NJZ Updates and Discussion

[half knot]

anyway corruption isn't a contest, also this isn't a global/international politics and beaurocracy channel anyway, only thing that concerns NJ girls is South Korean legal system, police system, and business sector and all the associated corruption there.

[stiff prairie]

me when the judge comes to court while listening to ditto on their headphone

[jolly junco]

Sorry i didnt mean to insult anyone, i’m just saying from my experiences

[short laurel]

while it's less compared to others, it's still there in china.

[tawdry vessel]

hell naw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1225437552161329224.gif?size=48

[fierce cloak]

china is corrupted as hell, the one got death sentence never get actualy death punishment, and they often outed by their political opponent

[tawdry vessel]

ccp is literally a hundred times worse than hybe

[cerulean lake]

well we can see it in kdramas too and ik kdramas don’t always mean real life but those don’t show up for no reason..

corruption is very extreme in sk especially with how involved chaebols are in the political scene

[half knot]

ironically k-dramas are an idealized form of south korean society, even the worst cases of corruption in their fiction is still a whitewashed version of how bad it really is

[short laurel]

I still struggle with how some messed up kdrama's are just dumbed down on real events. Cuz what's shown is already tooooooo far for human.

[stiff prairie]

i don't watch that many kdramas to know how deep corruption go in judicial systems. corruption is a big part in any capitalistic society that i know. but in high profile cases judges are always monitored, who they meet, how their bank account changes etc. if we don't trust justice system we really have no hope period. for now we have had one injunction win, one injunction loss, well not loss but didn't win. we just gotta have faith in SK justice system and hope for the best that's all. otherwise everything is a hopeless scenario

[short laurel]

Dw, at most judge will delay the case. When there's overwhelming proof, they won't be able to side with hybe, at most reduce the fines.

Depending on proof shown they can't just make the winner a loser. The public is watching this case too.

[upbeat stream]

I trust the justice system. If Korea can convict multiple samsung chairmen, then it can be fair to newjeans too

It just depends on the actual evidence and the judge itself

[fierce cloak]

i wouldnt say fair but there is a chance for sure
even the president also got caught recently, that's better than u.s at least loll

[copper jetty]

Guys are there any important dates for newjeans in February? I feel like most of the cases are in March right?

[stiff prairie]

everybody's assuming ador's injuction to stop newjeans from working w brands will take place in february before mhj stuff

[copper jetty]

I'm scared though. That injunction might go one of 3 ways. Either it gets approved and that could affect hybe's contract injunction, the court may dismiss is like mhj second injunction since it would need the resolution for the contract termination first or newjeans might win it. So 2 out of 3 is good but 1 is bad. And I'm getting angsty on waiting.

[stiff prairie]

it do be like that. some days i'm hopefull some days i'm anxious. what i came to terms with is worrying doesn't help. whether the outcome is good or bad we just gotta move on

[copper jetty]

true. I think I'm just getting impatient and kind of discouraged on how things may turn out. Like, even the investigation on MHJ's case... It's getting much closer to April and it's going to be a year and all of this is still hanging.

[upbeat stream]

Well, at least the injunction case won't keep us waiting for too long. I expect the first hearing in Feb and then the ruling in March or April

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1884304651799126434?t=wvxcG6xKgzZbdh5D2SfHXw&s=33

Is this new? Did KMCA release another statement? Also what was the issue with that previous korean lawyer koh sang rok?

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

KMCA is once again trying to enforce a narrative that newjeans are ignorant and incapable of differentiating an agreement vs a contract. more so, they are claiming that the girls impose a negative influence on young people who have no business acumen. 😒

X · Jan 28, 2025, 6:16 PM

I haven't been tuning to the updates this past few days and I thought I might've missed things. And also, I feel like most of what was released before, the media's just regurgitating it so I'm confused as to what's new and what's not.

[stiff prairie]

this is new yeah. but nobody gives a f what they say anymore so...

it's not a kmca statement, tv daily or another hybe mouthpeice interview

[copper jetty]

I couldn't find any other link from the kmca statement aside from allkpop which is weird. Usually, Hybe would be the one leaking this to all the other media outlets... it's surprising I could only find this.
https://www.allkpop.com/article/2025/01/kmca-official-expresses-concerns-that-newjeans-lack-sufficient-understanding-of-the-k-pop-business-and-have-a-negative-impact-on-the-youth

Aside from what poppy posted. I read the article and this is what stood out to me.

[stiff prairie]

i haven't seen any articles but i saw multiple post refering to kmca official saying the girls are being negative influence on younger generation, which is a new topic. pretty sure sb from kmca did an interview w tv daily or one of those news agencies

https://news.nate.com/view/20250127n06427

[copper jetty]

Tv daily is one of those hybe media lackeys if i remember. Also the kmca statement is kinda funny cause weren't companies unilaterally terminating contracts before already? Like I see some or most trainees, they don't have assurances that they'll debut until they actually do, and even those who debuted aren't guaranteed like that one member from that bg got kicked out or even garam. Though I don't know if those went to court.

[copper jetty]

Yeah same. I couldn't find anything but allkpop which is weird. Cause before news articles would've usually dropped simultaneously.

[stiff prairie]

they'll keep talking shit about impact etc to fearmonger but whatever ig. on one hand newjeans don't hold burden to uphold the trust of kpop agencies investing in idols and trainees, they need to look after their own selves and on the other hand if speaking up against evil companies' mistreatments is to be considered as negative impact on young generation then i'd rather take the negative one than the positive one

[stiff prairie]

this one didn't garner that much attraction. people aren't falling anymore for same old talks from hybe shills which is good cause they'll keep doing it until or maybe even after we get results of all the cases

[copper jetty]

Same. Newjeans doesn't hold any burden on the kpop industry. They should think about themselves in these instances.
I think there's pros and cons with this - if newjeans wins, that means there's another way for idols to go about these cases. But I'm thinking the companies might also have a more stringent contract after this though.

[copper jetty]

Also does anybody here know what the difference is between a performance bond agreement and an investment contract? I'm reading about it but i don't understand it 😕.

[cerulean lake]

funny how they think ppl going against evil companies is smth that will deter investments but don’t see why artists would be wanting to terminate in the first place

if artists were satisfied with their companies, they wouldn’t be terminating. so who’s really at fault here? stupid ass excuse

[copper jetty]

That's why I don't understand how people are siding with hybe regarding this... billion won company vs small artists?? Smh.

[short laurel]

If anything, what nj did will have positive impact on younger artists.
Last year a bg survival show, the environment was so toxic, many of the talented boys willingly withdrew near the end. Idk if they got self-respect cuz of nj or not but I like to think it's cuz of nj.

[red thorn]

The arrogance that NJ claims are not worth responding to.

[short laurel]

Wdym?

[red thorn]

The statement from a kmca official

[short laurel]

Ooh.

I m avoiding opening those links so idk their full statement.

[cerulean lake]

they’re all hybe’s lapdogs

they’ll rather suck up and kiss ass to a company that brings in money and unfortunately, like it or not, but hybe groups do bring in money

[cerulean lake]

just like njwns don’t have to respond to hybe’s claims. if they wanna play like that then let that be 🤷🏻‍♀️

[red thorn]

Well, that kmca official belittle artist's claims, as if directly involved in the dispute, it blatantly shows who they're.

[cerulean lake]

this official’s statement was shared through tv daily right? weren’t they exposed for sharing the same office as the other news sites bashing nwjns?

[red thorn]

The recent one not official statement from kmca, tvdaily asked an official from kmca

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/fifihunnie/status/1867548032532984261

[harsh dove]

@fifihunnie <t:1734093122:d>

KMCA Chairman Kim Chang-hwan was MediaLine Chairman & abetted the abuse of group The Eastlight by his producer. In 2019, found guilty of child abuse but only received an 8mth suspended sentence & 2yrs probation.
A convicted child abuser in charge of Kpop's "healthy development"?

[stiff prairie]

this is the state of kmca btw. even besides the fact that they have hybe execs on their BOD, just this makes their opinion is invalidated instantly

[cerulean lake]

all those nasty higher ups are like that

and sk’s sentencings are so ass no wonder their legal system always gets criticized

[sweet pebble]

the industry needs change

[steep torrent]

*x https://x.com/fr2kmj_gomgomz/status/1884586989271556589?s=46

[harsh dove]

@fr2kmj_gomgomz <t:1738155526:d>

[steep torrent]

I wonder why they waited? comeback soon?

[sly python]

who are these people? (sorry not that well versed)

[red thorn]

Performance Directors/Choreographers
They're back dancers too sometimes

[glossy siren]

they are part of the original ador team

[sly python]

yipee

[tardy smelt]

hope y’all have enjoyed the relative peace of the past month because it sounds like we’ll be anticipating a lot of noise in Feb with the opening of the girls’ pr ig account

[waxen musk]

I have some weird vague memory of reading something so similar to this recent message but I can't remember.

I won't lie, I thought throughout the past month the girls might have been up to secret stuff in the background to prepare for everything but to be honest after the small hints of what they've been showing and saying on their very few lives, I think they've been completely resting.
However I don't think we can assume the same for MHJ, so I'm just impatient to see things finally start to happen, hopefully now that the new year holidays have ended and a new month begins...

[tardy smelt]

a good month off after a year of non stop chaos was probably the idea

[warm shard]

I agree and it's not like they've completely disappeared since they've been posting almost every day

[waxen musk]

Yeah I'm glad. Just didn't know for sure until more recently where I feel like we can assume they've been properly resting with a little bit more certainty.

[upbeat stream]

Did you guys notice something? Hybe has lapdogs in the print and digital media like 10asia and tvdaily (who reads articles anyway), but they have failed to defame nwjns on korean tv. In fact one of the big networks, channel A has been on our side

Even TV Chosun avoids talking about nwjns

[waxen musk]

Well we've all seen the audience stats for those places and for people who leave those types of comments we don't want to see.

[tardy smelt]

man i got excited thinking there was gonna be an announcement seeing the post with the date on that pr account, then i translated the post and i got baited

[upbeat stream]

The average person under 40 isn't reading news articles lol, so hybe's mediaplay has fallen on deaf ears

[waxen musk]

Because I don't live in Korea or speak the language, it's been pretty tough to figure out reality when you have to trust people to interpret what's going on to an English audience. That's why it's so important to just wait for results rather than worry about all these empty words coming from media play that just ends up being repeats of stuff over the course of months and months.

And the fact there's really not been any visible results of anything yet is what has made these months so tough to get through.

But soon...

[upbeat stream]

I would say nwjns have created more enemies for themselves by supporting the impeachment rallies than any of this drama. It's not the kind of people that they would want to cater to anyway, but still, I underestimated the craziness of Yoon supporters. They have been on IU and nwjns' ass ever since. There's a reason why no other group officially supported the rallies

But hey, that's a conscious political choice they made, and even nwjns dc gallery supported it, so it'll be all right in the long run

[fierce cloak]

dont worry too much, they are mostly loud small amount of incel korean
Sometimes, getting hate is somewhat a 'good' thing, as in drama drive attention and engagement, which makes NJ even more relevant
Most sane people wouldn't care or being swayed by hate and misinformation, because they see the real NJ behavior and action
We just need to wait for the courts rulings, which hopefully in NJ favor as they are confident in themselves

one thing about NJ that makes them stood out is they move very strategically, and they have always been supported with legal team and the brands so they know exactly what they are doing and will be alright

[hoary frost]

Js thinking abt how I cldve been at a Newjeans concert rn if Hybe was better

[orchid field]

I COULD BE TOURING SEA WITH THEM FUCKKK

[hoary frost]

Cldve been at Kl or smth w njs n here we r

Stadium w newjeans but no

[orchid field]

sg my th id ph

[hoary frost]

Sgjeans agn but no

[cerulean lake]

we could’ve had everything late last year 😭 and then maybe world tour this year

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[short laurel]

https://x.com/newjeans_loop/status/1884988235216224728?t=UpJzLkXGZp7vNhSN_v_eAA&s=19

Proper translation

NewJeans Loops 🐇 (@newjeans_loop) on X

Hello.
We are the parents of Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein. This account has been temporarily created out of necessity to represent our position in the dispute with HYBE.
Since there was no official channel to communicate our stance, we have made multiple efforts to

X · Jan 30, 2025, 3:33 PM

[copper jetty]

Reading the translation of NJ parent's statement, I was kind of relieved but also dreaded this part of this situation. It's scary as hell for me as a fan, how much more if it's them, but this period is kind of needed for closure of this issue.

It's going to get nasty for sure in the next few months if they're releasing this.

