NJZ Updates and Discussion

[copper jetty]

idk y but if the PC is a go I'm still betting that NJZ will release something to counter it... Maybe a new music???

[kindred estuary]

ugh not them again

[wind monolith]

Im ready for some new user to pop in here and say some stupid shit

[lucid yarrow]

what if they all join hands and welcome their new overlord NJZ not

[copper jetty]

i really hope not but if there's anything that's gonna be released tomorrow then we all know that some of those people are gonna pop up here. I think cake should be here to moderate this thread tomorrow

[hoary frost]

Hahah like Tobi who rebranded to Kuki lmao

[short laurel]

https://x.com/TheePopCore/status/1894636068651307243?t=pvMnkhIWjbSnuu6dxEs8Dw&s=19
I members will renew

Pop Core (@TheePopCore) on X

BTS has acquired a significant stake in HYBE, becoming the company's 5th largest shareholder.

— Collectively, the members own 1.1% of HYBE's shares. Notably, each BTS member individually holds more shares than the CEOs of HYBE's subsidiaries.

X · Feb 26, 2025, 6:30 AM

Nvm. Fact checking says it's media play. Fake news 💀

[copper jetty]

Mediaplay from hybe AGAIN that BTS will be with hybe as it's owners forever 🤣

[frozen granite]

So this article is not real?

[copper jetty]

Oh it's real. They have the 1.1% that's literally their stock. Thing is 1.1% ÷ 7 that's how much stock is per member

[short laurel]

They have shared in hybe n 2 members sold them. It's old news according to replies. Also they have no share holders voting rights.

[copper jetty]

I think something is gonna blow up in the morning if Hybe is associating themselves again with BTS.

[frozen granite]

Oh ok, agh I can’t wait for NJZ to be free from that ugly company so we can stop talking about them once & for all I don’t want the girls to be associated with that agency

[copper jetty]

— Collectively, the members own 1.1% of HYBE's shares. Notably, each BTS member individually holds more shares than the CEOs of HYBE's subsidiaries.

I'm questioning this though, 🛴 has 0.87% stock in hybe. As compared to what .16 each per member??? Is my math not mathing??

[frozen granite]

That def does sound sus ….

Also, do you guys think NJZ will announce their new agency after their performance ?

!!!! ????? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2mybUeW/

[copper jetty]

No idea.

[stiff prairie]

Bro I might ghost you guys tmrw. I'm omw to visit my hometown rn. All the cousins and relatives are coming. I just hope nothing big happens

[copper jetty]

No problem. I do hope that nothing big happens but other people will be here anyway. If this sub gets closed then it gets closed. It's ok.

[stiff prairie]

You guys will have to hold the fort down. Fight the haters but calmly and never let them close the thread

[upbeat stream]

I remember when annoying ass Tim used to close this thread for no reason

Good riddance

[modern fog]

😭

[copper jetty]

A lot of the people here gets heated and understandably so, i just hope it's going to be calm in the next few days.

[hollow sorrel]

remember how they announced NJZ on 02.07 because it's a play on their debut date 07.22
well today is the LITERAL debut date reversed 02.27

so I definitely feel they are announcing something today...
not to mention that those companies are having their presscon today so it would strategically make sense to try and overshadow it with something else like a big announcement.

[stiff prairie]

I actually liked Tim cause he used to contribute a lot ngl

[stiff prairie]

Yeah. Even I get agitated from time to time. But gotta think of the greater good

[brazen ice]

i still want those wallpapers 😔

[stiff prairie]

Yeah those ai extended super high resolution wallpapers were the thing

But I appreciate the Tokyo dome stream more

It is what it is ig

[upbeat stream]

Yeah the bunnies camp stream is awesome. I'm watching it rn actually

Reminiscing the happiest moment in the last 10 months

[waxen musk]

If whatever happens doesn't actually change the outcome of NJZ's future, I don't really care about it.

[frozen granite]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2m9qDQC/

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/talytokki/status/1894847841295835369

taly (@talytokki) on X

The five industry organizations will be holding a press conference at 10:30 AM today (in 5 hours).

NJZ will likely be discussed. Whatever is said, please stay calm. It’s all media play. If anything significant is mentioned, wait for an official statements from NJZ or their

X · Feb 26, 2025, 8:31 PM

[upbeat stream]

Thank god the NA is democrat controlled, if it was the PPP maybe they would have a chance at getting their crazy regulations passed

[jolly junco]

i'm ready for thursday media play

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/gang-arrive-eevee-evolution-eeveelution-gif-9438034378025888151

[cerulean lake]

for antis the gov support alters based on their response 😭

one day nwjns and mhj are so powerful they’re controlling the gov and another day, the gov is correct bc they dismissed cases on ador and hybe

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1894902566758293696

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

(02.27)
#NJZ #엔제이지

X · Feb 27, 2025, 12:09 AM

[cinder narwhal]

*x -c https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1894785640887149039

[harsh dove]

@cato_o_o <t:1740587074:d>

Why are H-roaches/K-stans bringing up over 2 year old debunked conspiracy lies?

They desperate?

Shin Dongle who directed NewJeans Cookie, Supernatural and Hype Boy MV shared her thoughts on the Cookie MV controversy on January 2, 2023 on her insta.

Original and link to follow

[cinder narwhal]

I don't want to bring up the recent trolling, just the director's insight is a good read

[wind monolith]

wheres this press conferance....

[cinder narwhal]

https://www.youtube.com/live/Dj1qc4BtuDE

[wind monolith]

is it me or is it laggy as hell

[cinder narwhal]

that's a good thing

[hushed whale]

3 fps

[wind monolith]

💀 chearing for a association who doesnt give two shits

[red thorn]

1 fps

[wind monolith]

i would act like a journalist and go slap him☠️

[hushed whale]

https://www.youtube.com/live/62DIxzYMZWQ

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1894929481720308121

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

clown festa

X · Feb 27, 2025, 1:56 AM

[tawdry vessel]

old greedy clowns 🤡

[wind monolith]

We ready for the most diabolical statments👍

[cerulean lake]

each one of them bongo’s relatives

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1894939402297827814

NJZ Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

"Please make a promise to protect the industry by siding with the companies"

X · Feb 27, 2025, 2:35 AM

[waxen musk]

What is he doing?

[copper jetty]

How is that protecting the industry when most of these companies are the abusers?? 😭 💀

[wind monolith]

pinky promise☠️

[waxen musk]

I was thinking of something else, sorry.

[jolly junco]

so, how is it going? i'm waiting for updates from this thread

[waxen musk]

Yeah it's too quiet. I'm too tempted to look at Twitter.

[wind monolith]

i see nothing on twitter my fyp might be fked tho

[cinder narwhal]

there's some articles in naver go and read it if you're curious

[cinder verge]

what's happening

[craggy skiff]

strange. is it done yet?

[upbeat stream]

No it's live rn

[craggy skiff]

so quiet 💀

[upbeat stream]

one of them said the exclusive contract is unfair to companies 💀

Means they are not confident in their case at all

[cinder narwhal]

j

[jolly junco]

now they said its unfair LOL

[craggy skiff]

dang. really? I know they are 🤡 but this joke is unexpected

[jolly junco]

in simple terms, they want a slave contract for celebrities

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/haerinskumu/status/1894938526375878678

ෆ Kumu ෆ (@haerinskumu) on X

The way only one person clapped for them 😭😭😭😭😭

X · Feb 27, 2025, 2:32 AM

[jolly junco]

the audacity of these old men to suggest that..............

[waxen musk]

How likely is it they get their way?

[cinder narwhal]

so far these are where njz was mentioned:
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/609/0000957944
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/609/0000957994

[jolly junco]

0

[sage venture]

well, at least by now, everyone should know who actually follows the current law

[upbeat stream]

Even if the NA takes them seriously (it won't) it'll take way too long to change things, so njz won't be affected

[waxen musk]

That's a great sign.

[jolly junco]

zero chance their suggestion will be approved

[craggy skiff]

also said, "In addition, protests demanding the dismissal and disciplinary action of agency employees have been growing stronger recently, centered around some fandoms. The personal information of agency employees is being leaked without permission, and malicious comments and cyber terrorism targeting their families continue. Who can protect the human rights of agency employees? I think we need to look into the grievances of the employees who have to endure indiscriminate verbal abuse and personal attacks simply because they are in conflict with the singer. We should not forget that there are employees at agencies where singers leave without notice who are now worried about losing their jobs and the future. We need to look back and see who is truly the socially disadvantaged in this industry, and whether we are ready to listen to those socially disadvantaged people."

[jolly junco]

i'm sure the artists union will protest if that happens

[upbeat stream]

Attrakt CEO made similar suggestions anyway and it got laughed at by the NA

[craggy skiff]

I don't know we found that employees yet. Am I missing something?

[waxen musk]

I don't know either, but them saying those things about employees and not saying the exact same thing about the artists is funny.

[wind monolith]

so far pretty ass press conferance thankfully imo

[upbeat stream]

Yeah they have no proof or explosive new allegations lol

[waxen musk]

When have they ever?

[red thorn]

They bs, artist the special worker that's not even considered worker have no protection

[cinder narwhal]

there is no union lol

[tawdry vessel]

about time to make one

[jolly junco]

there is union for artist/actors, not for idols

but since they mention "standart contact for celebrity it applies to artist/actor too

[craggy skiff]

btw, I saw a lot comment about hyein forced to agree with other members to leaving after her latest live.
After haerin, now they have new strategy hm?

[frozen granite]

Are most of the comments in Korean in support of Njz ?

[craggy skiff]

"I suddenly feel like I'm going to be possessed by Min Hee Jin"

[frozen granite]

Wait so I’m confused is most of SK supporting NJZ or no? Bc people saying they NJZ is another 50/50 situation but mostly everyone in the public wanted them out

[jolly junco]

they underestimated the girls bond with each other ckckck

[craggy skiff]

wait for some ktokkie to answer

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1894950488019476876

NJZ Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

Press Conference is officially over.

0 talks about blacklisting NJZ on music shows, awards, circle chart etc so big win for us.

0 new evidence or documents presented.

Peak viewers hit about 510?

X · Feb 27, 2025, 3:19 AM

[tawdry vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1223790388062453801.gif?size=48

[upbeat stream]

They are the ones who look possessed by Shamans

[tardy smelt]

even they know it was within newjeans' rights to terminate the contract unilaterally lol

[waxen musk]

I wasn't expecting to feel better after this press conference but it's a nice surprise.

[tardy smelt]

now that that's over with, it's time to hold our breath for a teaser drop from njz today

[sage venture]

either they're completely incompetent or their 'grand plan' fell apart because njz_pr spilled the news At the very least, this reassures that NJZ is taking the right course in court

[craggy skiff]

lmao right. they want reform standard contract system to prevent artist terminate contract so they implicit admit njz have the right to do it now 🤡

[frozen granite]

I’m so glad jjins is banned he’d twist the words out of them

[waxen musk]

Why will it take the courts years to determine this when the outcome is already known?

[craggy skiff]

I don't know if they plan really cancelled by njz_pr or they conference is meaningless.
I thought they were make something huge to stop or defame njz if they were going to launch something today.
But after all, what they are doing? 💀

[tardy smelt]

it's great. that article meant to rift the members never dropped. and they didn't pull anything today. all because njz_pr were a step ahead.

[cosmic belfry]

In the big picture, as long as they can work while it's happening, it should be fine.

[jolly junco]

so whats this prescon result?

i was waiting for something to happened, but you guys havent shared anything negative from this prescon

[waxen musk]

I'm with you lol. Hanni's thing this morning got me all excited for a moment.

[tardy smelt]

nothingburger

[craggy skiff]

maybe, just maybe... there are nothing

[waxen musk]

I clicked on this account based on the Tweets linked above and they seem to have been up to date. Basically nothing happened. https://x.com/MinotaurKard

NJZ Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

Supporting NJZ

X

[jolly junco]

[waxen musk]

*x https://x.com/tina2nHR/status/1894954360188326136

[tardy smelt]

"we'll definitely win" atp, i don't have any doubts

[harsh dove]

@tina2nHR <t:1740627300:d>

[jolly junco]

what a waste of everyone's time
these old men are soooooooooooooooooooo dumb

[waxen musk]

That's all we got out of this press conference.

[craggy skiff]

somehow I feel like this a bad flag 💀

[jolly junco]

“We believe we will win this battle against Hybe and Ador.”

Danielle Marsh

[cinder narwhal]

People should just stop talking about it, streisand effect might happen

[short laurel]

So the 5 associations press con. They basically asked for celebrity contract to be more strict n make termination only possible through court.

Is this it?

[waxen musk]

I know, surely they said more than that over the course of two hours. I'm waiting for the articles to come out.

