NJZ Updates and Discussion

[short laurel]

Nope, internal director position, they've been giving to mhj ever since they kicked her out. They just repeating same shit with increased term.

[jolly junco]

but isnt it weird they are in a hurry to offer her this exec directors new term? before the result of the injuction?

are they afraid they gonna lose? 🤣

[short laurel]

"we are giving her power to produce nj, it's her who keep declining it" is what they've been going for ever since they kicked mhj. It's the same now too.

[silk skiff]

holy the audacity from hybe to go for this angle when they've literally forced her out of her position

[tardy smelt]

*x -c https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1846806563732025769

[harsh dove]

@NJBUBBLEGUM <t:1729147971:d>

Explanation of Min Hee-jin's reappointment as internal director:

[silk skiff]

was this general meeting reported by the media or?

[cosmic belfry]

It was scheduled and known for a while.

[tardy smelt]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1846804077151506863

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1729147378:d>

ADOR Holds Special Shareholders' Meeting to Reappoint Min Hee-jin as Internal Director
https://n.news.naver.com/article/001/0014989934
Reporter Lee Tae-soo

'Maintaining Internal Director Role, but Not as CEO'

(Seoul, Yonhap News) — Min Hee-jin, the former CEO of ADOR, whose term as an internal director was set to expire next month, has been reappointed as an internal director for another three-year term.

According to the music industry on the 17th, ADOR held a special shareholders' meeting on the same day and passed the agenda to reappoint Min as an internal director. It was reported that no other agenda items were discussed during the meeting.

Min’s new term as an internal director will begin on the 2nd of next month and last for three years.

Last month, on the 25th, ADOR's board of directors proposed a compromise to extend Min’s term as an internal director but did not allow her to return as CEO. However, Min has opposed this decision, insisting that her return as CEO is necessary.

In a recent interview with a Japanese TV station, Min explained, "There is a process and a plan to realize NewJeans' vision," and added, "To proceed according to the plan, production, pre-investment, and management need to work together," highlighting the importance of her CEO position.

In the interview, she also said, "Contractually, I am neither a producer nor a CEO at the moment. The situation is ambiguous with just the authority of an internal director," adding, "The projects I've been working on are still underway. I can't abandon them. I'm still working, but the next steps are unclear, and I want to resolve this situation quickly."

Min has also filed an injunction with the court, demanding that HYBE reinstate her as CEO.

[heady gate]

I know Hybe management don't like MHJ, why they reappoint her as an internal director for 3 years. What is the purpose?

[jolly junco]

if that new offer for MHJ included that she still need to answer or need approval from KJY or Lee do kyong then i'm pretty sure she will reject it

[jolly junco]

to make money with newjeans FOR hybe

[red thorn]

Damage control news, to give reassurance to investors, started with the "1.2 trillion cash" statement
The momentum now because J-Hope discharged

[heady gate]

true

[short laurel]

It's pretty much the same one as from be4. Nothing changes i m saying it.

[tawdry vessel]

to make hybe less evil, we aint falling for that shit

[jolly junco]

HYBE just want to drain her ideas and using newjeans to cash in more money for the parents company

evil move

whenever MHJ presents a new concept for NJ future comeback the fraudor CEO and VP can decline her ideas

[red thorn]

Their stock went up

[cosmic belfry]

Probably due to the news of Mirae Assety Securities set to underwrite HYBE's fourth round CBs

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1846659522909090199

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

Article

October 16 2024

HYBE’s Dilemma: Issuing 400 Billion Won in Convertible Bonds Amid Uncertainty

Kim Gun Woo Reporter

Link to follow

Twitter · Oct 16, 2024, 9:08 PM

[mild mist]

I'm interested to see min heejin's press release later

[tardy smelt]

Digested everything. The situation seems pretty clear cut now from those last two paragraphs: We need that injunction win.

MHJ's entire motivation is to realise her 7 year vision - I'm betting there's some risky ass shit (financially) in that plan that she knows would be set back by having to answer to a board. We need her as CEO, and people on the board that also share her vision.

As for BSH, I think it's all about generating as much money as possible from each subsidiary with no shits given about originality or art, just money, all to realise his vision for HYBE 2.0, the all-in-one entertainment company.

[short laurel]

they are solely relying on BTS for the fourth round of CB.

[tardy smelt]

lowkey betting that if the situation drags until their main money makers all come back, they'll stop giving a shit about MHJ

[short laurel]

but it's bad that evil keep getting away.

[tardy smelt]

anyway, my takeaway from today's news is, as long as MHJ is not completely out and can still do work behind the scenes, which she has been doing, there's still hope for us to get back on track

[valid sierra]

anyone knows how the whole process now in ADOR?

iirc, she was under someone named Lee Dokyung, so every move she makes, she have to report it to her, and ofcourse CEO Lee jooyoung

[hoary frost]

MHJ does not want to be internal director. She is not business graduate to solely sit in director chair and do paper work and nod on meetings. She needs to be executive producer with full authority and thats only possible when she is CEO

the most important is whether she can freely produce for NewJeans, and she can't.

also gotta love how HYBE is contradicting themselves by appointing "traitor" who wanted to usurp mangement by selling ADOR to Saudi Arabia 😂

[red thorn]

The speculations that this feud going on because he is just petty person isn't zero too

[tardy smelt]

yeah, for sure

[red thorn]

Meaning his goal just harassing

[valid sierra]

oh wait, did MHJ already accepted the position or not yet?

[warm hedge]

I don’t see how BSH actions are generating as much money as possible, seems to be doing the opposite tbh

[hoary frost]

she def attended the meeting

[tardy smelt]

we'll probably need to wait for a response from her side for confirmation, can't trust the first article that comes out

[cosmic belfry]

She has stated intent on being inside director and that's what the injunction was for. Not sure if this impacts the result of the injunction.

[stiff prairie]

injunction was for ceo position not director

[cosmic belfry]

It was for inside director with the intent of getting CEO. I don't know if she has basis for CEO in that injunction but they were trying to argue it.

[stiff prairie]

i don't see how being exec director will get her ceo position since no way the other bod members are voting her as ceo

[copper jetty]

As far as I know the injuction was for the CEO position. Didn't she reject the previous offer of being an exec director??

[cosmic belfry]

She rejected the producer position. This is a board seat which is a step to CEO if she can confirm the shareholder contract is valid.

[stiff prairie]

and afiak legally she doesn't have that basis to get ceo position since ador bod was who fired her and hybe as major shareholder has the right to appoint bod

now maybe if we look into it deeper since hybe's shareholder agreement says mhj remains ceo and they are the ones who pushed bod members who will vote her out as a loophole ig there's a slight chance of mhj getting her position back but it's very slim imo

[valid sierra]

the current injunction is for the CEO position. She has a legal basis since she won the court case back in May where the court states that it was a wrongful termination

[shy schooner]

She is not going to accept the position

[cosmic belfry]

Inside director was one of the points the injunction was about. It's why HYBE's legal team brought it up saying they would give it to her.

[arctic sky]

I mean did she already rejected that offer awhile ago

[steel depot]

Didn't she say she wouldn't accept any position beside CEO?

[steel depot]

ikr

[cosmic belfry]

Older Article

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2024/09/min-hee-jin-files-for-a-provisional-injunction-seeking-reappointment-as-an-internal-director-of-ador

[shy schooner]

Her ideas would be banned regardless if she takes the role

[steel depot]

yup and she knows that... did mhj even confirm this or hybe is just playing us again...

[cosmic belfry]

Just to clarify, Internal/Inside Director isn't a producer role. It's just a board seat.

[tardy smelt]

not yet

[steel depot]

I'll wait for what she has to say

[stiff prairie]

i think she'll just wait till court results come out

[tardy smelt]

yeah, wait for what she has to say about it this time

[cosmic belfry]

That was as a producer not an internal director. Internal director is a different role.

[hoary frost]

lol for all we know mhj is still in japan she might not know yet that shes a internal director again

[tardy smelt]

prolly meeting up with the members, passing on the nj1 secret sauce

[stiff prairie]

nah internal director was also proposed

Last month, on the 25th, ADOR's board of directors proposed a compromise to extend Min’s term as an internal director but did not allow her to return as CEO. However, Min has opposed this decision, insisting that her return as CEO is necessary.
this is from the naver article

[cosmic belfry]

She said she would accept that. She is an internal director right now even before this with her term expiring early November.

[stiff prairie]

i'm confused where did she say that

[hoary frost]

but its funny how they giving her a position after they stole all that money from ador just to give it to their gaming sector

[stiff prairie]

ahh nvm she is internal director as of now

[stiff prairie]

they need her out of ceo position to keep it that way

[fluid edge]

She’ll be the director for now, right, since we still have to wait for the injunction result?

Or no more ?

[warm hedge]

We’ll have to wait for MHJs response to find out

[fluid edge]

Ahh okay

[waxen musk]

I still don't know what current Ador plans to do with NewJeans. If they bring MHJ back on to the team but don't let her do anything, then how do they explain that?

[waxen musk]

I'm a bit unsure about what they're offering her now compared to the contracts she refused a couple of times before (because of unfair terms).

I know CEO is the goal but I want to know if this contract is comparatively fair if it's a worthy compromise. I guess we'll have to wait and see MHJ's response.

[stone grotto]

They’re are just trying to save face after Hanni cooked them at the National Assembly

[valid sierra]

the extension is for internal director, which means that MHJ will be a part of board of directors for another 3 yrs. Board of Directors decide everything on a large scale basis and they are above of a CEO

[short laurel]

all i know is. as logn as betheif memebrs are in ador. mhj n nj work is not safe.

and the current ceo who failed her duty to protect NJ. got away free. why BOD didn't discuss about this incident that their idols, the core product of the company complaining about.

[valid sierra]

shes an HR and Chief level. yet acts and speak like an intern

[jolly junco]

no use, it will be 3 against 1

HYBE control the 3 members of the BOD

[hoary frost]

i think they didn’t offer it to her but they needed to comply to the shareholders agreement since it is covered by sk law

[arctic swan]

Pretend to hate the concept then decline but keep it for the other GG😏🍀

[shy schooner]

Prob put the girls on haitus

[flint stone]

Wrong chat

[valid sierra]

oh mb

[leaden igloo]

The twitter user liabizz must be stopped. Even if they’re a Tokki, they’re blatantly spreading misinformation and making us all look bad

[hoary frost]

I just woke up - I heard she won the injection?

[short laurel]

No. Nothing changed. Just hybe mediaplay to look nice

[hoary frost]

She didn’t win? Oh

So what happened?

[short laurel]

Twitter haters twisting words of previous injunction. Court said that mhj didn't breach trust, haters sharing sketchy screenshot without link saying "it's proved that mhj breach trust"

[short laurel]

Fraudor appointed mhj as executive director for 3 years, that's same as she had be4, position that requires her to get permission from hybe's puppet to do anything.

[hoary frost]

Oh I see

Getting appointed as CEO is becoming harder now 🤔

[hoary frost]

Does newjeans have a producer at the moment?

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/kumachan982/status/1846874712619864291?s=46

[narrow seal]

241017 kumachan982 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/kumachan982/status/1846874712619864291
HYBE aim to undermine the legal support for her application. By extending her position as an internal director, HYBE try to weaken her core argument regarding the illegal termination of the stockholder contract. (1)

[sage pilot]

A very good thread. This user also said that Hybe is doing the same things they did before the first injunction

~t https://x.com/kumachan982/status/1846861918205890989?s=46

[narrow seal]

241017 kumachan982 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/kumachan982/status/1846861918205890989
@minixzzz HYBE had declared that they would appoint Lee Jae-Sang as the new CEO of ADOR before 5.30. They are just doing the same thing: to show everything is under their control and to weaken the legal necessity and urgency of her injunction.

[copper current]

Yes

[hoary frost]

This one is for reappointment of CEO right?

[copper current]

Right, cross finger

[stoic heron]

did mhj accepted the internal director thing?

[hoary frost]

yes

[stoic heron]

thats good or not?

[flint stone]

Wait, she didn't

[leaden igloo]

Did mhj release a statement in response yet

[mild mist]

Haven't seen one

[leaden igloo]

Because I don’t trust a single thing from fraudor/hybe these days

[stoic heron]

fr

[hoary frost]

It seems she did

[leaden igloo]

I’m on tokkium bc I need to convince myself that this means she will win this injunction

[hoary frost]

What’s going to happen if the judge doesn’t grant the injunction?

[heady gate]

I don't want to predict the outcome. We will find out the real answer on Oct 26 KST

9 days

[grizzled summit]

so we aint getting a nj album till 2025?

