NJZ Updates and Discussion

[tall dew]

[hushed whale]

[cinder narwhal]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1897805762287878594

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1741307127:d>

"Trust Relationship Collapsed"… NJZ (뉴진스) Fandom Releases Global Petition Ahead of First Hearing
https://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=15611650
TopStarNews Reporter Oh Se-rin

The fandom of NJZ (NewJeans) has released a global petition.

On the 6th, the NJZ fandom issued a petition stating, "By replacing internal supporters who had the capability to bring out NewJeans’ talent and skills, they have been left isolated and without support."

The fandom pointed out, "Although executive replacements may be unrelated to the artists' opinions, it is highly unusual to replace an entire executive team—not as a natural or minor personnel change but by replacing them all with HYBE officials who have a hostile relationship with the artists."

They continued, "Not only was former CEO Min Hee-jin removed, but the entire management team of ADOR was replaced, suggesting a malicious intent to sideline NewJeans." The petition further argued, "If the company that the artists originally signed with has been entirely transformed into something different from what they recognized at the time of their exclusive contract, it means that the nature of the contract, which is based on mutual trust, has already been rendered ineffective."

The fandom asserted, "The current ADOR is a completely different company from the one that initially signed the exclusive contracts—it is no longer trustworthy but rather a company that poses a threat. In this situation, the members tried to restore a trusting relationship, but ADOR’s response, as seen in the media, disregarded their stance and concerns, instead unilaterally imposing its own position."

Regarding ADOR's loss of trust from the members, the fandom emphasized, "It seems impossible to expect management and entertainment activities to continue based on mutual trust. The trust relationship has already collapsed to the point where maintaining the contractual relationship

[cinder narwhal]

lol is this what the petition said

[upbeat stream]

It's a very long petition, this is part of it yeah

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/luenacore/status/1897713795197456796

luna ୨ৎ (@luenacore) on X

𝙄𝙢𝙥𝙤𝙧𝙩𝙖𝙣𝙩 𝙉𝙤𝙩𝙚𝙨 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙉𝙅𝙕 & 𝘼𝘿𝙊𝙍'𝙨 𝙃𝙚𝙖𝙧𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙏𝙤𝙙𝙖𝙮 (7/3/25) 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙐𝙥𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙋𝙧𝙤𝙘𝙚𝙚𝙙𝙞𝙣𝙜𝙨

1. ADOR Must Prove Its Case in Court
• Under the South Korean civil law, a contract is terminated as soon as one party notifies the

X · Mar 6, 2025, 6:20 PM

[waxen musk]

Hoping for the best outcome.

[vale dagger]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[waxen musk]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003417949

The group New Jeans (NJZ) appeared in person at the first hearing.

The five members of New Jeans (NJZ) visited the Seoul Central District Court at around 10 am on the 7th with somewhat stern expressions. The members came dressed in matching black outfits, and Hani even smiled lightly at the reporters.

[unborn arrow]

hoping for the best

[waxen musk]

I hope this is secretly BSH's funeral and that's why they're dressed in black.

[hushed whale]

[vale dagger]

Lets go NJZ

[cinder verge]

guys wtf is happening i been busy with life pls explain

[frozen granite]

My girls are going to slay that pig !!!!

[stoic heron]

they should be dressed in rainbow themed clothes if that was the case

[steep torrent]

I havent been this nervous since when this first started

[waxen musk]

Yeah it really hit me seeing their photos just now.

Seems like the discussion is split between the main chat and this thread.

[cinder verge]

is this the injunction to determine validity of their contract termination? ive been living under a rock guys please 🙏

[waxen musk]

It's to stop all advertising and entertainment activities.

Contract validity is the main lawsuit starting at a later date.

[cinder verge]

ah ok thx

[upbeat stream]

Bro I imagined them attending but then dismissed the idea

[jolly junco]

why am i nervous?? i shouldnt be this nervous

“We believe we will win this battle against Hybe and Ador.”

Danielle Marsh

[vale dagger]

FIGHTING NJZ

[fleet nebula]

[waxen musk]

I'm surprised we didn't find out about their new agency before this court hearing. Considering the above, it seems plausible the court might find out today.

[sly python]

so they are with a new agency?

[upbeat stream]

They probably haven't signed a contract formally

[waxen musk]

Hyein said don't worry about it. But we don't know anything.

[cinder narwhal]

that meant ador staff members not nj members lol

[upbeat stream]

And are operating like an independent artist, they have their former ador staff anyway

[waxen musk]

We can't assume anything.

[sly python]

Lawyer Hyein has spoken!

[waxen musk]

I wonder how much will be revealed that is currently unknown that we'll hear about today.

I remember the National Assembly hearing Hanni attended was somewhat disappointing because of nothing new being discussed at the time, despite us all expecting more because of what they hinted at in their old live stream.

[copper current]

where is the petition link? Someone sent to me please

[waxen musk]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe6Nt6js08RoU4ndbBhp-xzXWIAHxoJVmNvFD19J_fbwBhjNQ/viewform

[jolly junco]

i'm guessing the media will spin whatever discussed in court, and then NJZ PR will refute by revealing the truth of what happened in court

[midnight zodiac]

Are the parents there too?

[kindred estuary]

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1897826734558654889

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

(250307)
ILGAN SPORTS
ADOR CEO Kim Joo-young Reconfronts with NewJeans (NJZ) in Court... with a Stern Expression
Reporter Kim Ji-hye
https://t.co/vJ3Pn5VtGL

X · Mar 7, 2025, 1:48 AM

[stone grotto]

dressed in all black, i love it. hybe's funeral

[upbeat stream]

Expect more neutral write-ups from ilgan and starnews

[craggy skiff]

Lmao. The thumbnail 🤣

[midnight zodiac]

Can we have an international news reporter there?

[jolly junco]

dont worry i trust @cinder narwhal will share news once she has it

[kindred estuary]

at least our eyes are safe

[tardy smelt]

oh good, updates as we go, like last time

[jolly junco]

lets wait until we hear from NJZ side

[frozen granite]

This all sounds nice on paper, but only the members know the truth

[stable escarp]

How will this injunction impact the main lawsuit?

[midnight zodiac]

I like how they said “there is no interference with their activities”

[tardy smelt]

we'll get a better answer after the hearing ends today

[upbeat stream]

The main lawsuit takes forever, this injunction matters 100x more

[jolly junco]

damn this is gonna get fanwars going again

[steep torrent]

mediaplay coming

[midnight zodiac]

It’s kinda expected. Can’t really talk about being unfair without bringing up the other groups involved

[runic granite]

holyy they had 16 million dollars for their debut???

[steep torrent]

regarding the brand thing tho it was pretty vague before but now its better explained I guess

[tardy smelt]

yeah... gotta stay off socials today lol

[sage venture]

don't forget they also tried to steal the Apple event More will come

[hushed whale]

ye fanwars are unavoidable. they will use any argument to strengthen their case

[knotty valve]

Reddit mega thread gonna go ballistic lol

[steep torrent]

adors defense sounds exactly like armies

[frozen granite]

I’m scared guys

[midnight zodiac]

I feel like fanwars are always around so I just avoid those accounts

[hushed whale]

this included the cost to establish ador i think

[craggy skiff]

Lmao. They keep barking all the time. No matter this media play or not, hatter still hate

[midnight zodiac]

I mean even if there’s nothing really haters will come up with something

[jolly junco]

yeah i'm not going to dive into any social media

will just wait for update from this chanel

[upbeat stream]

https://www.starnewskorea.com/stview.php?no=2025030711002826884

oh boy, the fanwars gonna go crazy

[heady gate]

The fan wars persist despite the count result.

[runic granite]

R.I.P to all the soldiers who are lost in the amount of fan wars that is about to take place 😭 🙏

[copper current]

I am ready for it, we are right, why we are scared, thieves should be scared

[tawdry vessel]

dont act too nice, fight back

[frozen granite]

Is the injunction is going on?

[jolly junco]

yeah still on going

[midnight zodiac]

I feel like us being scared says something about how corrupt things are

[fleet nebula]

No fear, only trust

[copper current]

thieves want us to be scared, they want to threaten so they can mug you more, you have to fight back so they can't steal

[upbeat stream]

Looks like ador didn't have much to say, most of the statement are from njz's team

[craggy skiff]

Maybe its their time

[cinder narwhal]

yeah also nothing new. cmon judge

[hoary frost]

Im going crazy

[jolly junco]

the waiting game is killing me

[upbeat stream]

I need to know if it's the same judge or not

[midnight zodiac]

Gonna watch the entire bunnies camp and come back. Hopefully will get a good result after

[sage venture]

the injunction was filed by FRAUDOR, but it looks like njz has more to say lol

[cerulean lake]

they lowkey paid that off like soon after they debuted tho so idk why they’re so stuck on that point especially when mhj was in charge during that time

[marble cape]

wait are we getting updates from the hearing?

[upbeat stream]

Yes

[cerulean lake]

i wish there was some whistleblower that provided evidence that hybe media played against them. that would totally be breach of trust right away

[marble cape]

like from where tho?

[upbeat stream]

Mainly starnews and ilgan sports

[marble cape]

those are the good and reliable ones right?

[upbeat stream]

Yeah, ilgan is pro-njz while starnews is mostly neutral

[craggy skiff]

I hope they leak some evidence

[copper current]

pray for some leaked evidence, I have always prayed one day the video of Hanni being ignored is posted on Internet

[craggy skiff]

Getting tired bcs hybe lapdog keeps saying the girls make up story

[steep torrent]

it is

[south vale]

difficult,hybe alr deleted it

[marble cape]

anyone know when we’ll hear the end of the hearing?

[cinder narwhal]

💀

[steep torrent]

adors defense is actually so funny man like why are they bringing up tiktok challenges

[upbeat stream]

something new

[steep torrent]

wow

[south vale]

Wtf?

[cinder narwhal]

someone send a pic of it to refresh us

[upbeat stream]

I haven't seen it anywhere

[sage venture]

so petty and shady lol

[hushed whale]

yo crazy

[marble cape]

didn’t they post the ribbons on IG story aswell?

[steel depot]

what kind of mind does this hybe have such a nut brain

[hushed whale]

ye they posted a story

[south vale]

bro,this was out of human morality 💀

[craggy skiff]

They did it by themself.
Ador said no need but others group actually prepare some ribbon

[split bramble]

what did they say lol

[steep torrent]

where is this from?

