NJZ Updates and Discussion

[sudden frigate]

THANK GOD THE GIRLS AREN'T THERE

[nimble stream]

She entered

[wet jewel]

thats not a suit

[upper geyser]

LA HAT BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[quick wadi]

woo rep LA

[dry atlas]

unnie!

[tiny mantle]

[quick wadi]

lets go dodgers

[dry atlas]

bora heartu!!

[torn topaz]

2 water bottles

[sudden frigate]

Why she look musty

[upper geyser]

BOOOOO FUCK LA

[white arch]

she is on a party bro, look that flash

[twin cypress]

Mhj got some aura

[prisma ferry]

Any translator?

[shy schooner]

she had no sleep

[sudden frigate]

True

[wet jewel]

[upper geyser]

she looks like she off 1 hr of sleep

[tawdry vessel]

she looks sad 😔

[nimble stream]

Oh no professor entered

[proud flax]

she gonna drag ohtani into this

[mild stratus]

where is tikkitokki with the live subs

[tiny mantle]

Wow the flash

[shy schooner]

flashes too much

[gleaming scarab]

the camera flashes

[upper solstice]

Is that mr. A on the left? Slimy mf

[torn topaz]

needs sunglasses

[opal zodiac]

"i cant talk (because of the flashes), i really can't talk"

[pulsar steeple]

Shi boutta get real

[wet jewel]

dude look at her

[steep torrent]

why she look greasy

[upper geyser]

shes getting the valorant flash

[primal sage]

Mr A omg hello he’s there

[shy schooner]

she looks defeated already

[sudden frigate]

She don't look happy

[dapper root]

she thinks she ohtani...

[unkempt roost]

"I can't focus if you use flashes"

[tender karma]

DODGERS WOOOO

[upper geyser]

she should have brought shades LMAO

[mild stratus]

nobody talk, except tikkitokki

[orchid field]

bro can they like chill gah damn you dont need a flash indoors

[mild stratus]

thanks

[wet jewel]

is she putting on an act

[strange venture]

stress

[quick wadi]

i put 15 sec slow mode now

[somber pumice]

she about to cry

[proud flax]

1 minute slow mode, do it

[prisma ferry]

Yeah flasing is too much

[upper geyser]

RAWG SHE GONNA CRY

[tiny peak]

oh my god

[steep torrent]

oh god

[waxen musk]

never seen something like this before

[valid sierra]

bro wtf is this

[tawdry vessel]

she's on a verge of crying

[upper solstice]

OH NO ITS SO OVER

[white arch]

i feel bad i cant see people crying or som

[odd knoll]

the fansite life

[shy schooner]

why are the paparazzi behind her

[upper geyser]

SHES CRYING LMFAOOO

[arctic sky]

I CANT WATCH THIS

[mild stratus]

???

[steep torrent]

what is she doing oh my god

[acoustic valve]

this feels so surreal and dystopian

[orchid field]

so disrespectful

[pulsar steeple]

Nahhhh

[hoary frost]

them taking pics of just that is crazy

[silk skiff]

cinema

[tawdry vessel]

this is rough to watch

[nimble stream]

Wow

[twin cypress]

Dude of course she doesn’t want to look at all the flashes lol

[upper geyser]

brooooo this is actually cinema this is not looking good

[hoary frost]

can they turn off flashes lol

[sudden frigate]

She about to cancel the press conf

[wet jewel]

i think shes actually crying

[final crane]

Hyeon see dms pls

[torn topaz]

how do they get that close lmao

[prisma ferry]

Idk whats going on

[white arch]

sorry gang im looking drama rn

[proud flax]

unrelated but i love boy pablo, nice pfp

[opal zodiac]

"guys, shes trying to talk, im sure you came here to hear stuff, so please stop flashes"

[waxen musk]

i think she's just protesting against talking until "camera time" is over. not crying.

[twin cypress]

Yea the flashes are excessive

[opal zodiac]

"im not even a celeb, please stop, im tyring to talk"

[upper geyser]

she got phoenix flashed

[wet jewel]

everyone shhh

[white arch]

[hoary frost]

unless she is going to expose some dirt of hybe, no one will side with her. its so pointless but lets see

[dry atlas]

people going behind her is crazy

[tiny peak]

broooooo

[dry atlas]

holy shit

[shy schooner]

they don't care

[waxen musk]

audience reaction?

[steep torrent]

can they not stop them??

[upper geyser]

time to check twt

[hoary frost]

journalists have zero culture

[prisma ferry]

Bro they not giving her any space going behind her

[unkempt roost]

Need Jeon Wick to kick these reporters out

[quick wadi]

where is jeon wick when you need him

[torn topaz]

she really hasnt said anything yet

[opal zodiac]

"idk about the photo reporters, not saying you should leave, but..."

[pulsar steeple]

Jeon wick we need you!!!

[twin cypress]

Nah them going behind is crazy

[shy schooner]

this going to be like a 3 hr press con from the looks of this

[waxen musk]

lol this is silly so far it's fucking strange

[sudden frigate]

Why she stand up

[tiny peak]

those flashes were insane

[wet jewel]

we gotta make a channel for mhj after all the pictures come out

[dry atlas]

240425 MHJ Fansign Event Press Pics

im ready

[dapper root]

LMAOOO

[odd knoll]

frick

[ocean arch]

Bruh the girls must be heartbroken watching this

[prisma ferry]

Photo reporters should know this give her personal space

[upper geyser]

now this is aura

[slender jungle]

do not bring rhe girls into this lmfao what

[dry atlas]

did this dude just pose for a photo

[steep torrent]

can already see the headlines with those pictures of her looking down

[sudden frigate]

ANyone translating?

[odd knoll]

theres already naver press pics

[dapper root]

min heejin lookng like the micheal jordan comeback

[opal zodiac]

theyre still arguing about flashes

[upper geyser]

they have nothing to do with it shes the one who involved them

[torn topaz]

this dude holding the mic so awkward

[dapper root]

girl why didnt she bring glasses UNPREPARED!!!!

[tiny peak]

she has a lot to say apparently

[waxen musk]

lol press should literally just wait if they want her to talk not like the photo they take gonna change, just waste of time.

[opal zodiac]

"the topic of conversation today is long"

[prisma ferry]

I agree with them way too much camera flash

[valid sierra]

she with 2 lawyers, so a counterattack is still possible

[upper geyser]

directors not lawyers

[strange venture]

it's the flash sound that she's sensitive about

[cerulean sail]

I think she is holding well. She probably hasn't slept in 4 days. Simply waiting for the flashes to stop,

[prisma ferry]

Bruh

[dapper root]

yo why min heejin kinda

[proud flax]

THATS ACTUALLY CRAZY 😭😭😭

[steep torrent]

thats gonna be such a meme

[white arch]

hear me out

[tiny peak]

she looks good for her age

[shy schooner]

ended?

[waxen musk]

camera-only leaving i assume

[steep torrent]

???

[upper solstice]

She’ll look good in orange

[cerulean sail]

Waiting for the security to kick all cameras out.

[sudden frigate]

WHAT IS GOING ON? Why they leaving?

[orchid field]

awesome

[upper geyser]

WHAT

[acoustic valve]

saved

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1783377474258162100?s=46&t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA

Kpop Charts (@kchartsmaster) on X

Before the emergency press conference of Min Heejin, HYBE claims that Min Heejin was involved in 'shamanic management' by relying on shamans.

HYBE claims that she discussed opinions with shamans on the issue of BTS members military service. A claim was made that the shaman made…

Twitter · Apr 25, 2024, 6:08 AM

[opal zodiac]

the camera reporters all leaving (some of them)

[dapper root]

BANGER..

[prisma ferry]

What is going on now?

[brazen ice]

doesnt that mean the livestream as well??

[wet jewel]

NEWJEANS MENTIONED

[mild stratus]

this is getting out of hand

[sudden frigate]

She said NewJeans

[upper geyser]

ayo who deleted my posts

[slender jungle]

tick off ur bingo card

[orchid field]

this is so fabricated lmaooo

[hoary frost]

hybe saying anything atp

[valid sierra]

NJ mention 😲

[stone grotto]

I mean, it looks like she asked if they could stop flashing their cameras and no one cares. Even going behind her

[prisma ferry]

She mentioned NewJeans

[opal zodiac]

this overlapped with a new newjeans release, so.....

[acoustic valve]

hybe is absolutely crazy atp

[steep torrent]

what the actual fuck

[upper solstice]

❓

[mild stratus]

HYBE next report: MHJ is actually the devil

[waxen musk]

they posted that 4 mins ago during this????