[hoary frost]

It seems like it unfortunately. They don’t even have a producer at the moment.

[knotty valve]

Yeah probably, who knows how this situation shakes out by then. Any sort of plan to rollout an album ain’t happening now since it takes weeks to get that promotion rolling out and we only have a few months before the year ends

[stone grotto]

Album/artist/song of the year 2025

[jolly junco]

She did not. MHJ side havent said anything about accepting this new offer from HYBE. So dont spread misinfo to other tokkis

[hoary frost]

oh man, sorry, I wasn't trying to spread false information, I just misread her message. I thought she had asked if hybe had offered the position of internal director to MHJ, I didn't know she had asked if MHJ had accepted, it was just a misunderstanding. Anyway, I apologize

https://x.com/nj_fact_check

NewJeans Fact Check (@NJ_Fact_Check) on X

An account to correct misinformation about NewJeans.

Twitter

follow this acc

[short laurel]

suspended account ?

[jolly junco]

Man antis work super hard, its new account and already suspended

[bronze jetty]

no way 😭

[jolly junco]

That account was run by a k-bunnies, to help us corrected false information for international kpop fans

[short laurel]

again twitter banning decent account but doing nothing against jjinjin and sniper

[sage pilot]

How is NJ fact check already suspended and jinjins still up and running 💀

[jolly junco]

K-bunnies can easily give us correct sources for any information regarding newjeans from k-news

[short laurel]

i guess to stay unbanned, accounts need to praise elon or something.

[jolly junco]

Because its new. New account can get suspended very easy with mass report

[short laurel]

if u know the user can u invite them to this server ?

[jolly junco]

I dont. But they should be in bunnies server

[sage pilot]

The army cult is insane, wow

[short laurel]

i m not on bunnies server. do they have english channel for this topic ?

[jolly junco]

I dont think they have. The public channel are only for newjeans talk and general talk. Maybe they have different group like Team Bunnies

[sage pilot]

I’ve reported jinjins and sniper like million times and each time twitter is like “this acc is not a subject to removal”. I hate twitter. Elon ruined it

[short laurel]

i just think we should have a korean tokki here to verify information we are sharing, there's chance we could be misunderstanding alot of things here.

[jolly junco]

Tokkis cant even make a new account in peace

[jolly junco]

There are few kbunnies in here who speak english. But they dont engage much about this issue

[short laurel]

we need someone who do. like that user wh ogot suspended.

[jolly junco]

That account was only live for a few hours, wow cult fandom work so fast. Did they ever take a break from internet? How can they find that account so fast

[mild mist]

probably got people in places like this, watching

[jolly junco]

The dedication to hate newjeans are next level

[short laurel]

if someone said they build an entire network of spies and moles just to hate on different groups, i'd believe it, cuz NJ aren't the only ones who suffered under them like this.

[jolly junco]

I hope they wont find it so fast and mass report again

[short laurel]

u shouldn't have said that here, now those moles hidden here will dedicate their life to finding those accounts.

[sage pilot]

well it’s true, they did build their system. that bluedenise acc on twitter was running/still running a nj fan acc to spy on tokkis

[jolly junco]

Oh

[short laurel]

who is bluedenise. i don't know them hmm

[sage pilot]

~t this one https://x.com/phamh4nni/status/1835288880448164087?s=46

[narrow seal]

240915 phamh4nni Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/phamh4nni/status/1835288880448164087
Remember when bluedenise forgot to log on her army acc and tweeted this on her newjeans fanpage 😭

[sage pilot]

she’s a big army acc, 19k followers, one of the main army accs that attacks nj on regular basis

[short laurel]

this reminds me of that bp hater account forgot they were on nj fan account

[sage pilot]

I thought that nj fan acc was hacked?

[stiff prairie]

wtf?

at least you gotta admire the passion to hate ig

[short laurel]

could be that maybe, could be both honestly, seen people having different accounts to hate each other. in debut era blinks hated nj too.

[jolly junco]

More like confused, fighting 1 person is already exhausting. Cant imagine someone fighting a whole fandom

[short laurel]

funny thing about this post is. it only make them look dirty, share this to normal public and they'll praise nj for standing up.

https://x.com/secretvault0722/status/1835292962290581850 xD

gus | Bunnies 🪐🔚🩷 NewJeans too (@secretvault0722) on X

@phamh4nni next new project for HYBE will be HYBE church

Twitter · Sep 15, 2024, 12:21 PM

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/everywonblink/status/1846947470099587120?s=46

[narrow seal]

241017 everywonblink Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/everywonblink/status/1846947470099587120
Reposting because hybe stans mass reported NJ Fact Check

[sage pilot]

let’s hope nj fact check can be unsuspended

[short laurel]

another funny thing is that belift message about that incident proved jjinjin wrong.

[jolly junco]

IJBOL 🤣🤣

They trying so hard to make hanni a liar but failed

[sage pilot]

they don’t care 😭 three particular fandoms are eating up everything jjinjins and sniper spew ~t https://x.com/aecendio/status/1846786488018592240?s=46

☆ (@aecendio) on X

gullible on purpose 😭😭

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 5:33 AM

[jolly junco]

Lost cause

[stiff prairie]

I mean atp pretty sure even their fans know that these accounts are spewing bs. When does shame kick in for them

[jolly junco]

I block each and everyone from those 3 everytime they showed up on my timeline, right away

I even filtered some words (using their fandom name). Peaceful days

Now my timeline only full of newjeans related, so i can read news about them without some toxic antis

[stiff prairie]

My algorithm pretty much got the hang of what I don't wanna come across

I just find them when NJ fans quote them and stuff

[sly python]

DID WE WIN?!?!?

[short laurel]

same. NJ fans keep quoting them. or i fidn them in replies to good post with them screaming their usual bs xD

[short laurel]

no. nothing change, what they gave MHJ today is what she already had, no real power and needing permission from fake ceo.

[sly python]

ahhh that makes sense, i knew it was too good to be true

its another "plan a world tour & album in 2 months" type deal

[short laurel]

yea

[sly python]

but vague enough to save face amidst the negative public image

"we gave her "CEO" position like she asked for..."

[short laurel]

not it's "we gave her position to work on NJ like she asked for"

[sly python]

gotta be patient & stay strong, little by little

[waxen musk]

Every time news such as today's happens, people explaining how it could help in Hybe's favour diminishes the hope I had, even if just a little. I want to be a realist, but doing so just concludes with uncertainty and requires more patience.

I'm scared to even ask what challenges we could face in the future even if MHJ wins the injunction.

I'm basically just saying I really need something to add to my TOKKIUM. Anything!

[short laurel]

if it helps. entire world is looking at hybe, knows hybe is in the wrong. everyone knows that fake ceo failed in her duties and belift kinda admitted that they got nj blueprint hence breach of trust from belift or hybe side

the only ones who don't get this are irrelevent people.

[hoary frost]

I’m so confused the story keeps changing 😵‍💫 I’ve given up trying to understand what actually happened

[sage pilot]

I'm kinda on the opposite side. In the beginning, I had a lot of anxiety about this whole conflict, but as time went on, I realized just how strong MHJ & NewJeans are. Even if HYBE will win on the 26th, MHJ and NewJeans will win the war in the end. No matter if they'll lose/win on the 26th, they'll comeback stronger and they will not back down. Also, I like to tell myself that the greatest art comes from the greatest suffering. MHJ and NewJeans will overcome all of this and will become unstoppable in the future. Stay strong so you can watch their journey

[red thorn]

To be real obv we wouldn't know what actually happened, but by far no inconsistency on mhj/nj's story side based on their testimonies regarding their version of the facts

[waxen musk]

It has been up and down for me. Their fighting sprit is what gets me through this. I don't doubt that things will eventually work out for them, whatever form that will take. But that form is uncertain and changes a lot, especially the time frame. It's a marathon with an ever changing finish goal. Just need patience.

[hoary frost]

What’s the source that Illit was in Japan? Sorry if I missed any statements.

Who came up with the rumours? Belift?

[waxen musk]

Is it just this fact check you are confused about? It's basically just Bunnies confirming the dates for things where jjinjins is claiming the dates don't line up with the evidence around the "ignore me" situation. jjinjins are wrong (as usual).

[hoary frost]

I’m not on twitter so I don’t really see these accounts

[waxen musk]

jjinjins is an infamous account that spreads misinfo constantly.

[hoary frost]

Oh so some random account claimed that Illit was in Japan?

[red thorn]

Yeah, disinformation by the popular anti

[hoary frost]

Oh okay damn

[sage pilot]

Yeah. Idk if that will help you or not, but you must prepare yourself to gather even more patience if they lose on the 26th and have to terminate their contracts. This battle will be even longer than the current one, so be prepared. Let’s all hope it will not come to that. Although… Just imagine how good the post-HYBE album will be

[waxen musk]

I don't think you need to worry about the specifics of this specific fact check. But yes it's "some random account".

[short laurel]

When the event with hanni happened. Brands had released pre-recorded stuff from japan. Jjinjin didn't understand what pre-recorded means. That's about it.

[hoary frost]

Belift never said Illit were in Japan so why is he making up stuff for them 💀 oh my days

[short laurel]

Even know nj releasing stuff which probably recorded months ago lol

[red thorn]

They were in japan was a fact
The date tho

[short laurel]

Those accounts making stuff up, sharing fake screenshot claiming it's the source but mvr sharing actually source cuz "tokkies will mass report to get it deleted" or something.

[sage pilot]

Jinjins always come up with various lies and his audience believe him. He pulls his lies from Korean incel forums like fmkorea or GP999. He’s been caught multiple times. So don’t mind him, it’s useless to understand where his lies are coming from

[short laurel]

They were in japan be4 but not during the hanni incident. At that time they were in korea. Don't confuse him anymore

[short laurel]

And Koreans warned us these 3 accounts are coming to spread lies n to be careful. They knew it even be4 us.

[short laurel]

Seriously, deleted so quickly smh..

[stiff prairie]

"you ain't seen anything"

[valid sierra]

old ador wouldve already done something with those accounts

[waxen musk]

Can you clarify: was jjinjin's post deleted after the fact check (I haven't looked) or are you saying the fact check account was deleted (I'm already aware)? I only ask cos u say "smh" then CakeJuice&Bread says "you ain't seen anything".

[stiff prairie]

Nah it's a different topic

[waxen musk]

A different topic? We're only talking about jjinjin's post.

Oh, are you saying a message in this thread was deleted? That's probably why I'm confused (lack of context).

[stiff prairie]

I don't think they could do very much besides releasing heavy worded statements. Another friendly sublabel already tried to go after a hate account but Twitter said they won't release the identity

[waxen musk]

I'm ready for Twitter to go away forever. I hate how reliant we are on it for updates, but also misinfo.

[stiff prairie]

Twitter thrives on engagement so people always write controversial ragebait missinfo etc type things to get those engagement stonks up

[mild mist]

a post hybe album needs a cover of this classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtKLSpCJH6c

[onyx hearth]

Okg bts “Stans” are so embarrassing

[leaden igloo]

I will genuinely laugh if Jin’s cb doesn’t do well

[buoyant hamlet]

I've been trying to follow along what happened the past few days but seems like there is a ton of misinformation on twitter. Did MHJ accept the position back into Ador? I didn't see any official reports that she did but antis on twitter are acting as she did

[sage pilot]

She didn’t (at the very least not yet). If she were just a director, she would have no real authority and have to answer to Ador’s CEO KYJ. To be a simple in-house director isn’t her goal. Her goal is to return to the CEO position. Hybe’s “offer” is simply to delude the media. Don’t trust them. Just wait for the injunction’s result on oct 26

[leaden igloo]

I heard the board elected her but idk if she signed anything

[valid sierra]

its for director position (Board of Directors). they are above the CEO. so currently there are 3 BOD members (including new CEO) who are under hybe control, and MHJ

they make the broad decisions like yearly plan. the CEO oversee and manage that plan

thats why before all of these, MHJ had full control of ADOR because 2 out of 4 BOD members are on her side (the 2 replaced). So in terms of voting, MHJ had 75% which is enough to enact the decision

[jolly junco]

Lets not making it hard, in simple words MHJ wants full control of ADOR but HYBE dont want her full control over ADOR. Thats it

[sly python]

same ( )

[short laurel]

Someone tagged me here saying something n when i opened it was deleted 😂

[short laurel]

It spread on tiktok n ig too.
They using riize situation to attack on hanni. It's crazy how they not even understand what hanni was talking about. Especially jjinjin posts are spreading too much.

