#NJZ Updates and Discussion

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fierce cloak
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i wish she talk more, her philosophy and artistic value is world class

placid rose
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I love ADOR of Min Hee Jin

dry atlas
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thank god for theqoo

mild mist
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Minji ditto closing scene .gif

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fierce cloak
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modern fog
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opal zodiac
frozen granite
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How is MHJ single?! (That’s if she is) she’s so sweet & interesting

shut kelp
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is she apologized to the groups here do u think those stans would even accept it?

fierce cloak
cerulean sail
spark trout
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frozen granite
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omg good for her! honestly better that way

ocean arch
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I still hope to see nj on Na-pd's label wide all groups variety program

opal zodiac
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i think she said shes also close to family of members like brothers and sisters, i need danis sister to debut solo at ador danioops

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frozen granite
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We need HANNI’s mom to debut !

rose turret
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Crazy

ocean arch
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Nugu?

fierce cloak
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ngl mhj has big heart ngl, normal people would want revenge and burn hybe to the ground

strange grove
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Yup, it's been the overall tone of her today that she's willing to work things out. Doubt HYBE is though.

frozen granite
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opal zodiac
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they needa wrap this up....danistare

waxen musk
clever zephyr
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wait I can talk again

fierce cloak
dry atlas
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joongang cooked

waxen musk
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holy text wall

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can you read it to me i'm too tired

copper jetty
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That's a lot mel

waxen musk
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sounds interesting about her phylosophy right? need to read later

dry atlas
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i don't even know if the time is accurate

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lee sookmi did NOT talk 2 mins ago

shut kelp
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maybe she whispered

copper jetty
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Yeah. There's been a lot of back and forth

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Maybe they had slow internet to post all this

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I wonder if HYBE is gonna take the olive branch. I'm really curious or will this drag on?

fierce cloak
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lmao she Loves to talk HanniLul

copper jetty
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Yap

brave stone
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This better not drag on like pack it up everyone is tired of this 🙏

modern fog
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MHJ ASMR next episode

copper jetty
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There's never gonna be an asmr with the way she yaps.

fierce cloak
opal zodiac
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tldr: shes trying to be a teacher to newjeans and along with all the other teachers she brings along (ador staff) she wants to teach the girls how to fish not just give them fishes. end goal is to just live happy lives

shut kelp
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she should have a podcast epi on phoning cos this girl can talk for hours hooooleee

spark trout
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what's she saying about Attention

fierce cloak
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copper jetty
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Ohhh

frozen granite
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Hybe please be the white knight ! ahaerinwbye

opal zodiac
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HURT mv was filmed in 1hr haha

copper jetty
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She better wrap this up before the music bank today.

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opal zodiac
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actually just yapping now...

tawdry vessel
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HYBE asked her/them(ador) when NWJNS debuted and did so well "how come you guys earn so much? while spending so little? you film all these MVs and your spending is so small" aHaerinLaugh \

copper jetty
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Reporters have a lot of questions. Is nobody moderating this press conference?

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tiny peak
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LOL she said the lawyers are expensive

waxen musk
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worth

fierce cloak
frozen granite
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For the next album I want a MHJ version

dry atlas
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why she yapping about mbti now

copper jetty
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But considering they won against HYBE twice now. Yeah worth it.

fierce cloak
copper jetty
ocean arch
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OT6 ver

arctic sky
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mhj is a professional yappers lol

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dry atlas
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adhd now

copper jetty
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NJ has no fillers.

fierce cloak
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did she said adhd?

dry atlas
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wth

tiny peak
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LOL this is peak yapping

hoary frost
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ADHD LOL

gaunt flame
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Im a good listener, i can listen to mhj yap for hours

ocean arch
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Adds up

frozen granite
acoustic valve
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she should be a livestreamer

waxen musk
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i cant imagine a full nj album tbh most albums have songs that dont get full attention whereas all nj songs get full attention

copper jetty
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Bunnies would be streaming that lol

dry atlas
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way behind

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ok i disregard the time

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x_ @AboutMusicYT <t:1717137149:d>

The cardigan that Min Heejin wore has been sold out.

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acoustic valve
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true

opal zodiac
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reporters are trying to bait her so badly

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copper jetty
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I didn't like it though. I was wanting more and the supernatural ep isn't until 3 weeks away

shut kelp
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shut kelp
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....

hoary frost
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shes defending it fairly well tho

brave stone
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Bro they gotta drop that

serene cloud
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i mean that's an obvious question

waxen musk
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she already told them to shut up about that earlier lol

copper jetty
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They should just wrap this up if it's like this

shy schooner
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easy for reporters to misinterpret

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strange grove
opal zodiac
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reporter asked "have you changed your mind about that? if things like this happen again are you going to bring it up to the company again?"

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"have you changed your mind about that" is obvious bait

shut kelp
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yea they want something spicy lol

waxen musk
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they're basically asking if she's gonna keep her mouth shut if she doesnt agree with hybe in the future lol what a thing to ask

ocean arch
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What abt the belift's defamation law suit?

copper jetty
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I guess no one is moderating this. Is this how standard press conference in Korea is?

opal zodiac
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omg

serene cloud
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what

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fierce cloak
brave stone
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She literally said that if they don’t want to hurt people to shut up but here they are bringing up stuff she prolly doesn’t care about anymore

opal zodiac
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"i wanted to get everyone whos supported me and tell them to come out to my house and i would throw money in the air for them, $1000 each"

waxen musk
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oh hell yeah

shut kelp
serene cloud
frozen granite
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What’s her address ??? Omw

spark trout
copper jetty
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Not worth to fly to Korea. Tickets is 1500 dollars already

waxen musk
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wtf is happening now lol

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fierce cloak
shy schooner
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I will be there. Use that money on NJ albums

waxen musk
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audience laughs. next moment she cries. wtf lol

fierce cloak
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aww why she's crying now

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frozen granite
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I want to hug her so bad tokkisob

fierce cloak
spark trout
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yeah

dry atlas
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is she talking about the aesthetic pics of the new albums

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she keeps reposting

waxen musk
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yeah i guessed same

acoustic valve
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did she say what her mbti was

serene cloud
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i really think she and bsh loathe each other

copper jetty
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I would talk about it too. It's too pretty

acoustic valve
hoary frost
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harsh doveBOT
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x_ @newjeansnews_ <t:1717139346:d>

[🎙️👩‍💼Min Heejin - Press Conference]

👩‍💼: i was able to survive through it because of Bunnies and the (member’s) mothers & the members
👩‍💼: the mothers would call me everyday and check on me in case i did anything on impulse
👩‍💼: they’d ask if i was doing okay, if i had eaten so yesterday we all cried and went crazy when we won

acoustic valve
fierce cloak
copper jetty
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I love NJ moms

silk skiff
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As an introvert I would not yap this much in front of complete strangers

waxen musk
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-home

tall dewBOT
dry atlas
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yes

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done

hoary frost
fierce cloak
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warpped up now, near 2h!

copper jetty
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Yeah. They're finished

modern fog
shut kelp
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should we just close this thread now lol

serene cloud
waxen musk
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yh prob

dry atlas
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that guy has a penis on his shirt

shut kelp
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?????

shy schooner
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I would pay money for her lectures

waxen musk
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WHO???

brave stone
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HELP

copper jetty
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What?

acoustic valve
dry atlas
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it's all women lol

fierce cloak
shut kelp
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OHH thats the white shirt u were talking about LOOOL

mild mist
waxen musk
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oh wtf mel lol

copper jetty
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Oh

shut kelp
half knot
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lol did they just ask for her autograph haha

dry atlas
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it's a plane smh guys..

opaque torrent
acoustic valve
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hi touch moment of fansign

fierce cloak
hoary frost
dry atlas
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replay now

waxen musk
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replay started i think

shut kelp
copper jetty
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Now it's up to HYBE. Lol.

dry atlas
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ok see you in mubank

waxen musk
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every time something happens with nj they keep you up close enough for the next thing to happen (music bank) so i can NEVER SLEEP

frigid mason
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ENTP, being labeled as “debater” on 16 personalities is oddly fitting

shy schooner
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music festival too after

serene cloud
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which one

waxen musk
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theyre not even performing i assume just there for encore (mubank) ASSUMING

half knot
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lol I just want the girls to thank CEO-nim at least in passing during their victory speech
THAT would rile up the hybedrones on reddit and twitter

strange grove
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I will just say before the thread is closed, I'm glad MHJ is choosing the route of reconciliation/compromise instead of the scorched earth path. If nothing else for her own mental health.

mild mist
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RIP thread

Until the next press release that is
🫡

ocean arch
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Theres a meeting on June 10th ?

valid sierra
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x_ @CakeDegg <t:1717135446:d>