[stone grotto]

Can anyone translate

[opal zodiac]

i think she said shes suprised by when this happened, and how intense it was

[hoary frost]

satan's right hand has always been mhj

[acoustic valve]

MHJ unleashed covid so that she could debut newjeans in her own label instead of source - Hybe, probably

[twin cypress]

Yo mods can we have a channel where it’s only tiki translation so we can keep track of it

[kind hill]

yeah pls

[tawdry vessel]

this

[opal zodiac]

'my angle and hybes angle are so different, to me my thoughts are right to me, so im telling you my side'

[dry atlas]

or just stop talking

[quick wadi]

just dont talk

lol

[slender jungle]

what the fuck is she saying man

[tiny peak]

this is so sad

[hoary frost]

cant she just do expose

[torn topaz]

im waiting for her to actually say something

[dapper root]

mfer she is saying something!

[slender jungle]

she's still complaining about the cameras

[prisma ferry]

Let Tikki do the translation

[torn topaz]

will she seek financing to buy out ador? something about newjeans? declare war on hybe?

[dapper root]

jjang lmk when she says they stole whole flow bar for bar like soulja boy

[opal zodiac]

i didn't know it would be this bad, i have things to say. this isnt easy

me not speaking out would be weird ofc

[waxen musk]

really need patience for this

[opal zodiac]

my angle is so different

[slender jungle]

shes repeated the same thing like 5 times now "it feels like u guys arent treatinf me as a human being and feels like u guys are trying to kill me"

[upper geyser]

its all fun and games went until pd pulls up

[cerulean sail]

Be wary MHJ is very verbose

[brazen ice]

i think youre far behined the live bro. refresh

[hoary frost]

just say... mama im a criminal

[opal zodiac]

not exactly

[dry atlas]

keep up lol bro

[dapper root]

damn they roasting jjang man shit

[stone grotto]

Please let tikki translate

[dapper root]

let my mans breathe

[slender jungle]

nah just took me a while to type lmfao im typing with one hand brotha oh sjit wrong reply kek

[strange venture]

sure

[upper geyser]

dont check twt 💀

[slender jungle]

damien free me brotha

[steep torrent]

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-25/entertainment/kpop/LIVE-UPDATES--ADOR-CEO-Min-Heejin-press-conference/2033613#google_vignette

[opal zodiac]

(this is really hard to keep up with)

[dapper root]

idk man my only comment was why she kinda bad

[waxen musk]

dont need to translate every little thing it's all good

[dapper root]

im just letting all this play out fr

[opal zodiac]

we have a lot of hisotry, stuff you don't know, so i have a lot to say

she saying her realtionship with someone at hybe (ceo idk who exactly) changed on a dime, one moment they were close, next something changed

shes not backing down at all, you can view it as 'playing victim' if you want to frame it that way (personal opinion)

[opal zodiac]

ooo nice 👆

she got stopped from saying something she wasn't supposed to, i missed it

[dry atlas]

yeah it's in english already too

[opal zodiac]

she saying how media twisting her words to fit their narrative

shes very combative

[dry atlas]

As an employee, you complain about your job and your boss."
i feel this

[proud flax]

[twin cypress]

“But even when NewJeans told me they loved me and thanked me like their parent”. Mhj leaving is like losing a member

[hoary frost]

I don't know what she implied there. NewJeans is successful but she was not happy or content. NewJeans thanked and appreciated her but she did not felt like that because she disliked idol culture?

[opal zodiac]

my only crime is being good at my job

[dry atlas]

you forgot this sentence

, I have never agreed with people suspecting me or thinking that I love NewJeans like a fan

i think she means she doesnt fw the parasocial aspect of idol culture

[hoary frost]

ahhhh

[torpid tinsel]

interesting

[opal zodiac]

long backstory about her days at sm

[lethal hound]

Damage control!

[twin cypress]

“It used me to the fullest and now wants to take me down because I don't listen to them”. I’ve been saying that hybe wants mhj gone cause they can’t control nwjns!

[torn topaz]

damn the parasocial element is the main selling point

[valid sierra]

Min's attorney takes the stage. "It just cannot be a breach of trust. When you say 'breach of trust,' it's when an action actually leads to damaging the company. There was no incident where Min tried to diminish the company value," the attorney says. "You cannot 'plot' to breach the trust. This just doesn't count as that. I'm actually looking forward to the report they're filing to the police."

[proud flax]

lee sooman name drop

[hoary frost]

her mindset and general views must be huge liability (is this correct word) for hybe or any corporation

[stone grotto]

I kinda believe her when she said Lee sooman wanted to make her an executive but she didn’t want it

[ocean arch]

If only lee sooman comes out and confirms what she said

[opal zodiac]

taking the highroad against people who hate her

[lethal hound]

but one can argue creating newjeans is an assest

[sudden frigate]

Oh presentation

[upper geyser]

OH NAH IM BACK IN SCHOOL

[strange venture]

ooh spicy texts

[orchid field]

SHE GOT THE RECIEPTS

[prisma ferry]

Kakao Texts

[lethal hound]

Damage control

[dry atlas]

it's from bang pd?

[opal zodiac]

o god she brought a ppt

[dapper root]

THE POWER POINT...

[tender karma]

Ms. Min, will this be on the exam?

[mild stratus]

girl pulled out the receipts

[unkempt roost]

yeap it says SiHyuk

[acoustic valve]

those emoji responses taking me out

[lethal hound]

pull that kakao text out

[torpid tinsel]

BRO PULLED OUT THE RECEIPTS

[steep torrent]

attorney saying they're looking forward to it damn

[twin cypress]

She cooking right now

[torn topaz]

this is why you cant text no more

[upper geyser]

she brought the ss DAYUMMM

[opal zodiac]

those msgs are them beign super firendly and nice

[sudden frigate]

Why is the chat reopened?

[wet jewel]

bruh the emoji from bang lmao

[prisma ferry]

She's not going down without a fight

[rain spade]

Dangggggg pwp

[dry atlas]

is that aespa namedrop?? by bang pd

[lethal hound]

this is a professional damage control presentation

[upper geyser]

nah bang wtf are you doing bro

[opal zodiac]

"he said that he doesnt have confidence in makign a girl group, so ask me to do it with him"

[hoary frost]

wow they mentioned aespa

[ocean arch]

So this is before nj debut?

[tawdry vessel]

2021 so yeah

[steep torrent]

step on aespa? whats a more accurate translation?

[torpid tinsel]

can't iamgine him sending this

[hoary frost]

sm stans gonna love this

[lethal hound]

right now she is showing how bang pd and her first met and how they came to be in the beginnning of creating a label for her

[sudden frigate]

I suppose just man create a girl group that can outshine aespa

[torpid tinsel]

their lovestory unfolds

[opal zodiac]

way before

[steep torrent]

thats a convo between mhj and bang?

[upper geyser]

20v1 fr

[ocean arch]

Let them . It might take some pressure of nj

[acoustic valve]

most wild for me is to find BSH texts like a 19 yo with emojis to his workers

[twin cypress]

mhj had time today!

[sudden frigate]

Bruh she still kept receipts from 5 years ago

[opal zodiac]

if i was interested in money, i would have made my own label

[prisma ferry]

Min continues discussing HYBE's head. "What I wanted to do at first was HYBE branding, turning the Big Hit Entertainment company into a holding company. I also took on the making of a girl group because he said that he wasn't confident in making a girl group. I took it on knowing that it would be a lot of work. He promised me full support, but there wasn't a label called ADOR."

[upper geyser]

rawg that makes it worse thtas just adding to the pressure

[lethal hound]

this is easy to do in kakao

[acoustic valve]

damn, those receipts are going to lead to years of fandom wars

[dry atlas]

He told me to build the 'Min Hee-jin world.'

what happened to this romance

[ocean arch]

WW 3 gonna fight with fans

[torpid tinsel]

a couple we failed to protect

[upper geyser]

bang pd prog got rejected and shit

[sudden frigate]

Seems like a love story went wrong, NewJeans the lovechild caught in crossfire

[tawdry vessel]

it's not over yet 🥺

[opal zodiac]

being a woman in thsi industry is tough (being an entrapenur?), so i decided to just go to a comany and be an employee

[twin cypress]

Seems like she took it seriously and stopped hybe from controlling newjeans which caused the breakup

[opal zodiac]

i have nothing to do with GFRIEND

[wet jewel]

wow pulling the gender card now

[lethal hound]

she said bang pd wanted a billie eilish type concept at first LOL

[prisma ferry]

Min turns to HYBE boy band BTS. "It was before HYBE bought Source Music. Bang Si-hyuk was the chairman of HYBE. What he suggested was that BigHit has more fans because of BTS. 'We needed to make a new girl group label, so let's buy Source Music. They have trainees, so why don't we use them to debut a new girl group?' I said no at first. But I wanted to be cooperative because I had just moved to the new company."

