#NJZ Updates and Discussion

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short laurel
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but honestly as long as hybe gets the heat i don't really care as much.

steep torrent
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looks like it was a reporter that said that in an article

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its a ss of the 6th quote from juans tweet

tardy smelt
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stomp it out HanniLul

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short laurel
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propaganda. that's what hybe's stans are doing right

sage pilot
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“Don’t read” 💀 This is insane

jolly junco
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so thats true, its a group outside of HYBE

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sadly i dont know much about other group than newjeans or aespa HanniLul

short laurel
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remember what bsh said abotu aespa to mhj.

jolly junco
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i dont think that story fit with aespa

short laurel
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yea it doesn't

jolly junco
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aespa was famous since their debut

short laurel
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i m just reminding you. bsh not like aespa. wouldn't be surprised if there are some comments about them too not yet leaked.

mild mist
short laurel
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i strongly believe that there's alot hybe has done that yet to be leaked

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and their behavior to all this is insane. BSH still in LA

jolly junco
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jolly junco
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nah lets stop at that

sage pilot
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Yeah

jolly junco
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i dont want to speculate, lets leave it to knetz to do that HanniLul

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i'm sure by the end of today knetz gonna find out who are they talking about

tardy smelt
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all guessing will do is hurt the artist if people end up running with one story, so yeah lol, consequences

sage pilot
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I mean, the audience of fmkorea, DC gallery and GP99 should know bc that’s how incels talk daily on there

wind monolith
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I dont think nmixx fits this we have seen them sing without backtrack

red thorn
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Looking at their internal weekly reports for trend review, it seems that their core strategy is just for mediaplay lol

jolly junco
tiny peak
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k-netz think that was referring to Aespa and their Coachella performance

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which is the ultimate irony

cosmic belfry
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It does mention "SM’s fandom" so that one paragraph has to be referring to a group under SM.

buoyant hamlet
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Unclear if it's SM entertainment or SourceMusic here

short laurel
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SM fandom always hates SM. they never defend company. so their point doesn't make sense.

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chances of somu. yea

sage pilot
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I’ve never seen SouMu being shortened to SM

short laurel
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it was internal discussion so we don't know what they call each other. danishh

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jolly junco
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well its confirmed to be SM Ent

short laurel
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aww

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The report also mentioned an SM Entertainment group, stating, "Most of the attacks on their tour can be defended with [this group]. If someone says a member is ugly, you can respond with old photos of [a specific member]. If someone says [another member] can’t dance, you can show them how [that member] still struggles." “
oh my god?? 💀

short laurel
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do we even know who sm new group trainees are ?

sage pilot
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There were also evaluations of HYBE's own idols. One comment stated, "It seems like [this member] thrives on hardship, constantly bringing up old stories, and it made me think they require a lot of attention in that regard."

💀💀💀💀

sage pilot
short laurel
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````A HYBE representative added, "The content disclosed during the National Assembly inspection was edited and includes not only disparaging comments but also various other industry-related information. This is not HYBE's official stance, but merely monitoring content."```
???????

tiny peak
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hahahahhahahhaahha

sage pilot
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SMNGG should’ve already debuted but seeing the mess in SM rn it seems like they’re pushed to debut in 2025

short laurel
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to call NA's report as edited

mild mist
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Hybe, of course, never release anything that has been edited

cerulean lake
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did the NA end yet?

cosmic belfry
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Edited as in it's snippets of probably the worse parts.

short laurel
cerulean lake
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bruh they always refute; don’t they know that sometimes you just have to accept and learn??

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holy crap it’s making ppl more mad the more they say this stuff

tiny peak
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yeah that's all that they know, best case they don't drag other groups into it further

cosmic belfry
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I don't think it's that strange to summaries of online sentiment but it is very unfiltered and obviously looks bad publicly.

steep torrent
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they're already finding out the groups they're talking about

short laurel
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we have seen from belift video their source for online sentiment is not proper public sites but haters account on X and dc gallary

tiny peak
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exactly, it reads like posts in an incel forum

jolly junco
cerulean lake
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they said it’s abt public opinion but i feel like most of their opinions are coming from those infamous sites if that’s what they’re claiming

jolly junco
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steel depot
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i wish those groups mentioned by hybe file a case against hybe

cerulean lake
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first we need bigger accs to post abt it so theres more recognition of their actions but knowing how they can be afraid to post idk abt that

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warm shard
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they're fast lol

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During the session, Democratic Party lawmaker Min Hyung-bae questioned Kim Tae-ho about a file titled "Weekly Music Industry Report," asking, "Is this an official document used by your company?" Kim Tae-ho responded, "As a company involved in the K-pop industry, we pay close attention to how fans and the industry view our artists and the public sentiment. This is part of that process."

so monitoring incel forums is their job, got it

cerulean lake
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we’ve been knew since their rebuttal vid 🤭

steep torrent
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x_ @NJBUBBLEGUM <t:1729763573:d>

(Translation)
Excerpts from industry trend report for HYBE executives

  • Written by Kang Myung-seok, Editor-in-Chief of Weverse Magazine
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wheat raft
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i have that acc blocked hahah i think too biased and strong opinions, and some fanwars stuff

i like njbubblegum so far seems quite his/her tweets seem pretty fact backed

short laurel
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nwjn1st have posted some wrong facts be4 iirc

wheat raft
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yeah and i hate bashing of other idols so whenever i see any accounts do that id just block even if tokki

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wheat raft
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1tokki is amazing too, fights for newjeans very hard. Though pretty emotional lately but understandable...

wheat raft
short laurel
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many tokkies are reacting hard on twt cuz nj was used by some hater for some drama and everyone blamed tokkies

wheat raft
short laurel
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it's such forced fanwar on that one.

wheat raft
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yeahh tbh irl theres alot of multistans and kpop fans live in harmony more than we think hahaha

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red thorn
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Apparently the author of the hybe weekly Industry Trends Reviews was well regarded columnist, not if he was corrupted by hybe focused on something like that or he's been always like that

copper current
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twitter 241024 myet_yyh Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/myet_yyh/status/1849386282583314671
Those fans saying mhj was attacking their idols when she is doing the exact opposite and stopping the negative information and comments on their fav idols. So question yourselves, who do u rlly stan, ur idols or the company

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twitter 241024 Phamkuromi Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Phamkuromi/status/1849389986896101737
More importantly, both HYBE CEO Park Ji Won & CHRO Kim Ju Young read, yet they did not address objections raised by Ador regarding its biased and slanderous contents. This is why HYBE is perceived as corrupt, they just let issues slide without resolving it.

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twitter 241024 nwjnsbts Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/nwjnsbts/status/1849411561137254618
that woman was accused of every minor negative occurrence which happened to several idol groups by the kpop stans, when in reality she's the only hybe executive who actually called out hybe to keep an unbiased stance towards ALL groups, including non-hybe groups.

