NJZ Updates and Discussion

[dry atlas]

Tim don't hate me ok

Stop it

[acoustic valve]

yeah, but also like just general wide-reaching in terms of gp awareness

[shy schooner]

Please not be the last bday live

[kind hill]

i love u mel

[dry atlas]

Thanks not opps timzicles

[waxen musk]

i dont think itll come to this but i was wondering if under their contract they're able to do their own live on ig if they ever wanted to randomly one day

[hoary frost]

we should brace ourselves bc all kind of accusations will come out to paint other party as bad

i can only hope that nj wont be affected

dispatch already parroting hybe narratives lol

[mild mist]

RLF always affects the artists, it's unavoidable

[unkempt roost]

"Accordingly, Adore announced an official position after sufficient discussion with NewJeans members and legal representatives." This is from ador's statement that kinda relates to this (full statement: https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/003/0012506210)

[brazen ice]

oh thats

[waxen musk]

i just cant see how this gets resolved peacfully. sounds like mhj wants compensation and hybe say eff off instead you can go bye bye.

pls someone tell me how to peacfully resolve lol i cant see it

[kind hill]

this server will never be my opps... can i be neutral

[quick wadi]

absolutely not

[kind hill]

wow

okay

[mild mist]

It comes down to who has the receipts but I don't think anyone can 'win'

[dry atlas]

pick a side

[unreal stream]

It would be pretty funny if they collabed for a magnetic dance challenge this week

[hoary frost]

im just worried for nj. if they take mhj stance and hybe uses everything to defame mhj, nj reputation might take hit based on gp opinions. thats what happened to 5050.

[kind hill]

that hurts tim

[brazen ice]

hilarious actually

[mild mist]

Only if you move to Switzerland

[quick wadi]

😸 can’t be both sides

[left crow]

Someone put an emote of a person eating popcorn, coz this is all I am doing right now while I’m getting paid sitting down in a comfy ass chair

[shy schooner]

I think some brands will drop NJ because of mhj scandal

[unkempt roost]

i dont think any sane person would engineer a full blown public corporate fallout in order to cover for 2 online controversies that are mostly limited to online lifeless netizens arguing

[brazen ice]

with that stamement, i think nj members are with mhj?

[quick wadi]

[hoary frost]

i think brands are least of our worries rn

[hoary frost]

yeah

[left crow]

Tim so fast

[waxen musk]

"emotional cultivation"

[brazen ice]

we just might be cooked🔥

[waxen musk]

i've coined a new term

[unkempt roost]

man

[waxen musk]

woman

[unkempt roost]

this really is the worst outcome possible

everyone loses

[waxen musk]

again, i just need someone to tell me how this all resolves itself as best as possible. i really need that.

[dry atlas]

I'm switching to baemon

[lucid yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-1750056094467610487

[dry atlas]

bye guys

[waxen musk]

have fun

[acoustic valve]

dragging the girls into it was not ideal...

[kind hill]

tim is mel opps now

[tiny peak]

wait until Baemon and the new BL group start feuding

[brazen ice]

yeah i think youre gonna get controversy with baemon as well lmao

[waxen musk]

ngl if nj somehow vanish of the planet due to supernatural forces ill still be listening to their 30 mins of songs almost every day. never got bored of those songs.

[left crow]

Well at the end of the tunnel, all I’m thinking about is what will newjeans do after everything gets resolved with whatever outcome happens in this watchamacalit

[waxen musk]

to me it sounds like nj members+mhj are inseperable

which is a problem. the main problem for hybe.

[lucid yarrow]

does babymonster have beef with black pink?

[kind hill]

no

[shy schooner]

No

[brazen ice]

there is unfortunately, a possibilty that nj think illit copied them?

[left crow]

Well they got a mind of their own, so I’m supporting newjeans regardless

[dry atlas]

you think mhj is in her office in hybe hq typing that shit out

[tiny peak]

well (not to drag ILLIT) but 99% people thought that

[dry atlas]

kinda awkward

[acoustic valve]

yeah life is long and this will blow over soon, theyll still have everything theyve done

[dry atlas]

yeah they mentioned in the article

[unreal stream]

BlackPink got beef with a recording studio rn

[dry atlas]

not nj per se, but ADOR. read the latest article

[waxen musk]

it's such a common opinion but i feel it's more from people not stanning either group, just general oh super shy reminds me of magentic. (they dont think about the various other nj songs)

[unkempt roost]

lets name it mhj thinks hybe + belift went with a concept which copied nwjns, it's not that nj themselves think that way

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/newjidot/status/1782335932496240829

🐰 (@newjidot) on X

i would be mad too, imagine being told your gg's concept is too plain and not gonna hit in gp, but now, it became successful, they're scrapping your ideas for their new gg

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 9:09 AM

[tiny mantle]

Lol

[unkempt roost]

keep the girls out of the equation as much as possible

[waxen musk]

it's business lol

it makes sense to copy what's successful

[acoustic valve]

bpthey got more beef than oklahoma on any given day of the week

[waxen musk]

it's creatively boring as hell but is it a crime?

no, mhj should not care

[tiny peak]

yeah they weren't necessarily trying to drag ILLIT, but they just couldn't help it looking at the teasers and photo shoots and such

[hoary frost]

yeah, i mean girls do not make concept. directors do. they follow whats been made. its not their fault

it is not attempt to drag or shade illit, but calling out unfair practice of fellow sub label

https://x.com/nwjnsbts/status/1782349969766121597 what is happening.

[waxen musk]

anyway i thought mhj was saying to expect new things from them all the time. if they are being copied for what nj did in the past, then whatever new things they do, there'll always be a lag between that and them getting copied

[clear sentinel]

i hate being a multi

[waxen musk]

?

[unkempt roost]

i mean imo MHJ is fully justified to raise her concern if that's what she thinks (regardless of what the rest of us thinks)

[acoustic valve]

in any case, taking sides on this is kinda pointless, what will happen will happen according to the legal process it seems like at this stage... just get rdy to be there for the girls afterwards wtva happens

[waxen musk]

im just trying to understand how strongly she can feel this way because me personally i dont get it it seems petty

[tiny peak]

exactly I'm so disappointed in this response

[hoary frost]

yeah, after all she is insider, directly involved person and knows whats been happening better than us

i hope there will be clarification of claims that they leaked confidential info. or every hybe fandom gonna claim all their faves controversies was made by mhj

[acoustic valve]

i mean, it's also likely she indeed was meeting with investors and planning to take management rights from hybe, but she cant say that out loud and this was the best response they could think up at this stage

[hoary frost]

agreed

[acoustic valve]

since they obvs can't admit they were indeed doing the thing they explicitly should not be doing

[hoary frost]

i mean is it crime to meet investors?

leaking info is crime yes

that should be dealt with

[mild mist]

Probably not a crime
Probably a breach of contract

[unkempt roost]

it's more of a breach of trust than anything

(im not a lawyer)

[hoary frost]

yeah

me neither fjfjf we dont know what their contracts are about or whether hybe allows investing

[dry atlas]

https://twitter.com/tikkitokki22/status/1782356973511696721?t=BUZmdQ2K3cmay33PdCGV4w&s=19

TikkiTokki (@tikkitokki22) on X

Another quick birthday sub😎

Things are a bit of a mess right now but I hope this helps people take their minds off things

The only people we should be standing behind are Kim Minji, Pham Hanni, Danielle Marsh, Kang Haerin and Lee Hyein💙

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 10:33 AM

tikkitokki keeping it real

[waxen musk]

and jeon wick

[acoustic valve]

depends on her contract, but it probably does break it in some way, whether its a crime is a whole other matter

[gleaming scarab]

[left crow]

I mean been keeping it real since 722

[shy schooner]

As long as jeon wick is still there

[left crow]

1st one to say to say it other than tikki

[waxen musk]

i think jeon wick might be on the hybe side

what happens if we go against hybe, does that mena jeon wick is enemy

i cant let that happen

[vagrant marlin]

https://x.com/nwjnsbts/status/1782361598058692642

[unkempt roost]

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/nwjnsbts/status/1782350980379508959

☘︎ (@nwjnsbts) on X

nah cuz everyone rmb how hybe had zero confidence with NewJeans debut concept and thought Attention would flop. ADOR and Mhj tho still went forward with it and it was successful.

Hybe/belift 2ys later plagiarized good amount of it but when confronted, launched audit on ADOR..

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 10:09 AM

[left crow]

Wait I thought jeon wick is hired by mhj?

[hoary frost]

guys i stand with MHJ.

[shy schooner]

By hybe

[valid sierra]

*x -c https://twitter.com/modaniverse/status/1782360181281849541
damn, knowing how emotional dani is, things must be very tough behind that smile

[waxen musk]

nah he works for hybe for sure. does security for fromis and other hybe groups some other times in the past.

[harsh dove]

@modaniverse <t:1713782756:d>

NewJeans DANIELLE has safely arrived in Taiwan

#뉴진스 #NewJeans #다니엘 #Danielle #ダニエル

[left crow]

Ahh

Oh speaking of Taiwan, I’m hit up my friend who’s currently there eating every food he can find lmao

[quick wadi]

I would do that too

[vale grove]

This is stressing me out so bad

[cyan rivet]

What is this

[vale grove]

Wether or not people hate or love her she literally made NewJeans the powerhouse that they are.

