NJZ Updates and Discussion

[neon igloo]

Agreed. Maybe HYBE will completely change their stance at the last moment and meet all of NewJeans' demands. We don’t know what the future holds, but we do know for 100% that all the members are okay and constantly support each other, and that’s the most important thing for us as fans

[bronze jetty]

and that’s why i’m happy, they want to stay together and i know they will

[dry wind]

sooo early into their careers too

pretty awesome to see them be so vocal

[neon igloo]

I don’t know what’s best for them. I’ll just accept any decision they make because they know better than me what they need. Even if I have to wait a year for their album or if we only get dance performance videos instead of full music videos. As a fan of their talent and personalities, it doesn’t matter to me what kind of visual is in the background

The visual presentation from the NewJeans team right now is absolutely incredible. I just mean that even without massive budgets for a music video, their work will still be amazing

[heady gate]

Cookie has great footwork. Most K-pop gg don't use as much footwork performance as bg. NJ is different.

[sweet pebble]

the brands love newjeans more than hybe i wonder what they will do after nj leaves hybe

[heady gate]

Here is the relationship between NJ to brands collaboration to consumers to Hybe Corp.

[sweet pebble]

ah so theyll reach out to nj i guess

[vapid turret]

NJ will sign on with some other company and they'll finally be treated with respect all while coming back bigger than ever and even becoming the next blackpink to the point where HYBE will be begging them to come back.

[heady gate]

Would u work for a company that managed by bullies? There are over 6,000 registered entertainment companies in the Comprehensive Information System for Popular Culture and Arts.

[lucid yarrow]

hybe should stick to making games they have all the ex talent...

[vapid turret]

I said some other company can't you read?

[heady gate]

This video created on March 2024. He was correct. NJ became the face of South Korea.

[sweet pebble]

an hybe js scrapped their opportunity to become the label behind the face of south korea

[jolly junco]

hahah if you know f(x) they are 1 of the gg who use footwork as much as boygroup, again MHJ influenced

atp i really really reallyyyyyy want NJ and MHJ create their own company rather than them signed up with an established company

[lyric geyser]

@lean barn 27th is the deadline the girls gave to HYBE to apply their demands before ending their contracts

[lean barn]

Oh wait

The hand is on newjeans not hybe.. Ah alr, thats less concerning.

[hoary frost]

why do hybe stans think they will get a cut from the termination fee like “oh they can leave but they need to pay” like btch i thought yall dgaf??

[heady gate]

Hybe will not let them go freely. It will go to count.

[wind monolith]

its gonna go to court either way cuz nj definetly dont want to pay anything

[vapid turret]

Court*

[heady gate]

thanks again

[vapid turret]

Rich quick question are you in the USA/

Or any country that has english as its first language?

[heady gate]

English is not my 1st language. I use Chatgpt to check my grammar very often

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1857952266004881585

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

DEBUNKING THREE BIGGEST LIES ABOUT THE HYBE vs MHJ/NEWJEANS FEUD

1. HYBE was required by law, as a publicly-traded company, to disclose its internal conflicts and audit of ADOR to the media

2. Min Hee Jin used ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM as shields by instigating hate trains against

Twitter · Nov 17, 2024, 1:01 AM

[vapid turret]

Don't use Chat gpt

I understand English isn't your first language but grammarly is better.

[jolly junco]

is grammarly free?

[vapid turret]

Yes

[twin cypress]

Still think they should sign with an global label like umg instead of a Korean label

[vapid turret]

Or maybe the same company that took in the 50-50 members

[twin cypress]

Which is?

[vapid turret]

massive E&C

They're like brand new.

[hoary frost]

lol they can just go independent i doubt MHJ is planning to manage another group anyways

[waxen musk]

Expect the unexpected with MHJ.

[hoary frost]

i don’t get why hybe stans are insisting so hard for NJs to pay penalties like NJs owe hybe some debt plus aint hybe stealing from them they should pay NJs instead

[heady gate]

b/c they want Hybe to win big

[wind monolith]

hybe stans just a little crazy.. wait my bad not a little ALOT. Its gonna go to court and nj lawyers just gonna prove that hybe breached the contract which imo i think should be ez but we will find out soon.

[heady gate]

Basically, we will know the result next year

[onyx hearth]

Newjeans never die right guys

[wind monolith]

YEPPP NEWJEANS FOREVER

[hoary frost]

i just saw tiktoks of zico being praised for stepping down as a ceo to protect bnd like im pretty sure he was forced to step down due to bad sales performance he talked abt it in the interview

[heady gate]

New petition has reached 10k out of 50k

[wind monolith]

srry if it offended ppl ill use a better word

[twin cypress]

Yall do not want them independent cause then hybe will actually black ball them

That’s why they need to go to a big label to prevent a hybe blackball

[sonic meadow]

If bts also considers to also leave hybe then yea they are done and becomes a small company with not that much money anymore

I said if

[twin cypress]

My idea is if mhj sets up a sub label at another big label then V might leave hybe to join her and you know what they say once one member leaves then the group collapses

[sonic meadow]

yeah

[twin cypress]

Jungkook might then leave to join umg to go global and other members will follow

Basically what is going on with blackpink trying to go mainstream global independently

[sonic meadow]

BLACKPINK fr left the yg dungeon

[hoary frost]

if they do they prolly setup their own instead of going to another one but they prolly go under UMG

[heady gate]

Plz explain what are the practical things.

[twin cypress]

They wouldn’t change labels to still be bts but they would change labels for their own independent careers. Hybe ain’t sh*t on a global marketplace. If they want to have global reach then umg Atlantic Sony are the labels. Thats why blackpink members left yg and signed with other levels for their own careers

V also has dealt with the bullying from bang what makes you think he feels comfortable there?

You forget how toxic hybe employees are 😂

[heady gate]

Time will tell the answer. Meanwhile, we are just speculating.

[hoary frost]

ppl on twitter be like they chose MHJ over their successful careers 🤡🤡

[twin cypress]

All I’m saying is anyone in their position as basically the male version of black pink commercially will not be looking to stay in a group for long and will sooner rather than later split to a bigger label to go independent

[hoary frost]

their story reminds me of dave chappelle

[twin cypress]

The idea they stay together forever under hybe is way more crazy than them leaving soonish

[jolly junco]

you dont have to like her but respected newjeans choice because clearly they know her better than you

[leaden pawn]

here we go again 💀

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/disappear-gone-vanish-piece-im-out-gif-17966078

[steel depot]

you are misinformed, okay

[cosmic bison]

Newjeans never die forever

[wind monolith]

u disagree with their choice which means u wanted they to stay at hybe???

[jolly junco]

LOL funny how every colleague who worked with her in the past said otherwise

[hoary frost]

tbh i don’t get why international fans think ppl wont work with them bcuz of MHJ when she’s still highly respected in the industry more than hybe tbh only ppl working with them are there for the bag

[leaden pawn]

elaborate

[wind monolith]

what better has hybe ceos done cough cough bang pd with women half his age, why would they stay there

[steel depot]

and turns out right? and all words that was against her turns out hybe was doing it

[twin cypress]

No boy groups that are that successful stay together long: NSYNC, one direction, nwa, the Beatles, etc etc. making money by yourself is > than splitting money with everyone.

[cosmic bison]

Are enemy is here?

[jolly junco]

i wouldnt say enemy, just a lost soul

none of the adults in this world are sin-free, so do you dislike every adults in this world? even your spouse?

by your logic you should spend the rest of your life alone

[twin cypress]

NEWSFLASH: all CEO’s in the music industry are weirdos who do that 😂

[wind monolith]

newsflash nj have two options either stay or leave they clearly are picking the better option

all we are doing is respecting nj decision

[twin cypress]

Then if you prefer to not be around them then you should probably not interact with any idol industry because it’s all exploitation of children’s looks

[wind monolith]

explain

[sweet pebble]

whatd mhj do

[wind monolith]

we never said shes a girlboss for sexualizing

[sweet pebble]

cz nj sides with her

[twin cypress]

Nah what has she done to sexualize newjeans? Just look at the way they dress it’s the most unisex outfits ever

No sexual dance moves either

[waxen musk]

This needs to be reposed because this is how I feel and engine needs to read it too. I wish I could speak this eloquently. https://x.com/juantokki/status/1857638559387439429?s=46

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

I feel like I need to talk about this issue again. To the i-tokkis who are still clinging to the baseless narrative perpetuated by haters that “MHJ has a questionable past” and spreading it to newer bunnies—you need to realize that you’re effectively doing HYBE’s work for them.

Twitter · Nov 16, 2024, 4:15 AM

[sweet pebble]

its either ur misinformed or u got a dirty mind

u said sumn abt sexualizing and hate to mhj

ye i didn't say sum abt nj too

[wind monolith]

The girls and Daepyonim are fighting for each other yet here you all are pulling them down… because of what? You think you know better than the girls and their families? You? An outsider who got your info from a random twitter account? Be serious….

this paragraph 🔥

[rain spade]

You left this server and joined back ?

[waxen musk]

All this shit has been debunked and I’m disappointed none of you guys have said that. I wish I had links on the ready but like that post above says you can look at Ramjjang account for so much help with disproving misinformation. Please take the time I’m kinda begging you all not just engine but Tokkis too.

[tawdry vessel]

engine rn

[sweet pebble]

ye cause idk where u came up with mhj sexualizing

[wind monolith]

i was looking for links rn😭

while "last month"

[leaden pawn]

but you specifically said that mhj sexualizes children yet all you can point to is her having brooke shields on her moodboard

how do you draw that conclusion

[waxen musk]

engine stop yapping for 90 seconds and read that link pls it might help

[steel depot]

Anyway... NewJeans is what's important here not you or anyone's opinion... Pushing your hate/opinion doesn't change the fact that they know MHJ and they trust her...

[wind monolith]

exactly

[jolly junco]

because its pointless to keep saying the same thing if the other person doesnt want to read

[tawdry vessel]

and nj's parents too

[waxen musk]

I guess. Anyway I stand with the girls and their parents and everyone that works with her and her peers and her supporters in the industry over the decades.