[steep torrent]

nvm found it

[frozen granite]

When is the injunction going to end ?

[sage venture]

looks like all other HYBE artists had the same ribbon except for NJZ That’s pretty sinister

[steep torrent]

https://x.com/haerin1st/status/1897818237988987022?s=46

✿ (@haerin1st) on X

The 50th Civil Division of the Seoul Central District Court (Presiding Judge Kim Sang-hoon) is the same division that handled the provisional disposition cases in May and October of last year. The court, having a thorough understanding of the case’s merits

X · Mar 7, 2025, 1:15 AM

[cinder narwhal]

I'm busy with work so pls send translations when there's something new

[upbeat stream]

Do I share bad ones too?

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/catztokki/status/1897841799055786031

[narrow seal]

250307 🐰 (@​catztokki) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/catztokki/status/1897841799055786031
HYBE tried to harm NJZ by not allowing NJZ to use memorial ribbons but Hanni was alert and immediately made the ribbons after she confirmed with the Japan Broadcast side that there was no problem.

[copper current]

Sharp sharp Hanni 👍 ❤️

[steep torrent]

https://x.com/haerinthequeenn/status/1897832012167496013?s=46

NJZ Enthusiast (@haerinthequeenn) on X

Ador’s defense is out

X · Mar 7, 2025, 2:09 AM

[vale dagger]

Nice hanni

[waxen musk]

I'm frustrated that all that's been discussed so far is the same old stuff we already knew and this ribbon incident seems so minor in terms of significance in this case.

[jolly junco]

Wtf!!!

[split bramble]

its not minor for korea

[upbeat stream]

I debated whether to share this or not

[split bramble]

averted career ender right there, hanni built different

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1897842928711877030

[narrow seal]

250307 Cake🍀 (@​CakeDegg) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1897842928711877030
HYBE prevented NJZ from wearing black ribbons on a Japanese show, yet they prominently featured in the newspapers that their other groups wore black ribbons

[cerulean lake]

why are they acting like they didn’t harass those employees that worked for nwjns?

[frozen granite]

Wait what ?

[sage venture]

That’s just a microcosm of what HYBE has been doing all along They’re always looking for opportunities to sabotage from within

[split bramble]

they're trying to frame hanni as liar, and later in the main lawsuit they gonna argue there's no breach of trust?

[frozen granite]

So this is false right ??

[split bramble]

its when they were shown a different video after already deleting video of the actual incident

[upbeat stream]

Hanni said in the yt live that they greeted each other anyway. Remember

[craggy skiff]

Emphasized
no one have any footage and could say anything they want

[cinder narwhal]

rip

[steep torrent]

yeah, but where did the manager told the members to ignore her come from? i don't remember.

its saying hanni never said that, mhj might of blown that out of proportion idk..

wish this was livestreamed

[waxen musk]

I've honestly forgotten/mixed up the specifics of what each side has said has happened with this incident. I wonder if anyone has written down a timeline of what's been presented so far.

[hushed whale]

also cctv has no sound

[craggy skiff]

Where is the update come from?
Any link please?

[gentle badger]

It was the second time they passed by her that they were told to ignore her iirc

[upbeat stream]

from starnews and ilgan

[steep torrent]

that's stupid tho how are they gonna have footage of before the moment when they said they lost the footage up to that point

[cerulean lake]

bro this is so nervewrecking. why did this have to occur near finals season

[waxen musk]

Yes of course it is for Korea, now that I think about it Koreans would be very angry at Hybe for stopping this. However, on top of what has already been presented, this addition seems like it might not change much.

[sonic olive]

Did njz winning or not

[waxen musk]

Yeah what are they doing showing a video of them greeting each other. Did they say when this video was from? What about the deleted video? These are two separate instances, right?

[marble cape]

i think someone said we wont find out in a couple weeks?

[waxen musk]

We could found out any time from today until a few weeks from now. We will know when to expect it when after the hearing ends.

[upbeat stream]

March 23rd gotta be the deadline since the injunction seeks a ban on singing

[waxen musk]

I mean they can still sing on the 23rd and then get banned after the 23rd, right?

[steep torrent]

another 2 weeks of waiting

[sonic olive]

What happened ? Did they banned ?

[waxen musk]

We don't know that the injunction result HAS to be before the 23rd. Could still be after, is all I'm saying.

[steep torrent]

that ribbon thing is actually so evil. they gave all the hybe artists the same ribbon except for njs. they had the mediaplay ready man insane..

[waxen musk]

Yeah I initially thought of it as minor but it's just evidence of how they operate.

[wind monolith]

Is hearing done?? I just woke up

[waxen musk]

Also looks like Hanni's improvisation of the ribbon is evidenced by the difference in ribbon style between NewJeans and the Hybe groups. Hybe groups all have the traditional type of ribbon whereas NewJeans had a different shape.

[unborn arrow]

https://x.com/njzbubblegum/status/1897847264460390679

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

ADOR brought the KakaoTalk conversation between MHJ and Hanni during 'Hanni's "Ignore her" Incident' to court. How?

X · Mar 7, 2025, 3:10 AM

[cinder narwhal]

|| i think njz wins injunction but loses validity suit ||

[unborn arrow]

joke of the year

[waxen musk]

Between MHJ and Hanni?!

[vale dagger]

Huh fake massage?

[upbeat stream]

.

[jolly junco]

how??? how tf did HYBE can get their hands in someone else private chat???

[opaque torrent]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1876123733284536731

hanni and illit greeted each other. illit went somehwere. when illit came back to where hanni was waiting, belift manager said out loud to illit to ignore hanni.

the footage of the greeting was preserved. the second passing moment was deleted.

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

In June 2024, Hanni reported an incident to HYBE HR after a BELIFT LAB manager told members of ILLIT to ignore her, making sure everyone heard the command, even though Hanni and the ILLIT members were friendly and exchanged greetings just moments prior. (https://t.co/pgsqBY0MXt)

X · Jan 6, 2025, 4:28 AM

[waxen musk]

Ok, glad someone has been taking notes previously.

[opaque torrent]

know better than to trust hybe/ador please. the link to the exact timestamp where hanni recalls the incident is also in the tweet

[waxen musk]

Thank you.

[hot girder]

ADOR somehow having access to messages between hanni and mhj? lol get tf out of here

[waxen musk]

I can see Hanni saying the situation is funny in general because I doubt it made her cry or anything but it's still something that you should bring up to your boss and a great example of just weird shit going on in that Hybe building.

I just hope we hear more examples of mistreatment tbh. I feel bad for feeling like we need more, but that's how I feel.

[twin cypress]

Why they still using kakao lmao

[opaque torrent]

right like that grown ass man who solves cyber crimes with 20 year old female streamers but shuns the female artists paying his bills

[steep torrent]

its just they say the text messages says otherwise, but we haven't even seen them so they could be stitch worked like previously

[upbeat stream]

I need to hear the judges' remarks, we got some for mhj's injunction

[waxen musk]

The text messages don't actually say anything different about how the incident happened, do they? They just say Hanni didn't really care and found it funny.

If the incident still happened, which it did, it still shows an example of mistreatment, no matter how Hanni feels about it.

[twin cypress]

Hanni might’ve sold there lol

[opaque torrent]

its a microaggression but they add up

[hushed whale]

its kinda funny tho, she prob just think abt how petty the manager is

[craggy skiff]

they trying to say hanni dont mind it at first but mhj convice her to make a report to fraudor

[waxen musk]

Ofc

[upbeat stream]

It seems like only 2 journalists are actually present, everyone else seems to be regurgitating the same thing

[opaque torrent]

she doesnt want to worry mhj while mhj is planning their fanmeet and concert

[steep torrent]

this one says shes she said shes not sure idk

theres a bunch of holes

[waxen musk]

Honeslty, I can see that being the truth. Hanni might have just mentioned what happened, like "this funny thing happened" and had been SO USED to similar things happening throughout her career in that Hybe building. But then MHJ would think to do something about it because she cares.

[twin cypress]

What yall are missing is that it helps ador narrative that everything is done because mhj is forcing them and that the relationship could be saved if it weren’t for mhj.

[craggy skiff]

I agree with the idea she dont want distract mhj since her already under a lot of stress

[steep torrent]

can those messages even be used as evidence? how did they even get them

so many questions ugh

[south vale]

Was the message confirmed?

[wind monolith]

Man where is judges remarks

[stone grotto]

I don’t think without consent

[opaque torrent]

no they cannot. they're meant for the reporters/media relaying their arguments to the public

some ppl in here have already fallen for it

[waxen musk]

Yeah even if the judge says they cannot rely on that as evidence, the reports in the media have already been made. Media play.

[opaque torrent]

just like when hybe brought up the shaman stuff

[hot girder]

because they're probably fake. the only way to get those messages is from accessing the phones of either hanni or MHJ illegally

like are we believing the same company that likes to fabricate kakao chats? hello?

[steep torrent]

probably mhj

[south vale]

But how can they get those messages from them?

[dapper root]

a warrant?

[split bramble]

they took mhj's work phone last year

[stone grotto]

I love how ador is saying how their staff were the ones to thank for Newjeans success, like duh who do you think created the company and hired everyone. Now they’re all gone!

[craggy skiff]

it is around May? as I remmeber
no. its April
Hanni chat is later

[opaque torrent]

no they didn't. they only confiscated her VP's laptop

[split bramble]

damn, so how could they?

[opaque torrent]

they have her laptop from when she worked at bighit

[frozen granite]

Anything new ??

[cinder narwhal]

decision

[wind monolith]

Zyx u cant write that and wait 15 sec cuz of slowdown😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[opaque torrent]

probably fabricated. they presented fabricated text messages at the first injunction that wasn't accepted as evidence.

[hot girder]

LOL

[frozen granite]

I’m fucking scared omg

[cinder narwhal]

where is it oops sorry cooldown

[hot girder]

this is what I've been saying

[wind monolith]

😐

[vale dagger]

Any update about them again?

[stable escarp]

Whens this gonna end

[hushed whale]

its noon. lunch break ig lol

[frozen granite]

Did they lose ???? Oh please HYBE downfall we’re all praying

[steep torrent]

hybe stans trying to boil this whole thing down to "not being the first hybe gg is not mistreatment"

[craggy skiff]

I dont think they need lunch break lmao

[knotty valve]

Huh who lost?

