NJZ Updates and Discussion

[dapper root]

in how they do things

[stiff prairie]

since this is brought up what you'd have preferred them do tho? like no press only letter to ador? or they go the usual injunction by artists ways?

[dapper root]

uhhh i think they should’ve maybe had a rep there?

to help them with some of the questions

it seemed like some questions it was tough for them to answer

[stiff prairie]

i think that move was more so in a way done to show others that they've grown up and taking things in their own hands

[heady gate]

Don't engage it this conversion with him. He is not mentally mature.

[dapper root]

damn

[hoary frost]

Still dk y hes still a mod 🤣🤣

[stiff prairie]

yeah they could've easily put a lawyer but the message to the fans wouldnt've been remotely as strong as when they showed up themselves

[dapper root]

yeah and that in itself is a media strategy just wondering if it was a good one i guess time will tell

[high totem]

chill with the comparisons

[tawdry vessel]

okay pls no personal insults.. i dont agree with damien but he has feelings too

[thorny knot]

ok and you have just left it at that and it'd be fine no need to add on

[stiff prairie]

yeah i guess. let's leave it at that

[dapper root]

yeah

[hoary frost]

This isnt the first time and once he apologizes he just does it again like clockwork

[waxen musk]

Is it over? (For now. )

[stiff prairie]

wow i'm impressed on my ability to difuse situations lol

[dapper root]

ur pretty good

[waxen musk]

Lets just give him one more chance, I'm curious.

[dapper root]

they listened to you

[stiff prairie]

everyone here loves newjeans

[dapper root]

thats true

[split bramble]

I've started keeping logs after this, definitely gonna be needed sometime later

[dapper root]

wouldn’t be here if i didnt

[hoary frost]

Better than Damien

[modern fog]

i love newjeans

[thorny knot]

yo cut it out

[dapper root]

the vcha thing just annoyed me really bad

[hoary frost]

We love newjeans ok

[waxen musk]

Who's NewJeans? I thought this was a place to argue for no reason.
Nah tbh I'm so fed up with in fighting everywhere I look that's nothing related to the girls. But I just feel like there's a real lack of spaces for me that I trust. Not Twitter, not here sometimes.

[high totem]

everyone needs to move on and stop trying to escalate the situation

[jolly junco]

https://t.co/Fy6aYmrHKV

transcript to last MHJ talk show
credits to @ juantokki

[high totem]

wow me too

[modern fog]

[waxen musk]

Wow nice! Lets all be quiet and read this for the next 10 mins.

[thorny knot]

well this channel is for new jeans talk soooo go to #kpop-chat to talk about it

[dapper root]

well someone brought it up here thats why i got angry

😭

[thorny knot]

you could have easily told them what i just told you and if they escalated it delete the message not hard

[dapper root]

when you take something like that and try to make it about NJ takes away from the original thing that was my whole point

[orchid field]

just stop talking

[dapper root]

damn..

[cedar saffron]

man what is going on

[thorny knot]

ermmm doesn't matter we moving on

[waxen musk]

https://imgur.com/a/R9kSGPB

[stiff prairie]

lukisa neumi suichida hoosdis

[thorny knot]

huh

[tawdry vessel]

you took a jab at hanni and minji here that's why we got angry

[stiff prairie]

-newjeans

[tall dew]

https://imgur.com/XGyyrhR

[dapper root]

the jab at hanni was bad

[waxen musk]

MOVE ON

[thorny knot]

can we move on

[dapper root]

oh okay someone asked me so

[thorny knot]

ah

[waxen musk]

Just repeating yourslef.

[modern fog]

[stiff prairie]

the lukers' finished up all the popcorn we should too

[thorny knot]

someone asked and i told them we're moving on from it

[hoary frost]

What

[dapper root]

we should make you in charge bo

i think it would be great

[waxen musk]

Already going against what he said he'd do.

[stiff prairie]

nah man i'm going to main chat and be a chill tokki there

[thorny knot]

no thank you i hate modding discord servers, i stick to twitch lol (even being in charge)

[dapper root]

yeah honestly i just get disrespected for existing so

ill leave the thread like i said in the first place

[thorny knot]

move on from it man

[unkempt linden]

[hoary frost]

We alr moved on from it ure js trying to victimize urself 🤣🤣🤣

[waxen musk]

STOP

[steel depot]

lol no more part 3

[stiff prairie]

bro you need to chill too like yk when you say it like that it's just asking for more

[grim hatch]

why bring it up again hkl

[hoary frost]

Awh man

[waxen musk]

We're too used to NewJeans drama, the day we have none to talk about we have to occupy ourselves with this crap.

[hoary frost]

This is the petition that came up after the NA one was fulfillef right

[stiff prairie]

there were 2. one got the whole amount even 1 week before final date. but the other one wasn't progressing well

[hoary frost]

Yeah, this one started on Nov 15th

[heady gate]

6 more days

[stiff prairie]

this didn't surface on twitter that much ig.

[short laurel]

I m a celebrity, i took a pic with this random congressman whom i don't know, now everyone is mad at me. I m only taught to smile whenever someone takes a selfie with me.

I m a celebrity, and I decided to leave my abusive company. The reporter asked if I wanted to say something about my company's toxic chairman n i said I don't want to say anything to him. Now everyone is saying my behaviour was bad n it could be used in court against me?

[hoary frost]

I think because there arent specific groups being tagged on it, its a petition for the whole kpop industry

[short laurel]

Which is why it should've got more votes but it didn't.

[hoary frost]

Its a shame

[tawdry vessel]

if hanni refused to take that selfie, damien would have called her unprofessional, the girls just cant win

[stiff prairie]

my thoughts as well. ppl really do need a common goal and a common enemy

[hoary frost]

Common goal: Bye Hybe
Common enemy: Hybe

[split bramble]

which is exactly why it didnt gain traction

[short laurel]

Anyways, everyone was so active i thought there was some news but turns out it was nothing. Smh.

[cinder narwhal]

*x https://x.com/bluepaperbook/status/1865628351748305034?t=8LpFiU0N9fkBlqFaubbgFQ&s=19

[harsh dove]

@bluepaperbook <t:1733635435:d>

[heady gate]

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2024/12/732_387876.html

[hoary frost]

Not the field day you thought it wld be

[pearl cipher]

Read through the drama above. tldr: dude says he will leave the channel and that he will prove it by his actions (perhaps listen to MHJ’s advice in the article just above), the proceeded to re-engage and argue and make excuses again.

[heady gate]

I didn't scroll up.😅

[jolly junco]

dont, for the sake of your sanity

[flint stone]

I did

[short laurel]

Just read my big msg above. Basically drama over just that.

[sweet pebble]

cancel culture is crazy😭😭

yo i took a pic with lebron my goat

lebron is ur goat in basketball? the guy associated with diddy?

yep ur a pedophile

[sage pilot]

what the fuck is this. why is he still a mod

[steel depot]

don't @ him pls TT

[sweet pebble]

are we deadass??

[hoary frost]

Thats what Im saying but people r saying we shld js let it go cos he apologized and all so ya, its over guys lets let it go

[short laurel]

It is really disappointing to c a mod write that.
Especially when he admitted to not following this drama much.

[sage pilot]

i don’t care, this mod and his friends need to go. they’re not on the side of NJ, why are we not pushing them out

[heady gate]

his friends, who?

[short laurel]

It just shows they read the msges of those 2 anti account cuz this is exactly the narrative those accounts were spreading

[sweet pebble]

yeah but that was anti tokki behaviour

[short laurel]

It wasn't even just anti Tokkie. It was a plain stupid comment.

[sage pilot]

he got like two more people who always come here to his defense, kookie and jjang or whatever their name is, i forgot

[heady gate]

oh great.

I need tim return to this server

[sage pilot]

it was an anti NJ behavior

[hoary frost]

Whos Tim

[short laurel]

That's why i added "just"

[jolly junco]

To create a chaos and divided bunnies against each other

[hoary frost]

Ok what if Damien is actually part of Team Bunnies and hes fishing for the REAL antis in this server who wld agree w him and thn he wld do unimaginable things to those antis
But we can only dream right

[jolly junco]

You watch too many kdrama

[hoary frost]

Dont we all…

[lament delta]

I'm getting a lot of hating-NJ vibes from u every time u say smth in this thread

[midnight zodiac]

all the stuff that's been happening also feels like a kdrama

[lament delta]

No way a literal mod's making a statement which DEFINITELY criticizes hanni, and then claims he's with the girls

Anti behavior right there
K I'm gonna stop talking abt this

[cerulean lake]

I think it’s fine for people to express different opinions and I understand that he was initially thrown off by the comment bringing up vcha, which could also been improved and avoided. However, I feel like his comments back always reflect whatever rhetoric the antis say online. I mean I’m pretty sure he might like NJs but I feel like whatever arguments come up from whatever he says always leave a distaste.

I just find it funny how every time he’s active in this channel, an argument appears, which is technically the opposite of what a mod should do

[wheat raft]

old mods: says bad words gets cancelled, apologizes, witchhunted, booted out of every kpop server

current mods: says things that always go against the girls says horrible things about newjeans apologises - 🥰 "forgive him he apologized!!" "lets not bring that up again!!"

[hoary frost]

I told u, Ok what if Damien is actually part of Team Bunnies and hes fishing for the REAL antis in this server who wld agree w him and thn he wld do unimaginable things to those antis
But we can only dream right

[cerulean lake]

i like ur delusions

[hoary frost]

Thanks me too

[cerulean lake]

yeah there was no reason to suddenly write abt hanni taking a pic with that old guy

[midnight zodiac]

like you don't really need to be a major fan to be a mod. but you're definitely supposed to be stopping fights and deescalating conflicts not start them

[cerulean lake]

if he was pressed about that vcha content, it would have been better to call them out and then maybe remove their comment, not escalate a whole argument

[jolly junco]

There is no “they are worse than me”

All mods should have the same standart

[hoary frost]

No I kinda feel like u do, its a Newjeans server it wld make sense to make a NJ Ult a mod

[cerulean lake]

I feel like you don’t necessarily have to NJs as your ult to be a mod, but I just feel like he secretly disagrees with a lot a things that NJs have been doing.

I mean he has his own opinions and such but he always brings up rhetoric that antis say online

[heady gate]

We should change this sub title from NJ Updates to damien/minjeans Updates

[cerulean lake]

lolz i saw ur deleted comment 👀

[hoary frost]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-zoom-gif-9282126263539827406

[cerulean lake]

he pops up once in a while this server would be ultra dead if it was just him 🙂‍↔️

[heady gate]

that is the problem

[cerulean lake]

u not slick

[hoary frost]

Im not slick, im hellokittylover2467

[cerulean lake]

speak ur truth

[humble badge]

*singular mod who has been a mod since the server started

okay but forreal you guys have gotten really off topic!!

[wheat raft]

nah people here knows that everytime he speaks others defend him

[humble badge]

get back on topic!!

[heady gate]

There is no update on the topic

Let's wait until Monday kst

[cerulean lake]

i’m not sure if that’s bad or good atp 🥲

i’m not ready for media play monday

[hoary frost]

All I knaur is now…michimichima always up and down no more spodopspe spinning round n round changin my mind…

[midnight zodiac]

Deoneun an bwa drama it's good karma

[sage pilot]

we’re only bringing this up again and again because we were not been heard several times. remove him off the mods team and naturally, this will never happen again

[humble badge]

@storm wind

Hes the only one that has the power to do it

[sage pilot]

ok thank you, @storm wind please help us resolve this

[hoary frost]

Haewon WEMO CHECK

[modern fog]

💀

[wind monolith]

ggs🫡

[hoary frost]

Well freaking said u the goat u r my unshine my only sunshine u make me hally whn skies r grey…

[humble badge]

At this point though you're kinda just preaching to the choir and it's kind of repetitive because everyone in here agrees with you

[hoary frost]

Safe journey my bro ❤️

[sage pilot]

i replied to you bc i saw you’re a mod and my goal was not to preach, but try to get the mods resolve this situation

[humble badge]

its okay just from now on I just hope to see less of it 😭

[hoary frost]

Are you Yuijeans on twitter?

