NJZ Updates and Discussion

[heady gate]

Civil and criminal cases differ in several ways, including the type of dispute, the burden of proof, the role of the victim, and the penalties

[tawdry vessel]

@dapper root open again

[waxen musk]

JAIL THOSE FUCKERS

[tawdry vessel]

yes

[waxen musk]

Sorry lol

[tawdry vessel]

[wind monolith]

nah nah i totally agree with u

hybe and source should be next fs

[heady gate]

5 billion won = 3,571,048 USD = 3,409,841 Euro

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/njbubblegum/status/1859819138946040214?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

[narrow seal]

241122 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1859819138946040214
(241122)
Sports Kyunghyang
[Full Statement] Min Hee-jin Files Criminal Complaint Against Kim Tae-ho Over 'I***T-NewJeans Plagiarism Denial'... Also Files 5 Billion Won Damages Lawsuit
Reporter Lee Sun-myeong
https://njb-jj.notion.site/241122-Sports-Kyunghyang-MHJ-Files-5-Billion-KRW-Damages-Lawsuit-Against-BELIFT-LAB-Executives-1461279fe54e809ea6e3cc2704ab3b62

[split bramble]

why was this thread closed anyway?

[jolly junco]

MHJ filed a criminal complaint not civil

[tawdry vessel]

damien happened

[jolly junco]

Meaning she has a concrete evidence to back up her case

[waxen musk]

Complaint doesn't sound as strong as lawsuit. But I'm not expert on legal terms. It being criminal complaint is exactly what I wanted to hear. I hope they like prison food.

[split bramble]

MHJ is no longer bound by shareholder's agreement now everyone yapping gonna catch a lawsuit lol

[waxen musk]

~t https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1859821208344433059

[narrow seal]

241122 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1859821208344433059
The actions taken by Mhj include both civil and criminal lawsuits
1.Civil Lawsuit: She has filed a damages lawsuit against Belift Lab and its affiliates, demanding 5 billion KRW in compensation. This falls under civil litigation, primarily seeking financial reparation for losses.

[waxen musk]

The actions taken by Mhj include both civil and criminal lawsuits
1.Civil Lawsuit: She has filed a damages lawsuit against Belift Lab and its affiliates, demanding 5 billion KRW in compensation. This falls under civil litigation, primarily seeking financial reparation for losses.
2.Criminal Lawsuit: She has also filed a criminal complaint with the police, accusing individuals at Belift Lab of defamation under the Information and Communications Network Act, aiming to hold them legally accountable for their actions
the legal actions initiated by Mhj encompass both civil and criminal proceedings 🧢💪

Thanks Vous for the legal definitions.

[dapper root]

im back

[jolly junco]

Well in conclusion, she’s not playing with these suit. Not like belift filed a lawsuit just to satisfied their artist wish

[dapper root]

lets get this party started! im kidding

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1859821400720277622/photo/1

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

South Korean Criminal Act (형법) articles 307 and 308
Information and Communications Network Act (정보통신망법) article 70

Twitter · Nov 22, 2024, 4:49 AM

Criminal vs Civil Defamation explanation.

[half knot]

I hope this is the beginning of her countersuits

[waxen musk]

This is exactly what this is. And it's only the start.

[tawdry vessel]

[half knot]

because it's taken way too long, almost as if she held off on the off chance of reconciliation all this time

[jolly junco]

She was just respecting hybe because of the shareholder agreement

[waxen musk]

She gave them so many chances.

[half knot]

but they unilaterally broke off the shareholders agreement 3 months ago

lawsuit about that is still pending too, I hope she has enough money to fund this

or at least her lawyers are willing to put up with it until she gets a settlement money and they take like 50% of it

[waxen musk]

She'll be fine if she wins everything she's filing against them. But yeah it's a bit scary with them using the "SLAPP" tactics to drain her of her resources.

[vague shore]

Many experts pointed out that leaking private messages had gotten out of hand back then, as most of the KakaoTalk messages leaked to the media were illegally recovered from a returned laptop two years ago without her consent

[half knot]

I still think the only real solution to this will involve a private military mercenary kill squad

from one side or the other, because the egos involved are just too large to ever settle

and the legal side seems confusing to say the least and the results won't end with one ruling or judgement

[steel depot]

what's up guys what happened?

ok i see it now I'm gonna read it later

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[pulsar wasp]

never agree to use the company laptop.

[steel depot]

mhj will get justice and be richer than she is now 💪

also, thank you mods for opening the thread

[jolly junco]

HYBE must thought that they are above the law. Did they think they can get away after doing illegal stuff?

[steel depot]

i wonder when are they gonna get audited

[upper solstice]

i give up..

you were magnificent newjeans i will never forget you for as long as i live

[waxen musk]

?

[wind monolith]

? Chill

[tawdry vessel]

chill neet, they're going to be free soon

[wind monolith]

Take a break dont look into the situation too much. They will be back

We r in the final season

[waxen musk]

This will all lead to a much better future.

[tawdry vessel]

blessings in disguise

[upper solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QYPKsMq7Fsc i rmbr when this dropped

those were the days

[waxen musk]

Wrong thread? (Sorry I deleted my reply.)

[tawdry vessel]

let neet cook

[hoary frost]

as long as the OT5 is sticking ill still be supporting with the same energy

[steel depot]

they're gonna be fine just take a mental break

[waxen musk]

They're going to be better than they ever were before, at least mentally.

[hoary frost]

i just read that illit openly thank those 4 names in the lawsuits in their speech i feel bad cuz i know theyre the ones whos gonna get the backlash

[wind monolith]

I have so many things to say cuz nj gets dragged for thanking mhj crazy shi

[waxen musk]

Do you think the girls themselves would file lawsuits after they leave?

I mean other than the ones to leave in the first place.

[jolly junco]

unless HYBE keep a defamatory mediaplay against them after they leave, i dont think they will

the core problem is still MHJ vs HYBE, not NJ vs HYBE after all

[hoary frost]

i mean its kinda sus they prolly told to say that like i get it if its only their ceo or creative director names but those 4 specific names is kinda too much

[shut kelp]

idk i feel like they've been doing mediaplay since debut

[tawdry vessel]

let them thank who they wanna thank

[shut kelp]

which lawsuit?

ohhh nvm i understand

[scenic crest]

WE BACK

[unborn jewel]

This person is just like me, down to every detail
They said exactly how i feel

[tawdry vessel]

i aint reading all that

[waxen musk]

I saw d word

[sweet pebble]

i read allat and it was very real

[acoustic valve]

Not if Hybe wises up for a change and decides to settle amicably with the girls. A settlement that would naturally ask them to not pursue any further litigation against Hybe companies. But Hybe ain't wise... so who knows

[hearty stone]

I don't think it would be wise, they will just make themselves more vulnerable for a loss of debt for hybe

If they can just get out without huge debt its already a huge win

[modern fog]

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1860103339972927545

pannchoa (@pannchoa) on X

Min Heejin announces she plans to sue Source Music
https://t.co/6IyjtQQoEz

Twitter · Nov 22, 2024, 11:29 PM

[cerulean lake]

deserved since source music sent those vids to dispatch

[waxen musk]

Are there other sources? This kinda reads similarly to how the Belift stuff did.

Yeah I think this article might be an error based on the Korean source. They're mixing up Source and Belift.

I'm not that sure though. I think it's just Pannchoa being crap at their jobs.

[modern fog]

This thread will be immediately locked if anyone mentions Illit's speech again.

[steel depot]

I was waiting for this too

[tall holly]

Guys it’s all a dream wake up newjeans is fine! 😔😔

[wheat raft]

jhin dont lock the thread but i just wanna say tokkis should never hate on illit speech, because then we are just causing an endless cycle of hate on idols instead of the actual problematic upper management.

[waxen musk]

What is your problem. (I agree but the rules are clear.)

[modern fog]

real. but sorry this thread will still be locked if that happens unless there's an update.

[wheat raft]

no i mean dont lock the thread due to my message feel free to lock if others bring it up

[modern fog]

oh

[wheat raft]

[cosmic bison]

[jolly junco]

There is nothing new tho, so lets just chill and enjoy NJ vids

[cosmic bison]

[waxen musk]

I'm a bit confused about what I posted earlier. Nobody is talking about it (even on Twitter). Do we think it was a mistake?

[jolly junco]

i tend not to dive into panchoaa too much since panchoaa is a bit biased. So i wait for juantokki confirmation, since he never posted about it i guess its a mistake

[waxen musk]

I mean I saw plenty retweet it but that's about it. Yeah wait and see...

[split bramble]

fairs, but if someone makes the mistake of bringing it up give em a timeout instead of locking the thread

[modern fog]

it'll be locked if there isn't much of an update or ongoing discussion, but if someone brings it up during a discussion about an update, a timeout will be given.

[modern fog]

for example like this, this is totally fine. BUT calling them names because of their speech isn't.

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1732348149:d>

[Exclusive] "ADOR CEO Kim Joo-young Accused of Perjury" to Be Reviewed by the National Assembly’s Environment and Labor Committee
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/144/0001002760
Reporter Lee Seon-myeong

A petition requesting an investigation into ADOR CEO and HYBE CHRO (Chief Human Resources Officer) Kim Joo-young for alleged perjury will be addressed by the National Assembly’s relevant committee.

On the 22nd, the National Assembly stated that a petition titled "Request for the National Assembly Environment and Labor Committee (ELC) to Review the Perjury of ADOR CEO Kim Joo-young," which was submitted on the 12th, had been referred to the ELC as reference material.

As a result, the petition accusing Kim of perjury will be reviewed alongside a public petition requesting the withdrawal of HYBE’s designation as a "Top Employment Company" by the Ministry of Employment and Labor.

Previously, a petitioner identified as "A" submitted the claim that Kim had committed perjury during her testimony as a witness at the National Assembly’s Environment and Labor Committee’s audit session on October 15. The petitioner urged the National Assembly to initiate legal action in accordance with the National Assembly Testimony and Appraisal Act. The petitioner clarified that they were not affiliated with the NewJeans fandom. During the session, Kim testified regarding the so-called "NewJeans Hanni bullying incident," with Hanni herself attending as a reference witness.

The alleged perjury pertains to an internal document titled "Weekly Music Industry Report," which was recently disclosed and sparked controversy. The petitioner claimed, "The document was addressed to Kim Joo-young, who at the time was the Chief Human Resources Officer. Despite being aware of the document’s existence, Kim neglected her duty and falsely testified during the audit by emphasizing efforts for 'respectful behavior guidelines' and 'preventin

[modern fog]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1860229083650752711

[modern fog]

*x https://x.com/bunnylovebread_/status/1860548985779368435 -c

[harsh dove]

@bunnylovebread_ <t:1732424420:d>

All the suspicious details in the incident between Hanni and ILLIT's manager; A thread.

