NJZ Updates and Discussion

[wheat raft]

yeah i definitely did not, thanks for understanding

[pulsar epoch]

Oh wow, this would make a lot of sense

[modern fog]

[wind monolith]

ahhhh shit here we gooooooooooooo

[spark trout]

what youve read she has done

[hollow adder]

100% agree im saying that based on ppl tryna pin them on the same plain of power

[bronze jetty]

so is nwjns’ contract under ador or hybe?

[acoustic valve]

That's pretty respectful, when people give stupid opinions that enable the abuse Hybe is putting NewJeans through I'm going to call it out for what it is. Not taking this shit no more, not after what the girls have been pushed to. If you're still being polite and taking these people seriously perhaps you should think about how it affects the girls

[ionic rain]

maybe you don't know that much as you think

[half knot]

filing a motion to terminate exclusive contracts can be used as leverage and has been in the past

[dapper root]

people have drank the min heejin koolaid very hard

she is not your saviour

[half knot]

Kara did it in 2011, for example.

[hoary frost]

can u chill lol

ur taking this way too much to heart

[placid rose]

daddy chill

[jolly junco]

*sigh it all come down to this eventually

[hoary frost]

i care about the girls very much, im just making sure everyone talking here is being respectful, regardless of anyone's opinions

[spark trout]

lool i thought this thread was pro MHJ. did that change in the last few weeks?

[half knot]

why would she be our savior? it's the girls who clearly want her over HYBE.

[waxen musk]

Just assume new users have only read things from reddit. You can't just go calling them things (they deserve) because they're not educated on what things were proven to be false etc. (Also not sure when new users are trolls or not tbf)

[quick wadi]

I’m about 4 messages away from closing this thread, relax

[jolly junco]

yeah right, you know more than newjeans about her.......

[arctic sky]

Yet ther's a mod with shitty takes smh

[half knot]

I just can't see how this is at all a choice for the girls
it's either what they have been doing in what is seemingly a safe workplace environment and culture at ADOR, or dealing with HYBE who has been trying to sabotage them for months now.
Not much of a choice.

[pulsar epoch]

hopefully

[dry atlas]

i support the girls who support mhj

[ionic rain]

this thread is pro newjeans, if they support mhj then we support it

[dry atlas]

it's not that hard

[half knot]

They have a right to fight for themselves and people they value. Seems like a lot more balls and integrity than other idols, much with the same kind of attitude like how the LOONA girls fought against their slave contracts.

[ionic rain]

but as a personal opinion, I stand with her too

[dapper root]

it shouldnt be so black and white like that

[spark trout]

it looks like the mods here dont even agree on MHJ

[dapper root]

if the girls supported a dictator would you also?

not to get extreme

im just asking a question

[half knot]

And they're already millionaires in the high 7 and possible low 8 digits if they get their settlement for this year.
IF this doesn't work out, they'll just find something else to do, they're very young.

[dapper root]

do these girls take way your ablity to think for yourself?

[half knot]

But I applaud the attitude to stand up for themselves and wanting to continue their careers, putting their work on the line to go out at their career high if it doesn't work out.

[dapper root]

this i like

[half knot]

It's better than being benched by weird executive management that very obviously dislike or even despise them.

[hollow adder]

whilst supporting the girls is important, please dont give up ur own critical thinking and follow wtv other ppl believe

[acoustic valve]

it's pretty black and white if you think the girls are capable of thinking and making decisions for themselves. However, you seem to think you understand what's better for them more than the girls themselves, good on you for being so "nuanced"

[spark trout]

they have very, very clearly said for themselves that they dont feel safe without MHJ

[copper current]

tbh i only care about NJ, if someone can help them and protect them, then i am fine

[ionic rain]

the point is she is not a dictator, if there was more tones between black and white we wouldn't comply

[placid rose]

why would they support a dictator, they mentioned in yesterdays live that they wont be following hybes orders blindly

[dapper root]

im not calling mhj a dictator to be fair

[half knot]

And all the threats of super enormous contract termination fees/fines are just scare tactics too. I don't think any idol ever has had to pay crippling fines to the company they tried to break contracts with, yet.

[spark trout]

regardless if u think shes comparable to a dictator

[dapper root]

i am simply making an analogy

never compared the two

[half knot]

iirc, Korean FTC even judged excessive penalties on contract cancellation to be unenforceable and not legal.

[spark trout]

ok? lol

[dapper root]

i am asking a simple yes or no question

[placid rose]

shit analogy tbh

[arctic sky]

^\

[half knot]

https://www.soompi.com/article/957901wpp/8-major-entertainment-companies-face-reforms-unfair-contract-clauses

[ionic rain]

ofc not

[half knot]

This wasn't the 2012 seven-year max regulation, this is another one. So even if HYBE has written that the girls have to pay multiple tens of millions each to get out of contracts, if they sue, it'll likely be reduced massively.

In 2017, the KFTC ruling was that contract termination fees can't exceed the initial investment into an idol's training.

[dry atlas]

when the mod is the instigator

[hollow adder]

i think their point is just, think for yourselves and believe based on ur own beliefs

[dry atlas]

[half knot]

This idea that Newjeans have to pay for the lost income of HYBE for their remaining contract years might not even be enforceable.
But what do I know, this will all get settled over 2-3 years in the courts, both MHJ vs. HYBE as well as the Newjeans situation.

[pulsar epoch]

I'd love to think the girls are completely aware and sure about what they are doing, for their well-being

[wind monolith]

thread gotta get closed this feels like twitter now

[half knot]

also perhaps hanni and danielle can just escape to australia
maybe that's why they're the most outspoken (or it's just western upbringing lol)

[dapper root]

thank you so much

[half knot]

although to be fair hyein was the most fiery and fierce during the live...

[placid rose]

do you think that the girls live yesterday is inappropriate/unprofessional?

[acoustic valve]

Another reason it's a stupid take; all leaders are dictators to some degree and the term is chauvinistically applied to adversary states for propaganda reasons. But that's going off-topic

[ionic rain]

yeah, I'm ok with the disband but a lot of time without them producing is just sad

[dapper root]

keep changing server icons to civil rights icons that have a long history against oppression without knowing what they mean

very smart mel

[pulsar epoch]

Nah twitter is incomparable man 😭

[dry atlas]

thanks

[ionic rain]

I thought you disliked CEOs

[modern fog]

[half knot]

I think the next icon should be about seizing the means of production

[placid rose]

cuz its blm?

[lyric geyser]

Why

[ionic rain]

the binky bong and the hammer

[spark trout]

i havent agreed with anything engine has said except this

[lyric geyser]

Explain

[hollow adder]

hammer and sickle but the sickle is the lightstick

[abstract mist]

If only we had a channel dedicated to showing support from artists or celebrities to Newjeans after this incident, it would bring positive vibes to us as fans in this current situation. Group them up.

[dapper root]

and the history of oppression

[half knot]

wouldn't that just go in regular newjeans chat?

[dapper root]

yes

[spark trout]

illdouble down and just disagree for fun

[lyric geyser]

What do you propose

[placid rose]

pink

[ionic rain]

symbols of resistance are used as an act of resistance

[dapper root]

shouldnt be this one tho

[lyric geyser]

How is that related to the current situation ?

[abstract mist]

Had to scroll

[dapper root]

people have died by this symbol

and lived by it

[spark trout]

i think it's not appropriate to compare BLM and the newjeans situation

[pulsar epoch]

LMFAOO

[dapper root]

it is in poor taste to use it for a kpop group

[half knot]

but kpop appropriates symbols all the time, so do fans 😦 how do people survive on the internet

[dapper root]

😭😭😭

[acoustic valve]

the raised fist is not just a blm thing, please stop this

[dapper root]

didnt say it was

im just saying

[lyric geyser]

You understand this is the banner of the protest ?

[ionic rain]

agree

[dapper root]

a historical symbol of resistance of real importance

[spark trout]

if it's being used like a meme, then the icon isnt serious and neither is the resistance against hybe?

[acoustic valve]

the raised fist is primarily associated with resistance and had it's root in unionism and workers' rights... which ironically fits NJ's situation perfectly.

[dapper root]

shouldnt be used for something like this

[hollow adder]

yeah the crop dosnt do it justice

[half knot]

no I get you both, I agree, but I think as fans we might have more important matters to attend to than fight over it

[spark trout]

if its just a meme, then now it just seems like parody.

[dapper root]

a resistance symbol shouldnt be a "meme"

[spark trout]

i agree..

[jolly junco]

i have no idea at all what you guys are talking about with these black hand poster

[dapper root]

banger

[jolly junco]

i find nothing wrong with that?

[lyric geyser]

Do you seriously think it’s the time for this ?

[half knot]

also I doubt we can fight against hybe, newjeans fandom is too large, diverse and has a lot of casuals

[ionic rain]

actually yes

making a meme or parody over something serious just because we have the excuse of not talk about it in a time like this feels like avoiding a problem

[hollow adder]

what r u yappin abt

[ionic rain]

but as Taroboba said, it's widely used as a symbol of unionizing

[lyric geyser]

You quite literally did, but thank you for expressing your thoughts, if that’s all you have to say, feel free to move to another chat since I doubt the picture will change

[jolly junco]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1834062104015577128

[narrow seal]

240912 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1834062104015577128
Public Declaration of Support for NewJeans / WE STAND WITH NEWJEANS

On September 11th, NewJeans members Minji, Hanni, Danielle, Haerin, and Hyein spoke during a live broadcast about the discrimination, unreasonable treatment, and disregard for their opinions they had faced

[dapper root]

thank you ryujin bot

[waxen musk]

Another thing for us to sign?

[acoustic valve]

It's not a parody. The girls are fighting for their careers and livelihoods and are at risk of being contractually trapped for another five years under a company that abuses them. It's a symbol of the seriousness and solidarity

If you don't take it seriously, maybe leave the server

[jolly junco]

apparently yes

[waxen musk]

I'm not educated enough on the topic but it's being used for positive and if it does cause harm I would have thought more people than just one new user would have spoken up.

[half knot]

not trying to derail this but the symbol of fist risen up is not exclusive to black lives matter or anti-racist movements only, it's history predates that and the power fist used in the server icon predates that too, but if it's controversial, perhaps a different color than black can be used for it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_fist#Logo

[visual coral]

if its a genuine concern, perhaps u guys can speak to the mods about it 😭

[dapper root]

yeah

im one here

[pulsar epoch]

Whole lotta yapping, that's discord

[dapper root]

i got donowalled in the acutal mod chat to be quite honest with you

[quick wadi]

we did not create it

[ionic rain]

it just need to be clear that isn't one, I think it's even better to people to know about the symbol we're using

[half knot]

I get that, just saying it's not that big of a deal even if the recent association is BLM, the history is all about civil and labor rights, so it shouldn't be that controversial

[spark trout]

someone else called it a meme since it appropriates BLM, im just making that clear. i believe this situation is serious enough for the girls to do a guerilla live. the icon should be something serious people can rally behind

[half knot]

and this will eventually lead to strikes, girlcotts (since I can't say the other one) and walk-outs, as the girls are instigating, so it's fitting.