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waxen musk
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nothing is over but i just hope things can continue as planned before the mess. it's what mhj wants and is what hybe should want because it will do well for them.

half knot
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she's giving hybe an off-ramp

brave stone
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Hoping all the groups under Hybe can just hug and make up now that mhj is willing to reconcile with Hybe 🙏

half knot
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let's see if they'll bite, there is still a way to get over this

brave stone
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Cause that takes gut and props to her

fierce cloak
frigid mason
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Let’s see what redditors on /kpop has to say 👀

strange grove
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No point.

copper jetty
half knot
strange grove
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fierce cloak
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the amount stock lost or gain truly go along with mhj out or in HanniDevious

short laurel
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i m back. jeanscry

dry atlas
waxen musk
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I cannot see how the supposed Hybe wanting to "sabotage" NJ to make getting rid of MHJ cheap as possible can be as beneficial as just letting NJ do what they can and become even more sucessful. I said this weeks ago though I guess BSH's pettiness is not to be understood. I hope for th best.

dry atlas
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oh she talked about minji wearing mhjcore

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lmao

lethal terrace
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I’m hopeful that everything planned will continue without problems and that everyone’s mental health stays ok

shut kelp
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so wait are the girls not attending mbc?

acoustic valve
half knot
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these chosun guys are the ones who were hybe mouthpieces throughout

shut kelp
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https://x.com/newjiram/status/1796439693841846540

nil 𝜗𝜚 (@newjiram) on X

At the start of today’s press conference, K-nets urged each other on social media not to view it though MBC but to watch from KBS & SBS instead because of how they portrayed MHJ’ first press con.

MBC remained quiet & when the ‘Jeans’ controversy began, they were the first to +

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snow turtle
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Hi guys im back

fierce cloak
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x_ @newjeansnews_ <t:1717140164:d>

[🎙️👩‍💼Min Heejin - Press Conference]

👩‍💼: What’s really important to me is how we can teach the members and how we should shape them as humans
👩‍💼: I always say this to the members, our contract period is a time to study with me, I am the teacher and I will bring in a lot of good professors to give you lessons
👩‍💼: So in these 7 years, study about what you want to achieve after that in the future, you won’t stay with me forever
👩‍💼: It’s like creating a road for them to practice how to live and feed themselves in the future
👩‍💼: It’s like if your mother kept doing everything for you and then she disappears how will you survive?
👩‍💼: Within the 7 years they may want to aspire to do many other things and maybe even go abroad — so for them to branch out and do their own thing in the future, it’s important to do everything while they are still young

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x_ @newjeansnews_ <t:1717140674:d>

[🎙️👩‍💼Min Heejin - Press Conference]

👩‍💼: Our Hurt MV i think we shot it in 1hour… We didn’t have any production costs for it
👩‍💼: When we shot the Attention MV i went to the director and said “we don’t have any money but i want to film a MV for this — so let’s film all the faces of the girls and show all their faces”
👩‍💼: because the fans like that and since in the main MV u can’t just show their faces alone bcos it won’t be fun if there’s too much
👩‍💼: but to see all their faces let’s put it in the b-side MV

She also said their MV’s have lower production costs compared to the average MV

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x_ @newjeansnews_ <t:1717141275:d>

[🎙️👩‍💼Min Heejin - Press Conference]

👩‍💼: It’s really important to have the opinions of their parents
👩‍💼: Because to decide on when we are having a concert, what plans we have or how we should go about the members conditions — it’s hard for us to decide on it so it’s better to work if we have the opinions and communication with the parents
👩‍💼: the parents sometimes ask, “CEO you must be busy we talked to you for an hour?”
👩‍💼: This doesn’t hinder with how busy i am because i consider it as my work and to do this is part of the job of being a CEO

PREACH🙌

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🥹

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🥹

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oh mhj had kbs interview..

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https://www.youtube.com/live/hbBjd3GqogA?si=Vys5KcRpH_RS9c4I

YouTube
KBS News
[🔴민희진 KBS 뉴스9 단독 인터뷰 풀영상]'화해 제안' 민희진, KBS 뉴스 스튜디오 찾은 이유는?/'민희진의 난' ...

'어도어' 민희진 대표가 오늘(31일) KBS의 대표 뉴스인 '뉴스9'에 출연했습니다. 오늘(31일) 낮, 두 번째 기자회견을 연 민 대표가 KBS 뉴스 스튜디오에서 직접 심경을 밝혔는데요.KBS '뉴스9' 출연 풀영상을 전해드립니다. #민희진 #뉴진스 #어도어 #하이브 #ADOR...

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gaunt flame
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@rapid niche please help me translate senpai

somber pumice
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@rapid niche Please translate

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dry atlas
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oh ok nothing new

dry atlas
rapid niche
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@gaunt flame @somber pumice ssibal.

dry atlas
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June 10 - earliest when board of directors can convene (and can potentially vote to dismiss MHJ)

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Interesting writeups here
1: https://www.fortunekorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=38719
2: https://www.fortunekorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=38822

포춘코리아(FORTUNE KOREA)
[Different Dreams, HYBE]①경영독립과 창작자율은 별개?...방시혁의 착각

자산규모 5조2500억원, 국내 재계 순위 85위. 5월 공정거래위원회가 하이브(HYBE)를 엔터테인먼트 업계 최초로 공시대상기업 집단으로 지정했다. 1세대 대형 기획사로 꼽히는 SM, JYP, YG가 미처 오르지 못한 공식 대기업 반열에 하이브가 이름을 새긴 셈이다. '대기업 데뷔' 첫 해이지만 하이브는 이 순간을 마땅히 즐기지 못하고 있다. 핵심 레이블 ‘어도어’와의 충돌이 한달여째 이어지면서다. 서로 다른 생각을 좁히지 못한 방시혁 의장과 민희진 어도어 대표는 끝내 각자만의 길을 택하는 모습이다. 김나윤·문상덕 기자 abc12

포춘코리아(FORTUNE KOREA)
[Different Dreams, HYBE]②어도어는 하이브와 무관?...민희진의 착각

※'[Different Dreams, HYBE]①경영독립과 창작자율은 별개?...방시혁의 착각'에서 이어집니다.방시혁 하이브 의장과 민희진 어도어 대표는 ‘K팝 산업의 글로벌 확장’이라는 원대한 꿈을 함께 꾸며 단란한 ‘한 식구’ 생활을 시작했다.그러나 5년 만에 두 사람은 '다른 식구'로 갈라섰다. 독자적인 첫 레이블이라며 어도어를 대대적으로 홍보했지만 정작 수년간 ‘일거수일투족’ 관여해 온 하이브의 세계관과, 모기업의 절대적인 지원 공세 속에서 성공적으로 뉴진스를 배출했지만 정작 ‘내 것’이라고 주장하는 어도어의 세계관이 달라도

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includes details of early ador, timeline of this drama

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thanks to tikki and team

dry atlas
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certified HUH moment

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dry atlas
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it's probably on x too but if you want some entertainment, go read kpop megathread and see them going mad over some stickers

quick wadi
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read some qrts

dry atlas
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idk I've blocked some armys

quick wadi
dry atlas
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guys

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tim

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can we talk about the belift vid

quick wadi
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umm

tawdry vessel
quick wadi
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could potentially turn really bad but we are probably all just going to call out belift anyway

dry atlas
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oh hey

tawdry vessel
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who let belift cooked 😭

proud flax
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NEWJEANS ARE TIME TRAVELERS

dry atlas
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i need my theqoo membership

quick wadi
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alright time to close chat now

dry atlas
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i think the yappers left honestly

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smh only wanted yapping not actual fans of nj

gleaming scarab
short laurel
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close it tim

quick wadi
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not even namiko has anything to say

tawdry vessel
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lets just ignore this shit, im tired

short laurel
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i have simething to say tim

quick wadi
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🙂

short laurel
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https://x.com/juantokki/status/1800095755321196722 this. what was belift thinking when they wrote this

1tokki🫧 (@juantokki) on X

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS BELIFT??? WTH?

