#NJZ Updates and Discussion

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jolly junco
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @catzkang <t:1732934993:d>

HYBE announced that they received NJ’s exclusive contract’s termination notice.

HYBE : "We plan to respond to the notice of termination of this contract, & will announce it when the decision is made about whether or not to terminate the contract."

https://n.news.naver.com/article/079/0003964521?sid=103

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runic knoll
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HYBE : "We plan to respond to the notice of termination of this contract, & will announce it when the decision is made about whether or not to terminate the contract."

also HYBE: "can you give us more time to prepare?"

i have feeling that HYBE/ADOR at one point tried to force the girls to stay

jolly junco
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its slavery if they do that

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i dont think HYBE has any legal reason to hold NJ down

runic knoll
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yeah everything that they did to the girls is ilegal now.

hoary frost
runic knoll
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yeah idk why they tried to forced them by sueing the girls and MHJ after the legit and legal document were presented by the girls and MHJ

steel depot
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i love taly sm

stiff prairie
hoary frost
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as a law expert who have never had law classes, and only watched a youtube poop of better call saul, i can safely say newjeans are DOOMED 🤯🤯🤯

jolly junco
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @catzkang <t:1732944242:d>

“NewJeans is a really special case indeed. I work in advertising, Even if there’s so many articles about them, they’re still so trendy & they sell things well. As long as we include the keyword “NewJeans,” it blows up. Money doesn’t lie.”

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hoary frost
jolly junco
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They are really stuck this time HanniLul

vague shore
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Beautiful! here's another one https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/culture/culture_general/1169943.html

Looks liks HYBE is at a stalemate

scenario 1 : HYBE files an injunction to stop NJ's activities

  • NJ cancel all remaining schedule and this could be interpreted as a breach of trust by HYBE
  • Justifying the termination of the contract

scenario 2 : HYBE files a lawsuit for damages compensation

  • Filing a lawsuit itself confirms the termination of the contract
  • NJ could also file a counter lawsuit for damages compensation
  • Depending on the party at fault, HYBE could also be responsible for the compensation fee and even if HYBE's responsibility is found to be 0, if the amount is too large, the court may exercise discretion and reduce the amount
  • It could take 3-5 years or more but in the meantime, NJ can act freely

I’m not sure what they’ll do next

pearl cipher
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Suspect they are reuniting with Jaden… But curious what you found.

jolly junco
rain spade
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one way or another i assume they gonna lose

waxen musk
tardy smelt
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7 months of karma at work

red thorn
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How Sweet

vague shore
rain spade
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they just diggiiing there own grave atp

shy schooner
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Someone will have to file the lawsuit

hoary frost
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I will

sage pilot
jolly junco
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HYBE will choose whatever option that will give them longer fight, to drain all their money so they wont be able to fight back after that

rain spade
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3rd scenariio is highly unlikely is mutually terminate

vague shore
waxen musk
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Even if Hybe wants to drag things out, NewJeans will have plenty of time to do everything they want to anyway: make music.

sage pilot
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HYBE will never do anything rational because it will hurt their most important thing—their egos. They also can’t let NJ get away like that without a lawsuit/punishment; HYBE has to make an example to their other artists. Like, “See what happens if you try the NJ way.”

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I’m also very curious about what HYBE will do regarding their funds. They will most likely lose all their lawsuits against MHJ and probably will have to pay put options and damages to both MHJ and NJ. And there’s trouble in BTS’ world. 2025 is looking very bad for them

vague shore
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Who knows, if Bang ends up going to jail over his actions during the IPO, he might change his mind Fingers crossed haerinpray

waxen musk
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I have to reconsider my expectations for when we'll get new music since before the 28th I was assuming we'd have to wait three months before they could even begin any creative process.
Things are good.
(I know we'll still have to wait a while regardless.)

sage pilot
vague shore
cosmic belfry
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Even if they choose to do two, the members can still work and it's not certain HYBE will win. HYBE doesn't look great financially outside of BTS and their other boy groups.

sage pilot
valid sierra
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @catzkang <t:1732934993:d>

HYBE announced that they received NJ’s exclusive contract’s termination notice.

HYBE : "We plan to respond to the notice of termination of this contract, & will announce it when the decision is made about whether or not to terminate the contract."

https://n.news.naver.com/article/079/0003964521?sid=103

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runic knoll
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wait does BSH still at US atm?

cosmic belfry
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Well they can either accept or file a lawsuit.

sage pilot
jolly junco
vague shore
silver warren
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Oh the impact

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runic knoll
runic knoll
valid sierra
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i wonder if other artists specially those suffering from bullying doesnt have clauses for grounds for termination in their contract, or they are afraid to go against a company

vague shore
lucid yarrow
vague shore
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AFAIK, that clause is in the standard contract, but it’s not something an artist would dare to do Like I said, not many artists can survive long-term media play from companies especially in Korea

valid sierra
vague shore
valid sierra
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most advertisers drop their artists right after an issue. but for NJ, its been 7months not a single one dropped, even getting more brands

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if that doesnt speak how huge their influence is, idk what will

sage pilot
jolly junco
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modern fog
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when and where did mhj said this

sage pilot
jolly junco
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if i remember correcly that day when she was a guest at hyundai lecturer

modern fog
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damn hope they reunite soon

jolly junco
narrow sealBOT
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twitter 240927 catzkang Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/catzkang/status/1839663657300504836
🧢 I call myself as NewJeans’ mom because my mom accepts me no matter how much I mess up or make mistakes. I wanted to make them realize, “Even if you do something wrong, I will never abandon you.”

modern fog
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thanks nj updates president

jolly junco
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i got very emotional when i read what she said that day

red thorn
vague shore
jolly junco
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she yapp about many things that day, but only that 1 stuck in my head til this day

jolly junco
red thorn
sage pilot
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I'm excited for more of her yapping on Dec 6. Maybe we will even get new leaked music again binkybongcheer

vague shore
short laurel
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N why is hybe responding? Isn't hybe a 3rd party from ador's perspective?

waxen musk
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It’s pretty confusing so much so they can’t remember if they’re Ador or Hybe responding.

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Basically what Minji said: they’re one and the same.

sonic olive
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Yow so what will happend now ? Did something bad happened?

short laurel
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Yea n that help nj case is ador sues that lol

valid sierra
short laurel
sonic olive
vague shore
jolly junco
sonic olive
short laurel
valid sierra
vague shore
# sonic olive What ??

If HYBE files a lawsuit, it is a sign of a breach of trust which is the reason for termination

sonic olive
sonic olive
vague shore
jolly junco
short laurel
waxen musk
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So silly.

sonic olive
jolly junco
waxen musk
jolly junco
sonic olive
red thorn
jolly junco
short laurel
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From nj perspective contract is null, they just have to complete the schedules they agreed on be4 nov 29th.
From ador perspective contract is still valid.
It's disagreement between 2 parties n up to them to sue to decide which side is right.

vague shore
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Ironically, HYBE also can't stop the termination with the lawsuit haha

sonic olive
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I see

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But if they do the lawsuit they also possibly will lose

jolly junco
# sonic olive I see

do you remember back when HYBE unilaterally terminate MHJ Shareholder agreement? MHJ have to file for injuction to stop it, and still lose in the end

The same thing happened now, its just that NJ is the one doing it, not HYBE

sonic olive
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If we watch from april until now there are TOO many proofs that hybe/ador breach the contract

vague shore
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The only thing they can do is ask for damage compensation, but NJ will likely do the same

copper jetty
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I find it suspicious that Ador and Hybe is silent right now. I'm guessing they're reading each and everyone's contracts (NJ) and looking for a loophole

short laurel
sonic olive
jolly junco
jolly junco
short laurel
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If hybe ador not sue then nj are free

sonic olive
short laurel
copper jetty
sonic olive
jolly junco
valid sierra
copper jetty
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Also Hybe's income is only 1.4 B. I don't know if they can afford it haerinkek

sonic olive
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Pls hybe / ador just leave them alone bro 😔 im tired of this lawsuit thing

jolly junco
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dont ever doubt NJ and their legal team, they know what they are doing

sonic olive
vague shore
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I believe there's legal stamp duty fee which is 3.5% of penalty fee they're asking

short laurel
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Lets not come to any conclusion. I want nj to win but korea legal system is corrupt. N agencies not just hybe not want artists to do what nj did.

copper jetty
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Also i very much doubt that hybe would let newjeans scot free.. they're dumb as hell and they would want to make an example out of the girls... I would say if they set them free they'll probably blacklist them.