[cerulean lake]

yes it’s sad how the parents have to get publicly involved now and i hope the legal team is advising them throughout

[naive hound]

I would love if parents release a song or mv together to support nj. That would be so cute

[hoary frost]

[sly python]

i understand the parents feeling the need to defend their children publicly , however, considering the legal side of the situation wouldnt it be wise to put out statements via a legal team?

major brands & people still support newjeans as shown thru social media posts, so why worry about responding to these low hanging fruit reports/reporters

[upbeat stream]

I can't be sure but the statements that they have and will put out would almost certainly go through thier legal team first

Though you're right that hybe's mediaplay hasn't affected them at all, so responding to them isn't all that important

[sly python]

guess we'll wait & see, hopefully nothing devlopes from this

[cerulean lake]

hm yeah i’m hoping the parents are actively in contact with the lawyers bc i don’t want this to cause things to backfire even though ik they’re just doing it to protect their reputation and fight against media play

i think they’re just getting fed up with all the rampant and nasty stuff the media portrays and with the injunction coming up, it’s gonna get even worse

[stable escarp]

10 parents, 15 brains, i can only believe theyll take the appropriate approach. Dani's and Hyeins parents would be well versed in the industry so im sure all the precautions are taken and its already been announced the girls are with sejong law firm so I would assume the parents run it by sejong.

Ngl wouldve hoped they channeled their statements thru a legal team but hey atleast we got somethin 🤷‍♂️

[upbeat stream]

Why are you guys saying it isn't channeled through their legal team?

[hushed whale]

ye it will go through their legal team, they just want a separate account
post everything on jeanzforfree will be too much ig

[hoary frost]

I thought I blocked this dog 😭😭😭😭

[red thorn]

They parents fed up, very reasonable move and probably best move with its pros an cons, it's more direct, people now have legit source, parents don't have to go through media interviews, and likely they some professional for their statement.
Also I believe legal team gonna have their own separate statement on legal matters.

[craggy skiff]

I think their account only use to raise their relate opinion/news, like when hybe use hyein's uncle with davolink to media play
The legal information will be update via legal team as normally

[upbeat stream]

I don't even understand this one 😭

[hoary frost]

Its a cake where u put pictures of people stuff or characters tht dont look as attractive but are attractive to u 😭

[upbeat stream]

No I get that but like why is he posting it? And I don't even remember when Minji made that cake, this guy is a bigger fan than me 😭

[hoary frost]

He js dreamt of it or sum 😭😭😭

[tardy smelt]

she mentioned it in the last ig live or the one before but she was like responding to a comment or something

[copper jetty]

Is it only me cause I think it's much better for the court if they issue a gag order from both hybe and the jeaniez side and let them battle it out on the court. If dispatch leaks anything, they can file for defamation (criminal) in there and find the source legally.

I'm scared cause even though the statements on the parent's account will be checked by the legal team, Hybe can still sue them for defamation like with MHJ.

[hoary frost]

Oh

[cerulean lake]

obsessed bc he’s stalking their lives and comments. he’s literally a fan at this point

[cerulean lake]

yeah hopefully they have thing release through legal documents bc i don’t want others to call them unprofessional 🙄 or have smth backfire against them

[stable escarp]

People will call them unprofessional whether they do a press release or a statement. Its crazy

[short laurel]

i m finally seeing more and more tokkies calling out army for why nj is their business on haters saying "i m tired of this".

[cerulean lake]

only reason why this drama has been going on this long is bc of hybe!! so those ppl complaining should complain abt that company

[stable escarp]

My question is, what are they so tired of?

[short laurel]

exactly why they are being called out lol

[tawdry vessel]

not a fan, just an obsessed miserable hater

[fierce cloak]

that's his job, got paid to spread hate

[short laurel]

pay must be good for him to be more informed on NJ than bunnies.

[stiff prairie]

been off the grid for a short while
did anything noteworthy happen meanwhile?

[tardy smelt]

parents opened an ig account for making direct statements on behalf of mhdhh, @/jeanz_pr

[stiff prairie]

yeah just seeing it. jeanzforfree follows 1 account now

i bet reddit had very concerning opinions on this one now that mediaplay won't go unchecked anymore

but i'm a bit sceptical cause now everyone will expect them to respond to every single thing. they'll have to pick and choose on which topic they want to talk about and which topic would be best left unattended

like the hanni visa issue they'll have to respond when tv daily or ten asia starts talking shit about that

[tardy smelt]

yeah idk ay. based on the first post, they’re anticipating something dropping in the future and have a rebuttal prepared and they don’t trust media to convey the facts transparently.

[stiff prairie]

the parents previously used ilgan sports for their direct communication multiple times. i wonder why they felt the need to do it differently now

[tardy smelt]

not a fast enough process ig

[stiff prairie]

could be

[tawdry vessel]

injuction result in feb i think right

about the advertisement

[stiff prairie]

i'm just thinking about let say when negative articles come out like dispatch's hanni meeting mhj/lawyers, we don't expect a response for that cause that's normal activity from our pov. but now everyone will expect some sort of statement on that. and those rebuttal/statements will be scrutinized a lot or if they don't respond antis will weaponize their silence

[stiff prairie]

they didn't say about any specific date yet but everyone's anticipating Feb

[tardy smelt]

eh no confirmation yet but not unlikely

[copper jetty]

well according to bunnies in newjeans reddit those kpop subs are horrible rn

[stiff prairie]

they been trash talking the parents alongside mhj since the begining when it was revealed they had a meeting with hybe regarding one and a half year hiatus and other stuff. i'd be surprised in fact if they weren't horrible rn.

esp i saw them calling hyein's parents greedy etc for debuting her at such a young age but it's okay when jk debuts at 15

[copper jetty]

yeah. Considering Hyein is the youngest i can't really stomach what they're saying about her family.

Also, they're angry at newjeans parents saying the adults failed them and yet when parents are doing what they're supposed to like what NJ parents are

they're still angry. There's really no pleasing people. Also, I just don't get how they hate the girls because of hybe.

[cerulean lake]

it’s bc their fav group is in there and the whole company’s reputation took a hit during this so they feel hurt on behalf of the company..hence company stans

[short laurel]

In kpop there's so many cases where parents fail their kids. The fact nj parents got directly involved instead shows how much they care for their kids.
It unfortunately seems to be rare for parents to help their kids in kpop industry.

[copper jetty]

I actually didn't know this not until i heard that newjeans seeing their parents while having vacations were mentioned before. I couldn't believe that idols don't see their families and have vacations at least once a year?

[upbeat stream]

If I remember right, Vivi of Loona said that she hadn't been home for 5 years

Basically from debut till contract suspension

[lucid yarrow]

they want to keep it the boomer way with slaves and corruption

[copper jetty]

how is that even normal? i don't even know why this is actually the norm in kpop

[split bramble]

it is a vicious cycle of mental and physical abuse

from day 1 og ador treated nj as artists not idols, thats why they make moves the abusive kpop industry are not used to

[short laurel]

As human not machines*

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/aarrttee01/status/1885524638912176594?t=hww2LHalTEiYtr2Ah_HJzg&s=33

.🩵 (@aarrttee01) on X

🚨i-tokkis, Remember these two names as well: Lee Do-kyung, the vice president of ADOR, and Lee Jung-min, the head of brand partnerships at HYBE.
🚨On August 27, 2024, Bang Si-hyuk's HYBE unilaterally dismissed MHJ from ADOR. Lee Do-kyung, whom HYBE had appointed as the vice

X · Feb 1, 2025, 3:04 AM

Seems like k tokkis are digging about that stolen LV endorsement. It's the same girl who's posting mhj's achievements like it's hers on LinkedIn

[stiff prairie]

i thought this was old news.

[short laurel]

This post is only reminder. In case Tokkies forgot about these lady

[waxen musk]

Pre-warning: https://x.com/catzkang/status/1885694408621949247?s=46

반희수🫧 (@catzkang) on X

Someone shared and try to warn people on kforum.

“HYBE contacted the parents of some members & persuaded them to return by promising the members a solo album. Sooner, If there's an article released about a dispute between the members... don't believe it at all.”

X · Feb 1, 2025, 2:19 PM

[stable escarp]

No shot they thought a "solo album" would sway them. That is straight up comedy

[red thorn]

Should've persuade by promising re-ceo of old ceo

[orchid field]

They had more than two weeks to do that

[tardy smelt]

nasty ass tactics

[copper jetty]

nah bro... They really think they could do a solo album when it's gonna take them years to find a grammy award winning producer? 💀

and no choice that one of the parents would do that. They locked in with each other since before the debut when hybe didn't even want to face them.

[short laurel]

https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1885695237571727569?t=VxvGY84a7GFecJMoTirTQQ&s=19
Flop era btw

Kpop Charts (@kchartsmaster) on X

Most streamed girlgroup songs on Spotify South Korea chart:

1. #NewJeans, ‘Hype Boy’
2. #NewJeans, ‘Ditto’
3. #NewJeans, ‘OMG’
4. #NewJeans, ‘Attention’
5. #NewJeans, ‘Super Shy’
6. #ILLIT, ‘Magnetic’
7. #NewJeans, ‘ETA’
8. #NewJeans, ‘New Jeans’
9. #IVE, ‘LOVE DIVE’
10. #aespa,

X · Feb 1, 2025, 2:22 PM

[copper jetty]

7/10 that's not flop lmao.... they dominating

[short laurel]

It would be shameful for a parent if they agreed to hybe after all the attacks hybe did to girls through media

[copper jetty]

people who say that nj are flopping are weird

[short laurel]

I m not calling them flop. Intl stans did.

[copper jetty]

I'm not saying you @short laurel. I know what they say online on X and even on reddit

I'm just saying in general people who say that are weird

[short laurel]

If nj did this much in their "flop era" then haters must be scared what nj can achieve in their peak era. Maybe that's why haters screaming so much, their fav at risk from dropping from top.
This is what haters must be thinking.

[flint stone]

*x https://x.com/mymomoty/status/1885715204845236337?t=Kzt34ByNkPR8WrPNO1kNEQ&s=19

[harsh dove]

@mymomoty <t:1738424514:d>

[upbeat stream]

The dispatch report could show one or more of the parents either strongly considering or straight up agreeing with the deal offered by hybe. We should be mentally prepared

But their daughter(s) refused it, just some speculation, which I realize I shouldn't do before the leak is even out

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1885709533462585826

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1738423162:d>

Dispatch is currently writing a malicious article about NewJeans

NewJeans’ side is already aware and preparing a response, but not sure if they’ll be able to stop it. The article is about to be released, and its main focus is stirring conflict between the members and their parents.

HYBE has actually called in some of the members' parents, trying to persuade them to come back by offering solo albums. ㅎㅎ

If the smear article gets published… don’t believe it. I’ll delete this post in a bit.

---

A Youtube comment by user 흥이돋고말았네 around September last year says, and I translate:

"As someone who's been through this kind of situation before, let me give you some advice on how the company might act moving forward. Be sure to prepare for this. In 100 out of 100 cases, the company will try to shift public attention by sowing discord among the members. Their mindset is, "If you're standing united against us, we need to break that unity." So instead of focusing on NewJeans vs. the company, they’ll try to create conflict between the members themselves. They might also try to target the parents behind the scenes, offering solo opportunities or revealing contract details that could cause tension among the members. You must not fall for this. You need to stand together and trust one another. Unity is survival, and the moment you are divided, it's over. Talk to each other often to prevent any seeds of doubt from growing—not just among the members, but also with the supportive adults around you right now."

#jeanzforfree

[short laurel]

Nj parents might make posts that dispatch news is false.

[stiff prairie]

oh nvm you guys were talking about it already

but how do we know what's dispatch upto before they post anything?

[mild mist]

insiders presumably

[upbeat stream]

In Loona's case, Lee Jin-ho showed evidence of Chuu's mother attacking the other girls. Using that, he said that the girls hate Chuu and she caused all the problems

[stiff prairie]

insiders could do us more of a favor and show hybe's involvement w dispatch

[upbeat stream]

I'm really scared of our fandom losing their collective minds if...

[waxen musk]

The instant the girls tel us what’s next from them, all of this will be a waste of time. I think it would benefit them to start to announce basic plans for their future sometime soon.

[stiff prairie]

the name suggestion was that exactly

[waxen musk]

Yeah, pretty much.

[stiff prairie]

and all of the girls had their say in the two live streams, even introverted haerin asw. i don't see anyone falling for hybe's shenanigans after all these.

[upbeat stream]

The famdom needs to stay calm and composed, the public and casual listeners won't care, nothing moves the needle because people made up their minds a long time ago

[stiff prairie]

i have a lowkey feeling they'll target haerin. there was a truck campaign for haerin's lack of involvement after supernatural while mhj was ceo. hybe might think solo haerin stans are a good target to start the division amongst bunnies

[short laurel]

If haerin stans don't know why her involvement was less during supernatural, they not deserve to call themselves haerin stans.

The fact og ador found a way to include her in mv is already amazing.

[hoary frost]

Or the Minji vs Haerin arc

[stiff prairie]

what's that? do people actually think they're opps fr?