[spark trout]

@wide steeple is this a conspiracy theory

[acoustic valve]

as a union member and card-carrying socialist I believe I can claim ownership for the raised fist more than most; no it's not "offensive". The whole point of it is speaking up against authority from a position of powerlessness

[spark trout]

the girls already said in the live they organized it themselves and had help with some staff members for logistics, like film settings

[dry atlas]

the thread has lost the plot

[rapid niche]

lol lock.

[quick wadi]

[dry atlas]

"Even Min Hee-jin finds it difficult to produce 'NewJeans'... The inner thoughts of HYBE"
https://sports.khan.co.kr/article/202409121516003?pt=nv

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1834117760609386836?t=svT4Kn4JmmNyeqYfp9WEog&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

HYBE’s New CEO Lee Jae-sang Rejects NewJeans’ Demands, Says “We Will Stick to Principles”

“Lee Jae-sang, HYBE’s newly appointed CEO, has expressed that the company will handle the ADOR situation according to its principles. Essentially, this means HYBE is rejecting NewJeans’

Twitter · Sep 12, 2024, 6:32 AM

from Cloud. live summary. posting here so it's all in one channel
Burner youtube channel
Members siding with mhj
Doing this without company permission
Personal statements.

They're saying that MHJ really fought for them
That there were a lot of lies about her
Hanni said she got ignored by another team's manager telling the members to ignore hanni and not greet her while passing by her in the hallway, they mentioned a manager told their idol group they manage to ignore hanni when they were walking by and hanni said the new ceo basically told her u have no proof this happened and its too late to even bring this up as an issue and from that moment she knew the new ceo cant be trusted
"We are not going to anymore follow HYBE's orders blindly"

They want to their old staff back instead of the strangers. They made their demands
so they're okay to be with hybe as long as they revert things back to normal.

They pity MHJ. Hybe has demanded she make and create and produce their entire cb in 2 months while under legal troubles.

Minji’s closing remarks:

What we want is the original ADOR, where CEO Min Hee Jin leads both management and production. The reason we're making this request is because it's a way to coexist peacefully without conflict with HYBE. If our message has been conveyed properly, we hope Chairman Bang and HYBE make a wise decision to restore ADOR to its original state by the 25th. Thank you for listening to us.

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1834159561206628531

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

“Hello, this is Team Bunnies.

We would like to address the ongoing legal case, as well as the information currently being mentioned by HYBE or the media, and share some important facts with you.

First, regarding the ongoing legal case, we were informed that the investigation

Twitter · Sep 12, 2024, 9:18 AM

team bunnies doing the work holy shit

🥹

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1834172091622719881?t=1kio9Fc7KjvhGjK0-Q-9lg&s=19

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

the way it all makes sense.
this is hybe's end game.
when you share the same bed with the devil.

Twitter · Sep 12, 2024, 10:07 AM

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1834341682315239705?t=jTjxxHXhFNAUkEgpfz-4cw&s=19

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

According to the standard contract, NewJeans have given 14 day notice to ADOR/HYBE to cure their breach via their live.

At that time NewJeans may terminate or cancel the contract and potentially also sue for damages.

NewJeans could be owed lot of damages from HYBE.

1/

Twitter · Sep 12, 2024, 9:21 PM

[dry atlas]

*x -c https://x.com/newjeans_loop/status/1834428925734449511?t=5CDctCLE0V1gV0pUy_iNeg&s=19

NewJeans Loops 🐇 (@newjeans_loop) on X

Hello,
This is Markol Consulting Group, responsible for media communication alongside Sejong Law Firm, representing former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin.
Today, former CEO Min Hee-jin filed an "injunction request for convening an ADOR temporary shareholders' meeting and reappointment of

Twitter · Sep 13, 2024, 3:08 AM

[harsh dove]

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[dry atlas]

Min Hee-jin applies for provisional injunction for reappointment as Adore CEO [Full text of official position]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/609/0000897099
Here is the official statement from former CEO Min Hee-jin's side:

Hello, This is Marcol Consulting Group, responsible for media communications on behalf of former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin, in collaboration with the law firm Shin & Kim.

Today, former CEO Min Hee-jin filed an "injunction for convening an ADOR extraordinary general meeting of shareholders and reappointment of Min Hee-jin as an inside director" with the Seoul Central District Court (Seoul Central District Court 2024 KaHap 21391, injunction for exercising voting rights, etc.). Below is an explanation of why an injunction for director appointment and CEO reappointment was filed instead of an injunction to suspend the effect of the CEO dismissal.

The dismissal of former CEO Min Hee-jin violates the shareholder agreement and contradicts the court's prior decision on the injunction prohibiting the exercise of voting rights. Therefore, we had been preparing to contest the validity of the CEO dismissal through an injunction. However, considering that an extraordinary general meeting of shareholders is needed by November 2, 2024, for Min Hee-jin’s reappointment as a director and the court's timeline for reviewing the injunction, we filed an injunction requesting her reappointment as a director of ADOR and subsequent appointment as CEO.

According to the shareholder agreement, Min Hee-jin is guaranteed a five-year term as CEO and inside director of ADOR. This fact has already been clearly acknowledged by the Seoul Central District Court’s decision prohibiting the exercise of voting rights. Nevertheless, HYBE unilaterally dismissed former CEO Min Hee-jin based on the same grounds as before, directly violating both the still-valid shareholder agreement and the court’s injunction to guarantee her term as CEO.

On November 2, 2024, Min Hee-jin’s three-year term as an inside director of ADOR will expire. Despite less than two months remaining in her term, HYBE is unilaterally claiming, without any basis, that the shareholder agreement has been terminated. It is evident that HYBE will not reappoint Min Hee-jin as an inside director in this situation.

Thus, it was inevitable to file an injunction to convene an extraordinary general meeting of shareholders before her term as an inside director expires, allowing for the exercise of voting rights in favor of “Reappointment of Min Hee-jin as an Inside Director.”

HYBE should cease its ongoing contractual violations, business interference, defamation, and insults, and make rational management decisions for the future of ADOR and NewJeans.

[jolly junco]

she finally make a move

[wheat raft]

awesome

[jolly junco]

goodluck for the lawyer team and MHJ

[wheat raft]

All the best

[grim hatch]

[ocean arch]

[wheat raft]

[cosmic belfry]

[tawdry vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1095572512231915550.gif?size=48

[tardy smelt]

let's see how this goes

[leaden pawn]

[vagrant marlin]

WE ARE SO BACK!

[dry atlas]

honestly i dont get it

[waxen musk]

It's hard to understand.

[jolly junco]

i was hoping for MHJ to fight and get newjeans out of hybe, but she is fighting to come back to ador

i will take whatever i can get atp

[eager hamlet]

PRAYINGGG

[timber shell]

[jolly junco]

i think she really needs to come back to ador to exercise her put options, that money can be useful in the future

[quick wadi]

I’m giving this thread 1 and a half hours

before someone messes up

[waxen musk]

That's generous.

[cosmic belfry]

Well if it comes to it, she will likely do that. "you can't fire me, I quit"

[frozen granite]

She finally woke up & chose violence

[cosmic belfry]

But hopefully after finishing NJ1 and the World Tour

[dry atlas]

there's nothing really to talk about lol

[frozen granite]

Wait so if her contract is ending on November 2? What’s the point of filing for a injunction ?

[jolly junco]

do you think she has a chance for this injuction?

[dry atlas]

"injunction for convening an ADOR extraordinary general meeting of shareholders and reappointment of Min Hee-jin as an inside director"
this is confusing

[frozen granite]

What can she do for the remaining months ?

[jolly junco]

if she came back as ADOR CEO, she can renew her own in house director contract

but with the new CEO in complete control over management, its obvious they wont renew her contract as the producer

[frozen granite]

Yeah so what would be the point? She can’t really accomplish much is what I’m gathering

[waxen musk]

I think my lack of understanding comes from me just not seeing Hybe giving in to allowing her reinstatement.

[jolly junco]

thas why she's trying to come back as ADOR CEO

[dry atlas]

so she's requesting the court for an order (injunction) for ADOR:

1. to convene an extraordinary shareholder's mtg (to what? to do 2 &3???)
2. to reappoint her as director of ADOR from November 2, 2024
3. to reappoint her as CEO

[jolly junco]

if its failed i dont think NJ1 will happen, seeing how the girls said some project are not going to be done during that sad live

[dry atlas]

even if they convene a shareholders meeting, cant they just vote NO?

what i dont get it

[tardy smelt]

i think it means the only way for her to come back as CEO is through a temporary shareholders' meeting, and it needs to be done before November 2, so she's filing an injunction to force it

[jolly junco]

i thought the first injuction said the shareholder cant vote NO?

[frozen granite]

Is there a probability that NewJeans can just keep the brand/music if they sue?

[cosmic belfry]

Only if that's agreed upon in the settlement or judgement. But that sounds extraordinary.

[waxen musk]

This is beyond my understanding. I'm impatient to see how things turn out but I hope people write some explanations or proper theories as to what potential outcomes there are.

[ionic rain]

but they can abstain

[frozen granite]

This is giving my anxiety

[jolly junco]

so far we know that her "production role" are just words because they said she cant do anything without the approval of ADOR new VP right?

[dry atlas]

yea

she controls nothing

[tardy smelt]

okay yeah, i get it now

[frozen granite]

The fact that this would be the time we could’ve been getting NJ1 details & in contrast we are getting fed …. Lawsuits …

[hoary frost]

so when will the injunction be?

[ionic rain]

they said october when they first announce it

[tardy smelt]

no date yet

[jolly junco]

so if they want NJ1 to release, i think they really need MHJ to come back as the CEO

otherwise the project will be gone, thats what i got from newjeans last live

[ionic rain]

until 11/02

[frozen granite]

Omg

[jolly junco]

because MHJ cant do anything without the new VP approval

[hoary frost]

so what happens to NJs ultimatum?

[frozen granite]

So im guessing the songs are already recorded & ready for release so now its on hold ?