[tawdry vessel]

she's not perfect but stop throwing allegations

[waxen musk]

DISPROVEN ACTIONS

[sweet pebble]

if ur referring to the song cookie to mhj sexualizing, im pretty sure mhj didnt create that song to sexualize. if she did nj wouldn't be protecting her and staying with her

[waxen musk]

Pls someone help find links on ramjjang account or something

[steel depot]

they don't really get it... they think we are idolizing mhj more than newjeans

[sweet pebble]

then what makes u say that mhj sexualizes children

[rain spade]

there's no point trying to argue with this person honestly

[waxen musk]

Wasting time on one person anyway lol I think it’s time to say bye

[wind monolith]

based off this if u have legitimate proof she had a bad past drop the link

[rain spade]

They defnitely did/say something they regret before anyways

[steel depot]

so what do you think your dislike will benifit newjeans?

[leaden pawn]

are you implying that mhj has?

[steep torrent]

im pretty sure that was the mv director and he apologized? not mhj

[waxen musk]

Guys did you know there’s a nice block feature that lets you ignore a person 🙂

[steel depot]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-newjeans-haerin-newjeans-minji-newjeans-hanni-newjeans-danielle-gif-14689727128619551012

[leaden pawn]

now the burden of proof is on you. i'll be waiting

[waxen musk]

Wait how do you block on mobile I’ve only done it on pc before. Never mind I figured it out.

[distant gulch]

your opinion is based on incorrect facts. brooke shields wasn't "naked on her walls." she had normal instagram posts of her. and brooke shields is extremely famous for other things besides what happened to her as a child

[twin cypress]

It is the exact opposite. mhj gets demonized for having a photo shot from a movie while hybe gets away with questionable outfits on Eunchae and making her do grown-up moves. allowing source to force 11-15 years old doing the heel dance which was hella weird to see haerin do and ALSO LEAKING IT. and allowing belift to dress illit in lolita fashion and bloomers that p*dos are attracted to. but sure everyone on twitter thinks hybe is evil and mhj is a girlboss and not the other way around

[jolly junco]

i know someone who display her naked baby photos in her home, does that mean she sexualizing her own children?

[sweet pebble]

bro models go naked for fashion and artistic reasons

[twin cypress]

wrong argument for this because technically that actress was underage

[jolly junco]

and i know for sure a lot of artist have naked picture hanging on the wall on their home, countless of artist in fact

does that make them sexualixing people too?

or did MHJ walk around with underage children wearing an inappropriate clothes like BJ Juice? maybe i'm missing something?

[tawdry vessel]

mel lock the thread.. oh wait

[twin cypress]

lmao

[sweet pebble]

but does being underage mean that mhj sexualizes that picture on the wall??

[twin cypress]

they too busy being racist in another server @tawdry vessel

[steel depot]

aye dont jinx the good mods

[twin cypress]

nope i agree with that point

[leaden pawn]

the nude art on min hee jin's wall was

1. a painting
2. based off of teresa ann savoy in the film salon kitty. she was 21 years old

[wind monolith]

bc there wasn't anything tangible to actually pin to min heejin. like ok she has pictures from inappropriate films in her home. but it was over the top to insinuate she's inappropriate with minors and the newjeans were in danger.

[tawdry vessel]

[twin cypress]

i think engine was referring to the brook shields one not those

[jolly junco]

i have a potrait of Jesus with no clothes on my wall, oh my god i'm sexualixing jesus now

[wind monolith]

see if mhj was texting or hanging out with ppl half her age(cough cough) i would get her point but its not like that

[twin cypress]

the better point would be is mhj even attracted to the female gender sexually. if the answer is no then she isnt sexualizing anything and just has that questionable thing up for the artistic aspect of it

[wind monolith]

i agree

[steel depot]

goodness

[tawdry vessel]

pleas stay jesus out of this lol

[leaden pawn]

the pictures of shields are neither sexual or questionable though

[twin cypress]

like i just find people's accusations of mhj being a p or groomer to be outlandish and mainly misogynistic because we dont even know if she is straight asexual lgbt and they crucify her worse then straight male ceos who are objectively weirdos

[valid sierra]

why do people act like they know better than the girls, their parents and their staffs? they are adults or have been in the industry long enough. they are the actual ones experiencing it first hand. why do people think they are the ones who are making bad decisions??

AND who do you think you are to make decisions for them for their own career and life???

[waxen musk]

Finally found the post sorry it took me so long https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1856599467438551144?s=46

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

@toktoktokkies @moonncaat oh heres a post that clarifies the nudes on her wall https://t.co/jtm5fjg7A1

i kind of did this on the fly so the info isnt as accurate (check QRTs and replies) as it should be but the actress that inspired the paintings was of age when she did the movies

Twitter · Nov 13, 2024, 7:26 AM

[jolly junco]

apparently outsiders like us knows better, kpoppers usual behavior

[wind monolith]

she doesnt get that we have said it like 30 times

brooke shields is like 15 years older than mhj and was global sensation during mhj's formative years and into her adulthood. she's the margot robbie or anya taylor joy of mhj's generation. why would it be weird for mhj to admire her?
-ramjjang

[twin cypress]

oh this literally changes everything engine was trying to say lmao. that nudish picture on her wall was a 21 year old this whole time

[waxen musk]

Anyway if anything is not debunked I’d like to know for sure, but at the same time I always want sources and research and can really not trust anyone apart from like 1tokki and ramjjang for that type of thing. It’s disappointing there isn’t more.

Like that 9/11 stuff I haven’t heard of before so now I need to go looking into that lol oh what fun

I can’t see their blocked message btw

[leaden pawn]

its a painting, depicting an adult woman

any more hybe vomit you want to regurgitate?

[waxen musk]

lol I unblocked to read the shit they posted that contradicts what I posted before that

[cosmic bison]

Throughout Heaven and Earth, Newjeans and bunnies are The Honored One 🫶

[twin cypress]

also that photo of brooke shields doesnt look nothing like how brooke looked like in pretty baby which was the controversial movie

[steep torrent]

^

[sweet pebble]

theyre js tryna nitpick mhj to ruin her image

[twin cypress]

so your whole argument here is since she had brooke shields on her page and appreciates her talent then she must be a sick individual because brooke at one time was in a problematic movie? thats like saying if i have a collage of robert downey jr then i must be a racist because he did blackface in a movie when he was younger

[rain spade]

Can't wait for her to win in court

[valid sierra]

NewJeans actually wearing comfortable not revealing clothes, and even wearing long safety shorts. AND you think shes sexualizing them?

[wind monolith]

what weird thing did she say about minors now?

[sweet pebble]

js because of a picture on the wall bro concluded that mhj sexualizes children🤦‍♂️

[twin cypress]

bro we moved on from this point. brooke was famous for other movies so that collage wasnt made just because she was in one controversial movie but instead because she was a famous actress when mhj was young and those nude photos on her wall are grown women. like your arguments here are done

[jolly junco]

NJ Parents: "yeah right i would gladly give up my child life to someone who sexualizing children in her free time"

[twin cypress]

i only said that under the assumption that brooke shield was the one on her wall as you tried to frame it as

[distant gulch]

you know what's funny? mhj gets more shit for having an unproblematic, unrelated brooke shields picture than calvin klein did for his exploitative ad campaign using her. go search his response to it

[twin cypress]

the fact you wont acknowledge this @wide steeple shows you are actively partaking in cognitive dissonance and you wont take in new evidence that would change your opinion

[distant gulch]

in People magazine about ck's brooke shields ad campaign he said "It was fun, innocent and yes, sexy as hell,"

[modern fog]

#1231839760759263232 message

[waxen musk]

Did they just post a Tweet from NJ debut that has barely any views or interactions

How hard are they searching to prove their disproven points on ONE FUCKING topic

[cosmic bison]

I will stand with newjeans 🤞

[twin cypress]

my thing is to this tweet would be who are the subjects in the photo and what is the context behind it im not schizo enough to just see a child being posted and say this was done with bad intent. like if they are famous actors from her childhood then i would like to know

[wind monolith]

first two photos: from published in spring 2015 and dedicated to the occasional stylist and photographer Rosa Codina. Rosa decided to dedicate the publication to her daughter and what surrounds her, in a project entitled “Autour de Alia” and with which she preferred to base the monographic component on the motif rather than on temporality or technique

Last photo is romeo and juliet: romeo & juliet 1968 was revered and celebrated film we all accepted for half a century (and olivia hussey defended until 2023).

[waxen musk]

When I see those pics of random children I do question what’s going on because I lack context. But how does any of that “weirdness” prove that she’s a danger to children. But of a leap.

[valid sierra]

https://terrranova.com/product/gong-2/#
its not that hard to look up for its meaning

[shut kelp]

im curious why dont u like her?

[wind monolith]

2 of them r from that and last one is romeo and juliet

[distant gulch]

that olivia hussey portrayal of juliet is famous in korea to this day. that's why nj have a duo name husseyz

[steep torrent]

3rd one is julianne moore

[jolly junco]

because he needs to spread HYBE teaching to us

[silk skiff]

Ok we get it you don’t like her, can we move on already? This isn’t even relevant to the current situation at hand. If you’re just here to criticise her character you should just go to Reddit, your opinions would be more well received there.

[steel depot]

omg we on the same topic

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-gif-25796820

[shut kelp]

oh brother.....

[jolly junco]

since HYBE failed to do that, someone else need to do that by infiltrating into bunnies

[tawdry vessel]

it's fine, she's weird and not perfect, but throwing the p allegations is crazy

[jolly junco]

who misgendering you? please tag me

[wind monolith]

u said he when shes a she

[steel depot]

okay you dislike her. are we done here?