[sage pilot]

no

[hoary frost]

word

[sweet pebble]

[heady gate]

https://forms.gle/MYwMcmyrMq59ipUN6

[hoary frost]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-pup-puppy-doggy-baby-gif-5551796

[sweet pebble]

https://imgur.com/3jJsH6e

[short laurel]

It's fine to disagree with
the members opinion n there way of handling things, nothing wrong with that but if one wanna argue on it, they should argue with their own solutions n claims backed by valid sources. But what i c is mod opinion was sourced from obvious bad accounts n propaganda they spread on social media. This part is the problem.
Especially when they admitted to not following this drama n know very little about it.
They simply repeated what they read without checking the validity of it or understanding the nj's position.
This is a repeated occurrence that's why people here are mad at him.

[sweet pebble]

ye but he shouldnt have said it in a way that criticizes hanni

[cosmic belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948917132459130940/1302379768557338736/togif.gif

[sweet pebble]

[modern fog]

[short laurel]

Read full. I m agreeing with u

[sweet pebble]

so damien should think before saying something😭

[hoary frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948917132459130940/1306865787172163616/swirl.gif

[pearl cipher]

A mod should have said this LONG AGO.

[pearl cipher]

Shouldn’t there just be a simple server poll?

[hoary frost]

Anoyminity or smth like tht

[hushed whale]

[river pendant]

[neon igloo]

https://imgur.com/GFQ23c6

[flint stone]

[sweet pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fire-flamethrower-burn-on-fire-gif-7684110515453159552

[thorny knot]

dispatch that you?

[thorny knot]

legit what i told him too

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1865718348702707855

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1733656892:d>

241206 Min Hee-jin - Daewoo 5th Annual Year-End Talk Concert🧢

Hanwha General Insurance x FOL:IN
"Women Who Create Genres"
Dream Plus Gangnam, Seocho-dong, Seoul

📒Notion
https://cactus-collision-4d7.notion.site/5-15596bbf4e3680c5aebfe445d7cb0f7a

📂Korean Transcript by @13neverdie 🙇
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sKu7dVtJ1F2T3PEFaP1k7_tVcht26bjIxL-HoD4J9M4

📁English Transcript
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JXCyjZOP2Ncu9zErQXpTqhCCU_FUJWGSlTModQK5CdU/edit?usp=sharing

#NewJeans #뉴진스
#민희진 #ミン・ヒジン

[sleek crest]

u funny

[lament delta]

Delulu is the solulu 😭

[hoary frost]

Thanks

[hoary frost]

Idk who told u that, but I think otherwise

[lament delta]

Who's ready for media play monday

[hoary frost]

damiens been modding this server since it was made and has not left the team. you guys are not kicking him out whatsoever

[hoary frost]

so we'd rather have mods who don't care about throwing slurs around that aren't claimable by themselves and some members with accounts of pdf file like messages? is that what we're really trying to say here?

[gentle badger]

Never ending saga

[lost violet]

uh oh another twt thread

[tawdry vessel]

this is why he keeps saying stupid shit cause you guys are always there to defend him

[tawdry vessel]

you all are bad

[hoary frost]

Make your own newjeans server then if you really believe the modding here is terrible. Be my guest

[lost violet]

this is about newjeans not damien

[hoary frost]

not our fault a handful of members constantly target him here

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-guy-skype-side-eye-shrug-gif-23659811

[hoary frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948917132459130940/1302379768557338736/togif.gif

[modern fog]

where's newjeans version

[lost violet]

dont have sadly

[wheat raft]

that person is one of their guys as well.

[hoary frost]

What's stopping you?

[hoary frost]

I wonder

[modern fog]

bro is not kanye

[hoary frost]

You're saying that as if I'm like one of Damien's lackeys LMAO no I just actually know the guy

[hoary frost]

No, Im hellokittylover2467

[cerulean lake]

bro brought the twitter energy 😭

[tawdry vessel]

A mod has been talking bad to nj members for weeks and you guys are turning blind.. Yes you guys are the worst

[lost violet]

idk i dont rlly keep up in this channel

[rich monolith]

[lost violet]

woah chill this is not gen chat

[cerulean lake]

great twt behavior

[rich monolith]

yeah please ban him, he keeps bad words to me

[cerulean lake]

it’s time to give it up. he’s basically friends w damien so of course he’s gonna defend him

lolz i called bsh a blobfish and i got timed out so i better see the same energy here

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[stiff prairie]

this is not what they mean when they say bunnies fighting 😭

[lost violet]

stop fighting the newjeans fandom is falling apart

[cosmic belfry]

GOD PLEASE BRING OUR FAMILY BACK TOGETHER

[wind monolith]

keep glazing him pull up his pants when ur done ( ill take a ban,timout whatever it is im tired of this)

[hoary frost]

Thats wat I said

[lost violet]

bruh just stop it

[cerulean lake]

the lack of content has made us distracted

[lost violet]

stop fighting

[cerulean lake]

plz bring back get up era 🥲

[hoary frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948917132459130940/1302379768557338736/togif.gif

[modern fog]

*x https://x.com/aecendio/status/1865751625727443032 -c

[harsh dove]

@aecendio <t:1733664826:d>

if you guys still think newjeans is against hybe only because of mhj then refrain from giving your stupid opinions

[modern fog]

https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1866419552848163278

. (@NJBUBBLEGUM) on X

(241210)
Channel A
[Exclusive] NewJeans Manager Reports ADOR CEO Kim Joo-young for 'Workplace Harassment' [Caption News]
Reporter Yeom Jeong-won
https://t.co/moErcaNpjf

Twitter · Dec 10, 2024, 9:47 AM

https://njb-jj.notion.site/241210-Channel-A-Exclusive-NewJeans-Manager-Reports-ADOR-CEO-Kim-Joo-young-for-Workplace-Haras-1581279fe54e8069ba62d9bedd2c75ae

[flint stone]

Karma is so real, omg

Is this safe for manager to do so? They might do something to manager since he/she still works there

[jolly junco]

lul

[heady gate]

omg, this is active

[jolly junco]

i pray she will get called to NA again for this, serves her right

[heady gate]

Good job Channel A

[split bramble]

the manager should have reported to the police instead of department of labor, that department looks after hybe

[flint stone]

There can be something in their contract, so the manager might not be able to do so

[split bramble]

that kind of contract language would be human rights violation

[flint stone]

That is what hybe doing all the time, u know

[split bramble]

yes, and one of the managers should start proceedings to challenge the invalidity of these kind of language

[warm shard]

If it's about workplace violations then police can't do much, I think. Unless it turns into something even more serious

[split bramble]

locking them up for 3hrs could fall under forced imprisonment

[orchid field]

Cook em

[warm shard]

It depends. But in my country any labor law violation complaints should be directed to an institution responsible for it

[short laurel]

ador ever since change in management, everyone under it started to have problems. this is clear indication of failure of the management. it should support NJ's case if odor ever sue them.

[arctic swan]

~t
https://x.com/musad3332/status/1866405561333596279?t=eaDdiXzxy0DUUhPyuW7kEw&s=19

[narrow seal]

241210 musad3332 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/musad3332/status/1866405561333596279
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하이브 단독 청문회 청원 5일 남았습니다.
🔻부탁드립니다🔻
https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/status/onGoing/264FE5D6B95F5641E064B49691C6967B

[flint stone]

They already did,no?

[short laurel]

public are not eally aware of what to report to what institute. atleast here if reports are made to police, they would help the person navigate to the right organisation. but idk if it really happens much. they helped me only once.

[short laurel]

only to check validity of the termination. they'll sue girls after.

[short laurel]

it's sad people not givign much attention to this.

[split bramble]

if termination is valid are there grounds to sue them anyway?

[short laurel]

they can sue regardless of it. but odor has to prove there's no breach of trust and harassment.

[flint stone]

Even if there aren't, they are still gonna sue

[split bramble]

i hope it blows up on them

[short laurel]

with everyone under the company having problems with it. it will.

[tawdry vessel]

cause the last one about removing hybe as top company that hit 50k signatures, they didnt do anything, which was super disappointing

[unborn jewel]

things be moving so fast

[warm shard]

Yes. I'm sure if it could be reported to the police, the worker would probably do that

[stable escarp]

wait seriously? nothing happened? even with 50k signatures wowee

[short laurel]

investigation is going on. they just got distracted with yoon.

[modern fog]

amongus

[stoic heron]

and I bought a newjeans plushie from shopee and as a gift they sent an ador's logo pin

[split bramble]

https://vxtwitter.com/nwjnsbts/status/1866488375899038201

trailblazers

[heady gate]

Here is the worst-case scenario. HYBE believes NJ's contract remains active. Korean labor law doesn't protect celebrities (they are not considered workers). Based on the manager A incident, HYBE's team allegedly entered an employee's household illegally. HYBE might apply the same method to NJ's apartments and take their personal devices.

[brazen ice]

who actually owns NJ apartment? whos to say they havent already investigated it while they werent there

[faint oyster]

They need to make sure the door is locked securely.

[split bramble]

the parents hired separate security detail for the girls already

[heady gate]

really?

[split bramble]

ya

[brazen ice]

i heard smthn about this but as far as i saw it was baseless?

[split bramble]

plus department of labor said hanni not a worker but an equal partner, you cant break into your partner's place

[short laurel]

Both are illegal. Doesn't matter what kind of relationship they are in. Companies under no circumstances can enter someone else's home without permission. Even police needs warrent to do so. If hybe even tried to enter girls home, police will have to arrest hybe's person.
Problem with the employee back in april was that she allowed hybe's audit member inside without fighting back.

[heady gate]

We know HYBE doesn't follow the law.

[short laurel]

Other stuff requires complicated lawsuit, hybe barging into girls home without girls permission, as long as it's in security camera, hybe will have zero defence. That's why hybe is not going to barg into girls home.

They can dodge other stuff with their bs but not this.

[errant osprey]

Well if that’s the case then they’re gonna win by lawsuit soon

[neon igloo]

What information do we actually have about the dorm? Who legally owns the dorm?

[heady gate]

HYBE entered manager A's house. Is that house owned by manager A or HYBE?

[neon igloo]

Wait about Manager A, I’m specifically curious about the girls’ dorm. Who owns it?
But generally, it’s possible that the employee lives in property provided by the company..

[short laurel]

Girls either own it or they rent it. But it's not through ador. N it's apartment, not dorm.
If it was ador's they'd have left it as soon as they terminated the contract.

N even in case of housing provided by the company, it's illegal to suddenly inspect it without permission of the one living there. Cuz that would be an invasion of privacy.

[neon igloo]

Yea I know they live in apartments, but they called to it as a dorm. ofc that's illegal!!

[mental lynx]

wait i thought they all live in the same apartment, wow i am dumb lol

[short laurel]

Yea same apartment but each got their own rooms

[mental lynx]

ohhh got it thanks

[tawdry vessel]

if the discussions happened after they terminated their contract, that's none of ador's business

[jolly junco]

Iirc the apartments was rent by ador for the girls to use it. Meaning it own by ador (because they rent it)

[split bramble]

its a good idea, toxicity drains people, you'll either fall out of love or become vengeful poster on socials, neither outcome is good
good to step back from negative places

there's difference between safe space and echo chamber, I'd like to think of this place as safe space

[jolly junco]

Phoning is the only safe space in my mind

Not even here is safe

[mental lynx]

I really hope they create something similar to phoning idk I feel like instagram could be a really toxic place

[neon igloo]

Toxic people will always be around, including in Phoning; we just need to filter out the negativity or avoid it

[cosmic belfry]

If these other entertainment companies can't be bothered making their own WeVerse, I don't see how they could unless someone volunteers.

