NJZ Updates and Discussion

[short laurel]

Ok that's unrelated. Thing here is girls are confident that ador breached the contract hence if ador sue n girls are wrong they'll have to pay penalty. But if girls win, the ador can do nothing. All girls did is put the responsibility to sue on ador.

[lyric geyser]

New hair, new tee, new name, do you see

[lethal hound]

Denying facts.. though i ono if thays really the way

[hoary frost]

facts?

[lethal hound]

This is the best argument

[wind monolith]

They just didnt decide to lesve cuz they r famous tf. They r leaving for a completely valid rzn

[thorn junco]

those arent facts 😭😭 what even are those sources?

[lethal hound]

Their way of out is using the breach of contract to get it terminated

[stiff prairie]

you can stay woke and we can be in denial and time will tell what happens. this arguement is very pointless

[lethal hound]

Fifty fifty case anyone?

[wind monolith]

Which is valid and has good evidence

[thorn junco]

which is valid?

[short laurel]

Also girls did gave hybe 14 days ultimatum. 2 months if u count previous luve. So duty to prove falls on ador now.

[hoary frost]

stop comparing different artists cases lmao

[wind monolith]

Completely different situation

[hoary frost]

even if they are financial analyst numbers are still speculation not facts

[lethal hound]

Yes facts and passed laws and by financial corporate analyst. Entertainment company valuation is heavily monitored in korea

[lethal hound]

Same laws apply

[short laurel]

Guys calm down. We'll know legal details later when nj legal representative release them. Be4 that we know nothing n our words on it means nothing

[lethal hound]

Just cause its newjeans country laws dont cchange

[wind monolith]

Their fkin situation was different then nj

[short lynx]

Atleast theyll be free artists ig

[thorn junco]

analyzing isnt a fact its pretty much an educated guess

[short laurel]

N cloud knows korean more than us.

[lethal hound]

Same laws apply again

[thorn junco]

which law then

[wind monolith]

Yes which also means u can compare the two cases two

[lethal hound]

Cant back out of a contract just cause they feel like it

[thorn junco]

breach of contract exists

[wind monolith]

But they can cause of breach which there is evidence for

[lethal hound]

Which is would agree is the best way to go

[stiff prairie]

?

[lethal hound]

But trials

[thorn junco]

so u agree they arent backing out cuz they "feel like it"?

[short laurel]

Again, they didn't back out cuz of that, they gave ador 14 days ultimatum according to contract n law.

[lethal hound]

Courts to prove this it just wont be that simple

[lethal hound]

Yeah but sorry to say 50/50 used the same argument

[hoary frost]

lol penalty fee is the only straw they could grasp at so antis could feel that they won

[acoustic marsh]

I think speculation would hurt us more, when we can wait for wht the girls n their reps say abt wht is next

[lethal hound]

Up to the judges and court to decide

[wind monolith]

50/50 didnt give 14 days thats y the lost mainly

[short laurel]

What nj did today is made the burden of proof on ador. as for 50 50 case, court said girls didn't give company 14 days notice

[lethal hound]

Im referring to the breach of contract to run away from their penalties

[acoustic marsh]

And we still have yet to know what the contract is between the girls and hybe/ador

[stiff prairie]

did fifty fifty's company do what hybe did? why you keep comparing these two

[lethal hound]

14 days is something NJ just did as an ultimatum

Not really a step to get thru a loophole

[stiff prairie]

you forget that hybe has to hold their part of contracts too if they do whatever they feel like the members can too

[wind monolith]

What ??? Ur suppose to give the company 14 days its procedure

[short laurel]

Yea so now girls can sue ador, but they instead asking ador to sue them putting burden of proof on ador.

[hoary frost]

alright cloud you already know better than us just calm down and wait like the rest of us

[lethal hound]

Because… they are going thru the same problem point of ending contract prematurely and both are trying to use the breach of contract argument to get out…? Like i understand there emotions involved but lets get realistic here

[stiff prairie]

you don't know what you're talking about sorry to say. you have to by law give 14 days time for other party to make things right. if you don't you can breach contracts that's it

[hoary frost]

okay if that what makes you sleep at night cloud we hear you

[stiff prairie]

now hybe can sue if they wish

[thorn junco]

we all know ur js 100% right and we should all listen to you bc ur the only being realisitic here

[lethal hound]

Not saying it like that im just providing sources and the nature of the situation to a realistic point

[hoary frost]

wow thanks for all the help

[short laurel]

Again doesn't matter what girls doing now. Ador can sue if they think they are in right. Whoever wins pays for it. Girls are not sueing.

[lethal hound]

G dragon went thru the same thing btw

[wind monolith]

Ur rlly not tho ur just saying breach of contract = fees idc if they breach of contract is true or not

[acoustic marsh]

Utilmately i think we can think wht we want to think but it can go so many different ways that might or might not go the way we want to. But we just hv to let it run and trust the members

[thorn junco]

those sources arent even good they have no credibility

[lethal hound]

He had a company buyout his contract… its something every kpop artist have to go thru. NJ wont get special treatment from the court system… wth

[sly python]

guys i will consult with my shaman this week regarding this entire newjeans situation & let u guys know asap

[acoustic marsh]

HAHAHA this

[stiff prairie]

newjeans are special

[thorn junco]

they didnt? lmao.

[short laurel]

Idols sued the company in those cases though

[vague shore]

Dude No company has ever deliberately tried to reverse-viral their own artist

[acoustic marsh]

I will consult with my tarot dude

[elfin pewter]

Really man! Thanks

[lethal hound]

…. Okay… like what would be a better source than korean news and financial analyst talking about contracts and lawyers giving their input….

[stiff prairie]

naver?

[short laurel]

U sure it's 300m usd n not 300m won?

[lethal hound]

Yes naver points to these articles

[thorn junco]

do they have any credibility? dyk what credibility means?

[lethal hound]

Naver is a tech company..

[hoary frost]

i think hybe has a hotline i bet they could use all your expertise better than here

[thorn junco]

yes they have a finicial analyst js bc they sai so wonderful article there

[short laurel]

Why i feel like i m being ignored

[stiff prairie]

...

[lethal hound]

400 something billion won which means around 300 something million usd

[short laurel]

Ohk

[elfin pewter]

That's a lot dam

[lethal hound]

Your not you are making the most sense here

[hoary frost]

omg i hope they dont have to pay that

[short laurel]

Ok now read this pls

[elfin pewter]

C'mon bunnies let’s work harder

[short laurel]

N move on from fighting.

[acoustic marsh]

wht r we even fighting abt 😭

[lethal hound]

Yeah i would suspect a lot of legal loops to get the no penalty and to get out of contracts

[stiff prairie]

defending the fort

[short laurel]

Actual value would be lower since hybe itself wants to lower nj value

[stiff prairie]

[lethal hound]

Theres a formula

[acoustic marsh]

I agree, bottomline we don’t know anything we just hv to trust them

[hoary frost]

idk that cloud guy seem smart i think he know better than us

[lethal hound]

Its like 7 times last year earnings times how many years left (around there)

[vague shore]

It’s not a loophole NJ believes they can prove that the company is responsible for the breach of trust and that's all

[short laurel]

I just remembered in 50 50 case. Company gave girls chance to talk. In nj case company not want to talk to nj.

[potent lichen]

The easy thing to do would have been not take action and just suffer under Hybe. But they didn’t do that and went through this

[lethal hound]

Thats would be the best route but could be hard to pull off and a long battle

[frozen bronze]

we simply dont know anything, no point in speculating

[short laurel]

Actually he knows about korean more than us. But again it doesn't matter. Burden to sue is on ador, not nj.

[potent lichen]

Gotta trust the girls that they have guidance and know what to do

[thorn junco]

gng lets js wait it out

[short laurel]

Formula is written in contract link above or in their thread

[lethal hound]

Okay yeah i forgot the exact details but yes there is a formula to determine value of their penalty

Sorry guys im not trying to be downer

[short laurel]

Tldr it's on ador to prove they didn't breach the contact.

[hoary frost]

its fine cloud we believe you you could stop now

[short laurel]

Ok everyone stop. Lets move on...

[stiff prairie]

the main chat has gon crazy. they been at it since forever

[lethal hound]

🤷🏻‍♂️ just being realistic

[elfin pewter]

When hyein said they wont give up the name NJ, I think they also meant for the previous albums and stuff. How can it be possible

[lethal hound]

Fine its all good i get it. Not a good time

[short laurel]

They'll try to fight for ip rights in future

[acoustic marsh]

I think wht we need now is to cheer each other up instead of fighting, the members just got out of hybe and we’re all a bit sad

[wind monolith]

Main chat is hell

[short laurel]

I open main char n 1st thing i read is complaint on mhj...

[stiff prairie]

look man cloud you have your opinions and conclusions and we have ours. in the end time will tell who pays what and what their future holds. we can just go on by our lives in the meantime. if it's being delusional we can take it as a cope

[short laurel]

Ok cake stop

[lethal hound]

I get it i get it

Just sayin the loops we all have to go thru in the future

[wind monolith]

We got a lawyer in the main chat saying

100% they will never get the name

[stiff prairie]

yeah things will get difficult either way. just gotta be patient

[wind monolith]

I swear like u r putting 100% with no grounds hes not the fkin court to decide that

[mild mist]

the fact of the matter is:
we do not know what is written in the contracts

[hoary frost]

im a lawyer and i play subway surfer

[acoustic marsh]

Even if they don’t get the name they’ll be ot5 so im good with tht 😚

[short laurel]

Nope, chances are low but there's still small chance for nj to get it. These things are very complex. No one can comment much on these without knowing contract.

[lethal hound]

Anyways best solution is to convince an investor or company to pay for all this mess and do some sort of a buyout

[wind monolith]

Exactly idk y they being so certain

[elfin pewter]

Yes 💯

[vague shore]

Hyein said they’ll try, not that they’d definitely succeed

[short laurel]

Both sides are being certain when none of us knows anything. Other fandoms are making fun of us by saying things like "this drama will make us professional law experts"

[vague shore]

Nobody knows what proof NJ has Just wait and trust the girls

[stiff prairie]

i was just holding down the forts lol

main chat is on fire. this is my only safe space now

[short laurel]

Getting bored at someone's wendy i m forced to attend. This is my only time pass

[acoustic marsh]

I think we need to realize we don’t know the details for the contract they initially signed so we hv no basis to speculate wht is bound to happen

[elfin pewter]

I mean if those names and the previous albums are the price for true liberation, I feel worth it
I cannot see them dealing with those people anymore

[lucid yarrow]

blast NJ or ask them change music

[acoustic marsh]

Literally they stoood up for wht they believed in so im good with wht they did for themselves

[stiff prairie]

bravejeans

[cerulean lake]

well anyways the burden of proof is on ador now right?

like they have to be the ones providing evidence that nj breached the contract?

[wind monolith]

Yes

[stiff prairie]

basically they'll sue when the girls sign with another company or thier own

[hoary frost]

is tikki tokki gonna sub the whole thing?

[elfin pewter]

That is so dirty

[cerulean lake]

it’s hybe they’ve always been dirty

[stiff prairie]

i hope so. njbubblegum ig transcripted it in english

[short laurel]

They said they will but the main content nj wanted to shared they said it in English in presscon so u can watch it.

[acoustic marsh]

Are we still gonna follow new jeans’ accounts? Bc i feel weird now tht they said terminate contract

[elfin pewter]

Yeah same
They just posted photos after the press con

[lethal hound]

Good point.. but maybe wait until everything gets finalized?