[shut kelp]

sorry but everyone who do just assumes thats the reason

[rain spade]

No hahahahha

[jolly junco]

man its just my habit, HE is shorter than SHE so i love to write it

[waxen musk]

I don’t want it to end

[twin cypress]

ok so one photo was julianne moore, one was an innocent collage of brooke shields, two are from some art project some person did about growing up, two are from romeo and juliet/ olivia hussey, and the two nude photos in her house were grown women and somehow mhj is problematic for this? am i missing something

[modern fog]

?lick #1231839760759263232

[steel depot]

y'all are kangster

[tawdry vessel]

okay thanks for clearing that up

[jolly junco]

clearing misinfo and misunderstanding is also important, dont act like that

[distant gulch]

no, you're not missing anything. also, people pieced together picked out images of a bunch of things she posted or displayed to make her look bad

[valid sierra]

same old long stretched baseless rumors. very tiring and disappointing in your part tbh

[shut kelp]

i feel like it was only a problem by ikpop stans

[steel depot]

i think we're good they just don't wanna move on from the topic

[wind monolith]

can u really call urself a true tokki for disagreeing with nj opinion

[rain spade]

people believe whatever they see on the internet without proof insert classic emote

[twin cypress]

thats what im saying, people are so schizo when it comes to trying to frame mhj as being evil and spread misinformation so others think its true. thats crazy

[tawdry vessel]

can we atleast agree that shes weird and kinda crazy

[wind monolith]

ah this sentence again ptsd

[distant gulch]

yeah, because all ifans are kpop stans and have their biases, so they will agree to narratives without looking at everything

[twin cypress]

cause it is schizo to see brooke shields and instantly think mhj is referring to only pretty baby and not any other movie she has been in as a way to frame mhj as a p word evil person

[tawdry vessel]

but i love mhj, it's just her personality

[wind monolith]

In an August 2018 interview for Fox News to promote the release of her autobiography Girl on the Balcony, Hussey discussed filming the controversial nude scene in Romeo and Juliet: "We shot it at the end of the film. So by that time...we've become one big family. It wasn't that big of a deal

[twin cypress]

cause they are seeing things and believing things that arent reality

[waxen musk]

Tbh a lot of Tokkis still find MHJ weird and I just assume it’s all stuff that was brought up around NJ debut and I seriously think all the debunking I’ve read (and wish I had immediate links to!!!) over the months I don’t think has been seen as much as the stuff from debut that has just lingered forever. It’s frustrating as hell.

[jolly junco]

all genius people are, they are only weird and crazy in the eyes of non-genius people. But within the genius circle she looks normal

so?

[wind monolith]

bro i was suppose to finish 2 assigments

[distant gulch]

so what if she was 17. it was a messed up time when it came to protecting minors. in fact, olivia hussey sued the movie studio and lost because they had different standards at the time. it doesn't mean people that like the movie are bad. it's still a classic

[tawdry vessel]

atleast read my next message after i said that

[steel depot]

im about to finish '500 days of summer' and y'all still in romeo and juliet

[shut kelp]

let them believe what they want we cant change their minds when theres facts literal in front of them

[twin cypress]

Yea at this point engine is just actively partaking in cognitive dissonance no point in talking about this any longer

[jolly junco]

yeah i know, i'm just yapping so other people can read it too

also i want to add, in the eyes of genius like her, US non-genius people are the weird and crazy one

[wind monolith]

while i was 19 the teacher made me watch romeo juliet shit now the teacher loves to sexualize children and we all love too do that now too oh no the world is collapsing

im heading out i got assigments to finsih

[shut kelp]

they know what theyre doing

[valid sierra]

you stan zb1 and dont even follow any NJ related account on twitter. stop lying and stop calling yourself an NJ fan . Also stop talking like you care for NewJeans

[modern fog]

?lick #1231839760759263232

[rain spade]

even if mhj personally explain her reasoning behind all those , i doubt she would believe it anyways

[shut kelp]

anyways what day do we hear about the news?

[steel depot]

we have 12days to go or less? pls don't lock it TT

[wind monolith]

i think 27th is the last day

[shut kelp]

hmm okay

[waxen musk]

10 days

[jolly junco]

i already told this thread, someone need to spread HYBE teaching about MHJ since hybe themselves failed to do so

by infiltrating to bunnies circle he/she is on a mission

[steel depot]

time flies so fast TT

[jolly junco]

did i say anything about you? well if the shoe fit

[steep torrent]

Correction: Olivia Hussey was 15 but Zeffirelli's RJ was a mainstream acclaimed & uncontroversial film until recently (2023) when the leads came out against this scene. Was MHJ, who probably saw this film a long time ago, as it was released in 1968, supposed to know that?

[jolly junco]

and i'm just answering your question

[wind monolith]

[steep torrent]

from ramjjang

[steel depot]

this calls for rewatching romeo and juliet

[jolly junco]

do you dig every detail every information about some movie before you start watching it? amazing

[waxen musk]

I don’t think engine likes her

[distant gulch]

it's funny that MHJ in 2022 was held accountable for these things, when the actual exploitation events didn't even come out yet. brooke shields recently talked about it and the actors in romeo and juliet just filed a lawsuit this year.

[wind monolith]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/274999783108 i love how its a fkin movie poster

[jolly junco]

becareful, everyone who laid eyes on this picture will get an image for sexualizing children

[wind monolith]

oh no im finished now

[distant gulch]

oh my god. she DIDN'T. the only nude is a 21 year old

[wind monolith]

so if i buy the movie poster i sexualize children

[waxen musk]

Is everyone mixing up which picture has which age people in them?

[jolly junco]

the movie theater which displaying the poster are also sexualizing children. What a disaster of world we live in

[steel depot]

omg the movie critics can't display this because it's sexualizing children... i didnt know that you must be genius...

[wind monolith]

oh no all these ppl sexualize chidren

bro acting like we r holding u hostage here

[shut kelp]

ur the one that keeps replying 😹

[rain spade]

no

[wind monolith]

if i had that i would look at myself first and try to rlly understand y 10 ppl r against me

[steep torrent]

and you think mhj would know her age?

[shut kelp]

good

[wind monolith]

👍 good to know

[steel depot]

you're in the wrong place then

[steep torrent]

its simply one of the iconic covers

[wind monolith]

anything else to say u can leave too if u want again no one is holding u hostage

[shut kelp]

no discord

[waxen musk]

I think you’ll enjoy Reddit

[arctic swan]

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/08/hybe-adors-min-hee-jin-responds-to-the-accusations-that-she-is-glamorizing-pedophilia?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3AD3VlsS_W8pGf0lmcy4jsKH2C0rmRRQd8q22z-sZ3JP4YVX2MiQiBlkE_aem__GLmwTCtKrzqK5u58e4FFQ Previously, many suspicions and accusations arose that Min Hee Jin was glamorizing pedophilia. The reason was that Min Hee Jin posted pictures of naked girls in the interior of her studio, according to Min Hee Jin's posts on her personal Instagram in the past. In response, Min Hee Jin dismissed the accusations saying that "the photos were just a gift from someone I know." Additionally, she pointed out that those photos were from a few years ago - akp

[valid sierra]

ur opinion was based on baseless, long streched, rumors. we were just trying to correct your facts. so its up to you how will you take it. have a good night!

[waxen musk]

The whole reason we argued to keep this thread open and allow people to speak is to allow people to ask questions and to distribute corrections over misinformation

[steep torrent]

theres no point in trying to convince them, I just dont like to see someone disagree with newjeans decision based on their misinformed opinion on mhj

[wind monolith]

while disliking their stance

[waxen musk]

As long as other people who read this thread read the info then they can judge for themselves. One person doesn’t matter but the spread of the info does.

[shut kelp]

u honestly cant change some ones mind that doesnt have an open mind to stuff they see their fandom spread the same narrative every week about her an believe thats the truth

[rain spade]

are you goiing to sleep or not ?

[waxen musk]

Don’t let them

[valid sierra]

[waxen musk]

“Have a great night”

[twin cypress]

Good night don’t let the cognitive dissonance hit you on your way out 😹

[waxen musk]

Usually people can change their mind if they “sleep on it”. Not sure how that works with insomnia

[jolly junco]

IJBOL, this make me laugh so hard

[twin cypress]

I just don’t understand coming in here talking bout mhj bad and then you ask them why and they give you the same crazy evidence that pages like Jin and sniper post and then you show them why that’s schizoposting misinformation and they just ignore everything and keep their same opinion they get from Incel Twitter

[waxen musk]

I haven’t actually been through that experience before that I assume people on Twitter have to go through every day lol. Was new for me. Nice way to pass time. Really enjoyable. (Extreme sarcasm)

[leaden pawn]

whats funny is someone mentioned bts and thats when the sleeper cell awoke to spread its agenda
sorry i mean "opinion"

[wind monolith]

oh ya thats how it started

bro it went on for too long like whos gonna do my assigments now

[jolly junco]

Its the usual breakfast for twitter warrior

[distant gulch]

the problem is that people think our bias toward newjeans makes us defend mhj. when in fact, we know the most about her allegations, because we looked up everything and that's why we defend her. i looked up so many different things, and it's ridiculous how she has been painted.

[rain spade]

Honestly didn't want it to end

[jolly junco]

I didnt even know how it started

[jolly junco]

Tokkis who watched every newjeans phoning live, who read phoning chat from the members would know the truth

[wind monolith]

"causal fan of nj" means u havent done any research into the situation and only follow incels

[waxen musk]

I’m SUPER conscious of this and make sure I’m not in a bias bubble and I still have been cautious for MHJ longer than I’ve been “re-educated” about the misinformation so it’s still ingrained in me that I don’t quite trust her but I HAVE to because of the overwhelming support she has from so many places.

Girls being first of course, it doesn’t need to be said

[wind monolith]

bro said she disagrees with nj choice what other choice do they have like tf

[cosmic bison]

You go to sleep your brain is tired

[twin cypress]

Disagree with their choice like staying in hybe with the people who hate their success is the better option like where you getting your misinformation from

[jolly junco]

Jinjjins and sniper

[wind monolith]

we should have asked her opinion on those two clowns

[jolly junco]

This would answer the whole mystery about engine, great question

[rain spade]

ask her to come again

[short laurel]

I m not typing that again. Broken discord 😭

[hoary frost]

So Mhj isnt even a pedo after all bro is the hero

[young wyvern]

i cant fully forgive mhj for calling the girls fat and lazy

[hoary frost]

When did she say that

[wind monolith]

that wasnt to the them tho i swear that was debunked too

[jolly junco]

are you absolutely sure it was directed to the 5 of newjeans members?

