NJZ Updates and Discussion

[gaunt flame]

hi

[waxen musk]

You realise Phoning still owned by Hybe right.

[gaunt flame]

what is this thread

[somber pumice]

reply in one second if ur not gay ibob

1

[hoary frost]

i agree

[vapid bronze]

Legal issues about mhj and hybe

[quick wadi]

“Powered by weverse”

[hoary frost]

frfr

[gaunt flame]

do not be overthinking about this people

[waxen musk]

Literally not possible

I've tried for many years

Havent found a way to stop

[vapid bronze]

A Canon vs a pistol

[acoustic valve]

business, like politics, is not about liking or trusting people. It's about power, negotiation and deals. That's all this is. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, often you just compromise

[outer bone]

they said theyd start taking legal action if ador wouldnt have the shareholder meeting tho right? or am i getting things wrong

[sudden frigate]

https://fxtwitter.com/hyeindolls/status/1782285475320922134

[dry atlas]

bro stop comparing groups

i already deleted your lsfm message

[waxen musk]

Yeah I can imagine Hybe thinking they could earn more money by milking NewJeans releases make it sound like all their current stuff, etc. Want to earn back what MHJ has gained by her shares, etc... It's all money money money

[outer bone]

U wont miss that nj will be ok dw

[brazen ice]

yeah but im sure she wouldnt just dodge the meeting

[hoary frost]

btw is hybe oneof the biggest entertainments

[dapper shuttle]

She’s cooked

[hoary frost]

?

[hoary frost]

in korea

[hoary frost]

yea

[vapid bronze]

If korea then yes, cause yk bts and other groups

[gaunt flame]

we have no eternal enemies or eternal friends, all is about interests.

[hoary frost]

yea like yg and jyp

[dry atlas]

shut up

[outer bone]

true but i feel like shes kinda unpredictable

[blissful mango]

i think we all know that

[gaunt flame]

mel told you to shut up

[hoary frost]

no i was asking

i was asking if they are

[vapid bronze]

[gaunt flame]

mel is rude

[hoary frost]

what i did i do what

just wishing the best for newjeans. i only care about them tbh

[outer bone]

real

[hoary frost]

and i dont want them to suffer in any way

[grand sapphire]

Same

[unkempt roost]

Keep in mind that Hybe's source so far is just a tipoff, that's why there's an audit to verify these claims, they are not 100% true yet

[dry atlas]

strawberry jam

[blissful mango]

oh, then yea they are

[dry atlas]

why are you hiding from us

[unkempt roost]

^ repost cuz ppl are jumping into conclusions

[hoary frost]

okay! thank you :D

[dry atlas]

not you hehe, ibob

[hoary frost]

oh :3

[dry atlas]

is dia here too under a different name???!?!?!?!

[somber pumice]

i missed you

[quick wadi]

I thought you were missing all this time 🥹

[outer bone]

i hope the girlies are doing ok rn i rlly dont want them to be caught in the middle of this

[gaunt flame]

what i did i do what

[vapid bronze]

Dia is currently offline

[sudden frigate]

Plsss don't get caught in the crossfire

[vapid bronze]

Dia stop hiatus.

[lethal terrace]

I think the emergency meeting is something that they could probably call for regardless since they own 80%. Legal action against Ador might be for something like not complying to it 🤷‍♀️ I’m not an attorney though haha

[waxen musk]

When you say NewJeans do you just mean the girls? Because to me NewJeans is more than the girls.

[outer bone]

the person or the group

[snow turtle]

*tt https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeHE4vne/

[harsh dove]

@hyeinatural

[vapid bronze]

Dia a person in this server everyone loves

[somber pumice]

fuck you

[snow turtle]

WHAT

[somber pumice]

sorry

[snow turtle]

winten pls behave.

[somber pumice]

[dry atlas]

wentin pls behave

[vapid bronze]

Whineton behave

[somber pumice]

alright mel

[brazen ice]

bro is stressin

[dry atlas]

@final crane please talk to wentin

[gaunt flame]

wentin?

[somber pumice]

alright

[snow turtle]

LLMAO

[hoary frost]

bro what?? so you dont call them girls?? what are they then? cat, chick, bear, iphone, puppy?

[quick wadi]

wheat thin

[final crane]

What's up with Wentin?

[waxen musk]

WHAT?

[hoary frost]

LMFAO

[outer bone]

tytyy this is so confusing lol

[waxen musk]

I think you severely misread what i wrote

[acoustic valve]

i blame tokkitwt, they were complaining about ador being too quiet, shit always pops off when they complain about things being quiet

[hoary frost]

oh :(

[final crane]

@somber pumice are u okay my friend?

[quick wadi]

why’d you rebrand 😒

[hoary frost]

oh

i did misreaed

[dry atlas]

where's bananajamdream

[hoary frost]

this is where my excuse of ''ermmm english is not my first language'' comes in

[waxen musk]

oh good you made me worried lol

[buoyant moth]

theres always smt going on in tokkitwt you can never rely on them 😭

[vapid bronze]

It's like "No more customers for today." And suddenly more comes in

[brazen ice]

corporate drama is annoying

[acoustic valve]

didn't think about it tbh, i just felt like taro boba some time ago

[outer bone]

no literally, someone on tokkitwt tried convincing me ditto was released 3 years ago

[waxen musk]

What if tokkitwt is hybe and they just fed up of waiting for music for 10 months they want more frequent releases

[quick wadi]

did you rebrand on twt also

[vapid bronze]

Juicy plot twist

[quick wadi]

im going to follow you back now strawberryjam

[hoary frost]

i want to be fly on the wall of emergency meeting room

[acoustic valve]

dont think so

[somber pumice]

strawberryjam have you had real taro in boba

[final crane]

Wentin?

[vapid bronze]

Tokkitwt is their way of speaking out lol

[quick wadi]

the amount of taro drinks that get ordered and I’ve made is astronomical

[acoustic valve]

tbh, i'm probably more addicted to the unholy amounts of purple food coloring

[somber pumice]

purple yam soup is good

[vapid bronze]

Could I have a brown sugar boba, large and no ice?

[somber pumice]

taro soup

[waxen musk]

sorry taro boba but i had matcha boba yesterday

[somber pumice]

aye

[brazen ice]

bro its crazy to me that all of this is happening while danielle is still just out in the air lmao

[quick wadi]

yes

[vapid bronze]

[quick wadi]

we actually give more drink when you order no ice

[snow turtle]

fr?

[dry atlas]

-rule3

[tall dew]

Keep channels on topic. Each channel has a description; please follow it.

[snow turtle]

thanks for the tip tim

[hoary frost]

minji for ceo!

[dry atlas]

pls keep this about the toxic company stuff

[vapid bronze]

4 dollar tip for tim

[quick wadi]

I’m sorry im going to go mute me now

[snow turtle]

[waxen musk]

we dont want to mel

[buoyant moth]

💀

[vapid bronze]

[snow turtle]

yummy

[waxen musk]

that looks big af wtf

[vapid bronze]

Toxic company to boba

Wth

[brazen ice]

its just a lil break

[waxen musk]

break up of nj yeah

[vapid bronze]

Let the brain heal ig

[waxen musk]

[brazen ice]

nah that aint it bro

[waxen musk]

jk

[kind hill]

i love this discussion sm

[brazen ice]

theyre fine bro trust

[somber pumice]

it was big

very big ashbash…

[snow turtle]

its sooo big

[waxen musk]

erm

[vapid bronze]

Don't jinx it

Please

[brazen ice]

🤨

[waxen musk]

mel help

[hoary frost]

why is this suddenly boba channel

[snow turtle]

ok see you guys in the good chats

dont yap too much here

[vapid bronze]

Ash if this comes true, I will find you

[waxen musk]

i apologise in advance

[vapid bronze]

[hoary frost]

anyways please support her candidacy as CEO of ADOR!

