#NJZ Updates and Discussion
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tbh for that case pledis is complacent too. mhj is the one here we can root for in oder to get best outcome for the girls but on pledis i don't think they trust on anyone. I'm not that much well informed tho
is that the payback date for mirae assets?
was it november 5th?
Everyone keeps bringing that up like it's so important but what does that mean, what can we expect? How will it affect things in the future?
if hybe is out of money they might have to resort to selling a sublabel or a group. in this case nj can get out w the ip if someone w enough money can come and take them out
I can only hope. And then MHJ's lawsuits making them pay even more. I can dream, can't I? 
-prayjeans





I ask questions and read everyone's opinions all day every day and still have no idea what a realistic future is.
nobody does tbh
241101 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1852399872651211101
HYBE Employee "Gathered Courage After Holding Back," Releases Additional Internal Documents… "Reverse Viral Marketing Was Actually Planned"
https://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=15566006#google_vignette
By TopStarNews Reporter Lee Suhyun
An individual, presumed to be an employee of HYBE, has released additional
241101 Phamkuromi Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Phamkuromi/status/1852407193431355779
Once again, NewJeans has been right from the start, ppl just refuse to listen to them...Thanks to their bravey, the tip of the iceberg has been exposed. Even though it may not completely shut down that awful company & that pig, it could be a positive sign for NewJeans’ freedom…
Aw man
Mr Bang seems to have strong government connections. Unless we can find cracks in his relationship with the government, bang pd will not go down easily. There is a reason why he is so arrogant
his family is politics family. he was never a small guy. or small company.
Oh man the tea is pipping hot on twitter, the BLINKS are pilling on HYBE.

lol the most easiest way for him to go down is if a bts member directly calls him out and not some cryptic ig post
I wish BTS members were as brave as NewJeans but nooo, they only use cryptic text to convey the messages
jk's insta post was very clear but those ratarmys were just vile creatures
saying he's hacked or got brainwashed by mhj
i wish they would too bc it would hurt bang pd’s ego but i understand why they might be hesitant
it’s not easy for idols to speak up against their own boss
Honestly, with BTS coming back, the attention will still be on MHJ/NJs vs Hybe
I meant GD, Jin, Rose, Jennie, Aespa, etc… are having comebacks but right now people are still focus on MHJ vs Hybe saga
And this’s with Hybe having control over media
Unless Hybe can somehow put out this internal report fire, they’ll be in huge trouble.
we need that petition to reach at least 50k signatures for maybe some movement
idk about "huge trouble" honestly they'll probably get away with a slap on the wrist and some execs fired
hopefully bsh and whoever is responsible for mistreating fromis9 are fired in this process
@newj25287 <t:1730472456:d>
하이브 시발새끼들 조지는거 도와주세요
https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/onGoingAll/24A986BA667116B0E064B49691C6967🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
This can only be signed by koreans I assumed?
yeah sad we can’t sign it
Huge trouble as in their artists, their artists are their livelihoods so….
But maybe im using too much common sense to Hybe.
there has to be like extra legal troubles for them to really get in trouble
since when have they cared about their artists lmao? I doubt actual stans will pass up tickets to svt, enhypen, etc. thus, their artists will be fine...except newjeans
and, the way patriarchal societies are...I doubt other artists will speak up against hybe unless they are bts
Tsk. Im glad they picked Hanni as the lead for this whole sage in a sense, she’s being raised in AUS made her more incline on speaking up.
hybe runs free because they have i-army supporting them, and the fanbase is huge
unfortunately their own fandom will witchhunt them
its sad but instead of supporting BTS the fandom seem to treat the members as tools representing their own ideologies
Yup
like if the members have xxx conflicting opinion, instead of supporting their decision they attack them instead, saying they betrayed army
they will have more opportunities for freedom since public opinion is so against HYBE. thanks to our girls of course
when NJ show support for MHJ we had some toxic tokkis that doesn't support their decisions either, calling others brainless for not thinking for themselves and just following the girls
but if you dont support the girls decisions and think you are smarter/better than them, you are no different from i-army
its funny when people think they know more than the girls themselves, who are literally the ones at the hybe building
luckily those tokkis are smaller in numbers and in general now most tokkis are on the same side
did anyone catch that HYBE monitors discords too? there's a good chance they've been monitoring this thread 
they probably monitor everything lols
if you scroll far back in this thread you would find some people strongly against mhj too
it seemed like this was the only place in the world where you could find pro-MHJ or neutral discussion. those were quite the days, watching HYBE media play and smear campaign unfold
twitter used to be pretty split but i think most tokkis i see are on nj/mhj side now
reddit still has a subset of people who hates mhj with a passion tho
I’m curious tho, who is this whistleblower? This documents were supposed only for c-level exec right? So they are the only one who can leak the documenets
yeah and I appreciate the efforts of people here to see through HYBE media play barrage. I know it made a difference
This guy aespann jeans created a poll. Which is worst taeil sxal assault, mhj nj etc.. he is weird https://x.com/jjinjins/status/1852456776089924035?t=-2WaGIVZnJdMxFitJ5Gy_A&s=19
He is not weird. He is evil. By using that sexual assault case, he want to create impression that NJ and MHJ are at the same fault of that person, same category
I'm glad the comments on his post called him out. I hope he rots to hell
i wonder how these people live their lives though 🤣
like can you imagine, everyday you wake up and filled with negativity, plotting how to spread negativity
unless....they are being paid of course
I am pretty sure that person is always boiling with steam in the head and foaming in the mouth and plot new misinfo. He lives a pretty pathetic and tortured life 😂
I live by this 
241102 Phamkuromi Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Phamkuromi/status/1852537023556681777
📝Theqoo HOT:
“The person who triggered HYBE report, NewJeans Hanni”
“Getting involved in politics must have been scary and difficult for idols, but she, Hanni bravely stepped up. Thanks to her, Kim Tae Ho was summoned, and the report was disclosed. Hanni, thank you.”
241102 teatp11 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/teatp11/status/1852533741933187459
@billboard Leaked documents from HYBE have revealed they have been conducting a smear campaign against artists from other companies.I suspect the massive amount of fake news and malicious comments about Min Heejin& NewJeans on Reddit are tied to The Agency Group PR LLC(TAG),acquired by HYBE
241102 iseauseamee Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/iseauseamee/status/1852550089719599357
It’s Hybe’s fault from making us
From this Into this
The original post this is replied to, A big joke
How bang got asia game changer. All he did was got lucky with 1 group
241102 halfeldian Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/halfeldian/status/1852543939796218194
I want every Tokkis to save this screenshot
Jaden Jeong posted on his private blog around same time as the recent leak doc, shielding bsh and kang myung seok
Now I wonder did he posted after or before reading the leak doc
https://theqoo.net/square/3469091312
For all the talk that this is industry standard practice and all that, it seems the industry severely disagrees with it being standard practice lol
😂 i just saw blackpink fanbase and also their individual fanbase for each member attacking HYBE, demanding for each company that represent each artist to sue HYBE for defamation
what a good day to be tokkis 
3
good to know
those agencies that were mentioned should have sued hybe in the first place
241102 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1852646415077675469
Op was getting a haircut at the beauty salon and started talking about the HYBE documents. As soon as op mentioned Lim Young-woong, the elderly people around op got fired up and op gathered 5 signatures for the petition!
🥹🤣💪✍️🫶
IJBOL 🤣 🤣 🤣
One more ally
now we only need for lim young wong fanbase to spread the words
that guy is like a national treasure of south korea 🤣 even purple fandom helpess against them
241102 Phamkuromi Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Phamkuromi/status/1852630250817249582
This is something that everyone seems to know that HYBE monopolizes & manipulates media.
Within 17 hours of the report being released, fewer than 10 articles covered it. But when Hanni said she would go to audit, over 200 NAGATIVE articles targeted her IN JUST A DAY.
Not to mention, after Hanni returned from the audit, instead focusing on NewJeans being mistreated by HYBE or the concealed death of an employee at HYBE, there were countless articles nitpicking her fits, her salary, abt who did she take selfies with, & her pronunciation…
241102 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1852643315415671181
Kim Geon-hee, the wife of South Korean President Yoon Suk-yeol, has visited HYBE before
LOL crazy
Lyw fans dont play around 
that's one artists no one in kpop should mess with even in private. hybe's biggest mistake to even have mentioned him.
Does anyone here knows where to find more documents of hybe internal report in English? Because people keep saying it is just a collection of online comments. I wanted to slap it their faces😆
a total 19 pages translated
Okay thank you. Downloading it now. I wish I could see the 18k pages 😄
alot of comments are hybe's own. national assembly said that publically.
Right. Ive been telling them that it's in the writers' pov but they are still in denial 🤷
hybe stans. ignore them. hybe insulted even BTS yet they defending hybe.
Is it still in the process? Is the translator planning to translate more documents then update us?
i think so far the leaked documents are only a 20-30 pages, they didnt leaked all 10k pages at once
the whistleblower said he already sent some to reporter/media for coverage but they said its difficult to write an article about it (IMO they dont have the courage to disobey HYBE)
meaning HYBE still in control over the media in south korea
Oh that sucks
our only hope is for the whistleblower to leak the documents like this so bunnies fandom can translate it on our own
Does that mean HYBE got their top company awards due to nepotism? Just to get the benefit?? Damn…
When the ministry said they dont have HYBE application and evaluation material it seems like they really won the awards due to nepotism
Bsh got award in usa so his bs reach is far
Asia Game changer award. He changed the game to more p2w.
We need the top company award to be taken back and tax audit to be done. This needs to be done, please pray god 🙏
Petition is over 31k/50k already n it's only 3rd out of 30 days. National assembly will take serious action hopefully once it's reached
they need to lose some serious goodwill at government level for that to happen
Yes
when can the evil go down? When can justice prevail? So many people were hurt because of this. There have been many victims because of Hybe bully in the past gfriend group, fromis9 etc. I wonder if there are any good people in the government who can stand up. This affects not only Korean society but international fans as well.
They should but Hybe is related to the government. Corruption is too deep.
Government consist on multiple parties. It's already brought up in na n hybe was shamed hard. Reputation of hybe is down cuz of na's help. So dw
241102 newjeansnews_ Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeansnews_/status/1852729610188058893
[theqoo - hot] NewJeans and Hanni who were the main triggers upon the HYBE internal documents getting released
https://shorturl.at/T3ydR
241102 ahntokki23 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/ahntokki23/status/1852644852892045596
Hybe really wanted to cyberbully Hanni to d**th by ordering those pro-Hybe news sites to reopen their comment sections, allowing a flood of hate comments against her. Bang Si Hyuk & his lap dogs are indeed the most monstrous monsters of Kpop.Basic human values found dead in them.
Sigh
I swear i have ZERO interest on HYBE group after april 22, like literally
I delete every song and dislike every song from HYBE except newjeans. I know its not the idol fault but i cant help it
I dont even want to watch any content from hybe idol, it makes me want to vomit just to think they are from hybe
Unless they speak up against hybe, with no code. Just fight against hybe head to head like newjeans did
I'm the same when it comes to listening to songs on Spotify there's a good chance some other group's song will come up and just take me out of enjoying music and remind me of all this horrible stuff going on. I do check out the HYBE girl groups new releases as they releases, just listen to them once just to have an opinion and to compare.
I didnt even check out their new releases, i hate HYBE that much. I havent heard the songs, at all
Never in my life i hate something this much
i feel u its the same here
the problem is i hear the song and it just doesnt feel right knowing whats going on
Hybe really just ruined my love for kpop
Exactly
I thought I wasn't enjoying K-pop since after Supernatural released because of the HYBE situation, but to be honest it was just there weren't any releases I liked until aespa's new album. 