[short laurel]

https://x.com/MinotaurKard/status/1894950777258680597?t=5n8BwuWY_BhYkeOW4CRytQ&s=19
🤣

NJZ Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

Theres going to be more articles about this press conference than total viewers 😅

X · Feb 27, 2025, 3:20 AM

[jolly junco]

true

[fleet nebula]

lol team bunnies dunked on them

[lucid yarrow]

now that they explained it do those monkey brain crazies still think NJZ contract is still valid lol

[short laurel]

These associations kinda admitted that njz has rights to terminate the contract. 🤣

[midnight zodiac]

i'll take that as a win

[upbeat stream]

I think the court will also determine if the termination was wrongful or not

Not just if contract is valid, which it isn't

[short laurel]

Yup. Koreans are having a party shitting on the press con today on twter

[cinder narwhal]

🥳

[short laurel]

I know i said yesterday nit to post reddit here but after this joke 9f press con i wanna know their reaction 🤣

[frozen granite]

You live in Korea?

[lucid yarrow]

i feel like i get their shit take view they dont want to handicap themselves with good laws and lose talents bc other countries dont have this so they should not be the ones giving away there money betting on idols who might leave them high and dry lol

[short laurel]

No. Just c korean accounts on twter

[half knot]

literally asking politicians to protect kpop industry companies over the rights of the celebrities and artists is hilarious

they are so fucking scared they want to rig this. it serves as some kind of warning to the court judges that this will ruin kpop companies

they are essentially admitting that their current contracts are not enough in their advantage and that they are against companies which is just such high level horseshit.

but ironically this is signaling to all the mistreated artists that they CAN actually terminate their contracts and aren't forced to stay hahaha

let's remember that government regulations forced these contracts to be this way, because of the slave contract clauses, and this is still pretty damn close to indentured servitude the way it is written, and they want to go back to being slave contracts? 😄

this is more than a little desperate

[short laurel]

I looked at reddit n no post about this presscon 🥺

[frozen granite]

Njz is about to hit 5.2m on ig !!

[split bramble]

they probably had plans to say a lot more before being exposed by njz parents

and ended up admitting the girls legally terminated contracts

[hoary frost]

So what happened during the press con?

[cinder narwhal]

this is the tldw

[hoary frost]

Thx goat

[copper jetty]

So basically the PC was a nothing burger

Also i don't know why they would want more stringent contracts that binds an artist more when the thing they should do is not abuse their idols and treat them well. That's it. 🤭

[stable escarp]

Have yall noticed the rise in people saying "i dont think Hyein wanted to leave"? Like that shit pissed me off

[copper jetty]

Oh hell yeah. I think i saw it on a reel on tiktok and I was like hell no

The dishonor. And you know what it's mostly armys saying this. Smdh

https://tenor.com/view/disney-mulan-dishonor-on-you-dishonor-on-your-cow-gif-15086496

[stable escarp]

They even brought up Haerin saying she was so quiet she probably wanted to stay... Like are you blind? Need your ears checked? Its as if they js closed their ears and brain when Haerin was speaking about the leaked info

[copper jetty]

Well in their defense (checks note) NJZ are manipulated and groomed so

[stable escarp]

[copper jetty]

I just thought of the times that when a company unilaterally terminated an idols contract we never heard anything about these associations and now, the first time that an artist did, we suddenly hear them make a fuss about the exclusive contract? It's like them saying only us companies can use that clause, artists can't

[short laurel]

they not just targeted idols but celebrities if they translation i read it correct. so i hope they get big push-back from actor union atleast.

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/theletter_Y/status/1894976889933979888?t=989gN_d-Z6SJFcL5ajl2jQ&s=33

Ylon Musk 📭 Y 😑 (@theletter_Y) on X

@PoppyKPoppie

X · Feb 27, 2025, 5:04 AM

[short laurel]

replace hybe ador with Kpop. since all mid to big companies are part of these associations.

they all believe in slave contract. infact that's what kpop had since very beginning

[copper jetty]

Why haven't idols formed a union before? I think it would benefit them plus they could include trainees in these. There are a lot of grey areas regarding the trainees of idol companies.

[short laurel]

too young don't know any better, impossibly heavy schedule, many of kpop artists aren't as nice as public think, but artists are aware so there's divide. probably couple more issues.
EX-idols start their own agency and become the same as other kpop companies. when they should be the ones leading a union they instead become part of very same system they should've avoided.

very few ex-idols are petitioning for change but mostly female idols and u know how it is for females in korea. be4 Hanni, many ex-idols have attended NA for this but no law has been made.

[stiff prairie]

Can anyone give me a tldr

What did kmca kema say

[tardy smelt]

#1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1740630542:f>

from scattered___

[Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[stiff prairie]

So basically what we thought of before.

Also they're trying to influence judge's decision by saying look at the contract conservatively not liberally

[jolly junco]

guysssssssssssss we have official TWT and TIKTOK now

[ocean arch]

Link plz

[jolly junco]

and youtubeeeeeeeee

[wind monolith]

Check their insta or newjeans chat

[ocean arch]

Did they drop the teaser ??????

[jolly junco]

OMG!!!!! we are spoiled today

[wind monolith]

Only thing left is agency amd NEW MUSIC

[jolly junco]

YES on their insta

[ocean arch]

[short laurel]

Yt account since 5th feb. How did we not find it be4

[cinder narwhal]

private?

[short laurel]

Yea. N twter account someone else had it be4. Glad girls got it.

[jolly junco]

we should have noticed it, all the fake one before was using officiall or offcial offciall

did not occur to me that NJZ already got the handles and went private

they were so fast but still cant get the "official" handles

[ocean arch]

I hate fan accs with similar names to the original

[short laurel]

No. When njz announced their ig, stans on twter were sharing it with '@' so it was tagging some account. So @thorn orbit on twt was taken by someone else back then.

N who did i just tagged there 😭😂

[jolly junco]

who is that 😭

[ocean arch]

Lol

[cinder narwhal]

lol

[tardy smelt]

official discord account

[mental lynx]

We get phoning 3.0 in 3 Months Mark my Words

[short laurel]

Too expensive n too early to setup a new app this quickly.

[ocean arch]

Better yet individual accounts

[mental lynx]

Just Trust me I feel it

[split bramble]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1895077839466357152

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

NJZ OFFICIAL SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS
Instagram: https://t.co/x8BkyxZLWi
Twitter: https://t.co/Mi1pTVYc90
TikTok: https://t.co/3IuZqdMgsE
Youtube: https://t.co/MCem7s7f3P

X · Feb 27, 2025, 11:45 AM

[mental lynx]

They been cooking since all the shit even started

they are always 10 steps ahead of hybe/ador

[fierce cloak]

it would be better to continue njz account as a group, they need unity now to strengthen the brand njz identity
plus haerin & hyein dont really post much anyway

[ocean arch]

True

[craggy skiff]

Haerin account like: 💤 💤 💤

[mild mist]

"Ah" - Kang Haerin

[short laurel]

btw prediction of NJZ dropping something today was spot on. we got lil teaser and more official pages.

[ocean arch]

Reddit is hella quiet abt kmca press conference

[jolly junco]

because they know that prescon just confirmed that NJZ terminating contract is valid

[kindred estuary]

the PC was just full of yapping but nothing crucial was presented

[upper solstice]

are we back

is kpop saved

[mental hound]

Hopefully.

[naive hound]

Where were these accounts announced btw?

[mental hound]

Insta story.

[naive hound]

So there won't be more content from their previous ador accounts? I was still following them

[mental hound]

Don't think so.

Unless there are some endorsements that were done before the split.

[waxen musk]

Not surprised they are quiet about this new music teaser too. I really remember well the days when Get Up EP was teasted with ASAP intrumentals and New Jeans pixel art graphics mixed together.

[bronze jetty]

💀

[waxen musk]

oh god where's this. i thought nobody cared on reddit about this new teaser

[ocean arch]

Somebody tell them its because of the date 227

[bronze jetty]

yeah someone did!

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpopthoughts/comments/1ijsbwv/comment/mf3d8mc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[upbeat stream]

During the week, the r/kpop megathread is locked so they move to kpopthoughts and kpoprants

[waxen musk]

I know, I was still hoping for some "positive" exposure with someone making a new post on /r/kpop about this short teaser just like they did for every teaser before. Times have changed.

[waxen musk]

And why am I now reading all their comments? "That teaser being centered around cookies gives me the icks" I give up

[cerulean lake]

if that’s what they think when they see cookies then they’re the weird one 👀

[waxen musk]

It's not even lyrics this time, it's just literal imagery of cookies

[cerulean lake]

bunny shaped cookies with their initials and they’re starting to make weird correlations..who’s the weird ones here 🧐

[waxen musk]

WAIT. I KNEW I recognised him. I used to like his analysis videos.
*x -c https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1895107255403512040

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

So this f*cker is the one on the GAON YouTube channel doing analysis of Top BG and GGs.

From the start, I couldn’t understand why he kept on downplaying NewJeans success while ranking GG successes on his channel but now it makes sense.

GAON f*ckers hated NewJeans from debut.

X · Feb 27, 2025, 1:42 PM

Eh whatever maybe I should forget about these arses.
Just glad to have a day where looking on Twitter made me feel good again.

[short laurel]

he become internet meme for that pinky finger lol

[upbeat stream]

Yep, I have watched many of his videos as I'm very interested in charts and stuff. Never again though

[short laurel]

interesting they mention it now but didn't post anything on the press con at all outside NJZ. so todays presscon = good if it's against NJZ. but presscon = bad for every other celebrities.

[sonic olive]

What happened???

[short laurel]

Account is still there. It's not banned. Where did u get this ss

[cinder narwhal]

flagged as bot probably. too many followers in a short amount of time, with no uploads

[short laurel]

Wait 1 tab says no video posted other tab says banned, weird tiktok

[half knot]

they should have applied for a business account after creating the account

[ocean arch]

Can they still recover it ?

[half knot]

that way it wouldn't get banned and might even fast track any verification checkmarks

[half knot]

maybe, I don't know how their recovery appeal process is. I don't know if announcing these accounts ahead of time was even the right move, but they'll figure it out

[short laurel]

What i c is haters using this against njz so avoid twter for now

[ocean arch]

They probably can't get verification because newjeans official acc is still around

[hoary frost]

Not there anymore, it is very much banned

Since early morning today I think

[short laurel]

Read my 2nd comment

[wind monolith]

its cuz of mass following pre sure katseye had somethin similar

[hoary frost]

[jolly junco]

i re-install tiktok just for njz then this happened

[hushed whale]

its prob an easy fix, they prob know someone who knows someone who knows someone who works at tiktok

[short laurel]

They back on tiktok

[waxen musk]

That was quick.

[stiff prairie]

Feels bad man. Missing so many things in one day

[short laurel]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1895299899547439192?t=KgD1XLV_JHo5jAgde9T4JQ&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

Fans' response on the press conference of the 5 organizations:

"These Organizations Only Represent Agency Interests"

Ahead of the press conference, NJZ fandom ‘Bunnies’ released a statement criticizing the five organizations for only representing agency interests.

Bunnies

X · Feb 28, 2025, 2:28 AM

[wind monolith]

is uggs another brand who is with njz cuz i didnt see newjeans_ador post anything

[cerulean lake]

hopefully

[cinder narwhal]

hanni's been their ambassador for a while now

[wind monolith]

ya ik its good to see that another brand is still there even though according to frador "brands are confsued"

[cinder narwhal]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003416576

[frozen granite]

Shakatak is suing NJz??

[short laurel]

they have no case. why they suing NJZ ?

if they think they have case over bubblegum the one they should be suing is odor

[grizzled summit]

didnt shakatak copy another artist

[short laurel]

same old. nothing new

[half knot]

both sides have to continue to maintain their positions before any kind of judgement is passed, and possibly even afterwards if they plan to appeal

NJZ side have to continue to act as though their contracts are terminated, and ADOR has to continue to act as though the contracts are still valid.

[grizzled summit]

btw what evidence does the girls have against ador (jst asking im scared for them)

[half knot]

the idea that both sides must put everything on hold until they settle their legal matters is some newly made-up kpop reddit fantasy

but also because that's how other groups and members leaving companies had acted before, turns out it was just a norm out of fear of financial ruin or something else, not a legal requirement

[grizzled summit]

ador just wants the capital that will be generated from njz's activities cuz they have no group now

[half knot]

ADOR is still making a lot of money from various NewJeans related stuff such as their youtube channel, streaming, etc.

[wind monolith]

The only article for shakatak is on msn and its one small paragraph. Thats all i saw idk and im pretty sure sure ador would have to deal with that

[grizzled summit]

i thought newjeans is over njz is there now

[wind monolith]

But its more fuel for antis

[short laurel]

ador gonna keep releasing same statement everytime NJZ release new content.

[grizzled summit]

njz needs to sue xiwang kpop tea, seoulite tv, the kpop spy and more for the hate campaign smeared against them

[half knot]

none of the newjeans sns, streaming accounts or merchandise channels are shut down, ador is still making money from them, and the girls are likely still getting paid for up to two years after the contract termination as is the standard in the entertainment contract

[frozen granite]

Idk but there was an article released today so idk if it’s old or new ?

[short laurel]

girls still getting money from ador's content after leaving ador but ador getting nothing from NJZ new content.

