NJZ Updates and Discussion

[ripe mango]

what did I miss

give me a tldr

[short laurel]

tldr: hybe's ceo resigns

for people hoping mhj to become hybe ceo. She doesn't want any of the headache. especially not under bang. and her main focus is NJ and only NJ.

also CEO or any executive needs to look at everyone of his idols equally and not be involved with some and not with others. something bang is majorly guilty of.

[dry atlas]

GUYS

Interview with NewJeans parents https://www.sportsworldi.com/newsView/20240724512671

[red thorn]

Holeee

[dry atlas]

bruhhuhuhuh

[arctic sky]

damn

[dry atlas]

bro this whole article is ss worthy

every paragraph has something

[arctic sky]

do it

[ripe mango]

😦

[acoustic valve]

burn hybe down when, meet y'all at seoul airport

[quick wadi]

Burn baby burn

[dry atlas]

tim has tokkitwt seen this

[quick wadi]

yes

and even if not

i am NOT posting anything anymore

actually i just saw one person

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[dry atlas]

? you retiring from wps?

i didnt know you were posting articles

[quick wadi]

im just saying

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[quick wadi]

its about to make noise probably soon

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[dry atlas]

500 comments in 20 mins on theqoo

lets go

[gleaming scarab]

this is interesting

[short laurel]

everyone acting like this after this article. go read how somu treated gfriend during training n there's garam too. so this stuff doesn't surprise me.

[upbeat stream]

But it's Newjeans getting mistreated, so watch kpop stans ignore it

[bronze jetty]

^ the unfortunate truth

[frigid mason]

did Park Jiwon just resign from hybe??

[tardy smelt]

"Minji also had a great passion for her studies. At the time, she felt pressured to 'not be able to go to school if she fell asleep', so she just washed up and went to school. It was not uncommon for her to sit in front of the school gate from 6 AM and wait for the gate to open."
"However, Source Music encouraged Minji to give up her studies ... Minji, who had a hard time with Source Music’s training method, said she found going to school enjoyable."

I'M BLASTING MINJI ODORIKO FOR THE REST OF THE DAY

[frigid mason]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-다니엘-danielle-danielle-june-marsh-mo-ji-hye-gif-5491789155605644618

[shut kelp]

anyone else cried reading the article?? the mistreatment is crazy 😭

[steep torrent]

she would pull all nighters just to go to school

[acoustic valve]

hybe shares reaching lowest point in over a year, I know it can fall further, I wanna see it go back to double digits

[frigid mason]

It's so interesting how each social media has a huge difference in opinion on the overall situation.

[ripe mango]

no wonder she cried singing odoriko

[copper jetty]

What the?? Are they saying they encouraged trainees to stop studying???

[short laurel]

to stop studying yea

[copper jetty]

Is this the norm in kpop??

[ripe mango]

probably

[copper jetty]

Smh...

[ripe mango]

same reason eunchae stop going to school

[tiny peak]

it shouldn't be, and I think the parents are implying is one of the reasons they are happy with ADOR

[acoustic valve]

Probably? Is chefs not washing their hands after using the washroom the norm in the industry? Possibly, but shouldn't accuse every restaurant of doing it even if it was

[shut kelp]

im glad mhj let the girls finish school

[frigid mason]

Its normal in kpop, hear a lot of highschool dropout idols

[copper jetty]

But it shouldn't be the norm. Agencies should actually encourage trainees to finish school.

[shut kelp]

cockroach infested dorm at the age of 14 being alone too 😭

[short laurel]

it's terrible especially in society that values education certification and age.

[frigid mason]

for sure

[ripe mango]

damn odoriko day 1 hits different now

[acoustic valve]

I'd say it's "common" more than it's the "norm", as in it probably happens more often than not but its not exactly openly supported either; companies know they shouldn't admit to doing it publicly

[frigid mason]

I think (G)-IDlE went through the same thing, I feel this story is way too common among trainees

[short laurel]

yea but sadly school time = less time for practice. they gotta pump idols out like mass production. (talking about hybe, sm, etc)

[copper jetty]

I would hate to imagine the girls not finishing school and what would've happened to them had Ador not picked them up??

[half knot]

this was the guy who wanted to put NJ on 18 months hiatus
also the guy who was brought in specifically for HYBE's IPO and restructuring into multilabel system
he also oversaw the biggest decline in revenue and profit and the biggest drops in stock price for HYBE
great portfolio!
He kind of did the same at Nexen prior lol
bye bye loser.

[shut kelp]

wow really? thats insane

[frigid mason]

Drop Stonk Speedrun part 2

[copper jetty]

I wonder if another company will pick him up again with that kind of portfolio

[short laurel]

the only thing about this makes me sad is that gamer community who hated him from nexon days will no longer be on our side. they'll move on to hate on whatever he joins next.

[frigid mason]

Yeah the members of G-IDLE take a jab at cube entertainment everytime it comes up, their working conditions was always poor even after debut

[acoustic valve]

it's like plastic surgeries; they know we know that most of the industry pushes their trainees towards it, but we all pretend it only ever happens because trainees and their families want it for themselves... which I'm sure happens as well but is almost definitely not most of the time

[waxen musk]

Oh wow yeah her wearing her own school uniform for that performance means more now after hearing this.

[short laurel]

read about what somu did to gfriend. they weren't even allowed to talk to their family. T_T

[shut kelp]

omg thats so sad

newjeans is the only gg i know so i dont much of the industry

[frigid mason]

ADOR is a unicorn compared to other labels

[short laurel]

that's why this article didn't surprised me much. i m too used to reading this.

[waxen musk]

No surprise about the mistreatment after hearing how it has been in this industry for ages, but it hurts so much more hearing it is how the NewJeans' members also had to go through that. I'm glad people like MHJ are trying to change that and make it a joy for these young girls.

[short laurel]

Ador is actually a unicorn company by definition. billion dollar startup.

[shut kelp]

i hope they do the same with their trainees if they plan to drop another group

[waxen musk]

What logic do these monsters in this industry use to explain why parents not being able to see their children is a thing that should be allowed?

[acoustic valve]

I think Ador(at least as it is now with its current staff) is one and done with NJ, unless Ador somehow actually becomes independent of Hybe

[short laurel]

MHJ and Ador is 1stt for me where debut idols are treated like humans. everywhere else human treatment is reserved for only senior gorups.

[frigid mason]

I don't think i've seen any other idol praise and talk about their label/ceo as much a NewJeans does, as well as praise coming from all the staff and collaborators of ADOR. In my opinion, that says more than leaked documents. Otherwise we would have a ton of whistleblowers if MHJ was in the wrong

[steep torrent]

hybe saying dispatch hacked into source musics hard drives.. nobody is believing that

[dry atlas]

taroboba aka straberryjam always consistent with the analogies

keep em coming

[acoustic valve]

no shot they're actually claiming that

[steep torrent]

https://x.com/fhbfhbfhbfhb/status/1816003840178806836?s=46

👊🏻 (@fhbfhbfhbfhb) on X

그럼 뭐 씨발 디스패치가 하이브랑 쏘스뮤직 하드 해킹이라도 했다는 말이에요? 안면인식장애부터 진짜 변명도 개좆같이 하네

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 6:53 AM

[short laurel]

meanwhile we have videos of idols making huh face when bang talk comes up on their content video. like his name is forced in the video trying to make good impression.

[tardy smelt]

what's this one?

[quick wadi]

I love you

[dry atlas]

that's why all other kpoppers cant fathom it and in turn it turns to hate

[shut kelp]

they are really family i know some ppl hate mhj but the way she treats her staff and the girls makes me happy she is ceo because if it was a man in charge....

[acoustic valve]

god i can feel the slimeyness of those men at hybe across the pacific ocean

[short laurel]

If they really claiming that. Dispatch would be done for. i m sure dispatch have proof of how they got it.

[ripe mango]

so dispatch hybe drama coming

[tardy smelt]

that's a huge failure on their part if that were even true

[dry atlas]

it's the CCO saying we dont know how it leaked

[lucid yarrow]

oh why even blur the faces of other trainee?i wanted to know who nj was dancing training with.

[cyan rivet]

Aaaaaaa

[dry atlas]

they're not public figures...

[cyan rivet]

[arctic sky]

https://www.pannchoa.com/2024/07/instiz-newjeans-parents-speak-out-about.html

[frigid mason]

Unnecessary collateral damage

[waxen musk]

I don't think I realised just how uncommon this type of amazing treatment is. ADOR is super special I almost feel like they're the ONLY K-pop company I can support to be honest. (Not that I've really delved deep into any other group's company, I really only listen to other group's music unlike NewJeans where I consume everything.)

[lucid yarrow]

if they hacked it why even care

[dry atlas]

ok now i get it, translator fucked it up

[frigid mason]

Yeah nah I can tell you right now, what ADOR does is far from normal unfortunately.

[frigid mason]

Dragging people who aren't related to the situation causes a messy situation

[frigid mason]

Imagine if Hybe took a snapshot of your comments and appointed you as the general public of opinion, using you as the face of the situation even though you have nothing to do with it. It would be unjust.

[upbeat stream]

I know people will inevitably defend Source forcing Minji to drop out

But remember Leeseo is still in high school

So there's definitely companies that don't force their idols

[gleaming scarab]

minji

[waxen musk]

I HYBE did feed Dispatch that stuff (isn't it obvious) and now HYBE are saying it was all Dispatch's doings without HYBE's involvement, won't Dispatch respond negatively to this and perhaps hit back at HYBE? (I dunno lol)

[short laurel]

comment section is horrible. OMG are these people even humann.

[sweet sparrow]

[dry atlas]

comment section already making it an oppression olympics

[copper jetty]

[waxen musk]

Oh god let's have a look. I can't imagine how people defend this.

[tardy smelt]

i had the same thought ahahahaha

[short laurel]

read it. it's crazy how peopel are still defending this stuff. "it's common in industry" is how they are doing it.

[copper jetty]

What your idol went to my idol went with worse... is what I'm thinking those will be

[dry atlas]

either oppression olympics or fuck em stage moms

[tardy smelt]

visited r/kpop and basically it's amounting to "BTS were treated worse and they didn't complain like this", fym are you saying you don't want conditions in the industry to improve

[half knot]

I like that phrase "oppression olympics"

[copper jetty]

I don't go to reddit anymore aside from the newjeans and memes thread.