But my interest in K-pop in general has dove off a cliff. I barely listen to K-pop music in general. I do however continue to listen to NewJeans almost every day.
It's good to mix other genres.
I think knowing more of what is going on in the K-pop industry ruins it more for me compared to groups I just casually listen to a few times when their new songs release which I usually don't have much knowledge, I tend to just enjoy the music on its own without other things clouding that.
Also u guys should block artists u not wanna listen to on Spotify
Open artist's page on Spotify. Besides follow there's 3 dots click on it
There don't play this artists

You can just like all the songs you like and it’ll make a list
GREAT! thanks
Ads unfortunately
nope, the "smart" spotify will still recommend me those 2 songs
Usually I close Spotify when ads come on
But that’s just me
Not thise ads. But music ads. Like song stuffed in smart shuffle
Alot of hybe payed songs in there. Waaay tooo much
i just hope that HYBE wont touch solo singers, because i reallyyyyyy really love listen to soloist
when hybe decided to take on soloist path, thats the day they will ruin my love for korea song
the media play is so disgusting. I'm glad people are seeing through it and many are still supporting Hanni
can you imagine an artist with less influence or fans?? No wonder so many artists in the industry take their own lives
That's why entertainment articles has comments closed
disgusting journalists
With how imbalanced the number of articles about the leaks vs Hanni negative press I'm surprised to hear that Koreans generally understand the truth of what's going on anyway, despite it being hard to even find proper news about it.
Is there any media play since the 18k pages report released?
The fact comments open in hanni's is crossing a line. Again... Industry c mistakes they made but nvr try to solve it..
I've been reading the MHJ yap session from the other day and so far it's a great read.
It's funny how I don't like weekends now because typically there's no progress with anything important to progress this situation further.
Good time to go out n distract yourself for a bit.
Testing my patience for sure
i dont like to admit it but tbh this whole situation made me less eager to check out stuff from other groups 😭 and it’s sad
definitely still like the idols but i’m not as caught up anymore like before this whole mess
NewJeans got me into K-pop. HYBE is kind of getting me out of it.
I've become completely pessimistic about this ability for K-pop to grow any bigger. It reached it's popularity peak, I bet. BTS comebacks might be the only thing that's going to be big again.
NewJeans feels kind of separate though. I felt like they could have been the first NEW big thing to rival the most famous groups. But they never had the chance to really get there and push even harder after Get Up. They remain ultra popular in many countries, but they're not worldwide famous in the way BTS and Blackpink are.
Why are my yaps so off topic lol (I'm stopping myself going further
)
Bts n bp didn't become big since debut. It was slow steady but kinda quick growth.
Nj are on track to that, they only 2 years old group. It's just hybe bs ruining it
I say all this without really caring. It's exciting to get swept up with the hope of their future and talk about that, but it's not really my focus. I've often wondered how a group being BIG affects my feelings on them.
I think being in a huge stadium with a insane Binky Bong ocean is the only real reason I want them to be BIG. Just being part of that ocean and seeing it is quite literally one of the things that will stay with me the longest, hopefully until the day I die.

sometimes i forgot they are only 2yo 
N yea kpop popularity reached it's peek. They are trying to expand in countries with big music market but it's very limited push. But so far it had no much progress
idk bp were already big since debut; they had like the record for fastest PAK
well at least in korea but they were able to be popular overseas very fast too
but yes nj were on path to be even bigger until this whole bs derailed them
yeah these days it’s a lot abt music too
Yea cuz yg group.
good music , good vocals , "decent" company will get u everywhere
honestly, I don't see the need for newjeans to become "the biggest" or achieve some crazy fame.
Would love if they could just continue to do what they love, with a nice non toxic fanbase, producing amazing music
Numbers and metrics are so arbitrary for the sake of comparisons and fanwars.
same
totally agree
i enjoy their music, their content
i dont look at their achievements
The achievements are the result of their music
yeah and twitter would always focus on those. Kinda annoying that with freedom of speech the loudest ones are the annoying ones
If nj become any different, fandom will be no different than other groups fandom. Toxic af
honestly theres alrdy tons of toxic tokkis farming engagement on twitter with the hybe reports
It's already so toxic with tokkies like lia
esp just constantly namedropping other groups
yes but shes not the only one. There's alot.
Luckily the big tokki accounts are generally good and avoid speaking about other groups
Yea but comparatively their numbers still kinda low. Atleast i c very less compared to others.
yeah because our fandom is a decently optimal size rn
pretty big for a 2 year old group id think
Hybe earnings report and bond payment due in a few days.
Not only do they need to repay that but they also need to repay us for all the emotional damage too. I don't think even Elon could afford that though.
Speaking about wanting them to be big earlier, it annoys me all this focus on voting and numbers and the competitive side of things, but what's important is their impact and influence.
im so happy that hybe got exposed, ive seen so many ppl hate on hanni and for what? she stood up for ALL artists and they act like she's js doing it for herself :( i hope njs will continue fighting and release nj1 maybe next year after they get a break
i think supporting newjeans via voting is a good gesture though, at least fans can feel like they are part of something.
But shouldnt be overly serious on it till the point anyone is "disappointed in the fandom for not voting enough"
241103 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1852896377505780142
Remember this part of MHJ’s email to HYBE management?
Shared services my a*s.
They actively discriminated against ADOR/MHJ/NewJeans and even lied to harm NewJeans/ADOR with the brands.
I don't like feeling guilty for not participating but it's the whole system I'm not a fan of in general. It's only there to get more interest in the shows the votes are part of. It's nothing to do with the artists.
It's really interesting to read stuff from the start of all this drama. All the new stuff recontextualises everything or there's now evidence for stuff we only heard and had to believe MHJ's word.
true
I also don't like voting or streaming.i think it should happen naturally.when the song is good u want to listen to it many times instead of playing it over and over for the sake of numbers.but with voting I just do it because it feels like it's the least we could do for them(nj).I don't vote for other groups 
is this the one where they tried to steal hyein's LV deal by lying to both ador and LV?
That's the only brand deal dispute we know
yes
afaik HYBE already paid ADOR for their mistake about this
then sued mhj for revealing contract when all she and lv did was compare contracts to find hybe's lies
I don't know about that one. Sometimes all three align and still it doesn't hit big with general audiences
241103 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1852910130079347181
HYBE's Criticism of Lim Young-woong: Will Its Top Enterprise Status Be Revoked? Over 30,000 Sign Petition
https://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=15566329
By Oh Seorin
(Top Star News) The petition calling for the cancellation of HYBE's designation as a “Top Enterprise” surpassed 30,000 signatures
already did and others still doing it dw
241103 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1852918735893561352
This is actually a very interesting question and the only way I can answer this is through what MHJ said in her cine21 interview:
“There appear to be several misunderstandings stemming from ADOR's beginnings as a subsidiary within HYBE. To put it bluntly, ADOR was established to
You are the best
Thank you!
241103 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1852919417128071190
MHJ in her internal email to HYBE management in April basically saying BSH, you only have “yes-mans”.
“Reflecting on these incidents, it is hard not to think that Chairman Bang Si-Hyuk lacks people around him who can objectively assess industry trends and offer candid advice.”
241102 pannkpop Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannkpop/status/1852710565585781087
A petition to revoke HYBE's 'top company' status with over 60% approval in real time, Knetz react https://pannkpop.com/a-petition-to-revoke-hybes-top-company-status-with-over-60-approval-in-real-time/
241103 Jon0807 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Jon0807/status/1852902931370213663
MHJ being the only one in that building with morals and character, yet THEY labeled her a witch and a hag. I'm thankful every day that Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein fell into her arms cause as we've seen, she's not the type to let go and run away.
241103 allkpop Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/allkpop/status/1852950886529601969
Nexon employee says HYBE's report is similar to what Nexon has been doing https://www.allkpop.com/article/2024/11/nexon-employee-says-hybes-report-is-similar-to-what-nexon-has-been-doing
Hybe stans still defending hybe in the cmt saying other companies do it too 
Topstarnews posted about it. This should attract lyw's fandom. Auntie's support coming!
HYBE strategically generates attention for their groups by creating situations that attract negative press & fan backlash, only to frame their artists as victims, garnering sympathy to keep them in the public eye. It’s such a shameful cycle, how are these idols not embarrassed…
Wth. The copied rv too balantly
i’m not surprised is other companies do this but the fact that hybe is in the entertainment industry where it’s mainly real ppl being affected is worst and the fact that several industry veterans came out to say that this should not be normal
plus wasn’t nexon that one game company where the park jiwon former hybe ceo used to be the head of? these practices do be passing on 😬
He definitely brought it over
Made by same person apparently
Now whose integrity should be questioned, the creator or the company, can't believe whoever responsible let this slide
only photographer or director is same??? IN the overall planning for RV chill kill alot more people were involved. so both the photographer or director??? and somu has no integrity. and the fact that lsfm members look up to RV makes it worse...
I feel bad for the artists
Isn't the photographer not only a photographer, he create/write the concept too because industry hire him for his signature imagery
yea but he didn't made all that alone for chillkill. he only did photography for it.
overall concept though is still very different for both.
correction: it's director for both is same????, photographer is different??? i m still confused about i cuz of how fandoms are using it. but point is plagiarism or not Hybe is doing their reverse viral tactic on this.
Is it confirmed that Cho Giseok directed lsfm’s crazy jp version?
word from luvies is he didn't but no official source yet. waiting on that for clarification.
it depends, if they hired the same person to ask for the same aesthetic and style then thats on the company
241103 DRoxex96085 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/DRoxex96085/status/1853040787111719006
@allkpop It's concerning to see that HYBE's internal reports take a similar approach to Nexon's, where former CEO ParkJiWon once worked. But idols aren’t like game assets—they're real people, and discussing them in such detailed internal reports feels inappropriate and dehumanizing-
241103 DRoxex96085 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/DRoxex96085/status/1853040807240245291
@allkpop 2.I read through some of the documents, and it’s clear these insights come from the writers themselves, not random online comments. Given the personal nature of these reports, it feels wrong to treat young individuals in this way. This kind of reporting shouldn’t be normalized.
yea that's the main argument.
it's mentioned here
i cant understand anything but saw this livestream going on rn
https://www.youtube.com/live/F08sa5_YtgU?si=UGoK5jUJT8KCd29f
대형 연예기획사인 하이브가 다른 기획사 소속 가수들의 외모를 품평하는 듯한 내용이 담긴, 내부 보고서를 작성해온 사실이 국정감사에서 공개됐습니다. 미성년자를 대상으로 한 부적절한 표현도 쓰여 있어 비판을 받았는데요. 논란이 커지자 하이브가 닷새 만에 사과했습니다. 가수 지코가 하이...
probably just a recap by SBS
nice that they are covering it though
After Hanni's appearance at the National Assembly, I just wanted everything to be over. Sometimes, I wish MHJ hadn’t held the press conference so NewJeans could continue making music without all this scrutiny. But when those internal documents were exposed, I realized that the truth needs to come out, and HYBE has to be held accountable
but if she didn’t hold that conference hybe would have shelved them without any consequences
this all wouldn’t have happened if hybe didn’t start media playing a whole damn “audit”
Yes they are evil. They need to get exposed. I just feel bad for Newjeans that they had to go through this
I know NewJeans is getting a lot of hate on Twitter, but it’s just as bad on Facebook. Since May, Every news post from sites like Allkpop and Koreaboo about NewJeans is flooded with negative comments, especially from some toxic armies (though, of course, not all armies are like that) calling them ungrateful, "they deserve it". Sometimes they obviously didn't read the article
koreaboo and panchao had been pro MHJ since may btw.
