NJZ Updates and Discussion

[hoary frost]

i will support nj no matter what public says and how hybe spins this. hearing all this will nj even be treated same if they are left with bang pd alone?

[lethal hound]

has english speaking fan groups ever sent a truck before??

[ionic furnace]

Yes happened with bts

[waxen musk]

waste of money

[torpid tinsel]

so ETA was a diss track LMAOOOO

[lucid yarrow]

come back bts and be new ceo of hybe

[hoary frost]

imo cfans and kfans will send it if they think its necessary

[ionic furnace]

Bro

[acoustic valve]

it's the way the kpop system is so all encompassing, like the hollywood system is not much better, but at least there's a lot more independent agencies and companies in play for a single artist. The artist isn't locked down to hybe like a slave, like christ, what can NJ the girls do by themselves under this situation in hybe? not a single person will be in their corner after this

[lethal hound]

ive seen japanese ones too

[hoary frost]

jiwon...when i catch u

[dry atlas]

4:55 p.m. "What's with 'Project 1945?'" Min is asked. "It wasn't a conversation. It was just a memo by the vice CEO," her lawyer says. "They came to me and cried yesterday," Min cuts in. "They thought that I was going to kill myself after the attorneys' meeting the previous day."

[ionic furnace]

NOT EVEN I CRY FOR 20 MINUTES HOW FUCKED DOES THAT HAVE TO BE FOR HAERIN TO CRY 20 MINUTES HELLO???

[dry atlas]

suicide is really normalized here

damn

[waxen musk]

and we'll have to support them through comeback giving money to support them but also money going to hybe i dunno what the hell to think about that

[somber pumice]

this video hit different now

[ionic furnace]

Nah bro hybe is gonna feel my wrath tonight thats for sure

[lethal hound]

Hollywood artist are locked into how many albums they signed into too. The game from g unit was stuck in a contract with interscope records

Also Lil wayne and Cash money records's beef wass regarding contract as well

[tiny peak]

she's too idealistic for business LOL

[torn topaz]

cant wait to support hybe by watching bubble gum tomorrow

[ripe mango]

Im gonna cry if I see anymore clips of nj and the ditto mv hits different now

[dry atlas]

An owner should have prevented a copycat from arising, not encouraged one. All I can think is that they're trying to kill NewJeans. They're making our thing old. Why would they do this on the same team? It's not even about respecting the creative rights. Why would you copy it? The posters for NewJeans and [ILLIT's label] Belift Lab are exactly the same. Really, it is. The hanbok pictorial never existed before us, then ILLIT just copied it exactly. You can't tell them apart.

[acoustic valve]

yeah i know it's very dark as well, but i mean like at least the artist still has separate agencies and management that would be representing them against the distributor and label. The Kpop system everything is in one, so its easy for them all to collude against the artist

[mild mist]

Adblock it

[dry atlas]

Why did you use our choreography? I asked them, and they didn't answer us. Our choreographers are so pissed.

omg

[tiny peak]

i don't think they are being petty, they are professional who can sense these things

[sudden frigate]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[somber pumice]

I apologize

[waxen musk]

the only thing i've seen that's really egregious is the choreo similarities but that's all i've seen at this point (that i agree with)

[proud flax]

anyone want to the sweater mhj wearing? https://store.united-arrows.co.jp/brand/cgs/item/8000024S0185?wovn=en

[quick wadi]

5:06 p.m. A fan, disguised as a reporter, tries to ask a question.

😭

[valid sierra]

"The advertisers for NewJeans came to us; they were never given to us by HYBE."

[torn topaz]

when someone takes your idea, youre supposed to move on to the next thing

[lethal hound]

LAWYER TO THE RESUCUE

[acoustic valve]

if nj outfits does a post on mhj today I will wail

[orchid field]

How much did hybe pay you?

[sudden frigate]

💀

[dry atlas]

the caption is uhh

pass

[waxen musk]

that deleted tweet doesnt convince me glad it's deleted

[ionic furnace]

Oh ignore the tiktok I just sent it because it has a clip of illits choreography that looks the exact same as the newjeans attention choreography

[sudden frigate]

Which one?

[mild mist]

Never mind that, where can I get the hat?

[torn topaz]

i mean like stay a step ahead

[valid sierra]

I TOLD YALL IT WAS 2 LAWYERS WHICH MEANS A COUNTERATTACK

[gentle sedge]

>5:06 p.m. A fan, disguised as a reporter, tries to ask a question.

does anyone know what this was

[tiny peak]

i totally understand what she's saying, the debut and rollout of illit, everyhing seemed to follow what newjeans did

[outer canopy]

If this wasn't about Newjeans I'd say this is peak entertainment

[somber pumice]

urban outfitters its just a dodgers hat

[ionic furnace]

Hybe is corrupt

[lethal hound]

now hybe looks guilty

[sudden frigate]

Sad thing is LSRFM stans are twisting her words, saying that she hates them and is behind the Garam case. ILLIT stans also, saying that she's behind Youngseo. NewJeans end up taking the backlash 😦

[waxen musk]

unless evidence comes out about that ignore it

[acoustic valve]

the copycat issue is a problem because both companies belong to hybe. Hybe already set a precedent they're trying to sabotage NJ, now they launch a near identical group? One would assume they would even further sabotage ador's autonomy in order to raise the chances of the other succeeding. This is why say, if Starship had copied NJ it wouldn't be a big deal, because starship doesn't have the power to mess with Ador's promotions internally, hybe does.

[lethal hound]

female lawyer named lee sook me

[short laurel]

those are just twitter tiktok drama people. they are not real fans. jsut people who liek to fight over everything so ignore them

[torn topaz]

google la dodgers hat

[cinder verge]

its sad cuz mhj literally said she has nothing againdt lsfm or illit members just hybe management 😢

[tawdry vessel]

those are hybe bots

[ionic furnace]

Yea but they won’t be able to talk their way out of the text messages shown on mhjs phone at the conference about what jiwon said

[lethal hound]

Lawyer says written documents regarding indepence conspiracy was just a memo note by a random emplyee

[lucid yarrow]

lol what she only ceo of ador she doesn't control those groups i wonder who does though

[sudden frigate]

This, copying from other company is fine, when you do it in the same house there's malicious intent

[tiny peak]

she was always vocal about how she hates how competitve kpop can be

[valid sierra]

OUR SOLD OUT QUEEN

[ionic furnace]

Bro did not just post that during world war hybe 💀

[lucid yarrow]

wear that during bunny camp

[torn topaz]

brand ambassador

[half knot]

5:04 p.m. Min is asked if she's resigning. "I don't know," the ADOR CEO says. "Do you want to remain at HYBE?" the question continues. "All I care about is NewJeans," she says. "I have no intention of taking the company. I don't even care if someone else owns the company. All I'm asking is that they leave us alone." Asked if she is in talks to fix her contract with HYBE, Min replies, "We were — then this happened."

5:05 p.m. "What's HYBE's answer to the internal report?" Min is asked. "The audit was their answer. They just raided us."

[acoustic valve]

the mhj look, hottest Summer 2024 trend

[outer canopy]

This is going to be annoying because while in the best case scenario they should stay with Hybe (and ideally MHJ too, but too late now) as it would be worse to separate, I fear Hybe is not going to be kind to them (and not even in terms of creative direction, but bye bye to NJ's vacations and all)

[sudden frigate]

Steal her look

[twin cypress]

Free ador!

[ocean arch]

Let this be anti hybe uniform /j

[steep torrent]

she needs to say something about the leaking info

[half knot]

at this point it's almost impossible to predict what will happen

[sudden frigate]

Saudi Public Investment Fund PLEASE BUY NewJeans. This is like football transfer market

[steep torrent]

thats what everyone on twt is still mad about

[acoustic valve]

A single bright side I can see is that now Hybe will be under a lot of scrutiny in their treatment of NJ. It won't be as easy for them to get away with intentionally sabotaging them

[ionic furnace]

Yea but then hybe would face major backlash if found to be treating newjeans entirely different from other groups more so AFTER this conference

[brazen ice]

well have nj hallal version🙏🏼

[lethal hound]

upwards of 100 million $ USD investment for penalties

[sudden frigate]

We already saw that at Saudi KCon

[torn topaz]

yea better like this comeback guys. newjeans getting shelved after

[tiny peak]

they'll just mediaplay some more, they don't seem to care

[brazen ice]

oh yee forgot about that lmao

[gentle sedge]

wasn't there a singaporean fund? temasek holdings 🤞

[ionic furnace]

I’m praying on hybe managements downfall

[dry atlas]

oh done

[outer canopy]

They'd probably do it subtly enough that only fans notice it. And I don't think companies care that much about fans calling out mistreatment...

[sudden frigate]

Long pants long sleeves

[tawdry vessel]

blacklisting only works if you're a nugu group

[mild stratus]

its actually over

[dry atlas]

tim lock the chat

[torn topaz]

no applause?

[dry atlas]

got my nerd ready

[somber pumice]

goodbye ☹️

[tiny peak]

bet she needs to use the restroom so bad

[steep torrent]

damn she didnt say anything about the leaking, i feel like everyone will mention that

[quick wadi]

i been wanting to lock this chat since day one

[fast cobalt]

Bye

[jade cypress]

BYE WENTON

[dry atlas]

haha

[somber pumice]

hello

[dry atlas]

open back

[proud flax]

what the

[dry atlas]

pls keep shit here

[quick wadi]

but i didnt do anything

[ionic furnace]

What happened

[cinder verge]

ermm

[lucid yarrow]

didnt end yet?

[quick wadi]

it is over

[sudden frigate]

GIC

[jade cypress]

HI WENTON

[ocean arch]

She don't know how to end just like dani

[white arch]

im tired

[valid sierra]

not a single bumble gum mention.

