ETA

[feral raptor]

please be respectful and try to listen to the opinion of others. we will warn those who will say harsh and inappropriate things about the members

[granite root]

This thread for ETA's theory?

[muted mica]

Correct

[quartz elbow]

my theory about eta: space trip meeting friends on different planet singing about friendship

I have a plot: car is driving, ufo shows up, car will swallowed by ufo, ufo pilot is bunny from be who you are, they will travel to different galaxy, build friendship with local kids, but will eventually have to leave and song is dedicated to them

[tepid pasture]

What does eta mean?

[quartz elbow]

estimated time of arrival

eu te amo - i love you in portuguese

extra terrestrial alien

[lunar seal]

Most likely estimated time of arrival I’m pretty sure

[quartz elbow]

confirmed

[muted mica]

confirmed

[manic merlin]

there it is

[granite root]

Confirmed

[feral raptor]

confirmed

[lunar seal]

OO YESS

yk how newjeans Are

they always love connecting everything

[drowsy spruce]

I just want to clarify that I’m not hating the girls I just want to clarify that is very suspicious that the names of these people are here. I’m not hating the girls in hating the company and it’s the company fault for putting this there. Also the ETA group commited their crimes in explosive cars in the night, and putting a car driving in the name with that names on the same screen can be very suspicious too. I want to re-clarify that I’m not hating the girls I’m just pointing out the little details that I noticed as a person who knows about the group ETA and their story. Even if this is a technique for winning attention, having another successful comeback is very bad.

[unborn oracle]

the car is from here https://twitter.com/k1Mnjx/status/1672987905986555905 and the names are some of the most common spanish names and aren't related to that org, it's mostly misinformation

𝓶onica (@k1Mnjx)

ETAティーザーの車と12/21公開Holiday Specialに登場してた車そっくりてか、もうそれ。繋がってんのかな〜？
#NewJeans #뉴진스
#NewJeans_ETA #NewJeans_GetUp
#Time_to_NewJeans

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Twitter · Jun 25, 2023, 3:19 PM

[muted mica]

Hey what do you guys think about this tweet though https://twitter.com/NewJeans_ADOR/status/1673140899130544128

NewJeans (@NewJeans_ADOR)

ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival)

Flight No. NJ721
Destination : SK Olympic Handball Gymnasium
ETA : 7/1 18:00 & 7/2 17:00
Status : On Time

#NewJeans #뉴진스
#NewJeans_ETA #NewJeans_GetUp
#Bunnies_Camp #ETA_Stage
#Time_to_NewJeans

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Twitter · Jun 26, 2023, 1:27 AM

and also this IG reel

[unborn oracle]

[uncut plover]

ooh so they changed it?

[muted mica]

changed what

[uncut plover]

i honestly thought those names at the end were the writers of the song 💀 such a weird thing to do

[muted mica]

Who are the names then

[uncut plover]

idk yet?

[muted mica]

Personally I think they might be the actor names

[uncut plover]

maybe new characters in the mv i reckon

[cosmic breach]

newjeans turn into aliens

word

[upbeat hearth]

this marching band type beat is intresting

newjeans have had no skips i hope this dosent ruin it 🙏🏼

its cute but im not the biggest fan

[sage dragon]

They are referencing the concert time for July 1st and 2nd.

[muted mica]

Oh true probably

[sage dragon]

It's the concert hall and dates for bunnies camp

[lunar seal]

BYE

[cerulean wagon]

low-key kinda hope this disinformation blows out of proportion because once the haters create something they can't stop they're gonna look real silly when they find out newjeans doesn't release an mv about t****rists and their victims (maybe that'll shut em up in the future).

disclaimer: this is just me being the devil's advocate and i honestly think "calling out" the "links" right now is low-key harmful... like ur bringing a discussion about a very violent terrorist group to a fandom full of minors when it's all just speculation.

[gusty jacinth]

once get up drops and newjeans occupy the whole top 10, people gonna forget about this noise

[tepid spruce]

I didn't know ETA was smth offensive until i read the ig comments and i was.. oh boi

[granite root]

Last year with cookie newjeans also got attacked, so just ignore that kind misinformation, because haters will always find a way trying to bring newjeans down

[granite root]

True

[muted mica]

Estimated Time of Arrival is offensive? I am sorry if that offended you

[granite root]

Just don't instantly believe everything on internet, especially baseless information

[tepid spruce]

No matter what i'll stand my ground with NJ, and trust it ain't what it's allegedly meant

[tepid spruce]

I only knew it meant that until the comments went and i was like, "the hell??.."

[muted mica]

W im glad you trust NJ, if only they tweeted something to clear up what the acronym stood for

maybe something like this https://twitter.com/NewJeans_ADOR/status/1673140899130544128

NewJeans (@NewJeans_ADOR)

ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival)

Flight No. NJ721
Destination : SK Olympic Handball Gymnasium
ETA : 7/1 18:00 & 7/2 17:00
Status : On Time

#NewJeans #뉴진스
#NewJeans_ETA #NewJeans_GetUp
#Bunnies_Camp #ETA_Stage
#Time_to_NewJeans

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Twitter · Jun 26, 2023, 1:27 AM

It would definitely clear things up if they tweeted that

[tepid spruce]

I'll stand my ground with the girls

[muted mica]

Only thing im questioning rn are the names on bottom right of the teaser

WHO ARE THEYYYYYY

[tepid spruce]

Oh yeaa

[sage dragon]

What's happening with the tweet??

[tepid spruce]

Maybe some famous local Portuguese artists

[granite root]

Must be the songwriters right? Or producer?

[muted mica]

They tweeted that ETA = Estimated Time of Arrival

they are so goated for that

[sage dragon]

Uhh so what's wrong with it then?

[tepid spruce]

If people can't get over after they clarify, idk what will

[cerulean wagon]

have you missed the terrorism allegations @sage dragon

lucky

[muted mica]

[sage dragon]

What the..for what???

[cerulean wagon]

you have preserved you're braincells today

[tepid spruce]

I wished i haden't read the IG comments

Hadn't**

[granite root]

@sage dragon

[tepid spruce]

This is off topic but..

[muted mica]

On topic only

[tepid spruce]

No it's like an example of this

[cerulean wagon]

hann is always watching

[cerulean wagon]

we already knew this

at least this causes more ppl to view the teaser cuz they deserve all the hype

[sage dragon]

Oh that doesn't make sense lmao, why is that relating to the ETA when NewJeans clarified everything with TIME?

[tepid spruce]

In my country, we had a group that fought for independence that shared the name with a... anti-ethnic group

[gusty jacinth]

no accdg to them the only people with those names are terrorists

[tepid spruce]

And this allegations is almsot similat to.. tbis

[muted mica]

Nah that terrorist organization used car bombs

Do some research ig

[granite root]

Newjeans tweeted about that this morning, that allegations was last night. People just like to connecting everything with anything

[muted mica]

But it literally has nothing to do with newjeans

So in the end who cares

[tepid spruce]

Juat the moment i should venture twitter for mj content

[cerulean wagon]

this is low-key funny tho if i knew ppl weren't being fully serious

[tepid spruce]

Until these things came up

[sage dragon]

They've said it at the album details though that all the songs are connected with time so even if the allegations happened last night, that's like trying to get attention

[muted mica]

They made connections regarding the real life terrorist org but ADOR already cleared it up, so no point in trying to make sense of the past

[sage dragon]

I'm just laughing inside with all these theories

[muted mica]

Tbf the coincidence was very uncanny lmao

[quartz elbow]

LOL wth

[cerulean wagon]

but that is true for any good conspiracy theory

[muted mica]

[cerulean wagon]

like human brains are bad at this kinda crap

we look for patterns everywhere, even when there are none

[quartz elbow]

i cant with twt bruh

[tepid spruce]

Ikrr

Now ik why i don't use twitter at all

[muted mica]

it's just little kids on twitter instantly believing what they read and then sharing it

Later on they will pretend like they didn't believe it all along

[tepid spruce]

I swear to god if they try to decipher the song when it releases and accuse it for 'hidden messages'...

