NJZ Updates and Discussion

[hoary frost]

she has 2 older sisters and 1 younger sister. idk which one passed away. i assume its one of the older

[neon igloo]

She continues to talk about this book and how the devil blinds

[jolly junco]

what book is this? title?

[neon igloo]

I didn't remember

[fierce cloak]

dang i thought she would be eldest child

[astral dust]

17k viewers

[hoary frost]

I made a bag for New Jeans' first album, remembering how I made a bag for my precious CD case when I was young to avoid scratches.

[sage pilot]

https://x.com/newbunnies_401/status/1839646665105678483

peacetokki핑 (@newbunnies_401) on X

미니진 추천도서

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 12:41 PM

[fierce cloak]

that's explain why it's soooo authentic and unique

[astral dust]

*x -c https://x.com/catzkang/status/1839647089057304948?s=46&t=kXGhBk_3DiP7ccDDKf8qcQ

av🫧 (@catzkang) on X

🧢 : When I had nothing... when I was a weakling... while working for the company that took me in, I had to figure out and develop on my own how to grill my boss.

Dang.. she didn’t filtered her mouth— dhhshdhsh 😭

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 12:43 PM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1839647089057304948 does not contain any media!

[astral dust]

“Grill my boss”???

[neon igloo]

She talks about her suspension. She's fine. She doesn't want to pretend to be a saint. She says he's got problems in his head. I'm doing the best I can. I don't want to say goodbye
(She talks so much, I translate what I can, sorry)

[astral dust]

Who’s “he?

[modern fog]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1839647303747223668?t=WEv0j7mlYJjxgQcDasvp2w&s=19

av🫧 (@catzkang) on X

Grill my boss = more likely how to win my boss

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 12:44 PM

[jolly junco]

she's totally a J person

[sage pilot]

it's okay, thank you for translating

[tawdry vessel]

bbq that mf

[neon igloo]

Now she talks about freelancing and why she didn't go there

[tawdry vessel]

[jolly junco]

is this before she joined SM?

[neon igloo]

I don`t know, she just talks about it right now

[fierce cloak]

i wonder if she can do some type of jobs now, as her shareholder contract still in effect? Plenty would want to hire this talented person 🥲

[hoary frost]

Courtesy is a mindset. Courtesy is not about showing external respect, but doing my job as well as I can. Even if my name is a little behind in the credits.
Humility is understanding and accepting my situation, not honorifics or formalities.

[dry atlas]

ok im falling asleep to her voice

[hoary frost]

min socrates

[neon igloo]

I think, What can I do now? For example, an advertiser acts as an advertiser. Everyone has their own role. I mean, even if you are a freelancer, working from home should be focused

[fierce cloak]

fr, ngl there are a lot of great lessons i can learn from this woman

[neon igloo]

Tells about the director! Okay, she's back to the freelance metaphor again...

[jolly junco]

even if her team prepared a script for her, i'm 100% sure she wont follow the script lol she yap to much with no direction

[waxen musk]

What team?

[fierce cloak]

she's cute loll

[sage pilot]

she's so emotional when she talks

[neon igloo]

She was in almost every team and saw the planning of the videos. But he showed her something different, something she hadn't seen before. She continues to talk about the director and his style, adding a bunch of different phrases

[fierce cloak]

damn surpass 17k views already

[fierce cloak]

she's an amazing leader

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1839646419646628234

[narrow seal]

240927 CakeDegg Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1839646419646628234
🧢 When I first joined SM, the company was basically a mess. I was considering leaving, but Lee Soo-man thought I was somewhat clever, so he let the visual team take my suggestions, and that’s why I ended up staying

[jolly junco]

damn she is really a narcissistic

[hoary frost]

Director Shin Woo-seok said that after working with New Jeans, he was contacted by almost every agency, but he collaborated with the New Jeans team because their direction and vision were aligned.
If you try to transplant other tasks, you will definitely be ranked second, so why do you want to take Ditto 2?

[jolly junco]

but she knows her worth, and thats rare for a woman

[astral dust]

She’s pretty here

[fierce cloak]

that's not narcissstic, that's self confident

[neon igloo]

She continues to talk about the director and brought up the chicken and egg metaphor, like which came first

[tawdry vessel]

otter might be mhj's #1 fan

[stoic heron]

i only understood newjeans lol

[upbeat stream]

That would be Dani

[hoary frost]

she is true tho. kpop concepts in current form did not exist back then, she basically changed k-pop and shaped it into current form

[acoustic valve]

I remember a Korean comment awhile back from the 1st presscon: "It's people like this that would've become revolutionary leaders back in the occupation era".

Sums it up; it requires a large amount of will and idealism to fight against the system from a position of powerlessness.

[hoary frost]

she has pride in her career and experience because her impact on kpop is on the same level as lee soo man's or jyp's

[fierce cloak]

i really respect her, i guess a lot of NJ fans are a bit young so they dont understand her experience as deep

[tawdry vessel]

[neon igloo]

she talks about composers and why songwriters are needed

[flat skiff]

Creative revolutionaries always having hard times

[fierce cloak]

yep, she single handed create what it's called "concept" nowadays
It's MHJ -> SM -> everyone else try to replicate SM

[jolly junco]

cant argue, she came from SM. SM was the one who change kpop

[waxen musk]

We Believe In Music

[short laurel]

so many industry changing work in SM are from her.

[neon igloo]

She made SM logo and made HYBE logo

[waxen musk]

Wait so "We Believe In Music" comes from her? Maybe she should change it to "I"

[fierce cloak]

people yapp about they want to fight agaisnt patriachy, they want girl boss, they want female empowerment, but they bash MHJ - which irony because she embodied what's true female empowerment, innovation and fight agaisnt the (partriachy) system is

[jolly junco]

yes she was that important for SM back in the day

[neon igloo]

She hopes she won't do anything technical because she loves creativity. That's what she wants. She doesn't know what people who make money think. Talks about business and gently touches on the topic of sexism within the framework of the boss's position

[fierce cloak]

mhj situation is very classic witch hunt and competent women (included NJ) being surpressed by men because they are better than men and wont obey the order

[hoary frost]

Hive's slogan, "We believe in music," was also created by Min Hee-jin because she wanted to inject soul into the company and was against forcing technology into culture.
The most frustrating part is when the dog owners take the work I've worked hard on all night and turn it into dog food.
Not all uncles are dogs ( ㅋ

[waxen musk]

Wow are those her words?

[neon igloo]

She talks about fan art and her ig stories

[jolly junco]

who is the dog she reffered to hahahah

[sage pilot]

what kills me is ppl don't even want to admit it or discuss it. even the 'she's a witch' narrative is deeply rooted in misogyny

[jolly junco]

public opinion will mostly be positive about MHJ after this talk

[fierce cloak]

it literally
People always desire to be more competent, powerful, and kind to others
MHJ capable of all that, yet they dismiss and attack her

I see MHJ as a very normal flawed person, and also very genuine and authentic with herself and creativity
She always have my respect

[neon igloo]

She said that you can't offend your fans. Talks about Instagram and its functionality, she explains why she posts fan art from bunnies in her stories

[waxen panther]

tbh u have to respect her for her creativity man even if you don't like her

[fierce cloak]

even the shamanism thingy too, it's just normal korean culture of spiritualism. I bet if someone in western culture go to church to talk to priest it wouldnt be considered as crazy

[sage pilot]

i mean, hybe has one of the most ancient powerful weapons at their side: misogyny, sexism. so it's not surprising at all. what was suprising for me is that the west is usually seen more progressive in their narratives, and yet the hate is coming for the western side

[ionic rain]

ppl expect her to be perfect to cope with her but she has flaws as everyone else

[jolly junco]

very normal believe in chinese root

[fierce cloak]

they don't understand the nuance of korean culture, which mhj has a lot of traits of typical middle age korean woman, which not really aligned with perception of international audience of what's a woman is

[acoustic valve]

I'll add that competent women are being suppressed by men and women. Patriarchy is so enduring because both men and women can uphold it unconsciously and it conversely oppresses both men and women in different ways. Although in this case it's probably quite conscious and personal on the part of the boys club within Hybe and unconscious on the part of the rabid kpop fandoms

[sage pilot]

yep, and as much as i understand, modern shamanism is kinda like astrology/taro cards. what's so bad in that lol

[fierce cloak]

and that's what makes her human and real, she speaks what she think, better than the snakes hide behind the co-op

[neon igloo]

She sees the whole situation now as some kind of test. She tries to control her mind, even if you are very upset, there is a reason for it and you have to go through it

[waxen panther]

this is truu, i mean there are ppl who believe in superstitions and stuff

[fierce cloak]

yeah fr, that fandom are mainly women who has mental health issue, attactment issue, have nothing good in their life, insecure, miserable, and jealous of any other women doing well - very common traits of bg fangirls

[jolly junco]

now i understand why Dani said that MHJ is a pitiful person

[fierce cloak]

yep she has the right mindset, that's why i trust she can overcome this

[hoary frost]

I share fan art with the members so we can all look at it together. To let them know that fans are doing this for them. It also gives the members a lot of strength.
New Jeans say that their favorite thing is performing on stage. The reason they can dance like they're riding a sledgehammer is because they like it so much.
Some of the kids can't even sleep properly after the performance. But there are members who sleep well for tomorrow's performance (I won't tell you who, but it's probably Kim Min-ji ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ).

[wind monolith]

We r so back

[waxen panther]

i rlly do hope there's an end to this whole thing im tired man

[sage pilot]

it's so upsetting to me as a woman to see how much female kpop stans indulges in misogyny rn... like ladies, you're hurting yourself at the end

[neon igloo]

Not many people have experimented with their lives. It's hard for people to bear. The legal costs were $23 million. You can't file a senseless lawsuit and fight it. I'm not rich at all. I'm going to sell my house because of the lawsuit. But I was grateful to you

[fierce cloak]

happy ending for me is hybe execs go to jail and hybe goes bankrupt
ofc mhj and nj are free and continue create and perform art they love

[hoary frost]

awful

[jolly junco]

whaaaat?? she's going to sell her house for all the lawsuit???

[neon igloo]

yes

[wind monolith]

Thats dedication

[hoary frost]

i doubt she has 23 million tbh

[fierce cloak]

i hope those haters suffer worse in their real life
oh well, being that miserable is already a punishment

[sage pilot]

oh my god

[vagrant marlin]

@strange venture

[hoary frost]

Min Hee Jin:
Oh shit, I have to win.

😭😭😭 woman is desperate

[sage pilot]

can i say smth about a someone who's got a mansion in LA........

