NJZ Updates and Discussion

[heady gate]

I am wondering would there be any artists going to join HYBE in the future.

[thorny knot]

there are a lot of people who just want to be idols and don't care what company they end up at so sadly yeah

[short laurel]

Also Hybe is major shareholder of ador but is still a separate entity, they are considered 3rd party.
If hybe insist of being a 1st party then hybe's internal report is enough proof to invalidate the contract, since both party not wanted to work together. Ofc hybe wanted to be the one to do it, but they did not like artists did it 1st, but the ministry of labour said that companies n artists are equal partners so artists are equally entitled to do same as companies.

[short laurel]

When loona was out. Trainees still joined bbc. That's how bad the current state there is unfortunately. N hybe does bring more noise.

[thorny knot]

from what i remember she was part of loona's team too and had to deal with that stuff too

[short laurel]

Mhj was nvr with loona though?

[thorny knot]

i know she at least used what she learned from the loona situation for newjeans contracts and so on

[short laurel]

Ooh sure yea. We still don't actually know what the contract between nj n ador is btw

[thorny knot]

i swear she had some involvement in some way, could be wrong

[short laurel]

Not really. Mhj was in sm be4 hybe

[thorny knot]

hmm then it had to be one of the sm groups can't recall which one

[short laurel]

F(x) ?

[jolly junco]

no, LSM was involved in Loona album before

[thorny knot]

all we know is the contract doesn't fall under the "slave contract" type that's common in k-pop

[tiny peak]

Loona had a different weirdo creative director. Jaden Jeong

[jolly junco]

its has nothing to do with MHJ

[short laurel]

Jaden now founded mudhouse. Some ex loona members with him.

[thorny knot]

hmm not sure i'm pretty sure she mentioned it once before tho

[high totem]

-rule7

[tall dew]

Keep any external/private drama out of this server. This includes: drama related to NewJeans, drama related to other idols, and drama related to yourself.

[tiny peak]

drama related to NewJeans 😭

[high totem]

i saw

[tawdry vessel]

it's just sad to see some nj fans wanting nj to stay with hybe despite the mistreatment and sabotage

[thorny knot]

i wasn't talking about loona

[hoary frost]

They are not nj fans

[tawdry vessel]

trueee

[thorny knot]

she mentioned loona and another group from when she worked at sm face mistreatment and said she had that in mind when making the girls contracts, i was trying to figure out the group under sm cause i couldn't remember

[tiny peak]

newjeans were never one to stick with the status quo, and that includes being obedient slaves to a company. literally here to change the kpop industry (no shade)

[tiny peak]

that is really interesting. it can't be loona since they were never under SM, but would love to know more about this

[thorny knot]

well yes it's not loona but she stated loona was one inspiration for the way she wrote the contract and she mentioned a group from sm that also faced mistreatment

from what i recall

[lapis vapor]

it's just sad to see some nj fans going straight to their defense instead of assessing the situation properly 💔

(not an open-ended discussion)

[tawdry vessel]

you want nj to stay with hybe til 2029 and continue to be mistreated and sabotaged, get the hell out with that assessing the situation properly bs

[lapis vapor]

It was sarcastic, but alright. I do have a valid point though. Mistreatment is better than being completely blasted by the whole industry. Staying with Hybe till the period in which they can renew the contract is the best choice. They can cleanly cut off relations with Hybe.

[tawdry vessel]

ban this dude

@modern fog

[lapis vapor]

I've received exclusive permission from a moderator to share my opinion. @high totem "either way we wont ban you for sharing your opinions in the thread "

[wind monolith]

ah yes be put in the basement until 2029 W idea

[lapis vapor]

Having a different opinion isn't bannable dude.

[high totem]

what is going on 😭

[tawdry vessel]

you're basically saying it's okay for nj members to be mistreated, that deserves a ban

[lapis vapor]

I have a different opinion, starsnights wants me OUT.

[tiny peak]

they aren't here to "share an opinon" they are here to troll and harass everyone here

[lapis vapor]

if you scroll up, we had a similar discussion. I am sharing my opinion.

[tiny peak]

so ignore them please

[lapis vapor]

Yes, ignore me if you don't like my opinion. @tawdry vessel you blocked me, so just do it again 🤷‍♂️

[tawdry vessel]

[lapis vapor]

🤓

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/no-one-cares-meme-memes-gif-25389130

[modern fog]

"mistreatment is better than—" what.

[lapis vapor]

its kinda like a slap on the wrist is better than execution

[modern fog]

and you being sarcastic in this thread so yeah you're just a waste of time.

[lapis vapor]

I was sarcastic in dms. Not in this thread. Please do your research correctly 🤦‍♂️ I can't with yall.

[shut kelp]

he got "exclusive permission from a moderator" who damien?

[high totem]

imo just because mistreatment is common in the industry doesn't make it okay or better than being ignored by the industry
their overall wellbeing is more important than awards and recognition

[hoary frost]

Ik ure scared of the girls being blacklisted by the industry for spreaking out against their company or smth but does it sit right w u tht they r actl being mistreated and in ur words, they shld endure 5 more years of that mistreatment whn all they want 2 do is make music? Like literally u cn support them in their decision n bravery like a normal person uk theyre not gg anywhr, dont b afraid, Jeanz never die

[lapis vapor]

its not okay of course, but somethings gotta put the food on the table. I'm being serious with this statement.

[hoary frost]

They’re well off, all they want 2 do is sing n dance

[modern fog]

the point still stands. okay so you're being sarcastic with the situation. now what? 😭

[lapis vapor]

It was in dms, are you gonna mute me again for that?

[high totem]

i think i can see where youre coming from, but they still have parents who are probably able to help them out

[wind monolith]

ur acting like they are broke, they have many other opportunities in life. Being mistreated is not ok no matter what

[high totem]

the members are all still pretty young

[hoary frost]

Im not understanding ur opinion, r u some type of sadist

[modern fog]

no but I'm just going to ignore you since like I said you're just a waste of time

bye

[wind monolith]

if im at work and being mistreated im not gonna just eat it up and continue my life

[tawdry vessel]

bro is a coward, probably experienced mistreatment aand couldn't stand up for himself. I'm glad to stan a brave group.

[lapis vapor]

👏

[high totem]

and newjeans has a lot of fans and supporters, im sure they will continue to find success whether they are under a label or not

[lapis vapor]

Straight to the assumptions. I guess I can do the same thing. bro is a coward, probably experienced severe bullying and could only watch the "just say no" videos and block me without successfully ending the debate in dms 😭

[lapis vapor]

Depends on the country actually. In some east asian countries, most people retain the same company for most of their lives.

[lapis vapor]

like South Korea and Japan

[lapis vapor]

older generations though, not newer generations.

holy YAP, its been like 2 minutes of constant typing. I'm just gonna put this out there, I'm not reading allat.

[tawdry vessel]

okay let's be real then and ask you a question then, if your company mistreated and sabotaged you, would you be a bitch coward and stay or get out?

[lapis vapor]

are they paying me good? Am I legally obligated to stay there for the next few years? Did they build my whole career and give me numerous opportunities that made me who I am today?

[tawdry vessel]

yes

[lapis vapor]

Oh, then I'm staying.

[tawdry vessel]

so you're a coward and a bitch

[red thorn]

"assessing the situation properly"
With disregarded the assessment of members' perspective?
Unbiased Truth? I don't think it's possible for this case, for this case we form our judgment/opinion based he said she said evidence and some valid to questionable fact/data or even over dislike or favour on a party/person
Unbiased, it's a facade

[lapis vapor]

No, I'm smart and rational. They putting food on the tables.

[shut kelp]

he has no morals guys 😂

[modern fog]

holy shit

insane

[tardy smelt]

lock this thread man, it's devolving into name calling

[wind monolith]

ah a and sabotaged you right whe u debuted

[modern fog]

you're the type of person that newjeans is fighting for

[shut kelp]

which mod gave him permissions to say that tho 😂

[tiny peak]

locking the thread is what the troll wants, but oh well

[modern fog]

I feel bad for you

[wind monolith]

thread was fine till someone says being mistreated is fine

[dapper root]

damn

[modern fog]

respect yo self dude 😭

[lapis vapor]

someone gets it. The bills need to be paid somehow.

[hoary frost]

Real like hv some respect 4 urself 🤣

[hushed whale]

[lapis vapor]

The Constitution 😭

[dapper root]

[shut kelp]

ur not older than 16

[hoary frost]

Nah age isnt it, js isnt in the right mind u feel me

[shut kelp]

i might have just read the most stupidest thing said on this discord

[lapis vapor]

lets say I'm NewJeans. I'm being paid 4x their salary (maybe even more) while they are getting mistreated even more than me. I'm staying until I no longer need to.

[tawdry vessel]

you can always go find another job that will treat you well damn bro lmfao

[modern fog]

It's not about the MONEY 😭😭😭

bro

[wind monolith]

ya ur cooked its all about money for u

[modern fog]

holy

i wanna talk to yo parents

[lapis vapor]

Not if I'm legally obligated to stay there 😭

[high totem]

newjeans is young, they have more chances in the future

[hoary frost]

“Whos gna carry the boats” omg

[high totem]

leaving hybe isnt the end of their career

[shut kelp]

it is cos this person hasnt had a J O B EVER

[lapis vapor]

Heh... Money, Power, Fame. Thats what makes the world run.

[vague shore]

Only if we have competent mods

[hoary frost]

Heh… 😎😝😏

[tawdry vessel]

nj is obligated to terminate the contract also, hence why they are free now 🤷

[lapis vapor]

Oh, but I have. Btw, what industry do you work in?

[shut kelp]

man stop talking to me

[lapis vapor]

@shut kelp why the HELL would I lie about having had a job.

[dapper root]

why are we just going with personal insults now

[hoary frost]

LOL we got 2 now

[jolly junco]

[cosmic belfry]

HYBE bended the legal system to get MHJ out. What's wrong with NJ bending the legal system to also get out.

Doing it this way lets them be independent sooner and then deal with lawsuit while being independent. They're going to be tangled in lawsuits eitherway.

[lapis vapor]

Yeah, why.

[shut kelp]

they both friends

[dapper root]

wait i have a great solution

[high totem]

lock the thread

[wind monolith]

ya if thats how u think ur not def normal im taking my mental/health over anything

[dapper root]

see you both in an hour

[modern fog]

noo not yet

[high totem]

that works too

[jolly junco]

https://imgur.com/4QmPLkD

[hoary frost]

LOL

[cosmic belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948917132459130940/1302379768557338736/togif.gif

[dapper root]

issue solved

[modern fog]

I really feel bad for bro

[dapper root]

idk what he was even yapping about i just got the mod ping

i didnt backread

[high totem]

all these immature kids

[tiny peak]

i don't feel bad, they are here to troll

[hoary frost]

Can we get an F for him sometimes I wish things were different for him uk

[tawdry vessel]

okay maybe no lmao

[jolly junco]

how can having to endure mistreatment are better than speak up and be free?

[high totem]

especially when they have the chance to leave

[red thorn]

There will be no point in discussion
It's a matter trust and no trust in nj

[wind monolith]

he thinks its all about money and power shows how he thinks

[modern fog]

they think it's about the money 💀

like bro even without Hybe newjeans got that bag

[jolly junco]

a lot of idols went thru mental stress from having mistreatment in the industry that we didnt know of

[high totem]

a lot of groups are unfortunately stuck under their company but newjeans can leave
so they should leave when they have the chance

[hoary frost]

He has the same mindset as a certain someone

[dapper root]

shade :(

[tardy smelt]

bro doesn't value joy at all in his life 💀 soulless mf

[tawdry vessel]

are you bang pd

[hoary frost]

BSH LOL no ones talking abt u 😭

[jolly junco]

back to topic!!

look at jeanzforfree, they are sooooo happy to be free
it makes us smile too seeing them this happy

[dapper root]

never saw me in and bang in the same room

jeanzforfree is the best thing ever

[modern fog]

i love newjeanz

[tiny peak]

2.5 million followers in a few days. posts with 1M+ engagement. they might be okay

[jolly junco]

i'm always so excited whenever i got ping from jeanzforfree

[high totem]

they reply to a lot of messages right

[hoary frost]

I follow too many ppl I literally have to search for them every minute

[jolly junco]

a lot! they felt like just your ordinary friend on instagram

[modern fog]

wow thread cleanse

[tiny peak]

never seen kpop idols so free and yeah sometimes ridiculous. NJ is always daring to be different

[high totem]

nice that they are able to interact with fans freely

[dapper root]

i love that they can just post whatever

[jolly junco]

*x https://x.com/phamhanni1006/status/1868256143686214077

[harsh dove]

@phamhanni1006 <t:1734261949:d>

[hoary frost]

“I miss u”
“Oh!”