[cerulean lake]

it seems like the way mhj sent up their contracts w ador is different than usual

[acoustic marsh]

Maybe so

I think i’ll give it a couple of days thn imma do tht

[onyx hearth]

LMFAOO I SAW THOSE

[hoary frost]

i just got a question if they finally free from ador whos handling them right now then like im pretty sure the sponsors of the events they are attending are taking care of them but whos managing them arent them from ador or hybe

[lethal hound]

Btw galaxy corp bought out GDs yg contract

[acoustic marsh]

Did y’all see wht ador wrote as a response to the press conference? LMAO

It sounds so threatening

[elfin pewter]

I haven’t. Can I see

[acoustic marsh]

https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1862127859940135183?s=46&t=zvnSwmEJIzEdtMTxNVcZtA

[thorn junco]

i was replying to ur comment abt them getting special treatment ml

[acoustic marsh]

My actual reaction to tht: https://x.com/vminnsm/status/1862147248768843834?s=46&t=zvnSwmEJIzEdtMTxNVcZtA

[elfin pewter]

Ah thanks

Why don't they just visit to their dorm

[acoustic marsh]

Atp we all know it’s bullshit they’re just too late and scrambling for anything—someone wrote on the comments “imagine u broke up with ur ex but they think ure not”

Sorry but, thank u, next frfr

[lethal hound]

https://chambers.com/legal-trends/penalties-and-punitive-damages-under-south-korean-law

Article 398 civil law act. Just providing legit sourcing for my earlier statements

[warm hedge]

Is it confirmed NJ wont have to pay termination fee for leaving?

[mild mist]

not confirmed, just their words

it will go to court to decide if ador broke the contract, and likely the case will drag on for a long time

[stiff prairie]

No because hybe will sue and court will tell. Untill then they're free to do whatever

[elfin pewter]

Fk that’s bad
It probably will take so long

[split bramble]

I can see hybe/ador refusing to sue for as long as possible, the moment they sue they give NJ the chance to submit stacks of docs in the court which will find their way to media

[warm hedge]

I think it’s a smart move, otherwise they could lose another year without releasing album, doing world tour etc

[elfin pewter]

Ah gg

[split bramble]

even 5% leakage of 'music industry reports' have started multiple criminal cases, imagine if all of it gets leaked, and I bet NJ, MHJ, Team Bunnies have the entire reports

[stiff prairie]

Thing is they can now make music and stuff. Hybe will have to sue them and win for otherwise. Till then they're free

[elfin pewter]

#newjeans-chat message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1732827018:f>

from 300a

Hybe has money and time. Money gets you better lawyers and allows you to waste more time in court
[Jump to message](#newjeans-chat message)

[warm hedge]

I’m guessing the legal case will be more about fees rather than actually stopping NJ from releasing music. So I’d say, from now on they’re free

[pulsar wasp]

I felt despair this entire year for the future of NWJNS. But, after reading their statements, I feel a strange sense of pride and trust in them, and their team.

[elfin pewter]

Hybe has money and time
That is fking true
The girls don’t have neither of them
Youth won’t come twice
I hope for the best

[stiff prairie]

If they didn't take this action hybe woulda mistreated them for next 5 yrs and their adulthood would go away as well

[elfin pewter]

That is a worse scenario
I am glad they are trying to leave
Hope they can truly be free
Fees thing is least problematic thing for the girls imo

[split bramble]

not that much, on a pile of debt and whatever they earn by overworking idols gets siphoned off to pay for piggy's expenditures

[silver warren]

Wait what’s a koreaboo?

[mild mist]

news site

[lethal hound]

Kpop oriented news website

[silver warren]

Ohhh thanks

[hoary frost]

Forgot one thing, the girls r rich rich

[jolly junco]

Please tell me no one die and spread more misinfo while i was sleeping

[hoary frost]

No one died

[wind monolith]

They did main chat was crazy

[potent lichen]

Wow you sleep fast

[hoary frost]

Vous never sleeps

Japan love newjeans

[red thorn]

I don't forget that personally
That fact gives me little bit of reassurance to not to worry too much
Can focus more to cheer them on to fight

[hoary frost]

Yup, I mean Minji went to Hanlim which isnt cheap, Danielle and Hyein were both stars even before debut n p sure Haerin and Hanni r also well off

[steep torrent]

good explanation on what they are doing now
https://x.com/eins73859/status/1862171043710021758?s=46

ㅅㅌ (@eins73859) on X

I think it's like this

1. If NewJeans files a lawsuit against ADOR, NewJeans would need to prove the legitimacy of their contract termination first. This process could delay their activities until a verdict is reached, causing them more harm in the meantime.

2. If NewJeans

Twitter · Nov 28, 2024, 4:25 PM

[jolly junco]

I will take care of my work first then i’ll be back. In the meantime do not bring other groups into NJ vs HYBE discussion unless absolutely neccessary

Also please remember, you are not the lawyer for the girls. They have their own legal counsel, they dont act without proper counsel from their legal team. They also has said in presscon yesterday that they will explain more in terms of the legal aspect of what they are doing SOON

[hoary frost]

YALL THIS MAC AND CHEESE EATIN TF DOWN.. MY AUNTIE DAMN GOOD 😩

waut wrong channel OMGGGGGG sorry

[thorn junco]

will there music still sound the same bc leaving hybe means they have diff producers right unless those producers leave with njs which i rlly hope so

[jolly junco]

The said producer is MHJ, so yes they will

[thorn junco]

oo tyy

i thought mhj was the director tho and that she oversaw the music production and stuff

[jolly junco]

She is credited as their producer in every MV and music they released

[thorn junco]

oo alr tysm

we'll have Wooseok Shin for sure thoo i love his mvss

[short laurel]

Bana are producer. Fakeador already separated from them.

[thorn junco]

oo alrrr tyy i hope njs can work with them in their future productions

[waxen musk]

Just seeing everyone confused and saying "they can't do that" is insane. Obviously they wouldn't do it if they didn't think they could.
I seriously trust the girls so much I wish it was easier to make people understand.

[short laurel]

Fake ador saperated from every core members who worked to make NJ that we love.

[sweet pebble]

yup

[jolly junco]

People who are saying this, they are just not used to kpop idol to stand up and fighting for themselves

Mind you, the girls are not just some idol. They are a true artist who value their musicality and theirselves by standing up for what they believes

[shy schooner]

Every contract is different for each artist

[unborn jewel]

Suddenly everyone a law student

[raw dove]

Ikr

That’s only when we need to encourage people we love

Supportttt ❤️❤️❤️💪💪💪

[short laurel]

What nj did is unprecedended so no one knows anything about how court will look at this.

Number 1 rule of reddit: kpop reddit is owned by hybe bots.

[waxen musk]

In time, what happens will prove every one of these doubters wrong.

[hoary frost]

i think its mostly coming from the fans of the groups that min heejin threw under the bus, and they "dislike" newjeans cause they stick beside her

[short lynx]

Real

[short lynx]

just a bunch of kids lol

[waxen musk]

I see people still confused and thinking it could still work out at Hybe. Like... have you not seen what's happening? They've given them way too many chances.

[mild mist]

Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by idiocy

[waxen musk]

Hard not to vent about the people who don't understand everything. I mean we don't either but at least we listen to the girls and trust them. I think it's everyone's venting time in here right now.

[acoustic valve]

any1 notice what necklace Hyein was wearing? 🥹

[lucid yarrow]

more like thy threw themselves under the bus by engaging in the fanwars trolls i mean there were so many groups ppl claim she said lol

[short laurel]

They already making wrong translation of yesterdays press n spreading it. Even though girls shared their stance in english

[brave stone]

As a fan of nwjns illit and lsf, the people sending hate to all three groups are more than likely trolls trying to get the fans riled up so they attack back, but if some people who are sending hate are actually fans of either group, it’s just them being toxic and not understanding what she or anyone else meant. Its best to just ignore them

[brisk pelican]

btw, i am not in any way shape or form a mhj defender, i really don't invest much of my time or thought into CEOs of any corporation. but i just think it's crazy how people will criticize MHJ (and newjeans girls in the process) and then turn a blind eye to everything that BSH is allegedly guilty of. its misogyny at its finest

[hoary frost]

Its never the idols fault, its the company

[short laurel]

It's all over throughout mhj career even in sm. She took the blame of things she had no control over while male ceo gets barely any hate.

[blazing sky]

Fr I will never company bootlick anybody hybe ador mhj or bsh I'll only support the idols wherever they go bc it's not their fault so many adults disappointed them and didn't protect them 💔 newjeans girlies atw

[brave stone]

People who say that if you support Newjeans, you support mhj or ador, or if you support illit/lsf you support hybe/bsh are dumb as fuck like no I’m here for the idols not the company

[short laurel]

There's a reason why every fandom hates this 1 fandom.

[hoary frost]

Im not trying to be messy but you-know-whos r so angry at the girls for no reason like ur idol supports them 😭

[short laurel]

They are not their idols fans, since these guys rejecting hanni's law just cuz hanni's name on it.

[brave stone]

No literally like I want to see them perform bruh, and even if I don’t like mhj (please don’t attack me) if Newjeans really want her back since shes the only one who’s treated them well, then that’s saying something about hybe and bsh

[hoary frost]

LMAO THAT WAS KINDA FUNNY 😭😭😭 like wdym “Good” LOL

[pulsar meteor]

it’s actually crazy how much misinformation I’m seeing ab this termination like I feel what they did is very simple once u read yet there’s ppl saying they didn’t actually terminate or that they can’t choose on their own 😭😭 I don’t rlly see stuff like this too often but it’s like the first thing I see when I open every app now lol

[short laurel]

Good???

[red thorn]

Those people rather than care of the idols better situation they don't want their kpop scene interrupted so their typical comment, "NJ should've stay neutral" and etc.
How come they can stay neutral or stay put if they are the one directly involved and feel themselves and people they're close with wronged

[frozen bronze]

the speculationists and misinformationists are especially many this time

[hoary frost]

Did u see the tweet? One tweet was saying Hanni was dumb or smth, then a tokki replied with “I hope your idols get excluded from this law” or something along the line of that, and the army repliedwith “Good”

[lucid yarrow]

all media that put disband in title is just clickbait

[blazing sky]

I know nothing ab mhj but I know the girls have been working with her for years so they know her better than I do. People online seem to think they know every single bit ab mhj like bro have u met her? Also they said (in the translation) that they would like to work with mhj IF SHE WAS WILLING TO, not to be devils advocate but who says she would even want to? People are spreading misinformation like she 100% is going to

I know it's def in the cards but it's not like the girls confirmed it

[short laurel]

Ooh lol

[acoustic valve]

eh, I'm a MHJ defender. Why do people get so fucking weird about her, gtfo

[jolly junco]

Can we just curse HYBE instead of MHJ? Even if you dont like her

[brave stone]

Honestly I feel everyone that has higher power should go down lol

[jolly junco]

You dont have to say “i dont like her”
Lets just curse HYBE and leave it at that

[blazing sky]

They all suck lol as long as the girls are happy I'm happy whether that's with hybe or mhj or even someone completely different I'll follow them wherever they go

[brave stone]

Period

[waxen musk]

I'll defend everything MHJ has done for NewJeans. Everything before that I feel so uneducated on and still have doubts I wish would go away. But literally EVERY SINGLE THING she's done for NewJeans has been for their benefit.

[short laurel]

I will not hate mhj n like being neutral about her to this day not a single person she worked with hate on her. So it's crazy how much she gets hated for so long.

[steel depot]

NJ Updates TT

[hoary frost]

Is there any way that the footage of the manager saying "ignore her" to hanni will ever be leaked or brought into discussion?

[waxen musk]

They deleted it. Only Hanni has a voice recording of what the security people said about it when she spoke to them.

[steel depot]

same TT

[wind monolith]

Hybe deleted it

[jolly junco]

They delete it from their system, i guess there is no way it will

[short laurel]

It'll be used in court by nj if ador sues them.