[fast cobalt]

Huh

[ionic furnace]

Oh shes running it back?

[somber pumice]

who is this random

[lethal hound]

she back

[sudden frigate]

LMOA it's back

[waxen musk]

i dont even know what to do with myself now

[lucid yarrow]

come on reporter ask her about leaks so haters will go away

[white arch]

isnt the replay?

[cinder verge]

hi wenton

[shy schooner]

says live

[somber pumice]

hello clorox

[ionic furnace]

Shes getting flashbanged that cap aint saving her

[waxen musk]

yes it's a replay

[orchid field]

im gonna treat this as a win and relax for today

[fast cobalt]

O replay

[acoustic valve]

all the fans crying about mistreatment must feel like Galileo watching the Catholic Church admit that stars are a real thing rn

[white arch]

Its r play chat

[lucid yarrow]

ok nvm then

[lethal hound]

sadly theres no winning route for her....

[cinder verge]

so is it done? i can sleep?

[tawdry vessel]

i need a drink 🍸

[orchid field]

we take it day by day

[ionic furnace]

if newjeans change because of this situation

[nimble stream]

Mr A what a funny person

[lethal hound]

touche

[hoary frost]

lets go

[mild stratus]

Thread will be opened again if HYBE does a press conference.

[quick wadi]

Phew

[dry atlas]

i think the live updates translator left..

but she's answering questions

[gentle sedge]

we are back

[dry atlas]

translate it for us @lethal hound

[neon kelp]

I'm gonna take break from this thread

[reef dawn]

Good idea

[quick wadi]

aw man it’s back

[lethal hound]

😦can i paraphrase???

[ocean arch]

Sure

[opal zodiac]

its a replay

[quick wadi]

yeah 👍 we all just want to know what’s being said

[lethal hound]

i missed the question but after this one

[opal zodiac]

like 99% sure its a replay, she just said "im a worker. you guys are office workers too right??" which i remember hearing earlier

[dry atlas]

oh really

[lethal hound]

hmmm i missed the beginning so i ono

[quick wadi]

why dont we just look at the water

[lethal hound]

ohhhhhh

[south vale]

can someone tell the situation rn?

[cyan rivet]

The best scenario is that NJ remains in Hybe and MHJ leaves

[gleaming scarab]

yeah its a replay

[lethal hound]

what if she finished the first one?

[arctic sky]

Hows that the best lmao

[tawdry vessel]

no

[opal zodiac]

100% replay i just rewinded back

[lethal hound]

it does look like shes starting her explanation again so maybe replay??

[short laurel]

best scenario is someone in hybe hgiher ups gets yoinked and everything goes back to how it was.

[tawdry vessel]

yes

[lethal hound]

its replay

[tight pike]

what did the fan disguised as a reporter ask?

[cyan rivet]

Too late... MHJ is losing good image and trust in Korea.

[brazen ice]

im actually curious about this as well lmao

[neon kelp]

does that matter in international she is not

[short laurel]

any kpop company and it's publically known workers nvr had any good image in korea. we hear some shits about everyone in kpop higherups all the time.

no one except comapny worshiper stans like coorperate

[cyan rivet]

So nj has to follow mhj? Right now, MHJ could go to jail

[lethal hound]

i dont think she committed a crime did she?

[cyan rivet]

Hybe has filed a complaint and they are more likely to win

[lethal hound]

corporate conspiracy is not a felony

[acoustic valve]

my initial assessment:
Everything will go according to Hybe's plans and MHJ will be pushed out. Mentioning NJ and how they feel sm might not have been the smartest thing to do... but if the girls and their families really do feel the way MHJ is portraying, I'm sure they want their side of the story to be heardd by the public too, rather than just watching Hybe create their one-sided story whilst they suffer silently in the corner knowing they can't do or say anything like they have for 2 years now and will likely continue having to.
In that light, even if it wasn't wise, I'm glad MHJ got to speak up about the girls' feelings, it was the only way for their story to be heard.

[quick wadi]

Strawberry jam can you write my next essay ?

[short laurel]

problem with this is. if girls try to go agaisnt hybe. there have been cases where artist got banned for participating in idol activities be4 in the industry. so there's that too.

[cyan rivet]

I mean, jail was just a metaphor. What I wanted to say was that she could no longer work on this field

[tawdry vessel]

only if you're a nugu group, newjeans are big in korea and overseas

[gaunt flame]

I love taroboba and strawberryjam

[acoustic valve]

yeah, we all know the girls can't speak up for themselves. Assuming they still want to have their story be heard; this was likely the only scenario, and as much damage as it causes them, it's nothing compared to if they did it personally

[ruby garden]

that was the most insane press conference i've ever seen

[short laurel]

nj can leave korea and go full international.

[half knot]

as a followup, not that it should happen, but a phoning live where the girls go ballistic would be a new chapter in kpop

[eager hamlet]

wait so haerin did actually cry

[tiny peak]

i thought it made the girls seem loyal, sweet and kind ... but if korea worships companies that much they can f themselves

[acoustic valve]

of course, there's always a possibility MHJ is very malisciously using them and the girls don't feel that way at all. But I get a feeling we'll find out soon if that's the case, once MHJ is officially ripped from hybe and they have no obligation to protect her image

[cyan rivet]

Me too, it's more shocking than a political story

[ruby garden]

i think it had like 400k live concurrent viewers from all of the channels broadcasting

[waxen musk]

wait it's still going i left lol

[half knot]

at least yeah

[cyan rivet]

There is also a theory that live comments were hired by Hybe

[ruby garden]

actually i saw a lot of support for mhj

[eager hamlet]

same

[short laurel]

what i like to think is evil is in both sides. this case ofc it's more to hybe cus soo much in just 2 days seems excessive very much fell like media play by hybe.

[tiny peak]

i was surprised!

[lethal hound]

theory made up now?

[dry atlas]

https://fxtwitter.com/newjeansnews_/status/1783409443860058468

mistrans? it was hyein who cried 20 mins

i also heard hyein but it wasnt in the live update

[frosty echo]

idk whose side to side with...

[ruby garden]

i think she managed to flip the sentiment. now we wait for hybe's response

[half knot]

this was the first real salvo from ador's side, hybe had been relentless for 72 hours

[mild mist]

Surprised she didn't end the conference with "Yes, I am Iron man"

[half knot]

I think despite how insane and unhinged (in the best way) this surreal press conference was, she and the lawyers still held back quite a bit, for their next attack.

[blissful mango]

hybe making their ppt slides now

[acoustic valve]

i just know we getting NYT, Rolling Stone, Variety, etc. articles on this

[buoyant hamlet]

Hybe has 24 hours to respond or LSF must sing acapella

[ruby garden]

yeah this was huge no way international news don't pick it up

[tiny peak]

she's so bad at PR but I love it, she shared conversations that made her look bad too

[opal zodiac]

yeah its hyein

[half knot]

this one's for the history books for sure

[ruby garden]

bunnies asked for promo and we got this lol

[cyan rivet]

I'm so sad

[tiny peak]

her lawyers continually dying inside

[acoustic valve]

yeah, for better or worse, she is NOT tactful at all, but I totally respect and love that, you can tell no PR person drafted this response

[lethal hound]

look look kakao again LOL

[half knot]

newjeans pak in the first six hours let's go!

[hoary frost]

is hybe holding pres con too

[half knot]

they're gonna need a minute to digest this press con lol

[white arch]

Chat is Open, that means hybe is going to talk?

[somber pumice]

no

[white arch]

ok

[somber pumice]

not yet

[quick wadi]

primarily open so it doesn’t spill into other chats

[lethal hound]

i got to say that live broadcast to replay transition was smoooooooth as heck

[outer canopy]

is it still going?

[blissful mango]

no

[lethal hound]

its replay but it fooled me in the beginning

[neon kelp]

fr

[nimble stream]

Warner bros acquire njs please

[lethal hound]

have yall seen Kris Wu?

[neon kelp]

no

[lethal hound]

yeah he tried already but look where hes at

[orchid field]

jail

[neon kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/newjeans-hanni-kpop-hanni-pham-new-jeans-gif-1023985180891257751

[steep torrent]

she didnt have to say this...
https://x.com/taeternityou/status/1783401045428961316

al (@taeternityou) on X

“…. I saw their (source music) trainees and sorry to say this but among source music trainees Minji was the only one I chose/recruit because the other remaining trainees was either not skilled, too old or didn’t match with my principles.. and I think Minji was so young and-

Twitter · Apr 25, 2024, 7:41 AM

[neon kelp]

hybe goes to jail

[steep torrent]

anyone speak korean?

[hoary frost]

💀

[lethal hound]

maybe

[orchid field]

this thread is not passing the vibe check

[steep torrent]

thats probably what she said but can anyone translate

[neon kelp]

did u read the comments below?

[fast cobalt]

Wow what

[silver salmon]

Yeah the live translation was so different from that, it was so vague too

[lethal hound]

Shes talking about Minji and how she chose minji herself

[tiny peak]

in korean it's kinda a normal thing to say that, like when you talk about your kids

[steep torrent]

so she didnt mention the others age and stuff?

[tiny peak]

pretty sure she did

[somber pumice]

Hello .

Is the hive

We would like to inform you about the legal response to protect the infringement of the rights and interests of New Jeans.

New Jeans will continue various activities such as releasing a new song music video scheduled for the 27th and releasing a double single in May and June. We will do our best to support New Jeans' comeback activities so that they are not interfered with.

Recently, many malicious posts have been detected that violate the rights and interests of artists and impede their reputation, such as defamation of artists, baseless malicious slander, and ridicule and demeaning. Our company has been making a constant legal response to New Jeans, but we decided that the malicious behavior towards the members has reached a serious level, so we decided to appoint an additional law firm to protect the rights and interests of artists.