I don't know abt panchoa but koreaboo isn't pro mhj .they just write whatever headlines that will get them more clips
When Koreaboo posts positive updates about Njns on FB, the comments often claim they’re not credible or are pro-MHJ. The truth is, they have multiple authors with diverse perspectives, so it’s unfair to dismiss them like that
When false rumors started circulating on X that MHJ claimed they paid for NewJeans' brand deals to compete with BLACKPINK, people began spreading the Blind post on TikTok to support the claim. I like that someone from Koreaboo fact-checked it and clarified the origin of the rumor, stating that MHJ never made that statement. They also pointed out that 'The Blind' shouldn't be taken as an official statement from HYBE
When koreaboo posted this on Fb with the headline: "fact check: did mhj paid for brand deals....." The fb comments are so stupid. Its either they didn't read the article or they have low reading comprehension
241103 jeanszinee Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/jeanszinee/status/1852934297155785203
i mean.. this is what happens when we do more than send trucks and funeral wreathes in front of companies and trend useless hashtags.
241103 kapsoo Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/kapsoo/status/1853055492245065948
SBS NEWS, Thank you!
SBS 그것이 알고싶다 방송 나오나요?
오늘 밤 아시아 등 전 세계 TV 방송사에서 하이브 HYBE 문건 뉴스 다루었음. #민희진 #MinHeeJin 대퓨님 SBS TV 나왔습니다. #뉴진스 #NewJeans
NewJeans Never Die
Link to the petition for Korean fans: https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/registered/24A986BA667116B0E064B49691C6967B
241103 kapsoo Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/kapsoo/status/1853023875099201947
5만명 go!
하이브 으뜸기업 선청 취소 국회 국민청원 중요한 이유! 하이브는 현재, 정기 세무조사 유예, 신용평가 우대, 통합고용세액 공제 등 혜택 받음. 으뜸기업 취소될 경우 이런 혜택 박탈!
(매일경제 김소연 기자) “하이브 으뜸기업 취소해주세요” 4일만 동의 3만↑ https://naver.me/GNWpeYMK
13217 more signs
yeah, it is moving slow, needs to boost everyday
36k in 4 days is not slow. these remain active for 30 days. so it's really fast
Oh is this the first time this specific news has reached Korean TV?
True. South Korea has 51,717,590 population. 36k in 4 days is not slow.
Would be nice for everything to go down on the 5th. 
It is on avg 9k per day. Let's see the result in 2 days.
K tokkies say what we can do is to spread the links. Other fandoms don't like Hybe as well, so I posted links and ask people to tell Korean fans to sign. If you can do that with your followers or connections, it would be good
241103 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1853102217726709766
Witness could get 1-10 years in prison for perjury during a National Audit.
Belift CEO/HYBE COO must have been out of his mind or just arrogant to incriminate himself like that.
FakeADOR CEO Kim Joo Young too.
There has to be consequences for these thugs.
Hope this happens.
btw why hasnt the petition passed 50k yet, ktokkis carrying everything by themselves, even when every other group and fandom got dragged into the mud they still not doing 1% of the things ktokkis are doing for their faves
Tell them, tell big accounts of them why the petition is needed
i read this morning there was a svt fanaccount that shared it. i didn't follow on that post though
Nice, seventeen fans are logic people
carats are most chill in kpop
241103 darkdane0525 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/darkdane0525/status/1853026992947610051
아침 7시45분 확인후 12시간이 지난
저녁 7시45분 현재. 3만5천7백여명
화력이 떨어지긴 했지만 꾸준히 증가하네요.
더 힘내봅시다
- 국민 청원 : HYBE 하이브 으뜸기업 철회
비회원로그인 -> 핸드폰인증
1분이면 가능 합니다.
https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/onGoingAll/24A986BA667116B0E064B49691C6967B
37k now
Come on Korean Bunnies make us proud
yo i was watching this pretty big IRL streamer that jasontheween collab with and i saw snoopy MHJ in her phonecase i guess NJs is really that group in the streamer community
Wait I think @sly python made that sticker
Nezst have her the sticker during Twitchcon
wow she still has it 
The best solution now is to make all Hybe CEOs to be removed and jailed. And in order to do that we need the petition to be 50000 as soon as possible. The sooner the petition ends the more time we can save for National Assembly to check the petition and tax audit. Please make effort to spread the words to K-pop fans on different platforms
241103 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1853118835991425287
Since SBS is affiliated with Kakao, it currently holds shares in SBS M&C, which manages broadcast advertising sales; SBS holds 40% as the major shareholder, while Kakao holds 10%. Kakao and HYBE are fierce rivals, that’s why SBS stepped forward to criticize HYBE🤭
241103 aidorudaisuki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/aidorudaisuki/status/1853060772433457576
(2024.11.03) Morning News (เรื่องเล่าเช้านี้): Part mentioning #HANNI
Sorayuth (The Reporter) "The reason this issue was raised by the South Korean national assembly was because HANNI, a member of NewJeans from HYBE, couldn’t stand seeing how badly artists were being treated, so
241103 newjeanified Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeanified/status/1853089179531411491
is there no way we can support team bunnies as international fans ?😭 like they’re working so hard and we’re here doing nothing 😭
241103 krystal_anne88 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/krystal_anne88/status/1853106345719083408
@newjeanified We need the petition to reach 50K. Ifans can’t obviously sign so I think our only hope to speed the petition is if other Kfandom signed too. I was hoping K-Carat & K-EXOL can help since they got huge fandom & is a victim of HYBE too. Maybe if there’s a way to convince them.
International bunnies, use your connections and followers to spread this. You are all very capable
k-blinks too.
it was mainly lisa focus news but in thai now hybe is big bad 😄
BP is huge in Thai.
Need more beauty salon grind for the petition
241102 whitexbaek2529 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/whitexbaek2529/status/1852862518546567437
여유로운 일요일 하루 되시길 바랍니다🩵🤍🫡
일단 차 한 잔 하시고
몸 좀 깨우고 시작하는건 어떠실까요?
저한테도 리스크가 왔는지 체력소모(- ?!)
역시나 잠은 보약이 맞습니다.
모든 버니즈분들 힘내시길 바랍니다-
어제 좀 이러저런 얘기들과
🎤 노이즈가 있었을텐데요.
What happen? so
241103 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1853198640300556763
Timing of this RSU gift along with usual suspects like the Belift CEO 🤢
Jooyoung Kim, CEO of HYBE subsidiary ADOR, who recently attended a National Assembly inspection, received 2,141 shares, the highest individual amount, valued at approximately 420 million KRW (USD ~315,000).
241103 Jon0807 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Jon0807/status/1853143673850257888
Anyone else find it ironic how HYBE is full of failed gaming industry execs that haven't been able to get much traction in gaming, yet the one group that have been making waves is the one that they've have been trying to destroy?
Someone explain to me this 315k the fake CEO got cos I'm dumb
reward for being a good soldier and perjuring themselves at NA
now if someone submits police report with detailed explanation of which points they perjured on then they can count their money in the prison
hybe not a well run company at all lol, its a circlejerk of patting each other on the back
even if nj-mhj situation never reached this level all their misdeeds would have been revealed anyway, cause hybe cant help themselves
Everything bad is their doing.
241104 pannkpop Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannkpop/status/1853258605539271081
Nexon employee says HYBE is copying what the game industry is doing, Knetz react https://pannkpop.com/nexon-employee-says-hybe-is-copying-what-the-game-industry-is-doing/
Hybe should have focus on making music. oh well
its Monday, anything new from HYBE media play? 
ngl media play has been dead for a while
It has been dead since the 18k pages report
they dont know how to media play the leaked documents 
can the petition reach 50k faster 😭
they tried and immediately got their ass handed to them 
18k + 900 on last Friday. 
what's it at now?
18900
oh i thought we were at 30-something thousand for the petition already
I heard the petition was 32k. I am expecting more update today.
almost there
37670*
dont worry, we got 25 days left. Plenty of time to reach the target
with 26 days to go too
37668/4 days = 9417 per day
cuz they def getting the top company thing revoked if it does go thru
its not 100% even if the petition going thru, HYBE will do everything in their power to avoid the tax audit
i feel like theres too much evidence against them tho
i still can't believe our relatively small fandom is fucking over a conglomerate 
HYBE underestimate Team Bunnies too much
like holy hell, i thought nothing was gonna come from the first Team Bunnies statement, but the domino pieces just kept getting larger
i also thought it was silly and fruitless, but here we are 
i just know MHJ and Newjeans isn't playing around, they even got Axton to love newjeans (i'm 99% sure the reason Axton use newjeans is because of his personal love for newjeans)
damn they even use hanni phoning live video for the pop up store event
if thats not a die hard tokkis then i dont know what is
FYI, Axton is the heir of the top conglomerate in Indonesia
his net worth is waaaayyyyy bigger than what BSH have
lol i remember them saying to hybe to do not underestimate the power of fans and now they standin on business
im still waiting for their evidence against hybes pr team the one with the reporters statements
i thought they said they cant reveal the evidence? because they already submit it to police for the investigation
we've been on the up lately, we just need the ADOR fam back together, then it's sunshine and rainbows next year (pls bro pls)
but man these police sure taking their time...........
police eating donuts
nah i'm afraid they are on the golf course with the rest of the reporters
No, they are eating kamchi.
i think some of them are just lobbying to get some money from hybe
they already have 1 police in custody due to the embezzlement, who says HYBE wont get another replacement
Hybe earning report and bond payment on Nov 5
since its monday will prolly get some statements from each side today
hybe’s been quiet i think their US PR team is too busy with US elections
You are correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Salim
Anthony Salim, born Liem Hong Sien (Chinese: 林逢生; pinyin: Lín Féngshēng; Pe̍h-ōe-jī: Lîm Hông Senn; born 25 October 1949), is an Indonesian businessman and investor. He is the head of the conglomerate Salim Group and the chairman of First Pacific, a Hong Kong–based investment management firm.
bruh everyone in our country know the salim group 😭 he is part of the 9 dragons, the people who control our country
just like samsung control south korea
and newjeans is the FIRST foreign celebrity for Indomie ambassador, it says ALOT
they NEVER use foreign celebrity
and here people thought that the new fraudor management was the one who got this collab? NO axton team said they reach out to MHJ 9 months ago for this collab
wtf has Fraudor done these past 3 months besides the bare minimum 
She attended the NA
I literally have no idea. I'm glad they still let them record By Jeans and record new content but I doubt fake ADOR has much to do with that.
bunnies will riot if they dont let the girls record by jeans
I'm just thankful everything seems normal content-wise so far, except for the obvious.
Things would be dire if we didn't even have that.
i think their team has still a lot of power on what the girls can do its just the decision if they can or can’t release it
perf directors, managers are still OG ador so they probably helping to maintain and carry on nj's vision
honestly, we can keep living on this content cycle for a long ass time until they're ready to release music again
I do wonder if 250 or FRNK are willing to provide fake ADOR new remixes for upcoming award performances.
Ofc there are more things to worry about but let me just wonder out loud. 