[acoustic valve]

the girls will be fine and almost definitely remain as NJ eitherways, this is all happening around them. Without them, there's nothing to fight over anyway

[somber pumice]

drop a boba picture

[hoary frost]

i dont have boba

[buoyant moth]

boba break?

[hoary frost]

[brazen ice]

ive never tried boba

[waxen musk]

try it

[snow turtle]

can i send my pretty halloween starbucks drink or is that not accepted cuz of the boycott

[waxen musk]

tastes liek snot

[somber pumice]

send it

[waxen musk]

big chewy snot balls

[vapid bronze]

[brazen ice]

bro, its not even taste that makes me not want to try it. Its the price

[waxen musk]

get a job

[somber pumice]

how much is it for u

[snow turtle]

@somber pumice

[brazen ice]

i will in the summer trust

[brazen ice]

its prob like 5 euros

[lethal terrace]

Minji has my vote. Now I just need to buy stock to be eligible to vote right.

[somber pumice]

wow that is a pretty starbucks drink

[snow turtle]

right

[somber pumice]

that is cheap as hell

[quick wadi]

real

[torpid tinsel]

we'll get 100 remixes if that happens

[brazen ice]

not for me girl

[somber pumice]

I be spending 10-11 euros on boba

[waxen musk]

5 is cheap

[somber pumice]

in usd

[waxen musk]

too cheap

[slate yarrow]

ador audit more like boba audit hehehe

[quick wadi]

boba here is like 7-9 usd

[snow turtle]

change the name of the channel tim

[waxen musk]

yeah £5.50-7

[snow turtle]

boba audit is better fr

[brazen ice]

mofo im not from the US that shi expensive

[somber pumice]

Food-and-Health

[quick wadi]

Good thing I work at a place so I don’t have to pay

[valid sierra]

In president Minji we trust

[somber pumice]

the wages cannot be that drastically different

[quick wadi]

mwahahahah

[brazen ice]

until we get news its food and health rn lmao

[vapid bronze]

I'll just use you to get a free one

[brazen ice]

what is the US monthly average? like the minimum

[quick wadi]

depends by state

not a fair comparison if you do all of the states

[buoyant moth]

you cant really get an average

[somber pumice]

my state is 20/hr minimum wage

if that helps

[brazen ice]

cuz minimum is like 400 euros a month here

[quick wadi]

that’s mine now too ^

[vapid bronze]

Tipping system dookie.

[brazen ice]

fuck the tipping system

[snow turtle]

do people tip in a boba shop

[somber pumice]

nah

[brazen ice]

wack ass just pay your employees

[somber pumice]

I be looking them dead in the eye

pressing 0%

[snow turtle]

LMAO

[quick wadi]

cash tips

[dry atlas]

please get out of my toxic thread

[somber pumice]

fuck you

[snow turtle]

go be toxic in a corner

[hoary frost]

why isnt there emergency meeting livestream

[vapid bronze]

If they start doing this, a lot of business would be gone lol

[blissful mango]

-bam

[tall dew]

This user has been banned.

[brazen ice]

let them fr

[vapid bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lorax-let-it-die-gif-18257321

[buoyant moth]

unemployment 🎀

[brazen ice]

Fuck capitalism🗣️

see, were back on topic

lmao

[buoyant moth]

LMAO

[snow turtle]

rraaaah capitalism 🦅 🇺🇸

nuh uuuh

[buoyant moth]

what the fuck is a kilometer 🇺🇸🦅

[vapid bronze]

I can hear the j hope victory royale edit

[waxen musk]

someone post nmixx lily clip about capitalism

[hoary frost]

let's say MHJ is forced to leave. as she is executive producer of NJ and well all concepts and stuff has her in credits, will NJ be forced to scrap it and re-do everything or just delay

[buoyant moth]

rahh capitalism

nuh uhh

[snow turtle]

nuh uuuh

[brazen ice]

good question, i have no idea

[buoyant moth]

well yea kind of

[acoustic valve]

everything mhj created for NJ belongs to ador, ie. belongs to hybe

[brazen ice]

i dont think theyd scrap it

[uncut summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877465932543455243/1137435548340994079/230428-nmixxpics_-1652030726752309248-1.mp4?ex=66366ee7&is=6623f9e7&hm=feac64da91286539ef61b6497d6cd44edc2621dccbd5a191c7fe7b61d9e7ec44&

[acoustic valve]

It will be like when steve jobs died, they just take what they have and continue moving forward

[vapid bronze]

"Rahh capitalism, nuh uh."

[hoary frost]

steve jobs wasnt kicked

[acoustic valve]

same result

[dry atlas]

this

[waxen musk]

kicked the bucket

[tiny peak]

steve jobs was kicked once

[dry atlas]

they'd keep it

[lethal terrace]

I could’ve sworn he was kicked out as CEO once then brought back later

[hoary frost]

mhj next

[acoustic valve]

its like when the director of a movie gets fired halfway, they'd just get a new one, maybe they do the same thing, maybe different, maybe it's better, maybe its worse. no way to know until it happens

[somber pumice]

wasnt steve job’s cancer preventable but he didnt go through with the procedure for it

[lethal terrace]

Anyway it’s more like anything you create while employed and paid on company time doesn’t belong to you but the company.

[hoary frost]

well thats what i mean. when lsm got fired, aespa had to redo everything

[quick wadi]

or in some cases, new director does bad so they bring back old director

[tiny peak]

i'm sure you can replace MHJ creative talent, but somehow she was able to keep Ador mostly independent creatively (maybe because of her professional reputation) ... that's what I hope they can keep

[quick wadi]

[waxen musk]

NewJeans can very easily exist for Hybe under new creative leadership. Simple as that.

[dry atlas]

i need to hear the tree planting song

[acoustic valve]

true also possible

[dry atlas]

but from what i've read his concept was shit

[hoary frost]

i just hope BANA will continue producing for NJ

hybe uses same songwriters for all their groups

[tiny peak]

i'm worried about that

[waxen musk]

I dont know the name Bana sorry

what do they specifically do

[hoary frost]

their A&R

[vapid bronze]

Keep my 2 homie FRNK and 250 safe

[waxen musk]

whats that sorry for asking again

[dry atlas]

the music making side

[waxen musk]

i basically only know of 250, frnk, francie scoca, some of the lyricists' names. is that all under the BANA umbrella or something?

[dry atlas]

FRNK, 250, and the connections they had to the european songwriters like erika de casier and that other girl were all through BANA

[lethal terrace]

For real

[waxen musk]

oh ok cool somehow never saw that name come up. is it in the credits?

[hoary frost]

250 and FRNK are under BANA. newjeans international a&r hanna cho (who arranged writing camp for Get Up) etc are BANA employees. NJ executive co-producer and A&R supervisor is Keyon Kim, CEO of BANA

[waxen musk]

got it

[outer bone]

no i dont think so but hhybe might abandon some of the stuff she planned

[tiny peak]

like I just hope HYBE leaves everything alone, but egos and politics always are a problem in a corporation

[hoary frost]

we will get only 2 mvs per comeback. one high budget, one cheap

[outer bone]

They had to? I thought they re did it bc they didnt like the concept

[hoary frost]

they kept some stuff and redo some

lsm was not credited as exec producer anymore

[outer bone]

this is what im talking ab

[nimble stream]

Oh my god

[hoary frost]

yeah

[tiny peak]

in a different timeline LSM solves global warming 😭

[outer bone]

do u think they also scrapped it so lsm wouldnt get any profit?

[waxen musk]

sorry to oversimplify things but bana makes random songs right and then did mhj just select what she liked+attach concept+visuals to the songs? if the songs still get made but are just chosen by hybe instead, i might be fine with that tbh.

