NJZ Updates and Discussion

[half knot]

I don't think it has any brand value without newjeans and mhj at this point, or any of the creatives and composers and producers that have decided to side with nj over ador

[stiff prairie]

well it's hybe brand value not necessarily ador. and armys gonna token stan anything coming out of hybe esp now

[copper jetty]

~t https://x.com/Jeff__Benjamin/status/1874232362265162214?t=YFSFRDrGhQOYoWhtdDD0xQ&s=19

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241231 Jeff__Benjamin Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Jeff__Benjamin/status/1874232362265162214
🧵 A goal of mine moving forward is to report the actual conversations around #Kpop and for us not be swayed by "media play" and outside forces

To start, I'm ending 2024 looking at the major year-end critics lists with K-pop to see who was most acclaimed

Let's get into it!

[copper jetty]

Lmao did Jeff just fire a shot at Hybe???

Ever since hybe used his name for media play he's been going off at them

[red thorn]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1874321919442641313

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

250101 Kim Nayeon (OG ADOR Art Director) Instagram story

2024 was a special year when I finally got to work on personal projects I had promised myself to do for years but never managed to start. It was a year of meeting people I would never have crossed paths with, people I

Twitter · Jan 1, 2025, 5:09 AM

Oh since when she unfollowing mhj 🤔

[steep torrent]

she never followed her

[tawdry vessel]

mhj doesn't follow jeanz but she's so quick with the likes

[red thorn]

Huh really, I assumed she auto-follow since she's very close associate, she follows her colleagues
On related note, Nayon Kim, a designer that one of the strong nj soldier and stated that mhj is her 'aunt' is unfollowing jeanz and mhj

[stiff prairie]

unfollowing jeanz and mhj as in she won't work w them anymore or unfollowing on insta

[tiny peak]

please don't spread misinformation

[red thorn]

Just IG, for Nayon Kim, don't think she ever worked with nj, she's just close with mhj, and for this I'm pretty sure she followed mhj and jeanz because she's a bunnies too
Nayeon Kim the visual director, I can't be sure

[stiff prairie]

your linked twt says og ador art director so she defo worked for mhj/nj

she was probably one of those that hybe removed in order to get rid of mhj as ceo

[red thorn]

Yeah that's Nayeon Kim from Ador, she's in charge of media visual
And there's Nayon Kim, a different person
Both are designers

[red thorn]

I believe this is Yemin Kim, one of the og ador executives, a creative director too

[stiff prairie]

Oh mb two diff ppl. In any case not following/unfollowing isn't that big of an issue imo(unless it is but I really don't see why any bad blood would arise now after all these months)

[short laurel]

u guys know public figures can hide who they following.

i've seen multiple artists liking n commenting on each other posts but nvr being on each other follower list

[stiff prairie]

I never knew. Verified accounts might have diff privileges

[stiff prairie]

I think those are just them stalking each other without following lol

[red thorn]

imo sns following/unfollowing kinda affecting for 'public figures' (tho I've seen the cases of follow/unfollow between them just matter trivial or reasonable issue not really bad blood), professionals, for brands can be mean of marketing strat.

[short laurel]

yup for years.

anyways i consider kpop as genre with no integrity. starship and hybe's actions reinforced this believe alot.

[jolly junco]

I havent opened twitter since the holidays, did anything important come up?

[short laurel]

NJ hanteo chart number increase. is the only important event related to NJ i heard so far.

[jolly junco]

Oh okay, so no more schedule with Fraudor after january 4th right? Thats the last one

[short laurel]

we don't really know. remember they plan things months in advance. it's only been a month since nj terminated the contract

[hoary frost]

Whats lesbotron 3000? Why is Minii getting called that?

[tardy smelt]

as i understand it, it’s just a playful way of saying she attracts girls

[hoary frost]

Oh

I thought it was an insult or something

[tardy smelt]

lol nah

[bronze jetty]

nah it’s a joke haha

[faint oyster]

All their schedules seem to have been completed. What will happen next?

[sly python]

we sit & wait

[gentle badger]

[sly python]

side note: cant wait for the world tour this year

[warm shard]

isn't there a schedule on 6th or 7th?

[flint stone]

is there?

[hushed whale]

[short laurel]

Again. We don't know if their schedule with odor is done or not. Don't assume yet.

Idols have alot of behind the scenes schedules that become public months later.

[upbeat stream]

I would expect at least two more Light Jeans: KGMA and Calvin Klein

maybe some magazine shoots too

We are either done with Jeans' Zine or there's one more episode. I doubt they filmed too much since they were so busy

[warm shard]

I thought there was something? Was it cancelled? Some award show
edit: looked it up seems like it was cancelled okay

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https://x.com/bellibly/status/1874971684450844820?s=46
yeah this is pretty weird

bells (@bellibly) on X

k last tweet abt this loser but bro… he deleted the footage on his vlog of him GOING BACKSTAGE to their DRESSING ROOM and knocking on their door.. so he knew that was weird? even if the girls weren’t there that’s mad weird awe hell no

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 12:10 AM

his twt community is gone now lol

[frozen bronze]

wait who?

[wind monolith]

Jason

[frozen bronze]

god damn it

he keeps saying hes just not gonna say anything about nj anymore and then farms it in the same stream

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*x https://x.com/aureli__24/status/1874982613666173283?s=46
apparent deleted clip?

[harsh dove]

@Aureli__24 <t:1735865665:d>

[steep torrent]

how did he even get back there? what was he expecting? 😭

[waxen musk]

lol deleting something just brings more attention to it

I do wonder how many more times he's gonna try this. He's got so much access that "normal" people don't have.

[fathom canopy]

Jay Park gave him backstage passes

[frozen bronze]

hes farming it as we speak on stream

[waxen musk]

I think the farming will work. People will probably watch the video just to check it based on this. He's getting what he wants.

[frozen bronze]

ive actually been following both jason and nj for years but all this shit made me dislike him a bit

[steep torrent]

this confirmed?

[mental lynx]

not this guy again 😳

[fathom canopy]

Timestamp: https://youtu.be/s36iJMtuuos?si=Bc6JBUjI6J95XQuC&t=1180

[waxen musk]

Like I said. Now we're gonna get people clicking the video embedded above.

[tardy smelt]

yeah, i don't like this shit at all. especially since there's been way too many issues regarding the girls' privacy and safety.

[stable escarp]

Ok even for his content that is weird as. You would think he would contact their manager and not js straight up sneak behind stage to surprise greet them

[steep torrent]

ah no wonder.. last I heard he wasn't going bc you can't buy a resale but suddenly he had a ticket lol

[jade jolt]

Hes wierd af

With all the things he said about nj before and now this he just wants attention this gonna end soon i don t like that People associate him with nj

[steep torrent]

why did jay park even get him those passes? its not like he was performing there either, that's weird

[hushed whale]

we’re free from him ig

[stable escarp]

I hope in the future he keeps his interactions with Jeanz virtually rather than physically. Like if he wants to support them he can but mixing them into his typa content that induces viral marketing is just bad for NJ

[stable escarp]

Maybe Jay Park wants to do something more in the streaming side cos he even visited the faze house during his trip to L.A and what not

[jade jolt]

The fact that People still defend him is crazy

Even tokkis not only his fans

[waxen musk]

How do people defend him? And how does he defend himself? I haven't heard.

[stable escarp]

Its weird cos his own community is 'cancelling' him in a way 💀

[waxen musk]

Deleting it is admission of guilt, no?

[stable escarp]

He and the defenders use time as their defence

[steep torrent]

seeing a tokki say he just happened to pass by backstage.. but thats the entire reason he wanted a backstage pass?? there's no coincidence in that lol

[waxen musk]

Literally pacing back and forth in front of the door and pulling out his camera is just "happening to pass by backstage"??????

[jade jolt]

This is sasaeng behaviour we should leave him and his comunity in 2024 im tired of all the things he is doing

[vale dagger]

Sorry but who's jay park?

[waxen musk]

There was enough evidence for me to stop trusting this guy and thinking he was respectful a while ago, but now this is a cherry on top. I hope we can forget about him in the future but I don't see this being the last time.

[tardy smelt]

oh i'm old

[tardy smelt]

artist

[vale dagger]

Ah okay

[steep torrent]

another kpop idol that he collabed with

[jade jolt]

Hes a soloist also a controversial one

[vale dagger]

Sorry sorry i'm clueless about other kpop idol

[jade jolt]

Don t worry

[hushed whale]

you little demon in my storyline, dont knock on my door

[steep torrent]

ok so apparently he saw was "coincidentally" walking by and saw them preparing before their performance and said hanni looked surprised/weirded out seeing him there. after they finished performing he went backstage again to their changing room to knock and pulled out his camera(??) to try to get some footage but they never came out. like what?? 😭

[shut kelp]

why are we still talking about him i thought WE (tokkis) are ignoring him?

[waxen musk]

Some people were still not convinced of him being weird so hopefully after this we can all be on the same page and move on.

[shut kelp]

everyone says lets move on but they keep bringing him up in hate threads and tweeting his videos

[waxen musk]

I mean are we supposed to ignore this new instance of him being very weird? What do you expect.

[shut kelp]

yes

yall bringing him up is just gonna fuel his fan base to troll more

[tardy smelt]

it's one thing to ignore if he's just talking about them to milk content, it's another to see him invade their privacy and not talk about it at all

he needs to be called out for crossing this line

[shut kelp]

we have 3 other fandoms to worry about and theyre doing more dmg than w.e hes doing

[tardy smelt]

mate, i'd argue someone physically invading their privacy is more of an issue than people talking shit online

[shut kelp]

hes invading their privacy?

[tardy smelt]

you don't consider it a privacy issue if the dude didn't give them a heads up through their manager or anything and showed up to their door backstage?

[shut kelp]

oh brother

yall got it👍

[tardy smelt]

we'll agree to disagree then

[waxen musk]

I just watched his video cos I couldn't help myself and I think it makes him seem even weirder even with the part of the video that was deleted. Plus it seemed like he wasn't even there to watch the performance with him being backstage and not being able to see them properly and whipping out his camera to talk about how he's waiting to say hi to them.

[tardy smelt]

it's not hard to be a normal fan man

[hoary frost]

lol he just a fan with more access lol when like im a fan of both but painting him as a weirdo is insane like if u dont like him just ignore i dont think he got bad intentions

[waxen musk]

I think everything else he's done before is whatever or he said stuff a long time ago and changed his mind, but simply put: I think him trying to meet them like this is too far and I don't know how people defend it.

[shut kelp]

if yall had access backstage lets not act and yall wouldn't try to meet them at least

[waxen musk]

It was his only plan. It's what he went all the way to Japan to do. That was his purpose and intention. Watching the video only confirms this 100x more.

[shut kelp]

jtokkis were taking pics of them in public while shopping

[tardy smelt]

no. i wouldn't.

[waxen musk]

Yeah and that's weird too. Both things are weird. lol

[tardy smelt]

they're weird too.

[stable escarp]

Ones in public another is backstage. Big difference

[shut kelp]

lets say if that was talytokki that was able to go backstage and meet them would that change anything?

[tiny peak]

no. it's weird

[tardy smelt]

no. it'd be weird if she pulled up unannounced as well

[hoary frost]

i dont think its too far lol they met and talk once that means they got a lil bit of friendship going its not that weird to say hi backstage

[waxen musk]

I see people are just not gonna agree on some things.

[shut kelp]

didnt he say they greeted each other before performing?

[hoary frost]

like if someone bigger like ariana pulled up unannounced to say hi i bet yall be cheering

[waxen musk]

He said Hanni was weirded out and surprised to see him.

[steep torrent]

are changing rooms even part of backstage tho??