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But with the age of the internet I doubt that would mean anything. Lmao

ashen charm
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So much misinformation on newjeans contract on tiktok ..

short laurel
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Blacklisting isn't easy in 2024. With internet n nj is big in korea n hybe pissed out many other companies from their leaked report

jolly junco
short laurel
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Some mushows will block nj others will support nj cuz they pissed at hybe

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We saw it in kgma lol

valid sierra
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Similarly, contracts can also be terminated, which refers to a
declaration of intention that extinguishes the effect of a valid, continuous
contract for the future (ex nunc) on the grounds of a breach of contract.
Termination, as opposed to rescission, matters in the case of a continuous
contract.

from civil code of Korea, but i doubt that antis would believe this since they know more about Korean law

copper jetty
tiny peak
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HYBE artists don't go to MuCore right? and HYBE will continue to make more enemies in the future, they can't help it

waxen musk
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Who is on Hybe’s side at the moment?

sage pilot
waxen musk
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I mean in the context of the discussion above.

sage pilot
ashen charm
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Newjeans contract isn't a normal contract where they sign all there rights away
And people are mad about it haerinkek

vague shore
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If HYBE blacklists NJ Trust me it's not going to end well for them in Korea haerinkek

tiny peak
sage pilot
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HYBE can only try to blackist NJ using BTS, like SM did. Like "If you let NJ perform, BTS will not perform". But they might even not have BTS in 2025, so haerinkek

ashen charm
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And the people who support njs will only make them even popular blacklisting isn't realistic HanniLul

cosmic belfry
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I'm pretty sure BTS won't stand for it and will be vocal.

wind monolith
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Hybe acting like an obsessive bf. Acting like they got all the control

short laurel
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Bts will face backlash for letting hybe use their name to block junior artist

tiny peak
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every attempt to blacklist NJ will ruin HYBE reputation more. NJ is loved by everyone including people who don't like kpop

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well I shouldn't say everyone, old men are an exception

sage pilot
vague shore
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As I said, I don't know about overseas, but in Korea, it's not possible to blacklist NJ

warm hedge
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why’s that? I thought HYBE was quite powerful

waxen musk
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From what everyone above is saying, the only potential blacklisting comes from shows where Hybe artists would attend alongside NewJeans? Is it just shows where blacklisting occurs?

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I’m so unfamiliar with blacklisting.

tiny peak
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HYBE has money, they lack brains and credibility

short laurel
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Partial blacklisting is possible but all korea blacklisting isn't

copper jetty
sage pilot
jolly junco
tiny peak
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it's so hard for artists to go against a company, which makes NJ so remarkable. it angers me when people say "oh NJ has millions of dollars" ... that means they have a lot to lose. these jobless freaks never had over a hundred of dollars in their bank account

vague shore
jolly junco
tiny peak
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so I won't fault BTS for staying silent, it's their money at stake. but I would definitely respect them if they spoke out

limber willow
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whats the blacklisting stuff abt

warm hedge
stable escarp
sage pilot
tiny peak
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I don't know why HYBE is so confident BTS will solve all their problems, things can change quickly in a few years. there's no guarantee in this industry

wind monolith
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I genuinely dont get y hybe is hating on the bts members too 😭 hybe brain gotta be a peanut

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Bpd aint coming back to korea anytime soon isnt he getting investigated?

tawdry vessel
stable escarp
short laurel
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that's why hybe trying to switch to IT company(whis is failing) they know they are failing in kpop after bts leaves

copper jetty
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Maybe i should report him to ice... it's a little troubling how long he's been here in the us

short laurel
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he got money so us allowing him.

tiny peak
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I hope he's getting fleeced even more in the US, his desired for Western validation is sad

short laurel
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with trump i hope bsh is kicked out lol

sage pilot
# tawdry vessel this one too

oh yeah haerinkek I'm speculating that the recent changes in the CEO's position in BigHit were solely done to please and or manipulate certain members. The new CEO worked with them from the beginning. But I'm sure BTS are not dumb and can see that as long as BSH has the power, nothing is going to change

copper jetty
wind monolith
stable escarp
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Karma always prevails

tiny peak
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NJ and real-ADOR team are so smart and clever, I'm actually expecting something new fairly soon i.e. within a few months

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I'll be happy with even just one song

stable escarp
ashen charm
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This is such a powerful move for Newjeans

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tiny peak
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yeah public support for NJ is completely insane now. the press conference gained even more support. they smashed the stereotypes of mindless manufactured idols

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meanwhile BangPD is still hiding in another country and using his minions to appear in front of national assembly

tawdry vessel
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all hybe to do was to get mhj back to her ceo position, as simple as that really, but nah they f around and found out

jolly junco
tiny peak
jolly junco
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @juantokki <t:1732955688:d>

241130 Atty. Lee Hyun-gon Facebook post

“People are strange.

When a company dismisses an employee, do they wait for a court ruling before doing so?

Nobody questions that process, yet when the roles are reversed, they ask if the employee can just leave.

It seems we’ve become too accustomed to and accepting of the hierarchical “superior and subordinate” dynamic.

But the law doesn’t operate that way. The law evaluates matters afterward.

The reason most subordinates don’t act is simply because they’re too afraid of the potential consequences.”

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jolly junco
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W message haerinW

waxen musk
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Wow he put it so simply.

jolly junco
jolly junco
sage pilot
ashen charm
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Why do people keep saying "but there still under hybe" HanniMad3

sage pilot
hoary frost
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bsh got beef with everyone bro 😭

rain spade
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he has like 2 gg, no HanniLul

short laurel
short laurel
arctic swan
narrow sealBOT
wheat raft
rain spade
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As a law student in keyboard warrioring, Nj will win

modern fog
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agree

arctic swan
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They are all a law student who never graduate

lucid yarrow
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lets get hybe to hire them

vague shore
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And yet, none have seen the contract with their own eyes

arctic swan
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I've seen a lot of "law experts" in reddit

zinc geyser
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Any updates for new jeans?

short laurel
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there are alot of social media law experts who work in companies which does hybe like internal reporting on other human beings and think it's normal.

rain spade
arctic swan
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They didn't win the best group female award in mma. Sigh 😩

mild mist
vague shore
short laurel
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other companies not promote. Hybe over promote.

wheat raft
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @juantokki <t:1732955688:d>

241130 Atty. Lee Hyun-gon Facebook post

“People are strange.

When a company dismisses an employee, do they wait for a court ruling before doing so?

Nobody questions that process, yet when the roles are reversed, they ask if the employee can just leave.

It seems we’ve become too accustomed to and accepting of the hierarchical “superior and subordinate” dynamic.

But the law doesn’t operate that way. The law evaluates matters afterward.

The reason most subordinates don’t act is simply because they’re too afraid of the potential consequences.”

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stiff prairie
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just had a fight w a "literally a law student". they keep bringing it up as if it makes them right automatically and there aren't law practitioners w yrs of experience who still lose cases

rain spade
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Brought what up?

stiff prairie
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that they are literally a law student

arctic swan
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TikTok commenters tend to overuse the word "literally," as if it adds more weight or impact to their comment.

jolly junco
red thorn
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I too majored law in Kpop

rain spade
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Nono, say PhD

short laurel
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i've been saying the same thing i said here about us not knowing the contract and that it's on ador to sue nj. and people called me "so u have law degree" to put my words down.

mild mist
arctic swan
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Yes overuse and misuse

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People say literally to make their point sound like a fact, even when it’s just their opinion.

rain spade
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it will be fun to troll and ragebait those ppl instead of taking them seriously

jolly junco
arctic swan
harsh doveBOT
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:warning: TikTok Error: There was a problem downloading this video, try again later

short laurel
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the source 104 says correctly though

stiff prairie
short laurel
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it's funny to me the reference they are using is correct and they still made the mistake.

neon igloo
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Has anyone already found a translation of this article link in English?

하이브 "뉴진스 전속계약 해지 통지 수령, 적절히 대응" 공시

하이브가 그룹 뉴진스(NewJeans)의 전속계약 해지 통지를 수령했다고 공시했다. 하이브는 29일 전자공시시스템에 '풍문 또는 보도에 대한 해명'을 올렸다. 하이브는 "당사의 종속회사인 ㈜어도어는 소속 아티스트인

short laurel
neon igloo
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it’s funny how this is yet another empty statement instead of actual actionhaerinkek

short laurel
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the fact hybe responded with this means hybe admit ador problem is there problem. so ador statement about "they can't do anything about hybe" is thrown out the window.