[red thorn]

That cctv issue is crucial, it's not minor transgression if true
The manager's misconduct is just the tip

[short laurel]

N it's an issue that could've been solved very easily. Not like that manager was someone in higher up. N even hanni asked them if it was a misunderstanding of her then clear it.
The fact they couldn't even do that is laughable

[waxen musk]

Their demands were so reasonable.

And we know that's how old Ador operated anyway.

[short laurel]

Hanni's case was easiest to solve for ador lol

[wind monolith]

Do yall think ador or hybe gonna come out with something new

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/tikkitokki22/status/1862271016401043730?s=46

[narrow seal]

241128 tikkitokki22 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/tikkitokki22/status/1862271016401043730
(ENG SUB) FULL NewJeans Emergency Press Conference (Contract Termination, Q&A)

🔗 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipYOlZGrieQ

#NewJeans #Ador #Hybe

[red thorn]

TikkiTokki GOAT

[short laurel]

Meanwhile their fav suffering from overwork n fainting in tour

[split bramble]

choosing to stay locked in hybe basements until 2029 would have been sabotaging themselves, they absolutely made the right move regardless of which way court ultimately leans

if it dont go your way just keep appealing and taking years to build a big catalogue for yourselves

[brave stone]

Honestly don’t think hybe is gonna change their ways, it might even become worse

[jolly junco]

@modern fog pin this

[waxen musk]

TikkiTokki is crazy fast and it's so important everyone hears what these girls have to say in their own words. THANK YOU

[waxen musk]

As in new evidence to support their side... tbh everything they've been saying recently is just bringing up old stuff. They haven't had anything actually new to talk about for ages. If they did it would benefit them so much. I think they have nothing and it's all just bs talk.

[sage pilot]

Also, a big reason why so many HYBE maids are mad about NJ walking out is simply misogyny. NJ stood their ground, defended themselves, openly rebelled and left on their own terms. That’s all the qualities misogynists hate in women

[hoary frost]

Newjeans

[jolly junco]

We might as well call them jeanies for now since they cant promote under newjeans for a while

[craggy owl]

NewJeans should be doing promotions for NJ1 in US TV right now, instead we have this utter mess

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1862271308240732257?s=46

[narrow seal]

241128 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1862271308240732257
Article

November 29 2024

Bang Si-hyuk Pocketed 400 Billion Won: The Secret Behind HYBE’s IPO Four Years Ago

•Not disclosed during the IPO process.
•HYBE states, “Determined it was not a reportable matter.”

Jin-hyung Cho, Joon-ho Cha, and Seok-cheol Cho reporter

Link 👇

[split bramble]

armies spend so much time attacking innocent girls when their faves get paid pennies on the dollar cause of guys like him

[cerulean ermine]

soooo there possibly remove the photo shoot in Weverse? imm gonna save it all in gooogle drive... ifthat will happen

[neon igloo]

any updates by ador \ hybe?

[cerulean ermine]

like that?

[minor oar]

I think that the anti-artist/corporate worship culture of some of these haters is downright bizarre. I don't even understand it, like the attacking them for speaking up, calling them spoiled and stuff, this whole attitude of forced conformity or something and shaming someone who doesn't "behave"......I simply don't even understand where these people's heads are at. Like you are a K Pop fan because you worship oppressive corporations? Not because you enjoy the art/music? I feel like it's people who became severely misguided or something about why they even cared about the art form in the first place.

At any rate, I am cautiously optimistic after their press conference today. And I really do look forward to any work they do from here on out, because I will really look forward to supporting the artists and anything they release wholeheartedly knowing it is benefiting them.

[red thorn]

https://theqoo.net/square/3505573648 Ador full official letter

[rain spade]

they did prepare a whole 20+ pages 💀

[wind monolith]

ah hell nah

[red thorn]

I think it's the 1 hour before press con letter

[rain spade]

ain't no way they wrote that within 1 hour

[jolly junco]

Gonna just wait for juantokki or NJbubblegum for accurate translation

[opal zodiac]

havent read it but im also assuming thats what it is. haerin said yesterday they'd be releasing it around now

[tiny peak]

I also need TeamBunnies to dissect it

[jolly junco]

Did you even sleep? You’ve worked so fast for that presscon, thank you so much

[steel depot]

thank you for your hard work pls get some rest

[opal zodiac]

yup! i had a really good nap actually, and caffeine is my best friend

[jolly junco]

*x -c https://x.com/njbubblegum/status/1862287998844641711?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

. (@NJBUBBLEGUM) on X

According to the court's filing fee/service fee calculator, HYBE need to pay 2.2B KRW to the court to make their 620B KRW claim in cash.

HYBE's net profit for Q3 2024 was 1.4B KRW.

Twitter · Nov 29, 2024, 12:10 AM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1862287998844641711 does not contain any media!

[jolly junco]

[wind monolith]

and if they lose 2.2 B down the drain

[split bramble]

are hybe saying nj owes them 620b?

[steel depot]

[red thorn]

Bsh on kr economy newspaper front page

[jolly junco]

this woman 😭 really...

[waxen musk]

That Ador report is exactly as the girls described, shifting the blame to Hybe. Bloody useless people lol

99c what? Is this a scam?

[jolly junco]

if it was MHJ still as ADOR CEO, she would fight HYBE for this not just blaming them

[wheat raft]

any translations?

[wind monolith]

no its not is a shop in toronto but they sell out very vast last time the line was very long and i missed it

[waxen musk]

Only google translate so far.

[wind monolith]

im going there VERY early shop opens at 12

[wheat raft]

exactly

[steel depot]

"Free as a bird
It's the next best thing to be
Free as a bird
Home, home and dry
Like a homing bird, I fly
As a bird on wings"

i love this song

[waxen musk]

Hybe replaces everyone in charge at Ador with Hybe employees. Ador does bad. Ador blames Hybe to shift blame.
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

[jolly junco]

what a good morning in Seoul today

[waxen musk]

I know it's early but it's the first time in a while I've seen the stocks actually getting affected very clearly due to the actions

[jolly junco]

of course, they're about to lose BILLIONS in terms of newjeans brand

[split bramble]

the stock fraud news look pretty serious, very unethical and illegal in all stock exchanges

[waxen musk]

How low can it go!

[split bramble]

textbook case of 'pump and dump'

[wheat raft]

looks ugly

[jolly junco]

https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20241125050073

[wheat raft]

that would be slavery yes

[jolly junco]

please remind me to ask @modern fog to pin that when he wakes up

[wheat raft]

i just had a realization that hybe/stans might be investors too

this meant that they have incentive to protect the company as well

[tawdry vessel]

blame hyebe then.. nj and mhj wanted to stay

all they had to do was to put mhj back to her ceo position

[wheat raft]

yeh but if they blame hybe it makes their stocks worse

so just thinking that may be 1 reason for their toxic behavior lols

[jolly junco]

man i love your positive brain, still able to find something positive out of this toxic people who only hate newjeans regardless of the reaons

[wheat raft]

im pretty sure the latter is the majority tbh

just sometimes you'd think you'll need some sort of motivation to spout all the evil stuff

[lofty compass]

What nj gonna do

[potent lichen]

Yoooo thanks for posting this, I’m gonna get

[wind monolith]

imma be there before u

[potent lichen]

I’m gonna camp outside the store

[wind monolith]

no one beating me for this,last time i spend 3 hours to get nothing

this time im leaving way way way early

im gatekeeping it now whoever saw it saw it

[potent lichen]

I already follow and go to that store regularly

[wind monolith]

what time u getting there

hopefully they have a couple cuz last time i think they had like 1 or 2 only

[potent lichen]

My fellow Torontonian.

[jolly junco]

please talk about merch in #nj-collection

[wind monolith]

mb

[hoary frost]

that clause in their contract abt termination is that an industry standard? cuz if not respect to MHJ for giving the girls a fair contract

MHJ is so confident that she wont harm the girls in any shape and form 🥹

[jolly junco]

Through the morning article, I came across the full text of the certified mail in response to the 'Request for Correction of Violation of Exclusive Contract' sent by Adore Co., Ltd. to New Jeans on November 29th.

I question whether you have any intention to comply with the corrective action request, as you sent a reply to the certified mail dated November 13, 2024, with the date set for arrival being November 29, the day after the deadline stated in the certified mail.

Early in the document, Adore stated:
“Adore and all of its executives and staff have been doing their best in every way, both materially and spiritually, to support the entertainment activities of New Jeans, which is Adore’s precious IP and pride, and as a result, New Jeans has been able to grow into a top-level team both domestically and internationally in a short period of time.”

These achievements were made possible by the management of former CEO Min Hee-jin and the executive directors at the time, not by Kim Joo-young, who took office as CEO in the past three months, or the new executive directors of Adore, who are all close to Hive.

Even if you are aware of this dazzling achievement, why did you dismiss former CEO Min Hee-jin? Also, why are you ignoring Newjins’ request to ‘reinstate former CEO Min Hee-jin as CEO’? It is truly regrettable that there is no explanation for this anywhere in the certified mail.

In addition, Adore did not take any action against Belief Lab’s statement that the artist was lying, which tarnished the artist’s reputation. New Jeans and the parents requested that Adore publish a statement refuting this, but Adore refused the request, citing “ongoing disputes.”
Are you saying that it is beyond the scope of Adore's authority to ask a third-party label to post a statement refuting claims that their artist is "lying"? How does that act damage the artist's reputation? If so, why did you post a statement refuting Belief Lab's statement on November 27?

The certified mail sent by Adore is full of such absurd content that it is painful to refute each and every one of them. This is especially true of the parts related to legal action.
Adore claims that he requested an external law firm to review the possibility of defamation due to Belief Lab’s statement, but received an opinion that “it is difficult to accept.” Which law firm commissioned this review?

Tim Bernie’s has been in contact with several law firms in recent weeks to seek legal advice on the possibility of defamation in Belief Lab’s statement, and many of them have responded that “it is quite possible to sue for defamation.” Accordingly, Tim Bernie’s is preparing to file a third-party complaint in the future.

The excuse that “it is difficult to protest because they are another label and a third party” is also difficult to accept. In the injunction decision last May, the court ruled that “the creditor (Min Hee-jin) sent an email to HYBE raising issues such as similarity to another label, which was an act of fulfilling the duty of good faith that she had with New Jeans.”
Why can't Adore do what former CEO Min Hee-jin did? Since then, you've been relying on the former CEO, saying things like "former CEO Min Hee-jin didn't produce" and "former CEO Min Hee-jin didn't share the data," so it's only clearer that this organization can't do anything without CEO Min Hee-jin. But the reason why former CEO Min was fired only makes me wonder more.

Director Shin Woo-seok's explanation regarding the lawsuit is so contradictory to Adore's own claims that it is impossible not to laugh.
Adore stated, “According to the exclusive contract, Adore must take ‘necessary measures to exclude any infringement or interference by a third party with the artist’s entertainment activities’ (Article 5, Paragraph 4), and in particular, if a third party infringes on Adore’s copyrights, etc., Adore may ‘take measures to exclude such infringement at its own responsibility and expense (Article 11).”

Based on these clauses, you filed a lawsuit against Director Shin Woo-seok, even though New Jeans, the portrait rights holder, did not want to, but why did you not file a lawsuit against the Dispatch video and photo materials that New Jeans strongly opposed? According to Adore's logic, it seems that you have nothing to say even if you consider this as a violation of Article 5, Clause 4 of the exclusive contract.

Besides this, I feel tired and don't know where to start pointing out things when I see you only following Hive's claims while ignoring the materials acknowledged in the state audit and injunction decision.
I feel like I'm filling in for Adore's in-house lawyer role for free, so I'll end here.