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stiff prairie
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Since we've had so many slack messages revealed, we just need one singular text from hybe execs to ador bod that says vote out mhj as CEO and that will be everything really

hoary frost
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lol whoever is feeding them this expose i hope u live a long life

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hoary frost
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lol i wouldn’t be suprised if hybe is behind their own groups “hate train”

jolly junco
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now i'm dead curious as what are the things hybe did so severe that he cant make it public tokkiCANT

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HYBE are dead this time for sure HanniLul they can't deny the legality of NA sources

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"Chairman Jeon Jae-soo allowed all witnesses except COO Kim Tae-ho to return home, and the audit will resume from 22:00 KST. Exclusive detention for Tae-ho!"

@NJbubblegum

LMAO rip to HYBE COO HanniLul

astral dust
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So how are Reddit Armies doing?

astral dust
jolly junco
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QruY47-Fcco

LMAO its true

oh my god... hahahahha

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tardy smelt
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more nukes tonight 👀

tawdry vessel
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this late? nah bro gonna get cooked

jolly junco
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"MP Min Hyung-bae and Jeon Jae-soo, the chairman of the Culture, Sports and Tourism Committee, reprimanded HYBE's COO Kim Tae-ho, stating that HYBE's official statement denying the reports exposed in the parliamentary audit had undermined the authority of the National Assembly."

@NJbubblegum

HYBE is playing with fire, now they get burned

astral dust
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Can one brave soul check on Reddit?

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I want some good laughs while waiting to 22:00

valid sierra
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why did they even release a statement so early? Soooo dumb MinjiKek

tardy smelt
stiff prairie
astral dust
jolly junco
astral dust
hoary frost
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lol hybe so dumb they think they can get away with everything watch how the lapdogs will turn against each other

jolly junco
valid sierra
short laurel
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hybe dumb

astral dust
# jolly junco

Is this new? This’s not denying anything much, they’re just speaking in circle

jolly junco
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the underlined statement what makes chairman of korean culture sports and tourism angry HAHHAHA

jolly junco
short laurel
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what kind of source they have that talk shit about other idols but praise their own. that stupid dc gallary needs to be shut down

hoary frost
# jolly junco

lol releasing a statement to gain back some support from their cult members

tardy smelt
jolly junco
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i need this guy to spill everything at 22:00 KST 🤣

tardy smelt
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this is a good day

red thorn
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Whoa grill second round

hoary frost
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at 10pm? lol we might get another one for tomorrow

jolly junco
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🤣 🤣 oh gosh i'm smilling like an idiot

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astral dust
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I meant i feel like idk if you can run a company worse than Hybe Execs

jolly junco
astral dust
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I guess my standards are still to high

jolly junco
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HYBE be like everyone's sources are not true, except mine HanniLul

short laurel
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stream ended ?

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will they stream 10PM part. i hope they do

tardy smelt
short laurel
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ooh ty

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i was worried if they talk in private corruption might happen

hoary frost
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Hybe deluded themselves to think they above the law lol

jolly junco
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what a good day to be tokkis abinkybongIRL

short laurel
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wow hybe stans defending hybe by saying "it was public opinion not hybe's" totally missed the point

stiff prairie
jolly junco
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ok fine i will stay up late tonight just to see kim tae ho got grilled ahannithumbsup

ocean arch
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Best day of my life

astral dust
short laurel
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but i c no mention of other 2 stuff revealed today

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sajaegi and plagiarism

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even this those stans defending hybe and blaiming it on mhj

tardy smelt
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only introducing these "guidelines" because they got caught tokkiCANT

short laurel
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"We'll make sure it doesn't happen again"?! MF you understocked LAYOVER when it was on course to sell 3M 1ST DAY just so you cld get the highest 1st day sales record for another member by doing this buy-now-pay-later sajaegi fraud! Now you're acting like it didn't affect anyone??

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layover is mhj project in case anyone didn't know

tardy smelt
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great EP

ocean arch
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Every label under hybe except for ador did sajaegi ?

astral dust
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Most likely

short laurel
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ador, and maybe fromis too since they are pretty much ignored

astral dust
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GFriends too?

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I meant they disbanded that group so…

short laurel
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Gfriend are long gone from somu. no one consider them hybe group since it was only for few albums

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atleast V stans among the 7 not stan hybe

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short laurel
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it's mostly V stans

astral dust
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Im not sure if they did something to V and JK sales

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Aren’t they the step kids to BSH?

short laurel
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layover was with MHJ so hybe understock it despite the demand. streams media and actual sales didn't match. cuz of this. so V stans are against Hybe.
JK sales are same as usual probably sajaegi

astral dust
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I see

wheat raft
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mhj stuff does so well

wind monolith
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WAIT WHAT DID I JUST COME BACK TOO

jolly junco
tawdry vessel
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MP Min Hyung-bae and Jeon Jae-soo, the chairman of the Culture, Sports and Tourism Committee, reprimanded HYBE's COO Kim Tae-ho, stating that HYBE's official statement denying the reports exposed in the parliamentary audit had undermined the authority of the National Assembly.

astral dust
jolly junco
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The parliament work over time because of HYBE abinkybongIRL

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I think they are almost ready to continue grilling hybe coo

wind monolith
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Cant wait

hollow adder
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x_ @hantti0 <t:1729774013:d>

버니즈들 10시 단콘 준비

astral dust
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LMAO. Tokkies watch NA like a music show

marsh sorrel
wind monolith
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Here we go

tardy smelt
astral dust
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We’re desperate

hollow adder
# astral dust What do you mean?

In September 2022 Hybe allegedly covered up an employee that was overworked to d*#th . This was brought up during Hanni's attendance at the National assembly

astral dust
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Tomorrow will be a big day too since MHJ injunction will conclude

astral dust
wind monolith
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Is he apologizing too much yap

hollow adder
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the worker d1#d in September 2022

short laurel
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ooh

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and 2023 they got best workplace award?

tardy smelt
rain spade
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any ttranslationss

stiff prairie
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Well not really biting the crib but going back on their words at least

astral dust
hoary frost
tardy smelt
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bro is getting grilled

wind monolith
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Whos this i thought he was the only one to stay

astral dust
short laurel
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why chat insultign mhj and nj

astral dust
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Who?

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And where?

red thorn
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Live chat?

short laurel
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yea.

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there were few people but now they moved on from that part. idk did topic change ?

astral dust
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Call the mods

short laurel
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ooh they are being called hybe part timers.

astral dust
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Why aren’t mods policing people?

short laurel
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i think youtube hat is not moderated

astral dust
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We have multiple mods

tardy smelt
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he means the chat in the youtube livestream

stiff prairie
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I'm lost what live chat not this server right?

astral dust
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Regardless of channels with different topics, insulting NJs in this server is a no go

modern fog
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where did it occur

tardy smelt
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not in this server HanniLul

red thorn
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Lol

modern fog
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pfft

astral dust
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Ah. If it’s outside of NJs cord then we cant conctrol

short laurel
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i m talking about youtube live chat...

astral dust
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You confused us…

tawdry vessel
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he angry

marsh sorrel
stiff prairie
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Njcord mods to go yt chat and Perma ban them lessgoobinkybongcheer

short laurel
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what pther live chat is there here? no phoning call yet.

astral dust
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WhT?

short laurel
hoary frost
astral dust
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That live chat is open so anyone can go in there and make a mess anytime so…

short laurel
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wow shouldn't that chat be closed? it's usually closed so i didn't know

stiff prairie
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Links to the stream?