[waxen musk]

Costs so far $23M, I'm sure it'll be way more in it were to continue for a long time. That's scary. And selling house to support that. She needs to win.

[fierce cloak]

wtf holy moly, that's more than NJ salary has in total
This means she has to fight for her stock share so she can pay for this

[jolly junco]

yes you WILL win

[waxen panther]

yea as a woman as well. i don't get these bg fans who are still doing this. either they probably didn't experience this or they just want to spew hate

[neon igloo]

I hope you won't have such situations in your life. But someone had to hit me. And I got hit. I came here since April 22, I don't understand what's going on. We didn't get along with him from the very beginning. I didn't understand from the very beginning, what is usurpation of power?

[fierce cloak]

pure insecurity, self hatred, and worshipping men

[jolly junco]

she said she wont spill anything today, but now she proceed to talk about it LOLLL

[neon igloo]

If you want to fix something, you have to go through it. I don't like it. But I have to go through it

[fierce cloak]

stay strong mhj, she must win

[hoary frost]

honestly what she is going thru since april is not normal and no human should experience it.

[sage pilot]

i want her and nj to win so desperately i'm about to go to shamans myself

[waxen panther]

like i know i didn't experience these things but reading stories and experiences from other ppl is enough for me to understand this kind of situation.

[jolly junco]

i feel like rather than global tokkis fundraising for trucks and wreaths, its better to give the money for all of this upcoming lawsuit

[waxen musk]

The simple fact they are fighting and believe in it themselves gives me all the hope I need.

[neon igloo]

Our lawyers told me from the beginning that they respect Min Hee Jin. I am very afraid of being humiliated, of being robbed. People there are just blinded. But there may be things that judges do not see. It will really take time, but it will work out and during that time you will be able to forget about all this. I think it will happen to me because I am a strange person

[hoary frost]

There needs to be someone to beat them up so that the people with money don't win, so the bill or whatever will change, so they've been getting beat up since April ㅠㅠ
But I will win, I cannot create a non-existent sin.
This is a truly extraordinary event and I will definitely film a documentary about it. Oh, it can happen like this - > to show ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

[sage pilot]

true, but i need them to win, too lol

[wheat raft]

idk how ~$7K would help with the lawsuit but the impact the wreaths and trucks made were pretty good for the amount

[neon igloo]

HYBE company loves to write gossip. So there are a lot of metaphors, I'm already waiting for its conclusion lol

[fierce cloak]

please make documentary mhj

[modern fog]

i love this chat rn

[waxen panther]

a documentary on this drama would be wild

[short laurel]

look at their change org post. so many women there. it's crazy

[neon igloo]

I just didn't know I was going to have to go through this. People don't get sick because they want to get sick. She starts to talk metaphors again

[waxen musk]

Hybe is a cancer

[sage pilot]

oh! netflix korea followed nj back in summer (?). maybe we'll get something (if we win)

[fierce cloak]

there are women lovers and there are women haters, sadly the world is just hating women so much

[neon igloo]

omg, she has such clever metaphors, BUT MY TRANSLATOR TRANSLATES THEM WEIRDLY, AND ENGLISH IS NOT MY NATIVE LANGUAGE, I'M GOING CRAZY

[waxen musk]

MHJ and NJ makes me love women more, as silly as that sounds (lack of nuance is what makes it sound silly)

[fierce cloak]

fr, everything about hybe and exec is just so vile, they need to go to jail

[stoic heron]

which translator are you using?

[acoustic valve]

I imagine she'd consider **third-party litigation funding ** if it comes down to it. There's a lot of money on the line and she has a strong case against Hybe. I'm sure there's a lot of deep pocketed investors looking for a quick pay day

[neon igloo]

She compares law and principles in K-pop

[hoary frost]

Min Hee Jin:
At first, the law firm said that I was really great and they respected me. Usually, since I was already out of the law school, I just gave up, but I was a homebody, so there was nothing ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
The members must be feeling wronged too, the members loved Adore and never once wanted to leave the company.

[steel depot]

hi guys just done with my movie... did i miss a lot?

[neon igloo]

I'll write to you later, it`s browser AI

[hoary frost]

Min Hee Jin:
I think there must be a reason for this. The production system I'm aiming for is really different from the existing production system.
I try to think that it's not too bad. They have to get hit to know what's wrong ( ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ )

[stoic heron]

ok tks

[neon igloo]

Let's just go and watch Min Hee Jin die. No, I'm not talking about suicide. I will never do that because I believe in God

[jolly junco]

yes i dont think she can handle all the lawsuit with her own money, thats A LOT

[fierce cloak]

ngl mhj should have establish her own business in the beginning, has full ownership rather than worked for hybe 😭

[stiff prairie]

damn how long has it been
wasn't she supposed to talk about her concepts. we in real talk already?

[waxen musk]

20 mins left on schedule

[modern fog]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1839655095849664528?t=H0IkczqtNIal4jSsg8f8pQ&s=19

av🫧 (@catzkang) on X

🧢 said that when she sees fanarts drawn by tokkis, she shows it immediately to the members, and the members look for it themselves too..

🧢 to the members: “You need to know what the fans do for you. The idols need to know.”

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 1:15 PM

[steel depot]

so mhj is the one spying us

[stiff prairie]

when did it start

[waxen musk]

1h20m ago

[waxen panther]

oh from the twts i saw from juantokki, looks like hybe is collapsing

[inland mural]

any news ?

[neon igloo]

She said something about HYBE but I didn't understand. She's talking about God again.
If this business changes, then I will have to change. About this job scam. I just wanted to start working, because there were many people willing to invest in my project

[steel depot]

hybe shoulve collapsed 4 months ago

love a christian team!

[gleaming scarab]

the members are also spying on us

[stiff prairie]

about this job scam??

[neon igloo]

Talks about how it is impossible to learn business in Korea through university courses

[steel depot]

lets go!!

[inland mural]

I think hybe will never collapse, yg didnt collapse after burning sun

[steel depot]

ahhhhh

[neon igloo]

I love learning with the NewJeans members. I was very focused on the purity of the NewJeans members when I created them

[sage pilot]

look at yg right now. they've lost all their power

[steel depot]

well it's not the agency's fault...

[short laurel]

management will change if the top brass are found guilty.

[rapid niche]

they really checked socmed. just like Hanni.

[steel depot]

yeah

[neon igloo]

I know idols whom I considered so disciplined with their prohibitions and restrictions. But then the whole world will turn into a doll. But it is too difficult for a teenager to cope with all these restrictions

[inland mural]

they created black label and its all the same I think

[inland mural]

I can't believe that bangpd will take this shot

[sage pilot]

the black label doesn't hold a candle to old yg

[jolly junco]

blacklabel has been there for years way back before burning sun

[neon igloo]

So they train so that they look natural. An idol is almost an athlete now because they train hard

[warm hedge]

It’s like that NYTimes article. MHJ really is trying to change the industry

[modern fog]

https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1839655186052288569?t=rXvN_ZmBOWNKg9Tsh7U-CA&s=19 not the backhanded compliment LMFAOOOO

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

🧢 I’ve posted a lot of fan arts on my IG, and they always make me emotional, even if they’re not great. It’s like when a 5 or 6-year-old draws their mom—no matter how monster-like it looks, you just can’t bring yourself to throw it away

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 1:15 PM

[short laurel]

best he'll go into hiding and if he messes up again in future someone else will take the blame. if he's found guilty

[sage pilot]

i want kpop CEOs to have this mindset only

[jolly junco]

she yap for more than an hour now, she really know how to talk nonstop

[acoustic valve]

Hanni's cousin comes to mind

[hoary frost]

Min Hee Jin:
Reason I got scammed by a job = I wanted to start quickly ( ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ ㅅㅂ
Other companies offered to send me abroad to study business administration and MBA, but I thought that I couldn't learn business administration from the entertainment industry.

[fierce cloak]

fr tho hahahaha

[waxen panther]

from this, u can see she values art more than anything

[inland mural]

true I forgot about that

[steel depot]

she's the best

[inland mural]

more like it

[fierce cloak]

ouch, poor her, really got scammed...

[hoary frost]

Min Hee Jin:
Traditional idols are too controlled, and it's not something teenagers can endure. It's so weird that they act like dolls, so if you say a few words, it becomes controversial. Idols are considered athletes, and they think they're pretty athletes, and they even look at their personalities.
I want to kill all the people who argue about that. It's too cruel.

[neon igloo]

Talks about training and training her mind. About how young idols train. Now she has moved on to a psychiatrist and the court again

[fierce cloak]

fr, she's so close to sm idols and that exactly who they were

[hollow sorrel]

Did she really say she will try to make a documentary about this?

[waxen musk]

It's actually crazy how I've never seen a single other person in the K-pop industry want this type of change and just continue such restrictions of young idols. (How can it be ONLY MHJ???)

[sage pilot]

YES. and yet she's the most hated ceo 🤡

[fierce cloak]

especially there were people she closed to now not here anymore, she knows exactly what happened to the idols mental health

[stiff prairie]

when?

[inland mural]

Do we have any significant news?

[neon igloo]

This is a group of fans. For example, you have a real fan, he has a light stick. And there is life, and there are slakers fans (sasaeng?)

[waxen panther]

sometimes u need to be hated to bring change

[inland mural]

I was kinda busy last few days

[modern fog]

https://x.com/virentis/status/1839654403222937917?t=4668_d5C7zCX8QPgbPEseA&s=19

커뉴 (@virentis) on X

민희진:
처맞아줄 사람이 있어야 돈만 있는 사람이 이기지 않게 법안이든 뭐든 바뀔 거라서 4월부터 처맞고 있다 ㅠㅠ
근데 내가 이길 거다, 없는 죄를 만들 수가 없음.
이건 진짜 희대의 사건이고 다큐를 꼭 찍을 거다. 아~ 이렇게도 맞을 수 있구나 ->를 보여주려고 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 1:12 PM

[fierce cloak]

she does what she says, that's what's most important

[hollow sorrel]

idk I saw it on twitter

[steel depot]

sorry for bothering u guys can i ask for the link? i cant find it anywhere

mhj's live link

[acoustic valve]

https://www.youtube.com/live/w-LZ9GJN12A

[steel depot]

thankyou thhank you

[orchid field]

Team bunnies mentioned

[waxen musk]

TEAM BUNNIES

[neon igloo]

She talks about luck and gratitude

[stoic heron]

[stiff prairie]

what she said

[placid rose]

🧢

[swift spire]

Wow how long has she been yapping

[waxen musk]

1.5h

[steel depot]

ahhh someone who knows gratitude

[hushed whale]

10 mins left

[swift spire]

Team bunnies awwww

[steel depot]

gratitude is very impotant

[fierce cloak]

please hyun dai let her yap more the stream is nearly 20k viewers now

[neon igloo]

We are real. I don't know how much longer we have to go through this. But we have bunnies. We often discuss this with the participants and their parents. Our bunnies are always with us. Sometimes there are reporters who help me

[fierce cloak]

yep, one of the best lesson she taught NJ members

[acoustic valve]

the korean team bunnies are the strongest warriors

[inland mural]

lol

[steel depot]

very thankful someone teaches our girls about gratitude and some spiritual stuff too... balances life

[waxen musk]

Probably not too many years

[steel depot]

we dont know we just have to trust the process

[modern fog]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1839656545455575264?t=zm_c9Cch5I-gwAlTvm5v1w&s=19

av🫧 (@catzkang) on X

🧢 Shibal, I have to win this.