[dry atlas]

mhj is washing off the hybe mediaplay off me

[hoary frost]

reasonable. that's what everyone thought tbh back then

[waxen musk]

Jerry you just posting updates from English translation? Thanks that's actually helpful instead of refreshing and getting error (sometimes).

[dry atlas]

she's really talking about every small thing that came up (so far)

[half knot]

out of everything in this drama so far, THIS is by far the most desperate and funniest thing I've read.

[tiny peak]

awwwwww the way she talks about minji

[dry atlas]

um my stream died

[tiny mantle]

[quick wadi]

go to sbs

[orchid field]

today will be legendary my fellow tokkis

[half knot]

right now I imagine mel's brain to be jelly, swaying from one side to the other

[tiny peak]

she's too honest for her own good

[lethal hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx8emQg0JBY

[lucid yarrow]

dirt

[dry atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZZZDNOKbwQ

[tiny mantle]

She really open the pandora of kpop

[wet jewel]

i was here

[hoary frost]

if she is going down, its better to air everything

[ripe mango]

what did she say abt minji?

[upper geyser]

bts again wow

[primal sage]

Gfriend LSM SM all mentioned here 🧍‍♀️

[opal zodiac]

"she was so so pretty when she was young"

[half knot]

this livestream is quite literally legendary already, the livestreams have as many views as major events

[acoustic valve]

this is going to be like the shot that killed franz ferdinand, going to have wide implications and wars breaking out as a result

[waxen musk]

I tend to believe someone speaking from the heart rather than a corporation sending "leaks" into the media but man this is TOUGH to believe anything. I'll wait until proof is all out there at the end.

[proud flax]

if jyp or any jyp groups are mentioned, LOCK THE CHANNEL DOWN

[upper geyser]

send the kakao chats

[prisma ferry]

imn continues discussing Source Music, HYBE's subsidiary behind Le Sserafim. "I have never been at Source Music. I don't make friends at work. I don't go to company outings. So even if they had trainees at Source Music — excuse me for going here and there — there was no one other than Minji that I could recruit."

[half knot]

The shamanism news tbh is the funniest one so far, like who even okayed that one to be send for publishing haha

[lethal hound]

kpop war 1?

[hoary frost]

random billie eilish mention?

[half knot]

also the fact that in the year of our lord 2024 we're dealing with kakaotalk screenshots as the tea on a corporate scale like this is just amazing to me.

[cerulean sail]

It's staged, they published it at the same time as the conference, hoping to draw the attention away from the conference.

[acoustic valve]

one has to wonder if MHJ chose the screenshots so far in order to maximize damage.... or was she minimizing it and there are far worse out there

[lethal hound]

she was giving an example of when bang PD wanted a billie eilish concept

[opal zodiac]

all backstory about the girls were casted

[dry atlas]

i DID NOT expect to learn about nj predebut stuff this way

[tiny peak]

said minji was the only good trainee and the most compatible, but the way she smiled when she was talking about pretty she was when she was young

[dry atlas]

i thought it would be in a documentary in year 5 or something

[somber pumice]

hanni mentioned

[quick wadi]

there goes our netflix doc

[torn topaz]

idk how this ends up good for mhj

[mild stratus]

"I had to brand the whole thing because there was no other group for people to see. Hanni was the first person who we cast with the new branded idea."

[acoustic valve]

i know every1 alrdy knows... but the man really is shameless with his efforts to commodify music isn't he?

[upper geyser]

ex sm trainees

[upper solstice]

this some good ass lore

[prisma ferry]

all 5 mwntioned

[dry atlas]

good or not, if she's going down anyway, might as well say everything she wants to say

[mild stratus]

"There were a lot of applicants, but not many that we could cast. The other three trainees were cast after we started another round under the motto 'BTS's girl group.' Danielle, Haerin then Hyein joined us. I had control because I was in charge of the creative work. There were trainees other than the NewJeans members, but I pushed through because I thought they would be a good fit."

[stone grotto]

I’d like to know where this is all going

[tiny peak]

spilllllll

[acoustic valve]

she's always made it a point she lives by her own standards and nobody elses. If she's gonna end her career in the industry, might as well say everything she wants to and present her own perspective before leaving

[lethal hound]

she is just explaining the history of ador and genisis of everything

[dry atlas]

i've been waiting for this

[torpid tinsel]

interesting

[dry atlas]

just wished the circumstances were different

[hoary frost]

a hard thing to do in life but worth of respecting

[tender karma]

she mentioned LSF Chaewon and Sakura?

[valid sierra]

this actually history of hybe as a whole

[mild stratus]

newjeans lore

[neon kelp]

where

[lethal hound]

she said she didnt even know they signed sakura and chawon

[opal zodiac]

shes painting a picture of how hybe has wanted to impose their will first and foremost regardless of her plans (i think)

[tiny peak]

damn this is has been brewing for a while, it sounds like she was always a second class citizen in HYBE

[acoustic valve]

the fact this stupid image has been on the screen for like 15m now, gotta make me wonder if she planned it

[sudden frigate]

Next concept 🤩

[hoary frost]

this emote is totally bang pd

[ripe mango]

hybe stocks plummeting as we speak

[ocean arch]

She's like bro u bend over backwards to me to make a gg first

[prisma ferry]

Sakura and chaewon mentioned

[arctic sky]

Deserved

[hoary frost]

its staying still rn. market is closed i think

[wet jewel]

damn shes getting emotional

[waxen musk]

emotions

[half knot]

100%, she knows her imagery planning better than anybody

[arctic sky]

Nauuurrr

[torn topaz]

she talking a lil too fast now

[sudden frigate]

DAMN

[strange venture]

you just know she feels so wronged

[half knot]

that pic looks like a caricature merchant meme, which is something people associate with bang pd...

[hoary frost]

hybe riling up armys by using bts is so nasty of them. i have lost all respect

[tiny mantle]

she spittin bars

[cerulean sail]

I'm not crying you're crying

[arctic sky]

Its hard to watch this

[waxen musk]

this emotion vs hybe "leaks"
i hope things work out

[somber pumice]

she looks so shiny

[sudden frigate]

I wanna screm, and shout, and let it all out

[mild stratus]

Min continues discussing tensions around the debut of Source Music girl group Le Sserafim. "There's a time for everything, and you never explained all this to the members and their parents, I told him. They never apologized to the parents. The parents were so angry. They blamed Source Music because they were afraid that [NewJeans] might not debut because of the Source Music girl group. I didn't want to turn my back on the trainees because I would be abandoning them. They didn't even let me see the girls."

[cerulean sail]

HYBE is evil

[acoustic valve]

Kpop GGs officially entering the world war era

[twin cypress]

Damn she really loved those girls!!!!

[stone grotto]

So what I’m hearing is she’s very headstrong on what she wants and they didn’t like that so they’re trying to get rid of it

[brazen ice]

they were doing to well at the top, time to fall😔/j

[upper geyser]

oh shes crying now i just got back

[arctic sky]

Sigh

[dry atlas]

this was pre-ador right? so the girls then were assuming they were gonna debut under BH or source?

[prisma ferry]

Hanni?

[sudden frigate]

NOOOOO SHE CRYING

[wet jewel]

jyp mentioned??

[tiny peak]

the girls 😦

[torn topaz]

she needs to breathe

[mild stratus]

"I told them that I'd take these girls because I wanted to help them debut. I wasn't stealing them." Min goes on. "I thought that making ADOR would be for the good of the girls and the shareholders. But Bang Si-hyuk said that he wouldn't let me do it unless the company held a 100 percent stake. But it was my branding and my creation. But I don't understand why. Park Ji-won tried to bridge the gap between me and Bang Si-hyuk."

[dry atlas]

park jiwon the hybe ceo

[strange venture]

not jyp

[half knot]

I hope she takes a breath, netizens in Korea can be more misogynistic than even 4chan users, and they'll call her all kinds of things like she's hysteric and all that 😦

[upper geyser]

was about to say jypapi has nothing to do with this

[brazen ice]

im guessing they assumed that they were gonna debut at source music, but since lessera was up first, they thought that they wouldnt debut at all

[opal zodiac]

they told me "dont promote Newjeans until LSRFM comes out"

[wet jewel]

oh it sounded like jyp

[tough iris]

lmao mhj has some good acting skills

[lethal hound]

No lets not go there this is FAKE news

[prisma ferry]

"I told them that I'd take these girls because I wanted to help them debut. I wasn't stealing them." Min goes on. "I thought that making ADOR would be for the good of the girls and the shareholders. But Bang Si-hyuk said that he wouldn't let me do it unless the company held a 100 percent stake. But it was my branding and my creation. But I don't understand why. Park Ji-won tried to bridge the gap between me and Bang Si-hyuk."