@bunnylovebread_ <t:1732424421:d>

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@bunnylovebread_ <t:1732424422:d>

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@bunnylovebread_ <t:1732424422:d>

[3] End.

@bunnylovebread_ <t:1732424423:d>

[4] Clean version of the timeline.

[modern fog]

[red thorn]

Belie lab

[jolly junco]

IJBOL

this alone already enough to convince me that bethief lab are lying about this whole incident

[ashen glade]

guys why are people still hating nj cuz of mhj?

[jolly junco]

what did they say?

[ashen glade]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DComLY_yPkv/?igsh=OWZmMXF6eTQ2cTF3

angels_wonyies

New jeans never dies
#newjeansedit #wony #newjeans
#daesang #hybe #kpopedit #newjeansminji #newjeanshanni #newjeansdanielle
#foryoupage #foryoupage #trending #explore #fyp

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[gleaming scarab]

thats just five people in an ig comment section

[ashen glade]

there is more tho

[gleaming scarab]

dont worry too much about some ig comments

[scenic crest]

also they might be Brain rot minors imo they talk alot and don't have the brain cell for expanding frontal lobe not fully developed

[ashen glade]

on every ig post there is
and I was not really online these days
so I just assumed that I may have missed some stuff
that happened recently

[scenic crest]

also even if you look on comments tiktok all kids spamming imo or other social platform

[jolly junco]

these people dont know Newjeans like we do. They dont believe in NJ skills to thrive in this industry like we do

[ashen glade]

imo even if nj keep getting hate
we should not give hate back to them

[jolly junco]

people will hate if you are successful, there no need to worry about that. Its normal

[short laurel]

Ignore n block them, they'll go away when no one reacts to them.

[zinc geyser]

they listen to ksi anyway

[scenic crest]

im the king to the crown to what to the prime ? idk man

[zinc geyser]

i don't wanna hear that song bro

[heady gate]

this sub is available.

[red thorn]

Seems they just hate nj and most likely they're in believe very certain that mhj is the worst kind of person, and no matter what she says won't reach them
But there are people that certain she's the wronged one in this feud, they dislike her is separate matter

[ashen glade]

I saw them say that she has affected a lot of idols work
is that true ?

[short laurel]

No. Mhj did nothing wrong

[red thorn]

Affected idols work as in?

[jolly junco]

In what way?

[short laurel]

Rule number 2 of kpop fanwar: if hybe is involved, hybe is in the wrong. Everything hybe stans blame others on are done by hybe.

[wind monolith]

Nj is loved those haters r mostly stans of 3 fandoms mainly armys. The voting for melon shows that

Nj only released 4 songs and they still lead in votes they r loved in korea

And internationally

[zinc geyser]

Where can I vote

[wind monolith]

The melon voting is only korea i think sadly

But it still shows the love nj get

[heady gate]

After a long reading, now I understand why NJ was the only Hybe grp invited to KGMA. b/c KGMA is owned by Ilgan Sports

*x https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1860591829416312882

[harsh dove]

@NJBUBBLEGUM <t:1732434634:d>
https://www.youtube.com/embed/xtav53m9OdI

[hoary frost]

lol tiktok comments are just bunch of brainrot liars like i remember one time someone replied to my comment abt hybes leak she said she works in a company and they do swot reports and its normal then i saw her on another post saying shes in college studying law and know mhj would lose the case lol they be anything and lie just to defend that company

[zinc geyser]

Preach!!!

New jeans never dies

[vapid bronze]

Someone tldr me thanks (I'm that lazy )

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1860601812530917695

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

I won’t translate this article because it’s trash. But here’s the gist: HYBE’s camp is implying tampering. They’re recycling the same “management usurpation” KakaoTalk chat from way back to paint a narrative that this is all some orchestrated ploy.

Let’s get this straight:

Did

Twitter · Nov 24, 2024, 8:30 AM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1860601812530917695 does not contain any media!

[jolly junco]

HYBE have nothing new so they are recycling old argument for netizens entertainment

[hoary frost]

2 more days and still no efforts to meet the demands hybe just prolonging it they prolly respond last minute

[jolly junco]

IMO they dont want to meet NJ demands and are trying to negotiate with them behind the scene

because by agreeing to NJ demand means their past action are full of lies

now HYBE are stuck in the middle and dont have many choices

[hoary frost]

yea tbh based on the media play going around i think they already getting ready cuz i know the girls wouldn't settle for less

[wheat raft]

looking forward to newgenes

[short laurel]

No mention of demanding ador for stopping misinformation spreading online?

[sonic meadow]

They are doing this on purpose I can tell

[jolly junco]

nothing about this

[sonic meadow]

It’s the 24th for me three more days until they get freedom from this shitty company

[jolly junco]

but if HYBE agreeing to do just 1 of NJ demand, it already contradicting their past actions. So, no, they wont agree to their demand

knowing HYBE ego.... LOL they wont be able to do that

[hoary frost]

anyways is there a date for that fraud perjury case?

[short laurel]

Sad. It's also part of the bare minimum agency should do.

[jolly junco]

no date yet, but they already added the case to National Assembly Environment and Labor Committee Agenda

[short laurel]

Anyways like u said, hybe is stuck, they can't refute or accept the demand, they'll be wrong either way

[jolly junco]

NJ legal team are smart

very demure very mindful actions

[sonic meadow]

Why are ratmys sometimes too much toxic

those little 7s I swear

[jolly junco]

i guess they just cant bear the fact that their LOVED company are in the wrong this time

[sonic meadow]

Fr

[jolly junco]

maybe they feel like that company were born because of them (read: their money)

[sonic meadow]

It’s true but they forgot other groups like newjeans

they also made profits for Hybe and Hybe sabotaging them

They forgot their own faves supported newjeans

[tiny peak]

NewJeans are overwhelmingly loved in Korea. It's easy to lose sight of that, because we're just exposed to a toxic side of the international fandoms.

[wheat raft]

anyway once newjeans is out of hybe and this arc is over, we'll probably see them shifting their attention and hate elsewhere

[tiny peak]

I can definitely see that happening

[sonic meadow]

They even got a collab of my favourite noodles which I eat sometimes which is indomie

[jolly junco]

nahh i bet my head they will keep stalking newjeans news and talking shit about it

their hatred towards newjeans are already beyond belief

[stiff prairie]

Did hybe bring on some sunday mediaplay actions again?

[jolly junco]

yes they are

[wheat raft]

yeh but thats how it is on twitter anyway. Same for some tokkis perpetually on twitter. Just that 7s have a larger fandom

[sonic meadow]

Don’t forgot those toxic 4s im a blink too but also a multistan

[stiff prairie]

Okay since 1tokki didn't translate I'll pass too

[jolly junco]

i saw some random tweet from little 7 about Rose new single and i thought damnnn they really put their nose where they dont belong all the time its literally have nothing to do with them but they keep downplaying her

when i saw it i dont understand, what did they get out of talking shit about rose like that?

sorry this is getting out of topic, lets just focus back on NJ vs HYBE

[jolly junco]

4s? who?

[sonic meadow]

Blackpink toxic Stan’s

[jolly junco]

i just realized that anyone who can get the top in this industry will always get bashed by those little 7, so i'm getting used to it and dont care what they said about NJ

[wheat raft]

until newjeans ive never partake in any fandom in my life, its quite an eye opening experience esp the fanwars and social media lol

[jolly junco]

ditto

[wind monolith]

Newjeans being my first kpop group ever i could never be thankful for it. I use to cringe at the word kpop but newjeans is something else. There songs and them just as ppl (personalities, their friendship, etc) is what made me love them.

[sonic meadow]

For me their concept made me connected it’s one of a kind

[short laurel]

they are in everyone's business since forever.

[lucid yarrow]

man the first few month i found NJ it was all sunshine/rainbows barely anything bad/neg on X now its 1000% more

[jolly junco]

they are not cringey because they are not trying to charm you. They really looks like 5 bestfriend having fun together by doing music

[wind monolith]

U worded it perfectly

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1860605932184744159 does not contain any media!

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1860600734053728626

[harsh dove]

@thegreatgaram <t:1732436757:d>

There are many articles written by HYBE's golf partners fearmongering about NewJeans termination fees, arrogantly presuming that HYBE/ADOR has no faults so the court penalize NewJeans. The proof for these fees are numbers pulled from MHJ's old Kakaotalks with her directors... but the bigger picture is that these Kakaotalks actually disprove any claims of tampering or "management usurpation" from MHJ/NewJeans. Why?

1. 1st screencap: the topic of pulling NewJeans out of ADOR and the penalty fees caught MHJ off guard. This was a subject MHJ did not contemplate on much.

2. 2nd screencap: she shut the director—and, thus, the topic—down because, to her, the fight will be too exhaustive to even entertain. HYBE was willing to pay 1billion USD for a useless company like ITHACA, they would not settle for less than that amount w/ an actual profitable IP.

[hoary frost]

if newjeans file this tuesday do they still need to show up fr their upcoming schedules?

[jolly junco]

they probably gonna filed the termination on thursday

[hoary frost]

i see they got a lot of jp appearances coming up plus sbs and aaa yall think theyll still attend?

[jolly junco]

NJ gave ADOR until 27th to meet their demands, so technically 27th is still valid for ADOR to turn everything

[hoary frost]

yea but if they followed thru are they still attending?

[jolly junco]

they are still Newjeans even after they file the termination, until the court grant them injuction

so yes i believe they will still attend

[tiny peak]

even if they file, I think they still techinically need to fulfill their duties until court decides?

has any lawyer speculated what could happen on the 27th?

[sonic meadow]

Idk

[vague shore]

Until the injunction result favors NJ, nothing will change contractually Both parties must fulfill their contractual obligations otherwise, it could work against them in court

[shy schooner]

They still have to fulfill schedule and termination does not happen right away it takes time

[wise wagon]

i read through that same comment section, it was pretty disheartening because the further i scrolled the more negative comments there were :'D

i figured its better to let it go because all of these people dont have knowledge on the situation as much as bunnies, they're missing a lot of info and use the smallest argument in their favour to feed into their hatred even if it was already debunked

[sonic meadow]

The amount of hate is crazy ( I mean what did I expect from Instagram and X/twitter)

[wise wagon]

i dont get why armies hate on newjeans sm.. i mean isnt hyein an army? and arent bts and newjeans basically friends?