[frigid mason]

Reddit has been very aggressive in their stance against mhj, unfortunately a lot of the comments are very out of touch

[lucid yarrow]

hmmm dispatch so where Le Sserafim debute too oh right they are hybe goon playing the narrative

[waxen musk]

Ah blaming the parents, I see.

I'm glad we got a glimpse of their parents in the vlogs because they seem like they have the best fucking families it makes me cry they're so nice.

[quick wadi]

My Twitter been pretty tame for the most part

besides a couple chaotic inducing tweets

[arctic sky]

ikr i was reading all the comments. they don't know shits theyre talking abt

[sweet sparrow]

this article just makes me love ador more

[lucid yarrow]

believing in a face vs no face corpo

[acoustic valve]

the fact you got it with pinpoint accuracy tells me you read pannchoa and reddit far more than is good for ur health

[dry atlas]

kpoppers are so used to mistreatment, and parents being pulled away from their kids, that they do not understand newjeans and ador

[dry atlas]

[sweet sparrow]

so desensitized

[tardy smelt]

zero empathy

[quick wadi]

Time to heal the timeline by posting more ot5 wallpapers

[dry atlas]

WE ARE WAITING TIM

[half knot]

this, 100%. they couldn't comprehend the girls getting overseas vacations either

[quick wadi]

Minji’s bunnies camp solo really hits different now

[frigid mason]

a lot of kpop fans are very young, so unfortunately they dont know what they dont know so we get a lot of unhinged comments.

[tardy smelt]

spam my timeline

[sweet sparrow]

[acoustic valve]

I hope Dani is already enjoying a lovely family holiday in Laos or somewhere

[somber pumice]

Chop chop tim I promised them hanni wallpapers by the end of the week...

[dry atlas]

tim skip hanni's

[short laurel]

no there are alot of women in their 30's and 40's.

[quick wadi]

💀

[wet jewel]

the one i sent

chop chop buddy get to work

[frigid mason]

that's unfortunate indeed.

[copper jetty]

Thanks Tim. We'll all be waiting for those wallpapers.

[waxen musk]

The saddest thing about all these crazies defending this stuff is my worry the companies will see people are ok with it and continue specifically saying people don't mind. (They'll continue regardless.)

[quick wadi]

Anniversary sub soon

🔜

[hoary frost]

whats going on

[tardy smelt]

[tardy smelt]

interview with parents, highlights mistreatment during trainee days, and other bits and bobs

[short laurel]

that's what's being happening for years.

only time companies made improvement are when things got blow out so much with alot of court cases that government had to make new laws around it.

[radiant marlin]

poor girl 🙁

[hoary frost]

[tardy smelt]

check pinned

[waxen musk]

I hate how I'm the type of person to not really feel the sting of bad news until it affects people I care about. Same applies to NewJeans so yeah this stuff hurts even though I've heard it all before.

Not sure if should I assume that's how most people are.

[tardy smelt]

i mean that's human, you'll be depressed 24/7 if you let everyone's problems affect you

[short laurel]

i was really mad when i read about gfriend and loona. i've calm down comparatively. gotten numb. but still it made me mad. just not as much as it used to.

[sweet sparrow]

[dry atlas]

ashbash empathy levels are high

[hoary frost]

i was told by armies that newjeans was living like privileged princesses

[dry atlas]

stay away from the drama if needed, look out for yourself

[lucid yarrow]

yeah time for bts to sign with ador not

[hoary frost]

thats shocking but im not surprised. look. bighit ent (not hybe) acquisition cost put source music in huge debt and covid hit right away. hybe also gave them ambitious girl group project which was dragged out. they were prob minimizing costs of training in every area. poor those girls

[short laurel]

idk if mel will not like this comment but read this. it explains that side's mindset.

[waxen musk]

lol I always make it sound like I'm in a bad way from all this stuff (from the way people keep responding to me). Please understand I'm really just fine. Maybe I should stop saying these things if I don't want these responses lol.

[hoary frost]

yeah, no brainer

wow jiwon stepped down? he is worthless politician in my eyes. he is not the worst out of all but lackeys who dont have their own opinion and behave to appraise others who stand above them are the worst

someone had to take responsibility. they will either appoint bighit ceo as hybe ceo or another bsh's yes-man.

[dry atlas]

i like it

good comment

[waxen musk]

I don't have any understanding of what will and could change with PJW's resignation. I don't know what to expect.

[short laurel]

with PJW out. the ceo who is known for destorying industries is out.

[hoary frost]

nothing. it is a system that needs to be changed and jiwon is not responsible for such system

the fact that those so called independent labels have close to zero independence is the main problem

[acoustic valve]

sure, the system is wrong, but pjw is also just as complicit in this scenario, even if he wasn't imo the main instigator; that would be the man that actually controls most of the shares; bang shit hyuk

[hoary frost]

the fact that bang shihyuk is greedy enough to be involved in every single so called independent label is the problem. he should just focus on fishing with scooter braun

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1816007404557066445?t=L56rn8ijL6wiMGYXrNvwvA&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

[Exclusive Interview] Cockroach-Infested Dorms, Forced to Quit School... NewJeans Parents Speak Out
https://t.co/MpgaYVpfwx
Reporters Jeong Hee-won and Jeon Kyung-woo

“NewJeans will stay with ADOR until the end. Please stop HYBE's malicious reverse viral tactics.”

The parents

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 7:07 AM

[hoary frost]

yeah, true

[dry atlas]

eng if you need

[hoary frost]

im glad parents are saying that newjeans is staying with ador. they cant afford contract termination and legal battle with hybe. they are staying yet hybe keeps attacking the girls and that paints hybe really bad

trainees are really disposable for these companies. especially treating minors like this is insane.

[dry atlas]

yeah i think that's one part that differs from 5050

[ocean arch]

Fk my vpn is acting up can't even open twitter

[twin cypress]

The problem isn’t only staying with ador until the end the problem is that at the first chance they’ll get rid of mhj and then put some bozos from hybe there to ruin newjeans

[hoary frost]

and best part for public. they know nj is not leaving and they remain hybe's assist, so hybe's attacks will be million times more criticized.

[twin cypress]

Mhj is the reason that the parents feel comfortable with the members being ador so no mhj there means no ador

[acoustic valve]

one of the main reasons 5050's case got thrown out at court was that the court stated they didn't make any efforts to make peace with the company. The parents here are clearly trying, what if peace still can't be found? They already have a far stronger case than 5050 to null contract imo

[hoary frost]

its the fact that mhj treats them and like humans unlike hybe who even refuses to communicate with parents. this is not russian figure skating camp, communication wth parents when ur training literal 10-15 years olds should be basic rule. honestly it is bc there are not appropriate laws that protects minors or idols and companies always hinder for such laws to be passed

ador and parents are not asking special treatment but they want to be left alone. whats so hard about this? this whole issue and the reason why mhj's contract negotiation failed is bc hybe cant just stop misbehaving

[acoustic valve]

sums up my feelings, I'll drive https://x.com/PoppyKPoppie/status/1816016794303570206

PoppyKPoppie (@PoppyKPoppie) on X

learning about minji’s trainee struggles makes me want to really get those trucks not to protest but to ram that building down.

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 7:45 AM

[tardy smelt]

scorched earth

[lucid yarrow]

if u read the lastest chapter of chainsawman u know the rage

[arctic sky]

send tanks

[dry atlas]

*x https://x.com/mymomoty/status/1816008134189817863

[harsh dove]

@mymomoty <t:1721805053:d>

[dry atlas]

this hits harder now

[bold sundial]

oof I am crying after reading the whole story

[short laurel]

new chapters? i thought they were done with series after ||makima reborn||

[tardy smelt]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1816019778584355050

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1721807829:d>

🧸: Do I like the trainee life? ... Well, I'm not sure, but after I met my members, I think I felt much more at ease and happy compared to before.

[ripe mango]

saw that again today and I kinda teared up ngl

[quick wadi]

Relive minji odoriko

[hoary frost]

no wonder Hybe had no idea how close MHJ was to NewJeans' parents. They didn't even let the parents visit her dorm for a year when she first joined. That's their typical practice

[acoustic valve]

new hybe ceo; it's their current cso. same story, new faces.
need to keep taking them down until none is left https://x.com/yonhaptweet/status/1816019984457547935

연합뉴스 (@yonhaptweet) on X

[1보] 박지원 하이브 대표 사임…새 대표에 이재상 CSO 내정
https://t.co/XSODCgvXjh

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 7:57 AM

[lucid yarrow]

what did this guy do?

[acoustic valve]

well, he was their chief security officer. Beyond just being a part of the Hybe C-suite that's causing all this shit to happen, he probably also had a personal hand in directing the Ador audit and illegally acquiring personal communications and their subsequent leaking to the press

i guess he's still the CSO for now

[tardy smelt]

so same shit, different smell

[cerulean sail]

Plot Twist, Hanni's mother is twice the Yapper Hanni is, and is still typing her story as we speak

[acoustic valve]

I just know Hanni's memoir when her contract with Hybe is over will sell millions

[short laurel]

https://x.com/desainere/status/1816021103351062937 he's in ador executive?

Jaci (@desainere) on X

The hybe america guy and ador new person no?

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 8:02 AM

[lucid yarrow]

fantastic.....

[short laurel]

who are the 2 moles hybe added to ador ?

[orchid field]

i am beyond heartbroken

[waxen musk]

wow yeah same wasnt expecting me to respond so strongly to something ive seen so much before

[snow turtle]

ODORIKO DAY 1 SUPREMACY

[dry atlas]

yeah he's on ador's board

CHRO, CSO, CFO

[waxen musk]

i'm so glad the members have each other with video proof of them just loving each other constantly. glad they have their supportive parents with videos from the vlogs showing they're some of the nicest people ive ever seen. glad they have supportive team at ador with videos showing them celebrating wins and birthdays. glad mhj is mentioned and loved by the girls and talked about all the time in a positive manner. they're so lucky to have all this support around them.

[snow turtle]

[swift spire]

gosh i am tearing up rn… all the hardships they made our girls go thru all this time… after knowing all of this information i feel even more thankful to mhj for being the only person to help them and treat them right. it really shows how much she cares about them and their wellbeing

[waxen musk]

i'm guessing the reporters only spoke to korean speakers. i'm assuming hanni's mother and father doesn't speak much korean at all.

[vapid bronze]

Hybe really is a bum, holy fuck.

