NJZ Updates and Discussion

[tiny peak]

i was actually a little disappointed by how bad it was

[short laurel]

cmon hybe make bigger blunder now. keep digging your own hole. just big enough that nj have valid cause to get contract termination.

[old cypress]

Oof 1.5 year hiatus

[shy schooner]

Might as well hiatus until contract expires

[tiny peak]

at least

[old cypress]

Looks like I woke up to a lot of stuff

[tiny peak]

https://www.osen.co.kr/article/G1112335183

they keep trying so hard, but it's reaching new levels of absurdity

[hoary frost]

is this new

[old cypress]

Lol koreaboo article on ifans reactions and it's all armies

[copper jetty]

Just woke up and I'm waking up knowing that NJ would be on a 1.5 months hiatus?

I was looking forward for a world tour f*cking hybe!

[tiny peak]

i think so, has some more childish responses from HYBE and a paid off reporters opinions

[arctic sky]

I wish thats true if its only 1.5 months

[copper jetty]

No. Of course not. The length is not the point but the hiatus is. They're gonna be fromis_9

[acoustic valve]

burn down the hybe building

[gritty crater]

i heard 2 years

[tiny peak]

there is a world where HYBE feels the need to exert control (i.e. also rejecting any requests from the parents) and yeah, it's "vacation time" ... or they want to make sure BSH groups are firmly in a better position before NJ returns

[lucid yarrow]

its fine nj get nice vacation they still do weekly content and brand stuff but it would suck knowing no music for so long they love performing and meeting fans

[tiny peak]

ADOR has these secret YouTube channels ... so maybe new anoymous music appears

[dry atlas]

the only i have left is the tarot readings

[quick wadi]

im going to a fortune teller tomorrow

[copper jetty]

Koreaboo said to look for grammy awards producer takes 1.6 years. Well not including the prep for song it might take 2 years

[old cypress]

Hybe just alienated the very last tokkis, those who thought mhj was replaceable

Instead we will get Newjeans - Undefeated ft Nile Rodgers

[lucid yarrow]

what if they hire drake he won some grammy right

[old cypress]

Ew drake

[acoustic valve]

thing is no fuckass wants a "grammy producer", we want 250

[acoustic valve]

yes, the side that engages in 90% mediaplay is the one not engaging in public sentiment, burn that building down please

[old cypress]

Is the legitimacy in the room with us?

[tiny peak]

"failed to gain public sentiment, though they sure tried" "alleged legal legitmacy that is supposed to be decided by a court or something?"

[shy schooner]

They def going to focus more on the other gg

[steep torrent]

im sick to my stomach man

doesnt gucci creative director love hanni, cant he pull some string with gucci so they can buy ador out 😭 im just hoping for anything atp😭

[short laurel]

gucci brand is on the verge of falling from luxury status. they are busy with that.

[dry atlas]

fuck any bets what's going to be released tomorrow

[bronze jetty]

ohhh to be chaebol daughter so i could demand my rich family to save newjeans 😭

[short laurel]

if only a chaebol's daughter loved NJ. and not in creepy way

[steep torrent]

we know nothing about haerins family, lets pray they are rich??

[short laurel]

what if haerin is daughter of chaebol ?

hybe would be done for.

[bronze jetty]

tbh minji always gives me ‘rich girl’ energy

[hoary frost]

🤣🤣🤣

[lucid yarrow]

i feel like this is double edge sword since we complaining bang being such a big baby going make nj work to death with 3month cb and crap producer

[short laurel]

bang is a big bady

[shy schooner]

Going to be mainstream

[short laurel]

even army (pre bts rise to west) hate bang

[quick wadi]

Can we rename this thread to Hybe hate train and turn off automod

[short laurel]

Do it tim!

[hoary frost]

if ador terminates contract w nj, can nj proceed w tokyo dome and activities

[grim shell]

This is a reach lol. btw JYP gets by alright, jus saying..

[shy schooner]

Chances are slim

[copper jetty]

Go for it.

[dry atlas]

go for it

i was gonna change name to " F this shit" earlier

[old cypress]

LOL the stockheads are mad

[quick wadi]

🐷

[lucid yarrow]

but we dont really hate hybe we hate that guy and whoever f the leaker is

[acoustic valve]

kr comment sums up Hybe's strategy:
They treat reporters like puppets and only use the official word without saying anything~ Damn, they are looking at the public at the level of the 80s and 90s, you idiots.

[steep torrent]

https://x.com/kpoppredicting/status/1764478598633967719

Sunny's K-Pop Tarot | READ pinned & bio first! (@kpoppredicting) on X

[THREAD] No, NewJeans has not peaked yet, but they surely did something great in their careers (and for their company) from when they debuted up to now (KnoS and Hierophant).

However, I see a “resting period” for NewJeans. Right now, it’s not clear to me what this is about, but

Twitter · Mar 4, 2024, 2:30 AM

comeback greater than ever

[shy schooner]

Tokyo dome going to be emotional now

[dry atlas]

I'm treating it as farewell show

[hoary frost]

Don't wanna doompost but this is hard to see.

[cyan delta]

Right same, I was really looking forward to the full album and 2025 world tour but that ain't happening.

[hoary frost]

it will happen but as NewSkirts

[cyan delta]

2 year hiatus is wild bro

[steep torrent]

https://vxtwitter.com/finewallsvinyls/status/1248392602090483712

[ionic furnace]

Huh who said 2 years hiatus

[steep torrent]

need tokkis to do something like this at bunnies camp

[ionic furnace]

Did I miss something

[acoustic valve]

2 years seems like an appropriate time to legally sort this shit out... I just pray at the end of it the girls will be free of Hybe and its claws and be free to pursue whatever they want with whomever they want

[steep torrent]

I wonder how hard would it be to get this done

[cyan delta]

https://twitter.com/hurtsaz/status/1789929273504989233?t=wpFtaYholHZM1kqVZWz50Q&s=19

HURT SOTY 𓃹 🫧 (@hurtsaz) on X

hybe said they’ve already found replacements for ador’s board members but now they’re apparently planning to give newjeans a long “vacation” of 1 year & 7 months to find a “grammy winning producer” after their tokyo dome fanmeet..

https://t.co/QlynF2H3xQ

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 8:02 AM

[hoary frost]

Fucking heartbroken man. 2 years. Fucking hell.

[cyan delta]

Linked article in the tweet

[hoary frost]

They're cruel. HYBE is cruel.

[dry atlas]

everytime i see this the month gets bigger lmao

[short laurel]

that person is stupid. "greater than ever" since hybe looking for grammy producer for nj after 1.6year then i m sorry but it won't be great than ever but just same western music of whatever is trendy.

[copper jetty]

Hybe only said that producer thing was 1 and a half year.

[cyan delta]

Yea so no album end of this year and no 2025 world tour if the hiatus is that long..

[copper jetty]

Yeah

[ionic furnace]

Yo what the fuck

[gritty crater]

what

[copper jetty]

Plus. That's only finding a producer. They won't have the songs yet and the recordings so longer probs.

[ionic furnace]

Nah bro what the fuck bang pd is fucked for this hiatus thing

[hoary frost]

They wanna get rid of the gas newjeans had, and put ILLIT to the spotlight.

And abandon them all together

That's what I'm seeing right now

HYBE is cruel

[cyan delta]

Poor newjeans, they were only barely 2 years into their career.

[copper jetty]

Wasn't that already obvious since this started?

The mediaplay by hybe then was crazy.

[acoustic valve]

Even if Hybe was sincere about the produdcer (which they aren't), who wants the same fckass Hybe "grammy" producers anyway? Does any fan actually want them to release generic uninspired top40 pandering pop like JK's album?

[copper jetty]

No

[acoustic valve]

like good for him, that's the path he was clearly aiming for, but that ain't NJ and not what I think anybody wants for NJ

[copper jetty]

Def not. We need 250 and Frnk there, and GIGI

[cyan delta]

I don't really like mhj either, but the members should do something like they gotta end their contracts somehow idk

[acoustic valve]

wtf cares whether we like mhj or not, the girls and their families clearly do

[shy schooner]

I can see the choreographers and all team behind ador leaving

[cyan delta]

Which is why I'm saying they should pull out and stay with her

[copper jetty]

Contracts though is a problem

[cyan delta]

Yeah

[lucid yarrow]

ador just nuke them and let them free before 31st not

[acoustic valve]

everything Hybe has done, and will do has gotta violate clauses which would allow them to terminate contract... it's just a matter of if they have the funds to battle Hybe's army of lawyers, even if evidence and circumstance favors them; the law ain't blind and resources and how long those resources last plays a big role...

[cyan delta]

Yeah true

[arctic sky]

IJBOL sick of these roaches

[grim shell]

i knew it bsh wanted to change njs direction all along, don't be surprised if njs comeback with lesserafim tier evil degen mvs

[acoustic valve]

https://tenor.com/view/simone-biles-gymnastics-olympics-in-orbit-bye-gif-13731019

[ionic furnace]

🤦‍♂️

[copper jetty]

Where tf is this reddit thread?

[short laurel]

people really comapred 1.6 year to a rest break. NJ is like the only hybe group (other than fromis) who get proper breaks. but ofc people don't know that as if there's no video or clips of hanni and dani going their home.

what i m saying is that person is fake tokki

[dry atlas]

it's obvious they don't follow nj

[ionic furnace]

Just read that thread and I gotta say we’re not panicking at the fact that newjeans is going on a long hiatus but it’s the fact that there’s a clear ulterior motive to the 1.7 long “vacation” bang pd probably plans on taking the time to promote illit whilst newjeans are on hiatus

I don’t think even think there’s been a 1.7 month hiatus it’s unheard of

[hoary frost]

theyre so delusional

[ionic furnace]

YEA BRO A 1.7 month hiatus for a group that’s already successful is actually unheard of

[short laurel]

there's been hiaus that long or even longer but non of them are planned but due to circumstances. while this one is planned unfairly at that

[acoustic valve]

let's be real, anyone that's not anti-Hybe at this point are not fans and are clearly astroturfing if they claim otherwise at this point.

[dry atlas]

1.5

[uneven magnet]

Some people are just so blatant antis it’s hilarious

[dry atlas]

stop blowing up the numbers

[ionic furnace]

I read on twitter 1.7

[dry atlas]

tomorrow it'll be 3 years

[ionic furnace]

Was it 1.5? oh

[hoary frost]

it was 1 year and 6 months

[short laurel]

it's 1 year 6 months

[dry atlas]

so 1.5 years

heh

[uneven magnet]

HYBE should just let them go at this point

[short laurel]

1 years 6 months to get producer and couple more months to make new album so nearly 2 years to next CB

[quick wadi]

like 542 days.

[hoary frost]

who tf needs their grammy producers genuinely? tjdjjdjdd

[dry atlas]

they're 3rd biggest money maker after bts and svt

[ionic furnace]

man atp only a miracle can save us 🤞🏻

[dry atlas]

hybe is not letting them go

[acoustic valve]

Unironically closer to reality if Hybe gets their way, because the truth is it will be forever and 3 is closer to that than 1.5

[copper jetty]

Which they don't really need if they already have those 2.