Team Bunnies

[wind monolith]

team bunnies THE GOAT

[hoary frost]

BanHeesoo Entertainment coming soon

[jolly junco]

even Team Bunnies have a better understanding regarding these matters than the so called professional executives of HYBE and ADOR

[runic knoll]

how much time left until the girls reveals the email to public?

[jolly junco]

it been released

[steel depot]

just waiting for someone to translate it accurately

[jolly junco]

but no one has translated the full email, but so far the google translate give you a good view about the whole case from that email

[hoary frost]

nooticing 🤔🕊️🕊️🕊️

[vague shore]

1 day after deadline haha You cant even make this stuff up

[severe crater]

NJ and Gidle gonna both join another new or exisiting company, whos that company is the question

[sage pilot]

maybe she’s hinting at her own label’s new name 🧐

[jolly junco]

we are only discussing NJ in this thread, but you can discuss about gidle in #kpop-chat

[sage pilot]

or new NJ name. maybe she’s cooking something based on different symbols of freedom

[severe crater]

The NewJeans

[jolly junco]

LMAO everyone are hoping it means to something but here i am thinking she's just flaunting her freedom from that evil company, her and the girls freedom

[wind monolith]

same i thinks its just about freedom

[jolly junco]

@modern fog help pin this please? so we can just send people who keep asking the same question to pinned messages

[sage pilot]

maybe but with mhj, i think she likes to give easter eggs. she posted 5 flowers specifically during nj’s pre-debut, and the pics were arranged in order of blooming. if she posts smth about birds again, it will be a confirmation for me lol

[onyx hearth]

Guys WTH ppl saying newjeans new name is “HiWish”

[wind monolith]

its fake

[hoary frost]

not again 😭

[onyx hearth]

Thank god that name is so buns☠️

[hoary frost]

hiwish sounds like a rhythm game name

[onyx hearth]

Real 😭🙏

[tired ingot]

newskirt the only right choice

[twin cypress]

denim>

[wind monolith]

is this in the email??? ador lying there ass of with this

[twin cypress]

well too bad so sad for ador boo hoo

[wind monolith]

no money for fraudor

[jolly junco]

i dont read anything about this on the email they published this morning. where did you get this?

[twin cypress]

even if this is the case they still breached newjeans trust by not stopping belift and hybe from doing dumb shizz and slandering the girls

[wind monolith]

hmm ok then its prbly misinfo

[ripe mango]

Too bad nj dont have a slave contract so they free as of today alr since there is an exit clause in the contract

Bye ador

[sage pilot]

https://n.news.naver.com/article/001/0015074920?sid=103

[twin cypress]

newjeans should ask jasontheween if he knows someone who can set up some phoning type discord server for the girls to speak in it but where only they can type in the chat and speak in the channels if they want to

[jolly junco]

they dont need to ask jason about that, even our mod jhin can set a discord like that, easy peasy

[jolly junco]

oh this is new

but its not stated on the email itself, its what the reporter written not quoted from the email

[twin cypress]

yea but do they know who jhin even is 😂 . i just say jason because they are cool with him already and since he is a streamer he has people who know how to set that up

[sage pilot]

yeah it’s just some stuff ADOR had to lie real quick about to paint themselves as victims

[twin cypress]

what are the odds the girls are in this discord 👁️

[wind monolith]

i really doubt they are this discord server feels like a mess sometimes

[cosmic belfry]

Hi Hanni

[wheat raft]

i used to think its possible but nah most likely not

[hoary frost]

hi im bernice im still stuck in floor 16

[valid sierra]

all these plans were originally OG ADOR ideas and we couldve gotten earlier if only hybe didnt meddle

[hoary frost]

minji enters the server only to see multiple minji pfp user being clinically insane

[twin cypress]

i also doubt the girls would want to potentially release more of their music under hybe if it means potentially losing the rights to it

[twin cypress]

oh like mel hehehehe

[valid sierra]

the surprise korea fan meet
full album at 4th quarter
tour at the start of 2025
album and tour announced wayyy earlier this year. who are they trying to trick with these media plays

[sage pilot]

full album with no assigned producer yet, mind you

[vague shore]

They’re just throwing things around

[hoary frost]

🕯NJ1 surprise drop in January 1🕯

ik its impossible but imagine

[valid sierra]

im also surprised how hybe is not learning at all. like the members were always firm about their words. Hybe only take actions when its already at worst condition, acting like the members wouldnt go this far and terminate their contracts

[sage pilot]

https://www.news1.kr/entertain/celebrity-topic/5615573

[wind monolith]

Adore CEO Kim Joo-young: "I want to talk directly with New Jeans... I'd be happy if Min Hee-jin came back"

This being the title caught me off guard

[jolly junco]

IMO its because HYBE just want to buy time and waste newjeans time. Because by time the public will gradually lose interest and forget about everything newjeans related

i guess its their ultimate missions

[sage pilot]

For the past 14 days, Adore members have been in a state of great frustration and sadness."

It is very unfortunate that (Min) Hee-jin notified us a week ago that she would not be able to work with Adore and New Jeans members, but our situation is too urgent to allow us to be disappointed. Although it was a short week, we looked back on the fun times we had with the members and reviewed a lineup of domestic and international producers who can bring out the members' potential. Overall, things are moving in a positive direction."

you can’t make this shit up

[wind monolith]

WE LOOKED BACK AT THE FUN TIMES WITH MEMBERS BITCH U WERE NEVER THERE

[sage pilot]

CEO Kim also said, "Of course, our hearts are still open, so if Heejin changes her mind and returns to Adore to become the producer of New Jeans, it would be great.

girl……

[wind monolith]

if u want mhj leave the ceo position

[jolly junco]

we want the CEO position, not director

[acoustic valve]

that was always hybe's strategy, hence why the girls decided to just unilaterally terminate contract and let hybe try to sue them instead of going the path of lower risk; filling for an injunction which will take a long time to settle, they would be stuck in limbo without being able to continue working during this period.

[jolly junco]

why do i feel like they are making a drama script instead of addressing the real problem 😭

[vague shore]

The NJ members were in the training room even yesterday You haven’t even met them in person where were you?

[jolly junco]

Lee ju young: "I'm still new about this ADOR thing, and dont know about their schedule well. Please give me time to prove that i can make things better in ADOR"

i'm just joking, this is my sarcasm to her testimony in NA

[valid sierra]

why is it that the ceo of a label with only 1 group doesnt know its schedule???? she is an HR CHIEF on top of that

[jolly junco]

i'm joking 😭 she never said that

[sage pilot]

What’s most annoying KJY already played her “innocent” role at the NA and still she did nothing but prove she’s BSH’s lapdog. Now she’s doubling down on it

[vague shore]

No wonder the members are saying it’s a waste of time

[lucid yarrow]

she getting payed doing nothing great job though....

[wind monolith]

so basically nj next step is to face the lawsuit from ador/hybe (if ador decides to which is likely) am i correct???

[sage pilot]

Also requesting to meet them face to face… so she could cry again in front of them or what

[jolly junco]

yes, and fulfill their scheduled job before they can fully depart and make their own music

[short laurel]

Isn't sge getting perjury?

[boreal laurel]

request face to face so she can try to harrass and fear monger them into non termination

her role as a ceo is purely as a puppet to take down newjeans

it was never her intention to work for the girls

[twin cypress]

She ain’t ever getting another ceo position lol. Good riddance

[boreal laurel]

nah types like her usually fail upwards

[steel depot]

woman ended her career by becoming ador ceo xD i don't wish her a good retirement...

[short laurel]

fake Ador has no right to say they not have enough time. They had 3 months, they did nothing. Nj requested them to fix things 2 months ago, n still nothing. Now they get 2 weeks official notice n now they demanding more time

[jolly junco]

they demand 5 years time to fix things

[short laurel]

Old ador planned nj future with the girls, fake ador saying they planned it without them. It's different from usual n not inline with artists at all.

[jolly junco]

if they want to tossed them in the dungeon just said so, you dont need to give an evasive and nondirect answer like that everytime NJ speak up

[short laurel]

Also fake ador didn't explained yet why korean fan meeting n nj1 was cancelled

[hoary frost]

bcuz of the grass 🤡

[jolly junco]

*x -c https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1862331783368646844

[harsh dove]

@PoppyKPoppie <t:1732849472:d>

Clarification Regarding Rumors or Reports from HYBE

This announcement is a clarification regarding the reports published on November 29, 2024, in outlets such as Seoul Economic Daily about "NewJeans eventually leaving Ador" and the termination of their exclusive contract.

Our subsidiary, Ador Co., Ltd., has received a notice from its affiliated artist, NewJeans, on November 29, 2024, regarding their intention to terminate the exclusive contract.

We will respond appropriately to this contract termination notice, and will make a public announcement as soon as the decision regarding the contract termination is finalized.

[short laurel]

They cancelled what artists were preparing from out of nowhere, replaced everyone girls worked with, n now they made plans without including artists. Are artists just puppets to them? Do they have no rights to discuss their own future? N how did they planned for next year when they not even have a producer yet.

[jolly junco]

cant wait for another lie to spill from HYBE

[wind monolith]

they trying very hard to find loopholes

[runic knoll]

shitty BS Announcement incoming from ADOR and Hybe

[wind monolith]

these coming weeks months r gonna be long

[valid sierra]

i dont think they can. the members are really doing it process by process according to law. like the 14days notice/grace period for ADOR to resolve issues, this public notice of terminating the contract and many more. theyve been doing it all under the lawful process

[runic knoll]

NewJeans and MHJ processing their legal document to the government about ADOR and Hybe legally while also giving both agency companies 14 days

ADOR/HYBE: you can't do that without our consent.

[sage pilot]

https://n.news.naver.com/article/366/0001035977?sid=101

[sage pilot]

“New Jeans Press Conference, Private Equity Funds and Other Corporations Sold in Advance... Hive Ants Get Hit in the Back of the Head Again”

i like the title

[runic knoll]

"On the 29th, HYBE's stock price fell below 200,000 won for the first time in 10 trading days."

man, i love this article especially just from the first sentence itself 🤣

[short laurel]

Hybe p/e ratio still hidden

[polar owl]

Let them go bankrupt

[hoary frost]

🙋i shorted hybe

[polar owl]

Will do the same. Let's earn money.

[steel depot]

i hope the big asshole in LA doesn't mind going broke

[hoary frost]

Gotta make that money purse

gotta a fur coat so i make it purr

[stiff prairie]

yoo daily dose of media play started yet?

[boreal laurel]

hybe bouta get desperate and pull a bbc and start accusing the members of bullying

"haerin drop kicked the illit manager"

[hoary frost]

Thisnis funny asf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948917132459130940/1311899397759565854/ijbol.gif

[short laurel]

The manager scared of the cat

Remember not to play rhythm hive. That game supports hybe

[vague shore]

NJ has released an official statement https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/609/0000926884 Basically saying now they're free

[stiff prairie]

haerin slayed yesterday. came w no ipads no computer nothing. just knew what she wanna say and cooked

[stiff prairie]

it doesn't need anyone's approval tho. think of it like how hybe was able to dismiss mhj saying she breached contract. she had to file temp injuction and has to go thru main trial to prove she didn't breach contract. now the girls unilaterally dismissed their contract saying hybe breached it so hybe has to do temp injuction and main trial and win to prove otherwise

[stiff prairie]

off topic are you haerinhaerin?

[jolly junco]

Bah i hate using discord on mobile phone, how do i open the pinned message on this thread 😭

[hoary frost]

I never knew u cld

[stiff prairie]

ik tap on settings from thread

[jolly junco]

OMG you’re life saver thank you

[stiff prairie]

i figured out a few days ago too lmao

[short laurel]

Dam ty cake.

[stiff prairie]

[jolly junco]

*x -c https://x.com/poppykpoppie/status/1862355595430699208?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

[harsh dove]

@PoppyKPoppie <t:1732855149:d>

NEWJEANS OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM NEWSEN
11.29.24 |🔗https://www.newsen.com/news_view.php?uid=202411291304396710

Official Statement from the Five Members of NewJeans.