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legally the company who has the power and responsibility to respond should be ador and not hybe. hybe should be considered 3rd party. but hybe responding like this shows that hybe calls itself 1st party and not give the "freedom" to subsidiary as they always like to scream about all the time.

neon igloo
short laurel
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i just hope hybe keep messing up so much that if they sue girls, it becomes open and shut case in girls favor.

neon igloo
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I'm only worried that HYBE might start a dirty media game now, but I'm still a chill tokki who trusts NewJeans' decisions tokkichill

short laurel
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at this point no one believes in hybe supporting news. they already in big trouble over BSH's stock manipulation from 4 years ago reveal. (this is the main reason of their stocks drop btw)

split bramble
split bramble
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twitter 241130 catzkang Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/catzkang/status/1862729277399236905
“NewJeans is a really special case indeed. I work in advertising, Even if there’s so many articles about them, they’re still so trendy & they sell things well. As long as we include the keyword “NewJeans,” it blows up. Money doesn’t lie.”

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split bramble
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hybe payola basically stuck in incel echo chambers, dont make any splash with the general public

short laurel
boreal laurel
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Lawyers in Korean Law too 😂

thorn junco
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i heard the njs might be joining oddatelier which i think is bp jennie's company ik nothing has been confirmed yet but i feel like they would be treated well their jennie's so nice to themm

grim hatch
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source?

steep sun
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doubt it

thorn junco
# grim hatch source?

tt, yt, and twitter 😭😭 thats why i was lwk suspicous but there was so manyyy

thorn junco
ashen charm
thorn junco
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the misinfo and gaslighting is getting me 😔

waxen musk
brazen ice
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that does sound like a procces that could take a year tho

ashen charm
waxen musk
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I think that's up for interpretation.

red thorn
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Nothing certain now
When there's rumour it's safe to say that's just people's wish and spreading it as rumour

ashen charm
waxen musk
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There are a lot of unknowns still. Even for the girls themselves.

thorn junco
neon igloo
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tokkichill chill and don't speculate about future. The girls will inform us about any changes hannithis

stoic heron
gentle badger
ashen charm
arctic swan
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Please keep streaming newjeans songs on any music platform until they make a new one,🙏
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https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1862854928982483011?t=7EQ8FUtK7F9Qo8sg96PtEg&s=19

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

Streaming or not is a personal choice, but if NJ announces their departure from HYBE and the streams decrease, K-pop fans/ hybe’s media plays are definitely going to make a fuss about it, claiming that NJ is flopping without HYBE/it was all HYBE that got them the streams/ without

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frozen bronze
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i agree with this, the difference in money for hybe will not make or break anything

hoary frost
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hate how ppl praised hybe for their shady tactics and taking advantage of loopholes as being smart but newjeans are being called brainless and manipulaed by following their contract

rain spade
runic knoll
arctic swan
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twitter 241130 NewJeansCharts Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NewJeansCharts/status/1862928760355611020
Hello everyone, this is NewJeans Charts. Recently, we have received many opinions and inquiries about whether we should boycott NewJeans' streaming. After careful consideration among our staff, we would like to share our position on this matter.

To get straight to the point, we

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cosmic belfry
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If you want to do the math yourselves. I estimate a stream to roughly 0.003 cents on Spotify. (Might be slightly more)

jolly junco
jolly junco
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wdyt? is it possible?

runic knoll
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nah. it will caused ADOR/Hybe to had their stocks dropped even more

red thorn
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It's possibility

waxen musk
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Waiting for NewJeans to do something wrong like what?

red thorn
cosmic belfry
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Basically any activity outside of ADOR. Which was prob going to happen as they couldn't sue if they never violated the exclusive contract ADOR believes is still active.

If they sued before, they would be confirming the contract is terminated.

hoary frost
jolly junco
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They can’t find the girls’ mistakes in the past, that’s why they’re trying to find the girls’ mistakes in the future.

Boom.

waxen musk
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looooool

rain spade
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they playing cat and mouse game here 😭

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they're nott confident 1000000%

unborn jewel
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i think as soon as the schedule has been completed thats when ador will probably sue

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when they start their first independent schedule

hoary frost
arctic swan
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stiff prairie
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From r/newjeans

28-29/11 on naver:

80 articles in total about BSH's stock fraud with 39 articles have comment section opened.

Meanwhile, 483 articles about Newjeans's contract termination with 70% have comment section opened.

its a win for me regardless 😂

steel depot
cerulean lake
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sorry y’all i have absolutely no law background so that’s why i need to go asking around unlike those proclaimed law students on twt

steel depot
unborn jewel
rain spade
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we have no idea about law too, just lots of assumptions

steel depot
steel depot
unborn jewel
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the reason i said that is because ador is claiming the contract is still valid (unless theres more recent news i havent heard) so when they try to do independent activities and not the ones ador is claiming they have set for them then they will likely sue

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just a theory

rain spade
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Hope ador can make their decision quicker, they're so slow but quick to relaease a statement after nj pc smh smh

tawdry vessel
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they'll likely lose

vague shore
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No one has seen the full contract, and no one knows what kind of proof NJ might be holding The only fact we know is that they're free now and I'm pretty sure NJ has prepared for that battle and is confident in their position

unborn jewel
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i kinda wish they reveal the proof they withheld due to contract limitations

rain spade
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twt lawyers know their full contract HanniLul

vague shore
jolly junco
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rain spade
jolly junco
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Where are those twitter law students?

hoary frost
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LOL

jolly junco
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thats why ADOR and HYBE are so quiet since 29th, because they know haerinkek

vague shore
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And there are still 17980 pages of leaked documents yet to be made public If any reverse viral marketing tactics against NJ are in there, HYBE is done for

stiff prairie
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cause i hope hybe/ador sue newjeans and they can without guilt release everything they have on hybe

rain spade
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ador do sumthing.. i'm bored

stiff prairie
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help they're gonna trend "as a law student" on twt soon 😭

harsh doveBOT
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x_ @Arthurmeowww <t:1732938651:d>

“As a law student”

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hoary frost
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as a student who has watched a minute of Better Call Saul YTP, I can safely say that NewJeans future is gonna be DIABOLICAL 🤯🤯

tawdry vessel
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wait til discord lawyers show up

rain spade
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they think law work the same in every single country

cerulean lake
cloud glen
vague shore
cerulean lake
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hmm i’m hoping that can be used as like some type of comeback towards hybe in case that stupid company does media play again 🥱

vague shore
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Actually, HYBE's media play towards NJ has been somewhat reduced after the leaked document So most people think now they’re being cautious about backlash Karma's a realhaerinkek

hoary frost
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they really trying to find newjeans mistakes to sue them like focus on ur stock and allegations first bang braur 🤷‍♂️

wind monolith
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wasnt hybe suppose to release a statement?

jolly junco
wind monolith
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oh ya its the weekend 😦 i have exams next week

cerulean lake
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it’s hard having all this drama during the same time as finals 🤧

hoary frost
jolly junco
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what is this december birthday call from ador supposed to be

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whose birthday

cosmic belfry
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It's just the monthly call for Bunnies Club

tawdry vessel
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they do thise every month

jolly junco
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how is it usually done? the members go live on weverse?

tawdry vessel
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that's gonna be thr last one i think

waxen musk
jolly junco
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ah pre recorded

boreal laurel
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"you passed the bar?"

stiff prairie
jolly junco
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💀 NJ are leading the war

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stiff prairie
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what is this? what are we leading now 😭

tawdry vessel
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hybe mediaplay articles? hyeinlife

jolly junco
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SG25 sales number outside of weverse

tawdry vessel
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oh

jolly junco
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its not included with weverse sales

cobalt zodiac
stiff prairie
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ohh oki oki but the gap tho.

jolly junco
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why are seventeen fandom girlcotting their SG25?

cobalt zodiac
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One message removed from a suspended account.

stiff prairie
hushed whale
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ye they have beef with hybe too

jolly junco
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but that actions will also hurts the artist, not just hybe

stiff prairie
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idk they still have ~1.5 yrs left saw somewhere

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this type of bcotts might encourage hybe to give them more rests etc ig to cater to the fans and stuff

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b word is illegal here didn't know

tawdry vessel
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bycot

cosmic belfry
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girlcott

sage pilot
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twitter 241201 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1863128770192052714
A legal expert specializing in entertainment law commented that NewJeans’ contract termination appears to be the most logical approach.