[hot girder]

It literally just started. It's going to be a few days until we get actual results from Court

[opaque torrent]

this injunction is already over before it began. its a publicity stunt. its illegal to prohibit someone from earning a living. the judge won't go against that and will let the main lawsuit handle everything like he did with mhj's second injunction request

[steep torrent]

the one who they followed home?

[craggy skiff]

bro. stop random things. we already tense and sensitive right now

[opaque torrent]

no, the one they accuse of being mhj's right hand man; the one with the sexual harassment complaint filed against him

[frozen granite]

Girl same !!!

[upbeat stream]

Last update was half an hour ago, perhaps it's done

Don't wanna be negative but if this all, idk not very confident

[waxen musk]

Why did you write this? Oh just realised it was supposed to be a joke. Sorry didn't realise.

[cinder narwhal]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

omfg this is so funny

[wind monolith]

Nah 😭

[waxen musk]

HUUUUUUUUUUH THATS HOW KIM ENDED IT? wow
I'm actually more shocked by that than anything else

[hushed whale]

wait shes editor now? lol

[orchid field]

Me when i lie 😂

[tawdry vessel]

bitch ass liar

[sage venture]

lol

[south vale]

💀💀It looks like, describe your school.

[fleet nebula]

BRO I am dead, that's hysterical

[frozen granite]

So they didn’t decide anything today? It will be revealed another day??

[rain spade]

Guilt trippin

[wind monolith]

No one else exists at ador ☠️

[waxen musk]

What the fuck is she saying? She edits videos of them to a point where she sees them more than they do themselves????????????????????
???????????????
???????????????
???????????????
???????????????
???????????????

[wind monolith]

Obsession with ur ex☠️☠️☠️

[rain spade]

Court hearing is over I guess

[waxen musk]

I wanna see these edits. Is she doing TikTok edits?

[tardy smelt]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 all them tiktok edits made by kjy, light jeans edited by her too /s

[craggy skiff]

I wonder did njz side bring the point that mhj returned her hybe stock to take invest?
It's may be a good point to confront hybe investment claims

[south vale]

xD comedian

[cerulean lake]

not her trying to gaslight the members and the judge 😭

[frozen granite]

?!?!

[marble cape]

is kim the ceo?

[waxen musk]

Yes

[craggy skiff]

joke: she may thing if njz die by laugh to much, the problem will be resolve

[marble cape]

LOOOL 😂😂😂

[cerulean lake]

pack it up yall. all those tiktok edits we see are edited from her

[cinder narwhal]

is ezwizbit Kim jooyoung?!

[marble cape]

she needs to put the fries in the bag already 🥱

[waxen musk]

If Kim is telling the truth, then she has mental illness and is delusional. I do wonder why she still works there and her reasons to wake up in the morning. I want to know what she does on a daily basis.

[orchid field]

Frfr

[south vale]

most honest ceo

[tardy smelt]

that last sentence is crazy work lmao

[stoic heron]

that can't be true 😭

[rain spade]

Editing videos of them pepelaugh

[kindred estuary]

livestream outside the court

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDEHsWDOfcQ

[marble cape]

this is what she wants the public and the judge to see

[waxen musk]

oh shit they're speaking to the press

[cerulean lake]

but why does this case seem more like they’re discussing the validity of the termination rather than them being banned from performing. am i missing smth

[waxen musk]

So maybe she really is editing TikTok videos just for this situation and her closing statement.

[wind monolith]

So no judges remarks

[craggy skiff]

its required
hybe need claim contract is valid to ban them

[vale dagger]

What bullshit is this

[red thorn]

Daebak
Shame, Oscar just ended

[cinder narwhal]

damn someone pinged me

[orchid field]

Where are u getting this recap btw

[waxen musk]

They're replaying the talk to the press outside.

[marble cape]

oh wow they have new bodyguards?

[cerulean lake]

damn ngl i don’t feel so confident bc it seemed like a whole bunch of regurgitated stuff

[stoic heron]

omg minji looks stunning

[cinder narwhal]

I feel you

[craggy skiff]

so the press not done yet, right?

[upbeat stream]

Same I don't feel good about this at all

[waxen musk]

Yes they are. I said it's a REPLAY. It's over.

[tardy smelt]

was there nothing else besides what was posted here?

[vale dagger]

The result from this trial still no come out yet right?

[half knot]

it'll take a while

[craggy skiff]

is it too sketchy? I expect more debate.
They mostly just repeat old details.

[vale dagger]

Ah okay thx

[waxen musk]

No. We don't know when. We'll know when to expect a result soon.

[upbeat stream]

2 weeks, give or take

[half knot]

they seem done for the day

[marble cape]

anyone translate what they said?

[waxen musk]

I wanted more from this injunction. Feels like nothing has changed.

[vale dagger]

Ah okay

[south vale]

Due to this situation, I think we are not even close to done.

[waxen musk]

Well duh

[cerulean lake]

i was hoping there would be some more definitive evidence

[wind monolith]

Well we have another injunction to look forward to now😭

[hollow adder]

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1897856731134214234

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

(250307)
ILGAN SPORTS
ADOR CEO Kim Joo-young "I Watch NewJeans (NJZ) Videos Every Day"... Members, ‘Try Not to Laugh’ [WhatIS]
Reporter Kim Ji-hye
https://t.co/XlHVXADVSr

X · Mar 7, 2025, 3:47 AM

[cerulean lake]

what happened to all that stuff team bunnies was collecting? is that for their own cases they filed?

[craggy skiff]

Yes. the two new thing from this press is hanni-mhj chat and the ribbon

[zenith bane]

the Jeju memorial pins are going to get analyzed - if there is any difference between NJZ and hybe artists, Korea is gonna slam Hybe and Ador, since is not relevant to legal case and not something NJZ would need to lie about

[cerulean lake]

did the court take the texts as evidence?

too many questions 😓

[runic granite]

honestly if the choices are between paying half a billion dollars or going back to ador they should really just go back tbh, these lawsuits are going to take YEARS off of their lives and careers.. Like they should give the new management a chance im so tired of this

[ashen charm]

its not looking good

[craggy skiff]

we dont know yet. but if hybe really bring it to court, they will need to prove where they got that chat from

[hollow adder]

bro the ceo sounding like a saesang 💀

[hot girder]

what the fuck are you suggesting

[timber needle]

Their careers are over if they go back or ador, their whole team is gone and they’d have no creative freedom

[craggy skiff]

wtf are you talking about?
is it a joke, right? 🤡

[waxen musk]

lol reminds me of what people were saying months ago

[stable escarp]

An enemy has invaded 😭

[marble cape]

for who?

[runic granite]

How long are they gonna be stuck in court? I just want new music bro 😭

[jolly junco]

Did she think the judge is a 5 year old kid?

[waxen musk]

I can't say it looks good or bad because nothing has changed. Nothing has changed my opinion. Nothing has changed my understanding of how things will go.

[hollow adder]

"they should just go back to hybe" rhetoric is dead, theyre making history standing up against them and u want that progress to go to waste??

[craggy skiff]

you just affect by hybe media play. they dont really bring any new

[hoary frost]

*twt -c https://x.com/ot5tokki/status/1897855915300462971

[harsh dove]

@ot5tokki <t:1741319085:d>

BREAKING: the ceo of ador thinks she is ban heesoo

[hollow adder]

as fans , just applaud their bravery and trust the process

[marble cape]

if they go back to ador they’re gonna shelf them till they’re irrelevant

[vale dagger]

💩

[fleet nebula]

ez Ws, ador didn't present anything compelling enough to justify any win

[cerulean lake]

wait so was it on ador to prove their case? that makes a difference

[runic granite]

If they lose their main contract dispute then what happens to them?

[craggy skiff]

you really thing if they give up now, ador/hybe will forgive it?
what a dream

[fleet nebula]

yup

[cerulean lake]

they just have to pay but it’ll probably be adjusted to a reasonable amt

[steel depot]

so hybe wasted everyone's time again

[cinder narwhal]

I love husky voice girls 😻

https://isplus.com/data/isp/image/2025/03/07/isp20250307000094.jpg

[half knot]

assuming it is legitimate given it was presented as evidence in court, why does ador have a text message exchange between hanni and MHJ dating to summer of 2024?

[wind monolith]

Also the text messeges we dont know if they r real, if u guys rmbmr mhj first injunction hybe gave text messages that were later rejected as evidence later

[split bramble]

judge will set a realistic penalty to pay, no half billion bs, and you can keep it stuck in appeal cycle for a solid decade by that point hybe wont exist anyway

[narrow seal]

250307 . (@​NJZBUBBLEGUM) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1897858563370013141
🧸: I believe we have conveyed everything about what we have experienced well. All the points we discussed earlier are important.

[ashen charm]

ador njz case is real and they have a good chance ador just look pathetic

[craggy skiff]

no. people still know her existence as bsh play with his wig

[steel reef]

NJZ will win. Even their sponsors got their backs. They’ll pay whatever fees and make it back easily

[marble cape]

oh u said its looking bad with no context lool

[cerulean lake]

bro mhj’s lawyers were so good for her 1st case 😭 i wish they have some good ass lawyers like them

[runic granite]

Ador wants to work with them because they make a lot of money 😭 If they lose their lawsuits then they might have to be attached to hybe for the rest of their lives and will have to pay a percentage of their earnings to them

[waxen musk]

They seem confident to me. Lets be confident too.
https://x.com/MINJ1BEAR/status/1897858773999300876

alex. 🧸 (@MINJ1BEAR) on X

winning the injunction AND the idgaf war I KNOW THAT’S RIGHT ‼️

X · Mar 7, 2025, 3:56 AM

[half knot]

there's no chance in hell any judge would approve of such a massive penalty anyway, it'll get reduced significantly even if it came down to paying

we're coming up on one year and still nothing from the 2-3 different police complaints hybe had made against MHJ either.

[ashen charm]

yeah mb

[raven kelp]

why is there a sudden talk about penalty? what happened?