Hello, this is Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein.

As of November 29, 2024, the five of us are terminating our exclusive contract with Ador, and we will continue our activities freely, independent of HYBE and Ador.

Ador is the agency with which we signed our exclusive contract, and as our agency, it has the duty to manage our careers in good faith and in our best interests. On November 13, 2024, we sent Ador a final demand for correction regarding breaches of their obligations. However, the 14-day period for correction has passed, and Ador has refused to make any corrections, leaving all of our concerns unresolved.

Over the past few months, we have made multiple requests to Ador for corrections. Yet, Ador has responded only with avoidance and excuses. We want to make it clear that genuine communication, based on mutual respect, has not been achieved due to Ador's actions.

In our demands for correction, we specifically requested actions from Ador, but even after business hours, they failed to take any steps toward resolving the issues. Given the remaining period for correction, it became physically impossible for them to make the required changes. Therefore, our urgent press conference yesterday was a direct result of this, and the claim that we did not wait for Ador's response is nothing but a semantic argument.

We are notifying Ador of our decision to terminate the contract, due to their failure to fulfill their contractual obligations and failure to make corrections within the designated period. This termination notice is in accordance with the exclusive contract, and all five of us have personally signed the document. The notice was delivered to Ador on November 29, 2024, and the termination takes effect immediately upon re

[jolly junco]

It is official now

[stiff prairie]

we still haven't got the email they were supposed to show us yet right?

[hoary frost]

Its out but not translated lropelry yet

[hushed whale]

ye its like 20 pages

[stiff prairie]

20 pages damn. wth they yapping about

[hoary frost]

Guilttripping njs

[jolly junco]

Whatever statement coming out of ADOR/HYBE in the next few hours, do not believe it. The girls have done things properly with their legal counsels, they are not breaching any contract by terminating the contract one sided. On the other side, ADOR is the one who should sue Newjeans and proof their case why NJ cant just terminate their contract like that. The burden of proof will fall in ADOR’s hand, not newjeans

[short laurel]

Same old bs. Nothing new

[jolly junco]

Shifting blaming to HYBE, saying its not their fault but HYBE fault

[stiff prairie]

but ador is the one to get mhj fired that delayed all their works not hybe technically

[jolly junco]

They blame it on the BOD, not HYBE management

[sonic olive]

Why i think that nj terminated contracts is still not approved yet??

[wind monolith]

it is it was in their contract

[stiff prairie]

management can't take out BOD. what's their point it's still their shortcoming

[jolly junco]

It is. Legally speaking its effective immediately. Just like when HYBE terminating MHJ shareholder agreement, MHJ have to file for injuction to stop that. In this case, HYBE has to file for injuction to halt the termination

[sonic olive]

What is bod ?

[short laurel]

If company can unilaterally terminate contracts then so can artists since it's supposed to be equal partnership.

[stiff prairie]

board of directiors ie executives. the ones that has final says in company stuff

[jolly junco]

You can check pinned messages on this thread for in depth explanation on this matter

[short laurel]

Provided they have good enough reason for it n nj has it.

[sonic olive]

Oh like they are not in hybe/ador but they still using their ip ?

[jolly junco]

They cant use Newjeans IP now

[stiff prairie]

they won't be able to do so anymore

[jolly junco]

They are just fulfilling their obligations that they signed before 29th

[vague shore]

NJ don’t need approval at worst, they’re free until ADOR files for an injunction and gets a ruling in their favor

[short laurel]

Nope. They can't use the ip anymore outside the ongoing agreed schedules that girls still going too

[sonic olive]

So that means all newjeans members just wait until ador and hybe file an injunction ?

[jolly junco]

Yes, IF ador and hybe wants to

[short laurel]

Nj are free to make more music outside hybe ador

[jolly junco]

Because if they do, the burden of proof falls on ADOR/HYBE

Failed to prove such case will just backfired on their management

[sonic olive]

Idk bro i seems many ppl says that ni doing the contract thing wrong

[jolly junco]

That many ppl are not lawyers, so who do you want to believe? Nj legal teams or the so called “many ppl”

[wind monolith]

where u seeing this?

[sonic olive]

Indonesian fanpage 😔

[short laurel]

No one knows what nj contract is. No one, not even lawyers are qualified to comment on this without looking at nj contract. All we can do is trust nj n their lawyers.

[jolly junco]

Dont make me laugh

[wind monolith]

they aint lawyers

[stiff prairie]

ask them if hybe was wrong when they unilaterally terminated mhj's contract issuing unproven breaches.

[wind monolith]

https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1862205640216571995

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

Article 15 (Termination or Cancellation of the Contract)

https://t.co/bzfE2CuAt1 the event that either the “Agency” or the “Artist” breaches the terms of this contract, the non-breaching party shall first demand the breaching party to rectify the breach within a grace period of

Twitter · Nov 28, 2024, 6:43 PM

[jolly junco]

Give me that meme gif on spreading misinfo

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[vague shore]

Just remember, the girls are confident, and that’s all that matters

[short laurel]

They just used to artists not speaking up. What nj did is unprecedented n so no one knows how it'll play out. Kpop stans have seen no presedence of this so they think it's wrong which is wrong mindset

[sonic olive]

So its a win win situation right ? For nj . If hybe/ador want to stop the termination they need to file an injunction to court and need to proof it . But nj can counter it with soo many proof that hybe/ador breach it first . Am i right ?

[jolly junco]

Yes 💯

[short laurel]

Yes

[wind monolith]

yep

[sonic olive]

Is this a REAL one of the newjeans contracts ???

[jolly junco]

Hold the fortress gangs, i’m gonna go touch some grass

Dont kill each other 🫡

[ashen glade]

guys can I just get a lil brief of what happened
nj are not disbanding RIGHTTTTTTT

[short laurel]

Yea part leaks of their contract but as i said, we not have full contract nj signed.

[wind monolith]

yex we only have parts not full thing

[sonic olive]

I saw one vid that another fandom says that newjeans terminated their contract through the press conference

[ashen glade]

so like what exactly is going on

[short laurel]

Yea last night.

Nj submitted official termination notice to ador today morning.

[sonic olive]

Before they going to japan ?

[short laurel]

Yup.

[sonic olive]

Wdym is the fornite collab will still run ?

[short laurel]

If it's agreed upon previously then yes.

[ashen glade]

what is that ?
like what happens now ?

[sonic olive]

Btw how did the contract leak ? Who is the guy who leaked this ?

[short laurel]

Girls will follow all the schedules they agreed on be4 termination.

[short laurel]

Nj are still together as 5 just not under name newjeans n they can go to any agency they want.

[sonic olive]

So the content that scheduled and pre recorded will released until it’s run out right ?

[short laurel]

Yes

[frozen bronze]

that seems to be about contracts in general, not necessarily out of their contract specifically

[stiff prairie]

Think it'll depend on hybe. The girls probably gave the permission to use their likeness but it's newjeans collab which is held by hybe so hybe can sabotage it saying the girls aren't associated w newjeans ip so it can't go thru. imo

[ashen glade]

so they don't have anything to do with hybe and ador anymore
they are unemployed
not even have the name of newjeans ?
just a group of friends?

[frozen bronze]

if a group is only a group because they are under a company to you then sure

[sonic olive]

Istg there is 0 ZERO article about this OFFICIAL newjeans contract thing

[short laurel]

There are many

[ashen glade]

ahhh
so they really gone gone 😔

[frozen bronze]

people are just speculating

[frozen bronze]

have you read anything they have said in the past 2 days?

[wind monolith]

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2024/11/industry-insiders-give-their-insight-on-newjeans-contract-termination-with-ador this talks about one of the clauses in their contracts

[short laurel]

Girls said the will comeback. It's just rebranding

[ashen glade]

like no more newjeans songs but
we can still get the girls song right ?

[stiff prairie]

Be patient they just terminated today. It'll take time but we'll get music and stuff soon

[short laurel]

Yea

[sonic olive]

I mean in the indonesian fanpage

[ashen glade]

nooooo
that's why I'm asking
there isn't really a summary either
I'm busy with work in another country
and I'm sad that I'm just knowing about it 🤧😔

[short laurel]

Many nj fanpages are hybe stans so idk which one u are in.

[frozen bronze]

at least watch their press conference from today

[wind monolith]

read pin

[ashen glade]

yt ?

[frozen bronze]

https://youtu.be/vF1dBPH4N2U

[short laurel]

#subbed-media latest msg

[frozen bronze]

^ tikkitokki is probably better my bad

[ashen glade]

thanks for sending guys
preciate it

[tardy smelt]

you don't really need to worry. the gist of it is, they're free to do whatever they want now. they currently want to honour their set schedules. they can make music again. they want to stick together. they'll always be newjeans even if not in name.

[wind monolith]

~t https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1862349379145015583

[narrow seal]

241129 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1862349379145015583
ijbol. there's probably only 3 ppl left in ador. kim joo-young, that linkedin bitch and that other insignificant director. so who said this??

[sonic olive]

Wait fr ? U lie

[wind monolith]

its just funny

[ashen glade]

but music wise ?
will it still have the nj concept

[rain spade]

just let them go for real

[hoary frost]

LOL

[sonic olive]

For sure the new fandom name will be tokkis

[wind monolith]

the fandom name is not patented so we they can still keep it

[tardy smelt]

nothing's stopping them from working with mhj and their producers and directors again

[ashen glade]

no more phoning?

[sonic olive]

Wait fr ?

[wind monolith]

yes newjeans, songs those are patented but a fandom name cant be patented

[tardy smelt]

phoning is dead, yeah (still mourning it)

[sonic olive]

I think yea but im not uninstalling that apps

[hoary frost]

New Jeans is patented Newjeans is not patented

[sonic olive]

Too many memories

[tardy smelt]

fr.

[sonic olive]

What if they removed the apps from apps store/play store ?

U guys can’t download it back so it’s completely gone

[tardy smelt]

probably will, i'm keeping it forever

[sonic olive]

Thats why im keeping it in my phone

[short laurel]

No. it's members who stop using it since they no longer under ador

[half thicket]

Any new news yet guy

[wind monolith]

other than an offical statement from newjeans ending their contract no

[hoary frost]

so if they are officially not from ador/hybe anymore that just mean they don’t need to go the building anymoe right how bt their managers are they 3rd party too?

[short laurel]

Ador staff already said they leaving too.

It's just hybe's puppet remaining now

Though i wonder who will be the staff going to japan with nj today.

[hoary frost]

kinda felt bad and grateful tho cuz i know some of them are still regular employees and losing a stable job is kinda hard

[wind monolith]

i did see i think hanni manager and john wick in the aiport stream idk tho

[tardy smelt]

i saw their managers and the supernatural team

[short laurel]

Ohk.

[hoary frost]

i mean the managers and dancers might just be freelancers im saying ador employees

[short laurel]

Core staff that nj friends with said they leaving too. Rest not sure. Probably not. According to news week ago

[wet sluice]

okay i know im kinda late but what is hiwish

[tardy smelt]

man i love the og staff, loyal asf to a group that technically doesn't exist anymore

[wind monolith]

fake

[wet sluice]

knew it

[hoary frost]

are they still using newjeans for their scheduled appearances?

[wind monolith]

yes but after their scheduled appearances r done they wont

[jolly junco]

1. The girls will fulfill all the schedule they have signed before Nov 29th

2. any new job offer after nov 29th the girls wont sign under Newjeans name. they will go with the new management

[hoary frost]

whats the last one?