But if we dont get that we can rely on amazing performances for sure. They haven't left yet.
guys does anyone have like a solid source of information regarding everything from newjeans and mhj and hybe like from the start to current? 😭 theres sm news and its overwhelming and im getting confused bc I’m NAWWWT educated on this at all
/r/newjeans megathread maybe? Honestly I'm not sure. So much has happened and I've been following it as the months go by I don't really look for an overall recap.
check pinned message
okok
Either way trying to catch up is gonna take hours if you haven't been up to date
is there an actual megathread?
avoid the /r/kpop one
i dunno maybe the pinned messages here are better - i just worry some important stuff wasnt pinned
uhhh, yeah, you probably don't wanna read EVERYTHING from start to end, because there's a lot of bullshit to sift through, some being no longer relevant.
oh
it's better to just know the main events and then just keep up with whatever's happening now if you want to
yeah even some old stuff that was said by some people now has solid evidence that actually happened. old stuff becomes irrelevant or changes over time.
but some people have posted timelines before if you're interested in a broad summary
best to just ask questions in here if you wanna know anything tbh. rather than spending hours catching up
i do hate not having sources at the ready tho. do people on twitter just have a library of sources to back up their claims or something cos some people are really good at that stuff.
There's also a blogger called asian junkie that summarizes everything in a neutral-ish way. https://www.asianjunkie.com/tag/hybe-ador-internal-war/page/5/ It's a lot of articles but they're short and it covers EVERYTHING
even the shaman
petition has already gone up a couple of percentage points in the few hours i've been tracking it. maybe like 1% per 1-2 hours
(i'm not even tracking it, i just see updates on twitter constantly)
they will reach the goal in a few days i know it.... the whole south korea hate HYBE 
good good crossing all my fingers for HYBE'S downfall
Even in korea nj ambassador for lotte n hyndai card thing, both companies are much much bigger than hybe lol. N bangs pr dared compare him to samsung lol
Not even bare minimum.
241104 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1853296744072896718
Three Pivotal Moments in the ‘HYBE Crisis’
https://www.ilyosisa.co.kr/mobile/article.html?no=245641
Reporter Jang Ji-sun
The Start as Internal Conflict, The End as Corporate Collapse?
It all started with HYBE. But it’s also HYBE that is now plummeting. Once reigning at the top of the industry, even being
241103 haerinizy Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/haerinizy/status/1853060536813932617
Exposing liabizz for setting up newjeans again…
A THREAD 🧵
unpopular opinion but he definitely isnt a setup account, just one of those tokkis that got disillusioned with kpop due to this hybe mhj drama that has become toxic cause other fandoms attacked njs relentlessly so they fight back
She might be a fan coz every fandom has its bad apples. If she's setting up the Tokkis, that's just plain pathetic.
and another unpopular opinion, accounts like lia dont bring more hate to the group because the hate would be there no matter what but it is just used as a scapegoat reason as why others hate. twitter could be filled with 100% tokkis pandering to bts and other communities and those communities will still hate on njs no matter what
Probably she's young and need to get matured. But I agree some toxic people on X pretends to be a fan. Like sniper on straykids and twice but all her tweets were about hate on nj
lol i just assumed because of the name lia that he was a she
but i dont think hes a set up, hes just a war freak
i think so too
yeah i'd always assume alot of twitter fans that fuel the fanwars are young and immature
Thx god
this i disagree though, these things spread like wildfire lmao
My thing is I know it spreads around but it doesn’t create new hate it just becomes a “justification” for the other fandoms hatred that already existed. Most people would see a crazy post like that and be like “damn that person is either mentally ill or chronically online” and then move on with their life
Anyone engaging in fanwar is spreading hate. Best action is to just ignore them n drama maker will go away silently.
this
i feel like we can defend our idols without attacking other groups
like what 1tokki is doing
attacking others just bring about this endless loop of toxic fanwars
Yea, war is against company, all idols are victim
Which is why I don’t think what nj defender is doing is the right move cause you are just giving someone your platform for exposure and attention
That thread ain’t gonna do anything but send Lia more interactions
Nj defender is a bad account imo.
Even in qrts
https://fxtwitter.com/Liabizzz/status/1853138225633886333?t=BxhojTr7eJB8VJM5RAcboA&s=19
funny thing i had that account muted but only saw it when it was sent here lmao
they be attacking one another now
Lia calling out lia
twitter is so bad
i love instagram, its not as toxic
fyi twitter does give payouts to accounts with good engagement
he’s not neutral. he’s trying to appear so, but he’s clearly anti-mhj more then he’s anti-hybe. i don’t remember which post, must be one of the recent ones, but he was “shading” mhj and painting her as a weirdo for being “nj’s mom.” his commentators are even worse
is it only me or is the petition site down
there's very little source in english community that is even slightly pro MHJ or neutral. most are pro hybe.
even after the internal doc leaked by NA
👆 
lol yea site not working.
if hybe or anyone tempered with this. that'll be HUGE scandal. not something anyone can handle unless it's dictatorship. so if hybe really pulled something, they are sooo done.
yeah, i think there’s none. I’ve not seen a neutral international side, ppl’s words towards mhj/nj is always harsher than towards hybe
they are not that big to the point they can tempered with government website
president wife is. she has visited hybe
Yeah but for what reason, could just be some pr bollocks
the fact it's like that even after the leak. really shows humans has no integrity.
i kinda wish hybe really are dareing enough to pull something like this. i want hybe to make all the worse mistakes so they have less and less chance of getting away.
cuz of what we have for now. BSH will get away and executive will be dismissed at most.
he put the blame on weverse price increase on them afterall
🤣🤣🤣
also i didn't mentioned it here be4 but after looking at hybe fandom's last decade's content. so many things they've called NJ and MHJ, these guys done the same to themselves but proudly. all the things they are said to mhj and nj is them projecting. and their own twt history is proof of that which is crazy.
sometimes i hype up dumb takes on x or tiktok just so more ppl can see how dumb their takes are
juantokki said IP from outside korea are restricted
oh thats weird tho i was able to visit it before
Oh that's a good decision if true
yeah i think they just changed it today
Nope for me
Not sure traffic or the said restriction
https://m.entertain.naver.com/now/article/001/0015025085 the iphone ETA sbs performance issue brought up again
didn't they blured the apple logo. so why is it a problem now ?
they bringing this but not hybe document leaks
it'll still take a while
i guess bsh tryna butter up their executives with this RSUs they know another audit is coming
some fandoms claim that ever since this drama the controversies on their groups has reduced.
Sounds about right
Writers and outlets have so many column inches for newjeans, everything else is less relevant
This feud still top number 1 issue in entertainment
this include fandom war. people are making argument that hybe could be putting all those drama of their groups after the hybe internal report leaked. and in report employee said that hybe used them for viral marketing
Ahh
Whether it's placebo or not
It's good to keep that sentiment haha
yall know abt the ytuber called D’angelo he usually cover random stuff he did one with rize before yall think hes good to make one about NJs without misinfo
like i think we need someone with good rep to atleast clear some misinformation to intl fans and locals
I dont think there is any youtuber who brave enough to do that. I mean not because they are afraid of hybe, but the backlash they gonna get from ratmys are going to be BIG
yea but tbh i don’t think ratmys have that much control outside kpop bubble i mean dont get me wrong armys can be a nightmare but most of the real armys only move when bts is directly involved like if someone openly disses or disrespects the members
some who make videos on scandals said they not making one yet cuz k media spread alot of misinformation.
they'll make it once all this is over
that make sense
Expecting Stephanie Soo cover this up once this concluded
i was talking about stephanie soo above
Hm, she covering certain hot big issue currently even tho the case still on progress
But for this hybe feud the info and evidence is not clear or strong enough for her to cover just like the case above
I think she got a lot of criticism on the Fifty Fifty video so she might avoid another kpop related video altogether. Even if this concludes, there's too much noise and people won't have their minds changed.
it’s such a shame re: stephanie soo with the fiftyfifty video cuz she has a team of researchers
241104 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1853336784589205781
HYBE Faces Fallout After Internal Documents Leak → Nearly 40,000 Sign National Consent Petition… Boycott Movement Also Underway [TOP Issue]
https://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=15566872
Top Star News Reporter, Oh Seorin
HYBE is facing a significant backlash after the leak of internal documents,
241104 ahntokki23 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/ahntokki23/status/1853384031124996289
Apparently Hybe got this award only through Bang's nepotism. WTF is "the evaluation committee has thrown away the evaluation data/documents regarding Hybe"? It's a blatant cover-up in broad daylight 🥴
241104 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1853337877071187985
'2023 MMA 5-Crown Winner → 10 Million Views' NewJeans, Absent This Year?
https://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=15566888
Top Star News Reporter, Lee Suhyeon
Attention is focused on whether NewJeans, who won five awards, including a grand prize, at last year’s 2023 Melon Music Awards (MMA), will attend
atleast tsn very active in raising awareness
This is wild. What do they mean that the eval for that got thrown or disappeared??? Huh???
They probably were never properly evaluated in the first place 😭
lol i saw alot of ppl blaming nj and mhj for that group’s situation like there isnt hundreds of pages of evidence of who really are sabotaging that group
I think i saw somewhere that they're blaming both NJ and mhj regarding other company's artists not engaging in that group's tiktoks. Lmao
Like it's not NJ or MHJ fault... it's probably because of that NA audit leak.
tbh i kinda feel bad for those grps and u can definitely see it now since their international grp is gaining some success they prolly going all in and give the other 2 the txt treatment
Tbh, I don't know much about the other groups aside from what I see on social media so I have no idea on the txt treatment. I know about the en- one though, them not getting enough rest.
I tried getting into other hybe fandoms at the start of this year but with what happened this April I was turned off. I have all the hybe groups muted and blocked aside from newjeans.
Wait did nothing actually happen on Monday in Korea? 
Well tomorrow's a big day for HYBE at least. 
Yeah I was expecting media play Monday too but so far none. I think it started after the NA leaks. Hybe went quiet. They couldn't media play that sh*t out.

Wait what's happening tomorrow for hybe??
@newjeans0422 <t:1730733598:d>
Bond payment due and earning report
who is not engaging with who ?
most likely the other girl groups in Hybe.
None hybe artists not engaging on tiktok challenges with belift gg.
The only ones on their tiktok are mostly hybe groups
It's this btw..
im guessing other companies know whats going on 
after that report leak, i'd be surprised if anyone wanna do anything with hybe groups. 🤷♂️
also did hybe brought grammy winner producer for illit ?
Hybe groups avoiding illit is wild
no hybe groups are not avoiding illit
Ah non hybe groups
It's understandable if jyp groups and sm groups are not doing TikTok challenge with them
but again and again. it's always bang produced groups fandom who act like victims when they getting every promotion they can.
SM fandom dreams to get this much promotion for their groups man.
241104 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1853453624791404628
🎉40K🎉 LETS GAURRRRR
40349 now
Think it went up like 7% in 17 hours. Not too bad. Obviously it's slowing down but we'll get there soon, there's no doubt.
during day time when u refresh again and again with 2-3 sec wait, u c number increase little by little.
They don’t attend MAMA after MAMA mistreated them badly. I don’t know why people still think they will this year.
yea hybe removed previous 2 board and put his 4 puppets
idk why i always thought ador bod had 4 members incl mhj
actually i m not sure. too many things happen. hard to keep up with everything
They did promote with Triple S though
No way tripleS did something with hybe's group. Not after modhous story about hybe doc.
what is happening tomorrow again
hybe powerpoint saying how much money they have or something
oh yeah earnings report
MMA and MAMA is different no?
they are both mentioned in the tweet
yes different awards show
MMA is held by Melon and MAMA is held by Mnet
everyone pls help us vote on idolchamp for AAA
ah ok. too many abbreviations lmao
@CakeDegg <t:1730766984:d>
[Exclusive] Min Hee-jin: “HYBE, don’t cover up wrongdoing with money and power… I hope the rotten parts of the organization will be renewed”
After failing to secure reappointment as CEO of ADOR, Min Hee-jin has given her first media interview, strongly criticizing HYBE. She stated, “The reason I have continued this painful battle is because I do not want NewJeans to become a scapegoat.”
OK weekly fighting start today!!