[half knot]

so even if the courts shut it all down and say yep NJZ are right and Ador can go fuck itself, both sides still are making money from their 2022-2024 activities and content up to the end of 2026, and ador still making money even after that from newjeans

[grizzled summit]

k

[grizzled summit]

how i thought njz terminated their contract

[frozen granite]

I can already see some fandoms tweeting nasty stuff

[short laurel]

afarik the part they claiming as plagiarism has been in open for a while and shakatak aren't 1st to use it.

[grizzled summit]

armpits?

[frozen granite]

Ohhh let’s not say 🫣

[grizzled summit]

yuh and hybe stans barking since olivia marsh LEGALLY sampled that guy's song

[half knot]

at least in the standard contracts, whatever share of profits idols get paid while they are under contract continues to a minimum of two years after the termination of the contract, unless both sides had agreed to forgo that clause

[grizzled summit]

hybe stans are the most nasty double sided ones ever. i can even write a whole paragraph on them like how they write on their beloved bangtan oppas

[half knot]

so all the while this has been going on, even if ador hasn't been providing settlement/profit sharing payments to NJZ girls, they are still entitled to that, everything from 2024 until now that they still may not have gotten paid for yet

[short laurel]

it turned out one o the producer there copied it without permission. idr full details but song now has the dude in credit while the original producer got removed.

[grizzled summit]

no actually what happened was ian dugolo or whatever his name is his ex company sold his song to olviia marsh, and her producers bought it legally and now he acted like a kid and said nasty about livvy

[short laurel]

if that was the case, they wouldn't have any need to change credits.

[grizzled summit]

olivia marsh and her team did what any artist would and ian literally deleted all his messages cuz livvy would have sued him

[short laurel]

there's probably more we don't know. and will never know.

[grizzled summit]

ik but the fact that hybe stans acting like they know him

[short laurel]

ooh they only doing it to hate on her cuz of her relation with NJ.

[grizzled summit]

did u see njz's new logo motion? they're getting their super shy vibes back!!!! im so excited!!!!!

[short laurel]

i kinda hope they didn't cuz that could work as additional evidence i think?

[grizzled summit]

can we be friends ^^

[short laurel]

turns out this is incorrect to some extent. i've seen them hating on individual memebrs on reddit in order to defend the company.

[half knot]

I feel like as incompetent as ador and hybe may be, they wouldn't leave a financial dispute in place as a glaring issue for the NJZ lawyers to pounce on, so I suspect the girls ARE getting paid in a timely manner

[grizzled summit]

yh something like that

[stiff prairie]

What's new today

[frozen granite]

Media play …

& that one band shakatak is suing NJZ

[stiff prairie]

For what???

[wind monolith]

i genuinely can only find one article for shakatak
https://www.msn.com/en-my/entertainment/news/shakatak-the-british-band-suing-k-pop-girl-group-newjeans/ss-AA1zWL7b

[half knot]

yeah this is old news and they wouldn't sue newjeans, they would sue ador the copyright holder as well as potentially the songwriters

[wind monolith]

ya idk it just seems like mediaplay to me

[half knot]

it reads like those bot/AI scrapers just came up with something from old stuff

[stiff prairie]

Is that 1 paragraph the whole thing? Doesn't say anything why they are suing

[frozen granite]

Yeah it was that one, why did they release another one if it is old though?

[wind monolith]

ya i dont get y its even posted cuz this shakatak stuff was old when bubble came out

[short laurel]

mostly likely msn AI doing this. i don't c the article on the website they scraped it from.

[red thorn]

New case or old case

[stiff prairie]

The bubblegum plagiarism thingy? Wasn't it a nothing burger? I didn't even know the other party sued them. But who are they suing the current njz or old ador

[wind monolith]

they would be suing ador no they hold the copyrights

[red thorn]

I mean new move by shakatak or the news rehashing old news

[short laurel]

it's mostly likely old news scraped by AI

the website they scraped it from barely runs

[cerulean lake]

i hope it’s some old news that got scraped up

why would that band sue after almost a whole year 😵‍💫 plus ador at that time sent out a whole well constructed response to it and showed evidence to show that what they did wasn’t plagiarism

[frozen granite]

What if HYBE is prompted them to release the article ?

[short laurel]

it's just AI doing it's BS. it's nothing burger so no need to worry. if it was a new news it'll be on every media platform by now.

[cinder narwhal]

yeah there's nothing on kr news

and with another plagiarism case twitter and reddit won't let you not hear about it but it's quiet now so

[upbeat stream]

I'm quite confident that Shakatak was a plant by hybe to kick mhj out. Her shareholders agreement had a clause where if she causes more monetary damage than a specified limit, she could be removed from CEO.

Now that's in the rear view mirror, there's no way their own plant would sue them lol

[short laurel]

No, it was hybe stans making edited video to show fake plagiarism. that british group only saw that and took action without properly checking. afterwords OG ador settled with them and it ended there. it was nothing more than that.

no monetary damage came from that case.

[kindred estuary]

elle singapore just slapped fraudor with that danielle photoshoot

[waxen musk]

It really feels like there's nothing to worry about these days, which my brain says to not trust, even though everything is going as well as it possibly could. Just one week until 7 March, though.

[steep torrent]

og ador settled with them? I thought they just threatened to sue and it didnt go anywhere

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1895652221146308699

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

There’s no way to confirm or verify this since it was posted on an online forum without any evidence beyond the OP’s story. But here’s the translation—personally, I found it pretty funny.

This guy seems deeply offended by the term 개저씨 (a derogatory term for obnoxious

X · Mar 1, 2025, 1:48 AM

[short laurel]

It didn't go anywhere n og ador did said they contacted them on the issue. Issue most likely was settled then.

[glossy siren]

If she wanted, she could drop everything and spend the rest of her life successfully suing her defamers online, making lots of money.

[south vale]

[stiff prairie]

Ok guys so kmca did their thing, njz released teaser and opened yt, tt, twt accounts, ador said these are creating confusion, Dani collab w Elle and hanni collab w ugg.
Basically that's all happened in the past couple of days right?

[tardy smelt]

yep

[stiff prairie]

K cool cool

Feels bad missing out on the hype of new accounts and teaser smh

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/daisyarcana/status/1895489747939893495

Daisy (@daisyarcana) on X

Mind you I said this in November, we’re only 2 months into 2025 & NJZ has been booked n busy! Don’t listen to the naysayers & keep you thoughts & vibes high for the girls! 🩵

X · Feb 28, 2025, 3:02 PM

dealings/collaborations with men & women
collaboration with a western artist
emotional oranges is a western man & woman duo

[short laurel]

which horoscope account is it? pro NJZ and MHJ or anti MHJ pro NJZ

[steep torrent]

oh thats the same account that did the one accurate reading

[upbeat stream]

As far as I can remember, this account implied that they are against mhj with some of their older predictions but then switched up when most tokkis became pro-mhj

[cinder narwhal]

all their recent predictions have something about march
https://x.com/daisyarcana/status/1862641965071810718
https://x.com/daisyarcana/status/1891652958154063951

Daisy (@daisyarcana) on X

Before any prediction accts. take credit for my work again, March 2025 feels v significant for the kpop/k-entertainment industry (& I’ve been sensing this since Sep. when I did a reading on JK & RM on tt). Idk if it’s directly related to BTS’ contracts or not but it feels big

X · Nov 29, 2024, 11:37 PM

Daisy (@daisyarcana) on X

Possible dates that could be significant in March for kpop: 5, 11, 15, 17, 18, 28?

‘8’ seems significant though, so I’ll put more emphasis on the 18 & 28 ig. But take this with a grain of salt, I’m testing my intuition with dates! 💫

X · Feb 18, 2025, 12:56 AM

interesting, wonder if it'll be because of njz domino effect

[fierce cloak]

this account is just saying most generic things so ofc it's gonna be somewhat accurate

this is the tactic of any fortune teller, just say any generic bullsh*t and everyone "wow that's so me, that's so true"

[short laurel]

actually. when they made post about "nj be against MHJ" it included something about things getting better in november. and end of november girls terminated their contract. so they got lucky guess there lol

[short laurel]

i c. switch up is funny.

[short laurel]

march is v significant cuz NJZ debut!

[orchid field]

https://x.com/minotaurkard/status/1895856754594103702?s=46&t=FGOk5JcS6vsxMTTizzNPiQ

NJZ Mino (@MinotaurKard) on X

Long read but if you want to know why someone like me who has never supported a group fully supports NJZ and MHJ.

My Story

I've never fully supported a group before this feud. I was a casual fan who first discovered NJZ through Ditto, then Get Up → Gods. I didn't buy a single

X · Mar 1, 2025, 3:20 PM

Long read but if you want to know why someone like me who has never supported a group fully supports NJZ and MHJ.

My Story

I've never fully supported a group before this feud. I was a casual fan who first discovered NJZ through Ditto, then Get Up → Gods. I didn't buy a single album from KPOP. I would just stream NJZ's music because it was incredible. I also found out about MHJ and 250, and what kind of people they were, but I still didn't fully stan the group.

Then the articles came out when I was in Korea. Thousands of articles flooded in over two to three days....you couldn’t avoid them even if you wanted to.

The whole country read these articles. It was mainstream news, dominating every online platform. Every popular reality TV show was talking about it. Every political show. Every YouTube news segment. The entire nation saw what HYBE had leaked.

At first, I didn’t care, but something didn’t add up. Even if we were to assume that all those documents are real (for the sake of argument) , legally, it just didn’t make sense. Someone who only owns 20% of a company (18% was the actual number, though early reports said 20%) cannot simply “steal” it. Even if you "use the media".

Then there were claims that MHJ met with the head of the Saudi National Fund, Dunamu, and Naver. Even if we assume those claims were true (they aren't), they would still have to purchase ADOR’s private stocks from HYBE. In other words, ADOR couldn’t be sold or taken over unless HYBE willingly sold their share.....which isn’t illegal.

At this point, I still did not support or "defend" NJZ or MHJ. I didn’t feel the need to. But I was curious...

Then came the press conference announcement and thats when it all changed. I realized HYBE was manipulating the public with their media usage.

Right BEFORE the press conference, Korean media published hundreds of articles claiming MHJ was into “shamanism,” even using edited Kakaotalk messages as evidence. To most international fans, this would just make her seem a full lunatic, but in Korea, it carries a much deeper implication. Korean shamanism is widely practiced and somewhat accepted in society especially in business, farming, and end-of-year rituals etc. However, it has a terrible reputation among successful women due to a past scandal involving a former president (npr.org/sections/thetw…).

That was the moment I knew HYBE wanted to destroy this woman’s reputation before she even had a chance to defend herself.

MHJ didn’t start this fight. HYBE did.

If HYBE had simply voted her out after restructuring the board (which they fully have the rights to do, since they own 80% of ADOR), I wouldn’t be supporting MHJ right now.

But HYBE didn’t stop there...

If HYBE had never released those SoMu videos...

If they hadn’t stalked NJZ using Dispatch...

If they hadn’t smeared the members' parents as overbearing "helicopter parents"...

If they hadn’t weaponized H’s visa situation to fuel racist hate...

If they hadn’t tried to turn the members against each other...

If they hadn’t used Korea’s biggest cyber-wreckers against NJZ...

If HYBE employees hadn’t trashed NJZ on Blind-app..

(And so much more)
.
I wouldn’t be here supporting NJZ right now.

HYBE never cared about NJZ, its fans, and its identity.

So yeah, NJZ is going to be my first, last, and only group that I will ever stan and support.

[short laurel]

the fact that even if MHJ tried to get new investment for ador and take more control of ador as hybe claims, it'll still be legal.

[copper jetty]

Also with the investors like dunamu... Hybe would need to approve those transactions before she can be able to sell it that's why I'm surprised people believe Hybe's accusations. Smh

[glossy siren]

surprising yes, maybe more saddening, if we think about it, MHJ is exactly what Kpop stans have been asking for all along: a competent CEO with good work ethics toward idols, an honest and direct approach to public communication and a creatively driven vision instead of just money-grabbing. Yet, the moment someone like that arrives, bam, let's make her the witch of the town. Quite dystopic.

[glossy siren]

"So yeah, NJZ is going to be my first, last, and only group that I will ever stan and support." eeeeh, don't limit your fun like this, too extreme you never know

[glossy siren]

Guys I found something really interesting (use the translate button)

x/ https://x.com/blmk313/status/1895951453015118214?t=PX4cjuwXmbd6T497GohMYw&s=19

[stable escarp]

Thats a cool theory ngl. Fits very well. Wouldnt be surprised if its actual the thought process behind everything considering she had a whole 7 years planned out.

[olive tulip]

This is so cool!!

[cinder narwhal]

real. I think if I really paid attention I think I'll like kiikii 😅

[glossy siren]

I like them a lot, cool new entry

[frozen granite]

Wait didn’t MHJ once post a story of this anime ??

Unico does give me NJZ vibes

[jolly junco]

off topic, but when that ex-idol public court hearing from 1 of the big 3 company start, i dont think you will stan another group again after this

kpop is fcked up

[short laurel]

Issue with mhj is sm had been using her as scapegoat for so much bs over the years n intl stand are just blowing that up most of the time as excuse for hating her. With propaganda against her over this long period that intly ppl just not want her even though she's exactly what they've been asking for.