[upbeat stream]

I thought she would file for damages. Pleasantly surprised

[frozen granite]

This would’ve been better tbh

[jolly junco]

no one knows about this

[jolly junco]

newjeans STRM already did that

[ionic rain]

most of it should be ready, maybe some adjustments, choreos, music videos schedules

[upbeat stream]

Only if nwjns has a rock solid case for termination

[dry atlas]

she already mentioned she prioritizes continuing work with nj over financial gain

presscon round 2

[upbeat stream]

Which they may or may not have

[frozen granite]

Yeah I don’t think Hybe would want to let them go

[tardy smelt]

if the injunction is granted, i think there's a chance for shareholders to vote her back in, with the members expressing they want her back

[upbeat stream]

True, but I had read several articles suggesting that's what she would do

[frozen granite]

I wonder what is the ultimatum that nj threw

[jolly junco]

it would be a waste if they cant release the NJ1

[leaden pawn]

reinstate mhj as ceo and return ador to its original state, is what they said in the live
thats the ultimatum

[ionic rain]

newjeans is maybe the biggest project in her career, its something very important to her that she's doing 24/7 for 2 years and has a lot of things in mind to near futute and prob away future too, she wouldn't give up so easily just because she can do it again

[frozen granite]

No yeah but they said otherwise if they fail to do so something would happen

[jolly junco]

atp i think what MHJ want to achieve is the release of NJ1 and complete newjeans world tour

[leaden pawn]

likely terminating exclusive contract

[frozen granite]

If they do so, can Hybe sue them or no??

[hoary frost]

so they might do the injunction before the 25th?

[tribal sand]

just like what newjeans wanted right?

[jolly junco]

before November 2

[copper current]

~t https://x.com/juantokki/status/1834429636039901635

[narrow seal]

240913 juantokki Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/juantokki/status/1834429636039901635
Min Hee-jin Files for Injunction to be Reappointed as CEO of ADOR [Official Statement]
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/609/0000897099

[Newsen’s Reporter Lee Min-ji] Former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin has filed for an injunction to convene an extraordinary shareholders' meeting and be reappointed as an

[dry atlas]

so does the earlier injunction still apply?
hybe cannot exercise their voting rights so that leaves mhj as the sole voter in the mtg?

[astral dust]

Eh?

[dry atlas]

where is their confidence coming from

[uncut tiger]

does she have voting power to begin with? since shes not ceo anymore she probably doesn't have that ability anymore

[jolly junco]

should be? the ruling clearly stated that the shareholder meeting cannot vote her out as CEO

[astral dust]

Voters are voters. It just meant that the options they have are Yes or Yes

[dry atlas]

how an they ensure the vote when hybe owns 80% of ador

[hoary frost]

no cuz it confuses me if she could have done this earlier it could have prevented the livestream

[dry atlas]

maybe she still holds ador shares

last time it was something like 82 hybe 18 mhj+others

[uncut tiger]

maybe she did it after seeing the live stream?

[copper current]

It takes courage and determination

[cosmic belfry]

Things take time.

[dry atlas]

but that was based on the shareholders agreement-- which has been terminated already

[astral dust]

If she has documentation that said she own 20% shares, it’s hers unless they proved that her shared came from illegal means

[ionic rain]

she didnt know about the live and prob the girls didnt no about the injunction too

[copper current]

Hope

[leaden pawn]

if its an unjust termination i guess, but i doubt they would even try if they weren't confident they have a case

[astral dust]

We didn’t see the details of the 18-20% origin so it’s hard to say I think

[copper current]

God please

[frozen granite]

Yeah that was my main concern, I’m confident that the juror might rule in favor of NewJeans

[ionic rain]

they've been too confident even without it in the past months

[hushed violet]

I have a question, lets say newjeans leave hybe, what company could they join? Is it possible or can they start their own company?

[hoary frost]

my problem is if they scheduled the injunction around nov 1 are the girls gonna continue with their plan on the 25th?

[astral dust]

They will go wherever MHJ’s at

[unborn jewel]

the new warner brothers one possibly

[hushed violet]

Thank you thank you i see

[hoary frost]

like is the due date meaningless now?

[copper current]

🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

[dry atlas]

warner bros korea the same company that tried to poach 5050

[ionic rain]

they can wait for it, they need 14 days from the complaint, but they didn't need to do it right away

[dry atlas]

toxic af

[cosmic belfry]

That pressure still helps in a way.

[copper current]

I don't care who it is as long as they help NewJeans and treat them well

[unborn jewel]

the date is a deadline for hybe not them

[tardy smelt]

What they're arguing is that the shareholder agreement is still valid, despite what HYBE stated, because of the May 31 injunction. Which means they're also arguing that her position as director is still set to expire Nov 2 according to the shareholder agreement. HYBE obviously isn't gonna reappoint her, so they're requesting in injunction to force a temporary shareholders' meeting so she can get voted back in.

[dry atlas]

read this about the ultimatum date

[frozen granite]

This

[dry atlas]

it has a purpose

[astral dust]

From the outside perspective with all the info/rumors going around, MHJ most likely will win the lawsuits

[dry atlas]

how are they confident that forcing a meeting = voted back in

[astral dust]

But the problem is it’ll take a long time

[jolly junco]

but the shareholder agreement termination wasnt approved legally

[left crow]

Hybe owns 100% of ador, they took the remaining 18% of MHJ btw. And took her out of the board of directors, which is why they were able to remove her from the start so she didn’t even have to be there for the remainder of her term outside of her contractual duties.

[astral dust]

Which means NJs will have to wait for that whole period of time

[jolly junco]

according to sejong lawfirm

[frozen granite]

Is someone a Korean entertainment lawyer here ?? Pls enlighten us

[astral dust]

While suffering under Hybe

[tardy smelt]

Well we wouldn't know, I'm not educated enough to give an opinion on that. But what else can they try.

[astral dust]

There’s no way to speed up the process unless someone really high in the gov step in and pull strings

[hushed violet]

:(

[dry atlas]

According to the shareholder agreement, Min Hee-jin is guaranteed a five-year term as CEO and inside director of ADOR.

On November 2, 2024, Min Hee-jin’s three-year term as an inside director of ADOR will expire.
this is kinda conflicting too

[left crow]

This fight is about her trying to get back into the board and have actual approving powers so newjeans won’t get dungeoned by the bod and new ceo

[unborn jewel]

would such a person even lounge around here 😭

[leaden igloo]

Do you think mhj is doing this to keep newjeans from breaking their contract/delaying any major moves the girls might take?

[frozen granite]

Shouldn’t her contract end in 2027 ? Depending on when the contract commenced?

[tardy smelt]

I don't think so. This is her 5th year now (I think), so November 2 is the date they decide if they renew her as director.

[astral dust]

NJs and MHJs are trying to speed up the process of gaining control/freedom. They’re just doing it in different ways

[frozen granite]

Is it known when her contract began ?

[astral dust]

If Im Hybe’s director, imma just renew her for the kicks and giggles 😂

[uncut tiger]

ador was only formed like 3 years ago

[upbeat stream]

Her contract began in Nov 2021 I think

[copper current]

Can Hybe shareholder kick Bang PD out? they should care about thbeir money

[astral dust]

MHJ has been with Hybe longer than that

[jolly junco]

CEO contract and director contract are different afaik

Her contract as ceo should still valid until 2026, and her in house director contract is only until november 2024

[frozen granite]

Exactly so she still has more time than November 2024

[upbeat stream]

Hybe, not ador

[copper current]

Why Bang PD is so invincible?

[hushed violet]

He would be too big to fit through the hybe doors

[dry atlas]

he owns a majority stake of hybe

[leaden igloo]

He’s Major shareholder

[dry atlas]

or rather biggest shareholder of hybe

[jolly junco]

but with her as the CEO she can extend her contract as in house director, no?

[hoary frost]

all this dates are stressing me out

[frozen granite]

What are the differences? What tasks is she allowed to & not do?

[astral dust]

It has to pass Hybe

[copper current]

We are in politics now 🧐

[dry atlas]

all this speculation probably not useful

[hushed violet]

Yup

[dry atlas]

[quick wadi]

HEY YELLZ 😍😍😍😍😍

[uncut tiger]

but her contract would be as ceo, not creative director which she was 5 years ago

[astral dust]

It’s not but I think there’s some truth in it though

[quick wadi]

oh I’m in the thread whoops

[hushed violet]

Im just hoping for the best… that newjeans have a safe environment…. and that bsh has a strange feeling in his heart one day🥹

[cerulean lake]

there are so many lawsuits and legal disputes rn i’m so tired 😪

[astral dust]

No one in here see the actual contract so it’s very hard to have the correct answer

[jolly junco]

it shouldnt have much different if the management and production are working together, not like the new policy from HYBE which is separating the management and production

[astral dust]

COVID/FLU season is coming. BSH is at high risk category

[uncut tiger]

why wouldn't her contract end and begin anew after she had her own label as ceo? it makes no sense, there was something added in her contract to where she could do management too

[jolly junco]

this is what hybe looking for, to make us tired of newjeans and MHJ

[cerulean lake]

all the other higher ups are evil too not just him 😵‍💫

[sage pilot]

you should read this, it’s a discussion about what could happen if nj sue hybe https://x.com/cato_o_o/status/1834341682315239705?s=46

Cato_o_o (@cato_o_o) on X

According to the standard contract, NewJeans have given 14 day notice to ADOR/HYBE to cure their breach via their live.

At that time NewJeans may terminate or cancel the contract and potentially also sue for damages.

NewJeans could be owed lot of damages from HYBE.

1/

Twitter · Sep 12, 2024, 9:21 PM

[tardy smelt]

Yeah this. We'll just have to trust the lawyers know what they're talking about.

[dry atlas]

why

[copper current]

ok, we need some smart people who are learning law to strategize

[cerulean lake]

yea i saw that post abt the lawyer talking about hybe’s intentions

[astral dust]

He’s obese? And most likely has weak immune system

[hushed violet]

Well i hope for all of them 😭😭‼️

[unborn jewel]

i dont know korean law

[rapid niche]

why is it lock now?

[quick wadi]

who’s fault

[dry atlas]

Adore side, legal professionals refute Hive criticism → demand guarantee of right to refute
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003379762

fuck fraudor

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1834456341311881474?t=xEP1ESZaxnP05K5ZTVMnXw&s=19

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1726203448:d>

240912 Kim Nayon (enwaike_) instagram story

(Kim Nayon is a decorated designer, stylist and the director of her NY-based brand NAYON)

The reason I posted the previous story is that I wanted to show just how insightful Min Hee-jin is when it comes to people, her way of expressing herself, and how she treats others. Honestly, I haven’t been able to stay in touch for other reasons, but I wanted to jot down a few words with the mindset of sharing my thoughts about this person.

Min Hee-jin is a "genius" (in the quirky, unconventional sense). Absolute fact. I’ve never met someone more eccentric than myself, but she tops it. When it comes to clashing without any titles or ranks involved, this is how it goes: Min Hee-jin is supreme (지랄 존나 - in a good and intense way). Half-jokingly (but seriously.)

Starting my career at a young age, I’ve encountered a lot of “supreme” people (지랄 존나). In the entertainment and fashion industries, there are many people who just dip their toes in. It's incredibly difficult to remain in these industries with consistency and perseverance. To have worked for decades (she probably wouldn’t like me putting it this way, as it makes her sound like she's been in the industry for too long) and still have no trace of arrogance or rigidness is unbelievable. In this industry, where people's livelihoods are often at stake, this level of sensitivity is inevitable.