Full Statement by Former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin:
All allegations made by HYBE through an illegal audit are entirely fabricated, nothing but a made-up story.
HYBE has loudly publicized that “the audit began on April 22,” but the audit questionnaire they sent on the 22nd was filled with absurd content and low-level questions based on personal information they obtained illegally. This indicates, shockingly, that even before the official audit, they had already unauthorizedly accessed and illegally acquired personal information to formulate questions. This is not how a legitimate investigation is conducted; how can personal information be obtained without consent prior to the start of an audit? This is truly disturbing.
What was the reason for this sudden, illegal audit? I believe it was because I openly pointed out and criticized several issues and mistakes by Chairman Bang Si-hyuk, former CEO Park Ji-won, and BELIFT LAB CEO Kim Tae-ho in front of all HYBE executives and board members. They held a grudge and decided to target me with this petty, retaliatory audit.
Despite the increasing personal costs, I have continued this long and painful battle primarily because neither I nor NewJeans have any reason to become scapegoats for HYBE’s absurd and unjust form of retaliation. Additionally, I hope that HYBE’s previous wrongdoings and misdeeds will be exposed, and that this will be an opportunity for this corrupt organization to be reformed.
I hope for a society where wrongdoing can no longer be covered up by money and power.
조이뉴스24 창간 20주년 설문조사 '엔터업계 파워피플' 1위 어도어 대표이사 재선임 부결 후 첫 언론 인터뷰…하이브에 강도 높은 비판"괴로운 싸움 이어온 이유, 뉴진스 희생양 될 이유 없다" 민희진 어도어 전 대표가 입을 열었다. 민 전 대표는 하이브를 겨냥해 "이번 일을 계기로 썩은 조직이 쇄신 되길 바란다"며 "돈과 권력으로 악행을 덮지 말라"고 강도 높게 비판했다. 민희진 어도어 전 대표는 조이뉴스24가 창간20주년을 맞아 엔터업계 종사자 200명이 참여한 '2024 연예계 파워피플' 설문조사에서 1위에 올랐다. 이에 민희진 대표는 서면 인터뷰를 통해 "2024년 엉뚱한 사건으로 크게 회자된 것 같아 개인적...
@CakeDegg <t:1730768220:d>
[Herald Economy = Securities Department] HYBE announced on the 5th that its operating profit for the third quarter was 54.2 billion KRW, down 25.4% compared to the same period last year.
During the same period, sales were reported at 527.8 billion KRW, a decrease of 1.9%.
Net profit for the period was provisionally estimated at 1.4 billion KRW, a drop of 98.6%.
Bang sihyuk'pick 😭
fighting mhj!
This is good article
a drop of 98.6%
👀
The pinned is only one answer to the Q&A. There's a bit more here.
yeah i read from this one too, this is the complete Q&A
even before the official audit, they had already unauthorizedly accessed and illegally acquired personal information
241105 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1853597198258409685
[Exclusive] Min Hee-jin: “HYBE, don’t cover up wrongdoing with money and power… I hope the rotten parts of the organization will be renewed”
After failing to secure reappointment as CEO of ADOR, Min Hee-jin has given her first media interview, strongly criticizing HYBE. She
@cato_o_o <t:1730768276:d>
Stock is up 2.1%.
haven't read it all, did mhj said anything about the issue in the full interview besides the pinned one?
It's a two minute read. There's not much more to it than what you pinned.
I'll just add the source
HYBE building yearly rent is 1.7 billions KRW? how are they gonna pay it if the net income is only 1.4B?? 🤣
MONTHLY rent.
Anyway net incomes gets to 1.4B KRW after spending 1.7B KRW a month on rent. Net income is after all expenses total.
oh cool, we're looping back to the beginning, the audit. finally back to the main quest.
is it monthly or year?
i'm confused
I need a source. To be honest I only read 1.7B KRW monthly on Twitter without a source for rent.
A very very quick Google shows 18B KRW yearly rent.
OMG so its really 1.7B monthly
241105 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1853601454327845133
Full Statement by Former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin:
All allegations made by HYBE through an illegal audit are entirely fabricated, nothing but a made-up story.
HYBE has loudly publicized that “the audit began on April 22,” but the audit questionnaire they sent on the 22nd was filled
241105 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1853613630807478771
HYBE is using NewJeans' million-seller achievement with their Japanese debut single to promote their own company performance. How did this happen, Mr. Cho Sung-hoon?
This makes me laugh so hard, Hybe wants to use NewJeans when they face challenges, and kick NJ to the road side if they don't need NJ
241105 Phamkuromi Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Phamkuromi/status/1853608953378480460
Two reasons to continue the fight:
First, to protect NewJeans from being used as "scapegoats" for HYBE’s irrational and hostile retaliation.
Second, to expose HYBE’s wrongdoings in the hope that this will lead to a reform within that corrupted company.
241105 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1853602380300055024
[Herald Economy = Securities Department] HYBE announced on the 5th that its operating profit for the third quarter was 54.2 billion KRW, down 25.4% compared to the same period last year.
During the same period, sales were reported at 527.8 billion KRW, a decrease of 1.9%.
Net
who wants to invest in this rotten corrupt company, even an ant knows how scammy it is
The problem is revenue isn't falling and that's what investors look for the most. The only way hybe falls is with svt and bts leaving.
I was hesitant to say this because I don't want the discussion derailing but can we please stop reposting the same thing multiple times. 
jungkook and taehyung, I'm counting on you
Even 1 or 2 members would be a huge blow for them
I think of BTS turned into a group of 5, their global fandom is so huge that I don't think that would be a massive blow like you hope.
I would say 60-70% of them are fans of those 2. Would they continue to support if they leave?
agree
revenue is falling but they cover up, audit is the key way for reform
Hybe stock is up 3.4%
🧐 investors are so easy to be fooled
Revenue barely fell, and it will definitely rise again when BTS are back next year. As for the big drop in net profit, all it means is that they spent a ton of money this year, which makes sense because of the HYBE 2.0 plan they announced in the middle of this year. It's a bit of a no brainer for investors. So yeah, the only way to truly cripple HYBE I also see is if their big money makers leave.
Yep, I think twitter tokkis are clowning a bit
also they dont get audited so can just underreport to not pay taxes
I want tax audit to remove the executives, then big money makers can leave, please JK and V I am counting on them, be logic, please save NJ when they leave 🙏
Hmm... just recently, HYBE PR was calling reporters to "correct" a "mistake" in the reporting, insisting that NewJeans did not sell well in Japan as they expected and their Japanese debut was not that successful... then why are they saying this now???
"3분기 하이브 매출액
based on MHJ's comments I dont think she wants to leave, she wants all the dirty deeds exposed so she can sweep in for a takeover
yas 
JK and V will not leave. That means abandoning BTS (if I'm understanding you right) which is a big no if you know their bond. And each of the members have strong ties to their staff, so I wouldn't get your hopes up.
The Korean government banner stock short selling on Nov 1, 2024. Now, the rich people would make more money than ever.
She's said it a million times that it's "not about the money" and she just wants to "be left alone to work with NewJeans". HYBE is making this impossible.
two-faced mfs
oh, they still want to be abused by Hybe ?
I am a realistic person, if someone bully me, i will not stand still for them to continue doing that, either leave when my contract is done so I can start anew, why people like being abused too much. NJ is a fighter
who even said that they want to be abused
I don't see why leaving a company would ruin their bond
btw is it only this financial report from hybe today or is some repayment of debts also expected today or is that part of the report? (I'm totally clueless with this stuff)
Plenty of idols are in different companies but are stil very close
are we talking about BTS leaving as whole or splitting BTS?
Either
i'm not talking about it ruining their bond, it's just they've come so far together as a group, i don't see them splitting the group ever
it's either they all leave together or not at all if you understand their relationship
Why we talking about BTS member relationships 
I need some real shit to happen soon
because people are hoping they'd leave, which we shouldn't even count on in the first place
241105 pannatic Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannatic/status/1853627477895299238
Min Heejin calls out HYBE in a recent statement: 'Don't cover up your wicked acts with money and power.'
https://pannative.blogspot.com/2024/11/min-heejin-hybe-dont-cover-up-your.html
#MinHeejin #HYBE #민희진 #하이브
241105 pannkpop Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannkpop/status/1853625487484145930
HYBE's net profit in the third quarter dropped a whopping >>>>98.6%<<<< to 1.4 billion KRW, K-netizens are demanding that HYBE get a tax audit, Knetz react https://pannkpop.com/hybes-net-profit-in-the-third-quarter-dropped-a-whopping-98-6-to-1-4-billion-krw/
241105 minixzzz Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/minixzzz/status/1853632554022371522
Rephrasing it to,
"Despite us sabotaging NewJeans, they have further soared their brand value and popularity to which we have been unable to stop. This is because we're fucking unprofessional, stupid, corrupt imbeciles who know nothing about the music industry."
i think hybe have a thing for contradicting their past statements 
241105 kapsoo Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/kapsoo/status/1853636340132536448
트럼프, 해리스 걱정 하지마세요!
우리 앞에는 용산 뒷방 하이브 HYBE!
하이브 으뜸기업 선청 취소 촉구에 관한 국회 국민청원 5만명 부터 채우자!
이시각 현재 42,000여명!
민희진 #MinHeeJin 민희진의 모든 말이 옳았다. 민희진이 옳고 방시혁이 틀렸습니다. 뉴진스 엄마 민희진 화이팅!
241105 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1853612292786786586
just so y'all have a better picture of how bad it is for hybe right now...cube entertainment's Q3 net income for 2024 ranked higher than hybe.
Q3 2024 net income for:
SM - 84.2B won
YG - 13.2B won
JYP - 2.15B won
Cube - 2B won
Hybe - 1.4B won
241105 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1853651223200837929
"With So Much Controversy, How is This a 'Top Company'?": Over 40,000 Sign Petition to Revoke HYBE's 'Top Job-Creator' Designation
https://n.news.naver.com/article/031/0000882214?sid=102
Reporter Seol Rae-on
A public petition calling for the cancellation of HYBE's designation as a 'Top Job-Creator' by the
241105 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1853650181360955420
NewJeans comes in at #4 on Joy News 24's survey: "Entertainment Power People of 2024"
Even amidst the conflict between Min Hee-jin and HYBE, NewJeans' presence remained strong. Despite the internal strife, NewJeans successfully made a comeback, and "How Sweet" has continued its
https://theqoo.net/hot/3473148464
the audacity to use NJ's success 
[Official] Min Hee-jin Clarifies Rumors: "No Contract with Any Company… No Contact with Anyone"
Former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin has clarified rumors surrounding her recent activities.
On the 5th, Min Hee-jin released a statement addressing the circulating rumors. She said, "I have recently received questions and seen unfounded rumors regarding myself, so I am compelled to clarify my position. I have been informed, mainly from sources within the investment industry, of various rumors that claim, 'I have agreed to receive investments from someone' or 'I have decided to sign a contract with a specific party.'"
She continued, "I’ve also heard that specific company names are being mentioned, but I want to make it clear that none of this is true. Additionally, I can confirm that I have not been in contact with or discussed any matters with any company, including those mentioned." She added, "I am making this statement to completely dispel these groundless rumors to prevent any harm to innocent parties or possible misuse of this issue by HYBE. I hope there will be no misunderstandings."
Full Official Statement from Min Hee-jin
Hello, this is Min Hee-jin.
I have recently received questions and have seen unfounded rumors regarding myself, so I am compelled to clarify my position.
I have been informed, mainly from sources within the investment industry, of various rumors that claim, "I have agreed to receive investments from someone" or "I have decided to sign a contract with a specific party."