[short laurel]

i sure hope there's a clause that breaks the contract and nj gets ot leave without debt

[ionic furnace]

Wait theoretically speaking 1.6 months after the tokyo dome event would mean that we would be seeing them active again in the “kpop industry” in 2026

[copper jetty]

Plus LSF might go on tours this year or next year so source might see profit too

[ionic furnace]

💀

[copper jetty]

And that's a big IF

[ionic furnace]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[copper jetty]

Dang, now i regret not buying scalpers in Bunnies camp

[ionic furnace]

All I know is that when hybe officially announces it or if it even happens that the media will go crazy

[copper jetty]

oh they will

[ionic furnace]

Crazy as in crazy BAD for hybe

[dry atlas]

I'll weep and cheer for you

[ionic furnace]

Fuck

Mel is there a rule on wishing a disease or condition on someone

cause I’m about to drop a bomb

[copper jetty]

Please send videos of bunny camp

[grim shell]

1+ years in hybe dungeon is basically setting up potential grounds for quiet disband

[copper jetty]

I hate hybe so much more now that I'm willing to support other SM JYP and YG idol so that their group won't win.

I'm becoming a bad tokki

[hoary frost]

mood

[ionic furnace]

Fuck allat I have an international brokerage account with 20k$ put into hybe stocks I’m pulling the fuck out

Fuck hybe

[acoustic valve]

hybe going to crash and burn, even BTS can only save them for so long, they literally got nothing else

[sudden frigate]

What is this 18 months thing I'm hearing? I don't like it. Hope it's fake news

[copper jetty]

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/newjeans-ador-hybe-parent-exposes-long-hiatus/

Just read here

[sudden frigate]

They have LSRFM and ILLIT which is why they dare to do this. But they didn't expect people to have NewJeans' back

[sudden frigate]

"Was" so I hope it's in the past 😪

[hoary frost]

Did he say that to NJ's mom before press conference happened? I wonder if meeting took place before press con

[acoustic valve]

Getting scammed by one of the worst people possible 🛴 and paying 1 billion USD for a paper company and watching it all crumble is some real prescient karma

[copper jetty]

It said meeting after the press con

They think they could mend the ador and hybe relationship but hybe brought out things that MHJ did wrong and said that they will give NJ a long vacation.

They also said that they confirmed they sent an email regarding BSH, I'm guessing this was the not greeting the members.

What the f hybe then cause their response was what? "The VP wrote it."

[short laurel]

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/hybe-newjeans-ador-erase/ what ?

[old cypress]

why do you read reddit lol

[short laurel]

they admitted it at the same time didn't admit it.

[copper jetty]

Sorry the last part is not included

[short laurel]

no i mean is. they said yea they got mails from parents. at the same time they said that mhj wrote the mails not parents or something.

[dry atlas]

[old cypress]

lmao

[steep torrent]

a lost cause..

[hoary frost]

IQ on the floor for real

[short laurel]

wasn't that pjw who leaked that medical history?

[dry atlas]

guys post the dumbest comments you can see so we can have some fun in these dark times

[upper solstice]

imagine bootlicking a billionaire this much for free

[copper jetty]

Is this the first time loops posted something regarding this hybe vs MHJ saga??

https://x.com/newjeans_loop/status/1789978292491002154?t=YZerNKda-UfCfZJtqcDgKQ&s=09

NewJeans Loops 🐇 (@newjeans_loop) on X

STOP MISTREATING NEWJEANS
#BUNNIES_SUPPORT_NWJNS

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 11:17 AM

[dry atlas]

yes

but i doubt they start posting articles and translations

just show of support

[copper jetty]

Which I commend. Keeping it clean and keeping it for the girls.

[hoary frost]

lol i bet u theyd freak the fuck out when their group goes on a 1.5 year long hiatus

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/soyamoyas/status/1789958606491627783?t=eTbGY6TiyVHzCRHizmgSHA&s=33

bernice | 🫧🍀catnipz month (@soyamoyas) on X

BANG SHI HYUK

STOP MISTREATING NEWJEANS #BUNNIES_SUPPORT_NWJNS

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 9:59 AM

[short laurel]

flover might be the only one who understand tokkies

[short laurel]

even his replies are contaminated https://twitter.com/FranciscaAduse6/status/1789986667870273816

Francisca Adusei (@FranciscaAduse6) on X

@delulugyal @newjeans_loop Nothing it just bunnies overreacting a sport news report that hybe intend to let newjeans go on vocation after their Tokyo dome tour which is even a lying hybe never said anything just fake article using this opportunity to write anything

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 11:50 AM

[copper jetty]

Thing is hybe never refuted the statement.

[short laurel]

they seeing how much backlash they get be4 changing thier plans and refuting it.

that's why it was released through media

[copper jetty]

I need bunnies to do something special on bunnies camp.

[short laurel]

@rapid niche in tokyo dome u guys do something special

[copper jetty]

Please do something special.

Atp, Ador should stream the camp. Please??? 😢

[hoary frost]

just link rkpop megathread kfkdkdkdkdk

[copper jetty]

Yeah. Link it Mel. Might as well have fun. Let's post the most ridiculous thing and see if they bite.

Fuck it. If it's not NJ, I'm not supporting any Hybe groups.. I'll support and stream their competitors. F hybe.

[hoary frost]

anyone know about these rumors from before?

[copper jetty]

Yeah I think that was danielle??

Or maybe I was confusing things??

I feel like a lot has happened in the past month alone.

[hoary frost]

I think you're right, cus i saw tweets saying why would he ignore danielle specifically

[copper jetty]

Cause I remember when the cult allegations dropped about fans bringing a danielle poca as a protection, something like that.

[snow turtle]

https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2024/05/13/b3e08fafbe6e8e2a.mp4

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/sam_m030/status/1789860082831831456

공삼 (@sam_m030) on X

아니 방시혁 이걸 무시했다고? 이새끼 진짜 악마 맞는듯

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 3:27 AM

[tawdry vessel]

after tokyo dome, i will time travel and do the world a favor by making sure bang pd wont be born

[steep torrent]

results of the injunction will be later today right?

[dry atlas]

there's no hearing yet

that'll be on Friday

[acoustic valve]

oh god, hybe even paid off popular youtube reporting channels, even they're shilling the "Hybe didn't do media play, MHJ did it instead" narrative. That company is evil as fuck. Genuinely never wished harm on an individual the way I do for BSH right now

[tawdry vessel]

on 17th iirc

[hoary frost]

this is my mood when i see newjeans comeback promo vs ador hybe news

[dry atlas]

just listen to right now

people so dirstracted with this that no one is uploading the clean extended ver of right now

[hoary frost]

right. actually no one can fully focus on cb.

[dry atlas]

i actually think we might get our fastest #1 yet

[hoary frost]

fjdjksksjdks dont jinx it lets hope public tunes in. i dont have much hope internationally yknow why

[dry atlas]

also

i am losing hope on petra

[hoary frost]

i already did

[dry atlas]

do supernatural concept pics look petra-ish

[hoary frost]

it seems like she came for gentle monster campaign and just met up w nayeon.

[hoary frost]

no lol

[dry atlas]

oh well

[hoary frost]

its siyoung's work

[dry atlas]

true especially the one standing

[hoary frost]

if ador survives this, maybe they can work w petra for first full album

[grizzled fulcrum]

New here and just caught up on all of this and I am astounded by the mental gymnastics people are doing to defend HYBE on reddit. Like if it were their fave they'd without a doubt see this differently. They've been wishing for a NewJeans downfall since day one.

[old cypress]

yeah classic reddit

[acoustic valve]

reddit's a lost cause, absolutely brainwashed themselves

[silk skiff]

they rly despise mhj there

[grizzled fulcrum]

I've been off the main kpop sub for a looooong time now bc they've always been so weird about things there. But I checked in this am to see what they were saying now and wtf. They will defend HYBE to the end. It's gross.

[dry atlas]

you are not typing what i think you are

will it be the same thing

[grizzled fulcrum]

They've always been anti women there. Idk how else to put it lol

[hoary frost]

i mean twitter is same, hybe fandoms united more than ever to defend bang daddy

[acoustic valve]

want me to link or copy paste?

[dry atlas]

[old cypress]

nah they're just armies defending bang pd and the rest is just parroting whatever top upvotes say

[grizzled fulcrum]

I don't do Twitter either. Can't handle the fan wars and stuff. I like to think of myself as a pretty level headed person. I'm a girl in early 30s just trying to pay my bills and find some joy. And those spaces 1. Aren't meant for me bc I'm old lol and. 2. Make me feel crazy bc they're literally defending a psycho right now lol

[old cypress]

on twitter you can choose your space

[vale grove]

Gonna pull a orbit and boycott the CB if I keep hearing news of this mistreatment and "long vacation" smh/hj

[old cypress]

nah buy that cb and boycott the next one

[dry atlas]

do the opposite, make this the most successful gg comeback ever

[grizzled fulcrum]

Help meeeee. Lol. I literally tried it once and noped out of there immediately

[vale grove]

I don't wanna give them my money during this time lmao

[dry atlas]

boycott when the sound ans everything else has changed

[acoustic valve]

but yeah, personally have blocked all reddit subs that deal in topics that can even be mildly contentious and it's been great for my mental health. The large subs always eventually become a breeding ground and echo-chamber of the worst reactionary opinions

[dry atlas]

but yeah you do you

[vale grove]

Maybe idk. Also I'm not sure what a boycott would do in a situation like this

[old cypress]

Follow the nicer accounts and don't ever click the "For you" tab

[quick wadi]

tokkitim is a pretty nice account

[dry atlas]

ok tim is here I'm out

[quick wadi]

no no I am not watching this chat

[grizzled fulcrum]

I know the Newjeans sub is at least alot more nuanced about it which is good to see and they're not defending a giant corporation like they're getting paid to like the main kpop sub lol

[acoustic valve]

atp I wouldn't even be surprised, I'm seeing some KR youtubers come out to bat for Hybe today, they clearly pulling out every connection and chequebook they have to run mediaplay

not to mention the classic institutional media like newspapers... a whole flood of pro-hybe articles again today

[vale grove]

I am realizing it might be harder to organize a boycott since pre-orders for this CB STARTED rn, and we would have to try and convince j-tokkis not to buy the next album. Also we have less of a core fandom and more of a general public fandom so it would probably fruitless unless run by j-tokkis

[acoustic valve]

then again, when u got insane army willing to do all this for free... why pay them

[dry atlas]

https://youtu.be/ATkRcdsQhf8

[quick wadi]

message I’m seeing is to make this cb the greatest one

[vale grove]

Basically

[dry atlas]

when does it end

[quick wadi]

soooo buy buy buy

[acoustic valve]

if it makes u feel better, the boycott won't matter anyway. Even if NJ CB tanks; Hybe will just mediaplay it as MHJ's fault and say "see this is why we needed to come in"

[quick wadi]

and participate in voting

[grizzled fulcrum]

Ughhhh. I hate all of this sm. For a while I was hopeful they'd somehow come out of this with MHJ and be able to move forward with their music. But I'm starting to think we're gonna see the worst case scenario play out now :/

[acoustic valve]

no matter what happens, Hybe will mediaplay it as MHJ's fault and that Hybe are the good guys and iroaches will buy that like rats to cheese

[vale grove]

What I think would work better, is to make a huge FUSS about the comeback and make this one go insane and this is why NewJeans CANT go on a hiatus disguised as a vacation 😁

[red shore]

a boycott will only hurt the girls bruh?? Like it will make the group useless and less profitable to everyone involved.