The lawyer is well-versed in the standard contract terms and, given their specialization in the entertainment field, likely has been following

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jolly junco
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runic knoll
cosmic belfry
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Hmm MHJ prob had significant work done on it already so they have something to work with.

jolly junco
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all HYBE and new ADOR need to do is claim the credits, no sweat

lucid yarrow
red thorn
short laurel
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If the new bg succeeds somewhat, we praise mhj. if they fail, we blame hybe!

short laurel
# red thorn 🫢

Pretty sure what bsh did is stocks manipulation. It's not between legal n illegal, it is illegal.

sage pilot
tardy smelt
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yeah... no good staying in ador but they can't just leave

wind monolith
short laurel
cosmic belfry
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They could not sign but this is could be their dream so who can fault them.

unborn jewel
lucid yarrow
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I thought Riize sorted had that NJ feel but boy ver i wonder how Ador now Hybe bg will turn out, will it be more MHJ or Bang going in with all the mix

short laurel
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If odor used hybe boy for bg name, there should be backlash.

jolly junco
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Yeah i’m also curious did the boys shared a 7 years blueprint with MHJ like NJ or not

sage pilot
jolly junco
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Maybe MHJ will spill something about this boy trainees on december 6th

tawdry vessel
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hopefully not

short laurel
waxen musk
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The boy group wasn't MHJ's idea anyway. It was something Hybe wanted her to have.

jolly junco
short laurel
waxen musk
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Yep, she would have cared about it even if she was forced to work on it when it wasn't her intention to in the first place. I don't know how far into the process things got anyway. She really only barely mentioned it during one of her press conferences or talks.

sage pilot
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i don't think MHJ did a significant job on this bg. she's a workaholic and always plans ahead, yes, but she wanted to focus on NJ and i'm sure she knew things would go sour with hybe. she never once mentioned them even

short laurel
waxen musk
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I still am amazed at how MHJ managed to plan so much around Get Up era. All the travel overseas for their 2nd EP, the fanmeeting just before that, V's Layover album just after that.

jolly junco
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I only remember 1 thing about this boygroup supposed to debut under MHJ, she said the number 1 criteria she set for this BG are the height. They must be at least 180cm

short laurel
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Well boys are still unnamed trainees so i don't c why mhj would mention them. We just don't know anything actually.

waxen musk
unborn jewel
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maybe she'll talk about it in her documentary

short laurel
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When nj debuted they already had some work done for eta going by the interviews

vague shore
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I wish she writes a book after NJ's first full album

sage pilot
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i wanted to research what MHJ said about the upcoming bg on twitter and hybe fans were crying back in april that she wanted to plagiarize txt with her bg. i'm crying they're so dumb

unborn jewel
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iirc they practiced attention 2 years before debut, omg during debut, and had everything down for asap by ditto's release

jolly junco
waxen musk
short laurel
jolly junco
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That woman love to yap like there is no tomorrow tokkiCANT

waxen musk
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Should bring her in here tokkiCANT

jolly junco
short laurel
wind monolith
sage pilot
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twitter 240422 Hyutodi Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Hyutodi/status/1782441100726145492
They have no defined positions and are number 1.

— Explicit mention of the resemblance of one of the new bg’s trainee to Yeonjun (also trying to copy skills) They are trying to find similar trainees to txt members‼️

— Ador has previously been accused of copying TXT.

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sage pilot
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there's so much brain rot to enjoy

waxen musk
short laurel
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Well yea

waxen musk
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Like the Murakami stuff comes to mind. They met at Summer Sonic and planned illustrations, etc. That was probably in September 2023 right? That's not 1-2 years. Just saying it's different for different things. Sorry don't need to argue about it lol. She has 7 year plan after all.

short laurel
jolly junco
short laurel
sage pilot
short laurel
vague shore
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Another report about Bang dropped https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/015/0005063900?sid=101
I don't want to go into details but that's a pretty dodge one Just hope this keeps that company busy so they can't bother NJ

이스톤PE, 방시혁 측근 '기획펀드'였다

하이브에 투자해 수천억원의 이익을 거두고 이를 방시혁 하이브 의장과 나눈 사모펀드(PEF) 운용사는 방 의장 측근이 주축이 돼 설립한 것으로 파악됐다. 이 운용사는 2019년 설립 후 하이브에만 투자했고 차익을 실현

sage pilot
short laurel
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Hybe stocks will take real hit once he arrest though

boreal laurel
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Bang out here making Yang Hyun Suk look like an angel

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😂

vague shore
waxen musk
tawdry vessel
boreal laurel
vague shore
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'A little demon in my story line Don't knock on my door, I'll see you out'

jolly junco
waxen musk
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Hope so. I was thinking the same. But as always, I just don't know.

jolly junco
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yeah we wont know 100% but if BANA as the main producers for the music dont give permissions for ADOR to release the unreleased music i guess BANA can sue them for that

waxen musk
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We all know Dani and Hanni are working on something after that demo was "leaked" during a MHJ talk.

sage pilot
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also i think how funny it is that in the all 8 months of conflict the only "bad stuff" we got about MHJ is that she consults with the shaman. meanwhile with HYBE, bsh and co... i feel like we're still only seeing the tip of the iceberg

waxen musk
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I remember Dani talking about not knowing if and when she would release Butterflies (With U). I know so many people assumed that would be part of NJ1 but it was never clear, I don't think Dani even knew.
Anyway it's things like this that make me wonder about the legalities and logistics of working on music with an outside party when working for a company like Ador. Where are the lines drawn and who owns what.

boreal laurel
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Dani and Hanni becoming powerful producers and maybe eventually powerful ceos that dominate the 7th gen would be an absolutely insane plot line that id love to see

jolly junco
waxen musk
boreal laurel
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LOONA pulled it off and with way worse odds

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NewJeans will absolutely slayyy

jolly junco
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cant say that for sure, since LOONA and newjeans case are completely different

waxen musk
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Putting out music isn't hard. You can make a song and just put it out there. But what NewJeans does with music vidoes, brand deals and collabs, promotion, album designs, merch, and more I'm forgetting, isn't just putting out music.
I wonder if NJ will compromise and just put out music or if they'll continue to make each release a huge project more than just the music itself.

copper jetty
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Hi. Is there any new news?? It's making me anxious that both hybe and ador is super quiet.

waxen musk
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Usually not much news on the weekends.

copper jetty
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The last time was when hybe did a statement right?? Which is super confusing cause I was expecting Ador to do that

wind monolith
jolly junco
copper jetty
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Oh... I swear to god there was a hybe statement where they actually said that they would see if they will terminate or not?? Weird but I can't find it already.

jolly junco
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yeah but so far HYBE has never tell to public their position in this matter, they only said they will give statement soon about it

copper jetty
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I'm scared of Monday again. Cause we know for sure that's their usual schedule. tokkisob

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Also why would they make a statement when it should be ador (NJ company) doing that??

tawdry vessel
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run by same people

wind monolith
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But it was bs

copper jetty
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Yeah.. I hate feeling this way like we're just waiting for the ball to drop. Or rather waiting for Ador/ hybe to sue newjeans.

wind monolith
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We all just not use to nothing happening especially after something big but sometimes u gotta be a tokkichill

jolly junco
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @juantokki <t:1733048618:d>

”[4,000 Billion Won Man] Former Big Hit PR Head Leaves a Post About Bang Si-hyuk’s Secret 400 Billion Won”

An article about the HYBE chairman’s 400 billion won acquired before the company went public has become a headline in a certain economic publication. I happen to know one of the journalists involved, who primarily covers controversies and issues related to conglomerates, finance, and economics. It feels like they’ve been steadily investigating this for quite a while. They might keep publishing articles until the financial authorities take action.

I don’t know the specifics of financial law or what the exact issue is, but it seems like the line between legality and illegality was cleverly navigated. If I recall correctly, he often claimed that there were things more important than money, acting all sophisticated. But when it comes to money—especially an astronomical sum like this—anyone can change. It’s like how even ham with preservatives will eventually spoil in the fridge.