NOT 뉴진스 10대지만 어른들의 상상 속 로망의 대상
NOT 블랙핑크 다가갈 수 없는 완벽한 셀러브리티
NOT 아이브 누가 봐도 인형같고 공주같은 선망의 대상

NOT NewJeans, although in their teens, are the object of adult fantasies and dreams
NOT

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dry atlas
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their source is dcgall

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ok lock this thread i have what i need from theqoo

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can't wait to see reddit

valid sierra
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i really hope ADOR would take this seriously and sue them for all of these. This is sooo messed up

short laurel
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bye bye

mortal willow
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wait so what does the video say?

dry atlas
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guys watch 2D1N

ripe mango
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oh shit

hoary frost
tawdry vessel
ripe mango
quick wadi
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let’s focus on hyein!

dry atlas
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i wonder if mhj will care to respond

quick wadi
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Not even worth it but I hope they do

dry atlas
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and now belift namedropped a bunch of groups

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i better see the same energy from the people

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pannchoa wake up

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New Jeans brought by Belif Lab also edited the photo to say that they copied hanbok from other girl groups.

original vs edited

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gahd damn they found the filter button

harsh doveBOT
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x_ @Phamkuromi <t:1718012844:d>

If you're so obsessed with photos taken at the beach, then here u go @BELIFTLAB

Girls’ Generation photobook “Girls in Tokyo” at beach - by MIN HEE JIN in 2010

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quick wadi
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this is insane

dry atlas
quick wadi
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Hope we get sued Mel

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btw read the comments on Belift’s vid

dry atlas
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yk you fucked up when even the company stans on reddit is turning on you

rapid niche
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i dont want to watch the vid.

dry atlas
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a lot

quick wadi
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even dia got mentioned

rapid niche
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💀

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BBZ nugu?

dry atlas
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viviz probably lol

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swift spire
gaunt flame
cinder verge
swift spire
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Hopefully somu and belift will lose tokkisob

proud flax
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we back?

cinder verge
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man fuck hybe

swift spire
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Do we have any timing or dates for the lawsuit process/news

vapid bronze
hoary frost
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hi guys someone summarise whats happening rn

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im a lil slow

gleaming scarab
dry atlas
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oh ok

hoary frost
dry atlas
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if mhj loses belift or source lawsuits, hybe can get rid of her because of a clause in her contract

hoary frost
dry atlas
quick wadi
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oh no why is this back.

dry atlas
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dont close it

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i will close you if you do

quick wadi
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how can you open this channel without navier back.

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and @acoustic valve

dry atlas
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let's see maybe it will die on its own

white arch
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What happend

snow turtle
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can i bomb it again

hoary frost
white arch
hoary frost
white arch
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Bye.

hoary frost
upper solstice
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ITS SO OVER

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I hate seeing redditors receiving good news

hoary frost
gaunt flame
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😭

snow turtle
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hahahahahahahahahahhha

tawdry vessel
dry atlas
wet jewel
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no wonder the megathread was open

tawdry vessel
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what about the damage that hybe caused to nj

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if mhj wins which i believe she's going to

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hope she sues that well nourished man

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pls go down more

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trying to blame mhj from their own failure

half knot
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these types of lawsuits are not going to be concluded in the short term

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she can exercise her put options in november, I doubt any of these lawsuits will have results by then. was the belift labs one even a lawsuit or just a complaint to police?

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these types of affairs are not over until they are over, and they are rarely conclusively over

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lawsuits and counter lawsuits are going to go on until 2026-2027 at this point unless they sit down and settle it all

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of course it means negative things for NJ's activities if she and ador are preoccupied with this nonsense though

upper solstice
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just deleted all songs by source music

spare timber
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I wouldn’t be surprise if mhj lost and she took njs with her though ngl

tired ingot
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here we go

frozen granite
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Ugh not this again 🙄

tribal sand
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What happened???

swift spire
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Season 2 has renewed

tribal sand
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waht does that mean 😭

hushed whale
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dw it will be fine TOKKIUM

tawdry vessel
swift spire
tawdry vessel
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it was her carrying nj and tokkis against the world

upper solstice
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my fav episode was bunnies camp

tawdry vessel
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10/10 episode

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pure cinema

twin cypress
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I doubt that source or belift will win cause all mhj has to do is base her defense on the fact that all of this was supposed to be private until hybe brought it public and she never said anything bad about the groups but only talked about how the situation with her and hybe got bad. Slander is super hard to prove so yeah this might be nothing at all tbh

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Source really has no case to stand on cause she didn’t even attack the ceos or adults of that label like she kinda did with belift by saying that the adults were at fault. All she said is that hybe chose source and le sserafim to debut first over newjeans and that’s where the mhj vs hybe distrust began. Nothing in that press conference slandered source or lsfm

swift spire
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Yeah plus based on her presence and attitude when she went to the police it looks like shes confident and not scared of shit

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Fingers crossed nothings gonna happen Prayge

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swift spire
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Blud was smiling ear to ear after 8 hours of investigation rofl

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cinder verge
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yeah she def ate that shit up

half goblet
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iirc she didnt really say anything bad toward somu right?

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belift definitely 😂

twin cypress
# half goblet belift definitely 😂

The thing is she could always say that during that press conference she was saying things to clear up the media play that hybe was doing when it first broke out to the public. When hybe was doing hella articles saying mhj was claiming that everyone copied her. And also that she made sure to keep illit out of it as the members were innocent so she tried minimizing the hate towards them

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It’s always going to go back to the fact that memo was a private message between businesses to clear up concerns ador had that was blown out of proportion and taken public so then she had to address it in public

arctic sky
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Pretty sure this was Hybe doing

half goblet
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or its just them attracting more attention to their song

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both songs sound nothing the same dont bother listen

arctic sky
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I highly doubt that this band had anything to attract attention esp this is an old jazz band lol

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I knew one or two songs from them

dry atlas
arctic sky
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but yea the song they were referring to wasnt the same

swift spire
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Maybe they just want some fame lol

twin cypress
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Clout chasing is a sick addiction 😂

dry atlas
gaunt flame
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they would never beat the allegations

valid sierra
twin cypress
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Idk why they resurfaced again though

dry atlas
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coz it was reported

swift spire
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Its all hybes doing

waxen musk
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Wow that Shakatak song I listened to when people were talking about it two months ago. I go on the comments on that song's YouTube video and sadly people seem to agree and say it sounds the same. I know where the similarities are but the songs are so different. I also vaguely remember that so many other songs have the same similarities. I wish I could find that evidence presented a couple of months ago.

There's also Hanni dating rumours conveniently coming out around this time too, but with literally zero evidence so far. Whatever Hanni does is fine by me but again no evidence and the timing, it's just distraction from Hybe to take people's eyes away from their actual issues.

Hybe's obviousness in how they work is upsetting because it feels like they pretty much get away with it. I have yet to see Korean public's response to today's actions but as expected a lot of international non-Tokkies are behaving is exactly the same way again in a way that just gives me dread.

dry atlas
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @newjiram <t:1721286154:d>

surprise surprise… HYBE is using NewJeans as their shield to cover up their new boy group TWS’ plagiarism allegations that went viral yesterday. HYBE immediatly had articles taken down of their controversy and THE VERY NEXT DAY they released an exclusive press release and then sent it over to EVERY news outlet in South Korea over false allegations that ADOR has been waiting to hear back from for over a month…

Every time an artist from HYBE has a scandal, they use NewJeans as their scapegoat to tarnish their image even more… I can’t name a more disgusting label.

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dry atlas
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haha im growing numb to all this

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NEWJEANS NEVER DIE

waxen musk
waxen musk
# dry atlas haha im growing numb to all this

It was so obvious how the girls were feeling during the worst time a month or two ago and I hope as horrible as it sounds that they also are numb to this new stuff too. We know they can get through it either way and they're crazy for doing this but they seem to try to support Tokkis more than they need to when they should be the ones getting the support from us. tokkisob

white arch
gaunt flame
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NEWJEANS NEVER DIE

quick wadi
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Where is @acoustic valve

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I don’t want to read any yapping but theirs

acoustic valve
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MHJ will fight against the belift and somu lawsuits with everything, there's like 100B on the line and I think the cases are in her favor

cyan rivet
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Plz mhj win

acoustic valve
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if there wasn't 100b on the line she might've been willing to settle just to reduce collateral damage and risk, but I can't see that being an option for her. But by the same token, Hybe will keep hounding like dogs at her with everything

somber pumice
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Taroboba I missed you

gaunt flame
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Taroboba I missed you

acoustic valve
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We're just kinda back to where things were at the beginning, although prospects do look much better for Ador than it did at the start

gaunt flame
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You gave me hope during the dark time few months ago

cyan rivet
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Will mhj win?

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She must be

acoustic valve
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Kakao is about to sell its SM shares; hopefully that ignites another contentious period within Hybe and they won't bother spending so much effort on destroying Ador anymore...

sleek crest
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gosh i only fear about the girls

acoustic valve
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It's safe to say the girls won't be treated well by Hybe, and that they definitely won't renew their contract in 2029. So it's just a matter of delaying Hybe until they're out

dry atlas
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and mhj contract is until what 2026?

acoustic valve
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yeah november 2026

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but like, if mhj does leave in 2026; hybe will lose most of its monetary interest in destroying NJ, they doing it because the more NJ earns, the more they have to pay mhj when she leaves.