[hoary frost]

It doesnt matter if its real or not lol Hybe will make it into something big

Theyre desperate and will use anything

[stiff prairie]

i'll be there when h stans will say x is poor girl who gave into peer pressure from other members to ditch hybe

[short laurel]

Wasn't it jk who gave into peer pressure to renew with hybe?

[stiff prairie]

i don't know enough about them tbh

[copper jetty]

i thought it was v?

[short laurel]

It was 1 member ok

[copper jetty]

this might be why newjeans parents opened that instagram account

Hybe really is dirty. They're not only attacking the members but their families now themselves?

[twin cypress]

What’s going on rn I just woke up

[short laurel]

This hood

[twin cypress]

So the dispatch thing is saying a members parent wanted to accept a solo deal but the member didn’t?

How does that relate to haerin being less in supernatural?

[stiff prairie]

the article hasn't dropped yet. but i'm guessing they'll say parents accepted it

[stiff prairie]

i brought it up cause there was a truck protest while mhj was ceo about her lack of footage in supernatural

[waxen musk]

Are you mixing up Hyein and Haerin?

[short laurel]

I was replying to this.

Dam i did mixed up.

There was lack of footage of cat kang in supernatural?

No one aside from ash corrected me btw.

[stiff prairie]

i thought i was the one who's missing smth lol

[waxen musk]

I suspect the Supernatural MVs were had heavily cut scenes based on what I heard and parts of the behind. Ended up with Haerin not doing much in the MV. Also Part 2 was delayed, remember.

But other than her lack of scenes in the MV I don’t remember any other issues people had with the lack of Haerin.

Anyway stop speculating on who may or may not be involved in this rumoured report. It’s easy to start thinking of the members with less activity on IG than the others. I get it. But that’s how Haerin was on Phoning too so it’s not strange. Besides her last content on IG was on the 25th.

[stiff prairie]

after the mv behind was pposted on yt, haerin said smth along like i don't know how much of me you'll see in the scene but i will do my best. (the scene was where hyein and minji were seemingly fighting for the guy and haerin was observing from behind with shades on) some fans took as haerin not getting enough footage and sent trucks.

[twin cypress]

Haerin my bias but Haerin too introverted to be a solo artist 😭.

[stiff prairie]

haerin was my first bias because of how similar i found her to myself. a lot of introverted artists do well as solo. i'm sure she'll thrive as a solo artist when the time's right which isn't right now obviously

[short laurel]

Ok my point remains the same then. If people are hating on why haerin is less visible, they don't deserve to be her fans. Real fan knows she's introverted

[stiff prairie]

they said smth like haerin can't say for herself to mhj that i need more footage etc. that's why we're sending truck messages on her behalf

[short laurel]

N no way some people think minji n haerin fighting in mv as real fight

[flint stone]

Minji and Hanni?

[short laurel]

Yea they dumb. We've seen throughout their career how much creative freedom nj is given.

[short laurel]

Ok. I m sick rn n my brain not braining. I'll remain quiet

I m really fake fan dam. 😭

[stiff prairie]

about minji v haerin i saw a tiktok that pushed this agenda by using a pic (i forgot who) minji/haerin posted with the other one's face edited out with black marker. honestly i don't remember that pic but even if it does exist, we know their way of having fun is bickering w each other.

[stiff prairie]

i'm also confused now. minji v hanni was a thing ever lol?

[flint stone]

It's from one of the Instagram posts

[flint stone]

Minji and Hanni had a "fight" in supernatural mv

[stiff prairie]

i forgot. still like we know that's how they have fun w each other. those who are not bunnies wouldn't understand

[flint stone]

And if we talk about Minji and Haerin, they are like Tom and Jerry

[stiff prairie]

i love these dynamics about them. minji haerin is tom and jerry, minji hanni is also fighting besties, haerin dani is loving besties etc

anyways main thing is bunnies gotta stay together no matter what dispatch/hybe put out there. pretty sure jeanz pr will release their say if hybe pushes any narrative like that

[flint stone]

Minji and Hanni just like to tease eachother

[stiff prairie]

"to my sweet darling"

[twin cypress]

Def not Minji or hanni parents cause those ones been the most vocal lol

[stiff prairie]

the way hybe moves i won't be surprised if they moved for everyone's parents behind the scene. whoever folds will be their starting point to persuade others

i just noticed how we're alr invested in who that/those members might be even before the article drops. after it drops some of those members' solo stans might fold i'm afraid.

i'm anticipating some quick rebuttal on the pr account that all members and parents stand together and has no intention of going back to ador

[waxen musk]

It would be nice if everyone just turned off their brains and stopped saying anything until the girls comeback is explicitly confirmed. But we yap instead.

And again it basically already is confirmed with the new name search.

[stiff prairie]

yeah too much info is bad lol

[hoary frost]

U r rlly confusing ne LOL

[short laurel]

I m bed ridden, vomit when i eat, my brain is not functioning like normal.

[stiff prairie]

hellokitty what will you do if dispatch says minji's parents agreed for her to go back to ador and have a solo album tmrw

[stiff prairie]

did you see a doctor? sounds serious

[short laurel]

Yea i m on antibiotics

[stiff prairie]

get well soon

[copper jetty]

we didn't correct you because it did happen. I believe it was her chinese fans that were complaining.

[hoary frost]

Might really burn ador down

But they wont because Minji and her parents are smart people

[stiff prairie]

i'm sure it'll be a lie whoever they name

[copper jetty]

Idk if any parent will fold though. I understand wanting more for your daughter but are we forgetting that Hybe actually media played not just the members but their parents as well?

I doubt that the parents would even trust what hybe was saying

[stiff prairie]

if i were hybe i'd target the family that has least money. make them afraid of legal expenses/penalties to make them fold

[copper jetty]

Also I don't know... If I were newjeans' parents the fact that the company is mediaplaying against my daughter especially the visa thing with Hanni? I won't forgive... It opened the gates to the racist mfs out there

[copper jetty]

True, we'll see though. But I think bunnies, or at least I did, anticipate that dispatch will release something. That's why newjeans parents opened that IG account

[stiff prairie]

i bet they still went after her parents. hanni is arguably most popular so there's money for hybe which they'd love also a significant part of the fandom if they succeed

[stiff prairie]

yeah it's as ash said. they might have started the name finding campagin after their parents got offers from hybe, posted that story and came up w the idea of jeanz pr

[split bramble]

dont read much into it, parents launching joint insta acc to combat these kind of stories show whatever offer from hybe some of them once considered are no longer considered, the artists are united for the prolonged battle ahead

[copper jetty]

Oh i bet they did. Money Hungry sons of ****. Out of all the members Hanni and Haerin are the big ones on solo stans so they probably did try to get them

We'll see what dispatch says. Also, I wonder what their supposed proof is now, like the pictures before.

[half knot]

i can't believe people even take dispatch seriously after 2024

[copper jetty]

Uhmm, yeah. My army friend takes their news as gospel

[ornate vine]

confirmation bias is a crazy drug

[cerulean lake]

it really is 😭😭 never realized how strong it was after learning abt it in psych

[craggy skiff]

Hanni: thank you
Aespann: https://x.com/dittorit/status/1885765580843598233?t=wfgu-fHAHWYhUbKjErvj2A&s=19

Why his post is so funny recently?

[half knot]

this obsession needs to be studied

[cinder narwhal]

where's the dispatch piece

:hannitime:

[wind monolith]

Apparently if i defend nj from incels who get their info from aespaajeans i have a parasocial relationship

[short laurel]

Tell them to take their own advice

[fierce cloak]

Next time thank the haters for spending attention and emotional connection that help NJ get more talks and relevent

[stiff prairie]

so no dispatch drops today?

[tardy smelt]

it's Sunday

[stiff prairie]

oh yeah

they've gone inconsistent with the monday mediaplay schedule tho

[tardy smelt]

i think that jinjjins guy or whatever tf his name was finally got wiped

[flint stone]

No way, really?

[tardy smelt]

*x https://x.com/mnjiviille/status/1886298115822473639

[harsh dove]

@mnjiviille <t:1738563491:d>

[tardy smelt]

and he's disappeared from my block list

[hoary frost]

Yeah

Bye noob

[flint stone]

Finally!

[stiff prairie]

is this heaven?

[flint stone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-happy-jumping-gif-26555219

[hoary frost]

Things are looking up up up up up upper

[stiff prairie]

i was already happy since last night cause my fav football team beat their rivals overwhelmingly
now i'm just over the moon

hope this pos never comes back again ever

[wind monolith]

Fk that little rat i hope his ass never comes back

I wanna say so much more

[hushed whale]

pretty sure he did that a few times before. just deactivated, not suspended

[hoary frost]

Oh

[upbeat stream]

I'm hoping this time it's due to a court summon

[short laurel]

I thought msg should be saying something like "user has been suspended" if he was banned right?

[upbeat stream]

Mf has definitely done enough for a strong defamation case

[stiff prairie]

no suspension?

[steep torrent]

yeah that only pops up when someone deactivated or changed username

[heady gate]

aespann jeans can create a new account easily.

[orchid field]

*x https://x.com/hygracelee/status/1886300743700774940?s=46&t=FGOk5JcS6vsxMTTizzNPiQ

[harsh dove]

@hygracelee <t:1738564117:d>

[short laurel]

Yea i checked. It's not suspended by twitter, it's most likely deactivated. N this person has alt account

[stiff prairie]

i'll take it as a win in these trying times. whatever his alts are they're not as popular yet. we might get peace for a little while

[waxen musk]

Nice!

[copper jetty]

I'm so happy his ass deactivated. Probably k- bunnies got him on that defamation case. fingers crossed

[cerulean lake]

hope he deactivated bc he realized he’s getting punished like sojang

[copper jetty]

Oh I pray so that even his alt account he won't touch...

[upbeat stream]

https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1886353989132034215

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

안녕하세요, 팀 버니즈 입니다. (02.03)
🔗 https://t.co/AJOlyrF1hS

X · Feb 3, 2025, 10:00 AM

That's great, I was waiting for an update from them

[flint stone]

What does it says?

[waxen musk]

I'm amazed at how much this team has been able to actually achieve.

[upbeat stream]

Honestly, generative AI translation seems to be better than traditional ones imo

I mostly use chatgpt or deepseek nowadays

[cerulean lake]

we have to start reporting his alt acc quick if he posts on there so it doesn’t grow and gets hard to suspend

[tardy smelt]

"Even this morning (the 3rd), as soon as the identity of one of the accused was determined, they immediately contacted us expressing an intention to settle"

maybe they actually got his ass this time

[waxen musk]

Translation from the account itself: https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1886360083292152172

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

ENG
* The translation may not be accurate.

X · Feb 3, 2025, 10:24 AM

[cinder narwhal]

*x -c https://x.com/oIdpistoIa/status/1886358615419720034

[harsh dove]

@oIdpistoIa <t:1738577915:d>

Aespannjeans has been sued by Team Bunnies🫶🏽

[wind monolith]

If its rlly him who contacted to settle thats funny asf☠️ ur ass aint getting a settlement

[hoary frost]

Bro when he realizes his actions have consequences:

[steep torrent]

I really hope it's true, praying he doesn't come back in a week

[stiff prairie]

ok so this is the reason. also what settlement lmao

[upbeat stream]

I just saw that Sniper has not tweeted since Jan 11

So perhaps both got sued

[red thorn]

Amen

[copper jetty]

Woah. There's a lot to unpack on that bunnies statement... did I read that everything they archived would be given to the members as proof??

[upbeat stream]

I believe that team bunnies has been in contact with newjeans camp for quite a while

Not officially of course, but they wouldn't do things the way they did without coordination with them directly

[fierce cloak]

oh that would be great, i believe they can contact Sejong lawfirm directly rather than the members themselves
now there is parents email then bunnies can work with them too

[copper jetty]

That PR guy is making his rounds to visit journalists again.

more golf club membership for offer i guess

[jolly junco]

LMAO

[stiff prairie]

you're not upto date these days huh

[jolly junco]

yeah i've been trying to avoid social media ever since the holidays, i felt great during the holidays because i didnt touch my social media at ALL

i only open my instagram to check on jeanzforfree update

[stiff prairie]

dopamine detoxing? good for you

check ash's text above. the team bunny statement

[jolly junco]

my friend sent me about this news, ITS SO FCKING GREATTTTTTTT

happiest day on earth

[hoary frost]

Sit down when u hear this
Apparently Aespann got exposed and now Team Bunnies fr on his ass

No vpn gna save bro now 😹

[jolly junco]

i should probably light some fireworks to celebrate

[hoary frost]

Keyboard warrior done done

[jolly junco]

he is finally GONE gone!!! OMG cant believe this day actually happen

[stiff prairie]

he's not totally gone until he gets the sojang treatment. we will be there

[jolly junco]

do you think the media will report if its really him that the team bunnies caught?

i'm afraid HYBE will covered up about this so public wont know

[stiff prairie]

i mean it's already out there. team bunnies have his info. we just need to see if he gets charged for real. who knows if it goes to trials we might find out if he actually had ties with ppl from hybe

[copper jetty]

Guys let's calm down... it's not yet verified that it's him.