Wouldn’t it be better if even a small part of that 400 billion was used to shed light on the darker corners of society in the spirit of noblesse oblige? Instead of just treating “Juicy Sister” to fancy meals at high-end restaurants in LA.

source: https://theqoo.net/square/3508785216

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jolly junco
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he got snitched tokkiCANT

short laurel
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the fact hybe responded like that should go against hybe if they ever sue.

hoary frost
# jolly junco he got snitched <:tokkiCANT:1038772943485947965>

lol i wouldn’t be suprised if its one of his lapdogs it wouldn’t take long until theyll start throwing each other under the bus especially if they start losing those lawsuits like theyll be scrambling and getting grilled at the NA and the main perpetrator is enjoying life overseas if that was me ill be pissed

short laurel
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Though they blaming hybe, they still blamed nj, like can't these guys see how much drama hybe's been doing?

wheat raft
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actually the average person or investor doesn't know about all the drama at all

even kpop fans (i know many IRL that are certain different boy group fans) may not be involved or keeping up with kpop news

jolly junco
wheat raft
short laurel
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If they are investing in a market, they should be keeping tabs on that market. I m not talking about art but the fact that nj planning to leave was obvious without even going into details with so much drama going on.

jolly junco
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“I can’t believe HYBE is a publicly-traded company, considering investors hear about news that can affect its stock price from media, not through official disclosure made by the company,” a user said in a chatroom of HYBE investors.

They pointed out that the feud between HYBE and Min has been ongoing for months, while “investors are left blind concerning relevant information.”

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“Nevertheless, it is HYBE that should ultimately take the blame for the tumble in stock price,” the user said, noting that NewJeans members are in their teens or early 20s.

They added, “They are too young to judge how their words can affect the stock price, and I must say HYBE is simply unprofessional in taking care of its artists."

short laurel
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Another user partly criticized NewJeans "for being immature and reckless for making the abrupt, one-sided announcement," saying they make up a significant portion of HYBE's sales

sage pilot
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HYBE investors should jump the ship already. BTS' comeback is not gonna save that company

jolly junco
short laurel
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What i m saying is these guys not even researching at the company they invested in makes it these guys fault.

sage pilot
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HYBE/bsh was saying all the right things to the public and investors especially, like his big plans on expansion

short laurel
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I can't believe that cuz all the drama hybe has been involved in are cuz of hybe's fault, gfriends, nuist, garam, the 1st gg of bighit, drama with sm, stupid deals with lsm n hybe usa. All i c is hybe being shit after shit.

jolly junco
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lol 😭

sage pilot
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oh and also, someone pls help tokkipray do we have an english translation in full of MHJ's hyundai lecture back at sep 27?

short laurel
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All i know is hybe as an entertainment company always just made more enemies out of public again n again. They purely surviving on bts.

jolly junco
sage pilot
jolly junco
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oh sorry it was the young dae school not hyundai lecturers, my bad

sage pilot
wheat raft
# short laurel What i m saying is these guys not even researching at the company they invested ...

they shouldnt be blaming newjeans yes

But idk if these are private investors like VCs or just public normal everyday investors

if its the latter its very normal to randomly point and blame anyway

I know friends in VCs that have so many companies in their portfolio they barely keep tabs. As for normal everyday investors most people (even me) don't do much research either

so their comments are probably fleeting / don't hold much importance anyway

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(the only ones giving it importance are antis)

short laurel
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Ohk

split bramble
wheat raft
hoary frost
cerulean lake
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i’m sorry but if the samsung ceo could go to prison then bang pd should go as well if what he did was illegal

tawdry vessel
stiff prairie
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yoo what did i miss

stiff prairie
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ok saw vous' text

sleek crest
boreal laurel
flint stone
sweet pebble
gentle badger
devout sequoia
wheat raft
red thorn
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Summary for 400 Billion man in the making and about what's going on

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mild mist
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oh wait someone already went for that one

split bramble
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twitter 241201 NewJeansSTRM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1863211744438665296
안녕하세요, 팀 버니즈입니다.

지난 5월경 운영을 시작한 제보 계정을 통해 많은 분들께서 4월부터 시작된 하이브 사태와 관련된 폭로와 고발 내용을 전달해 주셨습니다. 11월 29일 0시를 기점으로 뉴진스가 어도어와의 계약 해지를 발표하였고, 이에 따라 예상되는 방해를 미연에 방지하고자 다시

split bramble
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Many people have been reporting and accusing information related to the Hive incident that started in April through the tip-off account that started operating around May. As of 00:00 on November 29, Newjins announced the termination of their contract with Adore, and in order to prevent any expected interference, we are once again providing the tip-off account.

In particular, advertisers, broadcasters, and performance staff, if you have received any intrusive solicitations or inappropriate suggestions from HYBE regarding New Jeans after the 29th, please report the details to the Team Bernies email below.

Since the incident in April, Hive has continued to put pressure on reporters and media outlets, and these reports have been used as legal response materials with strict anonymity. We would like to inform you once again that the reports you have sent will be reviewed by a law firm and anonymity will be guaranteed, and any parts that could be identified will be excluded.

Please give us lots of tips. Thank you.

Support@teambunnies.com (teambunnies@daum.net)
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team bunnies sitting on many documented proofs of hybe mediaplay lol

jolly junco
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Especially if the shares were sold thru IPO/ICO, they usually have a timeline of how many % they can sell, like there are timelines on how much they can unlock their shares to sell

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For the IPO/ICO buyers they need years before they can unlock 100% of their shares

short laurel
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and it's true that hybe is only relient on BTS.

jolly junco
sage pilot
rain spade
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there's still a possibility of ador winning?

tired ingot
hoary frost
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🤣🤣🤣

hoary frost
orchid field
sage pilot
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I’ll be thanking MHJ for not using any of Hybe’s resources until the day I die tokkipray

glacial lark
bronze jetty
short laurel
short laurel
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i not wanna be negative but cuz it's in korean, we don't know what source they used.
we have no info about what contract NJ, FRNK, 250 and everyone else had with ODOR.

sage pilot
short laurel
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but BANA has contract with ODOR. we don't know what that contract is. and has any idol done this be4?

sage pilot
orchid field
frozen bronze
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i watched all of better call saul and i can say newheans are absolutely done for

cobalt zodiac
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One message removed from a suspended account.

sage pilot
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errant osprey
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I’d rather have them make new music than re record

short laurel
mild mist
frozen bronze
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as someone who watches things i watched this video

acoustic valve
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as someone who knows the names of at least three fortune 500 CEOs I agree

stable escarp
harsh doveBOT
stable escarp
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What do you guys think of this?

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Ngl her not including anything about hybe/ador immediately discredits her for me especially when she said lawyers look at the facts. And i dont think she has shown any credentials other than saying ive been a lawyer for 10 years but there is so many people agreeing w her take and viewing it. I.e the bald head guy

red thorn
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Another thoughts from kr legal expert

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boreal laurel
rain spade
short laurel
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I've seen comments. Most of them don't know what's going on or only read misinformation

split bramble
short laurel
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At the end of the day. Only those who have read the contract n judge can decide what is right n what is wrong. Everyone else even lawyers words are just words with no power.

stable escarp
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Ok thankyou. Was going crazy over the comments js taking it instantly at face value

short laurel
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Nj unilaterally terminating the contract n forcing duty to sue to ador is unprecedented. There's no past case like this in kpop. Just cuz it nvr happened doesn't makes it right or wrong. It's just means no one knows what will happen if ador decides to sue girls.

young wyvern
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right. everything you seem online is speculation, but the lawyers opinions are based on previous case law. but like @short laurel theres no precedented for a case like this

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however, considering that hybe is a corporation, i would expect them to challenge this

short laurel
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My opinion is made after reading comments of various (real) lawyers who are on either side.

rain spade
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tell us about the lawyer who is on ador side haerinthink

young wyvern
short laurel
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Also the tiktoker comments seem to think nj not have lawyers, the host on the day of the press conference said the details will be shared by girls legal representatives at later dates.
This implies that girls indeed have a legal team.
If a lawyer missed this part n still gives their legal advice, their words lose any meaning to me even if their words are right.

rain spade
short laurel
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There's 1 korean but i didn't save his link. Most people agree that it's up to ador to sue nj. That's all everyone should care about.

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Lawyers can n have given bad advice too, so their words don't mean they are right.

boreal laurel
mild mist
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I've played at least one Ace Attorney game and I can confidently say that hybe's only way out of this is to sell bananas

boreal laurel
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"as a law student" = "in my opinion"

sage pilot
arctic swan
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Why am I seeing comments on NewJeans' main TikTok page saying things like, "Stop following NewJeans, the money will go to HYBE"? It seems like NewJeans has lost about 100k followers, dropping from 12.6 million to 12.5 million.

