NJZ Updates and Discussion

[cosmic belfry]

If what they're saying is accurate, they offered a different contract soon after the livestream.

[neon igloo]

I am pretty sure that the members require a written response with a signature

[acoustic valve]

Oh yeah, the reason they so hastily removed her and terminated her contract was definitely related to her put option which became available in November; earning her ~100 billion won instantly

[wintry rose]

hybe/fraudor denied newjeans' request

[opaque torrent]

ahhh perhaps

[heady gate]

I have been thinking, what if Hybe can't pay the 293B won to Mirae Asset on Nov 5. What are the possible outcomes?

[dry atlas]

oh good catch

[wind monolith]

Whats the chances of nj goingnlive

[dry atlas]

i didnt realize

[cinder verge]

bruh r we cooked

[acoustic valve]

MHJ still holds 18% shares in Ador btw; but these shares are worthless without a put option to force Hybe to buy

[unborn jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-collapse-building-gif-10499163

[stiff prairie]

they can do for mirae assets imo. what they can't is paying both mirae and mhj if she decided to sell her stocks too. hence all these shit being unfolded

[cosmic belfry]

I'm optimistic but it sucks things would be so different. Also who knows if she has job security.

[unborn jewel]

hybe stock^

[cosmic belfry]

NJ1, randomized photocards. 25 versions.

[neon igloo]

But didn't mhj go to court later after emergency life?

[short laurel]

emergency life

[wind monolith]

Is nj1 even gonna happen at this rate😭

[opaque torrent]

honestly with how messy and stupid hybe is, i bet newjeans has a good case to terminate their exclusive contract without a penalty

i would not compromise

[tardy smelt]

no, but she started another injunction process

[opaque torrent]

if newjeans and mhj show a united front and take the legal route, i bet more reporters would come forward too

[wintry rose]

they did also say they have more to talk about which they couldnt because of their contracts so maybe the have more stuff against hybe

[cosmic belfry]

Legally, they might not be able to reinstate her as CEO without admitting wrongdoing. They need the court case to confirm the Shareholder's agreement was wrongfully terminated.

[opaque torrent]

who the fuck goes to reporters to coerce and bribe them into writing negative stories about their artists? that is a breach of trust

[lucid yarrow]

if korea wasn't dealing with so much issue hybe would prob be target/gutted to plz the masses

[opaque torrent]

artists have won their injunctions for less

[neon igloo]

I turn on my waiting mode for applications from NewJeans or Min

[stiff prairie]

example? i don't know anything about legal kpop before nj

[opaque torrent]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1837344081149874419

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

In a landmark case, the Seoul Central District Court's 34th Civil Division (Presiding Judge Kim Jung-gon) ruled in favor of a celebrity, confirming the termination of their exclusive contract with the agency. This case marks the first time a court has publicly recognized the

Twitter · Sep 21, 2024, 4:12 AM

[acoustic valve]

imo u have too much faith in Korea and don't understand how much corporate cronyism has become normalized and therefore accepted over there. Doesn't mean people don't get mad, just doesn't mean it matters much. But I do hope Hybe has overreached this time because in the grand scale of things it's not really a very important company

[jolly junco]

i hope MHJ reject fraudor offer this time

unless fraudor give her full control over NJ production

[hoary frost]

Well if she rejects then what other options does she hav

Idk whr njs will get tat kinda fund to brk contract, i saw itll take crazy money

[stiff prairie]

they'll need money if they can't prove hybe breached contracts first

[true glacier]

reportedly $240m usd

[acoustic valve]

By suing Hybe for breaking contract clauses and therefore voiding their contract. Allowing the girls to terminate it with no penalties, maybe even demand reparations from Hybe instead. That's the logic anyway, and there's grounds for it

[jolly junco]

but what fraudor offer doesnt solved NJ bullying inside that building

[tardy smelt]

she might be fine with accepting it, it really depends on what the "specific conditions" turn out to be

[mild mist]

Pretty much everyone who was ever signed to TS entertainment, I'd imagine

[hoary frost]

Just my opinion but if that was an option they wld have. But dont curse me out guys im just like u a regular tokki who want the best for njs

[stiff prairie]

didn't know them so went to check out their wiki. they got legal issues section before artists section 😭

[opaque torrent]

https://www.law.go.kr/LSW//precInfoP.do?precSeq=209591 another one

[acoustic valve]

Suing a corporation with hundreds of millions of usd on the line is a big risk. Even if they thought it was likely they'd win there'd still be a lot of apprehension and thought that should happen before they decide to actually go ahead.

So personally, I don't think they would've done it already. They're exhausting all other options first before taking this plunge(if they need to).

[short laurel]

the live from 2 weeks ago can be seen as warning from nj for exactly this. if this compromise is not acceptable by NJ. they'll go to court. assuming they have proofs abotu mistreatment.

usually lawsuit is the last resort.

[opaque torrent]

i trust in shaman k sejong

[waxen musk]

The fact that I would love a compromise to allow MHJ to continue her work and Hybe could offer a proper compromise and yet they still can't be trusted is the most frustrating thing in the world.

[snow turtle]

yeah thats why im saying worst case scenario

[jolly junco]

bunnies have the biggest trust issue since april

[short laurel]

may*. in april bunnies were cursing mhj.

[lucid yarrow]

if they dropped all the case against MHJ and said it was all misunderstanding i can see her taking it but nah we prob wait for the injunction

[stiff prairie]

justified tho

[acoustic valve]

Look at the way they managed to screw over mhj and the girls even when she held a shareholder contract which by all means gives her far more control and power than whatever this producer contract would be. Unless they decided to suddenly write the most iron-caged and pro-worker contract to exist in the industry for the woman they hate more than anyone else... I personally just don't see this offer being good faith.

We will see...

[jolly junco]

anyway wont believe anything from fraudor announcement unless MHJ or newjeans said something about this offer

[wind monolith]

Imma just go curl up cry and sleep

[waxen musk]

I just hope they give her time to properly go back and forth over any compromised contract to make sure she doesn't get screwed and hope Hybe not give some insane short deadline.

Of course that's just an unrealistic wish by me though.

[stiff prairie]

bro hasn't seen hybe yet

[stiff prairie]

oh nvm then

[snow turtle]

haha not me

[waxen musk]

I'm coping lol. I don't expect much.

[snow turtle]

ride or die

[short laurel]

finix was smart then. while everyone ate up hybe mediaplay

[waxen musk]

I said shit I want to delete back then. (Too lazy to actually search my old messages and delete them though lol.)

[stiff prairie]

mhj was at her lowest support on first presser with all the false translations and stuff. since then it's kinda been only up for her

[bright goblet]

Btw has anyone translated this?
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003382030

[short laurel]

dw. pretty sure m ods ate up hybe mediaplay back then too.

[short laurel]

the 180 in public support after that presscon was really something

[stiff prairie]

this is prolly the pinned translation

[bright goblet]

Thanks bro

[short laurel]

"On the morning of September 11, Adore had already proposed to Director Min Hee-jin to take charge of New Jeans' production for the next five years. Five years is the entire remaining period of the contract with New Genes. "
this part is a lie. they only gave 2 months. not 5 years.

[dry atlas]

hahaha fuck mhj

[waxen musk]

Fuck her for creating NewJeans. If she didn't we wouldn't be going through this.
(mel what are you saying lol???)

[quick wadi]

let’s ALL wait for macoll consulting how about that

[hoary frost]

idk but im pretty thankful i got to hear ditto in my life

[quick wadi]

Ordering a ban on this person above me

[dry atlas]

guys i got a scoop

mhj statement today

didn't hear that from me

[waxen musk]

?

[quick wadi]

Mel shut up

[wet sluice]

so are we back or nah

[wind monolith]

Mel is not ok

[tardy smelt]

mel in mhj dms

[dry atlas]

if it's true give me nitro

[waxen musk]

I mean you could expect a statement that says wait for a proper statement. Does that count?

[hoary frost]

she is cooking essay

[tardy smelt]

i made it through the work day, suuurely, no other bombs will drop today, right?

[steel depot]

mel be our angel and say it's a favor on our side/newjeans side/mhj side

[lucid yarrow]

any secret 2nd NJ live?

[wind monolith]

….

[waxen musk]

I looked at the time of the day NJ went live. It was like 2 hours from now (2 weeks ago)

[hoary frost]

cant they just sell ador? they would repay their debt

[stiff prairie]

we ain't getting any lives chill out

[jade jolt]

But maybe they won t say anything today maybe they are waiting a bit more

[hushed whale]

i dont think NJ will make a statement any time soon lol

[waxen musk]

Just saying this to say any news can still come out at like 7PM KST. Not expected a live stream of course.

[jade jolt]

Same

[dry atlas]

told ya

[hoary frost]

newjeans will announce hybe downfall in 10 min

[short laurel]

MHJ response in ig story at night.