[kind hill]

theres new articles

[kind hill]

mhj vs hybe n belift

[rose turret]

-newjeanslife

[tall dew]

[cyan rivet]

Oh

[ashen charm]

5 days before the comeback also ..

[vale grove]

I'm mostly pissed off by this, hybe had no confidence in mhj and her work with the group and now she's being asked to leave. Idk the situation much rn and I'm stressed out but like that must be so insulting to have your creation that you worked for years to have being ripped from you. Newjeans as a concept is hers.

[cyan rivet]

It will be just mv?

[sudden frigate]

New info from Dispatch

I'm so done

[frigid mason]

Link?

[ashen charm]

Yeah

[sudden frigate]

https://www.dispatch.co.kr/2289124

[vagrant marlin]

https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1782361228632797623

[unkempt roost]

nothing new in this article

[cyan rivet]

Wait

What?

[white arch]

So what happend now? Y was sleeping

[cyan rivet]

Mhj going to be leave?

[ashen charm]

Mhj has to leave no expectation

[cyan rivet]

Whaaat the fuck

[vale grove]

Is there a way NewJeans could operate outside of hybe?

I'm so actually upset right now

[unkempt roost]

i suggest to go through the pinned comments and read the articles for yourself to make a judgment

[ashen charm]

No because if they were sued they wouldn't survive the debt

[frigid mason]

A friendly reminder to everyone to not spread mis-information. The situation is still on going and making judgements that mhj will leave when nothing has been done yet will cause a lot of confusion.

[cyan rivet]

Ohh i see

[quick wadi]

https://x.com/markjp1008/status/1782365842128458192?s=46&t=VsbvELkNCgirMw8_X5n2-Q

Mark (@MarkJP1008) on X

ADOR statement:

Ador's official position on ‘ILLITs NewJeans copy incident’

Hello.

This is Ador Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as ‘Ador’, CEO Min Hee-jin).

In order to protect its artist, NewJeans, and for the healthy development of our country's music industry and…

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 11:08 AM

[sudden frigate]

Wait, official statement from ADOR? 💀

[cyan rivet]

I just saw korean article

Now i understand

[unkempt roost]

we've been talking about the official statement for quite awhile now lol

[cyan rivet]

Oh i can explane this situation in two word

[tiny peak]

every company has been copying newjeans, and it brings good results, to play devil's advocate I don't see what the issue is, HYBE exists to make money now

[kind hill]

LOL

[sleek crest]

woah im anxious

[ocean arch]

Did mhj really say illit plagiarized nj ?

[unkempt roost]

i really hope your thoughts are a lot more nuanced than that lol

[drowsy crypt]

In my opinion, there is no connection between the copy of the NewJeans concept and the ILLIT concept

[vale grove]

I'm a bit confused from what the translation made it seem like she was demanded to leave the company

[cyan rivet]

[sudden frigate]

Our poor girls caught in the crossfire. My heart will break if they're significantly, negatively impacted from this 😓

[tiny peak]

i interpreted it that she puts most of the blame on BigHit + BangPD, and not so much Belift

[hoary frost]

im worried bc of public opinion is fickle and worried that nj will be dragged into mess more than ever

[brazen ice]

fr said on ALL entertainment activities

[cyan rivet]

Ilit? I didn't even know what this was

Eyelit?

[vale grove]

In my opinion, while no one can be sure that illits concept was directly inspired by NewJeans you can see the inspiration coming from their styling choices. I've always kept my option on them low-key because I do like the illit girls (currently own their album). But it's easy to see how influenced they are by NewJeans. But to be fair the whole INDUSTRY is influenced by NewJeans right now

[steel mason]

aint hear of illit till now respectfully

[vale grove]

That's how you pronounce it no?

[vale grove]

Have you heard the song magnetic

[steel mason]

nah

[tiny peak]

exactly, the whole INDUSTRY is following newjeans

[cyan rivet]

I don't know how to write a.. that group

[brazen ice]

ye thats what im saying, like theyre following a trend. I remember people saying "nj copies" to literally anyone with a slight y2k vibe

[hoary frost]

ig theyre annoyed bc knetz said its okay if its similar bc they are under same label.

[ashen charm]

So to be clear hybe gave mhj 15m to start new jeans and she went on and tried to make ador independent?

[brazen ice]

mhj is denying this tho

[hoary frost]

in reality, their concept isnt something made by ador or anything but there is image overlap

[vale grove]

People are saying they are copying NewJeans because NewJeans influenced them and they all have the same target audience

[tiny peak]

i I was actually surprised with ILLIT's debut concept, for some reason after watching RUNext I thought it was going to be very different, like Twice or IVE

[hoary frost]

i think thats the point. kpop is oversaturated and fast paced industry. nj and illit image and audience overlaps too much

there is no such overlap between lsfm and nj

[ashen charm]

Damn well see its just allegations as of now

[vale grove]

I agree then

[unkempt roost]

and this is why i said this is the worst outcome, now that the discussion will be about illit copying newjeans instead of the corporate dog fight betweeen ador and hybe

[vale grove]

Okay, so. Is mhj being forced to leave as of right now? I need confirmation

[ocean arch]

Damn shots fired.this won't end well

[hoary frost]

i understand concerns and tbh why it rubbed them wrong way but i wish they dealt it more civil way instead of airing everything in media

[vale grove]

Kpop version of the 90s boyband drama 😭

[sudden frigate]

You know the saying, displaying dirty laundry something something

[hoary frost]

yes

[unkempt roost]

no, all hybe has done is begin an internal audit to see if MHJ conspired to go independent

[sudden frigate]

LMAO "yes" "no"

[hoary frost]

hybe wants her to resign

needs board of directors approval

[steep torrent]

is the whole min heejin leaking stuff 100% confirmed?

[unkempt roost]

.....

[hoary frost]

no

[unkempt roost]

NO it's not confirmed

[steep torrent]

thats why they are calling the shareholder meeting right

[hoary frost]

audit results will confirm it or deny it

[rain spade]

[tiny peak]

if I was a shareholder I'd be pissed

[steep torrent]

seeing everyone use her as a scapegoat for all the hate hybe groups are getting..

[hoary frost]

id be pissed if i was nj member

[cyan rivet]

I was been timeouted cuz i tried to say hybe is bit--

[torn edge]

yooo is this start since ADOR filing the plagiarism on them?

[brazen ice]

im pissed as a bunny💀

[unkempt roost]

oh god.....

[unkempt roost]

no.....

[hoary frost]

plagiarism thing is just issue that arose between bang pd and mhj and started conflict

[vale grove]

Bro I'm so stressed out. If we lose mhj we lose the ENTIRE reason why I fell for NewJeans

[torn edge]

man i mean she's literally making newjeans this much in the past 2yrs right?

[ashen charm]

Mhj should've stayed as creative director not ceo she has to much greed and the girls are paying the price :/

[torn edge]

god

[torn edge]

this tho

[vale grove]

Mhj is very prideful which could be her downfall

I don't want the girls to get hurt because of this

[brazen ice]

yeah i feel like theres too much ego involved

[torn edge]

why i sense it will damage the comeback :((((

[frigid mason]

TLDR for those unaware:
MHJ is accusing Hybe (She specifically mentions Bang Si-hyuk) and Belyft labs of plagiarising Newjeans with Illit. There has been a lot of online talk of Illit being heavily influenced/inspired by NewJeans, MHJ explains that it causes damage to the perception towards Ador and Newjeans as they are not affiliated with one another despite being under the same Hybe Umbrella. She denies that she is trying to go Independent with Ador and that it was mediaplay.

Hybe is conducting an Audit on Ador on suspicious activity that may violate their contract/Artist Privacy to see if any misconduct was established to secretly make Ador independent/buy out Hybe shares. Hybe is requesting MHJ to dismiss and resign from her role as CEO.

MHJ explains she sent an email last week towards hybe to talk about the Plagiarism impact between Illit and Newjeans, and instead got ignored. She claims that Hybe and Belyft have refused to discuss and find a solution and decided to oust her instead.

Friendly reminder to everyone, as the situation is very complex. Let's not jump to conclusions or spread misinformation on things that are currently unfolding.

[torn edge]

omfg i hate business when it come to things like this

[vale grove]

I'm wondering if this move is calculated for the comback

[kind hill]

pin this

[vale grove]

Being delulu and pretending this is all shock media for the comeback makes me feel at ease so I'm gonna pretend this isn't happening 😁

[sudden frigate]

This. I cannot, I cannot handle this.

[sleek crest]

RRAAFGGRGHHRHHHJ😾😾😾😾😾

[hoary frost]

Pray for newjeans 🥲

[brazen ice]

this might need a pin

[unkempt roost]

thank you for this

[sleek crest]

AAERGRGDGDHHFBDHDDHHDHDJFJDJDJDJDNFNFJFJ😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾😾

[cyan rivet]

Me too

[vale grove]

???