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Think I'm bouta go throw some hands now

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jolly junco
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🤣🤣🤣

tardy smelt
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💀

astral dust
tardy smelt
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dude is pissed

red thorn
astral dust
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Unpaid part timers

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Or maids?

red thorn
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That intel company stans

short laurel
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both.

wind monolith
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Y was he up for like 5 min only

stiff prairie
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Min Hee-jin, who only lives with her mouth and speaks the truth, always bothers me.
don't think google translator is doing me justice. i give up

short laurel
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where is that from ? xD

stiff prairie
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one of the chats

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can't figure out if it's pro mhj or anti lol

short laurel
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the chat lol

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this person spamming

jolly junco
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They gonna say congressman are MHJ paid worker by tomorrow

stiff prairie
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at lest this one's coherent. korean grammar like go to ready

jolly junco
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Seems like everything is paid by MHJ HanniLul

stiff prairie
short laurel
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sniper already made a post putting mhj as bad for todays leaks

jolly junco
short laurel
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7 actually believed sniper

jolly junco
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It just blow my mind, literally

stiff prairie
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okay seems like NA moved on to other agendas right?

short laurel
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to let him go with just an apology..

tardy smelt
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damn, they really made him stay after class to just apologise tokkiCANT

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astral dust
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Do yall think NJs are watching the NA too?

wind monolith
tardy smelt
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probably not

astral dust
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Why not?

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I think at least Hanni will.

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If us tokkies are interested in it, why not NJs?

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We’re in the same boat anyway

bronze jetty
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they’re already living through the situation, i’m sure the last thing they need to watch something adjacently related to it

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short laurel
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even if they don't. they'll c twt taking about it and on the news.

astral dust
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They’re free

short laurel
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they could have private schedule.

astral dust
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Currently in hybe semi dungeon, remember?

short laurel
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they still have their contracts on-going. so they are still busy.

astral dust
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Is it done?

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bronze jetty
# astral dust We’re in the same boat anyway

i would disagree in a way. as fans, we have the ‘luxury’ to turn this off and go about our day. we can definitely feel for them and what they’re going through but this isn’t directly affecting us

short laurel
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yea. that's why they are still busy. they could still have some private schedule today.

astral dust
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It’s not. That’s why i say maybe only Hanni is watching as she’s that type of person that wanted to know everything. Knowing your enemies is important too

modern fog
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type shit

astral dust
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Anyways, this’s beside the point

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How’s the audit going?

tardy smelt
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probably nothing else will come out

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they got an apology and hybe took down their statement

short laurel
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hybe deleted it ?

astral dust
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They took it down but saw tokkies said the link is still there

short laurel
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i opened the link but it's gone

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orchid field
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praying hybe runs out of budget to pay for bribes to delete articles

astral dust
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It’s late. When will they end it?

astral dust
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Ador probably will be the next collateral

orchid field
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covering debt with more debt

astral dust
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That’s how it works with business usually

short laurel
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no one going to give them loans if their value keep tanking. and hybe is hell bent on tanking their stocks

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:warning: Tweet with id 1849447888805331170 does not contain any media!

short laurel
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kchartmaster reported about 2 issues but didn't post anything about planning document issue

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twitter 241024 yuijeans Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/yuijeans/status/1849464868270989403
I still recall that analyst who once pointed out that HYBE was using a game company’s ruthless tactic, a public witch hunt, to pressure MHJ into resigning. It was a strategy that had worked time and time again, forcing their targets to collapse under the weight of public scorn.

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twitter 241024 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1849449329452368368
Sh*t.

Based upon these documents revealed at the audit, all HYBE artist album sales numbers are all overinflated except NewJeans it seems.

As far as we know, MHJ is the only one who said no when they were asked to “push” albums. And look at what MHJ is going through?

copper current
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NJ proves with their real capabilities

fluid edge
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they live again for part 3 ?

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acoustic valve
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Hybe's internal document talking about how they can efficiently weaponize crazy incels to attack idols. I know these people existed, it's just horrific to see they actually have a job and it's literally in positions of power at Hybe

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stone grotto
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We are witnessing the first stages of HYBE’s downfall.

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twitter 241024 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1849441259448127661
He immediately tucked his tail between his legs huh? 🙈😂

Kim Tae-ho (HYBE COO/BELIFT LAB CEO): The statement posted at the HYBE website during the parliament audit was inappropriate, and I apologize for this. We will fix the problems with the industrial trend report too.

ripe mango
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the audit still ongoing?

copper current
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twitter 241024 soyamoyas Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/soyamoyas/status/1849455402641182756
dear Hybe fans

To explain to you…

Belift cannot do anything to newjeans or tokkis. Because the Korean National Assembly is the one charging them with evidence

You think the Korea legal court… do any legal court want to argue against the National Assembly?

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twitter 241024 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1849463712249172091
Assemblyman even said that thick stacks of documents is only a portion of what he has.

And the fact that the contents are even worse (not fit for the public?) is sick.

I hope they release more because public needs to know how nasty these people are.

cerulean lake
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is he being questioned rn or later on

copper current
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twitter 241024 soyamoyas Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/soyamoyas/status/1849450264337732038
All I know is that newjeans actualy had the guts to speak up for what’s right and make change in the industry

They risked their careers to speak on what’s true

Your idols who stayed silent yet knew everything are not friends, nor brave nor great. Sorry!

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twitter 241024 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1849453959297048842
MP Shin Dong-wook (PPP): (To Minister Yoo In-chon of the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism) Although we received an apology from HYBE, even if it was an internal report, please continue to monitor derogatory expressions targeting minors in the K-pop industry.

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twitter 241024 Phamkuromi Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Phamkuromi/status/1849355476586086767
National Assembly Culture, Sports, and Tourism Committee Audit showed a HYBE internal report and it filled with offensive words about appearance and sexualize female idols under HYBE and other companies like SM

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arctic sky
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LMAO

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arctic sky
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we believe in payola indeed

copper current
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cerulean lake
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no but seriously bang pd is lucky he was born into a wealthy family with government connections already

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imagine how much they’re hiding and getting away w stuff

leaden igloo
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im seeing a wild tweet from kboo on twitter and have no idea if it's true or not

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has anyone else seen it

arctic sky
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What tweet

leaden igloo
short laurel
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alot of wild take. hybe stans are going to be alot busy.

leaden igloo
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I already checked r/kpop, they're in denial and say this is no big deal and that everyone does this

short laurel
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seunghan from riize was somu trainee ?

leaden igloo
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yes. that's why a lot of 7s say mhj was the one who sabatoged him and the member who left illit

short laurel
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today actually proved that everything mhj said about hybe are true

lethal terrace
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Today was crazy. Hopefully things actually get addressed though because the industry is…yikes

gleaming scarab
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frozen granite
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When do we hear if MHJ gets reappointed?

stone grotto
leaden igloo
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I heard we would hear on the 26th

orchid field
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A win is a win

hoary frost
orchid field
hoary frost
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What minjifacepalm ??

heady gate
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Hybe stock was up 0.05%.

short laurel
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Hybe posted rebuttal post about national assembly report during the national assembly.
Assembly got mad, they made him stay there late n only let him leave after he apologized on behalf of hybe.