[tiny peak]

not aespa 😭

[ocean arch]

Is park ji won the same guy who told their employees to continue working as always or something along the line?

[upper geyser]

its either shes fr or shes trying to buy the conference

[sudden frigate]

"HAHAHHA"

[ionic furnace]

guys I missed the conference

[somber pumice]

its still happening

[brazen ice]

its still going. Check pinned for live updates

[mild stratus]

"A fight would've taken months, so I just said O.K. to the shares of the company after three months. I said that I felt like I was giving birth, and I really did. It would've been disgusting for me to say all this to the children, but I did tell the parents because they, too, were angry at HYBE. We had so much to say to HYBE. Then Park Ji-won came to us and told us not to promote NewJeans before Le Sserafim's debut, because they wanted people to think that Le Sserafim was Min Hee-jin's girl group."

[wet jewel]

bro why does this have to happen today i got a test tomorrow

[ripe mango]

the plot for this thing is interesting

[dry atlas]

yes

[opal zodiac]

(did not think this was going this long, no signs of stopping either, i have to go now bye)

[ionic furnace]

what's she talking about somebody fill me in (is what I was trynna say before I realized there was a time limit)

[tough iris]

Her cry is fake asf

[mild stratus]

thanks tikki

[hoary frost]

yes, hybe ceo. he said before in 2021-22 he supported mhj independent label idea

[quick wadi]

see you later

[ripe mango]

u guys have class isnt it high heat index rn?

[upper geyser]

this will prob go for another hour

[lethal hound]

shes in a middle of explaining the history of ador, genisis of lesserafim, and NJ and their relationship with bang pd

[ionic furnace]

Ah

[mild stratus]

as far as what mhj has told, i understand why the girls like her so much

[strange venture]

hybe ceo is crazy

[wet jewel]

high heat? not in la its cold

[twin cypress]

Hybe stans realizing that newjeans was getting screwed pre debut according to mhj

[stone grotto]

I just hope she has a point to make at the end of this. She’s painting them to look like they wanted to just use her from the start

[dry atlas]

Then Park Ji-won came to us and told us not to promote NewJeans before Le Sserafim's debut, because they wanted people to think that Le Sserafim was Min Hee-jin's girl group

this is crazy

[upper geyser]

cant wait to see what netizens will have to say soon

[strange venture]

CEO: Are you enjoying this? Hahahaha
MHJ: What are you talking about?

[nimble stream]

Dude this whole thing is so crazy

[tiny peak]

it's so icky

[lethal hound]

THIS ALL STARTED IN NOVEMBER

[valid sierra]

so bang pd was jealous of newjeans????

[hoary frost]

people back then did think it was mhj gg and plus gg stans were fighting to clarify it was not

[strange venture]

shut up

[twin cypress]

???

[upper geyser]

rip

[lethal hound]

THEY STARTED fighting over text on NOVEMBER

[timber shell]

what is happening uhhh

[mild stratus]

"Bang Si-hyuk asked me, 'You can beat aespa in December, right?' But that was never my goal." Min stands up. "I thought that he was a really generous person, but I found that he was different on the outside from how he was on the inside. I know that I look weird to him. He suddenly asked me after NewJeans released 'Ditto,' 'Are you happy? Why are you laughing? I want to know.' Why wouldn't I have been happy? Doesn't the conversation seem really weird? Our relationship had changed."

[white arch]

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-25/entertainment/kpop/LIVE-UPDATES--ADOR-CEO-Min-Heejin-press-conference/2033613

[upper geyser]

she brought the receipts

[twin cypress]

MHJ is cooking 🔥

[stone grotto]

They’re jealous mhj did what nobody at hybe could it seems. And as they want to dip their hands in it more and put their names on it, mhj is more prideful because it’s something she created

[mild stratus]

the wall of text, she fought back lol

[lethal hound]

THEY WERE FIGHTING FOR LIKE HALF A YEAR ALREADY

[waxen musk]

man i thought things were over (before press conference) but this is just makes me wonder how the hell this ends

[ripe mango]

mhj plan is basically if im goinna be painted as a bad guy im taking u down with me

[stone grotto]

So it might make complete sense they made illit to “end Newjeans” even breaking records left and right

[upper geyser]

its looking good so far but who knows if bang pd will also do a conference

[ripe mango]

the thing is bang pd is not hybe ceo anymore he stepped down like late 2021

[waxen musk]

it's still end up with he said she said until law involved

[hoary frost]

either way, feels kind of like a long shot for these two to work together again

ditto success caused cultural shift and corporate fight. thats classic ikr.

[mild stratus]

"'When the hell can we start promoting NewJeans? The reason that we separated the company was because they broke the promise and debuted Sakura first.' I went on 'Youquizz????????' because this was what I wanted to say."

[orchid field]

if hybe is shallow they can just play by the law and use whatever they can and disregard morals

[half knot]

this is more screenshots than a year's worth of dispatch execlusives lol

[hoary frost]

shameless

[torn topaz]

samsung really needs to work on the aesthetics of their applications

[strange venture]

hybe is prioritizing lesserafim, sabotaging promotions for newjeans

[ripe mango]

damn the reciepts are insane holy shit

[blissful mango]

samsung dont make the app, its kakao

[twin cypress]

So I’m assuming this is all leading up to illit being created to sabotage newjeans and steal their market share

[torn topaz]

this is kakaotalk?

[waxen musk]

ill never understand why hybe cant happily have lsf and nj and illit with no drama between them. surely more = more profit?

[tiny peak]

egos

[torpid tinsel]

they can't control nj

[twin cypress]

Cause hybe can’t control newjeans and force them to drop music

[waxen musk]

all 3 groups are so profitable and successful (even nj with less/slower releases than lsf)

[tiny peak]

right you think a public corporation would be happy with that

[torn topaz]

it sadly doesnt work that way

[upper geyser]

illit already breaking records and it hasnt even been a month since debut

[stone grotto]

Force them to drop music, drop music they don’t like or can’t have a say in. Pretty much be a manufactured group like everybody else

[ripe mango]

I think its because nj is under ador and ador is a factor that they cant control so they want ador/mhj gone

[gaunt flame]

human greed knows no limit.

[quick wadi]

someone made a 5 dollar super chat donation

[torn topaz]

its overlapping products. thats why illit and newjeans similarity was so heavily criticized

[twin cypress]

They want mhj gone to put a grunt in ador as ceo

[ripe mango]

also this ^

[dry atlas]

can you send galaxy

[stone grotto]

Hybe has been releasing too many groups without proper time and prep

[proud flax]

galaxy and rose donations when

[cinder verge]

omg i am finally level 3 i can chat here

[mild stratus]

"This doesn't make sense. It's like you're telling us that you'll meddle with our business and you want to see us do it all by ourselves. They expected nothing from us, and that's how I made NewJeans. It's like the step sisters are bullying me, but I will win."

[ripe mango]

send roses mel HAHHAHA then mhj says "thankyou for the roses"

[upper geyser]

shes bringing hybe down with her DAYUMMM

[stone grotto]

That why you have these girls so nervous to sing live

[acoustic valve]

From the receipts I'm seeing so far, it's a clash of egos and pride, BSH was far more hung up on numbers and "beating" other groups than I thought. Honestly almost like toxic kpop fans ngl

[gaunt flame]

is that a galaxy? enough of those and i might make it back to my own univ-ERSE!

[half knot]

somebody check hybe stock lol

[quick wadi]

Ban ibob

[mild stratus]

"Park Ji-won told me that I shouldn't say that NewJeans is a completely new team, because they wanted to confuse people," Min continues, still standing. "Isn't this the true breach of trust, trying to diminish the value of a subsidiary? It's like, just pushing the higher-ups. They never let me promote NewJeans as the first girl group from Min Hee-jin because they intentionally wanted to confuse people. That was all Bang Si-hyuk's doing."

[cinder verge]

guys idrk whats happening can someone just tell me if mhj is cooking or not

[ocean arch]

Oh hey u can chat now 🤣

[twin cypress]

She cooking cooking

[half knot]

I am so insanely impressed by how fast she can talk, how well she's recalling all this, and how much there is to this, AND she doesn't even have notes.