[young wyvern]

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2024/10/newly-revealed-pages-of-hybes-music-industry-weekly-trend-report-contain-detailed-analyses-written-by-employees-not-just-online-comments hype report leaks

[shut kelp]

im pretty sure that was mistranslated by an army

[hoary frost]

Im p sure whatever negative things Mhj “allegedly” said abt the girls were debunked

[split bramble]

anyone can be made to look like anything out of context

[young wyvern]

"The message [from CEO Min] said, “Just tell them to say they will be humble all the time, as I’m making sure they’re gaining popularity even when they get fat like pigs. If they pretend to be cool while saying impressive things, but don’t greet me, I might want to kill them.” She also says, “What do they know? They just look in the mirror.” and “They didn’t hit big because they’re good.”
Lee Jin Ho added, “In particular, she even made disparaging remarks about a certain member’s appearance, mentioning her real name.” The text message released said, “I scold these fat stupid kids for not losing any weight.” and “Wow, OO, fat XX (member’s name).”

https://www.asianjunkie.com/2024/05/17/min-hee-jin-reportedly-called-newjeans-members-fat-their-fans-brainless-and-disparaged-woman-who-made-sexual-harassment-complaint/

[tawdry vessel]

she might be referring it to bang pd who knows 💀

[hoary frost]

This was debunked

[shut kelp]

the ytber reconstructed her texts from the injuction or w.e and painted like she was talking about the girls

[jolly junco]

IJBOL
Sources: Lee Jin Ho

yeah right

[split bramble]

well when you think of fat kids .....................

[hoary frost]

Read namjjang’s thread or smth

[young wyvern]

can you source pls.

genuinely asking ^

[lucid yarrow]

its about bhs its from dispatch leak

[jolly junco]

even dispatch leaked the real messages, not like lee jin ho

you are so proud of your sources like lee jin ho, i'm baffled

[wind monolith]

i swear ever since nj wrote the letter so many new ppl have showed up who have no clue whats going on

[young wyvern]

idk who that is. im only going off translations that are available

[modern fog]

LMFAOOFOSOAO

[wind monolith]

ggs

[jolly junco]

then you should know he got sued by many idol/artist even entertainment company

he's like the male version of sojang

[stiff prairie]

THE lee jin ho? 😭

[young wyvern]

why are you guys making fun of me. i seriously dont know who that is! im not being snarky either. what did he get sued for?

[hoary frost]

I dont need to source anyt..there are already lots that this article writer has written wrongly in the past 😭

[steep torrent]

this guy stitch worked her messages to make it seem like she was taking about fans and newjeans and later on the full conversation came out and it turned out she was talking about bang pd

[distant gulch]

min hee jin has repeatedly said those were maliciously edited, but people think everything she says is a lie. i'll try to find the thread but later when they leaked more messages, it was discovered that the same wording was used to talk about bang pd

[tawdry vessel]

bang pd fits the description

[hoary frost]

@young wyvern Its ok to be curious n question MHJ’s attitude towards Ot5
U can read Ramjjang’s twitter thread cos many major things that media said MHJ “alledgedly” did was debunked there

[jolly junco]

i'm not making fun of you
its just because i'm tired to encounter people like you who keep spreading misinfo without checking the truth first

[jolly junco]

i thought her name was Ramjjang not namjjang?

[rain spade]

we had one not long ago toooo

[young wyvern]

but i citied my sources. the allkpop article wasnt written by whoever that person was. it was written by susan han.

[hoary frost]

Oops

[steep torrent]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1821339825691357565?s=46

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

As previously posted, HYBE forgot to ask their smear merchants Lee Jin Ho and Dispatch to cross check their lies 🫠

Twitter · Aug 8, 2024, 12:17 AM

[jolly junco]

@young wyvern read this, and then please comeback say it again about MHJ

[young wyvern]

but honestly its hard to find legitimate kpop news because korean media is so messy

[wind monolith]

yep thats cuz oh hybe they control the media

[steep torrent]

that thread isnt really about the comments tho only that twt in specific theres probably a better thread out there

[distant gulch]

you have to understand that a lot of the stuff hybe has been saying has been through official media sources, so a lot of the stuff negative about mhj cannot be trusted. those kakao messages is an example

[lucid yarrow]

the entire twitter is full of anti from hybe stans in english side korea loves NJ/MHJ

[distant gulch]

but that thread uses official sources. where the messages came from originally and then when they showed up again in dispatch

[stiff prairie]

didn't lee jin ho apologize later for editing texts? or was it sb else

[young wyvern]

reddit hates newjeans and MHJ too :/

[steep torrent]

https://x.com/thegreatgaram/status/1838274955513098315?s=46

람짱 // ʀᴀᴍᴊᴊᴀɴɢ (@thegreatgaram) on X

"MHJ never denied here leaked text messages are real"

HYBE and its minions also never denied editing them. In fact, they explicit state that the text messages were reconstructed in their smear pieces masquerading as reporting or they were lifted from a third party.

Twitter · Sep 23, 2024, 5:51 PM

[wind monolith]

reddit is somewhere u should never go thats full of ratmys and 2 other fandoms just hating

[young wyvern]

glad someone finally said it. armys are so delusional sometimes

[jolly junco]

its because HYBE controlled the media, my advice is to follow a trusted bunnies who translated articles from media that arent under HYBE payroll

so far i only trust @juantokki

[young wyvern]

and i say this as someone who likes bts lol i cannot fuck with the fandom

[hoary frost]

10 more days

[jolly junco]

HYBE even controlled japan media its insane

[hoary frost]

Wonder how one achieve Bsh’s build

[wind monolith]

after nj are free we need to take down jjinjin and sniper cuz those two wont stop even after its done

[hoary frost]

Sniper is so problematic, his posts are disgusting

[lucid yarrow]

do they still after the cult thing well its been months so no clue

[steep torrent]

@cato_o_o, @njbubblegum and @thegreatgaram too

[jolly junco]

@young wyvern as someone who you claim to be army, what is your opinion about these 2 clown? i'm genuinely curious

[hoary frost]

Makes my blood boil when I came across Sniper’s post of Newjeans at gigi’s event or something

[young wyvern]

im not familiar with them. also i dont really like calling myself an army

[jolly junco]

because so far i saw that those 2 clown followers are either army or peanuts

[wind monolith]

peanuts😭

[young wyvern]

i am just a fan of bts, not apart of army

[jolly junco]

glad you can distance yourself from delusional fandom

[young wyvern]

everything i know about this whole hybe v newjeans thing is from youtube videos that summarize everything and reddit megathreads lol i dont have twitter

[hoary frost]

Honestly I’m sad newjeans wont be newjeans anymore, but Im glad they will be free from that company

[jolly junco]

i block both of them, never check their post or wtv coming out from them. My timeline are clean, i only follow juantokki to keep up with the update

[young wyvern]

hopefully they can continue with the same concept and sound?

[jolly junco]

please dont tell me the youtuve videos are from seoulite

[young wyvern]

no

[jolly junco]

they can, with the original Team behind the name of newjeans

[tiny peak]

I hope they can do whatever music makes them happy, they deserve that

[jolly junco]

ok my advice is just to read update from @juantokki or @thegreatgaram

[hoary frost]

Really feels like we know them personally, they share so much with us and treat us like friends

[jolly junco]

they always stated their sources

[hoary frost]

Im disappointed at the adults to have failed them, Hyein is only 16

[stiff prairie]

you should check out megathread from r/newjeans
lots of things are burried now but the stuff you're asking about was discussed there long ago and i was pretty satisfied w most of their opinions and discussions

[young wyvern]

i also like illit too but honestly i feel kinda resentful because it feels like theyre meant to replace newjeans. no one can admit that bsh's ego is getting in they way of newjeans career. its probably best if they leave cuz theyre cleary not happy

[tiny peak]

while HYBE keeps using the victim card and pity party as a way to manipulate their fandom, NewJeans girls instead wanted to make sure bunnies weren't worried and calm, even when they were literally fighting for their careers

[jolly junco]

i pity these kids, the adults at their agency are using them to shield everything that are coming to get them

[red thorn]

How hybe claimed that they got her kkt chat from their cloud, it happened so because mhj used company email to upload big chunk data.
Is mhj that dumb to upload it using company email if she up to something suspicious?

[tiny peak]

Ditto MV hits so different lately, I always tear up

[hoary frost]

Hits harder after seeing Hyein choked up yesterday

[jolly junco]

i never thought ditto story would applied this fast to us bunnies, i thought i would experiences the ditto 5 or 10 years later

[hoary frost]

Hyein always cries during special occassions, but yesterday was so 😓😓

[young wyvern]

also multiple fandoms using them to attack newjeans as if they care about them lol

[tiny peak]

they had to grow up so fast, but they are stronger because of it. I've never respected idol as much as them

[hoary frost]

Hope everything gets better for my goats Hyein Minji Danielle Hanni and Haerin

Adults failed them but they have each other

[tiny peak]

they have good adults around them too

[lucid yarrow]

plus they keep saying we are atking Illit/hybe groups fine we have some toxic fans in all fan base u can't blame on all us plus fakers/trolls from other fandom posing as tokkies just to hate and we get blame for it

[tiny peak]

bunnies fandom is not really that big, they are still a young group. they just love playing the victim card

it's easier to blame bunnies, instead of the toxic company and their toxic fandom

in the big picture, kpop needs NewJeans to take the industry forward. that's all that matter to me right now

[hoary frost]

Hybe messed up

I cannot help but wonder what the girls r planning for us in 10 days

[jolly junco]

a new beginning

i'm so so so excited for a new beginning with the 5 of them

[tiny peak]

me too!!!

[jolly junco]

only happiness will come after freedom and liberation

[tiny peak]

freedom to be their real authentic lovely selves

[hoary frost]

Newjeans are the goat

Really changed the industry

[tiny peak]

most authentic, brave, creative group ever

[jolly junco]

i'm 1000000000% not afraid if they finally leave that ass of a company

have you seen their by jeans? bruh they have THE STAR aura, THE TALENT for real

nothing to worry about

[hoary frost]

“You save everyone but who saves you” ahhh situation

[young wyvern]

do you guys think someone will buy them out of their contract? or maybe mhj creates her own label?

[tiny peak]

I have no idea, are there any reputable Korean lawyers who discussed the possibilities?

there's too many lawsuits and contracts, it's so complicated

[hoary frost]

If I remember correctly…there was one that says Newjeans will win and Hybe will be the one paying them

But I cant remember where I saw it from 😭😭😭

[tiny peak]

I'm hopeful they get an injunction and can terminate their contracts. That can happen relatively soon

[hoary frost]

Somewhere in here for sure

[jolly junco]

idk but i prefer for them to create their own company

with MHJ personality, she cant be having someone who controlled her

[wind monolith]

i feel like this would be possible if they have enough moeny

[jolly junco]

by joining an established company, they have to follow the kpop formula that every entertainment company doing now

MHJ vision is not the kpop formula, so no i dont think they will join any company soon

[steep torrent]

saw people say bana maybe

[hoary frost]

NJ in their soundcloud era i guess

[short laurel]

i want everyone new here to know that. u can take anyones text even someone pure angle and reconstruct it into really horrible things. it's super easy to do so. it doesn't make it right. also bsh have history of calling idols fat. 💀

[wind monolith]

it will take me two seconds to change anyone's discord messege here all i need is paint

[lucid yarrow]

they prob did a tons/worst in that report if the gov didnt even want to show it

[hoary frost]

i think team bunnies are holding back i rmber they said they got alot of evidence

[short laurel]

i m starting to get really annoyed by amount of is info peopl are spreading. one can not like MHJ if they want even hate her if they like but atleast they need to stop twisting facts and spreading lies. but i feel like they want to have some kind of justification to hate on her so they spread so much lies.