[snow turtle]

whatever NewJeans, NewJeans parents and MHJ says, i follow
i stand with them till the end

[dry atlas]

minji doing part time work already during their break

[orchid field]

same, i will die on this fucking hill

[outer bone]

What was his involvement with nj cause i haven’t really heard of him

[short laurel]

yea "the parents interviewed stated that “Hanni’s mother, who is in Australia, holds the same view. There are more scary stories, but we’ll stop here. The ones who have been consistently attacking first are HYBE. We want this fight to end.”

[vapid bronze]

We will win the battle and the war

[short laurel]

remember. there are more stories to tell

[lucid yarrow]

wait he on the board so MHJ at least talk with him maybe just maybe he stop the crap or not....

[waxen musk]

oh i missed that bit. dont know why they stop with the scary stories. let it all out.

[swift spire]

i am so glad and happy that the girls have each other, they really were born to be together and thanks to mhj they got to be together. I cant imagine newjeans being anybody else except these 5 girls.

[outer bone]

I just saw the stuff Minjis mom said ab the dorms and I’m sick Ik gfriend was bringing in good money they could’ve had a better dorm these mfs STINGYYY omg

[short laurel]

he is one of the people hybe shoved in ador's board to be against MHJ after the injection court case.

[acoustic valve]

try to look on the bright side; we only know about all this now because the girls survived and now have a healthy environment to thrive in.
If the girls never joined Ador and found the success and happiness they have now, this would all just be buried as another one of the countless tales of abuse and wasted effort that plagues the industry and never sees the light of day because they're all nobody trainees. I'm sure most of the ex-trainees at SoMu have similar stories

[vapid bronze]

What you said, let hybe crash out

[outer bone]

Oh ew

[snow turtle]

what a great day to be a minji stan

[mild mist]

Minji's mam MVP

We should probably get some :mhj: emotes

[dry atlas]

~t https://x.com/tikkitokki22/status/1805990576560758976?t=ZzO_LGgpwtvtKq_IOT0NZQ&s=19

[narrow seal]

240626 tikkitokki22 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/tikkitokki22/status/1805990576560758976
🥹#NewJeans #Minji #민지

[tardy smelt]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1807796231890194889

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1719847183:d>

🧸 If I become a university professor... But I also wanted to study psychology. Hmm... This is kind of a deep topic all of a sudden... Hmm... I'm still young now, of course, but when I was even younger, I was really curious about the psychology of the adults around me. So I wanted to study psychology. There were so many things I didn't understand back then, so I wanted to learn about it. Even now, if I get the chance, someday, in the future, in the distant future, I still want to study it.

240701 #Minji Phoning live

[bold sundial]

Hmmm, I can't sleep now

[orchid field]

allkpop comments being braindead as usual smh

[short laurel]

ahh "it happens to my idol i get mad but it happens to your idol it's normal in industry" kinda comments

[orchid field]

0 compassion, 0 morals

[mild mist]

Just like their articles then

🥁

Off topic slightly: please don't read allkpop, it's daily mail level gutter press

[orchid field]

tmikpop too

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/newjiram/status/1816021545518588220

nil 𝜗𝜚 (@newjiram) on X

xportsnews, the same news outlet that Hybe reports most of their exclusive articles to, just released an article comparing blackpink’s dorm with roaches to NewJeans’ living conditions to minimize what they experienced as trainees 😕

when i tell y’all, HYBE’s media play is deep…

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 8:04 AM

[sleek crest]

the comments i see on any posts related fumes me

[steep torrent]

*x -c https://x.com/prominjis/status/1680848091459747840?s=46
she deserves all the sleep in the world

[harsh dove]

@prominjis <t:1689580388:d>

the way i can barely reach 8 hours and there’s minji with 15 hours of sleep

[tardy smelt]

it's hilarious, the karma will only get sweeter

[opaque torrent]

as a former ARMY, i know its frustrating whenever bts members talk about their struggle, there are always antis who show up to undermine their experience and argue us that 'actually bts members grew up privileged as fuck'. to see ARMYs doing that now...

[ashen slate]

I mean bts does suffered a lot in early era

But that’s not the excuses for those braindead fanbase attacking NewJeans

[snow turtle]

fame corrupted them

[orchid field]

yeah it's idiotic to normalize terrible living conditions

just because a certain group started off with terrible conditions does not make it okay for somebody else to go through it.

[cinder verge]

has anything important come up since newjeans' parents interviews

[tardy smelt]

replacement ceo announced, that's it

[cinder verge]

fuck hybe btw

[ashen slate]

I really wish bang seehuh get diabetes or something

So he can care about his own health condition sht instead of setting up newjeans and mhj

[opaque torrent]

let's not

no fatphobia, no ableist rhetoric

[dry atlas]

someone do that again

Please

[ashen slate]

She shared my reels, and I will do everything to support an brave CEO who shared my REELS

I DONT GIVE A HYBE!

[sleek crest]

lmaoo

[dry atlas]

UPDATE

[snow turtle]

oh no

[dry atlas]

https://www.etnews.com/20240724000335

[snow turtle]

[tardy smelt]

shit's going down

[dry atlas]

man it really is season 2

updates by the hour

[tardy smelt]

building up to the season finale

[snow turtle]

cant wait for MHJ second win

[valid sierra]

bro its criminal complaint, shts bout to be a lot messier

[tardy smelt]

season 2 > season 1 honestly, banger drama

[orchid field]

wore my mhj hat to work today

[opaque torrent]

she rly did went thru a character arc

[tardy smelt]

i love how MHJ has completely claimed that hat as her brand

iconic, really

[orchid field]

when i went to newera they had it on display out front, surely they knew what was going down

[opaque torrent]

MHJ is coming back to show us more colors and charms

[dry atlas]

or yk ohtani

lmao

[orchid field]

i dont follow baseball i had know idea he plays for la dodgers LOL

[tardy smelt]

netflix kr getting their writing material for free

[quick wadi]

Dodgers are really popular regardless

And good

[ocean arch]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[waxen musk]

Oh wow it's actually started with the charges against Hybe. Feels like the beginning of things despite the long past few months.

[dry atlas]

yea im glad

we've been seeing "we will take action, we will press charges, this is illegal, etc" in ador press releases but nothing until now

[quick wadi]

mhj stand on business 💯

Team ADOR all the way

[ashen slate]

Game of thrones

[tardy smelt]

NJ on break so she's diverted all efforts to resolving this

[acoustic valve]

Hybe can afford to keep throwing suits out because they can win just by wearing the other side out, doesn't matter however low the actual chances of success are. MHJ can't afford shit and her lawyers would never suggest a suit unless there's actual merit and a decent chance of success.

Assuming her lawyers are acting ethically and in her best interests

[waxen musk]

There's a Lids near me and I didn't go in there but I assume they have the hat. Next time I go to the shops I'm getting one. Just to confirm this is the hat, right?

[leaden pawn]

its not

its from a brand called 47 or something

[orchid field]

mhj did not wear a new era, but the 9forty model in this colorway looks similar to the one she wears

[waxen musk]

Oh ok I haven't looked properly yet. I just saw it quickly.

[dry atlas]

i still believe she just wore a MLB brand from korea

not new era

[waxen musk]

Just remembered there was shop nearby and looked only in 2 minutes and that's all. Need the specific one lol.

[quick wadi]

It’s 47

The difference is just hat shape though so any LA hat will get you the same experience

[waxen musk]

This one?

[ashen slate]

There were tons of guys cosplaying mhj in fanmeetin

[waxen musk]

Oh nice it's reduced from £28 to £14, too!

[dry atlas]

is the logo visible in pics?

[ashen slate]

Hybe killer suits

[opaque torrent]

i can't give up my san diego roots even for mhj

[waxen musk]

What do you mean, in pics of MHJ?

[unreal stream]

Just make sure it’s not fitted

[ashen slate]

$15 in US

[waxen musk]

I've never bought a hat but I'm going bald so I might as well start now.

[dry atlas]

yeah the 47 logo

[ashen slate]

Just search 47brand hat

[waxen musk]

https://www.lids.co.uk/en/mlb/los-angeles-dodgers/los-angeles-dodgers-47-cold-zone-mvp-cap/o-3487+t-47332133+p-5603654671+z-7-2255076227?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r2c2:po-8
Just checking it's this one yeah?

Nice didn't expect to have a shop selling US MLB hats like 15 mins away from me. Glad I remembered.

Oh wtf the sale ends in 14 hours!

Anyway I'm getting way off topic. Sorry.

[sleek crest]

bless ador

[snow turtle]

i just bought the newwest one, looks cooler

[leaden pawn]

https://www.zalando.no/47-los-angeles-dodgers-clean-up-unisex-cap-royal-47b54q06z-k11.html i have this one, it looks very bright in the pictures here but is closer to a navy color, pretty sure its the correct one. loose fit

[hoary frost]

is it mhj's lawsuit or ador's

[waxen musk]

"ADOR said"

"Min Heejin and others took..."

I dunno but I assume ADOR. The translated language isn't clear enough.

[dry wind]

Such enthralling drama

[snow turtle]

what the FUCK

[sleek crest]

what

[waxen musk]

I keep saying I still expect album in the latter half of the year since ADOR hasn't said otherwise but MHJ is going to be ridiculously busy I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't have enough time to be happy with her work on the next project.