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that being said, they might still do it out of spite. They certainly haven't been shy in acting petty and vindictive in all of this, but their motivation is drastically lowered if MHJ does leave in 2026 in an official manner

tawdry vessel
tawdry vessel
somber pumice
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I miss you

acoustic valve
cyan rivet
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Let taroboba cook

rose turret
acoustic valve
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Just gotta pray Hybe keeps failing in the courts, they going to keep trying to sabotage NJ and nothing can really be done about that. But as long as hybe keeps losing like they have been I think everything will be fine tokkipray

ripe mango
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oh

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this thread is revived

ocean arch
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When mhj leaves hybe will put nj into hiatus till their end of contracts

ripe mango
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season 2?

ripe mango
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its funny how all this news came out right after tws was accused of plagiarism of bigbang's subunit

acoustic valve
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it's clearly mediaplay by Hybe and they leaked it now on purpose, but it's really to be expected Hybe will do everything they can get away with to sabotage ador/nj atp

neon kelp
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oh wow this is still going on

mild mist
waxen musk
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There could be reason to escape (from Hybe) but it will 100% affect everything. Right now they'd be planning for NJ1 (November at the very earliest) which sets them up for world tour. Everything going on right now really could push everything back. It already sounded like it kinda did when "season one" was going on.

swift spire
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I’m kinda tired of hybe constantly sabotaging newjeans and ador every now and then now, idk what the girls would have to go thru for the next last years of the contract sigh

bronze jetty
hoary frost
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cant believe they're bringing this issue back up... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZhyvyxTK4s

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커여운토끼쟝
뉴진스 버블검 샘플링 & 표절 완벽 비교

여러분의 궁금증을 해소할 차례입니다! 최신 영상에서는 뉴진스 버블검이라는 혁신적인 도구를 살펴보고, 표절 탐지 기능의 정확성을 빛내는 샘플링 방법을 알아봅니다.

표절은 학문의 적이며, 어떤 형태로든 방치되어서는 안됩니다. 이 영상에서는 뉴진스 버블검의 뛰어난 성능을 소개하며, 샘플링과 표절 감지의 연결고리를 살펴봅니다. 효과적인 샘플링이 표절을 찾아내는 정확성에 어떤 영향을 미치는지, 그 비밀을 공개합니다

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Wow good job finding that again. Literally two months like I thought.

short laurel
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ooh this is open

neon kelp
neon kelp
twin cypress
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Kinda slimey how they waited for their music release to be almost over for them to start up the attacks again

elfin pewter
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even though the price they need to give is too high, it can still be seen as a normal thing in music industry other time. but in this kind of situation, …..

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they even say immediate stop, and more serious things related to profits and ownership , so will hit abit harshly imo

acoustic valve
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this is comforting lol

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they made a new video too, it even comes with some eng subs... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzz2X8BGQsE&ab_channel=커여운토끼쟝

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커여운토끼쟝
뉴진스 버블검 표절 확정된 듯 하네요...

먼저, 뉴진스의 버블검 표절과 관련하여 잘못된 정보를 올려드린 점에 대해 진심으로 사과드립니다. 샤카탁 분들께도 사과 드리니 꼭 이 영상을 봐주시고 널리 알려주세요! 저의 게시물로 인해 혼란을 일으키고 불편을 끼친 모든 분들께 깊은 사과의 말씀을 드립니다.

정보의 정확성과 신뢰성은 무엇보다 중요하다고 생각하며, 이번 실수로 인해 여러분의 신뢰를 저버리게 되어 매우 송구스럽습니다. 앞으로는 정보의 출처와 내용을 더욱 철저히 검토하고 확인하는 과정을 거쳐, 이런 일이 재발하지 않도록 최선을 다하겠습니다.

다시 한 번, 이번 일로 인해 불편을 겪으신 모든 분들께 사과드리며, 앞으로는 더욱 신중한 자세로 임하겠습니...

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Wait... there's literally nothing new regarding the Bubble Gum plagarism stuff since June? HanniDevious WHAT. I seriously thought something new was happening. It's just being resurfaced and that's all? No updates since June? I'm confused.

errant osprey
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Wow this corp fight has a season 2

acoustic valve
echo scaffold
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and that is the news

mild mist
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not even

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someone just said that they sound similar and ador said "that's a nice argument senator, why don't you back that up with a source?"

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and that was a month ago and nothing has happened since

swift spire
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Wait so the plagiarism thing as well as the other band suing ador happened a month ago??? And its only surfaced now?

upbeat stream
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They never sued, only issued a complaint to ador

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which was responded to

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But yes this happened a month ago

echo scaffold
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oh what i read was the band hired local law firm

hushed whale
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basically just a cease and desist letter

swift spire
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So it must be hybe bringing this up now as mediaplay to cover up their other groups’ bs

upbeat stream
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Yeah, that's obvious

short laurel
echo scaffold
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the news are not getting any spotlight

marble cape
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whats with the hanni dating rumors that shit was random too

tawdry vessel
sleek crest
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what.

upper solstice
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hybe a shit

vapid bronze
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Why can't hybe just be friends tokkisob

twin cypress
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Cause they are salty they can’t control a group they were going to throw to the side

spare timber
lucid yarrow
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we can't blame it all on hybe hater/dumb bs will be around forever but this copyright thing is totally hybe

half goblet
short laurel
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and the fact that source of all the nj drama hybe pushing is the same DC group(korean 4chan).

echo scaffold
sterile umbra
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Does the drama never end?

echo scaffold
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various people talks about different topics in each sub communities

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the biggest and probably only korean fanbase of newjeans is also one of subs of dcinside

dry atlas
echo scaffold
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yeah

dry atlas
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apparently there's a korean njcord too

echo scaffold
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what is njcord???

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oh discord??

dry atlas
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yes newjeans discord

echo scaffold
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idk i havent seen one

short laurel
placid rose
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4chan is in another planet

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mhj disstrack for hybe incoming

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meet the hybe

short laurel
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Point is both are garbage places.

orchid field
echo scaffold
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its a place for people interested in each topics

short laurel
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both 4chan and reddit too. and point is the source of nj hate that media is pushing all originate from same corner of DC. the end.

dry atlas
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ok the end

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stop the topic

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it's irrelevant

bronze jetty
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so many tokkis are leaving twitter cuz of this mess 😭

neon kelp
half goblet
elfin pewter
neon kelp
steep torrent
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @nwjns1st <t:1721405371:d>

YOU plagiarized this rhythm first, @SHAKATAK_UK. don’t you feel ashamed? the sequence is not the same, the notes are not the same, not even the chords are the same.
you’re claiming a rhythm that you didn’t even invent, which makes me wonder; who paid you to start a losing game?

dry atlas
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saw a tweet that today haerin was attacked? what's that about

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yesterday was the hanni dating rumor

twin cypress
dry atlas
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oh lol

short laurel
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making fun of 12 year old... do these rats think kids are born dancer singers minjifacepalm

half goblet
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what did she say

arctic sky
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ur sucks

half knot
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it did make me laugh though ngl

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and hey minji's around the same age as anton HanniDevious

arctic sky
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Minji oppa

half knot
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This whole thing is going to get worse and worse because HYBE has been trying to figure out how to ruin MHJ and NJ since their initial attack failed so spectacularly

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so just be ready I guess as fans

acoustic valve
swift spire
twin cypress
half knot
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after the initial unhinged presscon, ador and MHJ really need to be careful what they officially and unofficially say

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what's that phrase, "never interrupt your enemy while they make a mistake" or something like that

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spark trout
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the shakatak situation is such a mess. the group is 40 years old threatening systematic legal action against a 2 year old debuted group for possibly recycling a 40 year old song. like why not go after other groups who have used it? and then all the replies on X supporting shakatak are all fearnots/HYBE stans

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i just needed to vent. it is so frustrating to wake up to news like this that's clearly ridiculous

waxen musk
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I seriously don't see anything happening with it. Just a waste of time. Noise used for distraction. Weeks will pass and we'll forget this even happened.

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I'm more worried about the lawsuits MHJ has filed against her. Any excuse for Hybe to get rid of her.