[sudden frigate]

Hmmm, sus timing right?

[cyan rivet]

I hope ADOR will win the judge

[torn edge]

i'm trying not to jump into any conclusions or speculations. but all the media play and information including dispatch are just W H A A A T

[glossy beacon]

oh my god i hope this ends well 😭

[torn edge]

RIGHTT

[vale grove]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking of to keep me calm

[torn edge]

I JUST CONCERNED FOR THEIR COMEBACK

and the bunnies camp v2 as well

[steel mason]

literally the worst possible timing

[tiny peak]

or ... HYBE is confident they have their "new newjeans" now and are trying to sabotage ADOR/NewJeans going forward

[vale grove]

dude

[brazen ice]

dont think so

[torn edge]

this one is speculation

[vale grove]

That's scary

[tiny peak]

sorry, I meant it as wild speculation

[steel mason]

that would be the dumbest ish ever ngl

[tiny peak]

as far as why the timing is so bad

[torn edge]

too wild

[brazen ice]

they might try to take ador down but theyd keep nj

[torn edge]

possible

but wild af

[tiny peak]

it would be stupid financially, yes, but this could be a completely idiotic Ego battle

[steel mason]

newjeans is still a newish group that got huge success and theres so much to capitalize on so it would just be foolish to make a move that risky

[vale grove]

If we lose mhj for NewJeans do you think we will revert back to the concept the group had for debut just because of it's success ?

[cobalt flicker]

Claiming ILLIT to be similar when over the years, there are multiple groups with similar concepts debuting in the industry 🤔🤔🤔

[vale grove]

Because I don't see any desire for artistic growth, just greed

[steep torrent]

seeing so many people bring up an illit member leaving being mhjs fault when nothing is confirmed is so annoying

[torn edge]

i rather them disbanded rather being keep under hybe or other beside MHJ. bro NJ concept group already good and different from others. I MEAN LOOK AT ME. I USED TO HATED KPOP. yet here I am with you guys right now

[cyan rivet]

Plz say this is all fake and today is april fool

[vale grove]

Who said this, mhj isn't even involved with them 🥹

[brazen ice]

its crazy how much mhj claims that illit is copying. Ador is saying literally full on plagiarising

[vale grove]

It's not 😦

[torn edge]

its 22 so no kekw

[steel mason]

i wouldnt have hope for the group if mhj was fired

[cyan rivet]

Hahahajahahahaahahahaahahahaahahaahhahaahahahaa

[vale grove]

I feel like such a fake fan for saying I feel the same

[torn edge]

me too

[ocean arch]

Because they are both under Hybe and BSH allowed it to happen

[torn edge]

probably i will back hating kpop

[cyan rivet]

No i think it's just prank hehe

[steel mason]

dont have to feel fake, it has nothing to do with the members as they. have no control over any of this

[vale grove]

I mean I'm always going to love NewJeans. I'm just gonna hope the same producers of the music stick around

[tiny peak]

yeah I think she's taking offense to that, didn't feel like she got an adequete response?

[cyan rivet]

Surprise event for us who are bored waiting for a comeback

[cyan rivet]

All explaned lol

[ocean arch]

The response she got is this audit thing lmao

[torn edge]

bruh but not with this cardio exercise

[steel mason]

would prefer new music over drama smh

[steep torrent]

truly believe this accusation of leaking stuff is hybe media play but we'll have to see

[torn edge]

yea right

[vale grove]

Okay, that's a valid point. I still am feeling sad.

[left crow]

[hoary frost]

we need bernice emote with popcorn

[tiny peak]

i was feeling the same way when I first heard the news, like imagining newjeans under soulless direction of HYBE was depressing me quite a bit

[ashen charm]

Hybe wouldn't call out mhj if they had no proof ...

[cobalt flicker]

So it is not possible for two groups with similar concepts debuting under one umbrella? Each has their own dedicated fandoms for sure.

Look at YG, honestly I feel their gg are similar in vibes

[vale grove]

Now we all understand this is going to put a halt for the production of mhjs new boy group

[torn edge]

pls mods

[vale grove]

So there's that too

[left crow]

While everyone is serious, the world won’t stop for a second. Newjeans all the way. That’s how dedicated I am to this group.

[tiny peak]

i was so looking forward to MHJ boy group, I feel like BG are so cookie cutter these days

[left crow]

[gaunt flame]

you know who can save ador

[hoary frost]

yg groups are both produced by yg himself and yg rehashed concept every generation. they dont have same groups in same generation

[left crow]

Forgot to tag

[ashen charm]

Half Bernice half popcorn

[lucid yarrow]

ador hire real cat

[gaunt flame]

@lucid grail wtf since when you hybe ceo

[tiny peak]

yeah but those are junior groups I guess?

[vale grove]

Yeah, I honestly can't get into boy groups but mhj as a artist inspired me. Seeing her leave the group that I love so much with hurt like a knife to the heart

[gaunt flame]

colee ditch ador and became hybe ceo

[ashen charm]

like this but with popcorn 🍿 plz

[hoary frost]

i wish mhj talked less about plagiarism and more about actual issues. plagiarism claims gonna do more damage than good

[vale grove]

It is but they target the same exact audiences as well, which well definitely impact sales and give fans the option for pursuing one group over the other for a similar concept

[left crow]

She gotta take the fall

[ocean arch]

But they came directly from YG but in this case both illit and nj has different management

[hoary frost]

we dont want nj to fall with her

[left crow]

That’s the only way out so newjeans won’t get damaged in this process

[ashen charm]

Yg black pink and baby monster is the same as
New jeans and illit

[ocean arch]

For better or worse nj won't be the same without mhj

[cobalt flicker]

In my opinion, MHJ don’t see NJ as “HYBE group”, it is ADOR group or MHJ group. She wants no relation to the HYBE which Bang envisioned 🤷🏻‍♂️

[hoary frost]

it is not.

[vale grove]

Woah now don't stretch it

[left crow]

All she needs to say is newjeans is not part of this action I’m doing against hybe in her statement.

[torn edge]

it's not

[glad wigeon]

Sorry but hybe now are very money oriented

[vale grove]

Well whatever she does or says will affect them.

[tiny peak]

"we beleve in money"

[hoary frost]

how would they run conglomerate if they were not

[torn edge]

well not wrong either...i mean all of this are business

[ashen charm]

Let me rephrase it succes wise they want to be like them not exactly to the tea mb

[glad wigeon]

I miss big hit entertainment

[clear sentinel]

as every company/label ever

[somber phoenix]

I think hybe was taking investigation and action about this..

[cobalt flicker]

A conglomerate is business oriented

[left crow]

It’s a given, public opinion will always be split

[vale grove]

It's okay it's just with baemon there are obvious musical elements that stem from black pinks music and bp are baemons senior whereas NewJeans and illits are both rookies and sonically aren't the same just visually similar

[left crow]

We have the nay sayers and go sayers

[glad wigeon]

V choose min hee jin for his album you know that hybe money oriented

[ashen charm]

Yup I totally agree

[left crow]

If everyone in here just went with the better opinion, we wouldn’t have free will lol

[outer bone]

true esp with newjeans having phoning instead of solely using weverse

[nimble stream]

They need to appeal to their investors

[vale grove]

Everyone has always known ador specifically has been more independent than other hybe groups

[dry atlas]

ador's statement: https://n.news.naver.com/article/015/0004975806

[vale grove]

Every big label is, even in the USA. No music label isn't money oriented

[hoary frost]

is it new

[ashen charm]

Plz no

[outer bone]

And also although they are in the same umbrella company theyre in diff sublabels which makes them diff than yg

[outer bone]

woah

[glad wigeon]

I don't want hybe manage nj like they manage le serrafim

[dry atlas]

no but it has the complete statement

[frigid mason]

@dry atlas I made a quick TLDR here if you find it useful.

TLDR for those unaware:
MHJ is accusing Hybe (She specifically mentions Bang Si-hyuk) and Belyft labs of plagiarising Newjeans with Illit. There has been a lot of online talk of Illit being heavily influenced/inspired by NewJeans, MHJ explains that it causes damage to the perception towards Ador and Newjeans as they are not affiliated with one another despite being under the same Hybe Umbrella. She denies that she is trying to go Independent with Ador and that it was mediaplay.

Hybe is conducting an Audit on Ador on suspicious activity that may violate their contract/Artist Privacy to see if any misconduct was established to secretly make Ador independent/buy out Hybe shares. Hybe is requesting MHJ to dismiss and resign from her role as CEO.

MHJ explains she sent an email last week towards hybe to talk about the Plagiarism impact between Illit and Newjeans, and instead got ignored. She claims that Hybe and Belyft have refused to discuss and find a solution and decided to oust her instead.

Friendly reminder to everyone, as the situation is very complex. Let's not jump to conclusions or spread misinformation on things that are currently unfolding.

[torn edge]

THIS

[dry atlas]

can you tldr more

[hoary frost]

thanks for pinning relevant articles mel

[frigid mason]

as the situation goes on, sure

[simple ledge]

Hybe doesn’t manage le sserafim. They only manage bts and txt

[vale grove]

Yes true. This is also scary, imagine working on two different umbrellas of a label and then find out your label mates are trying to visually and conceptually target the SAME MARKET with visual elements that you also are going for. No one can deny that NewJeans concept is also incredibly popular because of the visual elements to it.