[craggy skiff]

" they might have to be attached to hybe for the rest of their lives"
NO they wont

the only thing is they will need to pay

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1897858350089724225

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

ador's argument so far:

1. hybe invested 21 billion krw to njz so njz success must be credited to hybe
2. hanni took the "ignoring" incident lightly
3. mhj was behind the actions of njz
4. KMJ (ador ceo) "i watch njz video every day"
5. KMJ "i really want to work with you"

X · Mar 7, 2025, 3:54 AM

[upbeat stream]

Did the judge really make no remarks at all? That's annoying, we got his statements during mhj's trials

[half knot]

not on the first day

there were some back and forth with the laywers over the evidence eventually though, I think this is actually the same judge, no?

[split bramble]

when is the next date of injunction hearing?

[half knot]

do they just have that one judge in seoul? 😄

[craggy skiff]

The only thing ador give them if they back is infinitive tour to make money.
Dont expect any good music from hybe then.

[upbeat stream]

We did, he asked mhj's team something about procure clauses

[marble cape]

the ceo knew that w.e evidence they had today wasn’t good enough so she said allat to try to persuade the public and the judge 😂

[runic granite]

They used 16 million dollars to debut from hybe... They continue using all of the success that the 16 million dollars got them.. All of the promotions which made them popular 😭 I just cant see this going well for them

[ashen charm]

i watch njz video everyday

[knotty valve]

She just like me fr lmao

[steel reef]

Why would they invest that much money and then blackball them.

[half knot]

to be fair the money was invested into ador not into newjeans directly

[craggy skiff]

wow. I want to debate because what you say is bullshjt but guest that just another bot as always

[ashen charm]

the ceo of ador thinks she is ban heesoo FRAME THIS

[half knot]

a significant portion of that was for the phoning app and the weverse company backend, which eventually came out as weverse DM for other artists on weverse

[half knot]

https://kbizoom.com/hybe-spent-16-1-billion-won-on-newjeans-created-a-whole-new-app-for-the-group/

[wind monolith]

Do we know what time mhj injunction is

[vale dagger]

I see and hear the members faces more than the members themselves while editing their videos every day 💩

[half knot]

remember hybe is a gaming and tech company wannabe, and tech companies love wasting money on things and pretending it did something

[runic granite]

im not lying 😭 dont attack me bro

[ashen charm]

when ador loses i say they should give phoning to njz and keep paying for it

[waxen musk]

Well if you put it like that... 💀

[half knot]

wait, this number was 5 billion back in MARCH 2024

so they haven't paid newjeans member anything since then.

[marble cape]

have yall notice every time some court shit happens these types of ppl pop up?

[half knot]

all of 2024 activities done for free?

[split bramble]

https://vxtwitter.com/breadsaz/status/1897858701379486059

we know what the topic of laughter is lmao

[wind monolith]

Their laughing and giggling, while we r stressing. Lets all take a chill pill

[runic granite]

dont they still get royalties from streams atleast?

[half knot]

the company has to actually pay them that

[split bramble]

exactly

[half knot]

it's not automatic, the royalties only go automatically to the songwriters.

[craggy skiff]

first, did you know how much njz bring to the company from that 21 bil?(as I remmember, it is 16)
next, when you bring a lot of money to company, isn't it normal to pay you more?

[ocean arch]

The ribbons do look different

[craggy skiff]

they are investing, not giving away. the girls get what they deserve and don't have to be beholden to anyone

[half knot]

I don't know if the ribbon thing will win them anything though, since it was after contract termination anyway

[ashen charm]

we need to meme this omg

[half knot]

we all are CEOs of ador now

[waxen musk]

I wanna see these edits so bad

[raven kelp]

who is she? jimjin? or sm

[runic granite]

well yes the girls got paid well they are millionaires

[craggy skiff]

it would be count if they have some evidence, I guess?

[half knot]

I also remember only 16 billion, as I linked a little earlier

[ocean arch]

ador hadn't accepted the termination and told them not to wear ribbons then I think it's sabotaging

[craggy skiff]

Is paying employees a favor?
Should I be grateful for the fruits of my labor?

[wind monolith]

i forgot mhj gave 1000+ pages evidence for her injunction i wonder how that will go

[ashen charm]

you cant pull me over because im wating for newjeans they dont know of my existence

[runic granite]

Im confused are you asking because u dont know?

[half knot]

remember one of the sticking point between hybe and mhj was that mhj wanted to pay the girls in a timely manner their rightfully owed settlements (share of profits), while HYBE was angry with both the frequency of the payment, the amount of it, and the lack of delay in the payments paid to the girls...

[rain spade]

How does she hear the member's faces KekInsane

[tardy smelt]

that reminds me, she has something going on today too. i’ve heard nothing though.

[half knot]

and now if this hearing is to be believed, the girls haven't gotten new settlement at all in 2024... but we'll see.

[craggy skiff]

lmao
enough, just another pr tag bot. such a waste of time

[wind monolith]

Its later tdy idk time tho

[runic granite]

Bro some people said this lawsuits will last years.. I cant wait that long

[cinder verge]

anyone have a translation of what was asked and said here? https://x.com/updatesnewjeans/status/1897861602138796151?s=46&t=6Te6HiJlKHZpNJ8OJ7KFgg

NJZ Updates (@UpdatesNewJeans) on X

230307

#NewJeans #뉴진스 #NJZ

X · Mar 7, 2025, 4:07 AM

[knotty valve]

I hope not but it could be likely as lawsuits take freaking forever

[kindred estuary]

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1897861836089049320

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

X · Mar 7, 2025, 4:08 AM

[cinder verge]

thx

[pulsar meteor]

rejected due to relevance idk y everyone says it’s fake just because it wasn’t accepted for evidence. unless there’s something from the court you’ve seen that I haven’t, even MHJ referred to the messages as edited and out of context but never denied their reality

[cinder verge]

do we know what was said during the injunction? i need a summary of ts

[tardy smelt]

she mentioned her trainee days today? didn’t hear anything about that

[sage venture]

what's out now is not whole story so just have to wait for entire story

[waxen musk]

I feel like the reporters probably didn't convey the nuance of what was said very well.

[half knot]

apparently each of the girls also gave a short testimony in court. the hearing took 2-3 hours, so much of it hasn't come out in reporting yet (or ever)

[tardy smelt]

yeah, i was reserving judgement until we heard everything

[tardy smelt]

coolio, we wait some more

[half knot]

what we're seeing is really just the mediaplay portions that can evoke a reaction as clickbait

[cinder narwhal]

our tiktoker met her idols omggg so happy for her

[tardy smelt]

yeah, there’s a reason why they walked out confident, believe in them

[hollow adder]

whens next hearing?

[tardy smelt]

dunno yet

[rain spade]

She on call with bsh

[cerulean lake]

but like why do they bring this up bc wasn’t mhj the owner during that time? like if ador and hybe consider themselves separate, like what would that help if ador is the one trying to show that they helped nwjns?

[tardy smelt]

also is that their lawyer in front smiling? bro’s looking jolly

[hollow adder]

apparently theres mhj v belift hearing later today?

[hoary frost]

the ceo editing their own videos..
also the second sentence is so creepy. i see the members faces more than the members themselves .. ???

[half knot]

to be fair, one does not see one's own face that often, so that statement is technically correct, the best kind of correct.

[tardy smelt]

yessir, hopefully there's more sauce to that hearing

[light hornet]

Does the hearing still ongoing? Do we have a live or nah?

[vale dagger]

Bro a stalkers

[ashen charm]

bish so yeah were cooked no not the food i mean adoor also im sasaeng

[craggy skiff]

think about it again, since cgtv is valid in a month, hanni may dont want to bring more thing to mhj at this time.
but after ceo change, she still able to bring it up because cgtv still there

[sage venture]

guys once they expanded the scope of the injunction, the result was already decided Some could argue that they might be trying to get it 'rejected' rather than 'dismissed' to avoid any impact on the main lawsuit

[waxen musk]

They will let us know when to expect a result soon, right? Even if it's in 3 weeks, I hope they let us know.

[cinder narwhal]

no one sent this yet?

[half knot]

the next date likely has already been set, we just haven't heard yet

[ashen charm]

its before the complex date i believe

[waxen musk]

Nope wasn't sent yet. Thanks.

[cinder narwhal]

fuck who made dani cry

[novel pebble]

where can i watch the hearing

[waxen musk]

Hyein tearing up.

[fleet nebula]

You can't wasn't broadcast

[knotty valve]

It’s not recorded

[ashen charm]

okay the comments ate up hybe

[half knot]

danielle too, and that line is definitely going to hold true, they will not go back to ador no matter what happens

[knotty valve]

Chubby bastards is taking me out lmaooo

[waxen musk]

Yeah I wrote that before getting to the end where it says Dani teared up too.

[half knot]

there's a lot more that was said in the injunction that hasn't come out in full yet

because the korean reactions seem to indicate more than we've read so far

[waxen musk]

Yeah I'm probably only disappointed by the reporting on this, not knowing how things really went down in the court today.

[ashen charm]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-kpop-hanni-laugh-laughing-gif-10950478605333633954

[cerulean lake]

i’m mainly talking abt adors lawyers bringing up them investing money into their debut

[hushed whale]

Meanwhile, the court ordered both ADOR and NewJeans (NJZ) to submit the necessary evidence by the 14th.
so no info about the ruling date ig?

[marble cape]

dani is 21?

[hushed whale]

korean age

[half knot]

in korean age

[ashen charm]

no 19 she was born 05

[waxen musk]

Korean age, no longer used officially but people do it out of habit.

[marble cape]

wouldnt she be 20 then not 21?

[waxen musk]

She's 21 Korean age, 19 international age, 20 in April.

It's like the transition here in the UK from imperial to metric. People still use imperial here, and the older you are the more likely you'll use it.

[short laurel]

Amount nj got fir debut are said to be on lower end compared to other hybe groups btw

[tardy smelt]

we might get that ruling sooner than expected

[half knot]

I expect it between 15th and 21st.

