NJZ Updates and Discussion

[cerulean sail]

What is there to convince or unconvince? I don't think this brings anything new to the table that wasn't already know, minus some details about medical records and stuff.

[upbeat stream]

Same, why so much mediaplay if you are confident of winning

[half knot]

If anything, some of this stuff may become inadmissable in court BECAUSE it was released to public (potentially)

[upbeat stream]

It's the same thing as the injunction lawsuit

[twin cypress]

Guys say it with me BREACH OF TRUST, BREACH OF TRUST

[half knot]

we kept thinking they must have more and keeping it for the legal fight, but it turned out the kakaotalk screenshots and the shaman stuff really was all they had.

[shut kelp]

does all of this hurt ador/mhj/newjeans?

[waxen musk]

mel understood it as a joke yeah lol. Sorry I edited that to make it obvious it's a joke.

[serene cloud]

Maybe they don't care about the lawsuit

[acoustic valve]

when it comes to media and public perception; money talks more than anything else. If anything, I'm surprised MHJ is still up and fighting, the fact she's only hated by 50% of people and not 90% is alrdy a win in my book.

[serene cloud]

, they want the mediaplay more, plus they have other cases

[ashen charm]

so ador stole new jeans ehhhhhh

[twin cypress]

It hurts source way more if fans are smart enough to question why they had 16 hanni and 14 haerin doing inappropriate dances

[arctic sky]

haha i just skimmed trough X and looked like ppl are focusing more on the released videos than the article like they were celebrating lol

[cerulean sail]

Dispatch conveniently ignored mentioning Lesserafim and the trainees and when they were brought in and why. They are the reason ADOR had to be founded. This has already been explained.

[waxen musk]

It will be like their rest period at the start of the year, I'm assuming. They had a few weeks to travel, remember.

[shut kelp]

but wasnt mhj the one behind it? or someone else in source?

[coarse ferry]

what is their goal in leaking these videos?

[acoustic valve]

if by "stole" you mean paid Source Music 2 billion won for whatever training they received

[torn edge]

newjeans & mhj falldown obv

[twin cypress]

I mean if this was to prove source already had newjeans pretty much built before mhj step in and took them then it was source behind those dances

[dry atlas]

if you actually read the article source was in charge of choreo. mhj was only in charge of branding

just read it!!!

[shut kelp]

i cant am at work lol

[torn edge]

and they just pull the 'fifty-fifty' case card

[frozen granite]

What is with the chat screenshots though? Why are people saying it is incriminating MHJ?

[half knot]

yeah they literally give themselves away, source was in charge of the choreography haha

[waxen musk]

Just generally convincing people to believe MHJ or not. That's basically all I mean.

[coarse ferry]

was mhj behind these videos?

[twin cypress]

Like leaking them or what do you mean?

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/newjeansnews_/status/1815585279320940977

NEWJEANS NEWS🇰🇷 (@newjeansnews_) on X

In relation to the media play posted by Dispatch today, Min Heejin stated "This is false information, we plan to take legal action," in a direct interview after the allegations were posted.
https://t.co/sNeWVNe7Yg

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 3:10 AM

[upbeat stream]

oh wow

[dry atlas]

response already

[red thorn]

Interesting

[waxen musk]

Exactly. Without reading anything it looks like more of the 2nd anniversary celebrations

[torn edge]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-loop-3d-edit-gif-24518425

[twin cypress]

CEO has spoken 🫡

[serene cloud]

Press conference when

[coarse ferry]

like making them dance like that

[arctic sky]

that was quick

[dry atlas]

basically this is it

[twin cypress]

No source made them do those dances

[dry atlas]

lol

[spare timber]

just saw the videos why the hell would they make Haerin & Hanni dance to that 😭

[somber pumice]

LMAO

[twin cypress]

Same reason they make eunchae dance like that while she is still a minor

[waxen musk]

I'll be honest I'm so forgetful about what MHJ said prior to all this. I'm sad about my lack of memory lol. There's too much to keep track off. But like I said I will tend to not believe Dispatch because of their history. Also the timing is like... can you not make it so obvious, just wait like 3 days or something lol.

[frozen granite]

Clock it 💅🏻

[torn edge]

imagine after anniversary party you waking up with this shit. i'll take it personal fr

[cerulean sail]

MHJ taking DC INSIDE and DISPATCH down all in the same day. The Final Boss of Kpop 🫡

[spare timber]

Yea I get that it’s just like biggest what the fuck ever

[ashen charm]

why did they leak the heel dances out of everything ....

[twin cypress]

One thing people never give mhj credit for is making sure that choreography and wardrobe is appropriate for the ages. Like hyeins outfits always make sure to cover up as much skin

[valid sierra]

unauthorized, I really hope for hybe downfall

[shut kelp]

does this mean we're getting a press conference in the coming days?

[spare timber]

[orchid field]

Mhj they will never make me hate you nobody defends their idols like her

[tender karma]

my first thought until reading this channel lmao

[torn edge]

what if they all just don't like newjeans being a successful group with female CEO behind em?

[twin cypress]

BREACH OF TRUST, BREACH OF TRUST

[spare timber]

i think that’s alr one of the reasons

[shut kelp]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1815585470027596210

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

@breadsaz yes. dispatch probably got them from somu archive.

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 3:11 AM

[torn edge]

i mean most of the kpop group are being manage by male CEOs right

[frozen granite]

Source music needs to be investigated by the police bc why are they making minors dance like this

[twin cypress]

Yes a lot of old Pervy men

[waxen musk]

Press conference no.3 when? (I would not be surprised honestly.)

[ashen charm]

whats the point of of hybe media play if there just gunna fire her when her contract is up all of this just damages the girls

[frozen granite]

New MHJ fit !!

[torn edge]

i summarized all of this problem to one simple conclusion XD damn fucked up KPOP industry fr

[sweet sparrow]

[spare timber]

😭😭

[waxen musk]

Oh good parents protesting against the unreleased videos is good to hear.

[slate yarrow]

yeah I was so weirded out with the heel videos, it's not a good look for source music, thankfully most of newjeans' choreography is age-appropriate

[coarse ferry]

wait is source the one that lsrfm is under?

[acoustic valve]

because they're trying to get out of paying mhj the 100b won they will owe her when she leaves without breaking contract, that's 90% of it, the other 10% is personal

[torn edge]

yea

[coarse ferry]

makes sense

[shut kelp]

also didnt hybe say mhj leaked medical record aswell?

[twin cypress]

Out of all the videos source couldve choosen they really picked the one where they sexualized the members the most 😭😭😭😭

[waxen musk]

Please don't take this as me defending Source but I feel like I've seen pre-trainee Hyein dance in high heels already. (Am I misremembering.) But yeah the specific songs to dance to is creepy stuff.

[acoustic valve]

really shows how tone-deaf they are, they think it was perfectly normal and appropriate to leak those

[orchid field]

Seriously this entire thing just felt like mysogyny

[waxen musk]

People are gonna counter you and remind you of Attention MV. People specifically have mentioned their distate of how much skin Hyein shows in that MV.

[torn edge]

RIGHT?

[waxen musk]

Sorry I feel like I'm being contradictory I should stop I'm on NewJeans' side lol.

[torn edge]

it since day 1 newjeans debuted bro

[tardy smelt]

ur good, playing the devil's advocate, good to have different opinions for discussion

[torn edge]

ash needed time fr XD

[waxen musk]

THAT'S FOR SURE. I feel like MHJ cares to the point of like they're her own children lol.

[acoustic valve]

there will always be bad faith arguments and counterpoints, especially when it comes to kpop fans, it means nothing. I think you should stop giving them so much value for your own wellbeing

[tired ingot]

do this after they celebrate 2nd anniversary is evil behavior

[waxen musk]

Ofc yeah. It's just with that Attention MV example I remember specifically how people felt a long while ago about that.

[torn edge]

not evil...it's just business

[waxen musk]

I think I do it to pre-prepare myself with how people are going to repond online. Like it's predictable and I already know how people behave. It's just I'm bringing up historical opinions (what people thought of NewJeans in the past) that might be resurfaced, too.

Sigh.

Anyway can only wait for proper response now. I hate this.

[torn edge]

wanna go to HYBE and blow some shit up ash?

[waxen musk]

For legal reasons I will not respond.

[arctic sky]

just nukes it

[vale grove]

Let's go to dispatch first

Jkjk for legal reasons ofc

[waxen musk]

Source doing this before me personally being excited for Le Sserafim's comeback after me being put off from being able to enjoy their music like I did previous is just again gonna make me not be able to enjoy their comeback next month. Stupid.

[arctic sky]

not trucks this time send tanks

[tired ingot]

dispatch got paid by hybe

[acoustic valve]

the discourse will only get worse before it gets better, especially if Ador keeps winning the legal proceedings. The other side will hit back even harder where they have an advantage; money and the media it can buy + the much larger fandoms it can influence. Once again, my best advice is to not get too invested in the various mediaplays and fanwars

[vale grove]

Both of them deserve it, I know they can hook people in to their article with the pre debut NewJeans content

[torn edge]

imma stick to MHJ statement that..this is the Adults problem. she's right

[waxen musk]

mel can you pin the Dispatch link just for easier access. Thanks.

Oh wtf I barely skimmed through that second video but watching it in full now and seeing Hanni's solo performance too which I skipped past previous I'm now like HELL NAH.

[sweet sparrow]

fr

[waxen musk]

Oh it's all four of them doing the same. WTF

[waxen musk]

Oh and the lyrics of the TikTok vids at the end lol, so explicit lol. I really didn't watch this properly lol. Glad I went back. I thought I should after how strong some of your opinions were about all of that. Yeah it's WAY too far past the appropriateness levels imo.

[tawdry vessel]

im out guys, see you when nj1 album comes out

[waxen musk]

Later! It'll do you good. Hopefully time will pass quickly.

[somber pumice]

i will be waiting for u…..

[sweet sparrow]

bye bye

[tawdry vessel]

[waxen musk]

ngl with the inappropriateness of that second video it makes me wonder about Cookie's history.

[sweet sparrow]

oh really? I havent watched it with sounds

[waxen musk]

Do we know if Source was only in charge of training them with Attention or do we know if any of their other songs were also part of it?