[tiny peak]

they are very involved with Le Ssserafim though, even if it's under source

[glad wigeon]

Bang shi hyuk manage le serrafim and illit

[ashen charm]

Source music handle lesserafim not hybe

[vapid bronze]

What's with the 👆 reactions

[torn edge]

[tiny peak]

I'm a huuuge le sserafim fan, but I do see them chasing trends rather than sticking to their creative concepts these days (it's definitely been successful)

[outer bone]

smart being a replica of water

[vale grove]

I think it means like "this" or I agree

[vapid bronze]

Same genre of music

[hoary frost]

everyone is under separate labels but bts txt enha lsfm illit anteam chief producer is bang pd

[unkempt roost]

bang si hyuk produces for both groups, each of the sublabels manages them

[vapid bronze]

Ampiano a genre of African music

[vale grove]

Now let's not cause that's just influence from afrobeats

[dry atlas]

Reminder: dont bash other groups or compare them negatively to newjeans

[outer bone]

true

[vale grove]

Also tyla herself said there was all love from lesserafim

[vapid bronze]

I know but I see it too much

[glad wigeon]

I don't bash the group, i bash the man behind them and how the management manage the group

[outer bone]

is the plagiarism bbtwn nj and illit something she said in her recent statement?

[vale grove]

I'm gonna step away from discord for a min bc this situation is stressing me out 😔

[dry atlas]

as in make it shorter

[frigid mason]

Correct, its in the article

[vale grove]

Will see you guys later lmk if we have updates and lmk your opinions

[frigid mason]

hahah okay!

[torn edge]

why i sense the twt nj fandom are now devided in a worst way it could be

i trust discord

XD

[simple ledge]

Just don’t go on Twitter

[torn edge]

yeah i'll stick here only for now

[glad wigeon]

Why this happen when nj comeback are so close

[torn edge]

twt are messed up

[simple ledge]

Also gotta remember the loudest voices do not represent all bunnies

[torn edge]

i forgot the media play are involved as well to this issue

[simple ledge]

A lot are probably just waiting for more info silently

[outer bone]

sorry i didnt mean it to sound shady but to add on to the point of hybe chasing trends rather than sticking to a single concept although in essence it seems like every company does that

[vale grove]

Yeah no I get it!

[outer bone]

i fw chaewon so def no shade to lsf

[vale grove]

It's alright 🥹 sorry if I sounded like I was coming at u

[torn edge]

I ALWAYS LOVE YOU ALL SUPPORTIVE BUNNIES AND THE REAL BUNNIES THAT EVER EXISTED

[vapid bronze]

Peace in chat

[south vale]

when this scandal goes end

[somber phoenix]

what's goin on ADOR whyyyy?🥹😭

[torn edge]

comeback i think

[ashen charm]

Yall this is kinda crazy

[glad wigeon]

Koreaboo spread the negative article in x lmao

[torn edge]

not to be rude, but you can catch it up at pinned

[frigid mason]

@dry atlas
TLDR for those unaware:
MHJ is accusing Hybe and Belyft labs of plagiarising Newjeans with Illit. MHJ explains that it damages the perception of Ador and NewJeans. She denies that she is trying to go Independent with Ador and that it was all mediaplay.

Hybe is conducting an Audit on Ador on suspicious activity to see if any misconduct was established secretly. Hybe is requesting MHJ to dismiss and resign from her role as CEO.

MHJ explains she sent an email last week towards Hybe to talk about the Plagiarism impact between Illit and Newjeans, and instead got ignored. She claims that Hybe and Belyft have refused to discuss and find a solution and decided to oust her instead.

Better?

[torn edge]

LEAVE X NOW KEKW

[outer canopy]

when's the issue going to resolved? Like when are we going to hear the results of the audit?

[waxen musk]

If this all started from a simple email MHJ sent to Hybe asking for a talk, then their ignoring and then sudden response today seems crazy extreme.
If MHJ was more stronly in her plagarism stance and was planning on going independent (she denied?) then it seems petty like I was saying earlier.
The pettiness comes from either Hybe or MHJ. Earlier I only saw it as MHJ being petty but now I can see it being just her wanting to discuss and concern, which turned sour too quickly.

[somber phoenix]

where I can see?

[vapid bronze]

[somber phoenix]

because Facebook newsfeed was spreading more about ..

[simple ledge]

If you’re on mobile gotta click on settings for pins

[somber phoenix]

ohwww okey2x

[torn edge]

pins at #newjeans-chat

[vapid bronze]

Tap the ador audit with the >

[outer canopy]

So basically MHJ is saying she didn't do anything, Hybe is saying she did

[glad wigeon]

From MHJ's statement, I think she is currently in a state of pressure to maintain her position in ador

[unkempt roost]

"Hybe is requesting MHJ to dismiss and resign from her role as CEO." Is this accurate?

[outer bone]

i just dont understand why hybe would accuse her of something so big? and doing an audit on her too? why do an audit if they know they arent going to find anything? this is so confusing

[torn edge]

correct

[dry atlas]

i know it falls under sus activity but can you add the independent management thing

[outer canopy]

Would they keep her as a creative director though if she steps down from her position as a CEO?

[hoary frost]

no

[torn edge]

unclear

[outer canopy]

😢

[outer bone]

hopefullyyyyyyyyy

[hoary frost]

pls its unrealistic lol

[ashen charm]

If mhj did copy japanese gg speed then she wasn't creative at all ....

[vapid bronze]

Highly not if happened

[torn edge]

imma take a timeout, my phone's burning up

[outer bone]

pls let me be delusional i alr lost chebul i cant lose nj

[tiny peak]

that's so sad 😭

[torn edge]

i'll see you guys on the next update :((

[hoary frost]

lol. attention was inspired by speed and cheetah girls...concept was literally y2k and the purpose was it to be nostalgic

[outer canopy]

I hate to admit it but I don't think a new ceo would be able to replicate the vibe that newjeans has been giving since debut. So if she's gone I just hope NJ is in good hands.

[unkempt roost]

~~This only source that i see for "requested MHJ to resign" is this https://twitter.com/tmikpop/status/1782281908430278739?t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA but the source article has been deleted.

This article has conflicting claims that "No specific staff members of ADOR were named in HYBE’s statement." https://www.nme.com/news/music/hybe-min-hee-jin-power-struggle-over-newjeans-agency-ador-3749193~~

[simple ledge]

We don’t know what they’ll find from the audit though

[outer bone]

im honestly just scared that hybe will take out their resentment for mhj on newjeans

[outer canopy]

At least they're probably set for the entire year since things for their comebacks have been fully fleshed out

[somber phoenix]

ohwww I get it !! I knew the true statement well..

[cobalt flicker]

Felt that she don’t want 2 groups of similar concepts to coexist under the same unbrella which is funny considering what she did while at SM?

[steel mason]

wdym

[somber phoenix]

the plagiarism issue was not true... and based on more clarification catch up showing

[vapid bronze]

I feel like MHJ is digging herself deeper

[hoary frost]

first article is not deleted tho?

[outer bone]

ya but on the theory that hybe is trying to bring mhj bad media so she cant get shareholders then why do an audit on her if they know theyre not gonna find anything its just such a severe reaction there has to be something else

[outer bone]

like mistreating them but also hybe would be dumb as hell to do that

[unkempt roost]

ok nvm i think it's my browser acting up

[cobalt flicker]

Anyway this ridiculous 💩 is turning into huge fandom war on that cesspool known as Twitter.
Some HYBE groups fandoms vs bunnies

[vagrant marlin]

I can't access it

[vale grove]

They did not copy speed 💀

[vagrant marlin]

are you using chrome? I cant see it either

[hoary frost]

hmmm safari accessed it

[outer bone]

ngl she must be hiding something else has she addressed the stuff ab her getting info from that hybe employee

[somber phoenix]

and Facebook too..

[hoary frost]

we shall wait more info than imagining things i think

[vapid bronze]

There's always something off in every situation

[simple ledge]

She’s trying to get shareholder rights through a coup and that’s bad and illegal

[unkempt roost]

i switched to microsoft edge then it worked lol

[vagrant marlin]

oh yeah, I see it on safari but not chrome, weird

[ocean arch]

Because this would hurt her income this time lol

[outer canopy]

If they appoint a new CEO I guess I can say goodbye to the frutiger aero concept I wanted so bad...