[short laurel]

The reason is kpop is not as loved or respected by many intly. It's very different from what kpop stans keep trying to spread online. Nj is the 1st kpop group for many music fans n them seeing all this happening only showed them how messed up the industry is. That's why so many bunnies say these words

It's quite ironic. Hybe n 5 kpop associations keep saying that nj are harming kpop when it's these guys who are doing it by harming nj.

[steep torrent]

*x -c https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1895829285501616241?s=46

[harsh dove]

@cato_o_o <t:1740835899:d>

Article

Sept 23 2022

Actress Lee Sun-bin Wins again in Appeal in 500 Million krw Contract Dispute with Former Agency

Agency: "Lee Sun-bin Violated Exclusive Contract"
Lee Sun-bin: "The Contract Had Already Been Terminated" Appeal Dismissed "Agency Failed to Fulfill+"

Link👇

[steep torrent]

no way they don't win this

[frozen granite]

Oh NJZ will so win

[tawdry vessel]

i'll believe when i see it

[stiff prairie]

yeah her case was related to finances which can be proved on pen and paper more easily. our case is more dependant on the interpretation of the contracts sadly.

there was a thing hybe sent a lot of money from ador to their gaming section and messed with the numbers too but idk how illegal that is

[short laurel]

those things happen while ador got controlled by hybe. does it affect the other 2 shareholder (MHJ and her team) shares value ? if so then maybe?

[upbeat stream]

The point of that case is that unilateral termination is indeed recognized by korean justice system, whereas a lot of people are saying that njz can't terminate unilaterally at all, they had to go to court

[short laurel]

We've shown multiple successful cases of unilateral contract termination by artists in the k entertainment industry.
Stans still not changing their mind. They don't care what is in law or not, only defending hybe.

[stiff prairie]

mmm i think the contract termination part is very easily winnable and that they won't be forced to go back to hybe. the main issue is who pays whom the money for the breach that led to the termination.

now that i think about it, ador's lawsuit was to determine validity of the termination itself not claim damages but i think court will decide the amount due to either party in the same lawsuit

[copper jetty]

I think the reasons also for the contract termination would come in here. No doubt NJZ team did the correct termination step by step but the main thing here would be the reason for termination. Would it be enough for the court to determine if Hybe breached the contract, and for sure we'll be able to see what NJZ went through with current ADOR and Hybe.

[red thorn]

Yeah, the ground for termination the one that would be contested I believe

[waxen musk]

I was reading the comments of a small K-pop thread that is part of a large general forum, and they've started talking about NJZ and I'm really restraining myself from trying to correct them, because it's ultimately a waste of time. They admitted to be trying to be caught up by following the /r/kpop megathread, which is no surprise.

I want to ask a question though. How are people who are into K-pop generally meant to get the truth about what's happening with NJZ? Even this Discord thread is hidden away and is as good as you get for specific discussion without misinformation, but it's so hard to find a place that compiles everything to help people out. If I were to correct the people in that forum thread, it would take me a while to figure out how to explain things properly and with sources that might take me some time to rediscover. I'm just frustrated.

I've had one friend in my Discord messages that I've been keeping up to date ever since Bunnies Camp and even that took a lot of effort to explain. He isn't even into K-pop but he likes to know what's going on with NJZ.

Help me out lol.

[fleet nebula]

I mean, if they're not gonna take the time to do thorough research and spread misinformation that's on them, instead of worrying about correcting them, you can just wait it out for the suits to resolve it for the world to be notified after our victory then giggle at them for being so wrong

[waxen musk]

My frustrations seem to come from seeing the misinformation spread about and ending up in places where nobody is challenging what they think they know. That's why I was almost tempted to step in.

And the thing is I don't think the majority of people wanting to keep up to date on one of the biggest stories in K-pop history are generally haters. But haters spread the misinformation and then people just read that and nothing else. What do you expect them to think?

I do think waiting to see how things will inevitably go well for NJZ will help a little but it's hard not to think that it won't just magically correct all the misinformation people have been fed for the majority of a year.

Anyway lets forget about that. Sorry for anyone reading my yaps again.

I genuinely have started envisioning things going so well that I'm worried I'm a bit delusional about just how well things will go. So I want to ask what are the most likely things we should actually worry about?

Is it just things like the potential exclusions from Korean charts, music shows, etc.?

[gentle badger]

Nothing, worrying won't do you any good, just wait and see what happens! (Hopefully only good things)

[waxen musk]

That's the thing, I'm not worried and start thinking maybe I should be at least realistic about some things that could happen that are less than ideal.

[upbeat stream]

Realistically, the main lawsuit could still go either way but it'll take so long that I think a settlement is most likely

Especially because actually collecting the claimed damages will be difficult

[waxen musk]

I'm not sure what "actually collecting the claimed damages" means tbh

[upbeat stream]

And also because ador owns something that is worth a lot to njz right now but is a depreciating asset: the name 'NewJeans' and its assosciated brand. Over time, as njz gets more established, newjeans' value diminishes, it's in ador's best interest to sign a deal quickly to get a bigger cut

[waxen musk]

I do wonder about a world where NJZ grows naturally to be the same size or bigger than they were when they were called NewJeans and they just abandon that name. Of course the name brings with it all the stuff attached to it (old songs, MVs, merch, etc.) which is more important. But I can almost see it being fine if they never got rights to their old name.

What type of deal would Ador want to sign? Obviously giving up the name completely to NJZ would basically admit defeat and Ador would have no reason to exist.

[upbeat stream]

Ok, so this is kinda the worst case scenario, but if they are indeed gonna lose, their legal team will know well in advance, and they can move whatever little assets they have out of korea. They can themselves move to a foreign country too, like Japan, US or even HK. And because of the nature of this case, where a beloved artist is fighting a corporate, korean government is not gonna pursue the case overseas, not a chance. Sorry, I know it's wildly speculative, but my mind likes to race ahead.

[waxen musk]

Oh I see what you meant.

[upbeat stream]

I've said this before but a % cut from all profits. Idk what exactly, but perhaps somewhere around 20-30%?

[waxen musk]

Just for the name? I wouldn't take that deal lol. But obviously it's not as simple as that.

Eh whatever, as long as they aren't restricted in any major way and can release new music and perform freely that's really all I care about. I just wonder if anything is going to really restrict them.

[upbeat stream]

Not getting blackballed, not mired in lawsuits for years

I would take it

[waxen musk]

Yeah I can see reasons for and against.

I've already seen people trying to prepare everyone to not expect big stream numbers, etc.

I'm really curious to see if they can naturally reach similar heights, which would be impressive, but they are starting from 0 on different platforms. Tbh IG getting 5.2M followers already is a really great sign. Also their old songs go viral ALL the time, I wish I knew exactly just how that keeps happening. They've got ad deals that will put them in the public eye just like before. They may even have support from Line Friends if that NYC billboard was any indication.

I wish I was there at debut, because apparently that was a slow but steady burn over a couple of months until things got very big for them. All of this is really going to be exciting to witness if history repeats itself.

I just hope people won't be annoying when things don't go crazy good. But tbh I see things going well enough.

[red thorn]

It's only defeat for ador if njz fought for the nj ip and won with zero settlement

[quartz creek]

Does anyone else think that NJZ being under Jennies entertainment rumor could possibly be true?

[tardy smelt]

probably not since jennie recently said she's too busy to consider signing new artists, we should take her word for it

[cinder narwhal]

they'll sign under edam

I still like bana the most even if they denied it lol

[waxen musk]

Surely we'll know before the 23rd, right? Right...?

[jolly junco]

anything new since yesterday?

[stiff prairie]

yes we have to wait 1 less day for ComplexCon

[cinder narwhal]

what court dates do we have for march

[stable escarp]

Oh wow 4 more days

If the redebut at complex con goes viral then if they win the lawsuit itll hopefully propel them even more

[cinder narwhal]

slay

[short laurel]

okay. regradless og how much one hate nj, there's no way they can say "nobody know them". their drama is in media waaaay toooooo much all thx to hybe's dirty money.

it's to the point that even a hermit would know them by now.

[stable escarp]

Fr even my gronky friends from aus knows abt it 😭

[frozen granite]

Am I the only one who hates all of this ? We could’ve been getting a lot of new songs with the similar concept & now we won’t be able to see the entire story that MHJ had planned out :c I am happy for the girls just hate hybe sabotaged them

[short laurel]

everyone hates this. u r not alone.

[mental lynx]

nah we will see the full story with mhj dw

just without hybe idiots

[frozen granite]

I just hope they don’t deviate too much from the previous concept … I know they are going to change it a bit, I just hope it’s not too much

[mental lynx]

i get what you mean but im sure we will all be dancing and singing once the new song releases

[copper jetty]

everyone hates it. I remember after Supernatural was done promoting we could've had that korean fan meet and the whole newjeans 1st album. That's why i h*te that company with a passion right now. All those thing we could've had, but i guess it's better for them to be out of that company now rather than later.

There's only a couple of days left before the advertisement injunction, I'm surprised there's not much hit pieces of articles out or maybe i haven't been on tokki twitter that much this week.

[stable escarp]

Maybe theyve given up and accepted defeat

[upbeat stream]

Maybe the rumored dispatch article was just that, a rumor

I thought they would closer to the trial but no sign yet

[red thorn]

There's only money today's article
Silly hybdor favoured article

[upbeat stream]

I don't mind pro-hybe articles, I just do not want leaks anymore ffs

Especially because the rumor on k-forums was that dispatch is gonna say that there's tension between member(s) and their family. That is very scary shit, I'm so glad we have gotten nothing

[storm warren]

there was an expectation for mediaplay and another round of lies but the creation of njz pr account as well as njz's activity has basically destroyed their momentum

njz pr destroyed whatever plans they had, they also swiftly dealt with 10Asia and absolutely disrupted 5 organizations' plans

and i also believe they are taking all necessary legal actions behind the scenes

[copper jetty]

idk if they would give up... maybe, maybe not. They might just be betting for the whole court case to end.

yeah that's why i was grateful with the creation of njz_pr. 1st time it was created, idk if it was kpop fans or tokkis but they were a little bit doubtful of that account... I'm really glad that it's helpful to the girls.

[waxen musk]

Why do I feel like it's possible they'll release this song earlier than they initially said, maybe even before all the legal things start.

[craggy skiff]

Agree. It will be a big surprise

[waxen musk]

I just hope they aren't doing certain things BECAUSE of the uncertainty over the legal proceedings.

I won't lie, it kind of looks like they made this one new song and it hasn't seemed like they are particularly working on MORE stuff after that for now. But we can never really tell tbh.

[short laurel]

a surprise release tomorrow would be a nice birthday gift.

[stiff prairie]

happy birthday!!

[short laurel]

Tomorrow but thank you

[stiff prairie]

i'm wishing in advance cause i might not remember lol

[copper jetty]

Happy birthday namiko!!!

[copper jetty]

They'll probably release this prior to 23. It just make sense to release it before the concert. Hopefully.

[waxen musk]

They did specifically say they will debut the new song at ComplexCon, so if they do release it early it just goes against what they said. But it feels like it's very possible.

[copper jetty]

maybe a debut of performance but not necessarily the song???

[waxen musk]

I dunno, I don't want to expect too much. They've said what they've said and everyone else is hoping for way more than what they said.

[copper jetty]

yeah. It's just that we're so hungry for new music from them. Not to mention, their previous team is still with them and Hybe is no longer there to disrupt their juju. I'm not saying that Hybe isn't doing anything to sabotage them anymore but at least there's (hopefully) nothing holding them back anymore, at least on the inside.

[waxen musk]

Rich Brain, Indonesian rapper followed NJZ and reposted on his Instagram Story an NJZ post. https://www.instagram.com/stories/brianimanuel/
He is under 88rising.

Also how did I not know about this?

In April 2022, 88rising performed at Coachella with a showcase titled Head in the Clouds Forever, including performances by CL, 2NE1, Hikaru Utada, Jackson Wang, Rich Brian, Bibi, Niki, Milli and Warren Hue. They also released a single of the same name including three tracks featuring Bibi, Utada, Hue and Rich Brian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88rising

• CL
• 2NE1
• Hikaru Utada
• Bibi

These names have been very close to NJZ recently.

Rina Sawayama was formerly under 88rising, too.

The girls have all been in contact with these 88rising artists, it makes so much sense.

[cinder narwhal]

88rising is basically like a gateway for Asian artists into america

[frozen granite]

What is 88rising ?

Is it a label or what?

[cinder narwhal]

they run head in the clouds festival too

[cinder narwhal]

yes

[frozen granite]

Are they sort of nugu or no ?

[cinder narwhal]

if you follow/listen to Asian artists in America you know them

[waxen musk]

Anything to be concerned about with them or would they be a good choice?

[cosmic belfry]

Hmm 88 has kinda been in a slump. Mostly running their festival. Their artists haven't made much waves recently.