[rain spade]

It's just fans creating drama that's all

[red thorn]

https://theqoo.net/square/3498345531 hilarious atp

[mild mist]

probably because they see them as competition

[hoary frost]

because some armies are stupid and think tokkis attacking hybe = tokkis attacking armies

[hearty stone]

They are a special breed

[short laurel]

they hate on every kpop groups. 🤷‍♂️ they have history of hating on most unproblematic idols

[jolly junco]

Credits to @juantokki

[split bramble]

that brother is busy as hell, job hopping every week

[hoary frost]

defend the company when the company also badmouth ur favs is INSANE level of glazing

[short laurel]

even if they were telling the truth. the company who does this lvl of internal report about living human beings could get in real trouble in court. so they should be reported. some of these people are comparing human beings to cocacola and pepsi, samsung and apple, etc which is not the same and is stupid comparison.

[lament delta]

Bruh those youtubers who put thumbnails like "newjeans deserves ____", "proof that il**t didn't plagiarize newjeans" or basically anything need to be discussed

Don't even get me started on seoulite tv cuz that guys is defo paid by Hybe to make his vids

[short laurel]

non of these youtubers or social media influencers are qualified to comment on all this tbh. only ones who are remotely qualified to to say anything about this other than party involved are the lawyers. and for the most part they are agreeing with MHJ and NJ.

even we are not qualified to say anything. so best to ignore those accounts.

[orchid field]

we really gotta stop listening to random average people on tiktok/youtube/twt talking like they have the accreditations

[short laurel]

they are just making content for engagement. they have no interest in the issue and no interest in researching it. they are just making content to feed whoever gives them higher count. and that is hybe stans.

[orchid field]

some random hater could just make a tiktok and start calling mhj names and some unsuspecting, uninformed person would just believe them and this has happened too many times and gone on for way too long

[sweet pebble]

they js be believin fake stuff that contributes to their side smh

[short laurel]

months ago some random guy said that korean cheerleaders makes millions and so many people believed him and it gone viral. it was bit later when he said he was only joking but people still think today that cheerleaders make millions.

they'll all quite down when defamation suit start hitting big accounts.

[orchid field]

will be jumping on jjinjins and sniper grave

[copper jetty]

Okay Cato_o_o was talking about "tampering" narrative regarding Hybe and there was an allusion to the group 50 50. I'm not actually well versed with what happened to them so can someone explain about this topic?

[waxen musk]

What does tampering mean exactly?

Also what do you think about this thread? I would think the girls would want to go for the quickest route out of Hybe so I'm not so sure about all of this.
https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1860717935666291083

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

As the deadline approaches…2 possibilities

1. Members file for termination and continue to work as NewJeans during the trial period. I’ve read those trial could be as short as 3 months to 2 years.

Considering overwhelming public evidence, I think it will be a shorter trial.+

Twitter · Nov 24, 2024, 4:11 PM

[short laurel]

50 50 case idk details but girls were stuck between 2 evils. manipulated by bigger evil. bigger evil lost. smaller evil is called not evil in korea. that's the narrative hybe side trying to make with NJ.

50 50 girls just had really bad lawyers. and the girl who gone back to the company said something about this being standard in industry. basically she gave up.

NJ most likely have good lawyers. also case here is much clear so girls should be fine.

[waxen musk]

Everyone on “our side” seems so confident which makes me nervous because I’m way more cautious.

[short laurel]

atleast for me confidence is cuz of past precedence.

[copper jetty]

Same. I mean this is an echo chamber. I still don't know how strong would be NJ's case against Hybe.

[waxen musk]

Yeah, it’s hard not to be confident based on how Hybe has been behaving all this time. It’s just the courts and legal technicalities that make me nervous.

[boreal laurel]

Its the great irony
Their hatred for a woman is so great that they use that hatred to justify their hatred towards the girls

All while defending a corporation that is no better than sm jyp yg bbc
Corporations that would not hesitate to throw their artists under the bus
Corporations that form the foundation of the mistreatment faced by artists generation by generation
Corporations that have been actively sued by their own artists over unfair contracts

But for some reason these people think HYBE is different HYBE is sPeCiAl
Because they believe HYBE is synonymous with BTS
The same corporation whose CEO didnt even recognize one of the BTS members whether as a childish powermove or indifference

[hoary frost]

Doesnt this mean Newjeans wont face any “penalty” that was people were speculating

[jolly junco]

they wont if NJ can present evidence to back up their case in court

lets just pray they really have the evidence to support their testimony

[heady gate]

It is Nov 25 in South Korea.

[hoary frost]

lol i think they already started kmedia spamming those edited kkt texts sniper bringing up Gfriends disbandment again

[jolly junco]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003396929

IJBOL

[wind monolith]

ye i saw hybe is grasping at straws bringing back old stuff

[jolly junco]

the shaman is back

[runic knoll]

it is almost the deadline

[waxen musk]

The annoying thing about the 27th is I think we all know that NewJeans will in fact file to terminate their contracts. So everyone's waiting for something we all expect. And it's not like anything is going to happen on that day, we'll still have to wait for the courts to grant the termination.

[jolly junco]

people know that, its just their anxiety eating them up and keep asking just to make sure everything still happen

[waxen musk]

I can relate.

[zinc geyser]

Men don't cry 😢 I support their decision

[hoary frost]

So lets say hypothetically newjeans get everything else they requested MINUS reinstating MHJ. Do u think we get a world they stay?

I mention HYPOTHETICALLY so do not send me death threats i love newjeans as much as u

[modern fog]

lmao

[jolly junco]

i dont see a future where NJ stays with HYBE

hypothetically, if HYBE accept all NJ demands, that means sacrificing Bethief

in your opinion, would HYBE choose ADOR over Bethief?

[cloud glen]

I hope that the staff (that supported them) leave with NewJeans if the contract is terminated because I hope that they will continue to support them in the New NewJeans lol

[cloud glen]

They'd choose whatever gives them more money right?

[jolly junco]

because this demand here, they cant refute this if they do, that means everything Kim Tae Ho and Lee Juyoung said was a lie and they will get perjury

[hoary frost]

i need newjeans to redebut under sm.. idk itd be kinda iconic

wait nvm sm is terrible

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/9u_mung/status/1860875674787127532?s=46

亡옴 (@9u_mung) on X

5집 예판공지 뜸

https://t.co/gjkM2afwq6

Twitter · Nov 25, 2024, 2:38 AM

[hoary frost]

Mhj comeback announced 😂 another coke rant incoming

[steep torrent]

december 6

[jolly junco]

She gonna yap again

[waxen musk]

MHJ spent forever saying how she hated being a public figure and now after the first press conference she can't help herself.

She should at least bring another FRNK demo with her again.

[jolly junco]

Because she felt wronged, i understand how she feel. If i got accused like that i want to clear my name obviously

[tawdry vessel]

we want 250 demo

[stiff prairie]

Negative article towards hybe on naver? My days

[heady gate]

MHJ should affiliate with a clothing brand.

[sonic meadow]

Atp we have to accept Litterally every single company existing rn has done either corrupt or bad

[sweet pebble]

what if they js go solo

with the old ador n stuff

depends on their plan

[red thorn]

Seems working under other kpop big label is out of question since mhj role principle is 'management + producing sync'

[neon igloo]

OMG! I want to watch this interview! When will it be on December 6? And has anyone shared the link?

[modern fog]

will you sub it

[red thorn]

The online seems exclusive content

[neon igloo]

If we find the link, then I’ll be

But it looks like entry is only with a purchased ticket (pass)

[steel depot]

im on vacation leave on dec 6 yey

[neon igloo]

Are you going to MHJ’s lecture? hahaha

[steel depot]

im not from korea but I'll be listening to her lecture if there's a livestream

[jolly junco]

we might find the livestream when it happens

lets just hope anyone will share it

[boreal laurel]

I cant believe its already 2 years since the absolutely devastating day that everyone woke up to BBC kicking out Chuu.

its funny the parallels esp how BBC tried to accuse Chuu of bullying staff members at the time lmaooo (some people were even gullible enough to side with BBC LMAO)

but if that's any indication I hope our girls get the good ending they deserve even if its going to be a fight into 2025

[short laurel]

dispatch was kissing BBC so much back then.

[heady gate]

Today is Monday at 7:27pm in Korea. No media play all day?

[jolly junco]

there are actually

but its just old things that get recycling by HYBE

[hoary frost]

2 more days

[hoary frost]

lmao

[celest zinc]

Wait a min. It could be!

[hearty stone]

????????

[vapid turret]

I may be late but yes, they did collabs with Jimin and Jungkook

[short laurel]

if copyright conditions allow i say don't have high hopes yet. we all know how messed up and restrictive kpop contracts usually are.

[frozen bronze]

i am so confused what ador's plan is here

[waxen musk]

tomorrow 👀 (kst)

I was right about the date.

[celest zinc]

Yeah, you're right. But its cool to know too

[ornate vine]

maybe someone here who has a bit of a better idea about the legal implications of whats happening can try to answer this question for me, i understand there's a lot up in the air but i dont want to start making wrong assumptions when ppl ask me about the situation (im the nj guy in my friend groups LOL).

going by their official letter that was sent to ADOR, does ADOR have until the end of the 26th to rectify their breaches of contract or do they also have all of the 27th? If they don't (i think we all know they won't), how soon after this date can NJ file for contract termination as well as an injunction to halt activities?

[jolly junco]

Ador have all the 27th to meet their demand, and NJ can file their termination on 28th if ador failed to do it

[unborn jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderverse-spiderman-milemorales-2days-in2days-gif-13477448018538798523

[waxen musk]

I don’t know but the only date we know about is the 27th being 14 days after their notice. How long it takes the courts to grant NewJeans’ request to terminate the contract is unknown but I see people say around two months at the very very quickest.

[jolly junco]

Two months if NJ file for injuction to halt all activities under Newjeans name. If granted, they can continue to make music under new name. If they dont file for injuction, it can be years before they can leave hybe

And they still have the obligation to fulfill the contract as Newjeans (if they dont file for injuction)

[hoary frost]

tomorrow 🙂‍↕️

[waxen musk]

Literally everything the girls have been saying about being excited for next year makes it seem they'll take the quick option. If they were to stay at Hybe for years they wouldn't be so excited about even a comeback in 2025. I'm only basing this on what the girls have been saying in Phoning calls and during the KGMA interview.

[upbeat stream]

cato (twt user) thinks that they won't since they will fight for their ip

[jolly junco]

yes i also feel the same, i think they will take the injuction option so they can create something on their own without HYBE interfering

[jolly junco]

sigh this will take years, and i dont think HYBE will give them comeback if they still under HYBE

[waxen musk]

It's not like they can't take the quick option for now and also take the long option while working as a "new" group?