The job of visual directing and being a visual director in Korea actually began in the entertainment industry thanks to Min Hee-jin’s portfolio-building efforts at her previous company. What we’re seeing now is not just a director in a striped T-shirt and cap, who hasn’t had time to shower for a few days.

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1834458234243145886

. (@NJBUBBLEGUM) on X

Why did ADOR post an announcement on HYBE's website? Didn't they use Twitter and Instagram account before?
https://t.co/pou5Po5inU

Twitter · Sep 13, 2024, 5:05 AM

we've lost the aesthetic ador for good

[dry atlas]

if mhj goes through with her injunction thing which is for a shareholder's meeting in november, will newjeans move to terminate on 9/25 if hybe fails to grant their request???

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1834547729626026282?t=0V9VfN0lDEhfQACuIem0iw&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

240913 Kim Nayon (enwaike_) instagram story

The previous stories may have been a bit scattered, but what I ultimately want to say is that many people are likely seeing things from a very one-sided perspective due to what is shown in the media, so I wanted to share my thoughts.

Twitter · Sep 13, 2024, 11:00 AM

[dry atlas]

https://www.fastcompany.com/91190144/k-pop-giant-hybe-has-gone-to-war-with-newjeans-and-wants-googles-help

[dry atlas]

*x -c https://x.com/CakeDegg/status/1835239569945690397?t=YRj_wgmniHXnQD20mzFEyw&s=19

[harsh dove]

@CakeDegg <t:1726390185:d>

Why are these people so shameless, taking credit for other people’s hard work? Mhj is the real producer behind all of this and has nothing to do with the newly appointed Ador board member Lee Dokyong

[dry atlas]

holy fucking shit fraudor

[dry atlas]

https://fixupx.com/oIdpistoIa/status/1835256907113586885?t=z55hL_kfjdbicbKQ_pRQjw&s=19

civil war time

https://fixupx.com/CakeDegg/status/1835270242546704699?t=ETIZ-BH9zAL8QkG4ipOyrw&s=19

[dry atlas]

*x -c https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1835263371828236362?t=wLsH2DeEgmufLl-QdudAFQ&s=19

[harsh dove]

@NJBUBBLEGUM <t:1726395860:d>

<TRANSLATION>

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/hanniduck1006/status/1835487646334038284

Duckling (@hanniduck1006) on X

Twitter · Sep 16, 2024, 1:15 AM

accurate

[dry atlas]

*x -c https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1835674466560688359

[harsh dove]

@NewJeansSTRM <t:1726493872:d>

(ENG) Hello, this is Team Bunnies from NewJeans Streaming Support Team.

On September 2nd, we filed a complaint against HYBE Corporation, Source Music, and two journalists from the media outlet Dispatch. Following this, on the 9th, we submitted a petition to the Press Arbitration Commission requesting corrective measures against Dispatch News Group.

On the 9th, we shared a brief statement and updates, and the main content of this submission includes additional evidence supporting the statement: “Several journalists informed us that information was obtained illegally, and HYBE showed journalists and media desks information beyond what is legally permissible or related to their duties. This was done in an attempt to manipulate media coverage by publishing favorable articles based on unlawfully acquired information.”

In continuation of our previous notice, today, on the 11th, we submitted additional evidence and a statement detailing the legal aspects to the Yongsan Police Station in Seoul. We are reviewing additional complaints and will continue our efforts to hold HYBE accountable in various ways, aiming to correct the illegal infringement on the artist.

The main points of the submitted evidence and statement are as follows:

• HYBE’s persistent inappropriate demands, including protest calls to media desks or visits by PR representatives Park Tae-hee (CCO) and Cho Sung-hoon (PR Director) to request the removal of articles unfavorable to HYBE.
• Evidence showing HYBE illegally provided and leaked audit reports and other sensitive information to journalists.
• Instances where the audit reports and conversations shown to journalists by HYBE were later published in actual articles.
  Thank you.

[quick wadi]

this is @snow turtle

[dry atlas]

*x https://x.com/retrokki/status/1835990367042232475?t=rsniaT411qoKRrLiu4t7Uw&s=19

[harsh dove]

@retrokki <t:1726569189:d>

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1836697602890620987?t=-yrKQ6z2T-G5tBbP6cNwqw&s=19

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

remember their faces. remember their names. but most especially remember everything they've done to newjeans, mhj and legacy ador.
(image not mine; ctto)

WE STAND WITH NEWJEANS
#버니즈_뉴진스와함께_준비갈완료
#방시혁_2주준다_민희진_복귀시켜라

Twitter · Sep 19, 2024, 9:23 AM

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/rkvjeans/status/1836877416226246845?t=0pnK28F4S6z89jYzN5Ts3Q&s=19

ban heesoo (@rkvjeans) on X

clock itttt

Twitter · Sep 19, 2024, 9:17 PM

[quick wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/dawn-majora-finalday-gif-9607331

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1838484222602022971

. (@NJBUBBLEGUM) on X

Aha! Since 300 billion won isn't enough to cover their entire debt, they're trying to persuade investors that they can wipe out the debt in one fell swoop with NewJeans' 500 billion won contract termination fee!

Twitter · Sep 24, 2024, 7:42 AM

i need bubblegum to elaborate

[dry atlas]

oh yeah mhj has her hyundai card talk on the 27th... i wouldn't have remembered if i hadn't checked the rkpop megathread. man these antis are way more updated than me

[dry atlas]

Seoul Shinmun reporter exposes “HYBE PR requests correction of article as NewJeans is not doing as well as expected in Japan” (News Show)
https://isplus.com/article/view/isp202409250031

[dry atlas]

HYBE PR, Controversy Over Harsh Remarks to Active Reporter... "NewJeans, Gaslighted by Min Hee-jin" (News Show)
https://isplus.com/article/view/isp202409250035

Seoul Shinmun Reporter: "HYBE PR Showed Me Min Hee-jin's KakaoTalk... Shortly After, an Exclusive Article Appeared on an Online Outlet" (News Show)
https://isplus.com/article/view/isp202409250038

[lyric geyser]

Oh open

[ocean arch]

Morning

[tawdry vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-door-kitty-open-feline-gif-20348122

[lyric geyser]

Goodnight

[ocean arch]

Is it over or are we so back ?

[red thorn]

is this channel can be used for leveling rank

[paper light]

i don’t get why they’re downplaying, do they not like money/prestige?

[jade jolt]

I wonder how we will get announced? Thru hybe thru fakeador or will nj make a live again?

[cerulean lake]

maybe they wanna make it seem like they’re flopping during this drama

[quick wadi]

I’m going to ban for any negative comments

[leaden igloo]

ok so Hybe

1. tried buying korean reporters (over running ads and golf?) so that the media would downplay nj success
2. then tried covering their tracks after realizing the reporter would blab
3. wished that things would go back to the 'good ol days' where only artists were gaslit

[steel depot]

any news?

[leaden igloo]

am i reading this right

[cerulean lake]

i think it’s korean reporters not japanese ones

[leaden igloo]

oh ok

[upbeat stream]

Considering all these leaks I can see where this is headed

[leaden igloo]

breah of trust

[hoary frost]

lol theres a whole clip recording too that pr guy is doomed

[tawdry vessel]

when they failed to downplay, they took the credit instead, disgusting people

[cerulean lake]

they basically wanted the reporter to say how mhj gaslit them and the reporter said there was negative intent behind the pr representative’s intention to “factually correct” their numbers bc in reality, they just wanted to downplay their success

[upbeat stream]

This is a very strong evidence of breakdown of trust between both sides

[leaden igloo]

even the reporter (a neutral party) cant trust hybe pr...

[upbeat stream]

Also, hybe is on crack, nwjns japanese numbers are great

[minor oar]

Things could be looking more and more like NJ has a very legitimate case against Hybe with all this (as in that could hold up in court)

[ionic rain]

do we have any perspective for when its over? or just wait

[wind monolith]

Has anything happenee i just got work

[steel depot]

they even sold all there sits in tokyo dome

[lyric geyser]

Wait

[pastel umbra]

it's only 10 am in korea atm

[blazing sky]

Ahh

[upbeat stream]

They are the fastest kpop group ever to perform at Tokyo Dome, they are also the most streamed gg on spotify japan

[wind monolith]

Ok so nothing yet fk

[shy schooner]

All day drama

[blazing sky]

I gotta wake up tomorrow at 3am est- so much shit is gonna hit the fan when I awake

[upbeat stream]

Their sales aren't that good but then only produce gg's have good sales

[cosmic belfry]

I thought I would be chill but I have a pit in my stomach about this 😞

[ionic rain]

I mean, after they debunk hybe's overly destructive behavior

[lean garden]

I feel like NJ is more popular in JP than KR

Japan loves them

[wheat raft]

1tokki posted a whole thread on it

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1838741284045078804?s=46&t=nArScn1nuDKKLyO-F5UGKg

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

September 25th (Wed) “NewJeans Final Ultimatum Day… HYBE vs. Min Hee-jin Round 2” – Kwang-il Kim, Hyeong-woo Jang ( English transcript)
2024.09.25
(1/4)

https://t.co/k2pfclSeXB

When citing interviews, please specify the program title ‘CBS Radio <Kim Hyun-jung’s News Show>’.

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 12:44 AM

[leaden igloo]

maybe today is d-day...the day the offensive starts

[shut kelp]

thank u for this

[upbeat stream]

Like even aespa's sales are low in Japan, can you imagine sm releasing article on their 'poor performance'? lol

[sly python]

#TokkiWatch

[pastel umbra]

I guess it would just depend on what exactly they decide to do, which is too much to speculate about

[shut kelp]

wsg nezst

[ionic rain]

prob too popular in korea too but outlets doesnt show it

[steel depot]

ikr TT

[wheat raft]

exaclty lmao

[sly python]

im waiting for our CEO to come back

[shut kelp]

if she does please restock on those stickers 😭

[lean garden]

she's gonna be super duper CEO when she gets reinstated

[wind monolith]

Reeeeeeet how am i suppose to sleep ngl

[pastel umbra]

what are the usual jp sales for groups? like to get a better understanding of nj's sales in japan

[opal zodiac]

i cant help but laugh honestly, literally 20mins of research and i can tell that reporter isnt the type to fall for stuff like this because he has his principles. yet hybe still shamelessly being hybe. they're so baltent. this is the tip of the iceberg, they do this every day for the past months and its probably going to get worse

[lean garden]

you dont

[shut kelp]

when she does become CEO again i might just play newjeans for the whole week 😭

[sly python]

omg maybe, i still need to resend orders that got returned/got lost

[wind monolith]

Bro im on 30 min of sleep since yesterday i slept in lectures in uni

[pastel umbra]

i feel that

[south vale]

First start

[uncut tiger]

i think most normal people would side with mhj over hybe if they knew abt the situation, we're gaslighted by kpop stans but, these are normally very deranged people without the ability to think

[shut kelp]

at least the articles are getting translated properly

[jade jolt]

It s 4 am here i woke up to see what s happening 😭

[shut kelp]

no mistranslation this time

[wheat raft]

need more reporters like these fr.