[buoyant hamlet]

Glad to see the Korean public still against Hybe in the Dispatch comments

[vale grove]

Real, I can't do this another time

[rapid niche]

the text not showing.

[quick wadi]

sei you forgot -c.

[rapid niche]

oh. its the opposite.

*twt https://x.com/juantokki/status/1815592955119558922?s=46&t=5oA_EOOgLPzpmYUU0LFcSQ -c

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1721706067:d>

ADOR to Take Legal Action Against HYBE for "Edited and Leaked Personal Information" [Official Statement]
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/144/0000977229
Reporter Lee Sun-myung

ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin has denied claims that she took Source Music trainees from HYBE to debut them as members of NewJeans and announced plans for legal action.

On the 23rd, an ADOR representative stated, “The related content is false, and the release of trainee videos without permission has led to complaints from the members and their parents to HYBE. This constitutes a breach of contract.”

The representative continued, “The claims are not true, and we plan to take legal action against HYBE for providing mashed up personal KakaoTalk messages as sources. We will take measures against HYBE for illegally obtaining and stitching up personal KakaoTalk messages and leaking these sources along with personal images.”

Entertainment media outlet Dispatch had previously reported that Min Hee-jin requested to expand her involvement with Source Music trainees (now NewJeans members) more than four times. It also raised suspicions that Min intentionally delayed the debut schedule of these trainees to lead NewJeans' debut herself.

Reporter Sun-myung Lee: [e-mail]
(edited by @NJBUBBLEGUM and @PoppyKPoppie )

[red thorn]

Can I have this source

Oh nvm

[vapid bronze]

Checked pinned for all the info!

[acoustic valve]

we know nothing for sure, both sides obviously makes conflicting claims that are beneficial to them but the scant cherry-picked evidence shouldn't be understood as definitive of any one narrative. The only way we'd "know for sure" is through a court of law

[drowsy crypt]

||I hate Disp4tch ||

[acoustic valve]

I hate Hybe

[short laurel]

Kinda ya but it was still bad n objectify nj.

[tardy smelt]

ngl feeling similar dread to when this whole thing started, i can usually ignore all media play, but leaking the predebut stuff concerning the members was real fuckin' dirty

trust in NewJeans karma

[acoustic valve]

Just shows how desperate they are in that they're not even doing the slightest to pretend they're protecting the artists anymore, I'm praying for the inevitable downfall of Hybe, hope the first label they sell to prevent going bankrupt is Ador

[vapid bronze]

This thread is a small nightmare for me

[waxen musk]

A neverending nightmare.

We could have years of this. Seriously.

[vapid bronze]

We love the hybe groups tho

[dry atlas]

loops really didnt post anything

so good

[waxen musk]

That's good.

[acoustic valve]

Unless the idols have a seat in the board rooms of these companies(they don't), there's no reason to blame them for what Hybe does

[waxen musk]

I just think of the girls and the team when all of this continues to happen. Sounds ridiculously stressful. I'm just so happy they get breaks which seems uncommon with other groups in K-pop.

[drowsy crypt]

Respect 🫂

[waxen musk]

The annoying thing is how much I have liked Le Sserafim and ILLIT and how much all of this has affected me even being able to listen to them in the past few months. I only just got around to enjoying Le Sserafim again and then Source does this just before their comeback.

[tardy smelt]

this is what gets me pissed too, they can't even enjoy their break after working so hard these past months

[vapid bronze]

Let's put all the stress back to the ceo

[waxen musk]

Stress that's not dealt with can lead to many health problems, such as high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, obesity and diabetes.

[vapid bronze]

[drowsy crypt]

I love BTS in November 2017 when I gonna first time listen mic drop

[half knot]

which CEO?

[waxen musk]

I haven't even been on Twitter yet.

[vapid bronze]

Bang pd and Park jiwon

[tired ingot]

I wonder is they any group before got attacked by their own labels?

[strange grove]

hybe leaking private trainee videos to attack ador is vile

[vapid bronze]

Use it for updates only.

[hoary frost]

whewww

[half knot]

look, he is already of a particular mass, any more stress and he might gain his own gravitational field, okay? We don't need this.

[cosmic sage]

probs best not to

[tired ingot]

they said will protect the artist, fuck off

[tardy smelt]

i surprisingly haven't seen any shit takes to laugh at on my feed yet

[vapid bronze]

This made me laugh, thanks ahaha

[half knot]

cool dispatch eastereggs of predebut NJ stuff we would have never gotten otherwise lol

[arctic sky]

nah this was unprecedented event ,once in blue moon

[acoustic valve]

they were leaked videos used as evidence in an article from dispatch that's meant to be a hitpiece against mhj and why she "stole newjeans from source music"

[half knot]

blue moons are surprisingly frequent

[vapid bronze]

It's like a "This you?" From my perspective

[half knot]

I have no issues with the videos themselves aside from the age inappropriate choreo. it's what they are being used for that bothers me a lot, an attack article on MHJ, Ador and by extension really, NewJeans.

[waxen musk]

lol we barely got to talk about ADOR's response to Bubble Gum plagiarism.

[half knot]

Very strong response to the plagiarism.

[strange grove]

members and parent's dont wont those videos of them posted, that should be enough

[tardy smelt]

solid response, with a hint of intimidation

[vapid bronze]

The choreographer made it, and groups can either keep it, adjust it or ask them to make another (unlikely)

[half knot]

we barely got to even talk about the fact that now ADOR is suing HYBE lol

[stone grotto]

MHJ and the girls can’t catch a break

[acoustic valve]

the videos by themselves are "ok, i guess.. ?" but knowing they were leaked AGAINST THE WILL of the members and without their consent is what makes them disgusting and sickening

[knotty valve]

I truly hate hybe and every damn company’s executives within it besides ADOR. They’re just so damn annoying it’s so embarrassing.

[stone grotto]

Why are they even still at this. They had a successful comeback, can’t they see hybe needs them

[acoustic valve]

and leaked by a wholeass corporation as well, not even just one or two individuals doing it for cash or smth

[vapid bronze]

Faneto by chief keef is a good song to listen rn, instead of new jersey it's hybe.

[waxen musk]

ADOR proves themselves over and over again with the care they show. Can't say that about the other labels.

[half knot]

This really needs to stop, it's getting really ridiculous.

[vapid bronze]

Hybe has other plans and they already have multiple groups. Idk how to dumb myself down to think like them

[stone grotto]

Here’s the thing. Why didn’t they bring this up back in May when MHJ said they were trying to make her debut lesserafim first to ride the hype of izone members debuting in new groups

And not only that, MHJ has the girls’ parents to back up her story

[hoary frost]

hybe is so dirty like this is about members. did not source already sue for it? prove it in court then. do u have to release confidential footages and info for public sympathy? this is beyond ugly and further proof that hybe will never spare newjeans. them allowing belift label release that absolutely nonsensical video was already proof of it but this is next level.

[half knot]

because Source had not sued MHJ yet. This is to turn public opinion through mediaplay when they inevitably lose in court.

[stone grotto]

Newjeans only doing TikTok challenges with aespa must have really hit BSH hard LOL

[half knot]

Also they waited until the girls' promotions were done and 2nd anniversary was over and they were going on a short break to start hell again.

[tiny peak]

their poor little egos are hurt after taking so many losses, that explains all their stupidity

[vapid bronze]

Ego is crumbling as we chat

[arctic sky]

I feel like it was intentional i mean the timing of it dropped couldnt be more impeccable. Maybe it was intentional u know for media divertion/manipulation lol.

[waxen musk]

Why did I go on /r/kpop to see if there's any new K-pop releases, click on the Bubble Gum response thread then then read the first 10 or so comments. WHY DO I DO THIS TO MYSELF.

[stone grotto]

If it were the case, HYBE would have countered her story with theirs when she first said it back in May

[lean garden]

r/kpop should be nuked from orbit

[vapid bronze]

They don't like to have fun

[strange grove]

So if I'm reading the article right (leaked videos nonwithstanding) Source were compensated to a tune of 2 mil for the transfer, doesn't sound like anyone was "stolen".

[acoustic valve]

this is also a crazy statement that should be read a couple times

[half knot]

they really had to go dig at the archives to try and come up with an alternate narrative lol

[tired ingot]

I'm sorry I don't keep up this drama, why source music sue mhj/newjeans?

[acoustic valve]

Hybe legal is taking ador's money and lying to their face about not being able to do anything. fuck hybe so much

[half knot]

they claim that MHJ's statements caused financial harm for Source

[hoary frost]

no surprise that ador is ostracized within company. i expected this.

[tardy smelt]

loool, i looked through that earlier, it's hilarious how completely dismissive that sub is

[upper solstice]

this makes me like attention more

[stone grotto]

I mean the evidence is all there. They really didn’t take long getting lesserafim ready for debut which kinda fits the timeline with hybe trying to make lesserafim MHJ’s first girl group

[half knot]

failing to mention that HYBE themselves started all this by bringing up a matter that she had only brought up with them internally through an email, going on such a character assassination campaign that it forced MHJ's hands to reveal the content of that internal complaint.

[waxen musk]

I love it. HYBE was like nah there's nothing you can do about anonymous users online and MHJ was like I'LL SHOW YOU THERE ARE WAYS.

[knotty valve]

They literally have the biggest hate boner for all things newjeans. Can’t even think critically for a few seconds either. Just laughed and thought “ ohh how ironic huh MHJ hehehe” god what losers lol

[vapid bronze]

I don't trust reddit at all

[arctic sky]

they are mad bruh lmfao

[waxen musk]

I'm just so sad there seems to be literally no reconciliation. ADOR NEEDS to leave HYBE. That will hurt them so much. I was hopeful in the past and now I'm just accepting this horrible eventual conclusion where the only win is them leaving.

[opaque torrent]

medical history was leaked?

[arctic sky]

mhm

[waxen musk]

I didn't see that bit I might have skipped past it.

[half knot]

in the second vid, right? I can't really make out the hangul

[stone grotto]

With everything Ador has been through since April and with even more people in love with newjeans now, they will have public opinion on their side

[opaque torrent]

what was said/

[vapid bronze]

Wait till some random shit gets leaked

[half knot]

but that's pathetic, HYBE accusing MHJ of doing this back then and now they are ironically doing it themselves

[arctic sky]

i have the twt wait a sec

[knotty valve]

If so the parents gotta be hella pissed, and would rightfully sue them for leaking this.

