit to be over for them so they can move on with their lives.

[hoary frost]

why are we bring illit into this gen question

[hoary frost]

yo what happened

[waxen musk]

If you're backreading that far back, keep going, you'll understand what happened.

[hoary frost]

Can u do a quick summary

[short laurel]

Cuz topic was about them? Belift ador somu hybe keep using them for drama. N so much mistranslation to attack hanni in illit name

[hoary frost]

ahhh okay

[twin cypress]

Bro they’ve been in on it since the start lmao. Remember that weird live they did where a staffer gave wonhee a phone so that they could fake her reading mean comments to get sympathy

[short laurel]

That was weird

[potent lichen]

I’m finding it hard to support/like Hybe groups throughout this, especially when their fandoms are so toxic. Like I would not attend a concert anymore

[hoary frost]

Hey actually, what was that all about? Why would you make them go through that anyways

Especially how young wonhee is, it could affect her mental health

[twin cypress]

And then the quote where they said what did our ceo do wrong for this hate like the belift staff didn’t sexualize newjeans and call them bait for adults

[short laurel]

I actually removed hybe groups songs except svt from my playlist. I find it hard to support them when they don't speak up for the mess their fandoms make.

I said it alot last year but hybe made groups fandom are extra extreme even in already extreme kpop stan culture n more pro company than pro artists. In my observation

[twin cypress]

Illit aren’t innocent in this whenever given a chance they stand up and become puppets for belift and hybe. Like assuming what hanni said is 100% true and one member said yes yes I’ll pretend like I don’t know her, what does that illit member gain from voicing that out loud + actually listening and following through with something you know is wrong to do?

[short laurel]

I not want to blame artists cuz being selected to debut is very hard n at that age young idols just listen to whatever they're told. Sadly it's common in all of kpop idol system.
So i don't blame illit.

But i very much blame the senior artists bts for never speaking up.

[silk skiff]

Yeah I think we should cut the members some slack

I think most of us underestimate how beholden most idols are to their managers/upper management.

[tardy smelt]

i wouldn't put any blame on ILLIT. it's a dangerous road. and not what the people we're defending would want. HYBE and BELIFT are the ones painting a target on ILLIT's backs whereas Hanni has made an effort to put herself in their shoes and censor any mention of them.

[silk skiff]

Plus they’re rookies on contracts that are likely exploitative, they’ve seen first hand how easy it is for hybe to cut any of the members (youngseo). So i kinda don’t blame them for being compliant even towards unreasonable orders.

[tardy smelt]

just, give them grace in this situation

[ancient sable]

yup there’s a reason why everyone in korea is on the girls side yet it’s so different here

[short laurel]

Also illit members did greet back according to hanni.

[twin cypress]

I was once 16 and I knew right from wrong lol. If someone told me to ignore a colleague right in front of their face I wouldn’t then just verbally agree that it’s okay to ignore them in front of them lmao

[short laurel]

Idols under them are just shields to defend hybe n bsh.

[tardy smelt]

they're not you, and you're not in their situation

[hoary frost]

Hybe has their whole career in hand, if they do something hybe doesn't like, who knows what they'll do

[ashen charm]

i didnt like mhj

[twin cypress]

My point being they aren’t babies like most people treat idols and they know what the right thing to do is and did the opposite

[short laurel]

Situations are different. N young can't speak up to old in asia be4 being called out for being rude regardless of who is right or wrong. 💀

[silk skiff]

Careers are at stake here

[tardy smelt]

yes ofc, but you need to put yourself in their shoes. even hanni understands and she was there.

[brazen ice]

so at the end of the day, it all boils down to we do not know shit💀

[vapid turret]

Hey it's been a while saw that Illit appologise to NJZ was trending on twitter because that's all the website is good for these days, K-pop news updates.

[short laurel]

Plus now that they debuted they are under massive trainer debt. Among big 4 hybe is only one who is still running this trainer debt while other 3 got rid of it.

[ashen charm]

could hybe be the reason why danielle didnt get many apperqances with burrberry?

[short laurel]

It's ok to not like someone but i want people to speak from case by case basis. Regardless of personal feelings on mhj, u can't say that mhj didn't do her best for nj n gave them treatment rarely seen in toxic kpop culture

[vapid turret]

Guys?

[short laurel]

Idc how good or bad mhj was to others in her career. All i care is she treated nj really well.