[shut kelp]

thats different

[tiny peak]

artist to artist is completely different and even in that case they'd probably coordinate through managers

[shut kelp]

honestly we're not getting anywhere lets just move on

[tardy smelt]

i get that. i know he didn't have any bad intentions as well. but you gotta understand Hanni in particular has had issues with stalking and a recent scare at the airport. you don't do this shit (not you you, speaking in general). imagine if it was someone else with bad intentions. there's some lines you don't cross.

[cobalt zodiac]

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[shut kelp]

i mean obvs they would have to go thru jeon wick before anything 😂

they are HEAVILY guarded by their security

[tardy smelt]

tbf Jeon Wick and their security failed at the airport. they're not infallible. imagine if that fan ran up to them with a knife.

[stable escarp]

He probably had a pass of some sort seeing as how Jay Park got him int here

[hoary frost]

lol im just saying yall painting him as a stalker like all he is a fan with more access like hanni would be scared seeing someone she already knew

[shut kelp]

now were imagining things i cant

[cobalt zodiac]

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[tardy smelt]

okay. let's not imagine bad scenarios and let things go until something does happen.

[stable escarp]

I mean he did say in the video she was weirded out and confused so ig theres that

[shut kelp]

i mean u said it i didnt even think about that

[tardy smelt]

i'm being sarcastic

[waxen musk]

He was going there to meet them again, give them gifts and even joked around about getting their KakaoTalk. He does this all while making a whole video out of it and talking about it for weeks beforehand. He does it all the while whipping out his camera hoping to say hi to them right before the stage. He does it all the while whipping out his camera pacing back and forth in front of their private backstage room. Those are the facts. Up to you how you perceive it.

[stable escarp]

KakaoTalk?? Deadass?!?

[waxen musk]

He was joking about it with Ludwig beforehand.

[tiny peak]

it's also highly inconsiderate to say and do those things without clearing it with them first, at the end of they day they are idols and have an image to maintain.

[waxen musk]

The whole video is about him preparing to meet them again. Getting dressed up. Getting them gifts. Talking to his streamer friends to talk about meeting them. Talking about in the taxi about how nervous he is to meet them again.

Do I think he's a danger to them? No.
Do I think the girls would be really bothered by seeing him again? No, they'll be polite as ever.
I still find the whole thing and making content out of it just weird though. Bad taste more than anything. I don't see it as "harmful" or anything.

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/Aureli__24/status/1875000081369460941

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250103 Aureli__24 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Aureli__24/status/1875000081369460941
just a reminder that this happened AFTER he already knew Hanni was weirded out by seeing him backstage

[hoary frost]

lol cuz its a video abt him meeting or wanting to meet them again he just said on stream that jay park invited him to japan to do some content but jay park cancelled bcuz of the plane incident yall act like his content is all about them and painting him as weirdo stalker

[tardy smelt]

yeah, at the end of the day, it wasn't harmful and i don't even have a problem if he wanted to meet them backstage either. it's just he should've gone about it in a different way.

[cobalt zodiac]

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[hoary frost]

like i dont have a problem if ppl dont like him its just weird that ppl painting him as a weirdo and sending hate to him

[shut kelp]

yes lets move on already

[cobalt zodiac]

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[tiny peak]

just some background, he became successful as a streamer by "rizzing" other girl streamers and making them feel uncomfortable (borderline harassment). I'm okay if he plays the role of a dedicated fan, but he absolutely should not feel too comfortable or casual around NJ. they are THE newjeans, not ordinary streamers to farm for content

[tawdry vessel]

it's weird as fuvk, what a creep

[hoary frost]

lol they both humans if u putting a celebrity on a pedestal you have a problem

[cobalt zodiac]

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[tiny peak]

bro celebritys by definition are on a pedestal. you're naive to think perception doesn't matter

[hoary frost]

im just saying so only chosen ppl cant meet them now?

[waxen musk]

I'm more interested in the discussion where there are people who don't find this weird than the actual thing that happened ngl

[cobalt zodiac]

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[hoary frost]

lol okay

[cobalt zodiac]

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[tardy smelt]

i'm more concerned about other fans thinking it's normal to approach them like this, because fan behaviour is just out of control these days. i don't want some bs to eventually happen because fans are influenced by this behaviour. just be normal.

[tawdry vessel]

you're also a creep if you think this is normal 🤮

[cobalt zodiac]

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[hoary frost]

this is why idols dont interact that much with ppl mind u jason is close with artists that the girls admire like grent perez and d4vd who are you to say that he is not worthy to meet them

[waxen musk]

If he had backstage access for any other reason than meeting them, I'd be more ok with it. If he wasn't there to make content out of it, I'd more more ok with it. The simple fact is he was there for no reason other than to meet them and make content out of it. That is literally it.

[cobalt zodiac]

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[shut kelp]

he got to watch them live for the last time not just to only meet them

[waxen musk]

He could barely see them backstage as he says in the video with his camera out talking about how he hopes to meet them right then and there.

[cobalt zodiac]

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[waxen musk]

He's not close with them.

[cobalt zodiac]

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[tardy smelt]

straight up.

[cobalt zodiac]

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[shut kelp]

he couldn't even record the stage 😂

[tawdry vessel]

he only met them once... they're not close friends. He's just a fan. A creep stalker fan.

[hoary frost]

lol this is what yall mad abt hybe stans abt out of context sht he decided to go to countdown japan bcuz it was said before that it might be their last performance thats why he push for it since he never saw them perform live and since they already linked up once he just tried to do it again

[waxen musk]

hybe stans?

[cobalt zodiac]

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[waxen musk]

He has backstage access. Wasn't there without permission.
(reply to above before above edited message)

[hoary frost]

and why you think is that?

[shut kelp]

he has access backstage they dont just let anyone in 😂

[hoary frost]

But he had permission no? From Jay Park? The weird thing is someone allegedly said he knocked on their door expecting them to open

[cobalt zodiac]

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[shut kelp]

ya lil bro he had access backstage

[cobalt zodiac]

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[tiny peak]

i'm also curious about the terms of these "backstage passes", are you really allowed to record video and take pictures at will? isn't that inappropriate without permission of the artists and people working back there?

[stable escarp]

No reservation or nuthin. Just whats up doc 😭

[waxen musk]

He took advantage of his connections and the backstage access to meet them otherwise he would never have the chance. And he made content out of it.

[hoary frost]

Forreal, thats the weird thing

[stable escarp]

100% that shit would not be allowed especially in JAPAN BRO

[shut kelp]

he said it littlest bro jay park got him the passes 😂

[vale dagger]

Sorry, but don't you need permission from the artist's manager to meet them in person?

[cobalt zodiac]

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[hoary frost]

Yeah, thats why its weird that he just came knocking on their door

[cobalt zodiac]

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[shut kelp]

he got invited by jay park lil gerber 😂

[waxen musk]

Speaking of permission to film, there's a whole section about the BAPE store where they stop him from filming only to then turn on the camera back on a minute later and film. But that's regular streamer shit tbh.

[hoary frost]

ppl think he just a nobody bro bout to be playing in wembley stadium and about to be on a netflix series yall just dont like him bcuz yall think he is leeching

[tardy smelt]

so like y'all don't give a fuck about how they've been put in uncomfortable situations by fans lately or what

[cobalt zodiac]

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[stable escarp]

I dont think you get the point tbh

[hoary frost]

nah im just responding to someone calling him a nugu

[cobalt zodiac]

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[red thorn]

I think it's only Right if he did it just like his first meeting with them, there was appointment beforehand, moreover he shoots content
There should be procedure

[stable escarp]

ah

[shut kelp]

the fact u mention speed when he said something weird about hyein is crazy

[tardy smelt]

yeah, this would've been okay

[cobalt zodiac]

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[hoary frost]

Even if Jason had permission and was invited by Jay Park
He wasnt invited by the girls or their manager
He just had no right to be knocking on their door and filiming allat

[shut kelp]

the a & r?

[cobalt zodiac]

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[hoary frost]

i dont think hell just shove a camera on their faces if someone opened that door hell prolly politely ask if he can film

But we don’t know what happened, and Jason isnt worth talking abt so lets skip this topic and let it pass

[shut kelp]

because speed is weird why is that lowkey better than when jason met newjeans?

[cobalt zodiac]

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[waxen musk]

I'm less interested in talking about him and more interested in how people don't think the situation... no matter who does it... is weird as hell.

[cobalt zodiac]

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[ashen charm]

It's just weird becuase why would you go meet them knowing what happened in korea recently kinda disrespectful imo

[cobalt zodiac]

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[tardy smelt]

yeah topic's done. people in here refusing to see the point. caring more about seeing that interaction than respect.

[waxen musk]

Only so many times I can repeat my points lol.

[hoary frost]

lol im just saying ive been following him since faze hes known to be the most kind and polite in faze thats why he getting all these collabs but yall making conclusions abt him since yall dont want him around newjeans

[waxen musk]

Exactly.

[cobalt zodiac]

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[shut kelp]

because he didnt get to meet them backstage maybe if he did and was denied maybe ill feel a way

[hoary frost]

knockin is asking for permission lol

[waxen musk]

He didn't knock.

[shut kelp]

they werent even there tho 😂

[cobalt zodiac]

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[cobalt zodiac]

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[tawdry vessel]

but jay park gave him a pass..

bunch of weirdos defending a creep stalker 😒

[ashen charm]

If they were he'd ask for a picture which I'd know they would deny

[cobalt zodiac]

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[vale dagger]

Dont you need their manager permission to get permission to meet them in person to?

[hoary frost]

So many oeople saying so many different things so lowk until the girls say sum themselves

[ashen charm]

Since the airport incident I believe they upped all security

[tiny peak]

yes it's extremely rude to intrude in their private space while live recording, without any heads up

[cobalt zodiac]

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[waxen musk]

What's happening in February?

[stable escarp]

Their changing room of all things as well

[cobalt zodiac]

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[waxen musk]

Countdown Japan broadcast on 24th Feb? Is that what you meant?

[hoary frost]

yea thats what hes trying to do yall think hell just go to their room and start filming since he got access hes trying to talk to them again at backstage its not so different from a fan waiting outside a venue to say hi he just got more access

[cobalt zodiac]

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[waxen musk]

I don't know how to get it through yall thick skulls that he went there for the SOLE PURPOSE to meet them again (without them knowing or planning to meet him) and HE DID IT TO MAKE A WHOLE VIDEO.
I said it twice before now.

[ashen charm]

Yeah but just becuase he meet them once doesn't mean go meet them everytime

[hoary frost]

and whats wrong with it?

[cobalt zodiac]

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[shut kelp]

now i understand what the older mods were talking about the shit in here ya lets move on 😂

[steep torrent]

not even like wait around the backstage lounge or whatever but waiting at the door of their changing room

still trying to understand how that's part of a backstage pass

[waxen musk]

i cant get through to you i give up

[stable escarp]

I can just imagine him blending in and saying "ye nice work guys keep it up" to the other staff

[tawdry vessel]

You're a creep if you think this is normal. Im blocking you if you defend that loser. Brotha eww

[steep torrent]

theres not recording alowed at the stage, you'd assume its the same if not even more enforced backstage?

[waxen musk]

Speaking of backstage access, he had a horrible view and could barely see the performance, but what would have stopped him from going into the audience to actually properly withness the performance? No instead like IN THE VIDEO he says he was there to hang around backstage for the SOLE PURPOSE of meeting them AND MAKING CONTENT OUT OF IT. (Is this the 4th time I've said this now?)

[hoary frost]

is he putting them in harms way? like i said he is a content creator some of his content is abt them and going to a concert for a chance to meet them again ofc he would vlog it he didnt even try to stream it live

[stable escarp]

Japan as well. Hes lucky he didnt get his shit cracked down for filming w/o permission (unless he did)

[cobalt zodiac]

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[shut kelp]

nico how old are u?