[half knot]

a bunch of egotistical narcissists projecting

[vapid bronze]

Ador, please rob hybe in the court 🤑

[half knot]

It's interesting that they are doing this through Source, given Source is NOT a shareholder of Ador.

And per ador's articles of incorporation, all shareholders need to act in the interest of the company.

[stone grotto]

Don’t they have LSF’s comeback to worry about. Better hope they put some attention to their live performances before the public starts shitting on them again

[half knot]

so HYBE doesn't get their hands dirty despite being behind all this basically.

[twin cypress]

https://x.com/juantokki/status/1815584963947114989?s=46&t=hOVGXwY_fNI2l2NfO-DQkg

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

They now have released the girls' medical history... These things shouldn't be available for public viewing.

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 3:09 AM

[tardy smelt]

tokkis got opps

[stone grotto]

And what happened to the TWS plagiarizing gdragon/top? That disappeared in a day!!!!!!

[opaque torrent]

can they really claim that? who else would have access to this info?

[half knot]

source is a separate entity after all

[arctic sky]

looks like it being deleted

[stone grotto]

HYBE is powerful in regards to media play

[twin cypress]

I tried making a joke about Kendrick Lamar and source music making hanni and haerin do that dance and got auto muted by the bot for an hour lol

[knotty valve]

Man I can imagine MHJ just storming right to Bang PDs office and telling him what the actual fuck is wrong with you, cause my goodness this is just so stupid.

[red thorn]

They did it from beginning
It was all the media

[opaque torrent]

so ador can sue source for obstruction of business and defamation lol

[twin cypress]

Anyways BREACH OF TRUST BREACH OF TRUST

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/missingmedics/status/1815587582195171466?t=ej163N-zQDhfwAYfryVtSQ&s=19

Don't say a word... (@missingmedics) on X

Mind you, source music already have a gg but they're still crying over newjeans being "stolen talent" from them😭

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 3:19 AM

[vapid bronze]

PRIVATE information being leaked, like do they not understand the consequences? Surely they thought through before doing it

[twin cypress]

If ador is able to free themselves the hybe stocks might die 💀

[red thorn]

Man this is like makjang plot

[stone grotto]

It just sucks for the girls and the other groups under hybe. They basically can’t interact with them because their labels are at each other’s throats.

[vapid bronze]

Diss tracks coming soon

[half knot]

oh it was in the second video, what the fuck

[spare timber]

Isn’t that mostly with ILLIT though? I’m pretty sure le sserafim are still friends just not interacting in public

[half knot]

I didn't realize that they actually did that...

[spare timber]

I get what you mean though it sucks so much 😭

[hoary frost]

I want newjeans to be free. they have 5 years left on contract. I can't allow them to spend it in toxic hybe environment where adults think they are disposable and are petty towards them

[tardy smelt]

yeah, and they snuck that shit at the bottom, i missed it myself

[vapid bronze]

Yunjin from lsf and hanni, they go to the movies together in hybe building. They're still friends but like what you said not interacting in public

[twin cypress]

Tbh I can do without the collabs with other hybe groups. All I care about is Haerin Hanni Hyein Danielle Minji and the music they make. I don’t need to see some tik toks for validation

[spare timber]

[stone grotto]

Well for one, they didn’t do a single dance challenge with any other group. The only other group they did them with was aespa, BSH’s sworn enemy

[hoary frost]

and ateez

[twin cypress]

They called me a mad man when I said that was gonna happen when the first scandal broke out a couple months ago

[vapid bronze]

Ador is giving kendrick vibes

[stone grotto]

Ah that’s right. But yeah no hybe group

[tardy smelt]

fr

[stone grotto]

Newjeans needs to drop their “not like us”

[spare timber]

Okay yea I understand your point

[hoary frost]

what? (edit nvm)

[half knot]

no fr like the audacity to even highlight it
what is wrong with these people

[drowsy crypt]

I love Kendrick Lamar

[vapid bronze]

Hybe got no clap backs, they say smth and it gets turnt back around

[twin cypress]

Ay all I’m saying is Minji could link up with Kendrick at a Chanel event 🤫

[vapid bronze]

Unexpected but powerful collab

[stone grotto]

I’m waiting for the Pharrell produced song/styling

[acoustic valve]

members have far bigger concerns than who they can and can't do challenges or do forced interactions on stage with

[ocean arch]

Didn't know Dani was a yg trainee

[eager hamlet]

fr

[spare timber]

I didn’t know either i’m surprised about that too

[twin cypress]

I really want to see that collab. And hyein with bad bunny or wemby in a lv event

[vapid bronze]

Lmao

[strange grove]

keep in mind hyein and dani have been working a long time lol

[twin cypress]

Hyein and wemby would make an iconic photo 😹

[valid sierra]

Haerin and Lewis Hamilton for Dior

[dry atlas]

how are the qoo comments looking

[ocean arch]

Just thought she was a source music trainee from the start

[vapid bronze]

They just gotta worry about performing that's it. (I fear a black ocean is coming soon)

[half knot]

lol not a fan of kboo but this is a crazy headline title

[spare timber]

And if I said newjeans x any dominican musician then what 😭

[tardy smelt]

AHAHAHA

[half knot]

straight out of 2016 memes era of US elections

[twin cypress]

Newjeans x don omar

[vapid bronze]

Where's the vine boom sound effect?

[spare timber]

REAAAL LMFAOOOO

[acoustic valve]

maybe if they performed at hybe concert or smth, otherwise they're far more loved than pretty much every other hybe group

[twin cypress]

Or aventura 😼

[vapid bronze]

[spare timber]

karol g when..

[vapid bronze]

Eminem could help making a diss track

[half knot]

though tbh in case of NJ, most of the crazy antis are not male incel fans now, are they.... looking at you, r/kpop.

[frozen granite]

https://x.com/protectnewjeans/status/1815597841806418230?s=46

PROTECT NEWJEANS (@ProtectNewJeans) on X

It’ll be alright. Cmon group hug 🫂🫂🫂🫂

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 4:00 AM

[stiff minnow]

Hey

What happened?

[twin cypress]

Yep no shade to le serrafim but their monthly listeners are dropping fast when it should’ve gone up after a Coachella appearance and with all the music they have out. Newjeans has appeal inside and outside kpop and continue to retain their monthly listeners without constant comebacks

[spare timber]

Dispatch leaked medical records & very inappropriate predebut videos without Ador’s nor the members consent

[tiny peak]

this company is stupid and incompetent beyond belief, their downfall is just a matter of time

[half knot]

when will they learn not to do this in public?

[hoary frost]

ive not read dispatch article and do not plan to. can someone give me main points and what are these videos and what are they supposed to prove?

[arctic sky]

Seriously for ur own sanity and wellbeing ,DONT visit r/kpop

[glass socket]

Wait why did they leak it

[half knot]

the videos themselves don't prove anything, they are just showing the girls in 2020-2021.

[acoustic valve]

you say that as if reddit isn't an incel-adjacent platform, ymmv between subs but all large subs converge into the same point of brain disease

[torn edge]

thank god i only dive reddit for dank memes

[half knot]

the texts in the videos involved some very personal and medical information regarding the girls.

[vapid bronze]

I'm just giggling at this point, can't bother with reddit users

[hoary frost]

yeah. they dancing on attention demo which is production of BANA and mhj.

[half knot]

the article itself is all about trying to refute MHJ's timeline of events about her time at Source and how NJ was put together.

[tulip tusk]

Wait wtf they were dancing to attention in 2021

[half knot]

But it's coming with extremely incomplete information, half of it is just MHJ's personal conversations with her shaman.

[hoary frost]

newjeans themselves said they practiced attention for 2 years before debut

[strange grove]

I mean yeah it's clearly cherry picked

[tulip tusk]

oh what I had no idea lmao

[vapid bronze]

Groups train for their 1st appearance so that's why they do it way before it happens

[half knot]

seriously, a judge is going to laugh at them if they try to use that shaman stuff that they clearly illegally obtained without MHJ's permission.

[hoary frost]

ohhh i see thanks. usual distorted information to gain public sympathy

[acoustic valve]

but international fans hating on NJ are mostly Hybe fans... which are mostly women, that much is true. The domestic hatred for NJ mostly comes from incel communities though, that's also true

[vapid bronze]

[half knot]

and a judge ALREADY laughed at them once at the injunction hearing when they kept bringing up the shaman stuff.

also do they really think this will play well to the Korean audience, a significant portion of which do go and see psychics and shamans and such?

[vapid bronze]

This must be black magic!

[hoary frost]

no. why would mhj give her music to group that would not be hers? she came to hybe because she was promised her own label and girl group. literally all press release talked about that. she would get label and gg after debuting plus global audition as a creative director

[twin cypress]

We aint got to sugarcoat it most of the international hate come from the bts fandom who believes everyone under hybe should worship them

[acoustic valve]

won't deny that

[hoary frost]

if hybe wants to use her music, etc it means she should have more role than just creative director.

[rose turret]

[vapid bronze]

Some people forget idols are humans

[spare timber]

more like majority 💀

[vapid bronze]

[spare timber]

[half knot]

HYBE's cult clearly is a fraud, no magical powers, all hail the magic shaman

[tardy smelt]

i can't wait for the day our fandom stops interacting with them, giving them fuel to hate on NJ, it's a bit of a problem

[half knot]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-squidward-tentacles-the-magic-conch-gif-941877893513198381

[cobalt anvil]

apparently there were leaks abt newjeans pre debut

[vapid bronze]

Not suprised about cults in Korea cause yk

[short laurel]

Issue is there are Tokkies who hate mhj n are fighting with that fandom against other Tokkies

[snow turtle]

Armies in disguise

[short laurel]

Most tokkies just gave up using Twitter anyways

[tardy smelt]

mfw we have a rogue faction of tokkis

[twin cypress]

The problem is that there’s fans out there that think that being nice to other fandoms that hate you will make them stop when the truth is the hate will just continue whether or not 99% of your fandom is chill

[waxen musk]

Outside of the 10 comments I saw on /r/kpop that I quickly stopped reading I haven't seen anything on Twitter yet and I'm thankful for that. Just seeing supportive Tokkis so far.