[hoary frost]

Tbh right after mhj got kicked out as CEO I knew everything was ganna go downhill. I really wish all of this didn't happen

[ashen charm]

it was how the media portraded and how the went to drag lsfr but in fact mhj did not say any of that it was all the minpulation of the media at the time

[short laurel]

Yea

[ashen charm]

mhj for njz has did nothing but protect them regardless what she did in the past there no denying it

[short laurel]

Mhj specifically mentioned it's the management faults, artists are innocent

[tardy smelt]

it did go downhill and it was the lowest we've gone. but after the dolphiner's incident being the catalyst to termination, i say we've been on the up.

[vapid turret]

Except for Illit from what I'm seeing on twitter. One of the members literally acted like a mean girl towards Hanni.

[short laurel]

Mhj nvr blamed illit either, only belift

[vapid turret]

Well I'm not talking about MHJ it's on twitter called Illit appologize to NJZ.

[short laurel]

Again according to hanni's own words, illit did greet her back.

Twt can go n burn. It's fanwar hell + elon's bs hell

[vapid turret]

Fair point.

[tardy smelt]

if you're checking into this drama, please make the effort to find out what actually happened and form a genuine opinion around it - not someone else's interpretation. i'm sick of this hive mind fandom shit.

[silk skiff]

Is ilgan sport the only trustworthy source for this injunction rn?

[tardy smelt]

idk, i saw articles from them as the hearing was happening and it was just too early for the details to be coming out and people got confused asf

[wind monolith]

Yes

[short laurel]

Ilgan has been pro nj. Topstarnews has been neutral. Rest pro hybe. English k sites whichever sides gets more clout

[silk skiff]

Thanks for the rundown, glad to see that there’s at least someone with neutral reporting, that’s a rarity.

[short laurel]

Again when talking about lv, u must mention hybe acknowledging their fault n compensating og ador. Otherwise the comment is unvalidated.

The fact hybe was forced to acknowledge their fault in lv drama clearly shows there's more to story n nj were harmed. Even if somu's sakura's story is correct, hybe's wrong action on this is proven n should be considered everytime this topic is discussed.

[silk skiff]

Do you have a source for this lv drama? I wanna read up on it.

[short laurel]

A moment. The article is waay up here.

[short laurel]

#1231839760759263232 message

For now this. Too hard to dig up drama from last year from phone.

[tardy smelt]

tbh maybe i'm too tired rn, but i don't understand the point or what's being implied

[silk skiff]

Thanks a lot 🙏 I’ll look for the rest

[short laurel]

Full story only lv can tell us tbh.

Just focus on both sides shared the kkt. Now raises the question, how did ador has private kkt between hanni n mhj. That's another breach of privacy. Seriously hanni especially have a very strong reason for contract termination.

[craggy skiff]

Btw, did you guys meet this account under njz tiktok content ?
He lurked around and gave weird comments about haerin.
I feel disgusting when though we have the same fandom but now not thing better than finding out he is such a weirdo hater

[short laurel]

All i know is when hanni 1st talked about it. It was allkpop who instantly went illit. N allkpop is pro hybe

Rest followed after allkpop.

[short laurel]

Report

[craggy skiff]

I dont understand what ador is thinking.
They illegally use her private message to demonstrate that they performed their duty of care well in another situation.
Straight way to prove

[short laurel]

If they truely cared, they'd have focused on the part njz censored but ador didn't. The "yes yes" part

It is again nj trying to protect idols from mediaplay but hybe openly using idols as shield

[upbeat stream]

https://www.lawtimes.co.kr/news/206157

[copper jetty]

guys is it bad? is there anything that was presented that's new before i try to backread since 9 pm last night

[upbeat stream]

interesting article, worth a read

[craggy skiff]

It reveal some details but not much

[wind monolith]

So njz side have to send rzns for termination

[atomic echo]

i see what you did there

[wind monolith]

Idek what i did😭

[hollow sorrel]

if NJZ loses this injunction it only applies in South Korea no? So they can still sign with an American label for example and put out new music?

[mild mist]

Correct
the korean court only has jurisdiction within korea, so the hong kong concert should not be affected.

[waxen musk]

Only the hateful responses are what's bad after today. I think NJZ have enough proof, and the evidence Ador presented through video and text messages only confirm that NJZ have been telling the truth. That plus this new ribbon incident. I don't think Ador really presented anything new to help their case. I'm hopeful. But still there's a lot of uncertainty over how a judgement will be made.