[wind monolith]

very true and alot of these ppl have showed up right after nj letter

i think 2 days we had two antis show up in newjeans chat i got the mods to ban them

[heady gate]

She got ban?

[short laurel]

someone from yesterday either left themselves or got banned or kicked

https://youtu.be/bgo7rm5Maqg it's offtopic but this video explains propaganda in a way. it's how so many tokkies falling for lies. it's really good video too

[wind monolith]

i love this yt channel

[hoary frost]

lol they just using her as a scapegoat they really dont care abt morals she only got allegations but a lot of ppl had been proven to do worse things but yall wont see any think pieces abt it

[dapper root]

the hell anyone talking about anymore

[wind monolith]

oh hello nothing going on here everything is fine plz dont lock chat

[tawdry vessel]

this thread about to get locked i fear

[dapper root]

imma lock this shit forever lowkey

[wind monolith]

😭

[dapper root]

nobody knows how to have a discussion about this without riding mad meat respectfully

dont know why people can just leave it at i hope the girls are okay

[heady gate]

It was a warzone 4 hours ago, when Engine joined chat

[dapper root]

and not have this back and fourth about who’s right whos wrong 😭 which meat i gotta ride

naw but engine had points

min heejin is kinda of a weirdo creep art woman

[hoary frost]

no disrespect but i thought this was a MHJ vs HYBE thread? if i want to talk abt newjeans ill got to a newjeans chat

[dapper root]

this thread honestly is stupid anyway

and idk why the old mod team even made it

well

because its all people joined in to talk about

is probably the reason

[wind monolith]

alr ngl it does deserve to be closed

[heady gate]

repen it on Thanksgiving

[lucid yarrow]

its for not having all neg stuff in regular chat

[dapper root]

but all im saying is dont ride hard for min heejin bro

[hoary frost]

i think ppl want to vent without hybe stans terrorizing u

[dapper root]

she kinda is a weirdo!

[steel depot]

if this is lock or removed then we cant talk about any of these? we cant talk in the newjeans-chat since these things are messy...

[stiff prairie]

thing is girl are riding mhj hard and by association so are we

[dapper root]

doesnt have to be like this

you can simply think for yourself

[stiff prairie]

if they didn't show the support they did a lot of us wouldn't be either

[dapper root]

or does kpop girls remove that part of brain patterns

[short laurel]

i m saying this again. u can feel whatever u feel about mhj. issue i have is people are spreading things about her that have already been debunked. (don't mind my poor grammar)

[dapper root]

whats even been debunked

[stiff prairie]

and yes i have my own opinions on mhj but they come from internet whereas the girls are always there facing both hybe and mhj so they definitely know what's better for them

[hoary frost]

idk if this mod is ragebaiting or nah

[short laurel]

the chat. that engine was talking about 4 hours ago.

[dapper root]

im not ragebaiting anything

ah i see now

allkpop what a great source for news historically a very good site

[young wyvern]

considering this thing will define their careers...this thread shouldn't be locked lol

[dapper root]

dont look up their history

[young wyvern]

to be fair its very hard to get legitimate news sources for kpop. kpop news is pretty much regulated to twitter or random panchoa comments. bbc and billboard have covered this ongoing lawsuit but its very bare bones

plus im not sure about the journalism ethics of korean media anymore

[dapper root]

yeah im just saying allkpop leaked nudes of an idol once

so they suck

[short laurel]

topstarnews atleast from what little i've seen seem to have made some decent articles

[young wyvern]

allkpop is like the tmz of kpop. so its not entirely inaccurate but does have shady ethics

same goes for koreaboo

[stiff prairie]

journalism in itself is a dying field. they got no money!! so whoever is willing to pay them they'll take it most often than not. or they'll simply use clickbaiting titles or missinfo or some shii that will bring more engagement rather than truth

[heady gate]

Welcome to entertainment business, it occurs in many developed countries.

[wind monolith]

imagine how stupid we look crying and throwing up today about the speech when in 10 days hybe sets ador back to how it was, newjeans releases NJ1, AND announces tickets to “BUNNIES TRIP: WORLD TOUR”

dw guys its gonna happen ( in our dreams)

[jolly junco]

you are so funny, shading any sources from the internet but also guiding us not to trust newjeans themselves

so who do we have to trust? oh i know... GOD
gotcha

[hoary frost]

lol kpop stans are just weird in general they want their faves and anyone associated with them to be like saints mhj might be weird but i think ppl labeling her as p3do is too much

[heady gate]

12 more days. ok

[wind monolith]

no its 10

[heady gate]

ready? I lost count

[short laurel]

ok so everyone here is on same opinion now right? lets move on from that topic then.

[steel depot]

guys... remind you... not today satan...everyday the girls remind us not to be washed up by these mess... we have to stick together...

[dapper root]

you can trust newjeans but think for yourself

[hoary frost]

so what do you think mod? u think theyll be better off without her? just asking

[dapper root]

i dont have an opinion in the matter

i dont know whats happening 24/7

someone of you guys act like you do know whats happening 24/7 when thats not the case

[hoary frost]

lol okay i guess

[dapper root]

i think min heejin is strange and quite narcissistic but hybe also sucks

but all companies suck to an extent

so theres no winners or losers here

just gotta hope the girls are happy

[jolly junco]

since everyone is just sucks lets newjeans be a stray kids on the streets

[dapper root]

STRAY KIDS MENTIONED!!!

[sonic meadow]

I’m gonna b e fr rn both hybe and MHJ are no better for me

[dapper root]

https://tenor.com/view/felix-skz-stray-kids-heart-finger-heart-gif-5016544928499747116

[jolly junco]

but the artist itself want her, what do you have to say

[heady gate]

Their parents want her too

[sonic meadow]

Honestly then they are done I love newjeans and still listen to their music I think they should’ve just stayed silent about the whole situation 😭 (IN MY OPINION)

[heady gate]

They are

[wind monolith]

☠️

[sweet pebble]

i am not losing hope chat

[hoary frost]

yea ignorance is bliss they say

[dapper root]

yeah man

im just saying

[wind monolith]

uk if they stayed silent they would have been put on hiatus for 2 years until they found a grammy producer

[distant gulch]

it's obvious a lot of you don't keep updated on what's going on if you think they should have stayed quiet or both "mhj and hybe are bad"

[dapper root]

i think min heejin could shoot someone in the head and if they girls still said omg i love min heejin

[wind monolith]

and that 2 yrs would have been most likely 5

[dapper root]

you guys would still be there riding

[tawdry vessel]

if you get mistreated and bullied you should stay silent? 💀

[dapper root]

and thats alarming to me

[heady gate]

Can you imagine how the girls are working in Hybe building in the next 10 days?

[dapper root]

really shows the competence

[wind monolith]

thats two diff situation u rlly cant compare something like that

[dapper root]

maybe im going quite extreme

but the point stands

[distant gulch]

based on what? what has she done that the girls or bunnies have "forgiven" her

[sonic meadow]

No but supporting mhj or even hybe rn at a situation like this is risky

[jolly junco]

there is no point if the comparison are extreme, please make a comparable situations

[cerulean lake]

i mean who else would u choose if a whole conglomerate is trying to erase you

[tawdry vessel]

sorry but you are a coward, thankfully the girls are not

[cerulean lake]

mhj might be questionable to some but considering that the girls know her the most and trust her i don’t doubt their decision even if it’s not the best in such an industry 😭

[hoary frost]

lol dont exaggerate things ppl ride for her bcuz nothing is proven yet and newjeans themselves our trusted source say she good then she good

[dapper root]

but what about the creepy photos with shinee?

[stiff prairie]

lmao there's still ppl who are not antis think hybe might be a better option? hybe should just release another leak to dispatch cause one wasn't enough clearly

[dapper root]

dont you think having taemin shirtless at 14 is weird?

when you are the creative director overseeing them?

[cerulean lake]

i’m not too sure abt that but i heard that taemin was concerned abt something else rather then being shirtless

[jolly junco]

like you said, you dont follow the news update 24/7 so you dont know every details. How can your opinion any better?

[distant gulch]

did you see taemin with the girls yesterday after they thanked mhj 20 times

[dapper root]

yeah? but does that still make it okay

thats what im trying to find out here

[cerulean lake]

not defending any weird actions but the fact that people easily call her pedo is a whole stretch

[distant gulch]

what was wrong with it?

[dapper root]

?

taemin at 14?

[stiff prairie]

you don't have to be offended for him if he himself isn't?

[dapper root]

being shirtless and sexualized?

[distant gulch]

he was 18 and shirtless

shirtless does not equal sexualized

[cerulean lake]

ok ik he was shirtless but i don’t think he was 14 that time

14 was like replay era which was their debut

[dapper root]

so maybe it was later

still kinda strange to do to your youngest member or anyone really

[distant gulch]

tbh shinee's whole concept was questionable. their debut was Noona You're to Pretty. in those early days MHJ would not have been in charge of their entire concept

[dapper root]

who was in charge then

min heejin was the creative director for years

she’s been there since 2002

[jolly junco]

lee soo man brooooooooooo

[dapper root]

she overseed everything

[distant gulch]

not mhj, she started as a graphic designer. even in her later days at sm, things had to be approved by committee

[dapper root]

when was she promoted

[distant gulch]

she didn't even have that much power when she left

in her early days she was only credited with visual design

[cerulean lake]

wait why is there another argument abt mhj wasn’t there just one ago 😪

[dapper root]

2009

is when she started into more directing

[young wyvern]

its ok not to like her. can we just leave it at that

[dapper root]

im just saying

[dapper root]

yes

the mood board and stuff

weird!

her taste in films SUPER WEIRD!