[jolly junco]

they can take injuction while the main suit still on going

[waxen musk]

After getting my Line Friends merch today it just reminds me how many deals and things NewJeans have tied up. It's insane.

[upbeat stream]

Yeah main lawsuit ruling will be in 2026

[jolly junco]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1861218553032253481

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

Min Hee-jin Accused HYBE CCO, and PR Head of Breach of Duty: “Severe Damage to NewJeans” [Full Statement]
https://t.co/nRX1BbRCvq
SPOTV News Reporter Jang Jin-ri

Former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin has filed a criminal complaint against HYBE’s Chief Communications Officer and PR Head.

Twitter · Nov 26, 2024, 1:20 AM

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1732584057:d>

Min Hee-jin Accused HYBE CCO, and PR Head of Breach of Duty: “Severe Damage to NewJeans” [Full Statement]
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/477/0000523151
SPOTV News Reporter Jang Jin-ri

Former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin has filed a criminal complaint against HYBE’s Chief Communications Officer and PR Head.

On the 26th, Min Hee-jin’s legal representatives, Sejong Law Firm, announced that Min filed a report with the Yongsan Police Station on the 25th, accusing HYBE’s Chief Communications Officer, Park Tae-hee, and PR Head, Cho Sung-hoon, of breach of duty.

Min, who had previously filed a defamation suit against Kim Tae-ho, CEO of Belift Lab, and Vice CEO Choi Yoon-hyuk, has now added HYBE’s CCO and PR Head to her complaints, accusing them of breach of duty.

Min’s team stated, “As part of HYBE’s Shared Service PR organization, they were in a position where they should have promoted NewJeans on ADOR’s behalf while receiving fees from ADOR. However, not only did they fail to fulfill this duty, but they also downplayed ADOR’s and NewJeans’ achievements, causing serious damage.” They added, “We hope for appropriate criminal punishment corresponding to their offenses.”

Below is the full official statement from Min Hee-jin.

Hello,

This is Macoll Consulting Group, responsible for media communication on behalf of Min Hee-jin, represented by Sejong Law Firm.

On the 25th, former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin filed a criminal complaint against HYBE CCO Park Tae-hee and HYBE PR Head Cho Sung-hoon with the Yongsan Police Station, citing breach of duty.

Despite being part of HYBE’s Shared Service PR organization, tasked with promoting NewJeans on ADOR’s behalf for a fee, they neglected this responsibility, downplayed ADOR’s and NewJeans’ achievements, and caused severe harm.

We hope for criminal punishment in line with their wrongdoing.

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[jolly junco]

that recording with Seoul Shinmun that the reporter leaked can serves as evidence in court

they are sooooooo dead this time

[steel depot]

💪✨

[hoary frost]

i got a question what does tadol mean?

[hoary frost]

i keep seeing ktokkis twt abt it?

[modern fog]

where did u read it

[hoary frost]

i cant find it anymore but i see posts abt it i think theres a little infighting between ktokkis

[timber shell]

타돌 = tadol meaning 3rd party idol

[modern fog]

thanks general right now lover

[timber shell]

[hoary frost]

lol scrolling thru the kside of tokkitwt use to be nice and peaceful but i guess they fight too

i swear if hybe decided to pull a scumbag move and own newjeans ip and force other members to take that ip im gonna riot

[rain spade]

Pepelaugh. Don't doubt hybe

[waxen musk]

Nice to see more criminals getting called out by MHJ. I just keep wondering, who's next?

[jolly junco]

Park ji won

people seems to forget him ever since he stepped down from CEO, but he is also 1 of the core problem within hybe

MHJ trusted him before, but he played both side

"In civil lawsuits, like those HYBE and it’s cronies we’re dishing out, the burden of proof is typically on the “preponderance of the evidence,” meaning that one side must show that their claims are more likely true than not. In criminal lawsuits, like the ones MHJ’s camp has been filing against individuals from HYBE, the burden is “beyond a reasonable doubt.” Criminal suits demand higher standard of proof. The prosecution must prove with near certainty that the defendant committed the offense, as criminal penalties can significantly impact a person’s freedom."

@juantokki

[upbeat stream]

I don't think they can do that. Source tried to trademark Gfriend many times after the members had left but it was rejected each time because the brand is assosciated with the original members. Of course, our case is different but the key point is that brand confusion is something Korean courts care about. The only reason attrakt got away with it is due to Keena

So as long as all members leave, hybe won't redebut or give the ip to anyone else. It'll either remain frozen or nwjns will try to acquire it

[hoary frost]

i thought u said he won

[harsh dove]

@garpu67359211 <t:1732601989:d>

Progressive Party Rep. Jung Hye-gyeong
"As humans, we deserve respect"
'NewJeans Hanni' Law = Amendment of Workplace Harassment Prevention Law

[jolly junco]

*x -c https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1861291335812051142

[harsh dove]

@cato_o_o <t:1732601410:d>

Article

November 26 2024

‘NewJeans Hanni Act’ Proposed: “All Workers Deserve Respect in the Workplace”

“Jung Hye-kyung, a Progressive Party lawmaker, has introduced a partial amendment to the Labor Standards Act.”

Shin Da-In reporter

Link to follow

[jolly junco]

wowww things progressed
Newjeans Hanni Act

[wind monolith]

fire name

[steel depot]

woah

[waxen musk]

These girls are making history is more ways than we can imagine.

[zinc geyser]

What happen?

[jolly junco]

they are proposing to make a new law under Hanni experienced

for the whole kpop industry

[sweet pebble]

its over for hybe once it gets accepted

[zinc geyser]

That's big

So their Planning to implement it?

For new labor code standards

[jolly junco]

they are still proposing the bill, hopefuly it get passed so they can make the new law

but tbh i'm just glad this thing dont get swept under the rug, they are serious about this matters and are discussing it

[zinc geyser]

Since I'm studying law so what article will be implement on their labor if will be applied by under bullying in workplace the company plus their individual contractor right?

[jolly junco]

The proposed amendment introduces special provisions for service providers and artists. It also establishes employer obligations for addressing harassment caused by third parties and sets penalties for perpetrators and employers who fail to take appropriate measures in cases of workplace harassment.

[zinc geyser]

Ok i see

So basically there's civil &criminal law and human rights was involved?

[jolly junco]

yes

[zinc geyser]

I wish I could read the cases about it so I can diegest it

[jolly junco]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1861309965820105014

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1732605851:d>

"Downplaying NewJeans and Suggesting Golf Outings"… Min Hee-jin Files Complaints Against HYBE's PR Officials [Top Issue]
https://m.news.nate.com/view/20241126n18268
TopStar News Reporter Seo Seung-ah

Former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin, who recently resigned from HYBE, continues her legal battle.

On the 26th, Min's legal representative from Sejong Law Firm revealed to Top Star News, "Min Hee-jin filed a complaint yesterday (25th) with the Yongsan Police Station against HYBE's Chief Communications Officer Park Tae-hee and PR Director Cho Sung-hoon on charges of breach of trust."

Min’s side stated, "These individuals were part of HYBE's shared services PR team and were responsible for promoting NewJeans under a contractual relationship with ADOR. However, instead of fulfilling their duties, they undermined ADOR and NewJeans, causing significant damage. We hope appropriate criminal penalties will be imposed for their actions."

Earlier in September, suspicions arose after a recording involving a HYBE PR official and journalist Jang Hyung-woo of Seoul Shinmun was made public, suggesting that HYBE had downplayed NewJeans' achievements.

On September 25, during CBS Radio's Kim Hyun-jung’s News Show, anchor Kim Hyun-jung mentioned receiving a tip from journalist Jang claiming that "HYBE was belittling NewJeans." In a phone interview, Jang shared, "At first, I thought it was just a PR official acting on their own. But the conversation I had with them was later published in an article."

Jang elaborated, "In May, HYBE's PR team leader and head of PR visited my company, showing screenshots of messages with Min. These screenshots were later leaked online. If it had been a personal indiscretion, I wouldn’t have reported it."

Jang also disclosed a recording of his conversation with the PR team. In the recording, a PR official said, "It seems the Seoul Shinmun editor dislikes us. We need to find a way to change their mind.

[mild mist]

Sounds like we should ban golf

[mild mist]

The question for this is: if accepted into law, would it be active immediately? Or would it only be active on contracts signed after that date?

I'd think it would be the former, but you never know

[jolly junco]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1861328263588782331

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1732610214:d>

[Exclusive] "HYBE PR Employees' Defamation of NewJeans Constitutes Breach of Duty"
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/144/0001003339
Reporter Lee Seon-myeong

The legal battle between former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin and HYBE is escalating, with Min filing complaints against HYBE employees for allegedly harming NewJeans and ADOR.

On October 25, Min submitted a formal complaint to the Yongsan Police Station, accusing HYBE’s Chief Public Relations Officer (referred to as “A”) and its PR Director (“B”) of occupational embezzlement.

According to Min’s legal representatives at Sejong Law Firm, “These individuals, as part of HYBE’s Shared Services PR team, were paid fees by ADOR to promote NewJeans. However, instead of fulfilling this responsibility, they diminished NewJeans’ achievements, causing significant damage to both ADOR and NewJeans.”

The complaint is linked to a recorded phone conversation between “B” and a journalist (“C”) that was made public in October.

In the recording, “B” contacted “C,” saying, “The album didn’t sell as much as expected in Japan, so that aspect needs to be corrected.”

“B” also referred to Min’s successful court injunction against HYBE earlier this year, remarking, “In this industry, I guess this kind of thing happens. If the artists are mentally gaslit, this is the result.”

Furthermore, “B” commented on the group I’LL-IT, saying, “They’re being criticized as a knockoff of NewJeans, which has completely destabilized the artists’ mental state. We had no choice but to file the lawsuit to console the artists and fans.”

Min’s representatives argue that such remarks by HYBE’s PR team raise legal concerns, including obstruction of business and discrimination against artists. They also claim that HYBE, as ADOR’s parent company, collects substantial service fees but engaged in acts that effectively hindered ADOR and NewJeans, amounting to a breach of duty.

HYBE has denied the accus

[jolly junco]

good bye hybe it wasn't nice knowing you

[short laurel]

Twt on war about the slogan dam.

[jolly junco]

unnecessary war tbh

[short laurel]

90% twt war are unnecessary

[zinc geyser]

*x -c
https://x.com/AboutMusicYT/status/1861311792497967354?s=19

[harsh dove]

@AboutMusicYT <t:1732606287:d>

A new bill, 'NewJeans/Hanni act', to protect artists and other special employees from workplace harassment has been proposed at the National Assembly.