[hollow sorrel]

So what if the reason they aren’t announcing their new agency is because they might have an international label backing them? So if they lose the injunction (which I highly doubt) they can sign with an American label and publish new music through that

[half knot]

sort of. south korean laws apply globally to all south korean citizens

[hollow sorrel]

Does that sound insane

[hollow adder]

wait did mhj v belift hearing also happen already?

[steep torrent]

pushed back

[half knot]

yes, belift side dumped a thousand pages, judge got pissed, said next time both sides are limited to 30 written submissions only, and 30 minutes powerpoint presentations. also belift wanted to focus solely on choreography, and mhj side wanted a wide breadth of covered topics. so yeah pushed back to may

[steep torrent]

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• March 14 – MHJ’s second hearing against Source Music.
• April 3 – ADOR vs. MHDHH: Exclusive contract validation trial.
• April 17 – MHJ’s second hearing for the shareholders’ agreement

NEW

• March 14 (sorry not sure) - Deadline for submission of evidence after today's (March 7) injunction hearing.
• May 2 - MHJ's third hearing against Bethief.
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[steep torrent]

someones should pin

so injunction results and contract validity would probably be the next big things to wait for right?

[heady gate]

The girls are busy with singing, dancing and language practices. Now, they have to spend extra time on their injunction cases.

[craggy owl]

It's really bad, it seems like all kpop reddit sans the newjeans sub sees Hanni as evil. I didn't wish for all of this

[wind monolith]

Reddit has always been like this its a echo chamber

[frozen granite]

Even the NewJeans sub sees Hanni as evil ?

[craggy owl]

No, I was saying that all reddit with the exception of the newjeans sub

[steep torrent]

its only the international side tho

[heady gate]

When I saw the HYPE CCTV video footage, it was dani in the video. I know the fanwar would blow up.

[frozen granite]

Oh ok honestly as long as tokkis stick together the other stuff is just side noise. They already hated hanni since she showed up during court. Honestly this will only minimize once the court gives their ruling. This was getting to me last night, but at this point there’s nothing you can do or say to the other fandoms.

[craggy owl]

So I hear. But how come that ALL other international fandoms seem to be anti NJ? It's depressing

[ancient sable]

the misinformation is A LOT on tiktok. im so disappointed. no one is even taking the initiative to look at verified sources

[wind monolith]

Its mainly 3 fandoms and armys have a big fandom so its bound to happen

[craggy owl]

Yeah, I read that the clip showed a different scene. Is there a reputable source where I can read an objective summary of all facts so far?

[steep torrent]

armys, glitts and fearnots have been anti nj since the beginning

[craggy owl]

Yeah, maybe I got the wrong impression

[ancient sable]

army’s in general don’t like girl groups, i have no idea why but they seem to keep up with everyone BUT their own favs

[steep torrent]

fearnots going as far as using hanni and yunjins friendship to hate on her

[twin cypress]

btScum are just loud and wrong and have a sense of entitlement because “bts paved the way” and most other fandoms try to suck up to them because they are so annoying and persistent that they don’t want a fanwar against them so that’s pretty much why it seems internationally njz is hated

[steep torrent]

*x -c https://x.com/njzyssz/status/1898054543729885320?s=46

this is funny tho

[harsh dove]

@njzyssz <t:1741366442:d>

tokkis are not kidding😭

[steep torrent]

glitts spreading the most misinformation rn

[ancient sable]

yup, especially on tiktok

[steep torrent]

*x -c https://x.com/everywonblink/status/1897993125882478710?s=46

[craggy owl]

Are these anti nj accounts?

[harsh dove]

@everywonblink <t:1741351798:d>

YOU don't have any shame left?? YOU are the one who's spreading misinformation. Wtf do you mean by "if you have an issue with misinformation"???

[twin cypress]

I also think most “glitts” are just bts fans token stanning them to hate on njz lol

[steep torrent]

if you have an issue with the misinfo go to the article not me who is spreading it

[steep torrent]

yea

[craggy owl]

OK

[frozen granite]

Wait are glitz desactivating their twitter? Why?

[steep torrent]

they're getting called out for posting misinformation and tokkis are reporting

[cerulean lake]

why am i getting reddit notifs still 😵‍💫 just got one saying we need to admit hanni is a mean girl 🫠

[ancient sable]

everyone on reddit is a loser. they just have something against njz personally

[cerulean lake]

the fact they’re probably all middle aged ppl is scary too

[frozen granite]

Seems that another fandom is hating on illit.

[ancient sable]

yeah i noticed even on twt its a bunch of older people hating on the girls.