[short laurel]

R/kpop n other kpop subreddit i m sure are majorily controlled by big group fandom.

[waxen musk]

I don't know what to do. I woke up too early and now I'm thinking off too many things to get more rest before working tonight.

[tiny peak]

even if you don't like MHJ, you can't call yourself a tokki if you support or defend HYBE

[stiff minnow]

This is so gross man, so unnecessary. We are not getting more activities from NJ until march?

[opaque torrent]

wow some of the choreo and the outfits they made nj wear? in front of a lot of male executives?

[dry atlas]

get off social including discord

[twin cypress]

Crazy thing is they hate mhj for the cookie incident but will look past source music making super underage haerin and hanni do the heel dance

[half knot]

we have an album coming out later this year, then the fortnite stuff at the end of the year, and I presume a lot of end of the year events that NJ girls will have to attend, then world tour probably starting in spring 2025

[opaque torrent]

i think that this is going forward as planned and that is why hybe is throwing a tantrum

[vapid bronze]

Tokkis should move to Facebook

[short laurel]

Why facebook. That's one garbage to another

[opaque torrent]

like i bet you hybe didnt even know about fortnite

[snow turtle]

mhj is newjeans as much as our girls are, and they show it everyone not supporting the girls isnt a bunny

[cobalt anvil]

facebook is really toxic

[vapid bronze]

Really?

[dry atlas]

did ador repost their stories why does it say 5min ago

[opaque torrent]

when that was leaked they got angwy

[cobalt anvil]

in my country yeah

[half knot]

check if they changed anything

[vapid bronze]

Welp gg

[twin cypress]

I bet they tried to steal that collab for but failed 😂

[opaque torrent]

yeah facebook is MAGAville in the US. why would i go there? 😭

[cobalt anvil]

there are more posts bashing hanni herself than the group’s activities

people are really toxic they just can’t get off their tail

[stiff minnow]

Well, thanks for the answer mate, i’m not 100 percent informed so i’m just watching what u guys are saying. Hope everything goes well for the group.

[short laurel]

If u want a platform go somewhere fediverse like mestodon. Not as much garbage there

[cobalt anvil]

in vietnam it’s as toxic as it is

[half knot]

Dispatch years ago lost a lawsuit for this kind of personal information leak

[vapid bronze]

[half knot]

and had to pay $100K each to the victims.
https://law.go.kr/LSW/precInfoP.do?evtNo=2011나89080

[opaque torrent]

ador will be okay. all of this is getting settled in court so theres no need to get into arguments with those miserable boy moms who think they're military wives.

mhj would not hold a press conference and say what she said directly if she didn't have evidence. everything hybe claims has to be done through a third party so they can act dumb later

[tardy smelt]

thank fk she's keeping her head cool

[cinder verge]

guys i havent been active. can someone give me a general idea of what has been discussed since adors statement or anything important? sorry 😞

[cobalt anvil]

each time a hybe group got into trouble

[opaque torrent]

i just hope hybe takes the weekend off like they did round 1

[cobalt anvil]

newjeans is used as a shield

like when le sserafim was awful at coachella, we have this mhj and hybe thing

[tiny peak]

all of ADOR responses and actions have been logical and clear, and everything HYBE does incompetently backfires, so all these things will eventually get settled. but it's still seriously tiring

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[zenith spear]

first ADOR put a statemen on IG, u can check. Second, NJ pre debut video and photo is leaked

[cobalt anvil]

few days ago, tws had some plagiarism allegation, hybe forced people to delete posts and straight up put newjeans plagiarism up

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[short laurel]

The fact that mhj 1st presscon is within logical n clear.

[twin cypress]

Source used dispatch to leak pre debut things of nj to disprove mhj story of how nj was formed but in the process exposed themselves as perverts for making super young haerin and hanni do inappropriate dances, leaked medical info and basically gave ador the perfect opportunity to claim that hybe breached the trust of the members with this

[zenith spear]

they rlly had a beef on MHJ

[zenith spear]

glad Korean court is fair

[cobalt anvil]

funny thing is that it’s been over a month and the company that has been making the accusations hasn’t responded yet

[twin cypress]

Oh and the parents and members are probably mad af right now about this leak so there’s that

[vapid bronze]

Not really but, still something.

[cobalt anvil]

it was normal until that damn hybe decided to blow things from a month ago up

[zenith spear]

fr, they rlly not feel good until they takedown the MHJ. They too shame bcs MHJ win on the court

[tardy smelt]

anyone stressed about the situation, listen to Hanni's 3am live guitar sesh
anyone pissed about the situation, listen to Kendrick

[zenith spear]

such a big company

[vapid bronze]

50 cent many men wish death upon me

[cobalt anvil]

they also do this to clear off anything negative abt their groups

[placid rose]

korean court decisions goes into dust after a random international fan, multifan says "shes a psycho"

[grim hatch]

hybe jealousy is rlly smth

[cobalt anvil]

like shifting attention

[waxen musk]

A NewJeans under MHJ is infinitely more desirable than a NewJeans under Source after those videos we saw today. Like holy shit. If you don't like MHJ herself then people should at least acknowledge how things would be under Source instead.

[vapid bronze]

I need to see that one black content creators that's has the screaming cactus thing to debunk and inform the people

[stone grotto]

Maybe BSH is mad rapmonster and jimin’s songs didn’t do so hot. And Jin coming back didn’t boost their stocks

[acoustic valve]

I wouldn't call it fair, it's still far more favorable to whomever has more money to fight... but it's certainly fairer than news media and public opinion

[cinder verge]

omg wtf thats insane thank you for summarizing

[cinder verge]

thank you

[zenith spear]

n they just make it worse

[zenith spear]

yeah, eventually the korean fans are fed up with HYBE and side with MHJ

[cinder verge]

wait guys can someone explain to me how source music is claiming that newjeans was formed

[vapid bronze]

I forgot but it's the trainees

[waxen musk]

I remember that well but I almost forgot she did it to comfort Bunnies during a difficult time.

[zenith spear]

ohh okaay, idk actually but most media sided with HYBE so I hope court side with ADOR again this time

[ocean arch]

I'm on facebook.its no better

[zenith spear]

bcs NJ is generally somu trainee?

[tardy smelt]

exactly why i suggested it, all my doubts went away when i tuned into that live, Hanni is special for that

[vapid bronze]

Ig what Mel said was right, hop off socials

[zenith spear]

it should be us who comfort her

[snow turtle]

Public opinion in Korea and japan is MHJ favoured, its just the international armies you all see on twitter etc

[stone grotto]

Looks like Korean netizens have been pretty negative toward hybe on this whole matter

[zenith spear]

fr, especially through the night and friday, her voice just straight heaven

[vapid bronze]

They don't search up translations or anything, still with hybe

[zenith spear]

yeah, i remember ARMY got mad about BTS in some case, idk it's recent but i can't recall

[tardy smelt]

i've lost count how many times i've played the entire live in the bg while working, vibes are immaculate, very healing, would recommend

[ocean arch]

Yeah I was having a good normal morning and I opened this thread

[stone grotto]

I hope the courts give Ador the ability to just break off from hybe considering all the ganging up they’re doing to them

[zenith spear]

frrr, every of her cover is so... rlly love her voice so much

[snow turtle]

idk, news like these dont even seem worth mentioning cuz i know we are in the right

let them yap abd destroy themselves

[vapid bronze]

Well, there's hope here cause we're positive

[zenith spear]

yeah, they prob getting paid to spread a profitable news

[waxen musk]

I woke up, saw ADOR's notice, was super happy with it and literally 2 minutes later saw the Dispatch thing.

[stone grotto]

Before I was worried about Ador leaving because of the blacklisting hybe could do to them but the girls are so big now that they can’t be stopped

[ocean arch]

I don't know why are they fixating on shaman issue.its not like nj is doing bad.

[zenith spear]

sadly i was happy to see their pre-debut video or photo, but it's kinda unapproriate right since it's a secret

[stone grotto]

They wanna make her not look of sound mind

[ocean arch]

Yeah I'm off social after making a stop at r/kpop

[vapid bronze]

The rise and fall of Hybe.

[tardy smelt]

you and i on the same wavelength, absolute waste of energy to clap back in a neverending cycle, better to ignore and show positive support

[snow turtle]

Yeah on one side thanks for giving us free predebut content, but its not posted for a good reason

[half knot]

it would be very improbable, and could only happen if they can prove in court that HYBE as shareholders of ador are acting against the interests of ador, which the court could then force the shareholder to part with their shares. however, we're seeing them act through belift and source, with HYBE staying out of it after the injunction was granted in favor of MHJ and all of HYBE's points were individually refuted by the judge.

[half knot]

meant as reply to that lol

[zenith spear]

yeah, after the bunnies camp JP bunnies must be more favour to NJ and MHJ. Now just wish that court side with them and all settle

[cinder verge]

i have a link to the reddit post abt what source is claiming but idk if its okay to post here

[south vale]

Real lol

[waxen musk]

I think HYBE saw one too many positive posts in the news recently. Yesterday I saw lots of nice stuff. Felt good for A DAY. A single day.

[zenith spear]

butthurt HYBE

[vapid bronze]

Parry Poopers/Vibe Killas

[snow turtle]

Would be a shame if a strategically aimed missile would hit the hybe executive office

[zenith spear]

LMAO

[snow turtle]

[cinder verge]

bro is cooking sum up 💀💀💀

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vapid bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-missile-attack-gif-15129536

[tardy smelt]

are you volunteering

[half knot]

gotta contact Blockberry Creative's parent company, Levite United, they sell to Israel, so they must have the weapons on hand for such a precision strike

[snow turtle]

Too late I just left Seoul shouldve posted it yesterday

[vapid bronze]

Ask Tim if that's allowed

[dry atlas]

why do you need the reddit link

[acoustic valve]

I will cackle like hell if this ridiculous Dispatch article becomes the reason NJ members are able to null their contract with Hybe without penalties

[dry atlas]

surely hybe/source knows something we dont in the contracts

they cant be that ignorant

[snow turtle]

Unless they are

[waxen musk]

[snow turtle]

[waxen musk]

They haven't really proven their intelligence much.