[quick wadi]

Hello planetarian

[wet jewel]

bye

[quick wadi]

so, I’ve noticed a common pattern about your past comments over the past few weeks or so

that’s just not okay

you’re weird

[snow turtle]

[waxen musk]

Just want to list this out because it looks good:

• obstruction of business
• unauthorized access to electronic records
• violation of the Act on Promotion of Information and Communications Network Utilization
• violation of the Information Protection (including illegal access to the network)
• defamation under the same act

[valid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/solid-snake-salute-gif-24255323

[acoustic valve]

they've been weird for months, i woulda banned ages ago

[quick wadi]

shh let me cook jam. I been keeping tab ☺️

[dry atlas]

hey jam did you see your theqoo debut

or was it only in pannchoa i forgot

[acoustic valve]

huh, no and i dont wanna know

[waxen musk]

You don't wanna know but show me lol

[snow turtle]

last time someone on this server had a debut, their twitter account got banned

[dry atlas]

tbh idk if it's even jam's x account

[swift spire]

pls ban that weirdo

[quick wadi]

@grim shell I don’t know what you gain from sharing your comments, clearly you’re seeking some form of validation or attention from people. and if you’re not, I genuinely do not see how you think that THIS is okay to share after all the drama that’s been released surrounding them, after everything they been through in the past months you’re sitting here on your desk typing away criticizing the members when you probably can’t even move a muscle or sing a single note. I also don’t know why we kept you here, we should have gotten you out a while ago. If you disagree with me, and you probably are going to defend yourself with “on im just being critical! Im a really a fan!” This is not the place for you, take yourself to Reddit, there’s many kpoppers there that are just like you

[dry atlas]

the last one lol

[sweet sparrow]

[wet jewel]

[snow turtle]

"trash" LMAO

[wet jewel]

they were typing

[snow turtle]

savage comment

[quick wadi]

and now they’re not

[sweet sparrow]

good job jam

[wet jewel]

damn

[waxen musk]

English translation: https://x.com/juantokki/status/1816045331727147353

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

"Illegal Acquisition and Leak of Messages" Ador's Min Hee-jin Files Lawsuit Against Five HYBE Executives Including Park Ji-won [Full Statement]
https://t.co/k7vcj10TFY
Reporter Lee Yuna of Sports Chosun

Ador's CEO Min Hee-jin has filed a lawsuit against five HYBE executives,

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 9:38 AM

[acoustic valve]

no idea who that is, but they ate

[ashen slate]

Newjeans really said:”I made that btch famous”

[wet jewel]

i was just looking at this profile

[quick wadi]

neither do I but they follow tokkitim.

+1

[swift spire]

🙌

[ashen slate]

Is that some British band or something

[dry wind]

I need a subthread on the njscord vs planetarian happenings now

[ashen slate]

Accusing nwjns for plagiarism

[wet jewel]

tim i think they left

[quick wadi]

I banned them

[wet jewel]

o no wonder they didnt have roles anymore

[waxen musk]

How is that bullying?!

[dry atlas]

this thread is nice

i can just lock it whenever

and it wont spill in njchat

[sweet sparrow]

[waxen musk]

New content. Perfect time to lock.

[dry atlas]

hey welcome

[wet jewel]

no problem

[swift spire]

i found my home here too

[ashen slate]

Welcome home

[tardy smelt]

same, this is my NJ outlet

[ashen slate]

Be4 I joined this channel I really think that everyone hate 5 little girls💀

For those “parasiting elder group “ bull shit

[dry wind]

is the consensus against njs? I have no perception of the drama outside of the news articles (usually translated by tokkis lol)

[waxen musk]

Without this place I have no idea I think I'd probably start believing all the BS because it's pretty common in the English speaking places online and end up not liking MHJ and ADOR. To think that could have happened without you guys is horrible.

[short laurel]

1st comment is so polite.

[dry wind]

public opinion seems slightly in favor of mhj aswell (imo). atleast from what ive collected/seen overtime. but im open to learning otherwise haha.

[waxen musk]

Yeah KR public at least.

[dry wind]

an interesting case

[opaque torrent]

incel space they are not but they are not our target demo

[ashen slate]

All the trend was like”boowoo xxx pave the way”

[dry wind]

I see I see

[short laurel]

LSM started kpop and hence LSM paved the way.

[dry wind]

Lololol

[ashen slate]

“Oh they only get famous cuz hybe pay for the stream”

[dry wind]

an odd way of thinking about a music genre

[short laurel]

in all honestly 1st time many people heard of kpop was through gangnam style. so it's Psy paved the way

[heady harbor]

let us play rock paper scissors to see if you lock it or not

[acoustic valve]

depends who you ask but generally (broad brush strokes):
K-Media: bought off by hybe; pro-hybe
K-GP: Hybe sucks
K-fans: Hybe sucks, but more
I-Kpop fans: ador sucks, mostly because bts fans are overwhelming in numbers so they set narrative.
I-Media: "What?"
I-GP: "Who?"

[dry atlas]

who you

[daring ingot]

newjeans woulda been famous without hybe easily imo

[dry wind]

taking notes

[ashen slate]

Can’t agree more

[dry wind]

kind of what I was thinking

[quick wadi]

I was going to advertise this discord to my twt but that might be as bad as an idea as it’s a good one

[dry atlas]

i want the active tokkitwt here

[quick wadi]

Juan and poppy are both in here

[short laurel]

if without hybe initially NJ would be small but over time they would've easily become top group. afterall MHJ just has that many big connections and talent and know how of how everything works.

[quick wadi]

just not active

[dry atlas]

ah sad

[quick wadi]

I’m sure others are too

[ashen slate]

Nobody can resist the TRUE MUSIC that’s why nwjns are out standing not because of hybe or xxx pave the way

[dry wind]

I think njs wouldn't be njs w/o hybe being in the picture somehow but that fact doesn't change the fact that njs is like wicked awesome

their debut was like the opposite of nugudom LMFAO which is what drew people in imho and got the ball rolling

[ashen slate]

Yeah w/o hybe there will be no newjeans probably but the success of newjeans is newjeans not hybe, my opinion honestly

[dry wind]

yeah I agree it's not the hybe namesake at all that's bolstered them

[snow turtle]

you cooked with this message

[ashen slate]

I mean look at other groups under hybe after bts

[dry wind]

i think with where they are now a universe exists where njs & ador divorces from hybe and newjeans stays exactly the same / likely better hahaha, atleast less burdened

[ashen slate]

No offense but …yeah yall k , at least for the streams

[dry wind]

ayyy I get anti fragile sometimes

[ashen slate]

Me 2

[dry wind]

lololol. but I'm not exactly smarter

[hoary frost]

imo they would've blown up regardless. mhj's name is huge in the kpop industry and would have pulled funding somehow. In a different universe MHJ woudlve stayed in SM with LSM giving her a separate company. There's a reason why Hybe was mediaplaying lesserafims' debut with MHJ's name for the group

[ashen slate]

But I mean like the overall, the popularity and

[dry wind]

I truly do gravitate towards the music tho w kpop and the music has led me here

[ashen slate]

Yeah just say nwjns better out loud

[ocean arch]

Remember bsh wanted mhj not the other way around

[dry wind]

yeah I do remember the buzz about newjeans before they debuted was that it was a mhj group

[waxen musk]

MHJ alone has enough power to pull people to check out her stuff even if she was independent. I think they'd have been fine from the start without Hybe. Ofc Hybe helped so much though with their popularity.

[short laurel]

lsfm before debut marketing had mhj. illit before debut marketing had lsfm and nj. nj before debut marketing had nothing but rumors.

[quick wadi]

NewJeans Never Die

[dry wind]

I also remember those cool tokki/bunny billboards.. they've always had such good marketing

[placid rose]

this is what introduced me to nj ngl

[ashen slate]

Yeah ceo park once made a promise to the members and mhj that the first female group in hybe was going to be nwjns

[short laurel]

yup her reach is huge. i-roaches doesn't understand it just how big MHJ is.

[dry atlas]

I'll ping everyone if i see planetarian on reddit complaining about njcord

[dry wind]

the fact did catch my eye as well admittedly hahaha

[ashen slate]

But due to some “unavoidable circumstances “

[quick wadi]

PLEASE

[dry wind]

her brain has proven to produce cool art

[placid rose]

we have a hybe fan in this chat moments ago?

[waxen musk]

I'm sad I didn't see their messages really/ignored them

[placid rose]

planetarian nugu

[ashen slate]

Imagine Stan for hybe

[short laurel]

even now people love her work with SNSD. that's 2nd gen group.

[snow turtle]

no its just an akgae, said that minji needs vocal lessons

[short laurel]

entire hybe groups need lessons and appropriate rest. or their voices gonna be ruined. we already seeing it to some extent.

NJ gets proper rest and vocal training.

[placid rose]

her voice doesnt appeal to him as a jpop fan, he wants minji to have a high pitched voice ig

[ashen slate]

We not hybe we ador unfortunately

[dry wind]

yeah I felt really bad seeing that video of sakura (I think) in her akb48 days and then just obviously not being given the proper care now

[ocean arch]

Since the fact that Dani was a former yg trainee is out,time to practice showoff her rapping skill

[ashen slate]

Like minji said on live

[waxen musk]

Have you seen her freestyle...

[dry wind]

omg Dani was a yg trainee?? that tracks pretty well imo LOL

[ocean arch]

-vanessakang

[tall dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1074658639534632960/1212368412714471464/vk.mp4

[short laurel]

it's really sad. so many other senior idols still take training and are showing improvement even now. then there's her. no hate but hybe really ruined her voice.

[ashen slate]

Yeah she came to hybe in 2020

[waxen musk]

i meant freestyle rap on phoning but whatever another excuse to listen to this masterpiece

[ashen slate]

Better than drake I d say

[dry wind]

crazy to see such different conditions under the "same" company

[ashen slate]

I remember she said she can’t actually rap on that live

[quick wadi]

I cooked him

do not worry

[ocean arch]

I think I missed that one .can u drop me the link pls ?

[waxen musk]

I have no idea which Phoning live that was but I'll find it eventually, hopefully.

~tt https://www.tiktok.com/@mjrinn/video/7335774915343273221

[narrow seal]

240215 mjrinn TikTok Update
https://www.tiktok.com/@mjrinn/video/7335774915343273221
rap Danielle 😎 #danielle #newjeans

[waxen musk]

Wasn't that hard to find lol
She's "really good"...

wait why did it post twice

[ocean arch]

Mc Dani in the house

[waxen musk]

Wait I went on /r/kpop JUST FOR NEW RELEASES again but noticed there isn't a thread on MHJ's new lawsuit. SERIOUSLY reddit you post everything else that happened

[sleek crest]

what a way to cheer me up

[jolly junco]

i never go to reddit just for the sake of my mental health

stopped using tiktok too since May just because there are too many yellow dumbo stan

i'm happy being here with positive energy and discussion about NJ

[tardy smelt]

pretty sure someone posted a screenshot of the translated email from yesterday's response, but i couldn't find the post this morning lol

[waxen musk]

Yeah nothing about the lawsuit from today.

I only go on reddit because best place just to see a list of new MVs. I avoid the comments like the plague apart from yesterday where I couldn't help myself but only saw 10 comments then. Even 10 was enough lol.

[arctic sky]

Have u checked the mega thread? its being merged there i think lol

[waxen musk]

Oh you're right. I went on there before I saw the megathread. I will NOT be going in there to even check that.