[hoary frost]

could be both reasons

[lethal terrace]

They could choose to cut and add stuff for various reasons but they don’t have to scrap anything or everything

[outer bone]

ya

[tiny peak]

ideal outcome for me would be they keep all the amazing staff and teams

[dry atlas]

https://twitter.com/dollphams/status/1782300159474303440

n 🌬️♪ (@dollphams) on X

coming soon,
super (rnb remix)
super shy (city retro remix)
super shy ft ava max
super shy (sun remix)
super shy (moon remix)

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 6:47 AM

[waxen musk]

lol

[outer bone]

the board of directors are probably the most at risk besides mhj right

[waxen musk]

as long as band ver

[outer bone]

i heard them being described as "mhj loyalists"

[hoary frost]

we dont know how it works. 250 said mhj closely communicated during production even if she is not music producer herself. imo they choose direction in advance and create songs in that directions and then they pick

[outer bone]

leaked nj1 tracklist

[waxen musk]

yeah it's so hard to know exactly what mhj did. like i said i oversimplified it obviously she doesnt just pick and chose from a list of options and that's all there is to it.

[tiny peak]

she seemed very hands on and meticulous

[somber phoenix]

omgggg nooooo 😦

[waxen musk]

would love to know how involved she is because i would love to know if nj can stay the same without mhj's direction

[dry atlas]

someone give me the best tldr ill pin it

[hoary frost]

i think she has more stylistic input and offers general ideas and vision which is completed with the help of actual producers

she did vocal directing for get up too iirc

to me it seems like she is heavily involved in music side

[fossil bolt]

Hoping for more lsf and nj interaction now

[hoary frost]

more than it shows

[outer bone]

is lsf still on tour?

[tiny peak]

i wonder what the korean public opinion is

[nimble stream]

I cant read pins on mobile

[left crow]

Watch them put a guy as the new ceo for ador

[kind hill]

You can

[fossil bolt]

I think there back in Korea

[dry atlas]

settings

go to settings

[tiny peak]

LSM for ADOR CEO

[kind hill]

What

[hoary frost]

kentz brought back the rumor that said that hybe labels were fiercely competing with each other

[tiny peak]

i see thank you

[brazen ice]

Well it isnt impossible

[dry atlas]

i wont be surprised if it's true

[hoary frost]

OP that posted it got lashings back then but it does make sense

[outer bone]

oo maybe well get interactions then

[nimble stream]

Oh lol its really counterintuitive

[acoustic valve]

turn ador into a co-op without a ceo ⚒️

[nimble stream]

Thanks

[waxen musk]

What's wrong with competition?

What do they mean by this?

[left crow]

How many female ceo's are in hybe?

Isn't it only mhj?

[outer bone]

what companies are under hybe ilost count

[waxen musk]

I feel like me not knowing kind of answers the question Kira.

It's safe to assume.

[kind hill]

Yeah

[left crow]

Let's say she's the only female ceo, and has the ability to go farther without hybe.

[kind hill]

Well i think

[hoary frost]

none

[left crow]

No wonder she wants out

[hoary frost]

mhj in emergency meeting

[acoustic valve]

hyein for ceo 2024 letsgo

[quick wadi]

i like that campaign

[left crow]

Coz anytime she can be replaced by a dude

[outer bone]

they started the meeting?

[nimble stream]

Mhj sus

[lethal terrace]

Competition could mean “fighting” for like resources

[hoary frost]

kpop labels always get flack bc men overpower women in salary and high positions

[vapid bronze]

So much drama

[tiny peak]

yeah resources, political power, etc

[outer bone]

im vouching for this

[torpid tinsel]

korea is a ||misogynistic|| country after all...

[brazen ice]

I wonder if hybe plays favourites with their companies

[left crow]

It might be she wanted to do the dealings immediately coz she knows she got creative power but guess what, she can't fully do it if she's part of hybe.

[tiny peak]

in any company, there are always favorites

[hoary frost]

do u think hybe was dissatisfied that mhj kept them at arms length?

[left crow]

So would it be bad if mhj did do the bad things to make the good things happen?

[hoary frost]

nj does not operate like other hybe groups, even pledis koz seem closer to hybe than ador

[left crow]

I mean someone gotta be evil to make the good happen

[brazen ice]

The bad is too bad

Full on leaking private info

[tiny peak]

Ador did so many unconventional things

[waxen musk]

Is MHJ doing this or VP

[left crow]

Just like how other people leak info of their groups and where they will be before they even be there

[outer bone]

🤏

[brazen ice]

Just because many people do it, doesn't make it any better

[waxen musk]

What PERSONAL private info is even useful in this strategy I don't understand.

[hoary frost]

both are mentioned and someone Mr. A who transferred from HYBE IR to ADOR

[brazen ice]

I honestly do not know either. I guess its to win them over?

[outer bone]

doing the leaking?

[nimble stream]

She is a spy maybe

[tiny peak]

yeah a lot of what I read doesn't make sense, I wonder if it's a translation issue

[left crow]

But I didn't say she's a good person, I'm just saying she's probably doing this for the sake of her group and not to her own benefit

[waxen musk]

ooh phoning

[quick wadi]

hey guys bubble gum is trending !! 😸🫧🫧🫧

[waxen musk]

light jeans

[orchid field]

Kek new lightjeans guys nothing to see here

[brazen ice]

That part is just speculation to be fair

[acoustic valve]

everything is speculation tbf

[left crow]

I mean I also didn't say anything true or facts I'm just speculating also lmao

[torpid tinsel]

or mediaplay

[outer bone]

the vp shares exclusive hybe contract details and mhj uses it to get investor support is what im hearing

but what the investors do with that info

[lethal terrace]

Yeah maybe I’m too much of an idealist but how do we know that bad is the only way to do good? Someone would have y to be pretty arrogant to think they always know what’s for the best or what is worth potentially hurting others for

[outer bone]

idrk

[tiny peak]

I guess value the investment?

[foggy gyro]

Seems people forgot when ADOR was created Hybe owned 100% and then later gave 18% to MHJ. We can see where MHJ is going with this

[orchid field]

I too am a mhj loyalist

[hoary frost]

im newjeans loyalist

[outer bone]

ya and apparently its not just contract info its hybe trade secrets

[left crow]

But it's always good to give a benefit of a doubt though, just like how I gave a benefit of a doubt to a person in here but still lied about themselves losing their job

[acoustic valve]

good janitor

[tiny peak]

i love what MHJ did, but i think she is replaceable, but it has to be someone with enough clout to stand up to HYBE corporate and keep creative control

[orchid field]

I take it back im whatever is good for newjeans loyalist

[somber pumice]

[outer bone]

"L is suspected of feeding Ador confidential documents, trade secrets and other info necessary to separate Ador from Hybe since he began at Hybe."

[outer bone]

😭 real

[left crow]

Now this is facts right wenton

[somber pumice]

I will remember his name for as long as I’m into newjeans

[hoary frost]

we dont have full picture. we have hybe's side and whatever they spill to media. ador has not said anything or even justified themselves

we will see what happens

[tiny peak]

exactly, HYBE is spilling this intentionally

[hoary frost]

naturally public opinion matters the most

they have power no one has and ador thinking to going against them is tbh foolish

[tiny peak]

it's so funny, antis are always bringing up HYBE monopoly, media play, etc ... except when it doesn't fits their narrative

[lethal terrace]

Don’t let one person ruin it for you. Life just happens sometimes even with precautions

[outer bone]

do you think theyll/mhj will make a statement before the audit is completed or before the meeting where they try and get her to step down

[hoary frost]

kpop stans always switch their narratives based on what they want in the said moment

[shy schooner]

They should hold a press con

[somber pumice]

i was kidding I didn’t even remember he existed til kira mentioned it but thank you

[outer bone]

ador or hybe?