[short laurel]

Then wouldn't girls have to empty it since they no longer under odor.

[jolly junco]

The new CEO of Big Hit said, ‘A company isn’t a place to chase your dreams or indulge in hobbies. It’s a place to make money. To do that, you need to focus on contributing to the company’s profitability. That’s what work is.’

HYBE doesnt believe in music anymore

[heady gate]

when did he say that?

[short laurel]

Don't they have to listen to bts members if they want them to resign? Since members had been disappointed in groups music direction

[modern fog]

*x https://x.com/juantokki/status/1866706963507327371 -c

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1733892596:d>

[Exclusive] NewJeans Manager A Speaks Out: “They Lied About CCTV and Threatened to Call My Parents” (Interview)
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003400843
Reported by Jeon Hyung-hwa

“They called me into the office under the pretense of discussing work, only to accuse me of misconduct.”

Manager A, who has filed a workplace harassment complaint against ADOR and its CEO Kim Ju-young, refuted ADOR’s claims that they committed any misconduct.

In an interview with Ilgan Sports on the evening of December 10, Manager A explained, “After returning from NewJeans’ Japan schedule on December 3, I was asked to come into the office to discuss an inquiry from a journalist. However, the discussion quickly shifted, and I was suddenly interrogated about whether I had contacted advertisers directly.”

Earlier that day, Manager A filed a complaint with the Ministry of Employment and Labor, accusing ADOR and CEO Kim of workplace harassment. A claimed they were lured into the office under false pretenses, handed a suspension notice, and pressured to immediately return a company laptop. A also alleged they were illegally detained for about three hours until the laptop was retrieved.

• Allegations of Forced Laptop Return and Privacy Violations

In their complaint, Manager A claimed that ADOR demanded their personal phone without any legal basis and used the fact that the laptop had been formatted—due to personal data being stored on it—as grounds for disciplinary action. Manager A maintained that all work-related data had already been backed up online.

ADOR countered by alleging that Manager A had contacted advertisers directly, bypassing the company, and encouraged them to establish direct contracts with NewJeans. ADOR stated that such actions violated the artists’ exclusive contracts.

“Manager A admitted to these communications,” ADOR said, adding, “This is a serious breach of contract. Despite being given oppo

[red thorn]

They obsessed with forensics

[red thorn]

Real? Is this the new female ceo?

[heady gate]

Yea, I just read it on X

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/tata123mimi/status/1866474121900736926

mimi 🎀𝙇𝘼𝙔𝙊( ꪜ )𝙀𝙍 🎀🧸 (@tata123mimi) on X

<RP
ハイブ新 CEOが就任した日のインタビューでの言葉だという…

『会社は夢を叶える場所ではありません。趣味でやりたいことをやる場所でもありません』
『会社はお金を稼ぐ為の場所です』

エンタメを扱う会社としてアーティストをマネージメントする会社として…にわかには信じられない

Twitter · Dec 10, 2024, 1:24 PM

[red thorn]

In the end it's idol factory for them

[heady gate]

All the artists in HYBE are screwed.

[jolly junco]

i remember some hollywood singer said something about these days music company dont look for real talent anymore, because talent dont make money she said

i forgot who

[heady gate]

Minister of Employment and Labor Kim Moon-soo, appointed by Yoon Seok-yeol, is not withdrawing the designation of HYBE as a ‘top company.

*x -c https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1866714814858531104

[harsh dove]

@CakeDegg <t:1733894468:d>

[Exclusive] “Lied About CCTV to Test Me, Then Threatened to Call My Parents,” Says NewJeans Manager A in “ADOR Accusation” Interview
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003400843

[copper jetty]

Guys from 1-10 how screwed are we?? Cause all the news I'm hearing is just...

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1866772047759921425 does not contain any media!

[jolly junco]

Dear Joo-young,

Do you think it was respectful treatment to call me back to the company for an urgent discussion when I was leaving work, and then conduct an investigation?
Despite being on my way home, I came back to the company promptly out of responsibility for the discussion, but since I hadn't expected an investigation, I didn't have my PC with me.
Even though I said I would return it tomorrow if needed, you wouldn't let me go home, insisting it had to be submitted today.
When I didn't come to the company by choice and you forcibly prevented me from leaving after I said I would submit it tomorrow, what is that if not coercion?

You even tried to test me with false information, saying 'Security reported that CCTV footage shows you entered the building with a carrier,'
and conducted the investigation in an inhumane and unreasonable way, saying 'We will contact your parents through the emergency contact information in HR to verify the facts.'
After submitting the PC, it's natural to go home, so why describe my leaving - exhausted from the investigation - as 'fleeing the company'?

You say I need to be investigated for misconduct, but I clearly explained that I only conveyed the members' requests as asked.
Regarding the fulfillment of advertising contracts signed before the termination of the exclusive contract, I accurately conveyed to the brands the members' intention to fulfill the contracts as before the termination, and accurately conveyed the brands' intentions back to the members.
I fulfilled my duty as a manager to accurately convey the members' intentions regardless of the situation.

However, you wrote in your email that I "contacted various advertisers directly and proposed direct contracts between artists and brands while excluding the company," and claimed that I admitted to this.
You are turning my accurate conveyance of the members' intentions into misconduct, as if I acted against ADOR's interests based on my own will and judgment.
I clearly stated to the brands that I was conveying the members' intentions, and made no statements that could be misunderstood as ADOR's position or as being related to ADOR.
What you wrote in your email is clearly false and an attempt to defame me.
It was a request from the members who couldn't contact brands directly, and preventing or blocking this could actually be considered misconduct.

As I mentioned before, I am the members' manager.
A manager's basic duty is to accurately convey the members' intentions and accurately relay the other party's intentions back to the members.
My basic duties as a manager don't change just because there's conflict between the company and members.

And you say I lied, but what exactly did I lie about?
I clearly stated that from what I remember now, I conveyed intentions to '000' at the members' request.
I also said I would share information after returning to Korea, and pointed out that if I were trying to hide something, why would I mention '000' now?

Please stop distorting and misrepresenting my responses.
At the time in Japan, my work priority was ensuring that members and staff could proceed with their many schedules without issues despite the confusing situation.
I was the one who respected both the company and members while proceeding with schedules, while the ADOR executives never gave any feedback or showed interest in our schedules on site.
Moreover, when outsourcing companies asked where to deposit schedule guarantees given the current situation, I told them it should go to ADOR.
It's not right to say I committed misconduct when I've acted this way.

ok its too long like a novel, you guys better read it from the source https://njb-jj.notion.site/241211-Channel-A-Exclusive-NewJeans-Manager-vs-ADOR-Email-Exchange-Made-Public-Caption-News-1591279fe54e80d89094d6f6fd867cbf

[mild mist]

Honestly: no idea

[hoary frost]

Im not hearing any news that will jeopardize the girls’ victory tho

[gentle badger]

[copper jetty]

This. Honestly I feel down... everything is just working out for hybe and I don't know how the suit will go.

[hushed whale]

[hoary frost]

Oh I completely skipped thru tht 😭 got autofilter for negative news now

[cosmic belfry]

Anyways according to the manager, they just relayed what the members said.

I accurately conveyed to the brands the members' intention to fulfill the contracts as before the termination, and accurately conveyed the brands' intentions back to the members.

I mean maybe part of that message was hoping to work with them in the future or the brand relayed back their intentions but it sounds pretty mild. ADOR tried to spin this as if the manager was making a deal behind their back or something.

[short laurel]

Nothing so far working out for anyone. We'll know what direction things go when hearing for all the lawsuit start

[jolly junco]

LMAO this is so true 😭

[steel depot]

Yep, don’t fall for their schemes. They’ll twist the story because that’s all they can do; they have no evidence against our girls.

[lament delta]

So what happened to nj?..

[hoary frost]

Left Hybe/Ador to be solo divas

[mild mist]

Shouted "so long, losers!" and then sped away on motorcycles

[lament delta]

So did they give up on fighting for their ip or they haven't even started fighting for it-

[mild mist]

Haven't started, as far as we know

i.e. nothing has been made public

[stable escarp]

i find it funny how the nj insta acc is still following mhj

[short laurel]

https://x.com/AboutMusicYT/status/1866793801890603136?t=Opw6TzR1ugQG8IaFrM1MNw&s=19

About Music (@AboutMusicYT) on X

The New York Times on NewJeans:

"Why anyone would want to get in the way of the most stylistically impressive kpop group of the past few years making tremendous, nostalgically precise and modernly sophisticated songs [Supernatural] like this one is beyond me."

Twitter · Dec 11, 2024, 10:35 AM

[opaque torrent]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1866826925899206708

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

It's so diabolical
https://t.co/eM0PNKCJcm

Twitter · Dec 11, 2024, 12:46 PM

[neon igloo]

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/best-k-pop-music-videos-of-2024-ateez-rose-twice-and-more
The music video “Supernatural” by NewJeans in it into Teen Vogue's top 15

[flint stone]

Look what I found, this statement from May is useful even now https://www.allkpop.com/article/2024/05/ador-issues-a-full-length-official-statement-refuting-each-of-hybes-accusations

[red thorn]

3 korean pop music critics asked these questions,
The sentiment difference...

[orchid field]

Kim yoonha totally off topic lol

[tawdry vessel]

do you eat vegetables bangpd

as for mhj, uhm what is your fav nj song

[short laurel]

bang do you believe in music? is funny to me

[jolly junco]

for me would be:

bangPD: Dont you feel guilty?
MHJ: whats your favorite food?

[cerulean lake]

for bangpd: how do those in n out burgers taste

[hoary frost]

bang pd... do you think you way of treating artists like your puppet instead of human your personal goal? do you feel ashamed of yourself?

mhj, does NJ1 have a playboi carti feature?

[runic knoll]

BangPD: do you often use artists' money to ran away like a trash to other country?

MHJ: what's your favorite moments with the girls NewJeans?

[stoic heron]

BangPD: how can you sleep at night knowing that you are making little girls sad?

Mhj: Do you want to be a mother?

[sleek crest]

kim yoon ha 😭😭

and the do you believe in music lol

[jolly junco]

they did it OMG

[runic knoll]

what is it?

[short laurel]

what miracle happen? it almsot seemed like it wouldn't go through

[short laurel]

there was another one going on about SLAPP. any idea about that ?

[jolly junco]

They made a small banner with the QR code and spread it where people protested for the korea president

Like this

Genius

[short laurel]

xD

[heady gate]

8.2k votes in 1 day. https://x.com/newbaram/status/1867178531169665492

이러려고 만든 트위터가 아닌데... (@newbaram) on X

오늘은 하이브 청문회 청원이 성립 되면서 가장 많은 찬성을 확보한 날이 되네...
https://t.co/DvVAUI7UHN

Twitter · Dec 12, 2024, 12:03 PM

[steep torrent]

thats crazy, I didn't think they'd do it

[jolly junco]

*x https://x.com/newjeans_loop/status/1867328205440622985?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

[harsh dove]

@newjeans_loop <t:1734040712:d>

[jolly junco]

NJ hire more bodyguard 😳 wow there are maybe 10 or more bodyguards for NJ now

[heady gate]

at least 15

[buoyant hamlet]

more eyes to scope out stalkers

[marble cape]

where are they going?

[tardy smelt]

Japan for Music Bank Global Festival

[sage pilot]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/108/0003289112

«[Exclusive] Decision to Refer to Mediation for Damages Lawsuit between Former Adore CEO Min Hee-jin and Former Adore Employee»

~t https://x.com/mnn26729/status/1867356114226229644?s=46

[narrow seal]

241212 mnn26729 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/mnn26729/status/1867356114226229644
the court referred the former ador staff’s lawsuit to mediation if both sides agree it ends if not it continues

[gentle badger]

[heady gate]

mediation with HYBE bullies?