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Too much good news all the time to focus on.

red thorn
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Plagiarism lawsuit or dispute is common in industry, it happens behind the scenes, the company most likely want to avoid potent court proceeding (could hurt both sides too for the long run) if the evidence provided is 'credible enough' even tho say the truth they aren't plagiarize, it's gonna be hard to win, so they rather settle it privately
It's unfortunate, that this somehow leaked out of nowhere to public before it could settled/resolved privately within sides
Now public scrutinize this case, the damage already done

elfin pewter
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Just my humble opinion - even though we cannot know their real intention, we should respect them(SHAKATAK) as artists. I feel like it's not about who is supporting them or who is behind it; it's more about the music itself. The word plagiarism can be interpreted broadly. But as an untrained fan with no music knowledge, I just feel that those two songs sound similar in certain parts

waxen musk
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People are bringing up so much evidence (as they did two months ago when I first saw it) of other songs and older songs which also have the exact same similarities. So I think we don't need to worry lol.

arctic sky
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is this the same person as strawberry jam lol

gaunt flame
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is that you taroboba

quick wadi
orchid field
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will never get to me how the flying fuck these antis keep getting so many upvotes its insane

waxen musk
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The sum of stans of other groups are a greater number than stans of a single group. HanniShrug

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It's upsetting. I really makes it seem like things are one way when you read things exclusively on Twitter than then you go outside and speak to people and realise things are not that way at all. HanniDevious

lucid yarrow
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just dont read comment/block i only look at pics and that it and less engage with these ppl the better they can circle jerk all they want can't make it true

swift spire
harsh doveBOT
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x_ @nwjns1st <t:1721405371:d>

YOU plagiarized this rhythm first, @SHAKATAK_UK. don’t you feel ashamed? the sequence is not the same, the notes are not the same, not even the chords are the same.
you’re claiming a rhythm that you didn’t even invent, which makes me wonder; who paid you to start a losing game?

tawdry vessel
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They're minority. People who have nothing better to do with their lives but to spread hate. Most people dont care. Dont stress too much about it. We will all have the last laugh

short laurel
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I hope these people get punished for all the harm they did to others.

bronze jetty
tribal sand
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Hey yalll…what’s happening??

opaque torrent
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hybe promoting newjeans their own way 🤷🏻‍♀️

sleek crest
twin cypress
red thorn
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Gotta wait and see how Ador/Bubblegum legal team further refute/settle shakatak's next analysis report

short laurel
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They haven't sent anything in month

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Just noise marketing. Case doesnt have any stand. Just listening to 2 songs will show u.

red thorn
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Latest update, yesterday? They said they hired musicologist now for evidence report
Probably after peer pressured

short laurel
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Latest update yesterday was just Twitter post to address "korean fans" screaming. Those fans were neither korean nor fans xD

red thorn
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Again, gotta wait and see whether it's bluff/noise marketing or serious

elfin pewter
elfin pewter
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Of course, I wish this would end very quickly and quietly. But as we all know, our wishes have not been fulfilled since April 😶

short laurel
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while there have been cases like that. look up both songs and give them a listen. not that mash up video but actual songs. even untrained ears can tell they are different. while there's chance for lose cuz courts not have actual music experts but that losing chance is extremely low.

dry atlas
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the only familiar part was the intro

hoary frost
# elfin pewter Just my humble opinion - even though we cannot know their real intention, we sho...

the example you probably saw was edited in a way to make them sound similar.
just watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZhyvyxTK4s

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커여운토끼쟝
뉴진스 버블검 샘플링 & 표절 완벽 비교

여러분의 궁금증을 해소할 차례입니다! 최신 영상에서는 뉴진스 버블검이라는 혁신적인 도구를 살펴보고, 표절 탐지 기능의 정확성을 빛내는 샘플링 방법을 알아봅니다.

표절은 학문의 적이며, 어떤 형태로든 방치되어서는 안됩니다. 이 영상에서는 뉴진스 버블검의 뛰어난 성능을 소개하며, 샘플링과 표절 감지의 연결고리를 살펴봅니다. 효과적인 샘플링이 표절을 찾아내는 정확성에 어떤 영향을 미치는지, 그 비밀을 공개합니다

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https://youtu.be/NcCKlsTgjeM?si=-pp9-p02GJYY4JLf

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twin cypress
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You would think shakatak, who are from England, would know better when it comes to chord progression lawsuits seeing how Ed Sheeran, one of the biggest artists from England, set precedent that you can’t copyright chord progressions especially if that chord is super common

short laurel
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that tokkies found so many videos using same chord progression be4 shakatak did it.

twin cypress
short laurel
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like i said. it's just noise. nothing will come out of it. i rather focus on how hybe used NJ to cover up tws big bang case

twin cypress
waxen musk
short laurel
opaque torrent
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCOKXTBr3No

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커여운토끼쟝
[단독] 샤카탁 표절 협박으로 공갈치다 발각됨 / Easier said than done 완벽 분석

최근 샤카탁이 뉴진스 측에 악곡 사용 중단과 손해배상을 요구하는 내용증명을 보냈다는 소식이 화제가 되고 있습니다. 하지만 이번 사건에서 샤카탁의 주장이 허위라는 증거들이 조금씩 드러나고 있는데요

더불어, 이 모든 사건이 특정 커뮤니티와의 공모로 이루어졌다는 의혹도 제기되고 있는데
진실은 무엇일까요?

이번 영상에서는 샤카탁의 주장과 그 진실, 표절 여부에 대해 알아보겠습니다.
본 영상의 저작권은 각 저작권자에게 있으며
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debunking shakatak's lies

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"animal-level proof of content" 😭

hoary frost
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unpopular take but ador's response and the way they handled situation is not being welcomed by public (or forums that represents public in some way, let's say). this is negatively impacting newjeans and of course, min heejin as well. as people are doubling it down, comparing to her case with hybe which ultimately portrays her as no different from them.

naturally this news did not leak out of nowhere. it is inside job, however, it is handled poorly by ador. they should have been proactive in communicating with that band and cleaning up the issue before it would come to this. ador's "submit public report first" is not perceived well. it does not matter what that band's intentions are, or even if they did not reach out for a month. it is considered that the band has no obligation to submit report rather it should be communicated mutually before it comes to lawsuit and becomes copyright infringement matter. ador should have also prepared report that shows what sources were used while producing BBG, etc. mediation happens first and then lawsuit if both sides do not find common language.

I know this seems like a nonsense and It is. there are shit ton of songs that use same sample. however, music plagiarism issue is financial matter. it is worth for that band to try it out. this is normal occurrence in western industry and public will not crucify you for it, but korean society is different. kpop labels are used to stealing and not crediting. lawsuits are very rare and are almost always privately settled like svt - chainsmokers case, etc. maybe some even just pay and make others sign NDA to avoid bad press or it just never sees the light. I've seen a lot of youtube channels & tiktok channels that compile kpop songs that sampled other songs (whether it is legally done or not).

tldr im talking too much. ador should take it seriously no matter how unserious it seems. nj gets awful amount of hate from hybe fandoms in kr. public is fickle and cant rely on them esp now.

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ps im navi and half back from my rest depending on my mood swings 💔

twin cypress
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Like in Twitter they’ll tell you newjeans brand reputation is in the gutter but irl you see them getting pubg and Fortnite collabs in addition to all their designer content

hoary frost
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it is not small when everything that happens to nj now is magnified million times more and naturally their haters also contributing to it. it could become even bigger if not handled right. this is kpop, everything blows up out of control. but for me it is not matter of how big or small it is.

mhj raised the matter of plagiarism first with other group and later hinted song plagiarism issue about another group, but now newjeans is targeted with the same accusation means both her and nj will be targeted twice as much. it is not good look when this issue pops up continuously and it will continue to pop up as long as it is dragged out. that's why it should have been handled appropriately regardless of how small or big it is.

ofc it can die down like mamamoo starry night had plagiarism accusation going on when it came out, but it died down bc they were never sued or something. nj's case is different.

their success has not been impacted bc they have public's favor and public is fickle and it is not worth risking it when u already have enemies out there.

arctic sky
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Seriously ppl need to get off from the internet ,ur being brain washed into thinking we are so fucked in the deep shit real fraud being exposed kinda thing lol. Haters gonna hate there's nothing you could do to prevent that to happen no matter how good ur are and back to the plagiarism accusations if they really had anything substantial just bring forward with prove.

hoary frost
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whatever man. i gave my two cents and hope it is sorted out soon

red thorn
# hoary frost unpopular take but ador's response and the way they handled situation is not bei...

I think Adore knows the procedure it was professional response, It's accuser obligation to submit credible report for evidence. From then Adore could defend/refute with their own proof, if it's more credible then the accuser side wouldn't press the matter further. It's different when accuser's evidence is credible enough, it's gonna be long battle if it's going to court case, that's where settlement/mutual agreement/communication comes to play. And that could've been resolved privately if not because the info leaked to public.

dry atlas
somber pumice
tawdry vessel
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i deleted my twitter acc tho

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Tokkis need to stay off of twitter. Girls will be on a break preparing for nj1 album, why not take yours too. It's for your own good

dry atlas
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the qoo the biggest mhj dick rider during the drama

hoary frost
# dry atlas navier?.

im alive ikr. i surprisingly spent peaceful comeback period and tried to not get consumed by negativity tho mhj win helped along the way heh tokkisob tokkilove

hoary frost
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but the comments were not overwhelmingly against ador. it could be hybe has wisen up and decided to register some accounts on theqoo and not stay exclusively on the incel sites lol

hoary frost
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yeah, it is more discussion or arguing. i have no doubt the fandoms (you know who) are also contributing to it.

opaque torrent
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i think it's already died down anyway with the fortnite news leaking and the inkigayo performance last night

hoary frost
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it popped up again today due to music critics statement

waxen musk
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Didn't see that.