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/NJ_Fact_Check/status/1846940194005717382

they are back

NewJeans Fact Check (@NJ_Fact_Check) on X

Debunking Claims that Hanni lied.

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 3:43 PM

not suspended anymore

[short laurel]

Post not opening.

https://x.com/dittor_i/status/1846994250795282796?t=2FfAdlMkjfJgyoktWk_8pg&s=19

Btw this 🤣

Dittori (@dittor_i) on X

Oh, sniper manipulated jjinjins???

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 7:18 PM

[stiff prairie]

They're buddies. Just playing w each other ig

[red thorn]

Two peas in the pod

[wind monolith]

i was expecting mhj to release a statement about the in house director thing, we prbly got to wait till 26th it seems like

[copper current]

just wait

[jolly junco]

maybe she's tired to repeat the same thing over and over again

[red thorn]

Not official press release, but this report on the statement is could be applied on this situation

[hoary frost]

isnt team bunnies the same one as nwjnstream?

cuz i remember nwjnstream said they have a lot of evidence agaisnt hybe's pr team yall think they gonna bring it up in the 25th?

[sick fable]

That's when the court makes their decision on the injunction right?

[jolly junco]

yes same team

[steep torrent]

replies asking for source want this to be true so bad..

[jolly junco]

so did they have source or not?

[red thorn]

Bsh fanfic

[ocean arch]

That acc is probably the type of people who call bsh daddy

[stiff prairie]

can we not share sniper jinjin etc here?
ruins my day tbh

[modern fog]

only share updates and valid sources of this matter, don't share any stupidity like accounts like that.

[tawdry vessel]

i definetly agree

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/newjeansstrm/status/1847267708922196260?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

[narrow seal]

241018 NewJeansSTRM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1847267708922196260
ENG) Hello, this is Team Bunnies.

We received information from an anonymous source that Weverse CEO Choi Joon-won’s selection as a witness for the National Assembly’s Political Affairs Committee audit scheduled for the 21st has been withdrawn. Although the specific reason for

[jolly junco]

I’m so in love with this Team Bunnies they work harder to protect newjeans than fraudor these days

[stoic heron]

omg yes

[wheat raft]

goats

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/mymomoty/status/1847175567415955643

[narrow seal]

241018 mymomoty Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/mymomoty/status/1847175567415955643
https://t.co/6oijgQNXw0

[valid sierra]

1. Aren't celebrities workers?
   According to the Income Tax Act, they are not workers, but self-employed individuals. However, in the sense that they belong to a company (subordinate to the company) and work (labor) according to the company's instructions to produce surplus value, and receive a portion of that surplus value from the company that owns it, they are workers. To talk about Hani's 5.2 billion, we have to talk about Bang Si-hyuk's 2 trillion. That 2 trillion is not entirely due to Bang Si-hyuk's labor, but rather comes from the surplus value produced by the singers under his control.
   https://www.instagram.com/p/DBQiewwTBRT/?img_index=1
   So artists are indeed freelancers, and yet they have exclusive contracts. how does it make sense?????

[short laurel]

Article is again missing the point. This whole thing assembly agenda was about every contract workers. Even if u just count idols, locked in for 7 years with next to no personal input allowed n being complete puppet, there's huge amount of idols who earn much lower than avg salary man. There's also trainee debt, even under big 4 idols don't earn a penny for 1st 1-2 year or even more.
This article completely ignores everything.

K media sucks

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1846973212934148505 does not contain any media!

[cerulean ermine]

https://x.com/Koreaboo/status/1846973212934148505?t=HdueXG0Z0StJzFrC7JMS4A&s=19

Koreaboo (@Koreaboo) on X

Min Hee Jin Reappointed As ADOR Director
https://t.co/uibRXF0Unz

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 5:55 PM

[leaden igloo]

Not ceo…that headline got my hopes up tho

Misinformation for more engagement…it’s working on me tho

[short laurel]

Yea we discussed it here be4, we don't know If mhj accepted it or not.

[cerulean ermine]

waiting some statements about MHJ will be back as a CEO

[waxen musk]

1 more week until we know

[short laurel]

Regardless of what happens, as long as hybe's puppet in decision making positions, nj are not protected, i miss the days when ador took action against malicious actors really fast.

[timber shell]

fr, team bunnies taking literally every legal action after that hybe report thing

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1729313166:d>

HYBE is a complete fraud, and by now, everyone except their die-hard stans knows it. From manipulative media play to artificially inflating album sales, from room salons and tenpros to shady golf lobbying, if you can think of any dirty, underhanded shenanigans in the entertainment industry, they've done it. Their business practices are a masterclass in exploitation, using their influence to silence critics, twist narratives, and game the system. It’s not about music for them—it's about money and power. It’s about creating an empire built on deception and unethical dealings.

📷:bbor

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1847532277477363838

[narrow seal]

241019 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1847532277477363838
What happened to @haerin1st?

[jolly junco]

how do you do this??? i reported those 2 accounts almost everyday, but still nothing..........

[stiff prairie]

Reading the comments it feels like some sort of inner fanwar stuff and not really connected to the other fandom

[red thorn]

Shame
But it's what it's
Fandom

[short laurel]

well their behavior was poor. akgae's are not fun.

[jolly junco]

oh i see

[wheat raft]

when you are on twitter for too long your brain starts to rot and then you basically start having strong egoistic opinions

its cool when you go irl and see fans in real life and realize theres more to the world than twitter 🤣

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/inetzreact/status/1846884798574317755

[narrow seal]

241017 inetzreact Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/inetzreact/status/1846884798574317755
[Nate] Knets react: 'NewJeans mom' Min Hee-jin reappointed as internal director of ADOR... 3-year term begins next month https://tinyurl.com/yrfc24pp

#NewJeans #MinHeeJin

[hoary frost]

Seems it’s official then

[short laurel]

No, it's not official until mhj herself confirms it, that post is just knetz reaction

[hoary frost]

MHJ is waiting for court's decision so she will not comment on this yet

what will happen if she loses injunction?

my question every single day 💀

[upbeat stream]

I think she is likely to lose since hybe said that even if she is re-instated, they'll kick her out again

Should the court decide that she should be brought back, I wonder what they can do prevent hybe from removing her? Perhaps a very high penalty?

They can't add criminal liability, right?

[hoary frost]

does this injunction also decide whether her put option is still valid or not

[short laurel]

Penalty yes, mhj gotta prove to court that bod is hybe's puppet,

[hoary frost]

she needs to get that put option IDC steal that money or whatever

[hoary frost]

common sense can prove that

[short laurel]

Common sense doesn't work in court without physical evidence, otherwise court would've ended it on hearing day.

Since Hybe's argument is bod has free will.

[hoary frost]

ugh its so frustrating

[upbeat stream]

I'm gonna assume she will lose. What is the recourse then?

[hoary frost]

i do hope she has something stronger as evidence but i doubt tbh

will they submit petitions again

i mean members and staff and co

[hoary frost]

That’s what I want to know to. I know we need to be hopeful but we also have to prepare ourselves for the worst. What’s the next best route if she’s not reappointed?

she will have to wait for the main lawsuit

[hoary frost]

I totally forgot about that too lol

and meanwhile consider internal director role

the issue is NJ activities are being hurt while her position and future is unclear

we might never get that album atp

Don’t say that 🥹

What will I listen to if they aren’t releasing music. I will be bored to death.

i mean lets be realistic. NJ does not have executive producer right now. that's MHJ's role. no one in current BOD has any idea about production. HYBE has fired her without having anyone to fill her role which basically jeopardizes NJ future activities. If MHJ role remains unclear, NJ new album
and tour is going to be delayed more and more

if she wins and becomes CEO again, they can probably release new album in early 2025, but if she does not, whats gonna happen?

Hm…I was thinking that they finished making the album or they were nearly done with it and all they have to do is release it. This makes things very complicated

I know that internal director role or production contract is not made in good faith. We all know it. They want her completely out but can't, hence, using tricks.

[hoary frost]

I mean NJ says they don’t want to work with anyone but MHJ. If HYBE hires a new producer in the middle of all this it will look like they are sabotaging them.

hybe cant hire just anyone either even if they wanted to. that means starting everything from the scratch when NJ has been working on new album and tour. ofc this is sabotage

they are not just hiring creative director. it is executive producer they need. someone who is in charge of both music, concepts etc. this is BSH's role for other HYBE groups

[twin cypress]

Crazy idea but what if NJs themselves don’t want to release the new album under that fake ah ceo. The way hanni looked at her was with pure disgust 😂. I can’t see a world where they would want to drop the album and have her take credit for the success

[hoary frost]

doubt fraudor wants NJ to succeed given what they have been doing all along

[hoary frost]

So it’s basically CEO or nothing for MHJ? Because she can still technically produce for NJ but she can’t do it without the CEO role?

she can produce but we saw what kind of production contract they offered to her

unless they gave her full control on production, it will be impossible for her to work with NJ

[twin cypress]

Man that new mhj deal is a super slave contract she is never gonna accept that

[hoary frost]

Probably. Man, I would also do the same. Why would I give them credit after all the trouble?

[hoary frost]

Yeah, I think this is the next best thing.

[hoary frost]

It’s so clear they don’t want her there. Another worry I have is if she comes back as CEO or producer how toxic the environment will be in that building. It’s not going to be good for their wellbeing.

[hoary frost]

they will never give her that

hybe will never offer her contract in good faith. lets start there.

[hoary frost]

“They will never give her CEO” “they will never give her a good producer contract” oh my days 😫 what will come out of this

it is CEO or nothing imo

[short laurel]

Like seriously the best solution is for hybe's puppet in bod to be out.

[hoary frost]

That’s kinda sad

[twin cypress]

I mean her first deal with hybe was a slave contract as well but this new one is worse cause she is under those belift dummies

They would just steal everything for that group or deny opportunities to spite NJs and mhj

[short laurel]

It's been publicly proven that current ador doesn't care about nj. Girls getting so much malicious attack n fake ador did nothing.
Og ador used to be quick to take action.
Why can't this be used to show that hybe n fake ador bod are acting in bad faith in court. 😭

[hoary frost]

What on earth is she doing with all that free time?

[twin cypress]

It probably will be used I think the girls are piling up all of the bad things hybe did pre mhj and post mhj for their cases but I think they are just waiting for the mhj case to have a resolution before going scorched earth

The only way I see them staying at hybe is if mhj is with them

I can’t see them staying there with people who hate them and don’t have the best interests in mind

[short laurel]

Honestly i wish there was a way they could leave hybe while keeping their ip.

[hoary frost]

Same here. In a perfect world I could see them leaving and building their own company….but it’s not a perfect world 😭

[twin cypress]

I don’t see them building their own company but joining an established distributor like Sony or umg would probably be the move

[hoary frost]

I saw something that MHJ set up her own office. If that’s true then this will be good for the members because I can’t imagine how toxic that building is for them

[short laurel]

If they want to start a new agency, mhj probably have no issue with finding investors

[flint stone]

What main lawsuit?

[cosmic belfry]

When Hybe recently dismissed her, they filed an injunction ahead to confirm the legality. This was to prevent her from filing an injunction.

She is more likely to win that case but she filed this current injunction because she wants to return to her role sooner.

[flint stone]

When are results? And by any chance, do you have the link to translated version of any articles about this?

[flint stone]

So if she loses current injunction but wins the case, what will happen?

[cosmic belfry]

The main case concerns the CEO role so she would be able to return if she wins as the shareholder's agreement would be reviewed. That agreement guarantees her role as CEO.

As for articles, I'll look but any of the ones talking about dismissing her might mention the injunction filed by HYBE.

[flint stone]

Oke oke, thank you

[red thorn]

No need official statement for re-appointment as internal director because it's one of her request, hybe granted it, it was the result of this 1st injunction.

[wind monolith]

so internal director was step 1

ceo is step 2

[red thorn]

The procure clause cannot enforced because hybe terminated the shareholders agreement

https://v.daum.net/v/20241011185929073

[wind monolith]

thats bad yikes

[short laurel]

Question is if hybe sides unilaterally termination Of contract legal.

Also even if whats written in article is accurate, be sus about it. Remember from the last injunction the judges words about the case was misinterpreted on purpose by hybe n kmedia.
So wait for mhj's response regardless of what the media says.

[wind monolith]

hm true hopefully mhj has something up her sleeve

[hoary frost]

rip

[vapid turret]

Sorry to be late but I hope that’s a good sign for the girls and their work. Let’s buy and listen to their albums and merch and stuff to promote them better than HYBE ever would

Oh wait I was updated!