[vale grove]

Boycotts aren't always a bad thing but I'm literally saying in this case after thinking about it, it's not a good idea soooo

[acoustic valve]

Just do what was the original core of NJ and Ador's marketing anyway: Support and partake in NJ because it brings you joy, not to chase some arbitrary success metrics, or the opposite for that matter. This is what made many fall in love with the group, not the toxic success metrics BSH is trying to force into his groups

If Hybe really does take over and takes the joy out of NJ for its fans... not much can be done. I just hope the girls find some good lawyers and escape their contracts if need be

[vale grove]

😞 do you think if they escaped their contract it would negatively affect their careers?

[old cypress]

people are siding with nj so prob not

[red shore]

It probably would. It depends on how they do it. But they will most likely be black listed, have little funds for comebacks and might be seen as traitors.

[old cypress]

they debuted with little funds anyway and dropped attention & hype boy

[acoustic valve]

I think that if they can continue making music and content with people that they appreciate and in turn appreciates them, I don't think it matters too much. They'll have enough clout to be successful enough with or without the NJ name or Hybe

[red shore]

...source for this? And besides they had Hybe behind them, their videos were literally posted on Hybe's main channel with millions of subscribers.

[acoustic valve]

blacklisted? From what? Variety shows? They already have been and this isn't 2004, you can't blacklist a group when the platforms that matter most are youtube and tiktok

[red shore]

They haven't been blacklisted from variety shows? They're literally going to one/ will be on one soon. And social media matters but if you don't have the name or money to push yourself you'll just be like every other struggling artist trying to have that one viral moment.

[old cypress]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NewJeans/comments/10jo4pc/230121_min_heejin_interview_full_translation/

[vale grove]

I believe in an older interview before NewJeans debut, mhj mentioned something about hybe not trusting the brand of newjeans and not giving her the budget she asked for. Although I do not have the source for this as well

[acoustic valve]

yeah, going after almost 2 years of being SK's most famous GG. Feel free to guess why it didn't happen before. And if you think Hybe hasn't been intentionally sabotaging NJ since even before debut at this point, I rly don't know what to tell u

[red shore]

Alright so I read through this. I'd skimmed it before but I read the full thing now. She doesn't mention Hybe giving her a small budget. These were her exact words: "The 1st EP budget was not hastily planned at all. Lots of folks mentioned HYBE’s capital regarding the 4 MVs and their production budget. HYBE has no say over ADOR’s production plan or how the funds are spent, because we were promised autonomy in business management. Our budget is not too different from other companies or labels, because the production budget was planned from my experience with budgeting and market research. If anything, we were much more efficient given the amount produced."

[red shore]

Someone else sent the source so it's fine

[red shore]

...Ador manages NJ and does what they want with them. So if NJ doesn't go on variety shows it's Ador, not Hybe. And why do you think Hybe would intentionally sabotage one of their biggest girl groups? Please give an honest answer for this.

[short laurel]

why would u do boycott this CB. this CB is with MHJ. if u want boycott do it the next CB

[short laurel]

that's not 1 or 2 steps. that's a whole choreo

[twin cypress]

I still wouldn’t boycott their next comeback if mhj is gone it would only hurt the girls. I rather boycott every other hybe group especially illit

[acoustic valve]

Because BSH's ego and his cabal of old corporate yes men run that company. He can't handle his own groups being out-performed by NJ and being called out for cannibilizing NJ's concept severely damaged that uncreative prick's pride. In the grand scheme of things, Ador's profit won't matter much if it means a petty man like him can get his way

[hoary frost]

did their choreographers just compile nj choreos and made a mashup like its insane lol

[red shore]

You really think he would put ego over cold hard cash? Especially since he has to answer to a whole lot of people?

[short laurel]

black list won't work on nj in todays age.

[red shore]

Keep in mind that if they leave, they won't have the NJ name. They won't have their songs and won't be allowed to perform them. They would have to start from scratch.

[short laurel]

okay here's the thing. unlike other kpop groups. NJ members are already pretty famous as individuals this early. they'll easily make it. it won't be as big as it is now but it won't be low.

[acoustic valve]

Answer to what? Between him and his brother they own over 40% of Hybe, not to mention he's definitely got enough other shareholders in there that are ride-or-die for him such as scooter braun. He doesn't need to answer to no-one. And yes, Ador's profit doesn't mean much in the grand scheme, he can afford the slight lost.

[red shore]

They aren't that famous as individuals yet. It's more the group and the group's aesthetic that they're riding. And there's nothing wrong with that! They're still at the start of their careers. Which is exactly why a blacklist would hurt them.

[vale grove]

I thought mhj was apart of next CB too and full album as well?

[short laurel]

not if mhj got kicked this monthh

[hoary frost]

killing the said aesthetic and sound would hurt equally.

[vale grove]

I doubt they would scrap what she started tbh

[hoary frost]

nj isnt winning in any scenario thats saddest part

[short laurel]

it's still much bigger than u are makign it out ot be. they can easily make it. they not have to be super famous to be successful.

[acoustic valve]

The members and their team at Ador would 100% be better off without Hybe or even the NJ name, anyone that thinks otherwise are delusional and lowkey want the girls to suffer

[red shore]

40% is a minority of shares. I think everyone will agree that NJ have a lot of potential and can be much bigger than they already are. Which means way more profit. Again, do you think the people he has to answer to will let him sabotage a group that can bring in hundreds of millions?

[short laurel]

50% shares are float. they not have voting rights.

[red shore]

They don't. But starting from scratch will definitely make it harder for them.

[short laurel]

ofc it will. but they are much better of without hybe. u rather them be famous and suffer or be small and enjoy their life ?

[acoustic valve]

if you think owning 40% of a publicly traded company doesn't give you pretty much authoritarian rule over the company then you just have no knowledge how things work lmfao

[ashen charm]

They would be blacklisted aka career over

[hoary frost]

why not? they have new group who apparently surpassed nj. bts is coming back and their tour alone will keep hybe afloat for another decade. hybe can always pour another 150 million for new survival show and create girl group. what is nj to them other than troublesome kids who support mhj?

[opaque torrent]

Saving all of my doom and gloom for Friday

[short laurel]

they can't blacklist them easily. this is 2024. stop living in past.

[twin cypress]

I’m sorry but you can’t blacklist a group this big especially if they sign to some huge label outside Korea like Sony or umg

[red shore]

My point is that he is not the only one in charge. Why would other people go along with a plan that would only hurt their pocket??

[short laurel]

cuz rich people in korea hate women incharge.

[opaque torrent]

People have already answered you #1231839760759263232 message

[red shore]

when did illit surpass nj? They aren't even in the top of 4th gen conversations yet.

[short laurel]

according hybe's media play in korea they did. ofc it's false

[acoustic valve]

Have you not been watching what's been happening the last 3 weeks? They quite literally displayed they are going along with it. And I'd argue against that this would "hurt their pockets". Getting on the bad side and angering a man like BSH as an employee of Hybe would hurt them far more than whatever effect Ador and NJ being destroyed would

[red shore]

their pak is admirable but that doesn't mean that they have surpassed nj

[twin cypress]

That’s cause they are the top of the 5th gen according to all the records they’ve broken

[hoary frost]

bc they are 5th gen leaders

i love generation talk. its so funny fjdjdjdjd

[short laurel]

it's kinda funny how 5th gen copy nj but nj are nto considered starting 5th gen

[old cypress]

They didn't have a higher budget compared to other companies. They made 4 mvs with that budget. Newjeans members got paid 2 months after debut, a record in the industry. You can connect the dots. Point is 1- They didn't have a massive budget. 2- They can redo Hype Boy as it didn't require big 4 tier funds

[old cypress]

5th gen doesn't exist that's why

[red shore]

because mhj has been accused of crimes. And even with what they've been doing, they aren't hurting nj as a brand or individual s but are only targeting mhj. They've been saying that their comeback will go along as scheduled

[short laurel]

no gen exists. it's just fandom made up thing.

[old cypress]

No, industry insiders and critics talk about generations as well. It's kinda obvious

[red shore]

I meant to say 5th gen. If i'm being real i don't think 5th gen has started properly but that is a convo for another day lol

[dry atlas]

@navier bruh what is your name

[short laurel]

yea. i was talking from fandom prespective. how they saperate gen

[acoustic valve]

Yeah you either haven't followed what's been happening or some hybe dick rider, i'm done

[valid sierra]

bro Team ADOR is going all in

[hoary frost]

interesting take on generations (turn on cc)
https://youtu.be/wi_FKaZQjRA?si=wVi_Yp6nkedzBrsM

[hoary frost]

omggg

[old cypress]

allout war

[dry atlas]

lmaaaoooioi

fuck belift bro

[red shore]

She said herself that their budget was the same as other labels. If you don't believe that then question her I guess?

[short laurel]

who is the insta user ?

[dry atlas]

their head choreographer, performance director

kim eunju

[short laurel]

ooh

[hoary frost]

oh shit she didn't even know until the youtube video was uploaded?

[red shore]

i'm not dick ridig hybe but okay lol

[old cypress]

companies or labels and they did 4 (four) mvs with that

[hoary frost]

anyways dont make my perf directors mad! how dare they!!

[twin cypress]

F**k it I’m want to hear the girls opinions come out

[hoary frost]

"not dick riding hybe" "only targeting mhj"

choose one

[old cypress]

what do they mean by advertising choreography ?

[hoary frost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATkRcdsQhf8

[dry atlas]

oops

[red shore]

Yes, because she said she was efficient with what she was given. Her experience in the industry made her efficient. Where did you get "hybe gave her little funds" from that?

[old cypress]

ohh from ads

[valid sierra]

HOLY FUCKKK

[old cypress]

I feel bad for illit girls they didn't deserve that

[red shore]

Please point out where Hybe has targeted NJ in a statement. If they were really targeting them they would have pause their cb promotions instead of demanding that they go on as usual

[short laurel]

ok ok i m confused. from what i saw hybe did give less funds to her than other labels. but now peopel saying hybe gave her equal amount ?

[acoustic valve]

i mean, it's pretty clear what their opinions are regardless, what would their actual voices change? Did it help make people support 5050 more?

[valid sierra]

WE ARE INDEED GOING TO A WAR

[ashen charm]

Sony maybe umg works with hybe so no

[twin cypress]

Yea they won’t stop their current comeback but they will shelve them for two years afterwards 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[short laurel]

do u really think the drama happening right now makes any sense to be in public this early? they went early waay too early and right be4 bubble gum release. timing is clearly bad.