[cobalt zodiac]

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[hoary frost]

yall just calling anybody who dont share your opinion creeps now

[waxen musk]

I previously specifically said he isn't putting them in harms way. Why bother bringing that up. I don't get how you're so ok with it like any content creator can just do what they want for content and views just because that's expected and what content creators do.

[hoary frost]

lol cuz its fun if he does content with them itll prolly wholesome im just saying how is it weird for him to try?

[ashen charm]

There's nothing wrong with meeting newjeans but there's a time and a place for everything...

[shut kelp]

look at dms

[waxen musk]

Ok so Jerry says this whole situation is wholesome. I actually annoyed now.

[vale dagger]

Lets move on guys

[cobalt zodiac]

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[ashen charm]

Newjeans are mourning the last thing they want is a scandal with jason of them being problematic...

[shut kelp]

finally can we move on?

[hoary frost]

lol id say if they did content together not this one lol why u changing the narrative?

[shut kelp]

yall keep bringing it up lets what yall said keep him in 2024 ig

[cobalt zodiac]

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[shut kelp]

??????????? i said lets move on earlier but yall keep mentioning him

[cobalt zodiac]

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[harsh dove]

@Phamkuromi <t:1735872699:d>

NewJeans being kind doesn’t mean they’re inviting you to invade their privacy. Stop using your connections to get close to them WITHOUT their consent. you’re just moving like a sasaeng and making everyone uncomfortable.

[hushed whale]

[steel depot]

[knotty valve]

Dude trying to make content with the girls all while knowing there’s a whole mourning period at the moment. Dude is like being an actual dumbass lol hopefully he steps off from them now and let them be

[cerulean lake]

yeah i’m not sure if he knows there’s a mourning period rn

[stiff prairie]

action in nj updates after a long time damn

[stable escarp]

Does newjeans as artists have a non-compete clause? Im not too familiar with kpop contracts

[timber needle]

Contract has been terminated, so they are free to do whatever they want

[timber needle]

ADOR is contesting that the contract is still valid, in which case if the court sides with the label they will be able to claim damages on any content put out without them, but general consensus is that courts will side with the girls, at which point they will try to purchase the IP then, failing that, sue for it

[short laurel]

Are some of u guys nuts? What jasen did is really really bad. I can't believe there's someone here who is still defending him after this new incident.
Also jay park could get in trouble for this n i hope he does cuz his guests invaded other artists privacy. That's why this needs to blow up a bit.

[stiff prairie]

yeah this might be the first time i see L takes from some of yall. as much as i get that his livlihood is getting clout by any means necessary and i don't really judge him for that either, there's boundaries you shouldn't cross. but i disagree that it needs to be blown up. to me negative press is negative press. already saw a sniper ss making shit up about hanni jason. blowing it up will bring out these antis too.

[waxen musk]

Yeah just saw Sniper shit too. Anyway I’ve seen better takes since going away for a little bit. Just care about the girls. Jason clearly was only doing stuff for himself.

[mental lynx]

sniper Said something? Oh no..

[short laurel]

Those anti's doesn't matter at all. What matters is jay park n jason getting backlash for it. So in future they don't try this.

[stiff prairie]

i mean 90% of us would be fine if he contacted thru manager and all the necessary steps like last time. i'd be cool w that as well. other 10% would still hate cause they just hate jason.

[waxen musk]

I think we were all mostly fine with him last time then people found old clips and some of us started to lose trust but not everybody. But this I don’t get defenders at all.

[short laurel]

Old stuff just random online shit. But this one is a serious issue.

[hoary frost]

Thats right, theres literally no defending this as Namiko said lol
Getting backstage access not equals privileging u to knock on idols doors and act buddy buddy with them

[stiff prairie]

in any case since he deleted that part of stream, he knows what he did was wrong. let's see if he changes in the future. i'm all for character development and stuff

[waxen musk]

Sniper warning

[short laurel]

Stop sharing sniper. His words doesn't matter

[hoary frost]

People are also calling him out for only knowing Hanni LOL

[waxen musk]

Just needed reminding of what Sniper says because I hadn’t seen it for a while. It’s crazy.

It’s crazy to the point where I laugh at it initially because it’s so ridiculous but then I think for a second and get sad that so many people listen to this person and it spreads like wild fire.

[short laurel]

Only among haters. Others know the source is bs. All u are doing is giving haters clout.

[stiff prairie]

i'm actually going around calling bunnies out in these ss from bunnies and twts that bring other hybe gg in newjeans accomplishment posts lol. but ig in njcord we know what to disregard so it's less of an issue

[tardy smelt]

anyone have a list of upcoming court dates? that's about to become relevant again real soon

[stiff prairie]

only date announced i think is the hearing of mhj vs belift on jan 10

[tardy smelt]

where do people get this info? just so i can look it up myself in the future instead of having to ask lol

[stiff prairie]

news sites mostly. i just saw sb mention it a while ago here so i just searched january 10 to be sure lol

[opaque torrent]

its source music as well

[cosmic belfry]

Hm yea that is on the 10th as well.

https://m.entertain.naver.com/now/article/108/0003284077

[tardy smelt]

big day

[red thorn]

https://www.joynews24.com/view/1797741 follows mhj footsteps, she was under mhj mentorship in SM, Harin ex-nj debut team member is a talent in her agency

[stiff prairie]

Oh and mhj v employee b issue also has a date set on January

[heady gate]

It is 6pm KST. Was there any mediaplay this week? I don't recall.

[stiff prairie]

Mourning period going on rn. I think these few days we're safe

[mild mist]

Gonna be honest, every time you folks say 'Jason' I only think of this
https://youtu.be/OYQDnV092hI

[stable escarp]

Peak comedy

[harsh dove]

@Indomielovers <t:1735890077:d>

Sebenernya Indomielovers berasa excited karena senyum DANIELLE atau karena Indomie Korean Ramyeon Series?

Aku sih dua-duanya :D
#OhMyGoodItsIndomie

[tawdry vessel]

why is indomie here

[modern fog]

[tawdry vessel]

[harsh dove]

@twitreader17 <t:1735893803:d>

[red thorn]

Maybe use bot command with caption included lol
I thought this was aggro post/tweet

[flint stone]

Caption of the post

[hoary frost]

Even during mourning period theyre not safe from mediaplay

[flint stone]

For real, we need captions for posts like this

[flint stone]

They don't care, there are gonna be mediaplay as long as that pig has money and connections

Let's not talk about it again,read chat please 🙏

[cerulean ermine]

yeppp its much better

[finite monolith]

what was that

[flint stone]

?

[finite monolith]

no , i'm asking what was the deleted message

[flint stone]

it was something we talked about here

[finite monolith]

oh ok

[waxen musk]

lol I was thinking it was quiet because of the mourning period and then see the Hyein card shit. If there was nothing stopping them from putting out media play this week, why start now?

Also that was on the 1st, it's the end of the 3rd now.

[stiff prairie]

i only saw one hyein post. that too from a bunny's ss. i don't see it becoming much of an issue

like how they made a massive deal about a miniscule thing like visa renewal

[finite monolith]

prolly js a vocal minority, and it's on twitter... Most tokki don't even know half the dramas, they just listen to newjeans's music and love their sound. It's the NEET that have time for all the toxicity

[waxen musk]

To be honest I think half of this stuff would be much better off if we all didn't even have it forced in front of us in the first place to discuss online. But that's not how Twitter works.

Does anything change if we didn't know about it? No. It would probably be better, less chance the girls see talk around it and get stress from it.

But telling people to stop talking about every little thing is impossible.

I do try to see the perspective of people against Tokkis, and with the stuff earlier today, I kind of get it. It's just a lot of people saying the same thing over and over attacking one person and some people exaggerate or use very strong words. I just know how it seems from the other side's perspective, even if this time I think it's somewhat needed. But it's like that sometimes with other situations that don't deserve such a reaction.

[stiff prairie]

from the other side i'd say it's a problem if we totally don't talk back on certain things. like opps can run with any narrative and neutral ppl will believe the antis. tiktok is kinda becoming unsalvagable. any post about nj v hybe issue have mostly negative comments and even a lot of tokkis believe sniper stuff there

[waxen musk]

TikTok just doesn't have any balance at all unlike Twitter.

[stiff prairie]

for a lot of ppl esp in the us tiktok is what gives them first impression on a lot of topics

[waxen musk]

I don't know what the solution is to anything we discussed.

[stiff prairie]

same

[cerulean ermine]

forget Abt itt

[short laurel]

NJ has/had deals with both hyudai card and shinhan btw.

this dude and some people in reply really weird. the dude is a nobody, he isn't a professional nor is he buddy of NJ. he only meet girls once. defending him over this is really weird.

but these people defending sasaeng behavior just cuz this guy is little famous.

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1875177050786746812

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1735912022:d>

How can Park Hyo-joo, a grown man and supposedly an educated journalist, stoop so low as to weaponize a fansite photo of a 16-year-old K-pop idol simply holding a card from a company that happens to be a competitor of a brand the group no longer represents? The article’s title accuses her of being “rude” because her contract with Shinhan Bank had ended, and she was seen using a competitor’s card. The keyword here is “ended.” Why, then, would this so-called “reporter” frame the situation as if Hyein committed a crime?

The baseless claim that Hyein was “flaunting” the card is a deliberate lie. This narrative reeks of a reverse viral campaign, a strategy that we all know to be HYBE’s modus operandi. They seem adept at recruiting opportunistic “journalists”—those who can be enticed by “golf outings”—and turning them into compliant agents of their agenda. These individuals, who clearly lack journalistic integrity, seem to have made a career out of targeting and vilifying teenage girls.

This isn’t journalism; it’s a deliberate attempt to manufacture outrage where none exists. Such actions are not only unprofessional but also deeply unethical, especially when the target is a young artist who deserves to be celebrated for her resilience and courage in standing up against HYBE and Fraudor. Instead of being uplifted for her strength, she is unjustly subjected to baseless and malicious criticism.

[copper jetty]

same. I don't get why people are even defending him. I'm thankful that he introduced the girls' music to another demographic that usually may not listen to them but what he did was borderline creepy.

He was invited and given a backstage pass by another team's artist and not by the girls. The most that I could associate what happened is when sasaengs buy business class tickets with the same flight as the artists they're stalking... Them using what they have (money or as for that guy's case his connections) for the parasocial connection and also for his vlog? It's kind of the same instance for me. Edit: actually it's kind of more icky now that i think about it... maybe it's for the connection too another one is for clout so... yeah.

[upbeat stream]

I like how his fans are calling us parasocial. Like somehow asking for the girls to be given their own space is parasocial lol

[copper jetty]

us asking for the girls to be given their own space is parasocial? Wouldn't that just be respect? Which should be a given?

[finite monolith]

didn't he met them before that? https://youtu.be/s36iJMtuuos?si=O1jZstfAjTU5ybnJ&t=1211

after newjeans finished performing , he went backstage to see the girls again. Like... i notice the narative is that "Jason stalked newjeans, and somehow got access to the backstage , he then headed to their dressing room and that's is disgusting"

people come to conclusion on a 3 second clip about how he "stalked newjeans, didn't get their permission to meet them???, and the so called "dressing room"" , Like... the length to which these people are trying drag jason down because they don't like fact that he can personally meet the girls is insane...

[waxen musk]

I discussed it all above and I do think people don't understand the full details but seriously watching the full video made it WORSE. I won't repeat myself but read what I said earlier.