Hive will take all possible legal action by collecting everything that violates the rights and interests of the artist to protect New Jeans. We would like to inform you that we will respond strongly by applying the principle of zero tolerance without consent and agreement, the same as our existing legal response.

In addition, we will support both physical and psychological for the artist's psychological healing and emotional stability. I earnestly ask you to stop indiscriminate attacks and demeants against artists.

Thank you .

[lethal hound]

so she did but she was making a point that source didnt have trainees she liked other than minji. and she listed why she didnt like other trainees

[cyan rivet]

Anyone who slanders and mocks NJ must go to jail

[fast cobalt]

Ril

[lethal hound]

i didnt realize minji was from source originally

[steep torrent]

so they just translated it weird on purpose

[tiny peak]

age is just part of the business, who knows what her timeline was for debuting the gorup

[lethal hound]

So Korean and Japanese grammar gets in the way of translation into english

[lethal hound]

age part was to make a point that other trainees were too young or too old

[neon kelp]

so hybe did something right finally

[short laurel]

hard to translate korean to english while keepign the point intact. that twitter post feels translated like that on purpose i think ?

[tiny peak]

yeah definitely, it didn't seem "weird" at all

[short laurel]

yea i avoid twitter translation for drama's like these.

[steep torrent]

twt tokkis are calling her weird, hopefully someone can clarify

[lethal hound]

wait but remember the translation iin that post is incomplete. translation stops half way

[sudden frigate]

It's still going on wow

[tiny peak]

part of her tone is someone doting on their kid (for better or for worse)

[short laurel]

there's rest in the reply after that.

[lethal hound]

its replay

[lethal hound]

this is all i see

[short laurel]

idk korean so it's probably u here who get what her exact point she wanted to make. and i'll trust u for that. but nvr twitter. they most of the times translate in ways which is easy to misinterpretate

[lethal hound]

this seems somewhat right. whats the issue again?

[short laurel]

the replies calling her p word

[tiny peak]

people interpreting it in weird ways

[sudden frigate]

Hello, it's HYBE

[lethal hound]

twitter uses auto translation. for grammar you need a bilingual person for complete translation

[short laurel]

that's english translated by the user who posted

[steep torrent]

idk people are focused on the part where she says prettier way more than now

[dry atlas]

wow what a weirdo for having standards in the girl group she's creating
standards that are common across the industry

[lethal hound]

oh nvm then LOL

[tiny peak]

the translation is mostly correct, but it loses a lot of context and tone

[mild mist]

Are people forgetting that the literal point of idols is to be professionally good-looking?

[waxen musk]

People are saying she prefers how a younger Minji looks implying she likes younger looks in general (that plus everything she's been accused of during debut era).

[lethal hound]

ohhh so she was making a point on why she chose minji at that time. it was a side mention she was even more beautiful before

[tiny peak]

yeah I think koreans just way that about kids LOL

[short laurel]

dude in these past 2 days people accused her of everything in kpop. i

[lethal hound]

LOL yeah its halfway bragging about their daughter

[dry atlas]

you can hear it as well in family reunions, "you were cuter when you were younger"

[steep torrent]

they are gonnna use this to frame her as a weirdo even more now unfortunately

[dry atlas]

people just making it weird

[waxen musk]

I don't know I just want to know what Koreans think about that very small part of this marathon.

[tiny peak]

she said lots of good things about the girls, i hope they focus on that

[vapid bronze]

They taking it out of context, smh

[steep torrent]

also that fandom is mad at the age mentioning part too

[acoustic valve]

it's like a common korean phrase; which taken outside of all cultural context may sound weird... but to interpret it as such is purely bad faith

[lethal hound]

no the age part was to explain why she didnt like the other trainees at source

[steep torrent]

she mentioned no other names right?

[tiny peak]

like how is "that idol" even a trainee?

[waxen musk]

Anyway this Minji stuff is such a focus for everyone right now it's driving me insane.

[lethal hound]

Yeah no other names

[lethal hound]

i dont think that clip was that important though. its just talking about source and mention of how minji was found by her at source

[steep torrent]

was gonna send a link but nvm, they are acting like she literally said a certain someone is too old

[acoustic valve]

it's what online people do, find the one piece of information that when taken outside of context reinforces their existing worldview and then they push it until it's the only thing people talk about. god i hate it

[short laurel]

that's just out of context misinformation spreading. there's goign to be more so ignore them

[dry atlas]

hyein* cried for 20 mins

mistrans

[waxen musk]

It also mentions "quiet like a cat".

[arctic sky]

my twt fyp page now filled with aespa and lsrf lmfao

[steep torrent]

she just chose the most skilled and they are mad, and she was right tho cause look what happened at that event..

[dry atlas]

yeah that's haerin

[hoary frost]

i understand mhj & am on her side, sadly hybe is too influential & has connections everywhere, so they'll do anything including media play to frame her & keep their name clean... its a corrupted industry & she can't do much on her own against them

[lethal hound]

guys guys think about this: Minji could of been Lesserafim

[waxen musk]

Yeah they're talking about Haerin and then they say she called for 20 mins but you're saying it's wrong and Hyein called for 20 minutes. I'm confused, it can't be Hyein if they're talking about her being quiet like a cat.

[tiny peak]

never seen a more perfect group of members than newjeans, yeah she was very particular about it

[dry atlas]

what the

haerin couldnt find word so she called her

hyein called her and cried for 20 mins

tikki confirmed this too

[waxen musk]

ok

[tiny peak]

i think she basically admitted that too, it was sad

[dry atlas]

it was gg anyway for her

[dry atlas]

might as well sav anything she wanted to say

[fast cobalt]

Yea

[steep torrent]

the leaking stuff was the most contraversial part and she didnt say nothing about that

[waxen musk]

Well I shouldn't have gone on reddit. Not seen anyone in there sympathising on MHJ side other than people saying that Korean and Japanese people are generally sympathising with her.

[tiny peak]

it it kpop reddit? lol that place is a joke

[hoary frost]

i feel so bad for her & newjeans... hybe was jealous of their success & wanted to monopoly the industry

[cobalt flicker]

This is posted by HYBE, not ADOR. Hybe still manages the weverse account

[acoustic valve]

yeah the press conference wasn't really relevant in terms of defending herself legally. It was just a tell-all so that the world knows her side of the story. Most of the points made won't really matter during hybe's court case against her. It makes sense, this is possibly her one and only chance to speak out to so many people and tell her, ador's and the girls' side of the story

[fast cobalt]

Honestly HYBE is already a whole monopoly in the kpop industry in my opi

[dry atlas]

yeah it used to say this is ador AND it was posted in diff languages

[orchid field]

its very easy for the greedy to get even more greedy

[dry atlas]

already you see the laziness

[hoary frost]

but they did feel threatened by ador/newjeans that they are doing smth this dirty

[quick wadi]

ADOR would also make a phoning announcement

[lethal terrace]

I wish someone with cultural and Korean language abilities would translate that press conference

[drifting scaffold]

Im abit confused, was Source Music bought by HYBE for mhj to lead her own girl group using its trainees?

[waxen musk]

There's a whole English translation posted.

[tiny peak]

i wonder why they're getting so much malicious activities lately ...

[lethal hound]

she talked WAAY too much for that

[fast cobalt]

In this industry it only takes a small moment for a big company to die down, do be like that

[short laurel]

that small moment have to be abotu something big. or media play will protect them

[dry atlas]

HYBE statement https://www.newsen.com/news_view.php?uid=202404251821502410

[lethal hound]

it was straight up rapping for 2 hours

[lethal terrace]

Oh thank you! I just popped back in to the most recent messages

[orchid field]

lemme guess, we will take legal action kek

[fast cobalt]

Ofc

[waxen musk]

lol everyone saying everyone is lying. (no surprise ofc just literally that's it "she's lying")

[dry atlas]

HYBE statement https://www.newsen.com/news_view.php?uid=202404251821502410

[steep torrent]

We can refute all claims with evidence, but we have decided not to discuss them one by one as we have decided that it is not worth responding to. lol

[orchid field]

one side took hours to speak their mind

[waxen musk]

Hybe: "stop lying" is the gist of that

[fast cobalt]

"we respectfully request that CEO Min stop lying"
❓❓❓

[hoary frost]

kakaotalk is all there. what is the lie. yes its her pov which is biased but we can see hybe sentiments all along

what does this mean?

[tiny peak]

"distorted interpretation mechanism" is crazy because what has HYBE been doing nonstop the past few days

[valid sierra]

if this isnt powertrip idk what is

[orchid field]

if mhj can pull out reciepts why cant hybe

[glad wigeon]

When an introvert burst into tears, it means this is a serious problem

[fast cobalt]

Fr

[lethal hound]

big letters say "i will supoport you really"

[waxen musk]

Only thing I agree on is yeah don't bring members or parents into it. But I wouldn't say it "damages their value" other than to imply they support MHJ.

[dry atlas]

just saw that, sm choreographer saying they support her

[rain spade]

As an introvert, i agree

[nimble stream]

Well youre just moody

[short laurel]

if sm people gets involved even a little. another fandom drama will start at the scale of sm shares acquisition drama.

[glad wigeon]

NJ have so many big brand deals,It would be very difficult if they wanted to terminate the contract

[valid sierra]

*x https://twitter.com/MarkJP1008/status/1783391905084289311
then hyein said fuck it, just no promotion at all and boom, history changed

Mark (@MarkJP1008) on X

"Park Ji-won told me that I shouldn't say that NewJeans is a completely new team, because they wanted to confuse people. They never let me promote NewJeans as the first girl group from Min Hee-jin because they intentionally wanted to confuse people. That was all Bang doing."