Hopefully it is though.

[stiff prairie]

i think it is him. cause team bunnies specifically mentioned today's date and him going out at the same day would be a very big coincident

ok on second thought he might've gotten wind of sb else getting caught today and thought about going into hiding for a while

[copper jetty]

it might just be a huge coincidence, but until bunnies announce the usernames of those account, i won't celebrate yet. He might just be laying low because he might know of someone who was caught

you know how careful he is on his wordings on both his tweets and his bio. Also, I'm anticipating how he's maybe connected to hybe or maybe that PR thing.

[jolly junco]

he literally just deleted the account, its not just some deactivated

high chance its him, but yeah lets just wait for team bunnies announcement

[short laurel]

It's still worth celebrating cuz atleast 1 account whose name we don't know yet got caught

[copper jetty]

sean lim and sniper next

[stiff prairie]

nah he's not that tacky when he's using words like pr0stitutes etc

[jolly junco]

you guys are so updated with his "wording"

[copper jetty]

maybe... but the thing is our fandom usually reports his account like everyday. I do too. lmao but effin twitter just says there was no violation

[copper jetty]

i blocked him, i just mostly see ss of tokkis

[stiff prairie]

same. some even directly reposts

[copper jetty]

ngl, i block those tokkis too if i see that. Not unless it's all over my timeline

[copper jetty]

wait how do you know he deleted the account and not just deactivate?

[jolly junco]

@copper jetty this

[waxen musk]

jeanzforfree on Twitter says the same thing, but if you try to make an account with that name or change your name to it, it says the username is taken. I don't know if that means the account is deactivated and not deleted.

Either way there's no negative news here. Only good.

[copper jetty]

I just checked this.

[waxen musk]

So because the username is not available for other accounts to use, it means it's deactivated?

[short laurel]

Wait 30 days to confirm

[copper jetty]

Yeah but everywhere i check, the process of deleting a twitter account seems to start with deactivation first.

X is giving a chance of 30 days that the user might change their mind. After 30 days then it's permanent and anyone can use that username

So we'll just have to wait and see if he/she/they are gonna come back.

[short laurel]

If it is really the same user teambunnies talking about. They probably made enough money from hybe n are planning to run away from the country.

Assuming they are scared of the coming lawsuit

[hoary frost]

@errant mango what were u saying

[copper jetty]

I just hope he doesn't flee. or if he flees go here to the us. We'll report him daily to ice

[short laurel]

XD

[copper jetty]

[errant mango]

some funny moments

[short laurel]

Report bsh to ice pls

[errant mango]

i actually had a lot of fun that day making them hella mad just for a simple comment

[copper jetty]

sad thing is he has loads of money. Jjinjins though is much more manageable.

[hoary frost]

im crying!!!! bitch hybe has never been a good company, even outside of jeanz. theyre sketchy as shit

[short laurel]

Which one is your comment? Kyoko one?

[errant mango]

yes

[copper jetty]

i'm sorry are we forgetting enhyphen almost passing out, no album release for fromis and them begging for work???

[hoary frost]

oh and lets not forget the outfits they put eunchae in before she was 18, and the choero

[copper jetty]

BTS touring with injuries??? LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN GOOD COMPANY?

[short laurel]

Hybe did shit to everyone of its artists including bts

[hoary frost]

armies are bootlickers for hybe, but hybe doesnt even care for their faves

[errant mango]

yh like they live on a alternative word where they think all the other kpop companies are bad but hybe is the only exception, the same hybe that got exposed for insulting idols like bfr

[short laurel]

With Jk too when they were new group

[copper jetty]

They only marketed themselves as good company but... let's be fr. The fact that LSF only got vacations after 2 years of working??? NO. WTH???

[hoary frost]

im surpised they're with hybes side even after everything they did to BTS. I feel bad for BTS

imagine knowing that your fandom is known for being bitches

[errant mango]

some of them seems to like hybe more than the actual group that's crazy

[hoary frost]

wasnt chaewon super sick and had to be on iv drops or something but they still made her perform

[short laurel]

They always say "you bts anti's call hybe shit while these big 3 are this bad *shows example "
They still don't understand that NO fandom ever supported their own company over idols.

[errant mango]

fr

[hoary frost]

hybe doesnt care for any of their groups, theyre just money hungry

[copper jetty]

they just have a good pr company. That's what

[hoary frost]

not even bts, their main money makers, the group that helped them before they went bankrupt

[short laurel]

Wdym good Pr company? They have been exposed again n again for bs pr

[errant mango]

this is funny too, i just copypasted the text from these dramatic kpop agencies but they actually taked it serious

[hoary frost]

lololololololl all thy do is bark

[errant mango]

sad was in this post that i got banned

[copper jetty]

Also let's not forget that Hybe actually fuels their company fans' behavior. I already lost my respect to their oppas for staying silent to their fans while this were ongoing. (aside from JK)

[errant mango]

I really want to say something tho these idiots but i can't now

[short laurel]

Banned for this? How noob mods are gonna be

[copper jetty]

nah. save your mental health. don't

[errant mango]

lol you're right we shouldn't waste ur time with them but i actually was having fun 😭

[copper jetty]

let's not forget most of the kpop mods are hybe stans and armies so... I wasn't even suprised. Some of them even deleted posts and comments regarding that hybe industry report so yeah. I think only one post got spared

[errant mango]

yh they're so fucking obvious

[short laurel]

Yea kpopuncensored is very censored on hybe stuff except that 1 lucky post

[copper jetty]

I mean, as tag pr said, they're "kicking it" on reddit

[errant mango]

they banned me for spamming when literally everyone was doing so but i was the only mf defending nwjs

anyways i just want that place to be vanished from world but that isn't gonna happen sadly

[short laurel]

They have posted worse shit on every other groups n individuals there but no ban.

[copper jetty]

good night guys. I'm going to sleep now. Hopefully hybe doesn't release anything in the next 8 hours. Also I'm surpised. No media play Monday

[waxen musk]

I won't lie, after the talk we had after that pre-warning I was expecting something on Sunday or Monday, and we got nothing. Also the fact the girls were completely silent on Sunday had me worried because of the timing but luckily they were active on Monday and said they were busy on Sunday. lol they can't go with one day of no activity without my mind racing, specifically after a discussion like we had the day prior.

[copper jetty]

Actually same. I hope Bunnies releasing their statement and the parents opening the instagram account become a deterrent to the dispatch article but we could only wish though.

good night guys.

[waxen musk]

gn!

[short laurel]

I often forget aespaajeans is not just nj hater but aespa hater too. So 2 fandoms are celebrating tgis

[jolly junco]

maybe its just me, but ever since my social media cleanse i have a very positive mind about the future of jeanz

the only social media i checked out for the past 2 months is instagram and thats only for jeanzforfree page. I saw how much they try to communicate with us thru IG and thats enough to tell me that they are fine and everything is going to be OK

I never thought, not even for a sec, that they are going to lose this war

[waxen musk]

Oh I have complete confidence in them too when I stop to think about it properly, especially when the girls show up and seem excited. It's hard not to contemplate the worst case scenarios whenever new bs comes out though, but in the end it doesn't change my confidence. Really focusing on the girls only, like you did, helps a lot. They're confident.

[jolly junco]

The only sources i’m going to trust is these 4, thats it. It makes me happy, far from negative thought

I dont event need juan tokki or anyone. This is all i need because when there is something good i trust that the girls will share it with us as well

[waxen musk]

So much of the discussion and everything is just noise until actual results happen. Has any of the media play actually resulted in anything other than people already hating them just continuing to do so? Nothing changing on the side of people who trust them. Such a waste of time, I don't know why I spend so much of it just keeping up to date lol. I should copy you and stop looking.

Hopefully proper results through the courts happen soon. It's a short month, so if not this month, then March will be soon.

[jolly junco]

Lol yeah exactly. I just realize it too over the holidays. Every BS they spouting in mediaplay had no result in terms of legality

[waxen musk]

If they resort to media rather than holding onto evidence like that for the courts, then yeah, pretty obvious that it's of no use other than to hurt their image.

Anyway it's all been said before, just yapping.

[split bramble]

i feel like suing them isnt enough, they should look to prove hybe been feeding these incels pointers

[short laurel]

If they are being investigated, police will try to find the motive, many of them should be able to prove hybe's involvement. That's assuming these ppl were not doing hybe pr for free

So suing is enough.

[cinder verge]

can someone explain the current status between newjeans' members and ador? I'm not really tapped in like that

[jolly junco]

ADOR to jeanz = ex-employer
jeanz to ADOR = world star they wouldnt want to let go

[cinder verge]

is the contract officially terminated ? what legal proceedings are still underway

[jolly junco]

NJ Team already said it was terminated on November last year, why doubt it?

[tardy smelt]

near future, injunction filed by ADOR to block new advertising deals
far future, contract termination validation case
far far future, NewJeans IP rights

[cinder verge]

i just read some misinformation on instagram so i thought i was tripping

[marsh sorrel]

Someone will give 500 won if someone can dig into his account privacy

[tardy smelt]

all you need to be aware of is what i mentioned. no need to get caught up in someone else's interpretation. we gotta wait for them rulings but in the meantime, just enjoy what's happening now content-wise.

[cinder verge]

alright, thanks

[wind monolith]

pretty sure he has put the account for deletion now instead of suspended

[stiff prairie]

We need one of these to go to jail asap so other cyber wreckers out there gets in line

[cinder narwhal]

how are sniper and sean lim accounts

[short laurel]

Sniper has been quite for some time. No idea about sean lim.

[upbeat stream]

I think Sniper is also done. He was so active, posting multiple times a day and then abruptly stopped on Jan 11

So much stuff has happened since then like ador filing injunction, nwjns and parents releasing statements, he would have surely tweeted

You know, it would be so easy to shut down that reddit megathread if only nwjns team asks reddit admins. We should tell team bunnies to reach out to nwjns' law firm or pr firm to do it

Reddit is not like it was 10 years ago, the current admins are very compliant with such requests. All they have to do is ask directly, and since kpop subreddit is very large and not entirely obsessed with just hating nwjns, it'll comply easily

[stiff prairie]

what are you talking about. almost all big subs have same admins and they clearly endorse newjeans hatred. you'll see every now and then hate posts are allowed when it's against newjeans and if smth bad about hybe comes out they just shut off megathreads, deletes negative posts constantly, even bans you if you talk about bts in the same tone they do towards newjeans.

[upbeat stream]

I think you're confusing admins and mods. Admins work for reddit, their job is to enforce reddit's sitewide rules on communities that misbehave while mods are just normal users selected by a particular subreddit to manage it

Admins are not part of any subreddit, essentially I meant reach out to reddit staff themselves

[stiff prairie]

oh yeah my bad. still it's complicated imo. reddit haters aren't like twitter haters. they disguise their hatred as concerns. they might spew the same nonsense out there from twitter but the wordings aren't as derogatory. idk if their tones changed since it's been a while since i went to those subs.

[cerulean lake]

yup reddit users like to act like they’re so smart and mask their hate with “concerns”. Their words used to not be so derogatory but not anymore bc they see how those mods protect them and how it’s an echo chamber so they are fine with saying all that bad stuff.

[steep torrent]

man some of these quotes on that post about hanni reposting chappell roans speech are so funny. saying she's privileged to be having a penthouse and regular vacations bc of hybe

vacations bc of hybe

[cerulean lake]

if that’s their logic every group under hybe is privileged

[shy schooner]

Apparently they think it’s only NJ

[fleet nebula]

that assumes they think with logic and not just braindead emotions

[upbeat stream]

Hybe stans trend hashtags for mistreatment every other day but then also claim that nwjns is privileged?

The hypocrisy lol

[hoary frost]

Every group under hybe is mistreated in some way

[cerulean lake]

i feel like these stans don’t understand nuance nor context. They were going after hanni saying that she’s a millionaire and that Chappell’s speech doesn’t correlate with her but do they not realize that Chappell is also a millionaire 😭😭

like if they only see her speech in a money context then they need to go and learn how to open up their minds 🤨 + that millionaire excuse can apply to literally any other idol under hybe

[cerulean lake]

true literally someone tweeted that hanni is privileged and therefore not mistreated but they had the audacity to link their post of txt facing mistreatment and bad dorm conditions under their post

i remember everyone putting down nwjn’s and their parents’ statement of their dorm conditions being bad but when another group talks about it, it’s considered truthful 🙄

[hoary frost]

what does hanni being a millionaire correlate with a speech ..