[tardy smelt]

yeah, pretty quick compared to the last two times

[half knot]

just going by past injunction requests of other idols or companies in kpop, it's usually one week at most after the submission of evidence deadline, but it can be longer

the judge will let them know I suppose, it could be after the complex con too, that might be fun

[upbeat stream]

I think that since ador has requested a ban on performance, the court will rule before the 23rd

[sage venture]

As I said there's no way to enforce that even in that case

[tardy smelt]

i doubt they'll be mulling over the decision any longer than a week after that deadline with what we've learnt, doesn't seem too complicated and they're familiar with the case

[runic granite]

Is complex con still happening ? What happens if there is no ruling

[upbeat stream]

I know but it's still a logical deadline from the court's pov

[upbeat stream]

If there's no ruling, then they perform as expected

[tardy smelt]

if there's no ruling, then we're going to hong kong babyyy

[short laurel]

It's like ador don't understand what hanni said

[half knot]

I'll just post this one from reddit regarding the text messages, even if their origins are dubious at best to me

all the things being shared so far are AI translations

[sage venture]

If that’s the issue, FRAUDOR should have filed a lawsuit against Complex It’s up to the judge’s discretion, but I don’t think that will be a factor

[shut kelp]

honestly im not worried the girls look confident so im pretty confident they'll win this

[sage venture]

once again, it's a civil case, and no one can actually force someone to do anything

[ocean arch]

I saw the post and it already has over 400 upvotes and 100 cmt smh

[runic granite]

Crazy

[craggy skiff]

what sub?

[dapper root]

her saying i dont remember is lowkey craaaazy

[ocean arch]

Kpop uncensored

[half knot]

and now this one I posted has been deleted by mods...

[dapper root]

worst subreddit of all time

kpop redditors a fate worse than death

[jolly junco]

i'm gonna cry 😭 😭 dani words is like a knife slicing thru my heart

[sage venture]

people don't understand the concept of 'sarcasm' ?

[craggy skiff]

I dont know, feel like 3 kpop sub both trash as same

[dapper root]

every kpop sub is bad

you are on REDDIT!

[hollow adder]

reddit sucks in general

[ocean arch]

Nj sub is okay tho xD

[twin cypress]

I hope they mentioned that hybe allowed source to leak private videos of haerin and i forget who else + the medical of either Danielle or hyein and ador did nothing to remove it or call out source music

[frozen granite]

The injunction still ongoing ?

[twin cypress]

Honestly this is way more breach of trust than the hanni ignore situation

[half knot]

they might be keeping some stuff for the main, looooong lawsuit

[craggy skiff]

dang. I thought I is a single thread. Read a bump of trashtalks make me sick

[cinder narwhal]

hanni is a mean girl narrative

[hushed whale]

[craggy skiff]

they could submit more evidence later

[half knot]

best mean girl

[cinder narwhal]

||5head||

[half knot]

bullies people with her forehead

[steep torrent]

they're saying hanni said the members didn't bow to her when she literally said they did

[craggy skiff]

yes. she is so mean 😠
give me that mean girl

[half knot]

kpop reddit and the antis of NJ have had an axe to grind with hanni in particular long before this greeting incident

[tardy smelt]

*x https://x.com/TokkiLoops/status/1897871205325279473

[harsh dove]

@TokkiLoops <t:1741322730:d>

[tardy smelt]

gah damn we actually get to see the footage

[runic granite]

is this real? why is that funny?

[frozen bronze]

the proof in question

[half knot]

you would think they could afford better security cameras

[runic granite]

FR

[cinder narwhal]

wow hanni lied..

[waxen musk]

Yeah that's why I was disappointed initially. Reporters only reported on things said that were way less important than examples like this. I hope we learn everything that was said today.

[steep torrent]

is that dani in the blue jersey?

[cinder narwhal]

in blue yes

[runic granite]

1fps camera 😭

[twin cypress]

Njz should just “leak” out a mixtape on SoundCloud of throwaways for free before the injunction results to give the fans music and piss off hybe

[craggy skiff]

read this again. I just realize they just admit that. only defense that not a big problem 💀

[frozen granite]

what ?

[cinder narwhal]

I thought this was deleted though

[sage venture]

that's sarcasm

[cinder narwhal]

now it conveniently appears when it supports ador

[frozen bronze]

in case you actually dont understand

this is what ador is saying happened, while presenting text messages between hanni and mhj. theres no way to legally get hold of these without hanni or mhj giving them themselves. theyre trying to paint the picture that mhj manipulated hanni into reporting this to hybe when hanni doesnt actually care, again presenting no valid proof in any way

[midnight zodiac]

I’m back. What did I miss?

[half knot]

and are we to believe illit and hanni only ran into each other ONCE?

[steep torrent]

there is footage of when they first greeted eachother. the footage that was claimed to be deleted accidentally is when the manager said to ignore her

[runic granite]

So we will never know if its the truth or a lie by Ador?

[cinder narwhal]

ahh thanks

[sage venture]

yep that's the whole point it's so shady

[frozen bronze]

they always said this existed, hanni says the incident happened afterwards and that footage is apparently deleted

[waxen musk]

We've known that they greeted each other and that was recorded on CCTV, as shown above, for a while now. It's what happened AFTER this, where ILLIT's manager said "ignore her" that was deleted. Very convinient, I know...

[midnight yarrow]

The discourse on the incident is so dumb. Hanni NEVER said the members of ILLIT didn't exchange greetings with her. It has always been about the shady comment the manager made when they greeted each other a second time. Of which there is no footage because Belift deleted it

[upbeat stream]

Yeah they still failed to answer why this exists but the footage right after is deleted

[frozen bronze]

that doesnt really matter, you believe what you want

what matters is if ador can prove that by whatever date the court set, if they cant it will be disregarded in any decision the court makes

(but of course the media reports on this and makes people think that this is what happened)

[sage venture]

and they still showing ILLIT members greeting Hanni You get the picture

[half knot]

how the fuck is one supposed to see anything in this 1fps footage anyway, whether manager said so or not even if it wasn't deleted

[ashen charm]

Yup my thoughts exactly

[upbeat stream]

They themselves admitted it's deleted in an earlier statement

[runic granite]

ok ty

[sonic olive]

I hate watching news comment.

[cinder narwhal]

you don't hear anything?

[steep torrent]

twt is a mess even tokkis dont know this

[waxen musk]

Imagine that part we need to see wasn't deleted, I feel like even with this type of footage, maybe even seeing ILLIT's manager say "ignore her" wouldn't even be picked up visible enough to prove anything. This whole situation pisses me off.

[frozen granite]

I feel like this is going to give more ammunition to the antis sigh

[midnight yarrow]

And reddit is the most irrelevant and worthless community involved in this whole thing. Who cares what they think? They guaranteed MHJ would lose her first injunction and go to jail. How did that work out? What Korea thinks is far more important and they're all standing with NJZ

[half knot]

from the article about this: "However, the CCTV footage lacks audio, leaving the manager’s alleged “ignore” comment unverified."

[upbeat stream]

But belift themselves said it's deleted

[tardy smelt]

garbage ass security, no wonder that one guy was able to camp in the hybe building for 3 days or smth without being noticed (idek if that's true)

[frozen bronze]

ador has been dragging this part so hard because you can ridicule it easily into "hanni cries that she got ignored once". see it all the time by haters saying that shes entitled and what not, its just prime media play opportunity

[brazen ice]

I remember hanni saying that she was showed a cctv footage of her with another member, and she said it was the incorrect one because at the time of the incident she was alone. Im guessing it was that one?

[cinder narwhal]

find kim jooyoung channel I wanna see her edits

[steep torrent]

so dumb man
https://x.com/uinv_5/status/1897865356410040755?s=46

✨ (@uinv_5) on X

The video in which Hanni claimed that ILLIT members were instructed to ignore her was shown, but it clearly revealed that they had greeted her with respect. After watching it, Hanni simply said, “I don’t remember,” then turned to Danielle and smiled in a strange way.

X · Mar 7, 2025, 4:22 AM

[half knot]

Are redditors and antis being purposefully obtuse? (yes), like she said she didn't care just found it funny, now imagine that in Hanni's voice, it's pure sarcasm trying to move on from it emotionally

not that she didn't actually care smh

[ashen charm]

Hanni lied

[steep torrent]

its like they just joined in on this.. the footage is deleted, belift themselves said it this footage is just proving hanni right. that they greeted eachother BEFORE the incident

[half knot]

it's actually true, here's the article: https://www.donga.com/news/Society/article/all/20240912/130036438/1

[drowsy crypt]

Wait the minute, ador releasing this
||https://fixupx.com/tokkiloops/status/1897871205325279473?s=46||

[tardy smelt]

hey, if we can find an edit and she actually cooked, i might forgive her

[rain spade]

Company so rich cant afford a good camera

[sage venture]

this video doesn't mean anything since it's not the part Hanni said

[runic granite]

I thought there was no CCTV footage because it gets deleted automatically

[steep torrent]

but also they are not making it clear whether this is them first greeting or afterwards

[half knot]

it doesn't have audio anyway so it is a moot point, and the quality is worse than 140p.

[ashen charm]

Temu camera are better than that 1fps ahhh camera

[half knot]

also yeah didn't they say the footage was gone?

[frozen bronze]

oh no no, only the part a few minutes later got automatically deleted of course

[tardy smelt]

where is hanni in this video btw? ain't that dani? am i blind?

[stiff prairie]

guys so before i start backreading, did we cook or are we cooked?

[rain spade]

Can't even identified anny person

[hushed whale]

ye they said it gone bc of 30 days

[runic granite]

Was that confirmed?

[brazen ice]

Im gonna assume they used that footage to say that the illit members do greet njz

[frozen bronze]

thats what ador said

[sage venture]

Just showing this video proves that they're trying to hide something

[ashen charm]

Hanni

[runic granite]

thats so confusing 😭

[frozen bronze]

because they are lying

[half knot]

hanni never said they didn't, hanni even said they greeted each other back in their livestream video thing

[tardy smelt]

oh mb, how could i miss the bob 😭

[short laurel]

We heard this from ador, not hanni. Did hanni even confirm this ?

[half knot]

a lego figure has more identifying characteristics than this

[hushed whale]

hanni on the right against the wall

[frozen bronze]

thats what a reporter said hanni said in the court itself today

[waxen musk]

No it's what a reporter said Ador said Hanni said.

[frozen bronze]

ohh ok my bad this is getting confusing

[half knot]

no no, the reporter said ador said hanni said this in a text message they pulled out of the air

[ashen charm]

This was the outfit she had on

[steep torrent]

this is coming from "text messages" they say

[waxen musk]

Yeah everyone's confused. I wish all this extra "evidence" that is IRRELEVANT didn't get brought up today, it's making things worse.