[steep sun]

Hope mhj doesnt come back and they leave hybe tbh

[hoary frost]

yasssss gimme essay

[wind monolith]

Eh

[stiff prairie]

full text pls

[bright goblet]

Where can I find it?

[dry atlas]

MHJ response
https://www.slist.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=582519

[wet sluice]

uhhhh

[bright goblet]

Thank you Mel

[wet sluice]

im having a laugh

[dry atlas]

hahaha

was gonna send that too

[wind monolith]

So we basically back to stage 1

[waxen musk]

So basically nothing has changed since 2 weeks ago.

[hoary frost]

i mean...we all knew hybe would never make sincere offer to her.

[lucid yarrow]

offer was never offer just thin air

[hoary frost]

yeah. its just empty talk and mediaplay for investors

[waxen musk]

Now wot? Wait until MHJ injunction thingy next month?

[quick wadi]

Sleep

Play newjeans

[snow turtle]

Cool

[quick wadi]

Repeat

[wet sluice]

sleep

[snow turtle]

I love stanning NewJeans

[sweet sparrow]

so we made no progress

[hoary frost]

when the most innocent nj fanaccs start swearing https://x.com/lovabldea/status/1838848961450512598?s=46&t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA

데아 (@lovablDea) on X

어떻게 회사란 것이 지랄로 시작해서 지랄을 51617절까지 하다가 지랄로 끝나지 ㅁㅊ지랄인간집단

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 7:52 AM

[snow turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

[heady gate]

*x -c https://x.com/newjiram/status/1838835348022968820

[harsh dove]

@newjiram <t:1727247485:d>

ADOR’s current board of directors said it was impossible to reinstate Min Heejin and that they sent an email to the NewJeans members today….

We’ll see how NewJeans responds soon

[stiff prairie]

on the pinned messages section. near the top bar there's a pin icon if you're on desktop, on mobile you have to tap on newjeans-chat and you'll see the icon

[acoustic valve]

spitting fire here

[waxen musk]

🔥 yep say it

[hoary frost]

hybe playbook 101: run to media to mediaplay before its actually done and achieved

[pallid basin]

Being bunnies is like living in an Inside Out movie

[waxen musk]

Good music at least (love inside out soundtrack lol)

[bright goblet]

Which channel? Sorry I'm confused

[wet sluice]

😭

[red thorn]

They will do it again and again as shin wooseok said
Hybe truly stick to their bs principle

[dry atlas]

damn it's lovableDea

i thought it's some rando

[sweet sparrow]

damn

[wet sluice]

me too

[steel depot]

yes bunch of them

[bright goblet]

Yk they're mad when there's two curses in one sentence

[stiff prairie]

see the red dot on a pin near top bar?

[sweet sparrow]

first time seeing kr fan accs swear

[bright goblet]

Repeated that f word twice 😭

[wet sluice]

3 bses in 1 sentence

[stiff prairie]

mans seen enuf of hybe shits

[ocean arch]

So what's nj gonna do now?

[waxen musk]

[wet sluice]

i think hybe sent them email, so we're going to wait for newjeans' respond ig

[stiff prairie]

wait for hybe to make some more mistakes ig

[waxen musk]

Whatever happened to individual meetings lol - i know they said that wouldnt be public - but instead they get an EMAIL

[lucid yarrow]

read the email bc thier management is too scare to talk to them face to face from lying too much

[wet sluice]

frrr

[hoary frost]

they are afraid of 5 little dictators

[waxen musk]

I wanna see scary NJ

[wet sluice]

5 animals

a dog, a cat, a baby bear, a bunny and a baby duck 😭

[fluid edge]

5 animals? 😭

[hoary frost]

[light hornet]

cute animals*

[acoustic valve]

Means Hybe has failed to turn the girls against each other... So far, gotta stay vigilant and show solidarity. The moment you show weakness those hyenas will pounce and destroy the few leverages they hold

[wet sluice]

scary animals

[light hornet]

ah yes

[steel depot]

[waxen musk]

Ooh nice yeah that's a good thing at least.

[sour scaffold]

Oh man

[bright goblet]

I saw it now, I'm on mobile btw thanks

[sour scaffold]

Yall whats gonna happen now…

I cannot stay in agony for this long

[tardy smelt]

oh fuck me, i closed this chat for 20 mins to touch grass, a'ight let's see

[quick wadi]

Stay outside

[astral dust]

Nvm

Found it. Jesus, 14 sec slow down

[eager hamlet]

good thing its 3am here

[astral dust]

Okay. So the members will receive the answer thru emails now?

No more 1 on 1 in person meeting?

[jolly junco]

They already did according to ador

[tardy smelt]

a'ight we ball, CEO or nothing, now we wait again

[jolly junco]

Nothing has changed since a few weeks ago, need to wait for newjeans decision

[upbeat stream]

Guys any idea how members may react?

[astral dust]

I thought they only talked abt proposing insincere contract with MHJ

[upbeat stream]

There's at least some chance they turn on mhj right?

[ocean arch]

I missed their YouTube live last time .this time Imma subscribe the channel before it's gone

[astral dust]

As creative director, not CEO

[jolly junco]

Still, not solve any bullying that newjeans got inside that building

[astral dust]

So basically MHJ side indirectly confirmed Hybe/Ador’s response to the girls which is a compromise that MHJ couldn’t take

[jolly junco]

As a director MHJ cant do anything if the CEO decline her demand 🤣

[acoustic valve]

about 0.72% by my estimation

[astral dust]

Long story short, a long political way of saying NO to NJs’ ultimatum

[wind monolith]

How would nj let us know their decision thru twitter?

[jolly junco]

They might surprise us later

[astral dust]

Im seated for another burner Youtube stream

I guess we might get that kittyz live soon

[red thorn]

Ot5 live is rare stuff

[dry atlas]

kinda tiring no

i hope the girls are well

[ocean arch]

They will post is on twitter like it's njover

[blazing sky]

Good morning gamers- any updates before I drive to work 🔥

[astral dust]

No

[sweet sparrow]

I did not expect you to use this emote

[sleek crest]

loll

[blazing sky]

[astral dust]

Just waiting for NJs’s response to Ador/Hybe’s NO

[dry atlas]

[sweet sparrow]

drive safe

[tardy smelt]

it's doomed, enjoy your shift

[astral dust]

Alex, dont be so pessimistic

[ocean arch]

Oh zzz mentioned

[jade jolt]

We need to wait for the girls response then we can say smth fs

[astral dust]

Just looking at it like this, we already hit rock bottom, so now the only way for us to go is to move forward, meaning it will get better

[sour scaffold]

If phoning is silent we def know lol

[dry atlas]

i need zzz help idk who to pull

[tardy smelt]

oh, i was joking to send them off to work thinking we're cooked, i'm pretty positive rn despite the situation

[astral dust]

What zzz?

[sweet sparrow]

gacha game

[quick wadi]

Just mute someone and call it a night

[half goblet]

just dont play gacha...

[quick wadi]

Oh you mean a game

[sweet sparrow]

[ocean arch]

https://www.prydwen.gg/zenless/tier-list/

[dry atlas]

wow bambino

you are alive

[eager hamlet]

so hybe offered mhj a position (internal director) in which mhj declined right

[half knot]

they say they did

[half goblet]

someone someone was talking about mhj so i knew this channel was opened

[half knot]

but who knows what kind of poison pill they had included in that contract, and no offer to fix the previous bad parts

the fact that this all led to two meetings this morning at ador and a shareholders meeting for ador is progress at least

[eager hamlet]

so now we just waiting for the members to respond

[half knot]

let's see what happens, things are moving behind the scenes we have no idea about, all sides have some leverage

[eager hamlet]

real

[astral dust]

I thought if it’s an unfair contract, even if they both signed, the court can nullify it, or 1 party can request to nullify it, no?

[unborn jewel]

i was actually thinking of making an edit of this

[half knot]

all those brand deals are not just signed by the members but by ador as well, breaking them would cost more than the entirety of hybe's existing warchest of cash, not to mention their huge debts and the so-far unsuccessful refinancing

[unborn jewel]

beat me to it

[astral dust]

That’s pretty standards for contracting

[half knot]

yeah unenforceable clauses can be nullified by court, too many unenforceable clauses, whether due to legality or due to circumstances, and the whole contract may be nullified

that's how loona girls got out of their contracts, it was just so bad the court looked at it and was like 'are you kidding me' and granted them injunction, except the ones who had signed a modified one and had to appeal and got a conditional injunction instead

[astral dust]

Good to know

[unborn jewel]

interesting

[stiff prairie]

how does loona situation compare to newjeans btw?

[astral dust]

I consulted with lawyer before. They said any contract has to be fair

[jade jolt]

Real

[astral dust]

It’s a requirement.