[cinder verge]

lets goooo this is good right

[ripe mango]

hybe stocks since this drama started

[twin cypress]

Ehhhhhhh idk

[half knot]

guess trading day is already closed, we'll see what happens at opening tomorrow

[tiny peak]

clown show of a company

[copper jetty]

Plunged

[shy schooner]

If she is my professor, I would be in class everyday

[quick wadi]

front seat

[cinder verge]

i mean better than her not cooking right

[mild stratus]

"Park Ji-won was told by someone, probably Bang Si-hyuk, to say all the things that he did. He's just doing his best as a paid employee. Park said 'Lets just push the announcement.' I asked him whether he wanted me to lie. He asked me to 'give him some room.' Then he kept asking me to "match" the Le Sserafim press release. Is this North Korea? He said, 'I'm just asking you as a person. It's not North Korea.' Just tell him, Bang Si-hyuk, that I'm going forward with my plan because I'm the crazy bitch. He asked me not to promote NewJeans. Is this really what should have happened? They went against common sense every single day.

[lethal hound]

FAKE NEWS look thats the last 5 days

[quick wadi]

that one is wild

[dry atlas]

1h down 9 more to go

[twin cypress]

Yea but she exposing a lot of industry secrets so i don’t know what effect it will have

[ripe mango]

ye and the news was this week no?

[upper geyser]

hey as long as she doesnt mention jypapi we good

[torpid tinsel]

ready ur money

[white arch]

she asked to a shaman

[tiny peak]

she always expressed how she hates the "competitiveness" of kpop, now I can see why

[lethal hound]

oh i thought you meant drama right now as we speak

[stone grotto]

Not the shaman!

[mild stratus]

"I told them, 'You are weird people. Do I owe you anything? I'll do what I have to,'" a sobbing Min continues. "When the investor relations team called me 'the best creator' in a memo, they told the team to get rid of 'the best.' It changed from the moment they first hired me. I didn't want to lie, but he kept telling me that it was his job to 'guide' me. We used to make jokes to each other. But now, I want to ask why they want to kick me out. When did I ever 'ask' BTS to go to the military?"

[cosmic sage]

until wut

[torn topaz]

O_O

[acoustic valve]

yeah, seeing her perspective and the receipts, I'm understandin a bit more why ador has concerns about hybe not prioritizing NJ, and possibly even sabotaging them in order to uplift other groups. There's been concerns and arguments about it ever since debut apparently

[mild stratus]

the shaman thing was true lmao

Min turns to recent allegations that she was coached by a shaman. "I asked [the shaman] because I was just so curious. How were we to plan our steps if the company's ace team was going to the military or not? I'm going to report HYBE for privacy infringement. They're censoring my messages. She is my friend. Can I not have a shaman friend?"

[cinder verge]

who tf is park ji won

[dry atlas]

hybe ceo

[rain spade]

she didn't give her laptop becuase she was making powerpoint ?

[dry atlas]

what's this now

[strange venture]

: mhjlife :

[quick wadi]

Hey guys reminder that we have how sweet pre orders live in 18 hours

[stone grotto]

Yeah hybe releasing all these details to news outlet really make it seem like they want to paint her as this evil person

[tiny peak]

i'm gonna cry

[quick wadi]

[tawdry vessel]

I dont care, i want the girls to go with her

[ripe mango]

whos is this now

[mild stratus]

Min continues discussing her shaman friend. "I had to get therapy because of HYBE," she said. "But if someone there listened to me — that was why I went to her. Don't you sometimes go? Don't you see the things that you've been doing? I'm sure they're making these attacks because they're worse in that way."

[hoary frost]

i will be preording making sure newjeans gets 3m sales

[wet jewel]

i will be the first to grab them

[ionic furnace]

Bro this is diabolical

[upper geyser]

😴

[dry atlas]

what is this chat about

[shy schooner]

Hopefully hybe still drops on the yt page

[lethal hound]

ITS AN IPHONE

[cosmic sage]

im confused can u explain

[cinder verge]

WTF IS THIS POWERPOINT

[primal sage]

I think it’s nj’s parents…

[quick wadi]

im sure they will

[upper geyser]

[opal zodiac]

she just said the girls called her and cried for 20mins when the news dropped

[wet jewel]

what

[steep torrent]

wtf

[lucid yarrow]

dam i didnt see numbers 40k

[jade cypress]

FUCKKKKK

[half knot]

fascinating, truly fascinating.

[brazen ice]

"They've been calling me and crying at night telling me that they feel so sorry for me."

[mild stratus]

"I asked Park Ji-won, were they not ashamed of all this? Park Ji-won answered, 'Revenge comes after success.' This means that he agreed that what they were doing was wrong. Bang Si-hyuk, aren't you ashamed of yourself? If I were to cut this bit of the conversation, then Park Ji-won would be the one trying to seize control. I messaged the parents that I was doing all this because NewJeans just feels like my baby. They really do. They've been calling me and crying at night telling me that they feel so sorry for me."

[dapper root]

honestly shes just a girl

[lethal hound]

text shows parents of newjeans texting her in support of MHJ

[cinder verge]

dude wtff fuck hybe bro fuck bang pd they got the girls crying man shi bouta make me cry to 😭

[strange venture]

so evil

[waxen musk]

ok so how do we get the girls out of hybe

[twin cypress]

Momma MHJ

[tiny peak]

she fought for them so hard 😭

[stone grotto]

After all this, I can really see why she was pissed they modeled illit the way they did

[cinder verge]

L HYBE

[shy schooner]

terminate

[upper solstice]

They've been calling me and crying at night telling me that they feel so sorry for me. 😭😭😭

[lethal hound]

buyout of their contract. the penalties are STeep

[steep torrent]

holy shit man fuck hybe what the actual fuck

[arctic sky]

F Hybe

[acoustic valve]

i dont know how i feel about dragging the parents into this..... but i'll see how the whole presentation plays out

[strange venture]

i'll start a fundraising to pay that contract penalty if i have to

[waxen musk]

yeah i wish they could speak for themselves

[cinder verge]

whats gonna happen to hybe

[ripe mango]

ok I know mhj is fked up but hybe is also fked up wtf is this man

[tawdry vessel]

who invited bro

[mild stratus]

"A mother of a member called me and said that I should tell my story because I'm being witch-hunted. They knew that HYBE was trying to make me the witch and Source Music the victim. I would not have made an internal report if it were about money. I can make 100 billion won [$72.8 million] without doing any of this. I'm doing this because I have to speak out. This is me. This is why I'm going through all this. Why would a mother say this? Why can I not be protected? Why do I have to be used by Park Ji-won, by Bang Si-hyuk? I did everything that I could. Everyone who's worked with me knows how I work. Do I look like such a person to you?"

[twin cypress]

I’ve said it since this started I stand with mhj because she is great to the girls!

[stone grotto]

So she was pissed they tried to make it seem like lesserafim was her group, and now that she has the hottest group right now, they want to steal her ideas for a group they can have control over

[waxen musk]

how the hell do the girls handle the comeback after this, emotionally

[lethal hound]

lawyer to the rescue

[tiny peak]

hahahahaha

[cinder verge]

ima copy the live translation and paste that shi into chat gpt and have it summarize it with main bullet points after this 😭

[sleek crest]

the hell I'm tearing up

[arctic sky]

Sad and maadddd af rn

[cinder verge]

hybe is soooo fucked up bro

[hoary frost]

hybe exposing this right before jp debut and tokyo dome....after everything, i get the timing

[drifting scaffold]

Hopefully someone does a summary

[waxen musk]

it's worth knowing every detail

[mild stratus]

#teammhj

[cinder verge]

that one girl on youtube shorts i forgot her name lol

[stone grotto]

Hopefully they both make up and let things be the way they were

[drifting scaffold]

Yeah lol

[hoary frost]

they waited their ggs to have smooth cbs and debuts and sabotaged nj plans idk. thats what i see here

[opal zodiac]

yeah i was hopeful of some kind of closure after this but this seems like just the beginning. my heart hurts so much i have to go i can't believe i have to go pick up groceries rn ....

[tiny peak]

HYBE is so obsessed with success, it's crazy

[cinder verge]

what are the chances everything goes back to the way it was before

[torn topaz]

i imagine this is a plea to either get financing to buy out ador or buy out newjeans

[quick wadi]

0

[sudden frigate]

Timing also after LSF Coachella hate train and ILLIT hate train

[stone grotto]

Hybe can sit back and collect checks while mhj does what she wants. What’s so bad about letting that continue

[hoary frost]

zero.mp3

[acoustic valve]

this is what caught me, like chill bro, u men are grown adults and billionaires, wtf you acting like stan twt

[cinder verge]

wait so illit was just made out of spite for mhj??? thats fucked that their just using these girls like pawns...