[wind monolith]

Its so dumb but like i aint gonna lie that fandom is a copy paste so they were bound to copy the slogan

[hoary frost]

ngl i prefer it to be called Newjeans act instead of just Hanni

[zinc geyser]

It's so incredible that hanni bend the rules without hesitation.

I mean it's hard to have the government official attentions when it comes to this problems

[jolly junco]

AFAIK there are other idols who speak up about this matter before, but it didnt get much attention from the public thats why it got swept under the rug just like that

This feud between NJ+MHJ vs HYBE was garnered so much attention from the public for MONTHS until it reached the government (with the help of Team Bunnies of course)

[zinc geyser]

Basically because there just exceptions with comes to labor laws practice and requisites mean there are exceptions and this is just with multiple cases with this company

[heady gate]

what slogan?

[jolly junco]

newjeans never die

[wind monolith]

newjeans never die

[jolly junco]

not important, i think they are just trolling and mocking our fandom by doing that. just ignore them

[wind monolith]

I saw them complaining newjeans copying their dreamcore concept 😭😭😭

[heady gate]

b/c she is an Australian, who came to S Korea at age 15 without knowing the language. She is fearless.

Anyone can use that slogan. ABC never die or XYZ never die.

[zinc geyser]

And I feel grateful for the bunnies to support

[jolly junco]

Newjeans Hanni Law

[hoary frost]

how ironic that hybe tryna erase newjeans now that name is gonna haunt them forever when this law passes

[zinc geyser]

Is there another definition for this?

like with a term or something

[shy viper]

termination

[zinc geyser]

thanks

[heady gate]

Thanks to the BBC Japan news and BBS news coverage 2 days ago. The Korean government will pass the bill to enhance the country's reputation

[jolly junco]

the whole world are watching south korea

on a side note they really should change the law because there are sooooooooo many underage idols these days

[hoary frost]

lol i remember when they said their faves got a “backroom concept” like what even is that abt

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/backrooms-smiler-attack-jumpscare-gif-gif-25930658

[jolly junco]

i'm lost... what is a backroom concept?

[heady gate]

yea, what is frontroom vs backroom concept?

[wind monolith]

Its literally the gif a yellow endless room with monsters attacking u thats what backrooms is

[arctic swan]

Weirdcore

[wind monolith]

Idk how that fits the concept but ya

[jolly junco]

i just saw news that bighit changed their CEO today, are they trying to do damage control? Because if i'm not mistaken the former CEO filed a lawsuit against MHJ to back then

[hoary frost]

thats what im sayin lol feel bad for them tbh their fans are just too much

[jolly junco]

this year alone HYBE has changed 4 of their subsidiary CEO

[runic knoll]

Bye Bye Hybe. it was so nice to see your downfall after everything bad that you did to MHJ and the girls.

[short laurel]

Alot of things belift using can be done by anyone no problem. Problem is they keep doing those same things as nj again n again. It's little things but too many little things.

[cerulean lake]

it’s not truly over until someone summons that darn bang shi hyuk

he’s lucky he has government ties otherwise he would have been close to bring the second kim tae ho at the national assembly

[jolly junco]

i'm curious though how can he stay in US for that long? He's not a resident nor green card holder

[tawdry vessel]

$$$

[cerulean lake]

i have no idea but i don’t think they can’t forcibly kick him out unless the gov like forces him to come

but like i said his gov ties is what’s keeping him intact rn

[mild mist]

Maybe the trumpstaffel will deport him

[jolly junco]

*x -c https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1861395176729759933

[harsh dove]

@CakeDegg <t:1732626167:d>

Tomorrow, Bunshun will expose how TBS allegedly ‘pushed’ certain artists into the lineup for the Japan Record Awards

[jolly junco]

ohooo i cant wait for the tea

[short laurel]

i heard Bunshun isn't trustworthy. so lets research whatever they says be4 trusting their words. we not wanna spread misinfo.

[hushed whale]

ye theyre japanese tmz/dispatch

[short laurel]

also there's no guarantee they won't drag NJ.

[modern fog]

D-DAY

[hoary frost]

today 🙂‍↕️

[jolly junco]

They are super confident, i need them to spill what secret they are holding for them to be this confident meanwhile bunnies are so anxious and nervous

[zinc geyser]

Are they going to court or something?

[wind monolith]

Bro its d-day last day for ador to meet nj demand

[zinc geyser]

Now I can't sleep

[fluid edge]

me too

[strong stream]

So I noticed nwjns have a season greetings preorder date, I expected Hybe wouldn’t want to make anything for nwjns if they have this case? Or what’s

[jolly junco]

Why wouldnt they? Hybe needs money

Newjeans are their 3rd best selling group under HYBE, of course they would sell it

[strong stream]

Didn’t think about that

[hoary frost]

oh hybe the greedy scumbag you are

[hearty stone]

ima explode

[short laurel]

Dude wth. Twt stans are hating on the nj law just cuz it has nj name it.
It's not just companies but these stans who enable bullying cuz this is too messed up.

[rain spade]

https://imgur.com/a/4S9aZkD

[lofty compass]

Is they are staying?

[trim nebula]

when people are stressing about newjeans's future but im just chill tokki

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-my-new-character-gif-2777893510283028272

lol this emoji

[sly python]

is today the day we find out?

[red thorn]

Wow really? 'x never die' is just common catchphrase/expression

[twin cypress]

All that controversy over mistranslation lyrics in cookie just for that group to have the wildest most blatant lyrics for a group with two minors in it 😂

[short laurel]

alot of companies kpop songs lyrics are like that but no one bats an eye cuz they are not MHJ. cookie is a baby compared to them.

[twin cypress]

I want to see how someone like engine can defend this 😂

[short laurel]

majority of vocal engene actually hate belift alot. probably the only bsh produced group who are not company stan.

[short laurel]

tomorrow. today is last day ador got to fix things.

[hushed whale]

Also fraudor said they received the letter on the 14th so maybe we have to wait for 1 more day

[short laurel]

no 27th completes full 2 weeks counting 14th.

giving them 28th will make it 15 days.

[frosty echo]

thank tripleS for that

[short laurel]

slogan newjeans is everywhere. I hope this is not common in kpop?

[frosty echo]

well, there is a statement stray kids everywhere all around the world you make stray kids stay

[short laurel]

That's a different slogan with the same meaning so it doesn't count

[hushed whale]

oh ye so prob in the next 12 hours ig

[short laurel]

24h. It's 27th early morning in korea.

Should get news on 28th.

[red thorn]

The fact that nj used it in response to their dying practice during Super Shy choreo practice (they claim) it's just common expression

There was i-dle's I never die

[blazing sky]

i think the first time i heard _ never die is "technoblade never dies" which is not kpop at all but still

its just a ytber but it was yeaaaars ago

[short laurel]

So i assume nj own this one ?

Since koreans used it alot of nj

[red thorn]

Others maybe jump the bandwagon using those same expression words but I don't think it's right to claim 'we own it'

[short laurel]

I not mean like that. I meant like did nj fandom used it 1st in kpop

[red thorn]

Hmm not sure, I don't know who do it first
Not that it matters imo

[brazen ice]

girls never die - triples
i never die - gidle
legends never die - against the current
these ones i remember lmao

[hearty stone]

HEROES NEVER DIE

https://tenor.com/view/heroes-never-die-overwatch-heal-gif-18343561

[hoary frost]

still the goat

[frozen bronze]

this never die stuff doesnt originate from anywhere near kpop

[buoyant hamlet]

[short lynx]

Gosh

[jolly junco]

The date on the legal notice submitted are dated November 13th, so no matter what they said it will end officialy after 14 days

[waxen musk]

ADOR still has today to respond, right? And if they do, I wonder which specific time.

[hearty stone]

https://tenor.com/view/death-skelly-move-ball-gif-18688511

[sly python]

if nobody responds, technically NJ's is free?

[jolly junco]

No, NJ still need to file for termination and wait for the court date to happen

Oh hey i know you, you’re the guy who live stream before the tokyo dome happened! The one who gave out snoopy stickers with MHJ outfit

[sly python]

dat me

i miss NJ's :(

[hoary frost]

oh wow gdragon liked mhj post

gdragon my goat 🔥

[steel depot]

dday

[grim hatch]

[steep torrent]

never heard about that

[jolly junco]

people just cant accept the truth that she's loved by her colleague

[tawdry vessel]

dont glaze or damien will come in

[heady gate]

it is 11am kst

[cosmic bison]

Predicted

[jolly junco]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1861599689105383709

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1732674927:d>

“Do you think NewJeans will immediately push for the termination of their exclusive contract?

If I were NewJeans’ legal representative, I would advise them as follows: “At this point, issuing a termination notice carries significant legal and financial risks. Instead of proceeding with termination immediately, it would be better to observe further developments (such as the investigation and civil lawsuits related to Min Hee-jin) and, before making a final decision, explore various possibilities by negotiating with HYBE through a representative.”

However, considering the fact that the NewJeans members recently sent a formal notice to ADOR mentioning contract termination with a 14-day deadline, along with their recent related remarks, the general view in the market seems to lean towards the likelihood of them filing for a provisional injunction to suspend the validity of the exclusive contract.

What are your thoughts on this? In any case, since both outcomes are possible, it seems prudent to wait a few more days to monitor the situation before producing the next content on this matter.”

-Atty. Kho Sang-rok

[half knot]

contract termination doesn't always have to be the way LOONA girls (especiallly Chuu) did it, about harm and unfair and unenforceable and perhaps downright illegal clauses

sometimes they are just technical details in some clause of the contract that requires certain pre-requisites that need to be fulfilled before secondary clauses kick in and then comes filing for termination and getting it granted.

lawyers are good at finding those sometimes unintentional loopholes

and based on Katalk screenshots HYBE released, MHJ and her people have been poking and proding around that contract for more than a year trying to find such things.

[hoary frost]

Is it not possible they just terminate with money and idk dip?

[frozen bronze]

do you know how much that costs

[runic knoll]

everything is not cheap

[nocturne epoch]

Yo someone let me know what ish appening with newjeans

[steel depot]

as of now we're just waiting for something/update with hybe meeting njs demand or not

[nocturne epoch]

oh

[tardy smelt]

in a nutshell if you're not updated: they're on bad terms with HYBE, their original team is fractured so everything major they've been working on is on hold, so they're seeking to terminate their contracts and rebuild to return to the way things were before April

[nocturne epoch]

i know they dobnt like hybe

so like they will have to start from scratch

[tardy smelt]

somewhat, if they decide not to fight for their IP

[half knot]

nobody here knows that

we don't know the details of their contracts at all, people forget that Ador is who the girls signed with, and Ador until June 2024 was entirely composed of MHJ and her own people, and they are the ones who formulated the contracts for the girls, in theory

[heady gate]

It is 1:21pm kst. HYBE is too quiet

[sweet pebble]

hmmm

[wind monolith]

no mediaplay from what i seen so far

https://tenor.com/view/something-smells-fishy-fishy-smell-gif-22932931

[hoary frost]

not related to the update but this thread is funny

"Good" Do they know?