heady gate
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This is more entertaining than watching Netflix

short laurel
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Hybe rebuttal post threaded the whistleblower. Assembly ordered to not do anything to whistleblower

short laurel
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I not like that no one addressed the plastic waste thing. Like hybe report so much less number like three 0 less

hoary frost
short laurel
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Nope. That's why they were angry at hybe

heady gate
leaden igloo
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can someone update the pins

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Today (25/10) in newsjeans

  1. Internal hybe document released. Many competitor idol groups are disparaged, called ugly, talentless, etc. THey also included specific strategies to further bully other idols on line. Hybe put out a statement then quickly deleted it. Source: https://view.asiae.co.kr/article/2024102502584421800
  2. Emails leaked where hybe convinced retailers to buy more preorders than they originally wanted and return the unsold at no charge to inflate PO numbers. belift ceo says he wont do it again. belift put out a statement during the assembly and belift ceo got scolded/bowed in apology for it.
    Source: https://ilyo.co.kr/?ac=article_view&entry_id=480975 Source 2: https://www.newsen.com/news_view.php?uid=202410242221420410
  3. Government agency(not NA) accuses hybe of under-reporting sales by 1000x in order to save about 90k usd in waste removal fees. Source: https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003389687
  4. Definitive proof of Belift using newjeans planning information to launch their girl groups (no source from official news agency yet on what was exactly discussed but belift denied all plagarism allegations)
아시아경제

국내 최대 가요기획사 하이브(HYBE)가 국회 문화체육관광위원회 국정감사에서 미성년자 대상 외모 품평이 포함된 업계 동향 자료를 작성했다는 지적을 받아 논란...

일요신문

[일요신문] 2024년 국정감사에서 국내외 K팝 팬덤의 이목을 또 한 번 집중시킨 질의응답이 나왔다. 앞서 그룹 뉴진스(NewJeans)의 멤버 하니가 소속사인 ...

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correct me if I'm wrong

upbeat stream
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I knew knetz will figure it out HaerinCaughtIn4k

hoary frost
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Damn this is not a good year for HYBE lol

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  1. There was even more to it. The HYBE rep tried to say it was just a collection of community feedback, but the leaked docs showed they had actual response strategies, like 'if someone says XXX is ugly, respond with old photos of XXX.' When a politician called them out on it, they kept trying to deny it but got totally shut down.
mild mist
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I'm sure that the knetz are loving this

leaden igloo
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this is insane...is there an article or translated video you can link? or is it all too soon?

short laurel
vague shore
# leaden igloo NO WAY

You can watch it on YouTube at NATV_korea, though it's all in Korean. But you probably don’t even need to—this will be all over the news tomorrow anyway, unless HYBE somehow manages to control the media.

leaden igloo
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I'll wait for the tikkitokki team to translate then!

heady gate
leaden igloo
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yall gotta pin this pippin hot tea

steep torrent
short laurel
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Wait what's this about.

vague shore
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The funny thing is, that's just one page. Other news sites have even more info up, like this: https://www.newsen.com/news_view.php?uid=202410241952180410&code=10010 (in Korean) It includes stuff like that 'respond with old photos' tactic I mentioned. A politician even said the content directed at minors was so extreme that they couldn’t say it but reporters have probably seen more pages already, and I bet more will keep coming out.

vapid turret
vague shore
vapid turret
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And with the case of their salary being stolen actually being confirmed they deserve some respect and compensation and msot of all a comeback album and world tour.

steep torrent
vapid turret
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Along with collabs with whoever they want to.

short laurel
vapid turret
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And if they take the route of 50/50 and redebut under a new name in the future I'll be all for it.

vapid turret
short laurel
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Seunghan was hybe trainee

vapid turret
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But the principal is the same it's time to stop blaming idols for these so called scandals centered around their mistreatments. And instead blame the much older adults and companies around them who benefit from their pain.

vapid turret
# short laurel Seunghan was hybe trainee

Regardless, SM tolerated the bullying and death threats and caved in. The same way HYBE is trying to sabotage the girls. It's all about companies harming idols for profit.

heady gate
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short laurel
vapid turret
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hey even if it's a PR disaster for HYBE it should be enough to change a few minds and that K-pop will maybe change for the better in the future.

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As I have said many times before 2024 is one of the worst years for K-pop so far.

short laurel
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It's in national assembly n Part of ongoing contract workers right. Month be4 hanni 3 ex idols came to NA.
Once the new law is implemented things will change.
Think of it like 13 year contract to 7 year contract thing from years ago. But better n bigger

vapid turret
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We've had scandal after "scandal" the industry faltering financially for many of their idols. And then we have one of the biggest icons of K-pop lose her career by marrying mr burning sun. And now fanbases are divided because Newjeans spoke out for wanting some respect.

vague shore
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Who knows? The leaked document the politician was waving around was almost as thick as a book. I guess now people can blame anything on HYBE, whether it's right or wrong, since more info could still come out.

short laurel
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It'll effect every contract workers n idols are small part of it. Assuming they implement it right

heady gate
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True, I remembered about the 13 years of slavery contract.

vapid turret
vapid turret
heady gate
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It was 13 years, but it changed to 7.

short laurel
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N remember today happened cuz hanni showed up last time. Nj helping changing industry for real not just in kpop but all of korea for contract workers!

vapid turret
short laurel
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Gen 2 or 3 era i think. Tvxq era

leaden igloo
vapid turret
wind monolith
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To put the cherry on top we need injunction result

short laurel
heady gate
vapid turret
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Oh yeah and 4 minutes debuted after the case one year later.

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That makes sense.

short laurel
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So gen 2 era got it

vapid turret
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I personally believe the 7 year contracts are fine and all but updates should include just some more protections for idols from now on. And maybe one key factor should be NO MORE DEBUTS UNDER 16.

short laurel
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Yea this is what ongoing discussions in na is about the one hanni attended for

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Fakeador ceo was grilled on it that day

vapid turret
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IMHO idols who are still minors should even be given some time to complete schoolwork and get their high school diploma.

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Or GED equivalent.

short laurel
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U seen new upcoming survival show? It's sad

copper jetty
vapid turret
short laurel
vapid turret
short laurel
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Against them no.

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Idk about schooling situation with nj. Only know hanni did online school

vapid turret
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Still, there will need to be more protections for idols in almost every aspect of the industry going forward hopefully. Such as protections from crazy fans, proper compensation, etc.

short laurel
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So they are aware of it.

vapid turret
short laurel
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Nothing. That's just offtopic.

short laurel
vapid turret
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But regardless if they worked with HYBE or not it's still important evidence for Hanni's testimony.

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Because if it's happening at other companies it's happening at HYBE too.

short laurel
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Bighit 1st gg. The girl did the blackmail cuz of trainee debt under bighit so yea it has happened.

vapid turret
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Well maybe it would be more of an advantage if they did work for HYBE but still, it just exposes idol mistreatment as a whole.

short laurel
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I just mentioned that case.