[lethal hound]

they still have to answer to shareholders who want profits

[waxen musk]

numbers go up but not up enough? it's business it's never easy to accept

[tiny peak]

it doesn't surprise me anyone, in fact they might have made it so obvious to send her a message

[half knot]

hahaha the staff laughing hahahahahaha

[rain spade]

the way she speaks so fast , she has confident

[tiny peak]

oh my god let her cook

[cinder verge]

is she cooking?

[ionic furnace]

Not something she couldve made up on the spot

[half knot]

she's throwing in light swear words in between which is what the smirks are about I guess

[torn edge]

where's jeon wick when you need him

[rain spade]

my video is not even playing bro

[lethal hound]

people laughed because the lawyer stepped in to clarify

[cinder verge]

just show picture of jeon wick and you win

[acoustic valve]

yeah, but the attitude of "We need to beat aespa next CB" is not the only way to succeed, it's just toxic and acting like stans. It may work but it's not the only way and definitely not the most healthy/sustainable way

[mild stratus]

"This is the weird thing. I can't say what I'm suffering from," Min continues. "The contradiction in the contract is that the 5 percent, of the 20 percent that I had and the 2 percent I gave to the staff, I can't sell. It's like a slave contract. 💀 I have to be bound to HYBE forever."

[hoary garnet]

Damn this is actually nuts

[ionic furnace]

Is this the downfall of HYBE

[waxen musk]

dont quite understand that last part

[twin cypress]

Free Newjeans and MHJ!

[hoary frost]

i expected better from bang pd after his seoul university speech in the past. ig everyone is same in this industry

sadly yeah

[final crane]

Guys, I saw that MHJ is at a press conference, I don't know Korean or English, but what is she saying, if someone could tell me a very short summary of what she is talking about I would appreciate it.

[buoyant hamlet]

Hybe getting exposed

[sleek crest]

are we back on Min's side ?

[twin cypress]

See pinned comments

[hoary frost]

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-04-25/entertainment/kpop/LIVE-UPDATES--ADOR-CEO-Min-Heejin-press-conference/2033613

[mild stratus]

"I do have a business mind. But I majored in art, so I don't know the contract terms. It's confusing. So a venture capitalist friend, who I know, I asked what happened with the 5 percent, and that's how I got in contact with [lawyers] Kim & Shin. Then HYBE turned that into me 'consulting an outside consultant.' But what on earth did I discuss with an investor? I could never leave HYBE, should things go there. They could starve me to death. See how they copied ILLIT? But this is my personal thought. I trusted them and signed the contract. That's how I got into this mess."

[somber pumice]

neva left 💪

[acoustic valve]

https://tenor.com/view/desmondpacito-cooking-chef-gif-12378159

[tawdry vessel]

always has been

[ionic furnace]

nah but it kills me to know that the members called mhj every night since the news drop and cried otp

[final crane]

Thanks

[waxen musk]

moreso COMPLELETLY 100000% against hybe now

[twin cypress]

I never left mhj side

[unreal stream]

Need Jeon Wick to show up to court like this

[ionic furnace]

thats actually wicked

[cinder verge]

dude this is so sad and danielle and minji had to go and take pictures and shi and act like they was happy

[torn topaz]

the business aspect is still competitive even if the fans aren't. success is judged on how they compare with the rest of the market.

[hoary frost]

my heart breaks for the members. 😢

[half knot]

have y'all seen the views on the streams? MBC one is over 60K, SBS one 90K, ytn 60K, and that's just three of the many lol, people are watching on national tv.

[dry atlas]

best case scenario if she starts a chain of whistleblowing that leads to hybe downfall

gg

[waxen musk]

oh shit so even the shit that stared all this is not what it seemed

[acoustic valve]

still only on the girls side, but i'm pretty set on fck-hybe eitherways

[arctic sky]

Did she curse tn lol

[stone grotto]

She just cursed lol

[quick wadi]

Quite literally break the k-pop industry

[odd knoll]

[cinder verge]

if hybe downfall does happen what happens to all the groupsunder hybe 😭

[ionic furnace]

FUCK HYBE THEY MADE THE MEMBERS CRY BY RELEASING THAT PUBLIC ISSUE IT COULDVE BEEN PRIVATE

[ripe mango]

hybe's downfall is gonna rough on everyone

[sudden frigate]

People misinterprating her mentioning LSFM as being a hater. SMH these people are so...

[stone grotto]

Shibal seki

[dry atlas]

she's gonna be done before jeans zine right

[arctic sky]

Hybe shipal sekiyaaa

[dry atlas]

i wanna watch messy debate

[odd knoll]

wdym this is the messy debate

[waxen musk]

this has been scheduled since april 1 (when they teased the debate)

[ionic furnace]

Hitman bang aint shit up against jeon wick

[cinder verge]

holy shittt so hybe just lied about everything?? someone please tell me if im right or wrong

[dapper root]

you should still wait for both sides to be heard

[acoustic valve]

DC gall going absolutely nuts

[hard frigate]

I wonder how hybe will respond now

[sudden frigate]

We've heard enough from HYBE for the past few days though

[ripe mango]

they didnt lie more like they gave a few truths to fit their narrative

[unkempt roost]

it's not really that HYBE lied, it's more like they framed MHJ is a very badlight that doesnt tell the whole story and MHJ is revealing it

[tiny peak]

yoooo she is not scolding them

[lethal hound]

LOL shes been ranting to park jiwon on text

[ionic furnace]

Hybe had a bunch of victimizing claims with nothing to back it up just official statements through news

[dapper root]

but thats just hybe fearmongering

[final crane]

Bye guys, good night, I hope all this can be resolved quickly before the Comeback

[dapper root]

if they can back up the claims

[tawdry vessel]

is jeoun wick on the girl's side or his boss side which is hybe

[cinder verge]

but they still lied tho right

[dapper root]

then theres something

[dry atlas]

what's the general feel

[sudden frigate]

Like all the defamation

[mild stratus]

I didn't stay silent because I'm dumb," Min says. "It's like Solomon's baby. I'm the mother. Does HYBE really care about NewJeans? NewJeans releases something tomorrow, and they do this? They're doing the shaman frame because they couldn't find any dirt on my company card. The only thing I bought was dinner for my late-night works."

[somber pumice]

morally on the girls side professionally on hybes side

[lethal hound]

who is jeon wick?

[ionic furnace]

MHJ as of right now is winning by a wide margin because her speaking at this conference isn’t something she could’ve planned prior to all of this. IT SEEMS REAL!

[quick wadi]

[brazen ice]

nj bodyguard

[sudden frigate]

Their body guard

[tawdry vessel]

the 🐐

[mild stratus]

"HYBE knew that the music video was launching," Min's attorney clarifies. "They could have been shocked, but why would they just go ahead with releasing it straight away? Do they really have the best interest of NewJeans at heart?"

[cinder verge]

they need jeon wick to beat up everyone at hybe right now!

[acoustic valve]

a bit of everything, feels like its getting brigaded by general DC trolls too

[mild stratus]

Min again. "This is so lowly. See them releasing the press release just before the press conference? There are so many bastards in this industry. I need to vent. You're depressed now, Park Ji-won? I've been depressed for 10 years now."

[stone grotto]

So park jiwon was a bang pd mole to gather dirt on her to oust her?!?!

[dry atlas]

Min's attorney adds, "You will all know that seizing control will be impossible. ADOR is doing so well financially , so it would be impossible. We have not been refuting because it doesn't make sense to."

[ionic furnace]

So the moral of the story is HYBE treats NewJeans like outsiders as opposed to groups like Le SSERAFIM is what MHJ is saying

[lethal hound]

LOL look at the RANT of a text to park jiwon hahaha

[sudden frigate]

Hype Boy mentioned? Or just HYBE?

[mild stratus]

"Park Ji-won agreed that Bang Si-hyuk bullied me. This is all on him. He tried to exploit me. I listened to Park Ji-won because I respected him. But had they captured this conversation, then this would also have been used against me. I've become a psycho in the past three days."

[ionic furnace]

HYBE IS AN L!!!

[timber shell]

hybe

[rain spade]

she's really COOKING

[dry atlas]

imagine nothing gets uploaded in HYBE LABELS at 12 midnight

[cinder verge]

thats fucked. newjeans is literally their biggest and best girl group rn if im being honest

[ripe mango]

oh so mhj basically ask a consultant to help here understand the business side and hybe was like yep she trying to take over the company

[dry atlas]

im sending trucks

[tender karma]

I am going to sleep.