Twitter · Apr 25, 2024, 7:05 AM

[harsh dove]

:warning: Tweet with id 1783391905084289311 does not contain any media!

[hoary frost]

i read articles mentioning that estimated 210 billion won would be contract termination cost not including damages caused due to brand deals

[drowsy crypt]

I feel very offended between the two of them 😔

[steep torrent]

seems like kr and jp are on her side but not intl fans, but whos opinion really matters more?

[glad wigeon]

I think the wise decision for NJ is to let MHJ go

[mild mist]

The court of law I guess

[lethal hound]

According to the Fair Trade Commission's standard exclusive contract, the penalty is calculated as the average monthly sales for the previous two years as of the time of contract termination multiplied by the number of months remaining in the contract.

[short laurel]

standard contract is 7 years right ?

[lethal hound]

6 from what i heard before i could be wrong though

[short laurel]

oohk

[lethal hound]

thats why its called the 6 year curse

[waxen musk]

I thought it was 7, too, tbh.

[nimble stream]

? Its called 7 year curse

[lethal hound]

hmmm its 7 then i ono

[torpid tinsel]

they should just remove bang pd and mhj from hybe and let them live happily ever after

[lethal hound]

so lets look at blackpink's contract they debuted 2016. resigned last year right?

[short laurel]

korea has FTC

[blissful mango]

renewed last year

[lethal hound]

7 year it is

[waxen musk]

I can't get excited about this comeback any more after being told the girls are crying. I feel like they'll just be suffering through the whole comeback. But I want to support the MV and I want to go to Bunnies Camp. What am I supposed to do?

[quick wadi]

Support newjeans

[waxen musk]

I feel like they'll be suffering regardless of all current likely outcomes. Ofc yeah I'm supporting them.

[heady swallow]

I feel the same way 😭 this is suppose to be the time where we’re all starting to get excited for the CB but now this is all that’s being talked about.

[grand sapphire]

A part of me wishes maybe they could push back the comeback for the sake of there mental health but at the same time i want to support it as well.

[mild mist]

Send them a letter?

[tiny peak]

HYBEs response seems so condescending, it feels like BangPD had some input

[quick wadi]

Damage is done

[waxen musk]

I assume Bunnies Camp is gonna be more emotional than I was expecting. I hope I get tickets it feels even more important now.

[lethal hound]

if anyone is thinking of independence...... over 100-300 million$ USD only on penalties

[waxen musk]

I don't know how much money they have in the first place.

[eager hamlet]

i do

[covert creek]

This press conference is crazy lol

[dry atlas]

https://fxtwitter.com/hurtsaz/status/1783427948185620803

wait misinfo

that's new private account

[dry atlas]

i got baited

[valid sierra]

https://fxtwitter.com/bomkue/status/1783405867079184387
i dont know korean, but i think i understood those words?

[lethal hound]

LOLOLOL

[drowsy crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-sad-lonely-alone-gif-5247861

[hoary frost]

Did she actually say Minji was prettier before? Are people mistranslating?

[cyan rivet]

NO

[steep torrent]

if they are going to continue with their activities we should make this their biggest comeback to show how much we support them. tell your friends, cousins, aunts and uncles..

[cyan rivet]

Is it related to this situation?

[lethal hound]

na she was trying to make a point why she chose minji when she was traineee at source

[dry atlas]

no sorry mr mod...

[hoary frost]

By saying she was prettier before?

[lethal hound]

like.. it more like "she was even prettier before" halfway bragging about her daughter type of way

[short laurel]

it's taken out of context. and people in kroea talk like that or something somtehing

[hoary frost]

mmmm ok

[short laurel]

yea that.

[tiny mantle]

Dang.. JP bunnies camp will be priceless

[lethal terrace]

Maybe it’s closer to “she was pretty even back then” ? FYI I don’t speak Korean but that’s what makes sense in my brain

[steep torrent]

she also said minji was more skilled too but they just want to focus on the age and beauty part

[lethal hound]

if it were to be translated in terms of intent of what she is trying to say but word by word it sounds weird translated english

[short laurel]

it was more like she was most qualified in what she was looking for for her group.

[hoary frost]

what I wanna focus on is if she actually said “she was prettier before than now” like people are translating on Twitter. If it’s a Korean thing to say I wanna know more about it

[lethal hound]

wait guys is this really an issue?

[dry atlas]

yeah lol

cmon

bigger picture

[hoary frost]

online accounts are taking that quote and using it a lot so yea

[lethal hound]

that was like a side mention bragging her daughter was even prettier

[steep torrent]

someone already got a hit twt about it

[short laurel]

it becomes an issue cuz intl refuse to understand other culture n judge hard

[lethal hound]

smh

[short laurel]

thats why proper pr team is important for press

[lethal hound]

bragging that minji was prettier even before when she was a trainnee can be taken as an offense...?

[hoary frost]

if more than now as she aged more, yes

[lethal hound]

yeah she didnt mean that

[shy schooner]

They already saying she a p

[hoary frost]

Translated anyway. Not saying that was the intent but people are acting like it was

[acoustic valve]

the same way saying someone is "cute as a button" doesn't mean you literally want to sew them onto your jacket or smth. It's a common expression in korean

[steep torrent]

feel like she just couldve said she chose minji and thats it

[lethal terrace]

I think that’s because some might be trying to call out the potential problems of assigning value to beauty or something but honestly that’s a general problem in media. K-pop just falls under that. Also like maybe “pretty” in Korean might not be the exact word as in English. Getting the feel for the message is more important to me.

[short laurel]

she already had p tagged on her cuz of past dramas so people were gonna bring that up even if she didn't say anything

[lethal hound]

is this on reddit or something? if twitter where?

[short laurel]

twitter

[steep torrent]

u want me to dm u the twt

[unreal stream]

So much misinformation on Twitter

[shy schooner]

Reddit is worse

[lethal hound]

sure? why not post it?

[drowsy crypt]

True

[short laurel]

the post that u couldn't read replies of had that

[acoustic valve]

reddit is always worse unless you already agree with the opinions

[steep torrent]

theres no changing their minds now..

[arctic sky]

haters gonna hate

[lethal terrace]

This is the only thread I have the heart to check. The Twitter updates here are enough

[lethal hound]

ohh i dont do twitter i don thave an account

[short laurel]

sakura mention out of no where

[arctic sky]

this is the only level minded place rn

[dry atlas]

Reminder to discuss about the AUDIT and PRESS CON only.
Don't attack MHJ or HYBE about unrelated stuff to the audit.
Nothing is a fact yet.
You will be timed out for 1 day/banned without warning otherwise.

[rain spade]

i dont even wanna read that stuff

[timber shell]

same

[south vale]

can everything end in peace it going too far away

[lethal hound]

Okay i read. he/she is talking about sakura not minji

[dry atlas]

drop this topic

i've started handing out timeouts

she talked about so much other stuff

[acoustic valve]

I just hope the true bunnies will support NJ no matter what after this, whether that means they publicly pick a side or not, whether that means they stay in hybe or not. I know I will, because I'm a fan of NJ, not mhj or Hybe(even if I have my personal feelings regarding the matter)

[lethal hound]

i didnt hear the sakura part but i remember MHJ was complaining that hybe didnt mention sakura/chaewon signing to her and she was essentially butthurt she was an outsider to hybe

[short laurel]

i'll tell u in dm what ppl mean

[shy compass]

[cyan rivet]

I love mhj. I think I've forgotten mhj=nj for the past few hours

[dire bison]

Any major news?

[somber phoenix]

Newjeans send important notice in weverse..

[cyan rivet]

"Anyone who bothers nj can't avoid death" -weverse-

[somber phoenix]

wdym death?

[timber shell]

legal actions ig

[somber phoenix]

but the ADOR is not sending this one statement in phoning... I think HYBE C.O was sending that notice

[hoary frost]

What do you think are the main bits of misinformation

[covert creek]

Reddit has always been full of hybe glazers, don’t rely on them for an unbiased reaction xd

[hoary frost]

Just let people ask questions. It’s messy and people wanna know and everyone knows a different amount.

[lethal hound]

that whole age discussion talking about minji but somehow got connected to sakura

[drowsy crypt]

Guys, I will keep support NewJeans but I still have respect for music groups under BigHit like bts. I don't care if haters hate each other, because I want focus on their concept, their music, their visual, Entertainment and others.
And I'm sorry about that.

[lethal hound]

that is great to hear..?

[somber phoenix]

indeed

[nimble stream]

Thanks for letting us know

[hoary frost]

very powerful statement. I am changed

[mild mist]

Support your groups, just remember that there are no good record labels

[hoary frost]

they’re out there but they’re rare and usually not dealing in the millions and billions, more indie sized

[drowsy crypt]

What if I can leaving the K-Pop industries While the audit process is still ongoing ?

[acoustic valve]

a record label is good to me if the people working for them are happy and content, if the artists are happy I've no big issue. But yes, a baseline assumption of any company being evil is sensible and you'll be proven correct more often than not

[hoary frost]

I’d say just relax a little

[drowsy crypt]

Ok, I agreed

[hoary frost]

😀

[drowsy crypt]

Well I hope several groups will give their best in the future

[arctic sky]

Ok

[lethal hound]

imagine illit members running into NewJeans in the hybe building

[arctic sky]

https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1783434617665597883

Kpop Charts (@kchartsmaster) on X

HYBE comments on Min Heejin’s press conference:

— “Not worth responding to… Please return your information assets and respond to the audit immediately.”

https://t.co/x9svWQzx2x

Twitter · Apr 25, 2024, 9:55 AM

[short laurel]

they'll happily meet. that's it

[neon kelp]

I'm the only one who is supporting newjeans in my family

[lethal hound]

yeah....

[grand sapphire]

My hope is that the idols that MHJ mentioned in this whole thing don't hold it against the girls

[orchid field]

they are not enemies

[lethal hound]

i know but it cant be ackward right?