[hoary frost]

hybe will just announce emergency meeting result and then mhj or ador might

[waxen musk]

all of this is so unknown to me i've not been around long enough with kpop and didnt follow 5050 stuff at all tbh

[hoary frost]

5050 case is a bit different

[outer bone]

would ador even be allowed to make a statement since hybe practically owns most of it??

[lethal terrace]

Ok ok I’m glad!

[acoustic valve]

???

[tiny peak]

my delulu self is hoping this is just negotiation tactics LOL and everything will go on as normal

[somber pumice]

marketplace scammer unrelated to the topic at hand

[waxen musk]

well it legit is negotiation of business regardless

[shy schooner]

Real life K drama

[outer bone]

all this so close to cb season although i have no doubt nj will be successful no matter the outcome im still a little scared

[tiny peak]

as long as the music is good (which it will be!)

[hoary frost]

idk. maybe.

[acoustic valve]

possible and right now, most likely result imo

[waxen musk]

if they do everything they were gonna do for this comeback, this situation wont really change anything. it's only future projects that potentially change.

[fossil bolt]

This is all part of the comeback plan

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/wekimekienjoyer/status/1782316113445146751?s=46&t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA

vicky (@wekimekienjoyer) on X

this being the most promotion we’ve gotten this year.. ador we fawking love you

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 7:50 AM

[waxen musk]

smh ador always does things their own way

[hoary frost]

there is some positivity in everything igngififkfk

[outer bone]

im just scared this will overshadow the cb and mess up promotions

[waxen musk]

tbh any press positive or negative brings attention to the comeback

[tiny peak]

i hope korea steps up for their beloved newjeans

[vapid bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-miles-morales-nah-im-gonna-do-my-own-thing-my-own-thing-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-gif-18304303232954590528

[hoary frost]

well i hope mhj does not abandon nj and find ways to stay even if she is demoted. please repent

[left crow]

Em, me and wenton just laugh it off.

[acoustic valve]

gotta remember both nj and mhj are worth a lot to hybe, so they will want to keep both if possible. This is about money, not justice or vengeance, if mhj agrees to whatever new contract hybe will draw up for her, things will just go on as is

[waxen musk]

i feel like she's too emotionally attached. you hear her nhk interview she has clear grand plans to do new things.

[acoustic valve]

the problem is honestly mhj and whether she accepts imo

[shy schooner]

less creative freedom

[acoustic valve]

tru

[hoary frost]

i hope she does whats the best for nj if she genuinely cares for them

[outer bone]

nj is her baby i doubt shed leave plus i feel like shed settle and stay since she has so many plans like debuting boyjeans

[nimble stream]

hypeboys?

[tiny peak]

right, think of how much money boyjeans will bring in, HYBE can't be that dumb

[waxen musk]

i feel like emotions are playing into mhj + nj in ways that i never heard about with other groups

[outer bone]

if they were to demote her shed at least be creative director right at the very least

[hoary frost]

i want to believe that this was all set up by Mr. A or whatever and she was fooled

let me cope please

[waxen musk]

u can cope but that doesnt make sense lol

[nimble stream]

If she leaked information I doubt she'Ll be anywwhere near the company

[tiny peak]

they will keep her if its in their interest, "leak" or not

[hoary frost]

it says that mr. a was the one leaking

maybe she was seeking independence but not in that way and mr. a overdid

[waxen musk]

i believe hybe thinks they can succeed with nj without mhj

[outer bone]

ughhh true but shes like the heart of ador getting rid of her wont be that easy

[shy schooner]

unless MHJ knew about the leaking

[acoustic valve]

if hybe settles with mhj and were to mediaplay themselves out of this mess and try to rescue her image; that's probably how they'll play it

[fossil bolt]

Hopefully she realizes what she has done and puts the blame on Mr a lol

[outer bone]

lol

[shy schooner]

They need to stop the bleeding because stocks will continue to drop

[hoary frost]

not when they blaming it on her and saying that ador was leaking private info of other hybe artists

is there still hope

pls fjjfjd i hope newjeans is in safe hands

[torpid tinsel]

I don't mind 100 remixes, I just want nj to be safe

[hoary frost]

jfjdjdkdkdkdp

[acoustic valve]

they came out swinging and on the offensive, but everything's a negotiation in business, and the fact mhj's name and skills are worth a lot of money is true. Everything bends under the logic of money in corporate business

[hoary frost]

true

but hybe can also easily replace her with another creative director

nj is nj. the foundation is laid

[nimble stream]

they are definitely not cutting newjeans off... their management will probably change and it will have an impact but we will still have newjeans I believe

[lethal terrace]

Did Hybe say that directly though? Closest we got was “right hand man” which seriously implies that but not hey we know she did this and are suing her for it

[dry atlas]

i should find a backup group

i'll look into plave

[tiny peak]

HYBE "believes in music", this will all work out in the end /s

[nimble stream]

look into rescene

[hoary frost]

they didnt say mhj directly but said mr. A leaked it

and listed all what was leaked

[nimble stream]

Haven't they already asked MHJ to sign off?

resign

[shy schooner]

They did

or legal route

[lucid yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

[lethal terrace]

Yeah I’d say still hope everything is resolved behind the scenes without public fighting

[tiny peak]

we definitely do need more women CEOs in kpop, not fewer

[dry atlas]

ping me when another [Exclusive] article comes out

[torpid tinsel]

💀💀💀💀

https://twitter.com/kpoppredicting/status/1764485956726567132

Sunny's K-Pop Tarot | READ pinned & bio first! (@kpoppredicting) on X

[THREAD] At some point in the future, ADOR CEO Min Hee Jin will have to let other people decide with her or at least tell them their opinions and advice from time to time. Right now, it seems that she finds it difficult to give away certain responsibilities (2oS and QoC).

Twitter · Mar 4, 2024, 3:00 AM

[hoary frost]

youre the one who pings us

[shy schooner]

I need to follow them

[dry atlas]

what mhj allegedly planned to do: https://marketinsight.hankyung.com/article/202404227821r

[waxen musk]

ive only been into kpop because of nj for a year, pretty easy for me to get out of it. fucking nightmare for so many fans over the years it seems.

[dry atlas]

@dry atlas

[waxen musk]

but honestly the more i understand the more fucked it seems mhj is

if alegations are true

[cosmic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/none-of-my-business-tea-kermit-frog-gif-5084362

[hoary frost]

so dumb

really dumb

sabotaging nj career when they are not even fully established

[dry atlas]

what does 30%+1 even get you that 20% doesnt

[nimble stream]

its not even more than half

[dry atlas]

is there that much of a difference?

[nimble stream]

any lawyers around here? lol

[shy schooner]

greed

[silent spade]

She wants 50%+1 no?

[waxen musk]

i dunno but i saw 33% being important being talked about somewhere i dunno maybe that's an important number

[hoary frost]

51 perfect means hybe is no longer parent company

[blissful mango]

if u own more than 50% share u technically owns the company

[torpid tinsel]

I'll just wait for the official announcement, hate too much yapping

[lethal terrace]

It’s cool to take breaks from the news and just focus on the music cause that’s clearly what we love the most about NewJeans

[outer bone]

if mhj actually gets the boot im gonna be delusional and believe this

[hoary frost]

they are just affiliate of hybe but not sub label anymore

[dry atlas]

can you read what i sent

[outer bone]

im in a straight jacket rocking back and forth rn

[dry atlas]

OH

ok so her 20% plus investor's 30% + 1

ok ok

[hoary frost]

ador has 20, they need 31 to secure independence

[blissful mango]

yea

[waxen musk]

oh yeah for sure i just think there might be a pause of new music + change in the sound i love from nj. all depends on how much mhj actually mattered in the end.