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🙏

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 1:21 PM

[neon igloo]

Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity. I want to bow to you for giving me this opportunity. There is one heroine - an American drama, I feel a connection with the main character. I liked this drama so much, but I don't want to live my life like that. It's too painful. What kind of curse has befallen my life? In the end, the heroine has a happy ending. What kind of leadership can there be that protects their innocence?

[fierce cloak]

i guess now hybe/fakedor rejected mhj return, then we can expect NJ to take next step to sue hybe for breach of trust?

[waxen musk]

MHJ injunction before November starts is the next KNOWN step

[warm hedge]

wonder will MHJ do question time

[acoustic valve]

more likely than not imo. But there's a lot of things at play so we'll see

[hoary frost]

newjeans and parents know what Team Bunnies do

[neon igloo]

Oh, I represent a large organization. The gentlemen's system. It is a system. Employers use this system to make their work easier. The system does not contribute to the development of the individual. But many companies implement systems in their production processes

[sage pilot]

results about the second injunction will come out somewhere in october probably. so we'll just wait till then

[jolly junco]

i think they will wait to see the result of MHJ injuction

[neon igloo]

she just talks about the advantages and disadvantages of the system

[fierce cloak]

what would the injunction can do if she win this time as well?

[warm hedge]

is that injunction still happening? Thought HYBE had offered her to stay on, albeit not as ceo

[jolly junco]

she'll be back as ADOR CEO

[sage pilot]

mhj will be reinstalled as ceo

[fierce cloak]

yeah they want to exploit her as producer with toxic clause

[stiff prairie]

she will join as ceo and kick hybe's ass with newjeans' success

[wheat raft]

heejin ping

[jolly junco]

rejected

[neon igloo]

People swear loyalty. But this loyalty does not last long. If you feel something is wrong, it is always good to be an employer. If you do not like something, you can just leave

[fierce cloak]

seriously i hope team bunnies effort will bring great outcome and put those snake hybe execs to jail or something like that

i love how everyone in the audience are so focused on her talk, even i dont understand what she says also impressed by her

[neon igloo]

It's not easy for me to talk about our celebrities. I've hired a lot of employees. Some of them don't do their jobs. Gives an example of the law of conservation of mass (OMG SHE'S SO SMART)

[vagrant marlin]

I hope antis don’t use this as the wrong way LOL

[swift spire]

I hear director

[sage pilot]

the whole ador old team

[fierce cloak]

yeah mhj is a master of branding

[waxen musk]

Pineapple Pizza???????

[jolly junco]

what would hybe become without team ador..........

[warm shard]

she could say she had a ham sandwich for breakfast and they'd still spin it into her being evil. there's no winning with them, so it's pointless to worry

[neon igloo]

I want to try to create something new, I have been thinking about it since I was a child. I need to make this project successful. I need to be able to cope with changing participants. But the more you personally change players, you will know their characteristics better

[vagrant marlin]

True 😭

[swift spire]

Idk what shes saying but shes so articulate

[hoary frost]

she rebranded bighit into hybe. designed whole building as well in collab with architect firm, personally picked those wood materials and such

even made the best view floor for all employees instead of giving it to executives

[neon igloo]

I worked with only 5 people. I learned from them and trained them so that they could develop further. Keep a handful of good people and give them money. I never trust people for nothing

[sage pilot]

yes and yet hybe ppl still have the shame to be nasty to mhj, ador and nj

[hoary frost]

i know yemin kim is one of them

[fierce cloak]

huh suddenly the views jumped to more than 23k views, near 24k

and now it losing a lot of views too

[neon igloo]

I saw this system and I don't believe in it. That's why I chose a personal way of management. And even when you meet and talk to the members of NewJeans. I tried to break the ice between us from the very beginning. I wanted to have a good relationship with them

[swift spire]

Its past 1 minute now

[hoary frost]

her favorite drama is Homeland

[stoic heron]

she keeps yapping lol

[jolly junco]

that training room are so minimalist artistic, very nice and pleasing to the eyes

[fierce cloak]

lol i guess hyundai not gonna stop her and she keep yapping through midnight

[swift spire]

Yes let her yap

[tawdry vessel]

mhj is going after minji's 4 hour record

[fierce cloak]

20k viewers are like a stadium concert

[swift spire]

Omg she so cute lol 😭

[modern fog]

lol

[neon igloo]

She talks about interacting with the NewJeans members and about their time as trainees

[placid rose]

idk what she saying but that must be funny as hell

[modern fog]

she lost her train of thought

[fierce cloak]

huh views drop to 15k now?? What's happen with suddenly increase then losing views....

[swift spire]

Adhd kicking in

[fierce cloak]

it's her therapy segment

[swift spire]

The therapist: 👁️👄👁️

[modern fog]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1839661373695098923?t=buKlGEeqkTsTxjShx1Z3eg&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

🧢: The members, the parents, and I, all say that we absolutely must give back in a big way when all of this is over. The parents are so grateful to the Bunnies that they cried. Team Bunnies, although I don’t know you personally, I’m so, so grateful for how you appear like Hong

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 1:40 PM

[hoary frost]

Idols are so strict with the discipline that teenagers have to endure, and it’s so inconsistent that it’s bizarre. You have to have close experience with the actual members to understand this. It’s a different kind of stress than what you imagine from the outside.

The management method that protects the innocence of children was created by thinking about what kind of management method it is. Since it is not dealing with products, it has to be very delicate. It cannot be done smoothly with a large organization. You should not be deceived by the word system. The system is for maintenance, not development. It is not suitable for targeting people.

[placid rose]

im falling asleep

[short laurel]

so MHJ was the one who helped design entire buildig on Hybe. and what floor Ador get? half of 16. crazy. seriously shameless hybe

[rapid niche]

@hoary frost ssibal mentioned.

[neon igloo]

When I was a child and I was scared. Continues to talk about childhood

[hoary frost]

A system is something that simplifies and diagrams fields where the mechanism is clear (such as manufacturing or IT) and is therefore appropriate for handling. Since they did not trust the system, they took a different approach.

The way kids act at home and at work is bound to be different, but I wanted to help them overcome the mindset that they can't make mistakes at work and that if they do, they'll be in big trouble. I wanted to reassure them that it's okay to make mistakes. Letting them write lyrics was part of that. You have to try it first to find out if you're good at it or not.

[hoary frost]

What?

[quick wadi]

sseibal.

[rapid niche]

[sage pilot]

i think ador got 16th floor bc when mhj was designing hybe's building, there was no ador

[swift spire]

Aflor

[modern fog]

https://x.com/catzkang/status/1839661190534012942?t=EjzYzhseHiFizeO-RU64tA&s=19

av🫧 (@catzkang) on X

🧢 The legal fees have come to 2.3 billion won so far. I think I will have to sell my house, but I am really glad that I have a house to sell.

😭 girl don’t ever give up—

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 1:39 PM

[hoary frost]

At first, I thought I had to do an icebreaker with New Jeans, and since Mom accepts everything, whether she's acting up or making mistakes, I wanted to tell her that I'm a New Jeans mom. I wanted to make her realize, "Even if you do something wrong, I will never abandon you."

[neon igloo]

She wanted there to be no embarrassment between her and the NewJeans members

[short laurel]

they not have full floor to themselves is what i m saying. apparently it's shared.

[swift spire]

Not her lowkey flexing 😭

[hoary frost]

Ooooh live subbing

[placid rose]

ok that must be funny asf

[neon igloo]

The group members quarrel and make up. She talks about her experience of interacting with her boyfriend: about quarrels and breakups

[wet sluice]

huh what did i miss why is this channel open

[hoary frost]

who is live subbing? we are live google translating

[swift spire]

She has a boyfr???

[steel depot]

she's so refreshing... i see my boss in her very considerate

[neon igloo]

yees

[sage pilot]

2.3 billion won is $1.7M 😭 but mhj uses her own money, whereas hybe....

[swift spire]

Omg who 😭

[neon igloo]

Gaslighting has been a weird thing since April. It's over. I had to put it on the news

[quick wadi]

virentis is, for junnn it’s live subs lol

[fierce cloak]

okay 1.7M is a lot less than 23M, im relief, but still a huge amount of money

[wet sluice]

GUYS WHAT IS HAPPENING GIVE ME SOME CONTEXT IM CONFUSED

[hoary frost]

2.3b was 3 months of legal fees

[short laurel]

MHJ giving lecture at Hyundai

[waxen panther]

she's basically yapping in a good way lol

[swift spire]

https://www.youtube.com/live/w-LZ9GJN12A?si=oXZAZk1waGPutuea

[wet sluice]

oh okay

[steel depot]

dang... i wish someone will help her so she doesnt have to sell it

[wet sluice]

thanks guys

[neon igloo]

I always speak honestly. This industry is not so beautiful. There is a lot here, but I do not know all the details

[fierce cloak]

technically NJ members are wealthy and can lend her money, but i think she doesnt wanna be in debt of them, especially if themselves may have to sue hybe too, i guess

[warm shard]

i don't think she'd accept the money from them...

[swift spire]

Hyein mentioned

[strange venture]

she's not yet done? lol

[outer canopy]

Does she accept questions at the end?

[strange venture]

i thought it's only until 22:40

[hushed whale]

she gonna yap til midnight lol

[short laurel]

members are wealthy but not that wealthy. if they have to go against Hybe even they might not have enough money to fight

[fierce cloak]

luckily she's the last slot of the day so she can keep yapping haha

[strange venture]

lmao

[sage pilot]

"Today's TMI: Min Hee-jin's mother can swim the butterfly stroke." LMAO https://x.com/9u_mung/status/1839663142726447498

亡옴 (@9u_mung) on X

오늘의 TMI : 민희진의 모친은 버터플라이 영법의 수영이 가능하다.