[wind monolith]

So far only hybe articles have appeared right and also the japan sales thingy

[jade jolt]

Yes

[wind monolith]

Ok ok

[ionic rain]

I hope nothing bad happens to him

[wind monolith]

Imma just sleep in my 3 hour comp scie lecture tmrw ggs

[steel depot]

trust me our girls will be fine

[opal zodiac]

for sure. there was a chemical leak at a samsung factory that lead to a workers death. this article was burried in the newspaper and this reporter that leaked this hybe stuff today, he openly critisised why this story wasn't being run more openly (at least this is what i think i saw from 20mins of sleep deprived research)

[leaden igloo]

ok so did the Hybe PR man actually advocate for artists to be gaslit???

[wheat raft]

i hope hes safe

with samsung involved the government might be involved too who knows

[hoary frost]

no he wants the press to tell that njs are just being gaslit

[opal zodiac]

this was a couple years ago so hes ok i think, but yeah i really hope this doesn't turn out negatively for his work or work opportunities

[steel depot]

is he for real? what kind of pr sounds like he didn't have education

[cerulean lake]

we need bigger acc like kchartsmaster to post this recording WITHOUT BIAS so people know more abt it but i doubt they will 🫠

[shut kelp]

im just happy at least one reporter is coming out and exposing hybe media tricks

[wheat raft]

if i read it correctly, i think his superiors rejected the golf meeting and stuff right? i think they might not be a fan of hybe either

[ionic rain]

if only they reffers to the article would be enough, but the recordings would be perfect

[red thorn]

Might reach the neutral ones or that ones still on fence
But stans, doubt

[ionic rain]

from what I understood he's the superior, and the one who works for him stand his position

[wheat raft]

either way its a good thing

[acoustic valve]

Journalists with integrity and dignity still exist. They're just few and far between, and seemingly non-existent in the entertainment space probably because it's a sector mostly reliant on access journalism

[sly python]

im just glad i can type in here before it gets locked

[stoic heron]

god bless this journalist soul

[arctic sky]

https://x.com/allkpop/status/1838737364065358015?s=46

allkpop (@allkpop) on X

Journalist alleges HYBE sought to undermine NewJeans’ achievements

https://t.co/7tC84iqRDZ

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 12:28 AM

[red thorn]

https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/018/0005842784?sid=102 2nd trial of Hybe vs mhj expected to take place sometime next month

[steel depot]

let's go

[hoary frost]

i think theres more coming i remember nwjnstream got a whole list of reporters that gave them evidence

[cerulean ermine]

it's good news guys ? right?

oh...

[cerulean lake]

well we don’t know yet 😪

[tardy smelt]

for the injunction she talked about earlier

[wind monolith]

Y it taking so long

[wheat raft]

https://x.com/tikkitokki22/status/1838743711846691222?s=46&t=nArScn1nuDKKLyO-F5UGKg

TikkiTokki (@tikkitokki22) on X

Jang Hyung-woo (on left) is a 17 year veteran. Reading his history and previous articles, he's an extremely principled reporter, which is why they couldn't get to him.

Now imagine how many times they have gotten to younger, less principled, or more influenceable reporters?

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 12:53 AM

i hope this reporter inspires more reporters to speak out

[hoary frost]

lol i remember she got a lecture coming out ths friday too but i doubt she’ll bring up anything about the drama

[red thorn]

Yeah she filed the lawsuit
Hybe recruited additional powerful person on their side this time

[inland mural]

Do we have any new information? I can't access X guys, I'm from Brazil

[sly python]

press conference is on the 27th right?

[tardy smelt]

for today? check the latest pinned message, and the article sent a few messages above

[cerulean lake]

a reporter just exposed hybe’s pr representative

i thought twitter was back for brazil??

[cerulean ermine]

possibly

[sly python]

possibly? pending on this i presume?

[inland mural]

It was momentary, Elon still needs to pay what he owes

[final crane]

Hi guys, I just want to make a comment, HYBE indicated that what will happen with NJ will be totally private with each member, it will not be made public to the fans

[hoary frost]

i think its a lecture abt her creative process i doubt that she ll talk abt the ongoing situation tho

[sly python]

oohhhh interesting

[hoary frost]

i woke up to bombshell news

[quick wadi]

When do we play not like us

[latent notch]

You think the bay gon let you disrespect new jeans!?

[red thorn]

Wasn't it under discussion whether to made public or not, according to the deleted article

[leaden igloo]

when a lawsuit is won

[hoary frost]

i think how sweet is more suitable haha

[dry atlas]

hybe full rebuttal to the thing earlier
https://www.xportsnews.com/article/1908682

🥱

[wheat raft]

so quick to do rebuttals

[arctic sky]

Hehe

[hoary frost]

[tardy smelt]

here we go

[knotty valve]

Hybe: we believe in media play lol

[wind monolith]

Yap

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/tina2nHR/status/1838749074260209988

tin #MAOMAO'S CHEERLEADER🐈‍⬛🖤 (@tina2nHR) on X

are you kidding me right now?

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 1:15 AM

[heady gate]

omg, this sub is edited.

[acoustic valve]

I gotta feeling we're about to hear a lot and things are going to become very public. No matter what Hybe was claiming

[wind monolith]

Im confused

[leaden igloo]

the girls are smart enough to not blindly sign an nda

[steel depot]

this

[acoustic valve]

my feelings rn

[tardy smelt]

"In fact, HYBE PR dispatched personnel to the site so that the media could closely cover New Jeans' Tokyo Dome fan meeting, and supported smooth media coverage and positive reporting ... Accordingly, we would like to explain that there were many on-site review articles that shed light on New Jeans’ popularity in Japan from various angles."

are they taking credit for the popularity boost that came from Bunnies Camp?

[hoary frost]

there were barely any articles on Naver about Tokyo Dome

first they overlapped it with their UMG contract announcement and tried to bury it, then did not even promote it

[steel depot]

tbh

[tardy smelt]

they mainly blew up because of people who leaked footage of the event iirc

[hoary frost]

any company would spam news outlets with headline that their group performed at TD in the shortest time or such. it was quiet for NJ until their performances became viral

[leaden igloo]

gosh this whole situation reminds me of the euphoria lyric "tell no lie about me and I won't tell truths bout you"

[dry atlas]

hybe actually recorded the fancams that went viral

😏

[ashen charm]

Hybe has manipulated everything only way they win is they Pay.. let hope that doesn't happen

[steel depot]

they won't win. newjeans will

it's like hybe vs south korea

[warm hedge]

I think the court will see through Hybes behavior

[knotty valve]

Just like last time

[steel depot]

yes

[wind monolith]

[wheat raft]

https://x.com/newbunnies_401/status/1838758011399213307?s=46&t=nArScn1nuDKKLyO-F5UGKg

X

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 1:50 AM

master manipulator hybe, when their articles get released many media outlets cover it

when newjeans supporting articles release, either gets wiped or in small numbers

[tawdry vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-not-reading-i'm-not-reading-allat-sabo-kid-sabo-kid-sabo-one-piece-gif-11919032329767424609

[wheat raft]

[blazing sky]

Has anything happened yet? Tldr?

I've been driving 😔

[jade jolt]

Naur

[blazing sky]

Ok slay

[jade jolt]

Not yet

[floral orbit]

Drive safe. From what I read so far I only know something about a second trial.

[hoary frost]

lol how ironic is hybe saying leaking stuff is unethical and accusing the reporter for misconduct

[fluid edge]

So what’s going to happen today? Is hybe going to give an answer to nj?

[steel depot]

we wait

[minor oar]

Yeah, but unclear if we will hear about it :/

[fluid edge]

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1838741284045078804?t=KCy4aeIn640_1d0QxZbCvw&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

September 25th (Wed) “NewJeans Final Ultimatum Day… HYBE vs. Min Hee-jin Round 2” – Kwang-il Kim, Hyeong-woo Jang ( English transcript)
2024.09.25
(1/4)

https://t.co/k2pfclSeXB

When citing interviews, please specify the program title ‘CBS Radio <Kim Hyun-jung’s News Show>’.

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 12:44 AM

full eng transcript

[acoustic valve]

Hybe is definitely saying "No"
The girls' lawyers are likely drafting up a suit, when that becomes publicized though is unknown. Maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe next month

[tawdry vessel]

I don't care what hybe's answer gonna be, i just want them to get out of that shithole company

[acoustic valve]

Me too, but the key is that they're able to get out without paying the severe penalties in their contracts. I think they have a good case for it now.

[minor oar]

Yeah I sadly don't see Hybe saying yes to MHJ's return without a fight. If she comes back I think it's via her injunction. What the NJ members do in the meantime we must wait on the edge of our seats for though

[frozen granite]

Can someone fill me in?? What did fraudor & NewJeans talking about ? Is MHJ coming back?

[minor oar]

I worry for them with the contract termination fee is all, otherwise I say they should bail. I keep hearing contract termination fee is like 250 million USD.

Like if they win against Hybe in that case then that's glorious for them but man does it scare me to think of the bad end for that 😭

[hoary frost]

if they got legal grounds to terminate i doubt theyll need to pay the whole amount especially if hybe is at fault

[upbeat stream]

If they got legal grounds, they pay 0

[leaden pawn]

they can even sue for damages, the penalty fee in the contract goes both ways

[hoary frost]

the only downside i think of them winning is just we need to wait a lot longer for their next release

[cosmic belfry]

I think it was always going to be a no because reappointment would be admitting they were wrong to dismiss her in the first place.

[upbeat stream]

Yeah, there was no chance they were gonna do it and I think the girls knew

[minor oar]

Oh no I understand that

[upbeat stream]

They just needed to give the 14 day notice in case of any future legal action

[minor oar]

I am saying I just hope it goes well if they go that route (which I believe is totally justified, just worry for them)

[ionic rain]

I could live with that since they would be in a better place

[upbeat stream]

I learned that one of the reasons (among many) why 5050 lost their case is because they didn't give this 14 day ultimatum to attrakt

[lost violet]

Can someone tl:dr what happening rn why is there audio all over my twitter page

[hoary frost]

yea a such a small price to pay

[minor oar]

Tbh that's not ideal but really the main thing at this point is I just want to see them in a good place/safe even if that means waiting a bit for more releases that's ok

[ionic rain]

can't compare, it was more of poaching than other issues

[upbeat stream]

I know, I was only talking about the 14 day notice. 5050 case was mostly fraud as recent court documents have shown

[warm hedge]

I think NJ have a good case to cancel contract but the problem is how long it might take a court to rule on this, it’s a complex case

[ionic rain]

focusing on nj theyre doing a good job not giving any case for hybe

[upbeat stream]

That's why I said among many

[ionic rain]

yeah, it is the only thing that makes me uneasy about it, but looking to other cases it was quite fast so I'm positive ab it

[upbeat stream]

Injunction ruling is always fast

Won't take more than 2 months

[warm hedge]

Yeah injunction will be fast but my understanding is that only gets MHJ back as an internal director

The main court case could go well into 2025

[cosmic belfry]

Internal Director will mean she's CEO according the the shareholder's agreement.