[steel depot]

yep, might as well just let them go peacefully just give this to newjeans hybe... but i doubt this will be a peaceful exit...

[jolly junco]

IJBOL 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[steel depot]

😂

[hoary frost]

hoping for a new hybe ceo and got a new bighit ceo. its better than nothing

[steel depot]

i think they've changed them just recently?

[hoary frost]

obvious DEI hire

[hoary frost]

plus they might tryna avoid the hybe leak affecting bts cuz all executives recieved it which means the old CEO got it and stayed silent abt it

[boreal laurel]

their hatred for the girls are so deep they have gone full conservative and are now anti workers rights thats crazy 😭 😂

[waxen musk]

Why would they want workers rights when they don’t work themselves.

It’s too quiet so far today.

[wind monolith]

fr way too quiet

[jolly junco]

no matter how many times i read this, this is too funny 😂 😂 oh dear lord

[steel depot]

enablers things

[tawdry vessel]

these people are so quick to hashtags #apologizetoblahblah but they complain when there's a bill to protect the artists

[sweet pebble]

🤣🤣

they js b saying anything without thinking about it😭😭

[sonic meadow]

Today is November 27th

[hoary frost]

i think this specific breed of armies dont even like bts atp 🤔

[lucid yarrow]

A-S-A-P, baby Hurry up, don't say maybe Tik-tok, tik-tok, tik-tok, tik, tik

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/alldoorsoneroom/status/1861651441104110029?t=BfhUijXuen36SAPl5RkMYA&s=19

ADOR (@alldoorsoneroom) on X

*이 입장문은 아티스트의 내용증명에 따른 조치사항의 이행입니다.

안녕하세요. 어도어입니다.

2024. 10. 7. 빌리프랩은 빌리프랩 X 계정과 ‘알려드립니다’를 통하여 ‘매니저 무시 발언’과 관련된 입장문을 발표한 바 있습니다. 어도어는 자칫 사실관계의 공방이 어도어 소속 아티스트에 대한

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 6:01 AM

They final shielding newjeans??

[modern fog]

[tawdry vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-gif-25799821

[pastel umbra]

what's the point of changing their stance now?

[cinder verge]

im confused

[waxen musk]

erm... that's it? what exactly does it achieve

[hoary frost]

Ask fraudor

[waxen musk]

i think it's a bit late fake ador

[cinder verge]

what are they tryna say/do

[tardy smelt]

leaving it to the last day to check the boxes to meet the demands

[tiny peak]

no judge is dumb enough to fall for this

[waxen musk]

i mean it barely checks one box. i wouldnt say it even checks that box at all

[mild mist]

I didn't even think that they would bother to do that much

[waxen musk]

weird

[mild mist]

I thought they were going to do absolutely nothing and call newjeans' bluff

[hoary frost]

Whr is namiko vous and cakejuiceandbread, i need those debaters here

[waxen musk]

surely this wont be it for today right?

[jolly junco]

Adore and its members completely trust what our artist says and are truly sorry for the damage that Hani has suffered.

[tiny peak]

they didn't even really demand anything of Belift, so dumb

[modern fog]

we need a ping for regular people here

[jolly junco]

what a load of BS

[cinder verge]

u got that jhin

[waxen musk]

Literally just “we believe Hanni on this one point” and that’s it. No action being taken or plan.

[hoary frost]

No need vous here now waiting namiko and cakejuicenbread to join this lobby

[modern fog]

I'm just kidding too

[tiny peak]

NJ was clear they wanted an apology, and they deserve nothing less

[hoary frost]

I can smell a good debate , just uhm idk control it before some random joins to make it unhinged

[cinder verge]

remember bj juice

[hoary frost]

No thats a pointless one , i am referring to the older days

[jolly junco]

that statement doesnt fix anything, at all

[waxen musk]

And why today of all days lol

[fluid edge]

what happened i just woke up

[wind monolith]

aint no fkin wayt

[cinder verge]

ador asked belift to apologize to hanni about the manager telling people to ignore her but it was bs

[wind monolith]

NO FKIN WAY THEY R DOING THIS SHIT

[pastel umbra]

it kinda just says that they hope belift acts better? did i read that correctly, like not even requesting an apology to hanni or something

[hushed whale]

14 days for a tweet

[wind monolith]

they sent this so if nj try termination they could show this

[hoary frost]

lol they need still to prove that they actually made an effort this statement wont hold anything

[wind monolith]

but this does nothing belift didnt apologize this is ador just saying bs

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/cakedegg/status/1861654507412955188?s=46

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

This statement appears to support Hanni, but it provides neither investigation results nor a clear action plan. Issuing a statement at the last moment without taking substantial steps comes across as insincere. As the agency responsible for the artist, shouldn’t you actively

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 6:13 AM

[heady gate]

It is like left hand talking to a right hand.

[waxen musk]

They said it better than I could

[split bramble]

its a nothing statement, they've done or said nothing to help hanni here

[wind monolith]

bro nj terminate that contract man

[hoary frost]

lol imagine 1200am on the dot

@modern fog the avengers assembled

[shy schooner]

Took them that long just for that statement

[jolly junco]

bah they're just saying things to make them look a bit "better" but they're actually not doing ANYTHING for Hanni in this case

[wind monolith]

im tired of this shit

[heady gate]

took 14 days for a tweet

[lucid yarrow]

if i was a teacher im giving them an f for handing it in so late

[wind monolith]

they just saying oh belift i hope u understand and thats it

[hoary frost]

plus this aint the only demand

[ocean arch]

Too little too late

[wind monolith]

get that fkin shit out of my face fraudor

[shy schooner]

No action just words do not count

[ocean arch]

Belift CEO already said hanni was lying . Where were they then?

[tiny peak]

exactly, whether they believe Hanni or not, it doesn't matter if there's no action or plan for action

[waxen musk]

This has nothing to do with Hanni. This is to help ADOR even a tiny bit legally in the courts in the future. It sure won’t do much for them though.

[wind monolith]

nj said to make belift apologize no and investigate.

[cinder verge]

will the courts fall for this bs

[wind monolith]

this is just fkin words. im acc so pissed cuz this is some bullshit

[waxen musk]

I’d almost wish they didn’t even bother

Funny people

[hushed whale]

lets wait to see if they gonna address other issues

[wheat raft]

last ditch attempt to get newjeans to stay

[stiff prairie]

ador statement?

[tiny peak]

they need to address plagiarism too, this is so weak

[stiff prairie]

it takes 2 weeks to put out empty words for them lol they coulda said this on day1 and nothing would change still

[wheat raft]

its so fleeting

[tiny peak]

also need to address the Belift YouTube video, there's so much more

[hoary frost]

Ah yes cakejuiceandbread is here the avengers are really now all here

[wind monolith]

the statement has nothing about further stuff to fix stuff its just words chatgpt ahh statement

[jolly junco]

its not even worth to discuss that bullshit announcement

[wheat raft]

maybe they just want to show they tried, so newjeans will find it harder to terminate?

lol wouldnt be surprised if fraudor ceo and belift coo collab to come up with that statement

[hoary frost]

Its just for public appearances

[wind monolith]

chatgpt plz make an announcement about a member being ignored but make it sound like we r apologizing but at the same time we aint doing shit

[fluid edge]

So, what’s next? do we have to wait for nj to release a statement?

[jolly junco]

they cant even proven how they "tried" to help Hanni in this case

[stiff prairie]

we all know who has the final say on these statements from them

[jolly junco]

NOTHING is changed after that statement from fraudor

[wind monolith]

they didnt its just saying oh i trust hanni now

[waxen musk]

Btw I think this is proof we’ll probably have to wait for tomorrow for the girls to say anything at the earliest. They’re giving ADOR today to give final statements.

[stiff prairie]

not to give statements

to take actions

[tiny peak]

does anyone have a nice summary or reference of all the ways HYBE failed NJ? it's so hard to keep track

[hoary frost]

well they needed to wait till the end of 14th day regardless

[wind monolith]

i made one before let me see if i can find it

[jolly junco]

waste of time

[wind monolith]

#1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

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from the_zar_ar

this was something i wrote before but im def missing stuff
Newjeans evidence against hybe:

• Hanni incident manager (hanni also has recordings of fake ceo)
• Shin woo seok old videos getting taken down (he also has recordings)
• Hybe downplaying newjeans sales in Japan
• Hybe calling to end newjeans in the internal report
• leaked videos from source music.
• belift plagarism
• hybe employees on blind downplaying newjeans
• Sabotaging LV deal
  [Jump to message](#1231839760759263232 message)

[wheat raft]

i hope newjeans get out of hybe man 😭😭😭

[red thorn]

Somehow I knew this anticlimactic response would be the outcome

[wheat raft]

pleaseee i will fund the new agency with my salary

[tiny peak]

thank you, I can't wait to see her stupid excuses in court

[wind monolith]

nj wouldnt be able to do anything tdy cuz 2 weeks r over once 27th ends

[jolly junco]

bah this fraudor really waste everyone's time

UGH can't wait for when NJ finally terminated their contract, i will lit a lots of fireworks to celebrate

[hoary frost]

NAHHH

[hoary frost]

Will be expecting a clip of tat

lol its funny but belift ceo can make an interview abt how clearly they on the right and asking Hanni to apologize but fraudor can only say they didn’t really know what happend

[fluid edge]

i don’t understand is this good or bad ?

[hoary frost]

its nonsense lol

[jolly junco]

its an absolute bullshit

[wind monolith]

just words that have no meaning

[jolly junco]

sigh goin' back to watch my tv series, nothing important has been announced so far

[normal marlin]

this statement doesn't make sense to me omg am i slow

[fluid edge]

So, I waited two weeks just for them to release a nonsense statement?

[wind monolith]

ur not the only one

[ashen charm]

Don't believe adors last ditch effort

[jolly junco]

they're just saying that they "trust Hanni fully in this matter" but dont want to take action or anything to fully support her

bullshit statement

[hoary frost]

ima let this cook for a min cuz i know this will only backfire against hybe

[tiny peak]

bro, Belift called Hanni a liar, and this is the best they can do for her?

[fluid edge]

So, what do we do now? Wait again?

[jolly junco]

wait for Newjeans to say something, thats all

[fluid edge]

tomorrow?