[muted mica]

I almost believed it for a second too until ADOR, our savior, saved us from evil

[gusty jacinth]

[muted mica]

Anyways you guys have fun with your speculating on random stuff that haven't happened yet\

Just make sure to follow the rules

[tepid spruce]

From what i heard, if spanish people were also working they would have stopped it and speak their concerns

[granite root]

Spread love and positivity

[sage dragon]

Someone post an emote of the eating popcorn or something lol

[muted mica]

[sage dragon]

Lol

That's me right now, reading everyone's theories and comments

[tepid spruce]

Whatever the allegators say, and provided we know what it truly meant, we will still feast! 😄

Anyways yeaa.. it looks like a song i would play when im heading to the airport.. hahahaha

[cerulean wagon]

side note: not even a MHJ stan but a recent popular thread on r/kpopthoughts really bugs me. it asserts that male CEOs receive so much more hate and aren't defended enough, but MHJ is protected too much. i have to actively search for stuff being complimentary of min or at least heartfelt memes but literally can't avoid upbeat memes or genuine compliments for JYP. don't get me wrong i luv a bit of JYP content but double standards are real folks and they rarely harm male CEOs.

[cerulean wagon]

at first i thought it was them driving back from their day at the beach in 'attention'

[muted mica]

wth does that have to do with ETA

[cerulean wagon]

the thread said she and her company get defended too much in light of the ETA situation

[tepid spruce]

That could be it too :0

[gusty jacinth]

someone check if ASAP is linked to terrorists too

[muted mica]

ASAP is linked to stayc

[sage dragon]

🤣

[gusty jacinth]

for now

[muted mica]

true

[tepid spruce]

ASAP in my country was a tv show name.. xD "very offensive"

[sage dragon]

ASAP - All Songs At Present

Are going to occupy your minds when the album drops!!!

[gusty jacinth]

Mine too

[tepid spruce]

They should collab with Seoul Metro and play that teaser's music xD " ETA plays train is arriving in 2 mins"

[lapis gulch]

Thank you! People love to get mega delusional before Kpop stuff drops

Remember snowdrop? Oh god all we could hear for months was how snowdrop was this terrible thing Jisoo shouldn’t be in blah blah blah

What are some other great examples of people blowing things out of proportion AHEAD of time in Kpop

Yes a Korean GG has built their whole concepts for this song on a@terror cell most of the people who hear the song have never heard of? Because of an acronym, some@names of people in Spain, where they regularly film their MVs since debut and a..:black car

Just make it make sense lololol

[grizzled coyote]

it’s not offensive for the vast majority of people

[quartz elbow]

every day im fascinated by the level of stupidity on stan twt

[quartz elbow]

Yall are insaneeee it’s very much obviously based on the group

[muted mica]

What is

[quartz elbow]

[gusty jacinth]

[cerulean sinew]

idk if this has been said before

but

you guys know the theory in ditto that the newjeans members died in a car crash

bc of the deer and then ban heesoo was hallucinating or smth

what if eta and the 2nd ep is a continuation of that concept

or what if eta tells us how newjeans died in the crash?

[cerulean sinew]

idk but ?

[quartz elbow]

maybe its this car

[cerulean sinew]

lmaoo

[quartz elbow]

they died in car crash

when?

[cerulean sinew]

there was a theory like it was nvr confirmed

but basically the theory was that in the ditto mv

ban heesoo was friends w newjeans or smth

[quartz elbow]

but i dont see car crash hints in ditto mv

[cerulean sinew]

the deer

at the end

[quartz elbow]

ah

[uncut plover]

Omg would love to see hee soo cameo

[cerulean sinew]

lmao yes

[quartz elbow]

i think the theory that deer represents ban heesoo's youth is more realistic

[cerulean sinew]

is that a theory?

i haventr heard that one

lmao

[quartz elbow]

i think thats more common theory that car crash

[tepid spruce]

I can already predict the internet twisting the meaning of that 🥲

[quartz elbow]

at the end of mv, ban heesoo doesnt need to find solace in imaginary friends aka idol group she cherished (if we base it on fan and idol relatiomship). she lets go of past but cherishes it as beautiful memory

theory is that deer represents those years of her youth

[cerulean sinew]

make sure we remind them that asap is as soon as possible

[cerulean sinew]

ahh ok ic

[quartz elbow]

newjeans forbidden to use acronyms from now on

wait but isnt mikel/eva and maria common names in portugal?

bc it can only mean what haters want it to be

[quartz elbow]

yes, very

[cerulean sinew]

lmao yup

[quartz elbow]

ador couldve researched more for their comeback to avoid this, the concern is appropriate but the hate isnt😭

[tepid spruce]

Seeing the ETA of my bus to arrive is offensive..

[quartz elbow]

im sorry but what should have they researched?

[tepid spruce]

Oop wrong reply.. but yes

[quartz elbow]

they should have attended terrorism studies?

[granite root]

ETA is common used word

[unborn oracle]

do you think the MVs are chronologically connected, the same way the music apparently is and should be listened in order?
Im thinking, newjeans - super shy - eta - cool with you = newjeans on holiday in spain / road trip maybe; then get up - asap = transition to powerpuff girls?

[quartz elbow]

ETA has been active for 5 decades until they disbanded with apology in 2011 iirc. There probably isnt any Spanish name that isn't associated with them starting from the members, supporters or victims

[granite root]

please dont say you dont know what does ASAP stands for?

[cerulean sinew]

lmao no its like

[quartz elbow]

you have a point

[cerulean sinew]

Application Specific Access Profile

[tepid spruce]

Meanwhile new jeans getting some flak over this song name

[granite root]

even justin bieber has song called ETA years ago, where's the allegation towards him?

[cerulean sinew]

i feel like it would be
newjeans would proabbly do a concept like that and im hoping they do

[quartz elbow]

he isnt as popular as newjeans

[granite root]

[quartz elbow]

i feel like ETA is a continuation of attention MV cuz they drove somewhere around the end of the MV😸

[cerulean sinew]

the hateers just looking for a reason to bring our girls down

[unborn oracle]

and "time" would be the overarching concept of the album.

[quartz elbow]

maybee they had a road trip?

[tepid spruce]

If they reallg are 'promoting terrorism', NIS would be on their tail alr.. no?