[hoary frost]

They praise their faves for something but once another idol does it that they don't like, they begin hating

[cerulean lake]

literally what i’m confused abt bc that’s what those antis are trying to bring up in response to her reposting chappell’s speech

[cinder narwhal]

let them cook

[short laurel]

When hanni reposted her speech. She wasn't looking at nj but all of kpop idols. Haters clearly don't understand this.
There's so many kids in the industry trapped with trainee dept n no way to recover from it. BBC was just one of the big ones but there are many smaller crueler companies there. N Hybe too put trainees in trainee dept, due u guys know big 3 removed trainee dept long ago, hybe for being "top" kpop company still has it.

Also u guys remember hanni attending NA. Her presence there was part of another older on going discussion for giving idols better treatment like giving them wages n reducing training dept.

[cinder narwhal]

she posted other speeches too tbh i think she's just enjoying the grammys

people from both sides are overthinking it.

[short laurel]

Regardless of her intentions, hanni's reposting it n this speech spreading in kpop do good for kpop. More people in kpop needs to realise how messed up kpop is. It works in favour of artists.

[waxen musk]

Things are too quiet if people are still talking about this. Why is it so quiet?!

[stiff prairie]

that about music twt of hanni sharing it has 86k likes. there are haters in the qrts talking shit but i see that as very insignificant. only bunnies are bringing those qrts up for response which i think isn't worth it

[waxen musk]

Those websites like to report on the smallest things but they get so many eyes on them just because of the size of the accounts. But yeah the terrible responses to ridiculously minor events such as this getting talked about so much because Tokkis feel the need to defend against the huge wave of negativity just brings so much more attention to it and has me worried that Hanni will just be unable to avoid seeing so much shit being talked about her constantly. And it really feels constant to me.

[stiff prairie]

this basically. when will we learn not everything requires a response or "clap back". sometimes ignoring them is the best insult we can give

[stiff prairie]

*x https://x.com/luenacore/status/1887103155655315955 -c

[harsh dove]

@luenacore <t:1738755427:d>

Kim & Chang, the law firm in Korea currently hired by HYBE for their defense, has been found in violation of labor laws.

The investigation resulted from a petition by a former U.S. employee, who revealed that Kim & Chang overworked associate lawyers (ASSO lawyers) without adhering to labor regulations. Unlike other major law firms that adjusted to the 52-hour workweek law, Kim & Chang ignored it, forcing associate lawyers to work 60–70 hours a week, often late nights and weekends. Many lawyers suffer from stress and health issues, with some seeking medical help. The Seoul Employment and Labor Office determined that Kim & Chang had violated Articles 17 and 93 of the Labor Standards Act.

It’s funny how anyone tied to HYBE seems to have a criminal past or present. Birds of a feather really do flock together.

[short laurel]

rank 1* lawfirm btw

but curious. how do these lawyers fight back if they want to. do they hire themselves from kim & chang to sue kim & chang ?

[fierce cloak]

oh i hope the lawyers fed up and go against the lawfirm to weaken them, maybe they can quit their job and join sejong instead

[short laurel]

can 2 opposing party hire lawyers from same law firm in SK?

in some countries they can as long as both lawyers are different(some USA states...).

[short laurel]

I wonder if this drama goes to court will kim &chang hire their own lawyers they mistreated to defend themselves?

[heady gate]

The last pinned message was on Dec 5. Any new development or mediaplay?

[cerulean lake]

not rn but have to enjoy it now bc media play probably gonna get worse when it nears the injunction

[cinder narwhal]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1887322525505577350

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1738807729:d>

NewJeans’ Exclusive Contract Confirmation Lawsuit: First Trial in April… Will They Become Independent from ADOR?
https://www.news1.kr/society/incident-accident/5681018

• ADOR filed a civil lawsuit against NewJeans members in December last year
• Also requested an injunction to maintain its status as their agency and block independent advertising contracts

News1 Reporter Noh Seon-woong

The legal battle over the exclusive contract between girl group NewJeans and their agency, ADOR, is set to begin in April.

According to legal sources on the 6th, the 41st Civil Division of the Seoul Central District Court (Presiding Judge Jeong Hoe-il) has scheduled the first hearing for ADOR’s exclusive contract confirmation lawsuit against NewJeans members for April 3 at 11:30 AM.

NewJeans members previously declared in a press conference last November that their exclusive contract with ADOR had been terminated. They stated their intention to reclaim the name “NewJeans” through legal proceedings and pursue independent activities. They also made it clear that they would never return to ADOR, even launching a contest for a potential new group name as a contingency plan, signaling their commitment to independence.

In response, ADOR maintained that the exclusive contract with NewJeans remains valid and filed a lawsuit in December with the Seoul Central District Court to confirm its legal standing.

Additionally, ADOR requested an injunction to preserve its status as the group’s agency and to prohibit the members from signing independent advertising contracts.

At the time, ADOR expressed its regret over the situation, stating, “It is unfortunate that the members are attempting independent entertainment activities, such as holding a contest for a new group name, before any legal judgment has been made, as this could constitute a serious breach of contract.”

NewJeans swiftly responded by announcing through an official sta

[cinder narwhal]

put it on the sched since there's nothing anyway

[tardy smelt]

finally, an actual real update

they're getting things going sooner than i expected

[jolly junco]

where is mod? pin this please

finally something legal will happen

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1887324831567274299?t=A4LaP8gEAk3CAIS8nvAZpA&s=19

. (@NJBUBBLEGUM) on X

(250206)
ILGAN SPORTS
[Exclusive] First hearing date set for March 7th on ADOR's injunction to prohibit NewJeans' advertising contracts
Reporter Park Se-yeon
https://t.co/agkNFU8BC4

X · Feb 6, 2025, 2:17 AM

3/7 injunction hearing
4/3 contract validity hearing

[wind monolith]

we are in the final season eh

[tardy smelt]

final season is gonna drag for a while, attack on titan style

[dapper root]

we hit the pin limit in this thread

[tardy smelt]

ahaha

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1887206844588040193

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

HYBEcels have two irreconcilable narratives they keep parroting:

1) NewJeans was never mistreated at HYBE because they paid off their debts within two months, was compensated well, lived well and always got vacations every cycle of promotions

and

2) Min Hee Jin is an evil

X · Feb 5, 2025, 6:29 PM

[wind monolith]

it was so quiet for the past week im happy we finally getting somewhere

[tardy smelt]

apparently MHJ had a hearing 2 weeks ago to terminate her shareholder agreement, with the next hearing on April 17

tbh idk if i can be bothered keeping up with the pile of court cases MHJ has going on

i'm just gonna focus on the main ones

[stiff prairie]

April 3rd is much sooner than I'd expect on the main lawsuit. I expected it to take year to get to court. Hopefully all these end quickly and smoothly for the girls

Isn't march 7 also the date for somu v mhj?

[stiff prairie]

And when did this happen? How come no noise came out for this like belift v mhj one?

[tardy smelt]

[stiff prairie]

my copium pill says it's probably a good thing. if anything positive for hybe came out of that we wouldn't hear the end of it

[upbeat stream]

I had assumed every case related to this would be public but somehow the shareholders agreement one isn't

[craggy skiff]

1/06 MHJ vs. B mediation failed
1/10 MHJ vs. Belift &SouMu 1st debate
1/23 MHJ vs. HYBE 1st debate

3/07 MHJ vs. Belift 2nd debate
NJS vs. ADOR injunction 1st hearing
3/14 MHJ vs. SouMu 2nd debate
4/03 NJS vs. ADOR main 1st debate
4/17 MHJ vs. HYBE 2nd debate

[upbeat stream]

For the contract validity lawsuit, we can expect a court date every 2-3 months, so the next one would be in June. It should take over an year, so really the injunction is so crucial

[stiff prairie]

put these on the dusty schedule instead of activities

[stable escarp]

Mhj fighting for her life against 3 giants

[waxen musk]

Is there anything else we're waiting on, or are all of these upcoming dates everything we should expect (nothing in Feb?)

[tardy smelt]

we should expect a redebut announcement (but srs, nah, nothing else)

[waxen musk]

Redebut on 2/27 (reverse of 7/22) 👀
But good to have some dates to "look forward" to

[tardy smelt]

surely it's gotta be 22nd of Feb for redebut. the 22nd is special for some reason. July 22nd , April 22nd

[waxen musk]

stfu

nah tbh I don't even know when to expect anything on that front. Seriously they could do it at any moment with no warning. But I think anything actually happening in February is unlikely other than maybe an announcement for a later date.

[tardy smelt]

mm i'm not expecting anything until after the injunction at least, seems like they've only started working on things at the beginning of this month

[short laurel]

Unless it becomes open n shut case. Which i hope for. Any one of reason nj gave should be enough for that.

[stiff prairie]

what happened in april 22?

[tardy smelt]

the beginning of this drama

[stiff prairie]

ahh the first conference of mhj

[jolly junco]

no, the first media news coverage about MHJ

the day HYBE dropped the bomb about MHJ's audit

[tardy smelt]

i was a baby bunny back then thinking "i'm glad the group i picked for my return to k-pop has no major controversies". imagine my surprise a few days later seeing mhj's face on a youtube thumbnail that morning.

[stiff prairie]

i got into this whole thing after mhj conference. before that it was all sunshine and rainbows for me

i remember i used to trust the asian culture smth youtube channel on the first week of all these thinking she was actually neutral in the whole matter

[tardy smelt]

it was sunshine and rainbows for me until the Minji kalguksu thing last January, then it was all downhill from there

[jolly junco]

congrats, you survived

[waxen musk]

Same

But we’re sticking around for a reason.

[jolly junco]

bunnies who stick around knows they are not in the wrong, thats why

[tardy smelt]

it's been pretty sunshine and rainbows for me though since they broke off on Nov 29, despite the odds

[stiff prairie]

kalguksu thing didn't really hit me. i saw one or two vids and that's it. i thought it's just kpop init?

[jolly junco]

minji lost her smile ever since that kalguksu thing

[waxen musk]

ETA thing was so ridiculous and didn’t really affect the girls, but Minji going afk for quite a while was scary.

[tardy smelt]

it just made me sad because Minji stopped being active for a while and she was the only member i was interested in at the time

[waxen musk]

I think them being so active on Phoning gives a lot of us almost an expectation to see them all the time. When they should be allowed to go afk for a week whenever they want without people constantly asking where they are. Even I fail this.

[jolly junco]

nah, knowing minji she will go online whenever she have free time. So your worries back then is very reasonable

[tardy smelt]

if we're talking about inactivity these days, i don't question it, i just pass it off as they're cooking stuff in silence

[jolly junco]

bunnies can feel that Minji doesnt feel "obligated" to go online and have a conversation with bunnies, she just loves to have a chat with us

there is a difference and we can feel it

[waxen musk]

I don’t even know if they’re busy or still on holiday tbh. Really not a lot of crumbs.

[jolly junco]

busy preparing NJ1 i always tell myself this when i havent heard from them for like 4-5 days

[tardy smelt]

i'm pretty sure holidays are over considering Minji's post about the holidays being over and them mentioning everyone was busy on that day no one posted on the ig

[waxen musk]

Oh yeah on Sunday. I guess. But still not much to go on. I wouldn’t expect them to be sitting around doing nothing no matter how little they tell us even if they are on holiday still (which I don’t believe).

[stiff prairie]

i don't think they're cooking tho. they'd start cooking if they were together. hanni said smth about this matter i forgot. others will start living together where she was staying or smth like that. i think 250/frnk are cooking tho, after they done their magic, the girls start their part

[tardy smelt]

by cooking, i mean planning and collaborating, not necessarily practicing for anything because i doubt they have any solid material rn

[waxen musk]

I dunno we really don’t know anything and just analysing based on the smallest things lol.

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/cinetokki/status/1887348956784697399

CineJeanz 🎬🐰 (@cinetokki) on X

📌 Key Lawsuits & Legal Milestones for Tokkis to Follow:

Confirmed Court Dates:
• January 10 – Min Heejin’s (MHJ) first hearing against Bethief & Source Music.
• March 7 – ADOR’s advertisement injunction hearing.
• March 7 – MHJ’s second hearing against Bethief.
• March 14 –

X · Feb 6, 2025, 3:53 AM

prepare for end of february with lots of mediaplay from HYBE

[waxen musk]

I’m amazed they’ve been able to restrain themselves for almost like 2 weeks or something. Or am I forgetting? I can’t even remember the last media play because it’s usually so easy to ignore if it’s some topic that’s just a repeat of something from last year.

[stiff prairie]

the dispatch article was last week no?

[jolly junco]

IMO they cant keep doing this now because of jeanz_pr

that account can easily shot down any mediaplay against MHDHH

[waxen musk]

The pre-warning of something that never happened?