[half knot]

this is hearsay cubed

[hollow adder]

so around august time if my memory is correct

[shut kelp]

oh shit they actually released it

[waxen musk]

May

[sage venture]

that's a typical victim's response, just trying not to make a big deal out of it

[hollow adder]

nvm my memory sucks

[twin cypress]

I mean tokkis are dooming because nothing new was presented and I guess ador showed mhj texts that show hanni didn’t care about the ignore situation but they also don’t consider ador didn’t present anything new that proves they were going to do anything instantly to continue newjeans schedules past the things mhj planned which i guess is a W for newjeans because it still means ador cancelled a Halloween comeback, December album, and world tour + planned to put them on hiatus

[shut kelp]

i thought it was deleted tho 🤔

[leaden stream]

and FUCK hanni

[sage venture]

lol here it is

[hushed whale]

[frozen bronze]

1 new thing about the black ribbons that hybe tried to set nj up with, and ador somehow got private messages between hanni and mhj talking about the ignore incident

[hot girder]

y'all what's this I just found lol

[hollow adder]

barking up the wrong tree

[wind monolith]

Keep whining bitch

[leaden stream]

@dapper root can you ban me

[steep torrent]

please tell us what she lied about

[shut kelp]

lol what?

[frozen granite]

Oh an anti

[cerulean lake]

rat crawled in 🤣

[raven kelp]

dispatch stalking hanni

[hollow adder]

oh wtff

[steep torrent]

*mhj

[cerulean lake]

blud this is old from last year

[raven kelp]

just leave

[short laurel]

Yea so invalid lol

[frozen granite]

F U

[raven kelp]

so dramatic

[frozen bronze]

dispatch stalking hanni before her appearance regarding workplace bullying, where she met with mhj beforehand

[stiff prairie]

is there a new date for another hearing or we'll get the ruling straight?

[hot girder]

I never saw it fr

[leaden stream]

i don't wanna chat with y'all i'm just here to say we need min heejin and her bitch ass daughter wiped off the face of the earth

[frozen bronze]

they need to present evidence by like the 12th or something

[cerulean lake]

we need u wiped off

[frozen granite]

Bitch leave then

[jolly junco]

where is mod?

[half knot]

Infi, when did TAG PR recruit you?

[frozen bronze]

you are chatting with us

[leaden stream]

mods know i'm right

[dapper root]

whats up

[stiff prairie]

why is this person still here?

[short laurel]

Obvious rage bait

[steep torrent]

damien might

[half knot]

I mean, some mods may agree with this based on past conversations

[cerulean lake]

very embarrassing for someone to waste time and join this discord and then say this 🤣 go get a job or smth. or maybe go to school

[craggy skiff]

Lmao. It's suddenly so funny

[jolly junco]

because this server mod wants some drama to happens

[novel pebble]

which post

[dapper root]

what?

[cerulean lake]

lowkey agree. the mods now are so..

[dapper root]

bros banned

relax

[twin cypress]

Actual jobless behavior 😂. I can tell you ain’t got no friends by looking at your Spotify profile. If you ain’t get your lame ass “I only listen to kpop” ass out of here and touch grass 😂😂😂😂

[short laurel]

Problem with this user is their language. They called them "bich ass" that alone should be enough for timeout

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1897873537819722226

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

HANNI: ILLIT members and I greeted each other in passing, but when they came back later, their manager told them to ignore me and made sure I heard it. (https://t.co/qWdqmWvVsK)

ADOR: Here is the footage of ILLIT greeting Hanni (https://t.co/xe5N5vgfxa)

🤯

X · Mar 7, 2025, 4:54 AM

[short laurel]

Of they wanna argue against. They can do it in proper language

[frozen granite]

I hate this I feel like this injunction just made things worse … idk I’m trying to be hopeful but why do I feel like this just held us back

[waxen musk]

This is all for the media and to confuse the already confused people even further. Hybe fucking sucks.

[twin cypress]

The ruling is probably gonna come in a few weeks

[waxen musk]

I think it's only made it worse in terms of the media play starting up again and fandom "wars" starting up again. Otherwise nothing has really changed whatever outcome will happen. (However maybe there's more that wasn't yet reported.)

[cerulean lake]

this so true. now twt is gonna be all in flames and im going back to by twt “fast”

[frozen bronze]

mediaplay is hybe's specialty, dont worry too much it doesnt matter in the end

[frozen granite]

I know this is probably dumb since this shouldn’t affect me but I’m sort of crying

[shut kelp]

she litterally says "when the group came out again with the manager" it proves the first interaction happened idk why they cant show the rest lol

[dapper root]

i think some tokkis gotta apologize to ILLIT lowkey

[cerulean lake]

is there anything else that we might not know compared to knetz? i wonder where i can find how they’re reacting

[short laurel]

Someone pls link me post of ribbon

[stiff prairie]

what else was brought up besides the manager incident? everyone seems hyper focused on only this

[hushed whale]

she also said she was alone but the cctv footage they showed hanni with dani and their managers(?)
not same day ig

[shut kelp]

apologize for what?

[frozen granite]

Idk I guess NJZ is very dear to me bc when I found them I was going through a tough situation & I found comfort in their songs

[frozen bronze]

every fandom/group has "some" people that need to apologise to others

[waxen musk]

damien why do you have to stir up shit in here. People generally aren't attacking the members of any side, only the companies involved.

[twin cypress]

Never lol we forgetting hanni ain’t even say their name and it was Hybe who released that info and that the second half of the cctv was deleted anyways

[half knot]

the volume of vitriol that the other fandoms have thrown at newjeans and tokkis far outweigh anything tokkis have said to illit, come one now

[short laurel]

All Fandoms need to apologise to all the artists tbh.

[dapper root]

i didnt stir up anything

the hell

[frozen bronze]

you have a talent for it

[cerulean lake]

ur abt to again like how it always plays out 🤣

[waxen musk]

Let's just ignore him. Gonna go through same shit we've been through before tbh if we continue this.

[dapper root]

i like this answer acutally

[mental lynx]

What am I waking up to

[craggy skiff]

Should the hater apologize to us for spreading fake news all the time?

[cerulean lake]

bro but ur always on us having to apologize. i get some fandoms are immature but why are u always flaming us. never acknowledging how hybe was the one who released them as the group and then that led to them attacking us

[stiff prairie]

guys stop fighting and answer me pls

[steep torrent]

also hanni never mentioned any names either it was all hybe who brought illit into it

[frozen bronze]

#1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

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from brandwagen

1 new thing about the black ribbons that hybe tried to set nj up with, and ador somehow got private messages between hanni and mhj talking about the ignore incident
[Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[sage venture]

What about their fandom apologizing to Hanni?

[tawdry vessel]

she/he tagged that mod... so they maybe know each other

[twin cypress]

Also why would we apologize to a group and label that was meant to replace our group? that’s 100% weird propaganda right there lmao

[frozen bronze]

this is like the only new stuff i think

[shut kelp]

yeah it be could after when dani and the managers left

[craggy skiff]

Ribbon may be an advantage if they have some cgtv or some thing like this

[half knot]

if that infi is the infi I remember from kep1ercord and billliecord, then yeah they would know damien

[runic granite]

the ribbon stuff is so funny like everyone else is allowed but not them 😭

[cerulean lake]

i’m not surprised. don’t even know how they became a mod ngl

[sage venture]

WTF?

[half knot]

that's not what was said, they said that ador/hybe provided them false information that they shouldn't wear it, while also providing it to their other artists.

[twin cypress]

Illit propaganda in a njz discord in the big year 2025 is weirdo behavior

[dapper root]

what do you mean by propaganda

[stiff prairie]

do we know if any other hybe artist performed that day and wore ribbons with/without any interference?

[cerulean lake]

plus ppl might think it’s not significant but it is to korea

[frozen bronze]

theres pictures of illit wearing them at least, i think people are looking into it

[waxen musk]

Yes multiple. Different ribbon style from NewJeans.

[half knot]

yeah the rest of them were all there with ribbons
but the ribbons clearly look different from newjeans ribbons.

[stiff prairie]

so they need to prove hybe/ador told them not to wear it right?

[waxen musk]

Yes. Hopefully they did. Reports from today are quite incomplete.

[tawdry vessel]

do you know that person who just got banned? dont lie

[stiff prairie]

which i don't think is there unless kjy texted them instead of telling it to their faces

[tawdry vessel]

why did she/he tagged you

[dapper root]

yeah i know alot of people

[jolly junco]

my god you guys sure have time to argue with this kind of person

[dapper root]

they just wanted to get banned

[waxen musk]

Just ignore him. We've been through it before I'm fed up with this shit. Nothing you can do.

[frozen bronze]

yeah dni

[cerulean lake]

bro sounds like that one lukecegg user on twt if anyone knows 😭 or wtv their name is

[twin cypress]

Why would we apologize to illit? Firstly hanni didn’t mention them in her initial statement…it was hybe. Secondly if nothing happened where did the second half of the cctv go? Thirdly that group’s label stole documents from newjeans and tried to replace our favorite group like what? Why should we ever feel bad or apologize to that group? That’s some illit propaganda right there

[frozen bronze]

illit girls didnt ask for this, blame the big guy

[cinder narwhal]

oh wow ador's vid clearly shows the first part but not the latter

[jolly junco]

hybe said the second half of the cctv footage got "automatically deleted" after 30 days, but the first half is not deleted

how convenient

the first half of the video didnt past the 30 days mark

[cinder narwhal]

ador was actually supporting hanni statement thanks ador

[waxen musk]

I think them adding confusion is working for them. But when you sit back and review all the facts, they're just making it clearer how they're manipulating the story.

[cerulean lake]

idk what they’re trying to show bc it’s not like she didn’t deny greeting them. it’s more of what the manager said, which cctv cannot even pick up

[upbeat stream]

Also without audio what are they even trying to prove?