[outer bone]

no have hope

[outer canopy]

They're probably going to appoint an old man as CEO and I doubt he'd know about frutiger aero

[cobalt flicker]

Honestly both groups have their own dedicated fandom 🤷🏻‍♂️. Some could even be multi and buy from both

[waxen musk]

Frutiger Aero would just be chasing trends lol I don't want that but I do like the aesthetic

[ocean arch]

If 2 groups from same company have the same concept I would stick with the better group ngl

[unkempt roost]

this is a very bad summary

[outer canopy]

You can't create trends out of thin air anymore, besides frutiger aero is not really mainstream, and probably fairly unknown in Korea

[hoary frost]

this is kpop stans summary

fjdjjdjdjd

[valid sierra]

not a single one were from the news released today

[outer canopy]

And they have been chasing trends with y2k, fairycore, balletcore so it wouldn't be unusual

[steel mason]

wouldnt suggest to trust shit from twitter

[unkempt roost]

the "formed negative public opinions through media" is straight up inaccurate

and the most egregious

[steel mason]

doesnt even make sense

[torn edge]

can we get pin for this mods? thank youuu

[valid sierra]

so, even armys are against ador now (not that they were supporting NJ before)

[waxen musk]

Probably me being on TikTok but I see it too often that's why I called it chasing trend

[unkempt roost]

oh no pls dont pin that i think i'm wrong on that lol

[torn edge]

the play tho

[outer canopy]

I think I'll just lay off social media and play games instead this issue is stressing me out

[cobalt flicker]

"ILLIT is copying New Jeans in all areas of entertainment activities, including hair, makeup, costumes, choreography, photography, video and event appearances."

This part is some serious plagiarism claim from her 👀

[steep torrent]

u guys think hybe actually has evidence?

[torn edge]

bruh i though those were the 'trust me bro' sauce

[outer bone]

isnt that why theyre doing an audit

[torn edge]

doubt it kekw

[cobalt flicker]

I think HYBE is pretty confident with their mediaplay so far?

[waxen musk]

Do you think they have a legal case to prove this? I mean other than the thousands of online comments.

[steep torrent]

but also why wouldnt she also deny it in her statement??

[steel mason]

i aint boutta be stressing about this im going to bed

[frigid mason]

@dry atlas
TLDR for those unaware:
MHJ is accusing Hybe and Belift labs of plagiarising Newjeans with Illit. MHJ explains that it damages the perception of Ador and NewJeans. She denies that she is trying to go Independent with Ador and that it was all media play.

Hybe is conducting an Audit on Ador for allegedly seeking to make Ador an Independent label, an audit is underway to see if any misconduct was established secretly. Hybe is requesting MHJ to dismiss and resign from her role as CEO.

MHJ explains she sent an email last week towards Hybe to talk about the Plagiarism impact between Illit and NewJeans, and instead got ignored. She claims that Hybe and Belift have refused to discuss and find a solution and decided to oust her instead.

[steep torrent]

idk

[outer bone]

right? thats like the biggest issue of it all not illlit

[nimble stream]

where did she say this

[frigid mason]

Recent naver post

[steel mason]

gn and try not to stress about it too much, things will resolve with time

[tiny peak]

she did deny it

[nimble stream]

https://n.news.naver.com/article/015/0004975806

this one?

[waxen musk]

that's already pinned

[steep torrent]

i dont think she denied the leaking stuff accusation tho

[waxen musk]

The denial: "She denies that she is trying to go Independent with Ador and that it was all mediaplay."

[unkempt roost]

from what i understand, she did a blanket denial of all hybe claims

[waxen musk]

That's not a full denial ofc

[dry atlas]

ping me if any exclusives drop im tired of this

[outer canopy]

real

[frigid mason]

Yeah, I agree haha

[unkempt roost]

thanks mods for doing a thankless job

[waxen musk]

Things keep coming out every 30-60 mins it feels like

[outer bone]

ya

[waxen musk]

mods will always do what i cant understand but i thank them anyway

[outer bone]

each time i feel more confused lol

[nimble stream]

its fresh its active its chaotic

[tiny peak]

yeah thanks mods, did a great job tonight, and thanks for understanding people might be emotional

[waxen musk]

I've not even reached an emotional state yet i'm just in the trying to understand state

[left crow]

From my understanding,

Hybe can call for the meeting yes but they can't demand action unless it's approved by the BOD.

and from what it seems the BOD is controlled mostly by ADOR
Mhj and 2 other execs who are on her side

But HYBE can elect their own director into the board because they have majority of the shares

And that's something the court can definitely grant if need be when this gets to a court meeting between the two.

[vapid bronze]

Im still absorbing information, just like you

[steep torrent]

i see, i guess people want a direct denial for that part

[cyan rivet]

What if it's noise marketing to announce newjeans' comeback?

[waxen musk]

HOT BOD

[outer bone]

i feel like ive had an aneurism while in the trying to understand state

[waxen musk]

what's bod lol?

[vapid bronze]

[outer bone]

board of directors?

[left crow]

A business term

[waxen musk]

oh yeah ofc duh

[left crow]

Yes

[waxen musk]

i knew that one

[outer bone]

lmao the "min heejin loyalists"

[tiny peak]

LOL TOKKIUM

[waxen musk]

why they make it sound so sinister.

[cobalt flicker]

Summary of MHJ’s side of story: She denies leaking of confidential information or aiming for the independence of ADOR but accuse ILLIT of plagiarism.

[nimble stream]

wow its like watching succession

[cyan rivet]

I'm sad

[waxen musk]

Hi sad

[nimble stream]

im dad

[waxen musk]

I'm miserable

[cyan rivet]

Yeah my name is sad

[left crow]

So after all of this, this will become a court battle

[vapid bronze]

There's so much to process

[cyan rivet]

Hi Les Miserables

[left crow]

Hybe will put their own director once they get rid of the bod and mhj

[nimble stream]

imagine hybe announcing bts comeback tomorrow

[vapid bronze]

I'll wait till tmr, there will be more news

[waxen musk]

get rid of the bod monka

sounds like a murder

[outer bone]

they can request a meeting right but they cant actually make it happen the BOD can but hybe is basically forcing them to have one bc theyre threatening legal action if they dont righ t

[cobalt flicker]

Summary of HYBE’s side of story: MHJ & her loyalists attempted to coup with the action of insider trading, sabotage, abuse and go independent. we are going to audit ADOR

[outer bone]

theyre too busy serving in diff ways

[tiny peak]

Vincenzo please save NJ 😭

[outer bone]

https://tenor.com/view/picklejuicelover69-gif-1483426411005875907

[restive bison]

omg is she getting fired tho

[noble solstice]

This is wild

[cobalt flicker]

Hyunwoo is better

[cyan rivet]

I'm most worried about newjeans

[outer bone]

more like forced to resign right? ya thats basically being fired nvm

[cyan rivet]

How about comeback??

[steep torrent]

idk how true this is but this is crazy
https://x.com/Apple236734/status/1782352965610947062

[tawdry vessel]

Guys this is all a dream, we will all wake up tomorrow and things will be just fine

[vapid bronze]

[valid sierra]

the members are very emotional, they are most probably affected by this

[restive bison]

i heard if they get a new ceo the comeback could postpone and affect their careers in the future

[noble solstice]

Unfortunately he's in jail

[waxen musk]

first i heard this

[steep torrent]

people are saying theres physical evidence of abuse

[left crow]

Well the only way they can force ador and its board of directors is to do court filings to get them to stand in court, ador can say no to summoning from hybe coz again the meeting that they wanted to happen was stopped by mhj and their bod

[cyan rivet]

True...

[simple ledge]

I don’t take twitter accusations seriously unless backed up by a news source

[waxen musk]

oh shit

[hoary frost]

i dont believe that. dispatch is on hybe payroll. i will believe if victim comes out

[outer bone]

is this ab an runext contestant? or that girl who left illit before debut idk if its real tho dont quote me on this

[steep torrent]

yeah they're saying news said it but not linking anything

[waxen musk]

seriously these allegations list is crazy long and ador mhj just ignore it so far is concerning

even if dispatch on hybe payrol it's A LOT OF STUFF

[buoyant hamlet]

😤😤😤

[silent spade]

I believe it’s from dispatch

[waxen musk]

i dont

[kind hill]

Hey

[outer bone]

ohhh so is hybe gonna go through the legal route now?

[restive bison]

GIRL 😭😭😭

[vale grove]

Nah this is definitely something we should not post here. There is no reliable source for this

[kind hill]

Dont hate the group

[hoary frost]

kpop stans are just reinterpreting and connecting everything to their faves

[nimble stream]

uh

[cobalt flicker]

I believe in him, the script is a piece of messy 💩. Only the acting save it

[kind hill]

Hate the company

[left crow]

It’s the only way for them to take over ador completely

[vale grove]

We can't say stuff like that here

[restive bison]

They will if she doesn’t resign

[outer bone]

GIRL?? ntm yunahs cute

[tawdry vessel]

dont hate on the members, hate hybe instead

[outer bone]

ahhhh

[nimble stream]

hate the company love the members

[placid rose]

is this thread recent?

[ashen charm]

Min Hee Jin says ILLIT’s alleged plagiarism of NewJeans is the primary reason for her feud with HYBE

[cobalt flicker]

Both have to go thru the legal route regardless

[kind hill]

Yup

[vale grove]

Yes I agree. Imagine how illit fans feel about being dragged into this too

[restive bison]

the resign is considered as a “peace offering” in a way because getting fired is a very bad look especially in korea and you’ll probably never find a job

[outer bone]

wait cant they just buy back shares like they tried to do with sm?