[jolly junco]

how can you talk with an idol like this? this is super rare..... we should enjoy it

[hoary frost]

They talk like my friends at sch Ditto is hitting hard

[tiny peak]

NJ and old ADOR was never purely about money. yes they did make a lot of it, but they always prioritized artistic integrity and care for their fans first. NJ actions are consistent with what they've always believed in.

[tardy smelt]

latest ig story is in the usual practice room. imma just assume the pic is old because i don't understand how they'd be using the usual rooms if it's from just now.

[jolly junco]

we need to dig out their old content and mix match their outfit

[tardy smelt]

none of them were wearing that beanie in their outing today so must be old

[cosmic belfry]

I don't think using the practice room is a gotcha, they have obligations to fulfill on behalf of ADOR/HYBE so that's part of the deal.

[red thorn]

It's possible it was post/few days after jeans zine camp yt content

[hoary frost]

Its possible its the same jacket Danielle wore on the outing the colour looks similar

[tardy smelt]

i'm just saying i'm not understanding how they'd come to an agreement to use those facilities if they're on bad terms, if that were the case

[cosmic belfry]

If they refuse to let them use it, they would be conceding they're no longer under ADOR or they're not providing sufficient resources.

[tardy smelt]

makes sense, but it's lowkey taking advantage of that logic, no? (again, if that were the case)

i'm just gonna disclaim that idgaf if it was the case, f ADOR, i'm just cautious about anything that'll potentially backfire

[cosmic belfry]

We can only speculate. They've been very sensitive on the legal part. Given the exact deadlines that elapse between events. eg. two weeks after contract termination, they opened IG. They're aware of potential issues.

Using facilities to practice for upcoming performances that were previously signed under ADOR makes sense.

[short laurel]

I had fr from this account few days ago lol

[short laurel]

F(x)

[tardy smelt]

i trust their judgement. though i do disagree on it making sense still buuut there's a severe lack of details we have so i'll let time answer my questions.

[thorny knot]

Ok Ty

[short laurel]

I think that "unbiased" guy didn't read my msg. N what food on the table? Hybe were going to put them on hiatus for 1.5 years right when nj were peaking, nj hasn't even reached their full peak yet.

No activities means no money. So his point gets invalidated right there

N I'll say it again. Non of us are legal experts in korean law. We don't know if there method is right or wrong. Most korean laywers are leaning on nj side, while other korean lawyer straight up called them stupid which is disappointing to c cuz a proper lawyer wouldn't call them that, but that lawyer was working for hybe so who knows.
At the end of day it's up to court to decide if nj method was right or wrong, opinion of intl fans n "lawyers" means nothing.

Whoever loses will have to pay fines, but at the end of the day the 2 parties are now saperate

[tardy smelt]

man, that decision is so far away. it's gonna be the most important day in this entire saga. but until then, we enjoy freejeans and save our stress for when the actual day comes.

[short laurel]

I hope people here upvoted the community post link i shared here yesterday

[stiff prairie]

We had another fight here?

[waxen musk]

I'm reading through this thread now. "Mistreatment is better than being completely blasted by the whole industry." I assume that person would completely disagree with this amazing video I saw: https://x.com/newjeattention/status/1868033569534390763

miumiu (@newjeattention) on X

holy shit he ate

Twitter · Dec 14, 2024, 8:41 PM

[short laurel]

A troll

[tardy smelt]

i saw this video on my feed earlier. love a person with morals and a spine.

[stiff prairie]

Too late but imo fights should go in off topic. Everytime a fight continues and this thread gets locked and I'm tired of it.

[short laurel]

Not a fight like that. Mods were with us. Dw

[stiff prairie]

Ohh ok but still

[high totem]

just stop fighting

[short laurel]

Ok

[stiff prairie]

[short laurel]

Me more active here than main channel.

[stiff prairie]

Bye bye for me here until smth comes from hybe. Since Monday and everything

[midnight zodiac]

I think Unbiased Truth is seeing this as just a job that pays the bills like any other job and nothing more. But for NJ and probably most artists, it's about so much more than money. For them, it's their passion for music and their dream of expressing their creativity and sharing it with the world. It's not just about making a living. It's about creating something they can be proud of and that truly represents who they are. Hybe/Ador was sabotaging that. And from NJ's perspective, their contract allowed them to terminate if they were being mistreated. If your job is making you miserable and you can quit your job to find something better, why wouldn't you? Also saying that they're getting blasted by the whole industry isn't entirely true. We've seen artists, idols, and even brands showing support for NJ. Standing up for yourself always comes with pushback especially when it's not the norm. They already knew this was coming. Overall they're doing the more meaningful thing by fighting for what they think is right

[jolly junco]

some people just dont really care about fame and power, money of course are the basic needs for everything in this world

but they just want to enjoy what they want to do, if they can do that, who are we and everyone else to judge it?

[waxen musk]

I think when it comes to music and artistry, I doubt many people have the same opinion as the person from earlier. Well that was until I learned about how HYBE operated over the course of this year.

[midnight zodiac]

i also get staying in a job even when you're mistreated just to make money. but that's not really ideal in the long term. as i get older, i realize money and fame and power doesn't really bring true happiness. while it can buy things, it doesn't give a sense of fulfillment. you need meaning and purpose in life too. that's why i'm so very happy that the girls are prioritizing their passion and dreams. they're choosing to do something meaningful that truly matters to them. and that's incredibly inspiring

[half knot]

at this point the girls are financially supporting their parents

so in a sense, if the parents are establishing a new company, it would be with the girls' own money that they have control over

[stiff prairie]

Haerin and Hyein doesn't manage their own money, parents does. And how close hanni and Dani is w their family I think their parents have a big say in their finances too I think. Minji already seems like a very responsible person. So it's basically same thing family or the girls themselves.

[short laurel]

Not to mention the oldest among them is 20. They still have long ways to go be4 worrying about adulting.

[tardy smelt]

everything you've said is true especially this. i'm at a point in my life where i'm finally pursuing the things i wanna pursue. i spent so many years focused on my career that i regret because those years weren't fulfilling. i absolutely do not want the girls to regret any of their younger years.

[half knot]

I just meant the parents wouldn't have to put in any personal finances into it if the girls already have enough funds for establishing and managing a small company

[stiff prairie]

Tbh using their own money is ok for now w legal issues or starting a label and stuff. But for MV production and all that they'd need to secure funds and sponsorship etc. but that's talk for later. And creative ppl can bring out best results even with limited budget so I'm not worrying that much.

[jolly junco]

nowdays you can still make a good music with limited budget, and just green screen

look at cookie !

[half knot]

yeah I'm not sure what kind of budget you're thinking of for a MV

[hoary frost]

They can do a Logan Paul quality music video

[jolly junco]

kpop are on a whole different level when making MV than western music, they spend millions $$ just for the MV

[half knot]

I don't think it's in the millions range very often

[stiff prairie]

tbh i like outdoor stuff more. super shy or how sweet like mvs. a bit of nice place and stuff. but i'll happy to have hurt or asap style too. just get them near hannan river and have a few drone shots and i'll be satisfied lol

[half knot]

otherwise comebacks would not be possible for most nugu and mid-range company idols

[tardy smelt]

Hurt cost an hour and a sandwich to make

[jolly junco]

well yeah not every groups spend that much

[half knot]

maybe YG used to spend that kind of money on Blackpink

[midnight zodiac]

i feel like their music video could be just them hanging out and we'd love it

[half knot]

a lot of the NJ music video costs were likely due to their locations and the staffing they had to take with them or hire on location

[stiff prairie]

probably lol. just zoom into the girls and bunnies will be happy lmao

[hoary frost]

Mjnji MV

[jolly junco]

yeah that laufey MV style, thats good too

its very NJ style

[tardy smelt]

shit i'd be content with that. just give us cut footage from a crappy camcorder and we're set.

[half knot]

there are a lot of ways they can make it work

not every MV needs a thousand extras in the background, renowned models or actors, 12 different sets and six city blocks reserved on foreign soil

[stiff prairie]

shoot normally and then encode the vid into grainy ahh 480p lmao. anything can be aesthetic

[half knot]

they used to do it like that because a) they were guaranteed return on their investment and b) ador was run by MHJ and didn't want its revenues being siphoned off by HYBE so she'd spend good money on NJ content, and really c) because they could.

[tardy smelt]

hold on now, Tony Leung got on set for free, maybe we can pull some strings again

[half knot]

true! he probably didn't even know why he was there.

[midnight zodiac]

we got connections

[stiff prairie]

funny but it's true.

[tardy smelt]

they captured bro while he was just tryna cross the street

[heady gate]

I noticed we have a troll in this sub every week.

[red thorn]

The most core is still fixed infrastructure+facility (recording studio, room practice, office, housing, etc.) maybe can't be equal as before but similar

[stiff prairie]

part of the game. we have almost 60k members. not all of them are bunnies

[half knot]

MHJ can go back to her roots of doing box MVs like SM used to be well known for

[short laurel]

Nj had same budget as another hybe group yet we got mv for all songs n multiple mv's for some. Mhj knows how use funds better than other label who keep saying mhj took their money lol

[half knot]

ador chose not to do any MV ads on youtube, that's a massive expense usually that they were saving money on

[hoary frost]

I will eat another Minji Mv up

[half knot]

for example, last I checked, it was $2000 per 100K ad views if you were targetting US audience

[short laurel]

Yea so much goes into promotion. Hybe's other label probably spend all the budget on ads

[stiff prairie]

we don't really use ads. only one i know of is supernatural got .5M or 5M on ads

[heady gate]

I am wondering which platform of ads is HYBE using? Is it YT, TT or else?

[stiff prairie]

YT for mvs

[short laurel]

Yt n Spotify

Even on ig i kept getting hybe group while looking at other kpop groups 😭 i hope it was just bugged.

[stiff prairie]

that's just algorithm ig

[short laurel]

There are millions other groups. But it just has to show hybe's bgs

[stiff prairie]

bgs too? that's sad lol

[short laurel]

We are so offtopic but i hope people here try some of nugu's. There's so many underrated good songs much better than big groups but nvr c much light or any at all.

[jolly junco]

he fly to europe for free?? on his own expense?

[stiff prairie]

not those i think. but hiring him as paid actor would cost a fortune

[half knot]

stan Billlie for good music and fantastic MVs and visuals

[stiff prairie]

i used to follow them before they debuted lmao. they used to do hiphop concepts back then

[half knot]

their pre debut dance videos are pretty great yeah

[hoary frost]

lol hybe stans mad that they still use the practice room

[rain spade]

How do they even know they using the practice room kek

[shy schooner]

Ig story

[thorny knot]

ig story from a video that was taken months ago

[hoary frost]

Im quite sure Minji’s was taken today

[steel depot]

back track if she wears that shirt already in the past months

[tardy smelt]

i'm pretty sure it's from today as well. even Dani's story before Minji's is probably in the practice room.

[thorny knot]

even if they are using it, it's probably until they finish their activities with hybe/ador

[shy schooner]

Technically they still have to finish schedule from Ador and end of year festivals are coming up

[mild mist]

Remember, they're not employees, so usage of the practice room is included by ADOR when they hire them for each appearance

[short laurel]

there are soo many underrated artists. i think billlie is above nugu. like medium.

what makes you guy think it's the same practice room? there can be rooms with same design in different studio.

[hoary frost]

lol cmon now dont be that guy its clearly the same one the thing is they have the right to use it since they still got schedules as newjeans fraudor not letting them would only strengthen the girls case in short Jeanz are finessing fraudor and hybe system

[short laurel]

i was joking...

[waxen musk]

The things people focus on these days make me laugh: the dance studio and the hearts? Seriously?