[orchid field]

we

[mild stratus]

"Why can't I say what I want? Why didn't they just come to me and ask me all this?" Min laments. "They hated me and wanted to kill for making the internal report."

[tawdry vessel]

she didn't lie when she said nj's success was because of her not hybe

[sleek crest]

how is twitter

[lethal hound]

dan so it says park jiwon agreed with MHJ over text on december

[dry atlas]

i just know if im park jiwon im not reading allat

[waxen musk]

i dont even care about comeback at this point if girls are literally crying

[quick wadi]

War

[sudden frigate]

They say she's mentally unstable, they still siding with HYBE

[ionic furnace]

Nah bro L HYBE I really thought HYBE Family was locked in

[ocean arch]

Istg koreaboo is paid off by hybe

[half knot]

at this point, ballistic missiles might be the more appropriate measure

[somber pumice]

u gotta slide for haerin

[cinder verge]

im sliding for haerin hanni dani minji hyein

[dry atlas]

we are NOT getting hybe family game caterers part 2

[sudden frigate]

Not from NJ haters but NJ stans themsleves 😦

[hard frigate]

Why are the bts stans on twt so uh weird. Are they always like that?

[half knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697118849186791505/1232955000779575338/image.png

[ionic furnace]

Alright now we know hybe treats newjeans like shit

[brazen ice]

question, why would hybe be so against mhj if they hired her? like why the whole pushing nj aside

[lethal hound]

shes claiming defamation

[ripe mango]

cause money

[ionic furnace]

As she should btw I like her oh? After every sentence

[waxen musk]

control. so they can push out as much music with lsf as they want compared to nj where mhj controls that (even tho theyre successful with it)

[cinder verge]

is this the reason why nj debut happened with no advertising and just out of the blue

[sudden frigate]

Hyein idea apparently

[brazen ice]

that was said that it was planned

[lethal hound]

From the text it looks like Bang PD and MHJ were in argument for a long time (text is around november and december)

[cinder verge]

oh i was not aware...

[ionic furnace]

Whatever happened to equality in Hybe

[mild mist]

I hope not because that was a stroke of brilliance

[ionic furnace]

Shes typing up a storm in all of these messages jesus christ

[dry atlas]

how many screenshots now of just wall of text

i dont even see the replies

[waxen musk]

sorry mel i'm the yapper aka mhj

[lethal hound]

She likes to rant over text i see

[half knot]

you can see from the way she talks lol

[dry atlas]

i knew it

[cinder verge]

what is the general meaning of these texts

[ionic furnace]

LOL ON GOD SHES TYPING UP A GOD DAMN STORM AND SHES TALKING TO A WALL

[somber pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-26450094

[dry atlas]

what the

[acoustic valve]

I know one thing though: NewJeans girls would not have debuted and got the chance to chase their dreams without MHJ pushing through all the bullshit in debut era, and for that I'll at least always be grateful for her

[quick wadi]

Its not even like its one big message

its constant sending and typing

[ionic furnace]

Nah bro hybe staffs are actually an L for this. No reply is CRAZY

[white arch]

my head is already hurting

[jade cypress]

NO MHJ NO DITTO

[waxen musk]

yeah i only see nj support mhj. everything i said about mhj emotionally manipulating them in previous days i can disregard. EVERYTHING she says now explains even greater than before why mhj are so important to the girls.

[cinder verge]

NO MHJ NO NJ

[lucid yarrow]

wow almost at 50k

[blissful mango]

no mhj nj wouldnt even exist

[torn topaz]

need more hecklers in the crowd

[ionic furnace]

Bro BTS better come back from the military and put some sense into these staff members heads

[sudden frigate]

Same

[lethal hound]

LOL she stopped short after mentioning 16 million dollar investment (from hybe)LOL

[ionic furnace]

now that i look at it, hybe painted mhj as the villain

[prisma ferry]

FUCK HYBE

[tiny peak]

she killed that water, hope the bladder is okay

[acoustic valve]

learning about how toxic and power-driven BSH is, I wouldn't be surprised if BTS members are in similar situations to NJ in regards to the actual politics going on behind the scenes. I guess they'll always be fine as long as they're in BSH's good books

[ionic furnace]

like bro how can a multi millionaire dollar company be this unresponsive when it comes to staff communication

[tiny peak]

she has no filter

[drifting scaffold]

This is nuts

[hoary garnet]

Dayum

[half knot]

let her talk, more she talks, the better this gets

[lethal hound]

Okay from what she showed it looks like they were argueing for a long time and hybe tried burying her

[valid sierra]

crazy flex

[shy schooner]

This is her last time being able to talk like this

[hoary frost]

i support this. say it all. vent it

[steep torrent]

from being on the edge of not debuting to being one of the most succesful kpop groups in the world. no wonder the girls love her so much

[hoary frost]

she is a fighter nfnsmdkdkkd

[lethal hound]

indirect threat that she knows secrets to take down hybe

[shy schooner]

Girls definitely will be on mhj side

[hoary garnet]

MHJ actually going brazy, totally changed my opinion

[acoustic valve]

not surprising, investing is all about acting like vultures, find potential assets when they're at their lowest point so you get a good deal

[tiny peak]

she would fight anyone for them

[ionic furnace]

Worst part about all of this is that the members and maybe even their parents are watching this (the mhj conference) and bawling their eyes out

[waxen musk]

they have been already

[cinder verge]

holy shit dont make me think about that

[arctic sky]

Now its our turn to defend her the best we can

[half knot]

but that means they'll be on her side, nobody could look at this kind of fighting on their behalf and side with the soulless corporation...

[neon kelp]

fr
no more hate on mhj

[acoustic valve]

watch people try to spin this as mhj gaslighting NJ and their family, or that NJ and their family is evil. The Hybe media play will go on overdrive

[cinder verge]

can mhj take any legitimite legal action against hybe

[shy schooner]

Hybe stans for sure

[tawdry vessel]

nj and mhj welcome to sm entertainment

[ionic furnace]

Yes she can

[half knot]

big 4 aren't the only big money out there, korea is small in the grand scheme of things

[ionic furnace]

but I feel like u can get away with anything as long as u have money and thats exactly what hybe has

[shy schooner]

Going to be a long legal battle

[torn topaz]

im ready to hear the other side of the story tomorrow. there's some details in mhj's story that im hesitant to believe

[half knot]

investors from SEA, Japan and even the US will try to give her money.

[sudden frigate]

Saudi PIF too

[lethal hound]

Saudi fund and singapore fund were mentioned

[half knot]

it depends really on their contracts, sometimes it's just debt + fixed termination fee rather than a flexible one based on time remaining

[tiny peak]

hahahahahhaa

[acoustic valve]

i mean yeah, if mhj can defend herself even halfway decently, and leave this ordeal relatively unscathed (even if she is booted from ador). I'm sure investors will line up

[cinder verge]

wait whats happening? are you guys saying that nj will try to pay to break contract?

[acoustic valve]

nobody knows, personally I don't think it's likely. but we'll see

[steep torrent]

eta was a diss
https://x.com/sowjeans/status/1783397784806383939

｡❍🫧 (@sowjeans) on X

“boys be always lying” THIS WAS A DISS TRACK

Twitter · Apr 25, 2024, 7:29 AM

[lethal hound]

It also depends on expected revenue

[white arch]

the things she saying is wild

[cinder verge]

YOOOO

[valid sierra]

FUCK JIWON

[sudden frigate]

Jiwon Park?

[acoustic valve]

so Hyejin = Heejin....

[half knot]

that really depends on whether expected revenue was written as a termination condition/penalty in the contract or not

[steep torrent]

this is so crazy mann

[dry atlas]

Why do we need to be damaged because of HYBE? I want to sue HYBE. They told me to hand in my laptop yesterday then disclosed a different date from others.

if this is true, mediaplay is crazy

[lethal hound]

true but most kpop contracts they include those

[sudden frigate]

Mind blown

[acoustic valve]

god damn, NJ WAS IN THE DISS TRACK TREND BEFORE IT EVEN WENT MAINSTREAM, TRULY VISIONARIES

[torn topaz]

i'd have to assume this press conference is because they're seeking funding to buy out ador. otherwise, this is someone dramatically being fired.

[acoustic valve]

I think she knows this is the end, she's just getting everything off her chest and giving no fs

[ripe mango]

I heard illit what ddid she say?