Korea's CIA

[cerulean sinew]

exaclty

[quartz elbow]

please

[cerulean sinew]

mhj would actually be cancelled alr

like genuinely cancelled

cos the knets have tried to do that a couple times alr

[gusty jacinth]

And that is why twt reddit is stupid

[tepid spruce]

If anything, jsut don't attack our queens 🥲

[quartz elbow]

people trying to cancel newjeans based off mhj’s past action is dumb😭

[unborn oracle]

maybe they will use the car as a vessel to jump timelines.
if they are trying to connect the road trip in spain to powerpuff girls, that seems like the most probable scenario.

[quartz elbow]

lack of critical thinking skills is just bizarre. everyone jumps and repeats on any bs written on twt

[cerulean sinew]

whenever i go on twt and see the kpop stans i feel so smart

[quartz elbow]

"but cookie-"

shut up

[cerulean sinew]

misinformation at its finest

[quartz elbow]

[cerulean sinew]

cookie is a great song

[quartz elbow]

rumours are made by haters, fools spread them, idiots believe them😸

[quartz elbow]

this never gets old. always accurate

[tepid spruce]

And considering this was probably in the making for so long

NIS would have stopped it

If it were 'true'

[cerulean sinew]

someone tell the haters that

[quartz elbow]

like why would nj music will be related to organization? djdjdjjdjd i cant believe ppl even assumed something so ridiculous and their only argument is "min heejin"

before they try to hate on newjeans, at least wait until the MV/song comes out😭

[cerulean sinew]

[quartz elbow]

literally

[cerulean sinew]

like

have some solid evidence first ... no?

[unborn oracle]

ditto was already a play on time with the whole travel back in time to 1998
I think they will continue playing around with this idea of time and possibly parallel timelines / universes

[zinc dew]

We will find out on July 1st. They will be performing the song live.

[quartz elbow]

mental gymnastics based on 10 sec teaser is just insane. they need to be locked up

where is minji meme from omg

need that

[cerulean sinew]

did you guys see dani's teaser?

[quartz elbow]

i can already imagine kpop stans micro analyzing mv and song, scrambling to find any small connection to their fake and deranged narrative

[tepid spruce]

I just can't wait to listen to the music while waiting for my ride xD

ETA

[cerulean sinew]

and then when they find nothing: :

[quartz elbow]

what teaser

energetic one?

[cerulean sinew]

i choose all of them lmao

[quartz elbow]

my non kpop friends actually told me about this ETA thing it’s funny because even they cared about newjean’s’ reputation😭

[quartz elbow]

there was nothing in attention mv and they were outraged over teens wearing crop tops and making theories about their zoom chat scene in mv

[tepid spruce]

Exactlyy like bruh.. their CIA likely did their analysis way before in secret.. and they did nothing so.. to those people, "Shut it!"

[cerulean sinew]

🤐

maybe the haters need a punch in the face

it would make them smarter no?

but honestly bringing newjeans down doesnt even mean thier favs go up

idk what their logic is

[quartz elbow]

they are using min heejin to target newjeans and justify their obvious hate and jealousy towards nj

then they will say they have to protect minors

and not debut them

no one endangers newjeans more than toxic kpop stans and their false narratives

[cerulean sinew]

and the misinfo is actually semi believable

[quartz elbow]

i hope one they they realize that "protecting minors" means kpop fandoms as well who are the biggest reason of toxicity in industry

[gusty jacinth]

Speaking of, mikel eva maria could also just be the kids in the zoom lol. Newjeans coming back to europe to see their friends

[cerulean sinew]

like my friend nearly was convinced

the haters just ...

[quartz elbow]

were there other kids other than nj in zoom?

[cerulean sinew]

wait really?

[quartz elbow]

its not believable if one can use brain and research on their own

[cerulean sinew]

agreed

[quartz elbow]

instead of jumping on first opportunity to hate on girls and believe anything written on twt

[quartz elbow]

twt is cesspool of misinformation

[cerulean sinew]

mhj is questionable sometimes but shes not like a terrorist in hiding

[cerulean sinew]

and haters. you forgot the haters lmao

[quartz elbow]

ooooooh

[cerulean sinew]

haha i jumped on twitter just then

and i saw this

[quartz elbow]

noticing for the first time

[cerulean sinew]

📈 Most streamed female artists under 21 on Spotify:

1. Olivia Rodrigo — 11B
2. Tate McRae — 4.4B
3. NewJeans — 1.4B
4. Gayle — 1.2B
5. Lauren Spencer — 710M

[unborn oracle]

[cerulean sinew]

but twt poeple actually will believe anything

[sage dragon]

My take is, aren't the haters probably just those who miss mhj from their sm days.

I mean all the other groups before newjeans was handled by her in SM, now she's her own boss.

And with her actual group to manage, and experience. They are at the top along with the old groups.

[quartz elbow]

its jealousy ~

[sage dragon]

Pretty much

Do you see a lot of female CEO's of kpop lol

[gusty jacinth]

When the MV drops, you'll see the same people praising how good it is

[sage dragon]

She's one of a few who managed to get her own group like get almost every collab you can think of.

That's the power of experience with trial and error from her SM days.

[cerulean sinew]

[unborn oracle]

is that scene in the ETA MV?

[gusty jacinth]

I mean there's gonna be at least 6 mvs, who knows

[cerulean sinew]

omg the omg truck vibes lmaop

[cerulean sinew]

imagine if we get like hype boy (minji ver) again

but w one of the 2nd ep songs

[unborn oracle]

6 MVs is a lot, I don't think we get versions for each member this time

[cerulean sinew]

lmao true

but we're so lucky

maybe thats why everyones hating on newjeans

[gusty jacinth]

Can't underestimate ador

[cerulean sinew]

how many groups do u see w 6 mvs for 6 songs

ador on top lmao

[gusty jacinth]

E ver T ver A ver

Lol

[cerulean sinew]

lmaoooooo

[tepid spruce]

I almost sang attention reading that xD

[unborn oracle]

besides, they used different MVs for hype boy to introduce each member. we know them now, I don't think there is much merit for multiple MVs again

[quartz elbow]

we will prob get performance mvs

ador releases multiple versions of one mv

[cerulean sinew]

hm true

[quartz elbow]

wait is newjeans performing in SK olympic handball gymnasium or something to debut ETA?

[feral raptor]

thats bunnies fan meeting

[quartz elbow]

ohhh

[vivid oracle]

I have no opinion on this ETA terrorist thing, I want to wait for more teasers and/or the MV to come out. I just want to say that y'all can defend the girls without commenting on or defending MHJ. The coincidences in this teaser are A LOT but like I said, I'll wait for the MV to come out. But I don't blame people for assuming the worst, a lot of people dislike Min Hee Jin after the cookie controversy and some of the other stuff she's done.