[rain spade]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-ivuyuzt-kpop-girl-reaction-twice-reaction-kpop-girl-confused-gif-1041585277652858684

[hoary frost]

i saw some hybe stans bullying ktokkis mhj fans on twt saying if they did it with bsh itll be different like ofc one is a graphic designer turned ceo and a visionary and the other is a nepo baby lickn a zion1st ass ofc itll be weird if u a fan of a money hungry ceo who take girls half of his age on dates

[short laurel]

hearts one was a setup account. i so many setup accounts finding things to hate at every thing riling up fnadoms to start fan wars.

[short laurel]

i never understood why people are fine with companies male ceo being super close to their 1st few bg and gg idols. but think it's weird when a female ceo is close with her 1st gg.

look at MHJ history. people have been attacking her at everything. just need to add her name and for every mistake by the team blame goes to her without any solid proof. their proof is just some random fansites word, those twts propagated again n again.
for male ceo, it's screaming fir a while, then everyone forgets n start praising therm again.
this is the reason why i started supporting mhj, she suffered alot.

[jolly junco]

??? What hearts?

[waxen musk]

The five coloured hearts.

[jolly junco]

Oh 😂

[marsh sorrel]

🥹

Hit 1m followers

[short laurel]

ador still following mhj lol

[short laurel]

it's a yearly schedule to fight over colors for some twter "luvies" i m sad cuz i heard girls change hearts to animal cuz of this.

[faint oyster]

I've noticed that hybe and ador haven't responded or made any statements since they opened their new IG accounts to communicate with bunnies in the last few days.
My guess is that the court has completed its review of the contract ahead of schedule.

[short laurel]

i think idols making ig account has nothing to do with contract. it's girls personal account even if it's ot5 account. odor commenting on will only make them look more petty and stupid.

[fierce cloak]

do we know what are schedules NJ still have to do under contracts related to ador?

[split bramble]

if you think hybe are not 3rd party then NJ's contract termination is iron clad as they've directly partaken in breach of trust worthy activities

[faint oyster]

I have a feeling that we are very close to a victory.

[fierce cloak]

block that account please, it's a waste of time argue with a troll

[fierce cloak]

i trust in MHJ + NJ, they have competent lawyers and well prepared
i still remember the lawyer working with mhj said that there is a reason why mhj achieved her success and able to produce things even with cheap budget, she will figure this out

[cosmic belfry]

Public appearances prob done by January/February. We don't really know the terms for ads but prob most if not all will end in Q1, March 2025. .

[fierce cloak]

oh then i guess it will take a while until they take the next move
Done all activities tied to ador -> take a break -> establish new company for themselves
During this time mhj and nj parents would work behind the scene for the new company and re-debut

[stone grotto]

Does anyone know if brands can even make deals with the girls separately if they’re not part of a management group/label? I guess they can be freelancers maybe

[fierce cloak]

it seems the law not allow them to sign as freelancer, they must have an agency, even if they establish it themselves

[faint oyster]

I hope that MHJ has been working on a new album in secret, to be released as soon as everything is settled.

[fierce cloak]

yeah i hope NJ full abum (both music and visual concept) that was in development isnt locked by ador, but mhj & bana has control about it so they can just release as they want

[stiff prairie]

*x -c https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1868671665305223436

[harsh dove]

@cato_o_o <t:1734361017:d>

From Brunch Story (Translated the NewJeans part)

History of Bang Geuk-gyun and the KMCA, and NewJeans.

The lobbying by Bang Geuk-gyun and the Music Content Association with the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism (MCST) is the history of the Korean music market."

Link👇

[stiff prairie]

https://brunch.co.kr/@dcd23620248b49e/100

[fierce cloak]

if they dare touch on NJ i hope K-tokkis ready their guns and sue them and make police investigate the chart and expose a bunch of hybe achievements are actually fraud

[stable escarp]

wait hybe filed a lawsuit against newjeans?

[fierce cloak]

it was ador filed a verification if the termination was valid

[stable escarp]

Thats what i thought but the TL is saying that Hybe filed a lawsuit after martial law but Ador filed a verification before martial law

[fierce cloak]

the last page have the note from translator

[stable escarp]

Ye thats what i was referring to. Ill just take it for what it is.

[stiff prairie]

yeah maybe they got that part wrong. the point of the main article is about dirty history of kmca

[split bramble]

wait hybe sued the girls?

[faint oyster]

no

[short laurel]

What a shit law. Illegal law. Stupid dystopia

So limitation on artists freedom. Of korea is super messed up. Just how bad slavery that country is

[short laurel]

Can u share where u learn this? From what i found is search, it's only restricted to idols who are already under a company, they need their labels permission for independent deals.
But nothing about freelancer. In fact i learned that there are very nugu independent idol groups in kpop. (Proper idols, not street dancers groups)

Jeanz right now are an independent group

[warm shard]

Honestly I've always assumed this was the case but to see it written down feels so weird like being hit with reality. It just makes me less interested in kpop overall

[mild mist]

||a) YG b) Bang sihyuk c) Lee sooman d) JYP||
am I right?

[short laurel]

YG ent. N JYP ent. Have gotten some certification on good workplace or something from western organisations btw. 🤮

[copper jetty]

Jyp is friends with R. Kelly???

[warm shard]

Yes he sent Wonder Girls to one of his parties back in the eye... It was a party or his house I'm not sure

[upbeat stream]

No it is true, Korea only allows entertainment activities via an agency. But that is not an issue since they can create their own

[short laurel]

Shere where u guys learned this. Cus its so messed up.

[upbeat stream]

If they are really confident that the contract is terminated, then working with brands directly or through their own agency are equivalent. Both of them would be contract violations normally

[upbeat stream]

I once saw a youtube video about it, I'll try to find a proper source

[red thorn]

I saw the article, mentioned that specific standard exclusive contract.
Basically granting of exclusive management rights to agencies.

https://v.daum.net/v/20241213170504399

Articles 2, 6, and 14 of the actual Ministry of Culture’s standard exclusive contract include provisions related to granting exclusive management rights. According to these, all entertainment activities of entertainers must be conducted through the agency (agency). In addition, singers cannot negotiate appearances or provide popular culture and art services on their own or through a third party without the agency’s prior approval during the contract period. It is also prohibited to enter into an identical or similar contract with a third party without the agency’s prior consent, thereby rendering the contract invalid or unfairly infringing upon the agency’s contractual interests.

[short laurel]

That's for people who are already under an agency. It's not same thing

There's nothing about idols who are completely independent

[short laurel]

This article says that nj can't cuz they are under ador.
But according to nj the contract is terminated so this doesn't apply to them according to girls

Also youtuber n streamers are technically entertainers too. Much of them seem independent to me..

[red thorn]

Oh right, the context seems artist that under the exclusive contract
In conclusion, good ol mediaplay

[short laurel]

I looked it up but i c nothing about laws restricting freelancers from entertainment activities

According to the article, an unnamed legal professional is legal community lol

[stable escarp]

restricting freelancers from entertainment activities seems counterintuitive to me

[short laurel]

I think people just mixed up what the article meant n YouTubers are known to lie about things for the sake of their narrative in kpop drama to get more engagement

[hoary frost]

Looked into it too, I think its not a law but like a stigma or smth.
K-pop idols cant debut without a company, not by law, but they wont be as successful without a company
The company trains them and promotes them, but in Jeanz’s case, they are already well trained and a big bomb so they really dont need a company

[short laurel]

Yea, that's about it. It's much easier to rely on agency than going independent cuz of how many things there are to handle for even established groups like jeanz. But no restriction by law.

[red thorn]

Moreover for kpop idols especially a group, studios that they can use routinely are essential

[hoary frost]

And the booking for shows, its js rlly much much mich much much easier udner a company

[upbeat stream]

But as I said before, establishing a holding company simply to have something with which to communicate with brands should be pretty easy

No reason why they can't do it IF they are confident about their case

[short laurel]

Yea, even youtuber n streamers who get big establish an agency to handle things

[upbeat stream]

And if they are not, then it's best to just await the court's ruling

[cosmic belfry]

I recall someone mentioning that's what Chuu did before she signed with an agency. I don't know if she took any deals during that time tho.

Edit: To clarify I mean she set up a company with her mom.

[cerulean lake]

idk i think chuu had a lot of brand deals even before the court ruled in her favor

could be wrong abt that but i remember someone saying that chuu had like a lot of advertisements

[upbeat stream]

Yeah I think Chuu set up a shell company to manage herself. We know so little about Loona's cases because there wasn't much media fervor

So I can't be sure but that's what I heard

[mild mist]

Well I'm sure that if you ask one of the 20 000 active lawyers, fluent in Korean, on kpop Reddit...

[upbeat stream]

Speaking of reddit, they have been obsessed with Hanni's visa status and think that she'll be kicked out of the country. They have no idea that she is almost certainly on F2 visa

Which gives long term residency not tied to employment

[short laurel]

Are u sure about that? Honestly i m wondering about her visa status too. She'll be fine as long as she has current activities going on under newjeans name.
But we don't really know what visa her visa status is.

[upbeat stream]

No reason for her not to get it. You need to stay on job visa for 3 years to be eligible, which she has. After that, it depends on your age, income, education etc. Her income and age alone is more than sufficient to get her the visa

[hoary frost]

Is she not a korean citizen?

[upbeat stream]

Hanni?

She's Australian of Vietnamese decent

[tiny peak]

here's a video explaining how chuu established a company after she won her injunction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1nxMxn4U5I

[upbeat stream]

Seriously, I know this because a very close relative of mine has the F2. He even did masters which he didn't need just for this visa lol

[short laurel]

Do they count trainee period? Cuz without it she'll be below 3 years.

[hoary frost]

Rigt

[upbeat stream]

Trainees have to sign entertainment contract too. From immigration office's pov, they aren't much different from idols

[short laurel]

Ohk

I saw u on reddit, you got the balls to talk with kpop reddit.
Them saying "We know Hanni has not been receiving good legal advice this year."

[upbeat stream]

I've been strategic to not get downvoted. They all suffer from brainrot

[tiny peak]

I have not visited reddit once since this started. idk how you all do it. but why do they even still care? are they faking concern for the girls?

[hoary frost]

Im not even seeing anyt negative in r/Newjeans

[short laurel]

The were faster on following jeanz account than tokkies

[upbeat stream]

They have been openly hating on the girls and if you protest, you get downvoted

[shy schooner]

You will see lot more negativity on r/kpop or r/kpopthoughts

[upbeat stream]

But the mods eventually delete the worst of the comments

[hoary frost]

They sound stupid, theyre saying Newjeans didnt receive as major mistreatment as Vcha or Fromis so they shldnt hv spoken up

[short laurel]

Even on twitter. A new wave of accounts supporting every other idols who suffered but hating on nj for speaking up.

When u say newjeans got mistreatment too, they'll go against you. 😭

[hoary frost]

“Hurting their peers for speaking up”
“Hybe contract is on the better side”
“Hybe is one of the better companies” then ends with “Not to be a company stan”

[heady gate]

I noticed she carries an Australia passport at the airport

[mild mist]

I'm guessing they just want upvotes

[mild mist]

That's a slippery slope
"Oh but vcha didn't get it as bad as madein"
"Oh but madein didn't get it as bad as the Syrian people"
...