[valid sierra]

predicted the replies. just damn

[arctic sky]

fore sure

[grand sapphire]

There might be some tension but i hope they could talk it out in time.

[lethal hound]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-shrug-shrugging-oh-well-smiling-gif-27275540

not ackward at all

[neon kelp]

Awkward*

[arctic sky]

https://tenor.com/view/whet-what-ew-can-you-not-stop-gif-17941942377869719800

[lethal hound]

kinda like me gossiping about a friend but it was on the news

[waxen musk]

I see people asking for a delay on their comeback because it's potentially too much for the girls. What are they supposed to do if they delay everything, just sit on their hands and worry every day about the unknown?

Instead I think they should go ahead and with that support from Bunnies will come, more than ever hopefully. They'll still be worrying every day regardless.

[orchid field]

yeah we can all just jam to sweet like bubble gum instead

[neon kelp]

Yep

That song gonna be in repeat for days

[acoustic valve]

I know people have preferences and their own logic, but I wish everyone would just be more open-minded and be ready to accept whatever the girls decide. If they want to delay, so be it. If they want to continue, also fantastic. The important thing is that we make sure they're not being forced one way or the other imo

[neon kelp]

True

[lethal hound]

but its a logistics issue

Remember firing MHJ is also firing all her people in Ador.. which i am assuming like 70-80-% of Ador at least?

[neon kelp]

Okay let's all stop thinking about the worst outcome

Get positive ASAP

[waxen musk]

I think thinking that way lets me deal with how I feel about certain potential outcomes and prepare myself to still support them in less than ideal situations. I can't help not overthink everything in this way.

[neon kelp]

I'm not worried cause I believe everything will be okay

[acoustic valve]

best outcome is if Hybe decides this is all too much and comes to a deal where Ador can gain autonomy and independence. They can sort out a deal where it makes financial sense for Hybe; they continue taking in a set amount of Ador's profits for X years or whatever. Just set the girls free please

[lethal hound]

I believe Saudi fund will pull a miracle and pay the penalties

[waxen musk]

It would be lovely if everything was just forgotten about and things continued as they did before. But the bridge has been burnt.

[neon kelp]

I say that the mhj opens different company and take newjeans with her

[lethal hound]

did yall see that MHJ kakao texts? that was a rant.. no coming back from that

[old cypress]

Or they can just file an injunction to terminate their contracts without paying any penalty fee. If they have a valid reason that is

[acoustic valve]

tbh, after listening to today's stories and if they are true. Remaining as it is isn't great either. If the girls and their parents' stories are presented clearly; they weren't very happy either to have their plans constantly sabotaged by higher-ups

I know the feeling of working at a job where you feel like you're constantly in direct opposition against the leadership, it's not a very healthy environment

[lethal hound]

I agree paying the penalties as debt and paying back with interest in the future is the best scenario

[old cypress]

wait. why is the slow mode 30sec?

[neon kelp]

Guys I'm taking the break from this thread
Yall have a great day

[ocean arch]

Cause people were yapping too much during the conference

[waxen musk]

Obviously the girls themselves will see if the positives of staying in K-pop outweighs all the negatives. It seems insane to me to want to stay like that but maybe it’s worth it still.

[old cypress]

It's still ongoing? I just woke up

[mild mist]

Of course, it never ends

[rain spade]

mhj cookeeed

[old cypress]

bro, 5 hours????

[waxen musk]

Replay

[timber shell]

im tired at all of this situations like why this need to be happened on newjeans 🙁

[cinder verge]

i js woke up is someone tryna do a breakdown or sum?

[old cypress]

ah SBS is looping it. Got freaked out for a sec

[regal frigate]

Same

[neon kelp]

Newjeans on top guys

[cinder verge]

so did mhj win?

[old cypress]

lmao the shaman news

[neon kelp]

Yea

Mhj won for now

[waxen musk]

Depending on where you look you’ll see wildly different reactions so I wouldn’t say she won or lost, it just depends on who you ask. Also who cares I just want the girls to win at life.

[unkempt roost]

i wonder whats the best way moving forward

[old cypress]

I'm not sure hybe can successfully sue MHJ for breach of trust as nothing actually happened, the kakao convo is just talk and no action was ever taken it seems

[mild mist]

That's probably why they're trying to win in the court of public opinion

Pressure her to step down / be removed before it goes to criminal court

[old cypress]

yeah the witch hunt is insane, they probably know mhj can't handle public pressure well

releasing gossip such as "she said bts was copied from her ideas" without a shred of evidence

[acoustic valve]

Craziest thing to me is how this seems to be more a clash of egos than anything else, imagine causing all this drama over egos when hybe already owns and makes money from everything, quite literally. Ugh

[unkempt roost]

ikr

[acoustic valve]

yeah and watching people eat it up without any critical thinking. Getting so tired of it all

[humble condor]

And she definitely has Depression from the looks of it, just not sure if its all the way from before the saga. Wherever she goes after the whole saga blows over I hope she can get all the help she need. Although I heard Psychiatrists in general from S.Korea ain't got a very nice ethical reputation which is a sad reality.

[old cypress]

ETA mv is relevant as hell now

[old cypress]

From what i could see she always had trouble on and off from her sm days. She's a creative so I'm not too surprised she doesn't feel well unless she can fully express her creativity

[neon kelp]

This is crazy

[old cypress]

awww Hyein

[rain spade]

HYEINNN 😢

[dry atlas]

https://twitter.com/CakeDegg/status/1783457100951429130?t=ICxsrgEuqhNuK1pVdqFF5g&s=19

Cake🍀 (@CakeDegg) on X

HYBE is actively monitoring and deleting posts that support Min Hee-jin

Twitter · Apr 25, 2024, 11:24 AM

is this real? who goes to these forums can confirm?

[waxen musk]

How?

[fast cobalt]

Whoa

[old cypress]

it's a someone saying that they posted messages of support on news sites and they got deleted

messages or whole articles i'm not sure

[fast cobalt]

How crazy, ppl can't even speak what they want now

[old cypress]

that might be fake we can't identify who sent the truck

[neon kelp]

Well Idk but it looks real as it can get

[old cypress]

I mean, hybe might have sent the truck

[orchid field]

omfg these people
hybe did not pay newjeans 2 months after debut, get them individual rooms with herman miller furniture but hybe very much did openly publicize a audit on their music label a couple days before their come back

[haughty jacinth]

where can i find the updates of the live in english?

[rain spade]

whole studio in there too

[old cypress]

the press conference? It's over already. https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-25/entertainment/kpop/LIVE-UPDATES--ADOR-CEO-Min-Heejin-press-conference/2033613#google_vignette

[acoustic valve]

It wouldn't surprise me, of course there are moderators and moderation tools. If it's stuff like reddit, moderators taking the side of hybe isn't out of the question, those moderators being coerced into taking that position by hybe isn't out of the question either, whether that be through financial means or otherwise.

[haughty jacinth]

thanks

[dry atlas]

[mild mist]

It's the 'support newjeans under hybe ' part that baffles me
Why would you need to specify that?

[orchid field]

obviously paid to do so

[haughty jacinth]

i thought it still going live, so i assume this is replay of the conference?

[old cypress]

even when newjeans say "i love min heejin" people are just like "nah you're being manipulated you poor poor dimwit girl"

[acoustic valve]

ask the person who probably wrote it

[dry atlas]

funny how I've not seen anyone talk about that

how mhj fought to debut nj

[proud flax]

is it time again mel

[novel pebble]

The live is replay?

[mild mist]

I believe it's looping, for some reason

[arctic sky]

Yeah this is the part that makes me so mad, they said mhj was using the gurls.

[orchid field]

it's pretty funny like did we even read and understood the same thing mhj poured her heart out for hours with reciepts and screenshots and hybe is just haha she's lying and don't believe her this guy is my new kim jong un fr

[dry atlas]

pls watch this thread for me

[neon kelp]

I did

[proud flax]

im not sei but i will notify you

[old cypress]

kpop fans have a tendancy to treat idols as clueless toddlers they need to protect

[dry atlas]

ty

[acoustic valve]

because most people have clearly chosen a position and confirmation bias will always make them fixate on whatever supports their pre-existing beliefs. It's just a fact that a lot of kpop fans hate mhj, and have since debut now

[lyric geyser]

I knew she was innocent

[mild mist]

This. I hate this idea of babying your idol

[old cypress]

Same it's so disrespectful. They're human beings and most of the time they're older than the kpop fans themselves

[lyric geyser]

Never hated on min

Now, I’d like an actual tribunal to judge this but now at least it’s fair to the public eye

[old cypress]

and added "oh btw she's consulting a shaman she cray cray loool"

[ocean arch]

Everybody hung up on the minji comment smh

[valid sierra]

Mhj exposing the schemes bang pd and jiwon made for the past years
Yet kpop stans take was mhj chose minji for being young

[old cypress]

imo it's likely that the court will side with min heejin as she did no actual step towards the escape plan. I think the whole thing is just to destroy her and make her quit

[vale grove]

So what's happened today? Did the press conference reveal anything significant

[dry atlas]

um

yes

[old cypress]

wall of text, best you read it

[lyric geyser]

Fr, like all the people who say ILLIT wasn’t inspired by NJ are lying to themselves, yes they’re different but the similarities are obvious in the dances, MVs, vibes and even some musics, I thought HYBE was reusing their ressources, I didn’t know Belift and Ador were different things, the second I learned this I was like oh this is plagia

[orchid field]

check the pins alot has happened haha

[vale grove]

Alright thanks y'all, how are we feeling ? Handling the news well?