[tardy smelt]

i'll be your eyes in there

latest update is that HYBE responded to the lawsuit MHJ filed

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/109/0005122871

[waxen musk]

Gosh it's never ending with the back and forth all day and night long.

[dry atlas]

BANA CEO most probably

[arctic sky]

https://x.com/koreaboo/status/1816059517127610544?s=46

Koreaboo (@Koreaboo) on X

HYBE Hits Back At Min Hee Jin's Accusations With Their Own Scathing Lawsuit
https://t.co/YBIVOyzx3j

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 10:35 AM

Better translation

[south vale]

.

[hoary frost]

"two vice presidents submitted information assets with their consent. we didn't get them coercively"

https://x.com/NJBUBBLEGUM/status/1816033482466025533

. (@NJBUBBLEGUM) on X

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 8:51 AM

[dry atlas]

hahaha the new ceo everyone

that's lee jae sang

[hoary frost]

yup... they're just rotating the same people in the Hybe circlejerk

[snow turtle]

*tt https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYv8xfh2/

[harsh dove]

@eny🐻

[swift spire]

when i first heard about the fued in april i started going on reddit to read about it and IT WAS SCARY there. i was almost convinced mhj was evil ngl i felt so alone and isolated. so glad i found njcord

[dry atlas]

lmao

[timber shell]

same here, even i was in knet and everyone would attack mhj, NJ as traitor(till press con) feeling much confused and decided to stay in njcord

[dry atlas]

hybe at it already

[hoary frost]

im shocked that kpop stans do not know that trainee contracts exist. unless company themselves terminate contract or drops them willingly if they dont make cut, trainees are not free. even if minji's parents wanted to get her away from source, they would have to pay all training cost back

kpop stans have such a tendency of victim blaming.

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[jolly junco]

The never ending saga of ADOR vs HYBE

Why wont they just settle all of this in court?

Why they need to make such a big noise in public

But i love the way ADOR wait until newjeans are on their very well deserved break/rest before launching an attack to hybe

[snow turtle]

omg i love bts so much omg

[jolly junco]

This cult fandom makes me sick, i have deleted all of bts related from my computer and phone and spotify and youtube

Everywhereeeee

I know its not the idols fault, but the way they let their fandom behave disgust me

[sweet sparrow]

that side of army always gotta bring up bts' name everywhere

[sweet sparrow]

true

[rapid niche]

finix please dont drop any bombs.

[half goblet]

everything has to be always about their group, insufferable people

[proud flax]

[short laurel]

from kakaotalk to work email ?

[swift spire]

lmaooooo

[short laurel]

be4 presscon even njcord were cursing mhj.

[swift spire]

fr?

[short laurel]

the mediaplay was jsut that powerful.

[snow turtle]

not me

but yeah there were a lot

[short laurel]

finix was the only one on MHJ side. i wasn't here at the time. but i was confused when i read their mediaplay of blaming gfriend disbandment on her.

that hybe replay i don't get how it make sense. they've been screaming kakaotalk so much. even leaks are supposed ot be from kakaotalk. how did all that become hybe email.

[thorny gate]

guys i dont know if im on MHJ side or not

[mint plaza]

Even if ur not on mhj’s side, its sorta hard to be on hybe’s side

[thorny gate]

i heard MHJ was protecting NJ from hybe thats why MHJ creatod phoning so that NJ would not use weverse thats what ive heard

[mint plaza]

Ohhhh

[thorny gate]

yea

[mint plaza]

Can i ask why?

[short laurel]

doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong. it's a fact that hybe constantly messed with nj promotion, ignoring nj, belift video, leaking of predebut video and medical data, trainees living condition. with all these. u have ot be crazy to be on hybe side. and in this case u can't be like "i choose neither". either choose one or don't participate.

[mint plaza]

the belift video was so problematic tho fr

[short laurel]

it was.

[mint plaza]

They didn’t even double check their info (nmixx’s love me like this) and they called new jeans the thoughts of adults

[short laurel]

all the proofs were all incorrect.

[timber shell]

every single claim's proof in that video was mostly untrustable

[thorny gate]

hmmm im lil educated about the issue cuz i think MHJ did the right thing on exposing hybe and protect NJ but i suspected MHJ is just using NJ as shields from HYBE

[viral nexus]

hi guys

[viral nexus]

😮

[short laurel]

they claimed "NJ copied these". and all of those "original" are in reality inspired or copied from MHJ's own work

[mint plaza]

hiii

[mint plaza]

i know right!

[viral nexus]

what is going on with HYBE rn.. lsrfm, illit nwjns ans fromis dont deserve hybe.. no gg deserves hybe its so frustrating

[timber shell]

that skirt thing iirc?

[hoary frost]

wait what happened towards nmixx?

[mint plaza]

i have a feeling bang si hyuk is highly misogynistic.

[timber shell]

belieft claims that ditto's choreo copied nmixx one

[mint plaza]

So basically belift said that nwjns ditto choreo copied nmixx love me like this chorea when love me like this was released after ditto

[hoary frost]

Yikes.

[viral nexus]

they deleted that video right

[hoary frost]

I love both groups. belift, that's so not cool of you.

[timber shell]

not yet

[thorny gate]

yea i litterally loved hybe before because of what ive heard HYBE treated they're idols equally unlike other companies but here we are im not trusting HYBE anymore IJJBOL

[viral nexus]

fr

[short laurel]

tennis outfit from blackpink. blackpink staff refuted the claim as both were not even same. tennis outfit idea came from MHJ from 2nd gen, school outfit of enhypn orwhatever the name was. original work still from MHJ from SM days. the hanbok their proof were al edited.

[mint plaza]

But, park Jiwon quit!

[thorny gate]

that dosent make any sense

[mint plaza]

but he was replaced with another bad dude..

[mint plaza]

I know right like they couldn’t spare 5 minutes to fact check their claims??

[short laurel]

that's a lie. a big lie. BTS never had break ocne they start getting big. even now their artists never get breaks.
BTS 5 years on tour with 1 member with shoulder injury. how is it treating idols well ?

[viral nexus]

soumu releasing the nteam videos and the 7 trainees medical records is foul af they should delete those

[short laurel]

yet bts own fandom defend hybe for this and cover this up

[thorny gate]

thats what im thinking right now

[mint plaza]

Omg did u see that people were giving wonhee hate comments because she was “copying hyein’s injury”????

[viral nexus]

thats wild.. im both fans of illit and nj and that is so wrong.. even coups' and beomgyu has leg injuries although coups' knee injury had it cominh for awhile

[short laurel]

people were mad at hybe cuz no one was helping her when she was using her stick thing i forgot the name wrogn and was visibly unconformable. that's all the hate i saw.
if tokkies were hating on her than those are bad guys.

[mint plaza]

i feel so bad for coups fr’

[thorny gate]

Really? Sorry I never heard about that i was not fan of bts but thank you for the info i was actually stupid for this all time

[thorny gate]

Thats so sad

[sterile panther]

[viral nexus]

ive noticed ppl were mad at hybe becuz they didint taught her the proper use of the stick thing but i did saw some tokkies hating on her, its honestly sad

[short laurel]

there are alot more issues but army themselves cover it all up. it's almsot like they are fan of hybe and not bts members.

[thorny gate]

yea it was so funny

[short laurel]

NJ fandom is big. so sadly even tokkies got bad people. there are tokkies who hate mhj still.

[thorny gate]

Now i know 😞

[viral nexus]

Tbh me personally i have no opinions with mhj i dont support her and dont hate her just neutral

[mint plaza]

I think at the beginning not a lot of people like mhj but now with everything with HYBE and the lawsuits and the press conferences, people are more positive with her.

[thorny gate]

off topic i wonder if MHJ had some a lil bit character development i was shocked when she had no shame on standing up for NJ

[mint plaza]

yeah i think maybe’

[short laurel]

mainly internationally. locally in korea. and in kpop MHJ name is huge. she has again and again given amazing work but also took on blame for bad stuff done by higher ups of SM internationally.

[dry atlas]

why would she feel ashamed for that

[viral nexus]

I see many comments despising MHJ bc when the chat got leaked with the shaman they didint like it cuz the shaman thought one trainee looked possessed😨

[dry atlas]

[thorny gate]

thats so sad no wonder Armies are the most toxic fandom fr

[mint plaza]

i think as long as new jeans supports mhj, i will too

[thorny gate]

i mean shes brave for standing up and did her best about the lawsuit

[placid rose]

fandoms who romanticise trainees living like theyre in extreme poverty competition but my opponent is the violets

[short laurel]

just remember that they are vocal minority and army themselves are fed up of those vocal haters.

sadly they dominate kpop twitter and reddit

[mint plaza]

No fandom is “toxic” its just that some have more toxic fans

[thorny gate]

yep

[dry atlas]

that's the right thing to do

[jolly junco]

New kpop stan dont know MHJ and how good she is with her work

I have known her since 2013 when f(x) released pink tape album

[placid rose]

mb bad wording

[mint plaza]

I wasn’t blaming u dont worry!!

[dry atlas]

army is toxic.

[mint plaza]

depends on the person

[viral nexus]

idk why but blinks and army literally fight so much even onces get involved

[mint plaza]

fr tho

[placid rose]

this is a peak 3rd gen moment

[jolly junco]

F(x) krystal is still a close friend of MHJ and that says a lot

[short laurel]

thing is blinks have been quite so army had no one ot hate on. so they jump on to nj. timing was bad.

[thorny gate]

off topic someone said toxic blooms are old toxic blinks idk

[rapid niche]

please do not talk about other fandoms.

[thorny gate]

im sorry what is shaman about?

[short laurel]

i've seen alot of people mhj worked with her in carrier are either close to her or full of praises of her.

[dry atlas]

please do not talk about other fandoms.

else lock thread

[thorny gate]

oops sorry mb

[rapid niche]

or else mel will lock this again.

[mint plaza]

oh ok srry

[rapid niche]

[jolly junco]

For the shaman thing, i dont know how foreigners view about this but in asia consulting about business with the likes of shaman are very normal

[short laurel]

what do we call MHJ fandom ?

[mint plaza]

Let’s come up with one!

[viral nexus]

mhj'ers😭

[placid rose]

after knowing more of minji's trainee lore, her odoriko performance hits like a truck

[errant osprey]

You cut off a head another one takes its place

[thorny gate]

Blue hat fandom?