[nimble stream]

ohh

[hoary frost]

aka be free from Sub label status

[outer bone]

OHHHH

[hoary frost]

belift was affiliate company, not sub label until hybe bought back cj shares

[torpid tinsel]

she wanna be free from hybe can't sing allegations

[outer bone]

wait but cant hybe try and buy out investors?

[acoustic valve]

she wants management rights, which requires 51% of shares to belong to shareholders that will side with her, hybe selling 31% of shares achieves that

[hoary frost]

which investors

[nimble stream]

Hybe owns the 30%+1

[dry atlas]

is this YG-black label situation?

[hoary frost]

yeah

[cobalt flicker]

Huh?!?

[dry atlas]

honestly take everything with a pinch of salt

[blissful mango]

Hybe currently holds 80% and mhj holds 20% if not mistaken

[hoary frost]

this part seems exaggerated to form gp opinion in hybe favor tbh there was no such leak to media

[dry atlas]

right now assume all info is released by hybe

[outer bone]

leaking artist info? of hybe artists or ador?

[acoustic valve]

?

[hoary frost]

hybe but ador does not have info on other hybe artists

[waxen musk]

hybe cant just blurt out random shit like this tho. it comes from somewhere

[dry atlas]

they literally can

[acoustic valve]

u underestimiate corporate mediaplay

[waxen musk]

obviously i do

[hoary frost]

every label has private management, i doubt ador can access belift information or vice versa

[shy schooner]

Hybe just need to come out with a press con to answer these questions

[waxen musk]

that's what mr a or whatever came to ador with, info about other parts of hybe

[outer bone]

sorry i replied to the wrong thing

[hoary frost]

exactly. isnt that sus

[waxen musk]

ofc

[nimble stream]

Mr. Ador

[dry atlas]

https://twitter.com/OutsoldWithEase/status/1782316051511816610?t=GbMkigTbaapn3duHa9KHLQ&s=19

Outsold™️ ☘︎ (@OutsoldWithEase) on X

NewJeans are the FIRST and ONLY group in K-Pop history with BOTH a CEO and creative director who could possibly be going to jail.

— They did this in only 640 days. 🔥

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 7:50 AM

woohoo

[waxen musk]

i didnt think about mr a's doing being hybe's doing until now but yeah sus

[outer bone]

i dont get this part at all what info was even leaked?

[hoary frost]

nothing that we know of

[lucid yarrow]

is ador big group ded now?

[hoary frost]

it might have been leaked to potential investors not media

[waxen musk]

aparantly other groups' artist personal info (not nj) to make hybe look bad (if i had to guess health info makes them look bad)

[outer bone]

😭

[blissful mango]

as of my understanding, its not leaked to public, its an insider leak. I could be wrong

[waxen musk]

can the insider release bubble gum early pls

[foggy gyro]

there's also accusations of private trainees info being leaked

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/OutsoldWithEase/status/1782316051511816610

Outsold™️ ☘︎ (@OutsoldWithEase) on X

NewJeans are the FIRST and ONLY group in K-Pop history with BOTH a CEO and creative director who could possibly be going to jail.

— They did this in only 640 days. 🔥

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 7:50 AM

[hoary frost]

assuming as a part of attracting investors for future groups

kinda fked up tbh

[hoary frost]

i really dont want mhj to go to jail

they could seek independence in normal way even if it doesnt work out

[shy schooner]

All these info should be confidential

[hoary frost]

leaking confidential info is such a set up

[blissful mango]

she can bail out anyway

[hoary frost]

ur so smart :0

[shy schooner]

LSM and MHJ can set up own company now

[outer bone]

oh? maybe the dementias coming in early but nothings coming to mind for me that would prove such a theory

[fossil bolt]

With 5050 producer

[outer bone]

New eco friendly gg coming soon

[nimble stream]

with 5050 members more like

[acoustic valve]

take media reports with a pinch of salt, details, some true, some false are being leaked to construct narratives beneficial to hybe. Ador might start doing it themselves later too. This is how things work

[hoary frost]

ofc hybe stans blaming their faves controversies on ador now. no offense but nothing in that empty brain

[quick wadi]

*x -c https://x.com/its_min22/status/1782325864832831725?s=46&t=VsbvELkNCgirMw8_X5n2-Q

[harsh dove]

@its_min22 <t:1713774574:d>

Currently Meanwhile
ADOR NewJeans

[nimble stream]

this is fine

[somber pumice]

if you pretend this isn’t happening then it won’t happen

🙂

[lethal terrace]

Yeah pin this!

[nimble stream]

I'm not here this isn't hapenning

[hoary frost]

if i dont know its not real, but i know

[outer bone]

are they having the meeting rn?

[hoary frost]

idk if it was said when it would be

[waxen musk]

if they arent they need to hurry tf up

[hard frigate]

wenton speaking the truth

[torpid tinsel]

will this affect bubble gum's release

[outer bone]

ughh idk im scared tho

[nimble stream]

I'm really hungry I could go for some noodles

[outer bone]

depends how fast this can play out

[outer bone]

same i want buldak

[hoary frost]

its not affecting jeans zine release

so probably wont

[nimble stream]

https://tenor.com/view/pool-dog-chilling-gif-13182975692377334481

oh this dog has some noodles

[shy schooner]

As long as they still have content and schedules

[waxen musk]

ok so far ive only read reddit's comments and it's all f mhj she's going to jail... you know.
the only defence ive seen so far is in here saying wait and see, you can see how hybe could be lying to make ador look bad.
it's just a he said she said so far with the only thing being said pointing in the worst direction.
ill wait and see what ador has to say but jesus...

[lethal terrace]

Everything is planned in advanced, so next weeks will probably run as planned. If things escalate, then things will get shifted or paused

[hoary frost]

kpop stans hate her so its not a surprise they are not offering single reasonable opinion

i bet most of them also think mhj downfall means nj downfall

[shy schooner]

At least hate only directed at MHJ

[lethal terrace]

Reddit comments are just a reflection of some public opinions but facts and evidence still haven’t become public. I’ll wait on that

[left crow]

Guilty or not with mhj, she will have to step down so nothing gets tied to newjeans.

[outer bone]

ppl get too comfy sometimes and use her as an excuse to blatantly shit on nj which im scared is gonna happen now

[waxen musk]

get used to it

[tiny peak]

yes, they're really just hoping the worst for NJ, kpop fan mentality

[waxen musk]

if you havent already got used to it

[hoary frost]

since debut like a clockwork

[waxen musk]

anyway unless ador literally says what empress has been saying, i have nothing to go on but to believe what i have read and hope it's all lies

[hoary frost]

we will be coping!

bernice will save us

[left crow]

Well tbh, even if mhj didn’t do anything people will still talk shit about newjeans coz they don’t like them. It’s just on the more reason to do so now that this is happening now.

I’m just a fan of newjeans, not even ador or mhj haha

[waxen musk]

the thing is ive always been cautious and i looked up a dm i had some someone i literally said "if mhj fucks up even a little bit from now on i'll be the fucking maddest that's for sure"

[left crow]

As long as I can listen to this group I’m good

[waxen musk]

i say that because ive become attached to the members and they are the nicest people ive ever witnessed online

[acoustic valve]

relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-0Fb7tZv3c&ab_channel=DisneyMusicVEVO

[waxen musk]

i wish i didnt care so much but too invested now

[left crow]

This drama should stay between hybe and mhj, just don’t include newjeans in it.