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waxen musk
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But did feel like things were moving on. But you say otherwise.

hoary frost
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no, havent seen it trending.

waxen musk
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I still think this will all be forgotten about in a week or two (publicly).

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I said earlier I'm more worried about MHJ and her defamation lawsuits.

opaque torrent
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i think its just an echochamber for now. ador might drop a huge statement out of nowhere like they did with cookie haha but i honestly don't think its a big deal outside of the echochamber

hoary frost
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yeah, i think it will be sorted out with good statement or if there is result with that band if their musicologist is real and they wont ghost again

opaque torrent
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at least rabbitjang's video is up 22k views and there are only korean comments

hoary frost
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hope it gains attention. naturally hybe is milking this to discredit her case with hybe as well. thats why it is extra noisy

dry atlas
hoary frost
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oh that second tweet rabbitjang replied directly to them

hoary frost
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this dude posted on FB that it was strange that band had to submit report and accused should defend itself lol. he made a new saying he got dms etc and made longer statement saying same shit

opaque torrent
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based on a skim of the comments, it seems like k-armys/the hive has finally found some coattails they can ride

hoary frost
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the gist is that it is not official complaint or lawsuit, hence, band has no obligation to submit report and ador should be the one clarifying lol

opaque torrent
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how do you prove a negative? lmao what a loser

hoary frost
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right. it is not court but that band sent obscure points to ador, ador told them to submit better report, how is this wrong?

opaque torrent
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it was a cease or desist, asking ador to halt bubblegum release and pay them damages.. you need more than a formal complaint to demand someone to follow suit lol

hoary frost
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better report i assume means that they exchange music sheets, etc and compare it based on the points that band made. ador should help them to do that?

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it is basic communication which was conveniently leaked to media

red thorn
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True

opaque torrent
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i think everyone was praising adors response until this critic stirred the pot and gave hybe stans some ammunition

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the engagement on the fb post and the tweet is low

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22k views on the debunk video vs a tweet that has 27 likes and a fb post that has 50+ likes... and 200 comments on this post.

hoary frost
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i saw knetz bringing up how sweet and attention too but have not read that thread. they are trying too hard

waxen musk
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I bet if they try harder they could find songs that sound like all their songs. Give them time lol.

opaque torrent
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sigh the police are taking their sweet ass time

hoary frost
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i wont be surprised lol nj haters are so active. even i am not that active HanniLul

opaque torrent
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that happens when you hit it big ^_^ just ignore them and let it be a one-sided affair

hoary frost
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bruh. promo period was so nice. i thought we got some break but yellow demon showed up as soon as it was over. tokkisob

waxen musk
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Thing don't feel as dire right now but there's the lingering feeling Hybe will pull some shit that actually makes me worry like before.

hoary frost
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the fact that it is so easily debunked means if it gets big enough for a response, that means the ownage will be even more impactful.

hoary frost
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lets see what their musicologist finds HanniLul

waxen musk
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arctic sky
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the noisier hybe is, the more progress ador/newjeans are making behind the scenes (fortnite, nj1, world tour)

hoary frost
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if you listen to the entirety of easier said than done, which is five lines repeating, its even more ?????? lol you really are claiming plagiarism over some common chord progressions

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any musicologist would l augh this off

waxen musk
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Those many other examples of similar sounding songs, older and newer just put me at ease really.

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And the Ed Sheeran video.

hoary frost
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i was reading guardian article regarding this and it seems they take whole body of work into consideration when judging copyright infringement. not just melody or chords. idk how it is in korea tho

opaque torrent
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the blurred lines lawsuit set a terrible precedence but ed sheeran lawsuit helped leveled that awfulness a bit

waxen musk
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I really think we're all focusing on this when there are other things to worry about.

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while the melody and chords have been done prior to shakatak

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logically theres just no way unless the judge is corrupt, if it gets that far lol

hoary frost
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its not about corruption but how korean laws work. theyre pretty strict with copyright infringement stuff iirc, but i have no doubt nothing will come out of this nonsense. only thing thats annoying is that possibility that it might get dragged out and generate more negative press

hoary frost
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hybe is so dirty if its not this its something else. they've been trying to paint newjeans as a treacherous group for promoting in japan and when that wasn't hitting, they had an article about how newjeans wasn't as successful as xyz hybe groups in japan

waxen musk
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You're seeing things not many people are seeing.

hoary frost
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i saw it too

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haerincackle naver articles are fun

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exactly... i am not a reflection of the general public dont worry

hoary frost
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they stirred up a lot of controversy. pubg, korea tourism giveaway gift, etc. i swear no one works harder than yellow company stans haerincackle

opaque torrent
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good ole fashion envy

hoary frost
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i have a question. lets say mhj loses one of the lawsuits that was filed by bang's puppets. what happens?

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one of or both haerincackle

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ig she will be kicked smoothly in that case, but can she exercise put options

dry atlas
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she can appeal

hoary frost
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lets say she lost appeal. got kicked. im more interested what happens to her put options or whether hybe still has to put nj in basement to drop ador's value

opaque torrent
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i think then newjeans can take action

hoary frost
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doubt nj can help, but if they are put in basement maybe they can sue for negligance hanniHUH

waxen musk
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I feel like we're delving into speculating about potential bad futures like we did when the drama first started months ago. HanniDevious

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Honestly I selfishly want this thread closed because I can't help myself but want to keep up to date.

hoary frost
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i just wonder if they still need 1.5 years hiatus if mhj is kicked. there is a chance she is kicked yknow

hoary frost
dry atlas
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yeah it helps to not keep up w it

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reopening this thread was just so there's a place to vent

waxen musk
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I feel like they can get through anything after last few months. Just having to potential go through it again is...

dry atlas
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but dont get caught up w it like before guys

waxen musk
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Nah I'm not anywhere near like that lol. Just can't help myself with this because the thread lights up white and I have to see what you say. I somehow managed to not see a lot of stuff you discussed above already so that's good.

hoary frost
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yeah, I saw nj reddit also made megathread and I jumped like what happened jfjdjdjdjd

bronze jetty
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idk of any of you guys watch stephanie soo, but lots of people seem to request her to make a video about this whole thing and as much as i enjoy watching her videos, idk if she should cover this one

waxen musk
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Yeah it's hard to find the "correct" information through research

hoary frost
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agreed

waxen musk
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Like imagine if you didn't go through all this drama live as it happened. It's basically impossible to not see how especially the English-speaking side of the internet thinks how things happened. It's gone down in history one way over here whereas it happened completely differently in Korea. It's really something I've learned a lot from.

hoary frost
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lost in translation and culture

waxen musk
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I just hate how it's all being "recorded" in the way I mentioned. Anybody looking back years from now will see it how I described above.

red thorn
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All the info too still she said he said situation

waxen musk
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I've always been worried about the reputation of NewJeans since I got into them over a year ago and it made me not want to share my love of them. But when I went to Bunnies Camp those worries obviously went away because everyone there has been through it together and are there for the same reasons as I. Something I never needed to worry about.

hoary frost
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ohh u went to bunnies camp. that's awesome. yeah, this thing made fandom stronger tbh

waxen musk
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Outside of that though I'm still not public at all about my NewJeans interest. I feel like people who don't know them could do a little Google about them and see stuff I wish for them not to see.