[half knot]

I don't know anything about NJ's contracts, the loona girls' contracts leaked in bits and pieces from the court documents though

IF NJ file for injunction, then parts of their contracts might come up in court documents too

[astral dust]

Yeah, or we can see it after they make final judgment

[half knot]

and we probably have korean citizens here who could access those publicly available court documents

[astral dust]

Unless they request to seal the court records

[half knot]

last time HYBE's request for that was denied

[astral dust]

Yeah. I laughed

[half knot]

I suspect it'll get denied again based on that precedent

[acoustic valve]

If NJ file it would probably look more similar to 5050's suit and less like Loona's. They'll be making the case that Hybe/Ador broke their agreements in the contract, rather than the contracts themselves being "unfair" in the first place.

[half knot]

but I still haven't seen any real journalists dig deep into those publicly available court documents that HYBE was not able to seal

[astral dust]

Yeah. I dont think any sane judge will favor Hybe as the tactics they used to play with legal loopholes

[half knot]

too many are in HYBE's pockets or pressure influence sphere

[astral dust]

Most judges hated that

[half knot]

it'lll be its own thing most likely, I don't think it'll compare to 5050 much either

[astral dust]

Yeah

[half knot]

but definitely not like loona's either given the girls are getting paid big bux, though perhaps the distribution IS unfair and we don't know

[ocean arch]

At least gp is with nj

[half knot]

let's hope it doesn't get to that though

[astral dust]

The case is different, and it could drag lomger as they might have to wait for the result from the workplace hostility investigation

[half knot]

at some point saner, cooler heads need to prevail, this is just getting ridiculous

[stiff prairie]

i thought the sealing thing was related to mhj not being able to use the previous court order's ruling on the current case

[astral dust]

No

[acoustic valve]

nah, I hope the girls get out asap and with whatever they can get from Hybe. I don't need the NewJeans brand or whatever. I just want to see the girls free and continue doing what they want with passion

[astral dust]

The sealing was to limit public access to court record of MHJ’s injunction

[acoustic valve]

of course, they'll decide whats best for themselves ultimately

[stiff prairie]

ahh i see

[half knot]

I know it's a long time away but I don't think we'll see NJ as a group past their 7 years even if they make it through this hurdle

[snow turtle]

i just hope its soon, i dont wanna have to think about it anymore

[half knot]

even MHJ keeps saying their time will expire after 7 years and they should pursue their own things after

[snow turtle]

from now on its just what ifs anyways

what could have been

[astral dust]

By 7 years, you meant 5 years from now?

[half knot]

yes

[astral dust]

Who knows, they could pull a Twice

[half knot]

assuming this step is cleared and their schedule is back on track

[sweet sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/timeline-doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-future-infinity-war-gif-11789036

[half knot]

In the past, there have been groups that used their court injunction application as leverage for better terms and management btw, Kara being a famous example back in 2011

[astral dust]

They could do their own things, and came back as a group once in a while like most senior groups did

[half goblet]

any scenario where the twitter people stop calling mhj names

[astral dust]

It’s fine. There’s nothing wrong with that plan

[lucid yarrow]

jungkook leaves military early to f hybe up that be funny not

[snow turtle]

Ive seen 10 million universes and this is the only one where NewJeans is being fucked by their own company

[copper jetty]

Nah. I doubt that'll happen.

[half knot]

it is truly a wild timeline

[dry atlas]

why when i find a group i like, finally, it turns out like this
I think many share the same sentiment

[astral dust]

Then you’re in horrible timeline. Should have escaped when you could

[dry atlas]

[copper jetty]

Just caught up with this thread and hybe getting caught is wild. Idk if it's their audacity thinking they're not going to get caught or money speaks

[steel depot]

i feel u

[astral dust]

In another universe, Hybe could be the “good” guy and MHJ was the “bad” guy

[short laurel]

if hybe wins. regardless of truth. future will look at MHJ as bad and hybe as good.

[steel depot]

the bots think hybe is the good guy

[astral dust]

Lmao. Hybe will need to have Suit and Scandal main characters in his team to spin this around

[short laurel]

ooh those bots have no brain. they should be ignored

[copper jetty]

We'll see though. We still don't know who will win. Afaik tho, MHJ always has reciepts.

[karmic thunder]

hi guys

[steel depot]

i call those antis bots too they always attack danielle's phoning live reels grrr

[half goblet]

*8ball is newjeans going to win?

[harsh dove]

is newjeans going to win?
Perhaps

[karmic thunder]

i just finished work i miss anything?

[astral dust]

Nope

[karmic thunder]

hmmmm

[strange venture]

https://www.soompi.com/article/1690798wpp/ador-confirms-plans-to-reappoint-min-hee-jin-as-internal-director-rejects-request-for-ceo-reappointment

[astral dust]

Hybe essentially said NO to the girls request, now we’re waiting to hear from them

[karmic thunder]

ah i see thats unfortunate

[short laurel]

yea but problem is not that. but korea's legal system. they are hard to trusts... and hybe has been acting little too much. why media so scared to go against hybe is very sus. like who is behind hybe that they keep getting away with their bs.

[acoustic valve]

hybe paid bots 🤝 unpaid company stans

[lucid yarrow]

connections?

[short laurel]

that was so stupid. taking out of context to attack nj and mhj. even after nj said not to bring artists into this.

[short laurel]

hybe doesn't have that much connections to rule over media. it looks big for kpop but in kroea they are not.

[steel depot]

i know right... im so mad

[lucid yarrow]

how did they cover up for the fat guy that day?

[ocean arch]

what is bots?

[subtle musk]

I backread every single message from the past couple hours and absorbed all the knowledge

[short laurel]

what ?

[acoustic valve]

"entertainment journalists" are to journalists what parking wardens are to the police. Expecting any actual journalism from them was probably a misjudgment

[copper jetty]

The LA thing with 🐷??

[dry atlas]

who's the fat guy

[short laurel]

no name calling pls. or mel gonna close the chat

[steel depot]

[astral dust]

I thought we’re not allowed to do name calling here?

[dry atlas]

[copper jetty]

Lmao

[dry atlas]

[subtle musk]

@half goblet

[copper jetty]

[dry atlas]

wow 11 you're alive

[astral dust]

Last time i got time out just for using medical term on his condition

[short laurel]

hybe made exuces which loud minority ate up. the girls with him has very delulu fandom who'll go far to protect their delulu.

[mild mist]

Doctor Robotnik

[copper jetty]

They erased that within a couple of hours but can't erase the deep fakes on Twitter and telegram. Boo!!!

[short laurel]

and more things about mhj and nj helped cover it up.

[dry atlas]

ok name calling

it's time

[mild mist]

Oh no wait that's egg man

Never mind

[quick wadi]

LETS GO!

[half goblet]

i cant say it...

[subtle musk]

can i be the last message

[ocean arch]

No

[astral dust]

I tried to stop people

[light hornet]

[astral dust]

Anyways

[short laurel]

byebye chat

[steel depot]

it's been nice yapping wit u guys

[astral dust]

Yall are getting sidetracked, reel it back

[short laurel]

/lock

[tardy smelt]

this thread has been closed by mention of bpd so many times

[subtle musk]

[astral dust]

lol

Then stop mentioning him.

[short laurel]

just call him bsh. nothing else

[karmic thunder]

Hmmm

[subtle musk]

son of a bsh

[short laurel]

hey bad 11

[astral dust]

We have like 6hr and 11 mins till the 26

[half goblet]

call him bp

[lucid yarrow]

Newjeans biggest fan

[dry atlas]

can someone type something

[astral dust]

Do yall think we’ll hear something from the girls in this timeframe?

[dry atlas]

i wanna check if automod catches it

[snow turtle]

what do u wanna hear

[karmic thunder]

gotchu

[short laurel]

bsh is bp fan considering how many tiems he mentioend them in his intl interveiws

[dry atlas]

gllit but typo

[half goblet]

WHAT

[mild mist]

glitter?

[subtle musk]

glit

[dry atlas]

i am checking automod functionalities

[karmic thunder]

hmmm maybe i dont want to

[light hornet]

something

[astral dust]

I meant there’s no rule that says the girls have to respond today. I rather them discussing it with lawyer and PR team to get a good statement out

[red thorn]

Should've made bpd bot, its role is to auto lock this channel whenever there's name calling

[short laurel]

my body fat is low

[dry atlas]

that is the role of the mods

[mild mist]

I am very much expecting a "we have discussed this and come to an agreement" in the next few days

[subtle musk]

is nwjns going to sm after a real possibility or nah

[short laurel]

mhj working with belift staff and new ceo is not good. expecially belift staff.

[astral dust]

Nah

[midnight zodiac]

illit

[copper jetty]

True. It might take a while for the girls to reply. Are they going to make it public?

[astral dust]

They will go wherever MHJ goes, be it in an established company or a MHJ’s company

[astral dust]

They will. They probably think they own the fans a proper answer/statement

[half goblet]

newjeans welcome to the HAUS

[ionic furnace]

Yall wanna tell me what I just woke up to

[subtle musk]

no

[lucid yarrow]

same old nothing

[ionic furnace]

What happened…

[quick wadi]

we are having a nice family dinner

[warm shard]

I know there will most likely be a public answer but I wonder if they're going to use phoning in the meantime

[quick wadi]

please join us

[ionic furnace]

FUCK ARE WE COOKED?..