[fierce cloak]

oh i guess i got it wrong lol

[fierce cloak]

yeah she's "rich" + high profile + doesnt have any crime issue so she should be easy to get visa lol

[fierce cloak]

yeah the trauma p*rn is so ridiculous
NJ girls are so smart to quit ador as soon as they got efficient evidence, because they dont need to waste their time - especially the precious youth in the dungeon
That makes them really couragous too

Any time i see idols being mistreated or abused, and all fans do is mass emailing, that's a childish behavior, just yapping and no actual work

If they want to make a real change, do it like K-tokkis, investigate and suing

[fierce cloak]

it's just projecting hero complex & virtue signaling

[upbeat stream]

Also file NA petitions, not change.org 💀

[fierce cloak]

for real tho
when k-tokkis get signature for MHJ and NJ cases they hired real lawyers to verify them and send to the police/ court

Change.org do nothing but noise that nobody give af

a bunch of children and idiots think they are do something by yapping, hashtag, mass email but actually zero impact

[hoary frost]

They dont got nth to lose forreal Jeanz is the goat

[fierce cloak]

ofc NJ is a bit of special case that makes them able to do this

1. They have MHJ - the visionary, who is a master in her craft, a veteran in the industry, the best of the best in kpop - who also incredibily stubborn and willing fight to death to protect NJ
2. NJ bond & trust each otheris incredibly strong, they also really smart, well taught, talented, have support by parents
3. The promise of creating genuine art between MHJ & NJ is unbreakable, which inpsire and connect everyone works with them
4. MHJ gave NJ a really good contract that benefits the girls
5. NJ got paid very early, no debt, and actually pretty rich, so they can afford to hire lawyers
6. MHJ obviously have a plan with the laywers, while hybe have nothing but media play
7. NJ is incredibly successful, well loved by the whole korea, their reputation and brand value is so high that partners cannot drop them
8. Whoever have critical thinking can easily realised everything is all Hybe malicious attack

i dont think it would be applicable for any other cases
however i hope in long run NJ + MHJ will win in all cases and set new standard in kpop, like Lee Seungi law or something like that

[tiny peak]

Hanni is also on the famous "Welcome To Korea" sign at the Airport. Imagine if she got deported 😭

[fierce cloak]

she literally got hired by KR gov to welcome people to KR lol
i remember last year i transit in incheon airport i waved to NJ billboard too lol

[jolly junco]

OMEGA just scored a deal with danielle without the “newjeans” name

Does that mean this GA for danielle didnt go thru fraudor?

[cosmic belfry]

This deal had to have gone through ADOR though if ADOR is posting about it on their socials.

[jolly junco]

but omega following jeanzforfree, not newjeans_official

[cosmic belfry]

Yea but they still coordinated post times. Following jeanzforfree is a good sign though.

[fierce cloak]

hmm i wonder how their contract with brands that still tied with ador is gonna resolve 🤔 eventually NJ will have to establish their own company for management and release new album, so if they have to wait till all contract deals through ador end it will take a long time

[upbeat stream]

Brands are taking a both sides approach. If the court decides in jeanz's favor, brands can sue ador to get out of the contract if ador doesn't let them terminate mutually

I just hope the case is resolved within 6-8 months

[short laurel]

after listening to people here and looking up on places like reddit. alot of intl fans got the wrong idea on this.

[short laurel]

and trucks.

[split bramble]

sorry to say this but hatred for nj will not die down, if anything it will increase

they're the face of gen z feminism, korean incel culture will never stop harassing them

they're not just mainstream among mainstream, their actions are culturally relevant, very very few celebrity ever gets to reach that stage let alone reach that after 2 years

[acoustic marsh]

I agree hate is not gonna stop but it won’t stop them either, they already know wht they’re in for and it’s admirable

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8NQ6WAg/

I found this which i think backs up why people are mad and idk why older gen kpop stans want the same treatment for the newer generation when they alrdy know how fucked the kpop industry is

Free NEW JEANS ftw

[red thorn]

Hmm not sure about will not die down and will only increasing, but for sure the kind of hatred from that incel culture gonna always exist
But you know, overtime it will be just noise, they bark, not worth to focus on

[frozen bronze]

the people that complain the loudest dont actually watch their content, so you dont end up even noticing it unless you seek it out on places like twitter

[hoary frost]

i seen some tiktoks abt Jeanz leaving hybe for MHJ and i think its true i dont know why some tokkis deny it

[thorny knot]

i mean if they did i don't blame them she's treated them so much better than hybe/fraudor ever has

[hoary frost]

i see ppl say that if they being sabotaged why just speak now and only leave when mhj left like ofc they gonna leave after the one who is pushing back and protecting them against all this sabotage left

[thorny knot]

no matter what they decide to do going forward we'll support the girls

[thorny knot]

yep and they were being constantly harassed by hybe staff and also being stalked by dispatch too, like of course they'd leave

[hoary frost]

like i don’t know why some tokkis are doing mental gymnastics trying to deny it just make us look crazy like its so simple without her as ceo hybe has full control to make all their plans like “throwing them away” or brand deals given to other groups and a year long hiatus

[short laurel]

Those are not Tokkies. Just setup accounts. Similar to lia just different direction.

[upbeat stream]

Don't forget how poorly hybe treats their other idols, they are always on the verge of collapse with rarely any breaks. Just imagine how horrible hybe could've been to nwjns since there's mutual hatred involved as well

They got out before things could escalate, simple as that

[short laurel]

There are flovers who are sad with fromis disbanded. N girls finally got freedom from hybe dungeon.

Dome haters using the argument "I've nvr heard of the brand" to hate on dani.
They don't even realise they look foolish here 😂

[hoary frost]

Newjeans literally appeals to all ages like my father knows of Danielle now bc hes a big watch fanatic. They may not hv heaed of Omega but quite literally nobody gaf what they hear

[short laurel]

i just found it funny how they called themselves poor and didn't realise it.

[hoary frost]

They r too beta get it

[tawdry vessel]

https://x.com/haeriism/status/1868460829525622878?t=MiVBhSEPBcFTlXkUZiCd0w&s=19

dan (@haeriism) on X

why tokkis shouldn't support JasonTheWeen; a thread 🧵

Twitter · Dec 16, 2024, 12:59 AM

[harsh dove]

@haeriism <t:1734312571:d>

this is him reacting to bubble gum when it came out. you can zoom the date to see it was april.
it's fine if you don't like the music but you can at least be respectful about it.

[tawdry vessel]

i knew bro was using nj for clout

[stable escarp]

Is that the whole clip?

Cos he been playing newjeans music before how sweet era

[tawdry vessel]

read the whole thread, a lot of receipts there

[short laurel]

nothing new. him and nj interacted that's fine and all but why do tokkies supporting this guy who has nothing to do with nj just cuz he interacted with them. him and his fandom is totally different from newjeans.

[hoary frost]

This was expected 🤣

[short laurel]

he is just a random dude on the internet to us.

[hoary frost]

He thrashed Njs, “this fucking sucks”

[stable escarp]

ye im reading the thread rn

[mental lynx]

After that he Said super shy clears its Not the full clip, but I dont Like Jasons content so i dont really care, but he helped the girls gaining more attention, there was another clip where he only know hanni

[hoary frost]

He called Kpop Kpoop too so like thats kinda weird Im q sure he started off as a Kpop anti LOL

[mental lynx]

But he had newjeans as his third most listened Artist this year on spotify

So i guess Not that bad

[hoary frost]

Doesnt change whatever he said but like pop off ig

[stable escarp]

ngl that was me until i listened to nj

[hoary frost]

Im ngl me too but I never said their music fucking sucks

[mental lynx]

well he literally said when he met the girls that when he thought what Tiktok he can make with them was the ETA clip, which he said he doesnt care he had to milk it

[red thorn]

Probably he learned to actually like them
That's what I want to believe

[short laurel]

kpop is kpoop. it's the truth. just there happen to be few real artists among big names in kpop and nj is part of those real artists. but overall alot of mid music getting too much attention.

also it's totally fine to not like some of your fav artists songs. i personally not vibe with supernatural. and not like getup album much.

[mental lynx]

Thats true you dont Need to Like every song

[mild mist]

People haven't heard of Omega watches?
Bizarre

[short laurel]

i find it weird that a fan need to like every song of an artists to be called "true fans" if anything they are forcing themselves and hence not true fans.

[mental lynx]

Omega watches out of my salary

[mild mist]

Oh gatekeeping like that can get in the sea

[short laurel]

alot of people not into watches so makes sense they don't know. funny thing about those was how they didn't tried to look it up and assumed it being something small.

[hoary frost]

Maybe he came off harsher than he shld or smth, calling bubblegum shit and sayign it fucking sucks doesnt sit right w me #bubblegum #yay

[mild mist]

Like I said, bizarre
I've never bought anything more than a €20 Casio, but I still know expensive watches when I see them

[short laurel]

he is a gamer streamer right? their words are like that. he's some rando to us. better to ignore him and move on instead of getting involved in fanwar with him.

[mental lynx]

https://x.com/haeriism/status/1868468566791737641?s=46
Thats the only thing I was like ok he just knew Hanni

dan (@haeriism) on X

theres also a clip of him saying he doesn't know any members beside hanni. this was just before the ETA clip

Twitter · Dec 16, 2024, 1:29 AM

but now he really seems to care about them so im ok with it 👍🏼

[tardy smelt]

I have a different opinion here. I think this Twitter drama is unnecessary. I saw this clip before ETA went viral and it didn't affect my respect for him for his support. These clips are from a period where he wasn't into K-Pop, and was close-minded because of the stigma of liking K-Pop. You can learn to like something. I don't think you should shun someone for their opinion on a song from months ago.

[tawdry vessel]

My only prob is him using nj for clout and that's it. I'm also not fan of his content overall.

[tardy smelt]

I agree with this too. You're allowed to dislike things. It's genuine and lets me understand your taste. You're more interesting as a person if you're honest about your likes and dislikes.

[short laurel]

i seen so many fandoms worldwide liking whatever artists or companies throw out just cuz they stan them. it's weird.

[tardy smelt]

I like what I like so I'm not offended if someone says they don't like what I like

[mental lynx]

I am honest I don’t like zero

oh and I got fed up with Super Shy

[waxen musk]

I gave Jason's streams a try when he was in Korea and a tiny bit when he wasn't and I judged him based on that, which is to say I thought he was fine and respectable, although his content that I didn't actually watch sometimes veers outside of that respect and the people he hangs around with are questionable to put it lightly.
But yeah I dunno it's easy to see him chasing the clout, especially after I heard him talk about wanting to make his money fast to help out his parents and everything. He's a grifter for sure.
But I do think he genuinely started to really like a lot of NewJeans music and of course it's hard not to be charmed by the girls too.

[modern fog]

damn

[hoary frost]

If I dont like something I dont say its shit and fucking sucks I say Oh and move on
Like Im thankful for his support for ETA and NJs but like, as a person, Jason is ur typical teenage boy
He throws slurs and makes questionable comments u feel me

“All I care is that she get it” idk what hes trying to imply but thats one questionable comment ya I might b misunderstanding it

[short laurel]

that's just the stigma kpop has.

[tardy smelt]

I also think he genuinely likes their music and supports the girls. And as for the issue of clout chasing - he's a streamer, it's a part of the job, and he's also young so I understand.

[mental lynx]

?

[short laurel]

i've seen people hating on bts like that openly. "it's shit, it's sucks, f ed up taste and so" people listen to kpop and say these all the time.

which stemps from kpop fandom being garbage and alot of mid music charting high with payola.

[waxen musk]

Yeah it's almost like a default mainstream Western view on K-pop. "Oh that sucks" and people say that before even trying to give it a chance.

They might have only heard like 5 songs in their life on radio that they're even aware was K-pop, most of it being BTS.

[sonic olive]

Yooo even this official didnt say “newjeans danielle” anymore 🥹🤣🤣🤣

[red thorn]

Danielle Marsh

[tawdry vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1305616496650878976.gif?size=48

[hoary frost]

Alpha modelling for Omega

[short laurel]

when i was 1st introduced to bts. 1st song i was given was not so good. so my impression of kpop was bad. i was like "people actually like this sht?" it's another case of people like all the songs artists put out just cuz it's their songs.

my 1st impression of kpop

[red thorn]

"I'm sorry kpop, I wasn't familiar with your game"

[hoary frost]

Js because its a stigma doesnt make it ok, this thread is gna bring so much beef 🤣🤣🤣 Jason and the girls r literally chilling
They seem cool w him

[tardy smelt]

me, listening to BTS in 2017 after being prejudiced against k-pop because of its stigma

[short laurel]

yea but he's a streamer and that's the culture unfortunately. best to ignore it and move on.

[hoary frost]

Yup, best to avoid the uncessary twitter war as u said

[waxen musk]

The main thing about Jason is that I think at this point he respects the girls enough to not do anything actually dumb to hurt them. That's all that matters. What he said before was shitty though. I think he thinks about the girls more than they think of him. It's obvious from their point of view they saw ETA going viral again and celebrate that, but they weren't the ones to reach out to him. I'm saying obvious things.