[left crow]

No

[placid rose]

not aware of the context but i assume its MHJ beefing up with HYBE

[outer bone]

oh cause mhj has them nvm lmao

[valid sierra]

was the shadowban true?

[silent spade]

AFAIK Hybe used to own 100% until maybe last year. There’s nothing for her to 'buy back'

[unkempt roost]

technically nothing is really stopping them from ousting MHJ right now cuz they are already the majority shareholder

[outer bone]

oh? wait what I got the weverse tweet ab hyein day on my feed

[left crow]

Well if mhj needs to buy back stocks, she needs approval from hybe which is same vice versa

[cobalt flicker]

Me too i also got the notification 🤔

[brazen ice]

bro i dont wanna pick a side theyre both shit

[left crow]

So with both stocks are from hybe and ador, they will hold onto it until one gives in

[hoary frost]

is she still member of board?

[outer bone]

really? then why not yk give her the boot

[sudden frigate]

Just don't pick a side that will end up like FiftyFifty

Learn from that PLEASE

[brazen ice]

this is a big company, 5050 situation will not happen

[outer bone]

ahh but as long as she doesnt get 30% hybe is still very much in control

[elder crag]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-begging-pretty-please-beg-on-your-knees-pray-for-mercy-gif-26344462

[outer bone]

GIRL LMGAO

[tiny peak]

5050 situation taught me you want to be on the winning side

[unkempt roost]

i swear 90% of shadowban accusation are just fans overreacting, but i dont know about nwjns sns accs to comment

[tawdry vessel]

i side with mhj, we all know hybe is greedy

[sudden frigate]

EXACTLY

[brazen ice]

we dont know mhj to know shes not greedy either

[nimble stream]

maybe everybody is greedy

[hoary frost]

5050 will happen IF newjeans openly supports ador, wants contracts terminated that means hybe will not hold back to tarnish their image.

[waxen musk]

Yeah

worse case

[hoary frost]

worst case

[outer bone]

but we dont know until the audit

[waxen musk]

btw what caused 50 50 to not be able to come back together, disagreement between members?

[sudden frigate]

Let's hope they don't put their necks on the line for Mama Min

[hoary frost]

bc current hybe is just as bad as SM during peak and can do anything

[nimble stream]

Hybe is gonna bribe government to get bts members back from the duty and announce comeback soon

[vale grove]

I doubt the girls will openly support mhj

[hoary frost]

they trusted givers too much when givers was exploiting them for their own gain as well

[unkempt roost]

there are other factors at play, like public's perception of a sudden firing without proper reason (which is why an audit is launched to verify the claims), MHJ ties to nwjns members and how the public perceives that MHJ is basically ADOR itself, i assume it would be a political suicide to straight up fire her

[hoary frost]

they didnt not take attrakt offer to go back to them

[sudden frigate]

Only one did, right?

[hoary frost]

yeah

[outer bone]

Ahhhhh

[drowsy crypt]

Yes, first Kim seokjin will be return in June (BTS debut 11th anniversary)

[sudden frigate]

Like she pulled out of her legal case

[hoary frost]

attrakt also manipulated media in a way that public turned their backs on them

[waxen musk]

ok my battery is at 1% bye i hope i can pause from this for a moment

[ashen charm]

Mr world wide handsome

[nimble stream]

wait new news just dropped

[torn edge]

i forgot this case exist T-T

[tawdry vessel]

We all know hybe will do anything for money, whereas mhj atleast treats the girls very well. It's an easy side to pick

[waxen musk]

yeah the news that's you're annoying af

[nimble stream]

rude

[outer bone]

only one did and ppl shit on her so much for it but the 3 other members who left just kept getting sued by attrakt so i see why she stayed

[placid rose]

ADOR try not to get into a controversy during nj's comeback preparation challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]

[restive bison]

itll probably get postponed anyway

[dry atlas]

ashbash it's time

[vale grove]

This is true. Not to mention the fact that min heejin created many concepts for some of the most popular sm groups and had an amazing resume in the kpop sphere. People love her.

[outer bone]

hopefully

[dry atlas]

gts

[torn edge]

next win for BM

[waxen musk]

didnt need u to say that this time

also dont ping me lol

[hoary frost]

she is polarizing figure. some like some dont

[restive bison]

tbh I don’t even think bubblegum will do big 😭

[hoary frost]

she has been even more hated after nj success

[unkempt roost]

tldr MHJ is Trump

[hoary frost]

naurr

[nimble stream]

make ador great again

[torn edge]

why this one gave me the 'I'm the Bowery' scene at John Wick 3

[nimble stream]

maga

[hoary frost]

maga..why does it fit

[sudden frigate]

Girl, you entered this Discord only today prolly because of this controversy

[torn edge]

bruh just look at Zero KEK

[restive bison]

and what about it?

[sudden frigate]

That profile...

[torn edge]

lmao

[dry atlas]

?

[restive bison]

this profile has nitro as well can you say the same?

[waxen musk]

i was half a second from gts

[dry atlas]

gts!

[waxen musk]

ok i gues you just want me stick around

how many more hours is fine for you?

[restive bison]

oh okay

[dry atlas]

😵‍💫

[vale grove]

She definitely is but I believe in Korea she has a much better reputation than in the west

[tribal sand]

Oh what is this?

[tawdry vessel]

team ador and newjeans 🙏

[vale grove]

Huhhhh 💀💀💀

[waxen musk]

people mostly know of her work in korea, whereas here it feels like people mostly know her from controveries

[outer bone]

she gets a ton of shit from sm fans ive noticed

[torn edge]

jk

[tribal sand]

wait what’s happening here yall

[restive bison]

she won’t anymore if she gets fired

[vale grove]

Yes, exactly.

[outer canopy]

I don't know about having a better reputation, they just don't demonize her as much

[brazen ice]

check pinned

[outer bone]

hybe and min heejin love eachother and theyre rlly good friends

[left crow]

Understand this though, hybe is the majority shareholder of ador before giving 20% to mhj and giving her part of being a board of director, now hybe have 3 board of directors who are pro ador. If all bod’s can’t get to an agreement, there will be no meetings happening. Unless a legal action is produced by hybe through court, as they are the majority shareholder of adors stocks, using the shareholders power to appoint a new board of directors for ador.

[outer canopy]

just besties fighting

[tribal sand]

How do I check pinned in a thread

[outer bone]

lovers quarrell

[vale grove]

Well SURE but that's because of Korea's stigma again being fired.

[dry atlas]

click the thread on top then settings

[outer bone]

click the top of ur screen press the like channel name and go to settings then youll see it

[vale grove]

RN I'm talking about her reputation in Korea aside the controversy.

[tribal sand]

OOOO

[vale grove]

Hybe would be screwed to fire her

[left crow]

So either way, hybe will win all the legality of this battle against mhj.

[tribal sand]

OOO DAMNNNNNN

[torn edge]

if you're from mobile, check it via #newjeans-chat pinned section

[tribal sand]

I THOUGHT THEY WERE SIMILAR TOO BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT OF SUIING

[tribal sand]

ty

[torn edge]

it'll direct you to the pinned chat from this thread as well

[outer canopy]

Hybe keep her as a creative director please 🥺🥺🤓☝️ I know it's not gonna happen but still...

[tribal sand]

https://tenor.com/view/cosmog-pokemon-pokemon-sun-and-moon-alola-legendary-pokemon-gif-25689709

[hoary frost]

What is going on

[humble condor]

One thing is certain that MHJ definitely treats NewJeans well from what I can see on the surface - Payouts a few months into their debut, Luxurious dorm upgrade in such a short timespan of their career, holistic approach to work schedule etc, forget NewJeans when HYBE isn't going to treat Le Sserafim and IL-LIT half as nice.

While it is more legislatively correct for NewJeans to follow HYBE, I wouldn't surprise if Bang Si Hyuk see NewJeans no more than a speck of humiliating existence in his personal conquest for his Girl Group success and a hindrance to Le Sserafim and especially IL-LIT, in worse case scenario Bang PD is likely going to cast NewJeans to oblivion with minimal to almost no schedules/releases/comebacks til the time of their disbandment. Or when he does continue to work on it, NewJeans is pretty much not going to be NewJeans anymore taking the leftovers which are not given to Le Sserafim and IL-LIT (Biologicial Daughters vs Illegitimate Child).

Either way NewJeans are in a perilous path if both parties cannot settle this issue peacefully.

[tribal sand]

Are they considering actually firing her??

[hoary frost]

She’s done

[waxen musk]

I wonder how #NewJeans_is_Everywhere plays into this

[tawdry vessel]

best outcome is reconciliation between the two

[tribal sand]

Wasn’t she the one to blow up NewJeans in the first place? What happens then? (Sorry I’m curious lol)

[humble condor]

Oh if HYBE does take over and milks NewJeans out, prepare to shelf out 800 australian dollars for the next NewJeans Hoodie.. If you're curious why am I so specific about that exorbitant pricing? That's the price of Le SSerafim Hoodie at their recent Australia Pop-Up Store

[silent spade]

I don’t think Hybe would be dumb enough to dungeon NJ. Makes no sense

[tribal sand]

This is insane…I hope NewJeans ends up okay

[outer canopy]

If we get a NJ hiatus I'm gonna have to intervene

[restive bison]

Newjeans career will be affected and probably will fail to produce these catchy songs anymore and the comeback coming this week will be postponed

[tribal sand]

You better believe some netzens are gonna backlash right

[unkempt roost]

chill bro imo you're demonising bang/ putting mhj on too high of a pedestal. The truth for both of them is probably somewhere in the middle....