[mint plaza]

Minnie’s?

[ocean arch]

Minhee's jeans

[mint plaza]

omg i love that

[jolly junco]

Chinese people are especially keen about this, consulting almost about everything to a shaman

[viral nexus]

fr

[jolly junco]

And as far as i know, korean root are chinese as well

I am chinese so i dont think too much about this shaman thing, but imagine my surprised when the international kpop fans keep talking about it

Yeah i think so too

[mint plaza]

Korean fans and international fans have quite different views for some reason

You know its fr when they agree tho

[dry atlas]

you can't fault them when even hybe focuses on it

[short laurel]

far east asian society is viewed as majorly no religion society after industry revolution according to internet. but humans need something to believe in. i think that's why shaman thing is so common there?

[jolly junco]

Whenever i have to open a new branch of my shop, i must discuss the date with a shaman. And choose a “good day” for that

[jolly junco]

Yeah hybe know this thats why they drive the narative that way

[ocean arch]

The location ,which direction should the shop face and shop name and so on

[jolly junco]

We dont view a shaman as a religion. But in our minds they are like a person who can cleanse the air of bad luck

[short laurel]

based on belift video. i m convinced that hybe only look at online echo chambers. they try to keep those echo chamber to their side

[jolly junco]

💯

I dont know how to explain it since english is not my first language

[short laurel]

yea i jsut mean something to look for in similar way. many in other regions look for that in religion.

like how my name's 1st initial is decided by system similar to shaman but in religion. be4 deciding my name. :v

[jolly junco]

Yeah something like that

[short laurel]

or is that pair good for marriage.

[jolly junco]

So i never thought anything bad when i saw a news about her consulting “things” with a shaman

[ocean arch]

I was named by a Buddhist monk who also does kinda like a shaman job as a side job lmao

[jolly junco]

Because thats a normal occurence in asia, especially chinese

[short laurel]

india too.

but india is more in religion.

[jolly junco]

Lol yeah i was laughing when i saw haters comment about MHJ shaman

Like wtf 🤣

[ocean arch]

Yeah because it's normal in asia lol

[jolly junco]

I think they watched the wrong drama about this shaman thing and their imagination run wild

[ocean arch]

And ppl who are laughing at shaman issue are the same one who live and die by their horoscope 💀

[jolly junco]

Aha! Horoscope! I think some of the westerners love to read about horoscope? Thats the same concepy with using shaman 🤣

[ocean arch]

At least mhj's shaman made her successful lol

[short laurel]

that ghost eraser thing in west i forgot the name. some kinda massage thing.

[ocean arch]

Ouija board?

[short laurel]

honestly. reading the shaman's meessage it looked like she is smarter than hybe's executives

[short laurel]

some massage thing.

[ocean arch]

I thought u meant message

[hoary frost]

I lost track of how many lawsuits are happening

lawyers eating good

[jolly junco]

LMAO

[jolly junco]

keep it comin'
the more the better so this case can find it answer ASAP

people are tired with their constant fighting in public using media, its better if they filed lawsuits and finish it in court

[hoary frost]

world tour is so needed to fund these lawsuits.

[short laurel]

NO to "the more the better". just 1 proper lawsuit. hybe has alot of money they can just waste on meaningless cases. MHJ doesn't it'll be MHJ who goes out of fund and end up lossing even when she's in the right. big companies do that and that's what hybe have been trying to do with so many nonsense lawsuit against her by belift and somu.

[snow turtle]

ill go to multiple world tour stops to fund ador legal team

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/bratzmioka/status/1816113325756821579?s=46&t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA

jarai ⋆.☆ (@bratzmioka) on X

auditiontwtceo on instagram after posting the statement from minji’s mother. do you think theyve faced the same issues? or do you think there have been ex trainees confessing about source 🤔

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 2:08 PM

[short laurel]

https://x.com/bratzmioka/status/1816114404984791377

jarai ⋆.☆ (@bratzmioka) on X

@SUNK1C0RE theyre basically an inside source about trainees and companies. theyve hinted at once being a trainee before i think, and a lot of confessions they get are from people passing auditions or friends of traineess or trainees themselves

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 2:13 PM

[short laurel]

hey this is another funny confession by haters. no haters tried to refute the claims. they just said "my idol had it do". i love how haters trying to hate on NJ or MHJ but end up confessing they support bullies so many times during this drama.

ooh didn't mean to reply to you ._.

[bronze jetty]

oof now the k-fandoms arguing on twitter as well 😭

[thorny gate]

That so sad tbh

[thorny gate]

my baby 😢

fuck source music

[cerulean ermine]

minji was achieved her goals to be successful and forget about the past

[thorny gate]

i know its still sad to think about it

[cerulean ermine]

yeah let's think better for her..

[thorny gate]

yep

[placid rose]

aint this one of the dispatch leaks?

[thorny gate]

yep

[short laurel]

no where it said that MHJ stole the song.all they did was leaked the video. the planning for project was done by MHJ which Somu rejected. this work is from that reject i think. idk full details. but song is credited to BANA and 250

tiktokers just making anyhting out of anything

[thorny gate]

i never actually believe it i dont know why some people on the comments said MHJ stole everything

[knotty valve]

They just are either ignorant or hate the truth lol either way it’s so dumb how they spread their lies

[short laurel]

fearnots claiming MHJ stole everything from somu. some even went as far as to say that lsfm fits during debut looked cheap and blamed it on MHJ stealing money on twitter. Thing is those "cheap fits" were all expensive designer fits.
that's how some haters are playing on internet.

[thorny gate]

ohh i see

[frozen granite]

https://x.com/allkpop/status/1816044971943977077?s=46

allkpop (@allkpop) on X

Lee Jae-Sang appointed new CEO of HYBE, replacing Park Ji-Won
https://t.co/LtOupnR8J1

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 9:37 AM

Is that true ?

[modern fog]

Delete this

[cobalt anvil]

poor minji

[short laurel]

should add that Dani worked on the lyrics too. @thorny gate

[cobalt anvil]

i was like she sounded so mature even tho she’s like just 20

[errant osprey]

Isn’t it even crazier that there are probably more people in this situation

[jolly junco]

like sistar said before, being a woman in this industry is harsh.......

[opaque torrent]

Representative Min Hee-jin proposed reconciliation and did not say much, but
The reason I took on this task was because it was the first time in my life that I had seen such harsh treatment of a single Matador. And the person behind it was a huge corporation. I believe that someone should be held accountable for this, as it was an attempt to bury a person using the media by concluding a hypothesis that lacked evidence as a confirmed fact.
Two problems can be pointed out: one is the illegality of the audit process for Adore, and the other is the illegality of the media play. If you ask who is responsible, Hive's CEO Park Ji-won and public relations manager Park Tae-hee come to mind.
In terms of criminal liability, there could be issues such as obstruction of business against Adore, defamation against CEO Min Hee-jin, and infringement of confidentiality by unauthorized access to private KakaoTalk, etc. In my opinion, this is 100 times more serious than CEO Min Hee-jin's breach of trust. seems highly likely.
Do you remember how many lawyers said from the beginning that a KakaoTalk conversation alone would not constitute a breach of trust? They pretended that there was more evidence, but in the end, that was all the evidence Hive presented at trial. If that's the case, we can't help but think that he did it even though he knew it wasn't a breach of trust.
I hope that a thorough investigation will be conducted into how this incident was initially audited and how various materials were distributed to the media.
Since they accused CEO Min Hee-jin of breach of trust, shouldn't their actions be properly evaluated? Instead of coming forward, they plan behind the scenes and try to harass people.
Isn't that a conspiracy?
Rather than talking about breach of trust, a conspiracy, or something else, let's first reveal this conspiracy.

lets hope he's correct again 🙏🏻

[copper jetty]

Who is this??

Also park ji won resigned but apparently he's still staying in hybe.

I do hope so, and I think it's more likely.

[opaque torrent]

he helped submit k-tokkis' petition of 10,000 signatures to the court

[opaque torrent]

this is to make it seem like his stepping down has nothing to do with how he mishandled the mhj situationship and it is by his own accord. hybe attempting PR for once

[copper jetty]

Lmao at "by his own accord" cause I really don't think so. He didn't resign this past few months when this started and even when hybe lost the injunction. I don't think it's by his own accord though and i really don't think hybe is fooling anyone with this aside from the yellow fans.

[short laurel]

shareholders were asking him to step down back in april may

probably pressure from shareholder increased after back to back fk up

[copper jetty]

Also I thought i heard that hybe is claiming that dispatch hacked them. That's how they got kakaotalk chats as per hybe

[copper jetty]

Yeah. That whole information being leaked to dispatch, hybe just gave MHJ a bazooka to bomb them. Hopefully it'll hit

[short laurel]

either this result in dispatch and hybe breakup. or this shows that Hybe's servers lack basic security and that they store employee's private msges in their server.

[copper jetty]

But makes me question though. Wouldn't you use work email, for work and not kk talk?

Like formalities? It is a company.

[short laurel]

bigger question is why kkt on their server. and how hybe switch from kkt to company email.

[copper jetty]

For real. Kkt would be used informally and usually for personal use like as messenger. Why was it in their server? Hybe sus.

[copper jetty]

I doubt hybe doesn't have secured servers though what with it being a conglomerate. We'll see how this pans out but this is much more favorable than the injuction hearing.

[short laurel]

Yea

Hybe dispatch breakup is good thing. Dispatch will finally release hybe sides scandals

[copper jetty]

I'm just imagining all the dating rumors that they kept locked in the vault being released one by one. SMH.

[heady gate]

wow. This forum is unlocked.

[short laurel]

U missed a full week of drama rich

[lucid yarrow]

[steep sun]

[half thicket]

[frozen granite]

https://x.com/billboard/status/1816156173021622468?s=46

billboard (@billboard) on X

HYBE Names Jason Jaesang Lee New CEO https://t.co/O75wG17k8h

Twitter · Jul 24, 2024, 4:59 PM

What does that mean??

[heady gate]

Since HYBE has a new CEO, is the stock going to recover or not? We shall see the stock performance results in a few months. FYI, HYBE earning report is on Aug 1.

[acoustic valve]

They replaced the old CEO with their current CSO, who was also the guy that was in charge of buying Hybe America, meant to takeover as SM CEO(but that failed) and then was slated to takeover as Ador CEO(failed too). Now they just putting him in the Hybe CEO role.