[short laurel]

With that employee B

[copper jetty]

Oh lmao.. I doubt employee b would agree

[shy schooner]

They fully protected

[hoary frost]

Army

[jolly junco]

i have a BTSD with this word

[hoary frost]

HAHAH

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1867434283692081526

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1734066003:d>

‘Idol Documents’ Scandal: Will HYBE Face a Parliamentary Hearing? National Petition Exceeds 50,000 Signatures
https://n.news.naver.com/article/005/0001745695
Reported by Senior Journalist Jang Ji-young

The petition for a parliamentary hearing on HYBE has surpassed 50,000 signatures, fulfilling the requirements for submission to the National Assembly. According to the National Assembly’s electronic petition site as of December 13, the petition titled “A Hearing and Legislative Review Regarding the Social Controversies Caused by Major Entertainment Companies and Their Legal Loopholes” has received over 50,000 signatures within 28 days since its publication on November 15.

In accordance with relevant laws, petitions garnering more than 50,000 signatures within 30 days are officially submitted for review by the responsible committees of the National Assembly to decide whether they will be referred to a plenary session.

The petitioner, identified as Kim, stated in the document:

“There are allegations that ○○○ has produced, distributed, and implemented reports containing defamatory views targeting competitors in the same industry. Accusations include the monetization of a monopolistic platform (○○○/Weverse), insufficient disclosure of internal transactions between affiliates, unfair internal transactions between labels, forced album overproduction, and violations of fair trade laws.”
Kim called on the National Assembly to investigate these issues through a hearing and address gaps in the current legal framework. While the petitioner used the placeholder “○○○,” the content makes it clear they are referring to HYBE.

The petition also includes demands for investigations and legislative action on several matters, such as:

•Compliance with public records management laws and accountability for violations,

•Violations of fair trade laws and insufficient regulatory frameworks,

•Investigation of possible breache

[heady gate]

HYBE must be busy today.

[stiff prairie]

Are we optimistic about this one? Iirc they just straight up said no to the second petition regarding removal of top work place thingy.

[hoary frost]

yall see the kmca statement

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1867442284532257232

[harsh dove]

@kchartsmaster <t:1734067910:d>

Korea Music Content Association urges K-pop award shows and music programs to boycott NewJeans and ablume (Saena, Sio, Aran) future activities in order to prevent future “tampering” attempts from other K-pop acts:

— “Circle Chart should consider excluding the sales of albums and music from the agencies and artists that have been suspected of tampering. In addition, Circle Chart should also consider excluding data from music show programs such as M-Countdown, Music Bank, Inkigayo, The Show, Show! Champion and other music broadcasting programs. Also, major music awards ceremonies in Korea (Circle Chart Music Awards, MAMA, Golden Disk) should exclude these artists.”

https://m.entertain.naver.com/now/article/477/0000525629

[heady gate]

Now we have Korea Music Content Association

[stiff prairie]

next up all these associations and their associates will say hybe, who they are not working for won't send their other groups to these show if they keep inviting newjeans

[tiny peak]

good we never have to care about stupid meaningless awards again, just appreciate the amazing music

did anyone solve Hanni's riddle?

[modern fog]

https://x.com/hannihourly/status/1867350472597627193 nothing special

[tiny peak]

thank you. that's my symbolic queen

[copper jetty]

Guys what's kmca? Is it the same with komca?

[heady gate]

no, KMCA creates and manages Circle Chart

[tiny peak]

I have this theory that this just makes NJ even more popular domestically

[red thorn]

All of these associates turn a blind eye on hybe's misconduct, they do not care suspicions in that side

[heady gate]

There is no announcement from KMCA, therefore it could be media play

[copper jetty]

Circle chart?? What do they do??? Also what's with the tampering issues??? I don't even know how'd they come to that, they don't even have proof

[copper jetty]

Well they aren't one of the big 4 for no reason

[heady gate]

Circle Chart is like a Korean version of Billboard chart

All Korean music shows and award shows use their data

[copper jetty]

Well... I don't think it's a big deal though. We don't love newjeans because of their awards... we love them for their music.

[heady gate]

KMCA provides music certification to artists.

[copper jetty]

Certification for what?

[tiny peak]

and it just makes them even more likable, always fighting against a corrupt system

[copper jetty]

Oh wait like the million sellers etc

[heady gate]

https://circlechart.kr/page_cert/page.circle

This could be mediaplay. We have to see the KMCA official annoucement.

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/Jeff__Benjamin/status/1867453546465316981

Jeff Benjamin (@Jeff__Benjamin) on X

Bold for them to unilaterally decide that people supporting, buying and listening to certain artists shouldn't count on a local chart...

It's going to be very awkward when they appear on Billboard's international charts though

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 6:16 AM

clock them!

[tardy smelt]

We know who Jeff is definitely rooting for now haha

[jolly junco]

he kinda switch side ever since HYBE/FRAUDOR used his name with false information

[copper jetty]

Yeah lmao. Also if newjeans wins the suit watch them retract this lmao.

The kpop industry is just scared because of the ripple effect newjeans actions might cause.

[cosmic belfry]

Yea I wasn't quite sure what stance Jeff Benjamin was taking before.

[tardy smelt]

Anyway, I read the article. They’re scared asf about the possibility of artists thriving without agencies.

[copper jetty]

They don't even have evidence that this is tampering

[jolly junco]

there is nothing wrong with that

[tawdry vessel]

but we know the person who handles kchartsmarters twt acc is an hybe employee

[copper jetty]

Yeah... that account is sus

[jolly junco]

these old geezers just afraid they cant control, abuse and mistreat these children under said agency anymore

[heady gate]

true. I don't trust the source

[tawdry vessel]

always so fast when it's hybe media play

[runic knoll]

yep people shouldn't supporting Korea Music Content Association and circle charts anymore

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1867445039850565650 does not contain any media!

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1867450703226319162

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1734069917:d>

KMCA Issues a Statement Urging NewJeans Members to Return to ADOR...
https://theqoo.net/square/3527861756

Below is the full statement from the Korea Music Content Association (KMCA):

The Korea Music Content Association (KMCA) is committed to eradicating tampering that threatens to undermine the foundation of the South Korean music industry.

December 13, 2024 (Friday)

The KMCA has expressed grave concern over recent attempts at tampering in the popular music industry, a practice that has the potential to shake the very foundation of the South Korean music scene. The association declares its intention to make every effort to eliminate tampering.
Tampering, which involves external producers employed by entertainment agencies persuading young and promising artists and their parents to break exclusive contracts with their original agencies, has already been witnessed in the FIFTY FIFTY case.

Not long after the FIFTY FIFTY incident, a media outlet raised suspicions of tampering against Min Hee-jin, the former CEO of ADOR. Regardless of the truth of these allegations, they highlight how pervasive tampering has become within the industry, a deeply troubling issue. This incident also demonstrates that tampering can occur not only within small agencies but also within major entertainment companies, leaving the association unable to remain idle.

If such incidents continue to occur, agencies will no longer be able to hire outstanding producers or allow external contractors the autonomy to interact with artists. Furthermore, if internal or external producers exploit close relationships with artists and their families to break contracts or misuse intellectual property and trade secrets, it will become impossible for agencies to discover new talent, produce albums, or secure investments.

In the FIFTY FIFTY case, the members who withdrew from their agency have already signed exclusive contracts with other agencie

[runic knoll]

Fuck KMCA

they Clearly doesn't care about the bullying and harsh treatment that the girls had

[sage pilot]

When I said that the blacklisting is my only real fear, ppl said it’s impossible to blacklist NJ bc it’s not 2010s anymore. But as we can see, kpop is rotten to its core, so clearly it’s possible. My disappointment in kpop grows every day

[runic knoll]

people like KMCA when making false statement with negativity stuff to harassing the girls should be investigated

[ocean arch]

They can only blacklist domestically but nj can go global

[tiny peak]

I don't even think they can blacklist domestically

[heady gate]

It seems like KMCA has no idea about HYBE media play and bully activities, instead they want NJ to honor their exclusive contracts.

NJ should stay in Japan permanently.

[cosmic belfry]

Blacklisting from a chart is pointless because if their music charts, people will look at another chart.

Music Show appearances might have mattered in the past but there are multiple online platforms where music can go viral.

[warm shard]

They're just trying to protect the status quo, because they're the one controlling and profiting the most from the contracts

[heady gate]

Basically, KMAC is telling all K-pop groups to never try to break their contracts, even when the label company is bullying the artists.

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/fifihunnie/status/1867461749215309923

fifihunnie ꕤ ablume (@fifihunnie) on X

KMCA will be violating the JYJ law passed in 2015, which prohibits broadcasters from blocking artists from appearing on their programs without just cause. The law was passed in response to SM pressuring broadcasters into blacklisting JYJ, due to their contract dispute with SM.

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 6:49 AM

[tawdry vessel]

just a hybe tactic to scare nj and nothing else

[steel depot]

Just another normal day of media play; nothing more, nothing less. The antis will eat this up again, but not us.

[tiny peak]

I'm starting to worry about the antis, like this is pathological obsession

[heady gate]

Social media outlets will take advantage of that statement. Antis love it.

[heady gate]

"a fine of up to 2% of their sales" That is too low. It should be 20%

[mild mist]

2% annual turnover is the smaller GDPR fine, and that had companies absolutely scared stiff

I'd imagine that, while being a lot less, 2% is still enough to give them nightmares

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/Phamkuromi/status/1867468522861015222

Chericheri／(≧ x ≦)＼🍒🍀 (@Phamkuromi) on X

Lee Seokcheol (18) of The EastLight accused their producer and company executives of physical and emotional abuse, claiming Kim, CEO of Media Line and also KMCA's chairman, ignored their mistreatment.

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 7:16 AM

birds of a feather flock together

[steel depot]

woah agencies and kmca are getting exposed... don't put yourself in the middle you'll get exposed too

[short laurel]

The fact they accused mhj for stuff hybe did. So messed up

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/fifihunnie/status/1867468616972874074?t=DOMAnUHE6ET6aLIcE71Opg&s=33

fifihunnie ꕤ ablume (@fifihunnie) on X

FYI, that anti-tampering (so-called FIFTY FIFTY) Act is officially dead & buried, as it never even got past the 1st committee review and they simply let it lapse. Thus, any accusations of tampering will be inadmissable as "just cause".
https://t.co/mRC1BQy7F4

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 7:16 AM

Welp apparently that tampering act didn't even pass. 💀

[steel depot]

[short laurel]

i really hope this association gets HUGE backlash both in korea and internationally. at this state it's very much needed.

[jolly junco]

i just want something SO BIGGGGGGGGG happens so that all these executives behind the industry get exposed and kpop will start with new and changed for the better

[short laurel]

the timing for this news. just when NJ leave for japan.

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1867479533445599320 does not contain any media!

[heady gate]

https://x.com/amorrmanet/status/1867441369553477742

ᙏ̤̫ (@amorrmanet) on X

뉴진스 성적 제외하고 삭제하겠다는
음콘협(=써클차트) 이사회에 누가 있는지 보세요 참 ㅆㅂ 투명하죠?

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 5:28 AM

[flint stone]

Of course they are, hybe are like rats, everywhere

[short laurel]

yea kpop companies are the board members hence it's pro company, instead of pro artists.

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1867485294242804148

TEAM CATZKANG🫧 (@catzkang) on X

Koreans are now raging because of KMCA and HYBE tried to boycott Minji, Hanni, Dani, Haerin and Hyein in the future activites and tried to tell the korea music industry to block the girls from having their own activities.

.
.

*i’ll translate soon*

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 8:22 AM

i love korean GP

[heady gate]

Korea producers association
Korea management federation
Korea entertainment management association
Korean Music Content Association

The only 1 association is missing.
Korean Music Copyrights Association

[flint stone]

At this point girls will start activities outside of Korea and then all those associations will regret everything and try to return them

[heady gate]

NJ is very famous in Japan.

[jolly junco]

how tf these association want to girlcott these girls...

[short laurel]

girlcott lol

[flint stone]

Are hybe rats in all of those associations or only in kmca?