[proud flax]

tldr: a lot of dirt on hybe and bangpd, nothing much about the audit

[vale grove]

Gonna read the pins now do I need to hold my breath 😭

[vale grove]

Alright thank u

[orchid field]

audit was submited, mhj allegedly did not hand in her laptop but she says she was given a totally different date to hand it back

[old cypress]

everyone last week was saying illit copied newjeans but after mhj said it suddenly everyone went "oh they're different, there's no plagiarism at all"

[neon kelp]

They are surely lying to themselves

[proud flax]

till the audit is finished, we basically have nothing but the press conference

[lyric geyser]

HYBE signed that contract with universal music, for me if NJ and Min were to leave HYBE and fund their own company it would be great, we would get their music back on tiktok

[novel pebble]

https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1783434617665597883 is this real

Kpop Charts (@kchartsmaster) on X

HYBE comments on Min Heejin’s press conference:

— “Not worth responding to… Please return your information assets and respond to the audit immediately.”

https://t.co/x9svWQzx2x

Twitter · Apr 25, 2024, 9:55 AM

[old cypress]

the audit is already finished i think

[valid sierra]

Hybe saying "not worth to fight" when in fact they dont have evidence to fight with. Newjeans and tokkis are really alone

[dry atlas]

if you're gonna read only one read the live updates

try not to feel sad

[sterile umbra]

i saw a comment

[vale grove]

Okay 😦 that doesn't sound good whoops

[novel pebble]

Is Kpop Charts reliable?

[neon kelp]

We are strong not weak

[old cypress]

yes

[ashen charm]

Mhj should never be near njs again wtf man ....

[novel pebble]

They pulled the "ain't reading allat" move

[valid sierra]

Nothing new really. Just wont expect from them anymore

[cyan delta]

Why are ppl saying mhj won? The conference seems like a mess

[neon kelp]

From hybe?

[drifting scaffold]

She exposed a ton of bad management with evidence to back it up

[sterile umbra]

as i saw a cute random youtubeshorts video of your girls (the 'danielle's signature sound'), i saw this comment

[drifting scaffold]

Its not like she just flat out won of course, but its certainly turned the tides

[cyan delta]

I see

[ashen charm]

Mhj just turned the kpop world against her

[neon kelp]

Don't worry hanni punch is very strong for toxic fans

[cyan delta]

Her bringing newjeans into this just to make ppl feel guilty for her was so dumb tho

[vale grove]

Can someone verify if this is what has happened? I can't really understand the live updates 😕 eyopkr normally is a trustworthy source but need to understand if this is what rlly happened

[drifting scaffold]

Yeah she didn't need to involve them as heavily but oh well what's done is done

[old cypress]

Then Park Ji-won came to us and told us not to promote NewJeans before Le Sserafim's debut, because they wanted people to think that Le Sserafim was Min Hee-jin's girl group. LOL

[drifting scaffold]

I'm abit confused about that part, was the original plan that mhj would debut a new group under source or?

[ashen charm]

She wanted younger people to debut she really showing her true intentions

[sterile umbra]

it's very shocking to see what is happening right now, since the issues that are pertaining to this discussion went boom in every social platforms

[neon kelp]

They did it for sure

[vale grove]

Oh my angels...they must be so hurt and confused 😞

[proud flax]

this is why i dont think this helps mhj's case at all. this is supposed to be between a beef between her and hybe, but the name dropping of groups is just spiraling the situation.

[old cypress]

the original plan was debuting newjeans under big hit then hybe decided to launch a gg under source (lsfm) and delay newjeans' debut indefinitely

[drifting scaffold]

Oh I see

[novel pebble]

how long did the conference last?

[neon kelp]

That's why newjeans debut news was not known

[vapid bronze]

Someone recap me the most recent happenings

[cyan delta]

Exactly, she keeps bringing up other names into this. Breaking down while telling us how much newjeans members cried for her seems like a last minute try to get the public on her side

[valid sierra]

Public opinion doesnt affect the case at all. Just like mhj said, the conference was to clear allegations before the incoming comeback

[ashen charm]

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-25/entertainment/kpop/LIVE-UPDATES--ADOR-CEO-Min-Heejin-press-conference/2033613
This what I've found idk if it's been pinned yet

[old cypress]

she tends to overexplain but at the same time she really wants to clear her name

[tired ingot]

she doesn't love newjeans at all

[drifting scaffold]

At least she admits she's not the best with words lol

[neon kelp]

I wouldn't say that
Newjeans is everything for her

[old cypress]

she took the L and made ADOR so she could debut newjeans

[valid sierra]

Also just like mhj lawyers said, they are looking forward to the case hybe is filing. Seems like mhj side is confident and have a strong rebuttal

[sterile umbra]

i hope that our girls are doing fine after all of these allegations and issues

[ashen charm]

That kinda happens when your a manipulator

[tired ingot]

she using newjeans members to protect herself

[old cypress]

you're gonna be banned at this rate lol

[neon kelp]

If she is saving herself then why would she go out for so much trouble for newjeans??
Tell me that

[rain spade]

you wanna hear the members side of the story if what mhj said is true?

[orchid field]

did newjeans tell you that? or did newjeans go to comfort her ?

[novel pebble]

NJ doesnt have much mood recently during Hyein's Bday live

[ashen charm]

I think they wanna keep them selves occupied because this is just the beginning

[old cypress]

minions is gonna say newjeans and their parents are too dumb to think for themselves and smart kpop fans need to protect them

[proud flax]

@dry atlas i think its time

[neon kelp]

Fr such a hater

[valid sierra]

Newjeans and their parents are in mhj side. They are the ones who knows the bigger picture. I will be siding with the members

[dry atlas]

chill

let's all chill

[neon kelp]

Me too with mhj and newjeans

[ashen charm]

How do newjeans move on from this can they ? Hopefull

[novel pebble]

I can't listen to their songs peacefully thinking that the members' are dealing with their problems

[neon kelp]

I'm just listening their songs to support them

[proud flax]

i didn't think it needed to be said but we've still only heard one side of the story (mhj), we should really reserve any judgement till facts are straight.

[vapid bronze]

A 50 cent song represents this situation but instead of death it's hate

[vale grove]

Oh my god I'm reading the report and....what I'm gathering is NewJeans wouldn't have ever debuted since hybe had priorities on lesserafim and this is where the issues started

[old cypress]

not "ever" but most likely just someday^tm

[nimble stream]

Yeah eventually they debuted

[old cypress]

they wanted to debut lsfm and make people think it's mhj's group. Just like what they're doing with illit

[vapid bronze]

Ahh so a snowball effect?

[vale grove]

Dude....that's so actually upsetting.....

[sterile umbra]

Kpop industry is skeri on the other hand

[nimble stream]

Whats next? Its actually not Hyein's idea to not promote NewJeans' debut but HYBE's?

[ashen charm]

Parents were mad for sure

[vale grove]

So also what I'm gathering is that the NewJeans members are themselves afraid to lose mhj. And that the only connection to source music was her casting minji.

[vapid bronze]

bro I can't

[sterile umbra]

that's kinda very confusing

[ashen charm]

Breath in breath out chill it's okay

[vapid bronze]

Our group's rep cuh

[vale grove]

This is very upsetting. I want to believe mhj but I just don't know. She said the girls have been calling her, crying otp for about 20 mins each night. Poor angels...

[ashen charm]

Which part?

[old cypress]

didn't she keep showing messages on the screen while she was talking? If anything it would be on the same value as hybe's screenshot on their escape plan

[proud flax]

you have to remember its an audit of ador's management as a whole, not just mhj

[sterile umbra]

the events that are happening right now, since they're the only ones who know the whole story, and can cause a stir between what's the truth and what's not behind the curtains

[old cypress]

audit conducted by hybe though they can really just say anything

[half goblet]

waaaaaa i hate min heejin waaaaaaa

[proud flax]

who's to say mhj can also just say anything?

[old cypress]

hence same value

[jade cypress]

you can't say that, man!

[half goblet]

waaaaaa

[timber shell]

please check pinned message

[pulsar steeple]

[proud flax]

im going to kiss you if you don't stop

[half goblet]

goo goo ga ga i hate min heejin

[vapid bronze]

Calm luh lil ahh down jaywalker

[jade cypress]

you're like a baby dude 😆

[hoary frost]

Who are you mocking in this case

[tired ingot]

say whatever you want, but I'm really love them
because of them I'm into to kpop

[vale grove]

Fuck this whole situation man. Hearing haerin called mhj when it's so out of her character to call anyone out of the blue like that "just to hear her voice" man this is so disturbing and nasty to me I can't anymore 😞

[ashen charm]

Yeah but they were confirmed leak texts between her and pd so some of of it is the truth the rest has to be proven in court

[hoary frost]

everyone ate it up when NewJeans said they think of her as a mother figure, but then get weirded out if they want to call her?? Um ok.

[dry atlas]

yeah that's what i was warning you for...

[vapid bronze]

I got some alcohol gang, we can drink (unless you Muslim mb)

[dry atlas]

[vale grove]

I've been crying about it since I read most of the report and idk how to feel. I'm so sad for them.

[acoustic valve]

I respect your opinion, but what will you say if the NJ members directly hint or even public say they agree with mhj? Is your hatred of MHJ going to make you start hating the girls too?