[tardy smelt]

the davolink thing

i think the last thing they made a comment on was the members announcing they're looking for group names

[stiff prairie]

and mhj hanni meeting a lawyer

[tardy smelt]

yeah that, not the davolink thing

[stiff prairie]

they'll twist what's said in that account too dw

[tardy smelt]

honestly, i've stopped keeping up with media play stuff months ago (though i'm forced to see it against my will on my timeline). much less exhausting following only updates from the ig and fan accounts for content and waiting for the actual court stuff

[stiff prairie]

[wind monolith]

two court battles on the same day ggs

we in for a ride

[stiff prairie]

hope our girls get the better lawyers that day

[cinder narwhal]

https://x.com/tina2nHR/status/1887329479477109160

tin #MAOMAO'S CHEERLEADER🐈‍⬛🖤 (@tina2nHR) on X

good lord 😭

X · Feb 6, 2025, 2:36 AM

since november these has happened (including gd-dani rumors lol)

[tardy smelt]

atp i can't tell if there's some legitimacy to this shit or if it's still just massive copium and confirmation bias

never been one to believe in fortune tellings but i might just have to start believin'

[cinder narwhal]

just consider it as yapping like all the other yappers

they're not so different from the likes of juan or kpoppie

[short laurel]

About these fortuner teller, when they initially posted this. They were calling mhj as bad. So they are not someone u guys wanna trusts.

[warm shard]

So nothing until March?

Hopefully Hybe doesn't wake up mid February

[waxen musk]

Hopefully Hybe doesn't wake up at all

[steep torrent]

im pretty sure he's the one who pushed to sign hanni and even custom made outfits. I hope this isnt bad news
https://x.com/wwd/status/1887405729218277832?s=46

WWD (@wwd) on X

BREAKING: Sabato De Sarno Exits Gucci https://t.co/RwHEc8Esay

X · Feb 6, 2025, 7:39 AM

[waxen musk]

Yeah he worked quite closely with her.

[short laurel]

low chance his exit will affect existing ambassadors. hanni is one of the bigger names in kpop and gucci won't let her go just cuz gucci's creative director resigned.

[hoary frost]

Lmao

it’s so fake

[sly python]

so we wait till March for any solid updates, thanks

[errant mango]

y'all saw the post about newjeans dedicated anti accounts

on reddit

[cerulean lake]

send a ss bc i refuse to go on anti infested reddit

plus they probably gonna take it down bc the mods are so biased

[errant mango]

https://x.com/fl9mee/status/1887203982625366155?t=3bnfLSxTCAPkbf9UIqTYAA&s=19

fl9me (@fl9mee) on X

this is weird. i don't like to be conspiratorial but there multiple accounts on reddit that literally their only purpose is commenting negative things on nwjs posts, like why a normal person would do this kind of thing?

X · Feb 5, 2025, 6:17 PM

[frozen bronze]

thats a good one

[mild mist]

I've got a bridge to sell if that guy's interested

[errant mango]

the fic

but props for the creativity

[cerulean lake]

ohh ur talking abt this post on twt

i’m not surprised if there are paid bots roaming around

[tardy smelt]

spoke this shit into existence

[fleet nebula]

proud of you

[wind monolith]

crazy how hybe had no clue what was going on with all that stalking they do

[red thorn]

Nice try to give spoiler, njz pr

[jolly junco]

cant believe they goin on stage THIS MARCH !!!

[tardy smelt]

expecting some bullshit statement from ador later today

[upbeat stream]

They may even file another injunction, expect the worst from them

[ocean arch]

I am excited and scared at the same time

[cinder narwhal]

if they file for injunction it doesn't mean the injunction is in effect already right? since there's a hearing first and they dont hold those asap

[steep torrent]

just wondering how releasing music will work. it'll be under NJZ on streaming platforms? but will they change it to NewJeans after they get their name back?

[upbeat stream]

Of course not, the court will have to grant it for it to have any effect

[waxen musk]

Still a lot of questions but with new song in March I think we won't have to wait nearly as long as I was expected to get answers to all of these.

[ocean arch]

Is complexchinese their new label?

[waxen musk]

A media company hosting festivals.

Media being like, posting articles on a website type media.

[upbeat stream]

Yeah I knew Complex Music, they post a lot of hip-hop stuff

Had no idea there's Complex Chinese so I too got confused

[waxen musk]

No idea if any of this is MHJ's creation. Would be very unexpected if it wasn't.

[jolly junco]

yeah there is no mention about who the producer for their new song

[waxen musk]

The lack of very important details suggests things about how this is happening but I'm just reading into basically nothing, and we could learn about all this in a few hours anyway. Best to wait and see.

[sick fable]

Tbh I've seen very little posting on MHJ side in regards to NJZ for a while now

[wind monolith]

she liked the posts thats all we know,nothing else if she had any hand in it

[cosmic belfry]

It's their mutual benefit if they kept her involvement quiet for now

[red thorn]

All I'm quite sure, from the look of it
Choi Yumi and Gabe Sin still there to cook
The long time mhj's task force Nayeon Kim, her sensibility nowhere no be seen here
I could be wrong ofc

[jolly junco]

we will know more on the day they perform, i'm sure they will spill the team behind

regardless i'm just glad they can comeback on stage to perform

[dark glade]

NewJeans announcing performing solo and changing their name without ADOR’s approval is a major contract breach under Korean law. ADOR could sue for damages, claim trademark rights, and potentially blacklist them from the industry. If proven a material breach, the members might face financial penalties, lawsuits, and career restrictions. Unless they prove ADOR violated their contract first, this move could severely harm their future in K-pop.

[hoary frost]

Are u slow theyre no longer under ADOR

[waxen musk]

here we go. Just wait and see. I have confidence because they do. This has been talked about for MONTHS in here so you're not saying anything new.

[dark glade]

This totally could of been handled so much better

they are still under ador

[wind monolith]

they purposely took this route if u were not clocked in but u got it

[dark glade]

nothing has been fully terminated the court case starts in april

[hoary frost]

Oh so u r slow

[upbeat stream]

Joined Dec 2024 😐

[wind monolith]

this shit happens monthly

[tawdry vessel]

im tired boss

[hoary frost]

OMG ITS A LITTLE 7

LMAOOOOOOOOOO THE STEREOTYPE IS CRAZY 😭😭😭😭😭

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[tawdry vessel]

can y'all let us be happy... pls go back to twitter

[dark glade]

nope your wrong

[wind monolith]

fr this is suppose to be a happy moment and we got ppl coming going this and that

[cosmic belfry]

They know what they're doing. They were going to get tied up in courts no matter what. They forced HYBE do the dirty work and they can perform. It's a win for their careers.

[dark glade]

NJ filed for termination of their contracts but In response, ADOR disputed the validity of the contract termination and initiated legal action to enforce the existing agreements, asserting that the contracts remain in effect until 2029.

[upbeat stream]

It's disputed meaning ador can't do anything until the court rules on it

[cosmic belfry]

I feel like you're hellbent on the "rules" and not realizing they can bend them.

[upbeat stream]

NJ did NOT file for anything. You are misinformed. Go learn about the case first before yapping here

[waxen musk]

Yes, NJZ and ADOR disagree. We will have to wait for the courts' verdict. Move on. None of us KNOW anything until it's confirmed through the courts, but we're trusting the girls (they're not stupid). Nothing else to really say to you.

[jolly junco]

they are not

[dark glade]

they can, NJ have just breached their contracts this shouldent of been done, I just wish the best for them as I really love NJ but doing this is not good at all

[hoary frost]

ITS A LITTLE 7

[dark glade]

They are becuase ador did not agree to it

[hoary frost]

Its a little 7 everyone dont engage 😭😭😭😭😭

[upbeat stream]

Answer my question. Where did NJ file for termination? Show me.

[frozen bronze]

if ador can prove that they do not qualify for breach of trust then yes, the contract was never terminated and nj just breached contract

if they cant prove that they have been acting in nj's best interest then nj's decision to step away is valid and the contract has been stopped for a while now

[dark glade]

bro sorry, like I dont mean to sound rude but its how the law works, I wish the girls the best but what they have just done is breach their contract and stop telling me im wrong, when im not

[wind monolith]

discord lawyer

[upbeat stream]

Cite the relevant korean civil law

[frozen bronze]

you just dont know the full story, you would be correct if ador didnt breach their trust

[waxen musk]

Waste your time with them if you want guys.

[upbeat stream]

Can't answer any of my questions lmao

[hoary frost]

Little 7s are fighting with their demons not us

[frozen bronze]

"stop telling me im wrong" is not how a discussion works

[dark glade]

Under Korean contract law, a contract is a legally enforceable agreement between two or more parties. Termination clauses and dispute resolution mechanisms are usually detailed within the contract. If a party believes there has been a breach, they may seek legal recourse through the courts. The standard contract allows for termination after seven years; however, specific terms can vary, and any extension requires mutual written consent.

In the case of NewJeans, their departure from ADOR and the subsequent legal disputes would be evaluated based on these regulations and the specific terms outlined in their contract. The resolution would depend on the contractual obligations, any alleged breaches, and the protections afforded under South Korean law.

[frozen bronze]

..thats what they did

[upbeat stream]

There you go. You played yourself since you don't know the actual terms of the contract

[dark glade]

yea so the girls have said, they have left ador but ador has not confirmed this

[upbeat stream]

YOU, I'm talking about you

[cosmic belfry]

They set themselves up to argue exactly why they unilaterally terminated it. Of course HYBE isn't going to agree but now it's up to the courts. They did everything according to their contracts.

[frozen bronze]

they dont need ador's approval ebcause of one of the termination clauses in the contract (very similar to how mhj was "fired" by hybe)

[dark glade]

both parties need to agree also some of you are actually just so rude, I really like nj and their music i'm just more concerned how this has maybe messed up their carrer but I guess well find out in april

[wind monolith]

did mhj agree when hybe fired mhj??

[frozen bronze]

both parties do not need to agree

[upbeat stream]

No both parties don't need to agree

[cosmic belfry]

There is a unilateral clause in their contract if they didn't meet their demands.

[upbeat stream]

Show me where it says so in nwjns contract

[wind monolith]

hell bent on having ador with nj

[frozen bronze]

it would help if you didnt speak like your word is the law and dont say "stop telling me im wrong when im not"

[upbeat stream]

Why don't you show me nwjns contract with all its clauses, Cami?

[frozen bronze]

if you are a bit open minded and willing to discuss then nobody needs to get heated

[dark glade]

i forgot I was speaking to kids, like look everyone wants the best for NJ but all I'm saying is this could of been done a lot better and smater then it has been done

[upbeat stream]

.

[wind monolith]

☠️

[hoary frost]

Youre losing against kids unc

[frozen bronze]

what should they have done ?

[hoary frost]

I forgot all little 7s were uncs and aunts with 60s thinking

[dark glade]

anyways we'll find out in april but i don't think it'll be good due to them doing this

[cosmic belfry]

How was this not the smart decision? This scenario guarantees the contract is terminated. Even if they're wrong, there is a breach of trust and no court will force them to continue.

[frozen bronze]

doing this instead of what?

[hoary frost]

U can relax now it isnt the 60s anymore

[upbeat stream]

BTS speaking on mental health really appealed to them because they all have serious issues

[frozen bronze]

you arent making it any better

[hoary frost]

Bts isnt the problem their fandom is

[upbeat stream]

That's what I said..

[hoary frost]

Oh 😹

[hoary frost]

Its rlly funny tho because rlly everyone who has this kind of thinking is a little 7

[upbeat stream]

Anyway enough yapping here. I'm heading to twitter to see their reaction

[frozen bronze]

that may be but if you actually want to explain something to someone you dont insult them

[tawdry vessel]

check his carrd site.. and you dont see nj there.. bro is pretending to be a fan.. pls just go back to twitter @dark glade 👋

[dark glade]

I do like nj but they aint like my ults

like I only claim groups my ult when i know a lot

but anyways ador did realise a staement the other day which some of you still dont understand

[wind monolith]

if u dont know alot then i dont think u can talk about this matter either

[tawdry vessel]

you are hybe stan stop pretending

[waxen musk]

Can't we just agree to disagree and move on lol.

[dark glade]

ADOR's position is that the exclusive contract (with New Jeans) is valid, and we are faithfully cooperating with the court proceedings. We regret that the members are attempting to pursue independent entertainment activities, such as soliciting new stage names, before receiving legal judgment, as this could be a serious breach of contract.

[waxen musk]

Remember a few days ago we all thought there was going to be news about the girls trying to be split up and everything. lol

[frozen bronze]

ADOR's position

[cosmic belfry]

Who cares about the statement loll

[jolly junco]

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-wow-omg-woah-amazed-gif-24350691

[cosmic belfry]

We all know HYBE isn't agreeing. They're maintaining their position.