[finite monolith]

and i saw someone said "Hanni got weirded out when she met jason". In the video he said that before nwjns was going on stage, they were mic-ed up, ready to perform, he went and greeted them, then hanni looked "confused and shocked that i was there". End of story .
These people seriously need to get a job, like... they have too much free time on their hands where they think they are seriously "protecting" the girls from "creeps like jason".

[split bramble]

all these jason and airport shit have reinforced that the girls need to get airtight security both domestic and overseas

[neon igloo]

I don't think we can influence the behavior of a young guy who does things that violate the personal space of girls

[copper jetty]

He met them before but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're close and that they're friends. They only met once, are you assuming that they're instantly close just because they were introduced? I think it would've been fine if he "met" the girls accidentaly while maybe backstage but literally waiting for them outside their dressing room and filming it? I'm not trying to drag him down either because I don't like the fact that he can personally meet the girls... I don't know him outside of of the eta meme, i'm not into whatever he's doing, I haven't watched any of his video aside from the eta clip so I don't really have anything against him but I just want them to meet them through either their managers or if the girls themselves wanted it.

[finite monolith]

*x -c https://x.com/Theweenverse/status/1875008952972505255

[harsh dove]

@Theweenverse <t:1735871945:d>

An Anti-Jason Tokki sect claim to be worried about Newjeans safety because of Jasontheween😭‼️

[stiff prairie]

Nah mate you're alone on this one. All he had to do is follow the same process he did last time ie just connect the both managers, the girls get to know beforehand, they can deny or agree to meet w him, or may say they can meet but can't record etc. Esp when it's a sensitive time for them after the airport incident and mourning period going on. What he did speaks entitlement to me. I'm not saying cancel him or whatever. He just needs to do better from now on.

[neon igloo]

so the best solution would be to really strengthen security at all events

[finite monolith]

was newjeans in the room? the room was open at the time

[neon igloo]

yeah, he just needs to respect their personal space. No need to cancel him, he's a fan like the rest of us, just with more influence and money

[copper jetty]

how would i know? i don't watch him.

[hoary frost]

That door was not open LOL if thats wat u were saying

[neon igloo]

Dude, if we came to your house and told you “hi,we were Tokkies”, I don't think you'd be happy about it

[stiff prairie]

Nicnats probably meant the time hanni Dani haerin met jason

[finite monolith]

*x https://x.com/Aureli__24/status/1874982613666173283

[harsh dove]

@Aureli__24 <t:1735865665:d>

[finite monolith]

it was

[hoary frost]

Js saw it

Now everyt I see is Jason

[finite monolith]

yes, i would

[copper jetty]

yeah i meant when they first met and not in this concert

[stiff prairie]

Dad joke alert
If Jason asked them about meeting beforehand they would've asked "what's your ETA"

[copper jetty]

so he was waiting for them since they weren't there? I'm not against him meeting the girls really if the girls wanted it, it's fine, i mean in my imagination they could've interacted but if they did, I'm thinking he would've included that in the video already. The fact that he didn't tells me they either didn't get permission or they're not close. End of discussion.

[finite monolith]

he doesn't need their permission to say "hi" to them, anyone who has access to the backstage can do that, in the video there was 2 guys besides jason (prolly staff) there. Anyone can go and said "hi" to newjeans or any of the artist performing there, the "backstage pass" IS THE PERMISSION :))))

[stiff prairie]

That's the problem.

[copper jetty]

i'm saying he didn't get permission to film their interaction, what are you saying? Also, why are you so defensive about him???

[finite monolith]

how do you know he was gonna film it without the girls permission?, he only filmed it there because NO ONE was there

and the girls is usually accompanied by the staff , so it's not like he can film without their permission if he wanted to anyways

[hoary frost]

Walking to backstage, documenting every move, every interaction with Newjeans with details and what he planned to do (knock on an Artist’s door, who sold millions of copies and has millions of fans globally)
“I said hi to Hanni and the rest of the members”
Does he not know “the rest of the members” LOL idk maybe overthinking it
“She honestly looked confused and shocked that I was there”
Up to intepretation ig, it could be that Hanni was positively surprised at his presence or it could be that she was uncomfortable with his presence.

But this is literally what saesangs are LOL
U meet idols a few times, ur idols talk to u, u are happy, u think u guys r friends

Like u cant say other idols come knocking on each other’s doors
Theyre IDOLS they KNOW each other LMAO theyre in the same industry and have been working w each other directly or indirectly
Comparing idols interactions with one another with a streamer of a completely different genre is wild

[stiff prairie]

All I am saying is it should've been very easy to communicate beforehand. I don't go to my friend's house and knock on the door. I give them a call to let them know I'm coming. That should the normal process imo

[copper jetty]

ok you're misconstruing what i'm saying. when i said they probably didn't get permission i didn't just mean the girl's permission... i was talking about their management. wth are you on?? maybe i didn't make it clear when i said it??

[hoary frost]

Even without working for the entertainment industry, its literally known everything idols do goes thru their managers
If he had reached out, Hanni wldve known, she wldnt hv been surprised
He came backstage with the only intent of meeting/surprising them and we all know thats true LOL

[hoary frost]

No no I wasnt replying to u, I was js making this thread in general

[copper jetty]

oh sorry i wasn't replying to you either...

[hoary frost]

Sorry for the misunderstanding

[hoary frost]

Yes, thats right
This cldve been avoided if he had talked to their manager beforehand
Im sure he has a way to contact their manager, since theyve communicated before for the first meetup

[copper jetty]

nope you're good. i'm replying to @finite monolith

[finite monolith]

he greeted the girls before they come on stage, the girls now knows he was there , after the girl finished performing he went to meet them backstage...

So you're mad that he didn't contacted the girls management and just go and greet them?

[hoary frost]

“He just wanted to gift them something”
There are so many things idols are afraid of and one of them are gifts from fans
Needs to be checked by security guards, vulgar messages, hidden cameras, allat
Im not saying Jason is the type to do this
But idols have to be cautious and if the girls accepted these gifts there wldve been another thread about “Newjeans accepting gifts from Jason”

[hoary frost]

Why do u think he is at Japan countdown in the first place? Let alone backstage
He said he barely knew the Japanese artists there and only knew Newjeans
He had the sole intent to meet newjeans at their dressing room
Its bolded, because this should have gone through with management first

Being backstage does not give u the rights to meet the artists without their manager’s knowledge, hes not an idol, hes an outsider

[finite monolith]

you are saying as if jason wanted to meet nwjns when they're changing or smth, it sounds that way

[hoary frost]

In what way am I saying that? Ure focusing on the wrong thing LOL

[copper jetty]

we're telling you yeah. he could've gone through the proper channels through their manager and the manager could've asked the girls instead of him ambushing them in their dresser cause that's what it looked like.

[hoary frost]

Thats what the room is called, the dressing room

[finite monolith]

can you read korean

[hoary frost]

Watched enough shows and googled enough to know the rooms backstage are dedicated dressing rooms for artists

We’re going in circles here
He should have sorted out something with Newjeans’ manager first
That is all, u dont need to victimize him, he doesnt need ur defense

Jason has made a name for himself sure, as a streamer
He is not an idol, it is weird for him to interact with an idol like they are friends
He is a fan with a reputation

[neon igloo]

Let’s stop arguing with each other. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But we must not forget that everyone has their personal space. This is an especially delicate matter for artists because they’re under constant attention.
In this situation, there’s no need to conduct a “witch hunt” against Jason. However, he did act inappropriately here. He should have contacted their management and arranged a brief meeting instead of intruding into their dressing room. That’s all

[hoary frost]

Thats right, no witch hunt is needed

Common Azare W

[waxen musk]

I know there are different people talking now than 12 hours ago because of time zones and stuff but nothing new is being said.

[hoary frost]

Some people just dont backread and start the same argument again

[copper jetty]

Ok let's just end this discussion with this cutie patootie.

[stiff prairie]

Tbf sometimes I wait for others to bring stuff up cause I didn't get to rant the first time the conversation happened. sorry

[mental lynx]

Guys I flew from Japan back to Germany and this is still going on 😳

[hoary frost]

I feel like we should be talking about the article abt Hyein more

Why did a grown ass man feel the need to write a hate article against a 17 yr old

[copper jetty]

i'm not surprised though... they went with the kalguksu issue with minji and that's a nothing burger...

[hoary frost]

Did he write an article abt Kalguksu too?

[copper jetty]

Also, it's not the first time they went with hyein... there was that phoning photo of the "stop copying"

[stiff prairie]

I don't even know about that ever happening

[copper jetty]

no it was a previous issue with minji but I'm actually surprised that it blew up.

[hoary frost]

What the

[stiff prairie]

I feel like it's best that most of these get buried with time

[hoary frost]

Wasnt that in one of the practice room lives..its weird they managed to make a scandal out of allat

[half thicket]

what are yall fightin im tryna buy newjeanz stuff on roblox

[copper jetty]

there's newjeans stuff on roblox???

[hoary frost]

Fights over LOL
He couldnt get up from the clock

[stiff prairie]

Fights ended in 2024

[hoary frost]

Bro is putting us on

[half thicket]

nope

[hoary frost]

||How do I clear X of Jason||

[copper jetty]

mute

[hoary frost]

Everyrhing related to him

[waxen musk]

There'll be more things to worry about starting next week so hopefully it'll all be forgotten soon.

[mental lynx]

Block everything related to him

[neon igloo]

https://imgur.com/4QmPLkD

[half thicket]

i need sumary i been no on njccord for 2day

[hoary frost]

This looks big I see Hybe but I dont understand anyt

[hoary frost]

*x -c https://x.com/aarrttee01/status/1874684106057158685?s=46

[harsh dove]

@aarrttee01 <t:1735794495:d>

🚨🚨여러분! 계속 지켜봐주세요!“으뜸기업 인증 유효기간이 선정일로부터 3년…해당 지위를 3년간 유지할 수 있게 됐다.”🚨🚨
🚨머니투데이는 하이브 신문인가? 왜 자꾸 jeanz에 부정적 여론몰이하며 댓글열지? 오늘 하이브 기사는 댓없앴네? 11월5일 하이브 당기순이익 14억원 낸 기사에는 “청신호”

[waxen musk]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553
Whenever I see something I can't read it looks like this to me.

[stiff prairie]

🚨🚨Everyone! Please keep watching! “The Best Company certification validity period is 3 years from the date of selection… I was able to maintain this position for 3 years.”🚨🚨 🚨Is Money Today a hive newspaper? Why do you keep posting negative comments about jeanz? Didn’t you leave a comment on today’s Hive article? The article on November 5th about Hive’s net profit of 1.4 billion won was given a “green light"

[hoary frost]

Looks serious

Oh its abt Hybes top company status

[stiff prairie]

i'm charging my phone so can't use lens to translate but it looks like money today's connection to hybe rather than a singular topic

[copper jetty]

i have no clue either. I just want this to be over already, the legalities and stuff... it's been nine months since this started. In a way Hybe got what they want with benching newjeans. They haven't released anything in 6 months.

[hoary frost]

FREE MY GOATS NEWJEANS

[red thorn]

I forgot the hybe PR director was from Money Today

[copper jetty]

so basically, connections... same old same old

what's funny is hybe really is trying so hard to redeem their "lost reputation" in korea but to no avail

[short laurel]

i m gonna come and knock of some of you guys door. since people said it's normal and not weird, it should be fine right?

we've all been talking here for 9 months. that's basically friends right. nothing weird about it right? @finite monolith

[finite monolith]

the discussion is over 💀 stop dragging it out.

[short laurel]

stop dragging it u said. u were the one to bring it back when it was over and u even said bs statement. and now u telling me to stop?

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/minixzzz/status/1875178077422248045

[narrow seal]

250103 minixzzz Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/minixzzz/status/1875178077422248045
Next week will be the start of MHJ's court hearings.