[hollow adder]

proving the first part happened is enough lol that works in hannis favor

[cerulean lake]

it’s just the antis are gonna ramp this up 😵‍💫 use it as evidence even tho it literally shows nothing

[stiff prairie]

wow this video added 0 value to the discussion. is all hybe cctv videos like this? 😭

[jolly junco]

nah some people are eating up that cctv, like someone i blocked

[twin cypress]

Illit did ask for this but let’s not act like tokkis should have to apologize (like Damien said) when the people that consistently use them as shields is hybe. We legit wouldn’t know the group that was part of that situation was them if it wasn’t for hybe using them to start a illit njz fanwar

[cerulean lake]

yea that’s why i said this is more like for antis use rather than for court use 😭

[frozen granite]

What are k - tokkis thinking about this ? I wonder

[hollow adder]

also the manager didnt greet hanni in that clip so it also proves her attitude towards hanni

[half knot]

hanni never even mentioned the group name, HYBE's mediaplay mentioned it was ILLIT's manager

[dapper root]

but people bought into that fanwar which is the upsetting part

[frozen bronze]

yes, as you said its the management at the top that is to blame not the illit girls

[dapper root]

even before it was mentioned it was a bad fanwar

[stiff prairie]

when did the narrative go from manager to the members? are those fandoms having collective amnesia?

[hollow adder]

always has been managements fault, remember when they through ILLIT under the bus?

[half knot]

HYBE and all the subsidiaries prior to becoming HYBE have a tendency to throw people under the bus if it benefits the greater good of what they preceive is to their benefit.

[shut kelp]

yea forsure Hybe deleted the rest of the cctv because they know Hanni was right.

[frozen granite]

Oh forgot there’s the mhj hearing today .. sigh

[shut kelp]

everything that hanni said on that live lines up with what the cctv shows

[frozen bronze]

hybe/ador mentioned groups like bts lsf and illit first in order to get those fandoms to attack njz way back

[cerulean lake]

you also think it was tokki’s fault for armies attacking them?

[hollow adder]

thats what im rly excited for , i think mhj has alot of evidence ready

[dapper root]

didnt say that i also think thats insane but armies gonna army

[frozen granite]

I hope this bring something good tbh .. this injunction made me feel hopeless

[frozen bronze]

all of the new information is in our favour

[twin cypress]

And who do you think that war in that situation started from? Illit fans calling hanni a liar and other derogatory words after hybe revealed that the group hanni was talking about was them. Or njz fans against……oh wait njz fans didn’t even know who to start the war with until hybe opened their mouth

[cinder narwhal]

comprehensive summary, just in korean https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003418015

[frozen granite]

How? I’m curious

[cerulean lake]

what are knetz opinions rn? lowkey the public’s opinion matters a lot

[stiff prairie]

yeah i don't really see it being in our favor. just new information that's all

[waxen musk]

Anything in there that hasn't been in reports so far?

[frozen bronze]

the ribbon stuff is clear sabotage by hybe and the cctv bowing stuff + private messages between hanni and mhj are just not believable at all

[frozen granite]

Btw sorry if I cussed at that one person I know it was a ragebait, but it just made me upset how people can become so mean when they don’t know what’s happening

[cinder narwhal]

no

[cerulean lake]

nah don’t apologize. they started that foul language first. don’t care if it’s ragebait or not

[steep torrent]

if they showed the footage why would they not show the supposed text messages?

[waxen musk]

Best to ignore. No need to apologise. They're probably just giggling at our responses and don't care. You shouldn't care about them.

[stiff prairie]

if hybe has all fckn private messages of members and mhj how do they not know about the new agency's identity yet i'm genuinely baffled

[tardy smelt]

okay so their rep did bring up the source videos

[cinder narwhal]

for comparison

[waxen musk]

think some boy group(s) too

[half knot]

the style that the other hybe artists are wearing is what every kpop artist wore, it was the standard ribbon

[upbeat stream]

https://x.com/aegis_of_njz/status/1897863608908103816?t=YM1YENfCB3QdypPc7sFshA&s=19

AEGIS of NJZ (@aegis_of_njz) on X

MBC 인터뷰 요약

기자: 출석의무가 없는데 나온 이유는?
민지: 저희일에 직접 나오는것이 맞다고 판단
기자: 만약 어도어가 이긴다면 계획된 활동은?
민지: 가능하다면 그대로 진행할것
기자: 판사님께 무엇을 전달했나?
하니: 우리들의 마음
혜인: 후회없이 설명했다
민지: 겪은일을 잘 말씀드렸다

X · Mar 7, 2025, 4:15 AM

So they were asked what happens if ador wins, and they will proceed as is

[half knot]

the one newjeans are wearing is their own custom one only for that event.

[upbeat stream]

Am I reading it correctly?

[cerulean lake]

this prove that they had to make their own?

[cinder narwhal]

yeah what happens if you disobey an injunction? you just pay right

[half knot]

that's what they said in court, we're just trying to verify their claims

[short laurel]

I feel like ribbon incident. Since members made their own it is more personal from members. (Bad english sorry)

[frozen bronze]

this at least shows hybe artists are wearing 1 type of ribbon, and nj is wearing a different type of ribbon

[cinder narwhal]

ngl I chalked it up to the usual nj gotta be different

[frozen bronze]

if they have proof of hybe telling them not to wear it thats pretty big imo

[cerulean lake]

man this injunction just made me feel less secure. abt to go watch spiderman again or smth

[short laurel]

Like it's personal touch from girls themselves makes it carry more weight for me on nj's feeling towards the incident.

[jolly junco]

imma start a petition to NJZ for wearing secret cam on their sleeves all the time anywhere they go

[frozen bronze]

dispatch got that

[upbeat stream]

They made it pretty clear in their closing statement that they won't return even if the injunction is granted. This was a smart move.

[cerulean lake]

yeah basically tells the judge that they’re not coming back even if ador wins

[waxen musk]

They've repeated that more times than anything. Nothing can force them.

[upbeat stream]

Now judge will have to weigh the potential damage to ador and njz and I think njz will suffer more without being able to work at all

[cerulean lake]

which basically goes against what ador wants..

[runic granite]

So how much will they have to pay

[upbeat stream]

Because ador's angle was that they are reducing njz's penalty issue as all they need to do is return

[frozen bronze]

maybe nothing, maybe a buck fifty
we're not at that stage yet

[short laurel]

Judge will c it as artists not trusting the label n having no intention to work with label n granting termination validity case in favour of nj. Since contract is based on trust between 2 parties

[cerulean lake]

broski that’s gonna be later on

[upbeat stream]

Yeah that will take years to decide, 5050's case is still ongoing

[runic granite]

Will they still walk free like they said?

[waxen musk]

Oh shit I was just reminded Hanni revealed she has the security team admitting to deleting evidence.

[weak relic]

.

[cerulean lake]

probably not unless there’s some other type of settlement. but it’s probably not gonna be like 500 million dollars like they keep saying (or wtv amt they kept saying)

[twin cypress]

I ain’t gonna lie if they lose that just means their new label will buy them out lol. I’m pretty sure they already a plan if they lose that’s outside of hybe making music

[half knot]

ador employees did that when they went to clean up nj dorm

[twin cypress]

A group that popular will have suitors and they will be able to make back the money easily

[tardy smelt]

lmao, okay, that weird ass line from KJY editing videos might've been a mistranslation. she probably quoted what the video editor in charge of their YT content told her lol.

[runic granite]

Everyone is saying it will get reduced but im scared they might argue for a higher penalty because adors argument is that they used 16 million dollars to debut nj, 10 million for promotions alone

[half knot]

5050 case hasn't even had a hearing about the penalty damages lol, even if newjeans loses the main suit, which won't happen, it'll be 3-5 years before they even get to a settlement lawsuit lol

[cerulean ermine]

*x https://x.com/Liazshy/status/1897859579662180823?t=5w1znTZbUOw927WfDnaYEw&s=19

[upbeat stream]

Or they'll operate from overseas. Korea won't do shit

[harsh dove]

@Liazshy <t:1741319958:d>

[visual siren]

oh my god..

[twin cypress]

Njz already has a fanbase outside Korea they’d succeed outside

[visual siren]

someone enlightend me i don't get this situation

[half knot]

this is what I mean about waiting for proper translations, it was one of the video production staff she was quoting, not saying she was the one doing that ...

pronouns are all kinds of fucked in korean so it's impossible to get translations correctly without an interpretive translator who knows what they are doing

[waxen musk]

Can't assume they're talking about themselves or someone else, even.

[short laurel]

There wasn't much promotion. 16m includes establishment of ador, they already got alot more returns of this investment.

[tardy smelt]

anyway, the article zyx linked is a good summary. in regards to Hanni's "I don't remember" she said "I don't remember if those were the exact words, it was just something like that." - which is understandable and i can hear her saying that

[upbeat stream]

They can't pay it anyway, so what is ador going to do?

How is ador going to collect that 500 B that it wants?

[half knot]

they're not

[frozen granite]

So I’m a bit confused … many have asked & said the answer, but the responses have been very different, so I want to make sure if judge favors ADOR, can NJZ perform at complexcon or no?

[half knot]

no judge will ever aware such an insane number, not even tech settlements are that high in that country

[waxen musk]

I feel like half of what keeps happening is HOW the evidence gets presented, not what the evidence is in a vacuum. So frustrating.

[upbeat stream]

Seems like they will regardless

[frozen granite]

They’d just have to pay a penalty ?

[short laurel]

Important context is cctv footage ador matches word to word with hanni's statement. N she has recording of security guy admitting deletion of the later part of the footage where incident took place

[runic granite]

Exactly I was thinking because its impossible to pay so much money they will probably have to negotiate to allow NJZ to continue working and just give Ador a percentage of whatever they make

[upbeat stream]

Idk what they'll have to do, either pay a penalty, a % cut to ador, or risk contempt of court. And I don't know how that will go, not a lawyer

[shut kelp]

yep and hanni literally said the rest of footage is gone after that

[upbeat stream]

That has been my take all along

[opaque torrent]

i have confidence njz_pr will release a statement debunking some of the legal theatrics today

[tardy smelt]

a lot of what i was reading as we got updates didn't sound like how they'd react. so i was waiting for a proper report to contextualise it all.

[upbeat stream]

Does anyone know what happens if you ignore a civil injunction?

[stiff prairie]

was it shown in court? also hanni said that she has proof of how kjy kept changing her version on the recording being deleted which wasn't shown in court either. and honestly after watching the footage i don't see why hybe felt the need to delete it cause it doesn't really incriminate them tbh

[opaque torrent]

like hybe did when it fired mhj?

[waxen musk]

Chances of an NJZ-PR update later?