[vapid turret]

So in other words it’s bad for the girls?

[warm hedge]

the fact HYBE offered MHJ director position is a positive sign IMO. but we just have to wait for the injunction, no one knows what will happen tbh.

[tawdry vessel]

It's mhjover

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1292156213127020584.png?size=160

[tawdry vessel]

hybe did that to weaken her case

[red thorn]

But the fact that Hybe still give or prolong her position in ador, probably there's still loophole invalidity for the termination shareholders agreement 🤔

[warm hedge]

they would have preferred not to do that. The fact they had to give MHJ director position suggests they think they might lose

[valid sierra]

is the SNL issue okay to talk about in here?

[silver warren]

~t https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP88P1pho/

What the actual hell is wrong with them?? They are so sick and disgusting, AND racist. Why is Hanni being overlooked FOR STANDING UP FOR HERSELF??

and speaking against hybe, which many other hybe idols are scared to do, which is why Hanni had to do it. Because she knows that it’s not the idols their selves (unlike some people..) she knows that it’s the staff who is sick and cruel. And people make fun of her for that???

What is this world that we live in? That you can’t stick up against your company unless you want to get bullied for doing so.
It’s unacceptable..

[ocean arch]

To think she cosplayed as hanni for clout and even went to a variety show wearing that clothes.talk abt being ungrateful

[knotty valve]

It’s sad that I’m sure Hanni has probably has seen this, I’m sure she ain’t going to call it out like she should cause of the culture there but man I wish she’d tear her a new one cause wow what an absolute loser.

[valid sierra]

imo, i think people should direct the blame to SNL league not Ji Ye-Eun. Shes very kind in runningman and the PDs and scripwriters of SNL league are the one in charge. also "artists are not guily"

[cosmic belfry]

Yea she def saw it. She mentioned she loves SNL on Phoning and then had to clarify she was talking about American SNL because Ariana Grande was a guest recently.

[valid sierra]

people from twitter really taking it to another whole level sending very malicious dms to her

[cosmic belfry]

Wait actually I have my timeline mixed up. She said that before the skit but nevertheless she knows about Korean SNL but prob not a fan.

[hoary frost]

We need to report the video to be taken down or something. This is really bad.

[hoary frost]

But she still chose to take part of it knowing what the script was about. She is definitely guilty. And what kind of “artist” makes fun of other people. Hanni should definitely call it out, she didn’t go to the NA for nothing.

[jolly junco]

hanni shouldnt have to call out anyone, its the agency that should protest against SNL to protect their artist

this is so sad 😭 she used to be 1000000% E, all these feud must have taken alot of their mental health

[wheat raft]

probably not that deep, personalities change

i retook my test after 4 yrs and my introvert grew by 10%

[ocean arch]

I'm a fan of her in running man.thats why I'm more disappointed.

[hoary frost]

You are still expecting Ador to do something?

[ocean arch]

SNL didn't even dare to used bsh real name when they made a skit abt him in america with a bj.but this time they used hanni 's name.its also a form of bullying the weak.

[hoary frost]

Bunnies are going to have to work overtime and fail another complaint to the labour and environment committee. This is not on.

How many times do we have to complain and report and fight bullies in order for the members to get the simple respect they deserve? What a strange world 🗑️

[warm hedge]

so a young woman bravely speaks out against her experience of workplace bullying , and SNL respond by ridiculing her? seriously wtf is wrong with them

[hoary frost]

Seriously? Have they never felt social exclusion in their life or a boss telling others to ignore them? Wow. Very inhumane.

I did try reporting the video earlier but YT is not helpful giving me useless excuses

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/newjeansnews_/status/1847842062277992902

[narrow seal]

241020 newjeansnews_ Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeansnews_/status/1847842062277992902
[theqoo hot/daum] SNL Korea who is an embarrassment to the country, receives major backlash after their mocking behaviour towards NewJeans Hanni (+Nobel Prize Winning Author Han Kang)
https://shorturl.at/ferNq

[short laurel]

They mocked their countries Nobel price winner?

[cinder verge]

what are dates in need to look out for

[tardy smelt]

Oct 24th BELIFT CEO at National Assembly
Oct 25th injunction due date
Oct 26th injunction decision
Nov 5th HYBE convertible bonds repayment

[wind monolith]

whats on the 24th😭

[tardy smelt]

BELIFT CEO at NA

[arctic sky]

This is what u get now when you type schedule shit

[short laurel]

Tokkies bullied a hater female doctor to delete her nonsense content. Dam.

[valid sierra]

and she talked about bullying like damn, she doesnt count her mockery to Hanni as bullying???

[astral dust]

*x -c https://x.com/phamgucci/status/1847870464439279998?s=46&t=kXGhBk_3DiP7ccDDKf8qcQ

[harsh dove]

@phamgucci <t:1729401625:d>

Korean armys telling i-armys to stop their nonsense and that it’s them who sent the wreaths flower to yoongi lol😭

[short laurel]

It's crazy how many Adults are mocking hanni. N how many of them are females too. Why do people have no shame

[hoary frost]

this is some disgusting work from hybe

[cosmic belfry]

The whole article is a fluff piece but I wouldn't say it's giving credit. It's just mentioning an example of issues.

[flint stone]

Wtf? How can they give credit for Hanni's attending of NA?

[hushed whale]

stop looking at lia's tweets, they always twist things to start fanwars

[flint stone]

Yeah, and I think I know whose twit this is

[mild mist]

Sounds like BBC news all right

[hoary frost]

the article is real tho im just pointing out how disgusting hybe's pr work is

[hushed whale]

ye weird timing

[short laurel]

Article is weird to me cuz lsfm saying they wanting to change industry while working under the problem company with problem fanbase.

[mild mist]

It's possible they believe in change from the inside

It's also possible that it's all nonsense made up by PR

[short laurel]

Somu way of making post during drama like throwing shades on others || garam n mhj || makes it a bad look.

[hoary frost]

my problem is why put on that title and use another groups feats on the article?

[hoary frost]

tbh no hate to lsfm but i think they couldnt do anything good when they are under BSH besides them "being transparent about their struggles" like no other groups makes documentary for sympathy

[hushed whale]

i will always sideeye somu for leaking those videos

[short laurel]

Yea. I m sure they genuinely want to change it but the way somu does things n girls being silent about it.
But i keep seeing then saying they want to change industry but nvr seen them throwing even slight shade at the company.
Tbh, I wouldn't be surprised that "wanting to change the idol industry" is fed by bsh.

[mild mist]

Well he certainly did want to change the idol industry, that's why he wasted a lot of money setting up an nft platform

[hoary frost]

It seems this author has no experience writing about K-pop. You don’t mention two groups without distinguishing the connotations it makes.

I read the article. It mentions Hanni’s standing up for herself alongside Le Sserafim’s story to highlight a broader trend of K-pop idols speaking out, but it doesn’t claim Le Sserafim influenced Hanni’s actions. Each artist’s experiences and statements are their own, without one taking credit for the other.

But I could see how it looks like they are. It’s just a poorly written article and I don’t think it was necessary to mention Hanni. Either the author is naive and trying to write an inspiring story or is trying to cause fan wars.

[vapid turret]

Weird it’s more so that Le sserafim actually supports newjeans. Those girls groups actually like each other

BTW chat any confirmation?

Check?

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1845865090312007763?s=46

[narrow seal]

241014 pannchoa Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannchoa/status/1845865090312007763
NewJeans' full album get erased from HYBE's Q4 plans
https://tinyurl.com/2p9j2mwu

[short lynx]

.

[vapid turret]

Oh slight misinformation from that post old news my bad

[copper current]

They are fake, just a group pretending doing all changing stuffs, lip services and in the back end, they are yes men to Bang PD

[copper current]

Do you think Le group like NewJeans? I don't think so

[cerulean lake]

let’s not say that abt them

[tardy smelt]

So we’re just talking shit about groups now, huh

[cerulean lake]

they were friends and hopefully they still all are

need to chill

[wheat raft]

I still think artists dont have hate for each other. Fandoms do though, fuelled by social media and probably hybe themselves

[bronze jetty]

i don't think the idols dislike each other, it's just the fandoms as it always is, unfortunately

[hoary frost]

Being mean is not cool dude. You can still support NJ without bringing down another group. Hanni testified against bullying, let’s follow her example.

[copper current]

I don’t bully that group. Did I bully them? Nope, just state my opinion that I don’t like two faced people but I will not state it here anymore in NJ group. End of the talk here, don’t drag this

[short laurel]

This issue aside. I just found a big post n saw how haters view the entire event. The result of mistranslation. I m afraid it'll start spreading tomorrow. Already 50k likes on tiktok.

[copper current]

Which issue

Which post?

[short laurel]

|| https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSjJw1kQd/ ||
The entire summary is incorrect.

Makes me sad how they act like they care for nj but being wrong about everything n "bunnies" believing it

[hoary frost]

Who says “did I bully them” while spitting some mean things about them? Did that person even pay attention to the NA? Blocked. 🥴

Let’s stick to what the thread is about and not involve other innocent artists.

[copper current]

I already say I don’t want to talk about that anymore , hey stop bothering me, I will not answer you anymore, don’t stir things here

[copper current]

Don’t pay attention to that, I saw misinformation videos on YouTube so I just reported and put mute. Truth will prevail until the end. Evil will receive the punishment since they think they can do bad things to others

[short laurel]

Problem is i c multiple of these posts n "bunnies" falling for it.

[copper current]

Then you should create videos to refute that. I saw bunnies who start posting videos to refute that. Effort will pay, anyway this takes time in this fight.

[short laurel]

That's what I've been doing, that's also why i shared it here

[copper current]

Yeah, good job, other bunnies are defending the girls as well. Any evil who spread misinformation will eventually be consumed by the evilness so I hope truth will prevail, looking at the amount of celebrities who support NJ

[waxen musk]

it's time

[jolly junco]

MONDAY!! anything new?

[waxen musk]

i dont think hybe knows it's monday. dont tell them

tbf i dont really remember anything last week, the day before hanni's NA appearance

[jolly junco]

they have been laying low ever since the injuction hearing

i dont know if this is good or bad

[waxen musk]

They don't have time for it because they're trying to scape the bottom of the barrel for new "evidence" to give on Friday (something they didn't even do last time)

(I HOPE) Seriously though they've run out of new things to talk about, only bringing up old topics again

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/newjeans250/status/1848164326827573379

[narrow seal]

241021 newjeans250 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeans250/status/1848164326827573379
언론도 추이브가 짭도어로부터 40억 탈취한 것에 대해 문제 제기하기 시작함 이 부분도 국정감사에서 다뤄졌으면 좋겠다 내부거래는 부당이익을 취할 수 있기 때문에 대부분의 국가에서는 이를 범죄로서 처벌하고 우리나라는 금융감독원이 단속활동을 하고 있음 40억이면 웬만한 기관 사업 규모보다 큼

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/ash_realize/status/1848161922396610857

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241021 ash_realize Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/ash_realize/status/1848161922396610857
하이브IM, 분쟁 중인 어도어와 40억 내부거래
IP 가져다 쓰고 하이브IM 매출로 인식…거래 목적 불분명. 하이브가 그룹 '뉴진스'로 매출이 급증한 어도어를 이용해 신사업 매출을 부풀리려는 것 아니냐는 의혹
https://dealsite.co.kr/articles/129742

[modern fog]

now translate

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/newjeans250/status/1847952204461990199

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241020 newjeans250 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeans250/status/1847952204461990199
방씨는 작곡가였다 11년에 거센 표절 논란에 휩싸인적이 있었다 이후로 방씨는 대부분의 작곡에 단독으로 참여하지 않고 있다 21년 방씨의 꺼무위키만 봐도 표절 논란이 있었지만 현재는 찾을 수 없다 18년엔 게임 업계와 손을 잡았고 21년 하이브를 설립하고 의장이 된다 이후 지금까지 꿀빠는 중이다

[modern fog]

translate it

[copper current]

google translate or wait for Juantokki

[modern fog]

💀

[short lynx]

My translator gave me thia lol

[modern fog]

but what it is all about?

[short lynx]

Its obviously not very correct though

[modern fog]

there you go

[short lynx]

New gins!

[jolly junco]

my god they loss almost 20 billion from the gaming company??

according to the mostly wrong translation, HYBE IM didnt give the portion of sales to Ador?? when they used newjeans IP for the game?