[frozen bronze]

"could be a serious breach of contract", yes if a judge somehow rules that there has been no breach of trust by ador

[jolly junco]

i dont open twitter these days and find my peace, but twitter toxic people decided to come barge in here instead

[dark glade]

im just saying yea idc what ador think but anyways in the eye of the law and how the law works in korea this was not the best move

[frozen bronze]

what was the best move?

[red thorn]

This friend only view it on one side perception
And confidently view it as absolute

[wind monolith]

thank u discord lawyer

[dark glade]

probably deal with that court case first, it starts in april

[wind monolith]

after seeing his position my eyes have opened

[cosmic belfry]

You realize if they got tied up in courts, it could be 2 to 3 years? Doing nothing is death.

[frozen bronze]

but do you understand that the contract is not valid currently? unless a judge can rule that it is?

[dark glade]

fine think whatever u want and that i was just saying it was not the best move at all, but lets move on

[frozen bronze]

im just askign you but you seem to think im attacking you

[dark glade]

tbh it depends on a lot

[cosmic belfry]

How is it not the best move? They can continue their career during their prime. They can pay whatever nominal penalty if they're wrong.

[dark glade]

like NJ have said their contracts have ended but ador have not and ador keep putting out statement basically that they are still in contract

[tawdry vessel]

hybe are so desperate and want nj to comeback to them... cause they know they're losing

[dark glade]

so the court will have to look into it all

[frozen bronze]

and you understand that us at home know not even the half of what newjeans knows? if they are so confident that they can win a court case over this matter then they can currently freely act without contract

and those ador statements are the least of the least they can do as pr in this case, does not actually mean anything

[dark glade]

its not cheap thats the issue it costs a lot, and now them doing this could potentially blacklist them from the industy, its not good at all

[tardy smelt]

best move or not, fuck the status quo. i respect them so much for not letting the legal disputes define their musical career. artists out here putting out work for the love of the game.

[dark glade]

I do agree with this, but also they shouldnt be putting out new name when ador say they are still under them, it does not look good at all, specially in the eyes of the law

[cosmic belfry]

There is no chance they are going to pay anywhere close to the speculated amount and on top of that, if they have evidence to their claims, then could get paid instead.

[frozen bronze]

i dont think something like this would make a judge change their mind at all, compared to the entire actual situation

they underwent all the steps of their contract for a contract termination, if a judge finds that before the termination ador indeed breached their trust then any acts after the breach shouldnt influence the judge's decision

[jolly junco]

these people just want to brainwash bunnies into something that doesnt need our concern at all. NJZ read everything we said, and everything we do on the internet. Our worries will affect them in anyway, so please dont fall victim to whatever these HYBE stan said

just trust the girls, and everything will be fine

[dark glade]

Was just having a general convo but honestly you cant even have one here, im not a HYBE stan its just actually how law works YK

[jolly junco]

dani has said in an interview with the CNN, they will win these war with ADOR

and i trust they will

[frozen bronze]

yea it would help if people didnt jump eachother in here, from both sides

[dark glade]

but yea I agree brand, but none of us can really say anything as at the end of the day it will be delt with in court, just need to pray for a positive outcome

[frozen bronze]

yep 👍 sorry for the people that attacked you

[jolly junco]

“We believe we will win this battle against Hybe and Ador.”

[dark glade]

no worries I honestly was just having a general convo about it but some people don't even listen and just attack

[tawdry vessel]

done being nice to these hybe stans, give us a favor ratyms and go back to twitter pls, let us have our peace🙏

[waxen musk]

Because we've heard it all before a MILLION times and we've all just chosen to beleive in the girls tbh. Really as simple as that. ADOR and NJZ disagree with each other than there are people supporting the girls and their freedom vs supporting a company and believing they're in the right. Everyone's understanding on everything is basically not based on any expert opinions tbh. Can't wait for it to be all over.

[cinder narwhal]

true

[dark glade]

this is something i totally agree with

but also i feel it will drag on longer than april 😦

[waxen musk]

Oh yeah it will. No doubts about that.

[frozen bronze]

im fully expecting at the least another year

[waxen musk]

But they will do what they want. Nothing will stop them until they are forcibly stopped.

[dark glade]

tbh it could be a couple of years it depends ig

[dark glade]

yea i agree

[frozen bronze]

depends how petty the adults get

[waxen musk]

You don't have to agree with me. There aren't many 100% facts, except for what I'm stating. You're just agreeing with what we DO know.

[tawdry vessel]

to me if you're not with them, you're not a fan

simple as that

[dark glade]

to me that makes no sense, like you can be a fan and want the best for them.. I was just saying them doing this was probably not a good thing for them to do, but we will find out more in april when it goes to court.

[waxen musk]

Yeah it's fine to have doubts and everything but to completely state they're in the wrong with such certainty is going to get harsh reactions in here and call you a Hybe stan. We REALLY trust the girls and they would not do anything if they didn't think they could.

[frozen bronze]

i honestly dont understand how anyone can not want them to win regardless of if you like nj specifically

[waxen musk]

If things go bad they go bad but what's the point in worrying about it? I've spent basically 9 months worrying about it and moved on from worrying to just being excited for their future a while back.

It's really annoying how little results of anything have happened so far, but March and April will change that and we'll have a better idea of how things will go. So far we really haven't had anything substantial.

[dark glade]

frrr, but as its with one of koreas major music companys the battle is going to be massive and go on for a while I feel, thats just me saying how I think it is. I do want the best for them but as I have said them doing what they have just done maybe was not the best thing to do. But at the end of the day hopefully the court does not do anything about what they have just done so everyone can move on and finally have pece and the right rights

[zenith bane]

the members can simply not receive any payment or promotion fees or defer until the injunction verdict is heard, and Ador won't have a leg to stand on

[waxen musk]

I give up.

[red thorn]

People need to remember that, it's exclusive contract, technically nj the artist, employed under agency but in nature it's 'equal' position contract

[waxen musk]

Do we think brands like Calvin Klein will stick to the MHDHH thing that was leaked or go with NJZ now? Obviously their marketing materials that were leaked were not finalised so they can change. I just wonder if brands will use their new name or not.

[dark glade]

yea we need to wait for more substantial evidence and actual documents from the court, now its just a waiting game

[red thorn]

Thus why they aren't considered worker

[dark glade]

brands wont as they are branded under the name "NJ"

tbh brands could now decide to pull them completely over this it all depends

[fleet nebula]

or y'know, everyone wanting to work with them more now than ever

[upper solstice]

are we back..

[ornate vine]

imo its naive to see the legal situation as anything but extremely complex. both sides have competent legal counsel and JNZ would not be making the moves they are making without a clear and compelling plan of legal action and defense.

for ANYONE, bunny or anti alike, to claim they think they understand whats going on whatsoever without seeing the specific details of their contracts with ADOR are likely blinded with bias.

All I know is that for HYBE/Fraudor to keep filing suits and issuing statements and the NJZ camp to so confidently continue moving forward, is that both sides believe they have a case and they're the ones with the most information. everyone else is just an armchair lawyer.

[waxen musk]

"competent legal counsel" ... did you see the news the other day

[ornate vine]

as much i hate hybe and the people they associate with, they're still lawyers

[waxen musk]

Yeah they have influence and power. It's scary.

BUT... that isn't everything.

[copper jetty]

What's NJZ new company?

[ornate vine]

on top that, theyre the lawyers with access to every single detail regarding the case

[waxen musk]

We don't know yet.

[dark glade]

They don’t have a new company yet? I’m sure they are doing it solo atm ?

[copper jetty]

Might be. 🤷‍♀️

But I'm so happy cause we Gonna have new music soon!!

[tardy smelt]

fr. i've stopped overanalysing the legal aspect long ago. but i believe whatever they're doing now is the right way forward. in the beginning, everyone expected them to keep quiet or end up disbanding, but they've pulled out this third option no one expected and now there's a lot of hope for the future. sure it's risky, but it's so ballsy that i'm with them all the way.

[ornate vine]

the biggest thing that came to mind for me that caused me to stop worrying about the legal aspect as much is that they literally cannot be forced to go back to ADOR. the worst they'll have to face is penalty fees and the loss of the NewJeans name, both things that I think they'll be able to face just fine. It'd be sad if that was the case but they have a future ahead of them regardless imo.

[cerulean lake]

bro only thinks ador is in the right all the time

why does everyone always agrees with ador’s position and not the lawyers with the girls

[dark glade]

I honestly don’t and like if you actually read all my messages you would get that, I’m done with arguing it just did not look good, also it’s not even confirmed if they are under a new label like we are still completely in the dark

[tardy smelt]

mhm, if things go south, things go south. but the positive outcome outweighs that risk imo.

[cerulean lake]

idk unless an entertainment industry lawyer comes up and actually expressed actual concerns then i’ll be more moved

[dark glade]

As much as that sounds good we ain’t getting that online

[cerulean lake]

just a lot of these arguments were in this channel before and i’m fed up with this

[ornate vine]

and frankly if things do go south, its not like the courts are going to impose life long crippling penalty fees on them. it might be a lot of money, but nothing that they probably won't be able to earn in their future endeavors.

the biggest loss is going to be the loss of the NewJeans IP

[dark glade]

The worse outcome could be blacklisted but I’m praying that does not happen

[fleet nebula]

The biggest loss is the precedent it would set for kpop as a whole: treat your idols like they're not human, it's legal now

[cerulean lake]

even if nwjns loses their IP i feel like losing the contract argument to ador is even worse bc i feel like it just endorses the fact that ador did nothing wrong to them and we know that’s not true

[dark glade]

Just gotta think positive

[ornate vine]

i think if they were going to be blacklisted it would have happened already to be honest

but maybe certain companies in the industry are just waiting to see what the courts say before pulliing that trigger idk

[dark glade]

It’s down to the court for that, so we will find out more in April hopefully everything is sorted out fast and peace for everyone but I’m guessing it will go on for a while

[ornate vine]

actually yeah you're so real for this, i didnt even think about that

[dark glade]

When I say everyone I mean NJ and Bunnies

[fleet nebula]

Yeah it's so scary for the industry, that's why I need our girls to win 🙂

and I fight anyone and everyone who disagrees 😄

[ornate vine]

wait genuine question, why would it be up to the courts to decide if private companies choose to work with newjeans or not. i dont think a court decision can blacklist them and say "you cannot work in the entertainment industry" unless there was some agreement within their artist contracts saying they cant work in the industry after termination of the contract. which obv we dont know if that exists but i HOPE it doesnt...

[dark glade]

Apparently the is a thing that the court can do to blacklist them I have heard idk what it’s called though

ive looked it up

If HYBE or another company sued ADOR or NewJeans, a court could issue rulings that affect their promotions (e.g., freezing contracts, preventing new releases).

[fleet nebula]

That would only affect them in Korea though

[dark glade]

so its not tecq a blacklist, but tbh by preventing new music I class it as a blacklist

[fleet nebula]

and the backlash it would cause would be horrific for HYBE

[dark glade]

but thats not the actual name for it and yea only in korea

[ornate vine]

im just going to ride this year out and just see what happens.

i gotta get used to calling them NJZ lol and watch once i get used to it, they'll get their name back cuz thats just my luck
im happy they get to do what they're happy doing

[dark glade]

lol real, I honestly don’t think they would get the name trade mark though . But NJZ still works as your only adding a Z to the end anyways

[dark glade]

This is true but the sad thing is I don’t think hybe would care like just look at SM with RIIZE

Still not right either what SM did and that’s the sad thing about it

[fleet nebula]

Korea supports them more than anything, so blocking them in Korea would result in boyish cotts (server blocking me LOL) more than whats already going on

[fleet nebula]

that was international fans supporting the OT7 movement, Korea is the market they cater to so they don't care

[zinc geyser]

Does newjeanz had their own company official?

[red thorn]

No info

[cerulean lake]

so no info on who they signed to right

[stiff prairie]

what ot7 movement???

[frozen granite]

Wait guys

Jinjins left ?? I haven’t been up to speed with twitter

[steel depot]

bunnies lawyers got his ass

[frozen granite]

Oh we love to see it !!!

[jolly junco]

*x https://x.com/gangdodanida/status/1887721141193605282?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

[harsh dove]

@gangdodanida <t:1738902766:d>

[polar owl]

Wtf people here always get worried as hell. I am sure they love NJ and don't want to see them harmed. But for a change trust the girls. This is a moment for celebration - NJZ are not backing off, they are not stopping performing while the court case drags on... nothing could have been better.

[jolly junco]

Cnbc interviewed them

[stiff prairie]

Ppl are speculating he's on the first process of account deletion. It's not confirmed yet but they said they got a big hater on 3rd Feb and that was the day jinjins stopped moving so we hope it's him

[stiff prairie]

Wait what. They got on CNBC? Like when

Is there a link to full interview

[jolly junco]

Smart girls, they went with the foreign media instead of korean media

[frozen granite]

Omg they called us bunnies !! Our fandom name is still there!!