[short laurel]

ooh girlcott is an actual word

[steel depot]

gendering a word

[short laurel]

all big kpop companies are in all of them. if hybe not in them then some other company hybe invested in and isn't part of hybe umberlla should be in.

[flint stone]

why won't they kick out this rats

[mild mist]

🇫🇷 🇩🇪 🇮🇹 .... The list goes on

[neon igloo]

I hate all these associations for their corruption. But anyway, the girls will be able to work with international partners and services, which reassures me

[short laurel]

very big in korea. SM when they pulled this with JYJ still got away with it. though we got JYJ law from that.

[mental lynx]

They could easy start in Japan they are so popular

[harsh dove]

@koreansales_twt <t:1734075422:d>

Top 10 Artists with the most Circle Index Points in 2024 (Week 49)

📝: Starting Jan 1., includes songs released last year
📝: Data is calculated from https://circlechart.kr/page_chart/onoff.circle?serviceGbn=ALL

[short laurel]

i can't trust any charts anymore. there are so many groups from different companies who's numbers doesn't make sense.

[neon igloo]

Wow, I googled what the JYJ Law is. Does this mean their entire statement is just another attempt at manipulation?

[short laurel]

yea. they'll face huge backlash if they actually blacklist anyone over this. public opinion is against hybe, not NJ.

and iirc it was women who proposed JYJ law.(don't quote me on this)

[hushed whale]

[gentle badger]

[mental lynx]

Thats on point

[hoary frost]

these associations bout to find out they'll become irrelevant soon they think the ppl are dumb they might need to remove the K in their names cuz koreans wont be fcking with them after this

[red thorn]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/008/0005128292 Shinhan Financial not renewing the contract

[short laurel]

the timing of this is makes me really sus. why again this when NJ going to japan.

[flint stone]

Maybe they scared to do anything when girls in Korea

[hushed whale]

the contract ends in december, theyre just not renewing it with "newjeans"

[short laurel]

for advetisers standpoint it'll be troublesome if they contracted with girls and odor sues them. they already mediaplayed against Shinhan financial when girls were contracted with them through ador.

[cosmic belfry]

Pretty sure a Shinhan Financial rep was interviewed and they basically said it would be difficult to renew given the situation. So basically acknowledging it prob won't get honored so no point in renewing at this point.

[short laurel]

unless it's worth the trouble for companies. expect alot less brand deals in korea for girls.

it doesn't mean that girls are not in demand. it just means Hybe is troublesome for them.

[red thorn]

Money Today's
Iirc hybe favoured

[short laurel]

ofc if court said contrct termination is valid. advertisers will come for girls.

[cosmic belfry]

Also this tells us nothing. All the advertisers aren't going to renew if NewJeans are leaving ADOR.

[runic sluice]

Unless they want NewJeans dupe but won’t get sell out effect

[cerulean lake]

so tired of all this crap smh

need that whole bs president and his political party that supports hybe + angered the whole nation to fall

the fact that hybe has so many political ties and resources to pressure others is concerning

[heady gate]

We know K-pop trainees and idols are not workers.

Based on the message above.

KMCA is telling all K-pop groups to honor their exclusive contracts, even if they are being abused by their label company.

[runic knoll]

KMCA definitely will have their downfall soon

[hoary frost]

lol makes sense why would anyone renew their contract with "newjeans" its just an empty group right now not until the girls wins the name back

[cerulean lake]

ik these brands don’t wanna go through troubles with hybe but like don’t they also have enough resources to not have hybe pressure them?

[zinc geyser]

Who's jeff?

[cerulean lake]

it’s just worrying atp seeing all of this and basically no good news these past weeks 😓

i’m not surprised abt these organizations tho. led by such shady ppl in the first place

[tardy smelt]

Jeff Benjamin, Billboard journalist. He contacted MHJ a few months back and wrote an objective article about both sides' stories.

[short laurel]

then hybe used jeff words out of context on mediaplay against MHJ. he's been against hybe ever since.

[neon igloo]

Guys, calm down. Our girls should prioritize their contracts with major fashion brands above all else. And I’m confident those brands can leverage their international influence to sign contracts directly with the girls.

This is just an example of a contract ending, and the company choosing not to renew it with NewJeans as a group because, at this point, it doesn’t exist anymore, as Minji, Hanni, Hyein, Danielle and Haerin have left ADOR and NewJeans

[hoary frost]

tbh circle chart are only good for big companies this doesnt really mean much its just to show investors some numbers it just means their numbers wont appear on that chart plus blacklisting them on tv wouldnt affect them that much ratings are dying down most ppl just watch performances online

like them not appearing on tv for a while would only raise their demand just like bp

[red thorn]

The article paint the normal thing to be such have negative connotation
It's mediaplay
The reporter said "terminated contract" as if there's breach, while in fact it's just not renew until the period contract ends.

[heady gate]

LV contract should expire on Dec. We shall see their feedback

[ashen charm]

The big 4 wrote that article?

[heady gate]

It is possible. We know K-pop trainees and idols are not workers.
KMCA is telling all K-pop groups to honor their exclusive contracts, even if they are being abused by their label company.

[neon igloo]

We just need to ignore this. Media games from HYBE will be a frequent occurrence for a very long time

[mild mist]

What we need is for the court cases to get settled

But alas, hybe has enough money to drag them out for years

[heady gate]

There are lot of court cases next year

[jolly junco]

imma just sit back and wait for the end result, this fight has taken my soul

i dont even want to see kpop again, but i still want to wait for newjeans to comeback

[mental lynx]

I just want good News

[raven kelp]

Maybe it's because i'm not thinking too deeply, but even if the worst case scenario happens, the girls have a solid fanbase and with mhj as their head, would it be really that hard for them to start afresh?

Idk i'm feeling optimistic for some reason, which is also scaring me...

[raven kelp]

Optimistic in the sense that things will work out for them in the future

[short laurel]

they'll make it just fine. if not in korea, they'll make it in japan or global.

[neon igloo]

Yes, I think so too. If they face a lot of restrictions or bans in the Korean industry because of HYBE and its scheming, they can always make a great start with international record labels and remain popular

[raven kelp]

Yes it's true and the people supporting the both parties also make sense. Like, these certain associations supporting HYBE isn't even surprising. They don't give 2 flyingfk about art, all they care about is money...yk birds of a feather...

[split bramble]

I'll just ask this, does any of the blackpink members need kmedia ?

even shadow banning domestically wont stifle nj girls, the real money is when you successfully convert to pop act from kpop act anyway

[tardy smelt]

absolute worst case scenario is we lose everything and they get generational debt. buuut it's chill . i've had a positive mindset for long time now so none of the mediaplay has worried me. i also have a good feeling that in the grand scheme of things, everything will turn out for the better.

[neon igloo]

No, it's not necessary. But using BP members as an example isn’t the best idea, because they ended up maintaining relatively good relations with YG and kept their group contracts with them. However, yes, even then there were media games from YG (the harassment of Jennie)

[raven kelp]

Yea~ tbh i'm avoiding these nj updates like the plague and only ended up here because my fatas thumb misclicked...but i still pray that we get a positive update in the near future and can listen to more of their art ❤️

[neon igloo]

I suspect that not all court cases will end positively, as there might be insufficient evidence for serious sanctions in some instances. But the most impotant ones should result in a victory for MHJ or NewJeans, I’m confident about that. And I really want to believe that this will change the entire structure of the K-pop industry

[split bramble]

regardless its not needed tho, point was jennie, lisa, rose this year showed they dont need kmedia influence like at all, they're all pop acts now

[heady gate]

true

[neon igloo]

Yes, Lisa and Rosé mentioned in their interviews that they don’t like their music being labeled as K-POP. They said they’d prefer it if it weren’t singled out as a separate category

They expressed it very carefully, not exactly as I described. But the message was that they don’t see the need to separate their work into a different category from Pop

[tardy smelt]

mhm realistic expectations. the problems are so deeply rooted, but the fact that they've got so many organisations afraid that they're shaking the foundations of k-pop gives me some hope.

[neon igloo]

Well, this is an industry where huge amounts of money are made, so it’s no surprise that it’s run by people with deep pockets... who resist change and healthy relationships with artists, as that would impact their profits. (I hate them so much)
But we only need to look at the great examples of Taylor Swift and Kesha, who after conflicts and scandals with their producers, managed to regain incredible popularity and continue their art freely

[short laurel]

good point lol

[thorny knot]

i mean new jeans already meet the criteria for a global girl group anyway so 100% could see it

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/catzkang/status/1867526446287380688

[narrow seal]

241213 catzkang Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/catzkang/status/1867526446287380688
According to MoneyToday on the 13th, there has been talk in the entertainment industry recently that NewJeans will establish a management corporation company directly invested by the members and their families.

http://m.celuvmedia.com/article.php?aid=1734085021490501007

[tardy smelt]

IndieJeans

[short laurel]

it's not confirmed yet and site is not secured.

[jolly junco]

yeah but this is what we all hope to happens

manifesting

[short laurel]

i c soo many posts of this on theqoo.

[jolly junco]

LMAO the shade

[short laurel]

they all got very few discuss but so many threads on it.

[red thorn]

This recent industry talk just speculations, the possibility of that scenario
Just like we speculate thing

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/mnn26729/status/1867480651047510074?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

👩🏻‍🚀 (@mnn26729) on X

the police chief who said they needed to dig deeper into mhj showed up today as a suspect in this whole martial law situation🫵🏻😂

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 8:04 AM

This police investigation will never see the light i’m afraid 🤣 things keeps happening and it will get delayed again 😑

[split bramble]

this is what I've been calling for, the girls already know the ins and outs of the industry, and only after 2 years found themselves with the golden opportunity to ensure they get to rake in all the profits and not share it with others

[grizzled summit]

When's the ador lawsuit over newjeans contract case happening in court

[tardy smelt]

too early to say

[paper light]

why did i think of indiana jones lmao

(don't mind me, i'm just a lurker)

[waxen musk]

Is any of the news from today actually worth worrying about? I've reached the point of not wanting to devote any more brain power to this bullshit.

[jolly junco]

nope, go back to the world dont mind the internet trolling

anything that came out not from newjeans is not worth worrying about

[short laurel]

Thing is kmca once successfully blocked an important pro artists bill once. So it worries me.

[cerulean lake]

if this were true, it would be cool to see them by themselves BUT at the same time i’m also hoping that if they sign somewhere else, that place they sign to is like influential enough to have the resources in case hybe potentially tries to do something to them

i’m worried that they might be alone making hybe more prone to causing troubles for them🥲

[waxen musk]

I just hope we start to get a better understanding of their future other than certain things that might happen or could happen. Still nothing has actually happened after they left ADOR.

Soooooo much talk from a million different people it's easy to forget.

Hopefully their obligations end in 3 weeks and we'll get a better idea soon after.

[waxen musk]

(Other than lawsuits being announced.)

[jolly junco]

Which is?

[short laurel]

https://x.com/fifihunnie/status/1867450375663759530?t=QXavqkA_31k7We-SNXL8Lw&s=19

fifihunnie ꕤ ablume (@fifihunnie) on X

1st was KMF. Next KEPA. And now we have KMCA speaking on the side of the agencies. These 3 were also part of the 5 associations that fought against the bill meant to protect underage trainees & idols, causing the bill to be delayed & eventually expire.
https://t.co/7d9PAiXOqh

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 6:03 AM

[jolly junco]

Hmm

[short laurel]

RIAK n RLIAK will come to attack nj. Let's be prepared.

[short laurel]

Any update on this? Account gine private? I can't view it

[jolly junco]

Nope

https://x.com/bunnydanidang/status/1867461048229671186?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

whats going on?

당근이🕯️ (@bunnydanidang) on X

Tokkis, now you have another reason to work harder on streaming.

When Koreans stream, that company deletes our data.

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 6:46 AM

[runic knoll]

is it okay to hope and pray for something terrible happen to any KPop agency/companies that harassing the girls and never cared about the workplace bullying and harsh treatment?