[upbeat stream]

Should nwjns sue to terminate, it will be an injunction lawsuit

[orchid field]

Good morning to everyone but hybe dogs

[neon igloo]

Only one article about the journalist has been published, right?

[upbeat stream]

Loona, fifty fifty, JYJ all were injunctions

[neon igloo]

Rats, not a dogs honestly

[karmic thunder]

so what we saying good or bad?

[half knot]

It really isn't something that can be easily determined. It can take anywhere from a month to at least six months or more, if the judge determines there's immediate harm, then sure injunction is usually quick like in case of LOONA girls or a few other abused and terribly contracted idols over the years, otherwise it can take a while to get to final results as the judge hears from both sides.

And sometimes they can lose the injunction but still win the case after a couple of years like in case of Daisy and MLD or half of LOONA members who had to have an appeal for their initial injunction.

So I wouldn't be so certain of anything here since we barely know like 1-5% of all the information about this.

[leaden igloo]

its bad that hybe is so shady, but its good that they were caught.
now the girls can use hybe's deeds as proof of sabotage, just in case

[karmic thunder]

wait so any news with the whole thing?

[leaden igloo]

no news on the ultimatum

[half knot]

still a bit early in the day

[karmic thunder]

so did hybe release a statement or anything or is the thing im seeing on twitter fake?

[heady gate]

It is 11:43am in Korea.

[half knot]

we're seeing initial volleys of fire being exchanged lol

[karmic thunder]

i see alright

[half knot]

both sides clearly have both an offense and defense strategy planned out for weeks or months now.

[hoary frost]

they did never denied it just said its unethical for the reporter to release it which is so ironic haha

[karmic thunder]

ah ight ight

so what i read about them having a comeback is fake?

[tardy smelt]

that's from april

[dry atlas]

that's from april

[karmic thunder]

ah so i am very late

[dry atlas]

assume anything older than a month is moot

[floral orbit]

That's when Supernatural came out

[karmic thunder]

ah i see ok

[tardy smelt]

bubble gum and how sweet

[floral orbit]

Si

[half knot]

psychological healing and emotional stability is so ... cultish

even when that statement originally came out it was suspect AF.

[hoary frost]

lol they just confirmed mhjs appearance this friday theyll prolly taking it into consideration before making their next move

[ashen charm]

october comeback is real

[leaden igloo]

hybe is just trying to paint the girls as crazy/mentally ill

https://tenor.com/view/omg-new-jeans-hanni-oh-my-oh-my-god-ditto-gif-27515218

[astral dust]

I see the media battle is heating up again

[hoary frost]

lol theyll release it only in soundcloud

[ashen charm]

limewire

[mild spade]

can't fault the girls as well. when you are in this kinda situation at work and it's your entire life ahead at stake, that stress does hit you really hard.

[astral dust]

If Blue Coral Reef didn’t happen, Hybe would have had a field trip with their smear campaign

[frozen granite]

What are you guys eating during HYBE’s downfall?? I am eating a banana peanut butter toast with warm almond milk (^ヮ^)/

[astral dust]

Tsk tsk. Good karma or karma is real

[steel depot]

I feel like not eating but if i do I would be eating burgers

[orchid field]

I wanna send a plane into that building

[astral dust]

Im eating one of KR’s stable dish, fried chicken

[floral orbit]

Not while they're in it right? ._.

[astral dust]

If you have money to do that then might as well just buy NJs and MHJs team

[leaden igloo]

get help omg you cant just say stuff like that

[orchid field]

really wish i do

[astral dust]

I know. I know. We all do

[acoustic valve]

hybe doesn't own that building. Send one to the 25m USD mansion their chairman just bought in California instead

[sour scaffold]

Can someone do a recap of what’s going on right now with the situation pls? (Tldr)

[steel depot]

what you put out it will comeback to you... it's like what you saw you will reap... that's what i want to say to hybe...

[cosmic dagger]

not gonna lie this would make a good netflix drama

[modern fog]

chill

[steel depot]

time will come hybe... maybe this past few weeks it will come...

[dry atlas]

ok

[astral dust]

TLDR: a reporter went on a radio with record conversations about how Hybr PR team planned to downplayed/sabotage NJs’s Japan debut. They’re exposed to bribery and scheming against MHJ, character assassination by accusing her gaslighting NJs members with doctored KKT conversations

And now Bunnies are angry over it.

[cosmic dagger]

will we get any updates today?

[hoary frost]

not only that but planting narrative that MHJ gaslighted members and thats why she won injunction

[leaden igloo]

hybe pressured reporters, but one didn't fall for it

[stiff prairie]

Recordings of hybe guys speaking w the reporter?

[astral dust]

Yeah. That too

[hoary frost]

lol hybe thinks ppl are dumb just like them

[half knot]

jet fuel can't melt steel beams ... or something like that

[stiff prairie]

Any links?

[sour scaffold]

Thanks you

[floral orbit]

It's somewhere up ahead by 1tokki

[leaden igloo]

pinned

[floral orbit]

This

[stiff prairie]

Any statements from hybe ?

[dry atlas]

yes

[tawdry vessel]

rat armies will eat it up

[dry atlas]

you'll have to search rebuttal

i didnt pin it

[leaden igloo]

#1231839760759263232 message

[leaden igloo]

i seriously think theres a hybe plant in r/kpop

[upper solstice]

[leaden igloo]

and idk exactly what dc gallery is, but there too

[jade jolt]

Bro i really thought and then i looked at the date

[upbeat stream]

Reddit is just a very hateful place. I remember all the blackpink hate during 2018-19 for no reason

[jade jolt]

~t
https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1838775759256641892

[narrow seal]

240925 pannchoa Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/pannchoa/status/1838775759256641892
HYBE allegedly taking down articles surfacing on the PR director telling Seoul Shinmun to correct their article about NewJeans
https://tinyurl.com/4jvse4tj

[hoary frost]

lol i know but im talking abt the way they treat other professionals in the industry like dont they think reporters do their own research or other brand pr teams would just listen to their lies

[cosmic belfry]

Reddit is just full of BTS fans

[dry atlas]

Basically yea

and the upvote downvote system prohibits dissenting replies

(might be the wrong term lol)

[tawdry vessel]

oh yeah trueee

[astral dust]

Just dont go to kpop reddit. It’s for your mental health

[upbeat stream]

It's really r/newjeans versus the whole of kpop reddit

[dry atlas]

that second pic LOL

[dry atlas]

yk the mods there are also anti mhj

[hoary frost]

funny how they dont want to be called kpop fans even making the name kpoppies just to run a whole kpop thread

[upper solstice]

just don't go on reddit at all

[dry atlas]

they celebrated when she was demoted from ceo

they're just your typical rkpopers

[stiff prairie]

r/kpop is basically twitter stanning but ppl over there just use big words and good grammar to seem intellectual hence correct

[jade jolt]

😭😭

[upbeat stream]

Huh? Didn't know that. At least some of the discussion I have seen there seemed fine

[dry atlas]

I'm in their discord

and idc if they see this

ofc they moderate as neutral as possible ig

[upbeat stream]

You know it's a good thing the biggest newjeans server is not affiliated with the subreddit because that's usually the case

[stiff prairie]

y tho. r/newjeans is cool. It seems?

Probably only safe space for reddit bunnies

[acoustic valve]

because mods can only control the discussion so much on a sub... Unless they go full tyrant. They have the power of moderation, not to directly force people to write anti-mhj comments

[jade jolt]

What does golf events mean in these article does it have a different meaning?

[leaden igloo]

as an average person, golfing can be expensive. therefore, this could be a bribery

but maybe old men just like golfing

[upbeat stream]

Even twitter tokkis who don't like MHJ saying she was right. You know whom that reminds me of? Jose Mourinho

People hate him but then realize he was right

[stiff prairie]

I'm not a r/newjeans specialist but from what I see it's kinda reversed r/kpop there. On the megathread sometimes hybe stans will come and say some BS about NJ or mhj. The bunnies horde will then come, downvote and reply to them about how they're wrong etc.

[leaden igloo]

i think the majority of r/newjeans bunnies are pro mhj

[upbeat stream]

Yeah

[acoustic valve]

The way "bribery" works in this case is that the golfing meeting is a common event where executives get together to make deals in a casual manner. Deals such as advertising spending, which come with the mutual understanding of quid pro quo; "I will spend X money buying ads in your newspaper, so stop writing articles that we don't think is favorable to us". The nature of these backroom negotiations makes it much better to do at ostensibly "social" meetings.

[upbeat stream]

Plus, open fields and away from the media's eyes

[acoustic valve]

Because every kpop related sub is heavily pro-hybe. All the dissenting opinions are gathered in r/newjeans

[stiff prairie]

This is kpop heritage?

[leaden igloo]

i wonder if this sort of thing will die out with millenials/gen z

[jade jolt]

Thanks

[cerulean ermine]

LoL the last msg

[stiff prairie]

No it won't. We just aren't in the position to take those bribes yet

[acoustic valve]

No. This is just how modern corruption works and gen z is not ending that ever lol

[pulsar meteor]

Having discussions and meetings over golf is a very common occurrence basically a standard for business why is it being called bribery rn😭

[leaden igloo]

golfing sucks, lets do something more fun like newjeans concerts ok gang

[leaden igloo]

why not just send it in an email or on paper? its because the nature of the discussions are probably shady

[upbeat stream]

Business meetings sure, but why do you wanna go golfing with a journalist? That too one that you have no prior relationship with (apparently)

[pulsar meteor]

Why email someone when you can talk to them in person? 😭 I can see ur point with the meeting being with a journalist but I think calling the proposition of a meeting bribery is a lil overboard

[astral dust]

It’s not overboard

[leaden igloo]

it's hybe...the bar is in hell

[acoustic valve]

me and my besties going to negotiate how to set up our price fixing cartels to predate on an essential sector like healthcare so we can make bank at the next kpop concert. Peace n love 😍 /s

[astral dust]

It’s like unwritten rules in business world

You golf with them to prep for a favorable official agreement later

Or just agreements that should not be documented anywhere

[hoary frost]

ppl missed the fact that hybe is tryna bribe them with buying ad space the most common bribery in the newspaper industry since the beginning of times

[stiff prairie]

This is it really. Doesn't need to be bribes literally. You scratch my back, I scratch yours kinda deals.