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Glam was there name

vapid turret
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Like I said regardless that evidence can be used against HYBE. Evidence is evidence.

waxen musk
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I missed everything from today. There's so much to feast on. (Anything worth pinning?_

leaden igloo
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I tried to summarize everything that I learned today in these 4 points but more will probably reveal soon

waxen musk
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Just went through this whole thread. Yeah things are crazy. Thanks for the summary too. Things need to change quickly I can't believe Hybe are still doing their dirty tricks to this day while being audited by the government looool. All this stuff can clearly help in NJ's favour in the future.

twin cypress
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I know people are hyping this up but are there any consequences for these hearings or is it just a stern talking to?

twin cypress
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Like why are we hyped?

upbeat stream
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Merely because hybe got cooked. Don't expect much to come out from this

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Injunction is what matters

west osprey
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And it's good slop

heady gate
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Injunction result will affect NJ. The convertible bond payment will affect Hybe Corp.

marble cape
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any new update?

copper current
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steep torrent
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hybe was probably behind minjis kalguksu stuff too angry_joe

waxen musk
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That's one of the few times the girls felt the need to apologise too. That really broke my brain trying to understand Minji needing to apologise.

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I hope for some big news today, but I'm a bit unsure if we should expect anything or not.

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I hope they at least let us know when to expect news if any result doesn't end up happening today or tomorrow but a few days from now.

astral dust
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Did they move MHJ’s result date again?

jolly junco
waxen musk
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Today is the earliest a result can happen, but no guarantee.

steep torrent
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praying for results later today but we probably wont get it until tomorrow tokkipray

waxen musk
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I wouldn't expect anything until we're told what to expect. HanniDevious

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ko->en

Regarding the injunction to exercise voting rights of Mr. Daepyu
Today (10/23), the creditor's representative (Sejong Law Firm)
I submitted an application for change of purpose of application,
The application and supporting documents were sent to the debtor's attorney.
If this happens, by 10/25
It seems like the injunction will not result in a result
Will another interrogation date be set???
I'm also very curious about the changed application purpose

upbeat stream
tawdry vessel
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the fact that she had to change the purpose of the injuction is not looking good or maybe idk

leaden igloo
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We can only wait and see!
TOKKIUM

upbeat stream
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Ah, thought I had missed something new

steel depot
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why are they amending TT

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is it a good or a bad move for mhj?

opaque torrent
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neutral

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they were asked by the judge to make the terms to reinstate her as CEO enforceable

copper current
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the judge can rule in her favor and rule that the unilateral termination of the shareholder contract is unlawful and honor her put option and fine HYBE.

however, that's separate from forcing the ador board to vote her in as CEO so sejong has to build an argument to convinece the judge it's lawful and valid to force the board to reinstate her

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because hybe is unhinged and its actions are unprecedented. most ppl would be happy to just get the money but mhj feels she needs to be CEO to fulfill her obligation to newjeans

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twitter 241025 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1849642962415751177
Literally the first paragraph of this May 2024 article mentioning how MHJ was “encouraged” to push out 100,000 of NewJeans album by HYBE but she refused.

And HYBE saying they don’t engage in album dumping (pushing).

And evidence pointing to HYBE pushing albums in the audit

copper current
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twitter 241025 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1849640688826318932
Translating this excellent article from May 2024 due to it being even more relevant now due to audit of Belift CEO

Article

May 23 2024

[JoyNOW] HYBE Controversy Brings ‘Album Dumping’ to Light… The Real Issue is ‘Music Viral Marketing’

Jung Ji Won reporter

Link to follow

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twitter 241025 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1849650858134524198
no cause if hybe didn't do all this, remember, several financial experts predicted Ador to contribute 14% towards Hybe's operating profit this year. but clearly, hybe disregarded that potential revenue and just went on sabotaging newjeans plans -- NJ1 included.

hoary frost
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so did the results came in?

stone grotto
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It’s a little past noon in Korea. Maybe more news later in the afternoon

ocean arch
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What's the best thing and worst thing that can happen from today's result?

ornate vine
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best thing is mhj is reinstated as CEO of ADOR with protections from HYBE removing her again

worst thing well idk 🤷‍♂️

copper current
eager hamlet
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is there a summary

rain spade
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I was just thinking if hybe keep removing her as ceo, they will just keep filing for a injunction and it will go in circles

cosmic belfry
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Keep increasing the fines money

copper current
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jolly junco
red thorn
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Worst come to worst probably trial

sage pilot
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ocean arch
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So in 2 hours

half knot
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I don't want to bet, but it's more likely the results will come out next week

frozen granite
half knot
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I don't think I explicitly remember them saying that, it was more along the lines of the next hearing or deadline for evidence or something was today and the decision would come out by the end of October.

rain spade
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twitter 241025 madjeans0911 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/madjeans0911/status/1849674728623202397
Tokkies, I want you to know that this injunction ruling is much tougher. If they rule in her favor, it will be an unprecedented decision in legal history. That said, if they don’t, we need to understand why, given the challenging nature of this case. We shouldn’t be discouraged—I

copper current
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praying everyone, let's pray 🙏

sage pilot
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It seems like the results will come out today

half knot
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I don't think the decision will go her way, but it might at least be a partial injunction of some kind. There's still the other legal case where HYBE asked the courts to confirm their unilateral termination of the shareholders contract.

steel depot
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sending all the luck i got for mhj and newjeans ✨

half knot
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and we're all waiting on the various police reports decisions as well, it's taken way too long.

tawdry vessel
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it's mhjover

wind monolith
warm hedge
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if decision was to come out today when would be the latest it comes out ?

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5pm Korea time?

opaque torrent
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hybe filed a police report against her back in april as part of their performance/media play

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they've been investigating. if they find she committed 'breach of trust', they will recommend the prosecution to sue her

astral dust
astral dust
cerulean lake
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man idk anymore

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the first injunction win was such a surprised but this one is kinda iffy ngl as it’s much harder to prove

opaque torrent
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The legal system is all about precedence. I don’t think it’s difficult to prove the merits of MHJ’s argument, but the court overriding the board is unprecedented, even if it’s clear HYBE set up the board to reflect its intentions

jolly junco
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-prayjeans

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warm hedge
cosmic belfry
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Well they were trying to claim things like embezzlement but those claims were baseless.

short laurel
opaque torrent
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a police investigation just takes 6+ months because... bureaucracy

half knot
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and a lot of golf for the chiefs

tiny peak
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I wonder what's the consequence if they are called back for audit, and they haven't fixed anything at all

opaque torrent
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a significant part of hybe's strategy is to torture mhj and make her resign on her own

opaque torrent
tiny peak
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ah okay, I hope there is some way to reprimand them in the future, when they will inevitably be called back for some more wrongdoings

short laurel
hoary frost
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tbh next thing i want to see is the evidence nwjnstrm said they have agaisnt their head of PR that journalist statements seems like juicy

unborn jewel
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only problem is they cant leak it themselves

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oh wait im thinking of something else 😭

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nvm nvm nvm nvm

opaque torrent
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not today, a lot of documents were submitted today lol

steel depot
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fighting everyone!

sage pilot
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Why are they submitting docs so late.. free us already tokkisob

hoary frost
hoary frost
cosmic belfry
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wrap it up. everyone go home.