[cerulean lake]

there should be consequences for these actions so i can see why you want to see these companies and the shitty executives have their downfall

[short laurel]

https://x.com/kumachan982/status/1867502973590680053?t=H-QyZc9yhsQrpEmGLSWhgg&s=19

Kuma🧢🐰💙🩷💛💚💜 (@kumachan982) on X

In my opinion, ADOR might ask for the renewal of contract but got rejected. So ADOR suspected that Shinhan might have some secret contacts with members and then bullied the manager.

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 9:33 AM

[short laurel]

They saying since kmca blackmailed nj, they could remove all the girls achievement. So stream harder to show the world girls are still popular.

[short laurel]

https://x.com/mnn26729/status/1867600984291389727?t=WsCrFh1Bqcqn8aVGKjsfYw&s=19

👩🏻‍🚀 (@mnn26729) on X

park jiwon quit as KMCA director and now lee jaesang took over this is soooo hilarious😂😂

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 4:02 PM

Park jiwon previous hybe ceo
Lee jaesang current hybe ceo

[heady gate]

This is my *speculation *for all the brand contracts renewal.
Brands may hesitate to renew it.
I am expecting more brands withdrawal NJ.
We know the court to hold the final decision of NJ. They need to win the case.

[ashen charm]

Since newjeans aren't going by that name brands won't re-sign them which makes sense
As they aren't going by newjeans anymore

[red thorn]

The board of directors consists of executives from various agencies/companies, their statement intentions become more transparent

[polar owl]

Opinion.....I am a bit disappointed to see the support music labels have in SK - everywhere else the music company would be a facing a severe backlash from the general public

[short laurel]

They are receiving backlash from the general public. GP is more pro nj. We just not c it, especially with current issue with yoon.

[thorny knot]

Yeah homie tried to start the war up again, pretty sure that’s getting more coverage than nj vs hybe and adore

[short laurel]

Impeachment vote today. If they succeed in it, assembly will return to rest of issues. But if failed again then more delays

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/newjeans_loop/status/1867793082370208029?s=46

NewJeans Loops 🐇 (@newjeans_loop) on X

Here’s the IG acc

Twitter · Dec 14, 2024, 4:45 AM

straight from loops

Oh my gad

[jolly junco]

we dont have to worry about anything anymore, they 100000% have a plan for their future

[half knot]

if they decide to conduct new business or release new music and NOT charge for it then they might not be breaking any revenue related clauses of their contracts, that's somewhat genius

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/dollphams/status/1867810952911237589

no worries at all, the girls are gonna get their job offer soon

n 🌬️♪ (@dollphams) on X

vogue korea fashion director and vogue korea digital director started following jeanzforfree

Twitter · Dec 14, 2024, 5:56 AM

[copper jetty]

Lmao. Fraudors probably typing and preparing to release a statement again after this.

let them stay mad.

Also, does this mean tokkis are gonna be more active on Instagram then?

[half knot]

almost exactly two weeks after their termination announcement, has to be some kind of clause

[copper jetty]

It might probably... they waited to announce their new insta and probably gonna rename their Instagram too once they have a new name.

[shy schooner]

At least they can go on IG live

[heady gate]

IG live is free. I am ok with it

[jolly junco]

but i'm not OK for the free comments

[short laurel]

We know that girls see everything on social media. I m sure they understand the difference between trolls n real fans n will not focus on trolls. Best method to stop trolls is ignorance. All this shit bound to make them mature faster which is kinda sad.

What we should do is to keep cheering them on, so they only focus on positive fandom

[stiff prairie]

Only problem is ig comments are literal cancer. Hopefully they'll have adequate moderation.

[jolly junco]

they are closing the comments on their feeds for now, but i hope it will stay closed forever

[sonic olive]

Advertisers may be accused of violating ADOR's rights, as exclusive contracts prohibit members from engaging in solo activities or collaborating with third-party entities. According to industry experts, under current exclusive contract regulations, all activities carried out by members - whether through external agencies or family-run companies founded by members or their parents - are classified as breach of contract. This is in line with Articles 2, 6, and 14 of the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism's Standard Exclusive Contract for entertainers. Is this true ? This abt shinhan financial say they didnt renew their contact on nj

[short laurel]

They can't say anything about the new ig. Since it's just an ig account. They can't restrict them on social media freedom.

[stiff prairie]

Closing forever isn't a good option. I'm sure they'll have more positive than negative comments. Like their yt.

[short laurel]

They didn't renew cuz nj is empty shell now. N girls already terminated contract from their end.

[sonic olive]

But why ppl say nj breach it ?

[cerulean lake]

i think this is true if their contracts are still not terminated, which is believed to not be by ador. but honestly, idk how this all works so my inputs probably not the best

[sonic olive]

We still need to wait the court result right ?

[short laurel]

Nj didn't breach the contract even if u consider contract with ador still valid.

[red thorn]

From mediaplay echo chamber

[cerulean lake]

are you also like talking abt the manager allegedly working w the advertisers or smth

[short laurel]

Nj contract will be considered breached if they do some activities without ador which they have yet to do.

[sonic olive]

Ohhh i see it seems Jeanz breach the contract bcs ppl says that Jeanz termination contract is not valid to them

[cerulean lake]

yeah a lot of people don’t believe that their termination is valid bc it’s so unprecedented in kpop industry; that’s why ador filed a lawsuit to see the validity of the termination

however with the advertisers issue i’m not too sure abt that but it makes sense why brands don’t want to renew contract with the name newjeans if the girls are technically not apart of newjeans anymore

[short laurel]

Starting an ig is just starting a social media. It's not considered part of contract. Ador can't limit them on this.

[cerulean lake]

technically the girls are free and can do what they want right? as long as they complete the already booked events to not have it be a breach of contract?

[half knot]

I mean how many idols do you know that maintain a brand contract over many years?

[short laurel]

Yes

[half knot]

there are a few examples but generally, these kinds of endorsements last a year or two and the brands move on to somebody else

[cerulean lake]

that is true but i think with all that news coming after the kcma bs, it just made it seem worse

[half knot]

even if you ignore all the legal confusion, it's just par for the course for advertisements to change

[cosmic belfry]

It's he said, she said. ADOR has a stance and the members have a stance. It will play out depending on who wants to ride with them.

[half knot]

it's just bad timing that HYBE is mediaplaying to the max, and I guess most in the industry don't want the artists to win any rights as it would mean the slow decline of the industry's absolute control

[cerulean lake]

yeah the court might take a while to respond to the lawsuit 😓

[sonic olive]

Wee need the result as fast as possible

[cerulean lake]

this is why all these locals say the kpop industry is so cooked 🤧 i agree w them

[short laurel]

Remember everyone working at ador has problems with new management, even all of ador's partners have problems with bew management. It'll help nj case

[sonic olive]

I hate seeing those ppl hurting our Jeanz

[half knot]

understatement, it took Chuu two years to be truly free of legal entanglements, and her case was pretty clear-cut lol

NJ's case might take a lot longer

[cerulean lake]

but at least in those years she was able to have a lot of brands, release new music, so i’m hoping that it’ll be the same in nwjns case

[short laurel]

Loona members even lost the 1st injunction iirc

[half knot]

it seems probable yeah

[half knot]

yeah half of them who had their contracts modified before did get their injunctions rejected

[short laurel]

But her debt with bbc kept increasing, her mental health was not good. Loona members suffered alot.

[cerulean lake]

yeah it sucks but at least i’m happy that chuu got a lot of support and was able to do her own things during that time

it’s better than being stuck w bbc and not be able to do anything

[short laurel]

One would think it would be open n close case with how clear it was.

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/Phamkuromi/status/1867823085384347854

Chericheri／(≧ x ≦)＼🍒🍀 (@Phamkuromi) on X

Wkorea Fashion director followed them 👊🤘

Twitter · Dec 14, 2024, 6:45 AM

all these fashion director following them, meaning they still want to work together with jeanZ

[short laurel]

True artists wants to work with them. Everyone knows hybe n kpop labels has no integrity as artists

[red thorn]

Gesture of good faith

[jolly junco]

LMAO i cant

[short laurel]

Stop posting these people pls. Stop ruining the mood

[cerulean lake]

we can’t even take down some acc with like 10k followers what makes them think they can’t take down a whole acc

praying for a day someone hacks and deletes these accs (sniper, jinjjins, seoulite) 🤧🙏

[runic knoll]

someone like sniper21 most likely ADOR/HYBE Fraudrider. not surprised at all

[jolly junco]

i blocked them but it just happens to pass by my timeline just now they said its a perfect chance to report that exact post for inciting harassment hoping it will get suspended

i hope this time it will works

[heady gate]

How do we take down Sniper21 account?

[jolly junco]

they have been very careful in their wording to avoid getting suspended, but i hope this time we can get them for real

[red thorn]

Now this looks like tampering

[stiff prairie]

Jeanzforfree passed 280k alr. I wouldn't worry about these accounts and their dirty shenanigans tbh

[thorny knot]

omw

[marsh sorrel]

With mass login method

[waxen musk]

lol I'm glad I'm at the point where I just laugh at this instead of it ruining my mood like before. Did they post this before or after the girls made it obvious the account was real?

[tired cairn]

Based on the screenshot being at 12 imma say before

[jolly junco]

idk, i dont follow that account

but yes you are right, i found it funny how they behave like that

[tired cairn]

Even haters are true fans that give a lot of interactions to help them in the algo

[hushed whale]

kim eunju their performance director removed ador from her ig bio

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/hyunsuinseoul/status/1867828300846154147

Hyunsu Yim (@hyunsuinseoul) on X

In their first post from the new Instagram account, NewJeans becomes the latest K-pop idols to support demonstrators at the impeachment protests against Yoon Suk Yeol, providing kimbap and coffee.

They join IU and Yuri from Girls’ Generation in breaking norms from the industry.

Twitter · Dec 14, 2024, 7:05 AM

[hushed whale]

oh blackq too

[waxen musk]

Other than IU and Yuri, who else has shown support in the K-pop industry?

[waxen musk]

I saw people saying that but people are just checking now. Do we know if it's a recent change or not?

[tawdry vessel]

hybe artists cant

[hushed whale]

yes recent change, still there when i checked like 2 days ago

[waxen musk]

Cool. Things seems to be moving finally.

[tawdry vessel]

given bangpd's connection with the current administration

[waxen musk]

Not that any of this is any indication we'll see any changes any time soon, but it feels like things are moving along now.

[red thorn]

I think there's movement from music industry, hundreds signed it

[waxen musk]

Cool. I haven't been following it closely.

I really wonder how possible it is for the girls to be fully independent and just outsource anything they need that they can't do themselves. I don't know how feasible that is.

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/luenacore/status/1867840558775058790

luna ୨ৎ (@luenacore) on X

BLACKQ and Kim Eunju all removing ADOR from their bio

Twitter · Dec 14, 2024, 7:54 AM

[short laurel]

Iirc many female idols supporting the impeachment of yoon. While biggest male k singer openly refused to participate n got backlash

[jolly junco]

i dont think its the music industry, this signed thing are from the actor and actress

so far the only idol/singer that provided real help like prepaid food for the protesters are IU, Yuri and jeanZ

[short laurel]

Was it loona member or fromis member i forgot but she said about being korean be4 idol n support impeachment of yoon.

[jolly junco]

but yeah a lot of idol/singer speak up about this impeachment on their IG

[short laurel]

That's good enough. Much better than the guy who said he got nothing to do with this

[short laurel]

I didn't notice the 12. The are bigger fans than us really

[waxen musk]

Maybe they inspected the element and changed it themselves to make it seem like they were there first.