[half knot]

remember the injunction hearing...

[waxen musk]

Remember BELIFT's video.

[half knot]

remember HYBE saying whatever they wanted and sharing private personal conversations during their 3 day character assassination campaign...

[acoustic valve]

You say that, but they literally started all this shit with all the most ridiculous claims which were all thrown out in a court case that everyone thought was a sure-win for them if even 10% of their claims were true, a court case they lost

[snow turtle]

Hahaahhhhah

[waxen musk]

Any other examples of just how braindead they clearly are?

[arctic sky]

Remember the shamans

[snow turtle]

Thanks ahsbash im in a happy mood again

[half knot]

remember how they handled Garam's scandal?

[dry atlas]

i dont coz idc about non nj

and that was pre nj

[ocean arch]

And they are claiming the planned to debut nj and lsf with just 6 months apart? Which company does that?

[dry atlas]

[strange grove]

at this point its all media play and try to hurt Ador's income by harming their image

[half knot]

remember HYBE probably paying brand reputation to put NJ below 2nd and 3rd gen long disbanded groups?

[distant gulch]

pretty pissed off. hybe is trash

[waxen musk]

#NewJeansNeverDie

Hopefully I'll rest now and not come back to more bs later on.

[short laurel]

U really think that mel 💀 even some reportors said they fedup with hybe pr team.

[ocean arch]

[acoustic valve]

I think so too, worst-case scenario is that all of Hybe's narratives are only for mediaplay and have no legal grounding. This mediaplay still affects Ador's income which is directly related to how much they would need to pay MHJ when she leaves. So it's profitable for them to do all this whether or not it's true

[dry atlas]

im trying to be opposing opinion so you can mob me and i can ban you

[arctic sky]

https://x.com/newjeansnews_/status/1815612207729922233

NEWJEANS NEWS🇰🇷 (@newjeansnews_) on X

[theqoo - hot] ADOR to take legal action after HYBE & Dispatch released false information and leaked personal private videos and medical records of the members, netizens are furious
https://t.co/AWWMOi49LA

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 4:57 AM

[half knot]

I genuinely think this is a case of extreme narcissists and egomaniacs at the top of HYBE having no clue how to manage a publicly facing entertainment company and thinking they can do no wrong and money would solve all their issues if they just keep paying the press and their nonexistent incompetent PR teams to release attack articles and launch lawsuits to cripple MHJ

they may end up being right if MHJ's legal funds run out or she gives up half-way

[arctic sky]

the responses so far have been good

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[half knot]

And their lawyers, PR people and press connections can't say no to their crazy stuff, they have surrounded themselves with Yes-men.

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[half knot]

It sort of reminds me on a smaller scale of Blockberry Creative doing whatever and nobody in their team telling them stop this isn't the right way...

[acoustic valve]

Even if they're not, don't let it affect you. There have been numerous scandals in the past that Knetz have been very wrong on and only much later did they admit it

[arctic sky]

it wont affect i promise

[strange grove]

exactly, don't pay any mind to the internet mob - the tablo stuff comes to mind

[tardy smelt]

do y'all remember MHJ's disastrous first response at the beginning of all this... character development

[short laurel]

I just like to be opposite of hybe. Ban me (pls don't it's a jk)

[snow turtle]

I dont think the first response was disasterous

[cobalt zodiac]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[short laurel]

Disastrous? It was super hit success. Blockbuster hit

[ocean arch]

On a side note we are just 55 members away from hitting 50K

[strange grove]

on first glance it looks bad but she became a meme and won the public over, job done

[acoustic valve]

1st response was more emotional rather than rational... but it was still based on facts that needed to be brought up, things would have played out similarly anyway

[tardy smelt]

i consider it real bad, she opened a can of worms with that debut

[opaque torrent]

i wonder if a contract termination means the put option is also nulled? maybe this is what hybe wanted all along? haha

[strange grove]

unless we're talking something other than the 1st press conf

[opaque torrent]

do you mean the press release where she went straight to revealing her position on illit plagiarism?

[tardy smelt]

even the first presscon was had me grimacing because she got real emotional, understandable though

[acoustic valve]

possible... but very doubtful lol

[cobalt anvil]

wasn’t that disastrous she just cried a lot

[half knot]

you bring up an interesting point. do they think NJ will be more profitable in the long term versus paying MHJ her 200-300 mil starting in november of this year... because if NJ is gone, ador value plummets and her put options become worthless sort of, and on top of that, she still stuck in the non compete until 2029.

[tardy smelt]

yeah, legit first statement she put out

[cobalt anvil]

and then the 2nd one she just smiles

[opaque torrent]

the press conference was amazing... the press release was disappointing... BUT it led to belift's hilarious disastrous documentary

so god the shaman planned things beyond our imaginations

[cobalt anvil]

they literally clowned themselves

[short lynx]

Are you doing good?

[orchid field]

close twitter bro

[tardy smelt]

not talking about the presscon, talking about the first statement, shit got messy really fast with that first one

[short laurel]

Ador janitor. Tell us inside story

[waxen musk]

lol I think I made it sound worse for myself than it actually is. I'm just the type of person to not be able to stop thinking abotu something and it affect me being able to just rest properly. I'm doing fine to be honest. Not as bad as previous months that's for sure! I did say I'm gonna rest now but you two just @ me lol.

[half knot]

imagine if there's another presscon coming if the attacks continue...

[cobalt anvil]

probably so

[zenith spear]

https://tenor.com/view/realacting-show-salute-awkward-janitor-mop-gif-16551045

[orchid field]

there is no inside story, fk fatty bang

[opaque torrent]

ok on a serious note, i think a lot of people were split on the press release tho. personally, i was not pleased despite my allegiance to mhj. i thought it was a bit stan twittery, but i also empathize with her. she told the truth. i think a lot of ppl were split too because she validated their suspicions. but people who thought she was crazy and unhinged were also valid. however, everything that came after, if you're still on hybe's side, you must hate women is where i am at.

[arctic sky]

Ive never had any doubt about mhj tbh even long before this saga unfolded ,its way back before nj even debuted.

[acoustic valve]

make it ppv; she can use the money to fund her legal marathon battle against hybe

[strange grove]

I think she could have done it better, but the end was the desired result. press conferences are basically PR

[half knot]

the police are certainly dragging their feetwith the investigations too

and given how corrupt SK police are..... I don't know how I feel about that

[opaque torrent]

they said hybe filed a lot of complaints 😭

[half knot]

great use of police resources ...

[opaque torrent]

thank god she set the EGM early and filed that injunction

remember we were all ???? when she could've dragged it out longer

[outer bone]

Wait I’m confused what medical records did dispatch leak ab the girls

[acoustic valve]

suspicions of what? crazy and unhinged? Personally, I just saw it as being human rather than a corporate PR drone, but I value humanity and sincerity, many do not....

[orchid field]

i second this, i saw it as extremely humane and sincere

far cry from insane, unhinged, scorthed earth etc.

[half goblet]

nothing specific, its just wrong to leak private information

[valid sierra]

the members and their parents know whats best, and they are standing up with MHJ against hybe. I guess there are more to the story

[opaque torrent]

suspicions - i meant people who thought illit did copy nj. she validated them; thats why a lot of the feedback were split and on her side too

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[half knot]

the only reason she's still standing is because she has the indomitable spirit of memes and shaman's ghosts behind her, she's basically a demon to be able to witstand all this onslaught

[sweet sparrow]

[opaque torrent]

she did channel her demons into red velvet lol
they're still not beating the cult allegations

[acoustic valve]

Yep, pretty much everyone else would have crumbled and just quietly settled with Hybe by relenting to all their ridiculous demands

[strange grove]

unironically true

well maybe chuu and MHJ I guess

[snow turtle]

Chuu mentioned

[acoustic valve]

We don't see cases like this blowing up in Kpop not because it doesn't happen behind the scenes, we don't see it because no lone individuals with little money are willing to stand up in this manner against a corporation and their billions of dollars

[snow turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/belsku-chuu-chuu-loona-loona-chuu-smile-gif-17542851356743330514

[tardy smelt]

exactly this, i fully understand and empathised with why she dropped all that info to defend herself, she was emotional, but man, it could've played out so much cleaner. i physically facepalmed reading her first statement about ILLIT, especially after reading toxic comparisons between NJ and ILLIT days before

[outer bone]

Wait sorry I’m confused did dispatch leak medical records or just the predebut stuff

[opaque torrent]

yes i wish she made it clear she was criticizing belift and not illit; and was vague with the accusations. bullet pointing them in a press conference just made her seem petty

[orchid field]

she did

[acoustic valve]

if it helps, it would have changed nothing. Hybe had plenty left in the barrel to smear her with and to unleash their deranged fandoms against NJ... and they got plenty more left I don't doubt, steel yourself.

[short laurel]

Remember mhj clearly mentioned about issue with illit n lsfm are adults fault not the members. We have to keep this part clear.

[hoary frost]

i cant believe ppl are now saying attention hype boy was created by source music when it is produced by 250 and BANA. and deranged cult is eating this false info up.

[opaque torrent]

and without the. wider context of hybe has been sabotaging newjeans

[strange grove]

no dont you get it the evil MHJ STOLE 250 from Source

[half knot]

that's the most ironic part of it all, they released a video of attention demo and choreo, and we know attention was produced by 250 and BANA ...

and MHJ is even credited as executive producer.

[half goblet]

lol u think kpop stans would have the brain capacity to read and filter out info

[half knot]

see now THAT is what I expect in response hahahaha

[short lynx]

Not this again

[hoary frost]

thats what I am saying as well. they wanted to use mhj's music but did not want to give mhj bigger role than creative director imo

[dry atlas]

didnt she say she's had the debut songs + omg in her pocket since 2019

[opaque torrent]

yep

[hoary frost]

yes

[tiny peak]

HYBE thought attention and hype boy would flop?

[tardy smelt]

speaking of fandoms, i'm absolutely dumbfounded that ARMY got manipulated into this shit when HYBE brought up BTS by leaking the shaman thing themselves 💀

[half knot]

I'll just say again, last time Dispatch released personal stuff without permission, they got sued so hard, they had to pay the victims 100million won each.