jolly junco
opaque torrent
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are we placing bets? im going to say "before november" 🤞🏻

mild mist
opaque torrent
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i can't believe miss top-of-her-class lee sookmi is a crammer like this

short laurel
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Hybe wants records of everything. Right now they are going after worse company ever record

jolly junco
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i think he said he was accepting more evidence/documents until the 25th and will make a decision on the 26th. he underestimated these yappers

jolly junco
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he said they will accept more evidence until 25th, and will make a decision at the end of the month. So i never thought it would be 26 at all, i always assumed it would be on 31

fluid edge
mild mist
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I really don't know where people started getting the 26th from

opaque torrent
short laurel
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26 was written in an article, it was later edited to 25

tawdry vessel
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today 5pm kst

fluid edge
tawdry vessel
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trust HanniDevious

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sage pilot
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So we’re waiting until tomorrow and if the result does not come out, then until the start of november

fluid edge
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what hanniHUH

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i though it was tdy

short laurel
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Do courts work on saturdays?

sage pilot
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How likely is it that we will get anything tomorrow at all, if it’s saturday? Do courts work on weekends?

sage pilot
jolly junco
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jolly junco
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they have a shell company for 4 years and no one noticed until now???

short laurel
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Doubt it. Their fandom is known to cover up anything that harms their reputation. I m certain that their followers were aware of this

hoary frost
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fraudor ceo & vp submitted their opinions

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another one is outside director of ador

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that woman they brought in recently. former prosecutor

opaque torrent
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can i submit my opinion?

mild mist
astral dust
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I think it’s safe to assume nothing will come out today right?

astral dust
tardy smelt
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look forward to the stage today instead of court stuff danikek

orchid field
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are injunction results not today?

tardy smelt
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very unlikely

cerulean lake
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ik reddit is cooked but i didnt realized how cooked people there are omg

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i just saw a comment saying team bunnies doxed and embarrassed the ador ceo 🫠

short laurel
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Yesterday's stuff is picked by other fandom from sm n jyp. More pressure on hybe stans 😄

stiff prairie
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so hybe put in additional documents after mhj team put out theirs? and nothing else came out yet?

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guess we aren't getting any results today then

astral dust
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No, the court told them to submit new materials as they only said the same old thing in the 1st hearing

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So both sides are just doing what they’re asked by the judge

jolly junco
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twitter 241024 j3anies Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/j3anies/status/1849463516941479993
HYBE’s editor in chief (hand selected by bang pd) on 16 year old krystal jung’s body:

“krystal’s frame is still thin like a child who hasn’t fully grown yet…. the maturity and perfection of her body is better than krystal’s senior groups”

jolly junco
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what a fcking sh1t of company

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why dont they discuss things about music instead of this

hoary frost
stiff prairie
jolly junco
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oh my lord i hope they all got jail time for defaming other people

stiff prairie
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why's there so many doom posting about mhj might not winning then

astral dust
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Idk

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Because legally, the court can’t really involve in company politics

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Choosing people to sit on what seat is company politics

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I think the court can only work with what’s in the contract

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If no where in the contract said MHJ must be CEO then….

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Shareholders and CEOs are different

short laurel
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I just realised. Remember illit account following nj hater account. N hybe coo is belift ceo. So they have staff that do hate nj.

jolly junco
astral dust
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Well then that’s good

jolly junco
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thats why HYBE terminated that one sided before they dismissed her

astral dust
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The court can have a leg to stand on

short laurel
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N ignoring hanni too. How much Of belift shown that they hate nj openly at this point.

jolly junco
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they just need to make sure the shareholder agreement is not legally terminated

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but HYBE insist on terminating the agreement, so its up to the court how they see this

astral dust
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Yeah, it’s kinda a grey area so it’s up to the judge to decide

warm hedge
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hard to see how judge would find the termination valid, given they already dismissed Hybes allegations at the last hearing

astral dust
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You dont know how other side build their case

stiff prairie
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i get the thing about being prepared for the worst or whatever

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but doesn't mean ppl need to doom post lol trusting the process is all we can do now

astral dust
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Yeah

mild mist
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You also need to remember that the shareholders' agreement is written in Korean legalese, and it's 1) not public, 2) difficult to get an accurate translation and 3) difficult to understand even the translated text

mild mist
jolly junco
short laurel
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She's the one who made that slogan after all

steel depot
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MHJ made that slogan and the only one who put it into practice/life

vague shore
hoary frost
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lol if hybe wins its rigged they don’t have a valid reason to terminate the contract in the first place the only reason they did is bcuz they think “the trust is broken” the same thing they said the last time

leaden igloo
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Trust is broken but they still trust her enough to appoint her as internal director??? HanniLul HanniLul

lucid yarrow
hoary frost
stoic heron
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there's something new?

tawdry vessel
waxen musk
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Hopefully not much longer to wait for result.

jolly junco
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😭 😭 😭 fck MHJ need to win this fight, i cant see hyein cry like that again

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that was so heartbreaking

wind monolith
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Prbly not tdy since alot of stuff were submitted by both parties tdy

hushed whale
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maybe next week

vapid turret
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Well no news is good news so far

vapid turret
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So nothing today?

copper current
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copper current
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😂 Don't underestimate NewJeans

short laurel
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they got not just tokkie and my but multiple big kpop fandoms against them. 😂

vapid turret
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It looks like K-pop fans are now turning against companies as a whole at this point. After what happened with Rizze a couple of weeks ago and this people are starting to blame the higher ups around these idols.

short laurel
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which is what was needed to be done since forever. it's finally happening.

red thorn
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post this on reddit and see their meltdown

heady gate
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it is 8am kst

waxen musk
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it is 9am kst

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I don't think we should expect anything for any specific day but just waking up every day for the next week not knowing if this incredibly important result has been announced or not is torture. tokkisob

jolly junco
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oh life as a tokkis nowdays....

tardy smelt
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take a page out of ditto and live without worrying about this for a bit

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when the news drops, it drops

grizzled trellis
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Anyone know if these are new documents compared to yesterday? I'm seeing ktokkis getting mad with screenshots but theres no official translation yet

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heady gate
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Here is part of the English translation

copper current
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twitter 241026 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1850015340073246801
WTF is this part about NewJeans in the HYBE’s nasty internal report?

“The term “NewAhLe” has been making the rounds for days, but maybe it’s time to scrap “New”(from NewAhLe) and start fresh.”

Their desire to be rid of NewJeans is said loud and clear here. F*ck these people.

copper current
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twitter 241026 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1850013457313300990
"throw away the new to start anew" - this being part of hybe's internal report shared to mid to top level management. and yet ppl believe that hybe should be spared from all the scrutiny? i'll say it again, garbage leadership, garbage company.

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They are bullies. They can take anything and blame everything else to other.

copper current
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twitter 241026 NewJeansMuseum Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NewJeansMuseum/status/1850025026457678038
HYBE literally started all this drama before NewJeans’ comeback to deter their momentum knowing they had a full album, a world tour and 2 large scale fan meetings in Tokyo dome & a stadium planned all so they could steal their concept and promote their other girl groups while

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Hybe is dominating Pann right now tokkilove 😂

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guess thats part of the stuff they didn't know wanna reveal in the na

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pannchoas new posts 💀

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they are so dead this time tokkiCANT RIP HYBE

copper current
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😂 😂 binkybongcheer Dance

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they just got a whole lot of fandoms mad

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i need jhin to manifes alot of things from now on

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bruh i never knew HYBE exec are so deep into the fanfic 🤣 🤣

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I am glad someone released the weekly reports to the NA. Otherwise, we would never know their true objective.