I’ve also heard that specific company names are being mentioned, but I want to make it clear that none of this is true.
Additionally, I can confirm that I have not been in contact with or discussed any matters with any company, including those mentioned.
I am making this statement to completely dispel these groundless rumors to prevent any harm to innocent parties or possible misuse of this issue by HYBE. I hope there will be no misunderstandings.
Thank you..
smart move
is it about the rumor she joined hand with LSM?
lol i just remembered jinjins post anyone that interacts with newjeans is a kakao spy 😂😂
241105 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1853612292786786586
just so y'all have a better picture of how bad it is for hybe right now...cube entertainment's Q3 net income for 2024 ranked higher than hybe.
Q3 2024 net income for:
SM - 84.2B won
YG - 13.2B won
JYP - 2.15B won
Cube - 2B won
Hybe - 1.4B won
241105 newjeans250 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeans250/status/1853698167025410353
방씨 재산이 추이브 시총의 절반 가까운 수준이다 어떤 코스피 대기업도 이런 경우는 거의 못 봤음 게다가 으뜸기업 선정이나 언론사들 기사 써주는거랑 문어발식 확장 회사들 등등 이상한게 한두가지가 아님 정작 투자자나 중동 부자 만난건 방씨였지 그나저나 샤카탁은 어디갔냐?
they only need 8k signature for the petition
i hope we will reach the goal by this weekend
when is the deadline?
hybe not even at sm's feet
end of november
this might not be accurate btw
i just read Minji’s phoning chat she said “people that our CEO knows” i just want to ask does MHJ still have a position in ador i know they call MHJ as CEO as a nickname but yall think she still has a say on their activities?
I don't think she has any influence on their activities, she's probably just giving recommendations on attending certain events. And all the members of NewJeans, I think, coordinate their schedules with her out of habit, simply because they want to
i'm curious what they call the new fraudor CEO?
Lee Juyoung 😂😂
11.9K likes, 171 comments. “#hanni #hannipham #newjeans #ador #kimjuyoung #minheejin #nationalassembly #korea #viral?fypシ #kpopfypシ #fyp ”
What is the Korean word for 'snake'?
There's your answer
Lmao. I think with illit forming, Hybe probably made a miscalculation that the demographics that listens to newjeans would then transfer to their other 2 gg (le ssera and Illit).
They didn't account for aespa to swoop right in and have a big year plus good music for them too. 
Also, bunnies fandom are loyal to the jeanies.
All the true ones at least especially after April. 
lol if they think NJs demographic is just measured by age and gender then i don’t think theyll ever be successful
True. They might've tried to copy the concept but the essence of the group is not there.
The music and art of each MV plus the girls' personalities.
That's where they actually failed.
they dont have the magic touch of 250
Imo if newjeans stays i still have no idea what would hybe do with them. they might do what they did/do to Gfriend or Fromis 9.
Make comebacks but not too much... reap in the profit and if group popularity dies then kick them out.
Nj's demographics is people who like music 
True. I mean look at newjeans reddit. I think the most people post on there is either their MVs or their music. Other than that it's just the cf ads and contents which not many people actually engage to lmao...
Also idk... most people who likes newjeans are either in arts or somewhat related to music. Lmao.
i agree
All my artist friends are bunnies 
We're getting off topic though. Like I get all the analysis for Hybe above but can someone explain it to me like I'm a dummy? Cause I have no idea.
From what I understand,
https://youtu.be/Vkz8BLBJ9_I
i cant handle twitter right now, this is too much
their usual insult never made me so much anger like now. I am livid to the point i feel like i want to kill someone just to keep this anger from boiling over
I haven't been seeing what you've been seeing. I don't know what you're talking about. But that's the usual response from being on Twitter for any amount of time. 
this time is different, and i hope you dont get to see it
i dont understand how people can be cruel to someone you dont even know personally?
I think ik what ur talking about its acc insane how ppl say this type of shit
I just opened twitter and saw it
can we just make a petition to phoning and ask the girls NOT to dive to internet anymore? This is too much, and i dont want them to see it
If i am this livid, imagine what they gonna feel if they saw it
i just saw it 😡 grrrr
those kind of people really don't have a life... their life must be so bad that they project it to someone else....
i usually dont think to much if they twisted the truth because i know someday the truth will come out and everyone will know. But this thing is different
I've DMed you vousmevoyes. Can you just send me what you're seeing, I'm too curious.
i hope they get sued so they won't feel the sun will shine on them again... they are talking nasty? i believe in bad karma...
oh please i need karma to strike them for this, this is inhuman
if u look in those peoples twts from years ago. u'll know that they are projecting hard.
i am this sad and so so sooooo so much in rage because i have a daughter of my own. So i know if someday their mother saw it, i already know how they would feel
i just saw that twt.
let me dm u something about those people, cuz i can't say it here
Now I am curious
it's incels racing through the line. it should be enough to sue them to hell.
241105 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1853753192393081294
Article
November 5 2024
“What Exactly Is ‘Brand Reputation’?” The Contrasting Situations of NewJeans and Daejeon City
“..Arbitrary Metrics: Add or Remove at Will
Fairness of Brand Reputation Under Scrutiny … Entertainment Industry on Edge”
Han Ji Hae reporter
Link to follow
I didn't need to ask for DM earlier. It's all over my Twitter now.
241105 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1853731410823258129
Mirae Asset IB Put to the Test
-Financial Supervisory Service (FSS) Investigation Initiated: “Strict Accountability If Problems Found”
-HYBE Convertible Bonds (CB) Investment Raises Profitability Concerns
The Mirae Asset Securities Investment Banking (IB) Division is facing
We shouldnt give engagement to these accounts cuz if newjeans r on twitter they prbly only have tokkis on their feed and if us tokkis r taking screenshots and posting then they will see it
I ignore them, the more you pay attention to them, the more they wrote. They feel happy by hurting others you know. Imagine when a dog barks and you ignore it
Opps wrong place, should NJ thread
241105 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1853761811243254181
Brand Reputation Institute admitting purposely excluding NewJeans from the rankings..
while
Ranking HYBE as #1 Entertainment agency that is going through a messy National Assembly Audit and nasty internal report controversy..
What a scam this ranking is.
Yeah sorry i just need to let this emotion out and i dont know where to do it. And because i dont want to interact with those accs i came here to rant
241105 whitexbaek2529 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/whitexbaek2529/status/1853774745558245681
어떠한 일이 벌어질지 모르지만 우리 열심히 달려봐요
너무 커서 부담스러우실까봐 눈에 좀 띄게 색상도 바꾸고 사이즈도 작게 만들었습니다.
https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/registered/24A986BA667116B0E064B49691C6967B
Here is fine but ppl on twitter shouldnt be reposting
I hope they get sued sooner rather than later.
1 account was removed yesterday. teamtokkies already sued few people. sniper not gonna last lonng.
defamation charges in korea is very serious
But i dont think suspended some account is the solution, they can easily create new and then everything will start over again. What team bunnies need is the person behind it
We know google or youtube does give info but will X ever do that we shall find out soon
Hopefully team bunnies lawsuit gets thru faster
yea defamation. it's not going to just end with account deletion. the youtuber who attacked wonyoung is jailed
if government ask for it, company has to. elon isn't above laws
Ah tru
241105 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1853757789614518545
Article
November 5 2024
NewJeans Excluded from Rankings by Brand Reputation Institute; HYBE, Despite 98.6% Drop in Net Profit, Ranked #1 [TOP Issue]
NewJeans was excluded from the top 100 rankings because “internally, they were viewed..
Seo Seung Ah reporter
Link to follow
stay off twitter matey
i only open that once in awhile, insta is better imo since less public opinions
241105 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1853782681747948030
HYBE IM abruptly revised the transaction amount received from ADOR, reducing it from 4 billion to 2.5 billion won.
it should be 0 won.
241105 luenacore Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/luenacore/status/1853701553070510081
This is the same HYBE employee who downplayed NewJeans' success in Japan a month ago, yet now he's highlighting all the achievements they made in Japan, in the latest HYBE reports.
is NewJeans just there for HYBE to flaunt their success and hide it whenever BSH feels petty?
241105 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1853786612569878883
changing the amount does not make this any more illegal than it should be. hybe should literally stop daydreaming about being a silicon valley brand while moonlighting as the top entertainment conglomerate. stop siphoning funds from subsidiaries. losers.
You're making me scared to open Twitter rn. Is it like back then in April or worse???
Cause if it is i might just avoid it
I saw it while opening some links. Its quite bad lols. But just ignore it, it will only look bad on themselves tbh
just outright horrible misogynistic or p3do comments
I wonder how their idols think of their fandom lols
I'm just glad tokkis are not that horrible. At least then newjeans and tokkis can be proud of the fandom
What armys are saying is just as bad as back then, if not worse. However many kpop stans used to join in the hate, that has stopped now. It's just those 3 fandoms
241105 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1853801544082411620
ADOR - HYBE IM Related Party Transaction Amendment Disclosure
This is a mix of comedy and disheartening realism for me. HYBE is doing this in broad daylight. The amount was originally 4 billion+ KRW but in this amendment, it decreased to 2.5 billion KRW? Is this magic? I mean,
R u guys seeing wat Im seeing
What is wrong with these people? Minors or not theyre literally still young girls
I hope none of the girls r seeing any of these
241105 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1853828507367035162
In HYBE’s semi-annual report, the average annual salary for men is 74 million KRW, while for women it is only 55 million KRW
This data shows the individual compensation details for the top 5 earners with annual compensation exceeding 500 million KRW. Since only 4 individuals are
I don't see anything, my timeline is so fresh after blocking
u block tokkis too? cause all i saw was tokkis screenshoting it constant
we should learn that not everything needs a response
Exactly the only rzn i saw it is cuz of tokkis which is annoying
I don't block tokkis, I ignored those screenshots, plus besides tokkis, I follow a lot of cats accounts so my lists are full of cats plus NJ
241105 pannkpop Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannkpop/status/1853807638947172742
K-netizens predict BTS will not renew their contracts and criticize HYBE for hoping to reduce their dependence on BTS, Knetz react https://pannkpop.com/k-netizens-predict-bts-will-not-renew-their-contracts-and-criticize-hybe-for-hoping-to-reduce-their-dependence-on-bts/
i blocked those. It's mostly tokkis I'm seeing post a screenshot. Like why??? 
241105 iseauseamee Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/iseauseamee/status/1853801890171195590
Most of the funds Hybe has been spending for:
- buying their stock to manipulate the stock market
- manipulate the media to attack NewJeans, MHJ and artists from others companies that the see at a threat
- Sagaeji for faking the success of their groups
try to follow other things like animals, funny stuffs, boost your happiness looking at cute animals, twitter is not all about toxic stuffs if you follow the right accounts, for me, i follow cats accounts so i am recharged to get back into tokki mode
I don't know maybe I'll log off x for a couple of days. I'll just use it now for dms for voting purposes. I honestly regret going to stan Twitter but it's one of the best platforms for seeing newjeans news. 
NJ girls have extreme mental strength, incel behaviour dont get to them
yup i never visit the "For You" section, and dont follow anything kpop related
Its just funny how most kpop content creators cover a post on twitter more than hybe getting expose on the NA
Hybe started media play again, prepare everyone
ngl i dont see anythiing so far
241105 pannchoa Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannchoa/status/1853939121904861334
HYBE highlights NewJeans' success in Japan in their quarterly business report
https://tinyurl.com/44y7ffmh
on the qoo there is one
that was yesterday tho
this one: https://theqoo.net/hot/3474395092
this gotta be the most dumbest article written
At 1 moment they say japan release was gr8, at another moment they say it fell short of expectations. Really stupid
241106 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1853989027210461273
[Comprehensive Report] HYBE’s Entertainment Expenses Soar from 200 Million to 1 Billion KRW in One Year, a 276% Increase → Calls for Revocation of ‘Top Company’ Status
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/468/0001106180
Sports Seoul Reporter Won Seong-yun
HYBE’s entertainment expenses have significantly
241106 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1853987679953711284
This is an excellent article.