[hoary frost]

knetz already cooking them for the first sentence lol they said it just confirmed that they only did it bcuz of newjeans letter

[ashen charm]

Newjeans gone

[wind monolith]

https://twitter.com/TokkiLoops/status/1861661507815420100

. (@TokkiLoops) on X

“😑”

#NewJeans #뉴진스
#Hanni #하니

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 6:41 AM

[cinder verge]

hanni knows its some bullshit

[wind monolith]

hanni not having their shit

[fluid edge]

Hanni must be tired

[stiff prairie]

lmao sb drop the hanni sassy reaction to kjy gif from the NA

[cinder narwhal]

disband time?

[unborn jewel]

leave, not disband 😭

[waxen musk]

lol Hanni

[red thorn]

"tired of this sh*t" emote

[short laurel]

But a bs news today.

[hoary frost]

lol i know they cant wait till this day is over

[wheat raft]

summary

[jolly junco]

LOL

[short laurel]

Waited 14 days to give an empty statement. N doesn't mean that lady admitted to lying in NA?

[jolly junco]

Just LOL

Even Hanni is tired with their lies

[stiff prairie]

i'm not bothered cause pretty sure court won't see last minute statement as enough necessary action to correct contract breaches

[wind monolith]

her statement at the na contradicts what she is saying now

crazy how they thought it was a good idea

[short laurel]

While this lawyer has been decent. The words "negotiating with hybe" after girls give them so many chances, this lawyer lost any trust we had on him. Cuz why would they after all this, they already waited way too long.

[swift spire]

So whats gonna happen now

[wind monolith]

wait for nj reply

[waxen musk]

Nothing has changed

[ashen charm]

Newjeans termination doesn't equal disband there still under hybe just not ador

[cinder narwhal]

??? theyre not under ador but under hybe? that sounds like misinfo

[stiff prairie]

ador is 80% hybe wym

well 100% soon

[swift spire]

Yeah that doesnt make sense lol whats the point if they would still be under hybe

[short laurel]

On paper they should be under ador

[jolly junco]

😑😑😑 new favorite emoticon

[cinder narwhal]

read what i replied to.

[swift spire]

Ador is basically hybe now that mhj has left

[short laurel]

Yea but what's important is not all that but whats written on the contract n it should be ador Not hybe.

[jolly junco]

If they proceed with the termination they will be free agent after the court grant them, they wont be under ador or hybe

[fluid edge]

I can’t wait any longer. I just want them out of that company. I waited two whole weeks just for this 😭😭

[jolly junco]

dont worry, they will

soon

[ashen charm]

What if hybe sues them for breach of contract since they have 5 years left

[stiff prairie]

but if hybe is nowhere in the contracts that would mean they were never under hybe anyways no?

[jolly junco]

you think ADOR/HYBE havent breach their contract towards NJ first?

[short laurel]

Yup. But We don't know their contract. N we know hybe contracts are weird

[jolly junco]

NJ are allowed to terminate their contract if ADOR/HYBE breach the contract, thats why they are doing this now

[short laurel]

Nj still nj until court grands termination which will take long time.

[swift spire]

Hybe has to be in the contract since ador is under hybe. Thats why all NJs music videos are released on Hybe channel

[jolly junco]

THIS says a lot about their decision in terminating contract or not

[waxen musk]

lol the timing with the SG posts

[stiff prairie]

i think they'll do a preliminary injuction first which should take 3 months at most

main one will take 1-2 yrs

[ashen charm]

Knowing hybes excuses track record it could be up to a year

[wind monolith]

https://twitter.com/talytokki/status/1861664162054619163

taly (@talytokki) on X

ador legit went down the list of newjeans’ demands, played eenie meenie minie moe, logged on twitter and wrote a half ass statement and pressed ‘post’ 😭😭😭

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 6:51 AM

[short laurel]

That's a contract between labels. Not artists?

[short laurel]

For main suit yea, injunction is much shorter n it only allows freedom to work while main suit is still ongoing.

[jolly junco]

Bruh why should we care whether their contract are under ador/hybe

the point is they will leave that ass company SOON

[short laurel]

They are making comments about it idk...

[swift spire]

😑

[wind monolith]

😑

[jolly junco]

Fave emoticon for this year

[half knot]

that is such an unserious statement and somewhat backhandedly victim blaming

and it is only coming out to fulfill some kind of contractual clause that was triggered by the certified letter

they didn't even try to seem genuine.

[red thorn]

They just creating alibi

[swift spire]

They were giving “oops deadline tmr gotta finish this quick”

[wind monolith]

hanni literally said she didnt care when she first brought it up

like how r u now coming and saying oh we as ador care

[half knot]

right on the deadline of the requests for corrections through the certified letter

very unserious and not at all genuine, only for the courts and contract obligations in a technical sense

[swift spire]

Now im wondering how theyre still gonna work as Newjeans while waiting for all the future court work and without mhj there

[waxen musk]

i mean the whole team hasnt left just yet. they still practicing choreo for their performances in japan in a few days. - just dont expect special performances, just basic ones

[half knot]

they'll likely continue to fulfill their booked obligations such as performances and stages, brand deal related stuff and so on, but I doubt we're getting anything new from them musically or otherwise while this goes on

this has clearly become untenable for both sides but especially for the girls

[swift spire]

I’m hoping they have already finished the full album before mhj left and would still be releasing it as planned

[wind monolith]

no not happening

[waxen musk]

they specifically said it's not happening.

[wind monolith]

they will not give hybe any more money and the album was paused

[swift spire]

Oh…

[half knot]

HYBE's going through their 18 months hiatus plan as they had stated basically

[wind monolith]

i genuinely thing they were saying 3 year but nj were gonna be put in the basement. they were never finding a grammy producer all cap

[half knot]

that's also roughly how long the first stage of a contract termination lawsuit might take if they don't get injunctions within 3 months

they have demonstrably shown that they want to diminish both NewJeans and Ador's value, this is just part of their process

[steel depot]

where is it? what did they say???

[steel depot]

that's it??

[wind monolith]

Yeppp

[steel depot]

nothing about ultimatum? they keep recycling effff

still victim blaming... clear evidence that they don't really care about hanni and newjeans...

[jolly junco]

and this is how hanni answer fraudor statement

[half knot]

in one of the news articles, they said the rest of the response will come tomorrow since they released the letter one day later and deadline would be 28th

[steel depot]

yup she's done with that fake hr specialist

[swift spire]

They really just worked on this this morning 😭

Being given 14 whole damn days and this is what they have

[hoary frost]

hanni damage... u brought this to yourself brudda

[half knot]

because they don't care, they are just fulfilling contractual obligations not actually genuinely caring about addressing the concerns

if they actually cared or were genuinely trying to find a way to resolve this, it would have never come to this stage anyway

[hoary frost]

newjeans joining a new label under YG entertainment and get their ip back MANIFESTATION

[half knot]

ah yes from one horrible company to another possibly much worse one.

[swift spire]

They would prob join one that MHJ works for or better yet owns

[sleek crest]

hi anybody have a summary of what changed today?

a statement or sth..

[hoary frost]

newjeans creating their own label and get their ip back NEW MANIFESTATION

[boreal laurel]

newjeans joining bbc would be crazy

😭

[hoary frost]

honestly im excited to see if they actually redebut as a global group

[boreal laurel]

im confident the girls will come out of this stronger and even better

so many other groups have had such worse case scenarios or even negative public rep and have survived

newjeans will go down in history as the industry jailbreakers!

loona walked so newjeans could run 🍝

they will singlehandedly start 5th gen

the great catalyst

[hoary frost]

this might be unrelated but have yall seen the english tiktak lyrics im pissed at how their fans responded they say theyre ignorning that version hence the low streams but like aren’t they gonna called out those scums who let it be released just like how they did with MHJ

[cerulean lake]

not ador doing this so they could save face or smth

i’m sorry but posting that on the day before their time is up does not pose as anything sincere 🤣

[slender jungle]

its a loud minority, its ur fault for getting pissed lmfao

like maybe try to ignore shit instead of getting triggered by every little thing

[hoary frost]

loud minority lol okay

[slender jungle]

ive seen many more of their fans calling out belift and the producers than those just saying theyre "ignoring the version"

broaden ur scope

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/peaky-blinders-no-fighting-no-fucking-fighting-fight-fuck-gif-16259749058826278291

[hoary frost]

well ive seen more of the other one and tokkis calling them out for not worrying about their faves

[slender jungle]

think about it this way
ur tl is more curated towards the tokki fanbase so ofc ud get more of that kind

mine is basically equal in terms of content from both sides

[wheat raft]

https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1861642349652414659

wow, an agency actually protecting their artists

meanwhile fraudoor is blind when it comes to sniper and jjinjjins

. (@NJBUBBLEGUM) on X

VLAST, PLAVE's agency, has successfully identified and filed a lawsuit against @my_kpointt3.
She has also spread numerous malicious rumors targeting NewJeans.

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 5:24 AM

[boreal laurel]

remember that time wonyoung took down an infamous dramatuber

[cerulean lake]

i need that sean lim mfer to go too

[boreal laurel]

its wild to know now that dramatuber has associations with hybe

[slender jungle]

sojang xd

[cerulean lake]

seoulite tv aka sean lim claims he graduated from stanford and he’s spending all his time making hate vids abt them 🤣🤣 that’s the definition of jobless

[boreal laurel]

bruh his thumbnails are always so cringely smug

like he intentionally gave himself a stock image vibe

[hoary frost]

lol i know how algo works i just said im pissed at that thing and now u assume my feed is like that and im pissed at everything i see🫠

[modern fog]

enough y'all

[slender jungle]

bruh ur inhere all the time defending the girls knowing about every little thing why wouldnt ur tl be curated that way lmfao

whatever im done

[boreal laurel]

i dont even know what yall fighting about

[jolly junco]

where is that cute dog picture

[cerulean lake]

ikr like plz i don’t want to see ur u*ly face

jumpscare everytime

[boreal laurel]

what got you so pressed thats crazy

[cerulean lake]

nah i hated him since he made a h*ng joke abt them

[slender jungle]

oh i just think its a bit weird that this is a mhj/hybe discussion space and this guy just starts talking about illits song

[hoary frost]

lol u the one with the passive aggressive reply and now u actin nonchalant lol

[wheat raft]

how does defamation laws work anyway

other than sojang and a rare few, i hardly see the misinformation spreaders get put to justice

[modern fog]

[hearty stone]

[gentle badger]

[sweet pebble]

[wind monolith]

[hoary frost]

[cosmic belfry]

[steel depot]

[ornate vine]

[hearty stone]

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

if no news on the 28th whats next

[half knot]

nothing ever happens when you expect it to happen

even if they decide to file for termination or petition for an injunction, it might take days or weeks after their deadline given on the certified letter