[heady gate]

Expecting HYBE mediaplay coming on Monday.

[steel depot]

well that's good since hybe can't copyright bunnies

[jolly junco]

These foreign media did not hesitate to ask the key question between HYBE and NJZ, thats what i like

[stiff prairie]

What're they Gon say? It's a breach of contract to do this etc? I'm already over it

[jolly junco]

The way dani smile like a sunshine while saying that HYBE keeps interfering with their job 😭 dani please dont ever lose that smile

[upbeat stream]

The fact that ador still hasn't responded yet means they were blindsided

Still expect something by the evening

[jolly junco]

LMAO i dont think they want to answer to foreign media, since they cant twist anything because they are not under hybe payrolls

[frozen granite]

I’m scared of what ador will say ngl

[upbeat stream]

Yeah CNN even asked them for comment but got no reply

[frozen granite]

I just hope nothing bad will happen

[short laurel]

Ppl really thinks idols should suffer under toxic company n wait for court to decide their freedom? Is that how democratic country works? When On earth a contract become so binding that company can do illegal shit n needs court to decide it's illegal? Since when is contract above human rights n laws?

[jolly junco]

Thats why i said these girls are smart, they went with the foreign media first. So HYBE cant really twist any truth from this redebut

[stiff prairie]

they didn't really say anything solid about lawsuits, brands etc even tho the questions were pretty much direct. i like this ngl. keep em guessing and keep us anticipated

[copper jetty]

ok is it probably safe to say, even though they haven't said it yet, that their agency (if they have one) might be international for them to be interviewed by cnn and cnbc? I wonder though...

[cinder narwhal]

safe guess is bana

https://x.com/haerin1st/status/1887688885083250920

✿ (@haerin1st) on X

BANA’s website it’s under maintenance 👀

X · Feb 7, 2025, 2:24 AM

[jolly junco]

[red thorn]

Dang
The company gonna need more infrastructure if true

[tardy smelt]

it’s been under maintenance for a long time

i know because i was curious and checked out their website a few months back when i wanted to learn more about 250 and FRNK

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/haerin1st/status/1887687958712525065

[harsh dove]

@haerin1st <t:1738894855:d>

Kim Donghyeon from BANA. He is FRNK (NEWJEANS PRODUCER)'s duo partner in XXX. He contributed in NewJeans songs like Super Shy and Cool With You.

Kim Donghyeon: I heard that BANA is debuting a new girl group. Do you know anything about it? You do know something, right?

[stiff prairie]

i'm like 90% sure it's BANA they're going to

[naive hound]

Can someone give us context about that company

[upbeat stream]

I've heard that BANA doesn't have trainees so it'll have to be an existing gg if they are indeed debuting one

[red thorn]

I can't be sure
But it's supernatural if true

[naive hound]

BANA (바나) (Beasts And Natives Alike) is a South Korean hip-hop label founded in 2014. It was founded by former SM Entertainment A&R representative Kim Ki-hyun.

[stiff prairie]

njz extensively used their ppl like frnk and 250 to produce music up until now. BANA is bigger than just the two of them tho. and they're not really an "idol agency" per say but are related to anything music.

[naive hound]

I see, do they have enough resources to manage a top group like njz

[stiff prairie]

securing funds has been on us for a long time hence all the lil promos like iphone during eta or omg and coke(sadly) in how sweet etc. i'm sure it'll be managed somehow

[copper jetty]

true... that's how it has always been for NJZ and they have always pulled through so i'm putting my faith in their team

[frozen granite]

Would is be safe to assume that njz is working with bana ??

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/TokkiLoops/status/1887678195455172829

[harsh dove]

@TokkiLoops <t:1738892527:d>

Vogue Singapore Producer

“We are so back ✨”

#Haerin #해린 #NJZ

[stiff prairie]

also existing brands are there so no need to worry that much i think

[midnight zodiac]

and i remember seeing hybe/ador was actually taking their profits and putting into other companies. so the funds should be fine

[naive hound]

Good part is that they already had the promotions needed for people to know them and all this process it's definitely helping on it so even if their new company is not as powerful just securing good music it's probably good enough

[short laurel]

In the end it'll be music that makes or breaks them.

[midnight zodiac]

"we believe in music"

[naive hound]

I'm guessing whatever they release next it's going to get massive love from people all around the world so if they can continue with their brand signature in terms of concept and sound it will be fine

[warm shard]

What's going on? Comeback?

[midnight zodiac]

do you think it'll still get massive love if it's not good?

[midnight zodiac]

new group name and performance coming in march with new music

[naive hound]

If they are working with bana and same team as some previous songs I don't think there's much to worry about

[midnight zodiac]

true

[frozen granite]

Is it safe to assume they are ?

[naive hound]

Afaik nothing it's confirmed. Just rumours.
We will need to wait for official announcements even though everyone is mentioning bana so far

[split bramble]

what probably happened was BANA agreed to continue making songs for the girls and some misconstrued it as him debuting a new gg

• new name
• new song drop date
• redebut date
• confirms plans to evolve from initial concept

they've mapped out the near future and came out all guns blazing

[copper jetty]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFwsQ7_vAYy/?igsh=cjdkNjFpMTYzdGt5

[stiff prairie]

there's gotta be full vids of these out there right?

[red thorn]

The cnn journalist said they're working on vertical video of the interview,
Wonder if they mean is this only snippet kek

[upbeat stream]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/112/0003745665

[stiff prairie]

They really think NJ only has the TikTok generation on their side don't they

[upbeat stream]

Well ador responded. Took their time lol

Also why did it not embed?

[stiff prairie]

Did anyone tl it yet?

[upbeat stream]

Idk saw on reddit

Weakest response possible lmao

[stiff prairie]

Yeah it's like they just had to put something out there so they did

If they wanna protect newjeans ip value so much just hand over the ip ig ?

[jolly junco]

We would also like to reiterate that we are ready to meet with New Jeans members or legal representatives at any time to resolve any misunderstandings and discuss New Jeans’ future plans.

what would it take for ador to realized that NJZ doesnt want to comeback to that label even if ador going to give them the whole world?

[acoustic marsh]

Wait where can i find the full statement from ador?

[cerulean lake]

^^

tried to find on twt but i don’t see any accs posting it rn

[tardy smelt]

Baron linked the article

[cerulean lake]

oh okok i see i usually wait for twt accs to talk abt it didn’t notice

[tardy smelt]

just use chrome to google translate it

[acoustic marsh]

Ok nice! Thanks

[cerulean lake]

they try to help with misunderstandings now but not before 😂

[jolly junco]

but there is NO misunderstandings, they keep saying it so the public will think that ADOR is the victim in these case

[short laurel]

og ador is victim. odor however ...

[acoustic marsh]

Ador needs to stfu LMAOO

It’s over alrdy go cry in the corner like a desperate ex

[short laurel]

sad such a good label name wasted on hybe's puppet

[jolly junco]

[red thorn]

Body snatcher

[cinder narwhal]

do yall think ador had an idea what was gonna happen today?

[tardy smelt]

i guess they found out the same time as us

or when cnn contacted them

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/marieclairekr/status/1887753921772540215

[harsh dove]

@marieclairekr <t:1738910582:d>

#뉴진스 에서 #NJZ 로! 새로운 시작을 앞둔 이들의 첫 무대는?
👉https://www.marieclairekorea.com/celebrity/2025/02/njz/

[stiff prairie]

brands on board!!

[red thorn]

It seemed ador didn't know what hit them,
But probably they don't rule out this kind possiblity either

[jolly junco]

Hyein said they gonna have agents soon

I guess that means they actually have made a deal with an agent but they will announce it soon

[stiff prairie]

I don't see any other agency besides bana with them

[jolly junco]

They might surprise you

Can they just please spill it already? I’m dying over here to know which agency

[steel depot]

Same

Is it gonna be a self established or an already established company

[tardy smelt]

they really had to lose everything last year to come back better than ever with the family back together (presumably)

this is easily the best season of this drama, story arc goes crazy

[jolly junco]

haerin using paolina russo clothes makes me think the OG NJ team are still working with them now

[stiff prairie]

We knew this from the day they posted those resignation memes

[split bramble]

they're global artists, expect them to have multiple agents/managements that look after their interests in different regions of the world

[tardy smelt]

this is the rainbow on the other side hanni was talking about

[stiff prairie]

Could be since CNBC or CNN korea is not something I expected them to go on instead of kbs cbs etc

[split bramble]

yup, after countless slander articles why give kmedia exclusives, give it to international news orgs

they couldnt do more for the western market cause hybe been holding them back until now, well not anymore

[stiff prairie]

Cbs kbs are pretty much njz favoring but yeah it's harder for hybe to control narrative coming out from CNBC or CNN kr instead of those

[fierce cloak]

also bana recruited Krystal last year too, and rumor to work on her solo
MHJ is very close with bana so i can see how everything unfold
however mhj should be the ceo around NJZ, which not just creative director but also management and finance as well, so i wonder how they will work this out

[red thorn]

Sub label
True sub label

[stable escarp]

This is what i think but theyll js go back to how they used to operate. Mhj has enough influence with NJZ to create a label and source out BANA for music

[fierce cloak]

i would prefer if mhj just establish her own company from beginning, but i guess funding is a struggle for her...

[cinder narwhal]

BANADOR

does anyone remember the list of names for the agency/gg that the shaman gave mhj

or was it mhj consulted to the shaman

[fierce cloak]

like, the members are fairly wealthy now, they can totally chime in to fund a company on their own, a true start up, and if mhj win her stock payment she can get good money too
i hope if they sign with bana it's for temporary short period through these lawsue phase, and later will have full independent

[short laurel]

startup takes way lot more money than what members and their family has. they'll need sponsors

but they not have to spend on promotion as much since they already established group so they save on that front.

[fierce cloak]

there are bootstrap way to go around, especially mhj is very effecient with production cost and get sponsors from advertisers
with her skills and volunteer of loyal staffs, even cheap production can still achieve great outcome, they can also secure some funding from pre-order albums too, to they will get profits and payment later

and yes they are already established and popular so money is actually less of the constrain

[jolly junco]

are you guys forgetting something? they have countless of lawsuit coming to them, and all of that lawsuit needs money.......

[short laurel]

yea but still not going to be easy. there's also many things to handle that majority never c or know about. it'll be alot of messing up and learning for both NJZ and MHJ as well. this is IF they are making a startup.

[stable escarp]

Didnt mhj lose her house? 😭

[short laurel]

and lawsuits going ot take a long time.

[cerulean lake]

i honestly prefer they sign with a label they trust instead of starting their own bc it’s hard to start one by yourself without having anyone that has had experience with these types of industries

[fierce cloak]

yeah that's the biggest challenge for mhj
but for njz members i believe they can afford it

[short laurel]

no she didn't lose he home just court blocked her from selling it for money.

[cerulean lake]

i was hoping they sign w a label that has some power so hybe can’t try to fight back as much

[fierce cloak]

mhj is not a newbie lol, she started ador pretty much from scratch, mostly use hybe money but the creative and management is her team 🤔

[short laurel]

other labels with power aren't any better unfortunately.

[fierce cloak]

yeah better avoid big company, it will repeat the same power conflict issue like hybe
going to smaller agency where they have great voice and control, especially built on genuine trust is better

so if mhj doesnt establish her own label, and they go to bana instead, either for a short period of time, or as sub label, it's still a good option

[short laurel]

she still used alot of hybe's established system. ador had to pay premium compared to other sublabels though. if she starting from scratch without similar support, there's going to be alot of new things she'll have to learn. her experiece with ador will help for sure though.

[cerulean lake]

yeah true but there are also the business aspects that come to managing a whole company by yourselves

plus she’s worked in big companies before using their system but never like building up her own company from scratch

plus this is not to downsize her work but managing one is different than leading one

[fierce cloak]

yeah agree that start up will slow down a lot, and this seems they wanna redebut as fast as possible
so i wouldnt be surprise if they sign short contract for 2 years or something, so they can stablelise their career, fight the lawsue, regain newjeans IP before fully independent

[cerulean lake]

man atp maybe we’ll get used to NJZ before they even start the legal fight for their name again 😭

[fierce cloak]

ngl choosing NJZ as new name is sooo genius

[short laurel]

atleast i hope they are making IP for NJZ their own so whoever they signing with they get to keep ownership of NJZ instead of the new company.

[cerulean lake]

yeah i actually like how it’s not too different from their own name

i just want their songs to go back to them or maybe they can do smth like taylor swift

[short laurel]

so how are u goign ot say NJZ. i think it's like N-Jeez

[fierce cloak]

their songs are largely produced by bana so i guess they have competitive edge here

do they have any songs that not created by bana, and ador hold 100% of it?

[tardy smelt]

it's pronounced the way the letters are (Z with US pronunciation)

[jolly junco]

en jay zee

[short laurel]

Jay zee...