[waxen musk]

well theyll be questioned ofc to see if they even knew anything about all this

[sudden frigate]

https://fxtwitter.com/LeSserafimTokki/status/1782296760540635515

[waxen musk]

lets hope mhj hasnt been sharing her secrets with the members lol

[sudden frigate]

Not them being interrogated 😭

[tiny peak]

the thing is, they'll find something else to talk shit about, that's how it works

[lethal terrace]

Yeah stay strong guys. We don’t need internal fan fighting when the group is getting external backlash. Whatever happens between Ador and Hybe is a separate issue

[sudden frigate]

And because Danielle is overseas, INTERPOL will be onto her 😭
just kidding guys, trynna be lighthearted out of a sh** situation

[nimble stream]

name checks out

[kind hill]

What do they mean by reprecussions?

[nimble stream]

like an impact on the comeback

maybe delays?

[tiny peak]

or just repurcussions in general

[kind hill]

Dang…

[lucid yarrow]

why can't this be they name a pond after minji instead and they found some gold bars in it

[sudden frigate]

https://fxtwitter.com/myyouwithjk/status/1782325893706522957

[left crow]

I mean that’s been with everything even when kpop wasn’t famous before 2008

[nimble stream]

whoa

how do they overlap?

[unkempt roost]

guys.... this is "industry insiders says"......

[fossil bolt]

Emphasis on reportedly

[unkempt roost]

meaning any person dog or cat couldve said that

that's bordering on koreaboo's level of reporting

pls dont take it seriously

[unkempt roost]

referring to this

[unkempt roost]

^^^^ rmb this

[lethal terrace]

Honestly vague text like expected repercussions is just clickbait. Like what does that even mean haha of course it’s a big deal so it will get media coverage but this is too early to say anything bad is going to happen

[acoustic valve]

time to open the media literacy schools, this incident could be an enlightening experience for some bunnies if nothing else

[unkempt roost]

yes this is a good chance to practice critical thinking, filter the bullshit out of the real news

[tough iris]

lule mhj flew too close to the sun

[hoary frost]

image overlaps

lsfm and nj images dont overlap

but illit and nj does

[sudden frigate]

☝️

[dry atlas]

source

[unkempt roost]

source is in the twt replies

[sudden frigate]

☝️

[hoary frost]

its speculation, but its not something unthinkable

[unkempt roost]

but regardless of source, from the text it's just additional salt and pepper added to the article by some unnamed "industry insider"

[nimble stream]

I prefer critical drinking

[dry atlas]

deadline set for audit questionnaire: 4/23
https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/241/0003345689

[nimble stream]

Children's day

[hoary frost]

can they sort it out before bubble gum. thanks

[sudden frigate]

That's tomorrow

[left crow]

This is a good thing so everyone can concentrate on this while I concentrate on getting a ticket to bunnies camp, please forget about the concert so I can get good seats

[lethal terrace]

Kira buys out the entire stadium

[left crow]

They will forget to pay for the seats yes! Right? Right?

Hahaha

[lucid yarrow]

maybe we should help buy ador not....

[lethal terrace]

Wow and they get banned so future luck increased

[left crow]

lol don’t be doing what we did for izone, pooled millions to make the group continue but still didn’t happen

We got our money back though, all donations was returned

[dry atlas]

I'll be treasurer if we need to do that for nj

pls send your money to me

[tiny peak]

the whole "ETA controversy" nearly drove me insane because of the lack of critical thinking, of course the stakes are much higher now

[nimble stream]

I can be creative director

[waxen musk]

not to bring up eta but i at least understand where people were coming from because of the quantity of coincidences. but still what matters is that it didnt matter at all in the end for the song/mv.

[brazen ice]

that whole controversy is lowkey so funny cuz fr how has that coincedence come up at such a degree lmao

[lethal terrace]

Creative director and CEO to keep with the tradition 😉

[nimble stream]

if you look hard enough, random relations can be found in many places

[unkempt roost]

ETA controversy is very different from this. This whole thing is a fact-based investigation, it's either they did it or not, ETA is a lot more of a greyzone which even if given the facts, depending on who you ask u might get a diff response

it's a lot easier to filter the bullshit out from this incident than in ETA

[acoustic valve]

a good rule of thumb is that all reporting has an agenda and bias, objective reporting does not exist.
What is the source? - is it reliable? are there repercussions if the source lies?
What is the purpose? - what motivations might such a source have for saying this? how do they benefit?
How does it portray alternative perspectives? - is it dismissive? do they even exist in this piece of media?
What techniques or strategies are employed? - use of persuasive techniques such as language, imagery, tones, etc.
What kind of impact will it have on its readers or subjects? - who stands to benefit or suffer from the information?

[tiny peak]

but we did get the facts eventually, and ETA is not a greyzone at all right?

[hoary frost]

unfortunately people are sheep

they dont think for themselves

[tiny peak]

i think many are sheep, but many just have an agenda

[hoary frost]

or even think logically

[unkempt roost]

instead of overanalysing every article that comes out right now(which most of them will be reporting on the same thing with extra commentary), best thing u can do right now is just wait for the facts to come out, go do your homework, play some games, check back in once in awhile to see if any new facts has been released

[acoustic valve]

im voting hyein 2024, thats all i know

[unkempt roost]

bottomline is the nwjns brand and the girls are very likely going to be not affected by this regardless of the outcome

[unkempt roost]

i didn't follow the controversy enough to know

[kind hill]

i learned a lot from ashbash and taroboba

[waxen musk]

oh god pls no

i dont even know what im talking baout

im literally just putting my thoughts out there because otherwise it'll torment me internally

i dont know shit, seriously

[brazen ice]

bros using discord as a journal

[unkempt roost]

yes im glad the ppl here are very reasonable, that's something I can't say for every other kpopcord out there

[hoary frost]

facts are that ETA means est. time of arrival. mikel name come from director's fav football team manager Mikel Arteta (Arsenal).

none of this was connected to terrorism. but kpop stans simply based it on song name and mix of Portuguese and catalan names and pure fact that "mhj is controversial omg she would def do that for rage bait"

[nimble stream]

that was a real tinfoil moment

[brazen ice]

very comical

[kind hill]

true LOL

[kind hill]

ur thoughts have points tho

[hoary frost]

anyways...i guess we wont have new info until morning

[waxen musk]

cant even remember what i said

[kind hill]

LOL

[waxen musk]

ive been up all night

[hoary frost]

its perfect time to drop teaser

[waxen musk]

bubble gum mv IS the teaser

[hoary frost]

no!

[waxen musk]

just like omg was teased in ditto

[tiny peak]

yeah it's after business hours in korea (sorry wrong reply)

[hoary frost]

we need album art reveal

[waxen musk]

why do people want teaser so close to release anyway. serious question. ive seen it from multiple people.

[nimble stream]

I wouldnt be surprised if they dropped the mv in the next 24 hours

[hoary frost]

bernice in suit, looking at stock market

[brazen ice]

isnt it the clover?