What to expect:

Media storm! Not just vs MHJ, but targeting our girls as group and individually. Get a happy weekend.
Work resumes next week. We have at least 6 full time jobs, remember?

Believe this or not, up to you👇

[short laurel]

public figures. small streamers like him is not a public figure. even among public figures recording is with permission but this guy was recording it without any.

[finite monolith]

nobody cares 💀 💀 , he friends with newjeans so he wanted to meet them. Newjeans don't need your approval about who they should or shouldn't be friends with

[midnight yarrow]

I actually can't wait for the court proceedings to begin so I can stop seeing all these posts about Jason. It's ultimately trivial compared to the fight the girls and Bunnies have ahead of them

[short laurel]

we don't know if he's friend or not. he only meet them once. stop approving sasaeng behavior

[finite monolith]

that's up to the girls to decide , not you 💀

[midnight yarrow]

Can everyone please get over it. We have MUCH bigger issues to worry about very soon

[short laurel]

same goes to you. it's not up to you to decide if his behavior is right or wrong. again stop approving sasaeng behavior.

[midnight yarrow]

Right now we're in the calm before a mighty storm. Please enjoy it while it lasts. A media shit show is coming along with a very obsessed fandom who are out to get NewJeans every day

[hoary frost]

lol yall blowing it out of proportion. invasion of privacy? he went at the concert as a fan then luckily got a backstage pass ofc he would try to meet them again since they got history

[waxen musk]

Am I weird for thinking "I can't wait"? I just want everything to just be done as soon as possible, even if I know it will take forever and drag out far into the future even after the girls are happy doing what they want for a while.

[hoary frost]

yall act like all he do is follow them around calling him a stalker for just one publicly announced event he attended

[waxen musk]

"he friends with newjeans"
Why do I keep seeing people say that?
It's for a reason...

[jade jolt]

Since when is he friends with nj just because he met with them once?

[waxen musk]

Because people are easily fooled.

[finite monolith]

just end this stupid argument already 💀 , whether they're friends or not is up to newjeans , not you or your definition of what a "friend" is

[upbeat stream]

you are the only one who said that, not nwjns

[waxen musk]

And yet there are people saying that, not NewJeans.

[hoary frost]

obv it means they got somewhat a personal relationship they know his name they invited him to meet before in korea they personally replied to his comments with his name on it that means hes no ordinary fan

[upbeat stream]

So take your own advice

Acquaintance is the right word

[finite monolith]

https://youtu.be/9RvGIZz_2FI?si=hQyebsjKgSHFA7Wm&t=1308

[short laurel]

he contacted through manager and got approved, that's just 1 metting. jeanz replied to multiple people. it doesn't say anything about if they are friends or not. as baron said, they are acquaintance as far as public knows.

[finite monolith]

yeah bro 💀 whatever suits you

[jade jolt]

I agree

[faint oyster]

If I remember correctly, Jason was able to meet them because Jason asked Jay Park to help contact the newjeans manager. Not because they are "friend" or something

[upbeat stream]

Eh, calling out weird behavior is ok. Like when his fans said Hanni did the faze logo and she had to personally call them out

[jade jolt]

Jason personally said that and it was wierd af

[upbeat stream]

Really? I thought it was just fans. That's just...

[mental lynx]

Yall realize he usually just says hannis name? Does he know the Rest of the names?

[finite monolith]

it was a tiktok comment that has 11 likes on a random tiktok video that nobody cares if not for these SJWs screenshotting the thing and getting thousands of likes on twitter

[upbeat stream]

Jason updates on twt spread it.

[jade jolt]

Yeaah he went on their ig account and showed the story to the camera in a vlog it was super wierd

[upbeat stream]

What are you using the word SJW here for?

[finite monolith]

"YO HANNI JUST THROW UP FAZE SIGN" it's not that serious =))))

it's obvious it's a joke, he's streaming, don't take everything so seriously

[upbeat stream]

It's his fans that spread it and took it seriously

[jade jolt]

If hanni had to clarify it on the story i don t think she felt comfortable

[upbeat stream]

And why Hanni had to deny it herself

[hoary frost]

im not saying their like friends but like i said that means they atleast know each other jason is like a celebrity figure too him being backstage and wanting to say hi is not that crazy

[short laurel]

i said this month ago. i'll say it again. kpop idols public image is very sesitive. even smallest joke can blow up into something serious. especially for big groups like NJ. especially during current drama with hybe. we never know what media will pick up to attack girls. so jasen who has some public presence should be caeful about what he do and say about girls.

[finite monolith]

HANNI WOULDNT EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT IF NOT FOR THESE PEOPLE MAKING A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT

[upbeat stream]

But it was Jason fans who spread it. Whom exactly did you call SJW here?

[waxen musk]

I'm still seeing people confused and thinking his access to backstage acts as a kind of "permission". I'm still trying to understand these people, even in here.

[mental lynx]

https://x.com/jasontheween/status/1864006695116214555?s=46
why did he have to add hanni in this Clip? Im curious tho just Because of the celebration?

FaZe Jason (@jasontheween) on X

charity match ready @Sidemen
(PLS GET ME AN INVITE)

Twitter · Dec 3, 2024, 6:00 PM

[jade jolt]

Why are you screaming bro it s ok no need to 😭

[hoary frost]

permission to say hi to somebody you already know?

[upbeat stream]

And it's not like he got his access via nwjns, otherwise it would've been fine

[finite monolith]

are you sure???? cause from my perspective , the post that garner thousands of likes and repost are people clipping the thing and acted like jason should be freaking witch hunted for that

[upbeat stream]

Is jason updates supposed to be a tokki account to you?

[waxen musk]

I thought after his reaction on his stream where he went crazy I thought he'd try to distance himself from Tokkis, but then he can't help himself.

[short laurel]

there's difference between saying hi and going to their dressing room to say hi.

[upbeat stream]

To reiterate, him or his fans behavior has already led Hanni to clarify once

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1875013089046995398 does not contain any media!

[hoary frost]

is the same thing lol

[finite monolith]

"dressing room" like... it's obvious you're trying to frame jason as a creep who stalked them then try to meet them and the "dressing room" , can you read Korean??

[short laurel]

can u read korean ?

[waxen musk]

They were in Japan.

[mental lynx]

I just find him confusing

[short laurel]

are these people above serious?

[hoary frost]

yall act like hes just barging in their dressing room he said actually wanted to knock and say hi but they already left

[waxen musk]

With a camera out.

[finite monolith]

no one was there

[mental lynx]

He already said hi before they went on stage why saying hi again

[finite monolith]

he was filming HIMSELF

[hoary frost]

lol he was vlogging did you actually watch the whole thing he clearly explaining the aftermath

[finite monolith]

do you really think Jason will be like "oh hi newjeans, i'm just gonna film you anyways regardless of what you think or the staff that goes with you think because i don't respect privacy at all" ???

[upbeat stream]

Most backstage clips of Korean artists I seem to remember show that they wait outside the room if they wish to say hi instead of like knocking. When the artist comes out to perform or to return to their room, that's when they say hi

[neon igloo]

https://imgur.com/4QmPLkD

[craggy skiff]

It is annoying and funny at the same time
I talked with one of his fan a week ago that will be a problem if he doesn't know how to keep their space
Now look how it's gone

[upbeat stream]

Like I remember seeing clip of Stayc Sieun waiting outside IU's room for her to return from her performance to greet her

[neon igloo]

Guys, it’s really time to stop. We’re turning this discussion into endless spam. Let’s not do that

[waxen musk]

We wouldn't be talking about this if he didn't plan on "surprising" them and just done exactly what he done before. Why did he do things differently this time?

[short laurel]

i m just shocked by the replies i got above.

[waxen musk]

I'm more fascinated by why these people are just so not weirded out with the situation than me actually being bothered by what the guy did in the first place.

[finite monolith]

no one cares 💀

[short laurel]

how is me saying about hi is presenting him as creep. i m genuinely confused

[craggy skiff]

And his fake facetime call. Lol

[neon igloo]

I understand our feelings, but we need to calm down and stop attacking each other

[finite monolith]

say "hi at their dressing room" , you're missing some words

[short laurel]

still doesn't change how is it presenting him as creep

[faint oyster]

Jason used the screenshot from Phoning Live to pretend that Hanni was calling him.

[finite monolith]

thanks captain obvious

[neon igloo]

[mental lynx]

[craggy skiff]

I dont know it is live phoning, record or deepfake. Its a video. He also ask his friend to say hi to hanni.
Lmao

[gentle badger]

[hushed whale]

[mental lynx]

Lets just stop we don’t know how the girls felt when he appeared there and we will Never know since they wont talk about it

[stiff prairie]

[mental lynx]

[waxen musk]

The girls were likely just focused on the performance. We don't even know the intention of Hanni's reaction based on Jason's description of the quick hi. All we're focusing on is his action outside the room and his intentions which I think are clear from watching the full video. Let's start focusing on the girls again, something which barely has their involvement with what happened to be honest.

[hoary frost]

its just crazy how other tokkis are trying to cancel him in the name of newjeans

[waxen musk]

Don't know why you care about this guy and his feelings when he acted so creepy to be honest. Just unacceptable. Can't put it any simpler. Seems like you don't care about the girls at all and care more about him.

[hoary frost]

its not a good look for the fandom just like mhj jason is well liked in his industry they are prolly confused and be scared to interact with kpop bcuz of this

[stiff prairie]

i don't think the ones that want to cancel him ever watched him in the first place. it's an unpleasant thing that happened that's all. in the future jason will hopefully contact them properly first and then do their collab. we should be moving on this from now. another 6 hrs would drag this convo for a full whole day

[craggy skiff]

The only thing mhj actually done is decorate her home with some weird paint/pictures.
And she never deny the hate she got by her action
Its not the same with your boy

[stiff prairie]

-rule1

[tall dew]

**Be respectful of others. **Trolling, harassment, doxxing, and similar behavior is not tolerated.

[hoary frost]

im not comparing what they did im saying how the ppl are treating them and how ppl who actually know them personally would view some pf yall actions

[neon igloo]

[stiff prairie]

[tall dew]

[neon igloo]

Let’s be more friendly to each other. We all love Jeanz, and the girls definitely wouldn’t want us to argue with anyone

[tawdry vessel]

jeanz also want their boundaries and privacy respected

showing up uninvited infront of the dressing room of young girls is never okay

why the fuck is that hard to understand

you are a creep, im blocking you

[cold cliff]

From everything ive seen today people are really twisting the story

[steep torrent]

its just stuff stacking up like that clip of him asking if they're 18 before he says something like what is he wanting to say??

[cold cliff]

But tbh i have no understanding of the situation and im just here cos im curious on why they were posting a lot of things against him even before the clip

[waxen musk]

He's young and I hope he can change for the better. But he's showing a pattern of particular intentions which were ultimately not that harmful but culminating in this most recent sitaution that just tipped everything over the edge for a bunch of us.

[steep torrent]

*x https://x.com/aureli__24/status/1870105437535641778?zs=46
this is just weird

[harsh dove]

@Aureli__24 <t:1734702855:d>

[tawdry vessel]

if you defend this creep, ypu are a creep. You are a fan of him, not nj

[cold cliff]

Were in a generation where people are sensitive about a lot of things, so thats very understandable

Im not siding with anyone because I know connections can get you these types of things but he did admit that hanni didn’t expect to see him backstage so thats weirded alot of people out

[cold cliff]

And also this^

[sly python]

is there a TLDR of the situation?