[short laurel]

mhj make her own company. there are many investors looking to invest into her

[astral dust]

Hybe/Ador used a long confusing way of saying NO to NJs. Now we’re waiting for NJs’s side

[astral dust]

We dont know that

[short laurel]

that and hyeb downplayed NJ japan debut achievement.

[dry atlas]

the ball is in NJ's court

[ionic furnace]

We’re taking too many L’s WE NEED A DUB

[snow turtle]

Waiting for the girls to do something

[hoary frost]

NJ will score winning goal

[astral dust]

Did we take L though? I thought we have been fighting well

[dry atlas]

can they put on a mask and go live (selfish ik)

[short laurel]

MHJ name is big in korea even be4 hybe existed. intl don't know that.

[ionic furnace]

We’re getting there…

[half goblet]

twitter told me newjeans are taking Ls, i believe them

[astral dust]

But is it enough for rich people to pour money in? Is she even opened to that option? We dont know

[copper jetty]

What are the chances that ador goes indie and NJ become indie group. Lmao

[half goblet]

they are too famous to be indie

[hoary frost]

its better to be nugu than work in hell

[astral dust]

Dont be too pessimistic. It’s not the end yet. Battles we lost are just as important as battle we won

[dry atlas]

damn sage zorriet

💆‍♂️

[astral dust]

What kind of indie artists that had a whole fandom fighting against 3 fandoms?

[short laurel]

investors are not a problem. we've seen that naver and that ai company guy where discussing about investment with her which hybe mediaplayed. hybe used it's own investors back then i wonder what happened ot that. as for if she want to go for her own company. yea we don't know that part.

[quick wadi]

Cinema

[ionic furnace]

Nah we’re gonna win this…

[astral dust]

Yas. This’s the right attitude

[novel fiber]

can someone give me quick tldr of update? i just got here

[subtle musk]

so basically

[short laurel]

hybe downplayed NJ japan achievement. and basically rejected NJ demand in very round about way.

[astral dust]

I didn’t count any of those info back then as it’s a part of Hybe media play

[dry atlas]

ill pin best tldr

[red thorn]

Same old

[dry atlas]

vote on it

[astral dust]

Mine mine mine

[ionic furnace]

Hybe fucking sucks

[short laurel]

huh? it was mediaplay though. with how so much nonsense were attck on mhj.

[copper jetty]

Bunnies fandom is still small as compared to the other 2 yk. Bunnies just fight like hell.

[astral dust]

But they still have a fandom that’s big enough to have the guts to fight them

[half goblet]

i dont think we are small, at all

[astral dust]

So no indie artist status. Hanni’s Coral Reef cover alone is enough to eliminate us from Indie route

[short laurel]

we are not small but it'll be indie company if they become independent.

[acoustic valve]

tldr; #1231839760759263232 message

[narrow seal]

Message linked

message posted on <t:1721665835:f>

from strawberryjamdream

Hybe still insane, MHJ still fighting, NJ still standing, Stocks still falling
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[astral dust]

Nooo

[copper jetty]

And I cheer for indie NJ. Their music doesn't feel like kpop so 🤷
More like k indie or K r&B

[kind totem]

let’s hire jayoma atp since the girl have suffered for so long

[lucid yarrow]

again no1 has died nothing crazy illegal happen yet

[short laurel]

we don't know that. we don't know so much. all we know is. he said she said bla bla bla yap.

[novel fiber]

thx! so nothing changed and ultimatum still unresolved

[short laurel]

yup

[astral dust]

Tldr: This morning, it’s exposed that Hybe/Ador PR team conspired to downplay the sucess of NJs’s Japanese debut and fame MHJs of gaslighting NJs. Hybe/Ador countered by saying it’s a miscommunication while criticizing that journalist’s work ethic. Later this afternoon, MHJ’s statement indirectly confirm Ador/Hybe’s dirty political long way of saying NO to NJs demand. Now we’re waiting for NJs statement

[shy schooner]

nothing will be solved by today tbh

[astral dust]

Gosh. That’s tiring!

[copper jetty]

If newjeans sues does NJ still have to go to their future schedules or is all that hanging??

[dry atlas]

good job gpt

[short laurel]

fight will go on for years

it's just prelude to season 3

[hoary frost]

i guess nov2 is the real due date the injunction is the only thing that can change the situation for now both sides are just gonna keep repeating statements

[hoary frost]

unless njs themselves make a move

[copper jetty]

Tbh I forgot everything that happened in s1 and s2 already

[astral dust]

Why haven’t Netflix contacted MHJ and NJs yet for a show?

Like they can change the names and make it a show. People will eat it up

[short laurel]

s1. hybe attacked MHJ but mhj won with injunction. s2 hybe at it again but this time MHJ was kicked out. now we are at NJ made statement and hybe rejected it. with MHJ injunction on 2nd november s3 will be on.

[south vale]

[astral dust]

Jin Hee Min and Old Pants

Vs High and HSB

[steel depot]

wow not obvious at all

[short laurel]

u know if Hybe wins this. there will be a documentry that'll show hybe as good guys.

[hoary frost]

yall think NJ1 is still coming out this year?

[short laurel]

disney, netflix, grammy.

[astral dust]

Maybe they will, someone need to pay for all that lawyer fee

[short laurel]

how will there be NJ1 when NJ not even have their full creative staff with them anymore.

[novel fiber]

bunnies are going to become very knowledgeable on korean civil contract law soon

[astral dust]

A lot of it kinda common knowledge though

Well, maybe it’s just common for me as Im an adult

[novel fiber]

korea contract law is way messed compared to west

[astral dust]

Older adult, just a little bit older

[short laurel]

it's this bad now. and it was way worse years ago.

[novel fiber]

example, korea law, you can be liable for defamation even if you tell the truth lol

[short laurel]

with belift lawsuit on mhj for plagarism when they plagarised her.

[astral dust]

Didn’t Sir President imply he supported NJs? @ President, it’s time for you to show your support, sir

[modern fog]

okay

[echo scaffold]

no man he has 20% supprting rate

[novel fiber]

i think he had dinner with bts

[echo scaffold]

80%s gonna laugh at it then

[astral dust]

Im asking him to pull strings from behind the scenes

He cant publicity support anyone anyway

[lucid yarrow]

will that new NJ law with choreography kick in see how it works?

[warm shard]

I mean how would he go about that? Break into hybe and attack bpd?

[astral dust]

Eh? He’s a politician, and used to be attorney, he knows people

[echo scaffold]

can i tell u something

[astral dust]

Sure

[red thorn]

Haerin: something

[astral dust]

Like all he needs to do is to tell people to speed things up and do not let anyone interfere it

[novel fiber]

I heard breaking into hybe isnt hard

[warm shard]

I don't know what Korean president can do but in my country he can at best suggest things to lawmakers and eventually veto law projects. It's hard because it starts to involve politics and since he is a politician he might want something in return. Simply he has no horse in this game and artistic circles aren't probably that fond of him

[short laurel]

that was proposed but i doubt it'll make it as official law.

[echo scaffold]

there is this org called ‘Korea Communications Standards Commission', they deliberate things on media. the current chairman of that semi-govermental org is husband of the woman who is one of the heads of cult group that is allegedly related with hybe, guess how is he the chairman? because the president appointed him LOL

[novel fiber]

Restoring real Ador is a humanitarian issue call the UN

[short laurel]

there are alot bigger problem in korea related to human issues that UN should focus on 1st be4 kpop.

[astral dust]

Uhm. Im not asking him to do anything illegal. All he has to do is to tell someone that’s high enough that im interest in this case. Make sure it being conducted thoroughly and fairly in a timely manner

[novel fiber]

Nj is my biggest issue 😭

[lucid yarrow]

un does nothing but take ur money bro

[astral dust]

Ohhh. The connection run deep. That’s new info

[echo scaffold]

yeah all of that is pure fact 0 guessing

[warm shard]

Yeah but why would he do that? You have to consider politics, he has to gain something from it. What if he'd want NJ to work for him? It's just not a good look. It'd be smarter to push the prime minister for a change or contact the minister responsible for labor or culture, I think

[radiant marlin]

has mhj been reinstated?

[short laurel]

honestly. i believe that something like dahnworld is behind hybe that's why they are being so obvious about their mediaplay

[radiant marlin]

im taking that as a no

[astral dust]

Cant he just do it because he likes NJs? Like can we not over complicated everything? I know it’s rare in political world but it’s not impossible

[short laurel]

president is not king. people don't move to whatever he says. lol

[astral dust]

Yup. It’s a No for today ma’am/sir

[steel depot]

i wish it was this easy TT

so everyone one can sleep fine

[astral dust]

It probably easier than trying to get through Hybe’s Execs thick skulls

[short laurel]

since NJ are tourism ambassador. that department need to come out.