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thorn junco
arctic swan
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Lol 20 dollars to 50 dollars per 1 million views. Are they stupid?

frozen bronze
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it looks more like people stopping supporting newjeans themselves

arctic swan
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They are antis pretending to be tokkis

short laurel
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Ignore those. There's trolls mixed in them.

thorn junco
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i was tweaking out cuz its getting geniune support 😭😭

arctic swan
thorn junco
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yeah even if we ignore them it seems it alr worked on 1k ppl

short laurel
arctic swan
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What?

short laurel
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Aside from taly every other tiktok about nj has been misinfo.

thorn junco
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i always wanna say smth back to them but i dont wanna get senselessly attacked for being a "hybe supporter" 😔

boreal laurel
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They misinform about everything

short laurel
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If people are really following nj news they've probably seen nj fansites on twitter. N they are saying not to stop support.

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Whether to stop support on ador affiliated nj accounts or not is up to individual, no need to worry about it much, most of Tokkies don't even have time for tiktok or social media n not even aware about the ongoing drama. They'll continue doing what they already doing. Like listen to nj songs n buying merch

arctic swan
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But antis will say "oh newjeans is flopping and losing fans"

wind monolith
arctic swan
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I bet people who comment to stop following are antis lol

short laurel
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Ignore them. They called nj flop while their fav have lower numbers than nj lol

boreal laurel
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Tbf after all this said and done i think ive become dissapointed in the western kpop community overall
Its so wild to see them going from unanimously supporting LOONA in their struggle against bbc and spending years talking about how idols should have more of a voice against companies

Yet here they are with such a deep hatred for a wholesome group and siding with a soulless corporation because they dont vibe with their mentor like what???

short laurel
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Actually Bbc loona case western communities were worse to them too.
N loona case was much more clear than nj case.

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We saw actual work in orbits b word the album cuz loona were not earning anything anyways.
While the haters where people who nvr going to buy any albums anyway. Most are not even orbit lol.

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Similarity in nj case majority of anti's were never into nj, there words n actions means nothing

wind monolith
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Lets see if anything comes out tdy

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steel depot
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anything on ador? they move like a turtle don't know if they will chase newjeans or not...

wind monolith
bronze jetty
short laurel
steel depot
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bunnies are already seated

short laurel
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Apparently the lead actress also suffered witch hunt by the industry

arctic swan
red thorn
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Allegedly kagebunshin no jutsu
Some say that Mainstone, Easton Equity Partners, and Wellblink, the fifth largest shareholder of Big Hit, are all one entity. In addition to the common stock already listed, Wellblink also holds 888,784 shares of convertible preferred stock that can be converted into common stock and traded at any time.
A financial investment industry insider said, “I heard that Mainstone, Easton Equity Partners, and Wellblink, the fifth largest shareholder of Big Hit, are all in the same company.”
https://theqoo.net/square/3509457198

novel pebble
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250 and FRNK owns the copyright

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They can re-record their old songs if they get permissions from BANA

heady gate
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That is easy. It is same as Taylor Swift remasters

jolly junco
frozen bronze
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no its a drama

jolly junco
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OMG they made a whole drama from MHJ vs HYBE story 😭

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jolly junco
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atp the parents should chip in and create a label then appoint MHJ as CEO HanniLul

valid sierra
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https://theqoo.net/hot/3509483134

holyy, all those media play about "we will support NewJeans" coming back at them. also now send this to those saying it was a "dumb" move of them to unilaterally terminate the contract MinjiKek

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red thorn
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I watched a recent video of Seoulitetv, now he is always on top my feed along with some other hybe favoured channels/vids scrolled down
Truly effective algorithm

boreal laurel
cerulean lake
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i pressed not interested bc his face kept jumpscaring me

tiny peak
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I also report the channel too while I'm at it

wind monolith
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tokkisob fk u fraudor

waxen musk
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Things are really going our way and going horribly for Hybe. It's making me nervous. It feels too good to be true.

wind monolith
rain spade
wind monolith
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prbly broadcast thats on the 4th

stiff prairie
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media play monday bring it on i'm ready

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nothing today as well

tawdry vessel
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hybe is cooked

stiff prairie
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they paying big bucks to johny depp's pr team back then only to be advised to stay silent ig

orchid field
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They got audits for embezzlement going on haerinkek

Hope they get imprisoned and banned from the entertainment industry

stiff prairie
orchid field
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Not sure i did not follow that

stiff prairie
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ig it'll take time even if it happens. hanni's one reached the goal way long before she was called

jolly junco
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But BangPD is under investigation for his past secret IPO cost 400billions

tiny peak
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to be clear that's 400B won

stable escarp
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what would be the penalties for him if hes found guilty?

tawdry vessel
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prison 5 to 10 years

stable escarp
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dang too little

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in another world bsh is in prison, mhj is back as ceo, and we would be listening to a full album rn HyeinSad

stiff prairie
heady gate
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400Billion won = 284 million USD = 270 million Euro

jolly junco
heady gate
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3

stiff prairie
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i even lost track of which one is for what lol

harsh doveBOT
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x_ @PoppyKPoppie <t:1733102110:d>

hybe's legal team wondering the switch up that happened in the last four days...from those reverse virals in favor of hybe to front page news about their chairman being involved in a 400B won side deal..
there's not enough golf courses in korea that could keep this news hidden.

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stiff prairie
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don't know kr but think smth about bsh's financial crimes on frontpage news

heady gate
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @kapsoo <t:1733058874:d>

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heady gate
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I don't know Korean, but I am sure he is famous today.

cerulean lake
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bsh here embezzling 400 billion won and the corrupt politician ties might let him go w it this world is cooked if he’s not punished 🤧🙏🙏

stiff prairie
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sadly if anyone is likely to get away w crimes it's a rich guy doing financial crimes. idk how but they keep getting away. law is for the poor

jolly junco
stiff prairie
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i don't know his case but i'd say his shortcoming was not building political relations w donations and stuff using his money. bsh already has that sadly

runic knoll
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BSH/ADOR/HYBE: you can't promote or re-record your music permanently.

BANA's 250 and Frnk: allow us to introduce ourselves.

wind monolith
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i saw a ratmy saying oh hybe should sue mhj for usings bana LMFAO they r so pissed

jolly junco
hoary frost
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whats a bana

jolly junco
#

their hatebone towards newjeans need to be studied

jolly junco
hoary frost
cosmic belfry
#

Wonder how far along NJ1 was with distribution.

hoary frost
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at latest before 2026

heady gate
hoary frost
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and she also make the contract really simple so that NJ can get out without much complications in case

heady gate
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Most ppl didn't realize who created the NJ contract. It wasn't HYBE. It was MHJ.

runic knoll
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what's the current update so far? still waiting right?

stiff prairie
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yep and it's gon be a long wait too

heady gate
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no update from NJ or HYBE. HYBE is busy on the BSH's headline.

jolly junco
steel depot
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i need that shaman in my life

heady gate
jolly junco
orchid field
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mediaplay monday

jolly junco
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why HYBE not under arrest for violating privacy?????

wind monolith
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need that shaman to tell me if im going to pass my exams

jolly junco
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oh my god its gonna be field day for sniper and jjinjins

wind monolith
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wtf is this shit

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well twitter is about to go in flames

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this is not the media i wanted tdy

frozen bronze
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tldr ?

wind monolith
hoary frost
#

what happen??

jolly junco
red thorn
jolly junco
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i dont have the heart to talk about it too

hoary frost
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understandable

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whatever it is, i just hope the girls are safe

frozen bronze
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is it targeted at the girls at all?

jolly junco
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its not about the girls, its about MHJ

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its disgusting

frozen bronze
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disgusting by who

jolly junco
#

Dispatch

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Dispatch should just go to hell and not comeback at all

tiny peak
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I'm so glad NJ is free from HYBE. truly disgusting

hoary frost
cinder verge
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guys wtf happened just tell me

jolly junco
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I really hope that dispatch will get sued for violating people privacy

wind monolith
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alot of stuff for sniper and jjinjin to say nj are manipulated

steel depot
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hybe is just words they can't even show us any evidence

hoary frost
tiny peak
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I skimmed it but I think it mentions Hyein's uncle and family

wind monolith
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dispatch needed to drop this to take away the attraction from bsh

tiny peak
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yeah that's what I'm thinking

jolly junco
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FUCK HYBE

tiny peak
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but the BSH stuff isn't going to magically go away. why can't dispatch write about actual criminal activity

wind monolith
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well this shit kind of sucks

knotty valve
cinder verge
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can someone explain the bsh situation? im not informed. i heard something about 400 billion won

waxen musk
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What's happening with MHJ? There's three links I don't know where to start. All in Korean.

jolly junco
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Is hybe not gonna stop until MHJ kill herself??? This character assassination are too cruel

wind monolith
heady gate
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @juantokki <t:1733048618:d>

”[4,000 Billion Won Man] Former Big Hit PR Head Leaves a Post About Bang Si-hyuk’s Secret 400 Billion Won”

An article about the HYBE chairman’s 400 billion won acquired before the company went public has become a headline in a certain economic publication. I happen to know one of the journalists involved, who primarily covers controversies and issues related to conglomerates, finance, and economics. It feels like they’ve been steadily investigating this for quite a while. They might keep publishing articles until the financial authorities take action.