[tawdry vessel]

https://x.com/Phamkuromi/status/1875012118065598494

Chericheri／(≧ x ≦)＼🍒🍀 (@Phamkuromi) on X

NewJeans being kind doesn’t mean they’re inviting you to invade their privacy. Stop using your connections to get close to them WITHOUT their consent. you’re just moving like a sasaeng and making everyone uncomfortable.

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 2:51 AM

that's it basically

[waxen musk]

Jason went to Japan for Countdown Japan 24/25 to see NewJeans.
He was given backstage access.
He made a vlog out of it.
There was a short clip that was removed from the vlog after it was uploaded.
People see it as creepy (and others don't).
There's more tiny details but I'm too lazy to repeat everything.

[sly python]

hmmm ok thank u im looking into this

[waxen musk]

If you want to look into it all you can do is either backread this mess of a thread or similar threads on Twitter, or just simply watch his video and also the short clip that was deleted and make up your own mind.

Most people just watched the short clip it seems like.

[heady gate]

And Sniper took advantage of Jason's deleted video post and created a trash post about Jason and Hanni.

[tawdry vessel]

well jason faked facetiming hanni so sadly sniper isn't the only one to blame here

[sly python]

yea this was a weird by him, mainly the going to their dressing room part

if he was able to schedule meeting before, why not do it again & if that wasnt possible its for a reason so why force it???

[waxen musk]

Yeah exactly.
You're a streamer you have more insight or can relate to him a bit more.

[tawdry vessel]

he mostly likely tried but got ignored or refused but his creepy ass did it anyway, no respect at all and we have people defending him

[sly python]

yea like i can understand the content brain but like when i met chaewon it wasnt backstage or anywhere more private, it was a public apperance by them (blizzcon)

[sly python]

i dont see whats there to defend but also i dont think he had any bad intentions etc, its giving new fan whose overly excited & doing too much

[cold cliff]

Definitely no bad intentions, people are just misinterpreting what happened but in the end it did send off a weird image on him

[sly python]

if he was backstage & they were passing by & said hi bye then i think thats fine but going to the room was too much

[waxen musk]

The only bad intentions I see is him just intending to make content out of it. But that's his life, the only thing on his mind, he almost can't escape it. I have a problem with that and others don't, it seems.

[waxen musk]

The thing is that happened first. With him hanging around the stage before they went to go perform, with Hanni (according to Jason) having a weird response (hard to know her intentions and emotions).

[sly python]

outcome will always outweigh the intention especially on the internet, he messed up & gotta deal with the consequences

[sly python]

yea seems like he doesnt know how the culture is so strict regarding filming/content etc.

[tawdry vessel]

Bad intentions or not..idols or normal people.. everyone deserves to have their boundaries and privacy respected. And don't give me that that's how the entertainment industry works bullshit

[waxen musk]

Not to make it about you nezst but did people have issue about you streaming Bunnies Camp? Obviously I've only seen people happy that you did. But it's a thing streamers do, they push to see what they can film even if told no. It literally happens in the Jason vlog at the BAPE shop.

[cold cliff]

I dont see making content out of it is bad generally since thats basically how he makes his living but using others for clout is what I feel like is wrong, basically his most recent video since I am pretty sure they didn’t expect to meet him but in the end he still used “I met Newjeans again” as a title

[sly python]

surprisingly ive had good public feedback, everyone was happy & thankful for 90% of the kpop content ive done...only had a issue with twice fans once...lol

[hoary frost]

makes sense though he's only very casual with them

[waxen musk]

Yeah that's the thing people also disagree with: his intentions. What he says and how he acts is why I think people have disagreements, because I'm basing everything solely on how he acted. He literally says he didn't say he was going to meet them when he streamed earlier, but in the vlog it's definitely his strong wish and intention and discussion point throughout.

[hoary frost]

and he's not in the kpop space entirely so he's completely oblivious and unaware to everything

[waxen musk]

It's the WHOLE REASON for the video. His INTENTION to meet them.

[hoary frost]

Y'all just stop arguing pls...

[sly python]

tokkis have every right to be upset, he made a bad decision & thats it

[tawdry vessel]

I agree with nezst. My main problem is him showing up in front of young girls' dressing room uninvited. If you dont see that as creepy, you need help.

[waxen musk]

I keep thinking people keep focusing on the "creepy" clip that was deleted (showing admission of guilt imo).
But what barely anyone is focusing on in the intent and purpose of the video. I think watching it just made everything so much clearer for me.

[sly python]

also if u take away the fact that hes popular etc. it clearly shows this (if any other fan did this it will be hell)

[short laurel]

I feel like my this msg was ignored again. 🥺

[waxen musk]

Yeah I agree.

[cold cliff]

Definitely, im pretty sure he was just supposed to be there to watch Newjeans perform for CDJ

[waxen musk]

See you read what I wrote, and disagreed with me. Interesting...
I don't think you even realised you disagreed with me.
You just saw his intentions completely differently from how I did, because I didn't specify in the message you replied to.

[cold cliff]

No im agreeing cos the way he acted and the things he said in the vlog made it clear that the only intention he had was to meet them

Plus his actions and words painted two different pictures at the end of the day

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[waxen musk]

Oh well you made it sound the opposite sorry lol

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[waxen musk]

Nearly, just a few more hours and it'll be 24 hours!

[cold cliff]

Hopefully it’ll be over sooner or later

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[sly python]

nailed it

[waxen musk]

I'm more annoyed with people defending him than the severity of what he did (relatively minor with maybe some unintended consequences as Namiko described)

[sly python]

nah people shouldnt let it go, this would just encourage people to keep trying since people will forget about it barring anything more happens

"if he got to meet newjeans, why cant i"

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[sly python]

[tardy smelt]

i agree with this. i’m in the boat where what i think he did was weird and crossing boundaries, but at the end of the day, harmless. he should be called out for it because it’s just something you don’t do, but not condemned as you said.

[tawdry vessel]

Just be normal and meet the girls in a respectful way. They deserve that. Just like hanni said she doesnt want to feel uncomfortable with bunnies

[sly python]

fans going to the airport should also be called out, thats also weird behavior

[tardy smelt]

fair

[cold cliff]

The press and media who always show up should also be but they aren’t

[sly python]

agreed 100%

[short laurel]

There shouldn't be any airport shoot. Public figures should be given vip entry n exit.
But for bs reasons sk is against giving idols vip entry n exit

It's crazy to me that people without booking are even allowed that deep into the airport.

[tawdry vessel]

so we're not allowed to pick up family or a friend at the airport?

[short laurel]

That's at arrival gate n it's way outside. I m talking about departure gate.

[tardy smelt]

i’ve been back reading and i’m kind of disappointed people aren’t willing to listen to the points of other sides of discussion in a thread for discussion. lots of emotion in here though so i also understand. anyway, glad it’s cooled off and i hope we don’t drag that conversation any longer.

[cold cliff]

They were in favor of it but ended up ditching the idea because of the outcry of locals due to the criticism of preferential treatment

[short laurel]

In my country we can't enter the airport without booking n exiting from the departure gate is logged. That's what i m used to. So seeing fans going so deep in airport in korea i find it weird n wrong.

[short laurel]

If public figures don't get to use vip entry n exit then who does? I find their excuse dumb

[acoustic marsh]

Can i ask if he has said anything about why he’s in the japan countdown in the first place? If it was solely for newjeans i feel kinda weird tht he’s milking their fame for his own benefit & profit

[cold cliff]

https://x.com/jasontheween/status/1873433810085597469?s=46

FaZe Jason (@jasontheween) on X

Missing new years with my family to see NewJeans' perform at Countdown Japan. How cooked am i?😅

Twitter · Dec 29, 2024, 6:20 PM

[acoustic marsh]

Do we know how he got his hands on the backstage pass?

[steep torrent]

they should make it an additional charge or something that way they cant say only celebs can use it but idk how good that would work

[cold cliff]

I personally am not sure but definitely from connections

[steep torrent]

jay park/ his team

Arthur someone said I think

[cold cliff]

Then wouldn’t that make the backlash worse cos if you were to be charged to use a vip gate people could use it to meet the celebs themselves also

[acoustic marsh]

Damn bro didnt even go for jay park and got backstage pass frm jaypark? 😭

And he went there for new jeans supposedly

[cold cliff]

I mean he was already milking from it since the beginning

[cold cliff]

^

[acoustic marsh]

If he was close to new jeans he wudve asked for backstage pass frm nj no?

It’s kinda off but i cant rly make assumptions as bc idk how close he is with the members but smtg does feel off— kinda weird vibes

[cold cliff]

Thats the thing, they didnt expect him to even be at backstage

[steep torrent]

im thinking only the people getting off the plane could use it bc why would regular people pay to use a thing only used to get off a flight idk lol

[steep torrent]

probably got ignored or something, I think he even tagged them on ig the day before on his story

[tawdry vessel]

he only met them for like 20 minutes and had to fake facetiming with hanni, they're not close

[acoustic marsh]

I wonder if he did request a backstage pass frm the newjeans team and didnt get one

Tht would make it weird for sure bc why did he ask jay park for a backstage pass

[steep torrent]

yeah maybe, there's also juantokki being vague as hell saying something about the 'og' ador team knowing about him now so maybe thats why idek what he was on about

[acoustic marsh]

Wdym the og ador team knowing? Can u elaborate

[waxen musk]

I don't even see any Tweet from 1tokki about that. Can you just link to it?

[stable escarp]

[tawdry vessel]

Jay park gave him the number to contact with nj's manager, so he contacted them, and they said ok, hence the first meetup. But this time around this mf showed up infront of their dressing room uninvited while probably filming

[steep torrent]

idk either it was a reply I saw from him I think he deleted

[acoustic marsh]

I wonder why he didnt just meet up with jay park on his vlog if he got backstage pass thru him

Kinda weird bro i think he should stop being a weirdo

[tawdry vessel]

https://x.com/Phamkuromi/status/1875012118065598494

Chericheri／(≧ x ≦)＼🍒🍀 (@Phamkuromi) on X

NewJeans being kind doesn’t mean they’re inviting you to invade their privacy. Stop using your connections to get close to them WITHOUT their consent. you’re just moving like a sasaeng and making everyone uncomfortable.

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 2:51 AM

[short laurel]

Check his channel if he has video with jay park.

[steep torrent]

what I got from he said was that it was not the og ador staff who allowed the meet up to happen or something. idk where he got that from tho

[tawdry vessel]

using jay park to invade the girls privacy

that's about it

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[steep torrent]

i dont get this tho bc it seems like their og managers are still with them

[waxen musk]

Oh man I really hope GDA is their last obligation with ADOR so we know what to expect but we can’t be sure it is.

Because right now it’s a bit ambiguous who’s involved.

[short laurel]

I just realised. he got access through jay park but he has no collab with jay park. I find this disrespectful. n I don't even know jay park.

[steep torrent]

they did

[tawdry vessel]

Just lock the thread, i dont wanna see more weirdos defending a creep

[short laurel]

I don't c it on his channel

[steep torrent]

had a stream with him and he even went to the faze house I think

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[waxen musk]

He explains this in the vlog that Jay was respecting the mourning period. Also he’s streamed with Jay on Twitch

[wind monolith]

What locking the thread over this is bs just move on already

[short laurel]

I m talking about Collab in new year show. Not some old stream.

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[short laurel]

If he did it then it's fine.

[tawdry vessel]

he did what?

[short laurel]

Collab with the one who gave him the pass.

[waxen musk]

He intended to, but like I said in Jason's vlog he says Jay had to cancel because of the mourning period.

[acoustic marsh]

THIS! Does anyone know if he has content with jay park?

[short laurel]

People said above he did.