[hoary frost]

what is

[brazen ice]

the album art

cover whatever

[hoary frost]

yeah

i mean no

its not? its for bunnies camp i think

thats some ugly ass cover if true

[acoustic valve]

u know what would be cool? If this whole shenanigan was indeed a rube goldberg controversy bait in order to get attention for NJ's CB... u know, something kpop fans think mhj would definitely do

[hoary frost]

cope

[brazen ice]

i mean, wasnt there a controversy for like every cb lmao

[waxen musk]

i wonder if all the promos for bunnies camp will end when bubble gum mv comes out. like change yt / twt banner etc. or if theyll keep it as bunnies camp until may 24 or whatever

[acoustic valve]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[waxen musk]

what was it for omg/ditto? i wasnt there i cant remember if there was one

but yeah for debut and get up for sure

[nimble stream]

debut had cookie

[valid sierra]

damn we are up. also #12 and 17

[brazen ice]

yeah dont remember on for those

[valid sierra]

best promotion since debut

[hoary frost]

i wish they included comeback info in title for promo

[clear sentinel]

there was the romanticising mental illness thing for omg

[nimble stream]

Oh yeahh

[waxen musk]

oh yeah that's fair enough, not too big a deal

[dry atlas]

ok im closing this thread

[clear sentinel]

that being my first message

[waxen musk]

sure, but you know whatll happen mel

[hoary frost]

why

[nimble stream]

thanks for giving me the last message

[dry atlas]

I'm jk yappers chill

[hoary frost]

[kind hill]

LOL

[nimble stream]

how it feels to spread misinformation

[tiny peak]

the things that upset me about that, is OMG had commentary on Kpop artist mental health, but of course no one latched onto that

[waxen musk]

should just name myself "yappers"

[nimble stream]

All my lunch break I read this thread now need to go back to scohol

[hoary frost]

kpop stans were saying mhj used omg to justify herself when shin wooseok was the brain behind omg and ditto mvs

and mhj gave him full creative freedom

he said that word for word in interview

[tiny peak]

right? he was exploring kpop fandom and its effects on fans and artists, was so intelligent and interesting

[hoary frost]

and he was so done w kpop stans making lies

there is just agenda to scandalize and overanalyze everything nj does

[waxen musk]

ill be honest there's so much mixed information all the time wether its about whats happening now or stuff in the past that i have to constantly ask someone like empress what the actual situation is.. but then i wonder if empress is too over-defending everything. it's a constant unsure feeling i have because i dont know where to find the bloody legit facts.

[clear sentinel]

that's why i have no opinion rn

[brazen ice]

yeah i only go by my memory. Which is not exactly the best lmao

[waxen musk]

my memory is god awful

[hoary frost]

i mean i am not only person here. u can hear different opinions and judge for yourself. most important read for yourself and form your own opinions

[clear sentinel]

exactlyy dont just read what others are saying and go w it, read the og source and form your own thoughts

[nimble stream]

Imo all of you should be copying my thoughts

[waxen musk]

that's the thing... where do i even find trustworthy factual information about all this stuff. it's all just people saying stuff on twitter/reddit or whatever.

[hoary frost]

you mean audit topic?

currently we only have articles

[waxen musk]

everything since the beginning, in general

[clear sentinel]

i'd say just read the og translation of the main article

[waxen musk]

audit there's barely anything so far

[hoary frost]

beginning of earth?

[clear sentinel]

.

[hoary frost]

adam creation?

[dry atlas]

what is ashbash on

[hoary frost]

[dry atlas]

gts!!

[waxen musk]

lack of sleep mel

[clear sentinel]

😭

here i thought u were being fr

[waxen musk]

children, please listen to me and sleep enough. i have brain damage.

[acoustic valve]

find reliable sources such as news media and publications, and then apply critical thinking and media literacy on top of it. It's not easy, but assuming everything you read on social media is false until proven true with proof is a good place to start

[brazen ice]

nah i get what you mean ash

[lucid yarrow]

if hanni is taller then most ppl nj must be giants, and this is just late april fools for cb right🍀

[kind hill]

tell that to mel pls, cuz MAN HE DOES NOT SLEEP

[valid sierra]

holyyyy

[waxen musk]

mel tell me your secret of being normal with brain damage from lack of sleep

[kind hill]

LMAO

[quick wadi]

im a professional at this

[waxen musk]

anyway im overexaggerating my concerns with finding the facts it's just i dont trust people who are overly defensinve in this community because obviously you're gonna be biased

same goes for haters

it's hard to find a place that's balanced AND has all the facts

it's usually the people with bias in fandoms that collect the facts

but for some reason that causes me distrust becuase of the bias

[tiny peak]

exactly

[brazen ice]

i genuinely think that there is no place for without bias. With these type of things i mean

[tiny peak]

ADOR is currently being blamed for every bad thing that has happened to a group this year

[hoary frost]

https://x.com/nwjnsbts/status/1782347985541570681?s=46&t=lncf7vo09FEx5ZDvXg81LA

☘︎ (@nwjnsbts) on X

Min Heejin's POV (via exclusive interview with Korean economy):

she refuted the launch of Hybe's audit and the claim of taking over Ador's management rights... conflict with Hybe stemmed from ‘plagiarism controversies betweet the subsidiaries ”
🔗:https://t.co/wkyNfCcLPo

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 9:57 AM

welp

[dry atlas]

i don't overthink

i take everything at face value

[waxen musk]

tell me ur secrets

[kind hill]

https://www.hankyung.com/article/2024042285467

[clear sentinel]

ok so.. it's real

huh

[hoary frost]

she seems done lol

[quick wadi]

live and don’t think

[acoustic valve]

i guess it's war, this gon be messy af

[dry atlas]

damn this is juicy

[hoary frost]

i dont blame her but approach where nj will not be affected would be best option not this

[shy schooner]

X going to be a fun war

[lucid yarrow]

oh no

[clear sentinel]

bruh

[acoustic valve]

i just hope it comes to a conclusion quickly and the girls don't get involved...

[kind hill]

man i dont wanna getmy twt dirty... but if its for nj... f it

gonna def the girls at all cost

[unkempt roost]

oh damn

[tiny peak]

it's actually disappointing, I thought MHJ was cooking up something to push kpop to the next trend

and not worrying about perceived "similarities"

[valid sierra]

oof thats gonna hurt hybe

[brazen ice]

so the whole thing about hybe companies competing with each other sounds more true now

[unkempt roost]

Ador's statement very much sounds like they've burnt bridges with Hybe man

[acoustic valve]

you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

[kind hill]

yeah...

[normal dome]

it’s so over lol…

[hoary frost]

so rumor about label competition was true after all. i wish they had shame tho

[kind hill]

i thought theyre families lmao

[shy schooner]

No more challenges

[brazen ice]

when there is so much money involved nah deffo not

[quick wadi]

is this why we don’t see the girls in collab challenges

[acoustic valve]

few feuds are more bitter than ones between family

[tiny peak]

i honestly thought it was just a bad idea in general, because of the inevitable shady comments

[valid sierra]

also the rumor of bang pd wanting his own NJ group...

[tiny peak]

but maybe there was more to it!

[brazen ice]

who exactly is bang pd? is he hybe ceo?

[kind hill]

f the greedy...

[hoary frost]

conspiracy theories that mhj and bang pd was beefing

its all coming true WELP

[shy schooner]

Guess no more interactions

[acoustic valve]

in any case, whether it's 100% true or not. This was MHJ's response and what she thinks gives her the most leverage, not ideal, for her own sake

[brazen ice]

did she even deny that she did it lmao

[shy schooner]

The relationship and trust is gone

[waxen musk]

mhj should get used to people "plagarising" more. people already say how influential nj is and already changed kpop. she should be proud of that not trying to stop immitators, because they will be just that... immitators and people can tell. but if people dont care does it matter.
this is petty shit

[dry atlas]

https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/003/0012506210

btw this is a better article

[tiny peak]

exactly, she is the trend setter, she should act like it

[hoary frost]

wow

so they sent their position to hybe

[unkempt roost]

tbh this statement is very disappointing from Ador, they did not address the root of the problem i.e. the accusation that MHJ et al are planning independence from HYBE, and the reports that they leaked info etc. The only thing that the statements does is somehow flinging the conversation to an unrelated group, feels like an attempt to drive the conversation elsewhere.

EDIT: they did deny the hybe accusations so i stand corrected

[hoary frost]

and instead hybe started their audit

[acoustic valve]

don't necessarily take her "concerns" at face value either. She may not have actually been as bothered as she's trying to make it sound here. The main issue is that this is her strongest response =/

[tiny peak]

going directly at BangPD is crazy LOL

[unkempt roost]

she could very well be justified in her statements against belift and hybe, but that's not what the ppl are asking right now

[dry atlas]

they did address it

they said "not true"

[unkempt roost]

oh did they?

ah ok

[brazen ice]

mhj is denying it then?