[lethal hound]

Also btw korea has a fair trade commission that lays out contract standards so its universal in korea

[waxen musk]

aish

[half knot]

true but they also exclude artist contracts from that

[lethal hound]

....no its FOR artist with exclusive contract

[half knot]

same for certain labor laws surrounding entertainers

[lethal hound]

According to the Fair Trade Commission's standard exclusive contract, the penalty is calculated as the average monthly sales for the previous two years as of the time of contract termination multiplied by the number of months remaining in the contract. please fact check me

[waxen musk]

is she mentioning "random photocards"?

[arctic sky]

Yes

[acoustic valve]

and depending on how the girls and their parents feel about this; this could also be for their sake. If these sentiments are truly how they feel, I'm sure they would want this perspective to be delivered to the world as well. Rather than quietly suffering under Hybe without anyone in their corner for another 5 years

[unkempt roost]

She said it's not ILLIT's / LSRFM's members fault which I appreciate, and that she wasn't trying to paint a bad picture towards those groups

it's all HYBE management

[waxen musk]

this is a 5050 situation POTENTIALLY (with lots of differences) but yeah at least she's trying to get the support and sympathy for the girls at the start

[hoary frost]

yeah, she should say this more. these young girls are victims of greed and ambitions

[unkempt roost]

All the girls vs HYBE pls

[lucid yarrow]

yeah i dont think she cares about money she just doing her dream job she prob going quit get out this mess up culture and work a farm or something who knows

[buoyant hamlet]

Music video released tomorrow?

[waxen musk]

lol yeah

[sudden frigate]

2 days time

[tawdry vessel]

-schedule

[tall dew]

Use >schedule

[waxen musk]

depends on time zone but yeah 1 day + 7 hours

[fast cobalt]

Awokwkwkwkwkwkw

[lucid yarrow]

i wonder i this will get to 100k

[acoustic valve]

yeah, for her mental health I hope she does. But she also has astronomical ego and pride, I don't rule out her accepting some big investors after all this to start again

[cinder verge]

nah sentient ahh bot 😭😭

[ripe mango]

hi @unkempt roost

[unkempt roost]

ayyy

[sudden frigate]

Gotta eat some samgyeopsal after this

[neon kelp]

FR

[lethal hound]

No we were talking in theory if saudi invests

[half knot]

she's been going for almost 2 hours...

[acoustic valve]

i knew jiwon was a fukboi ever since i heard the name in ETA

[rain spade]

Let her coooook

[ripe mango]

oh reporters asking now?

[sudden frigate]

She got another bottle of water

[neon kelp]

I know now jiwon is a bad news

[dry atlas]

oh mhj did the dani

[torn topaz]

she struggled to drink water

[tawdry vessel]

oketiyoo

[nimble stream]

Shes a water struggler?

[tiny peak]

i want to cry ... she keeps complimenting the girls

[sudden frigate]

What did she sayyy?

[hoary frost]

what is she saying now?

[arctic sky]

Im so emotional rn

[waxen musk]

i dont even know what she's saying but girls' name + crying just it's i cant even imagine

[timber shell]

i alr gave up watching

[lethal hound]

So in theory if ADOR wants independence, investor needs to invest 100 million$ USD or more just by calculating their sales from last year

[sudden frigate]

She crying again 😦 talking about the girls?

[hoary frost]

omfggg im gonna cry 😭

[arctic sky]

Talking abt girls

[brazen ice]

Yonhap asks. "How are the members?"

[unkempt roost]

man

[tiny peak]

she keeps saying how good and kind they are and thoughtful

[sudden frigate]

NOOO MHJ NOOO

[ionic furnace]

She doesn’t wanna lose her job

[nimble stream]

Why

[unkempt roost]

hyein wanted to go on phoning live to support her

[haughty rampart]

[cinder verge]

bro... im crying 😢

[arctic sky]

Hyein best maknae fr

[ionic furnace]

Losing her job = distancing with the members

[high nebula]

[fast cobalt]

☝️☝️

[lethal hound]

another indirect threat of her suing for defamation

[neon kelp]

guys what the freak
people paying 2000 on mhj's live stream

[half knot]

that genuinely seems like something hyein would want to do, we've seen her defense mode stuff on livestreams before

[dry atlas]

DONT LEAVE ME HANGING

[high nebula]

sorry for askin, where can i watch the live?

[dry atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZZZDNOKbwQ

[neon kelp]

pinned message

[brazen ice]

Haerin cried for 20 whole minutes ☹️

[cinder verge]

can someone break down all the bad shit hybe has done like briefly

[high nebula]

thank you ❤️

[dry atlas]

[lethal hound]

MHJ and Bang PD been fighting for long time. She showed her rant of a text to Park Jiwon that occured on november and dcember of last year to the public

[waxen musk]

well now im crying

[gilded tapir]

i'm crying too

[high nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-cute-gif-25985192

[tawdry vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-vince-mcmahon-meme-vince-no-no-no-way-gif-7797789826061351147

[neon kelp]

what was that?

[cinder verge]

im like new to kpop does this kind of thing happen often 😭😭

[waxen musk]

camera / mic gonna run out of battery at this rate

[acoustic valve]

no...

[short laurel]

drama happens daily in kpop but this one is too extreme

[tiny mantle]

Haerin

[hoary frost]

im crying rn poor girls

[fast cobalt]

Fr

[arctic sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-crying-cry-tears-sad-gif-15565723

[nimble stream]

Dang I couldnt focus on lesson at all its too emotional

[mild mist]

Funnily enough, it does not

[acoustic valve]

kinda a watershed moment in getting to know the dirty political underside of kpop, usually corporate beef is kept secret, even if fans have their own theories

[lethal hound]

5050 anyone?

[valid sierra]

dani and minji going to those events must have been very hard. Thank you for enduring everything newjeans jjang!!!!

[waxen musk]

oh wow yeah STILL going ahead with comeback like they said earlier but it's just unimaginable for the girls

[dry atlas]

[ionic furnace]

How do I write a fucking complaint to hybe

[nimble stream]

This could be a dawn of new era in kpop ill tell you what

[tender karma]

Dani with a smile on her face...

[chrome trout]

I cant believe they would try to sabotage the girls like tf

[waxen musk]

dani is very special in that she can seem completely genuine in seeing her fans. even if she's faking it, i cant beleive it she has me believing her ability to spread joy no matter what.

[cinder verge]

i hate that i dont really understand whats happening 😭😭😭 can someone summarize in like 3 sentences

[quick wadi]

please just look at pinned like we have said

[sudden frigate]

People twisting her words, they making it like MHJ hates Le Sserafim

[pulsar steeple]

[short laurel]

interview still on going so wait for summery to come much later.

[mild mist]

She's a professional

[sudden frigate]

Dani's a tough cookie

[tiny peak]

she's getting into the politics

[orchid field]

thats alot of swearing hahah

[hoary frost]

[twin cypress]

Hybe had haerin crying for 20 minutes now im mad

[hoary frost]

hybe saying they will offer psychological counseling to newjeans when they did all this to them. just evil

[buoyant hamlet]

It's just people Hybe paid to trash her publically

[tiny peak]

that sounded so weird, like re-education

[sudden frigate]

It's the stans themselves.

[hoary frost]

right. its so weird

[waxen musk]

was already angry but bringing that up again is just some of the most fucked thing ive ever heard about people i care about

[dry atlas]

is anyone refreshing naver

are there new articles

not form press con

[waxen musk]

i'm sticking to here until its over then i'll read translation, then whatever comes after that

[mild stratus]

now it makes sense they offered emotional and psychological help for the members out of the blue

[lethal hound]

HAVE you seen Straight outta compton?!?!? this happens in hollywood ALL THE TIME

[hoary frost]

they dont even want to meet newjeans parents? where is sincerity?

[lethal hound]

Lil wayne and cash money record label beef?!?!

[fast cobalt]

What

[acoustic valve]

oh so dirty....

[tiny peak]

oh my god she's spilling too much

[waxen musk]

and yeah ive never so strongly felt children shouldnt be involved in this. i always agreed with that stance but now i feel guilty of supporting it. it's too late now for nj i'll support them.

[gaunt flame]

thank you for your support

[buoyant hamlet]

They said they wont even talk to them, only to ADOR

[hoary frost]

are they commodities? im so mad

[ionic furnace]

How much is a protest truck everyone

[dry atlas]

when she says it out loud, the "formula"

i get it

[copper jetty]

I'll donate

[tiny peak]

this industry seems all about control, they don't want parents involved

[hoary frost]

it be like that, unfortunately

[neon kelp]

I'II crash that truck into their building