[cobalt lintel]

did u get one 😁

[tribal sand]

Fuckkk nooooo I was so ready for a comeback

[vapid bronze]

So much money ew

[torn edge]

unpopular opinion in here, the concept of this year bunnies club membership 'finding bunnies' is suitable lore for today. we are being tested agents

[tribal sand]

So do you think that they will end up okay in the end? They’ll still be the NewJeans we all know and love?

[tribal sand]

Our mission.

[outer canopy]

girl don't trust them, their comebacks for this year should be fully fleshed out so at least this year should be okay

[torn edge]

protecc

[nimble stream]

"watership down" is also a suitable lore for today

[tribal sand]

Ah lmao kk…

[humble condor]

HYBE Director Board definitely would want everything because NewJeans can obviously still earn revenue for HYBE as a whole, key thing lies in how Bang Si Hyuk handles and balance his mentality. Back then when he was against Attention and the debut scheme of NewJeans thinking it wouldn't succeed WHILE having a big GG production dream of his own, I imagine it does not sit well in his taste when the results turned out otherwise.

[vapid bronze]

Can't wait for tiktok and insta to drag this

[tawdry vessel]

yes

[tribal sand]

If we get put on indefinite hiatus IM RAGING…. I ALREADY HAVE ONE RIIZE MEMBER ON HIATUS AND I CANT DEAL WITH A GROUP TOO 😭😭😭😭

[torn edge]

up

[left crow]

This

I wholeheartedly agree on this lol

[tribal sand]

So he’s gonna use NewJeans?

[humble condor]

I just hope both NewJeans and IL-LIT members are spared from all the conflicts, the girls basically have no right or say over everything that is happening right now. Every single one of them is innocent from what I see.

[outer bone]

When u say that Hybe have 3 pro ador BODs are u talking ab how Ador has 3 BODs?

[nimble stream]

Hybe wouldnt put the cow with golden milk in a dungeon

[tribal sand]

Ngl they are good money makers, especially right now yk yk cause they are super popular,

This is great I’ve never gossiped about a GG so much before lol

[outer canopy]

NJ will be okay, the main issue to be worried about is the creative direction here. I don't want them to put someone incompetent as the new CEO if this happens.

[rose turret]

I hope everything goes well for NewJeans

[tribal sand]

So what happens if she didn’t sue, we wouldn’t have to worry about this right?

[left crow]

Hybe has board of directors for the company, and part of that is mhj as she’s ceo. There are other two who stands with mhj who’s a part of hybe bod.

[silent spade]

In the end they did invest in Hybe/NJ regardless of their past differing opinions. I would think they would continue to do so now even without MHJ

[rose turret]

[old cypress]

if mhj gets replaced, newjeans concepts will just be more like other kpop groups

[vapid bronze]

Hi (dae)rin

[outer bone]

ohhhh ok ok

[hoary frost]

they will not appoint nayeon kim or yemin kim as ceo either bc they are mhj people

[unkempt roost]

i'm not a prophet idk lol

[rose turret]

the news are getting worse

[unkempt roost]

screw it minji as new CEO

[tribal sand]

Ughhhh

[outer canopy]

urgh... 😞

[tribal sand]

I'm gonna riot

[vapid bronze]

I've been getting the chills

[tribal sand]

[outer canopy]

The girls would be better CEOs than any of the old men Hybe are gonna put instead

[restive bison]

girlll??? 😭 it could happen

[drifting scaffold]

Interesting day

[outer bone]

my nail broke whose fault hybe or mhjs

[outer canopy]

worst case scenario

[vapid bronze]

You

[restive bison]

ik but its a possibility which is what I said when I said probably

[tribal sand]

We will have to wait and see...

[waxen musk]

ok sinking in now and i'm actually getting upset at the thought of everything the girls will have to endure (potentially). gn lol (for real i promise)

[outer bone]

delete htis

[vapid bronze]

[tribal sand]

I hope they get thru this...

[restive bison]

newjeans careers could be heavily affected by this i thought we all knew this

[left crow]

Btw board of directors only happens when a company goes public and of course have stocks, so all of this is happening because hybe went on this route.

[torpid tinsel]

https://vxtwitter.com/iseauseamee/status/1782367231848198381

[sleek crest]

zugdgrhhrb poor girls uryfgrhhrhrhfhfj

[outer bone]

BAD WORD FINGER BAN PLEEK !!

[tribal sand]

As someone was saying earlier they'll be fine this year but we don't know. By the future

[vapid bronze]

PLEEK?

[hoary frost]

So is the comeback happening

[outer canopy]

yeah but their career won't be affected. They'll still have their fanbase and overall good reputation. They're not gonna experience a downfall

[plush nymph]

Is it really shadowbanned their accs

[vapid bronze]

sf

[valid sierra]

the may and june comebacks would probably be cancelled, since MHJ is NJs executive producer

[hoary frost]

This is actually crazy

[hoary frost]

i will buy tickets to sk

[vapid bronze]

Welp I tried , I'm listening to ditto

[tribal sand]

Nah I think they will be fine

[old cypress]

no, private companies can have a bod

[hoary frost]

and protest in front of hybe

[cobalt flicker]

I still received notification?

[outer bone]

And i said what i said

[hoary frost]

i am worse than protest trucks

[tribal sand]

Like I live in korea tho

[vapid bronze]

Nah pluh

[old cypress]

board of directors is an executive committee, nothing more

[outer canopy]

I don't think they can back off the essential brand deal

[unkempt roost]

shadowbanning accusation is a realy biased take ngl there are zero proofs that 1) it is happening 2) that HYBE somehow caused it to happen

[tribal sand]

Do even netzens care?

They might not even give a damn as much as we fans in the West

[vale grove]

Doesn't make sense but pride is a strong feeling. It could be a way to retaliate

[left crow]

They can but it needs to have a certain amount also, if the company is not worth millions it won’t have a bod.

[hoary frost]

yeah, its not up to hybe. ador just posts a lot of ad deals

which is spammy nature

members should get individual igs

[tribal sand]

how many companies are under hybe, and what happens if MHJ gets removed, whose next in line? I'm confused

[nimble stream]

but appeasing the shareholders is more important...

[outer canopy]

whoever Hybe appoints

[hoary frost]

i am next in line

[nimble stream]

Mr. B

[humble condor]

Not to say Bang PD is a demon from the way he runs Girl Group with such lack of empathy, or more like he was partially turned into one likely because of his traumatic past with his former GG, Glam. Technically Bang PD is also a perpetual victim of his past in a certain way, that he still decided and willing to produce GGs in and that itself is some sort of a miracle already.

[outer canopy]

Make me the new creative director 🥺🥺🥺

[tribal sand]

Mr beast???

[torpid tinsel]

whatever they got going on should’ve stayed between them like why make it public

[tawdry vessel]

jeoun wick?

[tribal sand]

Do you guys think that Illit is the same as newjeans? Do you think that this lawsuit should have happened?

[outer canopy]

hell yeah

[outer bone]

Mr beast can save us

[hoary frost]

exactly

[nimble stream]

No lol

[vale grove]

Mr.beast Burger is good

[tribal sand]

Cause bro people can have the same sound but like

[hoary frost]

I hope mhj starts a new label that newjeans joins

[tawdry vessel]

not the scammer 😭

[old cypress]

everyone thought of newjeans when they saw illit

[tribal sand]

yes this!!

[cobalt flicker]

This drama will get messier if Kakao step in and offer MHJ a way out 💀

[vale grove]

Not the same vibe or vomcept

[unkempt roost]

it's very hard for me to imagine that hybe somehow has the influence to convince some engineer in every SNS company to manually manipulate the outreach of certain posts that sounds like some major conspiracy theory

[vapid bronze]

"Today I'll be managing a group called newjeans!"

[outer canopy]

Well, people have pointed out similarities since debut for a reason.

[hoary frost]

can we email him to buy out ador

[dry atlas]

btw if there are trolls ping mods not me pls

[hoary frost]

for his next yt project

A lot of groups copy NJ

[tribal sand]

HE WOULD SO WINNNN

[outer canopy]

Their image does overlap a bit.

[half goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/illit-magnetic-dance-gif-16871578436881339367

[hoary frost]

I like illit too

[nimble stream]

illit is a bit cuter concepty?

[old cypress]

newjeans and illit are like coke and dr pepper

[hoary frost]

Or I used to like them

[left crow]

Also don’t forget hybe is the majority shareholder of ador, so they don’t need pleasing. They got the power to take everything away if they want to. But it depends on who really is in the seat of power.