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 1:47 PM

[neon igloo]

When celebrities get used to money from a young age, it's bad. So I don't know how much exactly we earn with all our parents. I was betting on Hyein at first. I explained to her that she needed to give the money to her mother while she was still so young

[swift spire]

[acoustic valve]

she can always resort to seeking investors for her battle against Hybe. It just means she will also have to share the rewards when she wins. It must be a lucrative battle to invest in considering the amount of money at stake

[swift spire]

When has she ever talked about her boyfriend tho why have i never known of this 😭 does anyone know who it is

[fierce cloak]

yeah her 18% stock potentially can worth a lot of money, i hope Sejong agree to take the payment after they win

[neon igloo]

yapping mode on

[strange venture]

tikkitokki mentioned

jk

[rapid niche]

[short laurel]

i think it's her 1st time sharing it. few months ago koreans were gossping why she's still single.

[steel depot]

let her spill the tea all night

[hoary frost]

apparently she is talking about gaslighting issue

[neon igloo]

She really talks about everything

[rapid niche]

wait, does she have a bf?

[swift spire]

Girlie rlly does have adhd

[strange venture]

[neon igloo]

ok, new topic - she's talking about business again

[sage pilot]

guys she yapped to police for 8 hours. buckle up, we just started

[opal zodiac]

im just glad we dont have to sub this

[fierce cloak]

hyundai will provide sub later?

[leaden pawn]

[swift spire]

Its just no one acts surprised abt this so i thought it must have been a thing for a while now 😭

[steel depot]

thankful she had a platform to talk... we neede it...

[short laurel]

sesh. i m buying hyundai car to thank them.

[waxen musk]

Everyone should be forced to listen to this but it's a lot to ask of people.

[outer canopy]

I'm not sure that's a lecture anymore, that's just her yapping endlessly 🤣 not that I mind

[tawdry vessel]

they were gossiping about love triangle that even also involved bang pd 🥶

[short laurel]

well she is 40+. it'd be sad if she never dated at her age.

[short laurel]

that theory lol

[outer canopy]

I'm gonna get rich and buy out NJ trust

[swift spire]

Now im curious who her bf might be

[fierce cloak]

sis just too busy to get married and have kids so she adopted NJ as her kids now

[grizzled summit]

newjeans is gonna disband? 😭

[waxen panther]

not with bang pd

[sage pilot]

it's a promotional event for hyundai credit cards. you need to buy them too

[hoary frost]

she is in love with her work. men are beneath her

[wind monolith]

I swear if i see the question again

[astral dust]

What?

[outer canopy]

Pretty sure they won't regardless of how the situation ends up

[short laurel]

sadly it's not avaliable in my country. hyundai presence here is only their car. which i own i20

[neon igloo]

She continues to talk about business and work, and about the last interview

[steel depot]

stop

[grizzled summit]

no i guess they are gonna sue hybe to terminate their contract because of that reporter

[swift spire]

[grizzled summit]

its soo inevitable and obvious that they're gonna do that

[fierce cloak]

i wonder if team bunnies would contact and work directly with mhj after this
MHJ-NJ-Bunnies would be strongest when united

[sage pilot]

let's go to korea then and buy hyundai credit cards

[warm shard]

i misunderstood this and thought you said you own 20 hyundai cars

[acoustic valve]

just occurred to me that entire Hybe building must be hate-watching this livestream as well

[opal zodiac]

oh im not sure, but im not going to commit to subbing something thats not a direct press con. if the whole lecture was about the girls and their journey then ofc we'd sub but that only makes up about 10-20% of this

[fierce cloak]

i hope there are people from team bunnies in this talkshow and directly keep contact with mhj after this

[grizzled summit]

im not sure bunnies would do that because most of us are teens um so but if that happened it'd be cool

[rapid niche]

also those fandoms.

[sage pilot]

bsh as we speak:

[swift spire]

I hear newjeans debut

[rapid niche]

[outer canopy]

I think that would be a bit risky so I don't think they'll sue like other people say.

[swift spire]

Omg what did she say that the crowd clapped for

[short laurel]

sponsor me xD

[grizzled summit]

idk cuz they really want mhj to be ceo (dgw i do too)

[fierce cloak]

K-team bunnies are grown up tho, they are professionals laywers, financer,...etc

[neon igloo]

She talks about the high achievements of NewJeans and that they have earned a lot of money. She says that with them she can achieve a lot

[grizzled summit]

ALSO WHERE ARE YALL ON YOUTUBE EVERYONE (cough cough.. armpits) are HATING ON NEWJEANS SO MUCH

[steel depot]

there are grown ups too

[upbeat stream]

With the way they showed support to her and her posting her publicly, I think there's two possibilities:

1. they are gonna sue
2. they are really confident in her winning injunction

[waxen panther]

most of bunnies are teens yes, but like y'know there's still adults who are fans as well

[grizzled summit]

ik there are grown ups too

[swift spire]

This looks so much like mhj’s standup comedy show rn

[sage pilot]

i would if i could haha let's work hard to buy hyundai cars and cards

[rapid niche]

focus on the live.

[hoary frost]

someone check on hybe employees on Blind. how they feeling

[fierce cloak]

it's mhj fanmeeting

[outer canopy]

It's not so much MHJ as the CEO that they want, they want the working conditions and the creative freedom they had before. If MHJ was kept as a producer but under a fair contract and Fake ADOR didn't fire some of the staff, pretty sure NJ wouldn't have been mad

[grizzled summit]

so you want our queens to get hate?

[grizzled summit]

yes im aware of that too

[rapid niche]

do not bring that in here.

[opal zodiac]

ok its turning into a press con now lmao

[grizzled summit]

uh is that against the rules or smth

[steel depot]

what are you even talking about??

[swift spire]

Is she gon cry lets bet

[drowsy crypt]

Stand up comedy Indonesia on kompas tv

[fierce cloak]

the problem is the current ceo is a snake works for hybe and doesnt understand anything about real kpop world

[grizzled summit]

um nvm just forge t it

[sage pilot]

she almost cried several times, but she tries hard not to lol

[swift spire]

We are not mocking

[tawdry vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/bang-pd-ugly-jealous-side-eye-sideeye-gif-15158415789308461941

[outer canopy]

Right they did try work with her. She's a hybe lapdog

[short laurel]

it's not just the new ceo but belift staff in ador too

[grizzled summit]

are ya talking abt mhj

[fierce cloak]

oh we just joke about she talkative, it's great to listen to her sharing her stories

[swift spire]

We’re hoping she could yap even more we’re enjoying it

[steel depot]

tbh it's annoying me

[sage pilot]

I CANTTT what's with his face

[grizzled summit]

isnt lee soo jaeng or some guy the new ceo

[neon igloo]

She says that a lot of people around her are suffering right now. For example, director Ditto. She found out about what happened when she was in Japan. She also said that there is a lot of gossip in the media right now

[waxen musk]

Can we keep it to translations it's getting messy in here.

[grizzled summit]

btw Do yall know that a reporter EXPOSED HYBE

[opal zodiac]

omg

[swift spire]

WHAT DID SHE SAY

[fierce cloak]

the audience are GREAT!

[stoic heron]

what happened

[hoary frost]

did she mention Munch?

[rapid niche]

translate..

[outer canopy]

Is the audience asking questions?

[fierce cloak]

i dont understand what happening but audience are amazinggg

[rapid niche]

kudasai.

[short laurel]

yea. it was funny xD

[opal zodiac]

she has a demo to play by FRNK, (but idk if she will)

[grizzled summit]

THE REPORTER SAID THAT HYBE TRIED TO DOWNPLAY NEWJEANS BY FALSE CLAIMING WRONG NUMBER OF SALES

[wind monolith]

We know

[steel depot]

i need the full translation right a way i wanna know what she say

[grizzled summit]

they said instead of over 1m sales only 70k sales or smth

[swift spire]

OMG

[neon igloo]

She mentioned Shin Woo Seok again

[light hornet]

[steel depot]

this cord is updated we all know it 🙂

[rapid niche]

new demo song?

[grizzled summit]

😭

[hoary frost]

Min Hee Jin:
Are you talking about separating management and production to me, who has achieved these results and raised the quality to this level? If I had known that, I wouldn't have come to this company. That person (Yuk Juice) also told me to "make an accident" ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ So I made an accident, so why are you doing this to me ( ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

I just spoke to Jeff Benjamin, he's really suffering. He's a good reporter, don't bother him.
I'm so sorry to Director Shin Woo-seok.
I feel so sorry towards reporter Jang Hyung-woo. I have no relationship with Kakao, so what if he can't get a new job because of me? (F*ck)
Also mentions Munch's back advertisement ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ T ㅋㅋ T ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ "What goes to Munch?"

[fierce cloak]

wtf her views now surpass 35k views

[steel depot]

tbh hahahah

[drowsy crypt]

Munchen

[sage pilot]

what's about munch ads?

[neon igloo]

She talks about how she's going to record the track. But she doesn't know if it'll be on the new album. She says that Hanni brought the pieces of the song right now

[swift spire]

She has yapped past 24 minutes

[grizzled summit]

WHAT ARE YALL TALKING ABOUT

[hoary frost]

context behind munch: dc gallery incels were spreading nonsense that nj did backdoor advertisement for Munch

[swift spire]

Omg mv mentioned

[fathom canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/live/w-LZ9GJN12A?si=mQZ_36un1Wmvg91T

[grizzled summit]

ty

[outer canopy]

what's a backdoor advertisement?

[fierce cloak]

huh livestream is 37k views now????

[sage pilot]

wait who/what is Munch

[steel depot]

omg take my money

[outer canopy]

cookie mentionned

[hoary frost]

remember when newjeans went to museum to see Munch exhibition

[grizzled summit]

btw you guys know Seoulite TV

[warm shard]

Ohhb Edvard Munch

[leaden pawn]

norwegian painter who died 80 years ago

[neon igloo]

She also mentioned that Hanni will be watching this life. She compares the situation to prayer and says that we (the fandom) are like our bread to her in a fragment of the Lord's Prayer

[quick wadi]

…amen?

[fierce cloak]

ngl im confused with her spiritual faith, if she follow christianity or korean traditional lmao

[neon igloo]

When she heard the demo version of Ditto, she knew it was what she needed. she talks about the mv and the deer.

[sage pilot]

yeah, but how is that a controvery then if they 'backdoor advertised' them?