[unborn oracle]

newjeans love min heejin and min heejin loves newjeans and we love both

[gusty jacinth]

cookie controversy people and ETA people are the same

[quartz elbow]

end them

[prisma lagoon]

This is crazy lmao

[quartz elbow]

coincidences in question:

• estimated time of arrival
• driving a car because they have to arrive somewhere duh
• Spanish/Portuguese names bc yknow mvs are filmed by production company in Portugal and Spain and they casted local actors

thanks

i feel even smarter today

im about to challenge Einstein in IQ

[gusty jacinth]

damn smartypants

im so jealous

[quartz elbow]

overall i just have mixed opinions over the ETA thing but i’ll just wait until the MV or song comes out

[unborn oracle]

liking and making up conspiracy theories is ok, turning those theories into targeted hatred is not it

better use your time to discuss what is most likely than what is least likely

[quartz elbow]

i just feel rlly bad for newjeans cuz of the hatee, i also want their songs to be good hits too soo hopefully nothing goes wrong in their comeback and to newjeans as a whole😿

[unborn oracle]

it's silly and it doesn't matter
newjeans don't spend their time online and if they use social media, they are likely to be found browsing korean videos on tiktok and youtube, or search their name on naver images (the equivalent of google images in korea)

[vale sierra]

Mikel isn't a Spanish name

Mikel is a Basque name

Only Basque

And Basque is where ETA is from

They were a Basque terrorist group that attacked Spanish people

[quartz elbow]

who cares. maybe actor is from basque

[vale sierra]

Uh

People care?

[quartz elbow]

nice

[vale sierra]

This is the equivalent of making a song called "Reich" and putting "starring Newjeans, Hitler, Himmler, Anne Frank"

Because Mikel and Maria were leaders of ETA

[vale sierra]

And Eva was their first victim

[quartz elbow]

[vale sierra]

Of their terrorist acts

[quartz elbow]

their first victim was a man

shut up

[feral raptor]

based on the articles eva is not their first victim

[quartz elbow]

[vale sierra]

One of their victims then

[lone veldt]

They killed more than 800 people.

[feral raptor]

please dont be rude

[vale sierra]

It's still too much of a coincidence

Just because this didn't affect your country

Doesn't mean it "doesnt matter"

To us, as Spanish people

This is genuinely the equivalent of it being called Reich starring Hitler

This is very very weird, I don't know what Ador is doing

[quartz elbow]

ok i will have fun when you will be looking like a clown when mv and song comes out

[vale sierra]

??

[olive spindle]

Over 500 people were murdered is nothing to laugh or be rude about

[feral raptor]

i said be respectful?

[quartz elbow]

eta means estimated time of arrival

[lone veldt]

Ofc the song won´t be about the terrorist groups, it´s a marketing strategy.

[feral raptor]

stop picking fight

wtf

[quartz elbow]

has nothing to do with organization

[vale sierra]

I know ETA means Estimated time of arrival

But ETA and then starring ETA leaders names????

[quartz elbow]

there are no coincidences. just what people made up

[vale sierra]

Of all the names on planet earth?

Nobody made it up

[quartz elbow]

eta probably has thousands of names associated with them

[vale sierra]

Mikel Antza

[quartz elbow]

so what

[vale sierra]

Google it

He was one of the leaders of ETA

And Maria was his wife

[quartz elbow]

anyways

[vale sierra]

This isn't the girls' fault

They're just idols

It's Ador

[quartz elbow]

yes its only kpop stans fault

[vale sierra]

I don't know what they think they're doing

[lone veldt]

I agree.

[lone veldt]

Okay?

[vale sierra]

A leader of ETA

Terrorist group in Spain

That killed hundreds of people

[quartz elbow]

you are jumping on conclusion and judging something that you have not seen or heard yet. good for u

[vale sierra]

They disbanded 13 years ago

But yeah

It has absolutely nothing to do with the girls

They don't make the songs

It's Ador

I just don't understand what they're doing

It's too much to be a coincidence

[lone veldt]

Yes it is, I hope this don´t afect them.

[olive spindle]

Not hating on girls they are amazing but you know is really sus the name and the starring people names

[vale sierra]

Why Mikel specifically? Why Maria and Eva?

It could've been ANY name

Pedro

Or

Jaime

Or Bruno

But it had to be exactly the names of leaders of ETA?

When the song is called ETA?

[quartz elbow]

because they casted actors where they filmed mv

jfkfkfkfkfk

[vale sierra]

Yup

On the teaser it says 'starring Newjeans, Eva, Mikel, Maria'

In the corner of the image

One sec

[lone veldt]

At the right bottom.

Yep.

[vale sierra]

Look at the bottom right

[lone veldt]

Same omggggg.

[vale sierra]

And also, the terrorist attacks that ETA made

Were all car bombings

[lone veldt]

They were doing so well and now they do this.

[vale sierra]

Like

For a Spanish person

[lone veldt]

Yea, they did that A LOT.

[vale sierra]

This is like

[lone veldt]

Our parents lived that.

[vale sierra]

The song being called "Heil", starring Newjeans, Adolf, Himmler, Anne

[feral raptor]

they teased that car since the beginning

[vale sierra]

And the MV shows a shower

Like

[feral raptor]

you can also see it in the bunnies camp

it means theyre otw

[vale sierra]

It's too many coincidences

[vale sierra]

I 100% understand that

But when you take into account everything

It's too much

If the song weren't called ETA

[olive spindle]

Too sus

[vale sierra]

Or if it didnt star "Mikel, Maria"

Then it'd be fine

But when you join all those things together???

I don't know

[feral raptor]

in the explanation they said they will be collaborating with the diff artists

[lone veldt]

Fr, if they were just actors they won´t have put them there.

[vale sierra]

Someone showed it to me, and I laughed thinking haha coincidence, it just means Estimated time of arrival

[feral raptor]

comeback explanation**

[vale sierra]

But then I suddenly see Mikel and Maria

And I see the car

Yeah, that was how they killed hundreds of people

The worst terrorist attack Spain suffered was multiple cars exploding in an area with many many people

[lone veldt]

Yes but with no surnames and coincidencly that names?

[tepid spruce]

I'l support the girls 9999% through the end but if their management turned out to be doing this on purpose.. im not even sure what to say from here on end

[vale sierra]

I don't understand why Ador think this is okay

[quartz elbow]

thats how false narratives are created literally. you take some pieces of information and try to connect the dots to fabricate story.

none of these are in relation to what yall want it to be

but have fun until MV drops

[vale sierra]

None of those things would mean anything by itself

[lone veldt]

You´re too focused in the MV.

[vale sierra]

But when everything is joined together into one picture???

This one screenshot includes 4 things related to the terrorist group

How?

How can it be that much of a coincidence???

[lone veldt]

The point is not the MV, the point is that they used that names to make the comeback more popular.

[vale sierra]

Did Ador maybe think ETA was some sort of heroic resistance against Spains dictatorship???

[feral raptor]

tbh we cant do anything lol we can just wait for the mv to drop and that will explain everything

[lone veldt]

Yes. 😔

[vale sierra]

Are they confused with what ETA actually is?

[tepid spruce]

I think they just know ETA means Estimated time of arrival

But when those names mentioned..

[lone veldt]

Is impossible that they don´t know the terrorist thing having recorded in Barcelona.

[vale sierra]

Yeah thats the problem

If it was ETA, and no names

It's okay

If it was called idk... ASAP, but had those names, it'd be okay

But ETA + those names + the car?

[lone veldt]

Yea the names are the problem.

[tepid spruce]

If it does turn out to be true, i won't expect apologies from the girls but Ador themselves..

[vale sierra]

I'm seeing some people refusing to understand it but

This is literally the equivalent of naming it Heil, starring Newjeans, Adolf, Himmler, Frank

[tepid spruce]

Also.. shouldn't NIS take notice of it tho?

[vale sierra]

It's literally the same thing

[lone veldt]

At the end it probably won´t have anything in common with ETA, just for making it popular.