TLDR; nothing changed, they just putting another Bang Shit Hyuk yes-man into the CEO role for PR reasons

[heady gate]

Didn't he launch a NFT project?

[acoustic valve]

at this point I assume all of Hybe's C-suites have failed NFT projects somewhere in their CVs

unless ur talking specifically about Hybe's NFT project.... which probably? idk, nothing rly new eitherways

[heady gate]

I believe the old CEO remains at HYBE.

[short laurel]

Yea he remains

[acoustic valve]

Knowing corporate cronyism, it doesn't make much difference. He either:

1. Stays at Hybe in another cushy executive role
2. Finds another cushy executive role using Hybe capital
3. Finds another cushy executive role using Hybe connections

This is why executives all act the same way, they cover for each other and then help each other out when someone has to take the fall.

[short laurel]

May they all end up in jail for all the cruelty they put on minors

[steep torrent]

yall seen that twt with 80k likes man these people are so stupid

[twin cypress]

Newjeans’ moms if hybe continues the attacks

[orchid field]

Just saw another anti nj tiktok that had 30k likes this shit doesn’t make sense

This mf doesnt even acknowledge that hybe lost the injunction 😂

[errant osprey]

Why did bro add a kiss emoji 💀💀

[orchid field]

They thought they ate

[opaque torrent]

MHJ is the center of their world

[orchid field]

I hope they get homelandered or something 🧢

[steep torrent]

I dont even bother paying attention to any of those tiktoks people on there are actual kids

[orchid field]

You are so right i need to stop tweaking and giving them any more attention

[shut kelp]

tiktok is annoying

[mild mist]

"the decision is actually very changeable"
"I reject your reality and substitute it with my own"

[knotty valve]

Everyone is writing think pieces on every kpop Reddit sub saying minjis parents are so awful to her it’s soo annoying. Pissed me off too much.

[mild mist]

> reddit
Well there's your problem

[steep torrent]

this is just one comment on a tiktok but there are so many people just making up their own story its crazy 😭

[lethal terrace]

The twitter pieces I’ve seen are positive mostly but yeah Reddit is bad

[steep torrent]

but a lot of them on tiktok are just kids tho so cant blame them getting for believing all the misinfo out there

[lethal terrace]

I think it’s mostly young people everywhere though. If it’s more than a comment under the same account across multiple times/days it’s most likely a younger person

[steep torrent]

bouta hit 90k probably 100k by the end of the day

funny thing is there is another tweet about a kpop idol that started training even earlier but there is no one on there blaming the parents like nj so hypocritical

[lethal terrace]

Try not to take the comments too seriously. The important thing is the court proceedings. Public perception can change in a day

[mild mist]

If the fifty fifty affair has taught us anything, that is it

[steep torrent]

instead its "she was born to be an idol"

[shy schooner]

Reddit is a joke on the comments

[short lynx]

EXACTLY

[rapid niche]

do not share any predebut leaks in the server.

[hard frigate]

Some of the comments on reddit is just so dumb

[slender nacelle]

I mean its redditors what can be expected

they all acting as if the parents couldve easily just breached source contract and move to a different company or rent a seperate dorm

those redditors the type of people to tell homeless to "just buy a house bro" or "stop being poor"
as if they have no basis on reality

also consistently trying to downplay those experiences by saying "bUt oTHer trAinees hAd siMilar ConDitIOns tOo"

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[slender nacelle]

Hoping the upcoming global bear market will send hybe to 0

Then MHJ can rake in the money on all those puts and ADOR can fly

Just like CTDM and Modhaus

[modern fog]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1816277834404659637?t=kFsN1QqhYTN-p2e-iu8TCQ&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

There's a new set of Somu training videos of the girls released, this time, anonymously. PLEASE if you see them, DO NOT spread just REPORT!!! 🙏 Thank you!

Twitter · Jul 25, 2024, 1:02 AM

[timber shell]

i dont know for real but why they keep leaking those videos??

[jolly junco]

i dont know, i think ador will take the hit as well if HYBE stock getting low

she wont get as much money as she can when she is able to sell her share

[static wasp]

☠️

[jolly junco]

i dont even understand how they can still posting that video when they are literally being charged for violating privacy?

[timber shell]

ikr and they rather sueing mhj like

[tardy smelt]

tf, are they tryna make it seem like they actually got hacked or what, they're stupid asf

[dry atlas]

hahahaha yeah good point

[ocean arch]

They didn't even blur the other girls face

[modern fog]

does it appear to your timeline?

[ocean arch]

Yes the chair dance right?

[modern fog]

idk, they said it's new, and I don't want to watch it regardless

[short lynx]

LIKE WHAT???

[steep torrent]

the account deleted the vids luckily

[leaden pawn]

there's more than one unfortunately

[wind monolith]

ya i just got another one on my timeline

[dry atlas]

new dispatch dropped: https://www.dispatch.co.kr/2299744

[tardy smelt]

here we go...

[dry atlas]

i dont even understand nor do i care to

[timber shell]

wth is that another edited kakaotalk?

[waxen musk]

Waste of time

[steep torrent]

armys will have fun with that

[tiny peak]

some of it was already revealed

[steep torrent]

bunch of shaman talk lol, can they just give up on that already

[tiny peak]

yeah nothing new to me

i'm more upset about the video leaks

[steep torrent]

one of the questionable ss is from march of this year

[tiny peak]

oh wow I didn't catch that timestamp

[steep torrent]

so confused how those accounts had those leaks if its not on dispatch??

[acoustic valve]

they're not screenshots of actual chat, they're all reconstructed images of supposed text exchanges that happened. Who knows how much of it was true, the context, or how much of the texts were taken out in between to create these narratives. I know I certainly don't place a lot of trust in either Hybe or Dispatch to not deliberately misconstrue any of it, if it happened at all

[tardy smelt]

i won't lie, it's the only piece of "evidence" brought forth that makes me doubt, i do hope this is true

[steep torrent]

ohh yeah no time for the messages sent

they looked like the kakao ss mhj used

[jolly junco]

tbh it doesnt matter how many "evidence" both side throwing to the public, all that matters are the court decision

[placid rose]

opened twt for 2 minutes my frontal lobe starts to decay

[jolly junco]

they will need to submit those "evidence" to the court

[tiny peak]

i'm not going anywhere near twitter right now

[steep torrent]

*x -c https://x.com/njbubblegum/status/1816293146650894362?s=46
the dispatch reporters that leaked

[harsh dove]

@NJBUBBLEGUM <t:1721873005:d>

국민의 알 권리^^를 위해 불철주야 미성년자가 포함된 개인들의 민감정보를 퍼뜨리고 다니시는 우리 디스패치의 김지호, 박혜진 기자님들! 응원합니다!
우리도 여러분들이 네이버 기자홈에 '직접' 올리신 얼굴을 알 권리^^가 있겠죠?
김지호 기자님⬇️ 박혜진 기자님↘️

[placid rose]

like is this the effect when your faves are at military service

[jolly junco]

if those supposedly "evidence" are not from a credible sources, the court wont accept it

[tardy smelt]

only logical explanation i have is that they're spinning the story that the anonymous users gave dispatch the videos

[acoustic valve]

it literally says so in the article

[steep torrent]

like the messages being put together in those ss could be hours apart

[acoustic valve]

or their could be 50 messages in between them, these are leaks supplied to a media outlet that's clearly got a working relationship with Hybe and writes articles at their behest. They're not subject to any objective scrutiny and can be manipulated in anyway whatsoever, unlike an actual submission of evidence in court

the caveat is that they'll probably leave enough breathing room to not be sued into the ground, that's the purpose the little addendums like the note above serve; just enough plausible deniability for it to not be a clear-cut case of intentional defamation

[tardy smelt]

not doubting they're stitched together, just hoping in the real context, she's not actually talking shit about the members

[acoustic valve]

Well yeah, that's everyone. But you're probably going to have to come to terms with never getting definitive answer as to whom those remarks are about, on the assumption they were true. My suggestion is to just focus on how the members receive it.

[tardy smelt]

mhm, even if she did, i think after all the support the members have shown her throughout this entire thing, and support from fans, she appreciates them 100x more as she expressed in the second presscon - which i hope was genuine

[waxen musk]

Just focus on what you KNOW and have heard from the girls themselves

[jolly junco]

i can see that you dont trust newjeans 100%

thats okay, everyone have their own opinion. And i respect that

[tardy smelt]

a'ight, that's not true

[waxen musk]

This isn't the first time messages have been leaked which reporters claim are MHJ talking negatively about the members and yet still after those leaks the members continue to support her. Nothing will change with this.

[ocean arch]

Why do u sound like lily?

[arctic sky]

wot there's another video got leaked?

[waxen musk]

I don't need to see them but what are the contents of those videos? Just more dances?

[arctic sky]

yea same

[strange dove]

It's 4 more dance videos

[ocean arch]

I saw one

[arctic sky]

wtf those ppl are sick

[waxen musk]

What do the people leaking these think they're going to achieve?

[arctic sky]

if anyone still got the link can send through dm

[dry atlas]

that source/hybe were "hacked" and they didnt leak it themselves

air quotes

[wind monolith]

lmfao if source/hybe was hacked y is it only new jeans stuff getting leaked

hybe coming up with dumb excuses

[marble cape]

i think theyre trying to persuade the gp with these constructed msgs but i doubt it will happen

[lyric geyser]

Can someone fill me up with key points on what’s happening?

[tardy smelt]

i'm not actually deeply troubled by the messages, i'm level-headed and have complete faith in the members' support, but i can't control my doubts towards MHJ's sincerity and appreciation for the members behind closed doors in the past

[marble cape]

also i heard they leaked more trainee videos which makes no sense lool

[waxen musk]

I know it makes sense to doubt things after seeing stuff like that but just understand that the context of her messages are lost because of how they are constructed and therefore you might as well ignore them and treat them as fake.

[tardy smelt]

yeah ofc

[arctic sky]

those chats are clearly fakes

[tardy smelt]

the mind lingers tho, can't be helped, didn't think about the messages before they were brought up again today, and i feel the same about them as when they were first revealed

[waxen musk]

Believe me, I'm the one to doubt everything all the time. I'll be the first to go against MHJ if she has does anything actually harmful to the girls.