[outer canopy]

her voice is calming

[waxen panther]

she's religious man

[waxen musk]

I'm surprised new topics are being brought up still but I'm all for it I want to learn about everything

[hoary frost]

yeah. it was organized by Seoul sports or something. incels were claiming that the reporter of Seoul Sports leaked recording of conversation with hybe pr because newjeans advertised Munch

[steel depot]

no one will forget ditto

[drowsy crypt]

I think nj1 adding demo version???

[acoustic valve]

Hybe trying to assassinate everyone even remotely connected to her

[swift spire]

Shes so confident in her talent and capabilities that she just knew what will be a hit

[sage pilot]

oh my god the mental gymnastics is at another level

[outer canopy]

why are people calling the upcoming album nj1 btw

[quick wadi]

1st album

[waxen musk]

1st full album for NJ, just easy shorthand

[waxen panther]

cuz it's their first full album i think

[short laurel]

there are christians who go to shaman. it's more of just local believe than religion.

[fierce cloak]

she's gifted and experienced with artistic sense, this woman is one of a kind

[neon igloo]

there are metaphors with a deer and her in the news, I don't quite understand. It` like newjeans amd mhj are deer, and they are kind and clean

[waxen musk]

OH FUCK

[fierce cloak]

yeah i guess she just follow whatever local experience she grow up with

[leaden pawn]

!!!!!!!!

[opal zodiac]

ahhhhhh

[outer canopy]

UH

[swift spire]

OMG

[fathom canopy]

?!?!

[drowsy crypt]

oh

[waxen panther]

oh done lol

[steel depot]

ahhhhhh

[vagrant marlin]

OMHY

[neon igloo]

[acoustic valve]

ohhh

[tawdry vessel]

mhj debut

[unborn jewel]

OMG leitmotiff

[light hornet]

wtf

[waxen musk]

literal chills

[wheat raft]

whats this

[limber willow]

someone summarize

[swift spire]

OMSHHSJSJS WHAT DEMO

[sage pilot]

damn she yapped for 2+ hours and only now she drank some water

[modern fog]

BOP

[outer canopy]

AY AY AY

[steel depot]

wait what???

[opal zodiac]

holy shit

[neon igloo]

She really hopes that the song will be released. This is a demo version

[swift spire]

THIS IS SO GOOD WHAT

[waxen panther]

that's a bop im ngl

[steel depot]

i love this already!!!!!!

[outer canopy]

Is this my birthday wth

[limber willow]

WHAT R YALL LISTENING TO

[sage pilot]

I LOVE THIS

[neon igloo]

I need this song

[waxen musk]

FRNK demo. I love it.

[wheat raft]

damnn

[waxen panther]

WAIT THIS IS SO GOOD?

[unborn jewel]

The beginning sounds like OMG

[limber willow]

WHERE.

[sage pilot]

SHE SAYS CONTINUE

[steel depot]

omg!!!!! ILOVEIT TTT

[drowsy crypt]

When MHJ unreleased instrument is started

[leaden pawn]

hahaha keep goiiiiing

[short laurel]

yea it sounded like OMG

[fierce cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/fadsfantasy-gif-22727800

[outer canopy]

ASCENDING HEAVEN RN

[fathom canopy]

RELEASE THIS

[neon igloo]

If I understood correctly, some parts of this song were created by Hanni

[waxen musk]

Stopppppp I can't handle a world where we MIGHT not get this

[modern fog]

SHE'LL DANCE?

[waxen panther]

[wheat raft]

tiktok tiktok tiktok ASAP SOUNDING

[unborn jewel]

This part

[swift spire]

THIS IS SO GOOOD ONFHDHSJAJJS

[limber willow]

im so lost

[neon igloo]

[unborn jewel]

Its a leitmotiff

[cunning pagoda]

what is that?this music

[steel depot]

you guys have to side on newjeans now like right now!!

[gleaming scarab]

i like the beat

[modern fog]

Choreo spoiler juseyo

[outer canopy]

shed probably leak the album herself if it can't be released 🤣

[drowsy crypt]

-howsweet

[tall dew]

https://imgur.com/y4l8kng

[tardy smelt]

what is that melody

[limber willow]

drop the link yall

[opal zodiac]

the concept of the topline was by hanni but might be fake news i cant remember correctly

[steel depot]

imagine mhj dance it xDD

[stoic heron]

LMAO

[hoary frost]

Min Hee Jin:
We were really popular, but there was a lot of talk among idol fandoms. I didn't even know if Cookie was a p word or something. I'm not a psycho ( ㅠㅠㅋㅋㅋ
I was so pissed off that I wanted to make an album to clear up misunderstandings, and when I heard the intro to Ditto, I thought it was about communicating with fans.

The reason why a deer appeared in Ditto - I thought that New Jeans looked like a deer, and fans liked it and approached them, but maybe that was scary and unfamiliar to us, so I thought of that image, and Director Shin Woo-seok created it with genius.

[swift spire]

Ok this is a whole damn song already

[waxen panther]

WAIT IM LOVING THIS ALREADY WTFFF

[fierce cloak]

she's bobbing her head rn lol

[sage pilot]

she gave us tmi she gave us tea she gave us music WE'RE PARTYING

[cunning pagoda]

wtf,amazing melody

[outer canopy]

IM SNEAKING INTO ADORS STUDIO RN

[waxen musk]

Reminds me of electronic music I really like from late 90s. It's almost completely appealing to my taste in a way that's making me feel things

[steel depot]

it's a diff genre but it's still newjeans signature!!

[pallid coyote]

New Song?

[fathom canopy]

Dang it Hybe

[neon igloo]

yes, she then also mentioned that Hanni watches this live, I think we understood correctly

[acoustic valve]

this is what hybe is taking from us

[steel depot]

dang this team is a genius

[modern fog]

fuck hybe

[hushed whale]

def from 250

[waxen musk]

It's from FRNK

[leaden pawn]

misquote

[stoic heron]

shes listening to the same song that we are?

[waxen panther]

and the fact that hybe is halting this release shoot man

[limber willow]

ditto?!

[outer canopy]

is someone timing this

[steel depot]

probably omg

[unborn arrow]

I NEED THAT

[waxen musk]

She said so

[unborn jewel]

It is definitely omg

[waxen panther]

[steel depot]

took my breath away bro!!!

[buoyant hamlet]

someone clip that beat lol

[glacial lark]

damn that was good

[waxen musk]

If we never get a full song from this I'm gonna murder someone

[swift spire]

Its giving music assignment uni presentation

[drowsy crypt]

That's instrumental is mixing of how sweet, omg, eta and etc

[sage pilot]

gonna loop that little clip with mhj bopping in background as i did with ETA.....

[fathom canopy]

That beat was right up my alley

[neon igloo]

This song is a bit long, isn't it too good? There is a music video for this song, that's true

[outer canopy]

when the beat switched up for the first time I was about to pull a death drop lowkey

eta remix vibes to me

[fierce cloak]

sis look cool af

[neon igloo]

I am proud of our music. I was glad to see you today. I like talking about this production. Thank you for your support. I am sorry that I cannot see you now with good results. I want your life to be happy.

[limber willow]

yap yap

[fierce cloak]

naww it's endeddd

[hushed whale]

byeeee

[drowsy crypt]

End

[wheat raft]

was a good session

[waxen musk]

I jsut imagined in my head the vocals for How Sweet overlayed onto the bgm, SOMEONE MAKE IT HAPPEN

[waxen panther]

aww man

[unborn arrow]

that was great

[limber willow]

ITS DONE???? i didnt get to hear any of em..

[stoic heron]

byee

[outer canopy]

how long was the song

[sage pilot]

i kinda wanted her to continue 😭

[light hornet]

thank youuuu

[buoyant hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-clap-clapping-clapping-gif-gif-13465728489229726846

[gleaming scarab]

nice ending with the music

[drowsy crypt]

-howsweet

[tall dew]

https://imgur.com/y4l8kng

[cunning pagoda]

Did anyone record that whole segment?

[short laurel]

YAP OVER

[rapid niche]

live done?

[quick wadi]

sssssseibal

[neon igloo]

and she also thanked hyundai too

[sage pilot]

pls give us more nj1 spoilers.......

[grizzled summit]

GUYS HOW DO I GO BACK TO THE SONG

[swift spire]

Cant believe she just leaked the whole song 😭

[astral dust]

No

[short laurel]

tim time to lock

[neon igloo]

bye-bye guys

[limber willow]

THAT WAS A NJ1 SPOILER???

[grizzled summit]

HOW TO GO BACK IN A LIVESTREAM AAAAAAAHHH I CANT

[astral dust]

Can we listen to the demo again?

[quick wadi]

don’t tell me what to do

[outer canopy]

Still shaking from listening to this heavenly beat

[marsh sorrel]

Gl

[waxen musk]

ok bye. my respect for her and newjeans is indescribable. that new demo was exactly the type of thing i NEEEED
bye everyone

[waxen panther]

that song was title track vibes eyyy

[warm shard]

just skip like a normal video

[short laurel]

ok timmy.

[vagrant marlin]

@neon igloo thank you so much for the translations

[rapid niche]

my favorite.

[waxen musk]

Oh god it's open again.

[jolly junco]

good

[waxen musk]

Lots of links not updated yet but this is the latest I might as well post here: https://x.com/juantokki/status/1843880621015478764

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

[Exclusive] NewJeans’ Mothers: "Belift Lab’s Statement is a Lie... Security Guard Said the CCTV Footage of Hanni Being Ignored was Deleted" (Interview)
https://t.co/7jDJVg1lvJ
By Reporter Jeon Hyung-hwa

"The statement from Belift Lab is so far from the truth that we requested

Twitter · Oct 9, 2024, 5:06 AM

[gleaming scarab]

[waxen musk]

I already spoke in the other channel so don't want to repeat myself.

[jolly junco]

i do hope that ilgan sports will never be swayed by HYBE golf invitation

[waxen musk]

All they're doing is giving the parents a voice. They aren't adding their own commentary. That's all any reporter should be doing anyway.

[pliant surge]

smelly corner

[jolly junco]

i know its a tempting offer, who doesnt like money

[waxen musk]

It's insane how the new fake CEO has done literally nothing for the girls.

[orchid field]

adding commentary are hybe's social media bots' job

[jolly junco]

lol bro she's not there for the girls, she is there to make sure that ADOR money goes to HYBE not a penny less

[orchid field]

its ridiculous, they pursuade mhj to join, she rebrands it into hybe for them, produces a wildly successful girl group for them and makes a bunch of money only for bsh to forcefully remove her and shift nj's hard earned money into subsediaries that bsh actually beneifts from

[grim hatch]

when was the last time this was open

[waxen musk]

27th September

[jolly junco]

did he really benefited from that gaming company?