[jolly junco]

Why hybe maids in reddit are mad about this lol

hybe has connections with the president's family, his wife literally came to visit hybe hq earlier this year, no way they're saying anything

[tawdry vessel]

bro got impeached

[jolly junco]

ohh so thats why HYBE artist cant say anything about this impeachment rally

[red thorn]

Iirc I saw the the post about the movement from producers, musicians/band personnels, etc

[jolly junco]

really? ok i only saw the actor and actress signed about this impeachment

[waxen musk]

ellehongkong showing support. Do we have a list of supporters? It was Vogue (Korea) too, right?

[jolly junco]

vogue korea, esquire korea, elle hongkong, Wkorea

[short laurel]

Everyone with tiny bit of integrity will go support nj. Hybe pissed off alot of people

[jolly junco]

all these 4 fashion directors from each magazine following jeanz new IG

[cosmic belfry]

Being reported the vote passed

[short laurel]

Remember vogue singapore

[jolly junco]

GOOD! then all of HYBE connection will get fired as well

[short laurel]

No there are other people in ppp with connection to bang's family. It's not just yoon's wife

[lucid yarrow]

dont have go through the hoops of answering fraudor calls

[short laurel]

I m sure lv has some misgivings on hybe cuz of the stunt hybe pulled months ago.

[hoary frost]

Vogue sg

[short laurel]

Vogue sg straight mid fing hybe building lol

[jolly junco]

LOL yeah i love this director

[red thorn]

Ah found it
https://www.mk.co.kr/en/hot-issues/11194337

[hoary frost]

All my homies hate hybe

[stiff prairie]

Joking or he acc got done alr?

[stiff prairie]

Aight nice

[short laurel]

He's talking about yoon.

[stiff prairie]

I was too

[jolly junco]

if you check out theqoo and naver comment under jeanzforfree news, people are praising their new name saying it was a genius and creative move the girls are soooo loved by knetz and the GP i'm so happy

[neon igloo]

425k subscribers right now

[stiff prairie]

Japan and Korea is in the bags for the girls

[cerulean lake]

wait did the president actually get impeached plz say he did

[jolly junco]

yes he did

[neon igloo]

He should

[short laurel]

I thought u meant account by acc.

[cerulean lake]

omg good it’s actually scary how polarizing korean men and women are (in terms of beliefs) as i was going through comments 😬

but that’s another topic

[stiff prairie]

I meant actually. Sry for the confusion

[jolly junco]

200 voted agreed for the impeachment while 85 rejected it

[short laurel]

Man literally planned to start a war. Shame on those 85

[cerulean lake]

they don’t want their own party going down

at the end of the day i believe all politicians have levels of corruption to them 🙂‍↕️ it’s just comes w the job

[stiff prairie]

Yeah like he still got 85 is kinda surprising

[jolly junco]

they need to save their own life, understandable

with all the shift going to happen in NA, i hope the new ministry of labor and sport tourism cultural can do their job right

[vague shore]

One Yongsan pig down, one more to go

[jolly junco]

i block them but his post keeps appearing on my timeline oh my lord please help me

[stable escarp]

PAYOLA!?!?!?!?!

[cerulean lake]

bro like they’re actually obsessed it’s concerning they might as well be a fan atp

[waxen musk]

Literally people keep posting screenshots of that bloody account. I thought I pruned my following list to get rid of people that do this. I said earlier that I can only laugh at what they post now but then they post something that reminds me that no, I can't laugh at everything they post.

[jolly junco]

i can laught on that one post about reporting as impersonator, but not this one

this one hurts like shit

[stable escarp]

ye "impersonator" is funny asf

[split bramble]

the girls' first insta post is solidarity with the protesters, they'll always be in the right side of history

[novel fiber]

we're so free and it feels so good

[jolly junco]

i love idols that can speak up their mind freely, like they are not controlled with some company agenda

[heady gate]

I know IU provided free food as well

[tiny peak]

i still can't believe they represented themselves at the press conference. how amazing is that

[cerulean lake]

scared those incels are gonna go after them now 😭

i mean ig they already were bc that’s the majority of hybe supporters 🤨

[hoary frost]

its just funny that they revealed this ig a day after the kmca statement they really standing on business

[stiff prairie]

https://twitter.com/user722__/status/1867631815374385589

posting my thoughts (@user722__) on X

not even 10 hours later, Billboard has NewJeans as the highest charting girl group on their Year-End World Albums Chart

Mr. Benjamin called it😂

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 6:04 PM

[neon igloo]

I think I understand why they only created the IG account now. Most likely, the girls were also waiting for the 14-day period during which the fraudor could have demanded they revise their claims. But the fraudor didn’t do that

[lament delta]

Guys pls tell me the girls atleast gonna fight for their name newjeans

Like are they waiting till they are maybe allowed to use it to change their user? Is that their strategy?

[tardy smelt]

they said they were going to in their presscon

[flint stone]

They will

[tardy smelt]

pretty much. they just wanna interact with bunnies again so gotta pick some name for the ig acc.

[cerulean lake]

if they can’t get their name back the whole jeanz and genz play on is pretty smart

[tiny peak]

any guesses which member came up with jeanzforfree?

[flint stone]

I think it's Hyein or Hanni

[modern fog]

they should've use newjhins instead tsk.

[tiny peak]

yeah I thought Hanni ... i kept picturing her saying it

[hoary frost]

-delulu

[tall dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948918589602267186/1234421470826856508/FB_IMG_1714377845119.jpg?ex=6630ac15&is=662f5a95&hm=3a0f63a41baecf295cfcb6961843d8795ccd57e80f854c76f43507a217e9d504&

[modern fog]

my hater

[red thorn]

Not enough with jhin woo seok

[tawdry vessel]

minji said this so it might be her

[jolly junco]

hyein

that kid is always full of ideas...

[hoary frost]

Bro Juan just reposted sniper’s post,

Seriouslg what is wrong w Snjoer

[jolly junco]

report it, dont engaged

[tawdry vessel]

incel

[tawdry vessel]

yep

[orchid field]

dont forget to mass rpt

[lucid yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuWjmtyRtkI&ab_channel=MBNNews Kpop protest so much better then ahem riots...

[waxen musk]

lol looks like a nice time to be honest. Fun party vibes.

[red thorn]

Binky bonk is versatile bonk

[lofty compass]

Jeanzforfree is nj new insta acc?

[mental lynx]

yes

[blazing sky]

What does this mean? Is this like fan meetups?

Like fan cafe?

[cosmic belfry]

They prepaid for food for people showing up at the South Korea National Assembly

[blazing sky]

Ohhh!! Thank you! How sweet 🥺

[orchid field]

W celebrities

[runic knoll]

W Girls NewJeans

[zinc geyser]

Can someone summarize me what just happen?

[jolly junco]

Yeah so far only IU and Yuri did

[zinc geyser]

Like how did they get a account and everything

[tardy smelt]

they just made one because they can

[orchid field]

they made it, prepaid food for protestors
big W the end

[blazing sky]

Honestly I love it bc it just garners more positive attention for them how can you hate a group of girls who paid for warm food for their fans protesting in the cold winter

Changing the idol industry ong

[orchid field]

frfrf nice people doing nice things for others

[zinc geyser]

Just happens so fast while I was on a debate in school

[blazing sky]

Oh I'm not seeing it as a marketing move either it's moreso like, it's just gonna continue to build more positive attention as a side effect

[jolly junco]

They prepaid food not only for their fans, but for everyone else who are protesting. They only need to show a lightstick (any fandom) to get the free meal

[zinc geyser]

Just to clarify are they now free agents?

[tawdry vessel]

they're joining nba will sign with golden state warriors next season bro

[zinc geyser]

So they have settle their differences between the companies?

[orchid field]

no the result will not be so soon

[tardy smelt]

waiting for a new youtube channel to pop up with real music teasers, peak is going to return

[warm shard]

I wonder if they're going to promote like other kpop artists or chill a little

[blazing sky]

Wow, that's so sweet omg

[zinc geyser]

Well I do want to see them in making new songs rn

[cerulean lake]

the food looked good i’m hungry again

[zinc geyser]

I can wait for a while for them to comeback 😌

[cosmic belfry]

They can act independently and do as they please rather than wait for the result. The members say the contract is terminated and ADOR says it's not. Realistically they aren't going to wait for the courts so they'll drop music sooner than later.

[jolly junco]

Just wait and trust the girls, they will surprise you someday just like they surprised us today with their jeanzforfree

They are playing by the rules so HYBE/fraudor cant get to them, so lets just be patient

[tardy smelt]

days like today are so much sweeter because of how much we have to endure, i cherish these days

[hoary frost]

there are 3 staffs that removed Ador from their insta bio 😈

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/hurtsaz/status/1867910301452255676

HURT SOTY 𓃹 (@hurtsaz) on X

celine, dior, gucci, chanel & louis vuitton’s PR managers all following jeanzforfree… see how everyone supports the girls over hybe

Twitter · Dec 14, 2024, 12:31 PM

the kids are soooooo free they interact with the baseball player like no idol could ever......

this is the cost of freedom

[valid sierra]

we bout to witness how chronically online Hanni is

[gentle badger]

[short laurel]

Bet she's lurking here

[wanton ingot]

[waxen musk]

I'm scared to see how the girls completely unrestricted by a K-pop idol contract will behave on social media.

Are things like this quick public back and forth with a baseball player unusual in K-pop? And obviously the protestor support isn't common.

[hoary frost]

Im expecting that Bruno dance

[jolly junco]

Afaik its unusual for kpop idol to even mention things like hanni did with the baseball player, she even dedicated a stories for that. They usually just say thank you when someone asked them on a variety show or talk show, something like that

Maybe like “oh yes i saw that video, i’m so thankful for what they did”

[waxen musk]

It’s still so hard for me to know what the norm is when NewJeans is my only frame of reference.

[jolly junco]

Hahah the way newjeans interact with their fans are really something. I watch a lot of korean variety show so i know about it

I dont follow new group ever since 2015 so i didnt know much, but even back then they didnt do it like what hanni did

These days they said kpop stan are even strict with how and who their faves interact with

[split bramble]

yes, these days parasocial relationship have gone up couple levels higher than ever before

here no different either

you see mods upping the toxicity cause 'she didnt do what i wanted her to do' then locks chat and goes msg deleting spree

for some its very hard to say 'i love your music and you got a supporter in me'

btw JeanZ could be a name with very long legs, genius name marketing wise

[jolly junco]

If you are 90s kidz you know its a geniuz move because we did writez things like this back then

[stiff prairie]

I don't think it's gonna be their final name. They'll either get back newjeans or use a different name that has nothing to do with jeans

[heady gate]

wow, I remember warez

[mild mist]

I thought that was just how americans spelled things

[short laurel]

Americans only yea

[split bramble]

still wouldnt mind some JeanZ merch

[heady gate]

Someone already created their own JeanZ merch. It glows after dark. I love it.

[jolly junco]

Hahahh no i’m asian even we did it like that in 90s

[split bramble]

nice

[thorn junco]

can i ask if jeanz got blacklisted and if sponsors will also refuse to do business with them im lwk scared they might

[tawdry vessel]

nope it was just an empty threat

it's against the law

[thorn junco]

oo alr tysmm ik dispatch is pratically never right or unbiased but they always get me sweating over ts 😭

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/dollphams/status/1867810952911237589

do you really think so? LMAO they will always get job offer from the industry, dont worry

n 🌬️♪ (@dollphams) on X

vogue korea fashion director and vogue korea digital director started following jeanzforfree

Twitter · Dec 14, 2024, 5:56 AM

there are about 10-15 fashion director from world famous magazine following the girls new IG

[tiny peak]

they are genz icons. nobody has done what they have. it's in company's best interest to hire them

[thorn junco]

WAIT OMG YAYY I WAS JS A BIT BEHIND ON THIS STUFF AND JS SCROLLED THRU A BUNCH OF COMMENTS THAT LWK GOT ON MY NERVESSS

[jolly junco]

even gucci chanel LV and many high fashion brand manager following them now

we dont have to worry about them getting "blacklisted" by some petty organization, because the public love them and it wont work against the girls

[thorn junco]

omgg tysm for the infoo im so happy for them!!