[hoary frost]

I hope he has changed, hes not a Newjeans fan, js a casual fan u feel me like he knows them but dont know them

Watched his streams before and he really isnt that bad without his friends and the chat

[tardy smelt]

iirc they were the ones who reached out to him after seeing a post on twt that he was outside of the HYBE building

[mental lynx]

well we will see if he actually meets them on the 31st, he will be attending Japan countdown, if they meet cool if Not also cool

[hoary frost]

Cool with you

[short laurel]

u sure? i heard it was jason's manager who pulled his connection to get in touch with nj.

[waxen musk]

I think his managers tried to contact them and then the girls reached out to meet him when he was outside the building but it fell through until few days later. It started with Jason asking his managers to reach out.

[short laurel]

nj simply agreed to it when they heard he wants to meet.

[tardy smelt]

ah yeah, this is correct

[mental lynx]

Yea but hanni saw that he was outside of the Building if I remember correctly

[tawdry vessel]

you're right, he said this

[short laurel]

yea that

[hoary frost]

Based on his video Nj’s manager reached out to him or smth

[tawdry vessel]

yep

[short laurel]

it's as ash said above

[mental lynx]

but out of topic I will also be on Japan countdown on the 31st cant wait to see them live on stage

[short laurel]

u should meet jason

[waxen musk]

How do we know which of the two events on the 31st will be live vs prerecorded? Did they say?

[mental lynx]

if I see him I will ask whats your ETA

[hoary frost]

I think he might stream/vlog it, u can find him and play ETA again 🤣

[mental lynx]

😂😂

[waxen musk]

What if they're both prerecorded?

[mental lynx]

japan Countdown is live it’s a festival

[jolly junco]

They dont know james bond??? THE james bond??? 😭

[short laurel]

u'll be surprised. there are people who don't know james bond.

world has too many things. not everyone can know whats big in west all the time.

[hoary frost]

They r js pretending that Danielle is an ambassador of a nugu brand out of spite

[short laurel]

i learn who beyonce is just last year

[bronze jetty]

i do enjoy watches and omega is very good as far as watches go

[stable escarp]

wait omega is nugu?

[short laurel]

and just like the case with BTS. the song i was introduced beyonce with( idr the name) was mid.

[tardy smelt]

uncultured smh (today was the first time i heard about omega)

[short laurel]

i looked up her other songs after experiencing bts case and like them.

[hoary frost]

Not rlly, its big in the watch world, just saying how some ppl pretend to not know out of spite and iealousy

[jolly junco]

I dont wear watch or any accessories, but even i know omega is a luxury watch brand

[tawdry vessel]

*x -c https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1868951709198041556

[harsh dove]

@PoppyKPoppie <t:1734427785:d>

danielle joins britsh actor daniel craig and academy award winner, nicole kidman as omega's newest global ambassador.
OMEGA GLOBAL AMBASSADOR DANIELLE MARSH
#DaniellexOmega
#omega
#jeanzforfree

[short laurel]

luxury brand

[bronze jetty]

*x https://x.com/thewatchb/status/1868413104901533803?s=46

[harsh dove]

@TheWatchB <t:1734299372:d>

[short laurel]

rolex is most popular one here.

[stable escarp]

ye ik thats why im questioning how people are saying its nugu. thats crazy to me

[bronze jetty]

rolex and richard mille!

[short laurel]

i nvr heard of most of them above entry lol

[bronze jetty]

a lot of athletes and f1 racers like richard mille for some reason

[tardy smelt]

too rich for my blood so 👨‍🦯

[red thorn]

I'm an entry level consumer

[short laurel]

even entry level is not really entry here. casio is still expensive

[bronze jetty]

yeah g-shocks are really expensive

either way good for danielle for the ambassadorship!

[short laurel]

i have a daniel klein. where does it belongs ?

[hoary frost]

Oh

[upbeat stream]

Omega is one of the most famous watch brands duh

[hoary frost]

Entry mist likely

[stable escarp]

most within the first and second categories is what people would die to be ambassadors for

[short laurel]

mine is probably one of expensive ones in daniel klein's watches. cuz it was not cheap.

[hoary frost]

Iw 2 c it duk the name

[short laurel]

??

mine is now around 6 years old. need to replace battery

[hoary frost]

Do you know the name of the watch I want to see it

[short laurel]

nope.

[hoary frost]

Is Daniel Klein and Calvin Klein related 🤣

[short laurel]

no idea lol

[short laurel]

looking around on internet. it should be around mid-tier actually

[mental lynx]

I always thought rolex was ultra luxury guess I was wrong

[stable escarp]

depends bc rolex has its like own tier level within itself

[hoary frost]

I think all watches do, like Daniel Klein mentioned by @short laurel there are some pretty highly appreciated models in there

[stable escarp]

yuh. watch rankings change all the time. It changes year by year with each release.

We might even get to see the girls partnering up with rolex bc they have worn it before and showed it off which was surprising.

[short laurel]

I checked titan. Most are cheap but there are some that go into basic luxury range

[mental lynx]

well I will never be able to buy any of these watches 😂
I am happy with my apple watch and my fossil one

The girls wore rolex?

[stable escarp]

Yuh haerin had a red rolex on one time and i think hanni as well or dani. it was earlier than super shy era im pretty sure

[mental lynx]

oooh thats cool

[fierce cloak]

hatred is the price of popularity and success, just accept people will be jealous and throw accusation toward them will increase more, but not giving attention to it, rather focus on debunking lies is better

[short laurel]

Yg calls out dispatch for mis reporting news

[stiff prairie]

ok so omega follows the new ig account but not the og newjeans account. i think it's fair to say the brands have chosen their side

[stable escarp]

I finally found it after so long searching lmfao. Its a Rolex Submariner 16610. Im not too sure what Hanni had in the video. Maybe it was a casio idk

[tardy smelt]

they follow the og account now

[stiff prairie]

i was just reading a thread they unfollowed jeanz and then followed both. ig fraudor did smth again.

[stable escarp]

is omega still following both?

[red thorn]

The speculations, contract signed before the termination episode, so it made sense official nj acc from ador involved

[tardy smelt]

yes

[stable escarp]

woah

[stiff prairie]

this made me unfollow official account. i thought i'd keep it followed but ig it's better to unfollow that now

[stable escarp]

Im hoping omega following both means that they are willing to sign a contract w/o ador and js nj after everything is over

[stone grotto]

Omega doesn’t mention newjeans in their post or tags the old account.

[red thorn]

In my view, omega following official nj ador acc and new nj acc also indicating Danielle as an individual artist is them being careful and respect the members perspective too probably.
Seems safe move for the brand's reputation

[stone grotto]

I could have sworn I saw on Twitter just maybe an hour ago that omega wasn’t following newjeansofficial

[red thorn]

At first, now they're following.
I would leaning to believe omega take side if they tag only jeanzforfree on their ig lol

[upbeat stream]

They definitely got an email from ador

[short laurel]

they took the side. but decided to follow nj ador acc after people pointed it out. incase there's some drama with ador in future. probably just to be safe move.

or that

nj ador twt account did shared it

[upbeat stream]

At first they had only followed jeanz. If they had simply followed newjeans after that it would make sense. But they unfollowed it only to follow again leading me to think ador intervened, but then they thought not following members would be wrong too. They are quite confused themselves with this whole situation

[short laurel]

regardless. they wanted dani and they got her.

[upbeat stream]

Things are certainly different now. Do you guys remember any brand not mentioning Newjeans in their ambassador announcement post before?

Because I don't

[short laurel]

how many new brand deals annouced after nj terminated the contract ?

[upbeat stream]

This is obviously the first. I meant like overall, from 2022 onwards

[short laurel]

on gucci. it says hanni from newjeans.

[red thorn]

This is interesting to me, genuinely curious the behind the scene negotiation
If the deal happened after the termination then ador and jeanz should been on compromise, and omega is something too

[waxen musk]

It hasn’t even been three weeks since they announced they’re leaving ADOR. I think that’s too soon to be making new deals and also announcing them. Also everyone reading too much into everything based on follows. Not enough to base entire theories on.

[upbeat stream]

Obviously this deal was made with Ador. Its just that brands are communicating directly with jeanz as well and keeping their options open

Follow both sides and continue with whichever comes out on top

[short laurel]

Point to note is, girls are still in demand even after all this. This is the most important part

[heady gate]

Switch Group own many of the luxury brands.

I am more concerning about LV, Celine and Chanel brand renewal. Time will tell.

[bronze jetty]

oooh harry winston

[short laurel]

It's crazy to me how many luxury brands for clothing products all belong to a few companies

[orchid field]

this holds true for all sorts of luxury class industries

[stone grotto]

I don’t see many other idols the girls’ individual brand ambassadorships would wanna sign

Maybe Aespa but they have their deals signed this year already

Especially Gucci, I’m sure they love working with Hanni and what she does for the brand

[high totem]

theyre all owned by lvmh right

[orchid field]

ya know i feel like the whole music label thing is only very focused in kpop

most luxury brand ambassadorships signed by these brands never really take music labels into consideration. Like do you ever see asap rocky or other western artists get dragged down by their label

[upbeat stream]

Gucci is owned by Kering

Also fun fact: YSL beauty is owned by Loreal, not YSL

And of course Chanel is private

[split bramble]

because for everyone else label is just where you record music, thats it

kpop and their slavery fetish turned it into a 360 deal where they take control of your music, advertisements, other entertainment activities, daily schedule, helping with legal and civil matters, its all really an excuse to just take money out of artists pockets

[orchid field]

that's a very colorful way of putting it but I agree and you understand what I was trying to say

[stone grotto]

Right, most artists have agents that negotiate deals and secure gigs etc for them.

[high totem]

yeah, i know that

lv and celine are though

[heady gate]

true, but I am not sure about South Korea.

[stone grotto]

Nah their labels control everything

[bronze jetty]

that bapex 🔥

[heady gate]

why are we talking watches in this sub?

[gentle badger]

[steel depot]

new hair
new tee
new watch
newjeans do you see

[stable escarp]

Wait bape has watches 😭 ig thats even better in a way? Bape x newjeans ftw

[red thorn]

Korea Broadcast Advertising Corporation survey
NJ still very relevant for teenagers
https://n.news.naver.com/article/008/0005130245?sid=105

[stiff prairie]

Never noticed it before but MHJ is credited as special creative director on the vogue covers posts

[tardy smelt]

very intentional

[jolly junco]

They never mentioned newjeans for that covers 😂 something is cooking

[eager hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/haerin-kang-haerin-haerin-coffee-beans-haerin-ground-beans-haerin-silly-gif-3597464013921641347

[heady gate]

IU is the queen on the list.

[short laurel]

IU is queen among queens, jeanz surpassing her in 1 age group is a huge deal to me.

[short laurel]

So many on twt saying "idols can't work without agency" just where so many ppl sourced this misinformation.

[hoary frost]

Twitter law students

[short laurel]

Actually Tokkies among them too.

[hoary frost]

Nuh uh they r not tokkies

[short laurel]

Ppl here were saying it too. Many say it out of worry cuz idk where they got this misinformation. Lets not call them fake.

[hoary frost]

I think its js like I said, a misunderstanding

[high totem]

other people who think they know the law and the ent industry

[stiff prairie]

I just saw a few replies in the official account's post. Hybe stans are converting to ador stans now my days

Also how obsessed are these guys. This much time and attention could easily be given to their own faves instead.

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1869249565553312062

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1734498800:d>

"NewJeans Goes Independent, Featured as Vogue Korea’s New Year Cover Models… Min Hee-jin’s Role Draws Attention"
https://n.news.naver.com/article/028/0002722398?lfrom=twitter
Reporter Lee Jung-guk

-12 Cover Versions & 52-Page Photo Spread: Unprecedented Treatment

-Min Hee-jin Participates as Freelance Creative Director

After declaring the termination of their exclusive contract with ADOR and pursuing independent activities, NewJeans has been chosen as the New Year cover models for Vogue Korea. The group received extraordinary treatment, featuring 12 different cover versions and a 52-page photo spread. Notably, Min Hee-jin, former head of ADOR, participated as a creative director, attracting significant attention.

On December 18, Vogue Korea announced via its official Instagram and various online bookstores that NewJeans would be the cover models for its January issue. The magazine stated, “We present 12 versions of the cover, including two group covers and two individual covers for each member, showcasing contrasting scenes of traditional Korean attire and Western fashion. The 52-page photo spread starts with handwritten messages from Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein.”