[vale sierra]

It better not

Because that'd make it infinitely worse

[lone veldt]

Yes lmao.

[vale sierra]

Idk, I just wanna reiterate, this has nothing to do with the girls

Ador have done something very very weird

[lone veldt]

Really disgusting strategy.

[tepid spruce]

I hope ASAP doesn't share any oddsies like ETA.. 🥲

Soon.. 'Z'

[lone veldt]

Let´s hope that at the end the MV doesn´t have anything in common with the terrorism group and that ADOR only used the teaser to make the comeback more popular.

[olive spindle]

Over 600 people is a lot of people a lot of families

[quartz elbow]

Yall, the song is getting hate because of the starring part, it does link to the terrorists

[lone veldt]

Yes I know. 😭
But that´s damage already done and we can´t do anything about it. TT

[lone veldt]

Yea.

[vale sierra]

It's just the fact it's ETA + names, that's it

Well, THOSE names

They could've put... Starring Newjeans, James, Gary, Elizabeth

And it'd be okay

[olive spindle]

I mean there's no need to do this disgusting thing new jeans is amazing by itself they can release anything and they'll be awesome but this?! Hell no

[lone veldt]

I totally agree.

[tepid spruce]

If the song turns out clean... how should we react 🥲

[vale sierra]

The song might be clean, but I think they'll still need to explain their choice here

[lone veldt]

Happy because they didn´t do more about the terrorism group but angry because they used it for marketing.

[vale sierra]

Because even if the song itself is fine

It's too much to be a coincidence

Almost 8 billion people on Earth, and they manage to choose 3 people with names related to ETA?

In Korea as well? Aint no way

[tepid spruce]

Jose..

[vale sierra]

shouldn't*

People need to learn to distinguish Company from group

[lone veldt]

For real, even only talking about Spain.

[vale sierra]

I don't think Danielle said "Yeah, lets do this" lmao

It's 100% only Ador

[tepid spruce]

But i did have this one thought tho..

When they were filming in spain.. none of the spaniards working for the shoot came to speak about it?

[vale sierra]

Exactly

[tepid spruce]

Or portugal idk

[vale sierra]

The odds of finding a Mikel, Maria and Eva in Korea? Impossible

[feral raptor]

well theyre shooting mvs outside korea since their debut

[vale sierra]

We poor over here, so if something pays money, we take it

[lone veldt]

Even tho they tried maybe they just shutted them up.

[vale sierra]

Maybe they didn't tell them the title of the song even, who knows?

Probably made them sign an NDA

[lone veldt]

Yes I was going to say that.

[tepid pasture]

Wasn't it in Portugal?

[lone veldt]

No it was in Spain.

[vale sierra]

Yeah, Newjeans records in Spain

[lone veldt]

Yes fr.

[vale sierra]

Maria is a super common name in Spain

But Mikel isn't

Mikel is specific to the area ETA is from

[cerulean wagon]

I'm pre sure Portugal + Spain + Paris are all potential filming locations based on leaks

[lone veldt]

Mikel is in Cataluña and País Vasco (I don´t know the english names).

[cerulean wagon]

who was maria in terms of ETA again?

[vale sierra]

Maria was Mikels wife

[cerulean wagon]

Which mikel

like last name

[vale sierra]

Mikel Antza

[lone veldt]

The leader.

[cerulean wagon]

ty

[vale sierra]

His name

[lone veldt]

Yes it was, they did that a lot.

[vale sierra]

This guy

Pareja = Partner/wife

María

[tepid spruce]

I swear if Ador used the girls to help explain the reasonings...

[vale sierra]

Euskadi Ta Askatasuna = ETA

[lone veldt]

I will burn the company. 💀

[olive spindle]

Also the Eva name is one of the victims that his dad got murdered and recently there has been an interview with her

It's really sus

[lone veldt]

Yes she was.

[vale sierra]

Whose mum?

[tepid spruce]

Tokki Coup d'état

[lone veldt]

When they released Cookie.

[vale sierra]

Yes, 21 of July 1978

[tepid pasture]

i could be wrong

the letters ETA are similar to the Basque font

[lone veldt]

Maybe they don´t know the mother or it´s just not important.

[vale sierra]

Ah, no idea, maybe she wasn't present yeah

[lone veldt]

YEA I SAW IT.

In Twitter.

[vale sierra]

I don't know

[lone veldt]

The font is a basque one.

[vale sierra]

Side by side

[vale sierra]

It looks like Bold Basque font

[tepid spruce]

Oh-

[vale sierra]

Like they put Basque font, then turned on Bold letters

A region in Spain

Like

"New york"

Spain has regions called provinces

Same as "States" in USA

And Basque country is the region ETA is from

They have a unique language called Euskera

Basque is where ETA is from

Basque country

[lone veldt]

It´s another similitude.

[cerulean wagon]

hmm no a basque font is one that supports the basque language, the actual font is called gliker black expanded which as far as I am aware is not a basque font

[lone veldt]

I don´t get the "supports the basque language" part.

[quartz elbow]

if this is just a rlly messed up marketing strategy, i hope newjeans change CEOs, i dont think anyone can defend her anymore even if she’s creative, i love their music but this is just disrespectful and offensive😭

[vale sierra]

Yeah, I don't know what Ador is doing

Because it's too much to be a coincidence

It seems like a conscious choice

[lone veldt]

Yes it is...

[vale sierra]

Definitely

[tepid spruce]

I'll be honest.. I didn't know ETA also meant.. smth evil.. but im glad it was put into the Light so that I won't be so ignorant in future if things like this happen again

[vale sierra]

I laughed at it, I joked with another Spanish friend about it

Cos i know ETA is estimated time of arrival

[quartz elbow]

apparently ETA was suppose to be for ariana grande as the continuation of god is a woman

[vale sierra]

But we joked about it being haha ETA

But

[tepid spruce]

Wot?

[vale sierra]

[quartz elbow]

not sure if it’s true thoughh

[tepid spruce]

First was babymonster's mistake of saying that word. Now NJ's company is... sighs

Nah it ain't a diff topic just my.. disappointment

[quartz elbow]

i think ETA will probably be a great song but it’s just the marketing strategy that’s very messed up😭

my grammar isnt grammaring

[tepid spruce]

Just hope it's a clean songg

[quartz elbow]

yesss

[tepid spruce]

If not.. yea.. we'll defend our queens

From their corporation's decisions

[quartz elbow]

yeahh

okay but besides ETA i hope the other 5 songs dont get too controversial😸

[tepid spruce]

We have asap coming so.. 😄

I swear if i see a 'Z' in there...

[quartz elbow]

wait about ETA, the date of release is 21/7 right?

[tepid spruce]

Seems soo

[gusty jacinth]

yes but they'll perform it this weekend

[quartz elbow]

wait why are people saying they’re releasing on that day cuz it’s their anniversary

isn’t their anniversary 22/7 or do i have dementia already

[lone veldt]

What's with that? I didn't get informed about it.

[quartz elbow]

huhh

[lone veldt]

Oh shoot, ty and sorry.

[quartz elbow]

ohh

[gusty jacinth]

well they cant release on a saturday now can they

also friday for billboard

[tepid spruce]

Nvm.. it'll get off topic if i explain hahaha

I'll dm

[vivid oracle]

We don't know this. We aren't there with them. I hope they're being treated right but I won't make statements on anything I don't know.