[twin cypress]

I mean at this point they gotta fight for their lives against hybes plans for them

[red shore]

From MHJ's own mouth she said their budget was equal to other labels, they were just efficient with it. Idk where she said she was given a small budget?

[hoary frost]

The entire reason this started was cause BSH copied newjeans lmao, they were always the target

[dry atlas]

i remember that from an interview

[red shore]

Where did Hybe say that? I haven't heard that. And besides BP has a comeback once every blue moon and they're fine soooo

[short laurel]

@dry atlas was nj budget lesser than other or same?

[acoustic valve]

I'm sure they and their families are with their lawyers behind the scenes. It's such a difficult situation to navigate but I think it's clear what their desires are whether they publicly speak out themselves or not

[short laurel]

todays news. go read it

[dry atlas]

idr if it was same or less, but key point was efficient use of it

[old cypress]

they made four mvs with it. Four.

[twin cypress]

See this is how I know you don’t read the documents sent at all

[red shore]

I agree they went public too early but idk when else they could have done it. BG comes out May, Supernatural comes out in June then their fan meeting happens soon after.

[short laurel]

dude they could've jsut come out when court was done. what is with all the media play they did ?

they decided ot start public drama when investigation wasn't even started.

[red shore]

Yes, because that's what she wanted lmao. She decided to make 4 mvs. And she did it very well and efficiently. I don't see the problem honestly.

[short laurel]

like it would've been short drama and over. but they made it month logn drama

[red shore]

i'm not online 24/7, i'm sorry I don't see everything sent here??

[old cypress]

Do you remember your original point that led to this convo? It's whether newjeans can redebut with the same quality and the answer is yes and they don't need that much money for it as mhj is being efficient with funds

[short laurel]

everything is in pins. read those 1st be4 arguing about some poitns then

[twin cypress]

If you don’t see everything then don’t come on here with a hard stance against mhj and side with hybe

[short laurel]

also ok nj got equal budget. then why did hybe block them from promotign be4 debut ?

[dry atlas]

that is the least you can do before yapping

[hoary frost]

list of ador staff that will get fired:
min heejin
yemin kim
choi yumi
bana - keyon kim, 250, frnk
im jeikim
blackq

[short laurel]

basically everyone other than girls.

[red shore]

Yeah but you said they had little funds. I was arguing that point. They can make mvs on any budget.

[dry atlas]

do i need kr number to register in theqoo

[twin cypress]

Like whenever someone talks to you @red shore they have to explain every article to you just for you to play the contrarian and question everything like we are just making it up

[dry atlas]

yeah they will gut ador. all creatives gone

[hoary frost]

idk how they think newjeans wasn't "blacklisted" from korean variety shows lol... everyone was shocked when newjeans came out on chimchakman's channel and not on the ones that gg usually show up on.

[old cypress]

For 4 MVs yes it was not a lot. We're going in circles so let's just move on lol

[acoustic valve]

I mean, I've been saying that since day 1. Any1 that thought otherwise was coping

[hoary frost]

can someone translate blackq post? was he being sarcastic in last sentence

[arctic sky]

Eh what happened?

[dry atlas]

yes

[hoary frost]

i know he has sass. my king

[hoary frost]

yea thats probably why they need 1 year and 6 months after this promo, since they're ripping ador all down

[red shore]

I'm siding with no one. I don't like Hybe and have previously admitted to their faults. I just don't see a need to take MHJ on her word for everything because her behavior so far (dragging Illit into something that doesn't concern them, the cookie fiasco) has been disgusting. That doesn't mean Hybe isn't gross tho

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/NewJeansSTRM/status/1789934592570323113?t=W4E25xai15JlRbhhooN6jQ&s=09

뉴진스 음원총공팀 (@NewJeansSTRM) on X

📢 트럭총공 추가 진행 및 대응 안내

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 8:23 AM

Kbunnies going to war.

[hoary frost]

belift choreographers about to post middle fingers

[hoary frost]

"Dragging illit into something that doesn't concern them" ah i see why you're so hellbent on dickriding hybe

[copper jetty]

Guys please be civil

[short laurel]

this remiinds me of them copyign other choreographers dance but not crediting. did hyeb ever fixed that ?

[red shore]

I don't even stan illit, but what are you saying? That only Hybe dickriders can be pissed a bunch of teens were dragged into something that doesn't concern them?

[old cypress]

Apparently MHJ should have said "that belift girl group who recently debuted and whose concept strongly resembles NJ" instead of "ILLIT"

[acoustic valve]

Nah, they can easily create a team and make concepts and content in a short period if they wanted. It's literally what they've been doing with every group with all these copy paste concepts taken from existing artists anyway. They just want NJ itself to suffer as well

[old cypress]

apparently people would've been okay if mhj said that instead of name dropping although it's obvious to everyone and their mothers that it's illit

[arctic sky]

Can someone fill me up on whats happening lol

[old cypress]

choreographers going to war

[hoary frost]

we are trying out best to separate belift management from the group named illit. i advise oldshirts to do same. ador staff sees issue, they take it up with belift, you are screaming illit was unfairly dragged in issue that does not concern them. do u hear yourself? lol

[dry atlas]

[acoustic valve]

htf does this not concern them. you're either insane or a fool

[hoary frost]

literally lol

[short laurel]

old shirt go and c why this drama started in the 1st place.

[dry atlas]

read the letter from the parents and get back to us

[twin cypress]

No single illit member has been dragged or personally named. It’s always been about the adults who run illit

[red shore]

name calling again. y'all cannot have a simple convo in here. And mhj's alleged crimes don't concern illit. that is what this started with before Ador named them in their first press release

[red shore]

bang pd seems stupid. he literally did the same thing to v. V of all people. He didn't recognize him or answer his greetings. this seems to be normal for him

[twin cypress]

So you question everything that comes from adors side but don’t question hybes claims that she commited a “crime” ok buddy

[hoary frost]

jesus

[red shore]

did you see how I said alleged crime? bruh

[twin cypress]

I did see that’s why I put “crime” in parentheses

[old cypress]

The audit was hybe's answer to the internal complaint filed by MHJ, I don't think she had any other choice since hybe made everything public

[red shore]

this seems to be how a lot of bunnies think, which is why so many people are being snarky to illit

[old cypress]

I like illit, the members

[short laurel]

1st of all. it's alleged breach of trust not alleged crime. there's no crime happened. just alleged breach of trust.

[twin cypress]

Well too bad when bunnies have to see their favorite group being mistreated and shelved no one cares about how illit feels

[short laurel]

lets stop this. no one hates illit n nj. that's for twitter and reddit. what we hate is belift n hybe. MHJ even said that in ehr interview.

[dry atlas]

ok

anyone who mentions illit from now will be timed out

[red shore]

So they would go all out, file a police report and accuse one of their biggest money makers of this when she told them she was being copied? I don't feel that it makes sense

[short laurel]

it doesn't cuz it's less about money and more about bang's ego

[hoary frost]

[short laurel]

well it is about money but short term money. as in trying to make mhj's shares lower so they have to pay her less

[hoary frost]

old shirt doesn't understand, all they know is "cold hard cash"

[red shore]

because this is a business we're discussing lol. But it's fine. i'll leave y'all to it.

[hoary frost]

la la la la la - mcdonalds tune.

[upper solstice]

belift 💩

[short laurel]

do u really think bang has any bussiness sense? just look at everythign he did in the past. only reason he is surviving is cuz of BTS

[red shore]

idk why my messages keep sending before im done

[acoustic valve]

so where in this "it's all about money" does an 18 month hiatus for a group not even 2 years old make sense?

[hoary frost]

audit launched after parents sent email to hybe but we have to convince ourselves that it does not have anything with belift. okie dokie pokie

[hoary frost]

if business was the main issue, why doesn't he fire park jiwon? who's apparently negative in all his ventures?

[old cypress]

I suggest you read up previous articles and watch mhj's press con

[steep torrent]

i think the dance choreographers posting that pretty much confirms they are getting replaced too right?

[hoary frost]

yes. its north korea

[short laurel]

seriously! hybe's behaviour is like north korea!

[old cypress]

IMO they're just following the parents lead and fighting back

[dry atlas]

i think it was just the straw that broke the camel's back

[old cypress]

yeah

[dry atlas]

the mcdo i mean not the parents thing

[acoustic valve]

unironically fits, both lead by men severely overcompensating due to their inferiority complex and demand for respect and acclaim from others despite their obvious flaws

[short laurel]

if anyone complains. kill them. in hybe's case attempt character assassination of mhj.

[old cypress]

BSH wants to be the genius producer that turns anything into gold

[acoustic valve]

he wants to be LSM, but is taking all the shortcuts, he got the evil part down pat though

[dry atlas]

do you talk about this server on reddit?can you link me the post

[old cypress]

his plan is prob get the grammy producer to make the song, add some touchups so bsh would be credited and claim it was all his doing

[short laurel]

atleast LSM relationship with his idols was genuine. bang it seems have some problems with bts memebrs

[acoustic valve]

LSM didn't get to where he is by blindly and soullessly copying trends. Whatever you say about him, he still had his own creative vision to tell, even if they were cringe at times. BSH just looks at whatever is popular and hits copy paste

[short laurel]

i remember hearing that BTS were not happy with direction their music was going

[steep torrent]

can mcdonalds sue them

[hoary frost]

-brings in Nexon gaming CEO
-HybeIM (gaming software & dev) net income -20.9 billion won (-15 million USD)
-?????
-Fire Ador CEO (net income 20 million USD)
-?????

[old cypress]

even newjeansloops is posting about choreographers, today news was a tipping point for many

[tawdry vessel]

yeah the 1 year and 6 months hiatus thingy broke most tokkis

[acoustic valve]

what i will always deliciously enjoy is that they got so impressively scammed by scooter to the tune of 1 billion USD. I hate that scooter makes so much money, but if he was going to scam someone anyway, couldn't have happened to a more fitting company and chairman

[hoary frost]

true, its sad that army doesn't realize that money should've gone to the members.

[arctic sky]

This whole thing is a mess, gettin' more n more embarassing

[short laurel]

would be funny when bts comes out of militry and just leaves hybe.

[hoary frost]

they have contracts

[short laurel]

resigned contracts are for 3 years right? how long they have ?

[hoary frost]

i have no idea what scooter brings to hybe other than zionism ofc

[acoustic valve]

bieber and ariana.... oh wait

[hoary frost]

wait

[short laurel]

so nothing

[hoary frost]

i guess he is just bang pd's fishing partner

all he has is connections and he is not even liked in western industry lol

ithaca is major scam. it was said since day 1

[short laurel]

so a bad man from west and bad man from east united.

[acoustic valve]

it's just a bunch of rich petty and disgusting men feeding each other's egos. I'm not even sure they care that much about a few hundred million if they feel it serves their pride and vindictiveness to punish those they dislike

since like some people keep pointing out, only 30% of it was his own money anyway

[upper solstice]

what if they transfer nj to belift

[old cypress]

literally robbed hybe lol

[hoary frost]

literally. poor bts. they got like 0.16% even tho they are the ones that made hybe

[ashen charm]

Now we're talking

[hoary frost]

meanwhile there are western acts who have done nothing but were handed shares

[short laurel]

why would they trasnfer 2 similar groups in same label ?