[acoustic valve]

as an example, It's like any close and complicated relationships such as siblings; conflicts often arise and many situations taken out of context can be damning, but as a whole it's normal to also understand that you have a close and loving relationship.

I certainly wouldn't appreciate it if an outsider kept telling me how angry they are at my sister for slapping me once years ago and that I should also still be angry. - I rightfully think I understand my close relationships better than outsiders and don't enjoy people trying to impose their personal biases onto them. It's no different for anyone, such as the girls and their families.

tldr; why are people conjuring reasons to be mad on the girls' behalf when they're not? You ain't helping them, but that only matters if you actually cared about the girls and their feelings. They have every opportunity and incentive to drop MHJ right now, they ain't doing so for a reason. People forget that all the uncertainty and issues surrounding Ador could theoretically be fixed if the girls came out and said "We don't trust in MHJ anymore", she'd be fired within the day by Hybe. At the very least, if they had misgivings they and their families wouldn't be putting their own heads on the chopping block to help defend her.

[waxen musk]

oh god lol

[tardy smelt]

put on my reading glasses for this one

[bold sundial]

Wow, i saw like 3 of the video, crazy not even doing pixelization for it

[waxen musk]

Sorry that was my automatic response to seeing such a large essay appear in from of me.

[arctic sky]

strawberry jam built different

[tardy smelt]

very true

[ocean arch]

Can somebody tldr the taro's tldr ?

[tardy smelt]

tl;dr the same length as the message

[waxen musk]

[quick wadi]

Put some respect on taroboba’s name.

Only yap I’ll read 💯

[acoustic valve]

i kinda stream of consciousness wrote that, tldr wasn't even a summary

[waxen musk]

I think ever since the beginning it's been so hard for people to understand the closeness of someone who's title is CEO and her employees and their family. Even I've said how in some circumstances that closeness can be weird and harmful for business outside of K-pop, but if anything all the praise MHJ has been getting from the girls and their parents just proved to me not to worry about it.

[tardy smelt]

but yeah, this is the crux of why i haven't turned my back on mhj based on the messages despite my doubts, relationships are complex and we won't ever have a true understanding of what they're like with each other behind closed doors, only what they've shown which has been unconditional support - it's unfair to damn her solely for this

[jolly junco]

who is lily?

[ocean arch]

From nmixx

[acoustic valve]

I've worked in environments where my relationship with the boss was like family, and in environments where I would daydream about pushing them off a cliff daily, and everything in between. Relationships are complicated, people shouldn't impose their own understanding onto others. Best is to listen, support and to provide prudent council, but telling people "I know your relationships better than you" as an outsider is always the wrong move

[waxen musk]

I've had doubts ever since learning about MHJ after getting into NewJeans but as time goes on I just have become more and more reassured and those doubts have faded. I wish the same could happen for everyone but none of this bloody stuff helps at all.

[waxen musk]

lol I just read that message in Lily's voice and you're so right.

[jolly junco]

whenever my daughter makes me very angry, and i mean very angry, i would also said things that are not appropriate for outsiders point of view. They would think "what kind of mother is that saying things like that to their own kid"

but thats my way to cope with my emotion i felt at the time. Does that mean i hate my kid? Does that mean i'm a bad person? Does that mean i dont love my kid?

You dont sugar coat you words if you want teach your kid wrong doing. So i'd like to thing that if ever MHJ leaked kkt are true, thats not a problem at all

And yes i have a daughter, for real. My own blood and flesh

[steep torrent]

hate the brainwashing comments people say tho its so annoying

[bold sundial]

Weird, I saw a leak Pic from reddit with 8 people...

[tardy smelt]

that's also my justification if they were real, doesn't make it any prettier though which is a sad fact

[jolly junco]

it is sad, but we cant judge a person based on what their kkt conversation look like

if she wasnt sincere, she wont fight teeth and tooth for the girls

[opaque torrent]

shes probably talking shit about bang pd 99% of them but they're edited to look otherwise 🤭

[tardy smelt]

if the messages were true, i'm holding out hope she's changed seeing their unconditional love, and i mean, it shows through this

[steep torrent]

funny title
https://x.com/koreaboo/status/1816305591880708511?s=46

Koreaboo (@Koreaboo) on X

Dispatch Reveals Damning Text Messages In Which Min Hee Jin Calls Bang Si Hyuk A "Ret*rd"

https://t.co/9lLFowR1wL

Twitter · Jul 25, 2024, 2:52 AM

[opaque torrent]

she showed that in her ppt!

[arctic sky]

hahaha

well said imo lol

[cyan rivet]

But minji's success does not justify source music's harassment

[opaque torrent]

god this is giving me flashbacks to when we were supposed to believe garam was this violent bully bc she took pics in front of a blackboard with some dick doodles

[opaque torrent]

a bunch of grown men are trolling some young women, arguably sexually harassing them, and we're supposed to care their CEO has a foul mouth

[upper solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/sihyuk-bang-pd-bang-pd-omg-bang-sihyuk-omg-gif-24289138

[acoustic valve]

fr, if I was in her shoes I'd probably have enough personal messages in my chat history about this shit stain of a man to put me on the terrorist watchlist a dozen times over

[opaque torrent]

and this lady has been smeared as a pdf file, do you think she cares if we know she consults a shaman? lol

esp in a company where the men visits massage parlors

[torn edge]

https://tenor.com/view/overslept-relatable-funny-gif-15201891289696510432

[torn edge]

dispatch be like:

[opaque torrent]

she called bang pd a dumbass for getting scammed by scooter braun. was she wrong? was she wrong?

[serene cloud]

i mean hasn't hybe america just been accumulating losses all this time

[jolly junco]

ratmys should cheered for this but those brainless rats will turn a blind eye if its coming from MHJ

they scream everyday about scooter to hybe but when MHJ said the things they wanted to hear from their own bangpig, they will act like it never happened

[dry atlas]

STOP CALLING NAMES

only mhj can do it with context

why cant you discuss this without calling people names

i dont understand

[quick wadi]

https://x.com/yoyoyong1933486/status/1816328644761117054?s=46&t=VsbvELkNCgirMw8_X5n2-Q

hanny0101 (@yoyoyong1933486) on X

@Koreaboo I’m actually in shock, the ‘braindead fan’ was referring to bsh all along. It’s the exact same text. Leejinho said this was about tokkis omg. Also ‘개초딩’ was about bsh too not newjeans

Twitter · Jul 25, 2024, 4:24 AM

[dry atlas]

can't trust these reconstructed texts

[quick wadi]

https://x.com/yoyoyong1933486/status/1816565519585280369?s=46&t=VsbvELkNCgirMw8_X5n2-Q

hanny0101 (@yoyoyong1933486) on X

@nwjns1st On the dispatch article they said source music was in charge of training newjeans (N team) until September 5th which means source was in charge of that weekly evaluation performance (September 4th).

Twitter · Jul 25, 2024, 8:05 PM

[dry atlas]

*x -c https://x.com/nwjns1st/status/1816587418411171961

[harsh dove]

@nwjns1st <t:1721943165:d>

koreans dm me to warn u abt hybe stans like sniper & jjinjins, who came from dc inside to distort facts & manipulate non-koreans into thinking koreans turned their backs to njs. koreans ignore the claims bc they came from the site that s3xually harasses ggs like njs aespa & ive+

[dry atlas]

*x -c https://x.com/nwjns1st/status/1816587432415891747

[harsh dove]

@nwjns1st <t:1721943169:d>

since their tactics aren’t working outside of dc gallery in korea, they‘re now aiming for the intl audience bc their bs allegedly sticks w us (their prediction was right). what we‘ve been experiencing the past few weeks is a well calculated smear campaign through s3x addicted men

[dry atlas]

*x https://x.com/BNPD722/status/1816664416349495680?t=yxarFzkdFEwmON0W8o18TQ&s=19

[harsh dove]

@BNPD722 <t:1721961523:d>

[dry atlas]

trucks have arrived

[harsh dove]

@w_armamenter <t:1721946808:d>

[dry atlas]

~t https://x.com/BNPD722/status/1817735198735519873?t=AfQVyAOdCNnarN1dCXy7Fg&s=19

[narrow seal]

240729 BNPD722 Twitter Update
https://twitter.com/BNPD722/status/1817735198735519873
20240729
10시30분 정시에
트럭총공 시작했습니다🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰

[dry atlas]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1817760572462731559?t=qIOEuSBJ2Xr0F6mU71fkPQ&s=19

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

Min Hee-jin's Side: "The Allegation of Covering Up Sexual Harassment is Not True... Both Sides' Opinions Were Heard Equally"
https://t.co/PrFrqxmORL
Reporter Park Jung-sun

ADOR has clarified the allegations of Min Hee-jin's cover-up of a workplace sexual harassment incident.

On

Twitter · Jul 29, 2024, 3:14 AM

[quick wadi]

https://x.com/njbubblegum/status/1817783109427044370?s=46&t=VsbvELkNCgirMw8_X5n2-Q

. (@NJBUBBLEGUM) on X

The civil complaint to Personal Information Protection Commision about personal info leakage by HYBE, transferred to the police.

Twitter · Jul 29, 2024, 4:44 AM

[dry atlas]

MHJ IG Stories START---------------------------------

Introduction

#1

#2

#3

#4

20-21 missing...........

HOLY FUCK THIS BETTER BE WORTH IT

#5

#6

Closing

[dry atlas]

MHJ IG Stories END---------------------------------

thread open before i fall asleep

someone tldr

[waxen musk]

What is this? I need to get ready for work. Waiting for summary.

[wheat raft]

big thanks for all the translations

[sweet sparrow]

[arctic sky]

I didnt understand a thing lmao

[waxen musk]

Can you pin the first just for easy access later.

[bold sundial]

[cerulean sail]

Are we winning

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[wheat raft]

i understood it as A and B had conflict, MHJ mediated the conflict, everything was resolved privately, but somehow text got edited by malicious actors and published, and it wasnt A B or MHJ who did it

[wheat raft]

correct me if im wrong lol

[cerulean sail]

[snow turtle]

shes just stating her side of the story and how hybe are attacking unnecessarily after she thought they got along again

[bold sundial]

Well feel like nothing really about newjeans, is all mhj stuff

[snow turtle]

i dont think this post was made to win something, just clarification

[timber shell]

oh yeah i thought as this too

[cerulean sail]

If we are not winning, we are losing