[frozen granite]

HYBE is truly evil. They don’t care about their artists at all

[ancient sable]

and i don’t get how the other fandoms could defend hybe when their favs could easily be next

[thorny knot]

*tt https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8228k7X/

[harsh dove]

:warning: TikTok Error: TikTok slideshows are not supported

[cerulean lake]

??

[frozen granite]

I don’t want to name drop a group, but it’s under their IG

[cerulean lake]

really? i don’t really go on ig much 😓

[frozen granite]

Honestly the less you use any social media to keep up with kpop the better. I refrained to using discord only to keep up with NJZ

[cerulean lake]

true. i also don’t keep up with illit and their socials so idk what fandom is after them now. i don’t even wanna open up njz’s ig rn, good thing they closed their comments

gosh i hate reddit literally wanna blow up those subs

[red thorn]

Reddit is pro-company turf, maybe pr work really in the play

[cerulean lake]

not surprised if they use those pr bots for other sites. it’s just that it’s working on reddit the best (but at the same time, those ppl on reddit have always been strange, so i can’t even blame it all on bots)

literally encountered one when they first opened their new acc on ig. that acc called them like “greedyjins” when they asked for name suggestions and when i looked at their acc, they had 0 posts, followers, and following. also, when i said “spotted a tag pr bot” under their comment, it literally disappeared 🫠🧐

[atomic echo]

🎷🐛

[brave stone]

People are gonna hate no matter what happens in court, to both NJZ and ILLIT, and checking comments on Twt and ig is like a death wish honestly 💔

[cerulean lake]

i would avoid reddit the most. that place is actually infuriating

[knotty valve]

Yeah they constantly keep making posts about the girls or Hanni and it’s all to drive comments to just bring hate on them, literally try to comment anything to support them and you’d just be downvoted to hell and get comments saying the girls brought this on themselves or whatever.

[craggy owl]

What about the chat they showed? Does it really say that it was actually not that big of a deal for Hanni?

[wind monolith]

https://njb-jj.notion.site/250307-ILGAN-SPORTS-Did-an-I-member-disrespect-Hanni-Did-ADOR-reveal-this-Jeon-Hyung-hwa-s-1af1279fe54e80c69778dbf48d9be670

this has screenshots of the entire text

[craggy owl]

Thank you very much! That was interesting to read.
So the chat excerpts do not seem to contradict the incident as told by Hanni. But I just fear that how Hanni acted in the NA can be now used against her, because, honestly, her crying there does not match what she wrote in those chats?

[wind monolith]

Her crying was not only bcz of the incident its bcz of everything the have gone thru

[craggy owl]

That I would understand, yeah

I hope she knows what she's doing and that she's doing it of her own accord, and not because MHJ alone instigated her to do it.

[frozen granite]

I just fear this is dividing tokkis idc much about the fanwars.

[half knot]

okay so something that has been bothering me. this I believe is from ador's disclosure or at least the stuff spread on news media. it has the part that says "I can't remember the exact words..."

but this is from ador's full text disclosure, which has that little bit single message missing.

why? it's possible ador's using the content from their latest kakaotalk backups rather than what ador had access to early on? why did ador have access to all these mhj text messages even into May 2024?

you can see it in this translation as well, the first screenshot translations vs. the second one from NJZ side. it's missing that one message. https://njb-jj.notion.site/250307-ILGAN-SPORTS-Did-an-I-member-disrespect-Hanni-Did-ADOR-reveal-this-Jeon-Hyung-hwa-s-1af1279fe54e80c69778dbf48d9be670

but at least NJZ side disclosure had blacked out the part about ILLIT member.

[thorny knot]

ok but where tf did they get the info in the article that hanni was with dani, cause hanni has said repeatedly that she was alone

[half knot]

I don't know anything about that, but njz laywers sharing the exact same messages without that bit that ador has doesn't necessarily look good.

not sure it'll make any difference though, but it's a sore thumb sticking out.

[thorny knot]

like huh

[half knot]

yeah the event hanni was referring to is either the day after this CCTV footage, OR it happened at a later time that day when the ILLIT members and their manager were returning from the 4th floor and going back to the elevator.