HYBE doesn’t know because of their arrogance but they have likely lost already.
HYBE prestige is gone in Korea.
Industry will think twice about dealing with a company that unilaterally breaks contracts and treats artist like it has with NewJeans.
@snowtokki3 <t:1730787030:d>
241106 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1854004444129591794
Article
November 6 2024
The Bright and Dark Sides of HYBE’s Label System: Vague “Tuition” Standards
“..NewJeans’ rapid growth, even outpacing BTS’s early success. Nevertheless, ADOR paid a disproportionately high internal transaction fee..”
Kim HoYeon reporter
Link to follow
241106 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1854003967065567450
Read carefully! -> All domestic labels, except for Big Hit Music, pay Hybe for distribution costs, service fees, and other expenses as a kind of "tuition" to nurture artists. 🚨
Ador, which houses NewJeans (debuted in 2022), paid 15.7 billion KRW in tuition fees last
what even is that expense for???? they gotta audit hybe. so many suspicious transactions with its subsidiaries
They said tuition, maybe like vocal lessons? Language lesson? Etc
Vocal lessons at hybe? Are u joking?
Should add that ador received the worse in service from hybe despite paying so much, we know this from lv case n dc galary case)
how is the petition?
This is what they mean by "tuition".
All domestic labels, except for Big Hit Music, pay Hybe for distribution costs, service fees, and other expenses as a kind of "tuition" to nurture artists.
https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1854003967065567450
what happens after the petition?
It should allow a financial audit to the company.
do they need a wet signature? or is there a google form? i might convince my cousin's husband's relative to sign it
241106 pannkpop Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannkpop/status/1854030839782477922
[Knetizen] The reason NewJeans was abandoned, there are too many groups that can 'replace' them, Knetz react https://pannkpop.com/the-reason-newjeans-was-abandoned-there-are-too-many-groups-that-can-replace-them/
be careful, keep cool reading it
National Assembly will discuss it once it reaches 50k. Only Korean can sign it.
What are they going to discuss?
they are korean
Cool
https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/onGoingAll/24A986BA667116B0E064B49691C6967B
Here is the form
thanks
Removal of hybe top company status so they can finally tax audit hybe.
Previously they asked the labour organisation to investigate it but the organisation threw excuses. NA will directly intervene in investigation after it reaches 50k
But expect corruption. Bsh is from a political family.
Tbh, i don't think it will result in something. Not until we have a very serious leak of hybe. Something bigger than the document leak.
Kpop industry is showing a lack of integrity by still working with hybe groups...
did i happen to miss it or has nothing come up about the convertible bond payments that hybe was due to pay yet?
241106 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1854071522211860537
HYBE’s Top Company Status Withdrawal Nears… National Consent Petition Surpasses 40,000 Signatures in Less Than a Week [Top Issue]
https://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=15567793
Top Star News Reporter Oh Se-rin
The national consent petition calling for the withdrawal of HYBE’s “Top Company” status is
I come back and all I can see is HYBE disintegrating 
I don't see any news about that, Hybe must have suppressed the media again, I wan waiting for any news about it as well
241106 newjeansnews_ Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeansnews_/status/1854146160585584725
[theqoo - hot] HYBE's sales revealed for the first half of 2024 - netizens look at the comparison between the labels
https://shorturl.at/Qs9vL
241106 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1854155400733413455
K-tokkis have been giving the Weverse app 1 star on the app store.
Not sure if this is Apple or Google App store but this is part of the Boycott HYBE and Weverse movement.
241106 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1854173261359391080
Damn hybe playing dirty again, there are many malicious comments under this article attacking the girls, If you can register, please go and leave some positive comments/ click the unlike button when u see malicious ones https://n.news.naver.com/article/comment/052/0002109393
do u know. app store and playstore, any free review site are payola everywhere around the world.
need really huge crowd to affect reviews on these
also google corrects the rating in cases of mass 1 star rate flooding
saw this for another issue
people suggests giving 2 stars instead of 1 to not get flagged
How is the petition?
241107 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1854327152717766668
Deleting Weverse app and rate it 1 star in AppStore is still one of the best way to boycott hybe since this company don’t value their artists
241107 newbaram Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newbaram/status/1854349867201777784
점심 메뉴 고르면서 으뜸기업 취소 청원도 독려 부탁드려요
https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/onGoingAll/24A986BA667116B0E064B49691C6967B
241107 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1854353409044058200
10asia getting clocked by seoul city PR's planning team for trying to frame another narrative that would have placed newjeans in a negative light. catch that, 10asia.
im starting to wonder if we're gonna hear anything at all about it. im starting to lean towards probably not
What was the article about?
NewJeans alone, ADOR $61.5 million
ILLIT + Enhypen, BELIFT Lab $55 million
LeSserafim alone, Source Music $35.2 million
No wonder pd piggy is salty af, their other two ggs do not surpass NewJeans even with all the privileges available. Sad.
yeah, they buried it
I am not sure
and that's with their payola
you know what... they can't accept the truth that they need newjeans to survive... ego still eating their systems
I really wish NJ could have a comeback, I am evious of other fans having new songs from their fav but I will be patient
241106 goevan37 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/goevan37/status/1854036087557288233
요즘 위약금 싯가 사라진 건 지들도 이젠 받아먹을 구멍이 없고, 오히려 위약금을 줘야될 상황이란 판단 내린 것 같음. 증거가 많아서. 👀
they were getting too gutsy. NJ are ambassador for korean tourism. and those idiot decided to put article like that.
241107 pannatic Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannatic/status/1854475861187318065
HYBE caught lying about apologizing to the agencies mentioned in their leaked report, industry insiders take action to avoid involvement with HYBE
https://pannative.blogspot.com/2024/11/hybe-claimed-they-would-apologize-to.html
#HYBE #하이브
241107 soyamoyas Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/soyamoyas/status/1854418328510779450
sooo Seoul city really wanted newjeans and compensated them a lot for being Seoul ambassadors
A lot of that money went to hybe who transferred ador earnings to their failing game subsidiary
Only for hybe to do everything to tarnish newjeans brand? Can Seoul city sue
241107 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1854423752349732942
'Leave HYBE' and 'Boycott HYBE' Movements Rise as HYBE Remains Silent
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/119/0002890317
Reporter Park Jeong-seon
-Boycott Movement Spreads on Social Media
-"HYBE has issued no apology regarding the leaked document... It’s best to avoid any contact with them."
HYBE,
241107 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1854459722684047836
Bunnies/Tokkis, I hope by now we’ve learned our lesson. Let’s stop latching and clinging to other fandoms or communities that don’t align with who we are and what our girls stand for, and often bring more disorganization and toxicity than we already have here. We’ve seen it
241104 yuionyeon Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/yuionyeon/status/1853323388804382927
얘들아 이거만든 쿠팡에서 1년간 후송된 노동자가 사고로 137명, 심혈관계로 256명, 쿠팡에 드러나지 않은 죽음들이 얼마나 더 있는지 아직 알지 못한데 일하다 죽은 노동자들은 기록도 없고 아직도 유가족들이 싸우고 있음 제발 청문회 청원 좀 …좀 5일 남았는데 70%야🔥
📍https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/registered/235647AEBA2A371BE064B49691C6967B
Coupang is the snl company that spread hate for NJ
ooh this one reached 100% nice.
What is this referring to?
241107 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1854503407748526085
It’s no surprise at this point, but can we really expect HYBE to keep any of their promises? Kim Tae-ho’s apology and bowing felt more like a performance than a sincere gesture. They sidestepped the court’s ruling on the first injunction with a loophole and now, they’ve
Reminder to rely on ourselves and fandoms instead of getting help from outsiders
some stuff going on between jasons community and tokkis
Why are the girls fighting 😭😭
kcharts had no reason to post that haerin tweet I dont like the quotes
couldnt post anything about the hybe documents but now wants to post this 
you can check jasons commuty on twt if u want
Gaming community isn't simple. Looking for support from them is stupid. Especially competitive gaming community
I actually attended a svt concert in NYC ( I came to the event with my friend who's a karat) I regret buying the ticket though but I have to cause I'm also gonna drag her once NewJeans goes on tour (hopefully) but I was jealous... we could've had that NJ1 album and tour but effass hybe had to ruin it. 
this is more of the streamer community. kpop fans and streamer fans can both be parasocial but I feel streamer fans tend to be more parasocial. I think some tokkis just wanted both fans to stop associating nj with jason bc faze history is bad and theres also lot of shipping considering his old content
241107 newbaram Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newbaram/status/1854525831714131968
하이브의 으뜸기업 선정 취소 촉구에 관한 청원 8일차 집계 23시 현황입니다.
8일차 자정 무렵에 찬성 필요인원이 3천명 미만으로 떨어질 것이 예측됩니다. 다만, 일간 추이가 갈수록 하락세로 보여 내일 추세가 어찌될 지 우려되는 상황입니다.
https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/onGoingAll/24A986BA667116B0E064B49691C6967B
8일차 23시 현재 1,951명이
yeah, if there were new songs, we could see the girls achieve more, see people interact with them and their songs and see world tour, I am looking forward to NA. But I think what NJ and bunnies did was amazing. NJ did a good deed by revealing Hybe so no more victims can be harrassed by them. Their evil media and cheating work stole awards and turned many idols to suicide thoughts. This is not acceptable. I think they are far more evil than what is revealed right now but we should agree with what we have.
Wait there were convertible bonds due for payment right?? Anyone know what happened to that??
No info, no ariticle, Hybe is suppressing info
241107 newjeansmoment Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeansmoment/status/1854538042188427332
Petition at 94%
https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/registered/24A986BA667116B0E064B49691C6967B
They must have paid those convertible bonds already. They already busy mediaplay after huh
I want that tax audit cause we all know there's something fishy. How did Hybe pay for that convertible fund with that little amount of net income. 
Also, where was the other half of the ador fund that was transferred? I smell something fishy and it's in hybe sewers accounting department. 
Anyone know what this is too?? Cause I'm confused??
Thats a #1 newjeans hate account hes making stuff up
Yeah I know he's an in(famous) hate account. What I'm asking is the context?
no context just hate
https://x.com/Daepunimarchive/status/1854481285898699186
oof, Hybe were serious about punishing the leaker of the documents. even after apologizing in NA, they still did it 
they company behind the loan for the funds. according to what i read, they all are part of huge scam. there was news on them days be4 payment date
MHJ said she's selling her house to pay for lawsuit. he probably picked that up and made some bs aroudn that.
since NA told hybe not to go after leaker publically. hybe gonna be in big trouble for this. assuming there's no corruption. i hope koreans touch on this point very seriously.
Do you have link on this? I wanted to read up on how they could have possibly paid it 
it was on twitter days ago. maybe there's something if u scroll up here. but it was mostly about that murari whatever was name being part of scam. nothing about hybe paying.
gonna take forever to find it
Thanks. I'll scroll up. Maybe it's pinned?
241107 pannchoa Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannchoa/status/1854562407945043994
HYBE reported to be charging ADOR the highest "tuition fees" while paying them the least "internal revenue" compared to other sub-labels
https://tinyurl.com/46a485hz
AFAIK, mirae assets bough the CB but with a condition they become the managers for handling something2. I forgot what it was, but mirae assets saving hybe ass with that CB.
there are no other info about hybe CB
Mirae asset is a bank right??