[wind monolith]

i think its the 29th

countdown Japan 24/25 is the last thing on phoning

[jolly junco]

no one knows, they might have another schedule for januari for all we know

[wind monolith]

thats true

[mild spade]

Hybe shares plunge 6.97% losing $423 million on Friday after NewJeans decides to part ways.

[frank musk]

I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN

[jolly junco]

i think they will go down even more if HYBE decides to pursue legal action against newjeans, knowing they will lose

[frank musk]

HYBE DOWNFALL COMING NEXT MONTH

[twin cypress]

It’ll fall more after it’s officially official

[jolly junco]

it is official, since this morning they have submitted their legal notice to ADOR

[frank musk]

Yep

[rain spade]

to ador is not official

[jolly junco]

LMAO they can refute until they vomit blood, it is legally accepted from Newjeans stand point of view

even the court can help ADOR unless they file for injuction

[acoustic valve]

The girls terminated their contract with Ador the exact same way Hybe terminated their contract with MHJ. Good for the goose good for the gander

[jolly junco]

it is exactly the same way when HYBE unilaterally terminated MHJ shareholder agreement

[jolly junco]

right. they are just doing exactly what HYBE did to MHJ

karma works in newjeans way and it taste way better

[silver warren]

Wait do we not stream the official nj Spotify anymore? I’m confused

[wind monolith]

i just have all the songs downloaded

[jolly junco]

i'm not, if i want to listen to NJ song i'll just use my local file instead

[acoustic valve]

still stream on spotify if you enjoy it. Just maybe hold off on buying merch n stuff, hold back to support the girls with their future work

[mild spade]

the girls should still get royalties from the music. usually in the 20% to 50% depending on their contract.

[jolly junco]

this is so sad, their merch are one of a kind. i pre ordered some and keep thinking i need to buy some more but this happened

[cosmic belfry]

Nothing wrong with streaming on Spotify. It will still support the members as far as stats go and songwriters/producers should have rev share.

[acoustic valve]

yeah, doubt the girls were getting much for spotify streams before anyway, and they should still be getting some even now due to songwriting royalties. All in all it matters very little. Use spotify if you enjoy it, don't bother if you don't

[jolly junco]

credits to @Cato_o_o

[twin cypress]

Yea but not really cause hybe can delay it by suing them and then it’ll be a long legal process

[tiny peak]

NewJeans are a team of all-rounders. Press conferences, labor law reform, contract terminations.

[acoustic valve]

true, they both chose to do it this way because the increased risk was worth not wasting any time being stuck in limbo during an injunction lawsuit. The difference is Hybe accepted the risk because they have more than enough money to make up for it. NJ accepted the extra risk because they knew they had a strong case

[twin cypress]

I’ll only consider it officially official when they sign with another label and can drop music freely without hybe able to do anything no more

[jolly junco]

they cant, it will only happens IF the court granted HYBE their injuction

[jolly junco]

they can literally do that now if HYBE dont file for injuction and if the court denied the injuction

[twin cypress]

Which is why it’s not officially official because it’s seeming that fraudor is going to fight to keep them just to be a headache

[ocean arch]

if they are doing activities without ador and hybe do they still have managers or bodyguards with them?

[wind monolith]

they did tdy while going to japan

[jolly junco]

"In this case, ADOR would have to take legal action against NewJeans, and the group can simply wait for that. At this point, no one can prevent NewJeans from becoming independent"

[ocean arch]

And where are they gonna do practices ?can their PDs still work with them?

[jolly junco]

meaning they literally CAN drop new music now, even after ADOR file for injuction. As long as the court havent granted them the injuction, Newjeans are FREE

[acoustic valve]

The girls are still completing their duties on contracts signed whilst still in Ador. So yeah they'll be working as usual as these the work from these contracts slowly fizzle out

[jolly junco]

if you remember back when HYBE unilaterally terminated MHJ shareholder agreement, the same thing happened to ADOR vs NJ now

[ocean arch]

You are right

What goes around comes around I guess

[tawdry vessel]

how the turntables

[ocean arch]

I know nj needs mhj but I don't want to loose blackq or yellz either

[tiny peak]

Hyein said music is coming! I trust Hyein, they have plans and will be busy

[wind monolith]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1862381918584746097

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

NewJeans Contract Termination Controversy: Legal Experts Say "ADOR Cannot Prevent Members' Independence"
https://t.co/Ce5VS5AwXh
Legal Analysis: "Contract termination notice likely valid; NewJeans' independence appears legally defensible."

Amid NewJeans' declaration to terminate

Twitter · Nov 29, 2024, 6:23 AM

https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1862384678587560294

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

Results of AI detection for the fake Ador email supposedly written by Bang Jooyoung 🤖
GPT Killer: 94.6%
GPT Plagiarism Detector Model: 86.2%
GPT4o: Around 70%
GPT4o Mini: 60–70%

Twitter · Nov 29, 2024, 6:34 AM

NAH LMFAO

[steel depot]

don't forget me.. joke 🤣 don't forget about jei kim

[shy schooner]

They will follow along with og staff

[steel depot]

and jerry

[tiny peak]

wb Bernice 😭

[mild spade]

they will have Bernadette in her place in future. ha ha.

[sage pilot]

I wonder if HYBE will file for an injunction right now or when NJ will sign with their new label to make it more difficult for them

[jolly junco]

less than an hour for bussiness hour in korea

[wind monolith]

we have always gotten stuff after its closed soooo

[jolly junco]

this morning they said they will make an official statement from HYBE, but its almost after works hour....

[wintry rose]

Bruh what is hiwish and why are people saying nwjns are now hiwish😭

[wind monolith]

fake

fan account

[wintry rose]

Saw a tiktok about it with 100k likes

[hoary frost]

cus tiktok is dumb and gullible

[stiff prairie]

Good thing about TikTok is you can say anything about anyone without any source and probably get away w any accountability

[jolly junco]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[wind monolith]

this guy is MOST STUPIDEST PERSON EVER

hybe incel and hes weird did some stupid ai chaewon thing

[valid sierra]

is it really hard to understand that their contracts are bilateral and any party who suffered damage may unilaterally terminate the contract as indicated in the contract?

also why do they care so much? yesterday they were begging them to leave, now they begging them to stay?? like make it make sense

[jolly junco]

anything HYBE do is considered legal, but when NJ did the same exact thing, they said its illegal

people dont care about who is right and who is wrong, they just want to see NJ suffers

[rain spade]

What if hybe/ador just let them leave 🤔 just my thoughts

Which I don't think will happen

[jolly junco]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[unborn jewel]

they got struck by the media literacy devil

[valid sierra]

the members never had a contradicting statements, while Hybe have been apologizing and exposing themselves this whole time.

[split bramble]

I was thinking something, NJ have shown honor in fulfilling the advertisement and other obligations made under ador, but who will receive payment for those ad appearances moving forward? ador or the girls?

[jolly junco]

payment should be done according to their contracts with the advertiser, which is NJ and ADOR

[hearty stone]

Biggest weirdo i stumbled upon

[split bramble]

ah so they wont really get paid for those, free money for those frauds at ador

[jolly junco]

well the contracts has been agreed upon before 29th, so yes of course ador will get the payment too

i just hope none of the brand deals is a long terms contracts with newjeans

they need to complete the obligations fast so they can easily plan their future

[valid sierra]

i think the advertisers may claim damages against ADOR since ADOR is the one in contract with them.

[unborn jewel]

hopefully includes fort in the schedule i been waiting since july 😭 🙏

so much has happened since then it doesnt feel that long ago but its been 5 months

[rain spade]

that's lots of brands claiming damages

[stiff prairie]

Tbh fort is the least likey to happen now. For other brand deals their faces might be more important than the newjeans name but for Fortnite it's mainly newjeans, their songs, choreos etc which are tied to the ip specifically

[sonic meadow]

New hair new TEAM (company)

[split bramble]

wish it could be leveraged somehow, like brands saying they'll drop the claims and wave penalties if the IP is transferred to the girls

[cerulean lake]

so i saw someone worry if anyone would wanna sign nj to their company now bc they might worry hybe might sue them? that’s not right if nj is technically independent right?

[stiff prairie]

Brands are very less likely to go that way since they have other hybe artists as ambassadors too so they need to keep a good relationship w hybe regardless

[cerulean lake]

well how about the brands that only nj have like apple, indomie, and more

[cosmic belfry]

There is some risk assessment a new company might make but I find it hard to believe they can hold a new compnay responsible if legally it's terminated rn.

[narrow seal]

241128 hurtsaz Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/hurtsaz/status/1862117466819940741
it’s funny how the people who wanted newjeans to leave hybe this entire time are the most upset about them actually leaving

[stiff prairie]

they are going to carry out their obligations before terminations. now hybe can say hey we don't want our ip newjeans to be associated w the girls so you can't advertise them by saying newjeans. companies can slyly not mention newjeans and only bring in the girls and use their likeness and all that comes w it or ask for damage repairment since they probably paid the company but can't use them for their advertisement to the fullest now. or they can say money went down the drain not call the girls for events or not post ads w their faces on which is also a possibility that i hope don't happen

[cerulean lake]

yeah if nwjns are technically free, then idk if hybe can go after a whole company they “might” sign with rather than just the girls themselves 🤔

[cerulean lake]

hmm danielle did thank the brands for supporting them through this whole ordeal so i hope it’s a graceful separation if they do not continue w the brands or the brands instead go after hybe and ask for compensation bc the contracts weren’t fulfilled till the end

[sweet pebble]

bro brands do not care about hybe

it doesnt help them promote

[cerulean lake]

i mean if the artists were supposed to bring in money to the brands due to advertisement wouldn’t that also be like a hit to the brands themselves? idk i remember discussing w someone here

of course the brands pay the artists but the artists themselves also bring in customers to the brands so there has to be some type of gain out of these contracts and i’m just wondering what’s gonna happen if one of the contracts is basically nullified at this point 🤷‍♀️

[sweet pebble]

i dont think any contract will be nullified

[paper light]

just saw this now

source: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/29/hybe-loses-over-420-million-in-value-after-newjeans-announces-contract-termination.html

[red thorn]

Shinhan Financial Group said that there is still time remaining on the contract and that nothing has been decided regarding whether to renew the contract.
A financial industry official said, "New Jeans' image is good, but from the advertiser's perspective, getting involved in a dispute can be risky," adding, "In reality, it seems like it will be difficult to renew the contract."
https://m.asiatime.co.kr/article/20241129500259

[stiff prairie]

personally i think fashion brands will keep working with them by using their own names and stuff. nj girls are very precious and loved by koreans not to. but the ones where newjeans name needs to be mentioned is more in crisis

[tiny peak]

NewJeans image is now one of authenticity and bravery which is highly desirable for corporations seeking "realness" ... gotta love late stage capitalism

[stiff prairie]

yeah it's gonna be like that until they have a new company and a new group name

[short laurel]

Mhj didn't step down from the ceo position. She was kicked out by hybe

[stiff prairie]

but how does hybe lose so much money w just ~5% drop in share i don't understand.

[short laurel]

Bang's corruption leaked around sane time hurt hybe alot.

About him making billions during hybe ipo

[stiff prairie]

smth new?

[lucid yarrow]

make believe money its just monopoly cash prediction/worth etc....

[split bramble]

the company is hugely overvalued

[stiff prairie]

he was under some investigation before that brought forward the news of him buying a mansion in US by hybe money he "forgot to disclose" but after that i didn't hear anything about that

[short laurel]

Once bts retire, it'll crash hard in value.

[short laurel]

Scroll on cato's twt. It's somewhere there

[stiff prairie]

will do later

[tired ingot]

nothing new?

[short laurel]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1862271308240732257

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

Article

November 29 2024

Bang Si-hyuk Pocketed 400 Billion Won: The Secret Behind HYBE’s IPO Four Years Ago

•Not disclosed during the IPO process.
•HYBE states, “Determined it was not a reportable matter.”