What’s particularly noteworthy is Min Hee-jin’s involvement as the creative director for this project. Vogue Korea acknowledged her contribution by listing her as a “special creative director (MINHEEJIN)” in their announcement. The bottom of the released photos also includes the credit, “Directed by Min Hee-jin.”

Interestingly, the name “NewJeans” is absent from the cover, with only the members’ individual names written in English. This choice is interpreted as reflecting the ongoing contract dispute. Since declaring the termination of their contract, NewJeans has refrained from mentioning their group name at official appearances.

According to industry insiders, Vogue Korea proposed the creative direction to Min Hee-jin, and

[cosmic belfry]

Hmm I found the original post claiming the shoot got canceled. It was by the Hanbok Designer. https://www.threads.net/@moonaoq/post/DDPMpuPSlrS

They posted that on December 6, 2024. Wonder what caused them to think it got canceled.

[half knot]

it's possible that it was cancelled initially

[cosmic belfry]

That's what I'm thinking. I'm wondering who revived it.

[half knot]

vogue is a huge brand, companies like HYBE essentially have to bow to Vogue not the other way around, perhaps this is a calculated publicity stunt for Vogue Korea, and then they reorganized it in such a way to remove as much mention of newjeans as possible and redid the cover too, while not wasting the photoshoot and interviews they had already conducted

they got nothing to lose and potentially a lot of gain in terms of magazine sales, whatever happens with HYBE x NJ and HYBE x MHJ cases

[stiff prairie]

yeah but calling mhj to direct this thing is definitely a choice

[heady gate]

FYI, these are printed Vogue Korea magazines in 12 different covers. VK understands the fans would buy them all.

[ashen charm]

Was it because it was directed by mhj?

[heady gate]

We may never know the real answer

[half knot]

it's also possible ador are the ones who wanted it cancelled because of MHJ's involvement

[tiny peak]

it has people talking, and NJ + MHJ was one of the biggest stories of the year. nice way to cap the year off for vogue

[jolly junco]

these covers are masterpieces! it would be a waste not to launch it thank you whoever you are to revive this project

[ashen charm]

I know ador or as I call them adork hated posting that one
Huge win for MHJ

[tiny peak]

the shoot was so insanely well done, it seems like a statement to me. like this is what our team is capable of and why we fought so hard to keep it together

[jolly junco]

“I don’t have any direct contact with the members. But as a senior, if I could give them some advice, it would be that going through difficult times will make you much more amazing individuals. With deeper emotions, you’ll become artists who can deliver even better music.”

its feels like the whole industry want to help and protect these girls

[ashen charm]

Some of these company's need to realize that these idols are more than just a cash grab ...

[red thorn]

I believe many more silent support from prominent industry workers

[tiny peak]

BigHit CEO proudly admits that idols are a cash grab to them

[stiff prairie]

weirdest thing about these companies is they clearly want us to be in parasocial relationships w the idols, but not so much parasocial that we'd follow them when they're not in that company anymore

[short laurel]

so many things this industry companies and associations said is crazy. anywhere else it wouldn't fly so easily.

[ashen charm]

Once your in a parasocial relationship you don't care as long as you get the product you ask for then they manipulate you 💯

[fierce cloak]

im happy that mhj isnt jobless and get paid to pay her bills🧢 ✊

[jolly junco]

she'll never be jobless with that skill

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/luenacore/status/1869278450445582730

[harsh dove]

@luenacore <t:1734505686:d>

[Termination case similar to NewJeans]

Supreme Court Ruling (Case No. 2017Da258237):
The Supreme Court ruled that exclusive contracts, like those between entertainers and agencies, can be terminated if mutual trust is broken. Exclusive contracts, despite having fixed terms, are akin to delegation contracts under Article 689 of the Civil Code, which allows termination at any time if trust is lost.

In this case, the entertainer ended the contract after the agency acted in ways that harmed trust. The court agreed the termination was lawful because forcing the entertainer to continue under broken trust would violate personal rights.

Key Points:
• Exclusive contracts rely heavily on trust.
• If trust is lost, the entertainer can terminate the contract, even if it has a fixed term.
• Damages usually aren’t awarded in such cases.

Takeaway:
• Mutual trust is essential in exclusive contracts, and it's breakdown justifies ending the agreement.
• Termination itself doesn’t require court approval, but disputes about it's validity or damages might.

So claims like "termination doesn't work that way" would be incorrect, as the Civil Code explicitly allows such actions.

[heady gate]

nice reading

[copper jetty]

I've been back reading and i didn't know people don't know the omega brand... like what?

I'm not into watches too but I definitely know about omega, tag heuer, Rolex, Patek Philippe.

[heady gate]

OMEGA timer is used on many major sport events.

[stiff prairie]

ig omega isn't Rolex level famous. Like I've just heard of Patek philippe rn from you

[short laurel]

this clears up alot. thx

[copper jetty]

It may not be Rolex famous but it's omega? It's used in sports timers too like mcRich1 said. Idk maybe I'm just old...

[short laurel]

i actually didn't know omega be4 dani. only rolex.

but i m not really interested in it. life has too many things.

[stiff prairie]

But lately I haven't seen them sponsoring many things. I mainly follow football only tho

[stiff prairie]

Yeah like omega achieved their goal by getting Dani. Now a different section of people also gets to know about them and stuff

[copper jetty]

True... they're very picky, I mean I only know it because of Daniel Craig but I've actually been eyeing to buy one of their watches

[sweet pebble]

omega r watches that are worn by dads

[stiff prairie]

Nah one of my friends has it too. It's not his main tho

[copper jetty]

Let's be real tho... with the price ranges for these watches only dads that have money can buy them lmao

[stiff prairie]

Ok let's move on from watches ig

[copper jetty]

But now they're opening up to a new target audience with dani in as their newest brand ambassador

[hoary frost]

Someone said “Omega watches r for older generations that will die soon, they need another generation to sell to” 🤣

[red thorn]

Teenagers now want Omega watch for their birthday present from their dad

[copper jetty]

Although I'm really confused tho with how the contracts are lining up. Even the vogue korea magazines. Like they for sure erased the newjeans name on it.

Idk... I feel like the Jeaniez and ador are playing tug of war right now on insta

[mild mist]

Don't omega do the timing for world athletics these days?

[heady gate]

It is 5:36pm kst on Wednesday. Any mediaplay?

[mild mist]

Do we know what 'trust' means in this context?

[mild mist]

Been a bit quiet for a while now
Must be waiting for courts

[copper jetty]

True. Does anyone have the list of court dates especially the ador suit for the contracts? I don't know how long that takes.

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/nayeonthequeenn/status/1869303300736376852?s=46

Aespaended (@Nayeonthequeenn) on X

Ador confirms that they don’t know wtf going on 😭

Twitter · Dec 18, 2024, 8:46 AM

[stable escarp]

lol; they js had to add that mhj liked nj's post

[hushed whale]

Ador stated on the 18th, "Any account other than the official NewJeans SNS accounts established by Ador has been created without prior agreement under the terms of our exclusive contract," adding, "There have been actual inquiries and complaints from advertisers and other third parties regarding the posting of content on such accounts."
are they lying again just like they did with the ETA director cut?

[modern fog]

lmao

they had to insert mhj 😭

[neon igloo]

ADOR: Brands are protesting and writing to us!
Also brands: Follow the jeanzforfree account and don’t use NewJeans in new content

so funny

[jolly junco]

Everything they said never make any sense with the reality

[neon igloo]

It’s just so funny to me how they try to manipulate people’s opinions, when just by simply looking at the new content, anyone can clearly see whose side the brands are on

[mental lynx]

smh this clown company

[heady gate]

ADOR/HYBE can manipulate people's opinions, but they can't affect the brands' decisions

[wind monolith]

Fraudor in their denial stage

[copper jetty]

I'm betting omega complained because the official newjeans account complained themselves and asked them to be tagged and followed too.

[hoary frost]

LOL

[waxen musk]

Wow ADOR actually made me laugh first thing I saw after waking up.

[hoary frost]

Had to add in MHJ liekd the girls’ first post too 😭

[copper jetty]

Also this just screams... bring newjeans back to us lmao

[neon igloo]

"Please, help us bring the NewJeans back. We can’t handle this" lmao

[stable escarp]

Ador the insecure partner

[hoary frost]

“We dont know whats going on!! Please come back to us 😭🥺”

[copper jetty]

The girls gave them 2 chances to rectify their mistakes. They didn't comply. The fafo fr.

[waxen musk]

I don't think they're even saying that. They're just delusional and think they never left.

I saw fake ADOR just posted some Hanni Gucci pics too. Obviously to coincide with this report.

[wind monolith]

They r going thru 5 stages of grief

[copper jetty]

They're still at the first stage.. they haven't even accepted it yet lmao. It's gonna take a while

I'm guessing the vogue cover triggered this.

[neon igloo]

I want to see a post with Gucci from Hanni on jeanzfree acc

[waxen musk]

With how close Hanni is with the Gucci guy I don't doubt we'll see it soon. But Gucci is already part of the Vogue shoot so I guess that counts already.

The funny thing is I doubt Hanni was aware of ADOR going to post those Gucci pics just now. Makes me wonder if even Gucci was aware either. Hmm.

[jolly junco]

never underestimate the power of gossips and rumors......

[waxen musk]

At least the individual post on the fake ADOR account has got fewer likes than the group post on jeanzforfree (and also there are individual member posts too), but it's not a HUGE gap in likes.

[copper jetty]

Also can I say the vogue cover is brilliant... the girls themselves are moving away from the newjeans name and are branding themselves as individuals. This will make the people easier to remember them by their new group name and will not be attached to the NJ name and brand.

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1869321395647443064

[narrow seal]

241218 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1869321395647443064
Today’s press release just confirmed that hybe admitted to harassing Omega yesterday. The back-and-forth of unfollowing and following again is all due to hybe’s manipulation

[waxen musk]

I understand why everyone thinks they're called "Jeanz" now but when they do start using a new name and it's not Jeanz there's going to be so much confusion once again.

[hoary frost]

lol i know fraudor is scrambling to add more schedules from their existing brand contracts just to add more confusion

[neon igloo]

post with Hanni on jeanzforfree gained more likes faster than the post with Danielle on the fraudor account.
The same thing happened with Dani’s post on jeanzforfree.
These are great indicators! Plus, the fraudor IG account keeps losing followers every day

[waxen musk]

I'm so not used to liking anything on any platform I keep needing to remind myself to do it for jeanzforfree.

[neon igloo]

-15k was yesterday

[short laurel]

daniel klein ? poor me have that.

[acoustic marsh]

Hell yeah time to unfollow the “nj official” acc

[copper jetty]

I meant omega... they're picky.

[neon igloo]

almost -100k followers in three days for the fraudor IG account

[sweet pebble]

part of me still thinks that nj media is controlled by the good staff

[hoary frost]

lol fraudor digging their own graves by mentioning third party complaints i dont think they know who the brands are actually supporting like someone from vouge literally post herself throwing a middle finger to hybe

[waxen musk]

Current ADOR staff probably reluctantly following orders.

[flint stone]

https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1869324438673707304?t=f89NEfAwCAjeFF_czCzCuQ&s=19

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

Thanks to the dumbass Ten Asia, it’s now confirmed that Omega is an endorsement the members earned on their own, there’s no involvement from HYBE 🤣

Twitter · Dec 18, 2024, 10:10 AM

[tardy smelt]

bold

[waxen musk]

Sounds like there are managers at ADOR and managers who left. That's new info. I wonder if they all still follow the girls around as seen in the airports. We have yet to really know who has (or has to) stick around at ADOR vs has left.

[wind monolith]

So the omega deal is not with ador but with Danielle

[waxen musk]

That's what it says yeah. "O brand"

[jolly junco]

"another luxury brand" 👀

what could it be

[hoary frost]

lol it makes a lot of sense since some brands like chaumet and omega are showing love for the girls since before even with hyein and tiffanyco i bet hybe is just blocking their offers before

[waxen musk]

Obviously I doubt Manager A done it without thinking it'd get the girls and themselves into trouble but surely doing that type of thing while you're an employee at ADOR for the girls outside of ADOR is extremely risky?
And Manager B doing it now they've left ADOR is fine, obviously.