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"The physical difference is quite painful to see. When I think of SK' CB, who was almost the same height during the NM challenge, it makes me even sadder. It's especially hard because CB is friends with NM, and seeing them together in the camera makes my heart ache even more.

Of course, performing on stage and hosting well is important, but YJ just standing there holds significance. It just so happened that the interview team included NCT DREAM and SK, and both groups were physically overshadowed by YJ to the point that it felt almost uncomfortable to watch. SB is already recognized for his height, and his character image has a gentle and clumsy vibe, so it didn’t feel too out of place, but when YJ stands next to CB, the difference is quite noticeable."

who are they talking about?

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HA HA HA HA

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LMAO who are leaking all these documents to public? please give him a bonus

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WikiLeak

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oh praise the shaman 🙏

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I am wondering how are the other Big 3 companies are going to response

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jolly junco
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some sacrifice need to happens here in order to take down HYBE

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Great, Season 4 is coming

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is it 2000 pages or 500 pages?

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Ooof today’s nuke is doing so much numbers 💀 every post is gaining like 100k views in 5 min on kr side. It’s insane

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jolly junco
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LMAO hybe are so obsessed with aespa and IVE, i just saw an articles about HYBE tried to make illit members like the 2nd jang wonyoung

like wth

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can they just focused on their artist? why the need to copy others all the time?

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twitter 241026 vminnsm Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/vminnsm/status/1850026907493868019
since 2023!!!! they been plotting to push them down and yall are blaming and bashing the girls for choosing to protect themselves first and go with someone they can trust😭 they know damn well if they’re left alone they’d be the only one with no protection from the higher ups

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what is wrong with hybe

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HYBE was trying so hard to push the narative of Wonhee as the 2nd jang wonyoung

LMAO

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will hybe finally be over? tokkipray

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Remember when HYBE media played that MHJ is badmouthing every kpop group under the sun and HYBE stans run with it for months… VINDICATION! binkybongcheer

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I guess tokkis are laughing so much that their stomachs burst 😂 all of the hate that we endure, all of the downvotes, worth it tokkisob

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ts is so crazy man

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what's insane is that all of this could have been hidden from the public, everybody could have gone on with their lives if only HYBE had answered the internal complaint from Ador directly.

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Instead they decided to preemptively go on a mediaplay and character assassination attack against MHJ and by extension NJ girls and the group.

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a tactic they had learned from their gaming industry days. Against the worst possible candidate for such an attack, a demon in the shape of MHJ, and now they're in for payback.

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should their decision not be obvious now? I hope it comes out tomorrow instead of monday

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2000 pages is crazy

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They are the cause of their own demise for opening this can of worms.

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and they dare to look down on National Audit congressmen

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twitter 241026 newbunnies_401 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newbunnies_401/status/1850044657629340104
@talytokki To add context, it appears this was written before the release of the Get Up album, which constitutes a breach of the shareholder agreement between Min Hee-jin and HYBE. Legally, it seems likely that Min Hee-jin will emerge victorious.

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💀

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them tracking ships is indeed something else

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x_ @minixzzz <t:1729909445:d>

Need to zoom👇
This includes those groups mentioned the other day.

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wheres njbubblegum

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"There was an issue surrounding Seunghan, who was revealed as a member of ROOKIES then later transferred to RIIZE, after photos of him kissing his girlfriend were exposed by an attacker account on Twitter. According to the original poster, the girlfriend was a minor at the time, and the photos contained evidence to suggest that they were taken at a hotel. What is frightening about these communities and their tendencies is that they do not wish to linger on this issue too long at all. Rather, on communities like Instiz, some are arguing that Seunghan himself is a victim since his private photos were publicly exposed without consent, and later on, others shut down the issue from being mentioned completely with comments like 'he is good at his job'. The issue itself failed to go viral on Theqoo. Considering their reactions, it is unacceptable that when TXT's Taehyun was filmed without permission at a club, they caused such an uproar."

so what?? They do a PR Stunt to blow up the scandal out of proportion????

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Was HYBE the one behind all of these scandal?? i mean some scandal are blow up out of proportion i mean

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its someone future at stake and they are playing with it???

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yk what’s crazy.. HYBE was saying MHJ tried to take away NJ from them but in 2023, they were planning to “threw away NJ”.. I have no words 💀

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ugh my brain's hurt from reading all the leaked document

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HYBE are literally the cancer to kpop

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and have been for some time.

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This might be during time when hybe cooking for illit concept, could've been story-based concept but instead they stole from mhj's homework

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can somekne explain what is happening?

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why am i hearing about hybe plans to "throw newjeans out"

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and can someone give me a rundown on the hearing from yesterday

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nothing happened yesterday except for a ton of documents being submitted

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what is hybe doing "throwing newjeans out"

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twitter 241026 Phamkuromi Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Phamkuromi/status/1850049785509859411
In summary, as the report was submitted in mid-2023, they planned to throw NewJeans before that. They sent NewJeans plan to Belift Lab and created 1LLIT to replace NJ. MHJ discovered this and reported it internally, but they ignored and proceeded sabotaging campaign on NJ & MHJ

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twitter 241026 newjeanified Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeanified/status/1850046125320860140
2023 May-July: Plans to abandon NewJeans to make a new version was made

2023 July-August: the NewJeans plan was delivered to other labels.

April 2024: MHJ protested about this copy, & was told that it was a breach of trust.

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why does hybe hate newjeans so much i dont understand 😭

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Hybe is envious of MHJ and her talent. Bang pd wants credit for everything

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Because Bang Si-hyuk wasn't getting any credit

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can i make a petition for HYBE to change their name to SOJANG Entertainment?

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If all hell breaks loose newjeans have a strong case to terminate their contract

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https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1850052216037703981
Industry Trend Review Material for HYBE Executives
(English Translation)

-It was meaningful that RM comforted fans by sharing his perspective on the performance. This was also an opportunity to directly report the recovery of ___. However, ___ seems to have a bit of a

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lol these is what i said abt hybe they care so much abt other groups they forgot how to make their own group standout except newjeans ofc like their strategy is always based on noise marketing instead of making actual good music

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Jinjin and sniper struggling to put up a twisted story

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Don’t forget. The stuff that’s come out so far is the 'mild version.' The really sickening details haven’t been released out of concern for the people mentioned.

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Ain’t no way get up is about that holy fuck

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Oh so it's the extension of trend review report, why they included throw nj plan in that tho, mhj can read it

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Newjeans is truly changing the industry

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It is going to be a fun weekend

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guys there’s not 500 pages.. not 2000 pages.. THERE IS 18K PAGES

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That is a lot of trees

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if they manage to golf themselves out of this i might become a hybe stan

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HYBE biggest nightmare

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N all this released today is just mild part according to assembly man. So how much worse it is.