[wheat raft]

There's a whole looong thread for this

https://x.com/user722__/status/1867849750026104852

posting my thoughts (@user722__) on X

[thread 🧵]

all of the brands/industry workers that have supported/followed the girls' new instagram account! (#jeanzforfree)

Twitter · Dec 14, 2024, 8:30 AM

[short laurel]

Who cares about being blacklisted by uncreative thief companies and association. The real creatives n innovators following n supporting the girls!

[stiff prairie]

~t https://x.com/fukeveryaccount/status/1867991598321340730

[narrow seal]

241214 fukeveryaccount Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/fukeveryaccount/status/1867991598321340730
Fuck @alldoorsoneroom

[jolly junco]

Btw i just noticed something from their airport departure and arrival from they last trip to japan

That manager guy who always with them, the small one. He’s not there at all. Maybe he was the “Manager A” who got suspended from fraudor? The one they held hostage for 3 hours

Or he was there and i just missed him

The guy who watched doosan bear 1st match with minji

[gentle badger]

I thought so too but he was there for the departure

You can see him at 1:13 on the Newsen video

[jolly junco]

Hmm yeah you’re right

[short laurel]

https://x.com/dittotokki/status/1868266129300353068?t=cohaihZUmTFC3BBEuK61mw&s=19

lena | 💙🩷💛💚💜 (@dittotokki) on X

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Twitter · Dec 15, 2024, 12:05 PM

[jolly junco]

They said its MHJ bday today?

[stiff prairie]

pretty sure it isn't. the girls celebrated it this year after the hybe vs mhj started

[waxen musk]

I think the confusion comes from the V text, but I think it was December last year the girls said happy birthday to her on stage maybe (I'm not even sure) or maybe it was shown in one of the videos on their channel that was uploaded a few weeks afterwards? My memory is terrible.

[fierce cloak]

yeah even if they are being 'blacklisted' by some broadcast (which is unlikely coz they love NJ too), once NJ + MHJ release amazing works that touch people's heart, their demand raising again, whoever not working with NJ become miss out
They are golden goose

NJ has not even reached their peak yet lol

[red thorn]

December 16, according to namuwiki

[fierce cloak]

jeanzforfree obviously is just an account to engage with fans and spamming, not the official promo account, yet they reached millions of likes, followers, engagement
The girls may unintentionally started with 1st post sponsor for the protest, but it gained so much attention and support
even today QnA just 1 hour and for fun, it got more than 200k likes and 65k comments within the time comment open
meanwhile their other posts got 500k to 1 million likes
it's insane lmao
The girls also post exactly like regular gen z, makes it so relatable to their audience

[hoary frost]

If they start vlogging like Ha sisters they might js b the buggest infulcuences ever

[fierce cloak]

yeah even if they unable to promo as singers for awhile, they can pull a blackpink card - being influencers and models and promo brand
they still have a tons of money anyway lmao

[hoary frost]

They r so loved wat evennis Hybe thinking LOL

[fierce cloak]

what makes blackpink so powerful despite release little music is they are influencers of trend and brands
If anything about MHJ being a genius, one of the best thing she ever done is giving the girls brand deal from the get go

Brand demand = customer demand = they are always relevant

i just wonder how NJ and mhj is gonna establish a new company and not being sued by hybe, which they should be legally able to do but we know hybe is gonna do all dirty things to prevent competition

money wouldnt be an issue because mhj can plan a cheap ass production and it can still be masterpiece lol
she can also pull brand deals for sponsorship as always, without seeking investors
or the staff volunteer to help innitially and get paid later
the girls also have money so they can self fund a bit

[fierce cloak]

they want to burry NJ and make them irrelevent, but NJ and family are smart enough to get out as soon as they can

[rain spade]

cheap ass production

[upbeat stream]

KMCA website still down lmao

Probably hacked by some k-bunny

[lament delta]

Is the rumor of the NJ parents supporting NJ financially to establish a new company true

[upbeat stream]

We don't know but it's definitely possible

[short laurel]

Seeing the number of bodyguards. 100% parents

[rain spade]

probably gonna be their uncles, aunts, cousins, brother, sister, etcc extended family will be supporting tthem too

[upbeat stream]

Since they consider the contract to be done, they can look for investment now. However it could be risky for both nj and investors if they lose the case later

So they might hold off on that till the legal issues are resolved

[short laurel]

If rumour about that wifi company thing is true, can't trust the uncles

[hoary frost]

Sorry that was me

[upbeat stream]

Please hack sniper and jinjins 🙏

[hoary frost]

Noted Im On my way!

[rain spade]

sent the account to space

[fierce cloak]

it would take a few years
NJ seems to ready to rebrand, release new album and go on tour
plus it seems they can only sign brand deal through agency, so i guess they must establish this soon
it just we wont know who would be stockholder, like only 5 members, or it's NJ + MHJ

i think safest would be 5 members establish in their name, then hire MHJ as ceo, after a while they can give her some stock, so she wont get sued by hybe 🤔 (idk i just made this up lol)

[hoary frost]

MiDaHyeHaHae

[upbeat stream]

Well yes, they will form an agency but may not go for external investors right away.
That's what I meant

In Korea, you are not allowed to carry out entertainment activities without an agency

[tiny peak]

for example in Chuu's case, she had to create a "Chuu Company" with her mom to be able to work, until she signed with ATRP

that seems like a possible first step for Jeanz as well, in the meantime

they will be booked and busy (assuming we can get them off the gram)

[lapis vapor]

I mean, KMCA isn't wrong for doing that to NJ

[jolly junco]

For doing what exactly?

[lapis vapor]

Tampering

[gentle badger]

[lapis vapor]

yes, isn't

[red thorn]

All those associations involved, statement from kmca was the strange one, they're in charge of data and took issue in this and strongly criticize "tampering" issue with the artist that's only based suspicion, and not even about chart.
All of those associations are company-centric, no wonder they wouldn't criticize the suspicious misconduct from companies.
Big companies use extra power from industry bodies to try benefit/influence the outcome, that sounds like more clear tampering to me.

[jolly junco]

LMAO who feeds you these lies

[stable escarp]

Gotta be rage bait

[jolly junco]

I’m sorry but i need to touch some grass so i wont easily get fooled by false statement from multibillions conglomerate company mediaplay 💙🩷💛💚💜

[lapis vapor]

Kcma

[jolly junco]

[lapis vapor]

Tampering refers to an illegal or unethical act where an external party interferes with the contractual relationships between idols and their entertainment company.

Someone like MHJ counts as a third party who interfered with contractual relationship

KCMA just wants to enforce the contractual obligations that NewJeans had towards Hybe

[jolly junco]

Yeah, work harder to convince me

[lapis vapor]

Its literally legal obligations... KCMA has every right to release that statement against Newjeans to try to convince them to stay with Hybe until the contract renewal date comes.

well.. that is in 2029 but that's better than ruining your whole career

[jolly junco]

You seems to know whats written in the contract better than the girls legal team

[tawdry vessel]

Hybe is also a 3rd party and look what they did to mhj + mistreatments towards nj. Are you ignoring that?

[jolly junco]

Why dont you apply for their legal team instead, maybe you can get the job

[thick needle]

💀

[jolly junco]

Anyway HAPPY BIRTHDAY to our CEO Min 🎂🎉

[lapis vapor]

Hybe is NOT a third party. Ador is under hybe, and is a subsidiary under the umbrella label

[tawdry vessel]

lmfaoo you really dont know anything

[hoary frost]

One two three

[lapis vapor]

CEO of what

[jolly junco]

Well thats contradict the whole statement that came out from fraudor

[lapis vapor]

Ador is under Hybe though, and Hybe funds and helps manage Ador

Thanks, I know I'm the Unbiased Truth

[jolly junco]

But thats not what the new CEO of fraudor said

[lapis vapor]

Why would I be part of a losing team 🗿 I'd rather join the winners

[lapis vapor]

Ador ignoring who their daddy is, its simple.

[jolly junco]

Me too gurlll me too

[lapis vapor]

Wait, all of yall are on my schlong, can we take a breather for a second. 2v1, make a single file line atp.

If its boring, why entertain it? if you believe its trolling, why entertain it?

[jolly junco]

I dont think its boring, lets continue. You are perfect for my morning coffee companion

[tawdry vessel]

the reason nj was able to terminate the contract cause ador didn't do shit against hybe (the third party)

[lapis vapor]

NewJeans shouldn't have went about contract termination in this way

[red thorn]

Legally they're separate
But Hybe vague multi-label system merge and separate labels conveniently

[wind monolith]

nice we got a discord lawyer here

[lapis vapor]

Wait guys, now theres 5. I can't have 5 mouths on my schlong to suck it. 1 at a time 😭

[jolly junco]

But i’m not on my PC so its hard for me to share a link for you to read

But i dont think you will read even if i gave you some receipt about it

[lapis vapor]

Squid game red light green light type sh

[jolly junco]

This!! They do this MANY TIMES for the past 6 months

[tawdry vessel]

now you're yapping nonsense lmao, research first before you speak next time

[lapis vapor]

wait, are you a part of their legal team?

[jolly junco]

Are you?

[gentle badger]

[jolly junco]

I’m a chill tokki…

Yeah!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY daepyunimmm 🧢

[steel depot]

HBD daepyunim

[tawdry vessel]

https://x.com/Hopesey1/status/1868293952274682091

Seysey =͟͟͞♡ ᙏ̤̫ (@Hopesey1) on X

I wonder where the girls are training now cause I doubt they are ever putting a foot in Hybe and they have so many performances coming

Twitter · Dec 15, 2024, 1:56 PM

[jolly junco]

They can always rent a dance studio. There are a lot of dance studio for rent in korea

[tawdry vessel]

probably renting

[tardy smelt]

i saw someone saying they're still using the HYBE building because of the IG story of Minji hopping on the thing, but they don't realise that video is months old

[jolly junco]

They shot that during oktober - november maybe

[harsh dove]

@hyegums <t:1734280496:d>

[vapid turret]

Hey Bunnies I was wondering what's going on with the blacklisting rumors?

[heady gate]

You must be talking about the KMCA announcement. Time will tell the answer.

[vapid turret]

Yeah that I'm worried.

[cerulean lake]

is there a new statement or just the one from last time?

[red thorn]

Don't think so, seems people creating rumour based from kmca's blacklist threat

[jolly junco]

should i accept or not?

[hoary frost]

Accept and beef

[short laurel]

That's obvious rage bait account

[cerulean lake]

person wants to talk legal jargon w you

[hoary frost]

LOL

[jolly junco]

[cerulean lake]

wait so no new kcma statement right for now? just the one from a few days ago?

[short laurel]

Yea

[jolly junco]

they gone even their website are down, dont know why

[cerulean lake]

okok screw that corporation and all the other ones!

[short laurel]

Monday is not over yet though. Be prepared

[cerulean lake]

true smh 😑 can never enjoy a week a peace since april

[tawdry vessel]

bro thinks he's being silenced

[heady gate]

It is Monday in Korea.

[short laurel]

Organisation that handles charts saying they'll remove artists over artists disputes with their company is very illegal.
Hanni hugging mhj isn't considered tempering. We only have pics n dispatch's accusations, so there's not enough proof. It's just a pic that showed dispatch stalked hanni which is illegal.
From nj prospective contract is done, for ador it's not. Girls are officially separate from ador. So if the court decides that girls can't do it, then they'll pay the fine, if court sides will girl, then ador pay the fines.

[tiny peak]

they are 100% here to troll. please ignore

[short laurel]

Their career is more at risk by working for hybe, since hybe obviously wanted to sabotage them.

[short laurel]

Some bunnies actually don't know what happened due to screams from twitter n reddit. So I'll give them this chance.

[thorny knot]

yep even before they debuted too

[short laurel]

Mhj must be regretting ever joining hybe. All hybe ex employees who came out so far regret ever working for hybe