[copper current]

[Reporter Ho-yeon Kim from Dealsite] There are claims that Hive, which is trying to transform into a comprehensive entertainment platform, is inflating sales from new businesses through internal transactions between affiliates. This is because Hive IM, a game and software affiliate, recognized 4 billion won in sales from Adore, a fellow affiliate.
According to the relevant industry on the 17th, HiveIM and Adore announced at the end of September that there was an internal transaction of 4.2 billion won between the two companies in the third quarter of this year. HiveIM took 4.1 billion won in sales from Adore. On the other hand, the sales recognized by Adore from HiveIM were only 90 million won.
The only explanation given by both companies is that the purpose of the transaction is game royalties, etc. The market is raising suspicions that Hive is trying to inflate sales of its new business by using Adore, which has seen a surge in sales with the group 'New Jeans'. If it is common practice to feature artists from Hive’s sub-labels in games, the sub-labels should recognize revenue for purposes such as copyright fees. The transaction between Adore and Hive IM is the opposite of the normal case, in that Adore used Hive IM’s game services and paid for them.
Last August, Hive IM updated its new service by introducing New Jeans into its game Rhythm Hive. Considering that New Jeans is a group under Adore and that Hive IM used their IP, Adore should have taken the sales.
A market insider pointed out, "Hybe is already trying to take tens of billions of won in sales from Adore every quarter, but Hybe IM, which has not yet established itself, is recognizing the sales for unclear transaction purposes," adding, "If this structure continues, problems may accumulate, such as a decrease in the settlement amount that artists should receive."

https://theqoo.net/hot/3451354055

[jolly junco]

meaning HYBE just took their artist IP but not paying them from the sales they got from the game? LOL

isnt that robbery?

[copper current]

that is stealing amd embezzlement, Fraudor CEO should go to jail

[short laurel]

Yea I've been wondering why his balant plagiarism is not mentioned in his profile.

[short lynx]

Yea

[short laurel]

More added for termination lawsuit incase nj goes through it

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1848178708768850137

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241021 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1848178708768850137
hybe is inflating their sales numbers for their "new gaming business" using ador's (newjeans) revenue of 4 billion won as "sales".. Hybe IM is using newjeans' hard earned revenue to embezzle funds and make their shell company look legit.
🔗https://dealsite.co.kr/articles/129742

[copper jetty]

Hybe is piling up all the cases on huh...

Surprised there isn't any Hybe Monday Mediaplay Day yet...

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/ic0niclisa-throwing-tomato-gif-23144061

[jolly junco]

whats our schedule for this month and next month?

[wind monolith]

Oct 24th BELIFT CEO at National Assembly
Oct 25th injunction due date
Oct 26th injunction decision
Nov 5th HYBE convertible bonds repayment

[sage pilot]

With all the shady business Hybe is doing lately with NJ’s finances, it’s like they know NJ will file a lawsuit against them and hybe does not even try to get NJ on their side

I’ve never understood why ppl, incl. tokkis were saying that Hybe wouldn’t won’t NJ to go away. Just today they mediaplayed that they’re perfectly fine without NJ + buying deals for Illit on Spotify + and now this…

HYBE clearly wants NJ and MHJ out of Hybe

[waxen musk]

They want NJ's money but they don't want NJ to stay. I don't know how they plan on keeping that happening lol.

[sage pilot]

They plan to get away with everything and take every penny NJ ever made while making NJ pay the fine for breaking a contract

[waxen musk]

The annoying thing is I would love for even an extremely compromised situation just like April-August where MHJ was able to put out new music even though Hybe was sabotaging their efforts etc. I felt like we could continue like that for a while even though it's horrible it would at least allow the girls to perform and put out new music. But the more I think about it the more I can't accept this future and they need to get out. But then again getting out is so risky that maybe that compromised position is preferable. ARGHGH I hate this.

[copper current]

Guys, calling all talented Bunnies among more than 56000 bunnies in this server. Anyone who has good video editing skills, good summary skills and can create videos with good effect to upload to YouTube to spread truth to the world? I will share your videos. I have several accounts so I can share your video link? Any talented bunnies here

[waxen musk]

Maybe not the best place to ask but it sounds like you don't have much to offer whereas the person making the videos would be doing all the work. Bit confused with what you're saying.

[copper current]

yeah, I am not good at video editting so I ask, I can only share using my follower base

share link to your vid

[modern fog]

you already sent this on nj chat

[copper current]

yup in case no one knows this place

[sage pilot]

I don’t think HYBE ever wanted to compromise. It’s seems like their plan from the beginning was to kick out MHJ, replace NJ with Illit, take NJ’s money and “put them on a break while searching for a grammy winning producer” i.e. dungeoning them

[copper current]

video shoulod summarize everything from beginning of issue to end in easy understanding manner. that is why we need someone who is good, I admit i am not good, so I will help to share link to your video on YouTube

[waxen musk]

What I meant by compromise is a situation where Ador can technically work, perform, put out music but are consistently being sabotaged, just like before. It's Ador compromising by "suffering" under Hybe just to be able to exist.

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1848186384122601972

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241021 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1848186384122601972
Why would ADOR an entertainment company pay a gaming company when ADOR is the one with the Intellectual Property in NewJeans?

ADOR should be making money from HYBE IM and not the other way around

These transactions looks to be a way for HYBE to plunder ADOR before MHJ come back

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1848181023386763325

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241021 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1848181023386763325
This transaction needs to be looked into seriously.

Looks suspicious and irregular.

[waxen musk]

Of course it's horrible to have them continue to suffer. But it's either that or an uncertain risky future trying to escape Hybe.

Obviously with how much keep piling up against Hybe, escaping Hybe seems more and more doable each day. But it's hard to know what the limit is for MHJ and the girls. Maybe they'll just "put up" with it like they have before. It's something they can do because they have before.

Both situations are terrible is the tl;dr.

[sage pilot]

Ador was killed the moment when they kicked out MHJ. There’s no way ador can function like before anymore

[sage pilot]

I don’t think there’s a “putting up with it” option anymore. Hybe said that even if the court reinstates MHJ, they will fire her again anyway. NJ is most likely to go away with her. Maybe I’m too pessimistic, but I don’t see this ending well, meaning staying with HYBE and stuff.

[copper current]

For me, I think fighting is better than leaving and wasting time. Time is money for NJ, their youth, their fame will reduce. If they leave, the other group that is used to replace them will rise and they will struggle more, for me, I think they should fight instead of giving up and leave

[waxen musk]

That's what Hybe said but whether that will happen or not is unknown. All this fight to become CEO again not be worth fighting for if it was certain they can absolutely fire her again.

[copper current]

if there are obstacles, they can overcome

Hybe wants NJ to leave the company and give up, so NJ should not do that, they should fight and overcome obstacles once at a time, war is like that, needs to detangle the node once at a time to free

[waxen musk]

There's no good situation.

That's why I'm just yapping just wondering out loud what the least worst option could be.

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-fall-and-back-gif-25193110

ah hell nah no way

[waxen musk]

I regret talking today. Too much doom. Let's just stay positive and hope for MHJ to be back as CEO and see what happens next.
SHE WILL WIN
(manifesting)

[wind monolith]

ya we should always keep positive vibes

[calm leaf]

she will win

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1848201983666405506

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241021 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1848201983666405506
HYBE IM’s 4 Billion Won Internal Transaction Dispute with ADOR
https://dealsite.co.kr/articles/129742
Deal Site Reporter Kim Hoyeon

HYBE IM records sales using ADOR's IP... Purpose of transaction unclear.

HYBE, which is attempting to transform itself into a comprehensive entertainment

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1848212685059686869

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241021 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1848212685059686869
Gangbuk District

"First and foremost, we sincerely apologize for the concerns caused to many by a video on the Gangbuk District YouTube channel.

Although the original intent of the video differed, we humbly accept the concerns and criticisms pointing out the discriminatory

[marble cape]

is this about the snl thing?

[timber shell]

yes

[cerulean lake]

i think it’s a different thing

that was just anpfher thing added to the snl debacle from what i remember

[sonic olive]

Why

Can u list the options that we get ?

[stiff prairie]

I guess hybe receiving revenue from ador and investing it into elsewhere is legal by contract since hybe is their main investor. But the discrepancy between the declaration of the amount given by ador and received by hybe should be an financially fraudulent? Why would ador not report the whole thing when it should be perfectly okay for them to do so under legal basis.

[short laurel]

If nj are out with a contract terminated. Other group might actually receive a alot of hate from locals. Be thief have been putting them as shield during all this drama, n koreans love to overreact.

[copper current]

The person who is standing at the end is the winner, if NJ leave, they will lose fan powers and media, but we will have to wait and see, NJ are people who make decision

[wind monolith]

i dont think they will lose fan power

fans support newjeans not ador or hybe

[short laurel]

Nj not gonna lose fan power or media.

[mild mist]

Regardless of how this ends, I am quite happily never giving hybe a penny again

[grizzled summit]

what happened now

[tawdry vessel]

same and also never listening to hybe artists except nj ofcourse

[stiff prairie]

Guys let's not turn this into a hate thread

Ok maybe hate hybe but not other artists pls

[tawdry vessel]

im not hating on any artists, they didn't do anything wrong

im b0yc0tting hybe which is the main root of the problem

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1292156213127020584.png?size=160

[mild mist]

I will absolutely hate hybe
They're doing their very best to discourage me from listening to K-pop ever again

[lucid yarrow]

I feel the same i haven't caught up to anything new since 2weeks ago maybe i should give up on kpop if they going put nj in dungeon...well aespa cb is today so is ahem illit i guess hybe has there new new jeans clone to beat aespa now not....

[hoary frost]

last stretch before the injunction results praying for some good news

[hoary frost]

just some thoughts on these cbs there’s no way hybe didn’t purposely plan this schedule they’re hoping their version of NJs can “step on aespa”

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1848237018750542002

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241021 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1848237018750542002
Atty. Kho Sang-rok talked about HYBE paid commenters in a community post 3 weeks ago. He stated:

"There are some who say I made a subtle insinuation about HYBE using paid commenters, but it wasn’t a subtle hint—I openly expressed a strong suspicion.

If, even after hearing that…

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1848341651980255281

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241021 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1848341651980255281
Article

October 21 2024

HYBE Executives Called to National Assembly Hearings: Bang Si-hyuk’s Leadership Under Scrutiny

Reporter Shin Sang-min

Link to follow

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1848344267359420645

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241021 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1848344267359420645
Translation of the screen cap of the qrt post.

Hmmm

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1848359089333559595

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241021 pannchoa Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannchoa/status/1848359089333559595
HYBE caught transferring 4 billion won between ADOR and their gaming subsidiary, market inside alleges HYBE made the transaction possible by taking NewJeans' salary
https://tinyurl.com/45e72nbh

[short laurel]

While they did take ador money, if that money is from nj's salary is just allegation. Hybe would be in tooo deep trouble if they did that.
So lets not form a conclusion on it like twitter has.

If anyone read haters comment on it, know that nj returned over 10 times of hybe's initial investment in their 1st year alone. So those haters comments are nonsense.

[stiff prairie]

damn i hate pannchoa for these things. i'll give them credit for sticking w nj. but the way they clearly spead rumors and clickbait missinfo is too much. hybe will never not give the members salary they are due because it will give the girls all reasons to move out of hybe along w their ip without paying a dime to hybe and they will never purposefully create a situation like that.

[neon igloo]

I think it`s just a part of media game to attract more attention to their tweets and articles

[vapid turret]

agreed there's no way Hybe would be cruel and stupid enough to steal their salary and not get caught.

[short laurel]

Hybe will be in so much trouble they wouldn't be able to escape with mediaplay if they do that.

[vapid turret]

Oh yeah but if they did the girls could literally sue for wage theft and possibly use that money to move to another company.

[short laurel]

exactly.

[vapid turret]

Again no company would be that stupid to do that and not get caught.

[short laurel]

tbh part of me wish hybe is stupid enough to actually do that.

[vapid turret]

Ditto

[short laurel]

aham* BBC aham*

[blazing sky]

is there a good korean website that talks about hanni's testimony? im writing an article about it for my school newspaper but i dont want to use just american articles talking about it

also straying far away from twitter

[copper current]

they are stupid with all their media play and people caught them many times

[copper current]

That is tough, the most trustworthy source is from Juantokki, that is why we need some bunnies who can summarize things and find sources properly to archive everything. We know things already because we follow but future bunnies are at loss

plus Hybe is destroying evidence by taking down news here and there

[blazing sky]

[copper current]

so taking video screenshots etc. is important but we are not organized at all because we are busy fighting

[blazing sky]

i gotcha. thank you!