[opaque torrent]

i can't believe they see how effective the shaman is and still want to insert their faves into this feud. she can do damage if she wants to

[acoustic valve]

I'm not, kpop fandoms are known for many things, but intelligence and critical thinking is not one of them... if anything, they known for the opposite

[outer bone]

When was that

[half knot]

https://law.go.kr/LSW/precInfoP.do?evtNo=2011나89080

12 years ago

they're usually so careful about such things...

[opaque torrent]

email [e-mail] pls

does sejong have entertainment lawyers?

[half knot]

they have better lawyers than me lol, no need, it's public info anyway

[outer bone]

Did they actually leak medical records?

[half knot]

the more interesting bit is that there was an exchange of money between ador and source with regards to ador taking the trainees to their own company. we know this, both ador and Source have confirmed this

[opaque torrent]

unfrotunately our lady lee sookmi's expertise is M&A

[half knot]

when a company buys trainee contracts, they have exclusive rights to all the trainee stuff before and after, photos, videos, evaluations, etc. so ador owns that stuff and yet source gave dispatch access to the archives.

[opaque torrent]

they leaked evaluation notes that had the girls' injuries.

[outer bone]

Ohhh do they can sue for that fs right?

[opaque torrent]

hybe isnt fighting to win, they're fighting to exhaust and sabotage ador

[short laurel]

Ador gave money to sumu. Yet fearnots were claiming that mhj took their budget. Remember that xD fearnots were even saying lsfm girls designer fit were cheap just to hate on mhj.

[opaque torrent]

im not sure, but i am not an expert. they didnt leak actual doctors notes or x-rays or anything... but maybe, @extra?

however, i think if the girls affected and their guardians raise the issue, they might have legal grounds

[outer bone]

What would they even gain from it since they own 80% of Ador

[snow turtle]

Hope haerin and hyein and whoever else was in the heels video doesnt have to endure too much pain cuz of the leaks

[tardy smelt]

pure ego

[opaque torrent]

diminish ador's value... plus legal fees are $$$$$

[strange grove]

it would first mean Korea would need to have a HIPAA equivalent and I'm not about to pretend I know South Korean law

[opaque torrent]

but in general this is what abusers do (anyone following that iilluminaughtii youtube drama?)

[outer bone]

So they’re gonna keep suing themselves until their own sublabel is dead weight Bruh this is so dumb

[short laurel]

Hybe gas always been dumb.

[strange grove]

suing MHJ not Ador

[short laurel]

Soo many bangpd's interview are dumb even be4 hybe.

[red thorn]

I think their stance is clear, they want to get rid certain individual
Ador's lawyer stated it during presscon 2

[acoustic valve]

They also want to drop NJ/Ador's profit as close to zero as possible until their case with MHJ is settled, which can take years. Because if they don't win against MHJ they will need to pay her a lot of money, an amount directly proportional to Ador's profit

[opaque torrent]

but diminishing ador's value and trying to sabotage newjeans also means mhj's put option wouldnt diminish in value too

[dry atlas]

as with before, if this devolves into a treadmill and only rehashes old stuff, will lock thread for the moment

[strange grove]

u prolly can already tbh

[short laurel]

Bye chat

[tardy smelt]

until the next episode gang 🫡

[outer bone]

But isn’t she using Ador funds since the girls are also involved

[opaque torrent]

NEWJEANS NEVER DIE

[short laurel]

Season 2 just started afterall

[acoustic valve]

life is a treadmill, you can change the speed but never the direction, and it will never stop... until it does

[orchid field]

newjeans never die.

[outer bone]

Oh exactly girls never die we love u triple jeans

[strange grove]

I just think she's rich gang

[outer bone]

She is how’d I forget

[opaque torrent]

if youre friends with big twitter accounts, pls tell them not to engage with bad faith actors ⁷

[dry atlas]

that might be embezzlement idk

[acoustic valve]

not how it works; ador's funds belongs to Hybe, 80% of it anyway

[strange grove]

yeah I don't think you can just appropriate company funds like that lol

[hoary frost]

http://m.cine21.com/news/view/?mag_id=101903

[ripe mango]

holy shi what did I just wake up to

my twt is on fire

[zenith spear]

they just shame bcs they lose the court, so yeah

[arctic sky]

https://x.com/newjeansnews_/status/1815628045295972813

NEWJEANS NEWS🇰🇷 (@newjeansnews_) on X

[theqoo - hot] ADOR releases statement on plagiarism clarification + the truth behind the suing of hateful commenters on DC Gallery Inside
https://t.co/MSLQeNfClo

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 6:00 AM

Such a relief seeing these comments

[dry atlas]

let's take a break

[dry atlas]

ador statement on the dispatch report
https://www.stardailynews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=455215

[dry atlas]

Yap

[hoary frost]

ador long text = bombshell news

[dry atlas]

tldr me

[hoary frost]

me too. no wait i will read it

[ripe mango]

same tldr me too

[hoary frost]

[tardy smelt]

basically calling out Hybe and Source for leaking all this info, and they posted an email screenshot from 2021 countering the claims - dunno what it says yet

[quick wadi]

THEY HAVE RECEIPTS!!!

[quick wadi]

basically saying its all fake news

[hoary frost]

“In particular, it is a breach of contract and a serious felony to expose the privacy of trainees who have already terminated their contracts and artists who have moved to the public without permission and leaking a number of data that violates confidentiality, including medical details, and demos, to the public without permission, to leak relevant data.

not a single competent executive in hybe. love that for them

[hoary frost]

let me get magnifier for this

[valid sierra]

holy, no way hybe is getting out from this one

[tardy smelt]

yeah nah, imma wait for a proper translation and breakdown, this is garble to me

[quick wadi]

CEO Min Hee-jin, who owns ADOR, has already submitted a laptop that she doesn't have to submit to the police to completely resolve his doubts.
And for a transparent investigation, CEO Min Hee-jin asked the police to recover and investigate the laptop owned by Hive.
However, HYBE is not submitting it to the police, saying that the data is stored on the company's server/cloud, not a laptop forensic.

how did it fail to translate hybe the first time but got it the second

[ripe mango]

so the tables have turned

[valid sierra]

maybe that was the topic at the mhj police investigation not long ago

[quick wadi]

Forensing a laptop without member consent is also a felony, but it is a greater crime to have personal conversations stored on the company's server.
Apart from that, if there is data on the server, you will have to work diligently on the content that the police ask for cooperation.

The legal representatives of ADOR and NewJeans are serious, angry, and taking action against the numerous unaward media plays and responses that HYBE is currently committing.

🧑‍🍳

[tardy smelt]

man, all this just in time for my dinner entertainment

[hoary frost]

source copied ador

so mhj presented her own plan of girl group

which was called unconventional and advised to do it under her own label. later source presented theirs and they copied from her

[dry atlas]

agreed

[hoary frost]

and they acknowledged copying

[valid sierra]

i think this one is a content from the email.
https://theqoo.net/hot/3331995690

[quick wadi]

🧑‍🍳

[hoary frost]

yeah, this is it

thank u hybe for being dumb

[red thorn]

Hybe brainstorming for more makjang plot rn

[valid sierra]

ADOR gotta be the protagonist of this drama. because the clapbacks are insane

[dry atlas]

wow I'm missing juciy drama

[quick wadi]

its good karma

[rapid niche]

so thats why they look sad sometimes yesterday. maybe?

bc of this mess.

[hoary frost]

hybe warned mhj not share kkt of their convo but mhj kkts can be shared so freely? where is the shame

[short laurel]

it's funny that this time it's hybe who are not giving the laptops 😂

[rapid niche]

[rapid niche]

cant wait to see the reactions of those hybe stans.

[pulsar steeple]

YEA

[quick wadi]

time to go to s.............

[short laurel]

ooh they will skip through this article actually. as in their usual fashion.

[hoary frost]

hybe violating laws by using data from mhjs old laptop.

[rapid niche]

they will ignore this.

[rapid niche]

we will wait for the tea.

[short laurel]

i c mhj getting blamed for garam again by twitter. though it doesn't make any sense.

sumu and belift messed up. issue is will court acknowledge that hybe is the one behind all this stuff.

[quick wadi]

WHERE IS TAROBOBA!!!!!!!

[arctic sky]

Im getting downvoted like hell on reddit simply for stating that was medical records that was leaked not just medical history lol

[quick wadi]

youre brave for even going on there and stating that

[arctic sky]

i have to

[short laurel]

it's still bad. doesn't matetr if it's small record or full history. privacy is privacy.

[sweet sparrow]

their excuse making it worse LMAO

[valid sierra]

oh hell nah
https://theqoo.net/hot/3331994737

[hoary frost]

it is bad either way

call it medical archive if u want. its violation of privacy

[arctic sky]

yea they are missingout the point

[hoary frost]

the length hybe stans go to defend hybe's wrongdoings. if it were their faves in nj's shoes, they would be screaming justice

[arctic sky]

its sad that they played down the records just for their pleasures and mediaplay

[hoary frost]

welp

[short laurel]

they have been doing it sicne bighit days.

[waxen musk]

"serious illegality that Hive PR committed just yesterday, which has not yet been made public"
WHAT DID THEY DO YESTERDAY?!

[hoary frost]

please reveal

[short laurel]

i think it's talking about everything in last few days.

[quick wadi]

yeah could just be a translation thing

[short laurel]

using NJ to coverup tws bigbang thing

[waxen musk]

Interesting to see how much illegal stuff ADOR is claiming HYBE is doing. Seems pretty clear where this is all leading.

[quick wadi]

hopefully everyones happiness 😭 🙏

[hoary frost]

ohhhhh...wait

them deleting articles...

[quick wadi]

im just going to

[short laurel]

yea.

[quick wadi]

stay off twitter

i was going to post some more wps but um i dont think its a good time

[hoary frost]

no we all need good wps

[short laurel]

twitter is hell rn. all the allegations hybe made againts mhj are comeing back up.

[sweet sparrow]

tokkitim photo dump

[waxen musk]

Heels I can agree is to build skills but it's the song's meaning in the lyrics and also them basically shaking their asses that is obviously what people have way more of an issue with.

[cobalt anvil]

There are a lot of misinformation

Don’t lose yourselves

[arctic sky]

i just blocked 2 accounts lol ,one of them named sniper something lol

[waxen musk]

Sorry this is going back to what happened way earlier today but could someone please explain to me what the purpose of leaking that medial information was for? I know it's wrong, but I just want to know how it's inclusion helped their case against ADOR.