Jin-hyung Cho, Joon-ho Cha, and Seok-cheol Cho reporter

Link 👇

Twitter · Nov 28, 2024, 11:04 PM

[stiff prairie]

wow wtf did i just read lol. basically giving a f u to small investors while pocketing big for bsh and major investors

[short laurel]

timing of this news is really bad for hybe and i m enjoying it.

[stiff prairie]

sometimes i do wonder what their thought process is. but knowing these stuff financial crimes are best crimes to commit when you have money

[wind monolith]

Crazy how 3 groups have terminated in the past 2 dyas

[tiny peak]

wtf is going on? this is a weird dream

HYBE needs to be destroyed

[hoary frost]

lol newjeans long lost sister group is not renewing their contract hybe losing 2 insanely talented grps in a year shows just how dumb they are

[short laurel]

who 3 ?

[ocean arch]

I forgot her name

[stiff prairie]

fromis to join newjeans new company when they establish it. you heard it here first

[short laurel]

oo fromis exiting hybe?

[wind monolith]

I should have reworded that fromis contract ended and loossemble idk if it ended or terminated

[tiny peak]

“A company that no longer has any sincerity in the art of music, a company that only has thoughts about making money, and don’t have any conscience about the negative effect they create through their non-authentic means”

[hushed whale]

Ye not renewing their contract

[short laurel]

hybe's 2 most talented gg out is perfect. lol

fromis is so underrated and underutilized by hybe.

[tiny peak]

fromis faced so much adversity, proud of them no matter what

[ocean arch]

Can we call viviz too? lol hybe drop out gang

[hoary frost]

fr u know they got viral audios on tiktok till to this day

[short laurel]

why viviz and not full gfriend

[jolly junco]

LMAO

[ocean arch]

If they want to come back sure the more the merrier

[sage pilot]

wait why are we talking about renewal

[short laurel]

renewal with brands not hybe.

[lucid yarrow]

rem fromis_9 got put in the dungeon member complain they finally got cb and she needed apologizes lol f hybe management

[sage pilot]

idc about brands to be honest. they’ll be back as soon as nj will be back

[short laurel]

remember members learned about their cb from news.

[jolly junco]

this is going to be NJ future if they chose to stay in ADOR

[short laurel]

ok fromis will go out from hybe on 31st dec. they just annouced it a month early

[red thorn]

Yeah since there was topic of brands/advertisers contract
The article provide some perspective

[sage pilot]

freedom for fromis too

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1862429144237449385

[narrow seal]

241129 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1862429144237449385
(241129)
Hankyung
FSS Investigates HYBE for 'Capital Markets Act Violations'
Reporter Cho Jin-hyung, Kim Ik-hwan
https://njb-jj.notion.site/241129-Hankyung-FSS-Investigates-HYBE-for-Capital-Markets-Act-Violations-14d1279fe54e808396e1fbe724e53455?pvs=4

[jolly junco]

HYBE is getting nitpicking left right and center

[sage pilot]

our shaman is cooking hybe’s downfall at record speed

[cosmic belfry]

lol why is it hosted on notion? mirrored article?

okay i see the original link now

[unborn jewel]

wait i heard the news about loona leaving but fromis_9 too?

[mild mist]

Contract expiry

And you know there's no way they wanted to renew with pledis

[unborn jewel]

crazy how nj, loona, and fromis are all done with their companies on the same day 😭

[rain spade]

hybe deserved

[sonic olive]

Finally this kind of article came out

[sweet pebble]

what ts mean? theyre removing nj as their ambassador or no?

whoops i thought that was a brand

[jolly junco]

Org indo? Jgn gampang percaya fan acc di indo, byk banget yg nyamar jd bunnies cuman buat nyebar fake info. Kalo punya twitter follow @juantokki ato NJbubblegum aja

[tall dew]

Sharing of Weverse membership contents in other channels is not allowed. Clips/Screenshots are okay. However, membership content (exclusive pictures and full videos) can ONLY be shared in ⁠#bunnies-agents after verifying membership in ⁠⁠#bunnies-verification

[jolly junco]

Yes sorry, i just explained things to her/him about how there are alot of fake bunnies in indonesian fanpage and to be careful about that

[wheat raft]

https://x.com/njbubblegum/status/1862382778253541425?s=46&t=nArScn1nuDKKLyO-F5UGKg

very good read

. (@NJBUBBLEGUM) on X

(241129)
ILGAN SPORTS
NewJeans' Contract Termination Comes Back as a Boomerang to HYBE... Right Then, Wrong Now? [Jeon Hyung-hwa's Straight Pen]
Reporter Jeon Hyung-hwa
https://t.co/iCYHab5TNu

Twitter · Nov 29, 2024, 6:27 AM

[rain spade]

Actually good

[sweet pebble]

hybe's stock

forgot to include

look at the dip right when nov 29 started

[rain spade]

it recovered a bit

[sweet pebble]

ye its from the other hybe groups

[frank musk]

The thing i want to see

[frank musk]

Dw they will also be free soon just wait till the allegations start showing

[sweet pebble]

hybe now lost 671 million the news about hybe only showed the 6.97% loss which was outdated, now they have 11.07% loss

in 5-day chart

[frank musk]

HYBE DOWNFALL IS NEXT MONTH HOPE 🙏🙏🙏

[mild mist]

fromis' impact

[hoary frost]

FREEDOM FOR EVERYONE!!! (expect for that ugly mf bngpd whatever you call that thing)

[mild mist]

Mr "we have nothing specific to say to that person"

[rain spade]

where's thatt meme

[sonic meadow]

Hybe you never fail to fail

I think if bts also terminates their contract (in a few years idk) then yes hybe is back to being a small company

[frank musk]

Yeah def

[hoary frost]

damn they aint playin 😭

[lofty compass]

Sana prob gonna very happy if NewJeans join jyp

[short laurel]

bsh froud from 4 years ago with 2 gg leaving is good hard hit.

[rain spade]

https://imgur.com/a8aSdBw

[cyan rivet]

Named by minji

[steep torrent]

havent seen them for a while, wonder why they're private now

[orchid field]

because they got exposed for being a purple color fan account that managed to rebrand as a translation account.

there were so many screenshots of them dissing blackpink

[wheat raft]

these twitter accounts either ran by kids or old hags there is no in between

[elfin pewter]

https://x.com/cakedegg/status/1862348607233413569?s=46

what did I just read

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

😂😂😂

Twitter · Nov 29, 2024, 4:11 AM

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/yuijeans/status/1862511636147577193

[narrow seal]

241129 yuijeans Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/yuijeans/status/1862511636147577193
I'm Yui, Ph.D in Karmatology.

I'll explain how Karma works.

Tried to manipulate the public = killed by the public
Dismissed the CEO = begs CEO back
Unilaterally terminated shareholder's contract = NJ terminates contract unilaterally
Accused MHJ of embezzlement = BSH caught

[jolly junco]

IJBOL 😭

[onyx hearth]

Without bts they’re nothing

[orchid field]

🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅

[sonic meadow]

Agreed and their losing stocks while also losing 2 gg in 1 day

[onyx hearth]

Yikes man

I wonder why loosemble disbanded (I’ll do research 🤫)

[sonic meadow]

What’s even crazier that bang PD even forgot bts taehyungs name 1 time

[sonic meadow]

They will lose their 76 million subs easily

[onyx hearth]

Real😭

[sonic meadow]

Now 3 groups are disbanding truly embarrassing for hybe

[hoary frost]

Wait what omg

[sonic meadow]

Lossemble also disbanding

[onyx hearth]

The Kpop industry is going downhill

[hoary frost]

https://tenor.com/view/drop-to-knees-distortion-fall-distorted-content-aware-scale-gif-24762512

Y'all i-

[onyx hearth]

Fromis_9 also disbanding if yall know them

[hearty stone]

YOOO WHAT

[hearty stone]

HUHHHHHHH

[dawn umbra]

what's going on with kpop girls

[onyx hearth]

Newjeans is our only hope

They will have a comeback trust

[hearty stone]

i...

3 of my fav artists

[pine jewel]

fr

[short laurel]

exposed? it was already known for years.

[sleek crest]

[pulsar wasp]

did their contract expire?

[pulsar wasp]

what was BSH caught doing?

[modern fog]

open the tweet

[bronze jetty]

yes they’re letting it expire instead of renewing

[stable escarp]

Has the ador 26pg response been translated?

Or atleast important parts been translated

[heady gate]

NewHope

[flint stone]

What is this?
They thought that can do whatever they want and then just say mhj work with us again?

[red thorn]

It's cosplay hybe as ador with gesture that implying adore is not one body with hybe

[pastel umbra]

where’s the og statement? i only saw the hanni “apology” on the ador twitter

[short lynx]

Funny how they suddenly care when the money drops

[steel depot]

because that's what's important to them 'money'

[young wyvern]

so did they actually file to terminate or...

because as it stands now this doesn't make sense. how can the continue their group activities if theyre terminating their contract (also potentially losing their name in which their advertising as?) someone fill me in

[wind monolith]

It is possible they r doing all scheduled activities that were handed to them by the 29th

If they dont there could be chances ador says u breached the contract

[young wyvern]

that would make sense

[cosmic belfry]

They're going a route that's stated in their contract that they can terminate. They don't need to file anything. The 14 days and press conference was all they needed. It's unconventional but it's on ADOR to challenge it. Even if they do, they can be independent.

Continuing activities is to minimized damage to third-parties. Kind of a gesture to ADOR to finish what was scheduled.

[young wyvern]

okay i understand that but a contract is still a legal document that would need a legal solution/court to help terminate. not to mention any fees hybe or nwjeans would be paying

where is the legal team 😭

[wind monolith]

According to newjeans contract they r allowed to terminate

[wind monolith]

Nj do have one believe in them

[young wyvern]

ya i watched the presser. i just don't understand how legally this works. i dont have insights in the their contract and idk if anyone does

[red thorn]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1862070051421208793?s=46&t=H3VTwQllce3_xwwAOvY-4g

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

NewJeans' exclusive contract is with ADOR, and as of today, the agency has failed to address the group’s stated concerns, thereby breaching its contractual obligations. NewJeans initially provided ADOR with two separate 14-day grace periods to rectify these issues. However, with

Twitter · Nov 28, 2024, 9:44 AM

[cosmic belfry]

They're represented by Sejong, a top lawfirm. What they're doing is unconventional but completely legal. The contracts can be unilaterally terminated and the other side's inaction is basically accepting it. In this case, they fully expect ADOR to respond. But they cannot stop them from continuing independent activities while the lawsuit is happening.

[elfin pewter]

I mean, yeah, it’s hard to understand. Only they know what they’re doing or maybe even they don’t /j.
But they do look really happy

XD

[young wyvern]

oh i guess HYBE would be considered a 3rd party here? but tbh i doubt HYBE or even ADOR wouldnt challenge this

[neon igloo]

simple example:
You purchase a new car, and it comes with a warranty. During the warranty period, any major part failures that shouldn't occur are the responsibility of the dealership.

If the dealership fails to fulfill its obligations, such as repairing or replacing the defective parts, you have the right to unilaterally terminate the agreement (return the sales contract and the car to the dealership)

[cosmic belfry]

If they filed, they wouldn't be able to continue their careers until the result of an injunction legally suspends their contract. The route they're taking now, lets them continue working independently even during a lawsuit.