[hoary frost]

lol injuction is in two days how long till the results comes out?

[heady gate]

omg, this sub is opened

[jolly junco]

the last injuction took 2 weeks to reach a ruling

is it going to be the end for NJ and MHJ if she lose the injuction this time?

[heady gate]

2 weeks later would be the same week of the Korea National Assembly Audit.

[jolly junco]

huh? i thought the NA audit is at 15th?

[waxen musk]

I've gotten to the point where I cannot envision them staying at Hybe even if they do win unless they seriously don't mind being sabotaged and bullied while they're doing their work.

[shut kelp]

whats the updated news now?

[waxen musk]

It was moved up from the 25th to the 15th.

[jolly junco]

i know, but it is not a smart move to pay the termination of contract that cost them billions

[heady gate]

great

[waxen musk]

There's so much stuff in the last week or two not posted here but this is the latest: #1231839760759263232 message

[orchid field]

Yes, 4 billion won was taken from ador and the end result was nearly 2 billion won going into hybe after passing through hybe im

[red thorn]

No usual mods to oversee this thread
So ig should refrain ourselves from being brain fart spewing furious words kek

[shy schooner]

Should be interesting this week

[orchid field]

i feel like it should be allowed because where else can we say things like this

[cerulean lake]

they wanna be a tech company so bad when they can’t even act like a proper entertainment company

[jolly junco]

@high totem please if something do happens, can you just timed out the person who make a mess rather than close the thread?

[heady gate]

4 billion won of merch sales, album sales, brand product campaigns. All earnings are gone.

[orchid field]

not to mentioned sabotaged merch production delays and closing up global pop up stores months earlier than scheduled, which has all gone unreported

they way the last comeback merch was all slapped with a 2 month preorder while some of the stuff like the bagpack that hasnt made it onto shelves

[jolly junco]

nah HYBE should consider themselves to rebrand into drama production company instead of "believing in music"

[heady gate]

"believing in drama"

[cerulean lake]

seriously hoping that someone important like a bts member threatens not to renew their contract again and leave 🙏🙏 so hybe can see how them stopping another source of cash effed them up

[shut kelp]

last time i read something was hybe deleted the footage of hanni

[waxen musk]

Yeah that was on Monday. What I posted is just an update on that.

[shut kelp]

but everything sounds so sus man if hybe some how wins....

[orchid field]

hybe mediaplay has been coming in on mondays every week without fail its already a pattern

[jolly junco]

i think this is almost impossible? afaik bts members each have a share of HYBE corp

[jolly junco]

they need the whole weekend to brainstorm a new lie

[cerulean lake]

i mean i think they can still leave but it was just a petty manifestation 😪

[shut kelp]

other than hannis birthday stuff, jasontheween and the streamers supporting newjeans is the only good thing that has happened the last couple weeks

[waxen musk]

Ah it makes me so sad that NewJeans only have each other and their parents in situations like this. MHJ wasn't involved.

[hoary frost]

if mhj wins she gets control on the final decision making from brands or events they can always outsource services like what they did with tokyo dome or the shakatak claims PR is the only problem but i believe anyone who has a brain can see thru hybe's intentions

[waxen musk]

It helps so much to see the girls still be able to enjoy themselves. It matters a lot.

[cosmic belfry]

Leaving isn't really an option unless Hybe has really burned the bridge.

[heady gate]

But the 4 billion Won transfer has outweighed all the good news this week.

[shut kelp]

i just hope we get more good news 🙏

[red thorn]

On the other hand, one side have it easy because they only just stating from the facts

[jolly junco]

MHJ cant do anything atp since she was denied access to everything?

[shut kelp]

ohhh what this mean?

[jolly junco]

lets just pray that MHJ will win this 2nd injuction, otherwise she'll be homeless

[hoary frost]

tbh theres nothing we can do abt it even tho it is completely illogical or immoral hybe still got that 80% but that just exposes them on how bad they are at their job

[cosmic belfry]

You prob have auto translate on

[waxen musk]

Oh yeah

[midnight zodiac]

can someone explain to me why it goes through the game company instead of through the parent company?

[orchid field]

To indirectly take money from ador and putting it in their own pockets, so to make it not obvious among other evil reasons, like what jeansta said is likely a reason as well

[shut kelp]

sounds like theyre trying to put ador in debt

[heady gate]

Any News on Hybe corp convertible bonds with Mirae Asset Securities?

[jolly junco]

unlikely, i think they will put ador as a leverage for mirae assets

[orchid field]

So vile and evil

[jolly junco]

ador are estimated for 2 trillion KRW in the future

[high totem]

yep
also you can ping me/mods if theres someone being stupid ^^

[heady gate]

Great, Hybe will transfer more money to the gaming division.

[jolly junco]

thank you! for being reasonable. We will help you keep an eye out

[orchid field]

Yes thank you @high totem

[hoary frost]

i think theyre putting it on their new virtual grp i saw they are debuting soon

[short laurel]

It's crazy how much they took as soon as mhj was kicked

[jolly junco]

how much does the CB hybe has to paid?

[short laurel]

Including previous rounds 800b won. 400b won from the current round alone

Hybe has only 40b won in cash.

[jolly junco]

LMAO

[short laurel]

N i realised Hybe brought Ithaca now hybe american for 1b usd which is 1.3t won.

[tired ingot]

not again this thread, what news?

[short laurel]

This thread is just updating news from the last 2 weeks

[jolly junco]

newjeans need to show mirae assets that they wont back down to HYBE order blindly, so they wont take ador as a leverage eventho they are estimated for 2 trillion KRW in the future

i do hope mirae assets wont help HYBE, its time for hybe to declare bankrupt

[short laurel]

Someone on twitter theorized that after hybe takes more money from ador, they'll reinstate mhj as ceo but leaving company with huge debt.
I think it could be one of the possibilities.

[short laurel]

Nj kinda did say that in their last live iirc

[orchid field]

And leave them to make more money to take away

[short laurel]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1843656368252956871?t=5fbRmyh_CIj_xtuZKpFcoQ&s=19

This n the post it qrted

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

HYBE Received ~4 Billion KRW from ADOR under the Pretext of Gaming Business after the Unilateral Dismissal of Min Hee-jin

From the May 21st to September 30th disclosures:
If we track the unilateral dismissal of Min Hee-jin on August 27th and summarize the relevant disclosures:

Twitter · Oct 8, 2024, 2:15 PM

[steel depot]

and do it again in the future? that's torture...

[stiff prairie]

They opened the thread finally?

[short laurel]

It's just someone's theory.

[steel depot]

im just gonna scan through all your convos here my brain can't do it anymore...

[stiff prairie]

Is there anything new that came up today?

[warm shard]

the mother's gave another interview?

[short laurel]

We discussed the things that came out last week n this week. Nothing new.

[red thorn]

https://theqoo.net/square/3428249222

[jolly junco]

nah MHJ is not gonna fall for their trap, she is too smart for that

[short laurel]

Yea ik.

Honestly. I hope girls can leave hybe without debt.
It's much better to start again than suffer under hybe for another 5 years. But I'd get hit hard if i said this anywhere outside this channel.

[stiff prairie]

When is mirae asset's payday

If they decide to go that route

[hoary frost]

tbh i feel like ppl should start adressing their anger to BSH and his lapdogs instead of hybe i think thats why ppl still supports the other side because of the groups under hybe which make it seems were like attacking their groups i think we need to start putting names and faces for the real villains in this story cuz tbh if BSH goes down and HYBE starts under a new management itll be beneficial for everyone

[short laurel]

Oo yea n bsh father has ALot of political connections, that's why hybe keeps getting away with poor work conditions.

[jolly junco]

my god... why is hybe croonies are everywhere

[stiff prairie]

But bsh is the father of the group w most viscous fandom to exist so it's basically the same thing

[short laurel]

That's what everyone is kinda trying to do, just bad actors gets involved everytime n out of context words start spreading among other fandom.
This is the whole reason why mhj is so hated among them.

[stiff prairie]

They don't care about context lmao

Look at the hanni thing. They know she didn't mention any group but did it matter in any way?

[short laurel]

Those fandoms do attack bsh for real though, they are even doing it now, but bad actors always there among big groups. If we look from all sides, it's just drama mongers hating (bunnies are included btw) , while the rest are actually supporting nj, unfortunately these drama makers are so loud that ppl can't c others.

[hoary frost]

tbh i dont think thats true all those twtter accounts with huge following like that denise and sugatheartist are hated by many armys too i think majority of them hates bsh and for example like instead of trending beliftapologizetonewjeans we should be replacing belift by the name of their ceo too i think calling them out by the company's name is what makes it possible for them to hide behind their artist

[short laurel]

There was attempt for bshout but very few participated. Less than 15 i think

[jolly junco]

because i think using names instead of the company can be sued for defamation?

[south vale]

oh it back

[stiff prairie]

I see your point

[short laurel]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1843840519694377213?t=wZJFD483MI74jjBOCVboMQ&s=19

???

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

The media play is ridiculous! Smh. What do you mean NewJeans thrives even without a ‘mom’? You mean they were nominated because of the work they put in before HYBE took over and started claiming everything the original ADOR has done?

HYBE and these media people really think we

Twitter · Oct 9, 2024, 2:26 AM

Media today crediting eta success to fake ceo???

[stiff prairie]

i don't think the chances are that high. i just saw a mhjout hashtag a while ago

[jolly junco]

jason gonna cry if he read this

[hoary frost]

companies still sues for defamation but atleast if we call out individual ppl they cant use the labels and idols hard earned money for their own lawsuits

[short laurel]

They can't sue thousands of people can they?

All they can do is threaten them like in the belift video comment section

[upbeat stream]

Ok so this is open I hope you guys are careful not to break any rules

[stiff prairie]

holy moly guacamole

[jolly junco]

this time we will only timed out the person who broke the rules, not close the thread

[stiff prairie]

power of golfing ig

[vapid bronze]

[warm shard]

so if the new CEO is refusing to do something about their artist being slandered and such, could MHJ raise issues about the new CEO not fulfilling her role? since it probably causes loses to the company

[short laurel]

We'll c that one in assembly. Gotta prove it there 1st. Since hybe denying nj complaints with deleted footage excuse

[jolly junco]

lol MHJ has enough lawsuit coming to her as it is, this time the parents are fighting too i see

[steel depot]

can they stop their nonsense already....

[stiff prairie]

i honestly think atp they have enough to say hybe breached the contract agreements and let them go free without any settlement money

[short laurel]

I hope so.