[copper current]

let me check and see, don't be discouraged

[blazing sky]

is juantokki twitter?

[copper current]

yeah

[blazing sky]

i just dont want to use american news sites to speak on a topic not in america if that makes sense

i appreciate you thank you

[copper current]

ahha here is one link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Igwd1SCIBhj3lm6GRoeHxBOJCOhJBL_smuGa5xkqPo/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0

[blazing sky]

thank you!!

oh this is awesome so much info thank you so much <3

[copper current]

yeah, digging Juantokki, he/she has source of Korean as well

[short laurel]

well yea. but unfortunately hard to put any of those in court as illegal. sicne legal and moral are 2 separate things and there's paid judges things too.
what we were talking about is stupid enough to be very visibly illegal, to the point that they can't pay of court or media to hide.

[blazing sky]

did juantokki create this?

sorry, i wanna be sure i cite sources correctly (i know its just a translation of the audit)

[upbeat stream]

While it's probably true that hybe is only taking from ador's savings, not nwjns' salary, this money could have been invested into better promotions or a&r

[short laurel]

make sure to write article properly. alot of people still not get what hanni complained about even after reading proper translation.

[upbeat stream]

So it's still a net loss for nwjns

[short laurel]

or better, shutting down those malicious accounts.

[copper current]

[Full Transcript in English]
[Original Korean Transcript by
@13neverdie
]

~t https://x.com/soyamoyas/status/1848345126969786853

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241021 soyamoyas Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/soyamoyas/status/1848345126969786853
whoever shin sang min is I hope he has a delicious dinner tonight

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1848341651980255281

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241021 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1848341651980255281
Article

October 21 2024

HYBE Executives Called to National Assembly Hearings: Bang Si-hyuk’s Leadership Under Scrutiny

Reporter Shin Sang-min

Link to follow

[copper current]

owner is ~t https://x.com/13neverdie

Di (@13neverdie) on X

오늘부터 1031 철야기도회 빡세게간다

Twitter

[blazing sky]

thank you so much <3

[copper current]

always welcome

[jolly junco]

Goodluck for your school newspaper, spread the truth

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/yuijeans/status/1848504515647180992

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241021 yuijeans Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/yuijeans/status/1848504515647180992
HYBE has become highly skilled at leveraging major legacy media to craft a narrative in their favor. While the news they release may appear positive at first glance, it often includes subtle phrasing that subtly influences how we view the subject. For example, instead of saying,

241021 newjeans_loop Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeans_loop/status/1848503621991993709
Rita Ora ;
I Love these girls to much I had the best time with them in Tokyo…❤️

#뉴진스 #NewJeans

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/Chijrooo/status/1848505102803603662

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241021 Chijrooo Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Chijrooo/status/1848505102803603662
“아티스트 정산 금액 줄어들 수도”…하이브IM, 어도어와 거래로 매출 부풀리기 의혹
https://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=15558057

"하이브IM과 어도어는 올해 3분기에 양사 간 42억 원의 내부거래가 발생했다고 지난 9월 말 공시한 것으로 알려졌다. 하이브IM은 어도어로부터 41억 원의 매출을 가져갔지만, 어도어가

[copper current]

you can read this for material, she/he has more parts but you can find more in her/his account: https://x.com/yuijeans/status/1848403048307249595

Yui (@yuijeans) on X

The Story Behind NewJeans' Creation - Final Part

Twitter · Oct 21, 2024, 4:36 PM

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1848537358444204517

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241022 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1848537358444204517
"Artist Payment May Decrease"... HYBE IM Faces Allegations of Inflating Sales Through Transactions with Ador
https://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=15558057
Top Star News Reporter, Seo Seung-ah

HYBE is facing allegations of inflating sales in its new business sector through internal transactions

[vapid turret]

Dear god, maybe MHJ can use this as evidence in a countersuit.

[waxen musk]

I've been reading yuijeans "The Story Behind NewJeans' Creation" (summary of what MHJ said in her first press conference) to refresh myself of what happened at the start. It's kind of recontextualised what I've been thinking recently and reminded me of what MHJ wanted. So now I'm even more unsure about how MHJ will progress after this. I've never been so unsure.

I don't see her leaving NewJeans alone at Hybe. I don't see her creating her own label if she has a chance. I don't see her putting up with working at Hybe without demanding change. This leaves me wondering what the hell she will settle with. Surely her opinions have changed since that first press conference.

I've read so many opinions and predictions for what is coming up very soon, it's so clear that nobody can agree on any one potential future more than others. We cannot predict the future.

[copper current]

Just go with the flow, whatever comes, we will deal with it, don't think too much

[waxen musk]

"My focus is clear: I am going to do what I set out to do with NewJeans, regardless of the corporate structure around me."

[waxen musk]

Considering I've been thinking about this pretty much daily for six months straight, I'll just have to say "ha ha" to that.

[jolly junco]

IMO maybe its because if she leaves HYBE they wont let her work in the industry anymore, just like when SM had a dispute with their artist (JYJ and Jessica)

she knows that HYBE has that power to make it happen, so she fight with all she have to stay in HYBE to make her dreams and newjeans come true

she's a perfectionist, so i think she wants to see her blueprint to come to live

she have nothing to lose atp, if HYBE wins then she's done for

[twin cypress]

Not really cause then she can sue for her own freedom and breach of trust. This whole injunction thing is a different case of her wanting to stay but if it fails then she is gonna sue for freedom and the money she is owed

[sage pilot]

They can’t really do that. For artists and creatives, it’s a different situation. For artists like JYJ and Jessica, as SM (or any other entertainment agency) you can influence/bribe media to restrict your former artists from showing up anywhere. That’s what they did to Jessica. But with MHJ, if she didn’t sigh a non-compete with them (it was a clause in her previous contract), they can’t legally do that. HYBE can try to smear her character, but they’ve been trying for 6 months with no luck. The majority of ppl are still on her side. Also, the investors will always follow her for her talent

[twin cypress]

Wasn’t one of the main reasons hybe took this route is that they owed her a lot of money and they couldn’t afford to pay her

[sage pilot]

HYBE has signed a 3 year non-compete with LSM and he’s coming back right on the dot lol But in China though

[sage pilot]

I mean, it’s maybe one of the reasons, but it’s not the main one. Even MHJ said so in her magazine interview. The main reason is she didn’t want to be their puppet, basically

[twin cypress]

I get what your trying to say but that doesn’t make sense cause I was asking about hybes side not mhj’s side

[sage pilot]

It’s not only MHJ’s side though. It’s how HYBE operates. They don’t see their label executives as independent CEOs, HYBE PR guy said it himself in the leaked phone interview. HYBE’s side is simple, really. It’s “We don’t like her, she doesn’t obey us, let’s get rid of her ASAP”

And as i understand, they didn’t owe her money right now if she didn’t wanted to go away. And she didn’t, bc it’s still like 5 more years NJ has on their contracts with HYBE

[twin cypress]

She had a 75 million put option that she could’ve cashed out if they didn’t force her out

https://m.entertain.naver.com/ranking/article/477/0000509161

Hybe of course didn’t like her cause she kept newjeans away from them, didn’t consistently make newjeans drop music, and didn’t want illit to copy their identity but that put option probably pushed them over the edge cause hybe is struggling for money ie the reason why they are stealing money from ador to pay that failing gaming company

[sage pilot]

Yeah, but that’s the thing though. She could’ve, but she didn’t. I’m not arguing that the put options were not a reason for this, I’m just saying it wasn’t a main one. It’s more like an excuse. Like, “let’s kick her out now bc we will owe her more money in the future”

[twin cypress]

She couldn’t touch that put option until like Jan 2025 so they definitely planned this out along with the other issues they had with her to kick her out

[steep torrent]

https://x.com/newjeansstrm/status/1848571844154298817?s=46

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

@juantokki 😂😂😂

Twitter · Oct 22, 2024, 3:47 AM

can they actually do anything?

[cosmic belfry]

We hire a Tiktok witch

[jolly junco]

Should be. Remember the lawsuit jang wonyoung file for some youtuber? I think there is hope

At least if they can get rid of seoulite and mexjeans, tokkis would throw a party

[short laurel]

Allegations, so she can't, need full proof n external audit needs to be done be4 anything can happen.

[marsh sorrel]

~t
https://x.com/NJ_Fact/status/1848593047791276059?t=d6aTgUbxnMI1Dbyq1SJboA&s=19

[narrow seal]

241022 NJ_Fact Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJ_Fact/status/1848593047791276059
See you at the police station!

[jolly junco]

amen

[stiff prairie]

is this the record time for hybe not doing any active media play?

[hoary frost]

lol i think its bcuz their head of pr is attending the NA they know anything they say will only backfire

[shy schooner]

They will be back with media play soon

[steel depot]

very good!

[cerulean lake]

i wish they can go after sniper

that acc is even worse than mexjeans

[red thorn]

Lee jin ho dude too I wish
https://x.com/juantokki/status/1848601118986887406

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

Seoul Arts Center

"The content you inquired about took some time as we were waiting for a response from the relevant exhibition organizers. Below is the official response from the Seoul Newspaper team regarding the exhibition.

Hello,

This is the 120th Anniversary Project

Twitter · Oct 22, 2024, 5:43 AM

[jolly junco]

whats the context for this?

[red thorn]

About the rumour that NJ Munch exhibition content was a back advertisement

[jolly junco]

girls cant go to museum in peace

[modern fog]

free newjeans

[mild mist]

If the court rules in her favour she should do this

[valid sierra]

https://theqoo.net/hot/3453127298

oof, i hope they audit the whole company

[short laurel]

It's funny, be4 she not had any reason to use her put option quickly as she wants to manage nj for full 7 years.
Now hybe gave her perfect reason to use her put option xD

[short laurel]

Iirc employees were arrested for this.

[red thorn]

Rumour one of them is bts/lsf creative director

[short laurel]

Ooh.

[mild mist]

I love insider trading, it's my favourite financial crime

(because it's one of the only ones I understand)

[unborn jewel]

im reading it too

not saying ive doubted her, but her story makes sense
i see no other explanation for the chronology of events other than what she said

its actually so upsetting and sad

[hoary frost]

yeah, that (in)famous Nu Kim

[orchid field]

good ol mediaplay mondays

[vapid turret]

Still I didn't mean right away I only meant maybe down the line if more evidence emerges.

[wind monolith]

The calm before the storm

[steel depot]

hi guys what's the schedule for oct 24?

[jolly junco]

HYBE COO NA audit

[steel depot]

thanks

[stiff prairie]

Everytime someone posts here I just pray to god and click on the thread hoping it's not a bad news this time

Hybe gotta pay me for my emotional distress 😮‍💨

[jolly junco]

hahahha dont worry, we will win in the end

[stiff prairie]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[ocean arch]

~t
https://x.com/Koreaboo/status/1848991513822564703?t=Rt5jMsg4CdSMGizo4bRWGw&s=19

[narrow seal]

241023 Koreaboo Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Koreaboo/status/1848991513822564703
Malicious YouTuber Sojang Faces 4 Years Imprisonment And More
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/malicious-youtuber-sojang-faces-4-years-imprisonment/?cb=HpwV5A

[ocean arch]

I hope some anti accounts see this and behave themselves

[placid rose]

i hope ksniper and jinjins will face life imprisonment

[orchid field]

i hope they get some jail term

maybe not life sentence but significant damage for all the harm they have done (which is a lot of harm lol)

[waxen musk]

https://x.com/kumachan982/status/1849036482604052890

Kuma🧢🐰💙🩷💛💚💜 (@kumachan982) on X

Sejong filed an application to amend the injunction request today, possibly to address the judge's previous concerns and HYBE's attempt to appoint MHJ as the internal director to bypass the injunction. The amended request may refine the injunction scope or add new claims.🤔🤔🤔🤔

Twitter · Oct 23, 2024, 10:33 AM

https://x.com/kumachan982/status/1849039758179344530

Kuma🧢🐰💙🩷💛💚💜 (@kumachan982) on X

Refining legal requests enhances clarity and address court concerns, potentially accelerating court rulings while ensuring MHJ's rights are protected amid ongoing disputes with HYBE. Buy the addition of new content may also lead to objections from HYBE, thus delaying the results.

Twitter · Oct 23, 2024, 10:46 AM

"delaying the results"

[gleaming scarab]

[wheat raft]

this is such a huge win for kpop lol

its like misinformation and defamation finally has consequences

[valid sierra]

*x https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1849045849978134811
K Tokkis really out here exposing corrupt companies in kpop

[harsh dove]

@CakeDegg <t:1729681858:d>

[short laurel]

dam k-tokkies are serious with everything. never seen a fandom being so serious about rights and wrongs. Hopefully there's enough noise for corrupted government to finally be forced to take action against these corrupted companies.