[neon igloo]

The same applies to a new smartphone:
You buy a new iPhone, and it comes with a warranty. During the warranty period, any malfunctions or defects that shouldn't occur are the responsibility of the seller or Apple

[young wyvern]

i see. thank you for explaining 🙏🏾

[neon igloo]

so the members encountered problems and had demands for their company during the term of their contract. The issues were not resolved by the company. They are terminating the contract due to the company’s inaction and failure to provide protective services

They promised to announce the remaining details and legal specifics later

[red thorn]

NJ have strong accusation (and it seems they're confident in their proofs) towards ador that ador violated the obligation
So expecting ador to challenge with allegation that the contract still valid

[young wyvern]

i guess my only issue left is ADOR is insisting that there has been no breach, so the contract is still valid as it stands now: https://www.vulture.com/article/newjeans-leaving-ador-press-conference.html

obviously there will be legal repercussions however things work out

[young wyvern]

i hope they come out publicly with evidence

[wind monolith]

That is what adors says but legally its terminste

[neon igloo]

They can certainly try to sue NewJeans. But I think the key here is to simply prove that ADOR = HYBE, and then all their excuses become meaningless. And since HYBE owns 100% of ADOR’s shares, well... there’s no issue at all

[split bramble]

wouldnt even need to prove that, all they gotta do is show new ador did nothing to protect the girls from hybe and other 3rd parties

[young wyvern]

i dont think thats how it works. one party cannot unilaterally terminate a contract if theres a disagreement. i fully expect ador/hype to challenge this :/

[tiny peak]

they are completely independent going forward. ADOR can't enslave them with a contract. ADOR only option is to sue for damages

[neon igloo]

i know that dude, i know

[split bramble]

i bet they'll also demand broadcasters blacklist them

[red thorn]

Thus why ador now acting like shielding and fully support their artist and even care about mhj, to separate body

[wind monolith]

Its legally terminated ador can sue if they dont think so then ador has the burden

The statement by ador means nothing unless they take it to court

[neon igloo]

everything will be okay, just be chill tokki

[gentle badger]

[elfin pewter]

Gg smh

[sage pilot]

There’s no “disagreement” between the parties. ADOR violated the contract agreement between NJ and ADOR

[neon igloo]

I saw the girls happy faces during their performance today, how much they enjoyed being on stage. And we have many more performances like this ahead of us. After that, we’ll just need to wait a little to get a HUUUGE of new content

[young wyvern]

but ADOR has literally said there was no breach between them and the girls. they will take this to court 100%

because if they dont they have to pay $$$$$$ in fees

[neon igloo]

This shouldn't worry us anywaaay

[elfin pewter]

Yeah, but fighting for the name and songs would be problematic, right?

[neon igloo]

50/50, usually, this is more of a financial issue than a legal one

[young wyvern]

in fact its probably better for nwjeans if ADOR filed first

[sage pilot]

They can say whatever they want. Unless they go to court and prove they didn’t violate anything (and the burden of proof will be on them), it’s just useless yapping

I hope someday ppl will stop paying attention to what HYBE/ADOR says bc all their yapping is just for mediaplay. Unless they go to court and win, their mediaplay means nothing

And HYBE is yet to win anything in court lol

[red thorn]

Tired reading the bs, but I had to

[elfin pewter]

They may not have won in court, but successfully kicked mhj out 😑

[sage pilot]

I wouldn’t say they did it successfully. They ultimately reached their goal, yes, but first they lost in court and took huuuge reputation blows. And they’re still taking the hits lol

[ornate vine]

speaking of kicking mhj out, NJ essentially are doing the same thing to ADOR that HYBE did to MHJ.

If ADOR tries to argue that NewJeans cannot unilaterally terminate their contract due to a breach of trust (which NewJeans likely have proof of occurring), they are actively setting back HYBE's case of unilateral termination of MHJ's shareholder contract (in which courts have already claimed there is not sufficient evidence of breach of trust).

[vapid turret]

I thought NJ didn’t disband just left

[elfin pewter]

Damn, yeah I never seem it that way

[brave stone]

Okay everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, you’re allowed to support mhj

[sage pilot]

Also, someone correct me if I’m wrong, but during MHJ’s 2nd injunction, didn’t they say it’s not the court’s jurisdiction or something and they should conclude their main lawsuit first? Which is still ongoing? So maybe it can still turn out that Hybe had no right kicking MHJ out.

[ornate vine]

yeah the way i see the future playing out (take this with a grain of salt as im just following logical patterns and not really an expert in these kind of things) is this

If ADOR attempts to argue NJs termination claims it creates these situation post legal battle

Unilateral Termination of Contract is Invalid = NJ stay in ADOR but MHJs Shareholder contract was always valid and she can be reinstated as CEO of ADOR

Unilateral Termination of Contracts were valid = NJ is free and HYBE/ADOR must pay damages to them, but MHJ doesn't get access to her put options.

[elfin pewter]

I don't know about that
I also want to know. There’s still an ongoing case where hybe is suing mhj for breach of trust(the very first one )right? Or has everything already been settled?

[ornate vine]

i truly dont see a way in which they can argue NewJeans cannot unilaterally terminate their contract but HYBE can

[wind monolith]

Yes

This is what i rmbr too

[rain spade]

lawsuitt hearing is going to be held january

[elfin pewter]

That's crazy

[shut kelp]

any new update after they terminated their contract?

[wind monolith]

They in japan

[shut kelp]

yea i know that but i mean from ador side?

[wind monolith]

Nah nothing so far

[rain spade]

Don't think so, we're just waiting for legal announcementt from either side

[tawdry vessel]

who do we trust ador or the girls? i personally trust robin more

[neon igloo]

Let’s focus on the positive news! NewJeans have brought together a huge number of people from all over the world and gifted us with amazing music! We just need to trust the girls and look forward to their new creations

[wheat raft]

both tokkis and antis became lawyers on 29/11

[sweet pebble]

we'd become anything for newjeans

[sage pilot]

https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/079/0003964495?sid=103

[sage pilot]

A very interesting article 👀 Let’s wait til someone translates, but it’s about legal community opinions on the termination stuff

[analog depot]

Will this server stay open till newjeans redebut then like if they have new name change to that???

[sage pilot]

On the 29th, attorney Noh Jong-eon of Law Firm Jeonjeon evaluated this press conference as "very strategic" to CBS Nocut News. He said, "Even if the ruling comes out in one to two years, the court is structured to passively judge 'whether the act of November 28 , 2024 is valid or invalid. ' From New Jeans' standpoint , if they are confident that 'the contract will definitely be terminated,' they can do that."

New Jeans' announcement of 'termination of contract without legal action' is, literally, an unprecedented and unique response.

Attorney Noh, who started off by saying that the reason for filing an injunction to suspend the validity of an exclusive contract is largely due to "business-related" reasons, such as who to communicate with when working with the artist in question, analyzed, "New Jeans has left the decision up to the advertisers and broadcasters. They are telling them to choose between New Jeans and Adore. This is possible because New Jeans is a global idol with enormous purchasing power."

So, will the 'termination of the contract' as New Jeans announced be carried out safely? Attorney Noh said, "There is a 'duty to protect the artist' in the exclusive contract, and that is the strongest duty that the agency has. However, the content of 'let's abandon New Jeans' was revealed through the Hive document," and predicted, "There is a very high probability that the contract termination will be recognized."

So protecting the artist is the strongest duty an agency can have and hybe not only did not protect them, but actively harmed them. Oh hybe, you should think twice before filing that lawsuit against NJ

[rain spade]

so technically they could extend the 14 days correction period

[ornate vine]

hopefully the courts would take into account the initial correction period given to them from nj's september livestream even though it may not have been delivered through a certified letter of intent the way the second one was

its been a LONG time since then...

[sage pilot]

Well there should be a justifiable reason first. What reason could HYBE/ADOR possibly give that the court will recognise it? KJY tears will not help

[wheat raft]

amazing

also NJ gave them sufficient time, 2 emergency lives / press con with 2 due dates

adors only response was essentially "it was not us, it was hybe. we cant do anything"

they can claim that its not their fault all they want, but they didnt even try to protect newjeans and thats where they will probably lose

[sage pilot]

Attorney Noh said, "If both parties are at fault, the penalty may not be paid (by either party). If one party is more at fault, that party pays the penalty, but given the current facts, such as the release of the Hive document, it seems that Hive and Adore are more at fault than New Jeans."

He added, "Since Adore is a subsidiary under the absolute control of Hive, which has all the rights to personnel, management, and budget execution, they are legally one entity."

[lucid yarrow]

lol they change the management just for this its all on them now they have 100% control of ador now they can't blame this on MHJ anymore or any1 else if they not going help NJ in any ways bc company roadblocks tough luck

[sage pilot]

Not only will Hybe have to pay a filing fee of 2.2B won to even file a lawsuit against NJ, but when they will likely lose, they will also have to pay a huge amount of damages to NJ.

Honestly i kinda want them to do it now NJ will be free regardless during the lawsuit, and hybe will waste their money and time

[rain spade]

use tthe money to buy back their name

[wind monolith]

https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1862663653155381379

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

armys mad that newjeans left and not kicked out.
armys mad coz newjeans didn't file an injunction coz they wanted njs to halt their activities.
armys mad that their twitter law degrees holds no bearing and will never be the source of truth.
armys mad coz hybe keeps on losing.

Twitter · Nov 30, 2024, 1:03 AM

[rain spade]

https://tenor.com/view/rora-lee-dain-oh-oho-wow-gif-4208981460218034155

[ornate vine]

dear god, im not HYBEs side but is that actually how much itd cost to file. that doesnt sound right.

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/adotokis/status/1862652080936096200?s=46

[narrow seal]

241130 ADOTOKIS Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/ADOTOKIS/status/1862652080936096200
𝐍𝐞𝐰𝐉𝐞𝐚𝐧𝐬’ “𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐓𝐞𝐫𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐋𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐀𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧” 𝐀𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭: 𝐋𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐏𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐬

[sage pilot]

It’s translated. We should pin this. Everyone, save the receipts

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/njbubblegum/status/1862287998844641711?s=46

[narrow seal]

241129 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1862287998844641711
According to the court's filing fee/service fee calculator, HYBE need to pay 2.2B KRW to the court to make their 620B KRW claim in cash.

HYBE's net profit for Q3 2024 was 1.4B KRW.

[ornate vine]

ah ic, its a calculation based on the amount they're asking for in damages. in context that makes sense, for some reason my brain thought that was some sort of flat fee LMFAO

[rain spade]

thiis is legal side from nj right?

[sage pilot]

No, it’s opinions from the legal community in SK

[rain spade]

i realised after i opend it

[frozen bronze]

who is running the newjeans socials now

[lucid yarrow]

hmmm ok "HYBE Identifies YouTubers Behind Defamatory Content Against ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM" good riddance idol don't deserver all hate but no mention of NJ i guess more ammo for NJ termination....

[sweet pebble]

Hiwish is not real right?

[grim hatch]

#announcements

[waxen musk]

-disband

[tall dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948918589602267186/1312007130093457459/image.png?ex=674aed5b&is=67499bdb&hm=99f14c7ff76ea2b1f3a2f04ead382e2a821d19a0e859ad42ddbc635c830d5b11&

[waxen musk]

I'm so glad there's that command now.

The fact that so many people were made aware of HIWISH whereas the only way I ever heard of it was from people saying it's fake is insane to me.

Whatever methods these people use to promote this fake information, we needed that to spread correct information and to promote NewJeans. How are they so effective?

Something needs to change by the time NewJeans releases new music again next year. I strongly feel as if the spread of misinformation is happening at around ten times the rate of the spread of correct information on places like TikTok. I just feel defeated over it.

[sweet pebble]

*tt https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMhKCkqCo/

[harsh dove]

@talytokki

[waxen musk]

Damn you had the same idea I had.

[lyric geyser]

They make me so angry fr 😭

There’s so many of them, I don’t even bother responding anymore

[sweet pebble]

ye id rather js wait for nj updates(here) than listening to a random bloke that scrolls twitter

[rain spade]

fake fan think they know everything

🗣️ OaaYaaaa i know everything and I'm the smartest person