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I hope some of these were given mhj be4 yesterday cuz she need them in injunction

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The photo shows he is holding around 500 pages. I am sure he wouldn't carry 18k pages to the National Assembly.

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Not without a wheelbarrow, no

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Just how long it took for them to get 18k pages of info.

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ah there will be content from this leak for a decade

short laurel
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There groups will always be looked down on from now on. All their achievement become nothing in just few hours

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If the NA wants to take down Hybe, this is the best opportunity.

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is this a weekly thing that they distributed in the company? assuming it was happening from the beginning of HYBE in 2021... then that's like 100 pages of this a week

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x_ @kangsterrin <t:1729922436:d>

English Translation of Industry Trend Review Material for HYBE Executives

Cred: @NJBUBBLEGUM

1/3

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I m not reading all this. Someone make short summary later pls

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I think she's somewhat demoralized that she can't win the injunction as it was, but also going to milk the heck out of this NA backlash

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all fandoms uniting against hybe

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x_ @shiecollects <t:1729925160:d>

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lol wonder who leaked that?

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other companys foaming at the mouth

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Can someone ping me when Hybe sinks?

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Their connection might be too strong for this to take them down. I meant YG was involved with literally criminals, BS scandal, people died, and they’re still standing

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What Hybe has been showing so far is just immaturity, stupidness, and white collar thugs.

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Many of executives will be let go. But bang will remain unfortunately

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1900 pages 💀

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1st 13k then 18k now 1.9k how much is it?

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not sure what the real amount is but its definitely over 1k, some of them are private too thats why the numbers are different

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its 18k but they only brought a portion if that to the na

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hybe stans deleting any posts talking about this on reddit HanniLul

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I m wondering for how long they've been investigating hybe to get 18k pages of report n didn't take any action on it during all that time. They could've moved a bit earlier.

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what a good day today, watching hybe downfall in realtime

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they still defending hybe in reddit. bro they really are company stans

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not a law expert but i think the proof of actually restricting growth has to be there. conversations itself is not really sue worthy i think

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things like dispatch leak, leaving them out of charts on purpose, funneling money from ador to gaming corps etc might be better reason to sue i think

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x_ @juantokki <t:1729930500:d>

241026 Shin Dongle instagram story

축하해요

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"congratulations" HanniLul

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yea

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is that the ex yg dir?

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or shin wooseok

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director of supernatural mv, and others

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how did the national assembly get hold of the 18k pages worth of material? whistleblowers?

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hybe being dragged by multiple fandoms while hanni is playing her nintendo switch haerinkek

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min heejin, newjeans, newjeans’ parents and us bunnies

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I don't understand why some Hybe stans are still defending this company on social media, even though it's been caught lying.

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the answer was obviously already in your question.

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their fav have been shown being used by hybe in that leak and they still refuse. they are just hybe bots. just be glad that V's stans are mad at hybe for layover. even that is not easy to get in lil 7's

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did the injunction results come out?

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the company owns the IP, if they leave, even if mhj leaves, they will lose everything they already worked with on ador

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HYBE owns all of it. MHJ only owns an 18% stake in Ador; the rest is HYBE. For NJ to take their full trademark rights, they have several options. 1st is to leave Hybe and change their name, like Highlight/Beast and Gfriend/Viviz. I assume they would also need to re-record their music, but I don’t know if it’s possible. 2nd, HYBE can give away the trademark to NJ themselves willingly, like Woollim did to Infinite. But we know this will never happen. And third, they can go to court and fight for their trademark rights like Ikon
Hybe can also sell Ador but this also will not happen

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re-record their song like taylor swifts

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# short laurel re-record their song like taylor swifts

Edited: Taylor was able to re-record her catalogue only because she owns her copyrights. I don’t know who owns NJ’s copyrights on music. I wonder if MHJ and NJ has participated in writing and composing, they own the copyright then, like Taylor? Idk

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hoenstly that's the most likely route. girls have credits to the songs. since MHJ made the mparticipate

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I think it’s possible for them to go Taylor route tho. But this is my speculation

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i would assume og ador has rights to alot of NJ stuff. people who hybe kicked out.

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THE BACKREAD GOES CRAZY TODAY OMG!???

The fanfic section I’m dying

Anyone who still stans hybe after this…they’re as smart as trump supporters rocks in my eyes omgggg

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"it's public opinion not hybe exec's opinion"
"other kpop companies have these too"

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among other things i forgot

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The problem is most discussions about this topic keeps getting deleted

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I wonder how they're going to try and spin their belief that somehow the entire parliament has been paid off by min heejin

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twitter 230915 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1702498210466734379
the eternal karma newjeans and tokkis have is pretty impressive. like no stone is left unturned and every single hate tweet we received comes back to those people ten fold. (and this is us not doing anything drastic) gotta love karma. so always do good folks!

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hybe made fun of an idol's height meanwhile y'all been making fun of hanni's height tokkisob

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i dont stan boy groups but will say skz are so talented in terms of composing and dancing, its hard to find any meaningful criticism

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in an interview, I think Lily of nmixx said that "attitude" is valued as importantly as dance, singing, and rap so that's another thing hybe can't use against jyp groups...

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maybe out of love was too deep lol

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yeah i get the difference for sure but she seemed annoyed by it everytime it's brought up in phoning live

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yeah some

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annoyed annoyed is like when minji told us to not call her oppa

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and it's corny

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hanni saying "guys don't even joke w me i can reach the top" and minji saying "i already mentioned don't call me oppa" has two very different tones and implications

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Bruhh

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i actually saw a person from the other side on reddit show maturity, reflect, and apologise for bashing newjeans, it's good to see at least one person on that platform isn't hopeless HanniLul

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twitter 241026 newjiram Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjiram/status/1850168283313345022
THIS! If it happened to any other group, I fear HYBE would have been successful with their plan but this is NewJeans… their grasp on the entire country in many different industries is what sets them apart from from every other celebrity.

They’re beyond just being K-pop idols…

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So when does Hybe actually get in trouble for all the shit they've been doing?

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I start to get emotional thinking about the journey that got us here. MHJ defending the girls and Ador, the girls speaking for themselves, Hanni attending the National Assembly. Bunnies sending reports and taking legal action. tokkisob

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sadly result will be just some hybe executives will be let go and nothing will happen to BSH. and everyone will pretend everything good.

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and possibly some fines

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honestly reading the reddit post….this is the first time seeing an anti hybe post garnering so much traction and not get taken down yet lol

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people kept bringing up how MHJ namedropping ILLIT caused hate to ILLIT

but thats like saying “plsss dont namedrop the bully it will harm his family and friends”

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alot of people in that post pointed out that mhj called illit inncoent and blamed the adults. which is nice to c. people keep ignoring this part over there.

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by bully im referring to hybe and belift

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It's interesting that throughout this whole process, MHJ has surely been aware of everything that is getting exposed about Hybe recently and yet she still has expressed the best option is to stay at Hybe but be left alone. Has she ever mentioned wanting to leave Hybe? I wonder what the breaking point is.

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I do worry about international Hybe stans not ever changing their mind. I mean we've got this far and nothing has changed. It's crazy that things need to be taken even further to even entertain the possibility of these people's opinions changing.