[arctic swan]

soridata.com
https://soridata.com › why-brand-r...
K-Pop Daisuki - Why Brand Reputation Rankings are a FARSE - Soridata

https://soridata.com/articles/why-brand-reputation-rankings-are-a-farse.html?

Reddit https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularkpopopinions/comments/i7c1ui/fans_need_to_stop_citing_brand_reputation/&ved=2ahUKEwi127Tzv6SJAxXh6TQHHWcNJDUQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3sl7AjwaOkdMFz68uDtC8U

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/newjeansnews_/status/1849072110305726526

[narrow seal]

241023 newjeansnews_ Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newjeansnews_/status/1849072110305726526
[theqoo - hot] It has been revealed and confirmed with evidence that NewJeans were purposely excluded from the Brand Reputation Rankings since the HYBE feud
https://shorturl.at/SpU3H

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1849135374800732644

[narrow seal]

241023 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1849135374800732644
winning the brand daesang but getting booted from the brand reputation list coz of an “internal discussion”… see what happens when y’all try to fraudulently cancel newjeans??? we just keep winning. 🏆

[half knot]

it's still a wonder to me that people take the brand reputation rankings seriously, they've been exposed as frauds and sued so many times, since they don't just do idol rankings, but everything rankings.

it's like pretending to be consumer reports but without any of the testing or any of the transparency
taking an arbitrary decision to remove NJ from the rankings since April is certainly something lol

[stiff prairie]

i hope there's an idol company ranking and they're at the bottom of the barrel there

[short laurel]

I doubt they are at bottom if that ranking exists, there are worse companies.

[copper jetty]

I'm surprised there isn't anything new that Hybe released this week or are they just preoccupied with the NA assembly and are keeping quiet?

Does anybody have schedule?? When will the injunction result be released?? This waiting is agony. 😭

[mild mist]

if I recall, it's "before the end of the month"
Friday is the deadline for submitting additional evidence, then the judge will make a decision

[flint stone]

Maybe because of that hybe didn't realise anything, they aren't that stupid to add more evidence against them

[hoary frost]

arent they announcing the results on 26th?

[mild mist]

doubt it, it's a saturday

[dusk skiff]

There needs to be a TLDR in this thread at the end of every day. My friends and I occasionally check this thread to figure out what's going on and we come back to 100+ messages sometimes.

[wind monolith]

When is the national assembly thing tdy?

[heady gate]

https://www.grkorea.com/sites/default/files/content/articles/files/korean_national_audit.pdf

[wind monolith]

No is is not tdy i just wanted to know the time

[waxen musk]

Where did the 26th come from for expected results because that's what everyone's been saying over and over again but the source linked in pins (#1231839760759263232 message) says by the end of the month.

[waxen musk]

Check pinned messages.

[steep torrent]

ohhh guessing people confused the deadline for evidence submission for the decision results

[waxen musk]

Evidence submission is 25th, not 26th.

[steep torrent]

I thought results would be out tomorrow too

[waxen musk]

I've been expecting evidence submission on Friday 25th (tomorrow now) and a result the day after on Saturday 26th.

But I did post something someone said yesterday about how the result could be delayed.

#1231839760759263232 message

Anyway all I want is a source for the 26th result, I don't know where that came from.

[steep torrent]

I think result will be on Monday

[waxen musk]

I'm so impatient.

[waxen musk]

This is all I've found so far: https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1844595368987697551

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

MHJ Injunction 2 to be decided on by the court by October 26th.

Twitter · Oct 11, 2024, 4:26 AM

[steep torrent]

here too
https://x.com/oattokki_/status/1845110428562526617?s=46

NewJeans never die (@Oattokki_) on X

Good morning Tokkville ☀️

Here are some key dates this Oct 🗓️

October 15th Hanni National Assembly

October 17th (fraud)Ador Shareholder meeting

October 24th Kim Tae-ho COO of Hybe/CEO of Belift labs at the National Assembly

October 26th 2nd injunction decision

Twitter · Oct 12, 2024, 2:33 PM

[waxen musk]

There's no source attached to that. (Unless it's the first comment, but then that doesn't say 26th.)

Anyway doesn't matter. Would be nice to know the specific date and not get our hopes up for one day only for us to have to wait up to five more days. That's torture.

[wind monolith]

for now im just looking forward to see both ceo get grilled tdy hopefully (hybe and belift)

[waxen musk]

I think it's one person, the COO of Hybe and CEO of Belift is one person. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[steep torrent]

I think it was a typo bc the article says 25 now

[wind monolith]

u right mb

[waxen musk]

The 25th that's referred to in this article is 25th September which is the two weeks after the girls' live stream on the 11th.

[steep torrent]

I dont think so

[waxen musk]

The New Jeans members who trust former CEO Min appeared on a live broadcast on the 11th and criticized HYBE, demanding that former CEO Min be reinstated by the 25th.
This is referring to what happened in September. There is no talk about 25th October in that specific article.

[steep torrent]

this one?

The court said, "Even though the agenda for the appointment of a representative has not been mentioned, the exercise of voting rights is vague." "We will close the hearing on the 25th of this month. We will make a decision as soon as possible."

[waxen musk]

No I thought we were both talking about this article: https://n.news.naver.com/article/003/0012812245?lfrom=twitter

Sorry lol we're just getting things confused. It should be way easier to find out where the 26th for injunction results day came from, but here we are lol.

Where did you get that article from anyway? I didn't see it linked above or inside any of those Twitter posts.

[steep torrent]

is this the link on the tweet? I click on it and it sends me to the this one
https://n.news.naver.com/article/366/0001023470?sid=102

[waxen musk]

This Tweet (#1231839760759263232 message) or this Tweet (#1231839760759263232 message )? Because no I don't see that article linked in either of those Twitter posts.

I feel like we're yapping so much just to clarify and stop confusion but we're getting more confused. Sorry everyone. (I want to delete everything so people don't come here and read a bunch of nothing.)

[steep torrent]

ok yea the screenshot cato is quoting is from this article. main tweet just linked a different one I guess

[waxen musk]

The screenshot shows a "26" but the article they link to doesn't.

[steep torrent]

yeah thats why I said it was a typo but they probably fixed it now I think

[waxen musk]

Maybe they updated the article and that's why we're all confused? I can't think of any other reason why we can't find a single source saying expect result on the 26th.

Alright everyone, don't expect anything on the 26th. Sorry for the bad news.

Thanks for trying to help figure this out chae.

[steep torrent]

yea reporter messed up. i wonder if they can put out their decision the same day 25th deadline, just want this to be over

[waxen musk]

I'll just expect "by the end of the month" and that's it. Shame we don't have a specific date like EVERYONE thought we did.

This is why it's important to check sources and not just spread info out there without knowing where it's from. (I'm part of the problem.)

[tardy smelt]

i've always said 26th or later for a reason

still hope we get news on the 26th, though unlikely

[tawdry vessel]

we're likely to get the result on 28th

[jolly junco]

when will HYBE COO get grilled at the NA? anyone know?

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1849250176893870092

[narrow seal]

241024 cato_o_o Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/cato_o_o/status/1849250176893870092
Article

October 24 2024

[National Assembly Audit] HYBE Fails to Pay 120 Million KRW in Waste Disposal Fees… Reports Annual Sales 1,000 Times Lower

…HYBE must pay the unpaid amount of 120 million KRW by the end of this month…

Link to follow

[dusk skiff]

Thanks chief 👍

[jolly junco]

https://www.youtube.com/live/ZMevmSrl8qM

HYBE COO will appear later, but i dont know the time

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/Nai_KiwiNWJNS/status/1849254740367929841

[narrow seal]

241024 Nai_KiwiNWJNS Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/Nai_KiwiNWJNS/status/1849254740367929841
National Assembly Audit has started so when Hybe comes up make sure yall write comments with accusations and shady stuff Hybe has done. Please make sure you stay tune on this

[steel depot]

is this the right link there's too many Livestream on the same channel. what time does it starts?

[wind monolith]

what r they talking about rn

i swear i heard newjeans

[harsh dove]

@newjeansnews_ <t:1729736275:d>

[theqoo - hot] It is confirmed that HYBE IM took 4.1 billion won of sales from the NewJeans X Battlegrounds collaboration from the production of ADOR-Krafton - Affecting a reduction in NewJeans' settlement amount
https://shorturl.at/BxAHj

[jolly junco]

its about the dispute between fifty2 and attrak

[heady gate]

120 million KRW = 86929.12 USD = 80593.40 Euro

[sage pilot]

Uncle Kapsoo is saying the injunction result will come out tomorrow ~t https://x.com/kapsoo/status/1849261311848288631?s=46

김갑수 Uncle Kapsoo (@kapsoo) on X

내일 10월 25일쯤 민희진 대표 복귀 법원 가처분 결과 모두가 주목하고 있는데,
출처도 불분명한 곳에서 조사로 뉴진스, 민희진 을 깎아내려는 고도의 비열한 언론 플래이 순위 조사. 어디다가 개수작이야 이런 시베리아 들과 개저씨들아.
K pop 수준 떨어지게.

Twitter · Oct 24, 2024, 1:27 AM

[copper current]

Everyone, can you please all pray for NewJeans and the injunction. I am soo nervous

~t https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1849279982344011915

[narrow seal]

241024 PoppyKPoppie Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1849279982344011915
[updated] what do you mean hybe took 4.1B won from ador as payment for the battleground (PUBG) and newjeans collab? Hybe IM shouldn't even be receiving a penny from this but instead they're taking a chunk out of newjeans' revenue? help me understand this sorcery.

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1849281729569386520

[narrow seal]

241024 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1849281729569386520
HYBE is a liar and a thief. They hide behind their artists’ success but they’re nothing but frauds. Don’t make the excuse that it’s HYBE’s money because it’s not. Everyone with a working brain and a little bit of common sense would know that.

[sage pilot]

On one hand, I’m afraid to wake up tomorrow for whatever result we will be given. On the other hand, I need them to hurry up and release the result to free me from this torture lol

[heady gate]

don't wake up. 💀

[sage pilot]

I wish

[astral dust]

So how isn’t going with Hybe hearing today?

[heady gate]

I believe COO is supposed to attend the National Assembly

[copper current]

please write a lot of "good" comments for the COO

[heady gate]

There is only 1 comment. F them all

[twin cypress]

Exactly why I don’t think nj1 will drop cause the girls and producers won’t sign off on it dropping under fakeador

[astral dust]

Is it their turn yet?

[tawdry vessel]

i know unc is a tokki but is he a legit reporter?

[jolly junco]

not yet, maybe after lunch

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1849306358258266249

[narrow seal]

241024 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1849306358258266249
241024 Channel A News

[Subtitle News] Corporate Reputation Research Institute on NewJeans Question: "Involved in Social and Political News..." – Channel A
http://x.com/juantokki/status/1822092697001415023

Yesterday (23rd), the Korea Corporate Reputation Research Institute extracted the brand big data of

[astral dust]

It’s after lunch. Have yall heard anything?

[valid sierra]

if anything, itll probably be after stock market closes. so in about 3hrs

[tardy smelt]

wait until after 3:30pm

[orchid field]

hybe being dragged and i love to see it

[short laurel]

Idk the legality of other issues. But hybe is going to be grilled for this

[jolly junco]

but did hybe confirmed that the COO would come?

[short laurel]

They do not have enough money for fines. So he has to come

[stiff prairie]

they will take from ador revenue if they want to

[jolly junco]

its starting

[wind monolith]

what is bro yapping about

[jolly junco]

i think they are still about that olympic lightstick?

well i dont think HYBE COO will be here

[astral dust]

It’s after 3:30 in Korea now.

Any updates?

[jolly junco]

nothing

[astral dust]

T.T

[short laurel]

are people going to do what k tokkies asked us to do? about getting their attention of the issue?

[warm hedge]

so evidence deadline submission is 25th…am guessing they’ll need a few days to consider the evidence. So court decision next week sometime?

[jolly junco]

you need HYBE COO to be there

[short laurel]

what if he don't come. we won't be able to get their attention on the issue then

[jolly junco]

maybe Team Bunnies have to submit new proposal? i dont really know

[cerulean lake]

bro i thought he was required to go

if he has nothing to hide then he should go 😬

lame but what can i expect from them

[wind monolith]

maybe they have to finish this up then they will call him in idk

[jolly junco]

its already 4pm in korea, i think they have to wrap up today at 5?