[sonic meadow]

Agreed

[dapper root]

you cant turn a blind eye to these things because your favourite idol said guys shes good!

[stiff prairie]

no they're not. i like horror movies doesn't mean i like horror irl

[dapper root]

she likes movies where a dude dates a child man

please

dont speak to me

[stiff prairie]

lolita?

[cerulean lake]

i’m gonna be honest objectively, if u think her film taste is weird you’re gonna also think millions of others are weird for watching movies w/ people like brook shields bc that movie was hella popular

[jolly junco]

Young-hu Kim and Yoo Young-jin were the directors for Shinee's "Replay":

Young-hu Kim: Directed, wrote lyrics, vocal directed, and recorded
Yoo Young-jin: Directed, arranged, vocal directed, recorded, mixed, and provided background vocals 

SHINee Interview: K-pop Group Looks Back on Debut Song ...
"Replay" was the lead single from Shinee's debut EP, Replay, which was released in 2008. The song was a hit, especially with adult women, due to its line "Noona (older sister), you're so pretty".

[young wyvern]

i understand. i dont believe not liking mhj = not liking newjeans

[distant gulch]

look. minor sexualization has been a problem in kpop for all companies, especially in 2nd gen. problem is they started debuting really young idols. sm debuted boa, shinee with taemin, fx with krystal. putting the blame on mhj is not correct

[sonic meadow]

This!

[stiff prairie]

i agree

[cerulean lake]

anyways it’s okay to not defend mhj but i think it pisses people off bc people use her to hate on nj

[stiff prairie]

but saying hybe might be better for them is straight up ignorance at this point of time

[sonic meadow]

Fr

[dapper root]

no one is saying that and if they did thats dumb

[cerulean lake]

nah you’ll be surprised on twitter

[sonic meadow]

Hybe is putting them at dungeon until their contract expires this might be their plan

[dapper root]

how about no company at all

first independent group fr

like the americas

[hoary frost]

lol i know now where you get your information from cuz why not talk abt the other posters in her house abt other non sexual films u pick one poster and judge her whole taste and yes if the person who spend 3 years around her says shes good ima believe them

[jolly junco]

yeah right just leave them on the streets to defend themselves against many conglomerate company

[cerulean lake]

i just don’t like ppl looping nj in with mhj and saying that they’re worried for them but then go around and diss them for her past controversial actions

[dapper root]

min heejin doesnt pay your bills lill bro

[stiff prairie]

that was their plan to begin with. did you see their debut report consist of anything but newjeans? hybe wasn't thinking but them from day 1

[dapper root]

she aint gonna marry you hop off it

[distant gulch]

ok? well, they are linked now. also, she should be judged on the best information available, not just narratives that came from twitter likes from fanwars

[hoary frost]

lol nice comeback u a kid or sumn

[steel depot]

💙 you guys we're so smart and brave just like newjeans. they're gonna survive this battle after 10 days. Stay calm.

[cerulean lake]

yeah i’m just saying in general bc all this crap started like in 2022 when the controversies first appeared

[sonic meadow]

Not liking MHJ or HYBE doesn’t equal to not liking newjeans

[cerulean lake]

but as a decent person i’m actually gonna look for sources rather than going off someone like sniper or reddit people

[young wyvern]

stray kids x newjeans

[dapper root]

yeah we should’ve said this 3 hours ago

but people wanna ride for min heejin like she owes them money

[cerulean lake]

i find it funny how reddit always ask for credible sources but then they go ahead and link ppl like sniper and mexjeans 😂

[cerulean lake]

honestly i feel like it’s a defense mechanism nowadays bc she’s technically the only person fighting for them + considering that people use mhj to hate on nj, they don’t want that to continue

[young wyvern]

kpop reddit is so irritating

[hoary frost]

lol its not even dicriding u just want to shame ppl who dont align with the narrative in ur head

[dapper root]

the girls are also fighting for themselves

which i love

[young wyvern]

ppl like to pretend theyre better than everyone else there but they're really not. you just have more characters to talk shit

[stiff prairie]

at least you don't think their spoilt brats groomed etc thank fuck

[cerulean lake]

yeah but when people use her to hate on them i kinda understand why bunnies then become defensive of her

[cerulean lake]

that’s so true omg they just write paragraphs and think they’re all that 😬

i used to like scrolling through there but once i realized how they were i don’t go there anymore

[young wyvern]

crazy how stans want idols to speak up against mistreatment and defend themselves but when they actually do they're called this

[cerulean lake]

they all say they’re worried and they say they’re spoiled brats or wh0res

terrible people

[stiff prairie]

stans want them to speak up but only when they want to and on their terms!

[distant gulch]

this whole d-riding thing is dumb. if people don't want to hear both sides of the story they say stuff like this. there's a reason why these pedo allegations make ZERO noise in Korea

[cerulean lake]

they only like it when the idols’ actions fit their narratives

[stiff prairie]

i took a lesson from omg vid. they're just there to sing and dance and cater to fans need and lose their own self identity

[hoary frost]

when u support someone they dont like they say u glazing

[dapper root]

pedo is too far

[hoary frost]

this is untrue. girls poster had nothing to do with movie. mhj said it herself.

[dapper root]

but knetz have talked about how weird she is

[stiff prairie]

people in art industry are weird in general ngl

[dapper root]

yeah

rolled unlucky

[sweet pebble]

ppl can be weird in their own way

[cerulean lake]

they’re eccentric is the better term

[distant gulch]

knetz talk about a lot of stuff, but what's important are the things that stick and anything have to do with this doesn't stick. even Hybe is not using this narrative

[hoary frost]

its all projection but i digress

[dapper root]

i just never understood why people like her mhj so much

[stiff prairie]

her creations basically

[young wyvern]

shes responsible for their creative direction and production

[sweet pebble]

maybe because nj likes her?

[jolly junco]

you dont follow the members phoning live much do you?

[heady gate]

b/c we are seeing her creativity

[dapper root]

is that the only reason

[steel depot]

not as a person but her creation

[sonic meadow]

I AGREE

[sweet pebble]

there is areason why nj likes her

[dapper root]

banger

[dapper root]

what are they

[heady gate]

It could be the reason why their parents like her

[stiff prairie]

like do you see any difference when you see lsfm and newjeans ?

[hoary frost]

because they know her unlike you miss

[tawdry vessel]

she treats them very well

[stiff prairie]

concept design call it whatever

[sweet pebble]

idk but its a good reason why mhj has good reputation amongst tokkis

[distant gulch]

i didn't even know mhj until the cookie controversy popped off. then i read the few interviews and respected what she said. the way she stuck with newjeans at debut and through all of hybe's bs up to now

[young wyvern]

kinda feels like youre just here to argue. theres so many reasons why bunnies like mhj lol its listed out for you

[dapper root]

i just wanted to hear some answers!

good answers

[jolly junco]

why dont you question why Director Shin Woo Seok only want to work with MHJ team

[young wyvern]

scroll up

[dapper root]

who the hell is shin woo seok

[stiff prairie]

who are you omg

[tawdry vessel]

unc

[wind monolith]

how did u get mod

[jolly junco]

ok now i know why you dont like her

[sweet pebble]

nah u trollin g

[dapper root]

i dont know who that is

[steel depot]

damien are you the real damien?

[hoary frost]

lol ask why most of her past artist still rocks with her from gen 1 to gen 4

[jolly junco]

then stop the hate train to mhj

[vague shore]

Is this guy a troll? All of NJs music has been selected by her, reflecting her personal musical taste

[dapper root]

oh the mv director guy

[jolly junco]

you dont know shit but keep talking bad

[dapper root]

yeahh

[heady gate]

u are fire

[sonic meadow]

2024 is very unlucky year and a leap year aswell

[steel depot]

the mood board here is like train to busan im losing my sht rn 😂

[jolly junco]

sigh you are no different than the followers of jjinjins and sniper atp

[sweet pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1000645204048625684/1295797073979117599/IMG_4631.gif

[dapper root]

i dont even know who those people are!

[wind monolith]

bro is not clocked in

[jolly junco]

then stop the hate train to MHJ if you dont know anything

[dapper root]

you know what i think im just not chronically online enough

im not starting a hate train

[young wyvern]

true i didnt know who those ppl are either

[distant gulch]

i'm leaving, but my final thoughts on mhj - She is a HERO for sticking up for Newjeans. If some confirmed evidence comes up against her, I'll change my mind.

[dapper root]

banger

[steel depot]

@modern fog you think damien is hacked?

[flint stone]

Omg, I finally read all, so many wall talks to read. Guys, just give source and don't try to change someone's opinion, it's really hard to do. And don't be so aggressive please, some people really just wondering and don't know something

[young wyvern]

this is such a fast moving situation its a little unreasonable for everyone to be caught up at once

[dapper root]

true

[hoary frost]

lol he rage baiting fr

[sweet pebble]

at the end of the day we still dont know which one is the good side but we are somewhat close to knowin

[modern fog]

nah

[hoary frost]

Either you support Newjeans or you don’t. Dont say it would be better if they ignored it yall r so weird fr switching up and all, calling Newjeans brave and industry changer then saying they shouldve kept quiet

Weird asf

[steel depot]

true

[dapper root]

i just dont spend alot of my time researching all of this but i guess some people do shoutouts to yall

[tawdry vessel]

the keeping quiet pisses me off

[hoary frost]

“I support newjeans, but they shouldve kept quiet. Ignorance is bliss.” Bffr

[jolly junco]

you cant changed their mind even with evidences, wasted effort

[hoary frost]

like i rather believe newjeans abt her than some thread on x and reddit abt posters and taemin

[stiff prairie]

you saying it like it's our fault for knowing our fav groups mv director 😭

[tiny peak]

MV director who is fighting for them too!

[dapper root]

naw im not saying its a fault its cool as hell

[flint stone]

That's what I'm trying to say, thanks

[dapper root]

i said i didnt know bros name and yall tried to kill me!

i rock with that dude

[steel depot]

what have we become

[red thorn]

Watch/read all her interviews/public speaking, testimonies from people that ACTUALLY has worked/know/close to her
Get to know her first
After that you free judge/form your speculations about her with the all kind of her rumours you have heard

[stiff prairie]

but how did you get discord mod when you're not chronically online tho? i thought it was a prerequisite

[dapper root]

and ur not gonna believe it i rock with mhj! for what shes doing as a person? questionable

thats it

[jolly junco]

do you even read all her past interview? i bet you dont

[vague shore]

There's no point in playing armchair psychologist. She's the only one who can protect NJ in this shitty industry. That's all.