[vale grove]

Oh I'm not weirded out. I'm so sad. This whole thing has me upset, I've been crying since I've been reading Abt it

[hoary frost]

gotcha

[vale grove]

Damn shouldve known it was bad....now I'm in my room sulking like a baby for them as if I'm not supposed to be getting ready to go to school today 😭 idc I'm skipping class I can't do this rn

[vapid bronze]

Get them grades up

[sterile umbra]

i'm really hoping that this issue will be cleared out in no time

[pulsar steeple]

[dry atlas]

hey dont skip class lol

[vapid bronze]

[dry atlas]

that's what the girls would say

[vale grove]

I can skip today it's not required to go in person today 🥺

[tired ingot]

I will never hated them I'm respect whatever their decision.
what I'm trying to say mhj just make situation getting worse, newjeans getting hated everywhere

[vapid bronze]

Alright, be comfortable we with you

[proud flax]

honestly can't wait for the opinions to possibly sway when/if hybe comes out with info, my popcorn gon taste good

[vale grove]

I just need to calm down but I might head into the city and go to ktown, but if I do that I won't be able to avoid the situation 😞

[nimble stream]

My class started the same minute the presscon started

[orchid field]

🫂

[mild mist]

I don't think it makes too much of a difference, they'll always be her group, even if she's not involved

[ashen charm]

Yeah when I read it felt like the end for a bit there 💔

[vale grove]

Aughhh that makes me hurt even more 😞

[acoustic valve]

mhj does not own the girls, just like neither do we, if they wanted their opinions to be known everyone should respect it. If it turns out they didn't agree with mhj mentioning them and she did anyway, I'd hate her for it too, but as it stands it's hard to come to that conclusion rn

[vale grove]

Yeah no I'm actually so confused and hurt I just want them to be happy. I don't think I've ever loved a group like this. I just want the best for the girls and them to be happy yk?

[novel pebble]

I don't know any other ggs that have the same vibe with theirs

[old cypress]

reading the press conference it really seems like hybe egos are not coping with newjeans success well

[vapid bronze]

I'm so like stressed about the situation, what if it goes bad? What will happen after all this?

[vale grove]

I don't know but I don't wanna think about that. I'm gonna go into ktown today and see all of the NewJeans stuff and start bawling like a baby

[rapid niche]

good luck to me.

i will backread.

[ashen charm]

Idk if njs are capable of trusting someone who's not mhj

[vale grove]

I mean that's what It seems, they are calling her at night and asking for reassurance

[vapid bronze]

I wonder what will happen to their contracts

[vale grove]

This is scary actually. I just pray at night and beg for it all to be okay because NewJeans has been the ultimate source of creative inspiration for me. Everything they have done has actually altered my life. I wouldn't be going into creative business if it weren't for them and idk. This hurt just so. Foreign to me.

[acoustic valve]

for better or worse, this whole debacle no matter how it ends only further cements newjeans spot in kpop history and nothing hybe or anyone else can do anything about that. I just hope the girls know there are plenty of people who support them no matter what through this

[old cypress]

yeah i really liked the creative ideas they put out through newjeans

[hoary frost]

newjeans will always remain iconic

[vapid bronze]

I hope hybe doesn't screw with newjeans in any ways, that's all if mhj goes

[vale grove]

Yeah

[prisma ferry]

I passed out so what happened?

[dry atlas]

even if they disband now they have had a hof worthy career

[hoary frost]

too bad im not billionaire

[dry atlas]

[gaunt flame]

please give me summary later mr sei

[vale grove]

If I was incredibly Rich I would scoop up newjeans in an instant. Where are the rich chaebol fans when you need them

[hoary frost]

im scared for tomorrow morning. god knows what else they will put out lol. i hope they can stfu since nj comeback promo starts

[vapid bronze]

The fact they won't stfu, cause yk how people drag shit online

[vale grove]

Oh wow I didn't even realize the comeback is Happening so soon wtf

[harsh dove]

no u

[proud flax]

where's ur ai summary ebob

[gaunt flame]

it only works on browser, not discord!!

[vapid bronze]

Make it work

[rose turret]

[gaunt flame]

discord should add summary feature on thread too

[rose turret]

no

[old cypress]

The posters for NewJeans and [ILLIT's label] Belift Lab are exactly the same. Really, it is. The hanbok pictorial never existed before us, then ILLIT just copied it exactly. You can't tell them apart. - what is she referring to ?

[prisma ferry]

I saw the translation one part wrote Haerin was crying

[vapid bronze]

Shhh I ain't tryna be sad gang

[hoary frost]

[lyric geyser]

No she’s a great CEO

[dry atlas]

it was actually hyein

[old cypress]

no pics? my bad

[drowsy crypt]

I feel disgusting to the translation

[vapid bronze]

Gotta be on topic

[lyric geyser]

She does

[vale grove]

Me too, i am hurt and scared but they must be having it the worst right now. Their whole lives have been dedicated to training and working towards this dream and this is what happens

[old cypress]

it's related to mhj's press conference but i understand

[lyric geyser]

Ador made them who they are, I think their should separate from HYBE

Newjeans has such a big name, it would not hurt them

[prisma ferry]

Idk if anyone would still side with mhj

[old cypress]

5:06 p.m. A fan, disguised as a reporter, attempts to ask a question.

[lyric geyser]

HYBE management clearly do not care about Newjeans, they wanted lesserafim to have more success

[dry atlas]

did you read the live updates

[lyric geyser]

Lmao

[gentle sedge]

im so curious what the question was

[prisma ferry]

That’s really fucked up promote Le Sserafim more while hold NewJeans debut forever

[valid sierra]

https://entertain.naver.com/ranking
all are hybe-pro articles. damn the media play

[acoustic valve]

I saw a woman destroy her own career on livestream in order to let her feelings and story be known to the world under a barrage of misinformation from an impossible rich company, and if her words about the members are correct; to also let the girls' thoughts and feelings be heard too. I can't find it in me to hate on her unless it turns out everything she said about how the girls felt were a lie

[old cypress]

nahh she didn't destroy her career at all. If anything more people especially smart people and industry insiders will side with her as they can see what hybe is doing

[vale grove]

I'm team NewJeans. If the girls choose to side with mhj I am too. Ofc I will be weary of all going on but they understand this situation better than anyone does, they are living through it. So I believe her. I believe the girls and mhj. Unless other stuff comes out I'm team NewJeans from ADOR. I want this to be over with.

[prisma ferry]

So another press conference with NewJeans?

[valid sierra]

she even said that companies were contacting her during this issue

[vale grove]

Abt what particularly? Taking them in?

[old cypress]

investors not companies

[valid sierra]

mhj. idk about newjeans

[vale grove]

Okay

[old cypress]

i think people underestimate how established mhj is in the industry. A lot of insiders consider her a creative genius. It'll take a lot more for people to stop wanting to work with her

[acoustic valve]

I don't think what she did is good career-wise, it may "repair" her image somewhat, but even if it did it also proves she's very much emotional and unpredictable. Two things that are deadly when it comes to the corporate chain, at least as far as having these seep into your professional life is concerned

[old cypress]

who wouldn't be emotional after the smear campaign hybe ran?

and it's kinda accepted that creative people are a bit on the unstable side

[acoustic valve]

A professional, for better or worse. Not saying this as a dig to her either. I respect her more after this, in part because I don't think this was by any means the best response if her goal is truly to protect her career and based on personal greed for money

[old cypress]

if you respect her more then a lot of people will also respect her more

remember she's not an idol, she doesn't need the public to exist

[acoustic valve]

I can only hope, what's important to me is that the girls also wanted this response

[old cypress]

yeah hyein wanted to speak out on phoning apparently

[acoustic valve]

where'd that come from?

[old cypress]

i say apparently bc i can't see it in the press transcript. Someone said it here

[short laurel]

why fandom treating girls like babies. like half of them are adults. they know and understand everything that's going on. if they really had problem with mhj they wouldn't be so close to her.

[neon kelp]

Yall acting like newjeans will disband for sure
Have some faith

No offense

[acoustic valve]

I can see Hyein wanting to... I can also see why she'd be advised against it to protect herself

[old cypress]

yeah obviously best for them to stay out

[acoustic valve]

I'm sure if they really had disagreements with mhj, we'll find out sooner rather than later.

Bashing her is a very popular and easy position to take after all, Got the whole hybe machine and most of the internet on your side

[prisma ferry]

I still side with NewJeans

[dry atlas]

the correct side

way to go jerry

[torpid tinsel]

by my side

[dry atlas]

no

[proud flax]

what about my side

[dry atlas]

go outside..

[neon kelp]

I side with newjeans too

[proud flax]

https://tenor.com/view/soobfad-druski-gif-25646977

[short laurel]

it's scary how industry manipulate all of their fandom to pit against 1 individual

[prisma ferry]

Innocent Minji Hanni Danielle Haerin Hyein

[neon kelp]

Yep newjeans is innocent

[prisma ferry]

HYBE want to promote Le Sserafim while NewJeans never existed wtf

[vapid bronze]

Wth is this supposed to mean, if newjeans never existed while lsf did, just promote lsf?

[hoary frost]

read the conference bits. there is a link

[vapid bronze]

I'm too lazy gang, summarise it

[neon kelp]

So hybe wanted to promote lsf first
While newjeans didn't had any promotion

[old cypress]

they wanted to promote lsfm as min heejin's group

[hoary frost]

nj was supposed to be launched as first hybe gg, but bang pd recruited izone members, leaving nj future up in air. then when lsfm debuted, hybe wanted mhj to not launch nj yet bc they want ppl to think lsfm was mhj gg

[vale grove]

Yes exactly what is said

[hoary frost]

anyways they used each other. hybe used mhj brand and mhj used hybe funds. arent they equal? ppl think mhj is ungrateful when hybe funded her, but hybe also exploited her name for their sake

[vapid bronze]

So they basically wanted newjeans to be brushed away for later

[old cypress]

what went down is mhj created ADOR so newjeans could debut, the initial intention was debuting newjeans under big hit

[hoary frost]

in the beginning they didnt care if they would debut. mhj wanted to fulfill promise with parents who were upset and park jiwon played mediator between mhj and bang pd, made it possible for ador to be created and nj transferred

[vapid bronze]

Everything was fine

[hoary frost]

the way no one excepted nj to succeed like this

gagged park jiwon and bang pd a bit.