[frozen granite]

Do you guys think they are signed under them ? (based on that answer ^ I hope not)

[cosmic dagger]

not really a slump its just that the major artists in the label havent been making music for what i see

[cosmic belfry]

Some of the criticism lies in they haven't really been collabing with each other in the label like before. Now they all kinda release stuff independently.

[frozen granite]

Lowkey Ador (the original) was such a cute name for so many ADORable puns … wish none of this had happened stupid HYBE … I wonder who they are under

[cosmic belfry]

On the other hand, NJZ could be a catalyst for them. Nothing controversial about them as a label as far as I know. They were hitting their peak as a label pre-covid and just never recovered.

[red thorn]

I do prefer pre-88eising Atarashii Gakko's music, but their media production really solid tho

[waxen musk]

No big red flags then. I'll have to research them a bit more.

Taly posted saying people should be hesistant on the speculation because of what happened last time with the media play.

[steep torrent]

only thing I heard about them is they treated joji pretty bad, forcing him to perform when he was unhealthy and stuff

I hope that rumor is not true

[waxen musk]

Anyway all this speculation was reignited because of an artist following NJZ. Really not much to go on.

It's just the artists under 88rising that I listed above which have been in contact with the girls recently that actually opened my eyes the most.

[frozen granite]

No shade, but NJZ would benefit a lot more from another label who is more well-known

[waxen musk]

Bigger is better for exposure but also scarier and have more control.

[frozen granite]

True, true …

[tardy smelt]

loved 88rising's stuff back in the day

[bronze jetty]

88rising was great before it went downhill

[tardy smelt]

they're pretty well known, made the soundtrack for Shang Chi if you're into Marvel

big representation for Asian American culture

[waxen musk]

Will the girls have to physically attend the court hearings starting on Friday?

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/talytokki/status/1896738759355531524

taly (@talytokki) on X

lol I don’t think a simple repost by an artist from 88rising means anything.

last time bunnies speculated about which company NJZ signed to, HYBE and their besties at TenAsia got involved—so just be careful with the speculations…

X · Mar 4, 2025, 1:45 AM

[tardy smelt]

on another note, i'm loving that artists i used to listen to in high school are coming back into my life through NJZ. NIKI (she was on one of Hanni's playlists), Emotional Oranges, now Rich Brian. worlds colliding.

[copper current]

I don't hate them but Starship plans to use them to fight against NJZ, their debut March 24 is one eyesore for me.

[craggy skiff]

Are they the group that "replaces and fills the void left by newjeans"?

[cinder narwhal]

nothing against them but it certainly feels so

[jolly junco]

any group who deliberately debut with NJZ date is setting their own group to fail of course they will get attention because of the same date debut but if they failed the public expectation with their music they will surely fail in the future

[short laurel]

Some hybe group is probably having a cb on around the same week. They always do this.

[frozen granite]

I was trying to be civil with one of the other fandoms & they kept attacking me

[short laurel]

Welcome to kpop fandom community.

[copper current]

Yup that is the group with the company who tries every way to copy and stir reversing marketing.

[copper current]

What if they manipulated charts and media play about winning against NJZ, I hate company using reverse tactics by comparing. They targeted SM girl group first but pushed the debut date after hearing NJZ comeback on March 23. I am waiting to see what they are planning to do. Their album orders may surpass SM new group so they can media play and they may use NJZ as well saying they beats NJZ, let’s wait and see

Album order number can be falsely altered based on the tactics used by other groups so I am not surprised if this group uses the same

[short laurel]

Doesn't matter. They like to call everyone flop even when groups selling 200k albums. Which is already a really good number.
Regardless of what media says, we'll c numbers nj songs makes on streaming site easily crossing millions n that's what matters. Doesn't matter how much other groups makes.

[copper current]

I don’t care much about numbers as long as NJZ members are happy doing what they like. I just don’t like some bullies like Starship tries to ruin the happiness of them. It is like a real life social class room. When people see a person is bullied, In stead of standing up to help the person, people side with the bully and try to get benefits more from the bullied person. In this case, Starship sees how bad Hybe mistreated NJZ and now they want to step on NJZ to gain benefits. Their new girl group and then their new boy group with same “New…something” name tries to get NJZ algorithm. I was taught to live without harming or stealing from others to gain benefits since that will lead to ruins. So seeing how evil Starship tries to gain benefits from NJZ makes me feel uncomfortable

I just hope that good people like NJZ will be protected from these evil and rise

[cinder narwhal]

new kids on the block existed WAY before newjeans cmon 😭

[short laurel]

unfortunately that's common in kpop. best we can do is ignore them and focus on NJZ alone. NJZ seeing us supporting them will be more happy than them seeing us fighting other groups.

[short laurel]

remember when ppl used to celebrate 250k album sales. now even 1million sellers are called flop.

[copper current]

Yup that is what I will do. I know they treated their best group badly same as how Hybe treated NJZ so they tried to push out 2 groups to replace the best group since members are renewing this year. I just hope they will not succeed in using NJZ and the other group since they may use that tactics on their future groups and more victims will be harmed by Starship. I hope NJZ karma can end them.

[short laurel]

it's something that's being happening for long time. change will come only when SK make proper laws around this. it's been under discussion at national assembly so hopefully soon.

[craggy skiff]

yes. I thought how sweet really flop until find out it still is the best sale compare to other gen4 group last year

[short laurel]

in right circle even 100k sales is success, in wrong circle even 5 million sales is flop. kpoppies just like to compare for drama.

n not to mention sales being inflated cuz of gacha photocards.

nj did million without that

[cerulean lake]

i mean how sweet didn’t live up to the same success as get up but it was still pretty successful in korea.

ppl were making it seem like they just completely tanked but given the situation they were in and the abysmal promotion due to hybe literally trying to sabotage their comeback by announcing the audit, how sweet didn’t do too bad

i also think it was a more polarizing song and not as catchy as their past ones, which is why it didn’t do as well as get up, but still relatively well

[cerulean lake]

true. honestly, fandoms like to say they don’t care abt achievements here and there but i’m pretty sure they actually do deep down because other fandoms literally use a lack of achievements as a way to harass groups and their fandoms by calling them “flops”

[mild mist]

As did the new seekers
etc.

[short laurel]

i think if we stop comparing to get up. how sweet did really really good. alot of people also not like get up as much compared to ditto but liked how sweet more than get up.
also in kpop many times previous releases often affects how much sales new album will do. imo much of get up sales was thx to popularity build up from ditto.

[short laurel]

if u look at kpop from outside u'll c much of achievements are very inflated n not really valued at all. numbers on songs on spotify and mv on youtube are from ads and streaming for the sake of mushows. much of it's award shows are more of politics between labels than actual success of groups.

[gentle badger]

Happy birthday Namiko!

[short laurel]

Thank you

[jolly junco]

Agree

Kpop are only “successful” within kpop, their numbers arent real

[midnight yarrow]

Eh. I wouldn't go that far. It's still important to get good results. That + a very efficient budget management is why NJZ paid off their debt in record time while setting every record imaginable.

They just repeated as the top artist on the year end Gallup Survey and their songs from 2022 are still charting. I'm not worried about their numbers

[copper current]

I just saw a song that is tying in number with Gangnam style, I have never heard that song and I don’t care about that singer but yeah the inflated number is foul play. No one cares about that overrated song anyway besides that person’s fans. For NJZ I believe their numbers will always be real

[upbeat stream]

Are you talking about APT? That song is genuinely massive and the biggest kpop song since Gangnam, but yes, you are right that APT is almost certainly on an extended autoplay deal with youtube

Drake and Future's Life is Good had the same deal

[copper current]

Nope, I talk about “who” by Jimin, haven’t heard that song yet

[upbeat stream]

oh lol you mentioned Gangnam Style which does not have good spotify streams, only youtube whereas Who is the opposite, that's why I thought you're talking about APT. Who is definitely botted no doubt

[stiff prairie]

who got it's stream numbers cut off by ~80M in two phases last couple of months and it still has ~1.45B streams after spotify cleansed it's bot numbers. but i'm yet to listen to this once.

[upbeat stream]

Most fraud kpop songs ever are Ko-ko bop in korea and Who internationally

[short laurel]

Yea, we were talking about kpop in general. For nj they are real. We know for a fact that they can't have much promotion with hybe sobtage.
And as i mentioned above, nj did multiple million sellers without gacha pc. Many other kpop did so with gacha. Making nj achievement more credible in many fans eyes. Though there was mass buying for fan meeting n fan calls. I wish they could come up with something to solve this one.

[stiff prairie]

other songs with such massive numbers whether you like it or not you'll be forced to listen to it

[short laurel]

Did Spotify even exist on gangnam style era?

[midnight yarrow]

If it did, nobody cared about it. International streaming wasn't a big focus until around 2018

[short laurel]

True. It did actually exist i just checked but was not much popular as u said

[upbeat stream]

But plenty of older songs have billions of streams, it's just that Gangnam was specifically a youtube phenomenon. What's the point of listening to it if you are not watching that iconic video. It still pulls over 1 M views per day which is insane

[short laurel]

Psy paved the way in intl market honestly.

[midnight yarrow]

Wonder Girls were actually the first K-Pop group to make it to the Billboard Hot 100

[short laurel]

There were plenty Kpop group known in many markets even be4 gangnam style. Just not everywhere. Gangnam style got nearly everywhere through YouTube.
Bts made it n promoted well to us market which is the loudest n so ppl only notice them while ignoring previous artists.

N members used social media well

[midnight yarrow]

People tend to exaggerate how "nugu" K-Pop was pre-BTS/BP. It was rapidly growing before them. Those two just had the biggest breakthroughs

[short laurel]

This is what i understand atleast.

[upbeat stream]

It also downplays China, Japan and SEA where kpop broke way before them

[waxen musk]

I still think the only K-pop groups that if you ask a random person they will likely said they've heard of are only Gangnam Style (not even Psy himself, just the song), BTS and Blackpink. It's really not that many. I don't think Wonder Girls ever got to that level of recognition. At least here in the UK.

Also I saw a lot of people having no idea who Lisa was at the Oscars. I was also surprised to hear a billion people watch the Oscars.

I don't worry about NewJeans' songs getting forgotten any time soon, so I hope NJZ can get the rights to those. It's impressive how long lasting they've been. Still going viral to this very day.

I had confidence about their future success after remembering how quickly they gained followers on Instagram and seeing them talked about on Korean news for their new teasers. But it's really hard to judge exactly how limited they will be compared to before. Things like their Twitter account having less followers than impersonator accounts doesn't help with that confidence.

[short laurel]

ask older people. u'll find some. here in india we had no idea about who SNSD is. yet there are old clothing store with old banner of SNSD. it's there cuz slightly older people know about them. and it's from era when affordable internet was still very far from accessibility. in this country

there's also fifty fifty. so many knows cupid but so few actually knows about the their case.

[craggy skiff]

Yup. Got impersonator on every platform is such a pain in as*.
Looks like a new report campaign is starting

[midnight yarrow]

NJZ are way too big to fail at this point. They're already a legendary K-Pop group and not even 3 years old yet. I would never worry about anyone forgetting them. Especially in Korea where everyone is still very much obsessed with them and their faces are everywhere. I laugh at certain company stans who desperately downplay and doompost about their status in Korea, when the members are the Global Ambassadors of Korean Tourism and the first faces you see when you fly into Incheon Airport lol

[waxen musk]

Yeah it’s just how much of that naturally transfers over to NJZ is the question.

[upbeat stream]

Did you guys hear about Xiumin being blocked from music bank? Makes me queasy

[waxen musk]

Who?

[upbeat stream]

It'll be so sad if the same happens to njz 😢

[waxen musk]

How big or important is Music Bank? Obviously the big end of year events are cool.

[upbeat stream]

Xiumin of exo

[midnight yarrow]

It's just a public broadcast music show like M countdown and Inkigayo

[waxen musk]

I just feel like even with these restrictions in place I don’t know if it will be that big a deal.

There are so many other opportunities.

[midnight yarrow]

Their popularity in Korea? All of it. Internationally? We'll see but I don't really care about that right now.

The NJZ/HYBE war is a domestic dispute right now. Still being a K-Pop superpower in Korea and thriving without that dumpster fire of a company is what matters right now, especially with court cases looming

[waxen musk]

Yes it seems like everyone in Korea is aware.

[upbeat stream]

Idk about that but I love music shows. The fancams, the interviews, encores, and idols get genuinely happy when they win those trophies

[midnight yarrow]

If any Bunny spent just 30 minutes in Seoul, you wouldn't worry about NJZ's popularity there lol

[waxen musk]

I wonder if NJZ will pivot to more of a non-Korean approach.

[midnight yarrow]

If they actually end up collaborating with an IP as massive as Mario, I'll flip tf out. It would also be a huge middle finger to HYBE

It's MHJ. So I wouldn't put anything past her. Nobody saw the PPG collab coming

[waxen musk]

It would be unexpected because of how Nintendo operates, but makes sense for the Japanese market. I wish Dani didn’t hint at playing games because now everyone’s speculations feel somewhat confirmed.