[hoary frost]

i like her bc she is real. aside from the fact that she is visionary and genius who not only knows art but understands what market needs and ushered new trends each time she was in charge of groups' creative direction, she is highly intelligent and has set values/principles in life. when she speaks, based on analogies or references she makes alone, you can tell that she is not only educated but understands her eduction and it has shaped her philosophy and views in its own way. and I also like the fact that she is narcissistic, snobish, elitist and self driven. she knows she worked from the bottom. she was nobody when she started working in SM and changed SM in a way that even today her influence is still there. 15 years of career from nobody to executive director, a woman in Korean corporate world. Yeah, such stories are like 0.1% if not less. and everything else aside, she has been real in all her interviews which got her hate but i appreciate honesty and how unconventionally she approaches K-pop system even tho she dislikes idols.

[dapper root]

no im not constantly reading mhj interviews

i got better things to do 😭

[ornate vine]

there's a large spectrum between people who think mhj is a little weird to straight up accusing her of harmful pedophilic actions. its understandable that people get worked up and defensive of her when any discourse about her is brought up because a lot of antis online fall under the accusatory side of the spectrum. but we should try not to pile onto people just for thinking she is a weird, bc highkey everyone is a little weird in a way.

[hoary frost]

lol tbh i was more annoyed abt u calling us dickriders more than your thoughts abt her

[tiny peak]

like read misinfromation about MHJ

[jolly junco]

everyone got better things to do so dont blame people who supported her because they know her better than you

[steel depot]

ikr TT

[young wyvern]

hybe stans are actually dickriding harder

[hoary frost]

you do not read her interviews, know what nj thinks of her or anything but want to hear answers from US. do you research first before wanting answers for subjects that u dont have idea about

[dapper root]

i didnt blame anyone

[hoary frost]

like u think u special or sumn "unlike yall i think for myself" lol

[dapper root]

damn!

[jolly junco]

you did. In our eyes you did by saying us dikriding her hard

[hoary frost]

[dapper root]

im happy you are proving otherwise

[steel depot]

okay now

[dapper root]

i like to hear that you guys got legit reasons

[hoary frost]

we have nothing to prove here. if anything those who accuse her should prove it

[dapper root]

i rock with that

[steel depot]

[flint stone]

Now,everyone, stop texting, it return to wall talks again. Let's wait for news which we can talk about

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-oh-my-woah-whoa-cute-gif-4765390319311889096

[sweet pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/kang-haerin-haerin-haerin-peek-haeirn-heart-haerin-pop-up-gif-11157985076712252451

[jolly junco]

i thought you have read at least 70% of the things happened with her before you said your opinion

but nah you dont even know the 10% of it

[dapper root]

TRUE!!

[steel depot]

damien felt like a breakup earlier not gonna lie

[dapper root]

how!

[hoary frost]

yeah and in realty ppl who think like that never research on their own and just take whatever is said on twitter dot com as a matter of fact

[hoary frost]

? What is this for 😭

[flint stone]

Where is the guy with dog gif we need it here rn

[jolly junco]

FLASHNEWS: we dont want to make a wall read too BUT

bunnies dont like it when someone ragebaiting OR spread misinfo and influence other people to ride the hate train directed to NJ or anyone related to them

so we need to correct this kind of people

[hoary frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948917132459130940/1302379768557338736/togif.gif

Its ok everyone

[flint stone]

Thank you

[steel depot]

[stiff prairie]

listen to baldji

[dapper root]

its okay at the end of the day

we love newjeans

true…

[hoary frost]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-pup-puppy-doggy-baby-gif-5551796

[short laurel]

this part. i agree that's really bad behavior of fandom. this is exactly how hybe stans are. but situation here is also different.

[tiny peak]

anyways this is so beyond MHJ now, after we've learned HYBE is rotten to the core, and that makes the antis mad, because demonizing her was their goto

[dapper root]

fuck hybe fr

[sonic meadow]

What did the girls do to hybe to get treated like this again?

[steel depot]

yup hybe stans, not us

[tiny peak]

and nearly everything she said during her coke rant was proven to be true with actual facts and evidence

[dapper root]

fuck the fans also hating on illit

[flint stone]

We need to correct, but if person don't wanna know true there is no sense to continue. Just source to correct info should be enough,probably

[dapper root]

shoutout my girls

[wind monolith]

Nothing

[sonic meadow]

exactly

[cosmic bison]

Are enemy is here?

[dapper root]

https://tenor.com/view/illit-wonhee-kpop-lee-wonhee-k-pop-gif-2795262080892292224

[dapper root]

legend

[sweet pebble]

dawg i feel bad for illit

[jolly junco]

just a lost soul, not enemy

[short laurel]

one can atleast praise MHJ for giving girls rest after every cb. like who in kpop had treatment like this? only MHJ provided it that i know of. so MHJ deserves respect and praise for it.

[stiff prairie]

they weren't endorsed by the big guy himself so he couldn't take credits for their success and bsh want nun of that

[sonic meadow]

Thank you omg ate

[wind monolith]

We need hollow purple

[dapper root]

im living rent free it seems in some heads

[sonic meadow]

BSH is the most hypocritical person I’ve ever seen sorry not sorry for saying this

[tiny peak]

you're just stating facts

[cosmic bison]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-gojo-satoru-gojo-season-2-shibuya-incident-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-105956634505265534

[young wyvern]

hot

[dapper root]

thats why bro died

[stiff prairie]

he likes to play hide and seek. he'll hide when anything neg comes out about his company but will be the first one to take all the credits

[dapper root]

too busy on discord aint fighting the real fight in shibuya

🗣️

[steel depot]

you just described what a narcissistic means

[sonic meadow]

I agree

[hoary frost]

lol bro rage bait and think he did sumn

[dapper root]

im not rage baiting

i wanted to understand your and others thought processes

and i get it now

[hoary frost]

aight bro i guess ur different than us

[dapper root]

i guess we are

we can agree on somethings and disagree on others

its called being human

[stiff prairie]

bro is the bait himself. but i don't mind cause i like contrasting opinion. if everyone had the same opinion life would be boring

[dapper root]

didnt bait anything 🤞

[short laurel]

it helps us to c from other prospective too incase we get too much biased and blinded. but the thing is on twitter we are constantly seeing this ...

[lucid yarrow]

i would love hear what u think about japan and anime if some poster on a wall make u think that badly of a person but let not get off topic

[short laurel]

so many tokkies are also going wrong hating on idols instead of company. especially after belift ceo interview.

[dapper root]

LOL

[young wyvern]

why does anyone even use twitter anymore

[dapper root]

thats so funny goly shot

[young wyvern]

especially after this election

[dapper root]

hahahahabahah

im framing that one fr

[stiff prairie]

kpop is very reliant on twt sadly

[sonic meadow]

Yep

[short laurel]

unfortunately translators are on twitter.

[jolly junco]

to get news

[young wyvern]

bluesky seems like a good alternative

[stiff prairie]

from votes to quick fancams to news updates to everything

[sonic meadow]

Yeah we just use X/twitter for the news and even charts

[dapper root]

thats my queue to sleep ohh thats funny

i hope everyone has a lovely day evening or night

[short laurel]

charts these days are very fake too. pay for ads and numbers go high. can't trust that much. just enjoy what u enjoy and not worry about numbers.

[sonic meadow]

I just miss old kpop

[short laurel]

hate to say it but old kpop was not any better. things were just less visible.

all we know is companies didn't learn anything from all he backlash from the past.

[sonic meadow]

This is just proof that no companies are actually innocent and had either done something bad one way or another

[short laurel]

yup

[sweet pebble]

yh hanni got tired and voiced it out

[short laurel]

that's why have to praise MHJ more cuz she atleast tried to bring change in industry with NJ.

[jolly junco]

not just entertaintment company, all business are dirty, nothing is clean thats all you need to know

[sweet pebble]

except honda cz their k24 is goated

[arctic swan]

Hop into this chat after 8 hours and start the same conversation again when the other side of the globe is active to see their perspectives as well.

[stiff prairie]

nah njcord is pretty chill. you just need to go to the main subreddit to see the other side's perspective 24/7 straight

[jolly junco]

you need to have 72 lives at least to do this

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-krusty-krab-crawling-crawl-fish-gif-23583867

Me after tdy in this chat

[arctic swan]

I just noticed they've been challenging tokkis here for the past 10 hours or so, mostly talking with people on the east side of the map. Also, I realized that those who are active while I'm asleep are strong defenders too

I'm catching up on everything while walking home from work😂

[wind monolith]

I will always defend nj everyday of my life

[copper jetty]

Wth did i just read. People just be waltzing here... is this an open server??

[copper jetty]

At least it slowed down. Also weird how they started after newjeans letter or the kgma. 💀

[cosmic bison]

I will stand with newjeans forever

[wind monolith]

I spent my precious hw time to defend

[jolly junco]

what even weird is that the mod was the one who started it

[wind monolith]

Who also had 10% knowledge of the situation

[short laurel]

did anyone come here took screenshots and spread it on reddit yet ?

[hoary frost]

Whats weird was someone saying Newjeans shouldve kept quiet

[arctic swan]

I dont think newjeans is her ult

[wind monolith]

Next thing uk jjinjin posted screenshots of us

[copper jetty]

id be honored. Lmao

[copper jetty]

Why are they a mod then??? Seriously shouldn't we question this??

[rain spade]

ask the mod if he knows tony leung

[copper jetty]

Lmao tony leung?

[arctic swan]

I have a feeling the people who created this server might not be the biggest fans of NJ. Could they be using it to spy on us? Also, is this the largest NJ server, or is there a more official one I could join?

[jolly junco]

the owner of the server are 10000000% NJ fans

[rain spade]

Yep

[jolly junco]

no need to doubt it, but they are not that active anymore

[wind monolith]

Its just we have had some questionable mods being put

[arctic swan]

Why is damien an admin and a mod?