[vapid bronze]

[valid sierra]

bro hybe is getting sooo much hate rn. i guess the counterattack was successful

[prisma ferry]

So that’s how ador was created so NewJeans could debut first

[hoary frost]

depends where u look at. some places reactions are mixed

[vapid bronze]

I feel like they are kids fighting over something

[valid sierra]

Egotistical creatrues

[acoustic valve]

Thing is, a lot of what she said does make sense and is a successful appeal to human empathy, just don't think much of it is relevant legally speaking. I'm glad at least we got the story though, because we're humans afterall and not machines who only care about legalities. The story needed to be heard if hybe was going after Ador like this just because they spoke up internally

[hoary frost]

yes, i was tired of one sided mediaplay

[sudden frigate]

I hope. But they are doing things like removing anti-HYBE comments

And the fans of other groups, especially within HYBE, twisting MHJ's words

[acoustic valve]

tbf a corporation getting hate should be the default position in almost any dispute between it and employees, it often doesn't matter too much because they're.... corporations

[old cypress]

it's clear that they debuted illit without any care of newjeans

[hoary frost]

bang pd wives vs min heejin maidens

[proud flax]

that's what i took away from this press release. she's just speaking out what she can creating a bit of discourse to distract from the legal situation. i found pretty much nothing from the press release relevant to the upcoming suit, just exposing what most of us expected from these big corps.

[valid sierra]

Mhj revealing so many facts before the general meeting will help them alot

[acoustic valve]

i found the leaked chats revealing... got a slight window into BSH's mind.... and it ain't pretty
The part where he clearly knew big hit had a diehard fanbase (due to BTS) and was unashamed in saying he wants to use those fans to build a successful GG.
Like, on some level I know this is a consideration that companies make, but to hear a chairman say it so explicitly and casually was eye-opening. Same with the aespa stuff

[hoary frost]

majority of shares belong to bang pd and his cousin...how will it help? she is basically whistleblower to them

[proud flax]

The aespa name drop is probably the least crazy thing about the chats. It should be expected the higher ups are watching competitors and what moves they make.
The whole using big hit fans as a building block to make a gg is kinda funny to me.

[dry atlas]

i made the mistake of going on reddit

my head hurts more than from reading this thread

[short laurel]

nvr liked Bang after hearing his interviews from previous dramas. and always wondered why in the world people are praising him for his bad interviews. coorporate fans are scary

[prisma ferry]

Even though I’m not siding with MHJ but this one I’m siding with her, reporters going behind her and lots of camera flashing https://x.com/jeff__benjamin/status/1783491655078908252?s=46&t=4uD5iaf7AIT_YHg4Ay5yjw

Jeff Benjamin (@Jeff__Benjamin) on X

Don't even know where to begin...so I'll just ask... since when are photographers allowed to shoot in front of and behind the speaker at a press conference...? This photo is so.....

Twitter · Apr 25, 2024, 1:42 PM

[proud flax]

r/kpop or r/newjeans?

[dry atlas]

the other kpop reddits

i have them on like a list

it's a cesspool on my phone

[upper solstice]

Link

[cosmic sage]

never read kpop stuff on reddit

[unkempt roost]

do yourself a favor and delete that list

[short laurel]

the camera flashing in broad daylight i nvr understood this concept. and flashes hits others eyes. it's overall bad for eyes. and the way they do it is so disrespectful. not just her but in all of industry

[dry atlas]

the odd positive posts are nice to read. before this fiasco lol

[cosmic sage]

i only have r/kpop on reddit for kpop news never reading anything about controvery stuff

[prisma ferry]

They do this everywhere even here in US

[short laurel]

ik. it's so stupid.

[torpid tinsel]

her impact

[short laurel]

idol mhj

[nimble stream]

press conference green

[hoary frost]

stocks going to be insane tomorrow morning. mhj basically said multi label system is failure and hybe brags about multi label system a lot

[acoustic valve]

Here's a twitter thread of pro-mhj korean reactions, as a companion piece to that hit thread made by a hybe-fan https://vxtwitter.com/sobrokenobreak/status/1783451466344321111

Seems to be getting a lot of strong and empathic reactions from korean women... understandable

[upper solstice]

Have u seen reactions on reddit

[acoustic valve]

why would I need to, I alrdy know what it would be like

[tawdry vessel]

reddit is a shit hole

[unkempt roost]

this is the only thread u need to read on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/1ccohqt/comment/l16jg2a

[upper solstice]

Feels like im reading a whole different statement 😭😭

[acoustic valve]

reddit is fine as long as you share the majority opinion, but once you don't it becomes the most toxic hellhole of all social media platforms

[unkempt roost]

it gives a pretty good analysis on the situation, the rest of the comments are a shitstorm lol

[tawdry vessel]

it's a hive mind

[unkempt roost]

one could say it is a hybe mind

[placid rose]

who has the upper hand now?

[dry atlas]

waz park jiwon ever part of source?

or was it just him being bang pd mouthpiece

[sharp acorn]

[prisma ferry]

LMAO WHAT?!?!

[tawdry vessel]

if you're a tokki and you side with hybe just dont show your face to me cause hybe clearly doesn't care about the girls other than they generate money for them

[unkempt roost]

imo knetz opinions are definitely starting to shift towards MHJ, ifans are a mixed bag cuz theres a lot of misinfo due to mistranslations and wrongly cropped snippets (cuz not a lot understood korean to watch the whole thing). Legally? We'll have to wait n see. What MHJ said in the press con does not affect the legal case whatsoever

[prisma ferry]

NewJeans would never existed if mhj didn’t create ador label

[dry atlas]

lol some of these are fansites

cool

[orchid field]

before hybe he was ceo of nexon, so yeah he is bang pd lapdog rn

[prisma ferry]

Nexon a gaming company?

[orchid field]

yeah maple story *is nexon

[unkempt roost]

nexon.... doesnt exactly have a very good reputation

[short laurel]

nexon? no wonder.

[short laurel]

iirc army hated on bang pd cuz of solo album of a member.

[prisma ferry]

I Hope few more years of NewJeans

[stone grotto]

I’m just worried if mhj leaves and newjeans stay, they don’t re-sign as a group and it’ll just be an end to such a good run of a group that had it all

[orchid field]

ya worse case scenario fatty bang shelfs newjeans and pushes groups he produce instead

[vapid bronze]

Jungkook w supporter

[stone grotto]

Newjeans makes too much money for him to shelf but then again it looks like he is petty

[vapid bronze]

Jungkook representative animal is a bunny, and him being a fan of newjeans aswell makes it funnier for me

[fluid folio]

and V somehow

he worked with MHJ

[west osprey]

I read and am updated, and now I'm sad. Poor girls, I hope they can have some peace. Good morning, time for coffee

Also, I love HYBE's statement. "We could deny all of this, but we choose not to," yeah, that's like my brother's excuses when we fight

[acoustic valve]

this, if NJ got disbanded and their contracts terminated it would also mean they're free to do what they want. Staying under BSH without MHJ or her team to stand by their side means they're stuck for 5 more years by themselves against an entire corporate structure that clearly doesn't like or favor them. Wasting their potential, but worst is just the idea of being contractually obligated to spend everyday working with people you hate (with good reason).

[short laurel]

if that happens bunnies will notice the difference in treatment. and this fandom is not small. public opinion should help nj if that were to happen

[vapid bronze]

A Lil war might happen

[acoustic valve]

we've seen how petty BSH is, there's no protecting yourself from that when the man is literally bigger than god in this company, fandom or not. Ugh, makes me sick just thinking about it

[stone grotto]

I’m hoping bubble gum comes out and completely goes viral, and squashes everything

[cinder verge]

what can i read to get updated

all i know is what happened in the press conference

[stone grotto]

Uh rapmonster announced new album, The day newjeans has their comeback

[cinder verge]

i didnt really understand the press conference tho is there like a summary or breakdown or some shit 😭

[stone grotto]

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-25/entertainment/kpop/LIVE-UPDATES--ADOR-CEO-Min-Heejin-press-conference/2033613#google_vignette

[sudden frigate]

So tired of people making fake news out of this

[orchid field]

so true yayaya sweet like bubble gum 🎶

[fluid folio]

me too, everywhere i go theres full of fake news, facebook, tiktok, ig 😭

[pulsar steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-fake-smile-in-love-smitten-cute-dog-gif-15858892084545554018

me rn

[acoustic valve]

Knetz is where you'll get the least amount of fake news and drama, they actually saw and understood the context of the entire press conference, not relying on clipped and mistranslated bits

[stone grotto]

Mhj sweater sold out hehe

Zico could take over as ceo, That would be a good fit for them

[sudden frigate]

Is her chat "Noooooooooooooo" about Sakura and Chaewon real? That's actually quite funny

[orchid field]

can we see the alleged photo pretty please

[sudden frigate]

https://fxtwitter.com/aeki0f/status/1783423003587379368

[orchid field]

this is edited

[stone grotto]

lol that’s fake af, they were on kakaotalk not iPhone

[prisma ferry]

Oh yeah true

[sudden frigate]

I knew it is sigh

[sudden frigate]

And why would they text in English

[drifting scaffold]

So that she can show us the slides in the future of course

[short laurel]

post like these are bad. people(specifically Twitter babies) gonna take is literally.

[sudden frigate]

They are posting fake quotes, twisting her words, etc

[stone grotto]

Like how hybe has been taking the most innocuous facts and stretching it without full context lol

[orchid field]

i know right like someone would make a sarcastic joke that you would only get if you read the whole conference and then random twitter users just treat it like a fact

[short laurel]

yea. it all over. it's annoying. and people just making more and more

all it will do is bring the name down in international community. atleast korean and japan bunnies understood the press