[vivid oracle]

I'm not going to talk about the cookie stuff since that's not the topic of this chat. But it has merit

[gusty jacinth]

that applies to everything including the ETA stuff

[vivid oracle]

That's why I said I have no opinion on it lol

[covert sigil]

did they go to spain and film it there

[lone veldt]

The new comeback?

[muted mica]

Hiya

Anyone got some crazy delulu theories

Make my day

[muted mica]

What the helllll is that THE danii

Long time no see

[vale sierra]

[covert sigil]

ya

[vale sierra]

Long time no see, tru

I havent been active on discord for a long long time

[unborn oracle]

There has been many instances in interviews and elsewhere where it was suggested newjeans and min heejin are close.
Off the top of my head, hanni and her family gave min heejin a pajama with the same motif as theirs and said they considered min heejin hanni's korean mother. Newjeans and min heejin all share a group chat and can chat up any time. In interviews, min heejin has said "she gave birth" when newjeans debuted or "she was very proud of them" and "that's what it feels like to be a mother". For christmas, they spent their time together, exchanged gifts and had a good time.
Min heejin is not just a ceo, she is also their mentor and their friend and it's clear they have a strong bonding relationship.

[quartz elbow]

this kinda reminds me of the itzy thing eith mafia in the morning and how people though it was related to the italian crime indicate cuz of one of their lyrics

ETA’s situation is worse😭

[quartz elbow]

worse as in it’s ador that’s in the wrong

[vale sierra]

Mhm, Ador, not the girls

[vivid oracle]

I know about some of this stuff, like the Christmas gifts thing.
See how I didn't say MHJ is hurting them? From what we can see they're close. But Idk why she would even give them a song that can be interpreted sexually (cookie) if she considers them her kids. That's why I'm saying I don't blame people for attacking her (NOT the group, the girls didnt do anything). Because her actions in the past are questionable at best.

[muted mica]

Wasn’t it already concluded that it was a fault in the translation, I thought the general consensus of the Korean public was that it wasn’t sexual at all

Always the foreigners interpreting the songs weirdly

[vale sierra]

I've no idea about that

[cerulean wagon]

this is veering off topic

[muted mica]

First Cookie and now ETA but ETA is just a very weird coincidence ig

[vale sierra]

I usually always ignore dumb controversies, because it's usually dumb interpretations

But

This one is too much

[muted mica]

Very true and accurate, so true

[vivid oracle]

The song has two English speaking writers. They knew what they were doing. But let's not talk about it, the chat should stay on topic

I'm excited to see the MV for this. I saw a YouTube short where someone claimed to see them filming. I wonder if they were telling the truth

[cerulean wagon]

ETA teaser shit is literally all speculation based on a few random things (like seriously, we are out here matching first names to actual people and calling it fact??) but let's wait for the mv and lyrics at least before we speculate more and jumping to any sort of conclusion could make you look very stupid in the future

[vale sierra]

Even if the song is unrelated

I don't think this is okay

It stops being random when all of it is related

[muted mica]

Is it the actors’ faults their names match?

[vale sierra]

I know nobody knows what ETA is, and will not feel the gravity of it, because it's not known

[cerulean wagon]

Let's not go there, because nothing about the video is inherently harmful. "It stops being random when all of it is related" is what every conspiracy theorist said ever.

[vale sierra]

But to Spanish people, this is the equivalent of the song being called "Heil", starring Newjeans, Adolf, Himmler, Anne

[cerulean wagon]

We don't have to theorise... we can wait

[muted mica]

I wish they would also clarify what the names mean

[quartz elbow]

honestly we dont know if it’s actually their names of not so i guess we’ll have to wait :P

[vale sierra]

Like, I understand why you guys don't understand the gravity of it

[vale sierra]

But trust me when I say this isn't an exaggeration

[vivid oracle]

It's some lore thing. They probably won't reveal it until the mv comes out

[muted mica]

We understand the gravity of it, we just don’t want to come to that conclusion yet when it’s not entirely clear yet

Just waiting patiently

[vale sierra]

The song itself might be completely unrelated

But that teaser...

[cerulean wagon]

exactly why we shouldn't be coming to any conslusions now

[vale sierra]

No, but

Listen to me for a second

[muted mica]

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised especially with the OMG MV

I didn’t expect it to have such dark undertones

[vale sierra]

How would you react if this is what it said instead?

Would you say "wait for it"?

Or would you say wtf?

Like, regardless of what the actual MV and song ends up being

[muted mica]

If it was a German song and those were the actors names i’d prob react the same, like “this is a very weird coincidence, but let’s not jump to any conclusions yet”

BUT the “HEIL” would be TOO far

[vale sierra]

That's the issue

[muted mica]

Can’t explain HEIL away

[cerulean wagon]

False equivalance. ETA never had the power, influence or impact the 3rd reich did and and Mikel Antza was one of many leaders, not THE leader. I am not downplaying ETA violence I am just saying they are in completely different stratospheres.

[vale sierra]

For Spanish people, the fact it's called ETA makes it too far

[vale sierra]

Within Spain, they did

[muted mica]

ETA can be explained though… it has many other meanings…

[vale sierra]

They killed hundreds of people through terrorism

[muted mica]

And they already clarified it’s the English acronym…

[vale sierra]

Lets not make the narrative that "because they didnt call as much , its not as bad"

That's a terrible narrative to make

[vale sierra]

But ETA + those names?

• a car as a teaser

[quartz elbow]

rightt, for spanish people

hearing ETA and mikel, im pretty sure they would stick to one conclusion on what it’s about and it’s the terrorist group😭

[vale sierra]

When ETA are famous for their car bombings?

[muted mica]

I’ve heard that those names are very common Spanish names, so I’m inclined to believe it might be coincidence

[vale sierra]

Nope

Mikel is not common

And not Spanish

It's Basque

[cerulean wagon]

No they didn't. They never controlled the Spanish Government, Nazis completely seized power of Germany and other countries and killed millions. I am not saying it is not that bad I am just saying your Nazi equivalence example is very false.

[vale sierra]

And Basque is where ETA is from

[tepid spruce]

Those names.. i've been thinking about it.. there's no well-known local artists in spain that just happens to share the same name in such an astronomical coincidence?

[cerulean wagon]

it's not uncommon

[gusty jacinth]

is there only 1 mikel in whole of basque country?

[cerulean wagon]

no there isn't

[vale sierra]

Is there only 1 Adolf in germany?

[cerulean wagon]

in fact there are multiple mikels related to ETA alone

[vale sierra]

That's not a good reasoning, come on

[vale sierra]

Makes it worse

[vale sierra]

But I don't think you should be telling a Spanish person that ETA wasn't that bad

That's incredibly insensitive

A terrorist group is a terrorist group

[cerulean wagon]

I am not fully Spanish but my mom grew up in Spain during the 70s so she is fully aware of that context.

[vale sierra]

Regardless of if it's hundreds or millions that died

They're equally as bad

What's the conclusion you want me to make by telling me it's not comparable?