[hoary frost]

to make 10 members group named illjeans

[short laurel]

oo god

[sinful arch]

i fear that Fromis will get new basement buddies

[short laurel]

fromis getting a CB.

complaining worked

[sinful arch]

NJs case will be diff

[upper solstice]

id follow illjeans the industry needs a 10+ gg

[ashen charm]

F9 don't get promotion because of peldis which is another story

[grim shell]

BSH is the Drake of CEO's, LSM kept it real like Kendrick

[hoary frost]

*twt
https://x.com/tuna_rollbap/status/1789966382324502913

[harsh dove]

@tuna_rollbap <t:1715596216:d>

[hoary frost]

lmaoooooo

[old cypress]

stan triples

[hoary frost]

isnt 24 too much

[old cypress]

they do subunits, it's like nct

plus they're cute

[hoary frost]

but i used to stan keyakizaka so who am i to say this fjdjdjdjd

[hoary frost]

yeah i know. they always release new music

loool can the illit performance director not make it any more obvious?
https://x.com/soyamoyas/status/1790024317880721634

bernice | 🫧🍀catnipz month (@soyamoyas) on X

That groups performance director follows a whole bunch of famous choreographers including team eoddae - black q’s team

But the funny thing is none of those choreographers follow her back

If you have any dignity as a choreographer you should apologise

#BUNNIES_SUPPORT_NWJNS

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 2:20 PM

choreographers always follow each other tbh

[hoary frost]

i love that comment which says he must be deaf too

[hoary frost]

but they dont follow her back 👀

[orchid field]

like that .mp3

[hoary frost]

well

lolllll

[opaque torrent]

i feel bad for all the creatives involved. they're on the same level as the idols themselves for me.

even illit's creatives. i have no doubt that they were directed to capture nj's aesthetic and make references

[acoustic valve]

bsh is trully a hannam to the very end

[short laurel]

bang didn't even recorgnise V ?

[acoustic valve]

Yes, I don't directly blame illit's creatives either, well not the bulk of the blame anyway. They were clearly directed to or chosen because they closely resembled NJ's concept. It's the fact that everything is lining up that it's like this and that is completely on management's shoulders

[grim shell]

grr so angerry

[short laurel]

https://www.pannchoa.com/2024/05/theqoo-exclusive-newjeans-parents-bang.html kpeople calling him hannam here xD

[ashen charm]

The group that travels literally buy bus ijbol 😭😭🚍😂😂

[acoustic valve]

thankfully the Koreaboo editors aren't BTS stans like most of kpop-media

[opaque torrent]

I still don’t know why they’re involved lol

Do they really believe MHJ cast BTS away?

[sinful arch]

https://fxtwitter.com/OutsoldWithEase/status/1789993525876019421

[sinful arch]

its the government of sk and nasty old men that did that lmao

[opaque torrent]

It seems more credible to them that MHJ shamanism is effective than bang pd throwing a tantrum bc he cannot control a female employee and is threatened by her

[hoary frost]

he is doing everything opposite of what he said in this speech. its so fake lol

[fierce cloak]

im praying for some magic would happen
MHJ seems kinda too naive and trust people too much that's why bsh and pjw backstab her, but same time she's master of strategy and always success, way smarter than bsh and pjw, and so far a lot of things hybe said can become evidence agaisnt themselves, i actually can see if mhj and nj able to have enough time and funding they actually can win this case
But ofc, nj career will hit a period of pause 🤔

[acoustic valve]

I believe it's only the most toxic, parasocial and over-protective in that fandom that continue to behave the way they are defending every blatant mediaplay by Hybe... but when we're talking about a fandom as vast as ARMY, that still means a lot of people, more than bunnies as a whole still

[sterile umbra]

haha, guys, i find something hilarious in the comsec. can you confirm it if it's legit

• https://youtu.be/wmjaB2p1st8?si=8IbfXih91cgOhVpu

[fallow canopy]

did anyone see this

[acoustic valve]

yes, scroll up, you will find people yapping about it the last 6 hours

[sterile umbra]

yeah, someone said from the rumors that hybe will give newjeans a 1.5yr "long vacation" after tokyo dome

[fallow canopy]

its ridiculous

[fierce cloak]

it's NJ parents

[acoustic valve]

it is ridiculous, however, not surprising. Hybe's goals have been pretty clear since day 1, it's only getting more so now

[sterile umbra]

oh

i guess i'm late for the news huhuhu

[fierce cloak]

yeah they literally want to shelf NJ so people forgetting about them while replace them with Illit, it's just very obvious by now

[fallow canopy]

if this is true im actually going to go mad

[sterile umbra]

sk already knows the happenings inside hybe ador issue

[fallow canopy]

isnt sk on nj side

[fierce cloak]

yeah NJ parents actually went to meet hybe and park jiwon said after tokyo dome NJ will have "long vacation" until they find new "grammy award producer"

[hoary frost]

newjeans yes, but mhj's side depends on the demographic

[acoustic valve]

need sk to speak up against blatant corporate overreach for once and stop hybe from doing whatever they want just because they can cover it all up with money

[fallow canopy]

grammy awkward producer??

[sterile umbra]

i won't go backreading guys since i'm lazy, sorry XD

[opaque torrent]

I think MHJ/parents know the inevitable. They’re just putting it out there so every move HYBE makes will be scrutinized

[fierce cloak]

and news source too
JTBC is more pro mhj
Even the news that interview NJ parents today also a subsidiary of JTBC

CBS is anti dahn world

While YTN is pro hybe/ dahn world

Others like kbs, sbs seems neutral but sometimes slow in news so the comments are mixed

[fallow canopy]

what do u guys think will be the conclusion

[sterile umbra]

that's very creepy about the relation between hybe and illit. wth

[opaque torrent]

And they are pressured to treat NJ fairly

[sterile umbra]

if the death threats against mhj were true, hope that she'll sue them

[fierce cloak]

a high chance will be reveal this may 17th, if the court said mhj can be fired, or cannot be fired by hybe

[steep torrent]

I dont even want to face may 17 man.. I think everyone knows what the results will be

[fierce cloak]

yeah another "hope" is even if mhj being fired, she can counter sue hybe for plagiarism, breach of trust,...etc

[fallow canopy]

newjeans is my ult ult ult group ill be extremely sad if they cant continue on

[sterile umbra]

let's hope big, the fight isn't over yet, we have the chance to take over

the uno reverse card isn't fully activated yet

[fierce cloak]

ngl i actually hope that ador being disolved and all contract of mhj and nj is broken so they can be free from hybe

[vale grove]

I think we should do some sort of fan campaign in support of newjeans

[steep torrent]

praying so hard mhj has a trump card so crazy that it will end this all but I doubt it

[acoustic valve]

even if injunction doesn't go through, it will be far from the end. The only definitive end is if and when MHJ actually gets convicted for breach of trust

[fierce cloak]

K-tokkis is planning truck message

[fierce cloak]

yeah, or she give up, or run out of money

[vale grove]

I think international tokkis should do stuff too, as an international tokki myself

[old cypress]

the best we can do is to correct fake news

[sterile umbra]

i'll be expecting that the message would be present everywhere in sk, even in other billboards near hybe building

[steep torrent]

can she save herself before may 31

[acoustic valve]

and it's not just MHJ herself that will be affected by the breach of trust case either. The girls and their own legal possibilities hinges a lot on how that case develops. The less Hybe is justified in starting all this, the stronger the girls case will be in seeking damages or even freeing themselves from this evil company

[vale grove]

😞

[acoustic valve]

If Hybe is proven to have committed some severe mismanagement here by unfairly dismissing MHJ, I'm sure a path will open up for the girls to free themselves

[sterile umbra]

i guess this is the main line issue right now in sk, right?

[opaque torrent]

Why? These do nothing but enrich truckers lol

[hoary frost]

People say such dumb shit

[opaque torrent]

They have CCTV footage of everyday interactions between MHJ and HYBE. Take their word for it

[acoustic valve]

There;s always several issues heating up SK... but I'd say yeah this story has gone pretty big as far as kpop is concerned, mostly due to the press conference and its virality

[opaque torrent]

Lmao how can you gaslight someone when they are a complete and total stranger on the other side of the world

[sterile umbra]

brainwashed people are like this

a supreme invalidator and a one-sided individual

[acoustic valve]

It's the only way they can hit back; by smearing Hybe's name publicly as much as possible. For better or worse, that's the purpose of the trucks. It does more than nothing

[cyan rivet]

What the f

[sterile umbra]

man, the relation between hybe and illit feels like || satanic ||

[cyan rivet]

A year and a half of inactivity?

[tired ingot]

if that's happen, hybe is joke

[acoustic valve]

and the best case scenario even after an 18 month hiatus under hybe is that they come back with some mundane concept Hybe management cooked up with an uninspired song by some western producer looking for a quick buck by composing a top 40 song with whatever genre is popular on the BBH100 at the time

[hoary frost]

"unforgotten"

[ocean arch]

"the grammy producer"

[sterile umbra]

if the 1.5 yr "long vacation" might happen, their comeback will be having a huge surprise and another cool unique superb new music for sure.

[old cypress]

girl crush

[ocean arch]

It'll be like the ending of ditto side B

[old cypress]

newjeans will be different from the other group, problem solved

[hoary frost]

they will probably try to make their image different from OOO

[sterile umbra]

hybe is a joke

[hoary frost]

OOO is so funny

Mr A Mr B Mr L OOO

[cyan rivet]

No new producers.

[acoustic valve]

BSH couldn't cook up a single genuinely inspired concept for his own favorite GGs, sure he's going to make one happen for NJ whom he openly hates and ignores after an 18 month hiatus

[hoary frost]

someone buy those damned 31% shares

[cyan rivet]

No phoning or something for 18months?

[acoustic valve]

drop hybe's shares down to 5 won and I will

[hoary frost]

hajjsjd soon!

i hope it falls below 150k so national pension can fume

[sterile umbra]

i'm manifesting for nj's future collab with some well known music artists, like charlie puth, etc and many much more

[cyan rivet]

0.0047$ = 5 won

[hoary frost]

we only accept Max Martin as Grammy producer and Ariana feature!

[tired ingot]

Grammy producer my a*s, they just wanted get rid of newjeans

[ocean arch]

Cool very optimistic, we need someone like u here

[sterile umbra]

that would be great maybe

[placid rose]

newjeans getting the middle child treatment from hybe 😭

[cyan rivet]

Who will make NJ's song? Still 250?