[thorny knot]

yeah just from the part where they say dani was there i already don't trust this article there are def some discrepancies through out it

cause if dani was there then dani would've had to shown up to the same hearing at the national assembly as hanni, as she'd also be a victim of it too

like that alone raises red flags about the facts in this article

100% some misinformation being spread in the article

at this point ima just wait for tally's video on it

[weak relic]

https://www.instagramez.com/p/DG5BgtRO8uN/?igsh=MWo5OGhmdG9jdTBnYg==

[midnight yarrow]

The dialogue about the Hanni/manager interaction is being discussed so disingenuously. It was NEVER just about hearing a manager telling a group to ignore her. It was about the implications of that behavior being normalized inside the company and all her peers and HYBE staff ostracizing and mistreating the members. Not just her. It was always just given as an EXAMPLE of what she was afraid would become the norm

But HYBE stans won't allow any of that context and nuance into the conversation and think she's just crying about being ignored. It's all so stupid.

[frozen granite]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2CVrAGy/

[cerulean lake]

Exactly my point too. I don’t know why people think they’re doing all of this because someone didn’t greet them back. It’s more related to the subtle micro-aggressions that they face in that company and also the fact that they feel ostracized from their peers because of MHJ’s conflict with HYBE. This along with other things led to them feeling like their trust with Ador and Hybe has been broken.

I swear people cannot understand contextual reasoning/nuance and it’s literally infuriating to see how people just downplay their whole termination because they think she’s being petty over a simple greeting. (Plus, let’s not act like those fandoms complaining about Nwjns are the same ones who would trend week-long hashtags and go on a manhunt because some idol from another group didn’t bow to them.)

[midnight zodiac]

I’m not surprised because from what I can tell. Most people online don’t think and reason. They just repeat info they hear

[half knot]

most people online are bots nowadays
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory

[midnight zodiac]

Even more reason it’s just repetitive stuff

Most people don’t really have time to look into things deeply so they just assume whatever is popular or whatever gets the most engagement is the right thing and go with that. And then overall they don’t want to admit they’re wrong so they just double down instead

[red thorn]

Discovery? Where both parties exchange documents/evidence

[thorny knot]

💀 sniper created a new account

[frozen granite]

what? How do you know?

[thorny knot]

i saw his post under new jeans trending tag on twitter

[pulsar wasp]

despite what’s happening on kpop-X rn, the expressions they had leaving the courthouse gives me solace

[frozen granite]

Maybe it’s a wannabe sniper? I feel like people are trying to take their place lol

[thorny knot]

regardless if it is or not we don't need him or anyone like him

they're pfp was of minju too like leave her out of it

[frozen granite]

Yeah just report it then … no amount of bickering will make them see our side tbf I just need the judge to legally validate NJZ stance so this can sort of die down

[thorny knot]

already did

[frozen granite]

My main concern is having tokkis stick together … this footage has caused some division on tiktok is insane sigh

[thorny knot]

*x -c https://x.com/talytokki/status/1897905766129959219

[harsh dove]

@talytokki <t:1741330970:d>

The footage that Ador shared is NOT the same footage Hanni referred to during NewJeans’ YouTube livestream in September.

This was confirmed by NJZ’s parents in an interview with Ilgan Sports back in October.

HYBE has known this for MONTHS. But once again, they decided to use their girl group as a shield to provoke unnecessary fanwars.

[split bramble]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1898165622737084653

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

At the end of the trial, the judge asked if the NJZ members had anything they wanted to say. One by one, they stepped forward and delivered their prepared statements.

First, Haerin spoke: "Seeing HYBE and other labels undermine our achievements and damage our image, while ADOR

X · Mar 8, 2025, 12:15 AM

reading the whole excerpt broke me a little, these girls endured so much

[novel pebble]

I hate Fregend

Just posting kpop "news" without research to make himself feel relevant to kpop

[waxen musk]

*tt https://www.tiktok.com/@talytokki/video/7479230266788039982

[harsh dove]

@talytokki

[waxen musk]

Taly does a great job explaining the text messages situation. More videos to come.

[cerulean lake]

that guy has done weird stuff in the past too especially with chaewon

[cerulean lake]

ugh i can’t with tiktok stans. they’re so gullible and leap on whatever misinfo they have

[frozen granite]

Taly is the only tokki with a good following spreading accurate info. Let’s support her.

[thorny knot]

honestly if i'm hanni's legal team or family, i would prepare a defamation lawsuit against ador and hybe

cause well this is the perfect example of defamation

[frozen granite]

Antis are complaining why hanni didn’t say anything during court if she had a lot to say towards HYBE. Hmm what’s a good response for that?

[red thorn]

Welp if it's discussion with antis there will be no point, won't change their mind

[hot girder]

It's literally court. You can't just say whatever