[sage venture]

probably judge set certain amount of money for penalty but if it's not, no way to force it

[shut kelp]

yep i say 99%

[opaque torrent]

go to court; wait years for a legal resolution

[half knot]

you file for a second injunction, or for a secondary judgement enforcement if there is a fine set for injunction violation

[upbeat stream]

Well not directly though, but I'm asking about njz, since they did say they won't return to ador regardless

[short laurel]

It was probably. We don't know everything that was discussed there but if cctv is brought up there, they surely shared their side of the story too

[waxen musk]

lol sorry didn't even read this but we had the same thought at the same time.

[opaque torrent]

it will be added/settled in the main lawsuit, which could take up to years to conclude

[shut kelp]

i mean since they release that garbage footage she can now counter w.e claim they were trying to do with that

[sage venture]

there was injunctions against entertainment activities, but even then, there was no way to enforce them

That's why all of them settled afterward

[upbeat stream]

Remember hybe used this as an argument in the 2nd injunction, that even if the court grants it and reinstates mhj, they'll fire her again, making it futile. I feel like njz did the same thing today.

[heady gate]

What I missed in the past 3 hours? There is so much stuffs here.

[cosmic belfry]

Even if there is an injunction granted, they could just proceed anyways. Fines to be paid later.

[opaque torrent]

i was uncertain about the first injunction bc i didnt know what the shareholder contract terms were.

doubtful about the second one bc mhj's team already predicted hybe would replace the ador board to fire her and seemed genuinely worried

but everyone seems pretty confident about this injunction bc it is literally illegal to prevent them from making a living and i am too

[twin cypress]

Them laughing in court and coming out smiling tells me everything I need to know lmao

[heady gate]

real

[tardy smelt]

#1231839760759263232 message just google translate this article

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1741324898:f>

from scattered___

comprehensive summary, just in korean https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003418015
[Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[stiff prairie]

alright. i see nothing good/bad coming out from todays "evidences". maybe if they have receipts of hybedor ordering them to not wear the ribbon i'd be more at ease. also i don't see yet why court will decide to stop njz activity which is bread and butter for them. i think court will say take it to main lawsuit like the mhj one

[frozen granite]

If they take it to the main lawsuit they can still perform & sign with other agencies & brands ?

[stiff prairie]

i don't trust their smile lol. dani was giggling talking about 3 lawsuits they'll smile for us even if they lose let's be fair

[stiff prairie]

yeah if court says that then sure

[half knot]

it's possible the injunction will only partially be granted. judge will reject the part about getting newjeans to work with ador again, may also reject the part about their music activities, but may grant part about working with third party brands or agencies

injunctions can also be appealed so this is likely to drag on a while

but no matter the outcome, the complexcon will go as planned, I bet

[red thorn]

If the latest shown cctv footage was incident Hanni referring to, isn't that clear proof obstruction by hybe's side
The deleted footage magically appear

[opaque torrent]

the judge would be making a ruling based on his previous ruling hahah... which is that hybe did discriminate against newjeans and plagiarized them oop

[half knot]

it also matches what hanni has said perfectly, and is missing the part hanni said was deleted

[frozen granite]

It’s the same judge ??

[short laurel]

The afterwards part is deleted. The footage matches what hanni said.

[opaque torrent]

it does count. according to my cassie friend who followed the jyj case closely, the court still takes into account disloyal behavior after contract termination

so ador/hybe trying to sabotage newjeans while they're trying to honor current contracts absolutely matters

[half knot]

because one side claims the contract is still valid, and this behavior would have been during the period of time they claimed the contract is still valid

[opaque torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-yes-amanda-holden-britain's-got-talent-i-want-it-of-course-gif-4061103280538678958

[frozen granite]

Wait is the same judge that favored MHJ at the beginning ?

[eager hamlet]

nj story

[tardy smelt]

oh damm hanni calling them out on ig story

[short laurel]

I m no legal expert but i hope hybe lose n nj wins

[stable escarp]

Oh she got the clapback

[cinder narwhal]

omfg

[marble cape]

😲

[weak relic]

wow

[cinder narwhal]

“I remember everything exactly. I wanted to say it in court earlier, but I held back.

Please stop tormenting me, ADOR and HYBE.”

[jolly junco]

hanni is mad

[steep torrent]

she held back?

[weak relic]

ador get roasted and cooked and grilled

[tardy smelt]

that contextualises why she laughed as a reaction to that evidence (yeah ik, i'm stating the obvious)

[cinder narwhal]

Haha true though why would you undermine the artist you're trying to win back

[opaque torrent]

the parents already explained that they downplayed the incident a little to mhj bc she was so busy so thats why they went to HR

[sage venture]

guys generally banning music activities cannot and has never been granted Precedents are either prohibiting signing with a certain label or appearing on broadcasts, and even in those cases, there’s no enforceability So, this talk about the result is a moot point

[heady gate]

I am sure the girls are busy talking to their parents right now

[cinder narwhal]

no they're talking to me

[opaque torrent]

their consideration for mhj's health bc she had so much on her plate turned into not taking it seriously

[short laurel]

I wonder why she held back in court

[waxen musk]

So Hanni is saying that yet again the messages shown were out of context?

[weak relic]

fr

[orchid field]

It would be more he say she say which is pointless

[waxen musk]

A lot on her mind and points to think about. Other people speaking and not having the chance to mention this one point. I can see it happening. Who knows.

[short laurel]

True

[half knot]

did you expect her to rise up during ador's lawyer's statements and go ...

[upbeat stream]

Injunction hearing is very hectic too, there's barely any time for statements

[red thorn]

Attention!

[waxen musk]

Hanni has it tougher than the rest of them.

[steep torrent]

yeah idk if she's referring to the text messages or today

[half knot]

yeah she's been the prime target of mediaplay attacks and vitriol significantly more than any other member

[short laurel]

I m glad the media outlet present were isplus n topstar who have shown to be more neutral on the drama.

[sage venture]

you can submit the document later, and I hope she does

[waxen musk]

I'm sure they'll present text messages in full context as usual.

[short laurel]

Yea.

[unborn arrow]

ur answer ig

[waxen musk]

Damn she's had enough.

[half knot]

okay but she said "than" instead of "then"......... dropped

[waxen musk]

I'd be furious too but she's brave enough to stand up all the time.

[cinder narwhal]

hanni is fuming

[cinder narwhal]

hanni step on giraffe what does it mean!!

[waxen musk]

lol I didn't even see the giraffe.

[half knot]

first it was eat crow hybe, now it's step on giraffe

[tardy smelt]

kind of. it's just as she said. have you ever said something in text and have some mf make up some other meaning out of your words to fit their argument, but you know exactly what you meant and then the argument strays further from the point of what you meant. yeah, that.

[waxen musk]

Mmm hmm.

[opal zodiac]

i just got here, have they released the supposed texts with MHJ and hanni or are we just playing a game of telephone across multiple people with the source being people who are proven liars regarding fabricating text messages (also, they speak a different language)

[waxen musk]

They haven't.

[weak relic]

ador

[short laurel]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003418015
This summary is the best we have so far

[tiny peak]

I feel so bad for Hanni

[craggy skiff]

Wait. Does anyone have the ador cgtv again?

[waxen musk]

I feel mad for her, which is a weird expression.

[stiff prairie]

yeah i agree w that. but we need receipts that hybedor told them not to wear that. just saying won't be enough i think

[zenith bane]

talking about context soft-confirms the texts were real, but as explained, taken out of context to suit a different narrative

[craggy skiff]

Feel like the one in blue is dani, not hanni. I need to check it again

[waxen musk]

Don't worry about that. They're not going to bring things up in court that can just be dismissed because there's no evidence. I'm sure.

[opaque torrent]

ah i see what you mean

[short laurel]

Girls should have had recording on for every interaction with hybe ador after they left company

[stiff prairie]

and btw apparently the vid shown today was not what hanni was talking about? that part didn't even include manager saying ignore her. i couldn't even tell since the footage is so vague

[sage venture]

my understanding is that the text message was submitted by Sejong as proof that something actually happened And what we saw was HYBE defending it, with the media just chopping it up as something HYBE would do

[tardy smelt]

okay, this is the fire i was looking forward to today. i was hoping they were holding back after hearing no impactful new developments today. let's fucking go.

[tiny peak]

I hope there's a njz_pr with the reciepts soon

[short laurel]

Yes it be4 video. The needed video comes after which is deleted.

[waxen musk]

Ugh I hate that we just have to wait around.

[opaque torrent]

the first injunction, we didnt even get good, comphrehensive summaries until the next day. the first articles that come out are always clumsy or preplanned by hybe and their minions

[short laurel]

The video matches what hanni originally said

[craggy skiff]

Where hanni is in this video 💀

[opal zodiac]

thats exactly what thye want. vague/confusing footage that paints hanni as a liar. if we're confused, imagine less informed citizens seeing this

[tardy smelt]

look for the bob, i missed it too

[novel pebble]

It's Dani, Hanni is on the other side

[opal zodiac]

seeing hanni this mad has got me crashing out for the first time this drama i feel

[sage venture]

This is the whole conversation and you can understand what media's doing

[waxen musk]

Top right. You can see Hanni written in Korean on the overlay.

[stiff prairie]

njz pr needs to make a statement on the footage asap. ppl are thinking this is the footage that was deleted

[tardy smelt]

i feel fired up. i'm living for this shit.

[rain spade]

dont need to imagine, there is already lots kel

[opaque torrent]

only hybecels lol

[weak relic]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[weak relic]

all we can do

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/hannihourly/status/1897892747551359331

[narrow seal]

250307 hanni (@​hannihourly) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/hannihourly/status/1897892747551359331
#HANNI njz_official instagram story update

“i have a lot to say but i've been holding back simply because i don't see the need to have to escalate this issue any bigger than it already is. but if you think u have the audacity to make even more false assumptions about us then you

[jolly junco]

hanni is mad mad............

[stiff prairie]

nah they got me as well. i thought it was in this same footage too and that's why i was confused there was no reaction from nobody.

[waxen musk]

but if you think u have the audacity to make even more false assumptions about us
Who is she talking to? Haters on Twitter?

[frozen granite]

Uhh someone is releasing a good overview of the injunction, but it’s Spanish, should I still share in for other bunnies who don’t know English or Korean?

[steep torrent]

this is the same way they presented mhj's texts 💀

[tardy smelt]

crashout hanni, maybe we'll get that diss track

[short laurel]

English or Spanish 💀

[frozen granite]

wait did I say something wrong ?