[hoary frost]

in reality, you will get ryan tedder's uninspiring songs and Max feature

[acoustic valve]

i just need the girls to continue creating music and content they're proud of with a team they trust and appreciate, and I don't see that happening under Hybe in any scenario when the man who controls the company literally goes out of his way to make their lives miserable by ignoring their greetings in public

[cyan rivet]

But no 18 months

[hoary frost]

no. someone hybe hires

[sterile umbra]

no

T.T

[cyan rivet]

Oh fuck hybe again

better for nj to leave hybe

[acoustic valve]

definitely

[sterile umbra]

why is it that other entertainment companies are like having || dictator/communist || attitude

[hoary frost]

Gross. He sucks

let babymonster sing Puth rejects

[cyan rivet]

torture bang 18 months is better

[sterile umbra]

why

[hoary frost]

Nj are much better than that

[tired ingot]

if they leave hybe, it would be difficult for they be together again, but maybe that's better instead getting hiatus for 18 months

[acoustic valve]

why?

[short laurel]

why difficult? it would depend on them to be together or not. there's nothign "difficult" about that

[sterile umbra]

it won't be difficult for them to be together again

[cyan rivet]

Bang IQ⁵ < Bang weight

[old cypress]

that doesn't work well lol

[short laurel]

that's still is alot of range for IQ

[cyan rivet]

Fixed it

[ocean arch]

0^5 is still 0

[hoary frost]

this one comment lol

[cyan rivet]

LMAO

[hoary frost]

3G??? he is caveman

[sterile umbra]

bang 🤝 📉🔻

[ocean arch]

Can't laugh because 4G doesn't work well in my neighborhood

[hoary frost]

Koreans complain that 5G is slow in Korea, how does 3G even work

[cyan rivet]

5G is slow

[short laurel]

isn't korea like 1st country to implement 5G ?

[old cypress]

sortof

[sterile umbra]

but why i'm laughing, it's because i can relate to what orph said. slow internet here when using sim data

[short laurel]

there are countries who not even have 2G.

[sterile umbra]

really? i didn't expect that tho

[cyan rivet]

Ohio using 722G

[ocean arch]

Sameee lol but my situation is because of my country political situations so I won't talk abt it anymore xD

[copper jetty]

Did Hybe refute the "long hiatus" thingy?
Please refute it!

[short laurel]

i guess there is not even backlash yet so they just going with it.

[hoary frost]

no they confirmed it

[copper jetty]

Where???

[hoary frost]

they did. they said they did not mean it that way. they meant nj would get vacation after tokyo dome like vacations between comeback activities. hybe does not even give vacations to their groups, who believes this

[cyan rivet]

Take long hiatus for your stomach bang lol

[sterile umbra]

can mhj sue them for damages to property (that includes the mental state and emotional state) ? or, is there any law against damages to property in sk?

[ocean arch]

Even Lsf's Day off is just more work for the girls lmao the irony

[cyan rivet]

No sub sorry

[sterile umbra]

i can google lens that for you guys

[cyan rivet]

How lucky I am to be able to read articles in kor

[sterile umbra]

*In fact, stock players who had a strong tendency to criticize CEO Min

In Munity, after Hive kicked out CEO Min, New Gene

It took about a year and a half in the process of appointing a new producer to

I even told you that I would give you a break of about a month.

The loss is causing public outrage. Shareholders said, “Within the current label

It is the most valuable and took a break less than 3 years after its debut.

For girl groups who have to work continuously without time, 'Gunbaek'

They are trying to force a ‘gi (gap period from military service)’ level of rest.

He protested, saying, "If this isn't Hive's breach of trust, what is it?"

Eve will take special care of New Genes during this period.

Although it was announced that it would already replace New Jeans such as eyelets.

With the group in place, this period is a ‘rest period’.

No one can predict whether it will be a ‘receipt period’ or not.

am.*

[cyan rivet]

New 🧬🧬

[sterile umbra]

|| teach me pls lol i wanna know korean language ||

[cyan rivet]

lol

[sterile umbra]

i'm thrilled on waiting for may 17 to come

[ocean arch]

Just 2 days after haerin's bd

She probably can't even look forward to her bd

[cyan delta]

What's on may17?

[cyan rivet]

In fact, in the stock community, which had a strong tendency to criticize Representative Min, there is a public outrage over the fact that HYBE gave about a year and a half break in the process of assigning a new producer to Newjeans after sending out Representative Min. Shareholders protested, "If it's not HYBE's betrayal to force a 'military blank period' level of rest on a girl group that needs to be active consistently without any breaks, as they haven't even debuted for three years and are currently the most valuable label, then what is it?" Although HYBE announced that it will take special care of Newjeans during this period, no one can predict whether this period will be a 'rest period' or a 'storage period', as they have already deployed other girl groups like ILLIT to replace Newjeans.

[acoustic valve]

if we lived in a just world; yes. but our world is far from just...

[opaque torrent]

Shareholders want to overwork them without a break and HYBE wants to shelf them. MHJ/ador is the only one who cares

[old cypress]

how did hybe manage to disappoint everyone lol

[velvet wyvern]

NewJeans will have a hiatus ?

[tired ingot]

depends

[hoary frost]

if hybe wins, yes

[copper jetty]

If MHJ wins then Schedule will proceed.

[sterile umbra]

i feel sad for some news that is incomplete / lack of detailing. i won't read anything in a browser for now, much better if i stay in nj cord as well as in this section of discussion

[ruby garden]

I wanna say mhj cares too much about the girls to leave ther fate on the hands of hybe. I think she will cook up something

They may be building a case for nj contract termination due to negligence idk

[sterile umbra]

i hope that they still rest well despite all the issues occurring

[copper jetty]

https://x.com/MINIEHERRR/status/1790045793660878966?t=Yp_fNp2KSaP2h5CNMszICw&s=33

You’re my favorite flavor 🫧 (@MINIEHERRR) on X

@pannchoa Respect dancers work !!!

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 3:45 PM

Can anybody translate this?? I'm guessing this is something related to choreography since it's by jam republic.

[old cypress]

click on it there's an english ver

[copper jetty]

Thanks

[old cypress]

it has nothing to do with newjeans

[copper jetty]

Sh*t is getting real. Did 000 creative director respond?

[old cypress]

are they gonna post another middle finger? lol

[ocean arch]

Dance off between belyft and ador creative directors

[sterile umbra]

for those who didn't have data/translation option:

*Now it’s time to discuss choreographic appropriation.

Lately, we've seen many dance studios advertising "cover" classes that teach other dancers choreography. It is an unethical business practice that exploits a dancer’s intellectual property without compensation to make money, and it harms the dance community as a teacher or dance studio uses someone else’s choreography (whether in class or in a performance) without permission. ) is wrong to use to obtain benefits.

We're not talking about K-POP cover dance.

K-pop covers are okay. When a dancer choreographs for a K-pop (or J-pop, C-pop, etc.) artist, they are paid accordingly and the rights to the choreography are purchased by the record company. It’s okay for dance studios to teach choreographic covers of famous music videos—this does not infringe on the choreographer’s rights.

This issue is important and we must take a stand

Please do not support studios that make money off of dancers' choreography without compensation. If you see a studio doing this, please send us a private message with supporting evidence and we will publicly accuse them.

It's not easy to make a living as a dancer.

We need to work together to protect artists' intellectual property. Oppose business practices that reward laziness over creativity. We hope that by discussing this issue we can raise awareness within the industry, educate those who may not be aware of why this practice is unethical, and help establish and enforce an important ethical standard.*

[hoary frost]

put them on Street Woman Fighter!

[copper jetty]

Doesn't Belift have choreographers though? What the hell are they doing??

[hoary frost]

Show Me The Money : MHJ vs BSH

[ocean arch]

BSH prolly told them to use nj as a blueprint

[hoary frost]

OOO has 3 performance directors and like 7 choreographers overall

[heady gate]

did you see Illit mv? They were dancing with "Not sync buy as one body style"

They learned that style pretty well

[copper jetty]

And what happens when they've run out of things to use? What then?

[ocean arch]

Tbh I haven't seen anything OOO related contents to this day :3

[copper jetty]

Same. I've listened to the album though only their TT was good.

[hoary frost]

okay lets not OOOfftopic

absolute meltdown we will have on may 17 here

[grizzled fulcrum]

What do we think is the worst and best case scenario here at this point? It feels like the best case will still be pretty sad tbh ugh. My dream is that if the girls, their families, and all those involved creatively are all truly feeling mistreated/copied and have enough evidence, that they can leave and go work with MHJ elsewhere. But I know that's unlikely lol.

[old cypress]

best case scenario is hybe settles with mhj and nothing changes

[vale grove]

💔

I doubt that imo. Too much tension and drama.

[grizzled fulcrum]

That was my original hope but HYBE keeps digging their heels in :/

[acoustic valve]

best case scenario: everything remains as is and ador continues operating as is with hybe agreeing they won't interfere with its operations in anyway beyond collecting the profits.
worst case: NJ stays under Hybe without any of the existing Ador team, probably locked up in the dungeon for years and then maybe having a comeback that's boring af and contains none of the creative charm and sincerity that made NJ popular in the first place

[ocean arch]

We are way past the best case scenario

[heady gate]

With all the social media and News articles attention in the past 2 weeks.
I have been thinking, WHAT IF this is a marketing act of Hybe and Ador.
The loyalty of NJ followers have increased during this incident.

[arctic sky]

thats a huge ass reach lmfao

[old cypress]

yeah, that's cope

[ruby garden]

They fire mhj but lift her no compete clause so she's able to work again. NJ collect enough evidence for injunction to suspend their activies and terminate contract. MHJ finds an angel investor and opens up her own label. NewSkirts debut.

[grizzled fulcrum]

In the best case scenario you mentioned, where's MHJ? Still with Ador? Is there any possibility this could happen...I am losing hope but would love for the upcoming meeting to fail to produce the votes necessary to remove her.

[acoustic valve]

A possible best case scenario: Both the members and MHJ escapes Hybe without paying an impossible payment(or at least a minimal amount) and the whole ador team reunites under a new independent company, and they rebrand as a new group, but since everything that made the original NJ so magical is still together, it will be fine, even if it might take a bit of time

[hoary frost]

too much cope here

[old cypress]

NewTee

[acoustic valve]

yes... mhj would still be with ador, basically hybe backs down due to public pressure or smth... don't think it's likely at all though

[arctic sky]

yall better get some rest lol

[hollow thistle]

thats what i was thinking

[hoary frost]

is NWJNS trademarked

[ruby garden]

new hair new tee NewSkirts do you see

[sterile umbra]

if that's a marketing strategy, then hybe's marketing is marketing || emotional and mental damages are included ||

[acoustic valve]

BlueCaps

[hoary frost]

NewLeJeands

[ruby garden]

NewPantalones

[acoustic valve]

Gaejussi Killers

[grizzled fulcrum]

I'm with you. Not much hope in things being anything similar to what they were pre-audit. For the first weeks I had some hope it would be dropped and all would move on as is.

[hoary frost]

we need better ideas. something timeless as jeans

[acoustic valve]

same... we all underestimated just how vindictive the men that run Hybe are

[sterile umbra]

i guess newjeans will be forever newjeans

[hoary frost]

NewShoes! shoes that will take you everywhere!