[stiff prairie]

i forgot how many things they even did besides footage deletion

[warm shard]

i don't mean a lawsuit, i mean using the fact that the new CEO is not fulfilling her role and causing Ador to have financial loses. since she still owns 18% of the company, she'd have to prove that the CEOs actions are bringing it loses

[stiff prairie]

leaking predebut videos, targeted media play against parents

[warm shard]

perhaps she could have a case that while she was the CEO, the company was prospering

[jolly junco]

she needs to win the injuction first to do this. because as of now hybe said that the shareholder agreement are terminated? eventho its not proven legally

[short laurel]

Maybe her lawyers will use that in upcoming injunction

[warm shard]

so she doesn't have the 18% anymore? i doubt it... it's a private company, hybe can't just do whatever they want with it... perhaps she'll use it in the upcoming injunction, right..

[hoary frost]

so the final dday is nov 1 huh i guess all we can do is wait for now

[jolly junco]

well hybe wont acknowledge the shareholder agreement since they said it was terminated (one sided). MHJ lawyer said it is not proven legally so i think they will bring that to the court

[short laurel]

since court already said MHJ didn't do anything to harm company, Hybe can't just remove her 18% shares. it will be a lengthy battle.

[mild mist]

I think they're arguing on the technicality that it was the board of directors who dismissed her, rather than the shareholders

[short laurel]

but does that removes her shares in the company without any valid reason ?

[neon igloo]

MHJ is going to court on 11 October, let's wait for that. But for now, it seems like there are more pluses of facts for the girls. If they receive official letters of refusal to defend and comment from ador, then they can use this to break the contract or testify against the new CEO

[short laurel]

girls did said they have alot more they can't share in public in there live.

[neon igloo]

I believe in justice. MHJ has already managed to win one lawsuit, I hope she will be able to repeat this success, so that she can officially get her position back and seriously think about separating from HYBE

[mild mist]

Who knows? Depends on the contract

[hoary frost]

@astral dust come quickly ur fav politician and political channel is open

[steep torrent]

*x -c https://x.com/hanbear_jns/status/1843887755232981337?s=46

[harsh dove]

@hanbear_jns <t:1728452073:d>

It's so ironic how they're the ones so quick to fire back at Dolphiners in endless back-and-forths just to protect themselves, but when it comes to the newjeans members, suddenly it's unnecessary and refused. WELL FUCK OFF 😭😭😭

[jolly junco]

lol i dont believe in "justice", but yes i hope everything goes in favor for newjeans

[novel fiber]

Can someone link what the update is? Its buried in chat now cant find

[red thorn]

https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1843924728861602192

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

ENG) Hello, this is Team Bunnies.

Tomorrow morning, we will file a criminal complaint at the Yongsan Police Station in Seoul against ADOR CEO Kim Joo-young (also HYBE CHRO), ADOR Vice President Lee Do-kyung (also HYBE IPX Vice President), HYBE CCO Park Tae-hee, and PR Director

Twitter · Oct 9, 2024, 8:01 AM

[astral dust]

What did i miss? Why is this chat open?

[tardy smelt]

parents' rebuttal to belift's rebuttal

[red thorn]

There's nj happy chat over there
And nj doom chat here
Duality of the nj channel heh

[orchid field]

all is balanced

[mild mist]

For me to post ace attorney memes when court starts

[short laurel]

i m curious how team bunnies are financing all this.

[wet sluice]

the thread is open?? it's time to bash the shit out of hybe

[jolly junco]

wohoooo way to go k-bunnies

[jolly junco]

they had a fundraising for all of these, last fundraising they bagged around 10m KRW

[steel depot]

ikr... they might be a team of wealthy professional bunnies

[short laurel]

10m won not enough.

[wet sluice]

"wealthy professional bunnies" is a crazy term 😭

[stiff prairie]

both are required tbh

[jolly junco]

they reach the goal 10m KRW in about 30mins since the donation opened, it shows how much people want to sue hybe

[short laurel]

ooh. then good

[jolly junco]

they will open a fundraising again if they need more i believe

[steel depot]

they even have lawyers from california

[wet sluice]

fr

[short laurel]

i often c ENHYPEN supporting bunnies. glad to c another fandom from hybe openly against hybe and belift.

[stiff prairie]

but keep it on the low low. esp w namedropping other groups in negative way. so the thread stays open for a while

[jolly junco]

yeah sane fans will realize that those company are a joke

[ionic rain]

not only hybe but belift too

[modern fog]

who opened the thread

[jolly junco]

nah i already propose to mods to timed out the person who did wrong and not close the thread because of it. We just need to help keep an eye out for those kind of user and report to mod

[wet sluice]

i dont do name drops, i think every groups are as innocent as they can be, i only hate the companies

[short laurel]

yea. i starting seeing them when they didnn't gave the boys break after tour.

[stiff prairie]

just for safety. i got a timeout when i did it during prev mod era ;-;

[jolly junco]

what is actually happened? i dont know much about other group under HYBE

[ionic rain]

I think with nj is clear bc most of other groups deal with bullying and pressure non-stop, but nj have a time where they had a optimal workplace

[short laurel]

bg's are on tour without break, lsfm got their 1st brek after 2 years of debut.

[jolly junco]

1st break after 2 years???

[short laurel]

be4 military bts were on tour for 5 years no breaks

[jolly junco]

not even for chuseok??

[wet sluice]

basically bgs have tour after tour after tour, no break

[short laurel]

well those are short breaks. i meant proper vacation time. like NJ get after every CB and they get to meet their families.

[wet sluice]

i mean they have some days off during the tour but generally, they are still on tour

[jolly junco]

wth how can they be okay with that

[short laurel]

we c bg idols complain about being tired and wanting to meet their families alot. even BTS members have made complaints alot.

[ionic rain]

they're not

[jolly junco]

lol thank god for OG Ador management

[wet sluice]

they complained a lot

[short laurel]

OG Ador is one of thhe best management u'll c in kpop.

[ionic rain]

and ofc it shows to their fans in their performance, it's just sad

[jolly junco]

i dont really follow other groups, so its my first time hearing all these

[wet sluice]

u don't see that many companies that care abt their groups as much as old ador

[ionic rain]

going to see your Idol just to see them to look so tired they can't even engage with the crowd properly

[short laurel]

worse part is this kind of stuff happens in all of kpop. except hyeb take it to another level.

[half knot]

I would not be surprised to know that most idols probably aren't big fans of their fans simply because of overexposure to them

[short laurel]

there have been idols who cursed at their fans. and got cancelled in the past

[jolly junco]

yeah they probably forced by the company to "interact" with fans

[half knot]

whether fancalls, fansigns, too many tours and concerts, too many performances, too many appearances, etc. some idols are really overworked and out there interacting with fans way too often through various formats

[stiff prairie]

that's why the audit and forcing hybe execs to appear was really important thing

but here we are

[ionic rain]

this is one of the things I think it's not praised enough, not only the girls but the whole staff of newjeans had a workplace so good when you look into kpop

[short laurel]

bsh dad has strong connection so he keeps getting away

[ionic rain]

thats bsh plan actually

[short laurel]

yea. i always try to mention it but it's mostly gets ignored

[half knot]

it is how HYBE has been operating since 2023, their idols are way overworked

[stiff prairie]

even if bsh himself couldn't be summoned other hybe exec's getting away scot free makes me mad

[short laurel]

they all are from korean gaming industry. industry known for being bad for everyone.

[jolly junco]

i get used to see newjeans with their family and going for some vacations or their stories about having some family time every chance they get

imagine my shock when you said some groups got their 1st break after 2 years of working

[mild mist]

Yeah, days off on tour really aren't days off

[short laurel]

when SVT were gettign multiple IV's during their tour. everyone just burshed it of by saying "getting i for work is common in korea"

[mild mist]

Perhaps someone, perhaps someone wearing a hat, realised that you get the best out of people when they are in a comfortable, supportive environment

[half knot]

on top of not having seen their families for years at a time during trainee period

[wet sluice]

u can read this for more information about ENHYPEN's situation https://www.reddit.com/r/kpopthoughts/comments/1f6wo9o/enhypens_new_tour_announcement_what_the_f/

[short laurel]

if u c mhj SM days. idols and staff praised her alot.

crazy thing is. tour brings the most profits in kpop. yet hybe not have enough case.

[steel depot]

they had like multiple tours a year like wtf? my poor jay... i hope he doesn't renew his contract after the first one expires...

[ionic rain]

I wonder what that people look like

[jolly junco]

LMAO this is insane

[half knot]

I wonder if HYBE will have its own 7 year curse, given they turned into the multilabel system in 2021 lol

[short laurel]

ENHYPEN situation since i-land survival show had been really horrible. i can't imagine how they endoring everything.

[half knot]

they're probably thinking "at least it's better than being totally nugu"

[short laurel]

u should look at i-land survival show. it was sooooo horrible. BSH was the producer.

[half knot]

I'm sure they're earning good money despite being overworked, it's just 7 years after all

[jolly junco]

are they tho?

[mild mist]

Most of these tours are horribly organised too
For example: some play in Mexico City, notorious for its altitude
Usually you would need 2-3 days to adjust, otherwise you'd be exhausted on stage
You very rarely see those 2-3 days of rest in a tour schedule

[half knot]

I don't think there's any examples of survival show groups renewing aside from Kep1er recently

and even less examples of "7 year contract" survival show groups, perhaps the sample size is too small to judge

[short laurel]

look at 50-50 keena. she said something about abuse being common in kpop so she just accepted it. that's why she returned to her company.

[steel depot]

should we stay on mhj vs bsh or is this #kpop-chat

[jolly junco]

no wonder MHJ wants to change kpop so bad

[short laurel]

it might seem offtopic but we trying to show how NJ and old Ador is different from kpop. cuz there are still alot of people who not realise just how good old ador was in kpop.

[half knot]

there's no changing such a system that is deeply rooted and is sort of a reflection of the overall society and its work ethics and attitudes

you can only tear it down, which is perhaps what MHJ is doing to HYBE lol

[jolly junco]

ok maybe changing the whole system is abit overated, i mean MHJ just dont want to follow those formula

[half knot]

yes her big interview months before NJ debut was very eye opening, the lady is a philosopher lol

[short laurel]

i feel like cuz of this. the people in power spread so much rumors about her that everyone hates her now.
cus there are sooo many others in kpop who did worse than what mhj is accused of but nvr get even 1% of the hate she gets.