[echo scaffold]

i think they called out ceos of sm/jyp/yg/weverse to talk with them

[neon igloo]

so for now, we have two pieces of news:

• MHJ was denied the reinstatement of her position as CEO.
• A frador offered her the role of internal director, which MHJ does not agree with. Did I miss anything?

[echo scaffold]

like next week

[astral dust]

If you see us hanging out in this thread, it’s most likely a bad news or no good news. If we won, we would have been in NJs chat I think

[echo scaffold]

but its unlikley they talk about this controversy

[short laurel]

Hybe downplayed newjeans japan debut achievements

[neon igloo]

oh yeah, reporter interwiev

[astral dust]

You missed the key point that Hybe/Ador offered unfavorable/unfair contract to MHJs so she said No

[neon igloo]

There hasn't been an official public response to the girls' demand, right? I checked the thread and didn’t see anything like that

[astral dust]

Darn it @mel, why didn’t you pin my tdlr? I spent 5 mins to type it!

[hoary frost]

[dry atlas]

where

ik yo just used chatgpt

[astral dust]

Up!

[short laurel]

yea nothing from nj yet.

[neon igloo]

it goes without saying

[astral dust]

I did not! Chat GPT had better grammar than me

[dry atlas]

true

[half knot]

they offered no corrections to her already messy contract with them

including the non-compete and all that, and she wants her hundreds of millions too let's not kid ourselves lol

[echo scaffold]

she says they only fixed the condition from 2 month -> 5 years and didnt do antthing about clauses that she claimed to be unfair

[half knot]

those lawyers aren't working for free, they want a percentage of that too

[hoary frost]

she wants money to buy out newjeans and ador

[astral dust]

No no no. Your summary paint a completely different picture

[rose turret]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[rose turret]

hoping best for the girls

[astral dust]

Money is not everything but it can solve a lot of problems

[novel fiber]

time to be on burner youtube account watch

[hoary frost]

we wont have any news today i think. newjeans will carefully weigh their options and take actions based on that. there is no rush

[astral dust]

They should hire a PR rep like MHJ

Maybe use the same one as a bundle for discount 😂

[hoary frost]

14 days already passed. nj are free to move as they like, even legally as their demands are not met. we will have to wait and see.

[timber shell]

[neon igloo]

True, but I think they are not allowed to have such contracts

[short laurel]

ofc money is really important. no one in this world would just let it go when 100m is involved.

MHJ is not saint

[astral dust]

The girls probably already expected a NO from Hybe, that’s why they went to that meeting with Hybe/Ador on the 23rd to reiterate their demands

[dry atlas]

are you even talking about anything new or is the conversation just going around and round

[astral dust]

So now they make everything officially

[short laurel]

around and round mel

[fluid edge]

[dry atlas]

it's time

[astral dust]

We’re killing time…

[short laurel]

bye bye

[dry atlas]

nice this is my tldr now

[quick wadi]

[Caption News] 'Team Bunnies', "We hope the fandom will be a major variable in this fight" / Channel A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGraYz2pffQ

Q. What does Team Bunnies want regarding this situation?

As fans of NewJeans, Team Bunnies wants what NewJeans wants. We hope NewJeans will be happy and able to freely achieve their dreams without anyone’s interference. All fans are working together with one heart to create such an environment and to support them.
Q. Today is the deadline for normalization mentioned by NewJeans members. If it's not accepted, are there any plans for the future?
The individuals who make up the fandom are merely third parties unrelated to the issue. Therefore, we cannot accurately predict what will happen. However, as mentioned earlier, we have come together for NewJeans and are doing our best. We will continue to do so. We are currently preparing various responses, including accusing HYBE. We will take all possible actions for NewJeans and use every means available. Some of these cannot be disclosed to the public yet. However, we want you to know that we are preparing more than you might think, and none of it is to be taken lightly.

Q. Today, a reporter from a certain media outlet revealed the contents of a call with HYBE PR and conducted an interview. What are your thoughts?

We are devastated. In fact, we have been receiving various reports, including the content disclosed today, for a long time. Many journalists and industry insiders have informed us about HYBE's misconduct. Entertainment companies grow based on public love. However, HYBE's actions are difficult to understand as an entertainment company in many aspects. Why is an entertainment company, which should prioritize its artists above all else, so actively engaged in activities that harm its artists? Probably all fans who love K-pop will feel saddened by this situation. If HYBE were a company that considered the position of its artists, such a response would never have occurred. This is a response that deceives fans, artists, and shareholders alike. HYBE is managing the company solely to cater to the feelings of its executives. It's a regrettable situation.

Q. Why do you support former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin?

So far, NewJeans has achieved remarkable growth under the production and management of former CEO Min Hee-jin. Clearly, NewJeans will continue to grow and develop in the future. We believe that former CEO Min Hee-jin, who understands NewJeans better than anyone else, is necessary for this to happen. NewJeans publicly stated on their live broadcast on September 11th that they want ADOR with former CEO Min Hee-jin. We Bunnies share the same thoughts as NewJeans. Bunnies trust former CEO Min Hee-jin and are grateful for her heart that always prioritizes NewJeans. We want to continue being together and create many more precious memories.
Q. Is there anything else you'd like to add?
We want to warn HYBE. They should not underestimate the public. Clearly, individuals don't have the power to stand against a large corporation like HYBE, which has capital and media backing. HYBE's media play and desk threats are actions they can take because they disregard the power of the public. However, individuals who come together to rectify an unjust situation can sometimes achieve greater things than those with money and unreasonable power.
We hope that the existence of a 'fandom' that has come together solely for the happiness of the artists and the correction of unfair situations will be a major variable in this fight, and we want to let you know that we will always be with the blueprint promised by NewJeans and CEO Min Hee-jin.

from @graceful peak ^

[dry atlas]

Min Hee-jin "Public execution of Bang Si-hyuk for offending him... Reminded me of the movie JSA" [The Interview] [출처:중앙일보] https://www.joongang.co.kr/article/25280147

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1839045556942913749?s=46&t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

Extensive Interview with MHJ by The Joongang newspaper dated September 26, 2024.

Titled

“Min Hee-jin: ‘I Was Publicly Executed for Upsetting Bang Si-hyuk… It Reminded Me of the Movie JSA’

Kim Jung Jae and Yoo Sung won reporter

Total of 5 pages (1-3)

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 8:53 PM

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[harsh dove]

@JasmeenAlana <t:1727270419:d>

Can’t stand these two fuckass siblings
WE STAND WITH NEWJEANS
#접대골프_나락으로_홀인원
#HYBE_MEDIA_MANIPULATOR

WE STAND WITH NEWJEANS
#접대골프_나락으로_홀인원
#HYBE_MEDIA_MANIPULATOR

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[snow turtle]

haha

tour cancelled and album cancelled

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

https://tenor.com/view/cillianmurphygun-cillianmurphy-jazmincoded-gif-3811002643797340103

[hoary frost]

cato wants me to dig my eyes out

[wind monolith]

Finix with all that doomposting and 2 min later shit went downhill

[red thorn]

Hmmm surprise kr fan meeting

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[half knot]

IF she actually has a record of that settlement offer from HYBE that came in the summer according to her, that would be some damning stuff in the court

[dry atlas]

For example, I recently received a call from Billboard columnist Jeff Benjamin. He said TAG, a PR firm hired by HYBE, had sent him a dossier full of slander against me, and he found it so biased and strange that he wanted to verify the facts with me. On one hand, they publicly offer me a five-year production deal, while on the other, they’re secretly spreading defamatory material about me to foreign media. How can anyone trust a company that operates like this?”

werent TAG and jeff benjamin fresh news from this week lol

[hoary frost]

yepppp

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[harsh dove]

@Phamkuromi <t:1727274328:d>

Cancer of Kpop

#접대골프_나락으로_홀인원
#HYBE_MEDIA_MANIPULATOR

[dry atlas]

stop posting these so corny

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[hoary frost]

TAG is that pr agency hybe recently bought, they defended johnny depp and other shady cases

jeff was asking how could he get in touch with mhj bc hybe was blocking news lol

[snow turtle]

guess it was fun while it lasted lol

[half knot]

which part

[dry atlas]

@snow turtle another

[waxen panther]

this company man

[snow turtle]

yeah

im out

[half knot]

just realize that as much as HYBE does mediaplay, MHJ is also trying to incite this exact kind of emotional response too by saying that

regardless of its details.

halted could also be interpreted as on hold.

rather than canceled or scrapped. we don't know what the release date was originally supposed to be anyway.

[north geyser]

regardless still bad, we could've had an album sooner 😦

[half knot]

based on past articles, it seems the release date was meant to be very early november, we'll see how it turns out in reality.

[hoary frost]

fanmeeting might go on but album is worked with bana. it could be halted. is not impossible.