I don’t know the specifics of financial law or what the exact issue is, but it seems like the line between legality and illegality was cleverly navigated. If I recall correctly, he often claimed that there were things more important than money, acting all sophisticated. But when it comes to money—especially an astronomical sum like this—anyone can change. It’s like how even ham with preservatives will eventually spoil in the fridge.

Wouldn’t it be better if even a small part of that 400 billion was used to shed light on the darker corners of society in the spirit of noblesse oblige? Instead of just treating “Juicy Sister” to fancy meals at high-end restaurants in LA.

source: https://theqoo.net/square/3508785216

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hoary frost
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im sorry if this comes off as rude, but can people educate me more about MHJ's allegations? I've seen countless videos, tweets and shorts talking about how MHJ is as equally bad as Hybe, and I want to make sure I know the full, honest context behind MHJ's allegations so I can fully grasp the entire situation.

note: im currently not taking any sides regarding MHJ. im just neutral on the situation.

wind monolith
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does hybe not understand the more they let others ruin newjeans rep the more newjeans has evidence

lament delta
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hybe is definitely getting cooked

hoary frost
lament delta
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btw r they 100% free from hybe? or is it not confirmed yet

wind monolith
jolly junco
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Lets not spread this, can you delete?

lament delta
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yeah

jolly junco
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Nothing is confirmed about that, so lets not get head jump into it

upbeat stream
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Are they gods?

wind monolith
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im confused at how dispatch even got hold of these text messeges

upbeat stream
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How on earth would they get messages sent by her to their families?

wind monolith
#

exactly that makes zero sense

upbeat stream
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From a foreign service like Telegram no less

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So it's not even that they got some connection at kakaoTalk

lament delta
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guys what does labang mean

wind monolith
#

mhj needs to come out with a statement

cobalt zodiac
lament delta
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i hope newjeans will sue sniper and other anti incels on many platforms once they pursue their own activities

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can u dm me and tell me what it means? i understand 0% of that bs lmao

wind monolith
#

get nj out of korea atp

lament delta
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yeah nj needs to sue dispatch as well

hushed whale
wind monolith
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this is not the statement we were waiting for

thick needle
tiny peak
waxen musk
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I wish people could explicitely explain what the article talks about and what they are thinking without us having to resort to asking people in DMs. Even just spoiler tag it and MAKE IT CLEAR that none of this is confirmed and is all from Dispatch, who have a history of not being trusted.
Anyway I'll slowly try to read these horrible Google translations I'm struggling to understand now in the meantime.

lament delta
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translations suck bruh

upbeat stream
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I'm sorry dude but it's something that shouldn't be talked about here at all

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I deleted

knotty valve
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Yeah vague talks about this just gets me so confused, let’s just wait at this point for a validation of all this

tiny peak
#

MHJ looks good these days at least

gleaming scarab
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dispatch really likes stalking people

hushed whale
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ye crazy

jolly junco
short laurel
tired ingot
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could you guys DM it to me what the article about

tawdry vessel
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disgusting

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dont read or share

tiny peak
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it's so f*cking low

upbeat stream
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Well it'll spread everywhere anyway because it's fucking dispatch

wind monolith
#

-jun

tall dewBOT
torn edge
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i'm curious...imma go read it

jolly junco
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Yes please dont share in here or in any other channel, lets not spread that kind of negativity

tiny peak
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like there are lines that shouldn't be crossed, HYBE and dispatch are going to hell

tired ingot
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trust the girls

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waxen musk
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It's kind of going to be impossible to ignore any of this even if ignoring it is what you are suggesting to do.

rain spade
#

they trying to frame mhj as the bad person?

wind monolith
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they went to the point to follow hanni thats crazy

jolly junco
waxen musk
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Ofc not

stiff prairie
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haven't read it but it's no surprise a company being sued by team bunnies because they released the member's private videos (while they were underaged) without their permission releases another article that will hurt them

short laurel
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U can read if u want, it's stupid stuff about shaman doesn't make sense lol

torn edge
jolly junco
tired ingot
tiny peak
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we just need to focus on NJ freedom and their future

waxen musk
#

I'm just tired so my reading comprehension is awful. I'd sleep now but want to understand by my brain ain't working which is why I'm frustrated with myself right now. tokkiCANT

short laurel
waxen musk
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https://x.com/juantokki/status/1863476119657488495

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

HYBE and their paid mangy media cronies are now working overtime to shift the narrative, painting the situation as if everything was orchestrated and premeditated by the MHJ and their team. They’re trying to frame the contract breach as solely the responsibility of the girls’

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wind monolith
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this report is out for two rzns to sway public opinion and to shift stuff away from bsh

upbeat stream
#

well the girls and mhj can collude all they want and it still won't be tampering. They just HAVE to make sure to not leave a money trail if investment is also involved

short laurel
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"Shaman attenpted to enter the mans body" this alone throws away entire article 🤣

upbeat stream
#

I'm just praying that no money trail exists, seems dispatch doesn't have it otherwise they would have said so

cerulean lake
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fucking hate dispatch literally soulless like tmz hope they go bankrupt along w hybe

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wait can the members not sue for leaking messages or smth

stiff prairie
#

Min Hee-jin asked 4 to 5 men who could help her to perform a love spell. The shaman made a shamanistic attempt to enter(?) the other man's body.
bro are we doing fanfics now?

upbeat stream
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Guys I want you to know that tampering involves money. mhj can order the girls to terminate and they do so, it still won't be tampering

short laurel
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Case is on ador to prove there's no breach of trusts, nj just have to refute it, mhj involved not have to come in.

knotty valve
tiny peak
#

I feel so sorry for the girls, imagine knowing you're being surveiled all the time

cloud glen
sage pilot
sage pilot
cinder verge
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bro, how is dispatch still a thing they be doing all this illegal shit

wind monolith
#

i just hope this doesnt put the main situation back a few steps hybe is rlly trying to get public on thieir side

upbeat stream
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public is not an issue

sage pilot
short laurel
cloud glen
#

How can anyone even say those telegram messages are legit

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They can easily be faked

wind monolith
knotty valve
cerulean lake
#

does team bunnies have any evidence that dispatch is on hybe’s payroll

upbeat stream
#

They can't break encryption, even cia struggles with that

warm shard
cerulean lake
#

even tho it’s like an open secret atp i need them to go downhill omg

flint stone
#

I overslept today, is it mediaplay monday again?

wind monolith
sage pilot
#

it's obvious it's photoshopped. they're getting VERY desprate. this kind of shit was to be expected

cloud glen
hushed whale
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ye the telegram ss they used is weird, its from pov of the family member too

wind monolith
#

i will never understand how u r literally allowed to stalk someone

sage pilot
#

well this gives more reason to sue dispatch and hybe again 😁

warm shard
flint stone
wind monolith
stiff prairie
cloud glen
warm shard
cloud glen
stiff prairie
normal marlin
#

what is the dispatch article everyones talking abt😿

cloud glen
#

all i know is that telegram is pretty encrypted because ik a lot of sketchy stuff goes on there and goes on unnoticed

warm shard
cinder verge
#

wtf is dabolink?

hushed whale
#

davolink, a nugu wifi router company HanniLul

stiff prairie
#

i tried to read it but i think i damaged my brain

hoary frost
#

lol this is just giving desperate vibes from hybe they throwing anything now

cinder verge
#

what in the fuck does davolink have to do with anything

cloud glen
sage pilot
tiny peak
#

dabolink is the new "Saudi Prince"

flint stone
hoary frost
#

they dont care abt how easily it can be proven false they just want the noise and weird articles floating around

split bramble
#

are dispatch not worried? either they faked msgs or they partook in some very illegal hacking to get msgs off telegram, either way some very serious legal cases will fall before them now, do they need to protect BSH this much that their own livelihood can get sacrificed for it?