[cold cliff]

A past stream when he first went to korea iirc but it was like months ago

[wind monolith]

Yes he does he did a stream in korea and also jay park came to the faze house

[acoustic marsh]

Ok so he’s buddies with jay park but he intended to go to the japan countdown to meet new jeans allegedly frm wht he discussed

[waxen musk]

Seriously all your questions will be answered if you watched the full video. I know you don't want to give him views but like I said before multiple times it makes everything a whole lot clearer.

[acoustic marsh]

True i shall watch it

I still don’t think it’s fair to judge him bc we dont know the whole picture so i will give him the benefit of the doubt anyways

[cold cliff]

^

[sly python]

the picture: he went to countdown in hopes to meet newjeans again

[acoustic marsh]

Im not gonna make assumptions bc in truth we don’t know his relationship with the members so i guess let’s just hope in the future he’s giving less vibes of exploiting the fame of nj

[tawdry vessel]

faking facetiming with hanni, that should tell you about it

[sly python]

his relationship with the members: made a viral video which they saw + did collab tiktok video

[sly python]

if they had some sort of relationship, there would be no need for this

[waxen musk]

Again, watching the video will make it much clearer where his relationship with NewJeans starts and ends. He makes it clear himself.

[tawdry vessel]

yep

[acoustic marsh]

Ok im not defending him but like we don’t know their personal relationships tbf like it’s hard to judge when idk the full extent

[waxen musk]

I've never given so much promo to someone I don't want you to watch.

[acoustic marsh]

I was just curious as to what happened and wht is going on in the first place

[sly python]

that we know the relationship (or lack of) between them

[waxen musk]

I'm only here to understand people defending him or not seeing the sitaution as creepy. Everything else has gone way too far in terms of attacking him. It's disproportionate. However I will continue to be baffled by some people in this thread.

[acoustic marsh]

I agree

[mental lynx]

All I know is if I remember correctly Jason even thinks that he and the Girls arent friends he talked in the vlog with a friend about them getting tips and the friend asked him if he wants to be friends with them idk something like that and he smiled and said yea

[waxen musk]

At this point I feel like I should just recap the whole video so people don't have to watch it since people keep asking questions that can be very easily answered.

[acoustic marsh]

Do u know where i can find it?

[waxen musk]

Just search Jasontheween NewJeans on YouTube.

[tawdry vessel]

And how do you do it? Dont invade their privacy and kindly tell you want to meet them but he's acting like a creep stalker

[lucid yarrow]

i hope when u ever get to make a video or stream about Nj u dont get cancel this thing is kinda stupid

[tawdry vessel]

using someone's connection to invade the girls privacy is a nasty work.. and f those weirdos defending him

[tiny peak]

NJ has so many celebrities fans in Korea, and you'll never see any of them behave the way Jason did and live stream in a private area without their permission.

[waxen musk]

F it I'll do it for all of you. Give me 30 mins.

[mental lynx]

I agree it’s just for the guys who say they are friends when he even clearly thinks they are not

[waxen musk]

Stop focusing on starsnight I don't disagree with them at all and you're only focusing on them attacking them specifically over and over and it's annoying me now

[sly python]

its ok, ive accepted the fact u cant please everyone so just try to live life with good intentions & be respectful <3

[waxen musk]

Jesus lol says you

[mental lynx]

https://youtu.be/s36iJMtuuos?si=rMbn5X2D-sBb3wJ_
idk if it’s with the correct time stamp but here he asked his friend who already met celebs what to do

And for me it Sounds like he isnt Friends with them idk why People think they are that close

[cold cliff]

Yooo calm down😭

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tawdry vessel]

hes fake facetiming hanni, ofc they're not lmao

[short laurel]

Pls just block them if u find other person toxic.

[shy schooner]

You guys giving him too much attention

[flint stone]

Guys, it doesn't look like nj updates anymore, stop talking about Jason. We probably should ask mods to close this chat for some time

[mental lynx]

True

[flint stone]

Fact

[tawdry vessel]

lock the thread so we dont see weidos defending a creep who doesn't respect the girls boundaries and privacy

[short laurel]

I'll say it again. Kpop idols public image is very sensitive. Jason as a public figure himself should be careful of what he does n says about other public figures cuz even the smallest of jokes can be used to cancel idols.
Alot of people here not realise that everyone giving it attention is the reason accounts like sniper keep making weird posts for more drama.

[flint stone]

Omg, is there any mod to close this chat?

[short laurel]

Just block him n move on.

[flint stone]

<@&949025198852694046> close this chat please,it gets out of hand

[gentle badger]

[tawdry vessel]

[flint stone]

read chat, it's like a third time we talk about it in this chat. Don't bring it up again,pls

[short laurel]

Tbh i didn't read half the things. I m more shocked from the replies i got hours ago here n no one called that out. But now u worrying why we are not calling out others.

I was forced to move on. So now i say u move on too

[reef dawn]

I agree, seems like a pretty solid point to move on

[flint stone]

Because all trying to stop talking about it but someone keep bringing it up again and again

[flint stone]

Close this chat for some time please

[short laurel]

I was called out for insulting jason when i was insulting no one. No one bothered the weird behaviour n i was forced to move on. Now u do the same n move on.

[reef dawn]

I say we all drop the topic and move on

Its not gonna go anywhere

[tawdry vessel]

A creep and his defenders need to be called out so we dont normalise that disgusting behaviour. All i ask is to respect the girls as human beings and stop invading their privacy

[wind monolith]

😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 we get both points move on

[tawdry vessel]

lock the thread ✨️

[flint stone]

But they gonna talk about it again and again before this chat close

[wind monolith]

Take it to dms

[reef dawn]

And if they do they'll get timed out

[short laurel]

Ultimately i learned to just block people. Do the same n it'll be easier. Since this case doesn't matter or affected anyone in anyway. So both of u block each other n be done

[reef dawn]

So just drop it, move on

[flint stone]

There are gonna be others for sure, lock the thread 🙏

[dapper root]

the people want a lock we gotta lock

[flint stone]

Please 🙏

[tawdry vessel]

thank you damien

[wind monolith]

Locking it makes no sense but ok 👌 i could care less

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tawdry vessel]

ash no more typing lmfaoo

[waxen musk]

Just wanted to say sorry it's hard to read like that but none of you need to watch the video there's a full recap of it

[gentle badger]

Goat

[tawdry vessel]

@dapper root 🔐

[reef dawn]

yeah we trying threads are weird

[short laurel]

We should be angry at odor for inadequate security in airport in odor's schedule. But no one wanna talk about that.

[harsh dove]

@cato_o_o <t:1736147079:d>

:warning: Tweet with id 1876172092179390938 does not contain any media!

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1876172092179390938

So yeah, no mediation. This means, MHJ’s team conveyed that MHJ has no intention to settle… Basically the mediation failed. So this goes to court.

Is it good or bad? It is both good and bad.

It is good in a sense that this means, MHJ is not claiming guilt by apologizing and she is maintaining her stance against the ex-ADOR employee's allegations.

It is bad because this is playing into the SLAPP strategy that HYBE is using. This will take time and resources that will definitely be taxing for Daepyonim.

But right now, they got the ball in their hands and they have to have the legal burden to prove in court that MHJ defamed this "unknown employee."

If you all go back to the statements made by MHJ, it is important to consider whether she had the intent to defame or not. The law requires proving intent to defame for a conviction. Given the context, if the remarks were made to clarify her position and explain the situation rather than to defame, it may not constitute defamation. It started with edited KKT chat logs leaked by Dispatch, if that did not exist, MHJ didn't have to clear her name. Context is key.

[stiff prairie]

use ryujin when there's no media

[waxen musk]

Yeah I don't know what I'm doing.

I think @juantokki explains the situation pretty well.

[red thorn]

Probably hybe pursue the discovery IF they truly behind this

[tardy smelt]

is it just me that doesn't remember that there was anything MHJ's said publicly about emp B that could be considered defamatory?

[lucid yarrow]

huh defame i thought this was about her doing bad job with ahem sa case now she defaming her what is this bs man they love throwing dirt see what hits a

[storm warren]

it all depends on sk's defamation laws which afaik even if u said truth, can hold u accountable for defamation

i dont expect mhj to win defamation cases actually, as the intent is not to judge which side is true

[stiff prairie]

it goes both ways actually

mhj also filed for defamation. so did exec A. and all parties have been defamed

[storm warren]

yes, which is irony of all

and basically will speak volumes about this law

if for example belift wins their case and then mhj wins countersuit

[stiff prairie]

they are consolidated tho. belift somu sue countersue i mean

[red thorn]

On the afternoon of the 6th, the Seoul Western District Court held the first mediation date for a lawsuit for damages worth 100 million won filed by Mr. A against former CEO Min Hee-jin for defamation based on false facts.
Mr. A’s side has stated that they are willing to agree to mediation if former Chairman Min admits his wrongdoings and apologizes, and they conveyed the same position today. Regardless of the amount, they stated that they were willing to agree to mediation if former Chairman Min “expressed regret to Mr. A for his unilateral actions of taking one side or for disclosing private legal situations and conversations without permission.”
According to B (A in that article), those evidence mhj disclosed about her are false

[tardy smelt]

ah okay, gotcha

[storm warren]

belift only i think. i dont think she countersued soumu. did she

[stiff prairie]

from what i know besides this one ( w employee B and exec A) all the other defamation ones are consolidated. but i think shareholder's agreement validity one will be a different hearing

[storm warren]

yeah thats main case (shareholder's one). defamations are fodder cases to financially drain her and damage her reputation further

[stiff prairie]

yeah but her shareholder's case will lose strength ~when~ if she is proved guilty on defamation cases. like hybe will claim because of defamation we had to terminate the agreement so and so

[storm warren]

i dont think so

[short laurel]

Assume mhj losses. But it wasn't proven n hybe terminated her be4 that. Wouldn't that be a problem for hybe then?

[stiff prairie]

I'm just trying to have a pessimistic pov. Even if mhj's action is proven defamatory long after, hybe will claim she took those defamatory actions before so that's why they did it and court just agreed to it later on.

[flint stone]

They opened audition

[hoary frost]

Im hoping they r not planning to debut new members under the name Newjeans

[flint stone]

I don't think they will

[warm shard]

They would ruin these kids futures if they did that

[flint stone]

They don't really care about it

[hoary frost]

Seeing Hybe, that is a move they have in their books

[flint stone]

I mean, no one can really stop them, but they will give real NewJeans more chances to win their ip

[short laurel]

no. using name newjeans on new group will have huge backlash on hybe. public already on their throat. but so far hybe has been trying to cover their bs since everything that happened is more internal and whatever is in public is mostly he says she says. but this would be very public and not something they would get away with easily with kpopies attack.

• they still insist on girls still under contract. so having new group under same name while they claim girls still under them would harm their case more.

(pls don't mind my broken english)

[stable escarp]

I wonder if theyll go thru with Hype Boy as a group name

[acoustic marsh]

I doubt they’ll use new jeans as their name seeing as the weight tht comes with it in the public’s eyes… but let’s just see where it goes bc now ador has 0 artists and they’re scrambling so hard to have something

[short laurel]

also since they are recurting now. means it'll take couple months. then 1-2 more years in training. hope everything will be done by then.

[south vale]

atleast debut their boy group then?

[flint stone]

they have boy group?

[south vale]

yeah

[flint stone]

[lament delta]

Why are you so pressed that a person disagreed with your opinion and is speaking the literal truth?

[south vale]

they do audition for boys in 2019

and still hiding those

[tardy smelt]

pls don’t revive that conversation

[flint stone]

2019? ador didn't exist in 2019

[lament delta]

Nah I don't wanna but I just wanted to ask that question

[south vale]

Oops mb

[flint stone]

go to dm then, don't start it here again

[south vale]

2023

[flint stone]

we don't wanna this chat to be closed again

[flint stone]

they had audition in 2023?