[neon igloo]

sadness mood on

[silk skiff]

won't be getting new music this year then

[jade jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-hanni-hyein-newjeans-hanni-0705ari-gif-26807148

[north geyser]

if no music this year then maybe they'll have more prep time for more songs?

[half knot]

assuming they remain in hybe

[hoary frost]

fraudor will probably respond this to defend themselves seated for today's dramatic development

[warm shard]

more prep time for working with a grammy producer

[wind monolith]

🤡🤡🤡

I hate this

[half knot]

grammy producers make really terrible music nowadays, I don't want that

[silk skiff]

nooo i completely forgot about the grammy producer hahah

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[hoary frost]

I feel sorry for hybe stocks

[warm shard]

at least it means a certain grammy winner wannabe with a house in LA doesn't produce for them

[neon igloo]

anyways it's okay if the full album doesn't come out this year, we have got two minialbums. I'm worried about when the TRUE ADOR team will be able to return to their normal work....

[snow turtle]

let it all out

im not moderating

have fun guys

[leaden igloo]

honestly if i were newjeans, id craft songs in secret, go to college, and wait until contract expires. that horrible company shouldnt get a cent from their hard work

[wind monolith]

Watch mel be lurking ready to strike

[warm shard]

i wanted to buy the albums but i don't want to support that company now 😢

[jade jolt]

Damn it s kinda getting worse everyday

[neon igloo]

yeah, sounds like a good plan to finish their contracts with the least losses and move on with their lives

[leaden igloo]

the girls have super bright futures and like newjeans is just the beginning of their lives and careers

[jade jolt]

But what are they going to do for 5 years

[snow turtle]

doubt daynosaur

people lose interest fast

[leaden igloo]

leave kpop

im pretty sure dani and hanni mostly write/think in english anyways

[jade jolt]

They aren t going to just leave kpop

[neon igloo]

What's the difference? Just look at how fromis_9 is doing... Simply become a fading project that goes to festivals once a year and works on their own music, preparing for a future without HYBE

[leaden igloo]

go to school, continue being brand ambassadors, acting...who knows

[snow turtle]

Yeah but fromis popularity wont explode once theyre out of HYBE

HYBE put them in this situation and theyre stuck in there forever

people lose interest

[leaden igloo]

if the song is good enough, interest will be organic

[shy schooner]

No more new music

[silk skiff]

there will be music

just generic ass music

[minor oar]

I am not even worried about album delays, just want the members to come out of this alright at this point tbh. Hopefully MHJ wins this injunction and that sets things back on the right path before too long here. I do feel she has a very good shot at winning, though granted I am not an expert on it or something.

[knotty valve]

I think hybe is the one company I’m going to hate for the rest of my life. I pray for its downfall every damn day. Fucking awful ass company. I hope Jungkook realizes his own company fucked over his love of newjeans and their music. I do hope he somehow reads MHJs interview.

[neon igloo]

I mean that NewJeans should become a fading project and prepare for their future without HYBE. I mentioned fromis_9 as an example of a group that HYBE has forgotten about and isn't have any good promoting anymore

[wind monolith]

What day is the injunction

[ivory spade]

wait what happened😭

[snow turtle]

exclusive interview

[ivory spade]

thx finix

[minor oar]

Unless this causes a major stir-up at Hybe in the end, to the point of a huge overhaul, people in high places getting ousted, and major reform, it would be impossible for me to support them in good conscious after all this.

[leaden igloo]

I know there were some theories on twitter that this was financially motivated but I think this mhj interview basically confirms that this was mostly due to pettiness emotions on bsh/big hit side.

[warm shard]

but wouldn't putting them on hiatus mean they're lowering the value of ador? in that case MHJ could be a pain in the ass because it'd mean that the CEO is not doing her duty to maximize profits

[ivory spade]

something that isnt very clear for me is: mhj is currently out from ador completely right? since she declined to sign the producer contract and now didnt answer the director one yet, right?

[shy schooner]

Hybe will still continue on like nothing happened

[shy schooner]

She has no role

[silk skiff]

yeah it's definitely an ego trip from bsh

[leaden igloo]

honestly I would be satisfied with just the ousting of bsh

[final crane]

Guys, I don't know what's going on this last hour, but I really think that what's left is the decision of the members, no one else, neither HYBE nor MHJ, the only thing they can do are two things, either take this to a legal issue or accept HYBE's conditions.

[neon igloo]

I think we're in for legal battles between MHJ and HYBE throughout the whole year. All NewJeans' activities will be put on hold. I truly want the girls to focus on something else just for themselves because they deserve better

[ionic rain]

kinda late but this is the guy who was trying to contact her, glad he did

[minor oar]

I can agree with that, provided that Ador and NewJeans were allowed to continue with their work after and there was a clear attempt to stop this destructive feud and return to normalcy, too.

[neon igloo]

And then it goes on to promote two films from HYBE—no way, this article is way too friendly towards HYBE

[wind monolith]

Hybe got all the media play

[neon igloo]

but global media attention is good anyway

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1839045288054632563 does not contain any media!

[cosmic belfry]

I think the article is digestible for an audience that doesn't have the full scope.

[leaden igloo]

im fine with the article because it doesn't do character assassination....look how far my standards have fallen 😭

[snow turtle]

I always loved you NewJeans

[minor oar]

I keep thinking, how sad it is and what this really says about the ridiculous nature of the industry. The higher ups in the situation have really done an amazing job of taking something that was incredibly successful for them, as well as a very bright and positive thing to their fans, and turning it into a nightmare that is now a source of stress and anxiety to themselves, the group members, and all of their fans. When the entire appeal of the product they are selling is of light-hearted, fun escapism, and they can't even contain their soul-sucking corporate heartlessness underneath from spilling over into the public eye like this, it just undermines the whole appeal of what they are selling. Millions of fans showed up for something that would bring some fun and levity to their lives, and are now stuck following the complete opposite, a saga of corporate greed and legal drama, watching the group that brought them joy suffer through it all. It is reminding me why some people want nothing to do with the whole industry again. It's like, with the slightest self-awareness, they would see how everything they are doing undermines the entire appeal of their entire industry.

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1839045288054632563 does not contain any media!

[minor oar]

Text wall, sorry, had to let that out 😭

[neon igloo]

We will all love them forever

[sour scaffold]

Oh no what’s happening 😭 tdlr plss

[neon igloo]

this is called business. Business without a soul, using contracts as a means of pressure

[leaden igloo]

no what makes me angry is that it's NOT just business. it's a small man whos scared of his legacy being outshined, so he bullies and pushes and belittles the girls he sees as the threat

and hes trying (and failing) to recreate the same success as he had with bts. he's dipping his greasy little fingers into every group he can get his hands on to say "oh bts was so successful bc of ME, not the boys"

and now that theres newjeans...the closest we've seen to major success since bts, hes mad that he didnt get his paws on the credit

so he flips the table...like a sore loser

[neon igloo]

Situations like this in the K-POP industry kill my desire to listen to K-POP. It's just inhumane treatment. This is literally a return to the era of slavery, only now it's called a contractual agreement. You're bound by non-disclosure rules, and your life and career depend on third parties. No matter how hard you try or how high you climb, if that third party decides to destroy you, they will. I'm going to sleep, mentally hating HYBE.
Wishing everyone patience and a good day guys

[ionic rain]

as a woman it makes me even more disgusted by all the misoginy related to the attacks towards nj and mhj

[leaden igloo]

I'm literally so mad at the kpop industry. It pains me to think that these strong, smart, and capable young women are subjected to this treatment...just because some old boomer thinks he can disregard their rights

I think newjeans would have been treated better in a less conservative country.

[modern fog]

don't do this man

[leaden igloo]

I'm listening to mad rap music so I'm esp angry now. if newjeans gets dungeoned im never listening to kpop again.

[wind monolith]

Me on the juice wrld sad times last time i was like this was last year

[jade jolt]

Why does bang si hyuk hate nj so much since bts stepped down from the industry nj has been one of most popular group in the company and the most popular gg in the company fs

Like wtf is he thinking

[leaden igloo]

fragile ego. he wants so bad to be considered an artist, a genius and is scared now that real artists have appeared

[hoary frost]

cuz they’re not following his puppet orders, they’re actually doing things their way and doing great at it

[leaden igloo]

when the wind blows, his head whistles

[ionic rain]

just saw someone saying that bsh is obsessed with his way of doing things (like when HYBE said it would keep its principles after nj live), mhj has a whole different approaching, and it seems way better for the industry, so he's afraid his way of dealing with the industry becomes outdated (but its just speculation)

[upper solstice]

it was a good 2 years

[modern fog]

siri play ditto by newjeans

[arctic sky]

it was good while it lasted

[cinder ocean]

guys did they won the hybe thing?

[upper solstice]

we lost curly

[cinder ocean]

WHAT

[minor oar]

I'd buy that. Guys like him literally thrive on the toxic nature of how they are currently doing business.

[cinder ocean]

wtf happen??