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Glad for this Discord tho

hoary frost
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yeah, makes sense. people can be so prejudiced towards kpop groups lol. thats why these kind of online communities are nice to have.

waxen musk
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I feel like it extends to the NewJeans fandom in a really bad way though. My observation of the fandom on places like Reddit (which I barely go on tbh) is that people know they'll be downvoted for any positive comments or "corrections" about misinformation and that gradually makes people not want to even bother commenting at all. NewJeans gets quite low engagement on Reddit, I think, for was huge they are (tell me if I'm wrong).
On Twitter I hear about fans leaving and no longer commenting. Again that makes fewer and fewer positive posts appear just in general. That and I see just people saying things are because of "that fandom" or whatever all the time: there's just so much fighting. I feel like people see those types of users and just see it as fighting that Tokkis are just forever involved in.
I base this on what I see non-Reddit/Twitter users say about this fandom. I think we're getting a really bad rep and there's not enough people there to just show how positive things can be to people outside of this fandom. (There's plenty of positive places for people already in the fandom, but I'm just talking about people who just casually come across NewJeans stuff and don't go looking for it.)

hoary frost
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you mean r/kpop?

waxen musk
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More than that. Just kpop reddit everywhere (obviously not /r/NewJeans)

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But yeah mainly, I guess /r/kpop newJeans feels not that welcome

bronze jetty
# hoary frost you mean r/kpop?

r/kpop_uncensored has been not a safe spot for newjeans either. people were getting 100+ upvotes talking about minji 'vandalising' the hybe building with aespa stickers that karina gave her 😭

waxen musk
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At least that shit makes me laugh lol

bronze jetty
hoary frost
bronze jetty
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like it's a sticker... not graffiti

waxen musk
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THE DISRISPECT

dry atlas
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comments stating they enjoyed nj stage last night are being downvoted

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so yea

waxen musk
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i haven't even seen any comments about nj during gayo daejeon in general when i had a super brief look

hoary frost
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its not surprising. most int communities are dominated by military wives

torn edge
# waxen musk I feel like it extends to the NewJeans fandom in a really bad way though. My obs...

i agree with you..right now if you came across any posts at X or Reddit..or maybe other KPOP discord channel, somehow they see us tokkis are the bad guys for making other GG who are mentioned or dragged to these mess look bad or make it worst like toxic comments ect. But as I see more and more of each hate post and kinda wasted my time checking the accounts one by one...they're not really pure bunnies, more like buzzers of the media kinda thing

waxen musk
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I think a lot of those people feel the need to defend NewJeans all the time. Outsiders don't see it as anything but arguing.

hoary frost
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yeah lmfaoo i saw 🪖 blaming their faves controversy on us like fkkdkd

waxen musk
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Anyway I feel this fandom is gonna struggle to really explode into something big like people would love it to until hopefully they get more global recognistion and there's almost like a "reset" with the influx new fans (after NJ1 plssss)

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I just care about this Discord being a super comfy place, something that feels a bit artificially nice sometimes but this along with just the NewJeans girls themselves are enough to constantly make me happy. I should stop worrying lol.

hoary frost
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non hybe fandoms are still fine with us tho. reddit kpop subs are just a bit [retracted]

torn edge
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i feel like, we just have to be patient and just let time and their achievements tell em otherwise. we need to be wiser as a fandom

hoary frost
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but reddit always hated nj. nj always got awful threads since debut and they tried so hard to force controversies on nj

waxen musk
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I feel like they'll be forever the casual gp fav and never a group that has lots and lots of actual fans

vapid bronze
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Is it crazy for me saying this but, all this hybe and Mhj stuff is some crazy lore for NewJeans. Will this attract some fans in the future? haerincackle

waxen musk
hoary frost
torn edge
hoary frost
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youre right ash. nj does not need kpop stans. they need to gain brand new fans. nj has a lot of actual fans who came to know kpop after discovering nj

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they need another big era for that tho

waxen musk
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None of this matters. They're already popular enough. They're gonna get more popular when they promote in the West which they haven't AT ALL this year so far. Pretty simple really.

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Unless Hybe sabotages, things can only go up.

torn edge
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we already had fandom purge since the MHJ case right?

hoary frost
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yes, thank god for that

torn edge
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remember the NewJeans Global account?

waxen musk
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the one that got hacked or whatever?

bronze jetty
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the 'big' tokki accounts on twitter can get on my nerves sometimes ngl

torn edge
waxen musk
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real

torn edge
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hoary frost
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i follow loops, central, charts, brands, records, closet, outfits etc. they are all good haerinW

waxen musk
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Sounds like my follow list

bronze jetty
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hoary frost
torn edge
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ever since they mention HYBE media play...i wasn't surprised at all

waxen musk
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Almost all the stuff that makes me sad wrt NJ is stuff outside of their control. Fandom. Hybe. Is that it?

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Everything else makes me so happy. Being reminded constantly with this anniversary and the live stream. Gonna go now stop yapping ok bye

torn edge
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i mean, how do you rise up or destroy an artist nowadays?

vapid bronze
hoary frost
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we are fine as a fandom. we are in very stressful situation and we are coping and defending in natural way. it is easy to blame us when they are not in our shoes

waxen musk
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It's mainly just how "weak" it seems as a fandom. Not blaming the people stirring things up. They're part of it but there's other factors.

torn edge
hoary frost
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it will get better TOKKIUM all of this will be distant memory by this time next year

vapid bronze
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hoary frost
vapid bronze
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"So what was this drama all about?" Shhh don't worry ahyeinstressed

hoary frost
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imagine explaining this to new fans HanniLul

vapid bronze
arctic sky
quick wadi
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who

waxen musk
torn edge
short laurel
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Tldr: it's all hybe's media play n that fandom lies cuz they jealous of nj success.

twin cypress
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This is my first and only k pop group and from what I’ve noticed is that Twitter and k pop culture as a whole is just “who has bigger numbers” and “how can we prop up our fav group by tearing down other groups that we see as a threat”

arctic sky
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Kpop has always been about fandoms and fanwars since the first gen but amplified nowadays by the presence of socials and internet, it getting worse.

short laurel
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Whats amazing is how these people have so much free time to fight on reddit n twitter.

twin cypress
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Half of the time whenever I see some hating online my first question is how old is this person and is it really worth it to engage cause they might just be some dumb kid trolling

short laurel
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I used to think that but i saw people in their 30's n 40's hating on nj. These people include even females who have kids of age around mid 20's

vapid bronze
half knot
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I have to work with a lot of people in that age range, and those without families or strong social lives (irl not online lol) often are like that, quite bitter and chronically online and act like high schoolers even at work towards their colleagues

hoary frost
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Guilty Archive original acc was suspended.

dry atlas
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who

arctic sky
hoary frost
# dry atlas who

it was pretty big acc reporting on this issue. their danworld post had 60m views 😂

short laurel
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An account who calls out hybe's bs. Hybe tried to appeal for criminal case against them but failed. Account suspended after civil case.

short laurel
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omg it really is like black mirror.

hoary frost
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im surprised that hybe stocks are not recovering at all, instead going down

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it goes upward when there is positive news, but not by much and soon goes down. shows that as long as situation is like this, market does not have much expectations

short laurel
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stocks of kpop industry is on down trend for a while. hybe messed around too much during bad time. it was bound to happen.

red thorn
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Their trump card is bts assemble

tribal sand
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What’s the daily update today chat?

snow turtle
acoustic valve
tribal sand
shy schooner
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Nj still on top

twin cypress
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And they think ador banned them from interacting

twin cypress
red thorn
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"Disgusting thing belift said about Newjeans"
Their point about 'Not Newjeans' thing? Wasn't that mistranslated/misunderstood

waxen musk
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You’re assuming the members of ILLIT even agree with what BELIFT has been doing. You can’t assume anything. People are imagining everything based on knowing nothing.

half knot
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we shouldn't pry too deeply into their social interactions with other idols anyway

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some of that is personal lives stuff outside of their public idol capacity

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if they share, great. if not, it is what it is and not really our business.

red thorn
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Yeah we far far outside their circle don't know any better anw

half knot
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what we do know is that NJ girls still roam HYBE building lol

waxen musk
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Even when things were good, Hanni and Yunjin going to see a movie was hinted at by Hanni and not explicitly said. Just one example and I really can’t think of many others.

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I just mean that they don't talk about it and we won't ever know what's going on. We will never know things are good or bad or indifferent between these girls. All we know are how the companies act.

errant osprey
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This is a corp fight in which at the end the corp will take less damage and the others will take a lot more

acoustic valve
bronze jetty
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twin cypress
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Where are the Korean tokkis to explain why that was an out of pocket thing to say

upbeat stream
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Yeah, I remeber k-tokkies being angry with that line too

acoustic valve
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i mean, even chatgpt can explain why, and even provide simple alternatives for how they could've phrased it to not be inappropriate. But this wasn't some impromptu speech or presentation, this video went through many hands and each word was chosen carefully:

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upbeat stream
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If it just meant nostalgia, why would that be?

red thorn
dry atlas
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dry atlas
half knot
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ah the famous Ador essays

dry atlas
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Dispatch story NewJeans debut behind the scenes

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idk im still reading it

half knot
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that video is ... rare.

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are these trainees vids new?

valid sierra
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istg, ADOR really is the dream team

half knot
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shut kelp
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yall noticed the attention vid? the song is sung by someone else

half knot
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Somebody at source gave Dispatch a lot of stuff to publish this article.

shut kelp
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its prob a reference track

half knot
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probably in prep for their lawsuit proceedings

shut kelp
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is the article bad?

dry atlas
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tldr is mhj lied

shut kelp
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lied about what?

dry atlas
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if you dont know its better that way

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spare yourself

waxen musk
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Just read the ADOR response. Couldn't be happier with their response. Also glad to see the girls being allowed another rest period, something I actually thought might not be happening based on things said earlier this year and the assumption of their future plans.

shut kelp
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could someone explain to me in dms?

vagrant marlin
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same lmao

acoustic valve
# dry atlas tldr is mhj lied

I mean, all of the "evidence" is still a he said she said, reliant on interpreting evidence in a biased manner that suits your narrative. It's no more conclusive than the initial dispatch article that claims Ador "stole" billions of won from Source Music

half knot
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yeah it's very incomplete information being presented that just somewhat differs from what MHJ said. There's no objective perspective being presented.