"You're right, ETA wasn't as bad as the Nazis, so I shouldn't care that all these things are pointing towards ETA"

I want to reiterate, always, this is not directed towards the girls

[muted mica]

Ok i was trying to find that one message but where did you read that the overarching theme of the songs would be TIME? <@&1105047579785445446>stan

Ffs

Not this again

[vale sierra]

This is directed at Ador, who for some reason thought it's okay to do this

[gusty jacinth]

gj 11

[gusty jacinth]

im curious what would be your final course of action with regards to this comeback?
skip newjeans altogether, skip this comeback, skip ETA, ..???

[vale sierra]

Lmao, nice ping

[muted mica]

@unborn oracle

[vale sierra]

My course of action? Demand an explanation from Ador

And an admission of either guilt or ignorance

And a promise to improve

[muted mica]

Where did you read that the overarching theme of the songs would be TIME? @unborn oracle

[quartz elbow]

@vale sierra I'm reading also those ETA-related threads on Twitter and it's really sus. All those facts are matching. I don't know, but it's creepy

[vale sierra]

I'm ignoring the "oh 21st of july is the date ETA bombed a police car" thing

Because ETA committed so many acts

It can just be a coincidence

But the teaser just isn't

[muted mica]

How did people already come to the conclusions that this was the same car used @gusty jacinth

[vale sierra]

You can tell me that ETA isn't as bad as Nazis, but I'm telling you

[gusty jacinth]

#Time_to_NewJeans
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[vale sierra]

As a Spanish person

Its equivalent to the song being called Heil, starring Adolf, etc

[gusty jacinth]

that's just copium

[quartz elbow]

FOR REAL

[vale sierra]

Idk why they did it, but they'll have to explain

[muted mica]

Oh i see lmao

[tepid spruce]

If i can put @vale sierra points in persepctive.. in my country we have this thing called '369' and that meant as a gang sign - my country had that notorious gang back in the days.. and we could get arrested for saying it(due to the gang slashings and all)

If NJ teased a concert with those nunbers.. i'd be questioning it too

[quartz elbow]

Or something communism related and Stalin

[vale sierra]

Exactly

I mean, if it were 369 by itself, maybe it'd be fine

But what if it's 369 + the names of the leaders of the gang?

At that point, you have to question it

[hybrid moat]

This is ridiculous. People on twitter, reddit, and here too already spent so much time here trying to support this narrative that ETA has a connection to the spanish ETA.. First of all, even in the spanish ETA there were like 8 different Mikels. You do realize that if ADOR wanted to make a direct reference, their actions needed to be prominent enough to make the connection? Won't they at least specify which Mikel? That's how referencing works. There were many names among victims and their leaders. You can make these assumptions with literally any name. So the argument about the names doesn't make any sense. I don't want to be offensive, but please think with your heads. Do you really think that they would drop powerpuff collab and would reference a terrorist org at the same time? Their image would be destroyed.

[tepid spruce]

Thing is 369.. could be anyone.. but i won't.explaincit here cause.. yea

[vale sierra]

There being 8 different Mikels doesn't support your point

It makes it worse

[cerulean wagon]

??

[vale sierra]

It further pushes the narrative that it's related

Because it proves that name is Basque

[cerulean wagon]

like one of the mikels was an undcover agent who helped arrest ETA criminals, how is that worse?

[hybrid moat]

Yes it does. My point is that you can take any spanish/portugal name and tie it to the spanish ETA.

[vale sierra]

That name isn't Spanish

It's Basque

[cerulean wagon]

i'm detecting general resentment towards Basque people here

[vale sierra]

I'm telling you this as a Spanish person

Itziar, Basque name

Iñaki

Zuriñe

Mikel

All Basque names

[vale sierra]

Ad hominem

Please avoid that

That does nothing but cause arguing

Adolf is a german name

Anyone can be named Adolf over there

[cerulean wagon]

please avoid being annoying then?? idk what to say. not to make another ad hominem statment but you've taken this discussion way too far.

[vale sierra]

But we all relate it to one thing, one person

[hybrid moat]

If there are so many different Mikels in just one organization, it already proves that it's a common name. So again, this is a coincidence.

[vale sierra]

Being annoying about pointing out a possible insensitivity?

You're turning a discussion about an issue into an attack on me

I think you should go think for a bit and then come back

[maiden nimbus]

this thread was made in order to discuss the eta issue, not fighting at all

[vale sierra]

You can close this thread

[maiden nimbus]

so please keep it calm

[vale sierra]

And stop reading what I say

I'm simply trying to put into context what this seems like to Spanish people

[maiden nimbus]

i'm also spanish

[vale sierra]

Because, if you're not Spanish, you might struggle to see the context of it

[vale sierra]

That wasn't aimed at you sorry

[cerulean wagon]

i google adolf on google.com, hitler results show up. i google mikel on google.es, i see zero results relating to ETA.

[vale sierra]

You don't have spanish Google

And he's not famous worldwide like Hitler is

Hence, I understand why you wouldn't understand the context of it

Not many people outside of Spain are aware that ETA ever existed

But that's why it's important you listen when I tell you about it

Since here, this is a seriously dark past for the country

[cerulean wagon]

yes i do. i have a vpn and i'm using google.es. i'm getting results in spanish but zero mentions about ETA

[unborn axle]

Mikel was one of the leaders in ETA

[wooden crater]

A lot of people are named Mikel

[vale sierra]

I mean, I'm not responsible for Googles algorithm

[wooden crater]

A lot of people are not named Adolf

[unborn axle]

What about Maria and Eva?

[vale sierra]

If I search Mikel, his Wikipedia appears if i scroll down

[wooden crater]

Same goes for them

[unborn axle]

Maria was his wife and Eva one of the first victims

[vale sierra]

This is not true

[wooden crater]

It is true

[maiden nimbus]

not in spain

[vale sierra]

It isn't

I live in Spain and I don't know a single Mikel

Because I don't live in the Basque country

[wooden crater]

They’re all probably in the Basque Country

[vale sierra]

The only region where that name is more common

[wooden crater]

But there’s a lot

[vale sierra]

Yeah

Which proves a connection between the name and ETA

[unborn axle]

Yall I understand you really want to defend your favs but this is just disrespectful..

[cerulean wagon]

?

[vale sierra]

The name is Basque.

ETA is Basque.

[wooden crater]

Min Heejin might be trying to pull another Cookie

[unborn axle]

ETA in this context stands for Euskadi Ta Askatasuna

[vale sierra]

Mhm

[wooden crater]

Let’s see what they come back with

[vale sierra]

I'm not saying Newjeans ETA means this

[quartz elbow]

I don't know, guys. But this is very disturbing concept for a KPOP comeback. Like politics in KPOP? And also this isn't about normal politics like being the president of some country, it's about something dark

[vale sierra]

They clear mean it as Estimated Time of Arrival

But

I don't think these "coincidences" are actual coincidences

[wooden crater]

It’s weird to have those 3 names tho

[cerulean wagon]

not all basque people were in ETA?

[unborn axle]

Yeah I was talking about the terrorism

[wooden crater]

Why would you do that

[vale sierra]

Nobody is in ETA

Because it doesnt exist anymore

[cerulean wagon]

I've corrected that

[unborn axle]

Marketing..