[upbeat stream]

If I remember right, Dani doesn't play games. Or at least she has never indicated that she does

[waxen musk]

I thought so too.

[midnight yarrow]

Yeah I didn't think it was anything more than speculation until I saw Dani being Dani and giving not vague at all hints. And NJZ collaborating with an IP that big would be a massive W in their court cases too

Also I just want to see the reddit meltdowns and cope sessions

[waxen musk]

Mario Kart is quite literally one of the best selling games ever. It would be such a big deal for NJZ recognition it’s unimaginable. I don’t see it happening because I don’t know what Nintendo gains from it. They don’t need NJZ for marketing. Marketing a new Mario Kart alongside the Switch 2 alone is big enough.

[stiff prairie]

bro stop daydreaming

[waxen musk]

So I’m trying to think of other game related things.

[upbeat stream]

It could be a generic video game concept

[waxen musk]

I’ve been at work for 20 minutes and nothing is happening. I can daydream lol.

[stiff prairie]

mario kart ain't happening. just be happy we're finally getting music smh

[brazen ice]

arcade racing game concept is amazing tho

[waxen musk]

Yeah. Most likely imo.

[hoary frost]

Maybe it's a Luigi concept

Mangione i mean. Watch out Bang PD

[midnight yarrow]

Whatever it is, their team remains genius level at building hype

It shows exactly why the girls are fighting so hard and even risked their careers to stay with them

[waxen musk]

It’s already exciting and unexpected based on the visuals shown so far and it’s not much.

I’ll say it again but I wish I could feel this way for things more than just NJZ.

Basically only feel that way for Switch 2 games like a new mainline Mario and Zelda, and Half-Life 3. It’s nice to have things to look forward to in your life but I’m a bit limited.

[short laurel]

Fortnite

[waxen musk]

I don’t care other than realising how big it will be for NJZ. Did you see that on one of Fortnite’s socials they used NewJeans music like two weeks ago? Not many people noticed.

[short laurel]

Man is big. He'll be fine without mushows. Same as jyj n ailee. Banned in korean mushow but performing internationally lol

[waxen musk]

Why did that happen?

[short laurel]

Kpop companies suppressing idols who go against them. That's all.

[upbeat stream]

Anyone with a strong fanbase will be ok. But clips from mushows are a big reason why songs go viral in korea, so if njz is completely banned (please god no) then they may not chart as well as before. Like top 10-20 instead of 1-2. Just saying this to set our expectations low. That way if they do end up over-performing, we'll be so happy

[waxen musk]

Anyway I like more in depth discussion in here even if it’s maybe not the purpose of this thread. Sometimes I yap a lot and end up not having people join in outside this thread. Gotta work now.

[short laurel]

But is xiumin actually blocked? It's illegal to do so now

[upbeat stream]

It's illegal but very difficult to enforce, kbs can say we didn't have enough slots, there were other artists that deserved it more, etc.

Kinda like anti-discrimination laws, it happens all the time but only the most blatant cases are stopped by the law

[short laurel]

Njz case will be very blatant atleast

[upbeat stream]

If these music shows were united in calling SM's bullshit, then SM would've had to back down, they can't afford to not have their artists on music shows. But unfortunately, nobody in corporate Korea has a spine

[midnight yarrow]

NJZ don't really need music shows to rise up the charts. They're kind of a statistical anomaly that way. They're usually getting all kills on the charts before they even start attending music shows and they only attended a few of them for a short period of time anyway

They even stopped attending mcountdown after 2022 due to the MHJ/Mnet beef, so it was really just music bank and Inkigayo for a couple weeks

[copper current]

They can secretly block him. Outside saying no I don’t block you, when it is his turn, they use different excuse to prevent him from going on stage. That is how bully is doing and this can be applied to NJZ. They don’t say it out loud, they just bully NJZ or Xiumin secretly. Fake people are like that.

[steep torrent]

*x https://x.com/artaechim/status/1896962210590867655?s=46

[harsh dove]

@artaechim <t:1741106009:d>

[steep torrent]

no way its not a racing concept right? feel like they're trolling us hard rn ngl

watch the music in the teasers have nothing to do with the music they'll release though they have posted it 3 times now tho so it probably is a hint

[stable escarp]

I mean if its racing and is a collab with mario kart or F1. This will be on a global scale for a redebut which im hoping for. NJZ in mario kart would be so fire.
Wouldnt even worry about the music atp (Its gonna be good anyways its NJZ).

[quartz creek]

praying it’s a racing concept, it seems so intriguing and exciting

[frozen granite]

I hope it’s a collab with Mario kart

[copper current]

I love super Mario and Mario kart, it would be awesome if we can see the collab

[olive tulip]

It’s Not

[tired cairn]

Hanni in Mario Kart 9 confirmed by Kuki???

[steep torrent]

even the seunii insider account hasnt said anything about njz so they really got this under wraps

[frozen granite]

Omfg 💀

[cinder narwhal]

out of touch with reality

[silk skiff]

Disregarding all the horrid things hybe has done to the girls while hyper focusing on alleged tampering media play on MHJ. Classic tagpr bots.

[cinder narwhal]

is mhj even facing any criminal lawsuits? aren't they all civil

[silk skiff]

Saw some of them drawing parallels of this case with fifty fifty’s which made my blood boil

[silk skiff]

As far as I know they’re all civil

She’s got a criminal one against belift though

[midnight yarrow]

They are all civil. The only thing at stake is money

[cinder narwhal]

lol just yappers who don't know anything then

[half knot]

some of this yapping by the antis are starting to sound like some kind of focused gpt trained bot rather than just tag pr

it's giving very tired, used trope generic comments that are significantly out of touch with recent updates.

"Here's how we can regurgitate reddit comments of the past 9 months in a condensed manner"

[short laurel]

Even if mhj secretly happened to be the wrong one, non of it actually warrent jail time 🤣

N what did they mean by garam case? Everyone aside fearnots knows garam was victim

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/lesbianaminaaa/status/1897117100675883135?s=46

Mina (@LesbianaMinaaa) on X

https://t.co/ScfjnCsTcL tokkis pls like, comment, and repost this tiktok. He’s defending the girls and debunking MHJ pedo allegations. RN there is a bunch of ppl attacking him in the comments, so pls support 🙏🏾

X · Mar 5, 2025, 2:48 AM

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdedkDX6/

Seeing someone defending NJZ and MHJ on these topics on TikTok is so rare I thought I had to share it even if what he says isn’t perfect.

[jolly junco]

its 2 days to go until NJZ injuction hearing, how are we feeling?

[stable escarp]

Relaxed. Nothing can get to me not even the cyclone let alone this injunction. All's well that ends well.

[wind monolith]

Im more worried about my midterm than the injunction☠️

[tardy smelt]

that's the way it should be, save your worries for things in your control

[cinder narwhal]

even if one was worried about it what can you do? just chill and enjoy the ride

[tardy smelt]

straight up. whatever happens, happens.

[waxen musk]

Yeah I’m surprisingly so high off all the teasers and realisation that new music is actually happening to have any real worries for now. I know how much of a rollercoaster it might be though. No media play of any significance for so long feels weird but I’m sure it’ll return back to what we expected soon.

Just wonder what we will learn right away on Friday, even though results will obviously not be instant.

[short laurel]

i m surprised there's been no media play recently. or fansites just not translating them anymore?

[outer canopy]

Will we get the result of the injunction the very same day?

Also does anyone know the time at which it starts 🤔

[waxen musk]

We didn't get it immediately for previous injunctions, so no. I haven't seen anyone mention a time, but afternoon seems likely. But like I asked above, I think maybe we'll get some information coming out about what was discussed on the day but I'm not that sure, maybe we get nothing for weeks.

[hoary frost]

Newjeans won back their trademark btw and theyre performing Attention at Singapore sports hub

[outer canopy]

Well if ADOR stays quiet or throws a tantrum wouldn't the result be somewhat obvious? Since if they were to win (not that I think they will) they will mediaplay the sh** out of it. Unless you can't publicize the result of a legal matter you're apart of immediately in SK, but I'm not familiar with the laws

[waxen musk]

Huh? I've not heard about that. Do you have a link?

[hoary frost]

Me

[stiff prairie]

in case you forgot.
bunnies are liars

[waxen musk]

tbh i misread what hkl said too

[hoary frost]

Im the link

[waxen musk]

Weakest link

[hoary frost]

Wow

[stiff prairie]

how does afternoon seem likely? it'll take week(s) minimum

[hoary frost]

Reported

[waxen musk]

They asked when it starts.

[stiff prairie]

oh i only saw the result part mb

[hoary frost]

Hello Bunnies catzkang on x have been hacked pls do not interact

[stiff prairie]

old

[hoary frost]

No it not

[stiff prairie]

i sent it on the main chat like 2 hrs ago

[waxen musk]

2 hours = old

[hoary frost]

No 💔

[cinder narwhal]

not everyone is online all the time lol

[stiff prairie]

don't take hkl's side

[hoary frost]

March 7th will be a day to rmb

[stiff prairie]

i'm tryna focus on march 23 more. only good vibes from now on

unless positive results come out ofc

[hoary frost]

17 days and 5 minutes

[stiff prairie]

[hoary frost]

Dw ill protect everyone from Njz’s bomb

Njz drops bomb again (no clickbaiy)

[waxen musk]

ETA PTSD

[frozen granite]

What does this injunction mean again? There are a few

[stiff prairie]

only one injunction. njz to be able to work with brands without ador's interference

others are full on lawsuits. but njz only have one. rest are mhj v hybe and co.

[frozen granite]

So this alone will dictate if NJZ can collab or work with brands ? will the results be relayed immediately ?

[wind monolith]

NO injunction results takes time at minimum 2 weeks could be more

[stiff prairie]

yeah. they can work with brands for sure. it won't be lawful to deprive artists of their livelihood until main lawsuit reaches verdict. but the question is will they be able to work w brands without paying any percentage to ador

[upper solstice]

it’s just part of the hysteric glamour jacket

thats an old outfit

[waxen musk]

Good morning

Two posts:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DG1kTo-Tbw4/?img_index=1
https://www.instagram.com/p/DG1kWeUT7iS/?img_index=1

Instagram

Oh FUUUUUUCK Ador and Hybe

Until just a few days ago, Adore had continuously stated its position on NJZ's independent activities, but did not disclose the fact that Adore's injunction application was aimed at prohibiting all entertainment activities.

[cinder narwhal]

Eng https://x.com/TokkiLoops/status/1897438748423676080

. (@TokkiLoops) on X

NJZ-PR

Hello, this is NJZ.

Last Friday, in response to ADOR’s additional statement and to prevent any misunderstandings regarding the injunction scheduled for this week, we feel compelled to clarify our stance.

We formally terminated our exclusive contract with ADOR on

X · Mar 6, 2025, 12:07 AM

[waxen musk]

This injunction just got a whole lot more serious.

[gentle badger]

[kindred estuary]

that sudden scope expansion was not even on the news

[cinder narwhal]

I love njz pr

[cosmic belfry]

Yea I don't see how a judge could grant that given it's their livelihood. It's overly punitive.

[cinder narwhal]

does anyone remember the timeline between the very first mhj injunction hearing and the decision? how many days in between?

[weak relic]

nice

[waxen musk]

Like 2 weeks or something.

[tardy smelt]

let’s win

[frozen granite]

I’m confused … how is this new to what we know?

[waxen musk]

See the part I quoted above. #1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1741219598:f>

from ashbash159

Until just a few days ago, Adore had continuously stated its position on NJZ's independent activities, but did not disclose the fact that Adore's injunction application was aimed at prohibiting all entertainment activities.
[Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[frozen granite]

Ohhhh … I mean I feel like we sort of all knew this since this is FRAUDOR we are talking about lol

Anyway, can njz still perform at complexcon & perform or does this affect them??

[waxen musk]

Nothing has been decided yet so plans haven't changed.

[cinder narwhal]

excited for ador's denial then tomorrow we see the truth

[copper jetty]

Is this the translation of the 2 njz_pr insta post?

Or is it just one?

[craggy skiff]

I wonder what ador gonna response with this.
Since they very big mouth about this injunction only for prevent sponsors from confused
And now they try to stop all actitvities

[kindred estuary]

both post, njz_pr made 2 post with the same photos but it won't fit in the captions so there's 2

[copper jetty]

Ok correct me if I'm wrong but the injuction hearing on Friday wouldn't only include njz advertisement but by Ador being njz's main agent right? So what the hell is the use of the other case filed by Ador regarding the contract validity?

[cinder narwhal]

btw do you guys use a reddit app that's not the official one on mobile? the app I was using broke and the official one sucks ass

[cinder narwhal]

why fight with one sword when you can use two

[midnight zodiac]

is there any chance a judge will side with ador?

[split bramble]

as always depends on the judge

[frozen granite]

So wait NJZ might not perform then?

[upbeat stream]

Because this is an injunction which is granted within 2-3 weeks whereas the lawsuit will take months perhaps years

So people usually file both: injunction holds until the ruling of the main lawsuit

[upbeat stream]

If ador wins, yeah

[frozen granite]

If ADOR wins, NJZ won’t perform ?