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good videos and photos though lol

waxen musk
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Just starting off with that Dispatch article with that video I'm like "woah" lol. Gonna read now.

half knot
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I don't think we've seen most of this before

waxen musk
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for me, the members themselves know what happened behind the scenes and what factors were at play more than anyone outside ever will. Who they choose to stand behind is enough for me to see as the righteous case. At the end of the day, the only story and interests I'm invested in is the girls' themselves. I couldn't care less if the executives or shareholders at Source Music felt they were treated unfairly

half knot
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is this predebut stuff even approperiate or approved to be released...?

waxen musk
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I assume this negative article coming at the exact same time as ADOR's response is as usual... Hybe mediaplay?

dry atlas
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yeah lol

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the timing

waxen musk
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They're so obvious with their timing of releasing counter articles lol. SO OBVIOUS.

buoyant hamlet
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Did the Dispatch article come out after ADORs statement?

half knot
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almost at the same time

twin cypress
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This looks worse on source than ador for forcing those young girls to dance like that during recruitment

shut kelp
buoyant hamlet
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HYBE has moles in ADOR?

valid sierra
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things are so chatoic in theqoo rn

half knot
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the only good thing out of this is the videos and the photos lol

buoyant hamlet
# shut kelp can u please give me a tldr about the article in dms

Here is the ChatGPT summary:

The article from Dispatch reveals the intricate and contentious journey of the girl group project known as "Team N," now New Jeans, managed by Source Music and directed by Min Hee-jin under HYBE. Key points include:

Project Inception and Delays: Source Music started preparing a new girl group in 2018, intending to debut in Q3 2021. Min Hee-jin joined in 2019 to handle visuals and concepting, but the debut was postponed indefinitely due to internal conflicts and mismanagement.

Internal Conflict: Min Hee-jin was reluctant to join initially, feeling she couldn't take initiative. Despite her pivotal role, her relationship with Source CEO So Seong-jin and HYBE's Bang Si-hyuk was strained, leading to multiple revisions in roles and responsibilities.

Power Struggles: Min Hee-jin demanded more authority over branding, music, and performance. Despite some concessions, her branding plans were not shared timely, causing further delays. Conversations with a shaman in 2021 reveal her internal conflicts and ambitions.

Communication Breakdown: Repeatedly, Source Music sought meetings and updates, but Min Hee-jin delayed responses, complicating the debut process.

Competing Ambitions: While Source prioritized Team N's debut, Min Hee-jin seemed to have alternative plans, contemplating creating her own label and investing in other projects.

Outcome: Ultimately, Team N, rebranded as New Jeans, debuted in September 2021 under Min Hee-jin's lead, but not without legal disputes and claims of mismanagement from Source Music.

The article portrays a tale of ambition, miscommunication, and power struggles behind the formation of New Jeans, highlighting the challenges within K-pop industry management.
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I don't like ChatGPT summaries, I suggest people read it themselves.

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This is really bad. If what dispatch says is true, it might be all over for her

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Agreed with taking the GPT summary with caution and better to read the article

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as soon as i saw this pic , i stopped reading

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She will probably lose the Source case

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lol

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Is that enough grounds to dismiss her? That's the part I'm not certain about

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like 60% of the article is still about shamans, I don't see any court taking any of that seriously.

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MHJ called the money paid to Source "consolation money", Source is calling it "trainee investment/debt paid off", okay that's just different interpretations of the same thing for the transfer of trainees

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Dispatch has no credibility, they only lie or are paid to tell whoever paid them story.

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this isn't even anything bad, it's just source's side of the order of events and their perspective on it vs. the timeline that MHJ has presented in the past few months

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And yeah Dispatch in total has released three articles since the HYBE x MHJ saga began, all positive towards HYBE's side in a very obviously biased way

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They spread strange rumors at the start of this drama as well

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it's a he said she said of what happened whilst nj members were still straining under Source Music, this is just Hybe's side haerinshrug

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we will be seated for press conference #3

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#TeamADOR

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But I've heard that in Korea, truth doesn't even matter for defamation cases

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leaking all this pre-debut footage just to win a petty PR battle between executives is not a good look, I'll say that

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Timing is interesting, right after the anniv. I'm just going to wait for ADORs response to these accusations

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same time ador dropped their thing

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lol

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impeccable timing

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Sinister

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I'm guessing BSH has a paid mole in ADOR

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This channel again? what happened?

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Ok so from what I’m gathering is that someone gave dispatch info behind NJ’s debut & are trying to manipulate info. Got it

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how are the comments on theqoo looking

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dispatch got paid end of the story

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Dispatch has always been in hybe's pocket

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With how much it talks about parents and Source being involved, I'll wait for their response. Obviously again this whole situation as usual is going to be a he said she said. I need to reread the article though I just woke up and didn't really absorb all the info lol.

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There's a reason hybe idols' dating news are never revealed by dispatch

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so source's burden is proving that MHJ's statements caused actual harm to Source Music in a tangible way.

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Damn so there really isn’t any reconciliation after this - it’s really a blood war now .. agh

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ohh i see it

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it's just more of the same shit; hybe slinging mud and hoping something sticks, if this stuff interests you than by all means read into it, but otherwise I suggest people just ignore it and only bother paying attention to actual legal developments

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Needless to say I stand with NewJeans/ADOR

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they really gotta do this right after nj birthday

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they really just decided to try to ruin the anniversary celebrations right after

just as they tried to ruin their comeback plans and debut in japan plans

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NewJeans followers on TikTok just went up btw

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man, i was gone for an hour for a week meeting, why tf has a bomb dropped

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Plus IG account congratulated them for their 2nd anni. & billboard has ADOR’s back

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Soooooo NewJeans is winning 🥇

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Belift has a better chance winning than source does 😹

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theres medical records now?

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Honestly I’ve never defended a group in my life or been a stan this much for an artist, NewJeans has been my first & I cannot be more happier

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lol are Source celebrating NewJean's second anniversary too with these videos. Cool to see. (A joke if it wasn't obvious.)
Anyway yeah, I will have to wait for other side's response but the article is pretty convincing with the receipts.

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I just don’t get what they are trying to prove cause none of this is new. We’ve known that mhj joined source choose her favorite trainees and took them to form her own label and paid them back for the training cost. What are they trying to do here?

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But I think it just makes source music look bad bc they were behind it all

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The evidence in the Dispatch article proves their framing of events is plausible... but by no means definitive

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So if anything we should just attack source music bc what the f0ck

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Like is this okay to be released?? I'm not complaining because predebut material is always nice but still... this kind of thing isn't meant for public consumption usually

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Hanni was probably 16 there and haerin was probably 14. And if that’s a common thing that source has trainees do imagine what they had 12 year old hyein doing

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Yeah it feels weird I couldn’t watch it it felt gross

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These are little girls, there are other dances they should’ve taught them

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Do you guys remember one of hybe's first accusations was revealing artists' private info?

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smh they also leaked medical records

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feels even weirder that somebody at Dispatch had access to this all and decided to cherrypick these ...

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is it they taking a break? I'm so confused with all these informations

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after seeing this, i won't open my TikTok feeds and X

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i saw it, and thought THAT IS NOT THE NEWJEANS I KNOW. very weird

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Now they are doing it themselves

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I wonder if that’s the reason why belift made disgusting comments about NJ - I wonder if they had any info about these dances

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if those clips were leaked with consent to promote the girls or smth... then yeah maybe it wouldn't feel so gross. But knowing they were leaked to support a hit-piece against ador and the girls feels so dirty and awful

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Anyway, I’m going to stop talking about it & just see what happens

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i also wonder who did vocals for the orignal attention song

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wasn’t it just explaining why Dani wasn’t part of the evaluation

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NewJeans 4 ever!!!! 💛💜🩷💚💙

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Ay if they want to keep leaking stuff I say let it continue cause this is just building a stronger and stronger case for ADOR to get out their contract and become independent

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Of course I will tend to not believe Dispatch based on their history of things but like I said they're gonna convince people. Unless MHJ can unconvince those people (people will make up their mind regardless) and provide counter evidence, then I don't what what to expect.

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also it doesnt help that alot of the big newjeans acct on twitter are reposting the videos

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This is already a super breach of trust for the members and hybe cause no predebut videos of them should be releasing without their permission

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If Source was confident that they had enough to win in court, they wouldn't play this and give Dispatch access to very confidential trainee files from 2018-2021

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uninstall X for y'all health