[jolly junco]

i watched this interview, and i can see that she sees idol as human and not as a robot/doll you can play with

[neon igloo]

Unfortunately, as long as other artists remain silent about their health issues and grueling overwork, the changes will clearly be minimal. Actually, the starting point shouldn't be with companies or contracts but with the fans. Just remember the reaction to Minji’s mom’s interview. A huge number of crazy people were saying it was normal for her to live in terrible conditions and that this is how it’s supposed to be in K-pop. They kept adding that third-generation groups had it even worse. It's truly horrible that trainees from major companies live in the same conditions as their older colleagues, who have already brought in enormous profits for their companies, profits that could have been used to improve conditions for the trainees

[jolly junco]

lol would slap back to those "fans" and ask them "do you want to live in that condition?"

[short laurel]

artists are not silent. they complain all the time. every artists old and new complained alot. it's just falls under deaf ears.

even BTS members complaint. yet there are their fandom accounts that says they never complained. it's that serious. so yea starting point should be fans.

[neon igloo]

Haha, of course, none of them would live in that condition. But what made me the most angry was the constant bringing up of older groups, as if that was the price of their success. Not at all—now they have so many injuries that they've talked about multiple times in various interviews. I don’t want the new trainees to end up with the same injuries, it’s just awful. I can’t understand how people can make such comments about the interview. And I don’t get how fans can turn a blind eye to the cruel treatment of their own idols. Artists should be protected by law, not turned into puppets because of contracts, just because they want to achieve their dreams

[stiff prairie]

It's kinda ironic how newjeans already said these to us in OMG MV. Idols are to sing and dance when fans want them to, essentially becoming an iphone or Siri and lose their own self identity.

[short laurel]

this is the topic of the assembly on 15th. since idols are contract workers treat them as partners or give them same protection as employees.

[hoary frost]

For someone who claims they want to gain trust of the Newjeans girls. They are not helping at all. The new CEO is not helpful.

[jolly junco]

i cant wrap my head around this issue, people thrive for a better world but here "fans" want them to keep the same old treatment for every generation

[short laurel]

i remember Ailee interview where she complained about not having any energy just to maintain the extreme weight limit her company forced her to.

and that was long ago. yet there's no change in industry.

[jolly junco]

i dont think that issue will ever change, not just in korea because the whole world are about "outside beauty"

[short laurel]

thing is. they can lie about weight. like they lie about height. not like u can tell someones weight. as logn as they look healthy.

[jolly junco]

yes, you can have the same height and same weight but still look different. Its just all down to your bone and dna i think?

[short laurel]

idols having no control of their own bodies at all is soo bad. yet fandom still ignores it.

[ionic rain]

the only way to overcome this is to unite most of idols to expose the abuse them suffer and fight for better work conditions

since korea are looking to idols as workers of the companies

[south vale]

hybe greedy never enough

even bts not rushing like this

[hoary frost]

I wish either company can show us proof or emails of the back and forth of parents complaints in June. I’m so tired of the ramblings and back and forth.

[south vale]

what u expect about fake audor

[hoary frost]

I don’t even know anymore

[south vale]

they use illit like a shield to get sympathy from audiences

[wet sluice]

fr

[stiff prairie]

Using stans to spread hatred has been their go to method since the beginning of mhj feud

[ionic rain]

nah, I would say since early bts days

[short laurel]

it been method of all of kpop. but bighit took it to extreme.

parasocial in kpop was already extreme but with bighit and hybe it's extreme of the extreme.

how many things they took to extreme. 😭

[hoary frost]

This whole thing showed me that Hybe’s HR is incapable of solving such simple issues internally. No wonder Danielle said “What can we learn from you”. This Belift manager and not greeting/ignoring issue should have been solved a long time ago and moved on already. Now I feel it’s been dragged out. I can imagine the stress Hanni is feeling.

They have no problem solving skills whatsoever

[karmic thunder]

sup njcord

i didnt think this thread was so open LOL

[short laurel]

HR lead and now fake ador ceo. she too is from gaming industyr background. hybe leadership is filled with people who ruined korean gaming industry. the only skill they have is how to exploit and ruin things.

[steel depot]

fraudor ceo is hr specialist and doesn't do her role... such a fraud

[south vale]

umm can I asked? What did she do to gamming industry

[ionic rain]

actually shes doing exactly what they want

[short laurel]

no idea. all i remember is she was part of pubg company.

she was in high position though

it should be writen in the article about her becoming ceo

[hoary frost]

So where did you get that she ruined the gaming industry?

[valid sierra]

she is in C level role and doing all these. shouldnt the HR regulatory body make a move already?

[ionic rain]

in the game industry soft power is just as powerful as in entertainment industry, so you couldn't just talk shit or buy a fight without a good reason, otherwise they will make your life a nightmare, and even your complaints will be gaslighted and treated lightly so the outcome would not even be justified

[cerulean lake]

basically she sucks ass at her job

https://tenor.com/view/satbye-monkey-monkey-sunflower-seeds-meme-lol-gif-4446059951041700486

[short laurel]

ask korean gamers. they complained about all this for very long time. hybe leadership is those people. so i just put all of them together. i didn't specifically mean her. but the entire team of executive.

[south vale]

she move to hybe just because she got kicked out or invited?

[short laurel]

idk that much guys... all article said was she was from pubg company.

[south vale]

hmm that strange

[hoary frost]

Anyways…

[ionic rain]

krafton was focused on in-game exploitation to players spend a lot more

[cerulean lake]

i hope she appears at the audit

[ionic rain]

that's all I heard tho

[short laurel]

she has to. it's not optional for her.

[cerulean lake]

need to see how she responds w pressure

[ionic rain]

hybe said she would pay the fine

[jolly junco]

she doesnt have to

[cerulean lake]

hybe is clearly trying to use their connections to prevent escalating to audit

[jolly junco]

the law said if she failed to appear, she only need to pay around 10M to 50M KRW penalty

[cerulean lake]

well she was summoned as a witness and they have to go so…

[jolly junco]

so i think hybe decided to just pay it off

[midnight zodiac]

if she does show up, she's going to cry to get sympathy

[south vale]

lol

[cerulean lake]

if they’re not guilty of stuff they shouldn’t be afraid of letting her go 🤷‍♀️

[hoary frost]

Yes she does actually or she will face consequences

[ionic rain]

https://n.news.naver.com/article/449/0000287553?sid=103

[short laurel]

i c that just only makes her look more bad to public.

[neon igloo]

The development of the gaming industry is a pretty understandable goal for HYBE. It could be an expansion of their existing game like Rhythm, or the creation of similar new games. Mobile video games are extremely popular right now. However, it's very strange that they're drawing funds for this from just one company—ADOR

[cerulean lake]

the more they evade the more stupid they look

[jolly junco]

the "consequences" is the fine for 10millions KRW

[cerulean lake]

their rhythm hive game kinda sucks sorry not sorry 😞

[short laurel]

not really. they drawn it from all their subsidaries profit.

[jolly junco]

wait let me find you the articles

[hoary frost]

Really? I thought the Ador CEO was still attending?

[short laurel]

so many ways they inserted ads and monthly passes. each group has 2 monthly passes. saperate for each. it's soo bad.

[ionic rain]

it's the one I just sended

[cerulean lake]

it’s nasty how they have to rely on drawing off money from their entertainment sectors to put it into something they’re clearly not doing well with

[jolly junco]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1843564197017469331

there you go

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

[Subtitle News] HYBE on the National Assembly Audit: "Isn't it true that attendance is not mandatory?" / Channel A
https://t.co/Ty3SQ412ZT

On the 11th, NewJeans' Hanni held a YouTube live broadcast where she claimed that while waiting at the HYBE building, she greeted another

Twitter · Oct 8, 2024, 8:08 AM

so instead of getting grilled by the NA members, they prefer to pay off the fine to save themselves

[cerulean lake]

omg she should get the 5 year prison sentence 🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️

[jolly junco]

to me this scream "I AM GUILTY BUT YOU WONT GET ME"

[cerulean lake]

they’ll just look like they’re evading more

which shows they’re hiding smth

[jolly junco]

well HYBE dont care, atp i dont think they care about anything except win over MHJ and newjeans

[cerulean lake]

ugh so annoying i hope this company goes down fr and a whole bunch of artists leave 🙏🙇🏻‍♀️🙏🙇🏻‍♀️

[jolly junco]

amen

[hoary frost]

lol hybe’s executives are not technically from gaming companies but more so frm the game bootlegging industry they’re pro scammers makinf easy cash grabs

[neon igloo]

In any case, it makes no sense for ADOR to invest in mobile video games right now. The album and tour are on hold, so there’s no need for promotion through games. Where did this money go? How are they going to protect the girls while wasting their money like this? I hate this company

[cerulean lake]

then they can prosper into the tech company they want

[ionic rain]

I was thinking it would backlash on stocks so they should do something, but last week it start to go back up so I don't think it'll be a big problem for them as we expect

[hoary frost]

The National Assembly is happening on the 25th right? They still haven’t failed yet to appear. This one seems to be talking about a 2012 NA. And it just talks about how if they don’t appear, they pay. Correct me if I’m wrong but there hasn’t been a statement that says new CEO won’t attend right? That would mean Hanni won’t?

[short laurel]

i haven't taken any action against the hate girls getting.

[jolly junco]

they changed the hearing to 15th

[hoary frost]

Oh I see.

[short laurel]

kpop stocks were rising so they rised back up. + alot of buyback from hybe.

[hoary frost]

There is still time to see if they will fail or not.

[jolly junco]

there is a big chance the fraudor CEO wont appear

[short laurel]

ooh yea i forgot. hybe still have debt from when they tried ot buy SM

[hoary frost]

What about Hanni? Doesn’t that mean she also won’t go? Or she has a choice to go whether the CEO does or not?

[jolly junco]

hanni can decide if she wants to go or not, she is not mandatory to appear

[ionic rain]

and they'll have to pay 400bi krw to investors

[hoary frost]

Oh okay 👍

[short laurel]

total 700-800b from previous cb

[jolly junco]

hanni is a reference witness, so its not mandatory for her. But fraudor CEO is a key witness to this so she have to appear or pay the fine

[hoary frost]

Yeah

[ionic rain]

all the allegations were provided from 72 pages report bunnies sended, Hanni would confirm and detail if she go, but hybe need to refute everything they're accused

[hoary frost]

Hanni going may possibly shut this whole thing down. If she doesn’t go and defend herself, HYBE or the CEO might twist the truth and make the NA pointless.

[mild mist]

I thought she was going to provide a written statement via a lawyer?

[jolly junco]

no confirmation if she is attending or not

[short laurel]

6 days more then we'll know