[waxen musk]

👀

[arctic sky]

Just a notice sent out to state the injury and the trainee that sustained it

[short laurel]

good point. i missed that part. why they shared it. how is it related.

[short laurel]

still how is it related?

[waxen musk]

Yeah I know what that content is. Just want to know WHY it's included. I don't understand what it helps them prove.

[arctic sky]

its in the video ,idk for sure how this info was useful but that confidential info that was leaked it seems.

[short laurel]

all it did was harm hybe instead. they claimed that MHJ leaked medical info of a trainee. but that info is nowhere to be seem. while hybe themselves leaked multiple trainees medical record.

[dry atlas]

lol no way

"Finding the Real Me"

isnt this illit concept too

oh wait "Super Real Me"

[red thorn]

I wonder if the pre-debut video performance was the time when they prevented mhj meeting the members
Then sauce would be fully responsible for that

[short laurel]

but that song is credited to bana, 250 and mhj. and they all are in ador

[hoary frost]

source wanted her project after originally refusing it

so i think girls started practicing using her material

but i assume hybe still had issues and was not content with it. hence, dropping the project

[dry atlas]

damn what's this about

[short laurel]

we assuming "yesterday" part is translation error. they are talking about last few days stuff.

[quick wadi]

wait for NJBUBBLEGUM translation

[dry atlas]

i wont

[waxen musk]

Do you think the “not yet been made public” part is also mistranslation though?

[dry atlas]

you can't force me

[short laurel]

who knows. we know google translate is bad. wait for proper translation by njbubblegum.

[quick wadi]

im taking you to court.

[short laurel]

i'll be the judge.

[dry atlas]

my lawyers are same as ador's

[opaque torrent]

bring lee sookmi back!!

[short laurel]

ace attorney

[red thorn]

True could be that
Because honestly whoever responsible for that the presentation is so crass

[acoustic valve]

please god give that woman the fury and anger of the gods to shatter hybe back into a half dozen companies. there will be no better and more righteous messenger

[dry atlas]

what's rkpop saying

[hoary frost]

whyd u ask something u already know

bang papa is always right

[acoustic valve]

not mistranslation, seeing as how that part and speculating on what it exactly is got its own post on theqoo, I'm sure it will be revealed in due time

[opaque torrent]

do male idols do this too , in leggings, and bend over at the camera?

[short laurel]

heels is not the issue. the choreo is the issue.

[waxen musk]

I know you’re not using in the same way here but I always wanted to ask what Twitter people mean by “dozen”

[opaque torrent]

a dime a dozen

[hoary frost]

no one knows what nj experienced better than nj and their parents. youre telling me 10 parents are deluded? sure jan

[opaque torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/shouting-development-dozens-of-us-bald-speaking-gif-16881775

[waxen musk]

Lyrics of the song they were dancing to and choreography is the issue. Not the heels.

[dry atlas]

don't block that one

that's the main wrecker twitter acct

need to be aware of the bullshit

[arctic sky]

lmao

[short laurel]

it's weird for their age. the choreo's and music. unfortunately the entire kpop industry have this problem.

[valid sierra]

tmikpop and sniper, 1st to report on NJ issues

[hoary frost]

maybe same person runs both accs

[short laurel]

tmikpop i regret i opened their post today. so much bad takes in their replies and qrt

[waxen musk]

I’ll just disagree with you and move on lol

[dry atlas]

doesnt sing doesnt dance doesnt look good etc etc

doesnt = dozen

[waxen musk]

Oh ok thanks mel

[opaque torrent]

back in my day, we said "basic"

[upper solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/minji-hani-danielle-hyein-haeran-gif-26271404

[waxen musk]

I’m saying wearing heels to dance and the specific moves they were doing are two separate discussions that your putting into one

[dry atlas]

ok drop it

[quick wadi]

for real

[short laurel]

sesh i was typing something and u guys stopped it.

[quick wadi]

send it

[opaque torrent]

hybe really thinks bts is their get out of jail free card

[quick wadi]

ill just time you out for a very long time

[short laurel]

ban them now tim

[acoustic valve]

having the girls train with some "controversial" choreo and music might be a problem, but it's less problematic than having it be part of their music and concept after debut. Similarly, it's an entirely different story when Hybe leaks pre-debut footage(when all subjects are minors) of this sort for artists that have already debuted; it's nasty and I hope the members sue the fuck out of Hybe and Dispatch

[opaque torrent]

y'all lets not turn on each other

[hoary frost]

i want bang pd kkt messages leaked so bad

[quick wadi]

and now i remember why i strongly dislike this thread

[dry atlas]

lock it

fucking heel dance is irrelevant

[short laurel]

biggest issue is. sumu staff are known creeps and those are making them do it.

[hoary frost]

pls dont derail

[short laurel]

ohk.

[hoary frost]

im waiting translations

[short laurel]

so MHJ fighting back. NJ never die

[dry atlas]

someone send another thing about heel dance go

[waxen musk]

When hasn’t she. But yeah I only see this going one way now. Ador will not allow all these illegal things.

[acoustic valve]

yeah, and now they just providing proof for it

[short laurel]

only issue is if she can prove that it's hybe controling sumu and belift to do all that harm.

[hoary frost]

what can free ador from hybe realistically? if it is proven that they didnt fulfill duty ?

[short laurel]

yea.

[waxen musk]

Hybe keep breaking laws I guess might be enough

[quick wadi]

do you want to see me heel dance

[short laurel]

hybe executives not only harmign interest of ador but interest of hybe too.

[opaque torrent]

idk if you can free a company but i think the artists and creatives have a good case

[dry atlas]

YES

I WILL KEEP THREAD OPEN FOREVER UNTIL YOU SEND

[hoary frost]

lets say there is such scenario where hybe loses. is this gonna make ador independent? just curious about details how it works

[short laurel]

okay mel. no taking back

[opaque torrent]

no they still owe 80%

[hoary frost]

then how will it make ador more free than now?

[opaque torrent]

but newjeans and mhj can leave w/o paying a bazillion dollars

and set up their own company with mhj's put option

[short laurel]

i heard there are cases where shareholder lose to right to say anything in the company. but idk how it'll go for this case and in korea.

[hoary frost]

ahhhh thats logical

[dry atlas]

is the qoo still a safe space?

[hoary frost]

yea

[vapid bronze]

This thread is open again

[opaque torrent]

yah.... im telling you dc planned an attack with the plagiarism smear; thats why it seemed overwhelming

[short laurel]

when comment section in qoo is purely anti-mhj. u know it's hybe bots. if it's mixed then it's safe.

[hoary frost]

Even Monika, a renowned dancer in Korea had a problem with this dance. Do you still believe this is normal stuff for teens to dance?

[acoustic valve]

hybe also used the girls for bts mv without asking mhj first

[hoary frost]

and nj gets dragged by hybe military bc of some privilege

[vapid bronze]

PTD wow.

[opaque torrent]

i hate that song

vindicated.

[vapid bronze]

It's too locally for me lmao

[hoary frost]

all the articles that used bts name was def hybe pr's work to reassure inventors. mhj would rather have "mhj gg" plaster in every headline

[opaque torrent]

babygirl's earned it

[vapid bronze]

Anyways I'm going to sleep, hopeful more good news will appear.

[quick wadi]

@rapid niche just informed me that he will be doing the heel dance instead

[valid sierra]

armys were saying that mhj used BTS to promote NJ. and now this.

[dry atlas]

lemme check rkpop

[tardy smelt]

oh it's wonderful in there

[hoary frost]

good luck. wishing u all the best. stay strong

[acoustic valve]

why would u do that ugh

[tardy smelt]

they all sound salty asf

[hoary frost]

they hate woman winning

ok lets not again or this thread is gonna get locked

[ripe mango]

whats going on

[tardy smelt]

ADOR statement

[hoary frost]

we are trying to attain nirvana amidst hybe's attacks

[dry atlas]

nothing yet just the usuals

might be too early

ill check again tomorrow

[hoary frost]

until NJ1 we gonna get back and forth between hybe and ador? damn

[ripe mango]

probably

[hoary frost]

did you even read what I sent

[tardy smelt]

this is the post comeback content they were talking about

[rapid niche]

are you not busy?

choose: heel dance or wps?

[hoary frost]

*x https://x.com/newjeans_1751/status/1815623072629895585?s=46&t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA

[harsh dove]

@NewJeans_1751 <t:1721713247:d>

[ripe mango]

I would say the practice video is provocative but I thought those were normal in dance acadamies

[dry atlas]

hahahaha

is it time

[ripe mango]

time to disappear out

[hoary frost]

normal in adult dance academies.

[dry atlas]

ok

lol

[quick wadi]

dang it i wanted to do it!!

[dry atlas]

*x -c https://x.com/juantokki/status/1815713680077849081

1tokki (@juantokki) on X

[Full Statement] ADOR: "Reports of 'Min Hee-jin Taking NewJeans' Are False, Will Take Strong Legal Action"
https://t.co/RqEuxKjxFC
By Lee Seonmyung

Entertainment agency ADOR has refuted claims that CEO Min Hee-jin took trainees from Source Music and delayed their debut.

On the

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 11:40 AM

[quick wadi]

nice miso

[dry atlas]

*x https://x.com/juantokki/status/1815715089636561260

[harsh dove]

@juantokki <t:1721735186:d>

[dry atlas]

i hope ador does do something

not just threaten hybe in these press releases

[dry atlas]

https://x.com/SOURCEMUSIC/status/1815733255267918109?t=bpWFpPk9u6Nm2hO7thrbPg&s=19

SOURCEMUSIC (@SOURCEMUSIC) on X

쏘스뮤직에서 알려드립니다.

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 12:58 PM

[dry atlas]

HYBE CEO Park Ji-won resigns
https://news.mtn.co.kr/news-detail/2024072411322848417

(maybe? no other site has reported on it)

[quick wadi]

Twitter going crazy

[dry atlas]

i dont see any

my feed is blessed

[quick wadi]

Well I’m on tokki twt

[ocean arch]

[hushed whale]

[serene cloud]

Maybe a scapegoat of the falling stick price

[short laurel]

Reading the article. I m mad how they say nj group has his contribution

[arctic sky]

NJ KARMA

[ocean arch]

Can u tldr us pls

[buoyant hamlet]

[arctic sky]

How sweet it tastes

[quick wadi]

blast not like us

[short laurel]

Just praising his work. Which anyone from his nixon days can say is a big lie.