[astral dust]

Idk why journalists or media outlets are not seeing the bigger picture. Why cant they be their own boss so they can negotiate bigger deals, but they’re okay with being controlled by a mere ent company

[hoary frost]

money duh

[astral dust]

The point is they can make more money and have more power if they have the control

[acoustic valve]

The "golfing" is not strong evidence by any means. It is circumstantial evidence of Hybe using their influence to sabotage NewJeans. Circumstantial evidence can still be damning, especially if there's a lot of it.

[hoary frost]

plus hybe is not just a mere ent company hybe(more like bts) influence is still huge

[stiff prairie]

Well hybe made it like mhj having meetings was a big deal like leaving w ador so it should hold a value as well.

[astral dust]

No. They dont have much influence in the ent industry. MHJ does. Yoo Jaesuk does, people like them actually have influences. Hybe just has money, for now

[leaden igloo]

yes its circumstantial but ALSO "golfing" = boys club = patriarchy and that combo just makes me so angry and sympathetic to the worker bees like newjeans

[acoustic valve]

tbh knowing how these types of execs work, especially in Korea. If they had a working relationship already the meeting would've been a room salon and not golfing...

[hoary frost]

i don’t think you understand how big BTS really is hybe usually uses them as leverage

[steel depot]

waz going on

[pulsar meteor]

Golf is terrible and boring though

[stiff prairie]

They used the fans to be precise. Plus imo the only reason they might also get away with their shares value dropping is by saying bts will cb next year and shares will be popping then. Until then let us f NJ over

[lucid yarrow]

this news is just so funny can't bride every1 lol

[astral dust]

BTS to Hybe is like BP to YG. Look how BP is doing, and how YG is doing

[marble cape]

any new news?

[astral dust]

Nope

We’re just discussing abt old stuff released this morning

[hoary frost]

yea but unlike BP they just re sign their contract so they are still under them for a long time

[leaden igloo]

if gen z is going to continue the cycle of corruption, i advocate we switch from golf to skydiving. higher risk = less corruption

[dry atlas]

you WILL know if there are news

news news

unless i miss it then nvm

[acoustic valve]

Hybe owns SB Projects which manages Ava too. She recently unfollowed them on IG too, likely left. https://x.com/AvaMax/status/1837561924042866843

AVA MAX (@AvaMax) on X

-half the label fired
-no more management
-just released my fav song ever

well I guess I gotta make some lemonade again

Twitter · Sep 21, 2024, 6:37 PM

https://imgur.com/pxhw7D6

[south vale]

half the label fired?

[acoustic valve]

tbf I don't think she's referring to SB Projects here. Labels and management are separated in America, unlike South Korea. But it's a sign they ain't doing great either.

[dry atlas]

who's ava

[astral dust]

No one knows the length of that contract and what they agreed on. For all we know; they could have added the term to termination anytime if there’s a disagreement in visions/goals

[quick wadi]

Ava max

Western artist

[dry atlas]

nugu

[quick wadi]

Recently her label was bought by hybe America i think

She’s actually pretty popular

[acoustic valve]

famous enough to make top 3 ava's according to chatgpt

[quick wadi]

You’ll know her music when you listen to it kinda thing

Like charli xcx

[dry atlas]

sounds like offtopic

lemme try

i tried

i stopped

[quick wadi]

Anyways the point being hybe aired out her label

and her management

[south vale]

agree

[heady gate]

It is 1pm KST.

[stiff prairie]

we prolly ain't getting anything more until tomorrow morning

[steel depot]

Yeah, what a mess! What kind of company would publicly announce that their artist is not doing well in terms of sales...

It's very strange

[uncut tiger]

i dont think they said that, js that the 1 million sold wasnt sold exclusively in japan and was mostly bought globally

they still sold 100k in japan tho, this is one of the things where hybe is objectively right even if they are doing it for the wrong reasons

[acoustic valve]

The thing in contention and being argued by the reporter and people critiqueing Hybe isn't that they were wrong to ask for correction. It's the fact that they were wrong for trying to influence the reporter to write an article that includes "NewJeans did not perform as well as they were expected to" which is objectively sabotage behavior.

On top of the other ridiculous stuff we heard from the recording such as Hybe claiming the girls have been brainwashed to help MHJ steal the company. And the fact they were trying to get cosy with the publication through a "golf meeting" between their department heads.

[mild mist]

I am looking forward to this next series of Courtroom Drama, I just wish we didn't have to wait this long

Maybe it'll be like Ace Attorney - completely insane

[lucid yarrow]

real life prob take years not like some tv unless we get a scoop/leaks

[hoary frost]

they weren't even right about that tho lol they said newjeans only sold 50k

https://x.com/Alucardaviary/status/1838786938628620508

伍ִ迪 † (@Alucardaviary) on X

HYBE attempted to justify their actions and minimize NewJeans' sales achievements. They FALSELY claimed that "Supernatural" had only sold 50,000 copies in Japan, despite the fact that the single album was certified Gold (100,000 copies) by the RIAJ in June.

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 3:45 AM

[wind monolith]

Anything happened?

[pulsar wasp]

how do I pin this thread so I can see it in my sidebar ?

[acoustic valve]

And considering Hybe has been so blatant in their mediaplay against not only MHJ, but the girls themselves and even the brand NewJeans; they've definitely been paying for bots or paid posters to create and escalate online "controversy" targeting them. This astroturfing of public opinions works and if you got the money, the only reason not to use it are ethics, and Hybe demonstrably has none.

[dry atlas]

by chatting in it you should be good already

i love that this came from a rogue journalist

not from mhj side (explicitly)

[cosmic belfry]

I don't think anything is happening until after the MHJ injunction. Hopefully a statement tho.

[stiff prairie]

I actually prefer it that way

[minor oar]

That makes sense tbh. Whether she wins that or not will change what this whole situation means for both Hybe and the girls significantly.

[hoary frost]

hybe appointed former judge on injunction case. they cant risk 2nd loss

[karmic thunder]

hey guys i may or may not fell asleep again

[wheat raft]

lets see if the justice system prevails

[karmic thunder]

what i miss

[mild mist]

Not much

[modern fog]

https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1838805590350664057?t=FOrfZ1QRPGWs_se3n4HF0w&s=19

. (@NJBUBBLEGUM) on X

240925 Shin Woo-seok Instagram Post:
"Th...ey...'ll.. pro...bab...ly... do... it... ag...ain... any...way"

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 4:59 AM

[upbeat stream]

Lmao

[mild mist]

I get the feeling that this will take some time

[hoary frost]

first hearing date will be announced soon

they expect it to be concluded before november i think

[wheat raft]

https://x.com/nj_protectors/status/1838588572296986778?s=61&t=n9jCUvfuk1gGrTunLMqVXQ

NewJeans Protectors (@NJ_Protectors) on X

1톤 트럭들은 이틀간 서울시내 곳곳을 돌아다니며 버니즈의 목소리를 알렸습니다

The trucks traveled around Seoul for two days to spread the word about Bunnies's voice.

25일 내일은 트럭 및 화환 총공 마지막날입니다!

September 25th is the last day of the Trucks and Wreaths Campaign!

Twitter · Sep 24, 2024, 2:37 PM

nice its in crowded areas too

newjeans are so loved, only evil people are against them

justice will prevail

[steel depot]

kbunnies are the best

[heady gate]

Maybe I should start a message trucks company in S Korea

[steel depot]

i think i should too here in PH

[hoary frost]

Holy respect

[heady gate]

hold on, it message board has Korean and Simplified Chinese languages on screen.

[steel depot]

thank you bunnies who arranged these trucks for our girls

[red thorn]

Nah, data correction seems correct for that time, RIAJ based on shipment not sale btw
the other things the PR yapping tho are clearly malicious

[short laurel]

Trucks traveling spreading the word instead of just sitting outside building?

[hoary frost]

yes

[short laurel]

Finally the right use of protest trucks.

[steel depot]

woah is the gasoline included

[short laurel]

Probably

[stiff prairie]

why would trucks pay for gas outta their own pockets lol.

[steel depot]

a package deal? idk how protest trucks do their business

anyways... im proud of the bunnies who've done it since day 1 of these chaos

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/newbunnies_401/status/1838542135588720772?s=46&t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA

peacetokki (@newbunnies_401) on X

뉴진스는 하이브에 필요없어
하지만 어도어의 영업이익은 전체11%야
뉴진스는 주가에 별 영향없어
그러나 뉴진스의 미래가치는 2조야
뉴진스는 쉽게 대체될테니 걍 나가
But 위약금은 5000억이야
뉴진스는 가스라이팅 당했어
However 직접 라방을 할 만큼 자의식이 너무 강해
도대체 뉴진스란 뭘까?

Twitter · Sep 24, 2024, 11:32 AM

[acoustic valve]

Schrodinger's Rabbit

[quick wadi]

This discord server helped also

[steel depot]

love ya guys you're amazing

[wheat raft]

i kept forgetting i contributed to that

[vagrant marlin]

https://x.com/bunnydanidang/status/1838781766318067823?s=46&t=I6rf3b3by1ewauOY65HpIA

당근모다니 (@bunnydanidang) on X

Tokkis!!
please subscribe to and support reporter Jang Hyung-woo, who worked hard to reveal the truth.

https://t.co/zq5vY2Y6RC

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 3:25 AM

[hoary frost]

[wheat raft]

but I guess the kr bunnies put in the effort so kudos to them for sure

[hoary frost]

Zones if u top the donations u can ask tim to put ur name there xd

[wheat raft]

nah i didnt donate that much lol

[hoary frost]

Same xd

But u rich u can donate the truck nxt time

Or ofc start ur own trucking company

[wheat raft]

[half knot]

For a "Japanese" album release, it still sold over a million overall
and at least a 100K of that in Japan [RIAJ: Gold for physical] (76K on public Oricon chart)
It's not like companies often correct how much a Japanese release sells in and out of Japan
sounds like HYBE sabotage, and that phone call recording is really 🐍 -like

[lucid yarrow]

its still too funny when i read all those trucks and wreath are plan by mhj they really using her as scapegoat for anything that bad happening to hybe lol

[short laurel]

When gfriend announced cb. Yesterday they start blaming mhj for their disbandment again. They using mhj for literally everything they did wrong.

[minor oar]

Lol those haters are unhinged. They'd probably say every person in this Discord is MHJ impersonating thousands of NewJeans supporters lmao

[hoary frost]

attempt was made but did not last long

[steel depot]

im fuming... are they even thinking no normal person thinks like that unless they are purchased bots

[short laurel]

Well that's how every drama against nj n mhj start online. From purchased bots

[steel depot]

i knew it

dang these rich antis...

[short laurel]

Haters eat that up n spread further. The power of prapaganda.
It became so bad that people say things like "it's a stretch but since mhj is evil it's believable. Even though the reason "mhj is evil" is based on lies.