[wind monolith]

Album halted and fanmeet was cancelled mhj had an interview

[modern fog]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1839045556942913749?s=46&t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA

[jade jolt]

Damn this can t be over not yet

[cinder ocean]

what......

[heady gate]

oh damn, this channel is opened again

[stoic heron]

actually the album was cancelled for now, but the legal battle still on

[jade jolt]

Halted not cancelled

[leaden igloo]

siri play "how it ends" by finneas

[cinder ocean]

[stoic heron]

yes yes sorry

[upper solstice]

halted indefinitely

[jade jolt]

Dw abt it

[cinder ocean]

so like its on hold

[modern fog]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-gif-16150712255956092871

[jade jolt]

Yes but if nothing changes it s gonna end up like the secret fan meeting

[stoic heron]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-crying-sad-gif-15286789

[cinder ocean]

idk how im gonna stream new jeans now

[quick wadi]

how are you guys surprised..?

[cinder ocean]

its not the same

[leaden igloo]

not surprised, just mad

[fathom canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-gif-15712129875520007531

[cinder ocean]

im disappointed

[heady gate]

Bascially, this Hybe/NJ/MHJ conflict would delay the next comeback, World Tour, or much worse

[cinder ocean]

when tf this will end???

[upper solstice]

its over curly

[jade jolt]

How did all this end up like this im actually so mad

[cinder ocean]

oh??

[upper solstice]

put your energy into something else atp

[stoic heron]

calm down bro lol

[cinder ocean]

are they gonna be on hiatus??

[arctic sky]

it's so over

[stoic heron]

we dont know yet

[silk skiff]

no hiatus!

[jade jolt]

No we don t know nothing fs yet we need to wait for nj confirmation

[cinder ocean]

ok.......

[stoic heron]

stop assuming things guys

[hoary frost]

yall need to calm down 💀

[cinder ocean]

fine ill calm tf down

[arctic sky]

Thanks for all the fun

[stoic heron]

jesus

[upper solstice]

thanks doc

we need him

[cinder ocean]

im gonna forget this again

[quick wadi]

Me too

[dry atlas]

man it's funny how they still got her to pose

[dry atlas]

hybe response to mhj's interview
https://hybecorp.com/kor/news/announcements/content/6434

holy shsit

ADOR had been considering Seoul World Cup Stadium as a venue for the fan meeting, but the booking was denied due to grass issues. The new leadership made several attempts to propose alternatives and discuss the new album, requesting meetings with Director Min and communicating via emails, but she delayed her responses or suddenly took an extended leave of absence, causing disruptions. As a result, many initiatives for the fans remain on hold due to Director Min’s negligence and decision-making delays.

NewJeans in sangam?! holy shit that's big

[rapid niche]

[dry atlas]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/DAOS_ZRhffh/

more sangam

[quick wadi]

https://x.com/Jeff__Benjamin/status/1839219206849519718

[harsh dove]

@Jeff__Benjamin <t:1727339004:d>

I was surprised to see my name mentioned in recent articles and statements. My role is just to get the facts from every side which I'm doing. Anyone adding emotions to my standard fact checking is adding their personal feelings or biases

To be transparent and avoid any issues since I do not want to be personally involved in this story, I'm releasing the following screenshots of my communications of both sides. I feel a little awkward doing so but private information like names and emails, as well as typos, are redacted as best as possible to ensure everyone's safety and minimize any confusion

Thank you

[dry atlas]

ok yeah so TAG PR did send him something, but didnt say what

but mhj reaction says it all

[harsh dove]

@NJBUBBLEGUM <t:1727340171:d>

Translation of Korean Texts:

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1839225804154409337?t=i3rDxv9KhEMN_nlQFFsMSg&s=19

팀 버니즈 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

(ENG) Hello, this is Team Bunnies.

We kindly ask for your understanding as we are compelled to release multiple statements due to HYBE’s relentless and irrational media manipulation.

Team Bunnies is a group of dedicated Bunnies actively working across various fields, including

Twitter · Sep 26, 2024, 8:49 AM

bruh when will the press get tired of hybe's shenanigans

[dry atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/live/w-LZ9GJN12A
mhj talk at 21:00 kst

[unborn jewel]

i did not intentionally stay up for this

i am just an insomniac

[ocean arch]

We gonna open live chat ?

[dry atlas]

no

talk here

[unborn jewel]

welp its 9 o clock

[ocean arch]

Damn same time with genshin special program

[hoary frost]

will she wear bucket hat or baseball hat today?

[hollow sorrel]

bucket

[hoary frost]

probably!

[dry atlas]

started

[lost violet]

o is a black hat

[unborn jewel]

bro guessed wrong

[lost violet]

wat well she talk about?

[dry atlas]

standup

hahahah

[jolly junco]

it feels like a stand up comedy stage

[neon igloo]

For now, she's just introducing herself

[tardy smelt]

bunnies mentioned

[strange venture]

lol

[sage pilot]

well she looks good, i guess good news will come soon

[lost violet]

to laugh at hybe

[neon igloo]

She says she loves bunnies wow

[strange venture]

this look will trend again

[waxen musk]

With how the girls were the other day and MHJ today you'd think nothing horrible is happening.

[unborn jewel]

a dog walks into a tavern and says
"i cant see a thing, ill open this one"

[strange venture]

black hat black jacket

[hoary frost]

[wheat raft]

[jolly junco]

whaaatt

[sage pilot]

yep, it's honestly eases my anxiety. it seems like they're all confident

[hoary frost]

bang shihyuk watching this from his LA mansion

[strange venture]

bunnies plushies still in boxes haha

[acoustic valve]

mother speaking

[tardy smelt]

did someone hold up newjeans merch in the audience

[tired ingot]

here we go again

[lost violet]

hopefully she spill some tea

[gleaming scarab]

oo its time

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/newjeans_loop/status/1839636495788859902?t=5m6fsCuV1IzOhhuays-VdA&s=19

NewJeans Loops 🐇 (@newjeans_loop) on X

🐶:

Daepyonim~~~!! I'm waiting to watch the live stream!! We're not physically beside you, but we're all cheering you on with all our hearts!! Stay strong, daepyonim!! Fighting!!

🧢:
🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 12:01 PM

[wheat raft]

hybe PR getting ready to to write articles and rebuttals any second

[unborn jewel]

if theyre watching the live then that means something is happening

[strange venture]

1hour and 40 mins talk omg

[hoary frost]

i was writing this kfkdkdkdkd

[sage pilot]

ooohh 11k watching. more ppl than before for sure

[acoustic valve]

it's weird to know the girls are watching the same livestream lol

[wheat raft]

yeah i mean if newjeans are all cheering her on, sounds like she might say something

[dry atlas]

idk why I'm watching when i don't understand anything

it's not phoning

[unborn jewel]

lmao

[jolly junco]

there must be something important MHJ will mention

[unborn jewel]

maybe shell bring up some pictures

[wheat raft]

im just waiting for 1tokki

[jolly junco]

we are just here watching to show support LOL

[dry atlas]

i actually think this wont be like the presscon

[tardy smelt]

oh free merch?

[wheat raft]

heejinping

[hoary frost]

bunini as gifts

[dry atlas]

she'll stick to the topic for 80% of the talk

[lost violet]

i only understand ditto

[hoary frost]

she will make sure to shade hybe!

[unborn jewel]

lmao

[jolly junco]

why do i feel like she's crying?

[sage pilot]

kr bunnies saying she thanked advertisers including apple for their support lol

[dry atlas]

do these have mhj voice

[acoustic valve]

pretty much

[hoary frost]

hahaha

this bunini has exlusive mhj voice from her first conference. swearing

[sage pilot]

do y'all think bsh watches this too rn

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/k1m_kitty/status/1839636097418301444?t=aSdmcBRULE40qDTMz5ozfQ&s=19

김키티 (@k1m_kitty) on X

ㅆㅂ 강연 참석자들한테 버니니 준대 개웃겨

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 11:59 AM

[wheat raft]

his PR team for sure

[neon igloo]

She's still talking about her last press conference

[hoary frost]

what about us who are watching from screens?

[lost violet]

o wait i nvr heard about this show or podcast b4

[acoustic valve]

she said she intended to use her own money to buy gifts for the people attending today; but it became sponsored and that a lot of third-parties she's worked with has been privately giving her their support so she feels alright

[neon igloo]

I used AI translator

[waxen panther]

oh mhj having a live?

[mild mist]

"a hybe executive walks into a bar..."

[neon igloo]

She talks about her experiences because of this situation

[strange venture]

oh wow

[hoary frost]

apple always wants to be main event

[neon igloo]

wow... She was diagnosed with a panic attack 13 years ago

[dry atlas]

anyone corny or annoying will be muted immediately

[mild mist]

You'd think he'd tear himself away from his favourite afreecatv channel?

[dry atlas]

just send translations

[neon igloo]

Now she talks about her diagnosis and her communication with the doctor

• She is taking strong medicine.