[upbeat stream]

Well now that we know the scope, the ruling will happen before March 23rd. If ador wins, njz can't perform

[frozen granite]

What date exactly do we know the results ??

[upbeat stream]

Idk but March 21st is friday, so a good chance we get the ruling then. But definitely before the 23rd

[frozen granite]

Agh this sucks

What are the chances of NJZ winning ?

[upbeat stream]

Surely they gotta win, court siding with ador would mean that only company can terminate contract unilaterally but idols can't. How is that equal or fair?

[copper current]

It is just Korea, they can just perform outside of Korea. Judges of other countries will not be corrupted

[waxen musk]

I think we'll know a lot more tomorrow, so I'm going to restrict myself from saying anything.

[copper current]

That is why NJZ didn’t interact with Korean media anymore. The higher up are full of corruption

[upbeat stream]

Njz are korean artists, I can't be 100% but it probably holds for their overseas activities too. Of course, they can't enforce it in China, but njz may not risk even more legal trouble. Hopefully it'll be rejected

[copper current]

These people are so evil evil evil seriously like step mother

[sage venture]

it's a civil case, so you can't force them to comply other than paying money

that ship has sailed now it's just a matter of how much money NJZ will have to pay

[copper current]

Yeah NJZ can move on with their activities. Hybe can be thugs.

[upbeat stream]

I think it's likely the same judge who ruled on mhj's 2 injunctions. Exact same civil division (50th) so I hope it is the same guy

If korea is gonna be this evil to them (worst case scenario of them losing), maybe relocating to a foreign country is the best option

[sage venture]

you can see the pattern here Remember last time when the recording was released of HYBE’s PR head trying to downplay NJZ’s debut success in Japan? There was a part saying that filing a lawsuit against MHJ was ‘for the mental care of LE SSERAFIM and ILLIT’ This is basically the same thing - filing a lawsuit as ‘mental care’ for BSH after his failed attempt to stop NJZ’s Complex performance

[upbeat stream]

They even framed this one as protecting newjeans' brand and avoid confusion. Pure evil

[midnight zodiac]

in a very twisted way it is protecting the "newjeans" brand by name only. not protecting what makes the brand what it is

[sly python]

HYBE really enjoys throwing out lawsuits sheesh

[sage venture]

maybe we should just ignore them HYBE is filing these lawsuits as if they’re not even trying to win

[midnight zodiac]

i mean they have the money for it. and then it adds to the things that the girls needs to deal with. so they're like why not

[frozen granite]

So I guess we wont be getting any more snippets then?

[fleet nebula]

I don't see any reason they would stop their promotions leading up to a court decision

[upbeat stream]

Why not?

[hushed whale]

yea everything will proceed as planned until the ruling, just wait for tmr for more info about the ruling

[fleet nebula]

Because they wouldn't have started them in the first place as nothing new has happened, they just reiterated their position

[frozen granite]

I guess I am worried bc complexcon would see this as a liability no? since they might not perform

[jolly junco]

cant wait for tomorrow to come and slammmmmm fraudor with shame

there is no wayyyy the judge gonna grant fraudor injuction

[midnight zodiac]

can injunction even stop complexcon? that's in hong kong isn't it??

[frozen granite]

Someone said yes

[jolly junco]

it was revealed that fraudor filed the injuction to prevent NJZ entertainment activities as well

so yes if the injuction is granted then complexcon is cancelled

[frozen bronze]

they "might not perform" from the start, if complexcon was worried about that they wouldnt have gotten njz in the first place

[frozen granite]

You guys think they were aware of this though? Idk I guess the post makes it seems like the parents were also unaware as well

[frozen bronze]

no of course not, but the liability/possibility has always been there

[sage venture]

that's not exactly true As I said, a civil case has no enforceability But you'll have to pay compensation So in theory, in that case, NJZ might cancel, but it's not an automatic decision

[frozen granite]

So we just have to wait until the results are out right? Which is in a few weeks?

[cinder narwhal]

friendly reminder to everyone

[fleet nebula]

ye zero worries 🙂

we just along for the ride

[copper current]

I don't want it to be cancelled, I have been wiating for 2 months

[sage venture]

it won't

[copper current]

Praying so hard right now

[sage venture]

at this point, I don't know if I can take these lawsuits seriously You guys will be surprised by how many unreasonable civil lawsuits are filed, like the 54M pants (google it for fun) All these lawsuits are nothing more than just for 'venting frustration' and it's heading in the same direction

[short laurel]

Guys. Korean judges rules can't decide what girls can n can't do outside korea. If their label happens to be outside korea even better. Complexcon is not going to be cancelled.

[frozen granite]

I guess I want some sort of hope 😭

[frozen bronze]

hope for what, theres nothing at stake regarding complexcon

[short laurel]

Besides low chance ador will win tomorrow. Like already stared many times, it's illegal to block someone from their livelihood until main suit is decided

[upbeat stream]

They should sign with one of the big3 labels (the real big3 not the kpop one)

[short laurel]

They aren't any better honestly speaking.

[frozen granite]

Wait the decision is tomorrow?

[short laurel]

It could be. But it will be anytime be4 complexcon.

[upbeat stream]

They are, the music industry in the US works differently, labels don't control every aspect of your life

[short laurel]

Better then kpop but shit regardless. Especially top ones.

[upbeat stream]

They are only responsible for albums and promo, everything else is handled by your own management

[short laurel]

They have their own drama. U should look it up 💀

I kinda want to c them joining an australian company. They will welcome it as a chance to promote their country internationally.

[upbeat stream]

I know, contracts are not standardized so all kinds of wild terms can exist and it's very difficult to get out of a contract. But since njz are established artists, and have their own legal team that won't be an issue

[short laurel]

Not have to be top 3 though. Even mid size us label is bigger than hybe probably

[upbeat stream]

Also deals are singed for number of albums, not time (7 years) unlike kpop. That's how people like Lorde can take such long breaks

[short laurel]

Yea ik

[jolly junco]

zero chance ador gonna win the injuction tomorrow

[sage venture]

what's more likely is that what HYBE was doing to sabotage will be revealed tomorrow Maybe the rest of the leaked documents too

[twin cypress]

Tommorow as in our Thursday or our Friday?

[copper current]

tomorrow is Thursday for me

[silk skiff]

friday

[hushed whale]

around 24 hours from now

[craggy skiff]

agree but don't say that.
Bro give me "nah I'll win" flashback

[waxen musk]

Did Ador already respond?

[copper current]

Please don't jinx it

[hushed whale]

yes they did, like 30 mins after njz post lol

[jolly junco]

“We believe we will win this battle against Hybe and Ador.”

Danielle Marsh

[craggy skiff]

what did they said? any link?

[copper current]

so fast, I wish they could be this fast when any negative medias about NJZ were posted

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/talytokki/status/1897466470608654530

taly (@talytokki) on X

I guess if you want Ador to respond quickly, you have to name-drop their cult leader, I mean chairman, Bang Si-Hyuk.

Now, Ador is claiming they don’t want to ban NJZ’s activities; they just simply want to be part of them (probably for profit). Which I find funny, because the

X · Mar 6, 2025, 1:57 AM

[copper current]

lie lie lie

[craggy skiff]

they report bts video real quick too

[waxen musk]

If that's Ador's angle, to say that they should still be working together, then that's quite a weak stance to take. Before this statement I was assuming a different angle.

Because it's not happening. It cannot be forced.

[kindred estuary]

fraudor saying "as many of our team members are waiting for this confirmation"
what team members?

[craggy skiff]

Kim Ju-young 🤡

[waxen musk]

Don't forget there are two court cases tomorrow. One with MHJ, too.

What was it, specifically? I really need some things to be pinned.

[kindred estuary]

the case with bethief iirc

https://x.com/cinetokki/status/1887348956784697399

[waxen musk]

Thanks, I'll actually bookmark that this time.

Things are actually starting now. The wait is basically over.

I really worry about the stress this is causing the girls, but I'm going to remind myself of the girls' confidence.

[short laurel]

Ador response is always super past whenever bsh is mentioned but they always ignore when nj were being attacked left n right by every media.

[kindred estuary]

because bsh is faudor's artist not njz

[craggy skiff]

it funny that they not ever try to hide their bias to bsh

[short laurel]

The self proclaimed "king of kpop"

[tardy smelt]

i’m looking forward to what will be publicised tomorrow

[short laurel]

I m really hope for open n shut case in favour of njz

[craggy skiff]

if ador spent half that effort protecting njz then girls would hardly be able to say that they treated them badly

I was surprised that they didn't even make a move to gain an advantage in court.

[twin cypress]

How long did we have to wait for the results of mhj first injunction?

[sage venture]

usually takes 2 to 3 weeks but probably before the 23rd of March

it took 13 days for MHJ case

[frozen granite]

I hope we wake up with good news tomorrow

[fleet nebula]

it'll take longer than waking up tomorrow 🙂

[midnight zodiac]

i hope we get good news asap

[half knot]

injunction hearings don't necessarily need multiple hearings, but it can take anywhere from one day to 4 months based on the timelines of past cases.

[twin cypress]

Will we hear things tommorow about evidence and stuff or nah

[half knot]

comparing this to MHJ's case is really a moot point since the injunctions were for very different reasons and had very different premises

ador asking the court to essentially stop all of the girls' careers and livelihoods is not the same as MHJ asking the court to stop HYBE from kicking her out as CEO because of their shareholders contract.

both cases had immediate harm involved, which is likely why her first injunction was granted and probably why the girls will win this round too.

[short laurel]

That's why i m hoping for open n shut case

[half knot]

ador HAS to act as though the contract is valid

and the girls HAVE to act as though the contract is terminated now.

but ador asking for all music, advertisement, etc. activities of the girls to be halted is likely going to hurt their injunction petition.

an injunction petition can't ask the court to get the girls to go back to ador, it can only ask the court to halt the girls' activities due to potential immediate harm to the company or to the girls or both.

so ador's statement is full of shit. per usual.

[hoary frost]

goodluck for tmr yall!!

pray everything goes well for the girls

[opal zodiac]

[hoary frost]

And twitter tokkis, put on y'all's seatbelts

I pray for yall
I'll js skip any njz vid I see on tt ..

[jolly junco]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[raven kelp]

will NJZ's new agency have a say in tomorrow's case?

like the contract with complexcon was made by NJZ under 'x' agency and not NewJeans under ADOR?

[heady gate]

what is NJZ's new agency?

[stiff prairie]

They can say smth if they want but for what reason. Technically ador has no say in it either, their statement is the injunction itself. Anything more I see as trying to do media play or influence judge's decision.

[cinder narwhal]

who knows

[cinder narwhal]

Definitely not ador, but no one knows the specifics

[heady gate]

NJ injunction tomorrow? I didn't know

[stiff prairie]

yes

[cerulean lake]

bruh i hoping the courts aren’t corrupt or smth

already having a bad day from my midterm score 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[ashen charm]

If njz wins they'll just keep getting hit with lawsuits it's never ending unfortunately 😔

[frozen granite]

I feel like it will stop when that one group comes back .. iykyk

I think BSH will be more occupied then which would be good so he can leave NJZ alone

[stiff prairie]

it won't. they can multitask

[stable escarp]

BSH atp will have a whole special op group to stop NJZ 😭

[frozen granite]

Why do I feel like he lowkey has a crush on MHJ & that’s the reason why he’s super invested in this

[stiff prairie]

dunno if it went under your radar or not, hybe took very good measures against bts' (justified) hate posts. one where a billie eilish stan pointed out who's stream count getting cut by ~42M and other post that showed a few of their members being racists on the basis of copyright claim. all the while dropping articles and statements like crazy for njz

ts made me mad cause they can't copyright leaked predebut video of njz but can copyright spotify screenshots of stream counts of their precious group

[frozen granite]

Didn’t know that tbh I only listen to NJZ & BP … but more NJZ since I stan them more

I don’t really know much of what happens outside those two groups

[stiff prairie]

the less you know the better tbh

[short laurel]

they do take very strict action when it comes to BTS brand. but not when it comes to BTS members. for individual members case they've been shaky. remember the youtuber who got jailed? memebrs themselves filed lawsuit yet bighit gets to claim compensation even thought they themselves did nothing against the youtuber.

[lucid yarrow]

"LE SSERAFIM and ILLIT’s Agencies Seek 280 Million Won Damages from 7 YouTube Channels" hmm what wonderful timing as always they sure have to bring up NJZ/MHJ in post....

[short laurel]

media purposely post the name of the youtuber with tokki in name but didn't mention other names in headline.

[stiff prairie]

*x https://x.com/bborbnz/status/1897475590288269443

[harsh dove]

@bborbnz <t:1741228408:d>

[pulsar wasp]

something significant happening in court today?

[ashen charm]

It's the first injunction hearing I think

[upbeat stream]

Tomorrow, not today

Since mhj's injunctions were reported on right away, we can expect the same

[frozen granite]

I’m going to be praying

[tiny peak]

how we feeling bunnies?