[jolly junco]

there is another NJ server, but yes this is the largest one on discord

[heady gate]

fire that mod

[tiny peak]

mod was giving reddit informed, good to know there are other servers just in case

[wind monolith]

National discord petition

[short laurel]

ok. no need to discredit them. they may not be fully informed but they are kinda right that that ppl here riding mhj too much. we have to make sure not to become like hybe stans n do blame mhj IF something something about her do comes up.(i hope there's nothing though)

[wind monolith]

Ya fs if real solid evidence does come out then i would never support mhj

But for now there is nothing solid

And first most i support mhj cuz nj believe in her they know her better than all of us combined. Nj and the parents wouldnt support someone horrible.

[split bramble]

yes, with the influx of foreign idols, women empowerment movement this new gen of idols are less likely to take the companies BS

NJ have opened the floodgates, as usual they're the trailblazers

[copper jetty]

Ok let's remember when this sub was first opened a lot of us (including myself) were anti MHJ and a lot of us were cursing her too. It's just that most of the things that people accused her of was debunked that's why most people here look at her at a better light

Also people were not driding mhj. The most I read were just correcting people's misinformation. So I don't know why he said d riding.

[hoary frost]

Danien getting cooked

[wind monolith]

😭no plz

[sonic meadow]

Same but this doesn’t mean I don’t like newjeans

I do think she is very creative

[valid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

[hoary frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948917132459130940/1302379768557338736/togif.gif

[copper jetty]

Thanks baldji

[wind monolith]

I dont think evaah can see our messege hes still at the very top

[lucid yarrow]

nah i dont think so if like that kpop reddit going pin that post there forever until lawsuit ends prob be years all hater will keep repeating the same fake crap forever

[copper jetty]

Yeah. The most that we could do is to just debunk things when it appears but it's honestly tiring.

[jolly junco]

you almost ignite another 🔥

[rain spade]

Don't bring her back lmao 🤣

[steel depot]

don't summon her anymore...

[copper jetty]

Also where are we at guys what day is it before newjeans 14 days ult??

[steel depot]

10days

[thick needle]

What happened?

[jolly junco]

h-10 now

[flint stone]

that girl that made fun of Hanni at kgma again 🤡

[copper jetty]

Honestly I feel respect for k bunnies that they didn't boo her off of the stage

I would've cause that snl skit was racist as hell

[copper jetty]

How??

[ocean arch]

Istg crazy things happen only when I'm not around

[copper jetty]

We can invoke that guy again if you want. Ping it

[flint stone]

that one from snl korea if i remember name correctly

[cosmic bison]

0T5 FOREVER

[wind monolith]

Alr guys idk y im awake at 5am imma go sleep

[copper jetty]

Yeah she was there. Honestly if I was there i would've booed her off of the stage.

[jolly junco]

do you want it to happen when you are around? what are you planning to do

[copper jetty]

There was no joke. The joke was the person itself so it's racist

[flint stone]

she is there on day 2 too

[copper jetty]

I'm talking about the snl skit they made with Hanni as the subject

[ocean arch]

Live reading is better than back reading

[lucid yarrow]

but they apologize so it all fine dont need good crazy for ppl mistakes

[copper jetty]

They mocked how hanni talks and her accent?

[copper jetty]

They didn't??

When did they apologize?? Cause I don't see anything?

[ocean arch]

They just said their intent was to mock the politicians not hanni

That's not apologizing

[copper jetty]

That's not what I got from watching the skit tho...

[astral dust]

*x -c https://x.com/minixzzz/status/1858072122901639377?s=46&t=kXGhBk_3DiP7ccDDKf8qcQ

[harsh dove]

@minixzzz <t:1731833890:d>

Court ruling on plagiarism

[ocean arch]

Yup we all can see it

[astral dust]

Is this a win?👆

Nvm. It’s old news

[ocean arch]

To be fair,u can't know the comedian who played hanni was a racist or not but the writers sure are

I just hate it because I was a fan of that comedian on running man and because of that skit I can't watch running man which I've been watching for over a decade anymore

[jolly junco]

is this new?

[copper jetty]

Maybe. But the thing is the way they're making fun of how hanni talks. I'm just thinking if a white person acts like that and mocks an Asian for how they talk people would be calling racism.

And if vice versa is racism then why aren't we calling the original skit they made one?

[copper jetty]

No it's the result of the first injunction

[heady gate]

It should be old. I see the title CEO Min Hee-jin on the sheet.

[split bramble]

yes even in June court accepted it was a case of plagiarism, and that was before the whistleblower revealed that betheif copy pasted MHJ's files and before the industry report leak containing plans to harm NJ

[heady gate]

The whistleblower is a hero

[neon igloo]

There were some long discussions about MHJ above. Here's my advice: watch her full interview with Hyundai and her interview for Japanese TV about the girls and Bunnies Camp. That way, you can draw real conclusions about her as a person.
MHJ is a very well-read and intelligent woman who supports her ideas with references from books, films, and old music. It's impossible to create all of this while being the "stupid pedophile" that some try to portray her as.

Just try to form your own opinion about her as a person, rather than relying on someone else’s tweets

[heady gate]

They are not going to watch the interview. They already form their opinions from her prior works.

[hoary frost]

Not trying to bunch up mods as a whole but how do they choose mods in this server
A newjeans server mod whose ult isnt newjeans is crazy

[jolly junco]

i need to pin this on my private notes, so everytime someone like engine or damien come i'll just copy paste this

[tawdry vessel]

mel and co deserved to be kicked out but atleast you could tell they cared about nj and this server a lot

[hoary frost]

Whos mel and co

[tawdry vessel]

other mods

[hoary frost]

Im disappointed in damien

[copper jetty]

And they for sure did their jobs as mods. I'm not saying that mods now don't, but sometimes the servers here ends up unsupervised. Which i haven't seen before.

[sweet pebble]

sometimes its peaceful even with inactive mods. tokkis be disciplined

[rain spade]

i don't like how they locked tthe chats though

[tawdry vessel]

they did some questionable things yeah

[cerulean lake]

hybe executives will start coughing in approximately 12 hours 🤭

omg im turning evil this is not good

[copper jetty]

I think it's because if there's disagreements other tokkis breaks it up or call the mods. But yeah, this server knows discipline and how to discipline others.

[cosmic bison]

OT5 FOREVER

[wheat raft]

well just know that no matter how malicious mods or people try to silence or put us, nj or mhj down

the mjority of members here will still truly support newjeans and their choices

so we dont have to worry

[arctic sky]

You might be surprised that even the owner of this server was a Hybe stan lol. I don't know his stance rn but I was debating with him in the beginning of this saga.

[hoary frost]

No wonder why some mods slip through like this

[wheat raft]

besides, imagine how incredibly insulting it is to the girls to think that they can't think for themselves

worst thing you could do as a "fan"

[hoary frost]

This is overstepping it btw

They’re young but theyre not dumb

Dont want to start anyt but this is real disappointing 😂😂

[wheat raft]

anyway its easy to tell whos an actual fan, if they are inactive, don't partake in nj activities and only appear to counter argument in mhj thread ...you know they are probably the people who dont actually support nj

[wise wagon]

i agree, but also am i the only one a little sad at the amount of hate and belittling they're receiving from other fandoms?

i hope the girls dont read these comments because some are genuinely awful

[thick needle]

....

[wheat raft]

unfortunately sometimes some tokkis spread hate on twitter to other fandoms too and it leads to this vicious cycle

[arctic sky]

They are usually multi stan or an akgae simp not having NJ best interest at hearts.

[wheat raft]

i found it more productive to support NJ positively

giving positive messages, attending concerts with binky bongs, voting, making videos

[wheat raft]

nothing wrong with multi stans tbh, i know many, in here as well

but they truly support nj

but the bad ones of course spread hate and cause internal conflicts

wouldnt even call those multi stans tbh, they are just a fake nj stan

[wise wagon]

you're right, that's what i've been trying to do on youtube posts too especially >< but every time someone posts something positive about them, the replis flood with misinformation and backlash that it gets exhausting

im so happy the girls have each other to go through that though

[wheat raft]

just pose a simple question to them and they can't answer

"what have you done to support nj?"

[arctic sky]

what i mean is that NJ wasn't their ult grp and they admitted that they love NJ and support NJ but their actions proved otherwise.

[wheat raft]

yes those are not good

[hoary frost]

Like someone we know earlier…

[steel depot]

nearing the ultimatum we're getting lots of challenges here...

[thick needle]

who would let this guy be a mod? and he didn't know about shin woo seok

[wheat raft]

also i speak to alot of bunnies on tiktok, instagram, and saw alot of bunnies in korea

the fake fans wouldnt even partake on any

so if it provides any comfort, in reality newjeans are still getting lots of love

we have the hardworking non-toxic nj combatants on twitter like 1tokki fighting for us anyway

[wise wagon]

its comforting to know other idols support newjeans too, it gives me the sense that the hate really is unjustified (understandably so too)

[wheat raft]

yeah its honestly just a small subset of the internet that is bad

focus on the good ones and you'll enjoy your time here for sure

ultimately

bunnies can defend newjeans wihout name dropping other groups

thats how we'll win in the end

[short laurel]

this is gonna be brought up in the case filed by belift creative director and she's gonna lose.

[mild spade]

OT5 already mentioned it themselves, don't worry about them.
so we just need to stand with OT5 and support their choices as they will go down in history to change kpop.
there's no point in bashing others or saying anything bad about their decisions
as part of the fandom, we need to believe in their dreams.

[hoary frost]

“I stand with newjeans, but don’t trust their decision and we shouldn’t listen to them and think for our own. Also, MHJ is bad”

[wise wagon]

i have a question, since im not reslly up to date about that
what did mhj do that makes people dislike her sm?
ive seen some talk about past actions but i dont hve much insight on it

[mild spade]

i'm not saying that MHJ is 100% awesome, but sometimes doing the right things brings you a lot of hate.

[short laurel]

women successful = public hate.
even if u count all the allegations against her. the amount of stuff other people in this industry did is alot more worse than her and barely get any hate.

[mild spade]

commercially, she did her part of the job, to get NJ to where they are.

[short laurel]

also everyone who've worked with MHJ have only praised her. EVERYONE (except that fake B)

[hoary frost]

Im so happy that Newjeans has parents who support their decisions

[mild spade]

people in management, only what to hear "yes sir, yes sir, 3 bags full" once you start to challenge them, then a mighty smear campagin against you begins.

be it in a company of 1000+ or 100+. ask me how i know.

[hoary frost]

Watch out guys someone might say we’re dickriding again

😂😂😂

[short laurel]

move on from that already.

[hoary frost]

Oops