[jolly junco]

i thought this talk is gonna about kpop formula

[hoary frost]

😔

[dry atlas]

damn imagine mhj bcpc

[fierce cloak]

it's nice to see her looking alright now

[neon igloo]

She talks about how she wanted to present herself during the last conference and what she doesn't like. It's hard to translate normally, to be honest. She's not pretending to be a saint. And she says that she doesn't want to swear

• She gets to her main topic and said we have something to discuss

[jolly junco]

swearing is not a crime

[fierce cloak]

swearing is good for mental health lol

[acoustic valve]

she said she doesn't know how to destress because she doesnt smoke, drink or exercise. So the doctor suggested "at least swear" lol

[fierce cloak]

damn her livestream surpass 15k views now

[neon igloo]

She will speak from the heart. She tells about her personal experience with a professor about writing a book

[jolly junco]

and i bet 10% of this viewer dont speak korean at all.... like us

[fierce cloak]

wait really? She's consider to write a book?

[fierce cloak]

fr fr

[neon igloo]

She just gives an example of her experience, it's like she's not writing a book

[short laurel]

she's a yapper queen

[neon igloo]

My God, she speaks in so many metaphors

[fierce cloak]

same here, i find her genuine and authentic with her personality and in creating art. And ofc, she's a normal person, has her flaws, and that's okay

[wheat raft]

newjeans love her, so we dont really need any other reason to support her too

[neon igloo]

She is nervous about this lecture and now she is just talking about it

She will tell us something that will help us. She is not sure it will be a good story. She says she is often asked: why did you become a producer?

[acoustic valve]

she's a professional yapper frfr

[tawdry vessel]

bias wrecker for real

[little gulch]

Did she talked about newjeans

[hoary frost]

not yet

[unborn jewel]

doesnt seem so

[neon igloo]

She started her story. She talks about her childhood, talks about music and hipster times. She talks about how she likes music and how she feels songs

[astral dust]

She sounded like me, and I dont even swear regularly

[neon igloo]

During her childhood and college years, she got her first Macintosh (PC). She learned Photoshop from professors

[unborn jewel]

im surprised i somehow knew she said that

[astral dust]

A Mac?

[rapid niche]

no hate comments, no name dropping. thanks.

[dry atlas]

wow napster

[acoustic valve]

she's a boomer

[dry atlas]

what's a napster

[neon igloo]

She recorded her favorite songs on cassettes. She talks about the difficulties of finding records from other countries

[lost violet]

sounds like a boomer thing

[vagrant marlin]

She just like me fr

[fierce cloak]

she embodied 90s and y2k lol

[hoary frost]

bunnies born after 00 listening to ancient person's experience

[leaden pawn]

we're she's not ancient, 😦

[neon igloo]

She carried compact discs and gave them to her friends. She gave one of the professors (Korean History) a compact disc

[lost violet]

what is a compact disc

[fierce cloak]

i love that she's authentic with her creativity through personal experience, that's why her works always fresh and unique, and others cannot easily just copy her works

[sage pilot]

that's kinda cute lol

[short laurel]

compact disc is cd

[fathom canopy]

CD

[neon igloo]

yea

[lost violet]

oh so thats what CD stand for

[dry atlas]

what's a cd

[unborn jewel]

this what my mom used to do 😭

[dry atlas]

cooldown?

[fathom canopy]

[warm hedge]

A compact disc

[short laurel]

CD the one that records data.

[neon igloo]

The largest company in her youth was SM, so she is going to work there

[hoary frost]

I ignored pop music when I was young, I had a hipster mentality ( ㅋㅋㅋ ). I watched TV a lot ( ㅋㅋㅋ ), but I thought (pop music) was not my style at all.

[astral dust]

“Napster,” it’s a well-known digital music service that originally launched in 1999 as a pioneering peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing platform focused on MP3 music files.

[astral dust]

It’s a CD (Compact Disc)

[hoary frost]

When I joined SM, I wasn't really interested in music, but I felt like I had no concept of graphic design, so I joined because they wanted to help me out ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[neon igloo]

she talks about her work experience in SM

[fierce cloak]

it's lovely we can get to know her better as a person, maybe after this she should open a youtube channel

[hoary frost]

she will write a book

[light hornet]

where can I watch the livestream?

[lost violet]

https://www.youtube.com/live/w-LZ9GJN12A?si=oyeEcGCGY5FigCjz

[light hornet]

what is this about? this live?

[lost violet]

i honestly dont know

[short laurel]

hyundai lecture

[dry atlas]

lmk when she gets to the point she leaves sm and joins hybe

[lost violet]

im jst here to support

[neon igloo]

She still talks about her work in SM as a graphic designer

[short laurel]

so nice that hybe can't influence hyundai

[jolly junco]

it should be about her career from the past and how she came up with kpop formula along the way

[neon igloo]

And about the K-pop idols during her youth

[fierce cloak]

ngl i expect her to give more lecture about her creative philosophy, but this become her fanmeeting and getting to know her more as a person instead she talks well, people should invite her more

[astral dust]

Hybe is nothing compared to Hyundai….

[light hornet]

ooh thank you thank you

[jolly junco]

lol hyundai is one of top 10 conglomerate in korea, they wouldnt be able to

[neon igloo]

Now she talks about her arrival in HYBE

[warm hedge]

Will she take questions at the end?

[lost violet]

hope she spill some spicy tea

[neon igloo]

And now she just went back to telling stories about her student days

[astral dust]

lol

[fierce cloak]

professional yapper

[sage pilot]

saving dessert for the last lol

[neon igloo]

Now she talks about stylists and MV

[stoic heron]

its a comedy show people are laughing lol

[jolly junco]

she yap with no direction

[fierce cloak]

gurly has ADHD (literally)

[unborn jewel]

so thats why she wears the hat

[jolly junco]

WHY

[short laurel]

IK. they are dragon while hybe is ant xD

[jolly junco]

spill

[hoary frost]

Lee Soo-man recognized Min Hee-jin's abilities and told his superiors to follow Min Hee-jin's orders even though he was her deputy

[sage pilot]

https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1839643492513153125

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

🧢You guys might not know this, but I really, really hate being in front of the camera, which is why I wear a hat for some sense of security. But it seems like this trauma got healed after the press conference. I’m not usually the type to curse; I just use it to relieve stress

Twitter · Sep 27, 2024, 12:29 PM

[fierce cloak]

LSM does have eyes for talented people

[jolly junco]

ahhh time to read

[unborn jewel]

this is where i got it from

[short laurel]

his partners, collgues or other staff etc, LSM was the superior in SM.

[neon igloo]

She goes on to talk about filming a MV and her experience in it

[astral dust]

She has anxiety and she hated being in front of camera.

[vagrant marlin]

@strange venture

[high nebula]

[hoary frost]

I was able to do a lot of directing for Girls' Generation's first album jacket design, but I was disappointed that I didn't have the authority to produce the music videos, and there were times when I didn't watch them when they came out ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
It was so hard, but he said he didn't quit SM because every time he did well, his authority increased little by little, so he just held on ㅠㅠㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

what's happening

[jolly junco]

i completely understand this, there was a period where i always wear hat everytime i went out withouth me knowing..... now i know why i did that

[dry atlas]

no

it's chill

[waxen musk]

mel what's the source?

[unborn jewel]

me, i made it up

[hoary frost]

Somehow I ended up being able to make music videos, and the reason was that when I was working on FX Pink Tape, the graphics were lacking, so I made the video with my younger sibling with a small production budget.
There's a scene in the video where Krystal is eating paper, so I took it out from above, so I sighed and pushed through, and succeeded in leaving it ㅋㅋ

[karmic thunder]

oh thread is open

[dry atlas]

she's getting louder

what she talking about

[karmic thunder]

so whats the news?

[jolly junco]

she already said she wont spill anything from today's talk hahahh

[fierce cloak]

f(x) Pink Tape changed my life, literally

[jolly junco]

best album ever from f(x)

[astral dust]

Pink tape is a masterpiece

[dry atlas]

~t https://x.com/breadluvpham/status/1839635757679436021?t=MtDSBRSFmja2j2sh7-vbCQ&s=19

[narrow seal]

240927 breadluvpham Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/breadluvpham/status/1839635757679436021
Free gift from MHJ today😲
T-shirt, Food, and NewJeans Bunini Plush

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[sage pilot]

pink tape is kpop's magnum opus

[fierce cloak]

fr, the holy trinity is legend

[astral dust]

Shadow intro was a timeless icon

[neon igloo]

She talks about how she is old and how everything depends on the young. There are a lot of different phrases here

[waxen musk]

She worked with her sibling that Hybe leaked had passed away? Or does she have other siblings?

[neon igloo]

"Right now the world loves funny things. I create a lot of funny memes."

She talks about some book about God and the devil

[waxen musk]

The bible?

[sage pilot]

the way sm gave her budget of $5 and a dream, and she still made pink tape... it's astonishing to me