[jolly junco]

Chill tokkis

[zinc geyser]

[heady gate]

yesterday, Hybe released their tweet at 4pm kst. Currently, it is 9:30am kst. We have to wait

[wheat raft]

*x -c https://x.com/phamkuromi/status/1861310970020393450?s=46&t=nArScn1nuDKKLyO-F5UGKg

[harsh dove]

@Phamkuromi <t:1732606091:d>

GD also posted a picture of his cat along with one of NewJeans's good, Bunini in April. 👀

[marsh sorrel]

In april🤔

[wind monolith]

https://twitter.com/zkfxhL/status/1861930661294358645

RUNnies (@zkfxhL) on X

오늘 내용증명 요구사항에 대한 어도어의 추가 입장문이나 빌리프랩 입장문이 나오면 기사가 많이 뜰겁니다
추비추 관리 잘 하시고 팩트 위주로 댓관 바랍니다🙇🏻‍♀️

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한국경제 11/28(목) 9:26 김수영기자
어도어 ＂하니 주장 신뢰＂…'최후통첩 D-DAY' 뉴진스 선택은?
https://t.co/FQkwiyY0sY

Twitter · Nov 28, 2024, 12:30 AM

There will be a lot of articles about Adore's additional statement on the content certification requirements or Belief Lab's statement today.
Please take good care of your Chubichu and give your comments based on facts 🙇🏻‍♀️

Comment window O
Korea Economic Daily 11/28 (Thu) 9:26 Reporter Kim Soo-young
Adore "I trust Honey's claim"... What will New Jeans choose on 'Ultimatum D-DAY'?

[cosmic bison]

[lucid yarrow]

[jolly junco]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[tall dew]

[steel depot]

folding all things i can fold right now giving all the luck to newjeans future ✨

[heady gate]

I believe Hybe will release a statement after stock market closed.

[cerulean lake]

when will that be

[fading forge]

[heady gate]

Korean market will close in 3.5 hours

[wind monolith]

ador last time released it after market closed too right?

[heady gate]

correct

[tawdry vessel]

[orchid field]

conniving ahh fake ador

[sleek crest]

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-give-me-something-good-gif-9384852

[stiff prairie]

did hybe disband yet?

[jolly junco]

they will the moment BSH set foot in South Korea

[stiff prairie]

big bro's not in SK yet? sb tell him NA ain't hunting him down anymore lmao

[jolly junco]

he's staying in LA since early this year 🤣 like a fugitive

idk how he can stay for that long in US without green card

[stiff prairie]

business visa ig

SK prolly has to extradite him to get him to come home

[heady gate]

It is 2:17pm kst. anything yet?

[jolly junco]

nope

[heady gate]

Market will close at 3:30pm kst

[jolly junco]

i'm refreshing the qoo hot category every 30minutes, but nothing new about NJ

[wind monolith]

Nj should terminate before going to japan

[steel depot]

only newjeans

[jolly junco]

even my twitter timeline is very quiet the last 1 hour this never happened before

[wind monolith]

At least yesterday they were kind of active on phoning

Fraudor got us locked in on this shit

[waxen musk]

why do we think we'll have to wait until market closes?

i'm sure if hybe/ador wants to say anything it makes some sense
but if the girls want to say anything i dont get why they'd need to wait until a specific time today
i say if we dont get it in like a couple of hours maybe they'll wait days for some activities to be over and them to be less busy
who knows. i'm getting impatient lol

[jolly junco]

same 😭 even though i just tweeted "Waiting patiently for Newjeans"
But i cant help it to refresh theqoo every few minutes

hoping for something, anything

[flint stone]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1862010659103474005?t=viojY3n692UY6rEK6y7iIg&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

HYBE’s Controversies: A Timeline (HYBE'S SINS)

짧은시간에 너무 많은일이 일어나서 하나하나 기억하기도 힘든 하이브의 죄악.txt
https://t.co/4wTq2Ihw0r

1. 2020:

Allegations that Source Music’s girl group concept was unlawfully borrowed from Min Hee-jin’s proposal:

March: Source

Twitter · Nov 28, 2024, 5:48 AM

[waxen musk]

wtf that's the longest twitter post ive ever seen

[jolly junco]

its the complete timeline for MHJ vs HYBE

[stiff prairie]

i think they're going to wait a few days to see if ador actually takes some actions that'd reflect the words of their prev statement?

[jolly junco]

i'm getting restless

[waxen musk]

that's what the 14 days were for tho

like surely their time is up. if they wanna change now AFTER the 14 days then isnt it too late lol

[jolly junco]

i dont think so? the legal notice clearly states that 14 days is the deadline, and they are not doing anything even after 14 days (i mean no literal action for NJ demand)

[waxen musk]

after 14 days up and none of their demands are met they said they'll file to terminate their contracts. it's pretty simple. why we're waiting... i'm so curious to know why. they already said what their plan was.

whatever is going on secretly right now i hope it only benefits them

[jolly junco]

yeah something must be brewing right now

[waxen musk]

waht time was ador's thing yesterday exactly?

[jolly junco]

after this status update, i dont think they will stay in ADOR

[waxen musk]

i wish the mods pinned stuff in here

[jolly junco]

if you see something that need to be pinned you can tag jhin on the said message

[waxen musk]

probably just ador's message yesterday for now should be pinned. cant remember the rest. also wont matter soon lol.

[jolly junco]

yesterday ador's statement happened around this time

maybe we'll get something pretty soon

[waxen musk]

if not by like 7pm them i give up lol

[stiff prairie]

they could be giving ador benifit of doubt for a couple days. heard loona/gfriend (forgot which one) that got court ruling against them because of not giving the company enough time

[waxen musk]

we already know the result. i just wanna hear them talk about it in a statement. on both sides. wanna know what they have to say more than wanting to wait for the inevitable

[stiff prairie]

but yeah 14 days are up and they should be fine legally

[waxen musk]

that's what the 14 days were for (multiple times). loona didnt even do that

[jolly junco]

thats why NJ submitted a legal notice and give them 14 days, they dont have to wait again after 14 days

NJ is doing everything by the book so ADOR cant hold them legally at court later, NJ lawyer team did their job

[stiff prairie]

ok i just remembered ador said that day around noon that they didn't recieve anything

maybe hybe's time is up but not ador?

[jolly junco]

i dont think its actually matter that much? Since the date on the legal notice clearly state November 13th?

[waxen musk]

notice was sent on 13th, received 14th.

[stiff prairie]

anyways time to go chilltokki again till tomorrow i don't think we're getting anything today

[waxen musk]

Just wait like 2 more hours max before giving up lol

[flint stone]

Things might happening already and we just don't know, they won't stay at hybe anyway, so today or tomorrow doesn't really matter

[jolly junco]

There is nothing on theqoo, if something did happen there will be articles about it on theqoo/naver at least

[waxen musk]

i say all this but i think the waiting is just making me anxious that there's some twist or surprise coming

like imagine they agree to work with ador after all this. i literally cant imagine it. but it's the type of thing i think of when waiting

[jolly junco]

Tbh i dont see a future/world where they will stay with HYBE but yeah thats just “my world”

[flint stone]

They don't like to play golf?

[hoary frost]

Getting the foreshadowing that Nwjns might stay

[waxen musk]

the girls have been visibly happy recently so i hope it stays that way

[heady gate]

It is 4pm kst. Nothing yet?

[jolly junco]

nothing

[modern fog]

statement so bs i forgot to pin it

[wind monolith]

I woke up too nothing wow

[shy schooner]

Will come soon

[jolly junco]

maybe they cant go to the court to submit their termination because of the super heavy snow that happens in korea right now (i'm trying so hard to be positive here)

[waxen musk]

aparantly dani is doing a celine appearance today and they should be in japan for tomorrow so i was thinking maybe they'll fly out today too but maybe not, who knows. they might just literally be too busy to do anything.

also yeah the snow is BAD

i'm gonna stop expecting anything for today

[jolly junco]

there is a heavy snows in korea right now that causes roofs, traffic light even trees to fall down

[waxen musk]

yeah worst snow in >100 years or somethig right

[jolly junco]

i think its pre-recorded for japan show

[waxen musk]

i dont know. either way if the 29th thing is prerecorded they still need to be there for the 30th and a little while after that too

i'm gonna try to forget about all this...

[jolly junco]

Ughh i give up, i’m gonna go and read my novel. There better be something new when i come back

[unborn jewel]

why i kinda get the feeling that it was mostly gonna be silent today

but nah im probably gonna wake up to something surely

[heady gate]

zzzzzzzzzzz

[gleaming scarab]

[hoary frost]

adors statement so ass the contract termination deadline got delayed

😑

[gentle badger]

[tiny peak]

[hoary frost]

[hearty stone]

Huhh

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-skeleton-skeleton-tweaking-skull-tweaking-skull-gif-16139677173214617594

[opaque torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY3VyjefsPg

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/njbubblegum/status/1862059656316846398?s=46

[narrow seal]

241128 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1862059656316846398
[BREAKING]
NewJeans to hold press conference at 20:30 (KST)
https://www.ichannela.com/news/main/news_detailPage.do?publishId=000000447507

[opaque torrent]

2 hours from now

[jolly junco]

OMG

[jolly junco]

@waxen musk wake up!! @zealous verge

[orchid field]

oh man

[hoary frost]

2 more hours

[buoyant hamlet]

i guess im not going to sleep tonight for another few hours

[steel depot]

omg here we go

[rain spade]

woahh press conference ?

[buoyant hamlet]

Does anyone know where it's going to be broadcasted?

[jolly junco]

i'm sure loops will share it later

the longest 2 hours in my life

[buoyant hamlet]

same

at least the zine will help pass some time

[hoary frost]

See you again everyone

[jolly junco]

thats why they've been so quiet today 😭

[neon igloo]

Let's all calm down and wait patiently

[buoyant hamlet]

[waxen musk]

Oh wow. Thanks. I was actually sleeping

[jolly junco]

PRAY BUNNIES PRAYYYY

[unborn jewel]

"it was a prank ha gottem"

"nj1 release tomorrow"

[fluid edge]

😔

[waxen musk]

It was all a dream

[jolly junco]

you can sleep again but set your alarm

[waxen musk]

Yep i am. Don’t ping me lol

[hoary frost]

oh shit its happening

[hushed whale]

[heady gate]

Some of you might need this now.

[steel depot]

my anxiety is through the roof rn and I just had coffee. but something is telling me tonight is the night we've been waiting for in a positive way.

[heady gate]

blood pressure increased

[shy schooner]

At least they will have lawyers with them hopefully

[steel depot]

they will