[copper jetty]

Yeah I'm guessing that's why they omitted the newjeans name and just introduced her as Danielle marsh

[fierce cloak]

well certainly plenty people wanna work with her, but i bet she refuse most of them so she can concentrate for NJ redebut

[copper jetty]

I'm ngl though what that manager did was risky and I'm scared of how this will impact the legal battle

[fierce cloak]

true i worry about the managers
at least so far it doesnt seem ador able to find anything concrete yet

also i still dont understand how the girls going to schedules without ador management? there are staffs like dancers, make up artists, stylist...etc who is managing and paying them?

[short laurel]

nj is out of ador. they have nothing to do with ador. manager is a human who works at ador but is free to do whatever outside ador. manager helped their friend jeanz who are not part of ador to establish contract with O brand a brand who is not part of ador.

if court approved termination as valid. then what manager did should be no issue.

[waxen musk]

Not so sure about that but we'll see. Like I said obviously they didn't do it without thinking.

[short laurel]

manager just helped out a friend. it shouldn't have anything to do with the company.

[jolly junco]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1869330643743875431

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1734518130:d>

241218 Phil Chang (philchang__), Founder and Creative Director of C47 Creative

"Someone please Substack coherently about how/why the rogue NewJeans IG account is going to cook the Korean record label system into obsolescence if their gamble pays off. Can’t believe they are threading the needle so effectively. Perfect account handle/name, too.

Very telling as to why a consortium of entertainment companies in Korea is looking to sue a bunch of kids despite the staggering PR losses they’ll eat for doing just that. You have no answers, and you provide zero value!"

🎵NewJeans - New Jeans

#jeanzforfree

[thorny knot]

so many people discredit and undermine the girls cause they are young but they are so smart it's insane

[orchid field]

hoes mad

[gentle badger]

[split bramble]

would it be funny if ador is just nicking the girls' pics off internet and posting it?

[stiff prairie]

i actually thought this is the case lol. the official ig posted same thing as jeanzforfree only a couple hrs later for both vogue and omega photos

[split bramble]

tbf thats what odor/hybe are saying, its possible to not be true like many of their past claims have shown to be

sometimes simple contacts like 'nj girls have officially left ador so new brand deals cant go through via them anymore' can get twisted into hybe wordplay

[stable escarp]

Nj offical ig management is a mess im ngl. They js posted the gucci photos 2hrs later than twitter

[split bramble]

being first is hard when you dont get given resources first

[rain spade]

Official acc went down from 13m to 12.9m

[split bramble]

I see NJ making a deal with apple music similar to the billie eilish one

[acoustic marsh]

It cud be that the managers left with them too after they terminated their contract & cud also be they work for the members as a freelance manager since they still hv contacts for brands etc.?

[jolly junco]

according to hanni latest insta udpate, they are still living in that apartment.. hmm

[hoary frost]

She said it was a few months ago

[jolly junco]

ah right

[hoary frost]

Oh wait maybe she wrote it a few months ago but only filmed it now

[hushed whale]

prob filmed a few months ago

[mental lynx]

no it says (and filmed the clip) a few months ago

[hoary frost]

Yh

[tired cairn]

presumably if she filmed the clip recently she'd have said it a bit differently?

decided a title (and filmed this clip) for this song I wrote (…) a few months ago

[opaque torrent]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1869446114816233840

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

HYBEcels: Without HYBE securing the deals, NewJeans would never land any high profile and blue chip brand deals or magazine covers!

HYBE: We wrote NewJeans 273 press releases in 2023.
(https://t.co/CAMXFsFnuz)

Twitter · Dec 18, 2024, 6:14 PM

[red thorn]

True that those ytbers legal experts not mentioned this case, strange
This case must be the closest example
https://fxtwitter.com/thegreatgaram/status/1869421220980195698

[kind totem]

and 1000+ on downplaying newjeans in a month 😂

[heady gate]

The NewJeans Official IG account is losing members rapidly.

[fleet nebula]

do we unfollow? what is the NJCord stance to adhere to? 😮

[steel depot]

https://x.com/talytokki/status/1869421880211611942?t=pZqwm3lCXnKmGqVAYklA9A&s=19

taly (@talytokki) on X

so ador confirmed that the contract between Omega and Dani was established after the termination. therefore, there was no violation of ador’s exclusive contract. gotcha!! 😭

hybe are such sore losers 😩

Twitter · Dec 18, 2024, 4:38 PM

[hoary frost]

hybe stans deluded themselves that ador is only keeping quiet or not suing for strategy whos gonna tell them? 😂

[steel depot]

fr

[cosmic belfry]

The wording doesn't necessarily imply the most recent campaign was directly signed. I believe that was signed through ADOR and they're talking about a new contract after this. Furthermore, the VOGUE shoot had included Danielle wearing an Omega watch. So unless this was done all in a span of two weeks, these are likely prior to termination.

[hoary frost]

*twt https://x.com/minggom_16/status/1869612713816862990?s=46

[harsh dove]

@Minggom_16 <t:1734585381:d>

[jolly junco]

OMG i think this is the first time i heard the artist/idols do a donation under their fandom name

[cosmic belfry]

Inspiring generosity from Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein.

[hoary frost]

Right? They r so 😭

[jolly junco]

yeah i never heard things like that since 2009 in kpop, CMIIW tho

usually they only tried to donate as anon, but the media still found out

but donating under their fandom name is the first time i heard since i know kpop

[short laurel]

We should be sharing this more on twter

[red thorn]

Where the associations when this happened
https://www.instiz.net/pt/7656173

[short laurel]

I remember bts was blamed for something but back then it wasn't illegal (it is illegal now). Bts apologized for it publicly but cuz there was no lawsuit on it, fandom now says it never happened.
The fact that bts member apologized is proof enough.

[heady gate]

5pm kst on Thursday. any mediaplay?

[red thorn]

Meh only saw article from usual ten asia cho jiye the sharp-objective-precisely analyze 'one point' you missed from reporter's perspective

[cosmic belfry]

I just realized the person who said it was canceled might be referring to their job/role getting canceled or falling through. So if they were talking about it around December 6, maybe the shoot did happen that month.

Also they posted again in regards to the January issue.

https://www.threads.net/@moonaoq/post/DDtwLMeS5LJ

Looking at the photos from the January issue released today,
I feel a bit more at ease.
I thought to myself, "Thank goodness it was only at that level."

Someone replies

The photo shoot that came out yesterday was less impressive than I thought... hmm.

Seems to imply they weren't involved.

[gentle badger]

Given their reaction, it's a good thing they were not involved, wth

[heady gate]

who are those ppl commented on Threads.net?

[red thorn]

Isn't Threads basically Meta's Twitter
So, followers

[cosmic belfry]

Prob just a colleague of theirs. It's the only comment.

[red thorn]

Hmm so it's more about vogue and that designer deal that fell through

[fierce cloak]

random but I kinda want the girls to rebrand as RealJeanz rather than just Jeanz 2 syllabels

[split bramble]

when they launch a phoning alternate I want them to name it 'JeanzNotFree'

[short laurel]

It's cost alot to make something like that. Phoning backend was weverse so they had that support. If they start a new company, they'll need to save up a lot of funds to make one n maintain it.

[stable escarp]

we js gotta wait until theyre fully established and have investors

[red thorn]

True it needs support that alr established
Meovv has their own too, not weverse but their own label

[fierce cloak]

Honesty it's a bit unnecessary to use exclusive platform just to communicate with fans, but i guess Phoning made a lot of money through subscription

[split bramble]

very important to have your own ecosystem built like that, leaving a lot of money on the table otherwise

[red thorn]

If anything it's fandom experience point, immersive
Yeah, there's money too

[short laurel]

Oo nice odor missing out on phoning money too lol

[split bramble]

another positive is it helps artists' mental health

they'll always wanna communicate with fans but social media is a cespool, premium communication service weeds out the toxic bots

[split bramble]

a decade from now this whole ordeal will be seen as the biggest fumble in music industry by a label

[short laurel]

A decade? It's already seen as one now. All hybe had to do was let ador do whatever it's doing.

[waxen musk]

It actually midly irritates me that everyone is ASSUMING they're called Jeanz when the girls have never said they are. Not saying they couldn't later reveal they are, but at this moment they aren't even using it on Vogue and are donating as "Bunnies".

[hoary frost]

Because Bunnies isnt trademarked right

[waxen musk]

If they do want to temporarily use "Jeanz" while fighting for their NewJeans IP, they would have to copyright that and there's no indication that they are right now.

jeanzforfree Instagram account name = everyone assuming they're called Jeanz, just wish people understood the reality.

[red thorn]

only Jeanz awfully similar to og Jeans

[frozen bronze]

probably cant be

[short laurel]

Better than using newjeans

[waxen musk]

Yeah it's fine everyone is grouping together to use the name for now. It's just going to confuse everyone again when they do eventually get themselves a new name if it isn't Jeanz.

[short laurel]

People need something to call girls. It's easier to use jeanz than saying each member's name, n people not want to use newjeans for obvious reasons.

Unfortunately that's how things ago. Can't do much about it. It's up to people who are aware of this to spread the name when they eventually rebrand. Though it'll be better if they win newjeans ip but that's a battle that'll take years

[waxen musk]

Pain in the arse lol

[red thorn]

Well yeah there's that, the intent to pursue the NewJeans name
I'm probably gonna still call them that here, or nj, jeanz, etc.

Hmm seems another performance director unfollowing nj official

[hoary frost]

The comments during the girls performance was extremely disturbing

[short laurel]

Always ignore youtube comments in live streams. Not just during newjeans but anything in kpop. It's always disgusting like that.

[red thorn]

I'm not watching rn
But I saw the live chat in the beginning, plenty of other hybe groups fans

[hoary frost]

Peripheral vision while trying to leave comments too

[short laurel]

I watched the performance n left. Not watching the whole thing

[hoary frost]

Newjeans has another part, 3 more songs

[short laurel]

Ik. Will be pinged so no issue.

[ashen charm]

We should call them the Phams

[grizzled summit]

I dont understand why are all hybe stans soo mad at newjeanz

[waxen musk]

I don't even care. I've been so happy since their new account that's all I've focused on.

[hoary frost]

They r hybe stans

[grizzled summit]

like look at all the youtube comments im honestly soo sick and tired, they're doing this just because they think BTS hybe is the king of kpop, when infact BTS members dont even know they exist

[hoary frost]

I try to ignore the comments but like it js lingers after seeing it like the comments abt Hyein is utterly disgusting u feel me

[grizzled summit]

ikr

[waxen musk]

Hyein comments? I'm glad I haven't seen any but I really wonder what they could have said about her specifically.

[hoary frost]

Real disgusting stuff

[waxen musk]

I'm clueless what is happening.

[grizzled summit]

he's literally paid by hybe and keeps talking crap about the girls and mhj
if u dk who he is hes a wannabe lawyer or smth search him up on yt

[waxen musk]

?????????

[grizzled summit]

no wait I MEAN SeouliteTV

[hoary frost]

Ohhh

[waxen musk]

you REALLY confused me

[tardy smelt]

[grizzled summit]

omg me myself got confused

[red thorn]

Jason? Lawyer?

[grizzled summit]

yall i got confused for a sec coz my sis told the name jasontheween so i typed that instead 😭

[red thorn]

Haha

[waxen musk]

JasonTheLawyer

[short laurel]

Seoulite don't know shit, his content is garbage, just like him.

[copper jetty]

I'm glad then that I just watched the YT and didn't open the comments.

[opaque torrent]

Maybe they originally had a traditional hanbok theme but changed into a modern-dresses styled like hanbok.

The reply is rude and jealousy.

[red thorn]

The reply from nugu
The designer reaction understandable tho knowing where they are coming from, their work is no joke either

[opaque torrent]

Yeah their work is beautiful

[short laurel]

But is it necessary to look down on another's work? Regardless of how good your work is. That type of reaction only makes them a petty person.

Even mhj haters at least admit her work is good.

[red thorn]

Sure it came off petty, but I kinda give it a pass for some reasons bc they're salty of the fail project and prideful of their work, doesn't mean entirely looking down on people's work I think
Also can't be sure about the nuance in non translated phrasing

[short laurel]

Ok fair point.

[opaque torrent]

It’s okay. Their post gave me jjinjins schadenfreude

[polar owl]

As a fan, all of this is really depressing 😔. I can't help but wonder what kind of mental toll this is taking on jeanz members. Hope they stay strong.