[shut kelp]

is this good? i thought it was bang PD behind this?

[gleaming scarab]

this is truly crazy

[shut kelp]

or both?

[ocean arch]

If he's doing such a great work why would he resign?

[short laurel]

He's just puppet. Shareholders like him but consumers nvr liked him.

[shut kelp]

mmmm okok

1 down 1 to go 🙏

[buoyant hamlet]

One reason is likely pressure from investors of his handling of internal matters to make the stock drop. Korean National Pension withdrew quite a bit that made the stock drop

[sweet sparrow]

[shut kelp]

honestly they shoulda pressured bang too

[short laurel]

My issue is it feels like he got away freely.

[buoyant hamlet]

Park Ji-won was his scapegoat

[twin cypress]

Maybe bro realized how bad source messed up and resigned before this gets super bad for them cause if newjeans is able to split from hybe that’s a big hit to the stocks

[shut kelp]

this is what im hoping

[sweet sparrow]

[short laurel]

Funny thing Bang is hated by army too. He made too many wrong decisions n bad interviews. He still gets away no issue cuz he's majority shareholder

[shut kelp]

are u sure? i've seen some spiritual armies praising him hybe and bts 😂

[twin cypress]

I wouldn’t not be able to come to this conclusion on my own with the amount of tweets defending bang I see from tiny 7s and fearnots on twitter

[shut kelp]

they lit candles and such

[upbeat stream]

A lot of armies still defend him while others have turned on him since he assosciated with scooter

[short laurel]

Thing is that fandom is split. Army hates army n left Twitter. Even here on nj cord there are bts fans who hate army. Find the right community on twitter n ull might c them. Rare in loud fans though

[opaque torrent]

i need the gif of newjeans dancing while hybe building is on fire

[frozen granite]

So it’s only BSH who is left ?

[shut kelp]

hopefully this a step in the right direction for ador newjeans and mhj so we can finally put this behind them

[short laurel]

Bsh n his other puppets in belift n somu

[dry atlas]

can hybe investors decide to kick out mhj from ador too?

[shut kelp]

ohh okay

[frozen granite]

But he’s the only CEO correct ?

[opaque torrent]

no bsh has to defend her 🤭

[short laurel]

I doubt mel. Ador is subsidiary of hybe. Not part of hybe. So it's it's own entity. Plus they not have valid reason too. Remember the injunction result.

[dry atlas]

yeah i thought so

[buoyant hamlet]

I wonder who the successor will be

[quick wadi]

Me

[short laurel]

After what they did yesterday? I doubt it.
If they were really looking to reconcile. Past week incident will not happen

[frozen granite]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-how-sweet-newjeans-kpop-newjeans-dance-newjeans-music-newjeans-performance-gif-17886156259907346097

We will be celebrating

[buoyant hamlet]

A lot of questions moving forward for Hybe, but I know MHJ is smoking on that Park Ji-won pack tonight

[shy schooner]

watch it be lsm

[short laurel]

Someone pls English me. My brain not working

[twin cypress]

Guys what song was Danielle on phoning today singing that had the curse word in it?

[proud flax]

https://tenor.com/view/ferass18-gif-7869831930024597864

[short laurel]

Hi evan

[proud flax]

hey nami

[dry atlas]

http://www.koreatimes.com/article/20240702/1520529

Another article from a lawyer. I believe he specializes in labor law. MHJ comes up, because he is talking about several high profile cases where employers viewed the Kakaotalk of employees.

그런데 문제는 민 대표가 자기의 개인적인카카오톡 자료의 활용에 대해 하이브에 동의를 한 사실이 없기 때문에 이는 불법이라고 법조계는보고 있다.

The problem is CEO Min didn't agree to the use of her personal Kakaotalk data by Hybe. The legal profession/community view this as being illegal.

또한 법원은 하이브가 제출한 민 대표의 카카오톡 내용이 영업비밀이 아니라고 봤는데 그 이유는 하이브가 이 카카오톡 내용이 민 대표의 위법수집 증거인지 아닌지 판단조차 않고 영업비밀에 해당하는 가치가 없다고 판단했기 때문이다.

Also, the court determined that the content of the Kakotalk submitted by Hybe isn't considered trade secret. The reason being Hybe didn't even make a determination if collecting the content of MHJ's Kakaotalk would be considered an illegal collection of evidence. That is why it was judged not worth it to consider the content as being trade secret.

민 대표의 카카오톡 대화 내용을 모두 입수한 다음에 이를 언론 보도할 경우 이는 사적 사찰, 민간인 사찰 등과 관련하여 문제가 되는 사안이 될 수 있다. 그렇기 때문에 하이브가 카카오톡 대화 내용 등을 언론에 유출해 보도하게 하는 것은, 중대한 불법행위이자 계약상 침해사유라고 볼 수 있다.

In the case where the entirety of CEO Min's Kakaotalk conversation was obtained and released to the press, it could be problematic since it is inspecting private matters, matters of a civilian nature, etc. That is why Hybe's leak of the Kakaotalk and reporting by the press could be seen as a grave illegal act, and a serious breach of her contract.

즉, 하이브가 언론 등에 공개한 민 대표와 무속인과의 개인적인 카카오톡 대화 내용 등을 민 대표의동의없이 언론에 공개한 행위는 한국의 통신 비밀 보호법 위반 및 정보 통신망 이용 촉진 및 정보 보호 등에 관한 법률 위반에 따라 형사 처벌 가능성이 있는 행위에 해당할 수 있다

The private Kakaotalk including the conversation between CEO Min and the Shaman revealed to the press by Hybe might have broken Korea's Protection of Communications Secrets Act and Network Act which includes information protection. There is a possibility of criminal punishment from breaking these laws.

old one but still applies

[short laurel]

Taroboba shared here previous case about dispatch being sued n had to pay 100m or 100k won to each victims for leaking private info.
This time both dispatch n somu n hybe will have to pay big money to mhj n nj n other trainees whose face were hidden for all the things they leaked. Dispatch even posted the videos on YouTube.

Whatever hybe paid dispatch to leak all that. I hope fines be more than that amount.

[placid rose]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1162008781274755082/1190803346412544140/attachment.gif

mhj rn

[sweet sparrow]

[somber pumice]

Check his hard drives

[ocean arch]

Technically somu own the dance practice video right? Then that's not leaking private info?

[steep torrent]

did this end up being a mistranslation

[dry atlas]

no

reading the tokkis translation-- google does a nice job

i dont remember any context being lost

[steep torrent]

damn I wonder what they did

[short laurel]

Videos shot by somu but still requires members consent. So no. Olus they were ment for training. Not to be published to the world

[cyan rivet]

Is it good to us?

[dry atlas]

[twin cypress]

It probably means stuff is about to get real cause CEOs don’t just resign for fun

[cyan rivet]

Hmm

Plz ador win

[cobalt zodiac]

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[short lynx]

Man i just want the girls to be okay

[shut kelp]

i think they will be fine if hanni says they're fine and not to worry we should keep supporting them and ignore those fandoms

[short lynx]

I hope they’ll be fine because this could really have an impact on their mental health

[cobalt zodiac]

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[upper solstice]

lighting up this jiwon pack

[acoustic valve]

Hybe investors have the same rights in regards to Ador as Hybe's executives; Hybe's executives are representing Hybe's shareholders afterall.
So the short answer is no.

[acoustic valve]

CEOs usually don't resign when things are going well. So as far as Hybe losing = Ador winning, it's a good sign for NJ

[tardy smelt]

they're stronger than you think, gotta trust they'll be alright and continue showing love

[short lynx]

Of course they’re strong, its just that situations like this are so unnecessary lol

[short lynx]

Praying fr

They’ve worked so hard for where they are now

[shy schooner]

They prob stronger than we think

[short laurel]

ador also giving them break. so even if they are feeling down cuz of it. i m sure ador will provide them with all the support they need.

[red thorn]

[Sports Today Reporter Hyeyoung Yoon] HYBE, the agency, has revealed its position regarding the news of CEO Jiwon Park's resignation.
On the afternoon of the 24th, a representative from Hive told Sports Today regarding the report of CEO Park Ji-won's resignation, "Nothing has been decided."
Earlier, Money Today Broadcasting reported that CEO Park Ji-won would resign after four years of joining Hive.

[short laurel]

so we not have to worry for them and keep showing our support for them.

[short laurel]

"nothing has been decided" pretty much means it's confirmed.

hybe stocks at 178k btw.

[acoustic valve]

"nothing has been decided" in response to a news article stating your CEO is stepping down is basically confirmation it's happening. Just not confirming it to minimize uncertainty until they're ready to announce new CEO and have them step in.

[lucid yarrow]

what are the chances they can make MHJ the new ceo?

[dry atlas]

shareholders vote on that no? and bang pd and his posse has most shares

so i don't think it's likely lol

[short laurel]

if bang shares were smaller. non of this stuff would've happened the way it happened. they are just self harming themselves since it all started.

but he controls everything sadly

[red thorn]

The day Jiwon broke up with Hybe
ETA day

[elfin pewter]

When MHJ mentioned that CEO in her press conference, I felt like among all these people, there was at least one person who seemed logical and supported her.

[acoustic valve]

0%

[cyan rivet]

Let's gaurr

[cyan rivet]

In our dream

I was thinking about it too

[lucid yarrow]

in an alterative world hybe bought sm bang didnt lose money so he didnt need cut MHJ pay with this stupid scheme and MHJ is made the new ceo a new Kpop era begins not....

[acoustic valve]

The only way I see it happening is if Hybe fails so bad that Lee Soo Man ends up coming in and saving the company by buying it, and then he puts mhj in that role. But even then, I don't think she necessarily wants the headache, but who knows

He did make a pretty penny with all the overpriced shares Hybe paid him for SM though, he got free money lying around

[valid sierra]

its a good sign tho, a CEO resigning means the shareholders are now pressuring them