[outer bone]

tbh no lmao i can see some similarities but i mean eh

[tribal sand]

Illit is cute and I don't really mind if they are similar lol

[rose glen]

I’m so scared Bunnies 😢

[valid sierra]

ADOR is an independent label tho, hybe cant intercept with their management unless ador breached the contract

[hoary frost]

Depends on contracts right

[left crow]

They aren’t independent

[nimble stream]

👁️

[hoary frost]

they need to prove all these accusations

[humble condor]

I agree. The only good thing about this is giving Starshit Entertainment and SM Ent employees to change their dinner to a group celebration session out there eating Army Stew Pot or Barbeque session

[hoary frost]

[unkempt roost]

ador is only as independent as HYBE allows them to be, cuz hybe holds the majority share

[outer canopy]

If they were independent this wouldn't have happened

[hoary frost]

We don’t know the hybe ador contract nor do we know Korean law

🐰🫂

[vapid bronze]

If ador is proven innocent, we are so gucci

[tribal sand]

They're a label under a bigger company right

[outer bone]

GIrl ntm its not like ur ever gonna see them live anyways

[restive bison]

Mhj role involves overseeing the planning and production of album artwork, costumes and music videos, as well as building the artist's brand identity through non-visual means. This whole concept of newjeans that everybody loves shes behind all of it hence why she upset about illit. These catchy songs of newjeans shes behind it as well therefore her getting fired or resigned will affect newjeans unless the new CEO knows what theyre doing

[left crow]

Ador is a subsidiary of hybe guys

[tribal sand]

LMAO

What does ntm mean?

[left crow]

That’s why they have 80% of shareholder stocks of ador

[outer bone]

not too much

[sleek crest]

not to mention?

[vale grove]

Can we not like talk shit about illit please lmao

[tribal sand]

Hybe is the big company but ador is the smalle one right

[old cypress]

there's probably something in the contracts that prevents hybe from interfering in ador business which makes ador semi-independant

[tribal sand]

kk

[valid sierra]

thats why hybe is using the "MHJ leaks confidential information" thing as ground for breach of contract

[hoary frost]

It’s like sk and skt

Or lotte and lotte supermarket

[tribal sand]

Can we talk shit abt le sserafim-
/j

[fathom abyss]

HYBE is the body and ador is the arm. They're part of HYBE.

[dry atlas]

do it

[outer bone]

no i fw chaewon and sakura

[tough iris]

Its joever for MHJ

[hoary frost]

Idk if you can just remove a ceo from a subsidiary though

[tribal sand]

Lets hope not

[hoary frost]

There’s a reason why ceos usually get paid to leave

[tribal sand]

Probably can? Ador is the smaller company underneath HYBE

[hoary frost]

And mhj isn’t going to take the money to leave she will fight which I respect

[tribal sand]

SHE BETTER WIN!!

[hoary frost]

Idk how the contracts work

[left crow]

The only way for mhj to survive this is to get all shareholders and bod to get into an agreement where she gets kicked out while newjeans stays the same.

[hoary frost]

Or if newjeans leaves with her

[tough iris]

what do u mean hope not? shes a shit person

[valid sierra]

thats why they called a general meeting, it needs majority votes of shareholders and board of directors

[outer canopy]

The catchy songs, you can thank Erika de Casier, FRKN and 250... as long as they stay, the songs will be okay. And I'm assuming they have teams dedicated to marketing and the creative direction, so I doubt the quality will go down. The only thing to worry about is the concept, and it depends on how much the new CEO would be willing to interfere with their own ideas

[hoary frost]

Do we know how rich mhj is

Cause she is about to have a lot of suing

[tribal sand]

She is but what abt newjeans indifferent style? What happens when she's gone

[torn edge]

yeah like both are softdrinks, but different label and taste

[left crow]

Newjeans is contracted within ador but they are still owned by hybe

[torn edge]

okay the taste probably came out wrong

[hoary frost]

Remember when openAI tried removing Sam Altman and they couldn’t do it?

who wants to bet than ador is preparing 20 pages essay to clarify accusations

[nimble stream]

Ador is subsidiary to HYBE

[old cypress]

yeah but overall similar visual aspect

[tribal sand]

I want her to stay not because of her controversy but for the sake of newjeans staying themselves

[rose glen]

What did she do that’s bad?

[torn edge]

i agree

[tawdry vessel]

That's a tokki mother. Meanwhile hype is known to be a greedy ass company that doesn't care about anything as long as it produces money. Common man smh

[hoary frost]

Hopefully we have a situation like that with ador

[tough iris]

Someone will take her place. MHJ is replaceable

[hoary frost]

If newjeans stands with mhj maybe they can get her back

[dry atlas]

on phoning

[outer canopy]

Yeah, but its all about whether they pick the RIGHT person to replace her

[nimble stream]

LOL

[torpid tinsel]

even hanni started joining discord because of this mess...

[tribal sand]

Guys what exactly has she done? That like y'all hate

[tawdry vessel]

yes team ador and newjeans always

[rose glen]

I hope they can patch things and MHJ stays

[vale grove]

I don't think she will abandon NewJeans for money. She's too prideful of her work for that

[left crow]

If newjeans stands with mhj, it will be another 50/50 situation

[humble condor]

That is if Bang PD do not interfere, which is well.. pretty impossible. He's really good at Boyband songs as seen with BTS and some hits with GGs that he started on his own, as with NewJeans? Nah..

[vapid bronze]

Where!?

[tough iris]

Leaked documents and private information about other idols. Name dropped Illit on her statement. Absolutely disgusting

[unkempt roost]

honestly that's the best outcome that can happen

[hoary frost]

It could be an openAI situation

[dry atlas]

all of that is from mhj connection to BANA (ceo also from SM)

[vale grove]

It's most likely the girls will stay silent

[tribal sand]

This is more of the icky stuff because it's a 50/59 gamble right

[clever zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-better-call-saul-its-joever-it-is-over-season6-gif-27000967

[torpid tinsel]

@tough iris

[drifting scaffold]

Even if illit is truly leaning into being similar to newjeans, isnt that technically a good thing? Newjeans are changing the industry like people wanted all along, so why is it a problem when groups adapt to the new industry landscape and take some inspiration?

[valid sierra]

from what i studied, removal of a CEO requires a valid ground of dismissal, majority votes of both shareholders and Board of directors

[hoary frost]

OpenAI tried removing their ceo and their employees revolted and stood with their ceo so they couldn’t do it

[left crow]

Well that’s the best solution lol

[outer canopy]

if he interferes I'm gonna riot

[tribal sand]

Yup

[old cypress]

because illit might run the concept into the ground without ador being able to do anything

[hoary frost]

It’s his job to interfere

[lunar turtle]

is it over for min heejin or not

[hoary frost]

Like if he doesn’t interfere he’s doing something wrong lol

[vale grove]

The problem is they are also targeting the same market, meaning an overlap in concept which can hinder NewJeans growth

[hoary frost]

Seems pretty hard to come back

[torpid tinsel]

I recommend watching "Everyone loves me" it's a chinese drama

[old cypress]

it's what they're afraid of

[outer canopy]

they are from the same label with the same opportunities, their image and audience would overlap too much + fanwars

[vapid bronze]

Mhj will pull the "Nah I'd win"

[clever zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-randy-marsh-south-park-s11e9-season11episode09more-crap-episode9-gif-21167997

[left crow]

But the only problem is repercussions will hit newjeans and it’s not good if it happens

[tawdry vessel]

choppa, it's not over

[nimble stream]

I wanna pull a cousin Greg and become a director in company

[outer canopy]

MHJ indefinite hiatus

[clever zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-better-call-saul-its-joever-it-is-over-season6-gif-27000967

[hoary frost]

How much money does mhj have

[humble condor]

Perspectives. Pretty sure no one whoever replacing her will treat NewJeans just as nice and able to present the "IT" element that people have come to love with NewJeans's Music, though if MHJ does did something lawfully wrong, that pink elephant in the room remains something that needs to be addressed..

[outer canopy]

🤓☝️

[rose glen]

I don’t think so. The demand for NewJeans is more than that can output. I want more songs / MVs like them

[hoary frost]

Is she like a millionaire?

[dry wind]

This is fricking crazy guys

[hoary frost]

I’m afraid she might’ve spent the money she made on newjeans so she can’t afford legal bills

[restive bison]

Most of them are not koreans and if you hear their original english versions its not as catchy. They send their samples to HYBE where they handle and change the songs and lyrics to their liking. Marketing will not be an issue ofc hybe is a big company but the concept is what made them go viral in the first place. It’s one and if not the most important factor when it comes to newjeans because it’s very refreshing and something new and like I said before mhj is behind all of it, you have her to thank for. If the new ceo start using these new ideas newjeans will be affected

[tribal sand]

What is the contrevsey with MHJ btw I'm confused

[vale grove]

We don't know this

[outer canopy]

probably? Most CEOs dont reveal whats in their bank account

[old cypress]

nah she's rich asf now lol

[hoary frost]

Like the girls got paid a lot of money and mhj made a lot less money than she could have

[hoary frost]

Whole situation but she is not the ceo anymore hybe removed her

[old cypress]

she owns most of ador iirc

i mean

[teal bone]

20%

[old cypress]

most of the 20%