[wooden crater]

Guess you didn’t read my previous message

[unborn axle]

Yes I did

[vale sierra]

I didn't say this, either

[maiden nimbus]

i don't think it was bc of marketing but because they thought it was something interesting to explore??? korean ppl have messed up with things like this a lof of times

[vale sierra]

I'm not sure

[wooden crater]

@unborn axle you sure

[vale sierra]

Maybe they aren't aware of what ETA is

[unborn axle]

Oh sorry

[vale sierra]

ETA formed when Spain was under a dictatorship

[maiden nimbus]

i mean if they've used those three names they have done some research

[vale sierra]

Perhaps they thought it was some sort of heroic resistance group?

But I don't see how they'd think that

[vale sierra]

Most definitely

[wooden crater]

Perhaps they want to allude to the victims

Idk

Could be possible

[maiden nimbus]

mikel could have appeared as a leader but...... also like a killer so idk

[vale sierra]

The name of the leader, the wife of the leader, and the name of one of their most "famous" victims?

[maiden nimbus]

they also filmed in SPAIN

[unborn axle]

Well it kinda makes sense since it started as an heroic resistance.. but idk

[vale sierra]

Who, btw, just 3 months ago made a public statement

About how much she has suffered in her life due to what ETA did to her

[bronze shell]

[vale sierra]

The "coincidence" is too much

[maiden nimbus]

yeah i get that but if you read more you clearly see what it was about

[orchid bone]

I don't get it what is ETA means 💀

[vale sierra]

ETA means Estimated time of arrival

However, ETA is also a terrorist organization that existed in Spain for 50 years

[unborn axle]

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to defend them

[orchid bone]

Ohh i get it thanks

[unborn axle]

Actually I'm spanish

That's why I got in this group

I wanted to read the chat about what bunnies think of this

[maiden nimbus]

ik ik dont worry

im also spanish

[unborn axle]

Nice

[vale sierra]

My bad, not even 3 months ago

It was a month ago

Where Eva, the victim, made the statement

[maiden nimbus]

ill make a long explanation and pin it for ppl who dont understand

[cerulean wagon]

wasn't Eva Forest the more plausible link for Eva's within ETA?

[wooden crater]

Turns out they filmed in Portugal

[vale sierra]

No idea, I've not investigated what people came up with

I'm going off of my knowledge of ETA

[kind gust]

they filmed in Portugal

[vale sierra]

Of the few leaders whose names I know of, and victims names

And it coincidences with what I know

[quartz elbow]

I'm willing to give them benefit of the doubt that they made up random names,but it's a bit too sus

That it coincidentally lined up perfectly

[kind gust]

also, i’m not trying to be rude here, but not many people know of this group, especially outside of Spain

[unborn axle]

It doesn't feel like random names

[cerulean wagon]

i just pointed that out as an example of the fact these names are not uncommon, even within ETA. and just because one the names is exclusively basque doesn't mean it references someone related to ETA.

[vale sierra]

I'm repeating myself, which is meh, but what if the song was named "Reach", starring Newjeans, Adolf, Himmler, Anne

Would people give it the benefit of doubt?

Would people say "it's not related"?

I don't think so

[quartz elbow]

That's a great point

[kind gust]

when no one listens to me

[vale sierra]

It's only because people don't know about ETA

[kind gust]

yup

[vale sierra]

That they can say it's not related

[quartz elbow]

Well, here it's very related. And if here with NewJeans' ETA those names are also related, maybe Min Hee-jin wanted to sneak those names of Mikel, Maria and Eva, because lots of people don't know about ETA and she thought that nobody would realize that?

It feels very distasteful either way imo

[quartz elbow]

Yeah

[kind gust]

also it could be quite possible that MHJ wants to bring awareness to the situation

happens often in korea & usa

[maiden nimbus]

thats defo not the way imo

[wooden crater]

That’s something I thought of

[vale sierra]

I don't know what they were thinking

[tepid spruce]

As much as i think the music is smack, it feels off

[vale sierra]

Nor the reasoning behind doing it

Are they doing it to bring attention to it?

[wooden crater]

We don’t know what kinda stunt min her Jin will try to pull tbh

[vale sierra]

But what are they going to do with that attention?

Educate?

[wooden crater]

They might have learned about it

[vale sierra]

Or just make money off of the publicity stunt?

[wooden crater]

On their trip to Spain

We may never know the real intentions

[vale sierra]

Oh god, imagine they met an ex ETA member

[kind gust]

yes that’s usually what happens with music that’s about something terrible, it’s used for education

[vale sierra]

And they told them that they were heroes or something

[wooden crater]

Hmmm

[vale sierra]

Just lied to them

I mean idk, like you may be correct that they learned about it

[kind gust]

there are a lot of movies in the usa who do similar things where they create publicity off of bad stuff that’s happened to try to educate the public

[maiden nimbus]

What's wrong with the third song on New Jeans' new album, ETA?
ETA, whose meaning is Estimated Time of Arrival (confirmed by ADOR, on June 26th) coincides with the name of a terrorist group that existed in Spain in the 1960s. This group committed several attacks and murdered more than 850 people while it was active . The leaders of this terrorist group were, among many of them, Mikel and his wife Maria, who also appear on the New Jeans poster as possible actors (not confirmed). In addition, one of their most famous attacks was the one in which they planted a bomb in the car of a famous Spanish soldier, and in the New Jeans trailer we can also see a car very similar to the one in the news. Finally, Eva, who also appears as an actress in the New Jeans poster, was one of the victims of these attacks.

This is why so much fuss has been created around this issue. This thread has been created to discuss such sensitive issues, so please try to do it with respect, both to the other members and to the victims of this terrorist group.

[vale sierra]

And maybe they want to bring attention to it

But idk

[vale sierra]

His wife is Maria

Eva is a victim

[maiden nimbus]

oop tre

true

[vale sierra]

Its ok

[maiden nimbus]

fixed

[vale sierra]

The issue is movies recreating historic events to educate is a good thing and important

[quartz elbow]

Makes me wonder if they could re-edit the names to avoid anymore backlash

[vale sierra]

But idk how they'll do that with a song?

Idk

[vague idol]

ok phew

im negl it could have been coincidental in the sense that everything just happened to link to the major issue at hand.

[maiden nimbus]

i hope they can release an statement

[vague idol]

but ETA has many meanings such as Estimated Time OF Arrival

[vague idol]

they did

lemme try get it up

[vale sierra]

Not denying that

[kind gust]

i mean there’s entire documentaries, tv shows, spoofs, spin offs, etc. about many anti-government or just plain terrorist organizations and serial killers in the usa which are not even just used as educational material but also are created into drama series and shows, as well as joked about constantly

[tepid spruce]

Wait when?

[vale sierra]

They definitely didnt name it ETA as in Euskadi Ta Askatasuna

But

[cerulean wagon]

@maiden nimbus i implore you not to pin the message or at least change the language. no one is 100% the Mikel and Maria in the teaser clip text are the Mikel and Maria couple involved with ETA. you are writing this as fact when it is not fully established.

[vague idol]

it was an indirect statement im getting it!

[tepid spruce]

Copy copy

[vale sierra]

I hate repeating myself because it can be annoying for the chat

But I'll do it one more time

Cos i wanna know what Xav would think

[vague idol]

im not here to argue hope u understand

[vale sierra]

@vague idol

[vague idol]

just here to say my piece then leave

[vale sierra]

What would you think about that?