@juantokki <t:1730798983:d>
Mirae Asset IB Put to the Test
-Financial Supervisory Service (FSS) Investigation Initiated: “Strict Accountability If Problems Found”
-HYBE Convertible Bonds (CB) Investment Raises Profitability Concerns
The Mirae Asset Securities Investment Banking (IB) Division is facing controversy due to its involvement in significant deals this year, notably those related to Korea Zinc and HYBE. Criticism has arisen that the company may have facilitated unfair practices by simultaneously handling both a tender offer and a rights issue for Korea Zinc. Additionally, questions have emerged about the profitability of HYBE’s large-scale convertible bond (CB) transaction, valued at 390 billion KRW. With the investment market in a slump, this has reportedly narrowed the IB Division’s position within Mirae Asset.
“Only HYBE Benefits” … Controversy Over 4th CB Deal
Controversy surrounds Mirae Asset Securities’ role in the recent issuance of HYBE’s convertible bonds (CB). Building on their experience managing HYBE’s third CB issuance, Mirae Asset Securities also won the lead role for the fourth issuance. During this process, Mirae Asset reportedly acquired the 390 billion KRW CB issuance entirely with its own capital, then offloaded it to other financial investors (FI), with some suggesting that the arrangement largely benefited HYBE.
The third HYBE CB deal also lacked profitability for Mirae Asset. At that time, the firm used 150 billion KRW of its own funds to secure the deal, effectively offering HYBE interest-free financing, as both the yield to maturity and coupon rate were 0%. As HYBE decided to repay the third CB early, they turned to issue a fourth CB of the same scale, but with HYBE’s performance and stock prices in decline due to issues such as the absence of BTS and a dispute with Min Hee-jin, former CEO of ADOR, additional returns seem unlikely.
A financial industry source commented, “The status of Mirae Ass
No, its a finance investment company
🙀🙀🙀
Translation of post below.
“Recently, HYBE was unable to repay the loan amount borrowed from Mirae Asset, leading them to pursue refinancing through convertible bonds worth 400 billion KRW.
In this situation, if CEO Min exercises the put option close to
1/
Wait so the loan was also from Mirae asset and it was refinanced through convertible bonds through the same company???
Yes
Ok. Thanks. So far I don't really have any idea what this means for the future though. Like what are we banking on after the petition is granted?? I know that Hybe could be applicable for a tax audit once that the top company is removed but realistically, what are the chances of that happening???
n this situation, if CEO Min exercises the put option close to
1/
y they cut their sentence bro left me at a cliff hanger
nvm i got it
twitter has a very low character limit
i just hope we can get the main court battle results quick cuz everything depends on that
Do you remember that HYBE have an affiliate company outside of Korea that they are not disclosed to public? The one that former CEO Park Jiwon create with no sales and no financial gain for 4 years? They will be able to investigate everything if the government decided to revoke HYBE top company award
take in as fandom we have done so much like i never imagined that we would see hanni speaking up at the national assembly and now trying to get hybe audited this is truly crazy
241107 hasi_ns2 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/hasi_ns2/status/1854523371637412069
???
사건번호가 언론에 나온 적도 없는데,
소송 당사자도 아닌데 사건번호를 어떻게 알고 있는지?
Surely by the end of this month... right?
(I feel like people wondering when the Switch 2 will get revealed, expecting literally every week that passes for something to happen.)
gta 6 gonna come before the results
unc is a man of his word 
"The situation escalated into a dispute over the facts. Director Shin accused ADOR of threatening him with a certificate of content demanding double the contract amount as payment, claiming ADOR engaged in misleading the public through the media. ADOR, in turn, accused Dolphiners Films and Shin of contract violations."
the new fraudor are so greedy
241107 p2tokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/p2tokki/status/1854592257548337662
Less than 3k signatures needed for this petition to remove Hybe's "top company" designation.
241108 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1854708194393964819
Well… well… with this kind of information out in the open, connecting the dots becomes all too easy. HYBE’s stinking fingerprints seem to be all over this.
Employee A conveniently resurfaces on Instagram just as Bang Si-hyuk made headlines when he was spotted fooling around in
241108 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1854709461698723872
Director Shin claimed that Ador was lying in the front while trying to manipulate them behind the scenes and using them as a tool to distort the situation. He stated, "I will submit or disclose recordings, emails, and documents sequentially as needed, and I will sue CEO Kim
241108 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1854714605383111066
The lawyer of female employee B, who was involved in a sexual harassment case, is close to ADOR’s outside director Kim hak hak and this Kim hak hak was even part of President Yoon’s campaign team
GOATED
241108 pannkpop Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannkpop/status/1854708945115660532
Netizens' reactions to 'NewJeans MV' director Shin Wooseok filing criminal complaint for defamation against ADOR executives, Knetz react https://pannkpop.com/netizens-reactions-to-newjeans-mv-director-shin-wooseok-filing-criminal-complaint-for-defamation-against-ador-executives/
Director Shin Woo-seok from Dolphiners Film has initiated legal action against ADOR.
According to SPOTV News’ investigation on the 8th, on November 4, Director Shin filed a complaint at the Yongsan Police Station in Seoul against ADOR’s CEO Kim Joo-young, who also serves as HYBE’s Chief Human Resources Officer (CHRO), and Deputy CEO Lee Do-kyung, on charges of defamation under the Information and Communications Network Act.
Shin Woo-seok, director at Dolphiners, created the hit music videos for NewJeans’ songs “Ditto,” “ETA,” and “OMG.” He also ran the YouTube channel “Ban Hee-soo,” which captured NewJeans’ moments as recorded by the character Ban Hee-soo, an anthropomorphized representation of the NewJeans fandom, Bunnies. The channel gained massive popularity among both domestic and international fans.
Amidst rising tensions between NewJeans and ADOR, which came under new management following the dismissal of former CEO Min Hee-jin, Shin revealed that ADOR demanded the removal of NewJeans-related video content he had produced. The Ban Hee-soo channel, in particular, resonated deeply with young fans in their teens and twenties as well as older fans who felt nostalgic for the NewJeans narrative and vibe, intensifying the fallout.
However, ADOR countered by stating that it only requested the takedown of the “ETA” music video director’s cut due to prior disagreements with advertisers and had not demanded the removal or halt of all NewJeans-related videos.
The conflict over the video deletions escalated further, with both sides accusing each other of falsehoods. Shin claimed that ADOR intimidated him by sending a certified document demanding double the service fees, then engaged in “media play” with untruths. In response, ADOR argued that it was Shin and Dolphiners who violated the contract.
Shin later accused ADOR of lying publicly while secretly attempting to manipulate him, using deception to twist the situation. He stated, “I will provide recordings, emails, and evidence sequentially as needed and will file defamation charges against CEO Kim Joo-young and Deputy CEO Lee Do-kyung,” indicating his intent to proceed with legal action.
The ongoing dispute between HYBE and former CEO Min Hee-jin, initially sparked by allegations of a takeover attempt, continues to intensify. NewJeans and their supporters demand Min’s reinstatement as ADOR’s CEO, claiming mistrust of the current leadership. Min also argues that under a shareholder agreement, she should be reappointed as ADOR’s CEO.
Although the court dismissed Min’s injunction against HYBE on the 29th of last month, her legal team clarified, “This does not mean the court accepted HYBE’s claims.” They added that Min will consider enforcing her rights if ADOR’s directors violate the shareholder agreement by refusing to reappoint her as CEO.
i really hope they will let the public see this evidence and recordings
Some explain pls.
South Korea president yoon is involved in scandal, they maybe want to connect something with kim hak hak person
since kim hak hak is a part of president yoon team
nah its not that deep
i think knetz just want to show that Employee B have a problematic friends
just like how HYBE wants to potray MHJ as a bad person because she has a shaman as a friend
Kim hak hak is working in fakador n for president wife?
any tldr on whats going on rn?
also is there any specific dates we should be waiting for?
nope
ADOR sued Shin Woo-seok 2 months ago https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/609/0000918517


NJ are fighting with all the big bosses 
But we need to do this so that no more idols or fans are hurt because of them, NJ are doing a big deed, saving Korean morality and values, punishing the devils and evils
not something i anticipated fr
so hybe paid mirae assests in more CBs rather than cash
is mirae assests tryna aquire hybe or smth?
No way, is this real?
i prayed for times like these
unfortunately it is a wrong id
i didnt even realise

less than 2k for the petitions, hopefully tomorrow will reach the goal so they can officialy start the investigation on monday
241108 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1854793213032513573
HYBE’s ‘Employee Overwork Death’ Cover-up Spirals into National Assembly Hearing
https://www.bizhankook.com/bk/article/28552
Reporter Jeon Dahyun, Biz Hankook
"I Wished I Had Caught COVID Instead"…HYBE Insists on Complying with Work-Hour Regulations Using All Institutional Measures
HYBE, which
i just read this one too, there are more and more employee speaking up against HYBE
or maybe ex staff idk
241108 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1854805998068023588
(241108)
Biz Hankook
HYBE's 'Employee Death from Overwork' Controversy Spreads to Parliamentary Audit, Truth Game Intensifies
Reporter Jeon Da-hyun
https://njb-jj.notion.site/241108-Biz-Hankook-A-HYBE-employee-s-confession-about-HYBE-s-poor-working-conditions-1381279fe54e80469691f2037ba305a5?pvs=74
Q. How are things now?
A. The system is somewhat different. I’m not sure if Chairman Bang was aware of the situation, but there’s a clear difference between the labels he directly oversees and those he doesn’t.
this part. so labels without bang control are better is what he said i assume ?
241108 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1854820466416078944
THE EMAIL
I know that much of what has happened since April 22 is still pretty unclear to the wider Tokki community. Some of you may be fully caught up on the details, while others might only have bits and pieces of information. There's very little coverage of this situation in
@stiff prairie or maybe labels with bang control get better benefits. 
nope. considering how bad it was in bighit days. bang control labels should be bad.
read: more human, the labels BSH oversee directly seems like inhuman
that's what i said
241108 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1854877971967852879
We have passed 49K.
986 more to go.🔥
https://petitions.assembly.go.kr/proceed/onGoingAll/24A986BA667116B0E064B49691C6967B
241108 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1854881698275541243
Big respect and thanks to K-tokkis and what they have been able to accomplish so far
I’ve noticed many of the K-tokkis who’ve been active and instrumental in fighting media play and misinformation became a Tokki due to MHJ’s first press conference in April.
It woke us all up
241108 Itzybitzymj Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Itzybitzymj/status/1854698903578296681
⚠️ ATTENTION TOKKIS (& K-pop fans): The account @/jjinjins may be linked to HYBE employees (thread below). Please RT for visibility!
If you’re looking for NewJeans or MHJ updates, keep in mind that this account could have a bias. Consider checking other sources! #NewJeans
This thread is such an eye opener, i’m shocked
I don't think Google Image search is a good enough to prove they're the original source. They don't crawl/index everything.
yeah it isnt, yandex is much better
each refresh of page, number goes up by 1. kinda fun to c xD
actually crazy u see comments asking for her address
is there consequences for doxxing address in korea?
yeah its not a good proof
but if the jjinjjins account cant explain where he got it from then its sus too
i think there are serious consequences lol
these toxic army accounts asking for addresss is threading a dangerous line here..
petition rounds up to 100% now lol
241108 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1854901152468332605
Translated qrt screen cap.
Seems to be a comment posted on a forum on October 16 per K-tokki.
This made my blood boil.
It recounts all that has happened to NewJeans/MHJ.
Some I even forgot like how they uploaded lower quality audio on Youtube, Age restrictions, and more 🤢