[south vale]

yeah

[flint stone]

hmm, then they might not sign the contracts and after drama happened left

[south vale]

Wait,isn’t all trainees have to sign contract even they debut or not?

[flint stone]

i don't know how it works, but i think when they debut they have to sign new contract

[south vale]

Hmm maybe,but I don’t think they leave company just wait good time to debut

[flint stone]

good time? in hybe,aka odor?

last time they tried to copy Nj, with boy group they might think that copy bts is a good idea

[south vale]

[acoustic marsh]

If all the trainees left for the other big companies im gonna laugh my ass off

Ador starting back from 0, 2025 let’s goooo

[cerulean lake]

smh i’m just so tired of all this drama 🥲

we could’ve had so much in 2024 and it’s sad whenever i think abt it

need to occupy myself w some other entertainment source rn like squid games 😫

[hoary frost]

The “Hybe boys” in each of the Hybe boy mvs were the trainees

[cerulean lake]

i don’t think so bc one of the actors responded on ig and they were just casted for that

[hoary frost]

Oh it was js a rumor thn

[cerulean lake]

plus he has a gf and trainees don’t usually have gfs otherwise it’s another situation like w seunghan

yeah probably just a rumor no one has actually seen the alleged trainees

[short laurel]

ador announced audition for BG long after hype boy release. so it's not them.

[sly python]

i thought they were busy supporting NJ's?

[flint stone]

it's them trying to help

[sly python]

[waxen musk]

I saw that the new audition imagery is the same as they've used before in 2023 except for a change in background colour. I thought I recognised it.

There also used to be a lower limit on ages, in 2023 that was 2011 (12 year olds) and in early 2024 it was still 2011 (13 year olds). Now there's no lower limit so I guess 7 years olds can audition.

But I do stupidly hope this is them moving on from NewJeans. I know that's not the case I'm just joking.

Also I guess I stopped expecting "Media Play Mondays" and instead I will just assume HYBE will just be ready for whenever there's something that goes against them for them to counter with and distract, like we've seen so many times.

[lucid yarrow]

if they make another Ggroup i hope they aren't dumb enough to make one with extract same concept as NJ but u have Bang the copy king and Bethief seated at ador and they wasted all that money on NJ they got to put it to use they can recycle Phoning and give it to these 2new fraudor group too lol.....

[waxen musk]

I do wonder who will be left at ADOR with so many staff have made it clear they'll be following NewJeans with whatever they'll do next. Does ADOR really hold any meaningful brand power that a new subsidiary (or the same one) with a new name would give?

It already seems like HYBE stans are totally on board with supporting all the new girl groups coming out of HYBE this year, just automatically before knowing anything, and see them doing the same for these ADOR auditions.

[short laurel]

billie eilish concept he originally wanted for nj.

[waxen musk]

I get it though, they produce music people like and have plenty of fans, it's just insane to support them simply because of the company they're behind above all else though. That's what I will not get. If it was specific producers or something it'd make more sense. Just company stans being company stans.

[short laurel]

Someone people might not like it but when nj debuted n got big so quickly. Other fandoms were hating using mhj sm days rumours but it was hybe stans protecting nj. It's reversed now though.
I think the same will happen with odor's new group.

[acoustic marsh]

This is a bit out of topic but do u think the members will still live together since their schedule is pretty much done for now?

[cosmic belfry]

Probably easier to find separate housing and/or live with family.

[waxen musk]

I mean we literally know nothing. People are assuming their last living arrangement was in possestion of ADOR/HYBE, when I don't know if we can even assume that.

[acoustic marsh]

We shall see then

I was just thinking because hanni & dani’s families are in australia and we don’t even know if they’re able to come home yet if they are waiting for some more legal matters with ador

Just me thinking out loud

[waxen musk]

Dani at least has a family house in Korea, with a small music studio. But yeah Hanni I'm pretty sure she doesn't. Yeah we all think out loud here, especially me lol.

[acoustic marsh]

Ya which makes me think if they were to stay in seoul they would probably rent a place or smtg until everything gets sorted out

🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️ i can’t wait for 2025 to be yr for bunnies and them

[waxen musk]

It's all for the best in the end.

[jade jolt]

Im pretty sure their house was bought with their money or at least i don t think it s hybe or ador property

[acoustic marsh]

oh damn where did u see this from?

[jade jolt]

Ive seen a lot of people say this that it doesn’t belong to ador nor hybe

Tho it might be a miss information we will see it in the future ig

[stiff prairie]

I have a strong suspicion that their last house was bought using ador money because the only live call we got from them was from a car. Maybe they're not showing their new house/rooms cause it's not as luxurious as the one before and don't wanna make the fans sad/worried by showing it.

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/hygracelee/status/1876101845946667140

[harsh dove]

@hygracelee <t:1736132511:d>

newjeans to these new trainees

[stoic heron]

or they're in a big ass mansion and they don't want people talking about it

[waxen musk]

Does anyone remember how often they went live on Phoning from where they lived before their previous place? I almost suspect we haven't seen them go live more than once outside of a car trip on Instagram because of this.

Anyway it's really none of our business and I'm sure they're fine either way.

[stiff prairie]

you're a glass is half full kinda person i see. hope you're right tho

[stiff prairie]

their live numbers dropped drastically after ador bod kicked out mhj. before that ppl didn't have any chance to miss them lol

[waxen musk]

I was asking how often they went live from the place they lived like in 2022 and 2023, before their living conditions where we saw their rooms all the time nearer the end of 2023 and all of 2024. All I can remember is them going live from the company building and never from where they lived until after they moved nearer the end of 2023.

[stiff prairie]

oh. it was still decent amount of times iirc. most of them had two members at the same time

[waxen musk]

Hmm I don't remember. I'm trying to find on TikkiTokki an example.

[stiff prairie]

you're talking about the dorm room lives right? core memory would include dani's rock eating or minji feeding hanni yogurt etc

[waxen musk]

Maybe my memory is mixing up original dorm and second dorm. I don't know lol.

Every dorm live in my memory is from the second dorm, but I don't trust my memory at all.

I don't even remember anything about yogurt.

[stiff prairie]

i think i'm talking about 2nd dorm myself cause i think by the time i became a stan (watching lives as whole instead of short funny yt clips) they might have already moved idk

[waxen musk]

The rocks live was in October 2023 so I think that was the second dorm.

Anyway my point is they only ever went live from their second dorm or the company building or in the car. Never in their first dorm or family homes (on video ofc).

Actually I think Haerin went live from her family home one time.

[stiff prairie]

you defo seen it even if not the full live. in one live minji asks hanni if she ate dinner and hanni looks away saying i'm not hungry man and the next live minji had a yogurt ready to go to feed her during the live

[waxen musk]

How do I not remember.

[stiff prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxg4mv2RdLk

[waxen musk]

Yeah I don't remember that at all.
I don't remember where that was from but they've gone live from so many hotel rooms, too.

Because we haven't seen them go live outside of a car we can't determine if their second dorm still exists or not. All that yapping to come to that conclusion.

[stiff prairie]

yeah anyways i'm not really worried that much about it. they're probably having family time rn so lives would come after a while ig

[waxen musk]

Yeah I didn't consider they'd might have a break after all the performances until I saw Dani's posts today.

Even when they do get busy again, I wonder what that would entail for them directly because it really seems like so much of the setting up of everything would be out of their hands.

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1876564754141188202

[narrow seal]

250107 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1876564754141188202
Several individuals recently shared on Instiz that they received messages from the South Korean police regarding alleged violations of the "Unfair Competition Prevention and Trade Secret Protection Act." The messages appear to be part of an effort to track down those who uploaded

[tardy smelt]

wild

[jolly junco]

that whistleblower will be dead when HYBE find them

[acoustic marsh]

wait what happened?

[tardy smelt]

basically, HYBE are using the police to find out who leaked their internal reports a few months ago

[jolly junco]

while they promised the NA that they wont pursue who was behind this leaked documents

[tardy smelt]

they say a lot of things

[short laurel]

they even said the internal report is collection of online comments. now it's trade secret ?

[mild mist]

Well they also admitted that it was a Hybe created document

[red thorn]

They don't actually listen NA
Probably being told the protocol just to be submissive, 'bowing down and say yes yes when being scolded'

[short laurel]

i need jeff to report on this.

[waxen musk]

~t https://x.com/catzkang/status/1876585129155653898?s=46

[wind monolith]

Wait this is old or recent

[hushed whale]

is this the 1st injunction ruling?

[waxen musk]

I still don’t know what’s going on people just starting talking about it.

[wind monolith]

This is huge if true

[waxen musk]

(Also I still don’t know what’s going on to use when pasting Twitter links lol)

[wind monolith]

Dw i will never understand that either

[waxen musk]

Never goes how I want. Text still cut off.

[wind monolith]

Bro if im getting played here imma cry cuz this is so big

[stable escarp]

Whatever this is i think this calls for me to finally watch a newjeans zine ive been saving

[hoary frost]

I feel like our reaction is too nonchalant like guys she won it

[tardy smelt]

eh

[hoary frost]

Expected this but lowk this is some nonchalant reaction right here LOL

[hushed whale]

its old why ppl posting it now

[wind monolith]

[stable escarp]

I feel like cos its so random and out of nowhere? and is this even new stuff?

[waxen musk]

I’m not ready to react until I see more people talking about it on Twitter.

[wind monolith]

Ya thats what im wondering is it new or old

[tardy smelt]

this was posted in June last year?

no wait

[hoary frost]

Oh it says May 30th

Yeah its old

[wind monolith]

I knew we were getting played☠️

[red thorn]

Is that 1st injunction verdict

[waxen musk]

Why do people do this on Twitter? It’s so easy to see it’s old.

[wind monolith]

Prbly

[waxen musk]

I’m sorry for posting it here too quickly.

[wind monolith]

Back to waiting stage

[stable escarp]

Maybe reviving the truth

[waxen musk]

Only thing I didn’t know from back then was Hybe having to pay legal fees.

[hushed whale]

but I saw some people back then saying there was a limit, so hybe didn't have to pay much for mhj legal fees

[tardy smelt]

yeah, this is definitely about the first injunction

[waxen musk]

lol let’s pretend that didn’t happen. Nothing to see here.

[tardy smelt]

< me getting my hopes up

[red thorn]

Smoothbrain moment happens

[hushed whale]

Still the 1st injunction win was huge

[tardy smelt]

they deleted it

[waxen musk]

Can they delete my post and all put reactions above, too?

[orchid field]

1 WIN LETS GOOO

[wind monolith]

Um

[modern fog]

purge

[orchid field]

did we not win

[wind monolith]

No that is from the first injuction which was a while back like may i think

Nothing has happened recently

[orchid field]

still a win

[storm warren]

I mean there was not any court hearing scheduled guys so how would we get new ruling out of thin air?

only hearing we know of is belift defamation case on jan 10th.

k-bunnies reposted 1st injunction ruling due to mediaplay from TV Daily

it seems int bunnies thought it was new

[orchid field]

OH so its not new, damn it

[stiff prairie]

me reading thru 🤨 😃 😕 🙁 😮‍💨

[orchid field]

the day twt tokkies collective were incapable of reading a document's date

[pulsar wasp]

what’s an “int bunny”?

[orchid field]

international bunnies

[pulsar wasp]

o … could’ve just continued with the “ ‘l ” to complete the abbreviation haha

[cerulean lake]

we all know they’re all yap and no action

[split bramble]

no honor among thieves

[stiff prairie]

but this should have legal repercussions no? like purjury and stuff. since NA talks are under oath and everything

[cerulean lake]

yeah but the gov is corrupt as heck and would probably protect hybe 😑

[stiff prairie]

probably so 😮‍💨