[half knot]

open and shut case unless there's a twist we aren't aware of, we're dealing with incomplete information after all

[pulsar wasp]

~t https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1897492576174821545?s=46&t=fNOSZJh6PZHLeSxBuZ7DWA

this answered question

[narrow seal]

250306 Kpop Charts (@​kchartsmaster) Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/kchartsmaster/status/1897492576174821545
ADOR responds to NJZ’ statement saying that they’re not trying to restrict their activities:

— “"ADOR chose to expand the scope of its injunction request, initially filed to maintain its status as the agency of NewJeans and to prohibit the signing of independent advertising

[frozen granite]

Worried

[cerulean lake]

same ngl

i want them to win of course but i pray they have goated lawyers and judges. i’m just scared what ador and hybe can do considering they have immense ties to powerful ppl

[shy schooner]

only hoping for the best at this point

[cerulean lake]

i just don’t want to experience a whole year of this drama just for it to end up at a stop point

[craggy skiff]

wow. I should off X until we have some positive news.
haters look more active today 💤

[hollow sorrel]

Just remembered Mhj’s injunction against Soumu and Belift are also tomorrow. Are we getting the verdict this time?

[frozen granite]

Omg this is never ending

[upbeat stream]

It's defamation lawsuit with Belift, not an injunction

[hollow sorrel]

Yeah that one

[mild mist]

Maybe we'll get more tales of how inept hybe's management is

[short laurel]

and only with bethief. 2nd hearing for one with somu is on 14th.

[short laurel]

wow people here are so messed up. but kinda funny how some users are saying "do nj think they are above law" when it's hybe who acting like they are above law.

[storm warren]

https://x.com/newjeansstrm/status/1897631383721501044

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

📄 글로벌 탄원서 서명 안내

Please select your language and country through the Google Form link below and participate in signing the petition. All collected signatures will be compiled and submitted to the court.

Along with three versions of the petition, various supporting

X · Mar 6, 2025, 12:52 PM

https://forms.gle/YKoF77dnHko4Xh5F8

maybe mod can issue server wide announcement to inform bunnies to sign this petition which will be submitted to court

[pulsar wasp]

anybody know what time everything goes down today?

[stiff prairie]

@modern fog

[stiff prairie]

usually court things start ~11 am. i think we'll get statements from both legal reps near 2 pm kst. also two cases tmr. gon be a fun day

[mental lynx]

we got this guys, tomorrow will be a good day, ador wont stay a chance

[pulsar wasp]

thx for the 411!

they got this! Trust in the process! NJZ 화이팅!

[kindred estuary]

10:30am KST

https://x.com/NJZBUBBLEGUM/status/1897667733464178822

[pulsar wasp]

I appreciate these bullet points

~t https://x.com/poppykpoppie/status/1897569419255267387?s=46&t=fNOSZJh6PZHLeSxBuZ7DWA

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

THINGS YOU SHOULD NEED TO KNOW ABOUT TOMORROW'S INJUNCTION HEARING

1. contract validity: ador needs sufficient evidence to show the court that they have always provided the means to support the members.

2. certified letter: ador also has to counter the claims stated on the

X · Mar 6, 2025, 8:46 AM

[copper jetty]

i can't sleep guys... i think i'm too nervous for the girls for tomorrow... 😨

[short laurel]

legally court can't stop girls from making a living. so dw and go to bed.

[copper jetty]

Thanks namiko... my brain is just on a pessimistic mode right now. My coping mechanism is kicking in and it's thinking and expecting the worst case scenarios, in case if it does happen, i won't be disappointed and crying.

[short laurel]

seriously. worse case scenario is court forcing girls to give cut out of their earning to ador, but it can't stop girls from performing or doing any activities unless girls choose to do so themselves.
So we will be getting girls performing and release new music regardless of what comes out tomorrow.

[half knot]

while this is somewhat true, a lot of this stuff will be deferred to the actual validity of contract long-term suit

the injunction will focus on whether there is immediate harm if the petition is granted or not

and weigh the probabilities of that. all those points may be factors in the judge's decision

[hoary frost]

I really hope the best happens, those girls don't owe a dime to ador

[opaque torrent]

trying to ban people from earning a living is hilarious. if they have any rights to newjeans' revenue, that should be settled in the main lawsuit

[half knot]

they better have not held back any payments due to the girls for 2024 activities. I think the last time we heard about the girls receiving financial settlements was early 2024 for 2023 activities.

[short laurel]

we talked about it. better for us if they did held back payment. more trouble for ador and hybe that way

[wind monolith]

Alr now that im done with my midterm, i can worry about the injunction

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-toad-panic-toad-rage-panic-rage-gif-5308125717647168980

[half knot]

if you fail your midterm, you can blame ador

[waxen musk]

In terms of what will be discussed and evidence to be presented during this injunction, it's hard to imagine it won't differ that much from the main lawsuit.

It's hard to imagine a judge then decide on anything as drastic as forcing them to stop all activities before a full investigation during the main lawsuit. (People say years.)

Namiko says above that if Ador were to win, that NJZ would have to give a cut to Ador. I also don't see how a judge can determine the specifics on this when it would potentially be temporary until the main lawsuit is completed.

Of course anything can happen but I'm just a little confused about how any real effect can be placed on NJZ just from the injunction alone.

Please let me know if my thought process is flawed. I'm mostly confused the more I think about the injunction alone.

[half knot]

if ador wins the petition for injunction, there's no cut happening, it halts newjeans activities legally in korea at least

ador didn't leave any wiggle room in their modified filing, which makes their statement about it completely disingenuous

[waxen musk]

I think we're just saying even if their activities are actually fully halted (lets ignore the fact about basic rights to allow this regardless), that even if NJZ were to "illegally" perform in Korea that a "fine" would be placed upon them, right? This fine basically being the cut that Namiko mentions above. I have no idea, but does this make sense?

[copper current]

pray pray pray 🙏

[waxen musk]

This point has been brought up before--even before the additions to the injunction--that the injunction, whatever result is determined will basically also determine the main lawsuit's result. Like imagine they let Ador win this, then NJZ performs anyway and has to pay Ador, then later if a loss for Ador is determined during the full lawsuit, will then Ador have to give back the money NJZ gave them during this limbo period between the injunction ruling and the main lawsuit ruling over the course of a year or two? Sorry I'm not able to express my confusion without explaining in this much detail.

[half knot]

yes you have it correctly

if njz loses injunction but wins the main lawsuit, then there will be secondary settlement discussions or lawsuits, same goes for the other way around.

[short laurel]

i just know legally they can't be stopped from earning a living. so even if court sides with ador, court will have to compromise in some form to allow girls to do their job.

[half knot]

we don't know how many points are on their petition for injunction, so a partial injunction win is possible and has occurred before

[short laurel]

yea

[waxen musk]

I keep seeing this. But stopping people from being able to work in one field doesn't prevent them from working at McDonalds. (Sorry had to joke.)

[wind monolith]

Or can it be like mhj second injunction where it couldnt be decided cuz it relied on the main battle?

[waxen musk]

Yeah that too. Who knows.

It's actually quite unpredictable apart from the fact we know the girls aren't in the wrong technically (who knows legally) and they will do what they want regardless of the result.

[short laurel]

imagine u trained for years for a field u are working on and suddenly someone decided u can't work in it for 1-2 years and have to move to other profession u don't know anything about and have lower wage since u are forced to start over. it's basically ruining their life.
Employee B tried to make similar argument with MHJ over her wage. difference is employee B willing switched her field.

[wind monolith]

Lots if ifs and buts
Lets stay calm before the storm

[waxen musk]

Yep

[short laurel]

also korean law doesn't apply oversees. they can keep performing in HK even if they are blocked in SK. they just can't return to SK without paying fines.

[stiff prairie]

you guys are panicking a lot. which is making me panic a lot. let's see what happens tmr

[waxen musk]

Twitter was fun for the past few days with the insane speculations on the new music.
Then it was good for most of this day for hearing what people have to say about the injunction.
But now I'm just seeing people bringing up the Haerin Attention moment again and just pissing me off again. People can't just focus on important things can they and have to get involved with this fight over who can and can't sing.

[wind monolith]

Twitter tokkis need to calm down we should ignore the losers who bring it up but rather we drag the other groups😭 and them its war

[stiff prairie]

twitter bunnies aren't as good as i thought smh. i saw ppl bringing choi yumi down. ts happens when there's no fight w other fandoms for one day. which makes me think we'll continue w inside fanwars even if njz turn up ok w legal stuff. ppl just want to find negatives

[waxen musk]

I've never found that part of Attention to sound the same live as it does in the recording. Prob my least fav part of their live performances. Shame that LITERALLY ONE moment of unappealing sounding vocals gets this much focus. But it is LITERALLY ONLY ONE moment.

[short laurel]

all we need to know is. regardless of what happens, we'll be getting complexcon performance.

[blazing sky]

chaos aside, what time is the injunction in kst? theres so much info in pinned

[waxen musk]

Oh yeah that too. I think it's fine to dislike aspects of what NJZ has done in the past, but it's so hard to when the girls express themselves positively about the things people dislike.

[short laurel]

usual kpop social media. they are people who exists for drama. they are not actual stans.

[waxen musk]

10:30AM KST

[blazing sky]

ty

[sage venture]

honestly, I’m not even worried about the outcome anymore, especially after njz_pr revealed that HYBE/ADOR expanded the scope of the injunction to include singing, composing, and even playing instruments At this point, this lawsuit is turning into something almost comical - more about venting frustration than actually winning a case

what I find more interesting is how this argument will even be presented in court, because there’s no legal precedent for restricting such basic rights There have been past cases where entertainment activities or broadcast appearances were temporarily blocked through an injunction, but even in those cases, there was no actual way to enforce the ban of entertainment activities That means not only is there no legal precedent for restricting basic creative activities like singing or composing, but also no precedent for successfully enforcing such a ruling

[waxen musk]

I’m not quite sure why this change to the injunction has caused people to behave so much more worried than previously. Or maybe they were going to when the time came anyway. Everything that’s happening was basically expected eventually anyway. We’ll get through it just like we have many times before. They’ll figure out what to do with the restrictions placed on them just as they have already, they’re smart. Let’s hope it goes well. Gonna try to leave for a bit.

[short laurel]

they are worried now cuz they were going to be anyways since it is tomorrow.

[copper current]

This is ridiculous, it is like they want to control NJZ's lives. You cannot sing, you cannot write songs, you cannot perform. This is basic human needs, what kind of monster is this? Jealousy and envy blind their eyes, do they want NJZ to die and push them to despair? Hybe are monsters, Bang PD is a monster, i hope in his next life he will pay for all the evil things he did

This case opens my eyes to corruption. I think about moving to Korea or investing in something, but this case shows me investment is not possible because of corruption. You will be scammed because their stocks are manipulated. Corruption and injustice are happening in front of everyone and no government or justice were applied.

I will not invest in such country where my money will be stolen by thieves and evil people, I refuse to be bullied and give money to thugs like Hybe

[short laurel]

Kpop is the last thing to invest in anyways. Very unstable.

[steep torrent]

6 hours

[half knot]

don't expect any reporting on it until 3-6pm KST

[runic granite]

They'll be fine guys, worst case scenario is Ador wins the injunction and the girls will have to pay % of earning they make from NJZ. They will still get to perform regardless so there's no point of worrying

[hoary frost]

whats happening to NJZ tmr

[upbeat stream]

It'll be contempt of court though, which probably means additional penalties. I think if they lose, they are better off moving to a different country and giving up on korea until at least the main lawsuit ruling

[runic granite]

I don't think they can even demand penalties until the main lawsuit for their contract is decided

[frozen granite]

Please whatever entity is up there please let NJZ win. I’m praying.

[hoary frost]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[cerulean lake]

yall im quite scared ngl

[tawdry vessel]

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/njzbubblegum/status/1897773881252889030

. (@NJZBUBBLEGUM) on X

10:30 KST:
Seoul Central District Court
ADOR(p.) v. Kim Minji, Hanni Pham, Mo Ji-hye, Kang Hae-rin, Lee Hye-in(d.)

Afternoon:
Seoul Western District Court
BELIFT LAB(p.) v. Min Hee-jin(d.)

X · Mar 6, 2025, 10:18 PM

[upbeat stream]

The min hee-jin one is not very important, it's just the 2nd hearing in what is expected to be a long trial. And if I remember correctly, it'll focus on if illit copied njz's choreography or not

While the injunction will have its only hearing today

[sly python]

today is the MHJ case?

#FreeMHJ

[olive tulip]

1 hour left

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1897799575907512395

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

안녕하세요, 팀 버니즈입니다.

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X · Mar 7, 2025, 12:00 AM

[jolly junco]

sending all my energy for NJZ today

[tawdry vessel]

[frozen granite]

What’s this

[olive tulip]

If this is the global Petition, I signed it already

[tawdry vessel]

samee

[kindred estuary]

chat gpt translation

[tawdry vessel]

99% of the time i always ignore petition but not this time

[olive tulip]

Same

[frozen granite]

I signed it 3 times

[vale dagger]

-prayjeans