[unkempt roost]

i stand corrected

[tiny peak]

yeah denying it and explaning what triggered this

[dry atlas]

as per ador they raised concern about illit copying to hybe. instead of responding, they started this audit under the guise of mhj trying to seize management rights

[hoary frost]

she said they never tried to seize management rights.

[tiny peak]

this is not going to help their stock price

[valid sierra]

damn, demanding an apology from the chairman is wild

[hoary frost]

i guess more info will come out as they start information war

[unkempt roost]

imo this is the worst possible development, it means ador and hybe have pretty much burnt bridges and making their beef public

[acoustic valve]

Hmm, honestly, I don't think MHJ has a strong plagiarism case. But if there's proof that Hybe used some kind of proprietary or unique asset that belongs to Ador in order to develop their other groups; she might have a stronger case. Messy af no matter what

[shy schooner]

Now the groups will be affected

[kind hill]

yeah

[valid sierra]

one thing about MHJ is she really treasure the members and NewJeans' image. so i guess shes telling the truth

[brazen ice]

yeah i think thats the bigger issue now. They turned a company dog fight into smthn else

[tiny peak]

yeah I'm dying to know what happened behind the scenes with ILLIT's debut

[acoustic valve]

man, shit in Kpop really does move at lightspeed; not only the trends, groups, cb-cycles... but also the business controversies and scandals

[unkempt roost]

i hope the fandoms dont get baited into a fanwar, it was never about the girls at all, this is a corporate dog fight, it shouldnt affect the brand of each group

[brazen ice]

kpop is extremely fast its crazy

[dry atlas]

all this shit should've been kept internal

[torpid tinsel]

so hybe mediaplay

[dry atlas]

smh

[unkempt roost]

hard agree

[shy schooner]

Getting messier by the minute

[kind hill]

def, this just made both groups look bad

[brazen ice]

tbh it was bound to start just with illits debut. The whole company thing fuels it fully now

[lucid yarrow]

if nj cb was delay for lllit that be something

[acoustic valve]

this is an all round failure of business from all parties involved. this should never have reached this stage

[unkempt roost]

hybe couldve done the "audit" quietly but the fact that they publicized it before the audit is completed does feel like they are trying to control the narrative

[waxen musk]

if all this is JUST because of nj+illit "plagarism" that's so bs

there has to be more

[brazen ice]

the other article said tensions began early this year

[waxen musk]

i wonder if break in jan for members was because so much other bs was going on in the bg they werent really as busy for the girls work

i was hoping they taking break because they deserve it not because it was convinient timing

but also their beef with no collabs etc makes sense ofc

it's sad

[acoustic valve]

also means they came to the conclusion mhj was unlikely to take the audit lying down... which she didn't even with the pre-emptive media assault. These business people just failed all round because they couldn't compromise behind the scenes

[brazen ice]

tbh this all seems a bit immature. like
OMG you copied me!!

[tiny peak]

this is soooo messy 😭

[kind hill]

i just now got what tim said... (ik im slow) so no wonder they didnt do a SINGLE challenge... im dumb lmao

[waxen musk]

the whole industry (you could argue and not everyone) has

(also i dont even agree, this is just general sentiment online)

(like illit and nj are DIFFERENT to me)

[shy schooner]

Hope we still getting the comeback

[kind hill]

hopefully

[waxen musk]

hybe will lose money if plans change for comeback. plans are set in stone weeks or months in advance.

[tiny peak]

I hope the comeback is really subliminal diss tracks against HYBE

[acoustic valve]

Kpop should copy western pop a bit more, if ur gonna publicize your beefs; just do it through diss tracks

[brazen ice]

i can see a slight similarity in vibe sure. But its not copying, could just be following a trend

[kind hill]

this is a sh*t show ngl

[valid sierra]

but damn, this audit things where they randomly pick up things at the office, i thought it only existed in Kdrama. i guess it really happens irl????

[waxen musk]

im not really supporting mhj if this is her reasoning so far but hybe's response is also just as bs

[clear sentinel]

if belift gets involved im quitting

[brazen ice]

lmaoooooooo we need more diss tracks in kpop yes. The problem is that theyre gonna make the groups sing the tracks instead of the companies themselves💀 . Use them as the weapons

[kind hill]

they r involved

[shy schooner]

3 of them

[unreal stream]

Hip-Hop/Rap and K-Pop Civil War was not on my bingo card for this year lol

[dry atlas]

everything in kdrama happens in real life

[kind hill]

yeah

[clear sentinel]

well yes, i meant if they release their own statement

[dry atlas]

like the kimchi slap

[kind hill]

ohh mbmb

[clear sentinel]

dw youre good

[acoustic valve]

yep, ultimately, this is more about politics, power and control than anything else. Like most things in life

[brazen ice]

actual hybe civil war

[kind hill]

fr

[unkempt roost]

does this mean if one day i take a parachute to north korea then i'll meet the love of my life

[tiny peak]

all the HYBE haters are rejoicing right now

[shy schooner]

Praying on the downfall antis

[kind hill]

LOL

[acoustic valve]

SM and Kakao crumbling right in front of our eyes too, glass houses n all that

[waxen musk]

i hate everyone now (except jeon wick, minji, hanni, dani, haerin and hyein)

[tiny peak]

they can take a break from critiquing "vocal skills" for a bit

[valid sierra]

then i want that kdrama reborn rich guy to acquire ADOR

[hoary frost]

dont summon Kakao

[lucid yarrow]

lol they change thier fandom to "rabbits"

[hoary frost]

what if they get involved

[waxen musk]

this is all a CONSPIRACY to stop the LSF hate

[tiny peak]

did anyone catch that she said the members support this stance

[waxen musk]

oh rly

[brazen ice]

where?

[shy schooner]

Oh its over then

[clear sentinel]

oh what

[tiny peak]

take with a grain of salt of course

[waxen musk]

how many grains of salt do i need

[unkempt roost]

sauce pls

[hoary frost]

she should keep nj separate from this

[brazen ice]

sc that shit

[hoary frost]

i dont approve this tf

[acoustic valve]

honestly, wouldn't even be surprised if Kakao was one of the parties she had meetings with, if only to consider possibilities

[waxen musk]

like i said i think members + mhj are emotionally supportive of each other whether that's a good thing or not

(+ parents)

[shy schooner]

It will come back to bite them

[waxen musk]

mmhm

[hoary frost]

yes but she should not mention nj opinions unless nj decides to state them

[whole field]

yall im kinda lost what’s happening

[hoary frost]

they might get backlash if hybe mediaplay is going to end ador

[brazen ice]

honestly, we are too

[tiny peak]

yes I too am scared of the HYBE corporate power

[hoary frost]

we all are i think

[waxen musk]

u should be

[acoustic valve]

for better or worse, this might be the biggest kpop scandal to happen since Hybe vs SM+Kakao.... which now that I think about it, wasn't that long ago

[shy schooner]

HYBE growing too quick

[lucid yarrow]

-prayjeans

[tall dew]

[whole field]

all i know is hybe wants mhj to resign bla bla bla and mhj saying Nah id refuse

[dry atlas]

Guys pls distract yourself with this https://youtu.be/z32N6Zvcv4U

[brazen ice]

you mean corporate scandal right?

[quick wadi]

I thought you liked your toxic corner

[dry atlas]

I do

[kind hill]

ITS OUT???!?!?!

man

[torpid tinsel]

I hope I'm just a delulu but I feel like they're doing this to cover the current issues of their two ggs