[short laurel]

Newdenim

[heady gate]

The only true public pressure is their stock price. Everything else is irrelevant. National pension service of Korea own 8.2% of Hybe.

[hollow thistle]

newjeans is a really good and creative name

[hoary frost]

MiniJin

[sterile umbra]

yes, for me it's so unique

[hoary frost]

public knows MiniJin so thats it!

[sterile umbra]

newjeansah

[hollow thistle]

newears

[acoustic valve]

they should rebrand as NewGods, they can still sing Gods bcuz i'm pretty sure Riot holds the rights to that song n not Hybe

[ruby garden]

NewWhiteTees

[acoustic valve]

Orrr rebrand as OnSeNyu that will make hybe big mad

[sterile umbra]

what's that

[hollow thistle]

newjackets

[ruby garden]

oh come to think of it i knew they are big mad people keep saying this

[grizzled fulcrum]

FreeJeans
NewBlues
??? lol

[acoustic valve]

its the alliteration/short-hand way of "the whole world is newjeans" in korean, it's like a meme for newjeans in KR, used whenever they achieve stuff

[ruby garden]

bsh especially i know he was fuming

[sterile umbra]

Denim Debunked

[acoustic valve]

and what kr fans affectionately call newjeans too

[sterile umbra]

that's ADORable

[acoustic valve]

but like, call the new company gaejussi killers or smth, that's just an iconic insult now

[short laurel]

what does gaejussi means ?

[ocean arch]

Gae ajussi?

[acoustic valve]

it's a portmanteau of "dog" and "ahjussi", ahjussi means like, middle-aged man

[opaque torrent]

New jeans with a space

[acoustic valve]

it's basically like calling them middle-aged b*tches

[arctic sky]

how abt gaesekki

[ocean arch]

Why do I know swear words? 😭

[acoustic valve]

gaesekki is son of a b*tch... it's rude but also very common, unlike gaejussi which is quite rare, which is why it's so iconic. Some koreans were like "wow, I didn't even think there was an insult like this but it makes so much sense"

[hoary frost]

thats how it is trademarked

[arctic sky]

gaesekki literally just means a puppy

[hoary frost]

son of a puppy

[acoustic valve]

i mean.... so does son of a b*tch

[opaque torrent]

https://biz.chosun.com/culture/culture_general/2024/05/13/Z4TOTFBT6RHK5LKCDTP3VQW3G4/

Oh this article is back

[serene cloud]

what's this

[sterile umbra]

New Jeans, NJ, or NJS might suffice

[acoustic valve]

hybe mediaplay

[opaque torrent]

The plagiarism article that was deleted earlier but now it’s back to help HYBE out of a PR grave

[sterile umbra]

how about bringing the || dworld x hybe || article again

crazy internet rumors

[sterile umbra]

my inner self is laughing, since i'm not able to read the korean language as of now

[heady gate]

What if Hybe denied the plagiarism allegation and decided to sue that news media?

[ocean arch]

Bro u coping hard

[twin cypress]

I just had a crazy thought am I reaching: what if the 1 year and seven month hiatus is for that other group to take their place and by the time they comeback they will return with a more mature concept since all the members will be 18+

1 year and 7 months is such a weird time frame to set, even 1 year is too much.

[acoustic valve]

lots of mistranslating going on, it was 1 year 6 months, and that was only a ballpark, iirc PJW's words were "as fast as 1 year 6 months"... so like probably even longer, and that's what he said to the parents... basically he means he's sending them to the dungeon

[spare timber]

https://x.com/aboutmusicyt/status/1789935559420280969?s=46 i’m assuming this is false right? or at least like exaggerated

About Music (@AboutMusicYT) on X

According to Daily Sports, HYBE allegedly planned to give NewJeans a "long vacation" after their concerts in June.

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 8:27 AM

[old cypress]

it's not

[old cypress]

hybe ceo told nj parents that newjeans will take an extended break so hybe can find a grammy awarded producer

[sterile umbra]

why do they need grammy awarded producer?

[twin cypress]

Which is stupid cause whatever mhj crew do goes top of the charts and global

[arctic sky]

Lol

[spare timber]

[acoustic valve]

because that's what these gaejussis that don't have an iota of respect for art think people care about

[sterile umbra]

correct me please, but it feels like an insult to me when hybe ceo said that they will look for a grammy awarded producer while giving njs a "long vacation"

[acoustic valve]

they treat the artists and creatives like a commodity that can be thrown out and replaced with a set price

[heady gate]

This is normal in K-pop environment. Finding a good owner is not easy.

[acoustic valve]

that's quite literally how every bunny is seeing it, we didn't fall in love with NJ because they had "grammy winning producers"...

[heady gate]

"Finding a Grammy producer is a excuse" Our girl will be hiatus for a long time.

[twin cypress]

I’ve set it from the start mhj and the producers are extended members of newjeans

[acoustic valve]

tbh, it's probably just the most impressive on-the-spot reason a man like PJW thought he could say to try and placate the parents on why the girls will be locked up in the hybe dungeon for years. Doubt he's even sincere in looking for a producer for them, because it sure as hell doesn't take 18 months regardless

[grizzled fulcrum]

Random question: what's the best move going forward in terms of purchasing albums for these 2 comebacks? I think I saw this come up earlier but missed the convo.

[acoustic valve]

like u mean as related to this whole drama?

[short laurel]

fun fact: new jeans are not just members. but everyone who worked with them to create it. fandom often c's idols groups as jsut members but fail to recognize the whole team behind them.

[grizzled fulcrum]

Yep. Do we buy to show they still have support? Or do we not buy bc we don't want to give anything to HYBE.

[copper jetty]

Translation please? For some reason auto translate of websites doesn't work in samsung

[short laurel]

buy it. it was planend by mhj so have to make it best possible event.

if u boycott it. hybe will use that as excuse to say " c mhj wasn't good"

[acoustic valve]

Yeah, support to your hearts content. A "boycott" is meaningless in these circumstances and the girls are still taking a cut regardless. This might be the last CB we see in awhile, if not the last...

[serene cloud]

damn a lot of things going on

[grizzled fulcrum]

Thank you. I was leaning toward getting them because I wanted the last run of MHJ produced NewJeans 😦 still can't believe this is real tbh

[sterile umbra]

let's not stop supporting our girls, cheer up guys 😄

[acoustic valve]

A boycott only makes sense when there is a targeted purpose and goal... it rly doesn't serve any purpose in this case since Hybe wants to send NJ to the dungeon anyway, if anything, boycotting will only give them a reason to justify it

[copper jetty]

Help. Hybe wouldn't erase NJ youtube right???

Even phoning right??

[grizzled fulcrum]

Valid point. Tysm

In that case I'll be getting one of all versions lol 💸

[twin cypress]

Don’t boycott them boycott the other hybe groups

[copper jetty]

Goodluck!!!

[opaque torrent]

It’s old and debunked #1231839760759263232 message

[grizzled fulcrum]

I pre ordered the other groups album before I knew anything about it really. And now I feel bad and have hidden the albums lolll

[opaque torrent]

Never touching another HYBE group again and that includes my beloved BTS

After how they treat their female creatives

I told y’all this-HYBE had the evidence to fight for Garam but they let her be abused for the publicity and then sued her for having to terminate her contract early. The announcement of her firing was cold and callous too. “Kim Garam’s exclusive contract has been terminated. We’re sorry for all the trouble.”

[copper jetty]

Literally took out all other hybe groups in my playlist

[opaque torrent]

I suppprted NJ bc I knew they were going to be something special with MHJ at the helm and I am Vietnamese so I was excited for Hanni

[acoustic valve]

ditto, except for the viet part

[copper jetty]

I'm not gonna listen to another hybe group again and I'm never touching another of their group. I hate them so much I'll stream their competition though like Ive and aespa just to spite them.

[opaque torrent]

I would still support NJ if MHJ decided to leave after her 5 years and she got to choose her own replacement to carry out her legacy but knowing all the bullshit… I want everyone out and I’ll be supporting them when they reunite.

[mild stratus]

is it time to watch over this thread again?
i remind yall this thread is for discussion and u guys use it as a hate relief channel

dont make us close it

[copper jetty]

Ok

[opaque torrent]

Wow has no one done a proper translation of the parents letter? In full?

[copper jetty]

I think so why? Were things mistranslated or deleted?

[opaque torrent]

I don’t know I just have obsessive tendencies. I don’t wanna miss any nuance that could be lost by auto translate

Usually I rely on at least two different translations for official statements. I don’t want to be like ARMYs lol

[acoustic valve]

unlike the press conference, or even many media articles; it was a formal letter written by lawyers, so auto-translate is likely pretty accurate

it will have minimal slang and usage of language that an auto-translate will have problems picking up

[copper jetty]

Wait... is the June comeback still happening or what???

[acoustic valve]

probably? Unless something even more drastic happens...

[copper jetty]

[opaque torrent]

Oops not the letter. The phone interview with one mom

[copper jetty]

Cause if they're going on a hiatus after tokyo dome, which would come before and after??

[opaque torrent]

1. How sweet mini
2. JP debut mini
3. Fanmeet concert
4. First full album
5. 2025 world tour

Oh there’s this too https://x.com/newjeanscentral/status/1789885544303854051?s=46

NewJeans Central (@NewJeansCentral) on X

[📢 240513] @NewJeans_ADOR are apart of the line-up for SBS Inkigayo’s K-Wave Concert held on June 2 at the INSPIRE Arena

#NewJeans #뉴진스 #ニュジ

Twitter · May 13, 2024, 5:09 AM

[hoary frost]

they have variety shows and performances coming up throughout may june. it was already planned.

[vale grove]

Newgen 🥸

[urban orbit]

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/hybe-newjeans-ador-erase/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3qEpiIIQcLyyoID2g_aP-2HDo8pRK9jVjSbSzxhqXSxUm55cQAV18ug78_aem_AYeonXT2_cndMdqS3fkNDHaSnBMcT3YUoVTojuBKjY8XeXW-azYf_ATOSKmxX5M4R0vhnRHbVY2ArhDLDp0dZyl6

[shy schooner]

Glad they not in lineup for weverse con

[copper jetty]

Tokkis in twitter are unhinged rn

[hoary frost]

tokkiville in shambles: fanwars from all sides and doom-posting on steroids

[copper jetty]

Whoever made this line up wants to watch the world burn. I wonder how the audience would feel being there.

[hoary frost]

i mean who cares. they probably meet in elevators too

[copper jetty]

True

Well. I'm gonna rest and sleep while listening to hanni's podcast. GN Njcord.

[acoustic valve]

so when u think about it, really not that different from what we've been facing since the start

[hoary frost]

gn

lol true. thankfully we will be focusing on haerin bday soon

[acoustic valve]

the main difference is severity... but if there was ever a fandom that's been conditioned for this, it's us

[rose turret]

The news are not looking great

[acoustic valve]

[hoary frost]

yeah, since debut we have to endure some sort of hate campaigns from kpop stans. difference is that now hybe fandoms are on our ass too. Im like...whatever. its not the end of the world if u have one more enemy.