[opaque torrent]

Looks like alleged NJ x Fortnite is canceled or delayed https://x.com/shiinabr/status/1869512576062861433?s=46

Shiina (@ShiinaBR) on X

HATSUNE MIKU X FORTNITE FESTIVAL - JANUARY 14

Twitter · Dec 18, 2024, 10:38 PM

[pulsar wasp]

I’ll still be referring to them as NewJeans, NWJNS, NJ, until the members tell us otherwise.

[waxen musk]

NewJeans Never Die

I think it's fine to call them Jeanz while ADOR has their IP.

Would it be possible for ADOR to license out the NewJeans IP for new products without the girls' say?

And would it be possible for them to do so with or without the girls' likenesses?

I assume their likeness rights were tied to their contract which has now ended in the eyes of the girls. But we know ADOR is still in the denial stage.

[pulsar wasp]

I don’t think any one of us can accurately answer this, w/o the exact verbiage of their contract(s). Anything atp would just be speculation.

[neon igloo]

Yeah, we don’t know the terms of the contract, there might be a clause stating that even after the contract is terminated or expires, ADOR has the right to use photos and content featuring the girls and post them on their channels.

If such a clause doesn’t exist, then we probably need to wait for a legal ruling confirming that the contracts were terminated and are no longer legally binding. After that, the girls would be able to sue for the unauthorized use of their likenesses

[waxen musk]

Hasn't even been a week since jeanzforfree has started to prove nonbelievers wrong. Imagine how things go weeks from now. Really exciting.

[jolly junco]

lol nonbelievers

[astral dust]

*x -c https://x.com/pannatic/status/1869781360887656914?s=46&t=kXGhBk_3DiP7ccDDKf8qcQ

[harsh dove]

@pannatic <t:1734625589:d>

Text messages of Big Hit Ent. (HYBE)'s involvement in Sajaegi in 2015 exposed in an online community, K-Netz react

https://pannative.blogspot.com/2024/12/evidence-of-big-hit-hybe-manipulating.html
#HYBE #하이브

[steel depot]

keep it coming

[short laurel]

How people saying "hybe didn't existed back then" missing that everyone talking about bighit

[short laurel]

N this. Someone pls help me look for it. It should be the very same case. I remember bts member apologized publicly for it proving hybe did this

Actually there was lawsuit in it but it wasn't illegal back then so court let them go.

[hoary frost]

Alot of cases relating to Bts

[short laurel]

The one where they apologized. Look for that.

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1869975296197239160?s=46

Kpop Charts (@kchartsmaster) on X

ADOR releases statement on Hanni’s visa expiration:

— “Our exclusive contract with NewJeans is still valid, so we are preparing the documents for visa extension accordingly.”

https://t.co/mY4jIajfWB

Twitter · Dec 20, 2024, 5:17 AM

Ador now threatening with visa nice typical hybe

[stiff prairie]

lmao they're just catering to their hate bots. maybe they saw those reddit comments about visa ig

as if she can't get a visa on her own

[hoary frost]

Still alot LOL

[short laurel]

Bighit blamed for sajaegi n members apologied. Find anyone. That's proof enough

[hoary frost]

Oh the chart manipulation one

There was no apology issued by the members

[flint stone]

Why do we talk about bts when it's says NJ updates?

[stiff prairie]

cause bts paved the way 🫡

[flint stone]

What

[hoary frost]

Bighit allegations = More beef on Hybe = Less company stans = More NJs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046967001614131311/1318883353583157360/IMG_6250.gif

[stiff prairie]

just smth that shows up on my twt trending every week or so

[short laurel]

I remember there been one that's why i m asking for help in finding it.

https://x.com/diorkitty_0515/status/1869980840610148396?t=nFfUKwD1dh1Wh6LFWyn5fA&s=19

supernatural #jeanzforfree (@diorkitty_0515) on X

@kchartsmaster They released more statements after the girls left compared to when the girls are asking them to fix ADOR 😭

Everyone point and laugh to the clownass duo HYBEDOR 😂🫵

Twitter · Dec 20, 2024, 5:39 AM

[hoary frost]

“Please come back to us! We’re sorry!”

[tardy smelt]

This is interesting. Is the referenced article factual? The part about Hanni’s visa requirements.

[hoary frost]

Whats the article about? Its full Kor

[split bramble]

its subtle threat, they cant submit any visa application without hanni's signature anyway

[tardy smelt]

Disregarding Ador’s statement. I’m just talking about the visa requirements rn.

[short laurel]

Someone here mentioned a few days ago that most likely hanni has a different visa so she can stay longer without agency.

[split bramble]

the girls will be opening up their own agency before visa runs out, then she'll renew

[tardy smelt]

What alternative visa is there?

[tardy smelt]

Technically, wouldn’t the visa be void from the moment she’s no longer under an agency?

[short laurel]

There are different levels depending on your contribution to the nation.

[short laurel]

There's grace period

[tardy smelt]

It’s been more than 15 days, and nothing seems wrong with Hanni’s visa situation, so I assume it’s sorted.

[stiff prairie]

guys visa isn't that big of a deal esp considering the fact she has a strong aussie passport and yeah she's a celebrity

[short laurel]

Hanni must have already made arrangements regarding it. Their parents n lawyers aren't idiots like hybe stans like to think

[tardy smelt]

Which visa would she have now considering the current situation then?

[stiff prairie]

she's working with a lot of brands (that requires her to do photoshoots in kr) so ig work visa is still on

[short laurel]

Also she still has activities they agreed with odor prior to 29th November. So visa should still be valid for that. They usually consider all of these things

[heady gate]

Hanni understands her visa status more than anyone here. I am sure she resolved.

[tardy smelt]

Makes sense. But is the part about her needing an agency for her current visa true? If so, does that mean they consider her still under an agency?

[stiff prairie]

yeah hybecels might think getting a visa is tough work but not when you're literally the hanni lmao

[short laurel]

Not something we know. But she donated alot of money in korea.

Trainee period is included

N girls are literally ambassadors of korean tourism a government agency. They'll make it work

[heady gate]

The Australian Embassy will make it works.

No stress at all

[tardy smelt]

Cool. Was asking purely out of curiosity

[stiff prairie]

yeah it's all big nothing burger. I'm sure hybe hates us fans being happy so they'll say whatever to put a dent on it

[hoary frost]

Ok wait I have a genuine question, so for example, the maximum a Vietnamese can stay in Sg without extension is 1 month but once they travel from Sg back to viet then bck to Sg, the 1 month period resets
Idk but if theres such thing in Korea too, cant she js go bck n forth Australia n Korea

[ashen charm]

but visas do expire doesnt matter if your famous or not sadly

[stiff prairie]

and they can be renewed as well

[heady gate]

The Embassy can renew it easily.

[short laurel]

There's always exceptions when you have money

[ashen charm]

kinda they would have to apply for an extension if the visa isnt renewed by ador and so forth

[dusk nymph]

*x -c https://x.com/aidorudaisuki/status/1869986855355331016?s=46

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1869986855355331016 does not contain any media!

[stiff prairie]

~t https://x.com/aidorudaisuki/status/1869986855355331016

[narrow seal]

241220 aidorudaisuki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/aidorudaisuki/status/1869986855355331016
If your employment contract ends or you change employers, you must notify the immigration office immediately and take the necessary steps to change or renew your visa accordingly. Switching from an E-6 Visa to a D-10 (Job Seeker Visa) is a valid option for continuing to reside in

[tardy smelt]

Yeah, this is the info I was asking for, thanks

[heady gate]

We know Hanni is in S Korea and you guys are trying to find out how she renewed her visa without an agency?

[tardy smelt]

I’m just curious how it works

[heady gate]

Embassy fixed it

they can bend the rule.

I seem it before

[short laurel]

When there's enough money or reason everyone bends the rules.
One can get PR anywhere they want without any of the requirements if they spend enough money lol.

[stiff prairie]

i'm telling you the main reason people have problem getting visa is if they don't have enough bags in the bank or not a strong passport so visa office has to speculate that this person is going to go home before time and not cost the taxpayer's money. hanni is not like you and me. she in fact will get kr more in taxes and stuff lol

[heady gate]

You don't need money to bend it. You need special status to bend it. What is Hanni's special status? She is the face of South Korea.

[ashen charm]

ador making this lawsuit to easy

[short laurel]

I said money OR reason. There's reason for hanni.

[heady gate]

For normal ppl like us, we have to follow all the guidelines, but Hanni is a little different.

[short laurel]

Yup

[tardy smelt]

What did they even hope to gain from that statement

[stiff prairie]

yeah and i fear hybecels will come at her for this. oh look mistreated girl gets privilege in getting visa etc

[tiny peak]

hanni ain't going nowhere

[short laurel]

Privileged is hybe for keep getting away with their bs thx to nepo baby bang n his family in politics.

[hoary frost]

Like they said “We dont know whats going on”

[ashen charm]

to make hanni look like she has special visa privileges i guess ador give it up

[tardy smelt]

Anyway, hypothetically, if she’s done it the normal way, and she’s currently on a D-10, which is valid for 3 months, does that mean the girls are planning to be under a new agency within the next 3 months so Hanni can get back on the E-6? I was asking questions because I wanted to speculate on what the girls’ plans are.

[short laurel]

We don't know. It's none of our business. She'll handle it on her own. N her visa should still be valid until the promised activities they signed prior to 29th November. No way they didn't consider this point.

[heady gate]

Since we are on the same subject, do you guys know BSH has stayed in the US for more than 3 months.? That mean he is using a US Visa, not a Korean travel Visa.

[stiff prairie]

might be business visa too but idc that's none of our business

[short laurel]

He invested so much in that company n owns a mansion in usa. So he can stay really long time in usa.

Should even be able to apply for pr.

[heady gate]

It is Friday 3:42pm kst. Any mediaplay this week?

[short laurel]

The one above

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/poppykpoppie/status/1869995245255176224?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

odor just be throwing one lie after another to save face.
legally, hanni can just buy a piece of land and switch her visa status from an E-6 to either a D-8 (foreign investment) or F-5 (permanent residency coz she checks out all the qualifications)..its not that hard, odor.

Twitter · Dec 20, 2024, 6:36 AM

[heady gate]

Ah, it is about Hanni's visa. Ok.

[jolly junco]

Just like how BSH can stay in US for that long

[stiff prairie]

btw is this according to kr law? i mean if it's not stated specifically it can't be used as arguement

[ashen charm]

yup The F-5 type visa is the permanent residence visa for South Korea. The eligibility requirements you need to meet to get it are: Investing nearly 600 million KRW (500,000 USD) or more in a Korean business and hiring five or more locals. Marrying a Korean citizen or an F-5 holder.

[tardy smelt]

Interesting stuff

[ashen charm]

i think it only applies to usa idk kr law to good

[short laurel]

Half a million easy for them.

hanni got many options, no need to worry

[jolly junco]

yes, also IMO hanni got the most brand deals out of the 5 of them, so technically she have that money to spend

[tardy smelt]

Remember the rumor that the members established a management company? Hypothetically, if it were true, that’d easily knock out the visa issue

[stiff prairie]

applies to kr as well

[tardy smelt]

*x -c https://x.com/newjeansoutfits/status/1869993083519082790?s=46

[harsh dove]

@newjeansoutfits <t:1734676068:d>

i dmed the hanbok designer that said the vogue shoot was canceled because i assumed their designs were used but turns out there was some changes, interesting…

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/RubyValentine__/status/1869992707315380312

i hope hanni closed the comments for her last instagram post

RubyValentine_ 💙🩷💛💚💜 (@RubyValentine__) on X

@CakeDegg And now nasty Fandoms are calling her an illegal immigrant and are telling her to leave South Korea on social media. There was no reason for that company to air this out in public and now she is subject to even more harassment. I hate ADOR, for real.

Twitter · Dec 20, 2024, 6:26 AM

[flint stone]

If no I think we should go and report any bad comments

[jade jolt]

The comments are not closed yet

[tardy smelt]

Man if my comment was completely buried in the sea of nice comments (), we can easily drown out those type of comments

[hoary frost]

And the crowd goes silent bc Fraudor is bull again

[wind monolith]

Hoping court can be quick with their decision