cloud glen
cinder verge
#

also how do you hug someone with restraint? they really just pulling shit out of their ass atp

steel depot
#

dispatch should go down too

cinder verge
stiff prairie
#

hybe wil pay for their lawyers

jolly junco
heady gate
#

This is funny. Dispatch has an article about how MHJ influenced NJ. They should write about how BSH took 400 billion won and manipulated the investors.

cerulean lake
#

so were they mainly attacking mhj in this article

mild mist
cinder verge
waxen musk
#

I will never trust text messages after what happened in the past. Also can't photos be completely out of context and attached to a story despite lacking relevancy? (Not saying they are or aren't, just saying they could be.)

cerulean lake
#

atp i think nj expected this bc they did say in the press conference that they know media play will happen

cinder verge
heady gate
#

We need some informers inside Dispatch.

sage pilot
jolly junco
tall dewBOT
stiff prairie
#

Today, the Dispatch reporter who followed Min Hee-jin and wrote the article is said to be the reporter who was accused by Timbernees in September of violating the Personal Information Protection Act of New Jeans members.

cloud glen
sage pilot
narrow sealBOT
waxen musk
sage pilot
#

it seems like the "leaked info" first appeared on GP999 lmao

narrow sealBOT
stiff prairie
wind monolith
#

ik its very easy to photoshop text messege i can photoshop anyones discord messege here in flat 2 seconds

cerulean lake
#

notice they released it when there was more traction abt bsh and his stocks

rain spade
wind monolith
#

bet

heady gate
#

The problem is rumors spread quicker than facts.

warm shard
waxen musk
#

Basically at this point, based on Dispatch's history, none of this can be trusted.
Just making it clear, I think most of us know this already.
I was just trying to understand what they were saying even if I doubt any of it is true. It's good to at least understand what antis are saying.

wind monolith
cloud glen
tiny peak
#

well anyways, hope the 400 billion articles keep coming

waxen musk
#

Anyway now I'm reminded of just how distrustful and manipulated Dispatch's "evidence" has been in the past I'll try to sleep now. tokkisob (My brain is barely functioning.)

hoary frost
rain spade
sage pilot
#

also, it's a perfect opportunity to remind everyone, esp those who don't know, we DO NOT HAVE mhj's ORIGINAL kkt chats. only the court has them. all the chats that hybe stans keep throwing around are FAKED by hybe. it's been proven multiple times. don't let yourself be fooled tokkilove

jolly junco
wind monolith
#

i was studying fkin surface area/flux of 3d surface and i got distracted now its 3 am

stuck fjord
#

they're obviously doing this to shift the attention back to MHJ and the girls, as 🐷 is about to be investigated for his investment deal with the PEFs

cinder verge
#

finna watch mma 2023 and go to bed type shi

wind monolith
#

so first it was mhj trying to take ador with her and now its mhj trying to take nj wow

split bramble
#

maybe will take a little time until it's widely accepted that these chats are faked, but hybe dont care they're on a public opinion warfare

wind monolith
tiny peak
#

they defrauded 400B won. like imagine the severity of that crime. I don't care how many shamans MHJ knows (allegedly)

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i'm just hoping this has something like a Streisand effect and keeps the focus on HYBEs crimes

sage pilot
#

let's see if ADOR will protect NJ haerinkek they insisted that NJ are still their artists, and Dispatch stalked Hanni. go on, ADOR, sue dispatch

cinder verge
#

ador not finna do shit HanniLul

tardy smelt
#

i'm just gonna clock out of today's development early, i do not feel like going back to the dispatch parts of this conflict

sage pilot
warm shard
tiny peak
#

from the looks of it, this isn't going to sway any pro-NJ k-netz. you'd need a lot more to reverse months of evidence of HYBE wrongdoings

cerulean lake
#

yeah if ador claims they didn’t breach the contract then go ahead and respond to dispatch or sue them 🥱 if not that’s even a bigger reason for nj to lose trust in them

heady gate
#

Dispatch is the only news outlet to talk about the MHJ chat. The rest of the news outlets are covering BSH issue.

copper jetty
#

Also not to downplay this dispatch article but I think in real world Koreans would be more concerned with the bsh article than the MHJ one.

copper jetty
sage pilot
heady gate
sage pilot
copper jetty
#

What's the context of this?? Who stalked who??

lament delta
#

probably mhj and nj

#

bc of the mediaplay and negative articles

sage pilot
stiff prairie
# sage pilot tokkis click on this instead!! it's about bsh issue

lmao a comment from that article

After doing this, Min Hee-jin is the only one who exploded on the DP. Haha. I can see that they are trying to cover up the 400 billion won they lost. But that idiot is stalking you by digging up KakaoTalk. It's really annoying you. They even said that the reporters who wrote the article were the ones who were sued by the Timbernees? I can just see the purpose of this comment lol.

red thorn
sage pilot
wind monolith
vague shore
cerulean lake
copper jetty
#

Hopefully the dispatch author and the person in hybe. Cause we all know it's from them. HanniLul

heady gate
#

Is KakaoTalk a reliable source of information?

#

I know it is a popular chat program in Korea

red thorn
#

I wonder when was the taxi stalker-crocs incident happened

sage pilot
jolly junco
vague shore
jolly junco
#

i need MHJ to write letters and use dove as a letter courier instead of using kkt and telegram from now on

steel depot
sage pilot
steel depot
#

i hope they fire that writer... how can they get away from this again...

split bramble
wind monolith
steel depot
tiny peak
#

the fact they were stalking Hanni before her National Assembly appearance (if that timeline is to be believed) is horrible. that's not how a free democratic country is supposed to work

vague shore
steel depot
split bramble
vague shore
#

I think this is their last-ditch effort to deal with Bang’s 400 billion won case and dive into a battle to mess with NJ's image

sage pilot
flint stone
stiff prairie
#

lots of comments saying how the dispatch article was a cover up for this

sage pilot
#

MHJ got a lecture on dec 6.. it's gonna be fire haerinkek

cerulean lake
#

so if ador does nothing isn’t this literally more proof for the court that the trust between nwjns and them has been broken if ador ever tries to sue them

steel depot
#

my msg wasn't sent again TT btw thanks for the inputs i barely catch up on team bunnies updates... this is gonna be the last time hybe and dispatch can sht on mhj...

cerulean lake
#

sorry but those dispatch authors are rotten when you have them valuing money over morals

frozen bronze
#

if anyone could tldr in my dm what is actually said in the article it would be appreciated

jolly junco
unborn jewel
#

the rollercoaster of "its so over" and "we're so back" continues 😭

vague shore
#

Last time NJ's pre-debut video got leaked, ADOR didn’t lift a finger If they don’t do anything again, it just proves they have no intention of protecting NJ (if they think contract is still in place) Once again, Karma is real

wind monolith
#

As a law student hybe should take stuff to court rather than media

short laurel
#

Bsh 400b stocks manipulation is mhj's fault.

cerulean lake
#

they’re relying on the media for a reason 🥴

red thorn
#

Dispatch is cyber wrecker
It was so right NJ held their position with press con

waxen musk
jolly junco
heady gate
cerulean lake
jolly junco
steel depot
frozen bronze
#

from the way some people were talking about the article in here i was imagining very bad things

heady gate
#

I didn't read it

cerulean lake
#

i mean it’s bad in the context that we all know lapdogs of sniper and jinjjins will eat it up

jolly junco
heady gate
cerulean lake
#

bro can someone hack into those accs along w seoulite like life would be so much easier if they’re permanently gone

short laurel
tiny peak
#

disgusting filth

unborn jewel
cerulean lake
#

i wish i had hacking skills best believe im going into their accs and deleting them

cerulean lake
frozen bronze
#

trick those accounts into posting bad about bts so they get doxed within a minute

sage pilot
#

it's on pannchoa now, translated. everyone who wants can go take a look

unborn jewel
#

panchoa is good right

cerulean lake
#

depends but they’re actually more rational than reddit people

warm shard
#

pannchoa just uses papago at least half of the time i think

cerulean lake
#

which really shows how stupid reddit can be 😵‍💫 since pannchoa commenters can be trolls

unborn jewel
#

ive seen their twitter not be silent like the other news accounts

wind monolith
#

So far as i have seen knetz r flaming dispatch and hybe