[short laurel]

i hope instead of fine they'll give him jail time for failign to appear

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/bunnydanidang/status/1849344095283810739?s=46

Kim Taeho is there. Maybe it’s not his time to talk yet

당근모다니 (@bunnydanidang) on X

Hi T.H

Twitter · Oct 24, 2024, 6:56 AM

[tawdry vessel]

mhj and her team submitted evidence today and i am hearing the result will be tomorrow

[modern fog]

command first

[jolly junco]

how did you find him in the middle of all these ahjussi 🤣

[short laurel]

hybe this guy right

[jolly junco]

its him

[stiff prairie]

was there an agenda beforehand

like things related to hybe finances specifically or there's a chance for newjeans to be mentioned

since things like pressuring jounos, golfing and dispatch leaks etc wasn't brought up earlier

[short laurel]

going by chat i think they are talking about something related to SH ?

[jolly junco]

i think they are discussing things about weverse product

[short laurel]

yea i saw that. chat itself is stupid

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1849349966541787150

[narrow seal]

241024 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1849349966541787150
An internal report from HYBE, sexually demeaning underage idols from both other companies and their own, was exposed during the parliamentary audit.

[tardy smelt]

💀

[short laurel]

dam

[stiff prairie]

wow

can sb translate btw?

[unborn jewel]

i was bored so i told my mom the whole situation and now she is pro mhj 😁

[tardy smelt]

NA bringing the sauce

[stiff prairie]

good for her

[short laurel]

since it's NA no one can doubt the source. Hybe is dead

[jolly junco]

amen

[unborn jewel]

wait the audit was today
did it already happen i was drowning in homework

[short laurel]

ongoing

[unborn jewel]

oh damn

[wind monolith]

I heard newjeans once and that all i understood😄

[jolly junco]

that was shown a few minutes ago hahahah

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1849351164854489553

[narrow seal]

241024 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1849351164854489553
HYBE’s internal reports exposed:

“They debuted the members at an age when they were still in their awkward, unattractive phase, so none of them have the typical idol features… (the rest omitted).”

“Too much plastic surgery.”

“There’s a striking tendency to focus on appearance

[unborn jewel]

damnit i saw a link to it on twitter but it refreshed

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1849351006129422667

[narrow seal]

241024 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1849351006129422667
An internal slack messenger from HYBE mentioning "additional album quantities with return conditions" was revealed during the parliamentary audit. This can be proof of album sajaegi.

[wind monolith]

Hybe gotta be cooked now

[jolly junco]

they are dead 🤣 so many proof from NA

[unborn jewel]

found the link

[short laurel]

this confirms what MHJ said about sales

[knotty valve]

Bang gonna wake up in LA time and be like 😟

[wind monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-this-is-fine-dumpster-fire-everthing-is-fine-everything's-fine-gif-3293785927797514322

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1849351636336165361

[narrow seal]

241024 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1849351636336165361
(Left) NewJeans proposal
(Right) BELIFT LAB girl group proposal

[wind monolith]

Hybe stans rn

[unborn jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-cinema-homelander-cinema-gif-26650685

[tardy smelt]

nah, this is the juice

[stiff prairie]

red circles making me excited but i can't understand shii

[unborn jewel]

them watching the broadcast:

[short laurel]

quality too low. can't even use translation properly.

[tardy smelt]

i wasn't expecting much today, but we've got some nukes here

[tawdry vessel]

better if he doesn't wake up

[jolly junco]

the sajaegi accusation are up once again 🤣 RIP HYBE

[wind monolith]

Done?

[unborn jewel]

bro getting warned and timed out

[short laurel]

hey don't say that. best punishment for BSH is him seeing himself getting bashed by public. since he was after public attention

[unborn jewel]

this got deleted

[buoyant hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[narrow seal]

241024 NJBUBBLEGUM Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1849354926721528061
Deleted previous post because it is confusing which proposal is NJ one and other one. Anyway, someone plagiarized MHJ's proposal.

[hollow sorrel]

can anyone explain what do these proposals mention?

or how mhj’s one was plagiarized

[mild mist]

Stay classy hybe

[steep torrent]

red boxes are the same text maybe? i can't tell its blurry

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/newbunnies_401/status/1849352688959717436?s=46

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241024 newbunnies_401 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newbunnies_401/status/1849352688959717436
@NJBUBBLEGUM 화질 개선

[steep torrent]

waiting for a translation

[sage pilot]

better quality pic

[hollow sorrel]

I would guess the left one is ADOR’s

[short laurel]

can someoen scroll back and help me get clear pic of this?

[hollow sorrel]

because the right one looks like a HYBE update lmao

[red thorn]

https://fxtwitter.com/nwjns1st/status/1848758965318128083 sorry to say that nwjns1st is wrong, mixing are by different people

[short laurel]

ooh i m slow thank you

[steep torrent]

https://x.com/yoonsoung/status/1849355781893931424?s=46

P (@YOONSOUNG) on X

@NJBUBBLEGUM the one on the right is source music’s proposal. They initially pitched a different concept (most likely what LE SSERAFIM looks like now) but after looking at MHJ’s NJ concept proposal, they switched to the same vibe, which many suspect to be materialized by ILLIT.

Twitter · Oct 24, 2024, 7:42 AM

[sage pilot]

🙄

He can’t even deny this. Let’s see how their pathetic lawsuits will turn out 🤗

[wind monolith]

So now we wait till tmrw

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/nwjns1st/status/1849356067093778746?s=46

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241024 nwjns1st Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/nwjns1st/status/1849356067093778746
hybe‘s sins exposed today in 3 parts:

• insulting women as a company practice
• pollution through albums, faking sales numbers to not pay disposal fees for the garbage
• sajaegi (album sales inflation) tactics

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1849357118232805627?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

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241024 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1849357118232805627
HYBE communications has been revealed in the audit. These are album purchases under return conditions.

April 10th, 2023
Management Team

[11:34 AM] Regarding the album, UM is proceeding with imports through Weverse Company, but it seems that the additional 100,000 units will

[sage pilot]

So crazy to think that if HYBE wouldn’t pick a fight with MHJ, they could’ve gotten away with all of this and more

[jolly junco]

Sooooo many “returned” album

[tardy smelt]

to think ktokkis set this up, fandom built different

[short laurel]

tokkies were respected and not exploited like other kpop groups fandom for money. this is how they repay. tokkies one of best fandom really. (still have the usual kpop fandom problems though)

[jolly junco]

Lol yeah there is no “waste album” from newjeans, because we get what we wanted. We can chose, no need to gambling

[short laurel]

now all that saved money is being used to protect NJ >:D

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1849360930989289825?s=46&t=Rf0MFOpPEsPDO_zBu2aZ7A

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241024 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1849360930989289825
The blueprint

NewJeans Planning Document: Pages 73-74, 76, 79, 104

Reference Example 2
Tavi Gevinson
Key figure in the 2010s fashion blogger scene, actively utilizing the medium of 'blogs.' At such a young age, she evoked a sense of unity and relatability among her peers, while

[mild mist]

So if I've interpreted this correctly, shops will buy 50 000 albums because they think that's what they'll sell, but then hybe 'convinces' them to order another 50k, which they can return without fee?

[mild mist]

And I guess they just get thrown into landfill somewhere?

[sage pilot]

I guess and and on the streets too, 3rd screenshot here

[jolly junco]

😭 are they dumb? What the….. 🤦‍♀️

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/newbunnies_401/status/1849352058262126778?s=46

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241024 newbunnies_401 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/newbunnies_401/status/1849352058262126778
태호 국감 피피티 모음

[mild mist]

Yeah I remember the video of the seventeen albums in Tokyo, piled up at the side of the street with the photocards removed

Kinda like the Chinese milk nonsense from a few years ago

[tardy smelt]

contradicting himself in true BELIFT fashion

[mild mist]

Some of this s*** should be criminal

[steel depot]

classic belift move

[sage pilot]

literally what 😭 how can you deny doing smth and then say you will never do it again 😭

[ocean arch]

Is that the dude from belift?

[jolly junco]

I think he was in panic when the NA Member showing him the evidence

[jolly junco]

Left guy is the HYBE COO (bethief CEO)

[ocean arch]

I'm gonna riot if SNL Korea don't make a skit about this

Using his real name

[valid sierra]

what is the consequences for lying in the National Assembly?

[ocean arch]

I don't think it's a crime.but his credibility goes down the drain

[jolly junco]

Everything MHJ said at her 1st PC came out to be true EVERYTHING

[ocean arch]

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/nwjns1st/status/1849365119618191696?s=46

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241024 nwjns1st Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/nwjns1st/status/1849365119618191696
reminder that this was the new proposal.

their original proposal in 2020 was “main target is mixed & focused on men, growing narrative as a beautiful leader, follow the legacy gg‘s stance”

they rejected mhj‘s idea, only to propose it themselves a few months later.

[short laurel]

anyone got guts to check r/kpop

[wind monolith]

I checked jinjin bro is yapping and still being a dumbass saying “ik who got plastic surgery” like bitch we both know ur cappin

I pray on his downfall i want to get rid of him so badly

[tardy smelt]

oh yeah, i check that every time, not much noise, the few comments are pretty dismissive of the info

[short laurel]

ignore him. lets be honest here. everyone got minor touch up here and there. and nothing wrong with that. problem here is not who got it but how hybe's staff were judging trainees on thier looks.

[unborn jewel]

public embarrassment when inevitably cross-examined

[wintry rose]

when are the injunction results again?

[sage pilot]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1849368945230573898?s=46

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241024 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1849368945230573898
More details on HYBE’s internal reports exposed at the National Assembly audit:

“Talking about the Ministry of Culture, Sports, and Tourism and comforting people in that context is also meaningful. It was a moment to directly address the pain, and yet there’s a bit of nostalgia

[tardy smelt]

in the next few days

[wintry rose]

got it, thank you

[tawdry vessel]

tomorrow

[sage pilot]

probably tomorrow

[wintry rose]

thanks

[tawdry vessel]

probably afternoon kst time

[sage pilot]

HYBE is so obsessed with SM…

[jolly junco]

"While the group is gaining attention again, it will be difficult for them to surpass other teams because the other members are shockingly unattractive. It’s clear why this group hasn’t gained popularity until now. ——, however, looks somewhat like an idol, and her personality fits the idol image, which is why she’s been paired with everyone in the group and is treated like a princess. The company seems to have been pushing her toward acting.”

who are they talking about in here?

[tardy smelt]

a little dangerous to be guessing

[grizzled trellis]

hybe is so over

[buoyant hamlet]

For a while, fans defended the group’s poor live performances by saying, “The company isn’t letting the talented ones perform.” But this defense has crumbled, and now the issue of lip-syncing has become a problem again. In response, fans are quickly directing their frustration away from the group itself and toward other targets. SM’s fandom is particularly skilled at quickly shifting the focus of issues.

yikes

[stiff prairie]

wtf man

i was prepared to be surprised by what comes out but not enough it seems

[grizzled trellis]

wow

[short laurel]

"To protect the members, the company needs to take on the role of the villain."
but aren't the companies the villain already and everyoen knows it. 🤔

[stiff prairie]

they're taking on that role regardless

[jolly junco]

what a BS, they are so fast to take down every articles and videos about the exec staff but do nothing when its about the artist

[short laurel]

not taking, they already were and still are from start.

really curious which group they talking about

[wind monolith]

Is it a group in hybe or any company do we know that

[jolly junco]

yes this, please if anyone know who are they talking about?

i dont think its a group under HYBE?

[steel depot]

the point here is hybe is disgusting...

[steep torrent]

this is crazy if true
https://x.com/nwjns1/status/1849369939859149020?s=46

𓃺🌈☁️🫧 🪐🔚💗 (@nwjns1) on X

HYBE internal report exposed instructing the defamation of RIIZE members to protect TXT. Instructing to share picture of Sohee if TXT is called ugly and if Beomgyu is criticized for dance to criticise Anton…they are so disgusting. Protect artists from HYBE

Twitter · Oct 24, 2024, 8:38 AM

[tardy smelt]

💀

[jolly junco]

i dont understand anything from this tweet 🤣

[short laurel]

original post they translated deleted. so probably bs

people jsut assuming random idols and making up story

[stiff prairie]

This tbh

It's most probably a gg

[tardy smelt]

this is why i'm saying it's dangerous to guess, just take the information as it is

[short laurel]

some gg are being guessed in qrt here

[short laurel]

i agree but curiosity is cruel.