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/wmltmwmltm/status/1838817739366109445

X

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 5:48 AM

[frozen granite]

It is rumored MHJ was behind the black plague

[hoary frost]

hybe sued youtuber who posted videos that clarified false info about nj

[short laurel]

slowly fans are speaking up about it. hybe can't forever scare people with lawsuits.

in consumer complaint in korea kpop hybe has highest numbers lol

[minor oar]

I think all this is going to catch up to them pretty soon, or is already. They got too cocky and obvious/out in the open with their tactics.

[true glacier]

in the event that newjeans terminate their contracts how much money would they have to pay

[lucid yarrow]

maybe they get pay by hybe lol

[true glacier]

something tells me thats not how contracts work

[red thorn]

In hybe's pov that ytber probably is like Seoulite tv for nj lol

[steel depot]

this i want

[short lynx]

Like???

[hoary frost]

it will go to court. nj might not pay much or anything if they win. nobody knows

[stiff prairie]

proving mistreatment on court is a tough ask tbh

[short laurel]

it could be anything. but i have a strong feeling that if hybe won, nj would have to pay alot but if nj won, hybe would have to pay alot less.

[stiff prairie]

for that we need to have more reports like the one we had earlier today

[red thorn]

That's not the ending too
Who knows whatever lawsuits they would file after that

[short laurel]

we have few. nj predebut video leak, which they can blame on 1 somu employee but hybe done nothing about it, hanni being ignored

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/cakedegg/status/1838825434206945752?s=46&t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

The funeral wreath is right in front of the building🤣
https://t.co/iDiT9xyO2z

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 6:18 AM

[short lynx]

Yeah because unfair moment

[true glacier]

their two current big things are "we were ignored in an elevator" and "a manager told a group to ignore us"

[short lynx]

The girls are going to eat them up though

[lucid yarrow]

need more hybe insiders to leak there dirty laundry

[lucid yarrow]

those r one they can say ther a lot that can't be said

[stiff prairie]

they can't file suits just cause they feel like. but surely they'll appeal if initial result doesn't go their way. it's gon be like that for both nj and hybe

[stiff prairie]

more than these i think it's the dispatch leak and overall media play by hybe

[short laurel]

also fakdour said nothing about the deepfake content. hybe side ignoring nj hate from dc galary saying they can't do anythign about it when mhj independent search found out there are ways to handle it.

[true glacier]

dispatch leak i can see a case for esp for like medical information but that also seems to just be one employee and not the entire company... depends on liability i guess

[short laurel]

it is clear hybe didn't do anything to protect them

[stiff prairie]

we can't really pin it on hybe because they didn't say anything about other groups as well. so it's mistreatment for the whole company not just nj

[short laurel]

i said above that even if they put it on 1 employee. hybe literally did nothing about solving it. they just said it was leaked from outside. they didn't take action on it.

[short laurel]

it still bad though.

[short lynx]

Like how about that pinterest account that leaked it??? They didnt do shit about it

[short laurel]

like nj and mhj asked for it to be solved. the dc galary one but hybe made excuses.

[short lynx]

[hoary frost]

source music would be unable to do that without hybe's help. belift video is also very defamatory. there were cases of sabotaging nj brand deals and negative press which hybe has hand in

[stiff prairie]

uploading content without consent after contract period is over is likely enough to hold them accountable. the issue was that dispatch wouldn't say who sent them the videos and hybe wouldn't say it's them but i heard that a reporter was whistleblowing or smth on this matter.

[hoary frost]

anyways newjeans contract is with ador, not hybe. idk how that works

they can sue hybe without breaching contract with ador?

i think it is nj's best interest to normalize ador and somehow kick hybe from it

as ador also owns newjeans IP and trademark

[stiff prairie]

the suing will be on the basis that the opp party breached contracts first

[hoary frost]

do they sue ador or hybe or both

[stiff prairie]

and hybe owns ador so it's potato potato situation unless mhj is there

[snow turtle]

is there any relevant news or still just shoulda coulda woulda

[stiff prairie]

in fact even if she is there hybe still has 80% shares

[short laurel]

my point is. hybe didn't fullfilled their obligation to protect nj over those leaks.

[light hornet]

up

[stiff prairie]

this is fuck hybe but using more words 🥲

[snow turtle]

ok so just the same old

[short laurel]

check pins finix. there is news today. hybe downplayed NJ success in japan

[stiff prairie]

he prolly seen it already

[snow turtle]

yeah thats what i mean with same old, its not progressing anything

[short laurel]

it is progressing public hate on them. and that reporter speaking up about it.

[snow turtle]

i'm waiting for the next secret live in 3 hours

[short laurel]

but it is weird. to put articles like that. a day after nj parents meeting fake adro ceo

[red thorn]

Companies (except Hybe) utilize NJ so well

[hoary frost]

congrats

[valid sierra]

stock market is now closed. news anytime soon

[hoary frost]

entertainment sector journalists have no integrity tbh. naver news page is flooded with hybe's side news. maybe those who cover other sectors like social and political issues could help us more.

"has been reached" ?

god spare us from this clickbait titles

[dry atlas]

ADOR Offers Compromise: "CEO Position Not Possible, Internal Director Role to Continue" Proposed to Min Hee-jin
https://www.etoday.co.kr/news/view/2403894

[snow turtle]

so we are cooked

gg

worst case

[frozen granite]

I wonder what will happen then

[dry atlas]

that extraordinary shareholders meeting to be internal director was one of the goals of mhj's lawsuit

3year term as internal director as compromise?

[light hornet]

so what will happen now?

[opaque torrent]

nothing lol have patience

[hoary frost]

So does internal director mean mhj gets to decide who does whag or nah

[opaque torrent]

producer again

[cosmic belfry]

Hm I was under the impression that Internal Director would mean CEO based on shareholder's agreement.

[dry atlas]

maybe the toxic clause has been removed and term has been extended

[hoary frost]

Hmm mhj not been boot is alrdy a good thing we take minor win guys

[wind monolith]

Reeeeetttttt new jeans go live now

[short laurel]

Still need ceo permission to do stuff. N new ceo os bsh puppet

[unborn jewel]

she still has her injunction case it aint over yet

[dry atlas]

we will see if newjeans takes it

it's not all up to mhj

[uncut tiger]

yes, i was only talking abt the one thing

[jolly junco]

fraudor trying hard to find middle ground with newjeans demand..........

[uncut tiger]

L hybe

[stiff prairie]

yeah unless the ceo changes to a new person without previous hybe connections this isn't that good of deal imo

[opaque torrent]

i hope mhj rejects

[acoustic valve]

I need these workers show some gd solidarity round now. Imagine if they let a union leader be smothered in slander by blatant corporate slander

[lucid yarrow]

not going to solve the bullying???

[opaque torrent]

It was reported that former CEO Min maintained his position on requesting reinstatement, but expressed his intention to accept the reappointment of an inside director for a three-year term.

lol stop lying, hybe

[hoary frost]

i will only read mhj's statement

[cinder verge]

wtf is internal director

[hoary frost]

in-house director is what she is now. just member of ador board

[opaque torrent]

yeah i'd let the court settle it. go for the full loaf instead of crumbs

[hoary frost]

it expires in November, they are offering to lengthen it

[frozen granite]

But technically she didn’t have any power? Didn’t she say that?

[opaque torrent]

hybe has to honor her as CEO for five years

[hoary frost]

yep

[short laurel]

Whats the use of internal director when belift staff n new ceo still in ador. Especially belift staff

[acoustic valve]

just my guesswork: more stupid mediaplay and hybe trying to come off as reasonable and seeking "cooperation". MHJ's impending statement will reveal the truth in any case.

[hoary frost]

yeah, they can fire her again. its pointless

[wind monolith]

I hope new jeans say no

[frozen granite]

I wonder if NJ will accept

[cosmic belfry]

It could be a half ass compromise to say they tried.

[hoary frost]

it is to save their stocks until CB repayment date

[frozen granite]

Tbh I am thinking they won’t

[opaque torrent]

they want to use ador as collateral and that isnt happening with mhj as ceo

[acoustic valve]

Remember they said the exact same thing when MHJ "resigned". That she was going to remain as a producer. We now know they were empty promises meant to deceive people into thinking they wanted to compromise.

[tardy smelt]

it sounds like MHJ has already accepted the 3 year term

[cinder verge]

so i mhj still internal director?

[acoustic valve]

no

[hoary frost]

HYBE is due to pay 293B won to Mirae Asset on Nov 5. Mirae could increase the early repayment amount until October 7. If stocks are in good condition they wont increase it ig and hybe is trying to save it until then by posting some positive news every day. imo they will use MHJ rn if she agrees but will kick her again

[stiff prairie]

yes till november if i'm not wrong

[cosmic belfry]

Hybe also claimed she "stepped down" before so we should wait and see.

[acoustic valve]

MHJ has no contractual ties with Hybe anymore other than half a dozen lawsuits going both ways

[cinder verge]

so what has changed from this board meeting? mhj is going to extend her period as internal director?

[hoary frost]

her term officially expires in November i think

[tardy smelt]

"While Min insisted on returning to the CEO position, she reportedly indicated that she would accept a three-year reappointment as internal director"
"Since the basic guarantees regarding her status, term and authority as the PD responsible for producing NewJeans has been secured, we can expect further discussions on specifc conditions to take place"

[opaque torrent]

the shareholder contract should override that

[opaque torrent]

yeah this is HYBE's pov

[red thorn]

More hybe's reasonable lies to delude the truth?

[acoustic valve]

no, her put option was available in November this year. But this is all part of the contract that Hybe unilaterally decided to terminate. So even that contract isn't binding anymore, not technically.

[opaque torrent]

same hybe that said she stepped down

[wheat raft]

if they do that the public wont sit still anyway, another round of war again

unless thats their goal, but id hope not.

[wintry rose]

what doesnt sit right with me is that hybe notified newjeans via e-mail?

[dry atlas]

maybe they'll still talk later or has talked

most of the time you need paper trails hence emails

[neon igloo]

Mhj has not yet issued a statement, let's wait for it

[short laurel]

they had meeting with fake ador ceo yesterday. so maybe they talked then ?.

[opaque torrent]

Previously, Adore made an offer to former CEO Min on the 11th of this month to take charge of producing for five years, which is the entire remaining contract period of New Jeans, but former CEO Min declined.

see, this is a lie. it was a contract for 2months with tons of toxic clauses

[stiff prairie]

i still think the hasty firing as ceo is so she couldn't sell her stocks. they're better off lowering ador's value and then being proven of guilt and letting mhj sell her stocks at lower prices then rather than now

[neon igloo]

talks are not signed documents, they are empty promises

[hoary frost]

of course they are not gonna elaborate on that

[cinder verge]

what do we know for sure?