[rose turret]

Our girls deserve better

[hoary frost]

may 17 will be mess. i hate to see hybe win.

[acoustic valve]

the dismissal is only the start of the real battle...

[hoary frost]

thats what I am scared of the most. what comes after dismissal.

[opaque torrent]

Just stay off those spaces. Even if there’s nothing going on, there will still be drama.

[hoary frost]

my heart hurts for the girls. I doubt they can fully enjoy this comeback in this state but it will be huge comfort to meet fans as well.

[acoustic valve]

whatever happens after the dismissal... it's better than nothing, so I for one am looking forward to the noise. Because silence would just mean that the girls are suffering silently with no path of fighting back against Hybe, at least noise means they still got people on their side struggling for them

[rose turret]

We will love u forever girls

[marble cape]

if mhj is gone will all the staff they've been with since debut mean theyre all gone aswell?

[acoustic valve]

Seems likely... any staff with any sort of influence anyway

[heady gate]

If you were BSH, a found of the big 4 entertainment company. Would you let Ador staffs remain?

[ocean eagle]

Wait are they going on hiatus

I just got home and got a post on my feed about how they were looking for a Grammy winner for a year and a half, complete bs if you ask me tho

[acoustic valve]

yes, because I'm not a petty man that acts out like a toddler when someone doesn't stroke my ego willingly

[marble cape]

ofc i would why would i separate the ppl that help them behind the scenes

[acoustic valve]

If Hybe has their way... yes NJ is likely going to be shelved for possibly years. They seem deadset on removing their entire creative team in any case

[grim shell]

hybe knows they can't handle njs without mhj, their default solution is to throw money at everything

[short laurel]

like this is so disgusting.

[vagrant marlin]

Is may 17th the day they announce if MHJ is or is not leaving?

[tiny peak]

yeah get prepared for a lot more of that, and no one will be left to protect them or stand up for them

[ocean eagle]

What the hell noo ☹️ they should leave with mhj at that point why is hybe doing this

[acoustic valve]

if south korea lets those girls suffer in silence and alone under hybe...

[acoustic valve]

pure vindictiveness, nothing else makes sense

[urban orbit]

if NewJeans ceases to exist. HYBE will become the most hated company on earth!

[upper solstice]

Bunnies Camp send off

[stone grotto]

I wish public opinion weighed more in this

[heady gate]

Find a Grammy Winner producer is an excuse. What if Hybe never found one, the girls will hiatus forever. It is an excuse to placate the parents and public.

[acoustic valve]

welcome to capitalism

[marble cape]

thats the whole point

just an excuse

[leaden igloo]

it's not even capitalism, because nwjns earns so much cash. this is just pettiness

[stone grotto]

It’s a huge lie, what label has ever said “X group will go on hiatus for X time”

[marble cape]

also they said 1 year and 6 months

[acoustic valve]

nah this is very much capitalism, capital ie. investment, ie. who owns the business has all the power, it's the very essence of capitalism

[short laurel]

the minimum. means it can take longer

[stone grotto]

Bsh is just a bully who can’t swallow his pride. They had replacements for mhj and staff ready and waiting and now they wanna take 1.5 years on a Grammy worthy producer?

[heady gate]

What is about May 17th? I don't understand.

[stone grotto]

A hearing to see if mhj will be dismissed I think

[upper solstice]

one step closer to Metro Boomin

[acoustic valve]

there is no producer, and they ain't gonna look for one.... it's a blatant excuse and lie to the parents. But it's telling that he couldn't even lie and make up a shorter time, he still said "at least 1 year 6 months". Hybe's plan for them is the dungeon

[marble cape]

dont mention that name

he had weird tweets

[stone grotto]

And then all of a sudden fromis9 announced a come back

[tiny peak]

BBL BangPD

[short laurel]

on 17th court will decide to accept mhj's injuction. if court agreed. hybe will loss their voting rights at board meeting on 31st

[ocean eagle]

Im using illit as a scapegoat atp idc what anyone says

[leaden igloo]

the company said the girls are prepping for one, but didn't release a date. therefore, it probably doesn't exist

[short laurel]

company got backlash. they had too.

[acoustic valve]

I'm not sure I even want to see an NJ CB under Hybe HQ anyway... they'll just as likely continue to sabotage them and destroy their image as not with some half-baked hybe concepts... which I personally find awful to begin with

[short laurel]

nha they said summer. they will release 1 this year.

[heady gate]

This whole discussion of this incident is not about Hybe vs Ador. It is about BSH vs MHJ.

[leaden igloo]

How can hybe prove that mhj wrote the parent's letter?

[acoustic valve]

BSH controls Hybe, Ador (for now) is fully supportive of MHJ

[short laurel]

it's supposed to be that but hybe is replacing entire staff. so fk them

[acoustic valve]

Hybe vs Ador is pretty accurate

[leaden igloo]

^^ esp if the ador performance directors' instagram posts are true

[hoary frost]

i support independent republic of ADOR

[leaden igloo]

worst case scenario, I think the girls are going to have to learn how to produce their own songs

[stone grotto]

Can you explain the injunction? Is it basically her saying they have no right to vote on this because there’s no evidence of her doing anything wrong?

[stone grotto]

A parent was interviewed by a news outlet and they said themselves that they wrote the email

[leaden igloo]

I thought it was to delay the board meeting

[leaden igloo]

yes but hybe's most recent statement says they "know" mhj wrote it for them. Unless they have email to and from mhj/newjeans parents predating April 3rd or whatever, hybe is bluffing

[hoary frost]

we will find out in 3 days while watching Halmyungsoo

[short laurel]

we'll know on 17th.

[short laurel]

even if mhj wrote it. she was representing the parents. and parents confirmed that's what they wanted to say. so hybe has no grounds here.

[heady gate]

In the mean time, it is 4:45am KST. We will get more drama in the next 12 hours. 😉

[hoary frost]

not religious but i shall pray for peace

[acoustic valve]

I'll copy paste the auto-translate of theqoo post on that "statement":

*He said, "We have secured evidence as to the fact that the e-mail itself was written by Vice President L and Representative Min, not the parents," and added, "We plan to submit this as evidence to investigative and judicial agencies."

However, if you look at the daily sports article where the full text of the email was first posted, it is kindly explained that it was an email sent by summarizing the suggestions made by parents. In the email, I identified myself as Min Hee-jin, the CEO of Adore. I also referred to the email as a transparent document to communicate transparently. It was also revealed that parents were included as CC.

It was transparently revealed in the email that Adore wrote a summary of the parents' suggestions and sent it under Min Hee-jin's name. What kind of evidence is this? lol*

[stone grotto]

The shareholders are prob already in bsh’s pocket. But if I were them, I’d realize how much NJ brings and vote against booting mhj

[tiny peak]

i really hope the rest of HYBE's "evidence" is like this

[old cypress]

BSH alone has the majority

[heady gate]

He own 31% of Hybe.

[old cypress]

yeah but 49% of hybe is public float meaning 49% cannot vote at all and they are not represented by anyone either

[short laurel]

hybe shares value needs to crash for minor sharehodlers to attack hybe. like korea pension funds

[old cypress]

They can pressure BSH but ultimately they cannot vote him out (as things stand now)

[short laurel]

current drop in their shares value is cuz entire industry value is down. so they'll rise back up. so they are nto dropping yet. 😦

[hoary frost]

even if it drops, it will rise again bc of bts members coming back. hybe knows this and cant care less

[short laurel]

they can like have him out of his decision makign position atleast. or remove his rights. minority share protection laws exists after all if it's very much visible that it's bsh that's ruining the company

[vale grove]

I think jin is coming back in like a month so.

[hoary frost]

yeah

[vale grove]

Yeah do with that info what you will I guess

[stone grotto]

So the injunction is to keep the shareholders from exercising their right to vote, which I don’t think is gonna happen

[upper solstice]

we’re rly bout to lose nj for redacted

[stone grotto]

I’d feel better about a hiatus under mhj than hybe

[twin cypress]

I’d rather them pay their contracts and leave with mhj than stay with the opps

[opaque torrent]

May 17 is the injunction hearing. We will find out if the court will approve MHJ’s request to delay the shareholder meeting that will dismiss her. Chances of it getting approved is low.

We still have to wait for the police investigation too. With the way HYBE has been acting, it doesn’t seem like they are confident in their evidence to charge her with breach of trust, but be prepared for heartbreak too.

There is no date for the police to announce their conclusion. It could be next week or it could be next year.

[twin cypress]

It seems like they clearing house of everyone in ador so the girl should just leave with them and make hits at another label

[acoustic valve]

I'm sure the girls and everyone at ador is trying to make that happen... the thing is hybe won't let them leave because they have a 7 year artist contract... they stuck for 7 years unless they pay a massive penalty accounting to hundreds of millions of USD in total.. or they find a way to prove Hybe violated the contract in their management of NJ and have the courts void the contract legally.

[stone grotto]

That’d be nice too but they lose their name and catalogue

[heady gate]

Now, I am wondering when did the girls signed their 7 years contracts? 2022 or 2021?

[acoustic valve]

their name and catalogue is nothing if they can get away free, they young in both age and career, it's only two years of work anyway, they can craft new songs and concepts easily... the penalty is far too much for them or mhj to afford though

[twin cypress]

its less than 20 songs so they will be fine. they can build themselves back up and dominate instead of having to hope hybe treats them as well as illit and lsfm

[stone grotto]

And not to mention be blacklisted from every music and award ahow

[old cypress]

at debut

[acoustic valve]

April 2022

[old cypress]

they have trainee contracts before debut

[stone grotto]

Jeff bezos! Pay the contract fine!

[hoary frost]

mhj should have just taken them out before they signed contract

[acoustic valve]

it was cited in one of the statements today, i think in the parents' letter, or interview, April 2022 was the date their current contracts were signed, so presumably ending in April 2029

[acoustic valve]

hindsight's 20/20...

[stone grotto]

Here’s the thing, can they even vote her out for “breach of trust” if the police haven’t come out with their reports

[hoary frost]

police takes weeks

[acoustic valve]

they can vote her out, but if police dont find anything then this allows MHJ to sue Hybe back for wrongful dismissal... many different ways it can go then, not all of them good, but still better than the current options

[stone grotto]

Of course the police are greased by money bags bang

[twin cypress]

so whats the timeline of what going to happen next? like whats gonna happen on the 17th?

[stone grotto]

17th injunction, 27 & 30th hybe board meeting

[heady gate]

Regardless the outcome on May 17, the girls would be working under a big shadow (Hybe) for 5 years would be a challenge.

[leaden igloo]

24th nwjns shatters records for the most successful cb in gg history

[stone grotto]

I hope it happens so they’ll think twice about separating them and putting them on vacation

[old cypress]

what's on the 27th ?

also, may 31st is the extraordinary general meeting

[outer canopy]

Knetz went from being somewhat civil to just throwing insults at Hybe now 😭😭😭

[twin cypress]

if hybe wins i hope the girls instantly come out and say how they really feel and how they dont want that long vacation being forced on them

they cant punish you more than they already are